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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too, our number two on a victory Monday West

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Speaker 2: Ruler Matt Williamson Here, as the calendar has switched to November,

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Speaker 2: the clocks have rolled back. A bunch of nonsense, by

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Speaker 2: the way.

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Speaker 3: Too, I mean, we're not anymore we do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know this. I've never been accused of

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Speaker 2: being the smartest man in the world. Okay, but Max

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Speaker 2: was telling me, of course, the great Max Starks fun wisdom,

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Speaker 2: fun game for him too, I mean, gets to call

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Speaker 2: a win, gets to go down on the field at

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Speaker 2: halftime and get.

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Speaker 3: On Yeah, itty cool. Right.

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Speaker 2: You should have seen it was funny. They had like

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Speaker 2: the Steelers like a handler, I don't know who it was,

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Speaker 2: if it was an intern or somebody who works for

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Speaker 2: the team whatever, who came up to the booth at

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Speaker 2: like the two minute warning to get Max. And Max

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Speaker 2: was like, wait, hold on, give me, give me like

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Speaker 2: a couple more plays here because something's gonna happen. Then

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Speaker 2: they kind of rushed Max down there and rushed them

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Speaker 2: back up, so we really only missed maybe two, like

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Speaker 2: I think, I think Kinger did the last two or

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Speaker 2: three plays by himself of the half, and that's about it.

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Speaker 2: And Max was backs. They had it very down pat

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Speaker 2: but yeah, but but they were able to get Max

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Speaker 2: down on the field, so he deservedly so could enjoy

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Speaker 2: that moment with his teammates. And there were some great

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Speaker 2: crowd pops in there.

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Speaker 3: But man had to be a great weekend for him too.

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Speaker 2: Dick Lebau got the crowd going crazy. Of course, Ben

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Speaker 2: and Jerome Bettis at the at the end there as

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Speaker 2: well too.

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Speaker 3: Was I didn't see any of it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, because that's the being at home and everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I slipped on red zone during halftime or whatever,

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Speaker 3: you know, right, Yeah, absolutely absolutely, and they were going

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Speaker 3: to cover it like you know in the stadium.

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Speaker 2: No they were not. But it was pretty pretty stinking cool.

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Speaker 2: And really, I mean, hey, I don't think there's much

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Speaker 2: of a coincidence that those guys come back into town

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Speaker 2: and the defense forces five turnovers and the special teams

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Speaker 2: gets one and and.

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Speaker 3: We mentioned even last week. I mean that stuff matters,

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Speaker 3: it does you know? If I'm Tomlin, mister Rooney, etc.

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Speaker 3: I want those guys around the current players.

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Speaker 2: And to speak to that. One of the cool things.

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Speaker 2: And Rob King and I talked about this on kind

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Speaker 2: of the special Alumni Dinner broadcast that we did on

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Speaker 2: Saturday night. How many iconic moments came from that Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl forty run. You start with Jerome Bettis over Erlacker

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Speaker 2: in the snow right when the Steelers had to win

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Speaker 2: four straight games to get into the playoffs. And then

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Speaker 2: that game in Cincinnati you have the trick play touchdown

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Speaker 2: and you beat the division winning Bengals on the road.

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Speaker 2: And then you go to Indianapolis and the Jerome fumble

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Speaker 2: and the Ben tackle and the Palamalu interception bs that

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Speaker 2: they overturned, and then vander Jack misses his first field

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Speaker 2: goal of the season for you would get out of

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Speaker 2: there right. And then you go to Denver and Ben

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Speaker 2: plays one of the best games of his career and

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Speaker 2: he throws that touchdown at the end to ice it,

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Speaker 2: and he does the double gun ship that you always see.

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Speaker 2: But one of those something that is still with the

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Speaker 2: Steelers organization now that got birth in that run was

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Speaker 2: who run that would use that as a rallying call

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Speaker 2: for the defense. And that was in the locker room

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Speaker 2: after that Colts playoff win. He's like, you know, Bill

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Speaker 2: Cower was like, you guys backed it up. Pez said

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Speaker 2: this group was soft, and you came in here and

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Speaker 2: proved that they were soft. But Pez, can you please

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Speaker 2: keep your mouth shut this week? And Pez goes, no coach,

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Speaker 2: they shot me in Denver?

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Speaker 3: Who Run?

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Speaker 2: They still do that now? TJ. Warwris now when he

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Speaker 2: breaks down the linebackers, you know it used to be

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Speaker 2: debo for a while and then you know, like that's

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Speaker 2: continued even after Joey Porter. That's the kind of final

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Speaker 2: rallying cry for the linebackers before they take the field,

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Speaker 2: as they all huddle up and they do that who

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Speaker 2: Ride chant. Missy was sharing this with us yesterday in

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Speaker 2: the pregame. TJ. Watt gathers all the linebackers to do

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Speaker 2: their kind of final breakdown and who Ride, And he

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Speaker 2: sees Joey Porter Sr. And James Ferrier standing on the

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Speaker 2: joined the So they're all doing who Ride? We rude?

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Speaker 3: Who Right?

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Speaker 2: Let's ride on three pas and pots you're standing there

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Speaker 2: in the huddle, you know, like that that stuff I

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Speaker 2: think really matters. Yeah, you only get that type of

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Speaker 2: lineage and and heritage and a couple organizations and all

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Speaker 2: of American sports, and the Steelers are certainly one of them.

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Speaker 2: And I think some of that, I think some of

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Speaker 2: that magic was was was there at Akroshur Stadium and

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Speaker 2: they needed it. They they certainly absolutely needed it. Matt.

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Speaker 2: Kind of ironic too that that'll happen against the Colts,

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Speaker 2: and that was such a huge part of that Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl forty run was beating that Peyton Manning Colts team.

