WEBVTT - Dancing with...Jenna Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks, Welcome to Danielle with the Stars. I am Danielle Fischl,

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<v Speaker 1>a TV director, a podcaster forever Topanga, and a mom

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<v Speaker 1>of two. Currently, though I am becoming a ballroom dancer,

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<v Speaker 1>one painful step at a time. You can see me

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<v Speaker 1>on the new season of Dancing with the Stars, airing

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<v Speaker 1>every Tuesday on ABC and Disney Plus, and throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>entire process, I am recording this podcast chronicling the journey,

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<v Speaker 1>giving you the inside story of just one celebrities quest

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<v Speaker 1>for the Mirror Ball Trophy. And this week I am

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<v Speaker 1>lucky to be chatting with one of the many professionals

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<v Speaker 1>who helped revolutionize the art form, helping an old fashioned

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<v Speaker 1>style of dance somehow become one of pop culture's most

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<v Speaker 1>relevant TV shows. She's not only a two time Mirror

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<v Speaker 1>Ball champion, winning first with Adam Ripon in twenty eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>for season twenty six, and then again just last year

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<v Speaker 1>with Joey Gratzia Day, She's also an Emmy nominee, alongside

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<v Speaker 1>her husband, fellow Dancing with the Stars pro val Schermakovsky,

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<v Speaker 1>in the field of Outstanding Choreography for Variety or Reality Programming.

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<v Speaker 1>In short, she is the real deal. If during this

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<v Speaker 1>interview I can have even a small amount of her

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<v Speaker 1>talent rub off on me, I will be better for it.

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<v Speaker 1>My guest this week on Danielle with the Stars is

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<v Speaker 1>Jenna Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow that intro I'm not deserving. Oh that was incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Say you're like Sheermakovsky? Do I say that right? How

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<v Speaker 2>do you say? Schmerkovski? Sure, schmir Schumer. That's get That's

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<v Speaker 2>what gets people. Schmerkovski, Schmurkovski. Yeah, it's Amerkovsky. Okay. I

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<v Speaker 2>went from a Johnson to a Schmerkovsky real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that must have been a hard adjustment. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>it was, but so okay, good. I like to hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want everyone to know that we are talking

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<v Speaker 1>just a few days before the season thirty four premiere. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and even if I tried, I would I would never

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<v Speaker 1>be able to explain the amount of excitement that is

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<v Speaker 1>bouncing around my entire body.

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<v Speaker 2>This will mark.

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<v Speaker 1>Your ninth season on Dancing with the Stars. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>jaded at this point or do you still feel.

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<v Speaker 2>The excitement of the unknown? Oh? Man, I still get

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<v Speaker 2>butterflies every single time, especially before the premiere, because you

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<v Speaker 2>have to realize that technically it's only like three and

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<v Speaker 2>a half months out of the year, and we wait

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<v Speaker 2>that nine months to be back on air, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's all of the pro's dream project or job. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so there is nothing like that first show, especially and

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<v Speaker 2>you're with somebody new, like, yeah, you're seeing how they

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<v Speaker 2>react live the first time. It's all a new experience.

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<v Speaker 2>So I definitely have that excitement still. It never never

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<v Speaker 2>gets old.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's good to hear. Yes, you started as a

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<v Speaker 1>member of the Troop. Yeah, how did you find yourself

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<v Speaker 1>on the show's radar as a dancer to begin with?

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<v Speaker 2>So, I was on a show called So you Think

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<v Speaker 2>you Can Dance? Uh huh, And we actually filmed at

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<v Speaker 2>CBS across the hall, and so I think I was

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<v Speaker 2>just scouted out from there, like the producers had seen

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<v Speaker 2>my journey. Yeah I coached you. Yeah, I represented ballroom

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<v Speaker 2>on that show, and it was a really smooth transition.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so grateful and so lucky because I know that

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't happen a lot of the time. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>initially how I was found, and then yeah, I joined

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<v Speaker 2>the Troope. I was on the Troop for I think

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<v Speaker 2>like seven seasons. But at the time we were doing

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<v Speaker 2>two seasons a year. Oh right, I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>like three and a half years I was on the

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<v Speaker 2>troop and then I got myself a partner and here

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<v Speaker 2>we are. That is so incredible. When you're on the troop, is.

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<v Speaker 1>It difficult watching and seeing the pros competing?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you critiquing everything? Wishing you could jump in? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>It's so interesting And I'm actually I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in this full circle moment right now because my niece

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<v Speaker 2>actually is joining the Troop first time. Yes, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>been so fun to like see her get introduced to

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<v Speaker 2>this troop experience. And I think at the time I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, when I joined the show, I was so

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<v Speaker 2>desperate to be a pro. I wanted that shot. But

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<v Speaker 2>looking back, at the time I joined the show, we

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<v Speaker 2>had Derek still as a pro, Mark was a pro, Karna,

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Wow, Cheryl Kim Johnson like they were still competing Max.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was like the og crew. So I and

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<v Speaker 2>they would all like either ask me to help prep

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<v Speaker 2>a routine with them or I would be in their dances.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I saw how they orchestrated their rehearsal Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like it was the best research that

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<v Speaker 2>I could have ever done. I got to learn from

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<v Speaker 2>the pros themselves how to do this and who was

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<v Speaker 2>successful with it, who wasn't necessarily, So I'm so grateful

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<v Speaker 2>for my time on Troop. I think it really helped

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<v Speaker 2>me become the teacher that I am, the partner that

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<v Speaker 2>I am, And so I'm I'm excited for my niece

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<v Speaker 2>to have this similar experience and I'm just like, absorb everything,

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<v Speaker 2>learn from everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to meet the Troop yesterday. They were actually

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<v Speaker 1>were Oh my gosh, there is just the cutest, sweetest.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, Pasha pulled the Troop in

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<v Speaker 1>to watch us dance because, as you mentioned, the pros

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea what people are going to do when

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<v Speaker 1>they get out in front of a crowd. You're just

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<v Speaker 1>doing your dance, you know, for two people, you and

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<v Speaker 1>the dance are the entire week. So he brought Troop

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<v Speaker 1>in and told them to be vocal.

