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Speaker 1: The two top quarterbacks that were taking a year ago

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Speaker 1: square it off again and this time number one Caleb

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Speaker 1: Remember last year it was Jade and Daniels on the

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Speaker 3: This time.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams leader game. They fumbled, the Commanders fumbled the football.

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Speaker 1: beat the Commanders. Twenty five, twenty four. Washington finished the

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Speaker 1: night with three turnovers. That had three turnovers coming into tonight.

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Speaker 1: They matched that with three.

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Speaker 1: Washington had two fumbles, one by Jade Daniels and then

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Speaker 1: other by George Jacory Coski, Merritt and Jay and Daniels

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Speaker 1: throw an interception that led to costly possessions. And you

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Speaker 1: know when you turn the football over, You've heard us

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Speaker 1: say it before. You play for that and you pay

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Speaker 1: double give. I wonder what they're gonna say now, because

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Speaker 1: you know when they when they lose. Caleb Williams this

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Speaker 1: So winning or losing his nails don't have anything, oh Joe,

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Speaker 1: was very well tonight. He was seventeen or twenty nine

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Speaker 1: they ran the ball. I thought DeAndre Swift did a

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Speaker 1: The one thing you didn't want to do was give

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams didn't have a touchdown pass that was also

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Speaker 3: But I thought they played really, really well.

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Speaker 1: Washington's gonna kick themselves because they turned the ball over,

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Speaker 1: which they had done a great job of taking care

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Speaker 1: Now, hopefully you watch the lights on the on the

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Speaker 1: on the way back to the house. Huh highlights? What

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Speaker 4: No, I ain't watching the highlight. I watched the game.

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Speaker 1: Huh okay, so what what what? What did you What

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Speaker 4: Well, obviously I like Caleb. Caleb was very passionate. He

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Speaker 4: was struggling. He was struggling a little bit despite what

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Speaker 4: it what it looked like he was. He was a

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Speaker 4: but towards the end of the towards it, towards the

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Speaker 4: He hit the DeAndre Swift.

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Speaker 4: We forgot them fifty five Obviously mistackles and we'll play

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Speaker 4: a game like that andlem whether it was very bad.

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Speaker 4: The one thing you don't want to do is turn

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Speaker 4: commanders did do. The commanders turned them all over. They pressured.

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Speaker 4: They had four or five man pressures. The pressure. God

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Speaker 4: damn Jaydon Daills and I don't want to say he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but look, this game could have been a far death,

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Speaker 1: could have been better. I think you I got to

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Speaker 1: Dennis Allen. Dennis Allen, we know he's a very good

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Speaker 1: But as a defensive coordinator, you go back and look

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Speaker 1: Caleb took his eyes off the ball. They had a

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Speaker 3: But he played well. Giving the conditions.

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Speaker 1: Now both teams played there wasn't like one team was

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Speaker 1: playing outside and then cleming weather. They were both. But

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Speaker 1: I thought the Bears did a better job of dealing

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Speaker 1: got that. First conditions, whichever team can handle those conditions

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Speaker 4: I will say, not only handle the conditions the best,

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Speaker 4: You gotta protect the ball because you know, as you

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Speaker 4: always say, you pay, You paid double for those turnovers.

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Speaker 4: And that's exactly what happened to the Commanders the night.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Caleb Williams seventeen to twenty nine, two fifty two,

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Speaker 1: one touchdown, jayde Daniels nineteen to twenty six to one eleven,

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Speaker 1: three touchdowns, But when you turn the ball over, you

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Speaker 1: don't really get to an opportunity because they turned it

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Speaker 3: But hey, they'll learn from this.

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Speaker 1: They got to do a better job of protecting because look,

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Speaker 1: there's no clear cut favorite in either conference. I don't

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Speaker 1: if teams played their best and you're slightly off. Now

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Speaker 1: those teams played their best. Do I think Washington is

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Speaker 1: they lowered themselves or they elevated the Bears by turning

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Speaker 1: And I thought Ben Johnson called a great game for

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Speaker 1: but they ended up getting them back. But Washington's got

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Speaker 4: A game next week, right right back to it.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes that's the twenty four hour rule. Sometimes that's

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Speaker 1: You hate to go into a bye week after the

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Speaker 3: That's over. Now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was bad. That was bad on and the

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Speaker 3: Never. But the Bears beat the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: This time, Kayler Williams drives his ball club down, gets

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Speaker 3: Twenty five twenty four, the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Beat the Commanders a game two, and Atlanta Falcons took

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Speaker 4: He was always in the discussion. Yeah, based on his

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Speaker 1: The you know teams like that or Pittsburgh or the

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Speaker 1: Ravens or Baltimore, things like that. But the Falcons and

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Speaker 1: if they win, if they continue to win, the following year.

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Speaker 1: Normally what happens, you win, and then the following year

441
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Speaker 1: old show. That's when you get the games that are televised,

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Speaker 1: because they normally reward you a year a year later. Now,

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Speaker 1: maybe who knows, maybe the Falcons get flexed and we

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Speaker 1: see them on a Sunday night or we see them

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Speaker 1: or in a situation like this.

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Speaker 3: But Bijon is is yeah.

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Speaker 1: Heat that dude, he that dude nice. How many a

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Speaker 1: Russia teams can we look up?

449
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Speaker 3: Ask right quick? How many Russian temps did.

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Speaker 1: Cook have in the first half compared to the second half,

451
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Speaker 1: Because it seemed to me I could be wrong.

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Speaker 3: That he ran more in the second half than he

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Speaker 3: did the first.

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Speaker 1: I mean twenty four rushing tip where they only had

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Speaker 1: the ball like fifty plays. I was right, right, he

456
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Speaker 1: had seven in the first half, ten in the second half. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, I was right, but I think and it

458
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Speaker 1: wasn't like because they tossed the ball to h to

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Speaker 1: Bijon and he went eighty one yards and so that

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Speaker 1: didn't take long until you got the ball back. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't like they was having these grinded out drives that

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Speaker 1: you know, twelve fourteen plays sixteen plays, twenty plays, eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen play drives.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have any of those, so Buffalo got to

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Speaker 1: get back to the drawing board. The defense is is

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Speaker 1: their offense? Is their defense? Yeah, Josh Allen normally has

467
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Speaker 1: to wear that cape. Yes, and when he doesn't wear

468
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Speaker 1: that cape, they're a very average football team. And that's

469
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Speaker 1: how most that's how most teams are driven. You look

470
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Speaker 1: at Lamar when he doesn't when he doesn't have that kpon.

