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Speaker 5: Well and right now it's the real report. We here

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Speaker 1: So everything soundtrack bullshit. I was definitely on that. You know,

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Speaker 1: But the second verse, if you listen to the second

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Speaker 1: I wrote that for Fags.

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Speaker 2: That was before the case too.

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Speaker 1: What the case August nineteen ninety nine, So he never

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Speaker 1: I want nothing to do with you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because that was listen, yo, listen, once you got

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Speaker 5: Club New York was popping. That shit was like on

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Speaker 5: To many, that's crazy because I know, look like you're thinking,

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Speaker 5: You gotta think, you gotta think about kid. You gotta

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Speaker 1: I saw somebody mention that the kids from Brooklyn, we're

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Speaker 1: you know, get there. We know you got us and

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00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: we got you.

431
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

432
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that's ridiculous. But I don't know what

433
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: happened is we're walking out, they get the arguing, money,

434
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: get the flying and people start saying they gonna kill me,

435
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: they gonna kill Puff because God said to me, Paul,

436
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna go with him over us, Like basically they

437
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: expected that I was supposed to like kind of just

438
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: disappear when the argument started. I was supposed to be like,

439
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: you know what.

440
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 5: Like get up my white nigga. J Lo would be nigga,

441
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 5: and then them niggas like what I mean. It's a

442
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 5: certain way, you know.

443
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: When guys in the street are getting money, sometimes that's millions.

444
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 5: Till this day, I carried myself like that I could

445
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 5: be in the spot and it could be niggas.

446
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: I don't know they temper.

447
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 5: I don't know where they're from, but these niggas be

448
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 5: to get money, niggas from the town and I'm coming

449
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 5: move out the white nigga niggas ain't trying to hear

450
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 5: them and escalate to a shootout.

451
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: I know.

452
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 5: Once he heard somebody got hit in the face innocent standing,

453
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, leaf shine up in there, call the lawyer

454
00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 5: separate the case.

455
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you ain't even speak to him when.

456
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: I did not. I did not speak to him. He Remember,

457
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: we're on trial together. So even when we go to

458
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: court for pre trial for for everything, before we even

459
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: get to jury selections, you still got to go to

460
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: court to set the trial date and to do all

461
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: these things no conversation. And if it wasn't for Wolf,

462
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: I would have never got to release My West in

463
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: Peace to Anthony Wolf Jones, my big brother. He was

464
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: the one. So it was like, this is I get

465
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: bailed out January. It wasn't until February, like the end

466
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: of February that he said to Puff, you are going

467
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: to put his album out. I don't care what we're

468
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: gonna have. You're gonna have a problem with me. I'm sorry,

469
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: shine album coming out. And he made sure that I

470
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: got that opportunity. And so they finally called me the

471
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: Bad Boy Records that was in the BMG building on

472
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: Broadway and forty fifth, I believe, And so I went

473
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: there and the first record they played for me that

474
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: I picked was The Life that was from Nache Merrick

475
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: hit Man. And then if you listen to that album

476
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: and that song I'm kind of rapping about Puff, I

477
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: was like it was all right until I got caught

478
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: charged with a eight forty eight behind marrying Steve Gates.

479
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: They started snitching, acting bizarre, driving my cars, hitting my bros,

480
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: breaking the law, same people I got money to care

481
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: it was on some funny thing. If I was different,

482
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: I snitched. What would you do if you got millions

483
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: with people and they had no love for you couldn't

484
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,239
Speaker 1: pay for your lawyer? Figured while I sit in the

485
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: seller rock, I'd be out in ten throw the boys

486
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: in the But I couldn't do it, and you wouldn't

487
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: understand if you ain't been through it ruse to this.

488
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't break them death before the signer till I

489
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: mean satan. I know you're waiting, you know what I mean.

490
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: That's what y'all gonna get. Mac got one of the

491
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: rest stories in the culture. So this is what I

492
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: gotta know, because there's a difference between jail and prison.

493
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: You know, jail is is fucking rikers Allen. You know

494
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

495
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 5: What jails you went to and what was your mental

496
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 5: state coming off of having the biggest records in the world.

