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Speaker 1: Front off sunfiltered time resident GM, Jim Bowden joining us

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Speaker 1: right now, and we have business right at the top. JB.

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Speaker 1: Roman Anthony and the Red Sox get it done on

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Speaker 1: the extension. I'm sure you're pleased with this one. Your

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Speaker 1: instant reaction.

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Speaker 2: I cannot believe Roman Anthony left that much money on

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Speaker 2: the table. I'm actually in a state of shock. I

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Speaker 2: don't understand how you can sit there and watch Ronal

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Speaker 2: Kunya Junior and watch Vladimir Gerro junior and see the

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Speaker 2: difference between the two, right, I mean, right now in

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Speaker 2: the bank, Vladimir Guro Junior is guaranteed five hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventy million, eight hundred thousand earnings. Ronaldikunya Junior, similar talent,

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Speaker 2: should be paid similarly, has one hundred million dollars. So

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Speaker 2: there's a difference of four hundred and seventy million between

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Speaker 2: the two. And Roman Anthony just signed a Ronda Cunya deal.

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Speaker 2: Ronal Kunya got eight years one hundred Roman Anthony's doing

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Speaker 2: eight years, one hundred and thirty. I don't get it,

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Speaker 2: I really don't now. Matt Rodriguez negotiated the deal for

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Speaker 2: Frontline Athlete Management and I understand, if you're twenty one

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Speaker 2: years old, I understand it's really hard to turn down

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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty million. I also understand that he'll

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Speaker 2: be a free agent to get at age twenty nine,

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Speaker 2: and he'll have a chance to get that seven hundred

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Speaker 2: and eight hundred million dollar deal by then. I get that.

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Speaker 2: I get the thinking behind it, but not when there's

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Speaker 2: that much money on the table. The last two years

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Speaker 2: of this deal alone, he left at least one hundred

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Speaker 2: million on the table, one hundred million, which is almost

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Speaker 2: exactly what he's signing for a one thirty. So, you know,

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Speaker 2: kudos to Craig Breslo and to John Henry and theo

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Speaker 2: Epstein and Tom Warner and everyone else that was able

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Speaker 2: to do this, because it's going to really help you

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Speaker 2: down the road. I love that Alexanthopolis did it with Akunya.

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Speaker 2: I love it from the club side. A boy, can

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Speaker 2: you imagine what Scott Boris is thinking right now? My goodness,

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Speaker 2: scud Bars doesn't have him.

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Speaker 3: Skud Bars doesn't have him. Jim, So, what was your

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Speaker 3: job before you became a before Well you would tell

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Speaker 3: but that's a different story. But there's there's a long

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Speaker 3: list of guys that didn't sign that extension with Boris

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Speaker 3: and didn't make the money either, so you can go

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Speaker 3: both ways. Here's my question for a Jim. Since you

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Speaker 3: have the sport coat over the hoodie, which is an

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Speaker 3: informal formal look, which I kind of dig. I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna lie because I'm jealous. But before you were a

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Speaker 3: TV star in a radio star, what was your job

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Speaker 3: in Major League Baseball?

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Speaker 2: Well, I was a cenior vice president general manager of

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 3: So if you would have gone to a player that

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Speaker 3: you weres on your team and said, I can lock

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Speaker 3: this guy up and take money.

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Speaker 4: From him that he might might earn down the road, would.

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Speaker 3: You be happy with that or would you say, no, no, Roman,

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Speaker 3: don't sign this because I'm the GM and I just

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Speaker 3: watch the best for you.

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Speaker 2: Aj you know the answer. I was so happy.

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Speaker 4: On the table.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I would have liked to have signed Anthony

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Speaker 2: for ninety million instead of one hundred and thirty. And

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Speaker 2: I would have tried everything to do that because that

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Speaker 2: was the hat or the sports jacket I was wearing

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Speaker 2: at the time. Yeah, it's the job. I get it.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, you know, I like what Atlanta

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Speaker 2: did with Acuna on the club side, I didn't like

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Speaker 2: what it does for Acunya. I get it. I mean

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Speaker 2: now I'm in a neutral spot right now. I'll just

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Speaker 2: tell you the way it is. And Anthony left too

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Speaker 2: much money on the table he did. I'm happy for

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Speaker 2: the Red Sox. This was a huge This is the

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Speaker 2: best move Craig Breslo has made since he got the job,

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Speaker 2: to be honest.

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Speaker 1: And the Red Sox in general have been locking up

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Speaker 1: some of their youngsters. I mean, this is the guy

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Speaker 1: that they're most excited about from a prospect perspective, no doubt,

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Speaker 1: and now you're seeing it in the big leagues. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to take a different turn on this one with

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Speaker 1: JB because you're neutral now and you know everything about

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Speaker 1: obviously how these deals get done because you did it

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Speaker 1: for a long period of time. Can you put your

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Speaker 1: agency hat on and tell me what you would say

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Speaker 1: to Roman Anthony to try and prevent him from taking

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Speaker 1: on a deal like this, because the agent's job is

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Speaker 1: to communicate any offer that's on the table, And for

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Speaker 1: the Red Sox they're probably like, okay, Corbyn, Kyle, that

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Speaker 1: was one eleven. We got to blow pass that let's

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Speaker 1: get to one thirty. What's the line where we tell

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Speaker 1: a twenty one year old one hundred and thirty million

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Speaker 1: dollars and he takes it. It's it's tough for a

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Speaker 1: twenty one year old to turn down that kind of money,

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Speaker 1: even if he can make hundreds of millions more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would show him the algorithm and

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Speaker 2: the amount of position star young position players that got

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Speaker 2: injured and career ended, which is a very very small number.