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Speaker 2: It was kind of the prettig dogs, big dogs. Well,

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Speaker 2: they had gone to Indy like a month or two earlier,

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Speaker 2: it had gotten I don't want to say boat race right,

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Speaker 2: comfortably comfortably beat it was. It was pretty cool, pretty

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Speaker 2: cool to see all of that come together here, certainly

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Speaker 2: on a Sunday where again, the Steelers absolutely needed it.

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Speaker 2: I don't even remember where I started a couple of

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Speaker 2: minutes ago getting into all this and talking about Max

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Speaker 2: and on the broadcast and everything. But regardless, one of

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Speaker 2: the things that I wanted to make sure to talk

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Speaker 2: to you about here, Matt, and we should do this now,

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Speaker 2: was you reference it's a little bit in the first hour,

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Speaker 2: but I wanted to dig deeper into it. A lot

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Speaker 2: of the Steelers are so static. Steelers never change anything

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Speaker 2: that they do, particularly on defense. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: that there hasn't been validity to that at times in

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Speaker 2: the past. That certainly wasn't the case on Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: I thought schematically, particularly in the secondary, they did a

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Speaker 2: lot of things. I mean, they kind of had to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again I credit the coaching staff for taking

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Speaker 3: a step back and being like, what we're asking these

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Speaker 3: got to change things up. And frankly, against the Packers

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Speaker 3: and especially the Bengals, a lot of the scheme stuff

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Speaker 3: understand big blitz, but then there's no middle of the

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Speaker 3: his grass to cover. But from what I saw, and

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Speaker 3: again I need to rewatch it, I watched the first

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Speaker 3: all twenty two of course. And some things I did

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Speaker 3: see late in the game. I don't know if they

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Speaker 3: were just having fun or not, but Cam Hayward came

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Speaker 3: pass rush stuff and maybe just to put it on tape,

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Speaker 3: But that stood out to me. Something that really stood

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Speaker 3: like base four three, like you never see three true

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Speaker 2: Harrison, Harrison Holcome even though he's not available this one.

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Speaker 3: But with Harrison, they played the three of them on

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Speaker 2: They did quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: And that's not a look that I remember seeing at

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Speaker 3: all this year. And I was shocked. I don't think

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Speaker 2: To get if anything, you probably wanted him on like

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Speaker 3: I thought special teams only. Yeah, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: and from what I what I gathered was I think

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Speaker 3: because the biggest thing we saw was way less single high.

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Speaker 3: You know, they call it middle of the field closed

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Speaker 3: or you know, the middle of the field is open.

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Speaker 3: We saw a lot more snaps of middle of the

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Speaker 3: field open. Now. I don't think Dugger is a great

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Speaker 3: deep player, but they played a lot of Cover four

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to explain it too much, but

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Speaker 3: those guys aren't necessarily it's not necessarily Cover two where

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Speaker 3: we're just last layers of defense. They're they're they're very

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Speaker 3: a big Fangio thing. And frankly, just moving Ramsey to

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Speaker 3: it sounded like he took Dougger under his wing and

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Speaker 2: A lot of communication between those two. And yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean like the bad like palms up right right before

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Speaker 2: every snap. It was like hand motions and this and

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Speaker 2: that and check here, and it almost looked like a

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Speaker 2: Ramsey almost looked like a first base coach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right right, and all.

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Speaker 2: The different touches, nose touches, ears swipe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean that in a positive way, like

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Speaker 2: we are going to over communicate here and make sure

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think their blitz percentage was lower than

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Speaker 3: it's been they they they definitely did some things we

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Speaker 3: haven't seen before. And this would be something I wanna

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Speaker 3: talk about in the THUR in the week, not now.

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Speaker 3: But is the safety situation solved? Is Ramsey now basically

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Speaker 3: a full time safety? I mean it was pretty encouraging

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Speaker 3: and it's easy to say that today, But you also

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Speaker 3: concede something there too, like well what if you're not

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Speaker 3: good enough a corner anymore?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Wow, that could happen too, Yeah, I don't else.

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Speaker 2: Did have two hundred yard receivers?

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Speaker 3: And they did? They did, you know, So there were

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Speaker 3: changes some of them, as all inventions are, mostly because

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Speaker 3: But they didn't plan on playing doug Er and Ramsey

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Speaker 3: as full time safeties three weeks ago, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: this isn't like been the plan all along.

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Speaker 2: I like I said, took some not that Jalen Ramsey

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Speaker 2: is a lemon, but you get what I'm saying. Then

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Speaker 2: they took lemons and made lemonade, and that to me

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Speaker 2: was very encouraging because again, we talk about this every week,

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Speaker 2: but you know, today and yet yesterday and today it's

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Speaker 2: like the highest of highs wh division. We're gonna go

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Speaker 2: on a run all that. Just a few days ago

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Speaker 2: it was this team's gonna fall apart, we might not

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Speaker 2: even make the playoffs. Here come the Ravens. The answer

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Speaker 2: is always somewhere in the middle. But to me, when

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Speaker 2: you can now have the benefit of hindsight, certainly, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what happened in Cincinnati on a Thursday night on a

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Speaker 2: short week, older defense on the road against Michael Jordan

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Speaker 3: Receiver, Yeah, you know, real good. Since then, he's.

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Speaker 2: It's time to go around the league here on the Drive.

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Speaker 2: As we are now in November, the road is narrowing.

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Speaker 2: Detroit as nine and a half point underdogs, they win

438
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty four.

439
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 3: Yeah's had a lot of penalties and turnovers and Montgomery

440
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 3: had a really bad fumble that was inopportune. But I'm

441
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: I think the big story is I'm not saying the

442
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 3: Vike's quarterback situation is set, but it was kind of

443
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 3: a Michigan McCarthy style where his numbers aren't great, but

444
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 3: he made plays when he had to, especially downstretch. They're

445
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 3: in pretty good. I mean, I don't think Minnesota is

446
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 3: a contender all of a sudden, but the second half

447
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 3: of the season could go better than the first.