497
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 5: You down with puff He didn't pay your bill? Now

498
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 5: you blue trial or did you cop out to that team?

499
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: I bleue trial. I took it to trial. I didn't

500
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: corporate the district attorney at the time, And I just

501
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: want to put in perspective everything that I say, I'm

502
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: saying from a historical perspective, as far as you're sharing

503
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: the information, I don't glorify Definitely not anything that I

504
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: may have done as a youth. And even that night,

505
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: I was defending myself and the victim said that popshotter,

506
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: not me. So I always maintained that I was not

507
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: responsible for injuring any of those people, and that I

508
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: was defending myself. So I just you know, I went

509
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 1: to my primary school today, PS ninety two in Brooklyn.

510
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: It's the first school I went to as an immigrant

511
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: fresh off the Coconut boat, and I gave a speech,

512
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: and you know, I just want to make sure it's

513
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: always clear that we're just sharing with the youth, so

514
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: that the youth could have the benefit of our stories,

515
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: that they don't make the mistakes or find themselves in

516
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: the situations that we found ourselves in, because we're here

517
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: to make sure that they don't have to go through

518
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: what they went through. But yeah, it was the most

519
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: devastating period of my life. I don't think anything was

520
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: worse other than maybe being poor growing up in Brooklyn.

521
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: But I think even being incarcerated was worse because you

522
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: don't have your freedom and at least poverty. Yeah, it's terrible,

523
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: but I have the freedom to dream. I have the

524
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: freedom to pursue that and get out of property. I

525
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: did the whole ten There was not a day off.

526
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: I didn't get a furlough.

527
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: What's the first person you want to.

528
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: The first correctional facility was Clinton, Denimra Mumiyabu, Jamar Tupac

529
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: Shakur old dirty bastard. That's where they send all of

530
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: the sun of sam That's what they sent all of

531
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: the high profile people. And so I was an admin

532
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: seg my entire bid. So they have like an admin

533
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: seg block for all of the mafia bosses, the guys

534
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: that told on the mafia bosses.

535
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: Because you have profile. Yeah.

536
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 1: So, but then when I got to the end of

537
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: my incarceration, I asked to go to general population, to

538
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: go to a medium. Uh and they let me go

539
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: to medium, but like a medium where you can only

540
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: get in the medium if your honor and you know

541
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: you're conducting yourself in a way that you want to

542
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: go home. But even then it's always a risk, it's

543
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: always a toss up. But I don't want to stunt that.

544
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: Oh I did my bed in general pop uh No.

545
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: I was in admin s. I was isolated and as

546
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: I said, with the mob bosses, with some of the informants,

547
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: you know, people that were high profile that that had

548
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: heeneous crimes. Yeah, it was terrible. It was to go

549
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: what you go through and you got to do ten

550
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: and you like on top of the world like I did.

551
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: It was it was devastating. But you know, the first

552
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: night when I was in the tombs, I get on,

553
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: I kneeled down. I pray because I've been praying since

554
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: I got shot when I was fifteen or sixteen, So

555
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: prayer for me is a real thing. Now. I don't

556
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: pray because I'm holy. I don't pray because I am

557
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: a pontiff for some you know religious figure. I pray

558
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: to survive Brooklyn because Brooklyn was a war ground where

559
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: I grew up from Flatbush Church Avenue, which is while

560
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: performing at King's Theater is so surreal. Kingstadle was not

561
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: even operable back then. King's theadter was abandoned. But anyway,

562
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: I started praying from young just to survive Brooklyn. So

563
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: my first night in the tombs, I knelt down and

564
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: I prayed, and I said to God, you know, yeah,

565
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: I think Ted's rolling down my eyes. It was a lot.

566
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, all right, we're here, but check this out.

