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Speaker 1: I listen to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen. Hey, welcome to another episode of the

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Speaker 1: Blackouts podcast. I'm your host, Rod joined is always on

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Speaker 1: my co host Karen, and we're live on a Sunday

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Speaker 1: night and it's a big day because we have a guest.

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Speaker 1: We got some company over y'all. We got my girl

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Speaker 1: bossi ikby who I didn't even pull up I should

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Speaker 1: have just pulled up the what I read for this

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Speaker 1: too much friend? This is a regular shows. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: just it's just bossy. But now now I want to say,

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Speaker 1: like a ward Listen. She's the best selling New York

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Speaker 1: Times all the step here, she's a best vocalist alongside

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Speaker 1: Anita Baker. You know, I just want to give it

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Speaker 1: all the props out of glory. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: By?

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Speaker 1: How you doing? Oh you muted? Oh god? Her mic

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Speaker 1: is off. Guys, all right, we're off to a rip start.

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Speaker 1: This is this is some pure this too much drama

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Speaker 1: happening right now just here. Yeah, she was just talking.

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Speaker 1: She was literally rapping along there she is, Hey, Bozzi,

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Speaker 1: how you doing?

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Speaker 3: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Shut hold it like a podcast?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 1: Uh you can I mean, if you want to tell

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Speaker 1: us about these females and how you shouldn't take them.

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Speaker 3: On dates, women be shopping.

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Speaker 1: She was like, listen, the problem with women is they

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Speaker 1: have to eat food too. I don't understand they don't.

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Speaker 2: They don't grow vegetables, they don't slaughter cattle, nothing, useless.

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Speaker 1: When I go on a date, I'm ordering food. You

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Speaker 1: should be getting water. Okay. I don't understand why we

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Speaker 1: both got to eat.

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Speaker 3: As a man, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think that a woman who eats on the first

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Speaker 2: date is really serious about the relationship.

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Speaker 4: She in here taking up space. DAEs she take up

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Speaker 4: the space that I'm in.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna tell you right now, she eating food

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Speaker 1: on the first date, she gonna be eating food for

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Speaker 1: the rest of your life. I'm telling you right now, player, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, don't start them habits.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, once you start paying for food,

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Speaker 4: what else you're gonna pay for?

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Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's so good to see you. It's been a while too.

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Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, I was gonna say, I feel like

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Speaker 1: we talk every day. But you know, for the audience,

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Speaker 1: they haven't seen you on the show since uh Atlanta ended,

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Speaker 1: So you know, for a lot of them, they're and

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Speaker 1: they're always asking about you on the main show and

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Speaker 1: all this stuff, and this is kind of an impromptu situation.

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Speaker 1: We was deep in the text, y'all know how we

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Speaker 1: do saying everything that we can't say on the social

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Speaker 1: media's and if you were real when you do it too.

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Speaker 1: So and we was talking about like the Chris Rock

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Speaker 1: special the social media reaction to it, and she was like,

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Speaker 1: you know she was. Bossy watched it and she was like,

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Speaker 1: are you gonna talk about on the podcast? I was like,

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Speaker 1: I am. You want to hop on like and she

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Speaker 1: said yeah. So that is how this episode came together.

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Speaker 1: That's why BOSSI is here. We want to talk about

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Speaker 1: selective outrage the Netflix specially. I don't know how long

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Speaker 1: this episode is gonna be, Like it might be short

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Speaker 1: because you know, we're gonna see where the night takes us.

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Speaker 1: Me and Bossy have watched watched it. Karen has not.

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Speaker 1: So she's just gonna be emotionally supporting everybody and give me, y'all, y'all.

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Speaker 4: Know me not trying to be funny. I don't give

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Speaker 4: a fuck about not being in the loop.

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Speaker 5: Y'all know me.

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Speaker 4: I jumped in season two A Game of Thrones and

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Speaker 4: my black ass ain't we're bad sense?

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Speaker 5: So y'all know me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well you know. Also, yeah, Karen has never needed

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Speaker 1: to have an an information to have an opinion.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm still gonna have an opinion. And who said

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Speaker 5: I got to know all the facts.

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Speaker 4: I'm like to y'all, niggas, I'm I'm I'll just gonna

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Speaker 4: hear hot takes.

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Speaker 5: I'm hot rope.

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Speaker 1: So I'm here. So first of all, man, let's kind

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Speaker 1: of get into like some background on it. Where were

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Speaker 1: you the night? Will Smith Smack, Chris Rock? Okay, like

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Speaker 1: what was going on with you? Karen?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: What was going on with me? I'm gonna tell you truth.

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Speaker 5: I missed it.

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Speaker 4: Because I didn't watch it ward Oh wow, like you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm just you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, y'all.

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Speaker 5: You know y'all wanted a hot to take. That's a

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Speaker 5: hot take for me.

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Speaker 4: I only reason why I heard about it because all

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Speaker 4: the other niggas was mad and I kept seeing going

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Speaker 4: up and down the time, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: niggas is mad?

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Speaker 5: What happened?

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Speaker 4: And so then you know, I just went inquiring and uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, seeing it and stuff like that, and I

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Speaker 4: was like, oh, that's what happened. So that's how I

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Speaker 4: found out. You know, it wasn't like something that I

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Speaker 5: It was like, oh shit.

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Speaker 1: And we did talk about it on the show, if

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Speaker 1: it was I felt like everyday New Dudes was dropping

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Speaker 1: on the fact this nigga slept. Somebody was like like, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how Breaking News was having it, but

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Speaker 1: it really was. It would be like two days later,

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Speaker 1: it's like Will has apologized to Jada. Breaking News. We

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Speaker 1: just interrupted Channel eleven to tell you live on the scene.

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Speaker 1: Jaden Smith tweeted, Oh that's how we do. Then he

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Speaker 1: deleted it. So we'll be back with an update in

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Speaker 1: a few minutes.

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Speaker 5: So it will be back in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Bossie, what about you? How'd you like see the slab

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Speaker 1: and receive it and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: I watch the Oscars.

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Speaker 2: I watch all the well most of the awards on

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Speaker 2: all of them. But I watched the Oscars and I

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Speaker 3: But what I did catch was Will yelling keep my

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Speaker 3: wife's name all your mothersucking mouth.

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Speaker 2: And so I didn't see I heard that and that,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not even gonna lie. I know that everybody

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Speaker 3: For me, niggas don't get slapped all the time around

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Speaker 2: And but before I even saw the slacks, I didn't

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Speaker 2: I heard the thing and it I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Gonna lie it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say triggered. But it upset me because

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Speaker 2: I don't like that like yelling. People yelling.

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Speaker 3: That way, and the look on Will's.

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Speaker 2: Face it scared me, and I was really like, what

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Speaker 3: And I knew immediately it wasn't a bit.

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Speaker 2: I knew immediately it wasn't a bit, just just based

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Speaker 2: Hopped on Twitter, saw people talking about it, immediately found

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Speaker 2: whole thing, And I'm not gonna lie. It upset me.

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Speaker 2: I don't like seeing stuff like that. I don't see it.

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Speaker 2: I don't like seeing it on just like a basic level.

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Speaker 2: I don't like seeing it on a national level. I

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Speaker 3: That are black people.

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Speaker 2: That that I that I enjoyed to a certain extent.

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Speaker 2: And then what upset me further was the was like

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Speaker 3: I was I was sick to my stomach. I'm not

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Speaker 3: even gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 1: My first reaction that my first reaction, like with almost

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Speaker 1: all things that are fucked up, is I laughed because

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Speaker 1: it's just I can't help it. It's not on purpose.

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Speaker 1: It's not even like it's the way that you you

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Speaker 1: laugh when someone tickles you because you can't help it,

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Speaker 1: even if you're like, don't touch me, right. So when

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Speaker 1: like I can't what am I? I couldn't honestly, God,

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Speaker 1: I feel like me, you, Chris Rock, Jada, everybody in

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Speaker 1: the crowd, everybody watch on TV. All of us took

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Speaker 1: about sixty seconds after the slap to go, oh wait,

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Speaker 1: Will Smith actually slapped Chris Rock? Because as you see it,

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Speaker 1: it's like it's not it's not real. It didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: You're like no, because Will Smith would never and he's

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Speaker 1: and then I'm like, I think Will Smith smack Chris Rock?

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Speaker 2: That was actually another part of it too, because if

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Speaker 2: I don't think that I would have been because, like you,

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Speaker 3: I was like, something is wrong with him, like I

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Speaker 3: you know, mental health. Marry was like is he having

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Speaker 3: a breakdown? Like what the fuck is happening here? I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't immediately start thinking.

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Speaker 1: Even when people to deserve it, when people were saying

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Speaker 1: shit like I can't believe Chris did whoop his ass

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Speaker 1: or Chris. I can't believe Chris didn't duck it. I

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Speaker 1: was like, because he was thinking what we were thinking,

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Speaker 1: which is, there's no way on earth this man would

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Speaker 1: do something violent to me. He's will Smith and sorry.

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Speaker 3: Sorry one more time.

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Speaker 2: So just to also, he has a learning disability that

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's another reason why.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something that uh was he quickly dismissed. Anytime

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Speaker 1: that's right up around Chris Rock, people are like, cause,

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Speaker 1: you know, people are kind of black and white, very simple.

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Speaker 1: They want really crisp narratives. And so it's like, in

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Speaker 1: order for Chris Rock to be the bully who deserved

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Speaker 1: to get hit, he has to have no weaknesses, impediments,

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Speaker 1: no extenuating circumstances. He has to be perfect, Like he

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Speaker 1: is the six foot eight bully that deserve to get punched.

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Speaker 1: He's Goliath in this situation. So all right, So what

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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't realize, or maybe not a lot,

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Speaker 1: but what I was seeing on Twitter, This special has

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Speaker 1: been planned for several years. Chris Rock did a special

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Speaker 1: with Netflix called Tambourine. This is part of that deal.

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Speaker 1: It was for multiple specials this, so there were some

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Speaker 1: people saying stuff like he got a special because uh,

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Speaker 1: she Will Smith slapped him and stuff that's not true.

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Speaker 5: Like he's not Chris fucking Rock right right.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't done like any real media about it. He

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Speaker 5: Like live television, it.

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Speaker 4: Sign up for a motherfucking premium by older goddamn T shirts,

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Speaker 2: last one, then that's probably the one that I watched.