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<v Speaker 2>You had a little audience.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a little audience, and let me tell you, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>I came alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It was great. I was so excited. I was

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<v Speaker 2>great because usually it does the reverse and people panic

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<v Speaker 2>and everything goes out the window. So that's great. It

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<v Speaker 2>was really great. So she helped me yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I also, I think they were very excited because I

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<v Speaker 1>met them and then immediately I had just that morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know I was going to meet Troop yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>and that morning I thought, I want to do Troop

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<v Speaker 1>on the Stoop.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen that on TikTok no Coop on a Stoop? No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a dad.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a son named Cooper, and every morning he

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<v Speaker 1>takes his son out and he talks about whether the stoop,

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<v Speaker 1>the little curb is dry or if it's wet. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>he has snacks and then he like records him sitting

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<v Speaker 1>down on the stoop.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, we're going to do Troop on a Stoop.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. Thank you. I'm here for the series.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tuning in.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I also want to talk to you about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you have another family member joining the show,

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<v Speaker 1>your niece, Haley Bills. She's already a fan favorite. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this just an absolute dream come true for you?

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<v Speaker 2>An absolute dream come true? I yeah, it's very surreal

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<v Speaker 2>because I think too, for so long I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>any family out here or in the business, and I

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<v Speaker 2>felt so lost and confused on how to navigate. And thankfully,

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<v Speaker 2>like the Tchmerkovsky family adopted me and took me under

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<v Speaker 2>their wing and gave me a bunch of tools to

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<v Speaker 2>learn how to navigate. And I know that this has

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<v Speaker 2>been Hailey's dream for so long, and this was a

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<v Speaker 2>really hard year for her deciding what to do with

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<v Speaker 2>her life. She was in college last year she made

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<v Speaker 2>the and she had another college that really wanted her

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<v Speaker 2>to join their dance team. And she made the decision

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<v Speaker 2>without knowing if she was going to be on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>to go for her Yeah, move to LA and go

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<v Speaker 2>for her dream. And if it didn't happen, that's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>She's going to try like the auditioning, the whole La

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<v Speaker 2>dance experience, but this was ultimately her goal. And so

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<v Speaker 2>it was really special and I actually cannot wait to

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<v Speaker 2>release the video. But when I got picked up as

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<v Speaker 2>a pro, because we get picked up every year, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we're waiting and crossing our fingers. And so Dina Katz

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<v Speaker 2>called me and I'm like, oh, so grateful, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>so excited to be back. And she was like, and

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, do you have Haley's number? And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like immediately start sobbing. VAL's like taking a video

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<v Speaker 2>of me. I'm soalming him. My godh gosh. And so

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, do you want to be on the call,

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<v Speaker 2>And so she let me call Haley and she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>don't say anything, just be like, hey, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>transfer you to Dina. And so me, Val, Haley and

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<v Speaker 2>Dina were on this call, and Haley was like sobbing

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<v Speaker 2>and so unexpected because again she like they didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>her number, she hadn't heard anything from the show. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like such a beautiful moment. And I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot wait to see her shine. I think that she

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<v Speaker 2>is She's the next star. I really do. Like she's

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<v Speaker 2>coming from my job and I'm like, let's get it, girls,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get it. But I can't wait to be there

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<v Speaker 2>for her, yeah, and help like guide her through this

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<v Speaker 2>crazy industry and all that it has to offer. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be really special to share the stage. Like

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<v Speaker 2>we have rehearsal coming up together, and I'm like to

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<v Speaker 2>be in rehearsal with my niece and my husband and

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<v Speaker 2>like my best friends, Like what is life so great?

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the reason one of the things I

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<v Speaker 1>love most about directing is that I get to work

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of kids directing Disney Channel shows, and

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<v Speaker 1>it feels very much like giving back to a young

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<v Speaker 1>version of myself. And for you, it's you getting being

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<v Speaker 1>there for Haley is going to feel like the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of care and that you would have needed as well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's wild because she is the exact age that I

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<v Speaker 2>was when I joined the show. So it does feel

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<v Speaker 2>very surreal. Yeah, so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you make it. You make the transition from

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<v Speaker 1>Troop to Pro for season twenty three. In twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>with partner actor Jake T. Austin, you mentioned that Troop

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<v Speaker 1>was like the best schooling you could ever have.