567
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: I was loyal to a scumbag. I'm going to be

568
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: loyal to you because before I went away, thanks to

569
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: woof and thanks to God, I prayed, just let me

570
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: get my album out, let me do my numbers, and

571
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: let me become shine. Because once I do that, then

572
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: I would have accomplished my dreams and I could take

573
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: care of Mama love. She'll be all right, And no

574
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: matter what, my name will live forever because I would

575
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: have been able to put out a classic album and

576
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: etch my name in the pantheons of hip hop. And

577
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: I knew I would live forever because I kept my

578
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: integrity and I didn't make up a live or I

579
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: didn't try to get my friends in trouble to get

580
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: myself out of trouble. And as a New York kid,

581
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: I knew that I would be a legend no matter what,

582
00:35:51,880 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: because right right, so that was done to you growing

583
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: up in New York. That meant everything. That meant everything,

584
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: like you can live with yourself if you're a rodent

585
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: and the rodent is not I'm not again, I'm not

586
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: trying to glorify these things. It's just to this day,

587
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: you're a rodent. If you get elected to the House

588
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: of Representatives and you're not honorable and you break your

589
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: oath of office and turn on your people, you're a rat.

590
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: So that's what I mean.

591
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 3: Exactly, the people.

592
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: You got to have integrity. But I prayed to God

593
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, I'm going to be loyal.

594
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: You gave me everything that I asked you for. I'm

595
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: an immigrant kid from Belize who was able to have

596
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: my wildest dreams come true, and I thank you for that.

597
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: I said that wild facing I was facing twenty five

598
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: years because I blew trial, and I said, you know,

599
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna turn on you. All I ask is,

600
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: just let me endure this. If I never sell another record,

601
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: if I have to do the whole ten, just allow

602
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: me to endure this. Let me not dine here, because

603
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: that's what people don't understand. You go to jail. You

604
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: might dine in jail. Even in ADMIN said editions ain't great.

605
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: Even but even in ADMIN said, someone may send a hit.

606
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: Someone that's doing life, you know, might wake up one

607
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: day and not take his meds and want to offer

608
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: you or you might have to take someone out. And

609
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: then definitely, when I got to the medium, it was

610
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: it was serious because you had guys in there doing

611
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: life that you know may have given a life back,

612
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: or guys in there that did thirty or had a

613
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: twenty five to life and did the twenty five and

614
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 1: now they're looking to go home. Any number can play

615
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: at any time, and so I pray to God to

616
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: just please allow me to endure, and I lose my

617
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: mind and and that's that's that's how I left it.

618
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: I said, if I never sell another record, if I'm

619
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: never famous again, it's okay. I'll be loyal to you.

620
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: And I kept praying. That's what I always tell people. Uh,

621
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: you got to be present every day. I was present

622
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: every day of my bid. I have been present every

623
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 1: day of my life up to this day, no matter

624
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: what is. And not just with prayer, but because you pray,

625
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: and then you got to listen because God talks to us.

626
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: So you can't pray and then do what you want

627
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: to do, because then God gonna pull back and be like,

628
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: all right, Champ, figure it out right, you got it.

629
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 4: For you when you came home because I saw y'all

630
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 4: hanging out, a little hanging out.

631
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: I send y'all in the Yeah.

632
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: You know, you know what happened. The first time I

633
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: reconcile with puff, I was in Jerusalem. So if you remember,

634
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: your man fifty used to get me real good with

635
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: those pictures when when I had that, when I had

636
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: the side curls and I had the religious but you know,

637
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: we was going at it right, so it was going, yeah,

638
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: it was all. So it was all, it was all,

639
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, all, yeah I was I was wild disrespectful

640
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, these the kick with disrespectful.

641
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 3: So we was.

642
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: But so I think we went at it while I

643
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: was away, and then when I came out, I think

644
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 1: I think that's why I lost my vocal cords, because

645
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 1: I'm answering a question right now. But when I came out,

646
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: I was on Tupac. But then I just did ten

647
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: years you know, spiritual you know, enduring praying, you know

648
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: it's like, And then I came out on my Tupac

649
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: thing from believe I didn't even get a chance to

650
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: come to the States because I got deported because I

651
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: didn't want to do it.

652
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: How did you feel like that was.