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00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: So I wasn't planning on watching it, even when I

439
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 2: saw people talking about it. I wasn't playing on watching

440
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 2: it up until today when I told you, I guess

441
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch it when I when I do laundry.

442
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:31,239
Speaker 3: It was for me.

443
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 2: What got me to watch it was me knowing I

444
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 2: was like this that there's no possible way that was

445
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: the joke, do you know what I mean? Like, that's

446
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 2: what I was like, Okay, this, I need to watch

447
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 2: it to know what the joke is because you saying

448
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 2: that he's judging people who.

449
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 3: Don't wear shirts or whatever.

450
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 2: The fucking and two years ago he did jiu jitsu

451
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: and he took his shirt, Like what the fuck are

452
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 2: you talking about? I was like, that can't be a joke.

453
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 2: So I wanted to go and watch and see what

454
00:21:58,960 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 2: the joke.

455
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: The same thing happened. The same thing happens to me

456
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 1: all the time, Like, uh, there's albums I've only listened

457
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 1: to and ended up liking because people were lying on

458
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: them and and it's and it's weird because it serves

459
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: two purposes. I don't think they mean to do it,

460
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: but one, you're lying, so you're making me curious because

461
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 1: you're making it trans and shit. And then two you

462
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 1: almost always end up making the bar so low that

463
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: I end up having a great time. Yeah, this happened

464
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: with Drake's fucking whatever, that whatever, that type of album

465
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: you put out that was like just yeah, the one

466
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: that was just all vibes, you know, that one was Yo.

467
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: That albe was pretty good, like like they shitted on

468
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: the album so hard. I was like, oh God. Then

469
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: Beyonce came out there's like this is what he was

470
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: trying to do. I was like, oh, damn, I guess

471
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: it's whack. I went listening. I'm like, Yo, this is

472
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 1: the perfect like hop in the shower music, Like this

473
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: is just vibe and he wasn't even trying to do

474
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: more than that. And I was like, well, ship, I

475
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: guess I like this now. I can't tell nobody. But

476
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: the thing with this is I'm with you. Like, I mean,

477
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of stand up. I watched a lot

478
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: of it on Netflix, all that stuff. You know. I

479
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: just I watched Gabrielle I Gleasias stand up recently.

480
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: You know it's funny.

481
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very funny man, And you know, Kevin Hart

482
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: very funny.

483
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 2: You know.

484
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: Like there's just like there's people that Twitter hates, but

485
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: there's a reason they fill up stadiums, you know what

486
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, don't.

487
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 4: Make hates, like like like you know, we're talking about

488
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 4: like baseball, football stadiums.

489
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 3: They like Kevin Hart. Just I'm pointing behind me.

490
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart just sold out a stadium in Cape Town,

491
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: South Africa, like.

492
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Speaker 1: Right for the most unfunny nigga in the world. But

493
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: I watched Tambourine and similarly felt like it was meant

494
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: like it wasn't terrible, but it was. It just reminded

495
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: me of how old we're getting. I was just like, oh,

496
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: this is my age now. He still making references to

497
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: stuff that was in my formative years, and he still

498
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: kind of has like the same mentality and point of view.

499
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: It's like an R and B artist that is just

500
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: playing their hits, you know, and this is the kind

501
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: of music they make. And so that one felt that

502
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: way to me. This one felt more inspired, and I'm

503
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: assuming because the current events, it was more inspired, like

504
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: some shit happened to him and everybody wanted to see

505
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: what happened. So it felt more inspired than Tambourine to me.

506
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Speaker 2: And when you think about it, one of the things,

507
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: how do I come back? You're back when you think

508
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: about it. The problem, like I said before, that I

509
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 2: have with a lot of our age and comedians is

510
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 2: that their experiences that they had when they first started,

511
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: they just can't possibly have anymore. So their perspective, their

512
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 2: point of view, the things that they talk about, like,

513
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: they're just not relatable and they're trying to make it relate,

514
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 2: but it's not a I think that he did a

515
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: really good job of making that rich Nigga, I'm rich,

516
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: but you know, he did a really good This.

517
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: Is the best version of I made it, and I'm

518
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: black and I'm rich, and I want my kids to

519
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: be like black rich kids, Like this is the best

520
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: version of that I've heard since probably I think Marlon

521
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: Wayne's has some good stuff on it a while ago.

522
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's this. It was funny as shit this time.

523
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, it's so so and I feel like

524
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: I say this, people are like, well, it helped him,

525
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: But I do think that it was a new experience

526
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: and he had to like tap into something else in

527
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: order to get you know, what we saw.

528
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Speaker 3: I thought it was fantastic.

529
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: Now, I mean, I'm not to say fantastic, but to me,

530
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 2: it was a solid like eight and a half out

531
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Speaker 2: of ten.

532
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was good too. Here's what I'll

533
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: say too. I find it interesting the way we're reframing

534
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: the Chris Rock legacy as and maybe people just got

535
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: tired of it, which is fine, but as if like

536
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: we've discovered that he's misogynistic, we've discovered that he's offensive,

537
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: We've discovered that he has respectability. We knew this when

538
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: we loved him. He also had this. It feels like

539
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: going to a Mary J. Blige concert in twenty twenty

540
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: three and being like, when is this bitch gonna get

541
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: over these men? It's like, fam, this is this is

542
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: her lane. Even if she was happy in life, she

543
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: fitish sing about some niggas dogging her out. That's why

544
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: you buy the ticket. You don't buy the ticket. I'm

545
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: happy married, don't let a lot of people down. There's

546
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: been a lot of happy albums where you're like, it

547
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: wasn't hitting the same as when Jojo was dogging her

548
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: ass out, so to it feels like a weird slight

549
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: of hand to try to get. However, many specials in

550
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: to be like, damn this niggas still talking about cheating

551
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: on women, like that's what he talks about it wouldn't

552
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: be genuine if he came out and was not talking

553
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: about it.

554
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Speaker 2: So I just wanted to I have I have a

555
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 2: question for you because this is something that I was

556
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: thinking about after I watched the special.

557
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: What is the.

558
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: Currency in that level of revisionist history? Because as I

559
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 2: was as I was watching and tweeting, I remembered that

560
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: between Eddie and Chris there was a gap.

561
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: There was no there were no.

562
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: Black comedian superstars, and it was Chris Rock Uh was

563
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: it bigger?

564
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: And Deafer or is it? And and Bring the Pain?

565
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: Those were huge, like absolutely fucking huge, Like we hadn't

566
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: seen that and we didn't even say with Eddie because

567
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: there was just no real capacity for it.

568
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: There was no way for it to exist in that way.

569
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: So it was Chris and then Chris ushered in, Yeah,

570
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: Dave and Kat and Kevin like all of that like

571
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: came after him.

572
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to understand what the.

573
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: What the currency is in pretending not just him, because

574
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 2: we see it all the time when they don't like somebody, Like,

575
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: what is it?

576
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: What do we get out of that? Because because I

577
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 3: feel like if a if.

578
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: A white writer or something was like completely erased Chris

579
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: from like a list of some sort, right, I mean

580
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: maybe not now.

581
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: Well, I think if Rolling Stone came out with a

582
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: list tomorrow and it said the top twenty five stand

583
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: ups of all time and Chris Rock wasn't on it,

584
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: you would see a lot of black people who were

585
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: just saying he was never funny, being like this a

586
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: racist ass list, and these white people don't know what

587
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: they're talking about. But here's my thing. Uh, And I

588
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: can't believe we're going this deep already, but this is

589
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: what we do, Okay. But I think the currency in

590
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: that shit is the same currency that is like q

591
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: A non shit. It's as an individual person in brand,

592
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: how can I manipulate people with my own set of

593
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: facts and who will signal back to me that they

594
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 1: are under my influence? Because saying something as ridiculous as

595
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: Chris Robe was never funny, like he made all this

596
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: money and had all this impact and has such a

597
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: good standing within the community of black comedian specifically, it's

598
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: saying that and then having someone say it back to

599
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: you is more about you and wanting to say look

600
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: at me, look at me. When I tweet out such

601
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: and such these motherfuckers believe anything because because there can't

602
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: be any real there's no reality to it. But if

603
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: you're willing to be enthralled, and I've seen people do that,

604
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: you know, and I think it's like people are upset,

605
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: but it's also still about them ultimately. It's what he

606
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 1: said in a special about how the currency is attention.

607
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: What's more, what gives you more attention than that? You know,

608
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: that was a really good bit.

609
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I agree, I do agree that that is that.

610
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 4: And also for a lot of people, it's nostalgia. And

611
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 4: that's a piece of it because you know a lot

612
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 4: of these people talking depending on their age, was all

613
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 4: live doing that time, right, and so you know, to them,

614
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 4: they can kind of pick and choose and create their

615
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 4: own realities. And that's what I realized about being online

616
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: and dealing with people. People create their own realities, not

617
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 4: the real reality, the reality in their own mind, the

618
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: reality that they've made up, be it with their narcissism,

619
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 4: be it with their wherever their headspace is at the time,

620
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 4: whatever it is, they've created their own reality and they

621
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 4: go online and they project and whatever their reality is,

622
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 4: you have to accept that reality as a real reality.

623
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 4: And if you reject it, it's something wrong with you

624
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 4: for rejecting the reality that they created, which is not real.

625
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 4: And so what I've realized I cannot talk to somebody

626
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: that has created a reality that it is not a

627
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 4: real reality, because when we start the conversation, we are

628
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 4: not on the same playing level.

629
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Speaker 5: You are up in the moons and I'm on Earth.

630
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 5: What are we talking about?

631
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Speaker 2: A couple of A couple of weeks ago, maybe a

632
00:30:54,680 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: week ago, I tweeted the problem with online discourse that

633
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: somebody will get upset with you at what they either

634
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: think you said or what they want you to up said.

635
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: So now you're trying to prove that you didn't say something.

636
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: That they've already concluded, and they're not even really telling

637
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: you what they think you said.

638
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: Really, it's just the implied that you said blah blah blah.

639
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: So when you're trying to argue with somebody or trying to, no,

640
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: not even argue, when you're trying to defend yourself against

641
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 2: what somebody thinks, and then you're trying to defend yourself

642
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: that you.

643
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: Didn't think that thing, there's no possible way to win.