448
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 2: It could and don't look now, but the two teams

449
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 2: that wear purple will meet in Minnesota this upcoming weekend. Yeah, okay, right,

450
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: I am, I am. I do believe I'm correct on that.

451
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: I know it's Baltimore and Minnesota. I think the game

452
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: is in it is in Minnesota, Yeah, on Sunday. Now,

453
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 2: Baltimore has a long week to prepare, but they have

454
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 2: to go on the roads.

455
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 3: It's more losable now than it did a day ago.

456
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 2: Certainly, let's go, hey, Vikings, how about a little help baby?

457
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 3: Come on again?

458
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 2: Come on baby is now the Vikings are back to

459
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 2: four and four and have plenty to play for the

460
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 2: rest of the way. If that wasn't the most surprising

461
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: result of the weekend, this certainly was the Packers back.

462
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 2: And we talked about this a little bit, Matt, like

463
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 2: it was a huge spread. Yeah, I told you I

464
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 2: want the points just because I think green Bay, coming

465
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: off of a huge emotional win in Pittsburgh, was gonna

466
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 2: have a little bit of a letdown. I still thought

467
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 2: that they would win, but not by the two touchdowns

468
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 2: or whatever that they were favorited. But I did not

469
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: see Panthers sixteen, Packers thirteen coming at all. No at

470
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: lambeau Field as well too.

471
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: Now, what's making things be worse is Tucker Craft is

472
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 3: now off of the year now there that yeah stinks.

473
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I know he just destroyed the Steelers, but

474
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,959
Speaker 3: he's really fun to root for. And I don't want

475
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 3: to see Jaydon Daniels and Tucker Craft and this guy's getting.

476
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: Joe as much as we're going to see him this weekend.

477
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 3: Like that works out really well for this one works out.

478
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 3: We'll talk about We'll talk about that coming up, yeah,

479
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 3: during the week. But they are a different team with

480
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 3: and without him, and Kraft is the straw that sers

481
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 3: a drink in the passing game, whether people want to

482
00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 3: realize it or not. And the Packers have had these moments.

483
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 3: I mean, like.

484
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 2: Cowboys lost to the Right.

485
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 3: I mean, so there's some uneven this with them. And

486
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 3: they couldn't stop the run at all. I mean, it

487
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: was the best run defense in the league.

488
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: It's not or Jonathan Taylor, Jon Robinson that they're going

489
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 2: up against.

490
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 3: And Caroline runs the ball well.

491
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it's one of the few things that they

492
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 2: do well.

493
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Speaker 3: They do they invested in guards, Carolina and four. What's crazy.

494
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: I heard this this morning. I can't verify it, but

495
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 3: I think it's true. They've been an underdog in every game.

496
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: It would shock if it wasn't, right, and.

497
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 2: Unless they played like the Jets or the Titans.

498
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 3: Right, right, right. I don't think they've played the Saints yet,

499
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 3: you know, in the division. So they're five and four.

500
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 3: They've beat you know, this happens in the league a

501
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: lot of folks.

502
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: I tell you what, there's a lot of viable Coach

503
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: of the Year candidates. But if the Panthers somehow winning record.

504
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I'm kicking the coverage.

505
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: Five and four right now. They are one of the

506
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: more surprise and a good way teams in the NFL

507
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 2: this season. For sure.

508
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 3: Their defense was so bad last year and it's back

509
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 3: to being pretty.

510
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: You would have had them pegged if I would have

511
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: told you what's more likely they have five wins in November,

512
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: they get a top five pick, you would have been like, definitely, easy,

513
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 2: top five pick. Yeah, impressive what they've been doing. In

514
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: an impressive win there at Lambeau. Titans in Tennessee fall

515
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: to the Chargers. Funny enough, the Steelers next opponent.

516
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 3: This is a weird game too, wins by.

517
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: The same scores the Steelers did this week twenty seven

518
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 2: to twenty Steelers take down the Colts. Chargers take down

519
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: the Titans by the same score. This was a weird one.

520
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: Titans jumped out on them early, fourteen to nothing.

521
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 3: Two scorers that were not from the offense.

522
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 2: Correct, correct, and but the Chargers able to get back

523
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 2: in that one move to six and three stay, you know,

524
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 2: right on the heels of the Broncos and a heead

525
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: of the Chiefs. But maybe they won the battle and

526
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: lost the war. Maybe as were Shawn Slader's out, Joe

527
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: wall Is out, they had another offensive line injury in

528
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 2: that game. You'll you'll laugh at this. I was talking

529
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 2: about this after the Steelers game. You know, Max and

530
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: I were in the booth. His Max always does a

531
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: radio hit with Pursuda and Charlie Batch on the postgame show.

532
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: So he's kind of hanging around waiting to do that.

533
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you gotta be liking this. We're going

534
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 2: out to LA next week. It's a much shorter flight

535
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 2: for you than usually Da da da, And we're like,

536
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 2: how about the Chargers, Like they won, but man, they

537
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: lost him not an offensive lineman again. And Joe wall

538
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 2: Max does this from time to time. He goes he goes.

539
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 2: If I'm TJ, if I'm Cam, if I'm Herbig, if

540
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: I'm high Smith, and if you're watching on YouTube, I'm

541
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: like licking my fingers here. Yeah, yeah, barbecue chicken. That

542
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: Chargers offensive line is gonna be barbecue chicken on Sunday night.

543
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: It really is. And so the game wasn't as close

544
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 3: as it sounds, because Tennessee got two weird scores right

545
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 3: off the bat early on. But the takeaway for me

546
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 3: was Tennessee was possibly the worst pass rushing team in

547
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: the league going into there. I think they had eight

548
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 3: sacks before this game or something like that, and Herbert

549
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: was under duress the entire time by a bad pass rush.

