1 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Thanks, Welcome to Danielle with the Stars. I am Danielle Fischl, 2 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: a TV director, a podcaster forever Topanga, and a mom 3 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: of two. Currently, though I am becoming a ballroom dancer, 4 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: one painful step at a time. You can see me 5 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: on the new season of Dancing with the Stars, airing 6 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: every Tuesday on ABC and Disney Plus, and throughout the 7 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: entire process, I am recording this podcast chronicling the journey, 8 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: giving you the inside story of just one celebrities quest 9 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: for the Mirror Ball Trophy. And this week I am 10 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: lucky to be chatting with one of the many professionals 11 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: who helped revolutionize the art form, helping an old fashioned 12 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: style of dance somehow become one of pop culture's most 13 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: relevant TV shows. She's not only a two time Mirror 14 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: Ball champion, winning first with Adam Ripon in twenty eighteen 15 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: for season twenty six, and then again just last year 16 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: with Joey Gratzia Day, She's also an Emmy nominee, alongside 17 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: her husband, fellow Dancing with the Stars pro val Schermakovsky, 18 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: in the field of Outstanding Choreography for Variety or Reality Programming. 19 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: In short, she is the real deal. If during this 20 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: interview I can have even a small amount of her 21 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: talent rub off on me, I will be better for it. 22 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: My guest this week on Danielle with the Stars is 23 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: Jenna Johnson. 24 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: Wow that intro I'm not deserving. Oh that was incredible. 25 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: Say you're like Sheermakovsky? Do I say that right? How 26 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: do you say? Schmerkovski? Sure, schmir Schumer. That's get That's 27 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: what gets people. Schmerkovski, Schmurkovski. Yeah, it's Amerkovsky. Okay. I 28 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,279 Speaker 2: went from a Johnson to a Schmerkovsky real quick. 29 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: You know that must have been a hard adjustment. Yeah 30 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: it was, but so okay, good. I like to hear that. 31 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: So I want everyone to know that we are talking 32 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: just a few days before the season thirty four premiere. Yes, 33 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: and even if I tried, I would I would never 34 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: be able to explain the amount of excitement that is 35 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: bouncing around my entire body. 36 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: This will mark. 37 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: Your ninth season on Dancing with the Stars. Are you 38 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: jaded at this point or do you still feel. 39 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: The excitement of the unknown? Oh? Man, I still get 40 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: butterflies every single time, especially before the premiere, because you 41 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: have to realize that technically it's only like three and 42 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: a half months out of the year, and we wait 43 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: that nine months to be back on air, and I 44 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: think it's all of the pro's dream project or job. Yeah, 45 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: so there is nothing like that first show, especially and 46 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 2: you're with somebody new, like, yeah, you're seeing how they 47 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: react live the first time. It's all a new experience. 48 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: So I definitely have that excitement still. It never never 49 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: gets old. 50 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good to hear. Yes, you started as a 51 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: member of the Troop. Yeah, how did you find yourself 52 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: on the show's radar as a dancer to begin with? 53 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: So, I was on a show called So you Think 54 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: you Can Dance? Uh huh, And we actually filmed at 55 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: CBS across the hall, and so I think I was 56 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: just scouted out from there, like the producers had seen 57 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: my journey. Yeah I coached you. Yeah, I represented ballroom 58 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: on that show, and it was a really smooth transition. 59 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: I'm so grateful and so lucky because I know that 60 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: that doesn't happen a lot of the time. But that's 61 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: initially how I was found, and then yeah, I joined 62 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: the Troope. I was on the Troop for I think 63 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: like seven seasons. But at the time we were doing 64 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: two seasons a year. Oh right, I think it was 65 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: like three and a half years I was on the 66 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: troop and then I got myself a partner and here 67 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: we are. That is so incredible. When you're on the troop, is. 68 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: It difficult watching and seeing the pros competing? 69 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: Are you critiquing everything? Wishing you could jump in? You know? 70 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: It's so interesting And I'm actually I feel like I'm 71 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: in this full circle moment right now because my niece 72 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: actually is joining the Troop first time. Yes, and it's 73 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: been so fun to like see her get introduced to 74 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: this troop experience. And I think at the time I 75 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: was like, when I joined the show, I was so 76 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: desperate to be a pro. I wanted that shot. But 77 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: looking back, at the time I joined the show, we 78 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: had Derek still as a pro, Mark was a pro, Karna, 79 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: Peter Wow, Cheryl Kim Johnson like they were still competing Max. 80 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: So it was like the og crew. So I and 81 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: they would all like either ask me to help prep 82 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: a routine with them or I would be in their dances. 83 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: And so I saw how they orchestrated their rehearsal Ah, 84 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: and I feel like it was the best research that 85 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: I could have ever done. I got to learn from 86 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: the pros themselves how to do this and who was 87 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 2: successful with it, who wasn't necessarily, So I'm so grateful 88 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: for my time on Troop. I think it really helped 89 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: me become the teacher that I am, the partner that 90 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: I am, And so I'm I'm excited for my niece 91 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: to have this similar experience and I'm just like, absorb everything, 92 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: learn from everyone. 