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<v Speaker 2>But what happens you get a partner? Now? Is there

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<v Speaker 2>like a pamphlet there? How do you know what to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Good question? No, I was so fresh, newbie. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have much experience, and I think I I was so stressed,

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<v Speaker 2>and I could tell that like we were the young

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<v Speaker 2>ones of the crew, you know, he was like a

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<v Speaker 2>Disney kid. We were so so young. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I was equipped with all the knowledge that I

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<v Speaker 2>needed to be the best partner. And I think something

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<v Speaker 2>too that I've learned with all my ears on the

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<v Speaker 2>show it is not about me at all, and it's hard.

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<v Speaker 2>When you are a professional dancer and you take your

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<v Speaker 2>craft very seriously. This is not a moment for you

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<v Speaker 2>to show off. This is a moment for your star

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<v Speaker 2>to shine. And so I think even like choreographically, I

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<v Speaker 2>was highlighting myself and limiting how he looked, if that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially no offense to the male pros, of course, because

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<v Speaker 1>they're often doing spectacular things themselves, but like, as a

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<v Speaker 1>female dancer, it's so often about you showing off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they're supposed to highlight us, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the technical job of the male is to be

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<v Speaker 1>the frame.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I think I had That was a great

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<v Speaker 2>first season for me. But then I had to learn, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to maybe not hold back, but I need

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<v Speaker 2>to be more strategic with my choreography. I need to

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<v Speaker 2>highlight my partner, make sure that they look the best,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will compliment.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, so I mean being just thrown into it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the best education you could go.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you placed.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirteenth that year. You were the first couple eliminated. Were

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<v Speaker 1>you super hard on yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>And what did you do.

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<v Speaker 1>The next year to make sure you didn't repeat that

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<v Speaker 1>same mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was it was hard. It was a learning experience,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was I'm all about timing and there's always

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<v Speaker 2>a meaning to everything. So I was eliminated. First, I

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<v Speaker 2>was super down because I felt like I had of

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<v Speaker 2>like defeated my role that I had just been promoted to.

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<v Speaker 2>But that season, there was an incredible celebrity on the

0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:12.120
<v Speaker 2>show named James Hinchcliffe. Yeah, and his partner Sharna actually

0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.360
<v Speaker 2>got injured. She got really really injured. And so for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple weeks, I think it was like two weeks,

0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I was rehearsing with him and I actually got to

0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.480
<v Speaker 2>perform with him, and we did this piece, this like

0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:27.880
<v Speaker 2>suicide squad dance, this Fox Shaw and it just like

0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.840
<v Speaker 2>blew up. I felt like I had more understanding. I

0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.760
<v Speaker 2>also had like Sharna's guidance in the room and how

0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:38.160
<v Speaker 2>to handle myself. But it like blew up the dance,

0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.240
<v Speaker 2>and I felt like it gave me the confidence that

0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I needed to be right, Okay, I've got this, right,

0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I just need a bit more understanding, but like I've

0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:50.080
<v Speaker 2>got this. So that was an incredible experience. For me

0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.880
<v Speaker 2>to have that same season, yes, and then yeah, the

0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.280
<v Speaker 2>next season, I was given this just like Diamonds of

0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Adam Ribon, and I felt like I had the confidence

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<v Speaker 2>and like, okay, the challenge. I accepted the challenge. I

0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:06.440
<v Speaker 2>was ready.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so great how quickly you were able, Like truly,

0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.920
<v Speaker 1>just within weeks you were like, I've already learned a lesson.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and I'm going to put it into play just

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<v Speaker 1>weeks later. Thankfully you didn't have to wait the entire season,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Wow, Okay, so yes, you get for athletes season,

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<v Speaker 1>you get Adam Rippon. When did you realize, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have a chance of winning this thing?

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It's funny, Well, I knew that he was talented,

0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:37.000
<v Speaker 2>like obviously he was this gorgeous skater, so he had artistry.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think I knew that we had a shot

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<v Speaker 2>when I understood our chemistry was so so connected. Very

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<v Speaker 2>early on in the rehearsal space. We just got along

0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:54.200
<v Speaker 2>so well. We had great banter. We loved each other. Yeah,

0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:58.360
<v Speaker 2>we really loved spending time together. And that is as

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<v Speaker 2>big as part of the process as much as this dance.

0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.680
<v Speaker 2>The dancing is totally right like totally. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>trust your person. Yeah, you have to feel safe and

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerable in their arms. And so I think that, like

0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I started to be like, oh, I think we have

0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.400
<v Speaker 2>great chemistry. I think this can translate on the dance floor.

0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.400
<v Speaker 2>He obviously is an Olympian. He was so hard working

0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.840
<v Speaker 2>and I was so motivated to make this happen for him.

0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Well you did. You did make it happen to him.

0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Your hard work paid off because you won the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>having gone from first to be eliminated, I know, to

0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.040
<v Speaker 1>winning the mirror Ball.

0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.920
<v Speaker 2>It's one of my favorite stories. It's so incredible. I

0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.680
<v Speaker 2>actually told that to Ezra last year. You know, he

0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:43.480
<v Speaker 2>was promoted to a pro from Troop and he was

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<v Speaker 2>eliminated first last year and I was just like Ezra,

0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:49.520
<v Speaker 2>I was eliminated first, and then I won the next season.

0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.560
<v Speaker 1>So you just never know exactly exactly that whatever happens

0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.160
<v Speaker 1>that first year is not any sort of telling of

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<v Speaker 1>what's to come in the future. What are some of

0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.800
<v Speaker 1>the collect attributes you think you and Adam had as

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<v Speaker 1>a team that made you into champs.