550
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: And not coincidentally, you went through offensive tackles left and right,

551
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: and it's pretty clear we know Slater was gone before

552
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 3: the season, and that's unfortunate. He's a really, really good

553
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: player too, and they just gave him money. But the

554
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 3: games with a healthy ALT versus not a healthy ALT

555
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 3: have been night and day for the Chargers. And he's

556
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: one of the best tackles in the league already already

557
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 3: just looks like a natural.

558
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: And it's a man, I mean, especially when you combine

559
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: that they lost for Sean Slater too before the season.

560
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 3: Even, Yeah, you can't overcome that stuff. And then the

561
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 3: right tackle heart I think his name is, who's been

562
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: a total journeyman, also left the game, also got hurt.

563
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 3: So they could be on their fourth and fifth tackle.

564
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 3: And itagine if we were doing that here, right, I mean,

565
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 3: Calvin Anderson's like your best guy. Yeah right, all right,

566
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 3: that's a tough way to live and cook. And you know,

567
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's what they're doing, right, especially as

568
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 3: you and I overcome it.

569
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 2: One of the things we talk about in the off

570
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 2: seasons a lot is just how good defensive lines are

571
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 2: across the NFL, particularly edge rushers in the league. Now

572
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: they're all Apex, Predator, Alien Abbage.

573
00:26:59,119 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: Every team has somebody.

574
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you're down to your fourth, fifth tackle.

575
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: It's a tough situation.

576
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 3: Now they o Marion Hampton I think is capable of

577
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 3: coming off ir this week. Yes, and their pass catchers

578
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: are really good. I mean, we'll talk Chargers going for

579
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 3: plenty plenty A huge Herbert fan, but this was an

580
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 3: alarming turn of events.

581
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: For that Another one of the surprising in a good

582
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,959
Speaker 2: way record wise teams in the NFL this season has

583
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: certainly been the Patriots. They moved to seven and two

584
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: with a twenty four to twenty three win over the Falcons.

585
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 2: Matt when we did our pick them on Friday, I

586
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: told you that spread of it was, I think Atlanta

587
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 2: minus four or Atlanta plus four and a half, Patriots

588
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 2: only four and a half points favorites at home. I

589
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: was like, this has to be rat poison. It's too

590
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: good to be true. And Atlanta scores ten points in

591
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: the last five minutes to make the score look close

592
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 2: and respectable. But New England once again from start to

593
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 2: finish in the driver's seat in control. I still do

594
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: think that they're a little head of schedule and they're

595
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: bound to take a step back at some point. Seven

596
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: and two is seven and two. I mean, they're with

597
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: the Colts and they're going they're going to the playoff.

598
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: I mean, they're basically a lock at this point. And

599
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: my big takeaways from that one or basically when Atlanta

600
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: had the ball, Drake London was the best player in

601
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: the field. I mean he was.

602
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: He's outstanding force, and.

603
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: They're making great catches, routine catches like everyone the planet.

604
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: New I mean I always use this reference because part

605
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: of it is like when we had Larry at pitt Ball,

606
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 3: going to Larry.

607
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: Larry Fitzgerald over the top.

608
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: And once in a while you get that feeling, you know,

609
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase against Steelers London against the Patriots and Gonzalez,

610
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: their best corner got hurt, but they shoved. They they

611
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: stuffed the run and the Patriot D. It's really easy.

612
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: Look at May and the offense and they should but

613
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: the Patriot d is legit and they're hard to run against.

614
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: Jon didn't do anything.

615
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: He did not. It's a good Patriots Again. I think

616
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: they're a little ahead of schedule.

617
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: Me too, with their.

618
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: Defense, with their quarterback, they've got a talented tandem of

619
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: running backs.

620
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 3: They're in a good place as an organization for They're.

621
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: In a very very good place. And I don't like

622
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: that one bit. The Niners, Matt, despite every reason not

623
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: to continue to win, they go to MetLife, that kind

624
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: of always tricky West Coast team coming to the East

625
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: Coast for a one o'clock kickoff, but they take care

626
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 2: of business thirty four to twenty four over the Giants.

627
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta do some more homework on this game.

628
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: I don't. It wasn't on Red Zone much. I was

629
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,239
Speaker 3: busy doing a lot of other things. I basically got

630
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: the impression that the Giants are pretty shot. You know

631
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: that they're they're kind of at the end of their rope,

632
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: and they've had some injuries, and you.

633
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: Got some optimism rolling into next year about a couple

634
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: of things. If you're New York, Oh yeah, yeah, but

635
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: it's neighbors. I mean, you lose Scatty, right, and it

636
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: just you can only get so much out of Dart

637
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: when he's down his top two weapons. That defensive front

638
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: is talented for them, but they're on the field so much.

639
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 3: Uh, it's it's not pill climb.

640
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: It's a not pill climb. They're gonna be talking about

641
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: coaching changes and do you stick with the staff, do

642
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: you go in direction?

643
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

644
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: I one thing that I really like though, And we've

645
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: continued to get some questions about this, and we will

646
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: obviously do more of this on Wednesday when we go

647
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: around campus and certainly in the offseason when all of

648
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: our eyes will go to the Combine in the NFL Draft,

649
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: I thenk you can take the Giants off the list

650
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: of teams that'll be taking a first round quarterback. Oh,

651
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: for sure, they'll be. They'll be building around Jackson Dark

652
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: going forward, which is good, but it's going to be

653
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: a tough back half of the season for Big Blue.

654
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: And the other note though, was, we know the Niners

655
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 3: have sustained a lot of major injuries Warren or Bosa,

656
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: I mean ones that are bad. The first round pick

657
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: is pretty promising, Michael Williams. I think he's going to

658
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: be out for a big stretch too. I mean they're

659
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 3: just eventually it's got to keep up and or you've

660
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: got to catch up.

661
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: And another one of those if it continued. I'm talking

662
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: about Shanahan Coach of the Year. Yeah, teams like they do,

663
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: but I.

