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The bulletin is is that George 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: Gascons recall was rejected today by the County Clerk's office, 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: claiming that they're about thirty six thousand signatures short, which 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: means that the county Clerk's office, the Registrar's office throughout 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: almost two hundred thousand signatures. Yeah, they suboded about seven 15 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: or fifteen thousand to give you the total. That's they 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: said they submited about seven and seventeen thousand, But the 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: county came back said we counted them all. There's about 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifteen thousand signatures on these petitions. There's 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: just so they rejected about two hundred thousand. They rejected 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: about twenty seven percent by the math I just came 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: up with. So, by the way, it's forty six thousand short, 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: not thirty six I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm so pissed off. 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: I can't see straight. I can't forty six thousand that 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: that is outrageous. I don't believe it for a minute. 25 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: We have Dennis zion On, the former LA City councilman, 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: who is also part of this recall effort. Dennissee there, 27 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm here alive in oil. What's going on? Well, it's 28 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: very very interesting how they throw out we turned in 29 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: seven hundred and seventeen thousand, we needed five hundred and 30 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: sixty six eight and fifty seven. We turned it in 31 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: way over. We weren't able to monitor, we weren't able 32 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: to watch, we weren't able to observe anything. And they 33 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: did this behind closed doors. And I just had a 34 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: short conversation with Steve Cooley, who's also a co chair 35 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: along with me and some other folks, that we're not 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: going to just sit down and say, okay, well we'll 37 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 1: just go ahead along with your program. We're going to 38 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: get our attorneys involved to find out exactly what the 39 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: situation is. We understand, I understand that they were not 40 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: using what is the current standard when they do the 41 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: count and there's some situations that'll come up that we 42 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: have concern over and we voiced those and that's why 43 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: we wanted to observe and have an observer and they 44 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: denied that. So they say, well, this is not really 45 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: an election, and so you can't do that. So it's 46 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: very very suspicious how they come up with so many 47 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: that they've thrown out and saying that George Gaston will 48 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: remain as a distric attorney and let crime to avail 49 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles County? Did the recall organization? Did they 50 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: that the signatures in advance? I remember we had somebody 51 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: on along the way and said that they'd hired an 52 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: you'd hired an outside company to do that? Was that true? 53 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: And was it done? Yes? Extensive? That was true. We 54 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: spent over six million dollars. This wasn't just a little 55 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: dog and pony show. We had an outside firm that 56 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: validated signatures before we turned them in. And again we 57 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: needed five hundred and six thousand, we turned into seven 58 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen thousand so we knew if there were 59 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: some errors, they'd be fine. You valiate. I mean this 60 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: company validated all the petitions, or a percentage of them, 61 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: as I understand, they validated. It's not all most of 62 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: the petitions that were turned in. Some were turned in late. 63 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm not late, but right they arrived the day we 64 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: were turned them in. So the boxes came in late. 65 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if we had time to monitor those 66 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: and check those, but the vast majority of them, as 67 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: I understand, were verified before they were turned in. You 68 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: can't miss by two hundred thousand. That's just impossible talk about. 69 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: Because we had an attorney on with the recall organization 70 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: last week and she was explaining that the new law says, 71 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: what it's a very high standard to throw out a 72 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: signature on a petition. Now what is that standard. I 73 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: don't have the exact standing in front of me, but 74 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: there is a new standard that is adopted policy, and 75 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: apparently it wasn't followed. And that's what our concern was. 76 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: They were not following a new standard that was adopted. 77 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: If I could, if I could paraphrase what I remember 78 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: her saying is that the signature is presumed to be 79 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: correct unless two employees find significant differences. They both independently 80 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: find really obvious differences in the signature between what's on 81 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: the petition and what's on their voter registration card. And 82 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: right now, obviously that's not the only reason you can 83 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: get a signature thrown out on a petition. You could 84 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: be not registered to vote, you could be a resident 85 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: of Orange count or somewhere else. So there's there's multiple reasons. 