93 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: I got to meet the Troop yesterday. They were actually 94 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: were Oh my gosh, there is just the cutest, sweetest. 95 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Pasha pulled the Troop in 96 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: to watch us dance because, as you mentioned, the pros 97 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: have no idea what people are going to do when 98 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: they get out in front of a crowd. You're just 99 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: doing your dance, you know, for two people, you and 100 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: the dance are the entire week. So he brought Troop 101 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: in and told them to be vocal. 102 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: You had a little audience. 103 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: I had a little audience, and let me tell you, baby, 104 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: I came alive. 105 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. It was great. I was so excited. I was 106 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: great because usually it does the reverse and people panic 107 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: and everything goes out the window. So that's great. It 108 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: was really great. So she helped me yesterday. 109 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: I also, I think they were very excited because I 110 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: met them and then immediately I had just that morning. 111 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: I didn't even know I was going to meet Troop yesterday, 112 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: and that morning I thought, I want to do Troop 113 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: on the Stoop. 114 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: Have you seen that on TikTok no Coop on a Stoop? No, 115 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: it's a dad. 116 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: It was a son named Cooper, and every morning he 117 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: takes his son out and he talks about whether the stoop, 118 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: the little curb is dry or if it's wet. Sometimes 119 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: he has snacks and then he like records him sitting 120 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: down on the stoop. 121 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 2: So anyway, we're going to do Troop on a Stoop. 122 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: I love that. Thank you. I'm here for the series. 123 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm tuning in. 124 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: Oh well, I also want to talk to you about 125 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: the fact that you have another family member joining the show, 126 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: your niece, Haley Bills. She's already a fan favorite. Is 127 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: this just an absolute dream come true for you? 128 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: An absolute dream come true? I yeah, it's very surreal 129 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: because I think too, for so long I didn't have 130 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: any family out here or in the business, and I 131 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: felt so lost and confused on how to navigate. And thankfully, 132 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: like the Tchmerkovsky family adopted me and took me under 133 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: their wing and gave me a bunch of tools to 134 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: learn how to navigate. And I know that this has 135 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: been Hailey's dream for so long, and this was a 136 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: really hard year for her deciding what to do with 137 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: her life. She was in college last year she made 138 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: the and she had another college that really wanted her 139 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: to join their dance team. And she made the decision 140 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: without knowing if she was going to be on the show, 141 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: to go for her Yeah, move to LA and go 142 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: for her dream. And if it didn't happen, that's fine, 143 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: She's going to try like the auditioning, the whole La 144 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: dance experience, but this was ultimately her goal. And so 145 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: it was really special and I actually cannot wait to 146 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: release the video. But when I got picked up as 147 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: a pro, because we get picked up every year, right, 148 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: we're waiting and crossing our fingers. And so Dina Katz 149 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: called me and I'm like, oh, so grateful, thank you, 150 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: so excited to be back. And she was like, and 151 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: by the way, do you have Haley's number? And I 152 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: was like immediately start sobbing. VAL's like taking a video 153 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: of me. I'm soalming him. My godh gosh. And so 154 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: she was like, do you want to be on the call, 155 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: And so she let me call Haley and she was like, 156 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: don't say anything, just be like, hey, I'm going to 157 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: transfer you to Dina. And so me, Val, Haley and 158 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: Dina were on this call, and Haley was like sobbing 159 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: and so unexpected because again she like they didn't have 160 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: her number, she hadn't heard anything from the show. So 161 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: it was just like such a beautiful moment. And I 162 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 2: cannot wait to see her shine. I think that she 163 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: is She's the next star. I really do. Like she's 164 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: coming from my job and I'm like, let's get it, girls, 165 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: let's get it. But I can't wait to be there 166 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 2: for her, yeah, and help like guide her through this 167 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: crazy industry and all that it has to offer. But 168 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: it's gonna be really special to share the stage. Like 169 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: we have rehearsal coming up together, and I'm like to 170 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 2: be in rehearsal with my niece and my husband and 171 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: like my best friends, Like what is life so great? 172 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: It's one of the reason one of the things I 173 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: love most about directing is that I get to work 174 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: with a lot of kids directing Disney Channel shows, and 175 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: it feels very much like giving back to a young 176 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: version of myself. And for you, it's you getting being 177 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: there for Haley is going to feel like the kind 178 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: of care and that you would have needed as well. 179 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: It's wild because she is the exact age that I 180 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: was when I joined the show. So it does feel 181 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 2: very surreal. Yeah, so excited. 