653
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 5: That was devast You know it's your last day because

654
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 5: I've seen it being locked up for ten years, little bit,

655
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 5: little baby bit, Yeah, two years most right. I've seen like,

656
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 5: you know, people be on their last day and I'm

657
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 5: like where they're going? Oh I and that's waiting for

658
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 5: How did that feel? Ten years and now you got

659
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 5: to leave the country.

660
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: Well, listen, my lawyers wanted me to fight for my

661
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: freedom and to get a bell pending my immigration case,

662
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,479
Speaker 1: which I believe I could have gotten, but I would

663
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: have had to stay a few more weeks. I couldn't

664
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: do it. So when you asked me how I felt,

665
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do another day in captivity. So

666
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: I told them, listen, send me to believe. I prefer

667
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: to be free, and I make my way back. I

668
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: make my way back. I didn't think it would take

669
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: thirteen years to make my way back.

670
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 3: But I thought a puff gave you a bag when

671
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: you came home.

672
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: No, no, So when you saw me, so to answer

673
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: your question, when you saw me, I was in Jerusalem.

674
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: So I was doing my spiritual journey.

675
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: I was.

676
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: Orthodox Jew throughout my entire incarceration, rapping to filling, keeping Shabbat.

677
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: I didn't even use the phone through anything. On the Sabbath,

678
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: I ate kolsher, I was wearing sit sits. I was

679
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: doing everything because being a Jew has no race. So

680
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: when people say, oh, how as a black person you

681
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: didn't become Muslim, is because Muslims believe in the Five

682
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: Books of Moses too. So religion is not a race.

683
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: Anybody could be a Jew. You just have to practice,

684
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: and you know, depending on what type of Jew you

685
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: want to be. It's like Catholicism or Christianity. There's Orthodox Christians,

686
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: there's anyway. When you saw me with puff, I was

687
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: in Jerusalem. I was going through my spiritual journey and

688
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: I just felt that forgiveness and moving on was something

689
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: I did for myself. I wasn't doing that for him,

690
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: and I was taking the hiatus from the industry. And

691
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: when I initially came out in two thousand and now,

692
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: I was going hard on everybody, on him, on fifty,

693
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: on trake, on raws, I was just arguing with everybody.

694
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: I was, man, it was terrible. But then I was

695
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: on well listen, So so it was two thousand and twelve,

696
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: I believe two thousand and yeah, twenty twelve, when I

697
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: reached out to him, I just cold I just made

698
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: a cold call. He actually had the same number and

699
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: he answered. I was like, listen, you know, uh, let's

700
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: sit down. And then when I went to see him

701
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: in Paris, that's when you see me with the with

702
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: the jew curls and the long robe and the high socks.

703
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: I was, I was on it. Yeah, So we went.

704
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: I went to the lam Maurice and we met at

705
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: the lam Maurice. And the interesting thing with Pugh, he's

706
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: so the Loice is like, hey, you know, I'm sorry man.

707
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: You know it was the lawyers. The lawyers made me

708
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: do it. But don't worry. We're gonna make everything right.

709
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, you know my brother.

710
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, So your question was you got a couple of minutes.

711
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on.

712
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: That's my question.

713
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: Everything that's definitely hold on, hold on, So hold on.

714
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: So you know, Cassie talks about in her in her lawsuit,

715
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: about violence and things happening, and then you know he

716
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: would spend a million half a million to you know,

717
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: cover everything up. And while I was there, everybody was

718
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: getting the rolex. That weekend, he was taking everybody for

719
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: Rolex and he took Cassie to get you know, he

720
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: blew like a half a million dollars on Cassie. So

721
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: I saw that, so I'm like, Okay, my rolex is

722
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: coming in the in the rye. No listen when they went,

723
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: when they went to get the rolexes. I think I

724
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: was late. I was late. No, no, no. I was

725
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: told that my rolex was going to be sent to me,

726
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: and yeah, my Rolex was gonna be sent to me

727
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: and Belize, and man, when I got to Belize, just

728
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: for Cassie, just hold on because I thought that I

729
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: thought I was going to get the role, get the million.

730
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna get my payment if Cassie

731
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: getting the half from my for my ten I was

732
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: saying a light one cash and then maybe one every

733
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: year for the rest of my life.