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<v Speaker 2>I think trust okay was huge. I think being able

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<v Speaker 2>to like tune everything out on the dance floor and

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<v Speaker 2>just be so present with one another was our superpower, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and you will feel that, like, I'm very excited for

0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.720
<v Speaker 2>you to have your first camera blocking because a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the times I'm just gonna prep you. Yeah, the

0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:30.360
<v Speaker 2>first run is just an absolute mess. Okay, it is,

0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.600
<v Speaker 2>and it's fine. You get three gos usually, Yeah, the

0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.600
<v Speaker 2>first one is a disaster. There's things happening, there's cameras out,

0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:41.400
<v Speaker 2>the lights. You're just like new space. And then Pasha's

0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna grab your hands and like, yeah, call me down

0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:48.000
<v Speaker 2>me just just focus on me, nothing else, no other distractions,

0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.000
<v Speaker 2>and then you'll like find your footing. And so Adam

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<v Speaker 2>and I had that like great connection where we just

0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.240
<v Speaker 2>found each other into everything out. So I think that

0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:01.040
<v Speaker 2>was great. I think that our chemistry, we just we

0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.760
<v Speaker 2>had so much fun. We laughed. I think a majority

0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.440
<v Speaker 2>of our rehearsals like we got work done, but it

0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:11.760
<v Speaker 2>was so much fun good And I think that was

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<v Speaker 2>also the first time that I was like, oh, I

0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.800
<v Speaker 2>can enjoy this while we work hard. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>not losing that joy also sparks creativity, inspiration, you know,

0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:27.760
<v Speaker 2>moments magic. But also he is a huge reason why

0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:32.040
<v Speaker 2>we won. He is such a hard worker. He was

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<v Speaker 2>determined to become a ballroom dancer. I think people love

0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:39.200
<v Speaker 2>that journey of like I'm entering this so I can

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<v Speaker 2>learn how to be a ballroom dancer. Like no ego involved.

0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.840
<v Speaker 2>He was down to take criticism, critiques from the judges,

0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:50.400
<v Speaker 2>and then he was just hysterical live Like his banter

0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:54.200
<v Speaker 2>with the host was so funny, so funny.

0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.720
<v Speaker 1>That goes such a long way with forming a connection

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<v Speaker 1>with the audience too.

0:16:57.880 --> 0:16:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Personality. I wanted to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>About season twenty nine with Catfish's Neve Schulman. You place

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<v Speaker 1>second so close down to the finale? Would you rather

0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:10.240
<v Speaker 1>just come in eighth?

0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Like? Is there any I feel like I would have

0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:16.359
<v Speaker 2>a heart attack. I'm telling you, Second is torture is

0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:19.680
<v Speaker 2>the worst. It's torture. I mean, it's such an accomplishment,

0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.960
<v Speaker 2>but you like sitting there the mirror balls in between

0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:25.199
<v Speaker 2>two couples and you're just like so close, and then

0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.720
<v Speaker 2>they don't even like announce your name, right, You're just

0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.239
<v Speaker 2>like the winners, you know, and you're just like so

0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:34.920
<v Speaker 2>happy for the other couple, but just dying inside. I'm

0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.760
<v Speaker 2>so like crumbling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, well then you have another second place for

0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a legendary season with Jojo Seewak. You were the first

0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:51.320
<v Speaker 1>same sex coupling in the show's history. Yeah, what adjustments

0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.080
<v Speaker 1>do you have to make when prepping for that?

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<v Speaker 2>So many? Yeah, because again, this was the first time

0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.520
<v Speaker 2>that the show is it, and so I didn't have

0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:05.840
<v Speaker 2>any reference point, and they were so awesome about being like,

0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:09.520
<v Speaker 2>you really can just figure this out right, whatever you

0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.800
<v Speaker 2>make the blueprint, Yeah, kind of, And I wanted to

0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.679
<v Speaker 2>respect the rules of Ballroom and the technique and the

0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.840
<v Speaker 2>framework and everything, but I think they also were pushing

0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.639
<v Speaker 2>me to get creative with it. I think something that

0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.400
<v Speaker 2>was really important for me going into it is I

0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.840
<v Speaker 2>as a dancer, As a performer, I am very feminine

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<v Speaker 2>when I dance, and I wanted to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't lose my identity but still make this partnership work.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was really interesting because even Jojo, she was like, no,

0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.239
<v Speaker 2>I want to look like a girl too, Like I

0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.359
<v Speaker 2>want to be feminine and sexy, but like I'll do

0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:48.840
<v Speaker 2>the guye part right, which was so interesting. So it

0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.240
<v Speaker 2>was fun to like make this new version of ballroom

0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:56.280
<v Speaker 2>okay and to really have that like female empowerment on

0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.480
<v Speaker 2>the floor. I thought, was so so much fun. That's

0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:01.920
<v Speaker 2>so great. So oh gosh, it seems so confusing.

0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:06.160
<v Speaker 1>So she was playing the male dancer ballroom part, which

0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you had to teach her how to do, but she

0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:10.960
<v Speaker 1>also wanted to do it with a feminine.

0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.760
<v Speaker 2>She wanted all of her styling like the female. Okay,

0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.600
<v Speaker 2>so the fingers, the arms, like the hips to everything.