182 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so you make it. You make the transition from 183 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: Troop to Pro for season twenty three. In twenty sixteen, 184 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: with partner actor Jake T. Austin, you mentioned that Troop 185 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: was like the best schooling you could ever have. 186 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 2: But what happens you get a partner? Now? Is there 187 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: like a pamphlet there? How do you know what to do? 188 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: Good question? No, I was so fresh, newbie. I didn't 189 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: have much experience, and I think I I was so stressed, 190 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: and I could tell that like we were the young 191 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: ones of the crew, you know, he was like a 192 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: Disney kid. We were so so young. So I don't 193 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: think I was equipped with all the knowledge that I 194 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: needed to be the best partner. And I think something 195 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: too that I've learned with all my ears on the 196 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: show it is not about me at all, and it's hard. 197 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: When you are a professional dancer and you take your 198 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 2: craft very seriously. This is not a moment for you 199 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: to show off. This is a moment for your star 200 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: to shine. And so I think even like choreographically, I 201 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: was highlighting myself and limiting how he looked, if that 202 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: makes sense. 203 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: Especially no offense to the male pros, of course, because 204 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: they're often doing spectacular things themselves, but like, as a 205 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: female dancer, it's so often about you showing off. 206 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: Yes, they're supposed to highlight us, yes, exactly. 207 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: That's the technical job of the male is to be 208 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: the frame. 209 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think I had That was a great 210 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: first season for me. But then I had to learn, Okay, 211 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 2: I need to maybe not hold back, but I need 212 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: to be more strategic with my choreography. I need to 213 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: highlight my partner, make sure that they look the best, 214 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: and I will compliment. 215 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, so I mean being just thrown into it's 216 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: kind of the best education you could go. 217 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you placed. 218 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Thirteenth that year. You were the first couple eliminated. Were 219 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: you super hard on yourself? 220 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 2: And what did you do. 221 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: The next year to make sure you didn't repeat that 222 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: same mistake. 223 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was hard. It was a learning experience, 224 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: but there was I'm all about timing and there's always 225 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: a meaning to everything. So I was eliminated. First, I 226 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: was super down because I felt like I had of 227 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: like defeated my role that I had just been promoted to. 228 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: But that season, there was an incredible celebrity on the 229 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: show named James Hinchcliffe. Yeah, and his partner Sharna actually 230 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: got injured. She got really really injured. And so for 231 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: a couple weeks, I think it was like two weeks, 232 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: I was rehearsing with him and I actually got to 233 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: perform with him, and we did this piece, this like 234 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: suicide squad dance, this Fox Shaw and it just like 235 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 2: blew up. I felt like I had more understanding. I 236 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: also had like Sharna's guidance in the room and how 237 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: to handle myself. But it like blew up the dance, 238 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: and I felt like it gave me the confidence that 239 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: I needed to be right, Okay, I've got this, right, 240 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: I just need a bit more understanding, but like I've 241 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: got this. So that was an incredible experience. For me 242 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: to have that same season, yes, and then yeah, the 243 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: next season, I was given this just like Diamonds of 244 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: Adam Ribon, and I felt like I had the confidence 245 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: and like, okay, the challenge. I accepted the challenge. I 246 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: was ready. 247 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: It's so great how quickly you were able, Like truly, 248 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: just within weeks you were like, I've already learned a lesson. 249 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: Oh and I'm going to put it into play just 250 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: weeks later. Thankfully you didn't have to wait the entire season, 251 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: you know. Wow, Okay, so yes, you get for athletes season, 252 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: you get Adam Rippon. When did you realize, oh, hey, 253 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: I think we have a chance of winning this thing? 254 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: You know. It's funny, Well, I knew that he was talented, 255 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: like obviously he was this gorgeous skater, so he had artistry. 256 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: But I think I knew that we had a shot 257 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 2: when I understood our chemistry was so so connected. Very 258 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: early on in the rehearsal space. We just got along 259 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: so well. We had great banter. We loved each other. Yeah, 260 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: we really loved spending time together. And that is as 261 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: big as part of the process as much as this dance. 262 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: The dancing is totally right like totally. You have to 263 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: trust your person. Yeah, you have to feel safe and 264 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: vulnerable in their arms. And so I think that, like 265 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: I started to be like, oh, I think we have 266 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: great chemistry. I think this can translate on the dance floor. 267 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: He obviously is an Olympian. He was so hard working 268 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: and I was so motivated to make this happen for him. 269 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: Well you did. You did make it happen to him. 270 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: Your hard work paid off because you won the whole thing, 271 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: having gone from first to be eliminated, I know, to 272 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: winning the mirror Ball. 273 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite stories. It's so incredible. I 274 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: actually told that to Ezra last year. You know, he 275 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: was promoted to a pro from Troop and he was 276 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: eliminated first last year and I was just like Ezra, 277 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: I was eliminated first, and then I won the next season. 