734
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 2: Girls before the Bros.

735
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: No, not not for the bro.

736
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: Girls, not for the bro.

737
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: That not for the brother.

738
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: I mean that's what he said.

739
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: Not for the bro, not for the bro, not for

740
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: the bro, but not for the bro that put you

741
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: in a position to have your freedom so that you

742
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: could spend a half a million girls. And so what

743
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying is even if it's a meal. And listen,

744
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: all right, you know what, I put you on the

745
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: payroll for bad Boy forever for the rest of your life.

746
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: You get a hundred grown.

747
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 5: But when you look at that, you you gotta know

748
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 5: from the beginning that that nigga wasn't he what he

749
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 5: was gonna do. You got j Lo, you and him

750
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 5: on the front page of the daily news every fucking day.

751
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 5: Sean is a young nigga from Brooklyn. Shoot a nigga. Yo,

752
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 5: Let that nigga eat the case.

753
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: But we got past that. We got past that past.

754
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: I saved his life. He acknowledges that year. You know,

755
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I messed up. I shouldn't have did it

756
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: the way that I did it. He's free for all

757
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: of the years to put himself in a position for

758
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: Sarah on John, for all the things that he did.

759
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: I lost ten years, and what could have been even

760
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: if I wasn't a billionaire, I could have made a huntred.

761
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: He could have gave you a million for every year

762
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: and that would have been light work. But that's just

763
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: how industry, do you know?

764
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: That's how he is right? And so what I'm saying

765
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: is fine. When I saw that it wasn't going that way.

766
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: You know. I went on my Brooklyn thing again. Even

767
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: in my religious phase, was like I was, you know, Brooklyn,

768
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: I went I went nuts and I was like, man, whatever.

769
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: But then I got to a point. I did get

770
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: to a point. I'll tell you this. I went nuts

771
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: on him. And then I got to a point like

772
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: around twenty fourteen twenty fifteen, I gone back to Belize

773
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: and that's when I got into politics. I got out

774
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: of the religious. I'm still like, I still light a

775
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: candle on Shabbat, I still wrap my ta filling every day.

776
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: I still fast on you, kipor I still you know,

777
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm Moses. I'm gonna always be Moses, and I always

778
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: apply to sciences and Moses. But I'm just about bringing

779
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: people together. We talked about that in the green room.

780
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm the elder Statesman and I'm Moses. I'm here to

781
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: bring everybody together. Moses married the Ethiopian. Moses's father was

782
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: one of the biggest Apollo Theists, and he brought everybody together. So,

783
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: you know, my thing. When I got to Belize and

784
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: I was focused on serving the people of Belieze, I

785
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: had gotten out of religion and I was focused on beliefs.

786
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: BELIEVEE believes because belize has so much potential, but not

787
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: the leaders that could take them to that potential. And

788
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: I knew that was my calling. And so while I

789
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: was going through that, I had the time in Jerusalem,

790
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: which was great. I would never change that for anything,

791
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: because Jerusalem is the center of the universe for Jews, Muslims, Christians, Catholics,

792
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: everybody goes to Jerusalem. And when I got to a

793
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: point of serving the people of beliefs before I got

794
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: elected in twenty twenty, so I served six years in

795
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: the community before I got elected. But I just got

796
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: to a point where I was like, you know what,

797
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: I need to let that go. No money, nothing, just

798
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: let that go. Just let that go. Just focus on

799
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: the people of beliefs and just let that go. Right.

800
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: It can't help, it can only hurt. Let all of

801
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: that go. Don't argue with anybody, don't have anything with anybody.

802
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: Focus on the people of beliefs. And I was better

803
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: off for it. But I let it go. Let it go.

804
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: I didn't let it go like, yeah, maybe I'll get

805
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: the million now. And so when you saw me with

806
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: him at the BT Awards, he begged me to do that.

807
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: He begged me to do that, and I was thinking

808
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: about Belize when I did that. If you remember the performance,

809
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: the biggest flag of Belieze that you ever are going

810
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: to see dropped on the stage and he's like, Belize, Belize.