86 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: But still at twenty seven percent misrate, I just don't 87 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: believe it. Well, I don't either, and I had a 88 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: brief converse Steve cool again, he's very upset about this, 89 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: and we've got attorneys that are on board for this, 90 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: and we're going to challenge this. The Big Register has 91 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,559 Speaker 1: had in the past, which there was some questions about 92 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: what they're doing when they're validating. So this is not 93 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: a surprise. It's unfortunate. We're not going to just roll 94 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: over and say, okay, mister yascon continue doing your misjustice 95 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: for lost account. So obviously this is upsetting, but we're 96 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: not going to roll over and say it's okay. So 97 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: we're going to contest it. We're going to do what 98 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: we need to do. If there has to be another account. 99 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: But it was interesting that we could not have any 100 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: observers anytime they were doing these And that's what really 101 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: struck me wrong. Why you couldn't have anyone on the 102 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: outside looking through a glass window or something to see 103 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: what was going on. They kept it very, very secret. 104 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: And this is what to come out with the numbers. 105 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: You requested observers and they turned you down. Yes, yes, 106 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: they banned observers. You could not have observers. It wasn't appropriate, 107 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't legal for us to have observers. Wait a second, 108 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: you can have as observers on other issues, you know, 109 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: you couldn't do it on this I mean. And then 110 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: the rules they were following aren't the current rules that 111 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: were established, and we brought that forward and they didn't 112 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: really care. So I think you're going to find a 113 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: lot of controversy on this particular situation. But when you 114 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: can get seven hundred and seventeen thousand, that's a lot 115 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: of people that sign these petitions and six million dollars 116 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: we spent doing this with the validation, the verifica, etc. 117 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: So it's not over. Believe me, it's not. I I 118 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: can't believe all those two hundred thousand signatures were invalid. Next, absolutely, 119 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: all right, Dennis, thank you for coming on. All right, guys, 120 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: thank you. That's Dennis Signed, former La City councilman and 121 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: of course strongly behind the effort to recall LA County 122 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: District Attorney George Gascon. We've learned in the last hour 123 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: that the La County Register our voters, his name is 124 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: Dean Logan, his office has rejected the recall because there 125 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: were not enough signatures to qualify it for the ballot. 126 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: I pulled out the letter that was written to the 127 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: Board of Supervisors. We talked about it last week with 128 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: the attorney for the recall, and yes, John, you're right. 129 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: It talks in there about the fact that it's a 130 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: basic presumption that the signature on the petition or the 131 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: ballot envelope is the voters signature, and they're supposed to 132 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: be two different It can be rejected only if two 133 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: different election officials unanimously find beyond a reasonable doubt that 134 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: the signature differs in multiple significant and obvious respects from 135 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: all signatures in the voters registration record. Now, what they 136 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: did not find out we're talking about this morn when 137 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: we come back. They wanted to know remember the sampling 138 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: that they took, and they said it didn't meet the 139 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: threshold either what was the percentage in the sample that 140 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: was bad signature or as you put it, people who 141 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: were not registered to vote in LA County or not 142 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: registered to vote at all, and those you can't really appeal. 143 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: But this signature thing, if that's a reason for the 144 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: rejection of most of the two hundred thousand signatures, that's 145 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: just not good. Yeah. Yeah, So they revised the law 146 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: and if I remember the lawyer said, she asked them, 147 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: do you have the updated law? And they produced a 148 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: document document from twenty twenty seventeen, which is the outdated law, 149 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: also called the guidelines or whatever for reviewing signatures. What 150 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: I want to get to, because this is also really 151 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: important angle here is I want to tell the Dean 152 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: Logan story. Dean Logan is the registrar of voters. He 153 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: was chased out of Seattle King's County years ago because 154 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: of a huge scandal involving a guberatorial election that went 155 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: through multiple recounts. And I've got a whole simple story 156 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: that explained what happened. But he had to resign in disgrace, 157 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: and of course here to Los Angeles, because yeah, we 158 