0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:22.560
<v Speaker 2>She still wanted to represent that, but she was definitely

0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:26.080
<v Speaker 2>down to do the male steps okay, and you have

0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.320
<v Speaker 2>to teach all of it because you have to. Like, yeah,

0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.680
<v Speaker 2>she I mean she was, I mean, she's incredible. Of course,

0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:36.160
<v Speaker 2>she was just and she was so open to the process.

0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:38.800
<v Speaker 2>She loved every I think she cried for like the

0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.520
<v Speaker 2>last week every day because she was so sad it

0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:46.120
<v Speaker 2>was ending. No, you're like devastated. But it was such

0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:49.320
<v Speaker 2>a magical experience. And I think too, I felt so

0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.760
<v Speaker 2>connected to her, just like two women in the room,

0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, you understand each other's emotions.

0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you're like you're all close thing, you're both on

0:19:57.680 --> 0:19:58.520
<v Speaker 1>your periods together.

0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.439
<v Speaker 2>You're just like yeah. So it was it was a

0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.600
<v Speaker 2>really magic season, and I felt like she became my

0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.080
<v Speaker 2>little sister, which was so fun.

0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:09.120
<v Speaker 1>At what point in the show were you told that

0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.399
<v Speaker 1>you were going to have Jojo as your partner? Like,

0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:14.600
<v Speaker 1>were you because it feels like almost the way it

0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:16.960
<v Speaker 1>was for this season, I did not know who my

0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:20.000
<v Speaker 1>partner was until literally the day I met him.

0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it feels like for.

0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.240
<v Speaker 1>You to meet Jojo, that feels like they should have

0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:24.320
<v Speaker 1>given you a little bit.

0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Of lead time. They they did tell me that I

0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:29.280
<v Speaker 2>would be dancing with a girl, okay, but you didn't

0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:31.400
<v Speaker 2>know who. Yeah, they kind of gave me a heads

0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:34.440
<v Speaker 2>up that it would be this person, okay, But they

0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.040
<v Speaker 2>honestly kind of posed it as like, would you be

0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:40.199
<v Speaker 2>willing to dance with a girl? Okay? And I was

0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:44.119
<v Speaker 2>like yes, yeah. So I don't know if she knew

0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:45.800
<v Speaker 2>that we were going to be partners, but I think

0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.560
<v Speaker 2>they wanted to like respect this new thing and give

0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.040
<v Speaker 2>me the opportunity to say no, okay, And I am

0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:54.880
<v Speaker 2>forever grateful that I said yes. So great, good for you.

0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:11.560
<v Speaker 1>And so with Neive and Jojo, they both had dance experience. Yes,

0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:13.960
<v Speaker 1>And I talked a little to Pasha about this as well.

0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:18.440
<v Speaker 1>But where do you fall on the celebrities who come

0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:21.920
<v Speaker 1>into Dancing with the Stars should or should not have

0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:23.040
<v Speaker 1>prior dance experience.

0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:27.440
<v Speaker 2>So it's interesting because Nive didn't have dance experience. He

0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:31.119
<v Speaker 2>was just a megafan of dance. Okay, so his father

0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:34.119
<v Speaker 2>they would go to like ballets, and I think he

0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.960
<v Speaker 2>had like dabbled in it, but he had never really

0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.560
<v Speaker 2>been trained in it. He just loved the art form

0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:43.520
<v Speaker 2>of dance, got it, and so I don't think anybody

0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:46.159
<v Speaker 2>expected him to become the dancer that he did, and

0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.359
<v Speaker 2>it was just such a beautiful story. And then Jojo

0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:52.720
<v Speaker 2>obviously she was a dancer, not a ballarm dancer. Again,

0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:56.239
<v Speaker 2>she's learning a male part, so there were challenges. I

0:21:56.280 --> 0:22:00.520
<v Speaker 2>think every partner is going to have their challenges, yeah,

0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:04.840
<v Speaker 2>if they have experience or not, like you saw I've

0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:08.080
<v Speaker 2>had even with Jojo, when you're like, yes, they have

0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:11.600
<v Speaker 2>dance experience, but is that going to be relatable? Right?

0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Are people going to fall in love with the journey

0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:15.040
<v Speaker 2>or is it going to be like, well, she already

0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:19.120
<v Speaker 2>has experience, but you know, so it's also like connecting

0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:23.199
<v Speaker 2>on finding that that growth and your partner's chemistry. So

0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:26.359
<v Speaker 2>it's hard. I think there are a lot of people

0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:29.720
<v Speaker 2>that have dance experience on our season currently right now, yes,

0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:34.200
<v Speaker 2>but every it's all about the journey. I think as

0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:37.000
<v Speaker 2>long as there is an arc, you can still make

0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:41.679
<v Speaker 2>it entertaining and exciting. Absolutely, But I do think, I

0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:45.639
<v Speaker 2>do think it is so beautiful to see somebody with

0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:50.400
<v Speaker 2>no dance experience evolve into a dancer. Yeah, yeah, I bet,

0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I bet that, even if it's not your partner, just

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.920
<v Speaker 2>watching someone come in with like zero and then seeing

0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:58.760
<v Speaker 2>where they are by the end. It was my partner

0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:03.199
<v Speaker 2>last season, Joey no dance experience, and to like, I

0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 2>just got to thinking about it, but like, watching his

0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:08.480
<v Speaker 2>evolution and watching him fall in love with my favorite

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:12.480
<v Speaker 2>art form was so incredible to see he is. Can

0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 2>we talk about him for a second? Please?

