1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive John with Ashlyn John Osan Bryan Sex. 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: Jags Drive starts right now. You know, anytime you get 3 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: a chance to play for a head coach that you 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: know has won a Super Bowl and has been there 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: and knows what it takes, uh, that's definitely enticing because 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: like I mentioned, uh, he knows what it takes to 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: get there, and you know he's gonna put us in 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: the best position and coaches to get to that point 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: because that's our ultimate goal. We're gonna have to work 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: towards that and you know we all know that, but uh, 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, having him, um, you know being our head 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: coach was definitely a big factor. And just you know 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: being here, being able to play here last year and 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: just seeing the amount of potential that's on this roster 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: and just knowing that, you know, there's a few key 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: pieces away from you know, being able to build something special. 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: Coach Peterson a major draw. And free agency, the Jaguars 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: signing as of now, seven free agents and we are 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: a week off the massive overhaul I guess you could 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: say of the free agent frenzy, but it is not 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: done yet, at least reports coming that there are still 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: players visiting Jacksonville as of now. Welcome in the Jaguars 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: Drive time. Ashland Sullivan, Brian Sexton, and John Os. You're 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: here with you on a Tuesday morning, and Brian, you 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: made a good point yesterday on I know and you 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: do that sometimes, so I wanted to bring it up 27 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: right good point that you were asked in public, are 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: you excited about this free agent class? And I think 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: it's important to note, yes, there's excitement, there's optimism, but 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: you also don't want to sound like a broken record, 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: because every offseason you're optimistic, you're excited, and we'll get that. 32 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm expressing what I think a lot of 33 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: the fans want. They're they want to be excited about 34 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: the guys, and when you listen to them, there you 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: feel excited about the guys. But free agency, and John, 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: we've said this for years, and you in particular have 37 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: beat this drum. It's a crapshoot. You're going to overpay. 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Whether a guy fits your system or not, whether he 39 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: can perform as well as he did in his last 40 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: stop or not, those are all things to be determined. 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: It seems like they have gotten great value in terms 42 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: of players that fit and people that work in the 43 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: locker room. Overpay, Yes, you overpay. That's just the game 44 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: that we play. Um, I don't want people to not 45 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: be excited about this football team. The reason and and 46 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: the end of that story is the reason that I 47 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: think it's fair to be able to have that conversation 48 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: is you have the quarterback and I'm still today as 49 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: excited about Trevor Lawrence as I was, you know, six 50 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: months before they drafted him. Well, I'm I should clarify 51 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: today's show. By the way, guys, if you notice there's 52 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: something different about me, I am phoneless. I left my 53 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: phone in my mother's house last night. I've gotta go 54 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: back and get after the show, So I'm a little 55 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm a little out. Well, rarely do I go with 56 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: that phone. So I am a rudderless ship. So look out. 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: But it's a to Brian's point on free agency. If 58 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk was the best wide receiver in the NFL, 59 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: he would be on the Cardinals. And I'm not criticizing 60 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk. I'm just saying that every player is available 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: for free agency for a reason. Christian Kirk may work 62 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: and prove us wrong. And become the best Rep widency 63 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL. He certainly has the capability to do that, 64 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: but there are always reasons guys are out there. What 65 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: the Jaguars did was raise the water, if you will. 66 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: They raised the talent level. That's what they needed to do. 67 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: And the impressive thing about Christian Kirk and about the 68 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: other players and its free agency class except for Brandon Schurf, 69 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: it does feel like they are rising players. They're all 70 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: twenty six. Trent Ball he said age was a factor. 71 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: They wanted to be younger, they wanted to have those 72 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: second contract guys. Um, I'm optimistic. I think what fans 73 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: are feeling, Brian, you mentioned the fans. What I'm feeling. 