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Speaker 1: Now he has a big bringing back, but you still

472
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Speaker 1: have to pay attention to number eight Mahomes. He normally

473
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Speaker 1: has to play play great in order for them to win.

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Speaker 1: And that's how the teams are situated. Now, you pay

475
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Speaker 1: this so much money in those guys, and when they

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Speaker 1: don't play well, they look very marginal, they look very average. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and uh, and that's what happened to night. Buffalo didn't

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Speaker 1: look good. Tonight Buffalo hadn't looked good. I don't think

479
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Speaker 1: the last two game. I think that this is the

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Speaker 1: second game they've lost, right, So this is back to

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Speaker 1: back losses for them, Joe, and they haven't looked good

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Speaker 1: in either game.

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Speaker 3: Sean mcnermy's gonna have to do better. You're gonna be

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Speaker 3: on the hot seat, you think so? Absolutely? Absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Oh wait a minute, now, we talk about the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Talk about the Buffalo Bill and they just got they

487
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Speaker 1: just got to prove for new funding for a new stadium.

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Speaker 1: They've been he's been the coach, he's a defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: They got rid of Leslie Fraser. Yes, and at some

490
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Speaker 1: point in time, Theolas, you're gonna want a return on

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Speaker 1: that investment, which means getting to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I'm tired of being the bridesmaid.

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of tending everybody else's wedding and everybody else

494
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Speaker 1: is getting married except I.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I just don't see it. Maybe you

496
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Speaker 4: see it a little different than me. Maybe you see

497
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Speaker 4: it a little differently than I do when I when

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Speaker 4: I look at the Bills. Obviously, they gonna always come

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Speaker 4: out to the a s C East, they can always

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Speaker 4: do that. They're always going to be in contention. So

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Speaker 4: there's a chance that if they will, they will be

502
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Speaker 4: maybe in the a SC Championship. But I wouldn't see

503
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Speaker 4: theola is pulling the trigger that fast, knowing that you

504
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Speaker 4: already have a quarterback in place.

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Speaker 1: Yes, get somebody else to coach it, you think so so,

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Speaker 1: So at what point in time do I keep hitting

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Speaker 1: my head on the ceiling and realize this is how

508
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Speaker 1: as I can go damn, Cause look, I don't care

509
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Speaker 1: how big an animals is supposed to get, but if

510
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Speaker 1: you can find him into an environment, he's only gonna

511
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Speaker 1: get so big he'll go to the com finds with

512
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Speaker 1: that environment. Maybe maybe. And I don't advocate anyone losing

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Speaker 1: their job. Sean McDermott is taking them as far as

514
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Speaker 1: he can take them. I mean, at some point it happened,

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Speaker 1: Tony Done, you got fired.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I remember that.

517
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Speaker 1: But John Drewden did what came in the first year

518
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Speaker 1: and did what with the Super Bowl? Okay, we saw

519
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Speaker 1: that with Mark Jackson and the Golden State Warriors, we

520
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Speaker 1: see that a lot.

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Speaker 3: We saw that with Phil Jackson with the Lakers. It happened.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmmm. I don't know, especially especially a team like

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Speaker 4: that that that that's so high powered. When Josh Allen

524
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Speaker 4: is on, there's certain mistakes that they can't make in

525
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Speaker 4: the playoffs that have haunted him. And and most of

526
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Speaker 4: the time, I hate the fact that the coaches get

527
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Speaker 4: blamed for the mistakes that the players make and important

528
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Speaker 4: games where moments matter most. But I kind of give

529
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Speaker 4: what you're saying, but I kind of don't because they're

530
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Speaker 4: so good. When Josh Allen is on, when he's all.

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Speaker 1: I'm I didn't pay it. Got three hundred million dollars

532
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Speaker 1: for the regular season. That's not what I That's not

533
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Speaker 1: what I gave him, two hundred and sixty plus million dollars,

534
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Speaker 1: fully guaranteed for he's already been to the how many

535
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Speaker 1: times he's been to the championship game and we see them.

536
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Speaker 1: He keeps losing to who be at Kansas City, at

537
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Speaker 1: home or on the road. It does not matter.

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Speaker 4: You gotta get you gotta get over that. Humphy.

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Speaker 1: Look, Thegoulas, the Pegoulas, Uh, they got that. They got

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Speaker 1: a funding for a new stadium. They're gonna have a

541
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Speaker 1: new stadium in Buffalo. And I know, Look, but he

542
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Speaker 1: wins ten games. That's not good twelve games, that's not

543
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Speaker 1: good enough. They have underachieved. They got one of No

544
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Speaker 1: matter what you think of him, they got have to

545
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Speaker 1: have one of the three best quarterbacks in football. And

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Speaker 1: they've had this type of high powered offense for the longest. Yes,

547
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Speaker 1: and every year that they don't get it done. That

548
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Speaker 1: this was supposed to be the year they take down

549
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. This was supposed to be the year. Remember

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Speaker 1: Buffalo went in there and beat him. They had all

551
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Speaker 1: we want Patrick Mahons. We got Patrick mahonmes, and he

552
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Speaker 1: got to come to Buffalo. He went to Buffalo, put

553
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Speaker 1: foot center. If they go to Kansas City, he put

554
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Speaker 1: foot Center. So it doesn't matter. At some point in time,

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, we've got that. We've got to get to

556
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Speaker 1: the promise.

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Speaker 4: Of the conversation. Yeah, I guess.

558
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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I remember people told me I was crazy when I

560
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Speaker 1: said Penn State is gonna get tired of James Franklin.

561
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Speaker 1: Now that Ad said exactly what I said. It played

562
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Speaker 1: a role that he couldn't beat the big time teams.

563
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Speaker 1: He beat one team in the top ten in the

564
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Speaker 1: Big Ten, and that was twenty sixteen when he beat

565
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. He's four and twenty one against top ten opponents.

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Speaker 1: I said, they're gonna get tired of that. Now you

567
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Speaker 1: can't beat the team that you can't beat the big

568
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Speaker 1: time teams, and now you're losing the team you should never.

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Speaker 4: Lose to yeah, yeah, I think man, oh.

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Speaker 1: Man, man, you reach it. He was just an in

571
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Speaker 1: the college football playoffs last year. Now where is he at?