0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:18.879
<v Speaker 1>What a gem I know of a man. So I

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 1>have now had the opportunity. It just so happened that

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 1>he was in New York. He was there for the

0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:25.240
<v Speaker 1>us O base. He was the same time we.

0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Were for Good Morning America.

0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:29.040
<v Speaker 1>We ran into each other in the Delta sky Lounge,

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 1>so I got to meet him there for the first time,

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, what a lovely man this guy is.

0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:36.919
<v Speaker 1>And then we saw each other at the Hulu end

0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 1>of Summer Soire and I got to hang out with

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:47.520
<v Speaker 1>him and his fiance Lovely people. Yeah, just incredible. And

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what do you have to teach men?

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:52.639
<v Speaker 1>What can I learn from you, sir? And he's like

0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:56.119
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I don't know, I'm just naturally this wonderful.

0:23:57.119 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Now. He is such a special, special human. Something that

0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I think makes Joey magic is he just really has

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 2>no ego. Yeah, none, no, and he's just like he

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of stands like this, he's like doesn't want to

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:15.560
<v Speaker 2>be in the way or like front and center. But

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:19.399
<v Speaker 2>then this performer like unleashed when we were on the

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:23.120
<v Speaker 2>dance floor and everyone was like wait what and it

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.640
<v Speaker 2>was just it was it was so great and he

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we ever missed a day of rehearsal.

0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 2>We were there all of our time frame. He was

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 2>giving me all of his efforts. And I think for

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 2>a little bit he had this like imposter syndrome and

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 2>he spoke about that because there's like all of these

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 2>celebrities and he just got off The Bachelor and he's like,

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:46.439
<v Speaker 2>what am I doing on Dancing with the Stars. But

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 2>I think everybody loved how relatable he was. Yeah, he's

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:55.120
<v Speaker 2>just like awesome guy going through life. Yeah, and then

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:59.359
<v Speaker 2>winning Dancing with the Stars. I know, so gosh, I

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:03.240
<v Speaker 2>love him so much. It seems Green Kelsey are so great. Yes.

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 1>If you had to suggest one dance or one routine

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>to someone as your favorite from the show, what would

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:12.399
<v Speaker 1>you choose?

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I would maybe say tango. You like tango Tango? I

0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 2>think it's really encompassing of like ballroom, Yeah, you know,

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 2>because it is in that frame. There's drama to it still,

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:33.680
<v Speaker 2>so there's still that performance element, there's footwork, there's partnering,

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 2>and I just I love tango. I love dancing tango.

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 2>So that would be the one that if it was

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 2>like a newcomer or beginner, I'd be like, let's start

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 2>with this, Okay.

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Are you surprised by the fandom? The show still has

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:52.959
<v Speaker 1>thirty four seasons in. I mean, it's arguably a bigger

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>fandom now than ever before thanks to social media.

0:25:56.160 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so I joined. I think right after, like the

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:04.919
<v Speaker 2>show was its biggest and it's high And you know,

0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 2>my brother in law, Max Murkowsky was on the show

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 2>at the time. He was like the guy and he

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 2>would just be telling me of these crazy stories, like

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:17.959
<v Speaker 2>thirty million viewers tuning in. Yes, that's unheard of, and

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:19.879
<v Speaker 2>so I think it was for a while we were

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of like living in the past of it and

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 2>just getting Ye, there was still interest, but last season

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 2>there was a drastic shift and you can feel it. It

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.439
<v Speaker 2>is palpable even going on the Dancing with the Stars

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:40.200
<v Speaker 2>tour this last year after the season, the audiences, the screams,

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:43.199
<v Speaker 2>the like lining up the buses, it was just I

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.880
<v Speaker 2>think it's also a different age group that's now interesting

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>in the show, the younger, not just moms and grandmash

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.920
<v Speaker 2>which we love and they're still here. Oh yeah, there's

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 2>nothing wrong with moms and grandma's. Oh they want you around,

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 2>We want them. They're just oh, granddaughters and daughters and

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 2>it's like a full family experience and it's really it's insane. Yeah,

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Like we are celebrating thirty four seasons. What show can

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 2>say that?

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I know, unbelievable, thirty four seasons, twenty years ye, twentieth

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>anniversary this year. So you mentioned Max as your brother

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>in law. You are married to Val himself a three

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 1>time champion. You guys met on the show in an

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>attempt to avoid asking you the same questions you've probably

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 1>always asked about working with your husband. I want to ask,

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 1>if you two weren't dancers, what other job would you

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>two work well together at.

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 2>I think we would find different paths. I love the honesty. No,

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 2>it's obviously incredible to share a craft with the person

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 2>you love most. But there are their challenges, you know. Yeah,

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:57.920
<v Speaker 2>But I would say thou would for sure be in comedy. Okay.

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:01.120
<v Speaker 2>He loves he's a performer, so he would always be

0:28:01.359 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 2>in the performance field of some sort. But he's so

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:06.479
<v Speaker 2>funny and he ticks me up. He is so funny,

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 2>and he like dabbled in comedy this past year on

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:12.479
<v Speaker 2>her time off, and he was actually really funny, Like

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 2>he do stand up yes, And I'm telling you, you

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 2>could not pay me a million dollars to go in

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:20.919
<v Speaker 2>front of a crowd right and try ouph and do

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 2>jokes like no, thank you bye. I would die dead.