74 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: What the fans are feeling seems to be a cautious 75 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: long term optimism because you feel like you have a 76 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: professional head coach, quarterback who can grow. Beneath that. There 77 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: is a feeling one of the fans that I talked 78 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: to of, Hey, we like it, but we're gonna wait 79 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 1: and see. We're optimistic, but let's see how this first 80 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: year goes. So I think that's fair and absolutely one 81 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: more thing. I mean, I said I was excited as 82 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: as I can be about Trevor Lawrence. I am as 83 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: excited as can be about Doug Peterson. And after reading 84 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: that article in The Athletic yesterday which just piste me 85 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: off right about the way that that other guy ran 86 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: this thing. To have someone like Dugan who played for 87 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: Don Shula, Mike Holmegrin Andy Reid, played with Dan Marino 88 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: and Brett Farve uh in Philly, in in in Miami 89 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: and Kansas City, wherever he was. He understands how to 90 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: build a championship caliber team because he's done it, because 91 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: he's seen other people do it. So he brings in 92 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: a level of competency that we didn't see in So 93 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: all those factors in And I don't want to the 94 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: quarterback in the coach last year with the story, the 95 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: quarterback in the coach this year or the story and 96 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: this year, I think there's a happy ending opportunity. Last year, 97 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't so sure. I think tier thing together Sland. 98 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 1: I think the seven free agents that they signed fit 99 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: what we're feeling about Doug Peterson, meaning, you know, and 100 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: I get winning the press conference, you get tired of it. 101 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure they are fans and I don't care they 102 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: say during press conferences. But these guys feel like they fit. 103 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: They it feels like there's a vision and as I've 104 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: written multiple times since last Wednesday, that gives you the 105 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: foundation and a chance to build. That's where we're at. 106 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: That is where we're at. Let's get into big things. 107 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: Big thing one is the offense. Looking at the offense 108 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: after free agency, signing for offensive players. One of the 109 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: ones are really excited about is Titan Evan Ingleman. Like 110 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: we just talked about, Coach Peterson a major draw for 111 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: why these free agents chose Jacksonville. Big, big part of 112 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: my decision was was Doug him coming in here. Um 113 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: obviously playing against him, That's why I see year the 114 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: last five four years when he was in Philly, UM 115 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: and his his resume and pedigree of using the tight 116 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: end position, Um and some of the time they he's 117 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: developed was a big part of my decision. And uh 118 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: and having Trevor at quarterback and even in the direction 119 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: they were going free agency, and I just I kind 120 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: of felt that it was heading starting the head in 121 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: the right direction. I want to be a part of it. 122 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: Big thing too, is defense, looking at the defense after 123 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: free agency, into your defensive line, linebacker, corner, all positions 124 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: of neat and all checked off the list and free agency. 125 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: Foy a A. Louis Khan on the direction he sees 126 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: this defense going. After speaking with his new defensive coordinator, 127 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: I talked to Mike, I said, what do you think 128 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: you're what do you want to hang your head on 129 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: as a defense, because obviously we have to be on 130 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: the same page him and I, um with you know 131 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: what he wanted me to portray that to to the 132 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: rest of the unit. Um, I'm sure he wants to 133 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: stop the run. So obviously we have a league where 134 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: or a confidence where they run the ball well, and um, 135 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, that's just more opportunity for me and how 136 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: I feel. Um, it's just definitely finding to go up 137 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: against that kind of competition and that kind of that 138 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: kind of talent, Like telling myself a lot of times 139 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: before I play effact, I feel like it's good if 140 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: I I go off against him and I'll be recognized 141 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: that I don't get that respect. And it's just fun 142 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: to play against those kind of guys. And finally, big 143 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: thing three very importance and free agency is the salary 144 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: cap before free agencies. The Jaguars were in the top 145 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: five of salary cap space. Now they are sitting at 146 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: in the league. Goes to show he spends a lot 147 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: of money last week for players you really needed. One 148 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: of the biggest contracts goes to the cornerback from Jacksonville, 149 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: Darius Williams. I mean as soon as free agency here 150 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: and my agent was telling me the Jags was just 151 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: just no coming after me. Um. Of course I just 152 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: had to put the little Pauls in there. Seeing what 153 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: other teams saw or one of the talked about. But 154 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: I just knew it was gonna be nothing like coming home. Um. 155 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: I pretty much know my whole time I was gonna 156 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: be a Jags. Um. But of course you just still 157 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: want to see, just to see, just to not just 158 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: jumping stuff so quick. But uh man couldn't wait to 159 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: come back home. And now you have it. That is 160 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: big things. Recapping a very busy week and fredency that 161 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: might not be done yet. There's reports from Adam Schefter 162 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: as of yesterday that former Titans linebacker Rashawn Evans we're 163 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: visiting Jacksonville this week and we talked a little bit 164 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: about the linebacker unit yesterday than Jaguar's reporter podcast that 165 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: was before this news came out. If they get Evans, 166 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: you're feeling pretty good about that unit. Yeah. Look, they 167 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: got better at stopping the run last year, but they 168 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: weren't good enough. They needed to be more stout upfront 169 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: and the front with a guy like Evans inside. And 170 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: we've seen what a lu kan. I won't lie. I didn't. 171 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: I didn't watch it Land a whole lot. Yes, last year, 172 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: didn't know a lot about him, but in watching him now, uh, 173 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 1: you know you put a guy like Evans who can 174 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: run equally as well next to him and and you're 175 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: in goodstead. Can I go to big thing? Three? Absolutely? 