572
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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk, We're gonna talk about We're gonn talk

574
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Speaker 1: about that. We're talking about that a little later. But

575
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, o yo, these owners, they see, in

576
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Speaker 1: order to beat the man, you gotta feel you have

577
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Speaker 1: a man. Yeah, they feel they got a guy that

578
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Speaker 1: can go toe to toe with Patrick Mahomes. They feel

579
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Speaker 1: they got a guy that can go toe to toe

580
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Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson, with Joe Burrow, whatever quarterback that you

581
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Speaker 1: have in the ALC that you're gonna need to stand

582
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Speaker 1: toe to toe with and come out of the ALC

583
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Speaker 1: to get to the super Bowl. They feel they got

584
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Speaker 1: won in six foot five two and forty five pounds.

585
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Yes, sir, now, I but Googlers want to

586
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Speaker 1: know why we keep coming up short?

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Speaker 3: Okay.

588
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Speaker 4: I hate I hate that. I hate that the owners

589
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 4: always falls back on the coach, especially in games like that,

590
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Speaker 4: especially in the playoffs where you're turning the ball over where

591
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Speaker 4: you're fumbling, and you know the coach he can't, he can't,

592
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Speaker 4: He done, got no control over that. But I mean

593
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Speaker 4: that's that's the business. That's the way it works.

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Speaker 1: Did they get let me ask your question. Did they

595
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Speaker 1: give Sean mc may credit for when they won the

596
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay.

599
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Speaker 1: They didn't give coach Belichick any credit for winning them

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls?

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.

602
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Speaker 3: I mean, you.

603
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Speaker 1: Can't get all the credit where things go well, and

604
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Speaker 1: then we don't want any of the blame when they

605
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Speaker 1: don't because guess what what you just said. Now you

606
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Speaker 1: said the quarterback that the coach don't fumble the ball,

607
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Speaker 1: and he don't do this and that, but when they win,

608
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Speaker 1: he don't throw no touchdowns either. He don't get no sacks,

609
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Speaker 1: he don't get no strip sacks, no scooping scores, but

610
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Speaker 1: he gets credit. It absolutely is. But I definitely did

611
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Speaker 1: not see. I didn't I didn't see. I didn't see

612
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Speaker 1: Buffalo struggling early, especially after the way they came back

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Speaker 1: in that game.

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Speaker 3: That game, the first game against the.

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Speaker 1: Ravens, I thought that, I'm like, okay, well you look

616
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Speaker 1: at the schedule, like okay.

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Speaker 4: And it's really not surprising that they did. I know

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Speaker 4: Lamar played, but seeing how the Ravens have looked since

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Speaker 4: that game, it's not surprising that they did come back

620
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Speaker 4: and win that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it was.

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Speaker 4: It was only it was only a matter of time

623
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Speaker 4: before the scabble and that came off and and everything

624
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 4: was exposed defensively. Now having Lamar out, it just shows

625
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Speaker 4: how valuable he is and how it's like he's taking

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Speaker 4: a team that just is god awful, which which still not.

627
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Speaker 4: They're just playing bad right now.

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Speaker 1: Another defense is bad, even though now the defense had

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Speaker 1: their best game on Sunday. Yeah, because the Rams are

630
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Speaker 1: really good offensively. You got Pooka, they got Davante, they

631
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Speaker 1: got higg Bit tight end. Kyrien Williams can run the football.

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Speaker 1: We know Matthew Stafford can throw it with the A's

633
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL. And that defense is really really good.

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Speaker 1: The Rams got a really good defense. I thought the

635
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Speaker 1: Ravens played their best game defensively. They got no help offensively,

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Speaker 1: especially from the quarterback position. Cooper Rush was awful. He

637
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Speaker 1: was all I mean, I'm not breaking news to anybody,

638
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: and everybody knows that he's been awful. Everybody thinks they

639
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Speaker 1: have a great backup until the backup actually has to play.

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Speaker 4: Hey, there's a reason that backup is the backup.

641
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you come in off the bench, Ohoe, the start

642
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: of goes down somewhere in the game and you come

643
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Speaker 1: in like, oh, yeah, we got us a backup. But

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Speaker 1: what happened when he has to play for an extended

645
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Speaker 1: period of time, which Cooper Russians had to do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be nice to have one that can keep

647
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Speaker 4: your team head above water.

648
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Speaker 3: That's all you need.

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Speaker 4: But it's hard, though.

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Speaker 1: It's hard, oh Joe, for the simple fact is that

651
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Speaker 1: you can't. You know, you used to have a guy that,

652
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Speaker 1: you know, eight nine, ten years in the league. You

653
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Speaker 1: could pay him a decent salary. Now you gotta like

654
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Speaker 1: hope the guy can develop mm hm on your bench,

655
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: or you get a guy that that was that was

656
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: a career back up, a career journeyman or something like that.

657
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: It's hard, Like think about it. Steve Young was on

658
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. He just sot for years and

659
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: years and years and years. You ain't ain't nobody doing

660
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: that no more, Ojoe.

661
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 4: He said for like he said for four right for.

662
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: No hell nah, he got there like eighty seven he

663
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: shot eighty eight, eighty nine, ninety ninety one. Joe got

664
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: hurt in ninety two. Okay, and he won the MVP.

665
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: They traded Joe in ninety three, so he socked for

666
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: about six years.

667
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 4: Joe went to Kansas City.

668
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: Yah he did, Yeah, he did. It's crazy, oh Joe.

669
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: The NFL suspended Brian Branch for one game for hitting

670
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: j Smith Juju Smith schust excuse me, Branch standard forfeit

671
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: seventy six, six hundred and twenty four dollars for his

672
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: one game suspension.

673
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 3: Branch is appealing the suspension.

674
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: NFL the vice president of Football Operation, John Runyon.

675
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: Boy boy, that boy, this ain't something.

676
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: Your aggressive non football acts was entirely unwarned, poised to

677
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: a serious risk of injury, and clearly violated the standard

678
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: of conduct and sportsmanship expected of NFL players. Your conduct

679
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: reflected poorly on the NFL and has no place in

680
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: our game. Branch, I did a little childish thing. But

681
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm tired of people doing a little childish thing. Okay,

682
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: but I'm tired of people doing stuff between the players

683
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: and the ref don't catch it. They be trying to

684
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: bully me out there, and I don't. I shouldn't have

685
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: to have did what I did. It was childish. Come on, come, on, Bro,

686
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: I know how you've played football too long, O Joe.

687
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: We know how to get somebody back if they doing

688
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: stuff to us to make.

689
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: It look like a plate.