811
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: And before the rico he was puff Daddy, one of

812
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: the most famous people on planet Earth. And so using

813
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: that stage to promote Belize was a no brainer. But

814
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't like, oh, it was you and your man.

815
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't that Thanksgiving. I wasn't at the Christmas party.

816
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't come to Belize. We wasn't wrolling

817
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: like that. But when I got elected to the House

818
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: of Representatives and I got my diplomatic visa, that's another thing.

819
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: He didn't get me a visa. I got a diplomatic visa.

820
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: But in all respect to him, when I was planning

821
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: my diplomatic tour as the opposition leader of the House

822
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: of Representatives in Belize, I reached out to him and

823
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: to listen to any politicians, anybody that you know, let

824
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: me know so I could put them on my itinerary,

825
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: because I want to meet with all these people for

826
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: the sake of believes so, in all fairness to him

827
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: and this guy uh Corey Corey Jacobs, they put me

828
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: with the a great conglomerate of musicians like Dallas Austin

829
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: and Sean Garrett, along with my sister to this day,

830
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: Erica I don't want to say her name wrong, Erica Thomas.

831
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: I believe she was a member of the Georgia UH

832
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: House of Representatives. So and so they have this thing

833
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: whereas members of Catherine uh Brutin and Dallas Austin, and

834
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: I think even like Shackasulu, and I think even maybe

835
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: Jermaine and Michael B. Cox were part of it at

836
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: one point, if not still along with you know, all

837
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: these members of the Georgia House and Senate. Right, So

838
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: that was great for me to meet with them on

839
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 1: behalf of Belize and put that together. So he did

840
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: put me with them. But you can't get a diplomatic

841
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: visa unless you're a member of the House of Representatives

842
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: and the State Department of Homeland Security don't play. I

843
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: have friends in governments throughout the Caribbean that are ministers

844
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: that don't get a diplomatic visa. So I had a

845
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: relationship with the State Department and Homeland Security for years

846
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: because I was the government's ambassador. But my Pops, who

847
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, him, and I have always had a shaky

848
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: relationship to this day. I don't really want to get

849
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: into that now that I'm gonna ease him, but he

850
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: when he was Prime Minister, he refused to appoint me

851
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: to the UN so that I could get the diplomatic

852
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: passport and visa. And as I said, in fairness to him,

853
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: the Americans let who they want to let come to

854
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: their country. So if they felt, you know what, now,

855
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: we're not going to give you the visa, they weren't,

856
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: so nobody could get you a diplomatic visa. And now

857
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: I am here on an extraordinary ability visa one because

858
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Speaker 1: I won Grammys, sold millions of records. And the time

859
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Speaker 1: of my deportation is sixteen years ago, so my band,

860
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: I think was like ten years. So I qualify on

861
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Speaker 1: all grounds. And then I've had a stellar record as

862
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: a diplomat, meeting with Republicans with Democrats. To this day,

863
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: I have friendships with Republicans. The ambassador that it just

864
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: got appointed by President Trump, he's from South Carolina and

865
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Speaker 1: I met him through a Democratic state member of the House,

866
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Speaker 1: because when I was honored in the South Carolina Capital,

867
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Speaker 1: I made sure to ask my Democratic friends to let

868
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Speaker 1: me meet the Republicans because governments change, minorities and majorities change,

869
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: and I wanted to be that no matter who is

870
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Speaker 1: the President, no matter who is the House majority leader,

871
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Speaker 1: I have a relationship for the sake of the Belizean people.

872
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: And that worked because even though President Biden, I got

873
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Speaker 1: my diplomatic visa on the President Biden, I got my

874
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: old one on the President Trump right. And if President

875
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Speaker 1: Trump asked me to come to Marrowl Logo tomorrow, I'll

876
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: go on behalf of the Belizean people, just as if

877
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: President Biden would have invited me to the White House

878
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 1: of come Lord support, No, No, I support. Hakim Jeffries

879
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: is my guy. He's he walred with Trump all the time.