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Speaker 2: The odds are very very thin. And then I would

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Speaker 2: show him how much money he'll make through the salary

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Speaker 2: arbitration process, right, and a contract like this, he's going

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Speaker 2: to be at the top end of the three class,

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Speaker 2: the four class, the five class. But then I would

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Speaker 2: show him what he's giving up right in years seven

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Speaker 2: and eight in this deal, I would show him what

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Speaker 2: Guerrero just signed for. I would show him that Guerrero

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Speaker 2: next year will make forty million and ron Lkun is

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Speaker 2: going to make seventeen. That's just a fact. And they're

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Speaker 2: both equal talent. They should both be paid very similarly,

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Speaker 2: and they're not, so I would I would go through

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Speaker 2: that process, and then I would remind him that, you know,

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Speaker 2: Soto just got seven hundred and sixty five in the

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Speaker 2: open market. And then I would show him that Guerrero

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Speaker 2: got five hundred million on the open market, and I

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Speaker 2: would tell him that you're going to profile better than Guerrero.

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Speaker 2: I can't put you with Sodo yet. I think you

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Speaker 2: have the potential of being Soda or better. But I'll

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Speaker 2: put you between the two. And so I'm gonna show

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Speaker 2: you that sure you're getting one hundred and thirty million,

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Speaker 2: but you're leading at least one hundred million years seven

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Speaker 2: and eight. And if you want to do this, I

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Speaker 2: get it. But what is the risk if you go

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Speaker 2: through the system? Soto turned down four hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: million from the Washington Nationals, turned it down, They traded him. Okay,

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Speaker 2: what did he end up with? So I just think

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Speaker 2: for a position player, in particular, an outfielder, when we

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Speaker 2: look at the last thirty years, the odds of him

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Speaker 2: having an Albert Bell, you know, hip injury the end

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Speaker 2: of career is very small. And you know, I would

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Speaker 2: tell him, hey, let's try to do a six year

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Speaker 2: deal without giving up free agency. I'm more than happy

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Speaker 2: to do that, but let's not give up those free

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Speaker 2: agent years, or if we give them up, we gotta

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Speaker 2: get forty to fifty million a year, because Guerrero's forty

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Speaker 2: is gonna be fifty by the time he gets there, right,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to give that up. I can't, and

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Speaker 2: so that'll be my pitch to him at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day and then we'll see what the Red

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Speaker 2: Sox say. But you know, I really have a problem

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Speaker 2: year seven and eight. I'm not giving it up. If

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Speaker 2: I'm the agent representing a superstar player like Roman Anthony.

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Speaker 2: There's other players I would do it with, but not

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Speaker 2: a player of this stature. FT fan.

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Speaker 3: Last thing on this before you let you go. Does

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Speaker 3: the impending labor strife possibility affect this in anyway? Because

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Speaker 3: the owners keep saying we want a salary cap, right,

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Speaker 3: the players keep saying we're not gonna get a salary

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Speaker 3: cap now. If they're somehow there becomes something in the middle,

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Speaker 3: whether it's a harder cap that what we technically have now, players'

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Speaker 3: earnings might not be unlimited like they were with Sodo

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Speaker 3: and Guerrero. Do you think you look at it from

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Speaker 3: that standpoint and say, well, if this happens, we might

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Speaker 3: not be able to get to five hundred plus million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I definitely don't look at it that way.

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Speaker 2: And I respect the players' union and the people that

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Speaker 2: stop the star players from getting paid. They're not gonna

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Speaker 2: allow what has happened with the draft happened, and I

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Speaker 2: can't imagine with a strong player leadership that's there, I

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Speaker 2: can't imagine them allowing a system. Look, we have a

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Speaker 2: parody issue in this game that has to be fixed.

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Speaker 2: We need the smaller markets to be able to spend

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Speaker 2: more money to be more competitive. I get it, but

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Speaker 2: you can't. The players are not gonna allow. The union

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Speaker 2: is not gonna allow all all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 2: players not make what they deserve and get paid. I mean,

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Speaker 2: than it was seven years ago and ten years ago.

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Speaker 2: They're not even getting their their fifty percent share or

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Speaker 2: more whatever you want to argue they deserve. So I just,

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Speaker 2: you know, again, I don't think it's a factor. Aj,

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Speaker 2: I understand where you're coming from. I just don't have

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Speaker 2: fear of those kind of things. Every time we have

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Speaker 2: a labor you know, disagreement or it's coming up everyone's

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Speaker 2: going to talk about work stoppages. You know, since Rob

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Speaker 2: Manford's been there, there hasn't been any work stoppage. And

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Speaker 2: those of us that lived through ninety four ninety five,

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Speaker 2: we're not doing that again. They're not gonna do it again.