690
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you doing this after that wasn't no, no, no,

691
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: that was reckless, bro. And I understand we're human. There's

692
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: a human element of it. But what you should have

693
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: done is just walked onto the locker room. You already

694
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: know you boiling. You know that, O Joe, just got

695
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: head to the locker room because you did all that talking. Now,

696
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: think about how you when they winning. Let me ask

697
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: you a question, had they won, do you think he

698
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: would have done that if the same thing, if the

699
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: same course of action Juji said, Juju hit him in

700
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: his bag and it was right there in front of

701
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: the referee, and the ref didn't do anything had they

702
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: won this game, Oh Joe, do you believe Brian Branch

703
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: would have acted in the matter in which he acted.

704
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so, but I think you know

705
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 4: you know what else happened. He was antagonized, not only

706
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,479
Speaker 4: all game the toss crack, he came down, he caught

707
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: Brian Branch. Brian Branch, obviously you got to know that

708
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 4: somebody got to call that out too, Yes, I got

709
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 4: to call it. They didn't. They didn't call it out.

710
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 4: He got Brian real good on, h didn't right in

711
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 4: the side of their hole. Yes, after the game, God damn.

712
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 4: Juju must have been antagonized during the game. He had

713
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 4: the nerve to come up and try to shake his hand.

714
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 4: He was playing games in the game.

715
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: Man, hey, bro, how you doing? Hey? Hey, oh Joe,

716
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: No hard feeling. Whatever happened in the game, happened in

717
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: the game. We leave it in the game. Oh tak

718
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: hold on, what's that? What's that? If it's in the game,

719
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: it's in the game.

720
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, it's.

721
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 3: In the game. It's in the game. We left it

722
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 3: in the game.

723
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 4: Oh yo, that might be personal, That might be personally.

724
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: Think about what they should have been stealing on us.

725
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 1: I should have been getting steal on out the every

726
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: game because all I did was talk. Oh okay, oh

727
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 1: think about it. All you did was talk?

728
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, but see yo talk You know our stuff? Well,

729
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 4: my stuff, My stuff wasn't malicious, up was fun. Yours.

730
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 4: I don't know if yours.

731
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: It all depends how how you wanted what you wanted

732
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: to talk about, Cause we could take it there. We

733
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: can take it there. You want to make it personal,

734
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: we'll make it personal. If you want to keep it.

735
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: If you want to keep it about athletic ability, you're

736
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: not very good, we can take it there. But if

737
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: you want to take it to another place, we can

738
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: go there too.

739
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 4: Hey.

740
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: I know, Hey, I'm gonna make sure whatever you give me,

741
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it back to your plus shipping and

742
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: handling because I need to make sure you get it.

743
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

744
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: Oh man, And like I said, anybody with the exceptional

745
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: beat cops, anybody that did something dirty to me in

746
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: the game, I got their ass back. I made it

747
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: look just like a plate from parafet do. I cut

748
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: a dude in the charges for the rest of the year,

749
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: I won't get you back.

750
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: Man.

751
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: You and hey, I got a family to feed. You

752
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: didn't think about that my family. You don't give it

753
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: down about my family. I give less than a damn

754
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: about yours.

755
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 4: I can't play with the knees, though I can.

756
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: I can play with how he played with my knees.

757
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a game.

758
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: Hey, don't you want to play this game?

759
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 4: Won't Joe? Yeah, I understand, But you know, once that

760
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 4: need go out. You know, most of the time, you

761
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 4: never the same unless you Adrian Peterson, you ain't never

762
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 4: the same.

763
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 3: He didn't think about that when he hit me in

764
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 3: my knee.

765
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got you, I got you.

766
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: So you so you want me to You want me

767
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: to think about his needs when he gave less than

768
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: a damn about mine? So what about my grandma? What

769
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: about my sister? What about my kids? Now, I'm gonna

770
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: get you back. I'm going to get you back. I'm

771
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: not gonna hurt my team. I'm not gonna get a

772
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: penalty to hurt my team. But I will get you.

773
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: Or guess what, you got a teammate, I get him

774
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: right long as y'all know how in the family you

775
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: and you in the family in the streets.

776
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 3: If I can't get you, I get somebody close to you.

777
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, it sounds like you said you sound

778
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 4: like you sound like the Hawaiians.

779
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: Now, okay, nah.

780
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: All, I will Hey, how we do all I needed

781
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: to know at the game? How we doing this? Snap

782
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: the whistle or snapped it after the whistle? Because I

783
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: can do it either way. It don't make me no

784
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: never mind, right, So h m hmm, you're not finna

785
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: do that. You're not finna cheap shot me. I think

786
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: I ain't gonn finna get you back right.

787
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 4: But I think we played we played the Falcons one time,

788
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 4: unc man, and they caught me with that cheap shot.

789
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 4: I think whoever the deepensive coordinator was at that time

790
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 4: in two thousand and seven, they told, they told them

791
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 4: to do that. They told whoever the safety was at

792
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 4: that time. I can't remember. I can't remember the safty's name.

793
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 4: I mean, the play was clearly over and the head

794
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 4: the coach, whoever the decordinated, maybe the head coach. I

795
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 4: need y'all to get chair. I need y'all to get

796
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 4: chaired off his game. Just hit him after the play.

797
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 4: I'm talking, uncle, I'm clean walking back to the huddle.

798
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: Dude came full speed, full speed, clean our clock, and

799
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 4: the re rep came and grabbed me. And so that's

800
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 4: how y'all want to play, and that's how we're gonna play.

801
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: Well.

802
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: Obviously I wasn't a physically imposing type player, but man,

803
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 4: I let that after that, Oh I let that. That's

804
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 4: that's that's that's that's that's that's the game. I did

805
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 4: the little the little saucy celebrate. Oh I had, Oh yeah,

806
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 4: I had.

807
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: Oh we we had a what you call him the

808
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: uh as a matter of fact, we've playing the Bengals.

809
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 4: Don't do that. Don't do that. No, it wasn't it

810
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 4: wasn't us, It wasn't.

811
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: I took out the whole defensive line. I did a

812
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: text block.

813
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 4: How you took out everybody? They tripped up?

814
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: They had.

815
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: Leg whip everything. I got the guy that was I

816
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: got the guy that was inside of me. I cross

817
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: crossed body him, and then I leg whipped the guy

818
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,479
Speaker 1: that tried to jump, got him.

819
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 4: Wait, they ain't call a leg whip.

820
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 3: They didn't.

821
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, they must not have been used to it seeing

822
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: it back then.