880
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: But Hakem Jefferies just gave me a proclamation for my

881
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: twenty fifth anniversary of the Shine album. The Borough. President

882
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: Renoso is my brother. He just gave me the key

883
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: to Brooklyn on Saturday and declared April twenty fifth, Yeah

884
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: declared then.

885
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, not to cut you off, man, but

886
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 5: it's like you went through you went through being a

887
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 5: mega stall on one of the biggest labels ever, doing

888
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 5: ten years in prison. Right, didn't get deported, didn't turn

889
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 5: into politicians to shout.

890
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 1: To the police.

891
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 5: I heard, it's a beautiful country, my paradise. The family

892
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 5: just went there. They got beautiful beaches, beautiful land. I heard,

893
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 5: it's like, it's beautiful. And now you're like in the government,

894
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 5: you know, doing state stuff, Like what would you tell

895
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 5: the kids, because you know it's still crazy stuff.

896
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: Well, I lost my seat in the House of Representatives,

897
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: which is why I returned to the stage. I lost

898
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: my seat March twelfth, twenty twenty five. Last year, stole

899
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: a seat from me. My own people, the people in

900
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: my own political party stole the seat from me. But again,

901
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: never to sit there and cry and be sad, I

902
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 1: came up with a plan. I said, it's my twenty

903
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: fifth anniversary. I got a few years until the next elections.

904
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna celebrate my twenty fifth anniversary

905
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: a shine and I'm going to return to the stage.

906
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: And remember I put out the Hulu documentary again, respect

907
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: the fifty and Alex who did their Reckoning documentary. I

908
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: got the honorable documentary on Hulu that I put out

909
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. And when I put out that documentary,

910
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: I had told Disney that I was going to put

911
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: out an album, the Honorable Album, but I couldn't do

912
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: it because I was so focused on policy and being

913
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: the leader of the opposition, the leader of the opposition

914
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: and believes is the prime minister in waiting, so you're

915
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 1: an election away from being the prime minister of a country.

916
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: And I took that very serious on behalf of hip hop,

917
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: on behalf of myself, but on behalf of hip hop,

918
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: that I couldn't disappoint hip hop, that we get an

919
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: opportunity to do something that is beyond the culture and

920
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: we make the culture look bad because we're not prepared

921
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: because we're not proficient. So I said, you know what,

922
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to focus and be the best political leader

923
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: that I could be, and they'll come a time for

924
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: the music again, if that's what God wants. And so

925
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: when the opportunity came, I said, ah, you know what,

926
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: I got timed. I got time today. And that's how

927
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: it happened, because you know, getting to dret, I gotta

928
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: fly there. I got I wait a few days until

929
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: he's available. I got to come back. You know, the

930
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: relationship that I developed with Dre is like as a brother,

931
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: like as he's an idol, he's an icon. But it

932
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: went from the first meeting was leader the leader, and

933
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: then I developed a relationship with him, and I did

934
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: that with every producer that's on the album. I went

935
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: to see Jermaine, I went to see Swiss, I went

936
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: to see Timberland, I went to see Rizard. Right. I

937
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: didn't get to a Boy Wonder because he's in Canada,

938
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: but I went to see hip Boy.

939
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: Right.

940
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: But so for the kids that are listening, you are

941
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: whatever you work hard to be the teacher. The principal

942
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: said today to the kids at PS ninety two, disguise

943
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: the limit. I told him, no, the skies just step one.

944
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: There is no limit. After you reach the sky, then

945
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: you go to another planet, then you go to another planet,

946
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: then you just go throughout the universe. Then you just this.

947
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: There's no end to the universe. Scientifically, there's no end

948
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: to the universe. There's no end to what a young

949
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: person could do out there. But as you see my story,

950
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: it will be difficult, it will be painful. I'm not

951
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: gonna lie to you. I'm not gonna cap and have

952
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: you think that, Oh, just get up, brush your teeth,

953
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: say your prayer, listen to your mom and your teacher.

954
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: In life is going to be perfect. No, it's gonna

955
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: hit you hard. It's gonna be challenges, but you you

956
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: can face those challenges. You can overcome those challenges and

957
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: give yourself time.