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 2>He not only did it, but he was good. He

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.640
<v Speaker 2>was good and he did like I think, eight shows. Wow.

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 2>So I love that about him. He has like no

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 2>fear and he's just like, yeah, I'm gonna try something

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 2>that terrifies me. So I think he would do that,

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 2>and I would love to just like go giggle and

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 2>watch his shows for me. I mean, I love performance,

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 2>but I also love anatomy. So okay, yeah, I'm like

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 2>obsessed with murder investigations. It's really I'm probably a psychopath,

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 2>but I think I would be a forensic anthropologist, like

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 2>putting together they're at the murder scene with the bones

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 2>and the whole.

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, you know, I was obsessed with Forensic Files.

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I had seen I think every single episode of Forensic Files.

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>And there was a period of time in my twenties

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>before I decided I was going to go to school

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 1>for psychology and become a therapist. Before I'd made that decision,

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 1>which never panned out because I ended up becoming a director,

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>but I did pursue that. But before I did, I

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>thought about being a blood splatter expert.

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. We could start a business.

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I will be this and when you're ready to retire, Yeah,

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>and I am who knows what I'll be doing, I'll

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:40.479
<v Speaker 1>be like a thousand years old, but stop whatever that is.

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Start a business. Yeah, okay, I love this. You have

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful two and a half year old son, Rome.

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:51.719
<v Speaker 1>What is scheduling like for your household? Considering how busy

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a season Dancing with the Stars is, my husband has

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>had to so just with one of us being on

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Dancing with the Stars, my husband has had to pick

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>up so much slack and he's done it happily, he's

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 1>done it willingly. The kids are doing great, but like

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 1>he's had and then and then when he can't do something,

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 1>our nanny has had to pick up the slack.

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how do you guys do it with both of

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 2>you having the schedule? It is a lot when we

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 2>are in season. Yeah, also to you know, like last

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 2>minute things get added, a fitting, an interview, a master this,

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 2>a creative call of zoom, all of these things. So

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 2>it is hard and valin I have very different schedules,

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 2>like we're we have yet to rehearse at the same time. Luckily,

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 2>I have the most angelic in laws and they recently

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 2>moved from New York to just be with the babies

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 2>and help out. And so this season we also like

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 2>went rogue and we don't have a nanny currently. Wow,

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 2>but my son is in school, so he goes to

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 2>school and then my in laws are just like they're

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 2>here for us for the next three months and they're

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 2>like anything you need, like please, and they love it

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 2>like they are just a dreams. So but it is

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot, and like even last season, you know, when

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 2>I was going to the finale and I'm stressed every

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 2>night in this and that all got a limited I

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 2>think week seven he was picking up a lot of

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 2>the slack and he was being mommy and daddy for

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 2>us and like putting Rome to bed, and I remember

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 2>it broke my heart so bad. But I had missed

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 2>putting Rome to bed a couple of times and Rome

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 2>only wanted Belt to put him to bed, and I

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 2>was like, what's happening here? Yes, but he is an

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 2>incredible co parent and I would not be able to

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 2>do this world without him. And so yeah, it's a

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of communication, it's a lot of effort,

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 2>but so so worth it. Yeah, And when he gets

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 2>to like come on set and see what we're doing,

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 2>and he understands that we dance, and I think he

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 2>loves watching us dance, It's it's really fun and so

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 2>rewarding and fulfilling. Does he show any promising dancer attributes?

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Is he athletic? Is he he is? He loves music? Okay,

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 2>so I'm not sure if it's dance like you see

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 2>it are giving stuff, you know, I'm not sure about

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 2>the turnout. But he has incredible musicality already, like can

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>find to be a rhythm, you know, so I'd love

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 2>something in the music space.

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I would Oh, that'd be so wonderful. Does anything feel

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>different about this season for you?

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 2>I think every season feels different. Okay. I think it's

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 2>it's exciting. It's challenging to be like, Okay, I have

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 2>to forget everything that I've experienced with past partners and

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 2>just focus on how does my partner learn, how does

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 2>he absorb information? What are cues that I need to

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 2>give him? How is he going to react live? And

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 2>again we haven't we haven't premiered yet, so these are

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 2>still things that, like all of us pros are having

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 2>to learn. But I just love the magnitude that is

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 2>happening with the show right now, So that excites me.

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I think seeing the response and just seeing it get

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 2>bigger and bigger, that's very exciting. I think. Also, I've

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 2>never been invested in my social media as much during

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 2>the season as we all are currently. You know, it

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 2>feels like a TikTok fest off, like who's doing the

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 2>most tiktoks together. But you see the traction. Yeah, there

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 2>are so many eyes on the cast and this season

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 2>and the excitement. So I think that that's exciting for

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 2>me too to be like, yeah, let me have fun

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 2>with this show a different side of me too, Maybe

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 2>show some of my process how I work, you know,

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 2>how Corey and I work. So yeah, I love that.

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 2>So you were paired with Corey Feldman.

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>You guys have had a little bit of a false

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>start because he had some misrehearsals because of prior engagements.

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>How do you adjust with getting less time than you

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>would ideally want in a situation like this.