664
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: Don't think they can keep up with the Rams and Seahawks.

665
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: Those two teams look so good right now.

666
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: The NFC is crazy impressive. Yeah, it really is.

667
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: There's a lot of good teams there.

668
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: Certainly are. Matt. We said at three and six, you

669
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: can pretty much count Cincinnati out at this point. Yeah,

670
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: at three and five and coughing up one at home

671
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: like they did to the Broncos. Can you count the

672
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 2: Houston Texans out of this one? The Broncos again with

673
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: a with a massive fourth quarter to uh to come

674
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: back and win eighteen to fifteen in Houston against the

675
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: Texans seven and two as well.

676
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they don't still seem not to really trust Nicks.

677
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: Stroud left this game early on with the for Houston. Yeah,

678
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: and their O line stuff doesn't look much better had

679
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: those two really good defenses, which we knew was coming in.

680
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: But to your point, is Houston in too big a hole? Probably?

681
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: You know, like the Jackson will one again doesn't help them, right.

682
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, out of Buffalo and you get

683
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: three wild card spots, you know, out of Buffalo and

684
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: New England, one's going to be there for for sure.

685
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: At least two teams are coming out of the West.

686
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: And at least two teams, if not three, are coming

687
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: out of the West.

688
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: I only think one from the North. I think it'll

689
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 3: be the Steelers or the raven Completely agree, Yeah, completely agree.

690
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, tough sledding for Houston. The Broncos still continue to

691
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: just find ways to win games.

692
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, they weren't super impressive though.

693
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: No, they weren't, but they've won six in a row

694
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: on the bounce, and there's something, yeah, something to be

695
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: from one to two to seven and two. Uh. If

696
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: they can get moving in the right direction, Denver will

697
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: be very scary.

698
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: I mentioned that Michael Williams thing with the Niners. My

699
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: phone just lit up that he tore his ac always

700
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: out of.

701
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: The year, the man. The Niners just horrible, horrible love

702
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: two years in a row. Now they like walked under

703
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: too many ladders, or shattered too many mirrors, or opened

704
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: up their umbrella inside maybe all of those things. The

705
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: Raiders off their bye week, Matt. We talked about this

706
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: on Friday too. Could we see some life from the

707
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: Raiders out of a bye week? And we did?

708
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but goes a long way too.

709
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: My goodness, is he sensational? And you know, and Gino

710
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: Smith threw four touchdowns, looking much better out of a

711
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: bye week. But Matt, in a typical Raiders fashion, it

712
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: ends up being a missed extra point in the first

713
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: quarter that cost you overtime. And then I kind of

714
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: liked how they played overtime. Jacksonville got the ball first,

715
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: went down the field and scored. The Raiders got the

716
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: ball first, they said, screw this, We're not going for

717
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: a tie. They go for two and they don't get it.

718
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they answered it with a touchdown.

719
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: But they'll be one of those teams in the Raiders

720
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: that they're clearly now, Hey, at three and five, you

721
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: could have maybe fooled yourself into we've still got something

722
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: to play for it. Two and six, not a chance.

723
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: But I bet you they'll knock off somebody good down

724
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: the stretch.

725
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, when at least sign.

726
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: They'll be in Kansas City or la or Denver or somebody.

727
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: They'll throw a monkey wrench into the AFC playoff picture.

728
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: I can see that.

729
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: But another gut wrenching loss for the Black and Silver.

730
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: And I don't know who'll end up here, but I

731
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: don't think Jacobe Myers will be a Raider.

732
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: He's another one he better not be.

733
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: I mean, makes no sense.

734
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: Probably not going to have him passed this year. Why

735
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: don't you recoup something room. The Rams continue to win,

736
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: and do so in impressive fashion. They're pretty good, they're

737
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: very good. Six and two and they just I mean

738
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 2: thoroughly a thirty four to ten commanding victory over the Saints.

739
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Saints are overmatched. They're starting to

740
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: have a line problems. Shucks, not much any better.

741
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: And again it's like I don't think the Saints are

742
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: as bad as they're one and eight.

743
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: Rudn't either, but they're one eight yeah, yeah, and.

744
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to start having that conversation of they've

745
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: got half a season here still to figure it out,

746
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: but we rolling with shuck. Are we going to be

747
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 2: picking a quarterback in the top five?

748
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely a time to think about that for them.

749
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: The Rams can win the Super Bowl. Stafford should be

750
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 3: in the MVP conversation totally. They're really good.

751
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: The Bills getting back to feeling good after a couple

752
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: straight losses. They've now stacked a couple straight wins at

753
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 2: home against their bugaboo, the Kansas City Chiefs twenty eight

754
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: to twenty one. Buffalo gets it done, and.

755
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 3: They moved the ball better than I thought than Yeah,

756
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: say the Chiefs.

757
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: I still think the Chiefs are fine.

758
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 3: But again, I mean, if two days ago, if you

759
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: asked me you pick one team that's gonna win the

760
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, I would pick the Chiefs. I fine, four,

761
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: it's hard to get over. You may not even make

762
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 3: the playoffs. I mean it's possible.

763
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: If the playoffs started this weekend. They're outright Chiefs would

764
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: not be in it. They'd be the first team out.

765
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: I think the Jags are in over them.

766
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: The Jags would be over because they have the head

767
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 2: to head win tie breaker. I also think Chiefs haven't

768
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 2: had their bye week yet and the Jags have, so

769
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 2: there's like the half game game half game difference there.

770
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: But Jacksonville also has the head to head tie breaker.

771
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: When they had that Monday night victory over Kansas City,

772
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: I still think Kansas City's crazy dangerous. I don't think

773
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: there's anything wrong with going to Buffalo and losing by

774
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: a touchdown. No, no, they're five and four.

775
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. They were worried about them.

776
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 2: They should count their lucky stars that it looks like

777
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: Houston's falling off, you know what I mean? There might

778
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: be that kind.