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Speaker 2: They can talk about it. You know. It's just like

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Speaker 2: in the NFL with Micah Parson saying he wants to trade.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want to trade, he wants his contract. He

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Speaker 2: wants to be the highest paid non quarterback in football,

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Speaker 2: and all this dialogue. It happens. The Bryce Harper rob

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Speaker 2: Banford thing. That's just negotiations. We're gonna have a deal

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Speaker 2: that works. Clubs aren't going to get what they want.

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Speaker 2: Players are gonna hopefully work hard to get the minimum

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Speaker 2: up and hopefully work hard to get the smaller markets

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Speaker 2: to be more competitive, and maybe work a little bit

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Speaker 2: harder on revenue sharing. And maybe we we you know,

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Speaker 2: toughen the soft cap a little bit, but not to

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Speaker 2: the extent where it's gonna affect star players from making

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Speaker 2: the money they deserve. My opinion, I got.

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Speaker 6: A question for you. We're not letting you go just yet.

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Speaker 6: You can let your agent hack go off, but have

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Speaker 6: you put your GM hat back on.

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 6: If you're if you're Jed Hoyer, are you dealing with

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Speaker 6: the Nats anymore? Do you just get a sense of

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Speaker 6: this kind of bad faith with the Soroka dealer? What

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Speaker 6: is your take on all this?

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Speaker 2: how could you trade James Wood and Devrees? But what

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Speaker 3: I got so many things off the answer you just

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Speaker 2: the gold Glover why he's struggling like he is. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if they miss out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an avalanche of issues and it's surprising,

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Speaker 1: but here we are, and there are a few teams

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Speaker 1: coming after him. JB. Great stuff. This was a good

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Speaker 1: little catch up post deadline. Appreciate the time and we'll

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts on what Anthony Volpi is going through?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a gold gloves shortstop who has had

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Speaker 1: significant throwing issues that seem mental heat does not seem

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Speaker 1: like he has his confidence defensively.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we've seen him be a fantastic defender,

462
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Speaker 6: so we know it's in there. I think he just

463
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Speaker 6: kind of needs to make up his mind. Hey, I'm

464
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Speaker 6: going to attack everything. I think that takes the kind

465
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Speaker 6: of guesswork out of it. I think when you're you're

466
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Speaker 6: indecisive or indifferent on what to do in the ball

467
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Speaker 6: or how much time to take, just say, hey, listen,

468
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Speaker 6: I'm going to attack every single thing and attack all

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Speaker 6: these throws. So my mind's made up on how I'm

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Speaker 6: going to approach the ball, how I'm going to approach

471
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Speaker 6: his throw. There's no guesswork in it, there's no second guessing,

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Speaker 6: And I think it just kind of simplifies things because

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Speaker 6: I think right now is his wheels are turning a

474
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Speaker 6: little bit too much because it's an AJ can attest

475
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Speaker 6: to this too. Can't play trying not to screw up.

476
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Speaker 6: You have to attack the game. You have to play

477
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Speaker 6: to make the plays. You can't play like when you're

478
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Speaker 6: when you swing to like just not strike out. It's

479
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Speaker 6: not your normal swing, So you're going to strike out.

480
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Speaker 6: When you try not to throw an air, you're gonna like, oh,

481
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Speaker 6: I gotta get it there. You're gonna drop the armslot

482
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Speaker 6: and then here goes to throw into the stand. So

483
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Speaker 6: it's like you just have to attack the game and

484
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Speaker 6: like it'll start to come back to you real fast then,

485
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Speaker 6: I think. But he he just looks like those wheels

486
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Speaker 6: are turning real fast right now.

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Speaker 1: What if Byron Buxton ended up on the New York

488
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Speaker 1: Mets or the Atlanta Braves. I'm not just saying this

489
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Speaker 1: out of the blue. Dan Hayes has done great work.

490
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Speaker 1: I think he's working with Ken Rosenthal behind the scenes

491
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Speaker 1: on this as well, both of them writing for The Athletic.

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Speaker 1: This one from Hayes. Byron Buxton told inquiring teams no,

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Speaker 1: and then he put some other notes in that article

494
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Speaker 1: as well. But let's focus on Byron Buxton a couple

495
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Speaker 1: quotes here to start. So first off, he said, where

496
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Speaker 1: I came from, your word means everything. My track record

497
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Speaker 1: of how I'm still here and how I got here

498
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Speaker 1: is different. You've got to have a lot of people

499
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Speaker 1: behind you, not just the family, but everybody Minnesota did that.

500
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Speaker 1: That's home. He really started his campaign for him staying

501
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Speaker 1: in Minneapolis at the All Star Game. He received a

502
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Speaker 1: number of questions about if he could be on the

503
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Speaker 1: trade block, and he's like, I could not because I

504
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Speaker 1: have a no trade class, and I say no. So

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Speaker 1: they didn't even entertain anything except for the phone calls

506
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Speaker 1: that came through to Byron Buxton's agency. I'm saying the

507
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Speaker 1: Twins didn't entertain anything. Byron bucks agency got a number

508
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Speaker 1: of calls from teams who clearly were interested, and he

509
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Speaker 1: told them the same thing, don't waste your time. He's

510
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Speaker 1: not going to wave the no trade clause. Now here

511
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Speaker 1: comes the social media storm.