278 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: So you just never know exactly exactly that whatever happens 279 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: that first year is not any sort of telling of 280 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: what's to come in the future. What are some of 281 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: the collect attributes you think you and Adam had as 282 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: a team that made you into champs. 283 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: I think trust okay was huge. I think being able 284 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: to like tune everything out on the dance floor and 285 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: just be so present with one another was our superpower, Okay, 286 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: and you will feel that, like, I'm very excited for 287 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: you to have your first camera blocking because a lot 288 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: of the times I'm just gonna prep you. Yeah, the 289 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: first run is just an absolute mess. Okay, it is, 290 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: and it's fine. You get three gos usually, Yeah, the 291 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: first one is a disaster. There's things happening, there's cameras out, 292 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: the lights. You're just like new space. And then Pasha's 293 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: gonna grab your hands and like, yeah, call me down 294 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: me just just focus on me, nothing else, no other distractions, 295 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: and then you'll like find your footing. And so Adam 296 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: and I had that like great connection where we just 297 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: found each other into everything out. So I think that 298 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: was great. I think that our chemistry, we just we 299 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: had so much fun. We laughed. I think a majority 300 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: of our rehearsals like we got work done, but it 301 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: was so much fun good And I think that was 302 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: also the first time that I was like, oh, I 303 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: can enjoy this while we work hard. And I think 304 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: not losing that joy also sparks creativity, inspiration, you know, 305 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: moments magic. But also he is a huge reason why 306 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: we won. He is such a hard worker. He was 307 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: determined to become a ballroom dancer. I think people love 308 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: that journey of like I'm entering this so I can 309 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: learn how to be a ballroom dancer. Like no ego involved. 310 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: He was down to take criticism, critiques from the judges, 311 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: and then he was just hysterical live Like his banter 312 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: with the host was so funny, so funny. 313 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: That goes such a long way with forming a connection 314 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: with the audience too. 315 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: Personality. I wanted to talk. 316 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: About season twenty nine with Catfish's Neve Schulman. You place 317 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: second so close down to the finale? Would you rather 318 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: just come in eighth? 319 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: Like? Is there any I feel like I would have 320 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: a heart attack. I'm telling you, Second is torture is 321 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 2: the worst. It's torture. I mean, it's such an accomplishment, 322 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: but you like sitting there the mirror balls in between 323 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 2: two couples and you're just like so close, and then 324 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: they don't even like announce your name, right, You're just 325 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 2: like the winners, you know, and you're just like so 326 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: happy for the other couple, but just dying inside. I'm 327 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: so like crumbling. 328 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, well then you have another second place for 329 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: a legendary season with Jojo Seewak. You were the first 330 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: same sex coupling in the show's history. Yeah, what adjustments 331 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: do you have to make when prepping for that? 332 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: So many? Yeah, because again, this was the first time 333 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: that the show is it, and so I didn't have 334 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: any reference point, and they were so awesome about being like, 335 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: you really can just figure this out right, whatever you 336 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: make the blueprint, Yeah, kind of, And I wanted to 337 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 2: respect the rules of Ballroom and the technique and the 338 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: framework and everything, but I think they also were pushing 339 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 2: me to get creative with it. I think something that 340 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 2: was really important for me going into it is I 341 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: as a dancer, As a performer, I am very feminine 342 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: when I dance, and I wanted to make sure that 343 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: I didn't lose my identity but still make this partnership work. 344 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: And it was really interesting because even Jojo, she was like, no, 345 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 2: I want to look like a girl too, Like I 346 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 2: want to be feminine and sexy, but like I'll do 347 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: the guye part right, which was so interesting. So it 348 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: was fun to like make this new version of ballroom 349 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: okay and to really have that like female empowerment on 350 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: the floor. I thought, was so so much fun. That's 351 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: so great. So oh gosh, it seems so confusing. 352 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: So she was playing the male dancer ballroom part, which 353 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: you had to teach her how to do, but she 354 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: also wanted to do it with a feminine. 355 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: She wanted all of her styling like the female. Okay, 356 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: so the fingers, the arms, like the hips to everything. 357 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: She still wanted to represent that, but she was definitely 358 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: down to do the male steps okay, and you have 359 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: to teach all of it because you have to. Like, yeah, 360 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 2: she I mean she was, I mean, she's incredible. Of course, 361 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 2: she was just and she was so open to the process. 362 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: She loved every I think she cried for like the 363 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: last week every day because she was so sad it 364 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 2: was ending. No, you're like devastated. But it was such 365 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: a magical experience. And I think too, I felt so 366 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: connected to her, just like two women in the room, 367 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: you know, you understand each other's emotions. 368 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: Yes, you're like you're all close thing, you're both on 369 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: your periods together. 