823
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: The word Hey, I'm gonna get you back. Oh Joe,

824
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: I got to it's a must. I forget my I

825
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: forget my damn man, my bad. I thought I was blocking. Yeah,

826
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: John done zoom won by my ear. I'm just going

827
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: to get I'm going to get the corner. Oh yeah,

828
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying. Uh As. Look at ninety seven and see

829
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: who the starting cornerback was for outside of uh Dale

830
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: Carter and I forget the other guy or oh he

831
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: was at Kansas City ninety seven starter.

832
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 4: And he was We used to battle warfield, right, nah?

833
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: No, oh yeah, he was there, and I think that

834
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: was like two thousands.

835
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 3: Oh that was the two thousands. Okay, I'm tripping mad now.

836
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: They had done got soft then, but you know, dealing

837
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: with d C and the other dude, what's this I

838
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: can't think of his name?

839
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: Oh man, Oh we used to or we used to

840
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 3: battle o Joe. Oh. When I say we battle, I

841
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 3: mean sometimes. Hey.

842
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: They would just putting me outside, saying, we don't want

843
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: you to just run him over, just fight him. Okay, Hey, hey,

844
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: just give me, just give me a couple of passes.

845
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: Let me keep my let me keep my streak alive.

846
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: I want to catch one catch a game.

847
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: I'm good. How we want to do it?

848
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 4: Hey?

849
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: What DC was the left corner? Who was the right corner?

850
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 3: James Hasty?

851
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 4: Oh remember James Hasty?

852
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: James Hasty?

853
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 4: Jay?

854
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: You week after him? Hey, Chad after? Hey, me and

855
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: Hasty used to battle that he yeah, because he tried

856
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: to he tried to punk the receivers. I'm not it,

857
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: not me. Let's say j R p E. I don't

858
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 1: play them games.

859
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 4: Hey, so you were there with Dave. Remember remember I

860
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 4: caught Deal Carter with the Ravens with Prime.

861
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, d I played a year with d I played

862
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: the year with d C in Denver. I mean yeah,

863
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: he came to us. D C came one year with

864
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: d C like ninety like men nineties like ninety five,

865
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: and then he played with me. But you know, meet

866
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: him and hasty, you know as a homeboy. Yeah see

867
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: just a just a let's let's make sure we stay homeboy.

868
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: And they got nothing to do with you. He got

869
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: to do with him, right, Me and me and what

870
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: do you call him? Me and d d T fell

871
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: out by that rest is soul.

872
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 4: Derrick Thomas.

873
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 3: I was getting into it with Wayne Simmons.

874
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: I made sure I never cut DT, never never tried

875
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: to crack back on him with anything. Me and Wayne

876
00:42:54,280 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: Simmons getting into it. He came, I like, what, oh,

877
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: won't I say? I say, d T, this ain't got

878
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: nothing to do with you. Let's leave that alone. Well

879
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: it got something to do with me now, yes, So

880
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: let's not Hey o Joe, I say, I said, bro, Bro,

881
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: they say this ain't your fight. Let his Wayne Simmons

882
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: rest his soul. He tragically lost his life in a

883
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: in an automobile automobile accident. Uh but bro mm hmm.

884
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: Once I go.

885
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 4: In, it's a rap his on.

886
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Earl Earl. Uh what was the dude named?

887
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: Earl Holmes?

888
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 3: Earl Holmes Earl?

889
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: Oh, he's smeck and got me too. He got me though,

890
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: he got me? Oh man, that joke if you go

891
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: back and look at it. I was miked up and

892
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: we u we scored a touchdown and I went to him.

893
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: I said, we're gonna take advantage of you. You the

894
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: weak link, you, that's you.

895
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: Then, yeah, he was a he was he was a

896
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: plug because you.

897
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: Know, back then they ran the three four so he yeah,

898
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: they had the mic, the plug, the sam in the well.

899
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he got me. But he said this this

900
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: was a bro. No, a childish is somebody walking off

901
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: and you kicked the back of their foot in the trip.

902
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: This ain't no childish, that's grown man behavior. Bro oh Joe.

903
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: You know why they got it because the whole world

904
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: is watching that game, absolutely, and they tried to go

905
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: to commercial and they get this, No, we can't go

906
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: to commercial.

907
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 3: We can't go to commercial. Now everybody see that.

908
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you trying to picture in Juju. It looked like.

909
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 3: Joe, that's a mean oh man, come on.

910
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 4: Now, hey, hey, it ain't nothing. Rolled a little stuff

911
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 4: with every blue moon, every blue moon, and keep it,

912
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 4: keep it exciting, keep it every where.

913
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: You think you for, boy, you think you for to

914
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: shove me in my face, and I'm just gonna just

915
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: let that walk with the boat. The only thing I hate, Juju. Congratulations, Juju,

916
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: you able to do it?

917
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

918
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, keep your hands to yourself. That's the number

919
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: one rule. Keep your hands to yourself. You ain't got

920
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: no kids this age, so don't put your hands on me.

921
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: Boy. A whole new football game would have been played

922
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: on that field.

923
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if that feel that turf got tore up,

924
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: but then it got tore up that after that, and

925
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 1: Juju Juju came in like he was like, he ain't

926
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: come he ain't come in over the four because come on, man,

927
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: but Jacko got the dude, and the dude grab your

928
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: face mass and still throw you down.

929
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 4: Hey y'all, no, hey, good, ain't ain't nothing like a

930
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 4: good old squabble.

931
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: It's about talk about leave leave podcast, the state of podcast,

932
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: to leave football, to real men. I guess you didn't

933
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: know what I did before I started podcasting. I don't

934
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: know if he gonna win this appeal. I mean, oh,

935
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: that's a lot of money on your that's seventy that's

936
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: that's a game check. They're taken away from him. I

937
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: don't seventy six thousand, seventy six six twenty four a

938
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: game check.

939
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 3: I know he's gonna get a game for that, Oh Joe.

940
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 3: The whole world saw that.

941
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same thing with uh uh j Carter,

942
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: Jayleen Carter Carter. Had it happen in the game, he'd

943
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: have got suspended. But because he got ejected, and when

944
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: you get ejected X, Y and Z, that's why they

945
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: didn't suspend him.

946
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: Oh.

947
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: I already knew he was getting a game. He was

948
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: gonna get that game, and the whole world saw that.

949
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: They watching mm hmm, they might they might be an NFL.