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Speaker 2: Kip.

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Speaker 1: You do have fans that say the Twins just sold

514
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Speaker 1: half their team away. They're going to be sold. There

515
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Speaker 1: are some good pieces there, but why does he want

516
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Speaker 1: to stay if he has an opportunity to join a

517
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Speaker 1: contender and not the Braves. The Braves aren't good this year.

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Speaker 1: He's from Georgia. There were some connections there, but some

519
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: other teams were interested as well. There were a number

520
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Speaker 1: of teams that called. But for example, fans are like,

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't Buckston want to join the Mets when they're

522
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Speaker 1: in a playoff race and the Twins are not.

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Speaker 6: I yeah, I can appreciate his loyalty. I can appreciate

524
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Speaker 6: a man of his word. I can appreciate that he

525
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Speaker 6: wants to finish what he started or build there because

526
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Speaker 6: they gave him the chance. All that stuff. That's great stuff,

527
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Speaker 6: and I know the front office appreciates that and loves that.

528
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Speaker 6: But you look around that clubhouse, almost everyone's gone. Your

529
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Speaker 6: team is, your ownership is kind of not gone for

530
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Speaker 6: it when you have had good teams recently, so they

531
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Speaker 6: aren't really about winning as much as you'd like him

532
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Speaker 6: to be. If you just said he's from Georgia. Let's

533
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Speaker 6: say Atlanta was good this year. Every one in your

534
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Speaker 6: starting lineup is pretty much gone. Atlanta is great this year,

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Speaker 6: let's say hypothetically, and they're trying to trade for you

536
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Speaker 6: so you can go home play for a hometown team

537
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Speaker 6: in a playoff race, and you're still gonna hold strong

538
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Speaker 6: of that. No, I don't get it. I guess I'd

539
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Speaker 6: like to think there are circumstances that should happen where

540
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Speaker 6: an answer should change. You would think as a player,

541
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Speaker 6: you would want to experience that experience. The playoff runs,

542
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Speaker 6: the deep playoff runs, because that's what we're all trying

543
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Speaker 6: to do anyways. So I don't know. I appreciate the loyalty,

544
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Speaker 6: but I also don't understand why staying there when they're

545
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 6: rebuilding it makes sense just or that doesn't make sense

546
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Speaker 6: to me, I guess.

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Speaker 3: I mean Jim Boden said it. He has a touch

548
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Speaker 3: to the Twins logo on his back. He's not going anywhere,

549
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 3: and it's his right.

550
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 4: So listen.

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Speaker 3: As much as I don't know if I could be

552
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 3: able to be as strong as Byron Bucks and say

553
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Speaker 3: I'm staying with the Twins, there is something cool about

554
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Speaker 3: being with one team, your whole career in one organization.

555
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: So I can't fault a guy. Listen, he got the

556
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 3: no trade clause and he wants to stick by it.

557
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a Twins fan, you have to

558
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: respect that. If you're a person in general, you have

559
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Speaker 3: to respect that. So could he move on to a

560
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: different place. He could, but he's comfortable. His family's comfortable there.

561
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Speaker 3: He might have a place in Four Myers, he might

562
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Speaker 3: have a place in Minnesota. He goes from four Myers

563
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Speaker 3: to Minnesota, his wife and his kids and his family

564
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 3: is comfortable with that. So I can't fault a guy

565
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Speaker 3: for that. As much as people to say, oh, he

566
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 3: doesn't want to win. Oh he doesn't want this, he

567
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 3: doesn't want that, you know what, it's his choice.

568
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Speaker 4: I'm sure there's people out there.

569
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Speaker 3: In regular world that if that work at a company

570
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Speaker 3: and another company comes and offers him a little bit

571
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Speaker 3: something better, and they're like, you know what, I'm gonna

572
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: stick with the company I'm with because I'm comfortable. And

573
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Speaker 3: I have to give that guy credit, because listen, if

574
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: I could have played for one team my whole career,

575
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 3: would have loved to have done it. But you know what,

576
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: I wasn't that fortunate. If you're fortunate enough to do it,

577
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 3: good for you. Byron Buxton.

578
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: And clearly he likes the way they're treating him too, guys.

579
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: I mean he's happy with you know, the front office

580
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: is usually you know, I mean talked about very highly right,

581
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: Derek Fabian company over there in Minnesota, Thad Levin who

582
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: was there for a while. He was just on our

583
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: show the other day, known as one of the nicer

584
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 1: guys in the sport. So it's not like he's in

585
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: one of those disaster scenarios and we all know they exist.

586
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 6: No, I'm saying I appreciate, I I can appreciate absolutely

587
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 6: everything that he's doing insane. I I do love it,

588
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 6: and he's earned the right to make that decision for himself.

589
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 6: I think he needs to get is it hobby hobby

590
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 6: bias that has the MLB logo tattoo on the back

591
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 6: of his neck? Ye, the way he's covered for any

592
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 6: team that he goes to. So he just gets the

593
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 6: MLB logo.

594
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, unless you end up playing in a different league.

595
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: Right if you're in the Mexican League and NPV and.

596
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 6: Run out, Yeah, run out of ideas.

597
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 4: Did you play with anybody?