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's so funny because everyone was like, he's missing,

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 2>you haven't heard from him. We were in communication the

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 2>whole time. I mean, it was just, you know, he

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 2>had probably or engagement engagements that he had to do,

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 2>and so we both knew going into this that like

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 2>we were going to miss some time and we had

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:13.800
<v Speaker 2>some catching up to do before the premiere. But I

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 2>I love that first of all, he's aware of that

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 2>and he comes in now to each of our rehearsals

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 2>with this like not wanting to prove people wrong. But

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 2>he is excited to work hard, right, And I love

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 2>that that is one of the best qualities you can

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 2>ask in a new partner, like they need to want

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>to be there, yeah, and he does and he's excited

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 2>and he's fully like I have no ballroom experience. I

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.359
<v Speaker 2>have no partnering experience. It's always been like on my

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 2>own and I get to do whatever I want. It's

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 2>a free for all when I perform. So I love

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 2>that he's like, treat me like the biggest beginner.

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Right right, talk to me like I'm five, yes, yeah,

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and tell me everything.

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly. So yeah, it's been it's been so also

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 2>just so lovely to get to know him. Yea. He

0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 2>is hysterical, like really funny. Good You're gonna have to

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 2>use some of that humor. Oh I'm ready for Oh yeah,

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 2>you're you're already thinking. You recently posted a video talking

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 2>to people because people were wondering, like, why aren't you

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 2>posting tiktoks together? There were all kinds of rumors, and

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 2>so you posted a video talking about the fact that

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 2>you knew this was gonna happen. It was an no

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:25.359
<v Speaker 2>big deal, but you were eating a pinkberry and not to.

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Get too serious here, but what is your go to

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>flavor and your go to topping's easy?

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, hazel nuts okay, and pomegranate.

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>So pomegranate, pinkberry, and then the hazel nut topic, yes okay.

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Then if you door dash it, you get three scoops

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.800
<v Speaker 2>of the milk chocolate crunch. Oh, don't judge. I'm also

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 2>it was like I was also on my cycle gettings

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 2>were real. You get three scoops. Specifically you get the

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 2>popping boba. And then this was a new one that

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 2>I just tried pomegranate juice. Oh and they poured a

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 2>little pomegranate juice on it and seeped in. It was exquisite. Well,

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to hear that because the whole video you

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't take a single bite.

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>And I I was like, please eat the pink berry.

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 2>You know it's so funny. Please eat the pink berry

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 2>because it looked so good. The amount of dms that

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 2>said take a bite, take it, well, eat it. We

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:20.919
<v Speaker 2>were all rooting for you then. And then somebody else

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.439
<v Speaker 2>is getting real real She was like, don't post these

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 2>fake videos because we know you don't eat this, Like

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 2>it's okay to be real. I was like, girl, I

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:30.359
<v Speaker 2>devoured it.

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I just didn't want to talk and eat on.

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, like an ASMR video, I'm not gonna do that.

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 2>You won't get that for free.

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>You're not exactly save that for the Patreon or something,

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But the amount of people that were like, take the bite.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, it was just because I was like, man, even

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<v Speaker 1>wish I had a pinkberry. Do it just then, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>taste it because I could tell it was I could

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<v Speaker 1>tell it was pomegranate, which is my go to as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's funny. Brandon Armstrong danned me and he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I know, milk chocolate, a good chocolate crunch.

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<v Speaker 2>If I've ever seen what I was like, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>the same.

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<v Speaker 1>More to Brandon, okay, now to me, Yes, if you

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<v Speaker 1>could give me one piece of advice, what would it be?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Just one? Just one? Okay, give me. I'm sure, Pasha,

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<v Speaker 2>he is so great at his job and actually he's

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<v Speaker 2>given you all the tools, all the advice. Okay. My

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<v Speaker 2>biggest advice not every week is going to be your

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<v Speaker 2>best dance. Yeah, and I think what you do after

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<v Speaker 2>a rough dance is going to be your biggest superpower.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good because it's going to be easy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>after you've gotten harsh critiques, low scores while other people

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<v Speaker 2>are just soaring. If you have maybe a rough week

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<v Speaker 2>and you sit in that and wallow in that, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's when you're gonna get in your head and that's

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<v Speaker 2>when your spirit's gonna decline. Your dancing is gonna decline.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's okay to like feel that, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>use it as a challenge, right instead of defeat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's usually when you have your breakout moments, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's always kind of like mid season and that's where

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<v Speaker 2>things shift.

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<v Speaker 1>Such good advice, especially because I am a perfectionist and

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<v Speaker 1>so my biggest weakness is that I'm my own worst

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<v Speaker 1>critic and I'm hard on myself. So if it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>valid that it wasn't my strongest dance and I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>critiqued and I'm hard on myself, I can immediately ruin

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<v Speaker 1>any future chances I have unless I get my head

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<v Speaker 1>back in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Game, Yes, because then you'll just be stuck here exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's when you can see people like lose

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<v Speaker 2>their drive lose their heart, lose their you know that spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>So you are such I think you are. When I

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<v Speaker 2>saw that you were casted, I was like, you are

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<v Speaker 2>that perfect candidate for the show, like you are Dancing

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<v Speaker 2>with the Stars, and I am so excited to watch

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<v Speaker 2>your journey, Like I can Readie tell it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be exquisite. Thank you so much, Jenna.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so grateful you came and spent this time

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<v Speaker 2>with me this morning. Thanks for having me. I absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>adore you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get to spend nearly nearly as much time

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<v Speaker 1>with you as I would like, so we'll just need

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<v Speaker 1>to change that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, thank you so much for being here with

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me. Bye.

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