176 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: Salary cap um in this very seed. Trent Bulky last 177 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: week when he was on Drive Time talked about not 178 00:08:55,120 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: wanting to have this free agent exposition every year, right, 179 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: grab one or two that makes sense for you, um, 180 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: And that's certainly the goal, because, as we've talked about, 181 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: when you start putting this money out there, you know, 182 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: the return rate on free agents is probably less than 183 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: in terms of getting the value for the money that 184 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: you spend. The problem is that the salary cap is 185 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: about to take some exponential jumps up in terms of 186 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: the money available to teams to spend. Just as an example, 187 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned that the Jaguars have fallen from the top 188 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: five to in terms of salary cap room next year, 189 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: there and there as it stands right now, and with 190 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: forty million dollars in capram right, that that's to give 191 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: you an idea of how much money there is to spend. 192 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: So how do you do that? Wisely? Draft and develop, 193 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: Go find your guys, do a great job in getting 194 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: these guys out of contract. And right now, how many 195 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: guys have the Jaguars got that they can extend that 196 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: they've drafted. I mean, well, I mean the obvious one 197 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: is Josh Allen, right, I mean you can grab him 198 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: and you can extend that. But beyond that, there really 199 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 1: isn't anybody that stands out that you say, okay, I'm 200 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: gonna do that right there. You gotta wait. You gotta 201 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: hope that last year's draft class comes through and that 202 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: you can start working on those guys and getting ahead 203 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: of it. And that's really the way people talk about 204 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: the cycle, and it's you know, you sign free agents 205 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: and you sort of it can happen that you chase 206 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: bad money with bad money and free agency, and as 207 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: Brian said, the only way out of that cycle, and 208 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: it's happened so long in Jacksonville that I get letters 209 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: or not letters, letters land with something people used to do. 210 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: You have to put a stamp on right. So um, 211 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: I get emails from people saying every year we hear 212 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: about this, John. Obviously it can't happen. Well. The way 213 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: it happens that you get yourself out of the free 214 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: agency cycle is you draft well. And as soon as 215 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: you start drafting well, then you get compensatory picks, which 216 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: had become kind of all the rage lately. Then you're 217 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: out of the cycle. Then you can develop players and 218 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: you can build a roster of homegrown That's what these 219 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: guys want to do. Clearly, they didn't feel like there 220 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: were second year candidates this year who as a group 221 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: merited that they're hoping to develop guys to merit it 222 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: in the future. One of the big ways that you 223 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: also get out of this is having a quarterback who 224 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: plays at a high level and takes up a huge 225 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: chunk of salary cap room. I mean, it's not out 226 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: of the Roman possibility to imagine Trevor Lawrence making sixty 227 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: million dollars a year. By the time we get to 228 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: his first big bite of that apple. Uh, that will 229 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: evaporate some of that room. And if you draft well, 230 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: it will take it down even further. But you know, 231 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: when you look at the teams that were involved in 232 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: free agency, you know immediately they they were not the 233 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: teams that have won Super Bowls in recent years. It 234 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: wasn't Kansas City in Tampa Bay. Um. You know. You 235 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: you found a team like Buffalo that was able to 236 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: massage you move All Star a lot to Lele, you know, 237 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: and bring in a couple of guys um the pass 238 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: rusher from Von Miller. Right, you can go do a 239 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: little bit of that um. But that's where you hope 240 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: to get that Your salary cap is comprised primarily of 241 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: your quarterback, in your drafting, a couple little pieces and 242 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: your set and you go swing at the fences for 243 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: Von Miller, hoping he's that guy that gets you over 244 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: the fence in Kansas City in the NFC Championship game 245 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, there's