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: just collect disgraced public servants and politicians. All right, we're 159 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,119 Speaker 1: coming up, John and ken Kafi. We have the breakout 160 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: now of what happened with the rejection of the recall 161 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: attempt to Velle County District Attorney George Gascone. That's the 162 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: breaking news this afternoon. They rejected one hundred and ninety five, 163 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: seven hundred and eighty three signatures. And I say that 164 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: because when you hear all the reasons, not exactly that 165 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: the number one reason for rejected petition signatures was that 166 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: the person was not registered. Eighty eight thousand, four hundred 167 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: and sixty four people according to the county registrar. Voters 168 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: signed the petitions and then when they looked them up 169 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: in the rolls, they're not there. Don't they give them 170 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: the provisional ballot if they show up an election day, well, 171 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: and if if their records are valid too, which is 172 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: which is a really important matter, and that plays into 173 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: another scandal that the Registar director Dean Logan had here 174 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: in La County a few years ago. All right, so 175 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: let's just give the rest of the reasons. Then we'll 176 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: go through that story. Apparently there were duplicates, some people 177 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: sign more than once. That number is forty three thousand, 178 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: five ninety three. Then there was a different address problem. 179 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that means exactly. Thirty two eighty 180 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: seven mismatched signature total was nine thousand and four ninety canceled. 181 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what that category means either. Seven thousand 182 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: and three forty four. Is that people that said I 183 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: want my signature withdrawn, I don't know, out of county 184 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: address five thousand and three seventy four. And then the 185 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: category of other nine thousand and three thirty What is 186 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: that other? No, it's a lot of segnatures. How many 187 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: different reasons can you have for rejecting a signature? Because 188 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: they have six they're at the top, there's like seven, 189 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: eight and nine and ten. Well here's here's this one 190 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: breakout we were looking for. Anyway, if it's accurate, if 191 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: they're telling the truth, well, you know, like I said, 192 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna go down the rabbit hole. And I imagine 193 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: they might try to go to court over this, but 194 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: the government is a rabbit hole. Though it's designed to 195 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: be a rabbit hole. They didn't want any oversight, and 196 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: well here, look here, here's Dean Logan's you make the 197 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: call at home. Back in two thousand and four, he 198 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: was in charge at King's count in Kings County where 199 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: Seattle is, and he was the head of King County Elections. 200 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: There was a race for governor between a Democrat, the 201 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: Attorney General, Christine Gregory, and the Republican Dino Rossi. They 202 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: counted all the votes and Dino Rossi, the Republican, was 203 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: the winner by two hundred and sixty one votes. Now 204 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: that margin triggers an automatic recount. They did the recount. 205 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: Rossi won again, this time by forty two votes, and 206 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: then there was a series of lawsuits that revealed what 207 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: happened next. On the third recount, they found a few 208 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: hundred more votes for Gregory. Apparently, there were three hundred 209 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: illegal votes. There were four hundred votes where the voter 210 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: couldn't be verified. There were two hundred felons who voted illegally. 211 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: There were forty four votes from dead people. There were 212 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: ten people who voted twice. When all of those votes 213 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: were counted the third time around, all of a sudden, 214 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: Christine Gregory was the governor. Logan had to resign in 215 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: disgrace from King County elections, and he went to La County, 216 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: which brings you to part two of his story. You remember, 217 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, one hundred eighteen thousand people were accidentally 218 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: left off the La County polling place rosters. They went 219 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: to vote, some of them left frustrated, some were promised 220 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: absentee ballots. That was the year that Gavin knew someone 221 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighteen thousand. They lost those names in 222 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: the California primary. Dean Logan claimed it was a printing error. 223 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: So he's been involved in two major voting scandals in 224 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: his life, and now we've got this with all the anger, 225 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: all the energy, the daily drumbeat. You don't believe that 226 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: there were enough signatures that they felt just short five 227 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: twenty thousand instead of five hundred and sixty six thousand. 