370 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 2: You're just like yeah. So it was it was a 371 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: really magic season, and I felt like she became my 372 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: little sister, which was so fun. 373 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: At what point in the show were you told that 374 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: you were going to have Jojo as your partner? Like, 375 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: were you because it feels like almost the way it 376 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: was for this season, I did not know who my 377 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: partner was until literally the day I met him. 378 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it feels like for. 379 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: You to meet Jojo, that feels like they should have 380 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: given you a little bit. 381 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: Of lead time. They they did tell me that I 382 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: would be dancing with a girl, okay, but you didn't 383 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: know who. Yeah, they kind of gave me a heads 384 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: up that it would be this person, okay, But they 385 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: honestly kind of posed it as like, would you be 386 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 2: willing to dance with a girl? Okay? And I was 387 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: like yes, yeah. So I don't know if she knew 388 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: that we were going to be partners, but I think 389 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: they wanted to like respect this new thing and give 390 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: me the opportunity to say no, okay, And I am 391 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 2: forever grateful that I said yes. So great, good for you. 392 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: And so with Neive and Jojo, they both had dance experience. Yes, 393 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: And I talked a little to Pasha about this as well. 394 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: But where do you fall on the celebrities who come 395 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: into Dancing with the Stars should or should not have 396 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: prior dance experience. 397 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: So it's interesting because Nive didn't have dance experience. He 398 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 2: was just a megafan of dance. Okay, so his father 399 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: they would go to like ballets, and I think he 400 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 2: had like dabbled in it, but he had never really 401 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: been trained in it. He just loved the art form 402 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: of dance, got it, and so I don't think anybody 403 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 2: expected him to become the dancer that he did, and 404 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: it was just such a beautiful story. And then Jojo 405 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: obviously she was a dancer, not a ballarm dancer. Again, 406 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,239 Speaker 2: she's learning a male part, so there were challenges. I 407 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: think every partner is going to have their challenges, yeah, 408 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: if they have experience or not, like you saw I've 409 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: had even with Jojo, when you're like, yes, they have 410 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: dance experience, but is that going to be relatable? Right? 411 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: Are people going to fall in love with the journey 412 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: or is it going to be like, well, she already 413 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 2: has experience, but you know, so it's also like connecting 414 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 2: on finding that that growth and your partner's chemistry. So 415 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: it's hard. I think there are a lot of people 416 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: that have dance experience on our season currently right now, yes, 417 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: but every it's all about the journey. I think as 418 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: long as there is an arc, you can still make 419 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 2: it entertaining and exciting. Absolutely, But I do think, I 420 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 2: do think it is so beautiful to see somebody with 421 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 2: no dance experience evolve into a dancer. Yeah, yeah, I bet, 422 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: I bet that, even if it's not your partner, just 423 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 2: watching someone come in with like zero and then seeing 424 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: where they are by the end. It was my partner 425 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 2: last season, Joey no dance experience, and to like, I 426 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 2: just got to thinking about it, but like, watching his 427 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: evolution and watching him fall in love with my favorite 428 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: art form was so incredible to see he is. Can 429 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: we talk about him for a second? Please? 430 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: What a gem I know of a man. So I 431 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: have now had the opportunity. It just so happened that 432 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: he was in New York. He was there for the 433 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: us O base. He was the same time we. 434 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: Were for Good Morning America. 435 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: We ran into each other in the Delta sky Lounge, 436 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: so I got to meet him there for the first time, 437 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: and I thought, what a lovely man this guy is. 438 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: And then we saw each other at the Hulu end 439 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: of Summer Soire and I got to hang out with 440 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: him and his fiance Lovely people. Yeah, just incredible. And 441 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: I was like, what do you have to teach men? 442 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: What can I learn from you, sir? And he's like 443 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: he's like, I don't know, I'm just naturally this wonderful. 444 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: Now. He is such a special, special human. Something that 445 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: I think makes Joey magic is he just really has 446 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: no ego. Yeah, none, no, and he's just like he 447 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: kind of stands like this, he's like doesn't want to 448 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: be in the way or like front and center. But 449 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 2: then this performer like unleashed when we were on the 450 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 2: dance floor and everyone was like wait what and it 451 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 2: was just it was it was so great and he 452 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if we ever missed a day of rehearsal. 453 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: We were there all of our time frame. He was 454 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: giving me all of his efforts. And I think for 455 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: a little bit he had this like imposter syndrome and 456 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 2: he spoke about that because there's like all of these 457 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 2: celebrities and he just got off The Bachelor and he's like, 458 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 2: what am I doing on Dancing with the Stars. But 459 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: I think everybody loved how relatable he was. Yeah, he's 460 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 2: just like awesome guy going through life. Yeah, and then 461 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: winning Dancing with the Stars. I know, so gosh, I 462 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: love him so much. It seems Green Kelsey are so great. Yes. 463 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: If you had to suggest one dance or one routine 464 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: to someone as your favorite from the show, what would 465 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: you choose? 