a staggering go for it now 246 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: trend in the NFL that I frankly never thought we 247 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: would see. And I think that would be a good 248 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: topic for our guests. How about that for a segment nice, 249 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: I like it. Speaking of our guests NFL Network and 250 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com columns, Judy Batista joins us next right 251 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: here on Jaguars Drive Time. We're back Jaguars Drive Time 252 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: of Tuesday morning, were brought to you by Jet Home Loans, 253 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: and we are in this free agency frenzy that has 254 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: not seemed to chill out and no one better to 255 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: talk about the NFL dot Com call on this. Judy 256 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: Batista joining us now, Judy, we are just trying to 257 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: keep up down here. This seems to be one of 258 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: the craziest free agencies we have ever seen. To be frank, 259 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: I think it's deep crazy. Um, we've ever seen I 260 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: don't remember ever seeing anything like this, especially the quarterback movement, 261 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: which is um wild and unprecedented in the NFL. Judy, 262 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: let me ask you, Um, this was the topic we 263 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: were just talking about this. The quarterbacks are the tip 264 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: of the iceberg on it. But so many big names 265 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: changing hands. Um, is this a trend? Do you see 266 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: this being the way the league is going forward? Because Judy, 267 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: unfortunately you and I have known each other a long 268 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: long time, so we're the old people in the room 269 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: long with Brian, I don't remember this at Is this 270 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: how it's gonna be or if our team is gonna 271 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: have to see if it works. How do you see 272 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: this shaping up going forward? I do think, um, this 273 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: is likely to be the way things are for a while. 274 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: There's you know, if general managers have gotten younger, and 275 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: I think this wave of general managers is more aggressive 276 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: in team building. I mean you're right, like, only how 277 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: many years ago there were never trades in the NFL. 278 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: We would sort of bemoan like, oh, we wish it 279 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: were more like major League Baseball's trade deadline right where 280 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: superstar players are moving all the time. That never happened, 281 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: and you certainly never saw a player for player trades. 282 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: And part of the reason was they would say, well, 283 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: you know, the salary cap makes it too complicated. Well 284 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: now we realize not really, they just didn't want to 285 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: do trades. Um. This wave of general managers seems more 286 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: comfortable with with doing it, and so I think, um, 287 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: we are likely to see this kind of movement. Um, 288 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, we we just saw what the 289 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: Rams did. Um, And that's not for everybody. That's not 290 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: everybody's cup of tea the way they built their team, 291 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: but it worked, Um, and I think you're you know, 292 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see a comfort level, particularly 293 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: with moving star level players. You know, Judy, I'm not 294 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: sure what my question is here, but when when you 295 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: look at the Colts, right, Um, the Colts for years 296 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: had Peyton Manning and then Andrew Luck and they had 297 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: no quarterback instability at all. And now what are they 298 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: going into six straight years? This will be with them 299 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: with a different starting quarterback. Uh. Part of that, I 300 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: think it speaks to what you were saying, and that 301 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: is is that you know, you've got guys who are 302 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: willing to take chances. And the other part of it 303 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: is is that when there's not someone out there, guys 304 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: can move freely. It's just so interesting Marcus Mariott is 305 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: getting another chance, and Russell Wilson moves to Denver, and 306 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: so where does Baker Mayfield land? Where does this whole 307 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: quarterback carousel stop this year? I think also, just to 308 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: add to what you were saying, a contributing factor this 309 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: year is the draft class is not you know, there's 310 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: just not this wealth of quarterbacks that are really well 311 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: regarded in this draft class. Maybe that will turn out 312 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: to be wrong, but at least the analysis going into 313 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: the draft is, you know, there's no Trevor Wance. So 314 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: if you are a team in need of that guy, 315 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, the draft is sort of pushed to the side. 316 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: And if if you feel like we're just a quarterback away, um, 317 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: then you're gonna go get one in free agency. To 318 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: answer your question about Baker Mayfield, you know, I don't 319 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: I don't know where he lands. Um certainly that you know, 320 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: the seats are filling up and the music is getting 321 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: close to stopping. Um. He apparently wanted was hoping for 322 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis called I never thought that was going to 323 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: be a great fit. They apparently were not, um, you know, 324 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: really in on him either. So uh, you know there 325 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: are teams that still need a quarterback Seattle. Um, you know, 326 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: I can't imagine they're going to be just settling Withdrew 327 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: lock So is Seattle a possibility? Um? Maybe what are 328 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: the Carolina panther is gonna do? Uh since they missed 329 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: out onto Shaun Watson. But you know the slots are 330 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: closing up. I mean Atlanta, you know, trades Matt Ryan 331 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: and then signs Marcus Mariotta, who is clearly their bridge quarterback. 