644
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: So the more you argue, the more, it looks like

645
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: you're just being defensive because they've taken this righteous indignation,

646
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: this moral superiority, So anything you say against that is

647
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: somehow on par with whatever evil they've decided that you are.

648
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: There's no way to win an argument with that. And

649
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: then what happens, and I think Ashley Rehn they said this.

650
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: What happens is that people watching the argument will react

651
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: based on the comments and not ever go back to

652
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: see what was actually said. So you either get defeated

653
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: and decide to like, fuck it that, or you just

654
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: keep arguing and have to mute it or apologize.

655
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: I've seen people apologists.

656
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 5: I'm like, what you apologize?

657
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: This is what's interesting is I think also the reason

658
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: you get stuff like he was never funny, I never

659
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: liked him, blah blah blah is And this is something

660
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: we've talked about on the show. Often there is camaraderie

661
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: within a shared hate community. People are bonding now over

662
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: shared hate, and if you don't signal to that, you're

663
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: either outcast from the group, or you deal with the admonishment,

664
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: or you become part of the people we hate. So

665
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: I think people are scared of that. It's not people

666
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: are afraid to be real about some shit, like even

667
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: when people like I've seen people that like this special

668
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: who tentatively liked it, you see what I'm saying, Like

669
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: they're like you can see them tweeting about how funny

670
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: it was that and then they wait to see like

671
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 1: if black Twitter gonna cook him. Oh it's bad delete,

672
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: I hate you know whatever. But the share hate can

673
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: anything drives me up a wall because it becomes a

674
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: self fulfilling prophecy where everything the person does must be bad.

675
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: I've never seen some shit where like no, I lie,

676
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: I have seen it before. Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift gets

677
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: boguarded by Kanye West on the stage and Black people

678
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: turned on her for years. It took like even past

679
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: like some of the stuff that people find problematic with Kanye,

680
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: they were still on some like fuck Taylor Swift, and

681
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: it really took like Kanye going like magga to them

682
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: for them to be like okay, you know. And of

683
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: course Taylor Swift, who was a younger, very young girl,

684
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: a woman at the time, come yeah, it took her

685
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: growing up into this woman that you almost can't deny,

686
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: Like it's like she's picking the right side of every

687
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: fucking thing, and she's outspoken about it, so you can't

688
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: deny it. I feel like that's kind of low key

689
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: what happened to Chris to where like because we don't

690
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: want to feel any empathy or sympathy for him being slapped,

691
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: we have vilified to do into like the word he's

692
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: hitler with a mic, rather than just being like I

693
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: don't like him, or I didn't like his stand up,

694
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: or I didn't like that joke he made. It's turned

695
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: into like it's not even that he specifically picked Baltimore

696
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: to like take a shot at Jada and he did

697
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: it for white.

698
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: People ago he turned down and.

699
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: Right and he did it, and he did it for

700
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: he did it for white people in a room full

701
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: of black people. Like it's, you know, just weird stuff

702
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily line up neatly. But if everything if

703
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: you think everything he does is bad, you'll find a

704
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: way to make everything he did he did into a

705
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: bad thing. And I think that's a huge part of it.

706
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 4: Yes, And also to go back a little bit, also,

707
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 4: whenever people talk about these things, they have a script

708
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 4: and they follow that script to the t and anything

709
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 4: that you put this off that script. They reroute back

710
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 4: to that script because they cannot defend and they don't

711
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 4: have any logic or explanation for like them real real

712
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 4: hard questions where you'll be like, well, this don't make

713
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 4: no sense, and what about this?

714
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 5: And what about this? And so when you start hitting

715
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 5: those people.

716
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: With facts, they're gonna fuck your facts and they stick

717
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 4: to the script.

718
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't, like, I don't even want to

719
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: engage them, because I really do. I've seen enough quote

720
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: unquote engagement and I think, like, like you said in

721
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: the special, the engagement just counts as attention. The attention

722
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: is currency. They don't actually care to actually engage with you.

723
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: They don't really want to examine themselves or anything. That

724
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: being said, I have felt it the other way too, Right,

725
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: there are some people who are so like pro Chris

726
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: that it's like they're they hate Jada Pinkett Smith for

727
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: some fucking reason. Like I have experienced that too. I

728
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: don't want to like make this shit seem like it's

729
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: one way. I find both sides to.

730
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 3: Be oh, absolutely terrible.

731
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's extremes on both sides, Like yeah, it makes sense,

732
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 4: and if you're somebody that's in the middle.

733
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 5: They act like you're a lunatic for being in the middle.

734
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 5: Come on, but both shit is great.

735
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: Like even with the stuff where for years now with

736
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: the red table talk, which this is the irony here,

737
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: but the years of the red Table talk, like so

738
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: many people hated her, and they specifically hated her because

739
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: of how it may will look. Many of the same

740
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: people who are now saying they have her back and

741
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: they're talking bad about Chris Rock and bringing up her alopecia.

742
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: These are the same people I saw call her predator

743
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: for the August I've seeing the thing yo, the section, Yeah.

744
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: That whole section we've been Chris did. I was like,

745
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: y'all niggas is quiet because everything they did it saying

746
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 2: up until March seventh, twenty twenty.

747
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: Two, they did every single thing. I've seen so many

748
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: of those saying people say they need to get a divorce.

749
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: She better stop doing that show. She embarrassed him, she

750
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: made him a cug same people then diagram, complete fucking

751
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: circle all field in. It's not some outside group of people.

752
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: Many of the same people did this shit, and I

753
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: found it so interesting to see them last night suddenly

754
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: ignored their own predator stuff that they said ignored the

755
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: grooming allegations to you know, like, it just feels like

756
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: a weird thing.

757
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: That her son's friend. Yes, Jesus Christ, like it just

758
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: laid it out. It just laid it out. And here's

759
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 2: the thing too, when people talk about faults, I don't

760
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: understand why there needs to be a fault.

761
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

762
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: This man got slapped on national television, live, national television.

763
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: That's not his fault. It's not Jada's fault that he

764
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: got slapped. The only person who did the thing.

765
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 3: Was Will Smith.

766
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: Will Smith fucked up and Will Smith. And here's another thing.

767
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: We talked about this too. Will Smith knows he fucked up.

768
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: He feels terrible, He still feels terrible. He apologized, He

769
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 2: put it in context of his childhood and all that stuff.

770
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 3: That's another thing I'm going back and forth.

771
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: I knew about Chris Rock's learning disability about a year

772
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: or two before the thing happened. I also started, like

773
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: because I follow Will Smith on YouTube when you start

774
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: doing YouTube, so I knew the stuff that was in

775
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: his book as well.

776
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: So I knew that like that he's fucked up, like

777
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: the Will that we know he's fucked up.

778
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 2: So the fact that he did this thing that people

779
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: won't call fucked up and he's still trying to like

780
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: process it and then apologize for it.

781
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: Knew that it was the wrong thing to do at

782
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: the wrong time.

783
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: Knew all these different things that we say we want

784
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: people to responsibility and holdingselves accountable for.

785
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 3: And you're like, no, no, no, no, no.

786
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: This is one of the reasons that this is one

787
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: of the reasons that I don't think online support counts

788
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: as support right now.

789
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 5: You know, he could change to drop of a dime.

790
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's free, Britney, And then we're calling the cops

791
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: on Britney's fears because we want to do a wellness

792
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: check because she hadn't made a twigt in a while,

793
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: you know. And I think online support is shit. Like

794
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: a man was clearly out of control. I saw a

795
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: man that was in his own trauma when Will Smith

796
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: hit Chris Rock. I saw a man that was he

797
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,479
Speaker 1: was living his worst nightmares. He was doing it, and

798
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: I said, he'll never be able to truly recover from

799
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: that because he's spent his whole life trying to be

800
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: seen a certain way. And then this other Will that

801
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: he don't want the world to know hopped out real quick,

802
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: and he's afraid that that people will He's afraid of

803
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: not only being that guy, he's afraid of people thinking

804
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: he's that guy. So it's like a double nightmare for him.

805
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: And he's trying to do image rehab. He's apologized. If

806
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: a motherfucker tell you I was wrong, I don't even

807
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: know what the argument is to try to tell him, no,

808
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: Chris Rod needs to be slapped again. Like, clearly it

809
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: had a toll on this man. It fucked up his career.

810
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: So when he.

811
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: Even when he went to accept the oscar, is this

812
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 2: something that he's wanted? Like he's been chasing this oscar

813
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: his entire career. He finally gets it, he gets on

814
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: stage and.

815
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: He's still not in it. Like he's still not he's

816
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 3: still not able to live. He's still trying to Here's

817
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 3: here's the thing.

818
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: He was still trying to get back the Will Smith

819
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: that we all thought he was an hour before. He

820
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: was still in this like for lack of a better

821
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: trauma response, where he was like, I need them to

822
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 2: like me again. How are they going to like me again?

823
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: Let me let me say it's because Richard Williams protected

824
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: his face like this was all lying this, it's all

825
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: somebody who knew that something that they've done, something that

826
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: was out of character for them, that they've been afraid

827
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: of becoming like their father. Yeah, the entire their entire life,

828
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: they've been running for this and one moment completely destroyed

829
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: that in his mind. And he's dealing with that. So

830
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: how are you watching this man accept this awards as

831
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 2: completely and when we use the gift all the time,

832
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: like completely just like shattered behind his eyes and still

833
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 2: be like, oh, it's all good.

834
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: He did it for a noble reason.

835
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: Right, we're supporting.

836
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: That's why you're supporting what's destroying him.

837
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: That's why I say it's not really support, right because

838
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: if you love that man, right, if it was me,

839
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: If somehow I get nominated for a fucking in me

840
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 1: and I'm slapping some motherfuck on stage, anybody that knows

841
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: me and loves me is gonna be in my phone

842
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: in my ear, like what's wrong? What happened? I know

843
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: you didn't want to do that, So what's going on on?

844
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: How can I help? Right? But online support is like

845
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: you know, rooting for football games, my team is winning,

846
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: like it's not a you're not even a real person,

847
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: You're Will Smith TM to them. So I think that's that.

848
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: That's interesting, I think. And we'll get to the Chris

849
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: parties too. Matter of fact, Yeah, I think here's a

850
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: good part of gett into Chris. This special felt that

851
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: last ten minutes felt like Chris getting his lick back.