958
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 4: You got these young ones out here, young boys shooting, fifteen,

959
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 4: fifteen year old dying. Yeah, I feel like sometimes it'd

960
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 4: be easy just for rappers and people like in opposition

961
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 4: to go stay out of trouble just but we gotta really,

962
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 4: I don't know.

963
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, but I lived that. I live that, and

964
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm living that now by even being here, I'm they

965
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: could tell you I'm here by myself. Back in the days,

966
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: we would have came here. No, you'd have came here.

967
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: We would have thought, Oh I would I don't even

968
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: think I would have came here. We would have No,

969
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, we weren't even made up. We weren't

970
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: even made up. Everybody would have had the smokers and

971
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: it'd be like, yeah, I'm in the town again. When

972
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: I run in them dudes, Well, you know.

973
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: It's so exciting.

974
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: That's what we were doing. We were showing at each other.

975
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: We were trying to kill each other back in the day.

976
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 3: Definitely so.

977
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: But this is where we're supposed to be. We deserve

978
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: to grow old, We deserve to take care of our grandkids.

979
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: You deserve that vacation with your family and beliez and

980
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: when you get there, it's like we roll out the

981
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: red carpet. We don't deserve to die early. You kids there.

982
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: That is not hip hop. And that's why I'm coming

983
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: back because I'm not coming back to rap about shooting

984
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: anybody or killing anybody. I'm coming back to rap about

985
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: this journey and my projection and developing believes and opening

986
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn chop House and and just doing all types

987
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: of fascinating things and you know, making love to my

988
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,959
Speaker 1: woman and just having a great adult contemporary hip hop

989
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: life world leader hic.

990
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 3: Right.

991
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: We deserve to be presidents, We deserve to be CEOs

992
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: and billionaires. This idea that in order to be African,

993
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: to be brown and black in America, you have to

994
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: be a gangster, you have to be a gang banger.

995
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: I reject that. I renounced that. That is a lie.

996
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: That is not true. You need to be alive, you

997
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: need to be successful, and you can be. America is

998
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: the greatest country on Earth. I love Belieze, but America

999
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: is a developed nation. Belieze, we're developing one day, believes

1000
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: will be the greatest. Belize has the greatest people because

1001
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: that is my home. But you guys understand, you gotta

1002
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying, right, I just mean as far

1003
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: as developed nations, you guys have so much opportunities. I pray,

1004
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: and that's why I wanted to be Prime Minister Belieze,

1005
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: and I still do so I could give the Belizeans

1006
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: the opportunity that you have in America. So for you

1007
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: young kids here in America, no no, no, no drug trafficker,

1008
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: gang banger, pimp, all of that that was our eraror

1009
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: that is like a dinosaur. You need to be alive,

1010
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: take advantage of these opportunities. AI is about to replace,

1011
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: is about to replace the human race, and you guys,

1012
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: if you keep thugging and bugging, gonna be the first

1013
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: that they make extinct. So please, And.

1014
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 5: It's cameras everywhere, so you can't do anything anyway. It's

1015
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 5: the real report. Mike Share subscribed we got Sean in

1016
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 5: the building. Make sure y'all check his documentary. Check out

1017
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 5: the new album he got talk them All, his life story,

1018
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 5: doing ten years in prison, hit albums, coming out and

1019
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 5: doing stuff with the government representative. It's on Sean Pope.

1020
01:01:54,680 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Brooklyn. Good luck surviving the offseason football fans.

1021
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: At first, I was afraid. I was petrified Football's over.

1022
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: It's like a part of me just died inside two

1023
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,919
Speaker 1: hundred these two foot bowls back.

1024
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 4: But tonight I won't just cry because I've got.

1025
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 5: Always to play, and that's the placement hard rock bed

1026
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 5: I we survived.

1027
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 4: Offered by this the midlell try before that must be

1028
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 4: twenty one plus in physically president in Florida to wage.

1029
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: Your terms of conditions apply.

1030
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 4: If you or someone you know as a family problem,

1031
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 4: please call one eight three three play Wise