466 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: I would maybe say tango. You like tango Tango? I 467 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: think it's really encompassing of like ballroom, Yeah, you know, 468 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: because it is in that frame. There's drama to it still, 469 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 2: so there's still that performance element, there's footwork, there's partnering, 470 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: and I just I love tango. I love dancing tango. 471 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: So that would be the one that if it was 472 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: like a newcomer or beginner, I'd be like, let's start 473 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: with this, Okay. 474 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: Are you surprised by the fandom? The show still has 475 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 1: thirty four seasons in. I mean, it's arguably a bigger 476 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: fandom now than ever before thanks to social media. 477 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: Yes, so I joined. I think right after, like the 478 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 2: show was its biggest and it's high And you know, 479 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: my brother in law, Max Murkowsky was on the show 480 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: at the time. He was like the guy and he 481 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: would just be telling me of these crazy stories, like 482 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 2: thirty million viewers tuning in. Yes, that's unheard of, and 483 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 2: so I think it was for a while we were 484 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 2: kind of like living in the past of it and 485 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: just getting Ye, there was still interest, but last season 486 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: there was a drastic shift and you can feel it. It 487 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 2: is palpable even going on the Dancing with the Stars 488 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: tour this last year after the season, the audiences, the screams, 489 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 2: the like lining up the buses, it was just I 490 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 2: think it's also a different age group that's now interesting 491 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: in the show, the younger, not just moms and grandmash 492 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 2: which we love and they're still here. Oh yeah, there's 493 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: nothing wrong with moms and grandma's. Oh they want you around, 494 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 2: We want them. They're just oh, granddaughters and daughters and 495 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: it's like a full family experience and it's really it's insane. Yeah, 496 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 2: Like we are celebrating thirty four seasons. What show can 497 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: say that? 498 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: I know, unbelievable, thirty four seasons, twenty years ye, twentieth 499 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: anniversary this year. So you mentioned Max as your brother 500 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: in law. You are married to Val himself a three 501 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: time champion. You guys met on the show in an 502 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: attempt to avoid asking you the same questions you've probably 503 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: always asked about working with your husband. I want to ask, 504 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: if you two weren't dancers, what other job would you 505 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: two work well together at. 506 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: I think we would find different paths. I love the honesty. No, 507 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 2: it's obviously incredible to share a craft with the person 508 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: you love most. But there are their challenges, you know. Yeah, 509 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 2: But I would say thou would for sure be in comedy. Okay. 510 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 2: He loves he's a performer, so he would always be 511 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 2: in the performance field of some sort. But he's so 512 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 2: funny and he ticks me up. He is so funny, 513 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 2: and he like dabbled in comedy this past year on 514 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 2: her time off, and he was actually really funny, Like 515 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 2: he do stand up yes, And I'm telling you, you 516 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: could not pay me a million dollars to go in 517 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 2: front of a crowd right and try ouph and do 518 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 2: jokes like no, thank you bye. I would die dead. 519 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: He not only did it, but he was good. He 520 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 2: was good and he did like I think, eight shows. Wow. 521 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: So I love that about him. He has like no 522 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: fear and he's just like, yeah, I'm gonna try something 523 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: that terrifies me. So I think he would do that, 524 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: and I would love to just like go giggle and 525 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: watch his shows for me. I mean, I love performance, 526 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: but I also love anatomy. So okay, yeah, I'm like 527 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: obsessed with murder investigations. It's really I'm probably a psychopath, 528 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: but I think I would be a forensic anthropologist, like 529 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: putting together they're at the murder scene with the bones 530 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: and the whole. 531 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: You know, you know, I was obsessed with Forensic Files. 532 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: I had seen I think every single episode of Forensic Files. 533 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: And there was a period of time in my twenties 534 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: before I decided I was going to go to school 535 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: for psychology and become a therapist. Before I'd made that decision, 536 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: which never panned out because I ended up becoming a director, 537 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: but I did pursue that. But before I did, I 538 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: thought about being a blood splatter expert. 539 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: That's amazing. We could start a business. 540 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: I will be this and when you're ready to retire, Yeah, 541 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: and I am who knows what I'll be doing, I'll 542 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 1: be like a thousand years old, but stop whatever that is. 543 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: Start a business. Yeah, okay, I love this. You have 544 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: a beautiful two and a half year old son, Rome. 545 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 1: What is scheduling like for your household? Considering how busy 546 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: a season Dancing with the Stars is, my husband has 547 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: had to so just with one of us being on 548 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars, my husband has had to pick 549 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: up so much slack and he's done it happily, he's 550 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: done it willingly. The kids are doing great, but like 551 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: he's had and then and then when he can't do something, 552 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: our nanny has had to pick up the slack. 