852
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: You know, that was the kid that if you know

853
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: anything about Chris Rock, very diminutive, kid picked on, grew

854
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: up in a rough neighborhood. That was the kid that

855
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: gets beat up by the bully and then shit has

856
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: happened to me before, and you get home and you're

857
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: talking to your brother or you're talking to your friend Damien,

858
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: and you just like, man, I should I would have

859
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: hit that. I should have said this, and then I

860
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: should have did that. That's what last night felt to me,

861
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: a little like the little boy was stealing Chris and

862
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: he hasn't truly reconciled with it, because I mean, it's

863
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: only been a year, Like people are saying it's been

864
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: a year, like then' like like that's a long time,

865
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: Like it's only been a year. I think he still

866
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: hasn't truly found like the healthiest place to talk about it.

867
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: But at least he is talking about it on stage.

868
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: But it's it was interesting to see like that side

869
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: of him get to come out, because he clearly was like,

870
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: I've been holding this in. He felt nervous, he felt

871
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: nervous energy, like when he fucked up the first joke

872
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: going into that gath. I said, oh, he's he's coming

873
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: in hot, and I know people made mistakes, and you know,

874
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: my friend called me this morning. He's like a huge

875
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: like on Chris Rock side guy, older black dude, and like,

876
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to say he's on, like Chris Rock

877
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: can do no wrong, but he's like very supportive of

878
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: whatever Chris is saying and doing. And I was like, yeah,

879
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: I think he was nervous and he's like, no, no, no, comedians,

880
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: it's live. And I said yeah, but you could feel

881
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: like it meant something to him that he was finally

882
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: about to do this in front of everybody and have

883
00:43:59,320 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: a slay.

884
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: You could it was like almost vibrating off of him,

885
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: like he was like he was keyed up. And the thing,

886
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to what you said about it

887
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: only being year. It's only been a year, but it's

888
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: also been forty you know what I mean, Like it's

889
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: been forty years.

890
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 3: Of him having to deal with this.

891
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: And I think I said in the text, like when

892
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: weuxtapose this with the thing that happened with Michael B.

893
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: Jordan earlier, people understood that, right. So, but the thing,

894
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: the difference between Michael B. Jordan's bullies and Chris Rock's

895
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: bully is that Chris.

896
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: Rock or no Michael B.

897
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: Jordan knows for facts and snacks that he turned out

898
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 2: better than his bullies.

899
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: Like he is out here winning, so he could be like, yeah,

900
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 3: how's that corner kid?

901
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 6: Right?

902
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 3: Like he can do that because he's got that.

903
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 2: He's the persona he's developed for himself is like this

904
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: sexiest man alive.

905
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: All the girls want him like da da da. He won.

906
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: But I don't think.

907
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: Chris Rock feels like he's beat his bullies. I feel

908
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: like something like this still happening to him. He's rich,

909
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: he's famous, he's been famous for a really long time.

910
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: He fought people loved him and something like this, some

911
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: high school shit happened to him and he's still not

912
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: getting support as well.

913
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: Also, it's it's not even just not getting support, right,

914
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: it's he watched the people's support the dude to hit him,

915
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: Like he watched that dude get comforted by Black Hollywood

916
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: during the show. During commercial breaks, he watched uh the

917
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: man winter Oscar and give a speech and people applaud

918
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: him at their hour hour after he slapped this dude. Yeah,

919
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: you know he watched I mean shit, if he has

920
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: any indication of what's happening on social media, he watched

921
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are against violence and for

922
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: prison abolition say he deserves to be slapped, and worship

923
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: should have happened to him and all this stuff. So

924
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure that I'm just gonna say, I'm sure that

925
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: mentally it's been rough and he's low key held it

926
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: in except for his job, which is stand up. He

927
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: only's been talking about it for his job. I don't

928
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: know if he's been doing therapy or not, but it

929
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: seems like this was pent up and that's why it

930
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: came out that way too.

931
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody in the chat said that he he stepped

932
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: on a lot of jokes, Like I noticed that they

933
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: were jokes that he was kind of like could have

934
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 2: landed harder and had the kind of rushed towards it

935
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: because I think he was trying to get to the end.

936
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: But what I also think that people aren't. I mean,

937
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if they are, they're not. But like,

938
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: he also watched his friends get beaten up for defending

939
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: him or feeling bad.

940
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: For him, Like can you imagine what that feeling like?

941
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 2: Not not only are people are like fuck you, but

942
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: fuck anybody who says they like you and that your

943
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: friends of forty.

944
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: Brother Wanda Sights could Wanda Sights couldn't say singing her

945
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: friend and mentor get hit on age that the oscars

946
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: was traumatic to her. People were trying to like fucking

947
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: cancel Wander Sikes for saying that because they've made their

948
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 1: own reality. It just exists only on Twitter. It's not real.

949
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: I knew it wasn't real when my mom called me

950
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: the next day and she was basically upset about Will Smith.

951
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: And that's when they kicked in. Was like, oh, yeah,

952
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: Twitter's not real. What the fuck was I thinking? That

953
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: was crazy?

954
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 2: Right?

955
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: That was crazy? She's like, yeah, you know, it's ridiculous

956
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: that he did that. And it's in this environment where

957
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: you're getting celebrated and you know where black people are

958
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: trying to beat together and shit, and like you know

959
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: that that's the job of the people on stage. They

960
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: picked on everybody in the fucking crowd like she was.

961
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: She was so on point, and that snapped me back

962
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,479
Speaker 1: to reality. And I haven't looked at it the same

963
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: since I've been like, yet, Will was wrong. You don't

964
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: have to like the joke, which was not a joke

965
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: about alopecia, even though I've seen people turn it into

966
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: a joke about alopecia. That was not what happened. It

967
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: was he did not know she had alopecia, and it

968
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: was a joke.

969
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, observational comic observed balld and it was a bad joke.

970
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: It was a it was a dated joke, but it

971
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 3: wasn't to.

972
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: Me, it's no different than you know, because he's vamping.

973
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 1: Obviously they didn't have anything in the script at the time,

974
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: and he wasn't hosting. He was just a presenter and

975
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: they just be in your ear like, hey, we need

976
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. And so he's a comedian, they expect him

977
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: to be able to do that shit. Now, I'm not

978
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: saying like there could have been a bunch of subliminal,

979
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: subconscious shit going on. I'm not in that nigga's head

980
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: like that, but but to make it seem like this

981
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: nigga walked on stage and like pointed at her head

982
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: and said, you gotta have a piece of bitch. That's

983
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: that's what it has become on Twitter. And it's just

984
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: it was not that. It was not that.

985
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 5: It was not that at all.

986
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 4: And also I think and for me on the outside

987
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 4: looking gain, people act like this slap did not happen

988
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 4: on the world stage like everybody and they mama scene, all.

989
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: These getting mad.

990
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 4: When you got slapped, it was in your neighborhood and

991
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 4: your backyard and depend on your age prior to the internet.

992
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, your get over your get over it was okay

993
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: because you were allowed to get over it. This nigame,

994
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: even after the special, he won't be allowed to get

995
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: over it. We're gonna be asking him about this slab

996
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: for the rest of his fucking.

997
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 4: Life, right, because it's one of those things where people

998
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 4: people underestimate and I know we all do it because

999
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 4: you know they're funner than.

1000
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 5: Me, the means, the gifts.

1001
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 4: Like all that shit. Well, if they're out there, y'all,

1002
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 4: and guess what when you got smacked. Guess what, Ain't

1003
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 4: no gifts about you, ain't no means about you. Ain't

1004
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 4: nobody consistently pull that up every time you go on

1005
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 4: your job interview. Don't nobody be like, and what about

1006
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 4: that slab? You know you were allowed to process it,

1007
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 4: You are allowed to get over it. You're allowed to

1008
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 4: go through the proper shit, and you know he deserves

1009
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 4: the same.

1010
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: Right one more thing, Oh go ahead, Well just real quick?

1011
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 2: Even then, how many times has something gone down on

1012
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 2: the timeline and somebody has a screenshot of twenty ten

1013
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: when that person remember when you said this to me,

1014
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: like you were holding onto that for fourteen years, So

1015
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 2: why can't this man say a year after some he

1016
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: gets slapped.

1017
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny, right, the same people talking about taking

1018
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: the low road and being petty talking about how he's

1019
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: not over it. It just depends on what side you

1020
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: want to be on. It determines people's morals. But what

1021
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna say also that I had to suck

1022
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: for Chris Rock. Everybody like Will Smith. So like even

1023
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: the people that are quote unquote on his side are

1024
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: on will side too. There's been a lot of like

1025
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: taking a picture with Chris Rox, like, hey, I love

1026
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: this brother, and then like two weeks later you see

1027
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: them in a picture with Will Smith, like love this brother.

1028
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: I hope these brothers can work it out, because don't

1029
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: nobody really want to throw Will in the trash? And

1030
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: another thing I thought I was funny too. I talked

1031
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: about how people dogged out Jada many of them being

1032
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: the same people, but to hate her now you know

1033
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: that love her now? Who need to defend her against

1034
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: Chris Rock? You know who else they dogged out? Will Smith?

1035
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: We talked about it. Remember the whole black aunt, darkest,

1036
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: dark skin, aunt, vel shit, and they were throwing him

1037
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: in the trash. He was never good. Da da da da,

1038
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: and then suddenly he's protecting a black woman. You know

1039
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: that was so interesting to me to see like just

1040
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: the short term memory of people where they can't even

1041
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: you could probably literally go through people and search their

1042
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: tweets and see when they were calling this man a

1043
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: no account, ain't shit ass nigga, and now they're like, champion,

1044
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: he believes in black. He was just defending a black woman,

1045
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: even with him saying that's not what happened, and with

1046
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: Jada being like, I didn't want that We're still he

1047
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: was just a champion. So all right, now let's.

1048
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 3: Talk about question real quick though. Just did did that?

1049
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: Did that change.

1050
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: How you saw Wilson? Not in it like a fuck

1051
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: that nigga forever, but just like it did it change.

1052
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: Something and saw him?

1053
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1054
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I never read the book and it just

1055
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: it didn't. I don't want to say it changed how

1056
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: song I want to say. And I'm sure it's a

1057
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: nightmare for him, but it made me think he's a

1058
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 1: nigga from Philly. That's that's what it made me think.