332 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he resurrects his career, which would be tremendous us, 333 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: but you know, clearly he is the bridge to either 334 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: his own career resurrection or to somebody else. Um. You know, 335 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: New Orleans brought back Jamis Winston, which I think was 336 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: the no brainer move. Um, but you know the spots 337 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: not just Stake or Mayfield. What happens to Jimmy Garoffalo now, 338 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: who I think we all assumed would be moved by 339 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: this time, and his shoulder surgery has really messed up 340 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: his his movement. Just craziness. I'm attempting to keep up 341 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: down here. And we hear a lot about a second 342 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: chances in free agency, and Evan Ingram is someone that pops. 343 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: If I know you're in the New York markets, he 344 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: probably paid a little bit of attention to him. Do 345 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: you see this panning out here in jackson for a 346 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, for an Evan Ingram to really make it 347 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville? Let me address Evan Ingram. I feel 348 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 1: like maybe no player needed a fresh start more than 349 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram. It's just you know, he had so much 350 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: promise at the Giants, and he showed flashes um of 351 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: his ability. It just never all came together are consistently 352 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: game after game, and I think, you know, fans got 353 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: tired of him and of waiting, and so it just 354 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: wasn't going to work. I do think he has tremendous skill. Um. 355 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: I mean he you know, runs throughoutes like a wide receiver, 356 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: and he has hands like a wide receiver and he's big. 357 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: So I think he is potentially if it all comes together, 358 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, he's like going to be the safety blanket 359 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: for for Trevor Lawrence, right, Like, you know, easy passes, Um, 360 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: he can catch and then run with the ball. He's 361 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: really good with the ball in his hands. So I 362 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: think potentially that is going to be a great combination 363 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: with Trevor and will really help you know, we'll give 364 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: Trevors like easy completions, which is what you need to 365 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 1: do to help develop a young quarterback. Um. You know, 366 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: the Christian Kirk thing is going to be fascinating because 367 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: obviously he's being paid like a top ten receiver, which 368 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: he is not at this moment um. But you know 369 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: they're they're betting on the upside, and they've got the 370 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: money to spend. I'm not quite as outraged by their money. 371 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to pay a play like salary cap amateur, 372 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: salary cap guru. They have the money. This is what 373 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: you have to do, um when you have to fill 374 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: roster hole. So I am curious to see about Christian 375 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: Kirky is a good receiver. I'm curious to see if 376 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: he can go up the level to to match what 377 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: his paycheck is going to be. But again, I give 378 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: the Jack Wars credit because this offseason had to be 379 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: all about putting the pieces around Trevor, are supporting Trevor 380 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: so that he can develop. And I do think they 381 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: have have done that, including you know, helping their offensive line, 382 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: which is a big part of it. Um. I So 383 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: I think they have done that, and I think, um 384 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: the offense should function that are the roster is better 385 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: than it was you know ten days ago, Judy, your 386 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: NFC eats East roots run pretty deep. So I'm sure 387 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: you have people who coach against Doug Peterson. And you 388 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: know Doug Peterson too. Degree tell me what he brings 389 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: his reputation in the northeast calm right, he will bring 390 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: like like I he's really well liked and um, you 391 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: know players coach is not the right descriptions, but like 392 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: he's he's a well liked person. And I think that's 393 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: probably going to be a nice change. Um. I think 394 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: he will lower the temperature. He's collaborative, um, and is 395 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: a good offensive mind and you know, in terms of football, like, 396 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: he had an awful lot of success in Philadelphia for instance, 397 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: we're just talking about Evan Ingram. He's always had a 398 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: lot of success with tight ends, um. And that will 399 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: help Trevor Lawrence. He's something of a you know, quarterback 400 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: whisperer as a quarterback, former quarterback himself. So I think 401 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: that will help Trevor an awful lot to have somebody 402 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: who knows what he's going through in a game, um, 403 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, right there on the sideline. I think that 404 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: will help Trevor a lout up. Mostly, I think he 405 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: will bring a calm and qual it and um, you know, 406 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: in goodwill, and that's probably going to go a long way. 407 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: There is nothing wrong with some calmness here in Jacksonville. 