950
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna let you, ain't gonna let you, ain't gonna

951
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: let you. Uh, they don't do everything they can to

952
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: protect that shield otoe.

953
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 3: You know that.

954
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: Oh, if they find you for your socks, roll down,

955
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, how many times you think I got fined

956
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: for socks rolled down. Now they let the guys cut

957
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: their jersey. We tried to cut our jersey. That was

958
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: five ten thousand dollars. Y'all told me about one fifty back.

959
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 4: Listen, I cut mine and had and had it sold

960
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 4: and had it sold, so it stopped right at the waistline. Yes,

961
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 4: I got in trouble for that, got in trouble from

962
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 4: the socks being too low, got in trouble for wearing

963
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 4: gold clicks. I used to cut the towel in the bathroom. Yeah,

964
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 4: it made the street little streamer hanging out, hanging out.

965
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 3: Now you can't hang in. It's gotta be a NFL issue.

966
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 4: And listen, I take the fine, the black chin strap,

967
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 4: the orange chin strap.

968
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: Man, Man, they don't what you have them now.

969
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: Because I used to have a blue. I got a

970
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: white one, but I used to I used to have

971
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: a blue one.

972
00:47:51,560 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I ain't. That's what.

973
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: I acted right when I got to Baltimore. I didn't

974
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: do all that.

975
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: But nah, you guys, this is how it normally works

976
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 1: in an NFL game. If you cheap shot somebody, they

977
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: go to hell and beyond to get you back. But

978
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: in the process of that, they make it look now,

979
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: sometimes they just don't give a damn. They're just like,

980
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the I'm gonna take the fifteen yard penalty.

981
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't really to put my team in harm's way

982
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: by taking a fifteen yard penalty. So now I got

983
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: to get your ass back. But I got to make

984
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: it look like i'm blocking you. What I'm gonna get

985
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: your back. That's me when you do when you take

986
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: it here after there's no play going on on, yo,

987
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: everybody's decompressed. Hey boy, how you doing man, Good to

988
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: see you, mad man, good game man. Hey, o Joe, man,

989
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: you balling that a bad congratulations to a big Hey.

990
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: We'll see y'all down the road. We'll see y'all again.

991
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: So forth the song. So ain't nobody thinking about that?

992
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: Right?

993
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: What's the game's over? I'm done now. If I ticked

994
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: off about something, I'm going straight to the locker room.

995
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: I'm not mingling around because I already know see me,

996
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: o Joe, I'm a I'm a terrible loser.

997
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 3: I'm a worst winner.

998
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: So you've been talking, Oh, you've been talking, talking and

999
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: we win. Oh I got to steal out there, Oh Joe,

1000
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: I gotta stay out there.

1001
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, and and and Brian Branson's defense.

1002
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 4: Obviously the game was over. Juju went up to him.

1003
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 4: So in a sense, he's damn they're provoked him.

1004
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 3: Oh Jo, the band stuck his hand out. All you

1005
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: had to do was walk by.

1006
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: So if somebody walk by to shake your hand and

1007
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: they mush you in the face, you provoked him, Ojo,

1008
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: cause you stuck your hand out.

1009
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 3: You see how that looks. You see how that sounds.

1010
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: Your hand out to shake somebody hand, they mush you

1011
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: in your face.

1012
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know how to OptiX of a look, but

1013
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 4: I'll so no. They God damn those folks, and that

1014
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 4: that that appeal office. Whoever got appealed to. They seen

1015
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 4: the goddamn game.

1016
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 3: Uh Jacks and Brooks.

1017
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: So Marton hangs, don't do it no more.

1018
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: Uh Martin a run your tuck Uh h John running

1019
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: run tuck mertins.

1020
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, goddamn.

1021
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: But but you you appealed either the James track uh

1022
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: uh thrash or Brooks. They're d brick dB Brooks or

1023
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 1: and then it goes to so running hands it out

1024
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: and then you appeal it to thrashing Brooks.

1025
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 3: Okay, but just bro, he got you. So let me

1026
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: ask you a question.

1027
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, you think that's the first time that Brian

1028
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 1: Branch has ever been hitting the clips in the back?

1029
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 3: Oh?

1030
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 4: Probably probably not a toss crack, No, no, absolutely not.

1031
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 3: But I think if you play safety of course.

1032
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Juju is one who's known to get under

1033
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 4: people's skin. He's done before, yes, and he ain't got

1034
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 4: him good to get to get Brian Branch to break

1035
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 4: characters like that and in the game, not only during

1036
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 4: the game, but after the game as well, Like you know,

1037
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 4: it had to be some serious Well, he.

1038
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: Couldn't played He couldn't played it in the nineties in

1039
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: two thousand because what was he gonna do with hines Ward?

1040
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: Oh oh man, that's like, what was he gonna do

1041
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 1: with hines Ward?

1042
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 4: Now that's a different ball game.

1043
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: So he upset about ju Ju. Yeah, they changed the

1044
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: rule because of hines Ward. Mm.

1045
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 4: Yeah remember what Juju did, the perfect remember you got perfect?

1046
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 3: Yes, I remember, I remember what hines did, the Keith rivers.

1047
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 4: And broken jaw.

1048
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1049
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: Yes, they outlawed the blind side block because of him.

1050
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: Samp was the one that they put in the defense.

1051
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: Can't crack back on because when Samp got Chad Clifton,

1052
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: and I think what he just dislocated his hip.

1053
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 4: That sounds for me. Chad cliff he was.

1054
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: An offensive lineman. Tamp forgot a pick he was chasing

1055
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: and Sap peel back. I think he dislocated his help.

1056
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: That's why him and the head coach was going into

1057
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: it and Sam told him, you so to put a

1058
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: helvet on, you gonna put a help it on.

1059
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 4: I remember, I remember that game. Yeah, remember that game.

1060
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: If it's God, oh Joe, you know you're gonna get

1061
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: You're gonna get clipped, you gonna get hid. Things as

1062
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 1: football happen once the game is over. If I didn't

1063
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: get your ass back in that game, hopefully it's a

1064
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: division opponent, because I see your ass again either at

1065
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: your place for.

1066
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 4: Hours, and I'm gonna remember too. I'm not gonna I'm.

1067
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: Like an emphat. I won't forget it.

1068
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the best memory of all get back.

1069
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: But look, I think the thing is is that just

1070
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: take on the ship. You see how Dan Campbell was

1071
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, sa I love him, be said that that

1072
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: is who we are, right, take it, but hey, just

1073
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: take ownership of it.

1074
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 3: It was my bad.