553 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you guys do it with both of 554 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: you having the schedule? It is a lot when we 555 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: are in season. Yeah, also to you know, like last 556 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: minute things get added, a fitting, an interview, a master this, 557 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 2: a creative call of zoom, all of these things. So 558 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: it is hard and valin I have very different schedules, 559 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: like we're we have yet to rehearse at the same time. Luckily, 560 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: I have the most angelic in laws and they recently 561 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: moved from New York to just be with the babies 562 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: and help out. And so this season we also like 563 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: went rogue and we don't have a nanny currently. Wow, 564 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: but my son is in school, so he goes to 565 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: school and then my in laws are just like they're 566 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: here for us for the next three months and they're 567 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: like anything you need, like please, and they love it 568 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: like they are just a dreams. So but it is 569 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: a lot, and like even last season, you know, when 570 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: I was going to the finale and I'm stressed every 571 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: night in this and that all got a limited I 572 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: think week seven he was picking up a lot of 573 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: the slack and he was being mommy and daddy for 574 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: us and like putting Rome to bed, and I remember 575 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: it broke my heart so bad. But I had missed 576 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: putting Rome to bed a couple of times and Rome 577 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: only wanted Belt to put him to bed, and I 578 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: was like, what's happening here? Yes, but he is an 579 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: incredible co parent and I would not be able to 580 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 2: do this world without him. And so yeah, it's a 581 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 2: it's a lot of communication, it's a lot of effort, 582 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: but so so worth it. Yeah, And when he gets 583 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: to like come on set and see what we're doing, 584 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: and he understands that we dance, and I think he 585 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: loves watching us dance, It's it's really fun and so 586 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: rewarding and fulfilling. Does he show any promising dancer attributes? 587 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: Is he athletic? Is he he is? He loves music? Okay, 588 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: so I'm not sure if it's dance like you see 589 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: it are giving stuff, you know, I'm not sure about 590 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: the turnout. But he has incredible musicality already, like can 591 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: find to be a rhythm, you know, so I'd love 592 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: something in the music space. 593 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: I would Oh, that'd be so wonderful. Does anything feel 594 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: different about this season for you? 595 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: I think every season feels different. Okay. I think it's 596 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 2: it's exciting. It's challenging to be like, Okay, I have 597 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: to forget everything that I've experienced with past partners and 598 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: just focus on how does my partner learn, how does 599 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: he absorb information? What are cues that I need to 600 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: give him? How is he going to react live? And 601 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: again we haven't we haven't premiered yet, so these are 602 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: still things that, like all of us pros are having 603 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: to learn. But I just love the magnitude that is 604 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 2: happening with the show right now, So that excites me. 605 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: I think seeing the response and just seeing it get 606 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: bigger and bigger, that's very exciting. I think. Also, I've 607 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: never been invested in my social media as much during 608 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: the season as we all are currently. You know, it 609 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: feels like a TikTok fest off, like who's doing the 610 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: most tiktoks together. But you see the traction. Yeah, there 611 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: are so many eyes on the cast and this season 612 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: and the excitement. So I think that that's exciting for 613 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: me too to be like, yeah, let me have fun 614 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 2: with this show a different side of me too, Maybe 615 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: show some of my process how I work, you know, 616 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: how Corey and I work. So yeah, I love that. 617 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: So you were paired with Corey Feldman. 618 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: You guys have had a little bit of a false 619 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: start because he had some misrehearsals because of prior engagements. 620 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: How do you adjust with getting less time than you 621 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: would ideally want in a situation like this. 622 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's so funny because everyone was like, he's missing, 623 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: you haven't heard from him. We were in communication the 624 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: whole time. I mean, it was just, you know, he 625 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 2: had probably or engagement engagements that he had to do, 626 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: and so we both knew going into this that like 627 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: we were going to miss some time and we had 628 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 2: some catching up to do before the premiere. But I 629 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 2: I love that first of all, he's aware of that 630 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 2: and he comes in now to each of our rehearsals 631 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: with this like not wanting to prove people wrong. But 632 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 2: he is excited to work hard, right, And I love 633 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 2: that that is one of the best qualities you can 634 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 2: ask in a new partner, like they need to want 635 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 2: to be there, yeah, and he does and he's excited 636 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: and he's fully like I have no ballroom experience. I 637 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 2: have no partnering experience. It's always been like on my 638 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 2: own and I get to do whatever I want. It's 639 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: a free for all when I perform. So I love 640 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 2: that he's like, treat me like the biggest beginner. 641 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: Right right, talk to me like I'm five, yes, yeah, 642 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: and tell me everything. 