779
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 3: Of I don't know if Jacksonville maintained, there might.

780
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: Be that kind of The Chiefs get the last chair

781
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: on the Titanic, you know. Yeah, some of these other teams.

782
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: Are possible, and I can see them being aggressive in

783
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: the next twenty four hours.

784
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: Too, I think so. And finally, the team that might

785
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: have turned in the most impressive performance of the weekend,

786
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: Matt if I were the Seattle Seahawks. I just want

787
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: to play every game on the road, particularly particularly on

788
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: the East Coast. Let me sign up if I'm a

789
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 2: Seattle fan. I want to play every game on the

790
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 2: East Coast on the road. Thirty eight to fourteen over

791
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 2: the Commanders. At one point, Matt, last night, Sunday Nights,

792
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: we kind of record our WVU reaction show, the WVU

793
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: show that I do talking about, Hey, how about a

794
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 2: ranked road win for the Mountaineers, needed that one On Saturday.

795
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: We're recording that show Sunday night, are kind of reaction show,

796
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: and I've got that game on my TV. While I'm

797
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 2: in my little basement setup, I'm like, man, Seattle's rolling,

798
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: Man Seattle's rolling, Man Seattle's.

799
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 3: Rolling, all never hits the ground.

800
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: I look up at one point and Sam Darnold was

801
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: like thirteen of thirteen for two hundred yards and three

802
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 2: or four touchdown passes.

803
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: I think I end up being like eighteen straight or something.

804
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: Unbelievable performance from him from that Seattle offense, from them

805
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 2: as a.

806
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 3: Whole, the defense was every bit as good.

807
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 2: As they continue to look like one of the best

808
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: teams in the league, legit Super Bowl contender. They're Matt

809
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: they're two and two at home, they're four and oh

810
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: on the road the Seattle Seahawks, which.

811
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: Is like two years in a row. They think they've

812
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 3: lost one game on the road over two years.

813
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: And but maybe the bigger story of that, other than

814
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: of course Seattle looking like a bona fide Super Bowl contender,

815
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: is the Commanders not only lose fall to three and six,

816
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: they're probably out of it. But a nasty injury to

817
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels that might have him out probably will have

818
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: him out.

819
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 3: For the rest of the year, I would assume, if

820
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: and an ugly one. Obviously they've had a couple of injuries.

821
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: They're not going anywhere. McLaurin can't get on the field,

822
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: and then Daniels, I think it's his third injury of

823
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: the season. It hurt a lot at LSU two. I mean,

824
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: it was one of my worries coming out, but this

825
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 3: was just a terrible They probably could have anybody the

826
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 3: way landed.

827
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: And yeah, the one silver of it is it's his

828
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: non throwing arm at least right right, I mean, if

829
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: that happens to his right arm, who knows what kind

830
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 2: of career ending type. At least a career altering, never

831
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: the same type injury.

832
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 3: But they're in a bad spot overall because they are

833
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 3: so old and they've they've sent a lot of future

834
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 3: picks for guys thinking they were closer than they were,

835
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: which this is I saw coming from our way, Like

836
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: you're not a final four team last year. You just

837
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: happened to make the Final four. You know you're not.

838
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: You're not Duke or Kentucky. You were just one of these,

839
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: you know, twelve seeds that got hot at the right

840
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 2: time the year before.

841
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 3: You earned the second overall pick. You're not Deebo Samuel

842
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: a way from beating the Chiefs and Bills.

843
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: Yes, and I know that I've told you this before.

844
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: I never wanted to see a Steelers team in the

845
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: position of like, all right, we're punting on the back

846
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: half of this season. It's over. We're focusing on next

847
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 2: year because then all of a sudden, our job gets

848
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 2: much more difficult.

849
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: But it does.

850
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeh, But if I'm the Commanders, it might be time

851
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: to start thinking about twenty twenty.

852
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: Six, especially after this injury happened.

853
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: After this injury happens, you are so old on defense,

854
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: you're going to have a top twelve draft pick, top

855
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: ten draft pick.

856
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 3: You can't be counting on the Ertzes and Bobby Wagner.

857
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 3: You can't those guys.

858
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: You can't, right, And you still have to have faith

859
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: in your young quarterback that this year will just be

860
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: an unlucky, injury filled one off. Right, let's let's let's

861
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: let's start looking towards twenty twenty six, which is a

862
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: tough place for them to be in after they really

863
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 2: felt like they took a step forward last year. Yep, yep,

864
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: Matt Monday Night Football Tonight, Cardinals Cowboys. Not the sexiest matchup.

865
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: No it's not, but it could be a lot of offense.

866
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: Dallas half, highest over under the week, Dallas. It is

867
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: in Dallas, Yep.

868
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: I'd probably take the Cowboys. We're getting Jacoby Rssett again,

869
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: which actually might make them better than Murray. But I

870
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: just think Dallas scores on everybody.

871
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: I think Dak's probably the best player on the field. Yeah,

872
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: game and Nick Lamb, you know that'll go a long

873
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: way for Dallas. I think they win a high scoring one.

874
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'd like that number a lot more

875
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: if it was two and a half. But I'd still

876
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: lay the three and a half with Dallas when we

877
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: return on the other side, we don't have much time here.

878
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: That was a beast. Okay, here's what we're gonna do.

879
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna save we do. I do have a lot

880
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: of tweets bookmarked and saved. We will get to those tomorrow.

881
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 2: I got a good I got a good Steelers alumni

882
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: dinner story for a good Jeff Reid story that I

883
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: have that I have to share with you in our

884
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: final minutes before we get out of here. We'll do

885
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: all of that to wrap this thing up. On the

886
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 2: other side. What Schueler, Matt Williamson, it's this. It's the

887
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network,

888
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 2: your tunes.