228 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: And why didn't they let any observers in, Why didn't 229 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: they have the updated twenty nineteen rules on analyzing signatures, 230 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: Why don't they respond to any of the criticisms from 231 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: the recall committee. To me, the twenty seven percent rejection 232 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: rate is enormous. I don't think I've seen that. No, 233 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: I don't follow every recall. Obviously in San Francisco they qualified. 234 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: Imagine that they qualified the recall in freak in San 235 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: Francisco to recall CHESSA. Bodine and people voted them out. 236 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: But we couldn't get this done here. We're run by 237 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: a one party, fanatically progressive machine. Do you Gascon? Is 238 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: there darling? For every single city council member except maybe 239 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: for Joe Buscayano, every one of them wants him out. 240 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: The probably four out of the no, I'm sorry, every 241 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: one of them wants Gascon to stay. And four out 242 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: of the five county supervisors want him to stay. And 243 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: they want him to stay passionately. It's not like there, 244 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: I don't really care. No, nearly everybody, major politician wants 245 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: him protected. Oh, the board of supervisors, they're they're closing 246 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: the county jails, so he fits yeah, in with their 247 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: their future. Look at the criminal justice system. They need 248 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: him because he doesn't send people a jail in prison, 249 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: and he releases lots of them whenever again again, remember 250 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: George Gascon belies fifteen years is enough for any crime. Yeah, 251 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: that's murdered too. See. So we've had several cases now 252 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: where cops get murdered, and then we find out that 253 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: the murderer was let out early or not prosecuted fully, 254 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: and that's why he was available beyond the streets to 255 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: murder cops. We now have cops getting murdered and nobody 256 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: seems to care. Nobody even blinks, and Gascon is allowed 257 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: to do whatever he wants. You had yearly the entire 258 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: department revolting against him. Ninety eight percent of those deputy 259 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: days that voted voted to have him recalled. I mean, 260 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: there's dozens of cities in La County that it voted 261 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: no confidence in him. And you're telling me there weren't 262 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: enough signatures when the recall organization hired an outside company 263 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: to vet the signatures. No, I think it's interesting to 264 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: know too. They rejected eighty eight thousand signatures because they 265 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: weren't on the rolls for La County. And then you 266 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: look at that story you just mentioned, the June twenty 267 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: eighteen California Primary, one hundred eighteen thousand LA County registered 268 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: voters learned their names, we're not on the voter rolls 269 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: when they want to try to vote that day. Okay, 270 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,479 Speaker 1: so there's kind of a sober lap there in the problem. Well, yeah, 271 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: because we don't know if everybody who's registered to vote 272 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: is actually on the rolls. They missed one hundred eighteen 273 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: thousand people just four years ago. It's not ancient Issusually 274 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: they have dead people on the rolls, or people that 275 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: have moved out of the state, or there's that too. 276 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's in this case they're saying eighty eight 277 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: thousand people were not registered. Dean Logan is notorious for 278 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: being one of the worst voting administrators in the United States. 279 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: You could google his name and find multitudes of articles. 280 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: All Right, he's bad at his job, he's in over 281 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: his head, he's overwhelmed. And now what do you know 282 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: the guy? I mean, honestly, you really believe La wouldn't 283 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: recall gascon after San Francisco recalled Chess of Vodine? You 284 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: really think so? All right, Steve Coola is going to 285 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: be our guest next, of course, the former La County 286 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: DA and one of the major organizers behind the recall effort. 287 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: We'll find out maybe what comes next when we talk 288 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: to him. John and Ken show KFI And all right, 289 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: the news that came down last hour was that the 290 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: La County Registrar of Voters. Let's put out a press release, 291 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: and they have rejected the recall effort against La County 292 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: District Attorney George Gascone, finding five hundred and twenty thousand, 293 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: fifty signatures to be valid one hundred and ninety five thousand, 294 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: seven hundred eighty three invalid. The required to put this 295 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: on the ballot was five hundred and sixty six thousand, 296 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifty seven, So there's we're about forty 297 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: six thousand plus short and they threw out almost two 298 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: hundred thousand. This is just an abomination. We're going to 299 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: talk down to Steve Cooley, the former La County DA 300 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: who is one of the principles in the recall effort. Steve, welcome, 301 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: What's what went on here? What's going on? Well, we 302 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: firmly believe that the Registrar Recorder did not follow the 303 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: law they a became law September of twenty twenty. We 304 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: have evidence and admissions from that office that they used 305 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,719 Speaker 1: an out of date manual and they more than likely 306 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: not incorporate the new law which mandated that any signature 307 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: was to be presumed valid that to invalidate it. The 308 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: initial reviewer must go through a series of steps regarding 309 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 1: signatures that tend to favor of being valid, and they 310 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: can only invalidate based upon the standard of beyond a 311 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: reasonable doubt, and that decision has to be reviewed and 312 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: two independent people must unanimously agree it was invalid. We 313 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: think the registrar recorder did not follow the law, and 314 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: we are going to court in the next day or so. 315 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: We were trigger locked in this eventuality and we intend 316 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: to go to court next day or so to prove 317 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: that in court. And I hope we get Dean Logan 318 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: on the stand and our witnesses from his office who 319 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: will prove what I just said. I'll grant you at 320 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: But they're claiming these are their numbers that miss Matt 321 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: signature has only add up to nine thousand, four hundred 322 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: and ninety. The bulk of them is not registered voters 323 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: and people who signed duplicate times. That's about one hundred 324 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: and thirty thousand plus. I would find that stunning. However, 325 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: if they invalidated individuals because they signed twice, fine, that's 326 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: the law. If they invalidated people because they were not 327 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: Los Angeles County registered voters, fine, that's the law. I 328 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: think we're gonna have to tell further into this, get 329 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: more facts, and we have a great legal team assembled 330 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: to do just that. King. Is there a way to 331 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: review signature by signature, petitioned by petition to see what's 332 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: valid and what's not. Yes, there is a right. The 333 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: proponents of a recampetition have the right to review a 334 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: registrar recorded decision to invalidate a particular signature for whatever reason, 335 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: and I'm sure call gascon people will be exercising their 336 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: right when it comes to reviewing the registrar recorders decisions. 337 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: What's your perception of how many of the petitions were 338 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 1: vetted by that outside company that the recall organization hired, 339 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: because it seems to me that organization should have picked 340 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: up most of this in advance. I do not know 341 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: the percentages that broke down, but there were three sources 342 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: of petitions. One people responding to a petitions that were 343 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: mailed to them at their home at their residence address, 344 00:20:54,320 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: to the paid signature gathering companies, and three rather robust 345 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: volunteer effort of people concerned about the justice system and 346 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: how gas Going was dismantling it. So they had three 347 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: different sources. Uh, and the rate of validation or invalidation 348 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: from each source is something I think that I'm curious about. 349 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: It seems like the percentage that they found in the 350 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: in the overall total was much higher than the percentage 351 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: they found in that five percent sample that they took, 352 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: and I thought that was unusual as well. I think 353 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: the whole thing bears a lot of scrutiny. The uh, 354 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is that small number of 355 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: signatures were invalidated and the rest were from duplicates, uh 356 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: and uh not not in Los Angeles kind of registered voters. 357 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: I find that really really hard to believe, because I 358 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: do know that the recall gascon people went through all 359 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: of the signatures and compared them to the Los Angeles 360 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: County voter roll, and they on their own eliminated duplicates. 361 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: So nothing's adding up to me. I think we have 362 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: to take a good heart look at this and go 363 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: to court if we have grounds, and we're gonna meet 364 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: actually within an hour to do just that. You know 365 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: their options. Therefore, we are ready to go to court. 