1059
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: Was it's something that I had stopped thinking. I had

1060
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: started thinking Will Smith was from Hollywood. That's that's like

1061
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: how complete the image of Will Smith was. He just

1062
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: descended from the Hollywood Mountain to make a movie and

1063
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: then went back up to the top of the mountain

1064
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: and he would come down two to three times a

1065
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: year and and and just do Will Smith tears in

1066
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: a row, make me cry, and then go back up

1067
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: the mountain. Right, And I said, Oh, he's a real person,

1068
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: because that's some real person. Shit, that's something like I

1069
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,959
Speaker 1: have trauma, I have been And it started everything made

1070
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: sense the way that he's converted as trauma into talent,

1071
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: the way that his talent has been used to like

1072
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: kind of hide who he is afraid to be around

1073
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: everybody else, The way that he's needed to be loved

1074
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: and liked, you know, Like the way that even the

1075
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: way that he is a good boy quote unquote when

1076
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: it comes to like the way that he deals with

1077
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: like women and stuff like that, and even the way

1078
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: he deals with Jade, I feel like it is very

1079
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: much good boy stuff. It's like I want to be good.

1080
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: I want you to see me as good. And if

1081
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: that means sometimes you do stuff that other people would

1082
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: be like, I wouldn't deal with that. Well I would

1083
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: because I'm a good person and I'll understand you. And

1084
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: when they said their relationship would be forever even if

1085
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: it was bad, I was like, oh, he's on some

1086
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: that's some other level like I need to be seen

1087
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: as good shit, you know. And so yeah, I definitely

1088
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: it definitely made me look at him differently, but not

1089
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: in the throw them in the trashway. But I'm not

1090
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: a throw them in the trash kind of person. Like

1091
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: most like a lot of.

1092
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 4: People and insane, I'm not a throw them in the

1093
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 4: trash type of person.

1094
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 5: And I did do the book. And so for me,

1095
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 5: what I've realized is this and I and this.

1096
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 4: Kind of this year into last year, I actually went

1097
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 4: to therapy and so for the first time, and so

1098
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 4: for me listening to the book and hearing about all

1099
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 4: that stuff and seeing that, like Roger saying, I'm not

1100
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 4: throw throw them away person either, But people have the

1101
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 4: wrong interpretation of therapy.

1102
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 5: Therapy is a continuation. Not I went this, I solved

1103
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 5: the problem. The problem is over.

1104
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 4: Nothing will ever trigger me, nothing will ever make me

1105
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 4: feel bad again.

1106
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 5: These things. It is quote unquote the end.

1107
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 4: You You are always something in progress.

1108
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go to therapy so you won't slap a nigga,

1109
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: that's really what That's all right, It's correct. It's not

1110
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: so you won't feel triggered, or so everybody in the

1111
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: world is gonna adapt to your trigger. That's not even possible.

1112
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 4: Or it's how you handle things right, right, Because I

1113
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 4: think BOSSI may have said this, and once.

1114
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 5: You said this, it stuck with me.

1115
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 4: You were saying that the world will not adapt to you.

1116
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 4: You have got to have the tools and learn how

1117
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 4: to adapt to the world. The world is not going

1118
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 4: to change it's not going to clod you, it's not

1119
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 4: gonnat you on the back, and and and and support

1120
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 4: your bullshit.

1121
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 5: You have got to be accountable and responsible.

1122
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is what you just made me realize.

1123
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: Can you know what? You know what it is? These

1124
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: people support Will slapping Chris because it is how they

1125
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: approach other people's stand up. Yes, this is how they

1126
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: they want this like, and it's been having it for

1127
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: years where they've been taking stand up out of context

1128
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 1: at them like it's a fucking ted talk like it's real,

1129
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: Like it's no jokes, and they always kind of have

1130
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: this wish casting of like these people should be punished

1131
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: for having funny thoughts because nothing is funny ever unless

1132
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: I decide so. And you know what, they transposed themselves

1133
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 1: on the Will. Will doesn't even want this, but they

1134
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: have transposed themselves on him. And there's something too that

1135
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: I haven't fully You just made me think of it,

1136
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: so I don't have it fully fleshed out yet, but

1137
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: there is something there in that. It's it is he

1138
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: was our symbol of hope, of we are hurting comedians

1139
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: because they hurt our feelings, because our trauma is more

1140
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: important than there are are trauma is more important than

1141
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: their trauma. They use their trauma to do art. But

1142
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: you know what to supersed that the world should change

1143
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: due to my trauma. So he should know that Will

1144
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 1: is traumatized by someone talking about his wife. And even

1145
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: if you don't know about the alp and stuff, you

1146
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: should never even make a joke on anybody in the

1147
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: audience because what if they have a hidden trauma like

1148
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: I do, and they give just need to attack your

1149
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: ass and they should be justified in attacking you. They're right,

1150
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: there should be no punishments. Everyone should support them attacking

1151
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: you because that is how they attack comedy. It has

1152
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: been that way for it literally since Twitter began. They

1153
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: take stand up and they're like, if you don't, if

1154
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: you look at it in the context of it's not

1155
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: a joke, let me tell you why. Let me tell

1156
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: you why that person deserves.

1157
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 5: To be hurt, and it doesn't make any sense.

1158
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 4: And I remember BOSSI saying that I don't remember if

1159
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 4: it was on the regular show or.

1160
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 5: This too much as you said that.

1161
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 4: Oh lose, and it made me do things very differently

1162
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 4: from that perspective, and I was like, that makes sense.

1163
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 5: And if more people looked.

1164
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 4: At it like that they would be aware and they

1165
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 4: actually critically think about their actions right before they do.

1166
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: But that's that's also part of it too, because like

1167
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 2: I was talking about earlier, I was talking about, well,

1168
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: this whole week, I was talking about the anxiety to

1169
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 2: depression pipeline because I went from like high anxiety to

1170
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: like this depression over the last couple of days. And

1171
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 2: I was talking about the fact that this is my condition.

1172
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, this is this is a

1173
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: permanent condition for me. What changes is how I approach it.

1174
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: What changes is me saying, oh, this is what happened.

1175
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: I was high anxiety for this reason. It has a name.

1176
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: And of course, because this is what usually happens, the

1177
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: next thing happened. So I need to tell somebody. I

1178
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: need to call my doctor. I need to figure out

1179
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: if my meds are a problem. I need to lay

1180
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 2: low for a little bit. I need to cancel like

1181
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: all these different things that I do now because of

1182
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: the mindfulness training that I have. Right, mindfulness training doesn't

1183
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 2: mean that I'm cured now. And I think that a

1184
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 2: lot of people don't ever approach their quote unquote trauma

1185
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: And I say quote unquote traumas because it runs the

1186
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: gamut your mom yelled at you when you were six,

1187
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: or you were abused, like everybody treats them all on

1188
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: the same scale. And I think that there's a disservice

1189
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 2: to both parts of that because it makes it seem

1190
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: as though it is impossible to heal and the fact,

1191
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: and I think that that's one of the biggest problems

1192
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: I have with Twitter, is that healing is not part

1193
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 2: of the conversation. Wellness is not part of the conversation.

1194
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 2: What happens after you stated the trauma. You've told me

1195
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 2: countless times what your trauma is, but you've never told

1196
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: me what happens next.

1197
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 3: What have you done since then? What is the next step?

1198
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: How are you going to go through life with this?

1199
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 2: Because you can't stay on Twitter controlling how everybody responds

1200
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: to you, because that's not how, that's not how.

1201
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 3: That's why.

1202
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: That's why they do that on Twitter. They try to

1203
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 2: apply it into real life and they come running back

1204
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: to Twitter about how abusive their boss is because they

1205
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: didn't let them not show up for work for two

1206
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: months without calling in, and it's like and people are like,

1207
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry that happened to you. They should understand, No,

1208
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: they shouldn't. You should figure out how to live in

1209
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: the fucking world.

1210
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but what's a better What's a better reality

1211
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 1: than one you create yourself? Right? Like, like it's got

1212
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: to be a learning to them to come back to

1213
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: a place where you can say Chris Rock was never

1214
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: funny and then a bunch of people chime in and

1215
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: go yeah. And it's because real world, you couldn't go

1216
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: into a room full of people and say that and

1217
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: have them go yeah, You're gonna have a bunch of

1218
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: people be like the fuck you talking about? So let

1219
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: me run back to Twitter, you know. And that's that

1220
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: way for a lot of shit, not just this this

1221
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: stand up special. But I do want to get into

1222
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: the special a little bit.

1223
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, one more thingful we get to do it.

1224
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 5: He's making me.

1225
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 4: Think about a biasing how and for the people that

1226
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 4: actually talk about the healing part of it, because you

1227
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 4: do have a subsection of those people that talk about

1228
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 4: it they don't mean it because when people do it offline,

1229
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 4: like like they actually heal, they actually do all of

1230
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 4: the work offline. Then they demanded they see it. Yeah,

1231
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 4: they like if I didn't see it. If you didn't post, tweet, Facebook.

1232
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 5: Instagram, a tiktocket, it didn't exist.

1233
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: Well that's because it's content, correct, So they want they

1234
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: want healing content. They want it's you know, it's the

1235
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: people that are like, I miss Megan the Stallion. I'm like,

1236
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: you don't miss her, you miss content. Because if someone

1237
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: told you being online is literally making me depressed, I

1238
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: have to get offline because niggas are harassing me and

1239
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: saying I deserve to be shot, and then I'm lying.

1240
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 1: And so the person goes offline and your first thought

1241
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: is I miss seeing her twerk, Then you don't. Really,

1242
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: that's not really missing a person that's missing some content.

1243
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're missing the the ability to consume a human being. Yes, endlessly, Yes,

1244
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: and call it support, but just real quick and then

1245
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 2: we'll get into special.

1246
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 3: I swear one of.

1247
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: The things, like it didn't change my opinion of Will,

1248
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,959
Speaker 2: but it confirmed something that I had wondered ever since

1249
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 2: he started like being on social media. I was like,

1250
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: this nigga toxic positivity, Like, yes, there's something really unsettling

1251
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: about the method in which he chooses to be a

1252
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 2: positive person. It doesn't feel authentic, and then when he

1253
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 2: started talking about his book and his life, I was like.

1254
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 3: Oh, there it is, that's where it is.