889
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

890
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

891
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: Final segment of the Drive here on a victory Monday,

892
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: as we've put a bow on a busy week nine

893
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 2: across the National Football League and of course a much

894
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: needed victory for your Steelers Sunday at Akrashuer Stadium. It was,

895
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: of course, Matt, a big weekend, not just because Steelers

896
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 2: needed to win. Colts came into it with the best

897
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: record in the NFL. But of course, as we've alluded

898
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: to a couple of times, it was the twenty year reunion. Lord,

899
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: that makes me feel old, I bet, or maybe not old,

900
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 2: but just not young. And I'm thirty four. I'm gonna

901
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: be thirty five here in a couple months.

902
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 3: You're not old, but you're not young.

903
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: I'm not old, but I'm not young. But I was

904
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 2: fifteen years old when that team won the Super Bowl.

905
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: They were the first team in my life that I

906
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: was old enough to really be all in emotionally investing,

907
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: understand what's going on the backdrop of going fifteen and

908
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: one the year before and losing the AFC Championship Game

909
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: at home. Normally, when I do those alumni dinner shows,

910
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: I did a couple in the past with Dale and Wolf.

911
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: This one was with Rob King. It's nerve racking for

912
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: me because it's a lot of the seventies Steelers. Oh sure,

913
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: And I just wasn't I didn't watch those guys playing.

914
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 3: I don't think ancient history.

915
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: I don't remember that even though it was twenty years ago.

916
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: I can tell you every little detail about that two

917
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 2: thousand and five team. They lose to Cincinnati. TJ. Housmanzata

918
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: does the Terrible town. Please, I'm putting my foot in

919
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: the air here if you're watching on YouTube. The Steelers

920
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: fall to seven and five after they were just fifteen

921
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: and one in the AFC Championship Game before and had

922
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: all these high expectations. They go from seven to five.

923
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: They win four straight to get into the playoffs. They

924
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: go on that gauntlet run, the Crazy Game in Indianapolis,

925
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: the AFC Championship Game in December, all that stuff. They

926
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: win eight straight games between the four regular season and

927
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: the four playoffs. They become the first sixth seed in

928
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: league history to win the Super Bowl. Like I remember

929
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: all those details like it was yesterday.

930
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: And as test to this weekend, there's a lot of

931
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: big personalities.

932
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: So many big watersonality, and so I was very excited

933
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: for this one to talk to these guys because that's

934
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: right in my wheelhouse. And I was watching the Super

935
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 2: Bowl forty broadcast, and this is something I brought up

936
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: to all these guys. I brought this up to Jeff Hardings,

937
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: I brought this up to Brett Keesel, I brought this

938
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: up to Chemo von Olhoff, and I went back and

939
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: watched the the most of the broadcast, like I just

940
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: found it on YouTube. Super Bowl super Bowl forty. In

941
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: the intro, of course, everyone remembers how Joey Porter told

942
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: everybody hold back, let your own out there by himself,

943
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: which is really cool. And all all those guys will

944
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: tell you best. You asked those guys, who's the best

945
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: you know, you played football your whole life, high school, college, pros,

946
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 2: best teammates you ever had, And almost to a man,

947
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: they'll all say Joey Porter, Like oh really, just the

948
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 2: way that he looked out for his guys and always

949
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 2: thought about stuff like that, that there was no buddy

950
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: on that steel Al Michael said this on the broadcast

951
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the game, and I was like,

952
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: wait a second, had to go back and rewind. None

953
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: of the Steelers on that roster had ever played in

954
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl before. Not a single stealer on that

955
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: Super Bowl forty team won or played in a super

956
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: Bowl before. We never thought about that or questioned that

957
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: or talked about that because they had so much leadership

958
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: on the roster. Yeah, you know what I mean, like

959
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of you know, from from

960
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 2: obviously Joey Porter and Jerome Bettis. But on down the

961
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 2: list of the Farriers and the Polamalus and the Wards,

962
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 2: and the Roethlisbergers and the Fanicas and the Chemo von Olhoffens,

963
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 2: you know, guys that had experience, experience and goodness unbelievable.

964
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: So that was one of the thing that I brought

965
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: up to those guys and they were all like, we

966
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 2: didn't know that. I don't know. Oh yeah, nobody on

967
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: the roster I'd ever been to a super Bowl before.

968
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 2: Like that makes sense, that makes a lot of sense.

969
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: So it was a ton of fun to talk to

970
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: those guys about that, just to get them relive in

971
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: those memories and all those different things. Do you know

972
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: Teresa Varley from from the steel and Steelers dot com,

973
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: she did a great job. I mean it was like

974
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: every ten minutes she was bringing us new guests and

975
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 2: new guest. We did mat a ninety minute show. Kinger

976
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 2: and I. We were on from five thirty to seven.

977
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: I think we took two We took two breaks the

978
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: whole time.

979
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it was just story.

980
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: There was a story after story, and our guy Tom

981
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: was producing for us back here and he was like,

982
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: don't break, like, just keep going. Screw like, yeah, I'll

983
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 2: make it work in the log and everything later like

984
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: this is too good, just keep going. So you know,

985
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: again I mentioned a lot of the names that we

986
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 2: got to talk to even more it was you know,

987
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: it was a ton of fun catching up with those guys.

988
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: But one of the guys that we got to talk

989
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: to that's always a whot is Jeff Reid. And this

990
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: was the story I had to tell you before we

991
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: got out of here. So Jeff comes to sit down,

992
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: and that was one of the breaks that we took,

993
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 2: was right before he came on. And so he's sitting

994
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: there with us and we're like, thanks for doing this.

995
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: We're back in sixty seconds here, and Jeff was like,

996
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 2: all right, this so this is live, Like this isn't

997
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: a podcast or anything like, this is live radio. And

998
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: we're like yep, and he was like all right, cool.

999
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 2: I got to make sure I watched my mouth. Three

1000
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 2: minutes later, he dropped the four letter.

1001
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 3: Word on the broad Nice. Didn't do a great job

1002
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 3: with that.