366 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: You know, a few years ago, Dean Lougan lost about 367 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighteen thousand people that were on the 368 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: rolls and the eighteen primary, but they weren't allowed to 369 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: vote the day of the primary, and some of them 370 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: never vote. Yeah, I don't know. I was one of them. 371 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: I registered for vote Los Angeles County when I was 372 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: twenty one, and when I moved out Alisburdi's peninsula, I 373 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: wasn't on the rolls Destitt having registered. But I mean, 374 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: he's got a sketchy background. I don't necessarily trust Jim, 375 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: but I do trust courts of law. If we're giving 376 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: an opportunity, that's where I want to go. And after 377 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: a judge looks at it and says everything goes to 378 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: the up and up, hey, so be it. We respect 379 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: the law, but I don't necessarily want to lay down 380 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: because Dean Logan reaches the conclusion. All right, Steve ho 381 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll have you back on when you guys have 382 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: your meeting and decide what the next step is. Okay, guys, 383 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: thank you. All right. That's for LA County District Attorney 384 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: Steve Cooley, and of course one of the prime people 385 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: behind the effort to recall from office the La County 386 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: DA now George Gascon And we got word that they 387 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: have rejected the recall, claiming there were not enough valid signatures, 388 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: and the bulk of them are people, according to the 389 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: county Registrar's office, people either not registered or who have 390 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: signed duplicate. That's a big chunk of the rejected signatures. 391 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: They rejected one hundred and ninety five thousand, and those 392 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: two categories that I mentioned is about one hundred and 393 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: thirty thousand of them. So you can see right there, 394 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: as you pointed out to Steve, the mismatched signature categories 395 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: not even ten thousands. So it doesn't look like that 396 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: is the problem with the recall. It was just that 397 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: the people either signed twice or more times, or we're 398 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: not even registered to vote, maybe not anywhere, but certainly 399 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: not in La County. All right, well, we'll keep an 400 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: eye on this and we'll certainly have them back on 401 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: when they come up with an answer to this rejection 402 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: of the recall effort of La County DA George Gasconne, 403 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 1: John and Ken Kfi and I will continue to update 404 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: you on, of course, the sad big story this afternoon 405 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: that the effort to recall the La County District Attorney 406 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: George Gasconne has failed this time around. Hopefully when he 407 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: runs in twenty twenty two. That's when we can vote 408 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: him out in twenty twenty four, I should say, but 409 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. They did reject about twenty 410 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: seven percent of the signatures submitted. That's even higher than 411 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: the sampling result that they had a couple of months ago, 412 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: where that was in the neighborhood of about twenty one percent. 413 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: This El Segundo time story that came out in the 414 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: last hour is saying, according to their recall expert from 415 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: UC Berkeley, that the Chessa Boudin recall, actually they rejected 416 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: thirty four percent of the signatures. It's way more than 417 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: the Casco So they must add quite a cushion up 418 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: there in San Francisco signatures collected. So I don't know 419 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: how to I don't know how to square that at 420 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: a minute. Now, This recall expert says that in recall 421 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: efforts it is between twenty and thirty percent of signature 422 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: is rejected. He said, that's standard. That happened, since that's 423 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: his study. So we were right in there with about 424 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: a twenty seven percent reject Can they were they've heading 425 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: the signatures? Were they doing it accurately? Guess not. I mean, 426 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: they spend a lot of money on it. I mean 427 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I just don't trust anything in 428 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: this system anymore. I you know, four years ago he 429 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: lost one hundred eighteen thousand names in the voter rolls. Well, 430 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: how many people are not in the voter rolls here? 431 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: Because we have eighty eight thousand people allegedly not registered 432 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: that's signed a petition. I mean, could there be tens 433 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: of thousands of people who are actually registered but didn't 434 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: show up. We don't know. And that's why you have 435 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: to have observers. That's why the recall organizations should have 436 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: been allowed at the table to watch this whole process. 437 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: And now they're gonna have to go to court and 438 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: they're gonna end up maybe doing a recount all over again, 439 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to delve into these other issues, 440 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: whether all the registered voters are actually on the voter rolls, 441 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: whether the duplicates really are duplicates. If they have that 442 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: kind of luck in court, they may just get rejected 443 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: and not getting anything done with this. So we don't know. 444 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: It depends on the case they make, depends on you know, 445 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: it depends on the judge. Right, Yeah, that's another part 446 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: of the system out our trust anymore. Either. I will 447 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: have war on this during the show this afternoon. We'll 448 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: see who else wants to speak about this breaking news. 449 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: We also learned over the weekend more bad news, and 450 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: apparently it really shook up debrah Mark. The Norwegian walrus Freya, 451 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: thirteen hundred pound walrus, who apparently has spent the summer 452 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: moving around between the harbors of a couple of places 453 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: in Oslo, was euthanized by Norwegian authorities. We had reported 454 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: this story on Friday. We had told you that they 455 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: said that they might have to do that, and they 456 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: sure enough did it over the weekend. I don't understand 457 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: killing an animal because too many people are gathering to 458 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: watch it swim by. Right, You need to figure out 459 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: a way to keep people away from the animal. I mean, duh, 460 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: just move it. If you look at the videos, the 461 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: walrist was climbing into boats, climbing on docks. So catch it, 462 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: tranquilize it, and move it. They said that they thought 463 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: it was a danger to people. Yeah, I know, but 464 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: so that's why you tranquilize it and move it. They 465 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: do that with animals all the time. They say that 466 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to sea animals such as whales walruses, 467 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: it's too difficult to do and often doesn't work. Why 468 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: is it too difficult? They did not elaborate on that, 469 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: But I mean, if they're claiming there's a risk for 470 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: the walrust, well you're killing the walrus out right now. 471 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: So I don't really get it. Yeah, I guess you 472 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: would have taken a chances. It seems like you could 473 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: coax it to swim into some kind of a cage 474 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: and then tranquilize it and then lift the cake jump 475 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: out of the water and then you know, drag it 476 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: or transported some way. Yes, there is a monster animal. 477 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: It's over a thousand pounds. It just seems like this 478 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: is the easy way out. They didn't really want to 479 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: deal with it, and so they just decided, okay, we'll 480 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: just kill this innocent animal. That I mean that that 481 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: walrist was doing nothing wrong exactly, and only because the 482 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: people were approaching him. He wasn't telling a story about. 483 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: A beluga whale that was trapped in a river northwest 484 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: of Paris died this month as rescuers were attempting to 485 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: get it back to the coast, A huge operation that 486 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: involved eighty people failed and it died. So also try anyway. Yeah, 487 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: well they better at night knowing that you try. Yeah, well, 488 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: that's the thing they didn't. They didn't want to put 489 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: the effort into it. It was easy. You think walris 490 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: taste like do you think it tastes like fish or 491 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: like pork? Really? I don't know. I was trying people 492 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: eat walrist anyw. I wanted to boycott something that mostly fat. 493 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: What's that? I wanted to boycott something Norwegian? But I 494 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: couldn't think of anything. And no, I was so angry 495 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: last night about this. But then I looked it up 496 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: and there's one dish you could boycott farre cow. It's 497 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: that's mutton and cabbage stew. Okay, oh, boycott it, otto lamb. 498 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: I will never eat mutton and gabbage stew. That'll show them. 499 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: It was a young female nicknamed after the Norse goddess 500 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: of beauty and love. The crowds were coming. There was 501 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: a twenty four hour live camera to film her movements 502 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: around these harbors. By the way, is there really nothing 503 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: to do in Norway? Uh? Yeah, it's a good point. 504 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: I mean summer, that's the best time of the year, 505 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: imagine winter. I mean, I mean to get to draw 506 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: that those kind of crowds. They claim that they thoroughly 507 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: considered moving the animal with the helps of experts at 508 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: the Norwegian Institute of Marine Research. They considered it not 509 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: to be a viable option. But why kill it? Several 510 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: animal welfare concerns were associated with a possible relocation, but 511 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:21,479 Speaker 1: this spokeshol did not detail those consumers made this decision. Uh, 512 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: let's see who made this decision. The only one that's 513 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: really talking is one of the they're really going to 514 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: murder it? They did know they did, I mean the 515 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: Norway's Fisheries Directorate. His name is Frank Baki Jensen out 516 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: of the head of Norway's Fisheries Directorate. So that's the 517 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: guy at the top of the chain here. How did 518 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: they kill it? That's a good question. I don't know, 519 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: and I'm sure that they didn't show that on their 520 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: camera a long range needle. I guess we don't. I mean, 521 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: we don't kill murderers here, but they offer an innocent 522 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,479 Speaker 1: walrus in Norway of all places. I can't get over all. Right, 523 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: when we come back, we're going to talk to a 524 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: guy who came to the rescue after an elderly man 525 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: was attacked. 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