408 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: I think we all can agree with you, and we 409 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: just confirm, um, Yes, he is much better liked already. Yes, 410 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: he is naked strides in the building, that's for sure. Judy, 411 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. We appreciate it, 412 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: my pleasure. I hope to see you guys soon. Yes, 413 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: let's hope. 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We are a week out 421 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: of free agency, the Jaguars potentially still making some moves, 422 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: so a very busy time here in the off season 423 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. It is time for some Ashland asked three 424 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: person questions we have in mind for today for these 425 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: two lovely gentlemen. Are you ready? Yes, yes, we are right. 426 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: You threw me off with lovely. I like to throw 427 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: a compliment in here now and then, you know, just 428 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: to keep you on your toes. Alright. Number one, who 429 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: will be the most impactful free agents signing out of 430 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: the bunch the Jaguars adding seven free agents as of now, 431 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: who will we be talking most about? Who will be 432 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 1: the most impactful? John Osan, al Right, I'm gonna go 433 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: with the B Man. Oh god, Brandon. Sure, and I'm 434 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: sure he's been called the B Man quite a bit. 435 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: But I know they are going to be stat guys. 436 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: I know people are gonna be watching Kirk, They're gonna 437 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: be watching having in him. But Brian's alluded this a 438 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: couple of times. He becomes the most or the second 439 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: most decorated offensive lineman this team has ever had. I 440 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: don't know that he gives this team five years of 441 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls because of his age, but he has certainly, 442 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: uh he will have an impact. He will allow the 443 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: offensive line to go from okay in the last couple 444 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: of years to being a dominant unit. He gives them 445 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: a chance to do that. So I think he's gonna 446 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: be the most impactful. You sure hope he is. He's 447 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: supposed to be. Ye, Well, so I went with the 448 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: Brandon Sheriff right there. That's what the stars for like Schriff. 449 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: I'll go with the Sheriff because he's big. Um, he 450 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: might not like the man, but he will be the 451 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: most impactful because he will give them the ability. I've 452 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: talked about Jowan Taylor at right tackle, I don't I 453 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: don't see him as a tackle. I se him more 454 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: as an interior offensive lineman. But the two of them combine, 455 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: this team will be right handed. They will He is 456 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: a mahler in the run game for anything that that 457 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: Jawan lacks in past protection. With his feet, the guy 458 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: can absolutely create a lane. And that's what Sureff Sheriff does. 459 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: So the two of them leading the way, put a 460 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: tight end over there and block. Um Luke Ferrell right 461 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: blocking tight end, I mean you should be able to 462 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: get third and two, I mean seventy of the time. 463 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: So I think he's going to create the running game 464 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: which will help take the pressure off of the passing game. UM. 465 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: And I just he's a great player, um the most 466 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: decorated player they have signed in free agency ever uh 467 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: and the second most decorated offensive lineman that they will 468 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: have ever had. So it's hard to see anyone having 469 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: the impact that he will. I like it. Sorry, now 470 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: that we have noted the positive, what's missing? Who did 471 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: The Jaguars still need to get and free agency, possibly 472 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: the draft. Can they fix this right now in this 473 00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 1: week's free agency? What is still missing? John Well, I'm 474 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: gonna go they. I'm gonna go positions, but I like 475 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: them to address linebacker. I like the idea, and his 476 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: name is Escape. I like the idea of him. Uh. 477 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: I like the idea of interior offensive line. There are 478 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: reports that Brandon Linder is mulling retirement. If that's the case, 479 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: I like Shatley there uh at center. But they you 480 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: need depth on the offensive line. You need seven or 481 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: eight guys who can play. They have had that in 482 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: recent years, So interior offensive line. I don't know if 483 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: it's the draft and something happens with Lender if you 484 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: go that way free agency, just to make sure you 485 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: are short up there. But I like those two positions 486 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: as possible second wave free agents. I think those are 487 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: the two I wrote none because most of the names 488 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: that are left in the free agent lists are over 489 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: thirty years old. They all signed with the Jacks. Yeah, 490 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: well right, who those you didn't? I don't want any. 491 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't want any thirty two year old linebackers. I 492 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: don't want any. I don't want a thirty four year 493 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: old safety, none of that stuff, Um, because I'm trying 494 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: to build for next year and beyond and I want 495 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: to be able to pay my own guys. But John's right, Um, 496 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: Jon Evans would make sense because he's a young He's 497 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: a twenty six year old linebacker. Um. And the Jaguars 498 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: got Brandon Linder and a j Can in the third round. 