643 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. So yeah, it's been it's been so also 644 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 2: just so lovely to get to know him. Yea. He 645 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: is hysterical, like really funny. Good You're gonna have to 646 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 2: use some of that humor. Oh I'm ready for Oh yeah, 647 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: you're you're already thinking. You recently posted a video talking 648 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 2: to people because people were wondering, like, why aren't you 649 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: posting tiktoks together? There were all kinds of rumors, and 650 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 2: so you posted a video talking about the fact that 651 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: you knew this was gonna happen. It was an no 652 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 2: big deal, but you were eating a pinkberry and not to. 653 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: Get too serious here, but what is your go to 654 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: flavor and your go to topping's easy? 655 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 2: Okay, hazel nuts okay, and pomegranate. 656 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: So pomegranate, pinkberry, and then the hazel nut topic, yes okay. 657 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 2: Then if you door dash it, you get three scoops 658 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 2: of the milk chocolate crunch. Oh, don't judge. I'm also 659 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 2: it was like I was also on my cycle gettings 660 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 2: were real. You get three scoops. Specifically you get the 661 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: popping boba. And then this was a new one that 662 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 2: I just tried pomegranate juice. Oh and they poured a 663 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: little pomegranate juice on it and seeped in. It was exquisite. Well, 664 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that because the whole video you 665 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 2: didn't take a single bite. 666 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: And I I was like, please eat the pink berry. 667 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: You know it's so funny. Please eat the pink berry 668 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 2: because it looked so good. The amount of dms that 669 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 2: said take a bite, take it, well, eat it. We 670 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 2: were all rooting for you then. And then somebody else 671 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 2: is getting real real She was like, don't post these 672 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 2: fake videos because we know you don't eat this, Like 673 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 2: it's okay to be real. I was like, girl, I 674 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 2: devoured it. 675 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: I just didn't want to talk and eat on. 676 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, like an ASMR video, I'm not gonna do that. 677 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 2: You won't get that for free. 678 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: You're not exactly save that for the Patreon or something, 679 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: you know. 680 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 2: But the amount of people that were like, take the bite. 681 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: Honestly, it was just because I was like, man, even 682 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: wish I had a pinkberry. Do it just then, I'll 683 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: taste it because I could tell it was I could 684 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: tell it was pomegranate, which is my go to as well. 685 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. Brandon Armstrong danned me and he 686 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 2: was like, I know, milk chocolate, a good chocolate crunch. 687 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 2: If I've ever seen what I was like, we've got 688 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:03,919 Speaker 2: the same. 689 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: More to Brandon, okay, now to me, Yes, if you 690 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: could give me one piece of advice, what would it be? 691 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 2: Oh? Just one? Just one? Okay, give me. I'm sure, Pasha, 692 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 2: he is so great at his job and actually he's 693 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 2: given you all the tools, all the advice. Okay. My 694 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 2: biggest advice not every week is going to be your 695 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 2: best dance. Yeah, and I think what you do after 696 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: a rough dance is going to be your biggest superpower. 697 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: That's good because it's going to be easy, you know, 698 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 2: after you've gotten harsh critiques, low scores while other people 699 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 2: are just soaring. If you have maybe a rough week 700 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: and you sit in that and wallow in that, and 701 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 2: that's when you're gonna get in your head and that's 702 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 2: when your spirit's gonna decline. Your dancing is gonna decline. 703 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 2: And it's okay to like feel that, but I think 704 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 2: use it as a challenge, right instead of defeat. Yeah, 705 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 2: because that's usually when you have your breakout moments, and 706 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 2: it's always kind of like mid season and that's where 707 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 2: things shift. 708 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: Such good advice, especially because I am a perfectionist and 709 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: so my biggest weakness is that I'm my own worst 710 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: critic and I'm hard on myself. So if it's actually 711 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: valid that it wasn't my strongest dance and I'm getting 712 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 1: critiqued and I'm hard on myself, I can immediately ruin 713 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: any future chances I have unless I get my head 714 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: back in the. 715 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 2: Game, Yes, because then you'll just be stuck here exactly, 716 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,479 Speaker 2: And that's that's when you can see people like lose 717 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 2: their drive lose their heart, lose their you know that spirit. 718 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 2: So you are such I think you are. When I 719 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 2: saw that you were casted, I was like, you are 720 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: that perfect candidate for the show, like you are Dancing 721 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 2: with the Stars, and I am so excited to watch 722 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 2: your journey, Like I can Readie tell it's going to 723 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 2: it's going to be exquisite. Thank you so much, Jenna. 724 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: I am so grateful you came and spent this time 725 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 2: with me this morning. Thanks for having me. I absolutely 726 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 2: adore you. 727 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,439 Speaker 1: I don't get to spend nearly nearly as much time 728 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: with you as I would like, so we'll just need 729 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: to change that. 730 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, thank you so much for being here with 731 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. Bye. 732 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: Danielle with the Stars Produced and hosted by Danielle Fischel, 733 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,479 Speaker 1: Executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge 734 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: of production, Danielle Romo, producer, editor and engineer Tara Sudbosch. 735 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: Theme song by Justin Siegel. 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