598
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 3: Because I played with some guys in the minor leagues

599
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 3: that got that tattoo and I was like, what if you.

600
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 4: Don't make it?

601
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: And they're like, oh Megan, they didn't make it, And

602
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, uh, do you cover that thing with so molts?

603
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 6: He had it before he was up with the big leagues.

604
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 6: But I think he was on his way.

605
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a first rounder. I think he was

606
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 3: gonna be okay. This guy was like not, these guys.

607
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: Are not rounds.

608
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 4: They were not.

609
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 3: There's a guy headed on his arm. There was a

610
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 3: guy who they had on his neck. I was like,

611
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: what if you don't make it?

612
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: It's good motivation because it's like I have to make it.

613
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 6: I have to. Yeah, I got the tacks like the team.

614
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 4: It's like the team is like, oh, he has a tattoo,

615
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 4: we need to send him to the big leagues.

616
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 6: What about this guy he's tatted up with the love

617
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 6: by the.

618
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: Way, these two players, this guy hasn't tack.

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Speaker 4: By the way.

620
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Speaker 3: I just want to say this for the record. So

621
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Speaker 3: Jim Boden told the story of Byron Bucks and Eric

622
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: Milton had New York Yankee logo on his left arm.

623
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Speaker 3: I played with a guy I think his name was

624
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: Greg Hanson. Hanson, I think that was right. And he

625
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: had every he played for like nine teams so down

626
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: his leg. It started with the first team, and so

627
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 3: he had to keep getting the tattoos all the way

628
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: down his legs. So he ended up playing for like

629
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Speaker 3: eight or nine teams, so he.

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Speaker 6: Had them all all the way done his leg.

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Speaker 3: He'll get a tattoo if you're not one hundred percent sure, guys, Okay,

632
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: just saying, especially of a team in baseball, because guess

633
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 3: what they can do.

634
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: They can get rid of your really fastly. You have

635
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Speaker 4: one kip.

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00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 6: No, no, I do not have a team logo. There

637
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 6: you go, Hey, one more questions and they can get

638
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 6: rid of you real fast.

639
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: Right, one more question on this, because there's a guy

640
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: who's really is a legend in our sport, is going

641
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: to be a Hall of Famer, but the back half

642
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: of his career has not played out the way he's

643
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: wanted it to. What do you think about the Mike

644
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 1: Trout example, for Byron Buckston, who's already cracked open his

645
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: early thirties here and you just don't get too many

646
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Speaker 1: cracks at a World Series title. Does any of that

647
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 1: factor in here? Or you just have to have that

648
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: that goal that you want to win with the team

649
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: that you're with and you've got the new trade cause

650
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: you've got to overcome you know what the desire is

651
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: from outside?

652
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: Right.

653
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure Trout's thought about it too. It's been talked

654
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: about sometimes in the offseason. It doesn't sound like he's

655
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: ever pushed the team though, So I wonder if that's

656
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: in Byron's headed off because you just don't know, right,

657
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: I mean, and he's had problems staying on the field.

658
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: It's like, you're thriving this year. There's teams that want you,

659
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: that can tend you want to say no to Atlanta,

660
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: go for it, they're not in the playoffs this year,

661
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: but you want to say no to the three or

662
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: four other teams that were interested.

663
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 6: It's I'm interested to see when It's like a player

664
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Speaker 6: can always tell kind of when they're nearing the end.

665
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 6: So if when the two of them maybe have like

666
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 6: two years left, three years left, maybe uh, and then

667
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 6: there's just no light at the end of the tunnel

668
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 6: for the organization, I'm wondering if you'll start to see

669
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Speaker 6: maybe he starts more a trout, just to give it

670
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Speaker 6: a give it a chance.

671
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, But also, like Aj.

672
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Speaker 6: Said that you're you're at you're on the you're at

673
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 6: the home finish of playing your whole career for one team,

674
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 6: which is really cool.

675
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just the ring desire, right, I mean, everybody

676
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: wants every Scott.

677
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: Not everybody wins a ring. Kip didn't win a ring.

678
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: I was fortunate enough to win one, right, not everybody

679
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 3: wins one. But listen, Joe Mallard didn't win one. He's

680
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame because he stayed with one

681
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: team his whole career, right, I.

682
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 4: Mean, it's kind of cool. Right to know this, Mike

683
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 4: Trout's probably gonna stay with the Angels entire career. Pretty cool.

684
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: Basic Matt though, is that if you're on a non

685
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: contender right now and they sold out their team away

686
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: and then they're going through an ownership change and they

687
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: might be good eventually, right Like, he's got a shot

688
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 1: at winning with this new group, But percentage chance, I mean,

689
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: you've got a better chance joining a contender now and

690
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: rolling that way. It's just it is what it is.

691
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: But it's the choice that he made. That's all just

692
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: presenting both sides. I actually kind of been in the

693
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: middle on this one because I would be more critical

694
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: if I felt like the player was on like an

695
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: absolute disaster scenario team and he only had a couple

696
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: of years left. Fyron Buxton should have, you know, hopefully

697
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: five or six years left in his career, and the

698
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: Twins will definitely be able to bounce back from where

699
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: they are. They were in the playoffs two years ago

700
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: and they're going to have a new owners, So I'm

701
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Speaker 1: okay with it. Davey Andrews joining us right now from

702
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: Fangrafts for the first time on FT. Daved, great to

703
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: have you on the show here and perfect timing because

704
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: past the trade deadline and now people want to know

705
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: playoff percentage chances for their ball club. So how you doing.