499 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: And Can was a four year, five year starter for them, 500 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: and and Linda obviously has not been healthy in recent years, 501 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: but he's been a mainstay of the offensive line for 502 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: almost a decade. So I'd like to see them address 503 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: that in the draft, and to think that's where they were. 504 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: Go find me a couple of guys that that I 505 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: can do and a center in particular. You should be 506 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: able to find that. Remember Brandon Lendy was drafted as 507 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: a guard from Miami and he transitioned to center and 508 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 1: was a very good one. Yes, had a great can 509 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: they have two third round picks. That seems to me 510 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: the sweets Okay, well you mentioned the third round. Now 511 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: that we have some new guys here in Jacksonville, seven 512 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: free agents as of now, now we have a better 513 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: idea of Okay, maybe what are they thinking in the draft. 514 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: Who Now, if you don't be specific, you could do 515 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: position if you so please. Are the Jaguars taking at 516 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: thirty three their first pick in the second round, John, 517 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: I'm not getting off this train you have stayed on. 518 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: I think they're going wide receiver with he just showed 519 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: my my yes, you're very nice strong. He's trying wide receiver. Um. 520 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: It just feels to me like they have wide receivers 521 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: right now who they feel good about. They have small 522 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: guys who can run. Uh, the way you get big 523 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: time elite guy at that position, as we saw last week, 524 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: big time elite guy who's a true one doesn't come 525 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: available in free agency. You've got to draft it. This year, 526 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: the sweet spot in the draft for wide receivers is 527 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: probably gonna be anywhere between number twenty overall and number 528 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: forty overall. The Jaguars said at number thirty three, trade 529 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: up somewhere. I still I would be sucked if they 530 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: don't go wide receiver, Mbell. I don't want to pigeon 531 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: myself into pigeonholed myself into taking the best wide receiver. 532 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: I want the best player, and I'm not sure that 533 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: Jagguars are gonna stay at thirty three. You mentioned the 534 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 1: two third round picks. They have the ability to move up. 535 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: And there's a guy who I keep hearing is gonna 536 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: slide um. You know, there's gonna be a rush up 537 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: the board for receivers and a rush up the board 538 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: for offensive lineman because there are six or seven quality 539 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: offensive tackles. So a guy like Nakobe Dean, the linebacker 540 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: from Georgia who everybody had in the top ten when 541 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: when Georgia won the national championship, and rightfully so, he's 542 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: a tremendous player, but he's a shade under six feet tall, 543 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: and so he's a guy, and he plays a position 544 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: that's not a premium position that could be somewhere within 545 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: striking distance. If there is a legit, if there's an 546 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: A J. Brown kind of wide receiver, right the Titans 547 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: great receiver who's the second round pick, well then I 548 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: want him. But if it's not, I don't want to 549 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: be stuck with just taking the best receiver. I want 550 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: this guy, and if he's anywhere within striking distance, give 551 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: me him. Plus, you may as well look at other positions, 552 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 1: because in these conversations I'm talking wide receivers. You may 553 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: as well figure out something else to talk about. I know, 554 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're not getting off of that one, 555 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: so but that's okay. Legitimately, I could see him sitting 556 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: at twenty six, right, and and a lot of people 557 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: talking about going up the board to get him because 558 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: he's too good of a value to slide much further, 559 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: on a serious note, Brian's right at that spot. If 560 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: wide receivers are gone, you don't force it. You need 561 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: to get that's a premium pick. I think the Jaguars 562 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: may have gotten a long term starter in Tyson Campbell 563 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: there last year. You need to take advantage of that 564 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: because it's basically a second late first round. When you 565 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: saw what you just said, right, I mean, um Davante 566 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: Adams was franchised and then traded Chris Godwin with the 567 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: A c L franchised, Mike Williams got a new deal. 568 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: Teams locked up great receivers. So the panic, the passion, 569 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: the mania for receivers is going to force teams up 570 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: into the bottom of the first round to get at 571 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: John Dotson from Penn Steak and those out of guys. 572 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: The kid from North Dakota State, Watson is climbing as well. 573 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: There's there could be a great value there if the 574 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: Jaguars are willing to be patients. 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