1075
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: Let my emotions get the best of me. You want

1076
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: to appeal it, I ain't got no problem. Yes, appeal it.

1077
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: But to say this was a little childish thing, little

1078
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: oh Joe after TWA dined out his teammates during the

1079
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: last night press conference, Mike McDaniel said today he believes

1080
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: Tua could have handled things differently. Yeah, by not throwing

1081
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: three interceptions. Let's take a listen to what the head

1082
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: coach had to say.

1083
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 5: After a loss as as the franchise quarterback. That's not

1084
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 5: the forum to displace that. I think he knows that now.

1085
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 5: I do honestly believe it was not. There's no ill intention,

1086
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 5: but your talking about uh, you know, I think kind

1087
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 5: of a misguided represent representation of player orchestrated film sessions.

1088
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 5: And you know the bottom line is no one's going

1089
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 5: to be happy and always is looking for reasons, uh

1090
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 5: for failure to succeed. So you're trying to look for

1091
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 5: reasons that you know you can attribute to losses. And

1092
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 5: there's a you know, heavy as the crown of being

1093
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 5: a franchise quarterback. I think you know, what I do

1094
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 5: know is that he's directly communicated with a lot of guys,

1095
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 5: Uh started with last night and that's what team teammates do.

1096
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 5: And you uh, you live and you learn.

1097
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: What's what's wrong with Mike Huh, he'd be bro he

1098
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: knows it's over.

1099
00:54:58,480 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 3: O Joe, he knows it's over.

1100
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 4: I know it just it just something. It just doesn't

1101
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 4: seem right, you know, not now, only that with the way.

1102
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: You lose it, and you know after the end of

1103
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 1: the year, it might become Before the end of the year.

1104
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: You see, we're going to talk about the Tennessee situation.

1105
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: How Callahan after year and a half he got dismissed,

1106
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: which is seemingly not shocking because if you go look

1107
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: at most of the last number one overall draft picks, say,

1108
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: in the last ten years, only two coaches have remained

1109
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: the entire season, and they were fired and one of

1110
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: them was fired after the season.

1111
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 3: So with that being said, Uh, tour.

1112
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: If film study, if this is something that you guys instituted.

1113
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: You being a captain, you're responsible for making sure everybody

1114
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 1: shows up and how important it is to be on time.

1115
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: That's not mac McDaniel's job. Now, if they show up

1116
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: late to his meeting, they ain't got nothing to do.

1117
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 1: With yeah, yeah, you try to say, hey, come on, guys,

1118
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: let's be professional, let's be pros. Profession is our occupation.

1119
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: We're professional football players. A pro is how we go

1120
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: about our business. We show up on time. That Now,

1121
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: if you had team individual let's say wide receivers, you

1122
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 1: got film study or we got we got film study.

1123
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 3: As an offense.

1124
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: As the captain, is my job to make sure and

1125
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: explain it clearly, concise it starts at this time.

1126
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 3: Guys.

1127
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: This kind of what got us in this situation. We

1128
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: started letting things slip. We started letting one minute turn

1129
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: the two minutes turn to three minutes, turn to five minutes,

1130
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: and guys started walking theirself eight nine, ten minutes after

1131
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: we see guys start coming, you know, running on the

1132
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 1: field with the paths and unthinned.

1133
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no no no no no no.

1134
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 3: That wasn't happening. That can't happen.

1135
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: And so you have to make them, have to hope

1136
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: they understand the importance. But it's hard because I don't

1137
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: think people look at two as a leader.

1138
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 3: That's his problem.

1139
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 4: Hey, you know what, and then I have to have

1140
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 4: to say something. If they didn't see two as a

1141
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 4: quarterback number one. If they didn't see two as a leader,

1142
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 4: then they wouldn't paid him when they paid him.

1143
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 3: Man, no, they tell me what choice they have now.

1144
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: Brian floyd is wanted justin Herbert the owner wanted Tour.

1145
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: So guess who won. Brian Floryd didn't play that. Brian

1146
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: Floydes came from Bill Belichick. You know, damn well, you're

1147
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: not walking in the team meeting, You're not walking to

1148
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: the individual meeting. You're not walking in the meeting late.

1149
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: You're not walking into practice late. You're gonna be at

1150
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: the plane on time. But they didn't like that. That

1151
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: was too difficult. So now this is what you got.

1152
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1153
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: Former Dolphins wide receiver de Sean Hamilton says Tour himself

1154
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: showed up late for the first team meeting and nobody

1155
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: seemed to care. Doesn't seem like if fellow players respect

1156
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: him or see Tour as the leader of the team.

1157
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: Who said from the outside looking in he played with Tour,

1158
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: who said that a former teammate DeShawn Hamilton.

1159
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 4: Damn man, that's not good when they come out talking

1160
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 4: talking talking about you like all.

1161
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: I know as a former NFL player with fourteen seasons

1162
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: under my belt and being a leader. I know what

1163
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: leadership looks like, and I know when people respect you

1164
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: as such.

1165
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 3: Right, they don't. Now they're gonna come out.

1166
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: Listen, they're gonna come out and say all the things

1167
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna say.

1168
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: You know, everything is cool, but they don't. I've been there.

1169
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: I've said things about a locker room and everybody attacked me.

1170
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,959
Speaker 1: And then after the season it started leaking out. Yeah,

1171
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: blah blah blah and blah blah blah and blah blah blah.

1172
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm gonna take it on the chain out. Oh hey,

1173
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 3: they don't. They don't. I promise you.

1174
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't very often when things weren't going well. Hey, guys,

1175
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: let's have a let's have a quick meeting, right it

1176
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: is wide receiver, let's meet right quick. Hey, let's get

1177
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: together as an offensive group.

1178
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 4: Never no call outs.

1179
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: No, we have to call nobody out. But everybody we

1180
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: got a hey, we got a quick meeting such and such. Ay,

1181
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: after everybody walk out the field, A hold on for

1182
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: just a second, right, But that was a respect level

1183
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: that they have to have for you. But you can't

1184
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: ask more than you're willing to give. See, you can't

1185
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: ask somebody to be on time and then you show

1186
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: up late. You can't ask somebody to give their all

1187
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: and you don't. You can't ask somebody to take a

1188
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,439
Speaker 1: needle to the butt, to the knee, to the back,

1189
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: to whatever, to the shoulders, to the ribs when you won't. Right,

1190
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: you never ask more than you're willing to give yourself.