706
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 7: I'm good, Thank you for having me. It's fun to

707
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 7: be on. I see you guys background and I do

708
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 7: not have the same house as major leaguers as what

709
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 7: I'm doing.

710
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: Well, I don't either. I'm in a little apartment. But

711
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: you can fake it till you make it all day. Okay, Davey,

712
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: tell me about playoff percentages that you wrote about in fangrafts,

713
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: how they vary, what goes into them, and what has

714
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Speaker 1: stood out to you at the recent look at who

715
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: could you know, crack the playoffs that could surprise us

716
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: or who could miss out that could surprise us?

717
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 7: Right, Well, so I would start first, which is how

718
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 7: they work. I mean, the biggest thing is they take

719
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 7: your record, and then they look at your strength of

720
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 7: schedule for the rest of the season, and then they

721
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 7: look at your projections. So we're talking about how good

722
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 7: the projections think your team is, and so based on

723
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 7: all of that, they spit out a number the percentage

724
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 7: chance that you make the playoffs. So like the Dodgers

725
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 7: are at the top with ninety nine point six percent

726
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 7: chance because they're in first Iceland, because they're the Dodgers

727
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 7: with a really good team, and then there are plenty

728
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 7: of teams at the bottom with zero. So the reason

729
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 7: I wrote about it yesterday is that I was looking

730
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 7: at the numbers and I realized that this is kind

731
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 7: of the most stratified that the numbers have been in

732
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 7: a long time. Like in the National League, the Reds

733
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 7: have a thirteen point six percent chance of making the playoffs,

734
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 7: and then above them today is the Mets at eighty

735
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 7: nine point one percent, So they basically the numbers think

736
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 7: the National League is one hundred percent settled right now.

737
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 7: Obviously I'm doing some rounding here, but but I was

738
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 7: looking at it. I was like, Man, the numbers say

739
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 7: this is the most boring postseasons or stretch run since

740
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 7: we started keeping track of them.

741
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy. So I will bring up what some

742
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: will say, including Reds fans, remember last year the Detroit Tigers,

743
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: what was their percentage chance of making the playoffs at

744
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: this point.

745
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 7: Zero point two percent? And you can buy a T

746
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 7: shirt with the Fangrafts graph that goes down, down, down,

747
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 7: down down, all the way up at the very end.

748
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 7: And you could also look at the twenty nineteen Indians

749
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 7: Guardians to bring it close to home here, I'm sorry

750
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 7: that who a week from this point in the season,

751
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 7: we're at ninety six percent above ninety six percent and

752
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 7: didn't make it. So it happens all the time, you know.

753
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 7: I think when when you hear a number like this

754
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 7: and you hear it's like a ninety percent chance, you think, well,

755
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 7: that means it's a done deal. But what it means

756
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 7: is one out of ten times the opposite thing is

757
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 7: going to happen.

758
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa? Was Kip on that team? Kip? Were

759
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 4: you on that twenty nineteen choke job team?

760
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 6: What I thought we did make the playoffs?

761
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 7: All right, Well then I feel less bad bringing it up.

762
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well that's amazing.

763
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: Well so then this is just a percent like everything

764
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 3: has to go right or wrong for a team to

765
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 3: make the playoffs.

766
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 4: Because if you.

767
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: Look at it right now, the Brewers are what ninety

768
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 3: nine point one percent, They have a nice small lead

769
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 3: on the Cubs. The Cubs are ninety six percent. But

770
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 3: like kind of what Scott said, the Reds team is

771
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: looking at like, hey, we're hot right now, We're playing

772
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 3: really well. We made some nice acquisitions. This is more

773
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: like if something crazy doesn't happen, right, this is just

774
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: more of like textbook things just continue as they've gone

775
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 3: for the first four and a half months.

776
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 7: Right, So you can in my article, I kind of

777
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 7: broke down the pros and the cons for the Reds

778
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 7: and like you're saying, there's a lot of pros here,

779
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 7: like they're gonna get Hunter green back, and they've got

780
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 7: Ellie day La Cruz who looks like he can just

781
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 7: carry a team, and if the additions they made at

782
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 7: the deadline work out, if Cabrian Hayes looks out at

783
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 7: the short fence in the Cincinnati and things, oh maybe

784
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 7: I should start lifting the ball a little to hit

785
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 7: it over like all of a sudden they're going to

786
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 7: start rolling. And they could absolutely do it. But they

787
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 7: also have I think the second toughest schedule the rest

788
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 7: of the way, and they've had an easy schedule to

789
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 7: this point. So some of the numbers that you're looking

790
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 7: at may be a little rosier than the real picture says,

791
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 7: and just the projections, like I mean, like what the

792
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 7: Phillies and did a lot, and the Padres a lot,

793
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 7: and so all of a sudden, these other teams added

794
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 7: to and added more, and so it's just it's a

795
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 7: tough road. So it's they're trying to factor in everything.