1003
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't expected anything less of Jeff Reid. It wasn't

1004
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: the one word you can't say because it was a

1005
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: little it was a little less. Not the end of

1006
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: the world. But it was just it was like that

1007
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 2: was one.

1008
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 3: Of my favorites.

1009
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: It was one of one of my favorite moments of

1010
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: the night. Was was Jeff Reid being like, this is

1011
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: live radio, all right, I gotta watch my mouth got it.

1012
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: Three minutes later, three minutes later he drops, he drops

1013
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: a four letter word on the broadcast. But it was

1014
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 2: it was just awesome seeing all the I mean, you know,

1015
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,959
Speaker 2: Bill Cower was back there, like a couple of guys

1016
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: weren't able to make it. Hines and Randall LL both weren't.

1017
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 3: There because he was on the flew back.

1018
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: Like Hines wasn't there because he's the wide receiver coach

1019
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: in Arizona State and they had a game.

1020
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

1021
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: Randall LL wasn't there because he now is coach with

1022
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: the Bears. I believe he was with the Lions for

1023
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 2: the last thing he went. He exactly right and got

1024
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: a little bit of a bum, so he was not there.

1025
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: But just so many of those guys, so many of

1026
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: those personalities, amazing to see them and like I mean,

1027
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 2: twenty years later, man, like that's that's just nuts pretty cool.

1028
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: And like I said, it was especially cool for me

1029
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: because I remember every detail of that. I also told

1030
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 2: those guys the story. I know, I've told you this before.

1031
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: My mom pulled me out of school that day for

1032
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 2: the Steelers parade. So Steelers win the Super Bowl. Yeah,

1033
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: Steelers win the Super Bowl on Sunday. Parade was in Tuesday.

1034
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1035
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: My mom was like, I told this. I told this

1036
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: story to Jeff Hardings and Chemo von Olhoffen and they

1037
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 2: were cracking up. They were like, you got to give

1038
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: your mom props for that one. It was a school day.

1039
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: My mom was like, you have to go to this parade.

1040
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: Haven't won a Super Bowl in twenty five years, Like,

1041
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: who knows how long it's going to be, you know,

1042
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: like we have to go to the parade. We have

1043
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: to go to the parade. God bless my mom. Coolest

1044
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: lady in the world. So she's like, but you're not

1045
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: gonna miss math class or whatever I had early in

1046
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: the morning. She was like, I'll come pick you up

1047
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 2: in third period. I'll take you out for the rest

1048
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 2: of the day and we'll go to the parade. So

1049
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,959
Speaker 2: she does that. They called me down to the office.

1050
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: We're getting ready to leave. The secretary in the office goes, hey, So,

1051
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: you know, like hey before before, Wesley goes, what's what's

1052
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: his excuse for the absence here? Why are you taking

1053
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: him out? And my mom froze and panicked, and she goes,

1054
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: he's got a doctor's appointment. Meanwhile she's decked in Steeler.

1055
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: I'm decked. And so we got like our terrible towels

1056
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: hanging out of our pocket and they go, okay, just

1057
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 2: make sure he brings in a doctor's excuse tomorrow when

1058
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: he comes back. So we get in the car and

1059
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: my mom is like, good Christian lady, hardly ever told

1060
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: a lie in her life. She's like, I can't believe

1061
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: I did that. I can't believe I lied. Felt so guilty.

1062
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: We're driving downtown. She gets on her cell phone and

1063
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: calls the school office and it's like, I'm.

1064
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 4: So sorry, I lied. I'm taking Wesley to the Steelers parade.

1065
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 4: And they were like the secretariat at Mars High School

1066
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: at the time was like, oh, no problem, we knew

1067
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 4: that you guys were going to the parade.

1068
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: We're jealous, have a good time, enjoy. So I told

1069
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 2: those guys they were they were cracking up, but no,

1070
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 2: it was a lot of fun. And one of those

1071
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: groups that just you know that one for the I

1072
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: know you'll remember this, that one for the Thumb for

1073
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: twenty five years, per I mean, Joe Green talked about

1074
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: one for the Thumb in nineteen eighty one.

1075
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 3: I say, when I was old enough to at that stage,

1076
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: I was like eighth and first I've heard.

1077
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: It twenty five years. They got close a couple of times.

1078
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 2: In the nineties, they got close a couple of times

1079
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: with Cordell Stewart and the year before Ben's Yeah, obviously

1080
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: it went to a handful of AFC Championship games in

1081
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: a super Bowl in that in that stretch for them

1082
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 2: to finally get over the hump. What it meant to

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Speaker 2: the city at that time, You if you weren't around

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Speaker 2: for it, you can't possibly quantify it. Now. Everywhere you

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Speaker 2: went it was one for the Thumb, the strip, district,

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Speaker 2: T shirts, the everything, and so it was a lot

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Speaker 2: of fun to see those guys get the get the

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Speaker 2: acknowledgement that they deserves. That'll do it for our show today.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to everybody for rocking and rolling with us. Thanks

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Speaker 2: to Rob King for joining us. Big shout out as

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Speaker 2: always to our video producer Tyler V Mister TV for

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Speaker 2: making us look hand them on the YouTube tomorrow, Matt

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Speaker 2: Big Tray Deadlines Show. We'll talk to Chris Adamski as

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Speaker 2: well too. Who knows, maybe we'll be reacting to a

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Speaker 2: Steelers move. Maybe we'll be reacting to something big across

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Speaker 2: the league, like a Trey Hendrickson type name getting moved,

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Speaker 2: something like that.

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Speaker 3: Stuff's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: But stuff is going to happen, and we will be

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Speaker 2: here tomorrow to react to it all. But that'll do

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Speaker 2: it for us today. Take care, everybody. We will talk

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Speaker 2: to you tomorrow as always. You know where to find us.

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Speaker 2: It's on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 2: Black and Gold. It's Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

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