1255
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 2: So for me, it just confirmed what I was worried about,

1256
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 2: not worried about, but what I sort of picked up

1257
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 2: on before, where it's like, this is not a you're

1258
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: not healing.

1259
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 3: These are all platitudes.

1260
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 2: These are all like learning how to circumvent feelings by

1261
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 2: pretending you don't feel them or pretending you feel something

1262
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 2: higher like that whole well, I learned that our relationship,

1263
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: I don't have to be happy in it or making

1264
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,959
Speaker 2: you happy because because I'm not put up, Like what are.

1265
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 3: You talking about? Like, ye, you low key kind of.

1266
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 2: You kind of don't want your spouse to be unhappy,

1267
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 2: Like that's normal, that's okay to feel like you don't

1268
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 2: want them to be unhappy.

1269
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, I do feel like, yeah,

1270
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: it's something about his content online has always felt a

1271
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: little like clean almost, but even from the days when

1272
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: he was rapping and he didn't curse, like I just

1273
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: always felt like, you know, he's had to be a

1274
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: character for us because because he I think he was

1275
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: a little bit afraid of what the real him with

1276
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: how it would be received, and I mean it's a

1277
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: gamble that paid off. To be honest, it's hard to

1278
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: argue against it because the nigga is so goddamn rich

1279
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: and famous. But at the same time, like even I

1280
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: think even he recognizes he don't want support for him

1281
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: doing some foul shit like that, and people offering that

1282
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: support it's not about him, it's about them. So with

1283
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: this special first thing I'll say is I love this

1284
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: commentary about the whole like attention is the new like

1285
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: currency and stuff. I thought that was really dope. I think, Uh,

1286
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: his joke about abortion was so fucking scary. I didn't

1287
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: know where he was taking it. I was scared. I

1288
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: was like, like that shit, I thought, because you know,

1289
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: he's been doing some shows with Chappelle and shit, I said, yo,

1290
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: please don't let this nigga Chappelle rub off from Chris

1291
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: Rock to the point where like he's trying to get

1292
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: cancel quote unquote and he's doing the cancel culture bit

1293
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: and he didn't to be fair, like I'm glad he didn't,

1294
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: but like the joke was so masterful, with the abortion joke,

1295
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: the way that he did the like, oh god, I

1296
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: want I think you are killing I think you are

1297
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: killing a baby, and I think you should be able

1298
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: to kill a baby, and people like he lost the

1299
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: audience and I said, oh shit, I mean this is live, bro,

1300
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: if you because you all know the Will Smith part

1301
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: is coming, so I'm like, this is live. If you

1302
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: lose the audience half way through, you can't land the

1303
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: plane because everyone needs to be on your side for

1304
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 1: the last bit. And if they stopped liking you twenty

1305
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: minutes in, it's gonna be an awkward last seven. But

1306
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: the way he got them back with the like, yeah,

1307
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: and I think you should be able to kill a baby.

1308
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about what I'm talking about up

1309
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: till four years old. I'm not talking first trimester. I'm

1310
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: talking about first semester.

1311
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm I was giggling throughout this whole thing,

1312
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 2: Like I was like he was that was such a

1313
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 2: good joke. And again, this is what I was talking

1314
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 2: about where it's like people are like, oh, he must

1315
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: be hanging out with Joe Rogan and I was like.

1316
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: What, Yeah, they travel and I was like.

1317
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: This is these are the jokes that they think are like,

1318
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 2: these are actual jokes. Yeah, And the thing that's so

1319
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: masterful to me about the about the special, And I

1320
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 2: really wish it wasn't live.

1321
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you.

1322
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 2: I wish it wasn't live because I wanted him to

1323
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: like hit some of these things a bit, because there

1324
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 2: were a lot of like the repetition, the uh that

1325
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 2: that was missed, the callbacks, Oh my god, the callbacks

1326
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 2: were so fucking good.

1327
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, the I don't need to beef with another rapper

1328
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: thing was good, so.

1329
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 3: Good, I'm not Oh, that was so good.

1330
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: And then the just the tag to the joke that

1331
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: was the tag to the joke about the kids where

1332
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: he's like finished watching Stranger Things but then we gotta

1333
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: go to the clinic so dark was so funny. I

1334
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: was worried also when he started getting into like the

1335
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: OJ stuff, just because I know, I knew people were

1336
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: gonna hate on it because he's talked about it in

1337
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: almost every stand up. He's just fascinated about the OJ

1338
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: trial and I was like, these niggas gonna hate this.

1339
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:52,919
Speaker 1: And then when he got into the the Caitlyn Jenner stuff,

1340
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, where's this going. But he actually

1341
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: landed that well too, like it and the thing is.

1342
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,919
Speaker 1: So this is the I wanted to make too early.

1343
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: I forgot to say it. But I love black people.

1344
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: I love old black men too, And by saying I

1345
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: love them, I don't mean like they're perfect. I excuse

1346
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: everything they do or da da da da. I'm just

1347
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: saying like, there's a certain type of love for a

1348
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: old nigga. That and old black women too. To be

1349
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: honest with you, where I know them, they and my family,

1350
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna make it to the full progressive shit

1351
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: that we say on Twitter and on this podcast, but

1352
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: they got good hearts and they will make it close enough.

1353
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: And I mean close enough as in like like like

1354
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: I'll be like I am pro marriage equality, and my

1355
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: uncle will be like, I don't care if two dudes

1356
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: want to get married, And I'm like, you know what,

1357
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: close enough for you? You ain't gonna you ain't gonna

1358
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: make it over to this other heell, but you might

1359
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: not get the right words in the right language, you know.

1360
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: But but but I have an affection for you because

1361
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: one you're keeping it real, but then too, you're on

1362
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: the right side. You're just not as far along the

1363
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: right side as I am. And I'm sure that's some nigga.

1364
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: That's even more. I'm gonna be an old nigga one

1365
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: day where somebody's more progressive than me and I ain't

1366
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: gonna truly understand it, and i'mna be like, well, shit,

1367
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: if you say so, And that's as close as they

1368
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: gonna get for me because I'm not gonna be able

1369
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: to truly get them. Yeah, exactly. Now, I'm all right, yes,

1370
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: I guess so so like when.

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01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 3: He's gonna.

1372
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 5: He's not gonna stand your way at all.

1373
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 1: Well, he ended a joke and said, nigga, that woman

1374
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: is your daddy. I was like, I was like, bro,

1375
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 1: so like it was just so funny and ridiculous and

1376
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: obviously for jokes. I love the stuff about his daughter

1377
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: Lola and the.

1378
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 3: Call, the callback with her biting yes, and what did.

1379
01:08:56,479 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 1: You think about he because I believed him. Well, he

1380
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: was like, I mean, I know he's worked it out,

1381
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: but when he said I never told them this story.

1382
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: She is hearing that I got her kicked out of

1383
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 1: school to teach her a lesson for the first time

1384
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: ever with y'all tonight, I was like, yo, I.

1385
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 3: Was like, is he joking?

1386
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 5: But he was.

1387
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,879
Speaker 2: He looked dead in the camera and was like, I'm

1388
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 2: you're finding this like he was.

1389
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:29,839
Speaker 3: He was fucking serious.

1390
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 2: But even then, like it was like, that's so that's

1391
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: so black dad, that's so black dad. That I raised

1392
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 2: y'all without enough grit and I need to figure out how.

1393
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: To change that. Yah, that was so legit. So I

1394
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 1: might be rich for identify as poor and and that

1395
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: was like that was the most like poor nigga shit

1396
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: I've ever heard where he was like he got his

1397
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: daughter kicked out in his physical school to teach her

1398
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 1: a lesson even though he knew not like even though

1399
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: he low Ki didn't want to do it, you know

1400
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but like her being so unrepentant.

1401
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 3: Yes, when he said she was giggling with her with her.

1402
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 7: White friends, because like cause like it made it made

1403
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 7: so much sense because he because I'm like, because you

1404
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 7: see this all the time, but no one really.

1405
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 1: Articulates it like this on stage where it's like my

1406
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 1: job is to make sure this child grows up to

1407
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: be the kind of child. I fucking hate it, you know,

1408
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: like like I would be less than a good day.

1409
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: Because he was like, no, I'm he said, you know,

1410
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: rich people black people get rich and they'd be like,

1411
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: I want my kid to struggle. It's like, not me, No,

1412
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,560
Speaker 1: I want my kid to do great. But the consequence

1413
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: of them doing great is the spoiled entitlement that comes

1414
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: with that. And the way he addressed it, it was just

1415
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 1: so funny. And it's that that like that refrain of

1416
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: like too shade, nigga, too shake, like you know what.

1417
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:57,520
Speaker 2: Also, that joke to me was like the natural progression

1418
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 2: of his keep your daughter.

1419
01:10:58,840 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: Off the poles?

1420
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, like that that's the natural progression of all

1421
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 2: those jokes that he's told before.

1422
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 3: Yes.

1423
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of the jokes in the

1424
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 2: special I could link to older stand up and this

1425
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 2: is the logical progression for So are you saying?

1426
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: Are you saying if Mary J. Blige is singing a

1427
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: sad song in twenty twenty three, it's probably a progression

1428
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: of the facts you've been singing sad songs for thirty years?

1429
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:31,799
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying in BOSSI? And hmm? Interesting?

1430
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 2: I feel like people don't typically ever change ever, So

1431
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's what like it was so like.

1432
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: I saw people using that like it was some sort

1433
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: of incriminating evidence I was like, uh, so, you mean

1434
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: every stand up special from any comedian has been in

1435
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 1: the game. Ain't nobody ever dropped a stand up special

1436
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:55,839
Speaker 1: that had no relationship to other material. We're only following

1437
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 1: their thought process. They need to become a new person. Honestly,

1438
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: don't even know what that would look like if a

1439
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: motherfucker came out with a stand up special and it

1440
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 1: was like, I got all different views and opinions, give

1441
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 1: me my money, where's this ride gonna go?

1442
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1443
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: Like it anyway, but yeah, that that that big the uber.

1444
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: Because mom, Yeah, oh my god, I'd heard that story before.

1445
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 2: I think he told it on Deces and Maryland. I

1446
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 2: think he told it on something like the thing about

1447
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: his mom and the dentist.