796
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 7: Obviously baseball is going to baseball. There's no way to

797
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 7: predict everything. But this year did stand out just because

798
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 7: the numbers are so stratified.

799
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 4: Davy, who's your team?

800
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm a national skuy first and foremost, so

801
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 7: they've been at zero for a long time.

802
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 3: Now that's fine. I mean, I'm a white sex guy.

803
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: They were at zero before the year started, so I

804
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: get it.

805
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 4: I get it.

806
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: But they did win a World Series in twenty nineteen.

807
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 3: My question is the Yankees. Where were the Yankees at

808
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 3: six weeks ago? And now were they at? Because the

809
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: American League has kind of shifted, right, the Yankees were

810
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 3: dominating and were like, oh, Yankees are close to ninety

811
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: percent whatever they were, and now what's their number compared

812
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: to with like the Mariners, the Rangers, all these teams

813
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 3: that have kind of jumped in front of them.

814
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 7: Right, I would say the Yankees are one of those

815
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 7: teams who have seemed to defy gravity. Right now, they're

816
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 7: at seventy eight point eight, which is is down a

817
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 7: little bit. You know, they have been really struggling. But

818
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 7: the numbers, the projections, are a big part of this,

819
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 7: where they're looking at individual players and expecting them to contribute.

820
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 7: And so if Aaron Judge comes back healthy, then all

821
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 7: of a sudden that lineup is terrifying. If he doesn't,

822
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 7: the projections can't really tell you that. So if Aaron

823
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 7: Judge isn't there and hitting like Aaron Judge, then like,

824
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 7: throw this number in the garbage. Basically, you know, all

825
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 7: of this stuff depends on health and luck and short

826
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 7: sample sizes, all things that can go either way at

827
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 7: the drop of a hat. So so far, the numbers

828
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 7: have really liked the Yankees. But when we're watching it

829
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 7: with our eyes, it looks a lot scarier.

830
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: So let's transition over to the al What are you

831
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: seeing from the playoff projection numbers there?

832
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 7: Well, so, I mean the Tigers still are in first.

833
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 7: The Tigers look genuinely scary, and you know, I think

834
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 7: once you get into the playoffs they look even more scary.

835
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 7: You know, with the way they rolled in the postseason

836
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 7: last year where just Scoogle was unhittable, and they kind

837
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 7: of scraped enough together. They're bullpen isn't looking quite as good,

838
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 7: but I mean they're at ninety eight percent right now.

839
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 7: They've pretty much got the central locked up, and then

840
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 7: below them, it's a little bit of a mix. You know,

841
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 7: the Ale East is going to be a real battle

842
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 7: regardless of who ends up making the playoffs and doesn't.

843
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 7: I think the Al East will be really fun. The

844
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 7: Red Sox are on a run right now, the Blue

845
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 7: Jays have been on a run, and the Yankees have

846
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 7: the pieces where if they all put it together, those

847
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 7: could be three really good teams down the stretch and

848
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 7: it should be really fun.

849
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: Cap. We got to ask about your boys, because no

850
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: one's talking about them, but they're actually only, what is it,

851
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: a game and a half away from a playoff spot

852
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know if the projections love them, but.

853
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: To present, it never loves them.

854
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 6: It never loves them because it's not like there's never

855
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 6: been an besides Jose, there's never been huge home run

856
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 6: hitters that can really like switch it that the statistical side,

857
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,959
Speaker 6: the analytical side loves to like kind of go off that.

858
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 7: And we shouldn't know that the projections tend to regress

859
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 7: heavily on defense, which means when you're a good defensive club,

860
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 7: they don't trust you as much because they sort of

861
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 7: expect defense to balance out, and so for a team

862
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 7: like the Guardians who have some premium defenders like that

863
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 7: is a reason to look at the numbers with a

864
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 7: little more suspicion and a little more hope.

865
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 6: I appreciate you saying a nice thing about the Guardians there.

866
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 7: I love the Guardians. I'd end up writing about them

867
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 7: all the time just because they always have fun people.

868
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 6: I think. I'm trying to think of aj would you

869
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 6: actually you might be the wrong person answer as this question,

870
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 6: but because okay, because I already know your answer, I think,

871
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 6: would you ever look at something like this and give

872
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 6: it any stock and if you were a player playing?

873
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 4: No? Absolutely not.

874
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: Actually no, actually that's all right, because I would be like, oh,

875
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: we're only projected to win seventy two games through them.

876
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try and win one hundred games and be like, yeah,

877
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: fan Grafts, you don't know what you're talking about.

878
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 6: Fair enough. I like it, though, No every play like, okay, well,

879
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 6: good thing, it's settled in between the White Lions like,

880
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 6: it's fine, we got this then, So I think that's

881
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 6: you're right, that's the best way to use it. Pen

882
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 6: if it's not telling you already end.

883
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: We've heard it brought up as bulletin board material before, Davy.

884
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know and can talk about it.

885
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 7: More, especially from the Guardians for this very reason that

886
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 7: you know, like they've had a lot of premium defenders

887
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 7: in the past and so the numbers have not trusted

888
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 7: them and they've just gone on some really fun and

889
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 7: probable runs. So yeah, I mean, I think if you're

890
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 7: a player, I can't imagine looking at this for anything

891
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 7: other than, you know, bulletin board material.