1191
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: Don't ask somebody to come in shape and your fat

1192
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: ass out of shape.

1193
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 3: That's how I operate. It's really it's really simple. Guys.

1194
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: Know, man, look already, no shop, gonna be on time, already,

1195
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: no sharp, and it's getting his rest already, no sharp,

1196
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: study his stuff. That's how you got the lead. See,

1197
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: everything to us said could have been true. But you

1198
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: can't say that after you turn the ball over three

1199
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: times because it make it seem like you didn't take

1200
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: your ass to the meeting because you were throwing the

1201
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: ball right to him. You see how to see if

1202
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: timing has a lot to do with winning. What you say,

1203
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: o Jo, you kick now two goals out there?

1204
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 3: O Jo, he throws for.

1205
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: Four hundred, got four touchdowns, good Gucci. But you go

1206
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: out there and you throw three picks.

1207
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 3: So I want to know.

1208
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,479
Speaker 1: But them guys coming in late the meeting, them guys

1209
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: not coming to the meeting, how did that cost you?

1210
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: Call you to throw those three interceptions?

1211
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 4: M that's.

1212
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 3: I just don't believe it. I could be told wrong.

1213
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 3: I doubt it.

1214
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't believe all of those guys look at him

1215
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: as the true leader of that team.

1216
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question.

1217
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: If Patrick Mahone called the team meeting and said, Okay, guys,

1218
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: I want to receive blah blah blah.

1219
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 3: You think they're coming in late?

1220
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: No, if Lamar Jackson calls that, If Josh Allen, because

1221
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: you said he's a franchise quarterback, franchise quarterbacks call things,

1222
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: people show up, it didn't do him any any good.

1223
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,919
Speaker 1: What was his quote about whether he lose, he goes

1224
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: home to his kids and they're happy to see him.

1225
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no matter what.

1226
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 3: Even though that might be true, you can't say that.

1227
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 4: And that's tough. That's tough, especially especially the part about

1228
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 4: your players. Your players in the locker room that are

1229
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 4: supposed to view you. Listen, they voted your captain. If

1230
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 4: everybody voted you captain.

1231
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 3: It was right.

1232
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 1: Stop and you know good damn well how that that

1233
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: that rig voted system.

1234
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1235
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1236
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 4: I just never seen, never seen a team or or

1237
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 4: I think more stuff is gonna come out, more stuff

1238
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 4: is gonna unravel as things get worse, you know, I

1239
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 4: mean they can only go up from here.

1240
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, I'm not on social media. I go home

1241
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: see my kids. Whether I throw five picks or five touchdowns,

1242
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,439
Speaker 1: we win the game, we lose the game. I get

1243
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: to come home to my kids who are happy to

1244
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: see me every time. Boy, you think I want to

1245
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: hear that. No, No, I'm happy you get to go home.

1246
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm happy you get to go home. I'm happy. I

1247
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: am happy that it doesn't I'm sad. I'm disappointed that

1248
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: it don't bother you because guess what, it bothers me

1249
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: because I knew what I put in. So that tells

1250
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: me you're not putting enough in. Because when you put

1251
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: something in Ochoe chat, you know this, when you put

1252
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: something in, when you work really really hard for something

1253
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: and it doesn't go well, it bothers you.

1254
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 3: And for it not to bother.

1255
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 4: Him, Yeah, that's that's that.

1256
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 3: That's the all the No.

1257
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: Now see, I'm gonna have a problem with him. O Joe,

1258
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a problem because it's gotta matter to you.

1259
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: It's gotta matter, and it don't matter enough to it.

1260
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 4: Well, listen, listen, every every everything matters to different people

1261
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 4: in different ways. Some handle it and show it in

1262
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 4: different ways. Huh No, somebody might might too. It might

1263
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 4: show here it's a little different than you show yours.

1264
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 4: You might be a little bit more more voieous, a

1265
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 4: little boasterous.

1266
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 3: Name a great player. I'll tell you what.

1267
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: Go interview any great player, any in anything in business.

1268
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 3: They worked really really hard to close this deal.

1269
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: It didn't close. As ask any great I'm talking about Trump.

1270
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I would like to think he's trying to

1271
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,439
Speaker 1: be great. They're paying him to be great. Absolutely, Name

1272
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: the great player that have failed something and then well,

1273
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: I got to go home to my kids.

1274
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 4: M I don't like the way he said it like that.

1275
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, it's funny.

1276
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: How it's funny, how I hear people, and I hear

1277
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: these people that's worth billions and billions of dollars.

1278
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 3: They built these companies.

1279
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: They say, guys, you expect to work thirty six to

1280
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: forty hours a week. You expect to have this X, Y,

1281
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: and Z and be great and have this enormous wealth

1282
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: and have work life balance. If you don't work, if

1283
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: you want work life balance, that's fine, that's fine. But

1284
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: I just just go talk to the great. Ask Michael

1285
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: George how he felt when he lost, as Kobe, as Braun,

1286
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: as John Elway, as Peyton, as Tom Brady, as ask

1287
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: any of the greats, because I think that's what he

1288
01:04:58,760 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: aspires to be.

1289
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I mean, that's what you play the game for it.

1290
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: But ojo, let's just say, for the sake of argument,

1291
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: that's the case. Don't say that everything. See, everything is

1292
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: not meant to be said. You might feel a certain

1293
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: way about a certain thing. Just keep it to yourself,

1294
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: because you know how a lot of guys, because a

1295
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: lot of guys, it bothers them to lose because they

1296
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: put they put a lot into it. That's not to

1297
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: say to it. Don't just keep that to yourself.

1298
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's gonna be tough, man. I hope Mike

1299
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 4: mcdames make it. I don't know if he is. If

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Speaker 4: he's going to make it, it's all gonna be on

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Speaker 4: to his shoulders, you know, as to it goes. The

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Speaker 4: rest of that team goes, especially offensively. You let one single,

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Speaker 4: let one slip away from you last week. Something some

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Speaker 4: i'thing gonna have to turn around.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't think Mike McDaniel's gonna be there

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Speaker 3: next year. Now, the question is.

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Speaker 1: The next coach. You got money tied up in him?

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Speaker 1: How can I does the next coach believe? Because here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. They're probably gonna say, what can you do

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Speaker 1: with Tua? Because you know that's what happens with Yo. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everybody coming in there, I can do this, I can

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Speaker 1: get this side and I can make it.

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah. Everybody is selling.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna sell a dream every time. You know what,

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Speaker 4: They're gonna sell a dream every time.