1448
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 3: But making it go full circle about her, Oh my god,

1449
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 3: am I getting emotional the fuck?

1450
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 2: But making it go full circle about her going to

1451
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 2: Paris and like sitting with her granddaughter like that.

1452
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 3: That was beautiful.

1453
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that that's something he was able to make

1454
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: happen because he loves black women. Also, I thought it

1455
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: was so funny the joke about the Kardashians and how

1456
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: because because he got oj off, God cursed him.

1457
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 3: That's when I messaged you.

1458
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: That's when I was like, no, fuck everybody, this ship

1459
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 2: is funny. That's what I messaged you because I was like,

1460
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 2: this is fucking inspired.

1461
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 3: It was so good.

1462
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 2: He's just a joke that we all make and he

1463
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 2: just like fine tuned it made Oh, it was so good.

1464
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: He was like and not just he said, not just

1465
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: hitting it. He was like crazins basketball basketball niggas with

1466
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: drug habits. It was so good. Oh my god, man,

1467
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: like honestly, guy in real time, just watching Twitter be mad,

1468
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't even I can't get

1469
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: how do you even go here? Oh my god? And

1470
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: then of course like get into like the Will Smith stuff.

1471
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, before that Megan Marco stuff. So I think

1472
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: he roasted Yeah, I think he roasted this ship out

1473
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: of the First Family, whatever the fuck they're called over there.

1474
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 1: This is, by the way, this is why I will

1475
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: forever be on Megan Marco's side. I know it's probably

1476
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: unfair because I'm using completely my anecdotal upbringing and ship.

1477
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: I do not care and did not know shit about

1478
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: the Royal family growing up. I'm sorry, but it wasn't

1479
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't a thing in my house I'm not. I'm

1480
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: from I'm Black American. We have no connection to them.

1481
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 1: Our city is named Charlotte. I didn't even know there

1482
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: was a Queen Charlotte until high school or some shit like.

1483
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 4: I didn't know it until we took one of them

1484
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 4: bus tools and they were like yeah.

1485
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 5: I was like, and.

1486
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 1: I'm not even knocking y'all, like if you grew up

1487
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,799
Speaker 1: into that ship. I remember when Tupac died and Biggie

1488
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: died and I and I also remember Princess died died,

1489
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 1: but I was at an HBCU. People was crying for

1490
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: Tubac and Bigie just wasn't like that for Princess died

1491
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: where I was at. So I'm always end up kind

1492
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: of being on her side because her main conceited. I

1493
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 1: didn't know it was this bad, and guess what's his.

1494
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: I didn't either.

1495
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 4: I didn't like, you should have known, Well, bitch, how

1496
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 4: do I know? I'm not raised in this This this

1497
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 4: is not America. Y'all know where narciss is over.

1498
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: But Chris Chris found that. Chris found the humor in it, though,

1499
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: which is even if you didn't know, you could have known.

1500
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 1: And and that's where it was funny, like you could

1501
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: have googled these mans and read their raps and found

1502
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: out it's pretty bad.

1503
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 2: And there's the thing I'm I'm I'm pro the sex

1504
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 2: sexist or whatever the news are. I'm pro Harry and Meghan.

1505
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 2: But I also called bullshit on her not googling him

1506
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 2: when she met him, a whole prince of not even

1507
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,839
Speaker 2: like a prince of like some like tiny country between

1508
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 2: Norway and Finland, but like the UK, like you you

1509
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: you googled, But that's fine.

1510
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 3: I didn't like. I didn't like how he entered the joke,

1511
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 3: but I liked where he ended up.

1512
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought the way that he roasted the

1513
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 2: royal family, he just needed her as an entrance. Honestly,

1514
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:05,560
Speaker 2: you just needed her to enter the joke because he

1515
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 2: can't just be talking.

1516
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: I forget what the reframe was, but I remember it

1517
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: being kind of fucked up and targeting her like, you know, like, bitch,

1518
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: you didn't look it up or something whatever it was,

1519
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: he just didn't.

1520
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 2: I didn't love that, but I didn't think that that.

1521
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: The Royal family jokes were very, very funny.

1522
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 1: And the dating the older woman versus dating a younger

1523
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: woman was also a progression of things he said in

1524
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 1: the past. But god damn, that was funny, Like and

1525
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: you know what's so crazy. It's like y'all are telling

1526
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:37,719
Speaker 1: me because he's misogynistic, y'all aren't laughing. Y'all didn't think

1527
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: New Pussy was great and classic on Bigger and Black Nigga.

1528
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: I everyone I knew knew that bit by heart that

1529
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 1: like now pussy can't cook, you know, Like everyone I

1530
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:55,560
Speaker 1: knew was like, that's the truth. That's why you don't cheat,

1531
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: because you you gonna get with New Pussy and find

1532
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 1: out your wife you should have stayed with your wife.

1533
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: And so he's still making those old school type of

1534
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: jokes I never heard. I honestly did not know people

1535
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 1: thought that wasn't funny anymore. It's still funny to me.

1536
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: I was laughing, like shit at you get a young woman,

1537
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: you get a pair of shoes, and she a model

1538
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 1: the shoes for you. He's like, you get a you

1539
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: get an older woman, she needs you to help replace

1540
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: the roof of her house.

1541
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 5: The demands a different said, you need to help fix

1542
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 5: her car.

1543
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,799
Speaker 1: And it's always a nice car, but the wrong model.

1544
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: The only the only thing that made me a little

1545
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 2: uncomfortable because he told that joke right after the stuff

1546
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 2: about his daughter.

1547
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 3: So he was like, you like my shoes, daddy.

1548
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 2: I was like, no, no, no, oh, I can see that

1549
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 2: together close together.

1550
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 3: But outside of that, the thing.

1551
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 2: Is again he approached, He approached the young woman older

1552
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 2: man thing in a way that made sense, like, yeah,

1553
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 2: all these other comedians have tried these jokes.

1554
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: I feel it don't work for everybody.

1555
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,919
Speaker 3: They don't work. And he figured out a way.

1556
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: To make them his whole, Like we could hold we

1557
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: I'll eat. Somebody asked to knife. I won't, dad, because

1558
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: hold their hands is too intimate.

1559
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, everybody I slept with, right, remember every woman

1560
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 2: who's hand eye held?

1561
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I think the other part is so

1562
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: this is a part that just social media fundamentally does

1563
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: not accept or understand about stand up comedy. And this

1564
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: is just how comedians are built. And I don't give

1565
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 1: a fuck who you like. They're all this way. They

1566
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 1: don't have fun or feel like they did the job

1567
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: unless they pulled right up to the line. And that's

1568
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 1: what Chris was doing with these bits. He pulls right

1569
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,799
Speaker 1: up to the line of where you're gonna jump off

1570
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: and then he reels you back in with like, oh,

1571
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 1: this is more of a joke about him. Well, this

1572
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: is more of a joke about how silly this is.

1573
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 1: That's a doportion joke. Was. That's what the older woman

1574
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: versus a young woman was. Even the Megan Markle thing.

1575
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: He definitely wants you to feel like a protective like, hey,

1576
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: this nigga talking about Meghan mark why are you doing

1577
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: And then pull you back in with, oh, he's roasting

1578
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 1: the royal family. Of course they're racist, and they're like

1579
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: the Harlem globe trotters are racism. They're the worse, you know.

1580
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 1: So I thought he killed that. Oh go ahead, I'm sorry.

1581
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 2: Oh oh no, I was just saying the thing with

1582
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 2: him having paid off more loans than.

1583
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 3: Biden, I thought that was that was hilarious. I do

1584
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 3: have a.

1585
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 2: Question there, yeah, yeah, and all the things that I've

1586
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 2: said previously before we start talking about that, I feel

1587
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 2: like it could be on site with Draymond Green, like

1588
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 2: do they have a history?

1589
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:42,600
Speaker 3: Are they friends?

1590
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 2: Like they're if they won't like haul up and slapped him,

1591
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 2: might be like m hm, why.

1592
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: Did you do that?

1593
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

1594
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 2: Like not on television all the other stuff still applies.

1595
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 2: But I was like, are y'all friends? I hope y'all friends?

1596
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, like this because he kept going

1597
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 1: to Steph. He was like Steph Curry versus. Then he

1598
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 1: went to Draymond Green example again and how hard the

1599
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: kid's life is gonna be? I think it was just

1600
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: like and then.

1601
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 3: How dirty pillows were? Like, come on, like, what was happening?

1602
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,679
Speaker 1: Was like he said something like if Draymond Green snuck

1603
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: up behind, he sneak up on everybody. So yeah, it

1604
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: was out of nowhere. I don't know. I don't know.

1605
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 1: Hopefully Draymond laughs at it, because Draymond talks way too

1606
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: much shit about other people to be out here getting

1607
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,759
Speaker 1: offended in my opinion, Yeah.

1608
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 2: Sorry, because I was like, I was like, what is happening?

1609
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? And then of course I think we covered most

1610
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 1: of the special the will Smith stuff, so the Will

1611
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 1: Smith stuff. The only thing I'll say is because he

1612
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: waited a year to do it, other people have done

1613
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: so much of this material that very little of it

1614
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: was new. I think the the the tease of it

1615
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: is that he was finally doing it, because I've heard

1616
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 1: almost every one of those versions. Of those jokes before

1617
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: from the whole, like you know, Will Smith's a bitch,

1618
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: Will Smith. And actually I love the way he did

1619
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: the Will Smith's a bitch, bit bitch. He never says it.

1620
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: He's always like people were saying Will Smith's a bitch.

1621
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 1: Charlemagne called him a bitch. So after like eight bitches,

1622
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: you like, yo, he's calling Will Smith a bitch like

1623
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: he ain't saying it, but he kind of saying it.

1624
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 1: And then at one point he calls Jada a bitch. Now,

1625
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: whether it's off handed on purpose, it doesn't really matter.