892
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

893
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 6: I don't know if you're talking about me with premium

894
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 6: defenders in the past. Maybe my other guys in the infield,

895
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 6: I thought, But you.

896
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 7: Have the pop, the projections love pop.

897
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: Thank you.

898
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 6: Yeah.

899
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: Andre Samenez had the glove there recently for Cleveland. Yeah,

900
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: he was. He was probably the best defensive second basement

901
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: for a year or two there. My question to you,

902
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: Davy is where do you think it's wrong?

903
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 5: Right?

904
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: Where are you looking where either other numbers that you

905
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: like tell you you otherwise, or just the eye test

906
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: tells you otherwise, And I'll stay on American League because,

907
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: like you said, I'm with you. It's gonna be hard

908
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: to convince anyone that there's a better top six. And

909
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: they've got like this real clean cut top six in

910
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: the National League, but it's not quite the case.

911
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 4: In the AL.

912
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: So how do you see the AL playing out these

913
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: next couple months?

914
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 4: Right?

915
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 7: I mean the big thing is is the Rangers, Like

916
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 7: right now, they're at forty percent, and so that's a

917
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 7: decent chance, but they'd have to be thrown either, you know,

918
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 7: like the Mariners, Astros, the Red Sox, the Yankees. You know,

919
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 7: there are a lot of teams in the mix here,

920
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 7: and I think the Rangers just look really dangerous right now.

921
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 7: They have so many hitters who could get into shape,

922
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 7: and so many pitchers who could really put together dominant

923
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 7: stretches like you saw Ivaldi last night, just completely shoving.

924
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 7: I think the Rangers could really not only like close strong,

925
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 7: but like look like a team that nobody wants to face.

926
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: Would you want to face Evaldi and de Grom in

927
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 3: the postseason if you had to go one two in

928
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 3: a short series, in a three game series in your

929
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: first two starters, you get de Grom and Evaldi that

930
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: it sounds like it wouldn't be a lot of fun. David,

931
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: I know you're a nats man, so you get the

932
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: Strasbourg Ureser comparisons.

933
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 7: There, right, absolutely? Yeah, I mean I don't think anybody

934
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 7: wants to face the gram ever.

935
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, true, especially when he's healthy. All right, So I

936
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: have two quick questions for you. When was the last

937
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: time the Braves were zero percent? Our producer lady at Claudia,

938
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: she's like she's a huge Braves homer, so she's like

939
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: crying about the Braves. So when was the last time

940
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 3: the Braves were zero percent?

941
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I'd have to look it up. I mean,

942
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 7: it's this is such a weird year and and even now,

943
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 7: like you look at that team and I mean, obviously

944
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 7: it's different with the Kuna Goan, but it has been

945
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 7: a while. I would guess it's been five or six years.

946
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 4: Okay, since I was there in twenty sixteen.

947
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: I get it.

948
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 6: It's what I was looking because thanks for.

949
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 4: Rubbing it in. I appreciate it, Thank you, love it.

950
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 7: I did before I came on at the years you

951
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 7: were there and.

952
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 4: That, Yeah, I was looking there were zero.

953
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: They were zero from the time we took the field

954
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 3: and spring training, So I get it. No, no big deal.

955
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: The gnats were good then, So I'm all right. So

956
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: before we let you go, I have to ask you this.

957
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: You have your soundboard up there, looks like on your door.

958
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 3: I know you played guitar, right, you play guitar and

959
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 3: some bands. M what's what's cooler playing guitar in front

960
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: of a live crowd or writing an article like just

961
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: did a million people look at and read and trust

962
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: that your numbers are correct?

963
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: Well?

964
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 7: I think playing I don't know. I'm dell with playing guitar.

965
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 7: Here's why, because I didn't come up with these numbers.

966
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: I am not.

967
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 7: There are a lot of smart people at Fangrafts, and

968
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 7: I am not part of that club. I can put

969
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 7: the words down, but as far as the math behind

970
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 7: and behind them and explaining all of it, they're much

971
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 7: smarter people than I am. So I gotta go with

972
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 7: the guitar.

973
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: Like he did his homework.

974
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 4: This was his chance to pump his bands, and he

975
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 4: didn't do it.

976
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 7: So you guys, you guys have had Petriello on we

977
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,479
Speaker 7: play in a band together, So.

978
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: Oh no way, I didn't know that the band. That's

979
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: really cool. Okay, what's the band name?

980
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 7: Where the Subway goes? We got a show next week,

981
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 7: so if anybody is, you know, around in New York,

982
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:06,479
Speaker 7: check us out.

983
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: Okay, well yeah, look them up. Subway Ghost. I love that.

984
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: Davey is a is a multi whatever you want to

985
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: call multi entertainment threat, dual threat. Very cool, baby, this

986
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: was awesome. Thank you for joining us. Really appreciate the

987
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: look into those playoff projections, as many people will look

988
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: at them like these guys do and use it as

989
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: bulletin board material whatever else. So we appreciate the entertainment

990
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: and the info from fangrafts all the.

991
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 7: Time, my pleasure. They are there for people to shout about.

992
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly right. Criticism welcome, bring it, bring it, Davy,

993
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Appreciate it again.

994
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 7: All right, thanks, have a good one, guys,