1626
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 1: I think that joint kind of was like like that

1627
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 1: felt a little like man it on her, It wasn't

1628
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 1: on her, Yeah, And I think that's where that anger

1629
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:51,759
Speaker 1: comes from, because he's still mad that like she uh

1630
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 1: didn't want him to host the Oscars because Will didn't

1631
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: get nominate for concussion, which is a real thing which

1632
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: we talked about when this first thing popped off, and

1633
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: he roasted her the Oscars for that, and I remember

1634
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: being like, I didn't like it then, to be honest,

1635
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: I watched that and was like, I think you're just

1636
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: out of pocket right now, Like this room full of

1637
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 1: white people laughing at this even though it is silly

1638
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: and very selfish and like transparently so you know, like

1639
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 1: I get that it is funny. I'm not telling you

1640
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: it's not, but like the optics of it definitely made

1641
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: me feel a way not to get all respectability, but

1642
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, god, man, I wish he didn't

1643
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: do this, And especially after anticipating him like roasting the Oscars,

1644
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: which is what everyone thought was gonna happen, him spending

1645
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,679
Speaker 1: some time roasting her more than the being with vitre

1646
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: out more than the Oscars. He lost me there and

1647
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: so he clearly was really mad about that in general

1648
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 1: and so using that to be like, you know, this bitch,

1649
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: And he only did it once, but it just felt

1650
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 1: like it felt different than him doing the will Smith

1651
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: bitch or you know, even it felt even different than

1652
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: him pointing out like she slept with her son's friend

1653
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: and all that, like it was. It just felt like

1654
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 1: he was still mad. And I think my general conceit

1655
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: with the special is he is still so obsessed with

1656
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: not being seen as weak, yeah, that he turned this

1657
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 1: special into like I think there's a I think there's

1658
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 1: a better special here that could have been had if

1659
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: he could have dealt with the fact that I want

1660
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: to be vulnerable to y'all a little bit and say, like,

1661
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:39,799
Speaker 1: I was hurt. I was hurt by my friends picking

1662
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: trying to pick both sides. I was hurt at people

1663
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: saying I hate my people and then I hate black women.

1664
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 1: I was hurt that people thought I knew she had

1665
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: alopecia when I clearly fucking didn't. I you know, like

1666
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 1: I wanted.

1667
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 3: I was hurt that people think I'm so pathetic.

1668
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:02,520
Speaker 1: I would to hear that because I think the vulnerability

1669
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 1: allows him even more of an outlet at the end,

1670
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: and people are more on your side. But because he

1671
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 1: was so obsessed with like I ate that punch, like Peckieah,

1672
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 1: because I'm not a victim. These other people are victims.

1673
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: They go on OPRAH and they do this. I'm like, bro,

1674
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: You're on a stage in one hundred and twenty nine countries, live,

1675
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 1: getting attention that you claim everybody wants, and you're and

1676
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: now you're telling us your story. This is a It's

1677
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 1: okay that this happening. You didn't deserve it, you weren't

1678
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 1: wrong for it. There's no wrong way to handle it.

1679
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 2: Wakay, you know, Hey, this is why we're friends, Rod,

1680
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 2: Because towards the end, even with the even though I

1681
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 2: gasped with the bitch, I wondered if he meant to

1682
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 2: say that I want you to ge just like he

1683
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 2: just seemed like adrenaline, Like he just seemed like really

1684
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 2: keyed up, like this is the part, this is the

1685
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 2: part where I get to prove that I'm you know whatever, whatever,

1686
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 2: And he just seemed like when he fumbled the joke,

1687
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 2: I was like, oh fuck, because I knew then that

1688
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 2: this part was more difficult for him than the rest

1689
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 2: of the parts, and I wondered how it was going

1690
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 2: to come off. I still think he did a good job,

1691
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 2: and he landed it well for that moment, but.

1692
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 3: I think that.

1693
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 2: I think that there's something to be I think that

1694
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 2: it would be difficult for him right now to be vulnerable,

1695
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 2: vulnerable when people are still on the attack when it

1696
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 2: comes to him, and I think that.

1697
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 3: He's he's he was talking to us like, you don't.

1698
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 2: You You can think I'm whatever, but I'm this Even

1699
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 2: though I'm not fully convinced that I feel this way

1700
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 2: about myself.

1701
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 3: I think that that when he was starting on the whole,

1702
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 3: like I'm little and like all of that.

1703
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 2: I thought that was really good, and I thought that

1704
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 2: he was going to like lead more into like and

1705
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 2: I've been little my whole life or or something like that.

1706
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 1: I think that you can only really do it if

1707
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: you're if you've dealt with it mentally right, like like

1708
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: I wanted him to do something that I'm not sure

1709
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: he's even ready or capable of doing right now. So

1710
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it like I'm rewriting his

1711
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: stand up special. I feel like there's just a better

1712
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: special a year from now and two years from now

1713
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: and three because to me, it felt a little bit

1714
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: like a lie this whole like and I've been unaffected

1715
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: by this thing. It hurt me physically, but that's it. Like,

1716
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 1: you know what he said he had he had he

1717
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: had summertime ringing in his head and he's like, drune please,

1718
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,799
Speaker 1: like like that's very that's very funny.

1719
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 3: You know.

1720
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: I think he should have said ear drums please, but

1721
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: that's very funny, and he but I wanted him to

1722
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 1: actually say how he really felt. And I think, but did.

1723
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:50,759
Speaker 3: You did you see moments I saw?

1724
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 5: I saw?

1725
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 3: I wonder if there were two versions?

1726
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: And he just kept deferring, just based on adrenaline or

1727
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 2: based on like just still not being ready. He deferred

1728
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 2: to the other jocks because there were a couple of

1729
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 2: times when he was talking about how much he loved

1730
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 2: Will Smith and how much he looked up to him

1731
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 2: and all the stuff. I was like, there's a there's

1732
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 2: a there's a right that he could take where it

1733
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 2: leads into that, but he went left.

1734
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I do like, I don't think there's necessarily

1735
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 1: versions of it. Like I know he's been working stuff

1736
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 1: out on stage, but I don't just from the stuff

1737
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 1: I've heard, I don't think he's gotten to the that part.

1738
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 1: And a lot of his support has been very toxic support,

1739
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 1: Like it's been a lot of like Jada, that's because

1740
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 1: that ball bitch Jada Pinkers. It's been a lot of

1741
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,719
Speaker 1: stuff that he I don't even think he would necessarily say,

1742
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: but people have been saying it, like on his behalf.

1743
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: And I think a similar thing happened with Kevin Hart

1744
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: and his stand up when he lost that Oscars thing

1745
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: or whatever, and then people, the people that had his back,

1746
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 1: went further than he goes, Like he doesn't do that.

1747
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 1: Those type of jokes, but you on stage saying like

1748
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: super wild shit, you know, saying like on his behalf.

1749
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,839
Speaker 1: And I do wonder if that environment is one where

1750
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 1: he he you know what, Chris will Smith TM, he's

1751
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 1: Chris rock TM to a lot of people, and I

1752
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 1: feel like he felt a pressure. And it's all projection

1753
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 1: on my part, but it felt like there was a pressure.

1754
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 1: That'll be Chris rock TM. I'm bigger, I'm above it.

1755
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm making jokes about it. It doesn't hurt me at all.

1756
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm not really truly affected. And to me, there's a

1757
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 1: falsehood there to where I'm like, this isn't just yeah,

1758
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: this isn't the special that would have been a game

1759
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 1: changer for me. It's still good, don't get me wrong.

1760
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 1: I laugh like shit, but this isn't like one of

1761
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 1: those moments where I'm like, yo, Chris used his art

1762
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: to transcend everything he saw. He grafts this this picture

1763
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: that no one else could see. But from his perspective,

1764
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: he gave us some shit that no one else could do.

1765
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 1: Because most of the jokes in that segment were jokes

1766
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 1: I had heard just other people make about it, and

1767
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that's where he's at right now,

1768
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 1: and and I think the final joke didn't land the

1769
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 1: way he probably wanted it to land, even though I can,

1770
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 1: like I said, and me and bossibly, I think we're

1771
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: on the same page, there's a level of nerves I

1772
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 1: was feeling off him that just it felt like he

1773
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 1: could almost rush to the end. But when he was like, yeah,

1774
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 1: because my parents told me not the fight in front

1775
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 1: of white people, he dropped the mic and I was like, yeah,

1776
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 1: that that bar is not gonna hit the way you think.

1777
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 2: But do you But do you know what I think

1778
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 2: that was. I think that was the only way he

1779
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 2: felt that the moment he could respond to your coup

1780
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 2: shit or or.

1781
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 1: Well, you know what he was responding to BOSSI, why

1782
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: didn't you fight him? Because he's still he's still there.

1783
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 1: He's still like like I said, he's still in his mind,

1784
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: is thinking, am I bitch? Am I a bitch? This

1785
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 1: man hit me? And I watched every fucking man on

1786
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 1: the planet tell me how they would have whooped his ass. Yeah,

1787
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 1: so now I gotta explain. It felt more like, let

1788
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 1: me explain to y'all why what happened to me? One?

1789
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm not a victim. And two why I didn't fight

1790
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 1: him back. And it's like, if that's what you went

1791
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 1: into this trying to prove, I feel like you still

1792
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 1: haven't gotten to the place that the great art is

1793
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 1: born from, which is like a kind of introspection and

1794
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: acceptance of like what happened, why it happened, and what

1795
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 1: is universal about it, because you know what, everybody has

1796
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 1: been bitched out in public guys, everybody has been embarrassed

1797
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:43,679
Speaker 1: by someone, everybody's been bullied. There's a universality to that

1798
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: that he could have reached that I think. You know,

1799
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 1: obviously the haters aside, they would never concede anything, but

1800
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 1: a lot of people would have been like, oh, okay, bro,

1801
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: I feel you.

1802
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 3: I think that he I think he's just outside of

1803
01:30:58,360 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 3: it's not your fault.

1804
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 2: Yes, he's just outside of that, and he's not any

1805
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 2: further than that. And I think that a lot of

1806
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:11,679
Speaker 2: it was him reassuring himself by by by by putting

1807
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 2: on I'm not a victim. I didn' da da da da,

1808
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 2: And it's not for us, it's for him. And I

1809
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:19,879
Speaker 2: wish that he would have Do you think it's possible

1810
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 2: for him to to do what you said?

1811
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 3: Later?

1812
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 2: Or are people going to be like, fuck this, nigga,

1813
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 2: why are you still talking about it?

1814
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 3: Because I would like to.

1815
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 2: I think he would have to do it like uh

1816
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 2: Neil Brennan's three mics.

1817
01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 3: It would have to be like a.

1818
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 2: Whole thing about his life being bullied, as opposed to

1819
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:39,640
Speaker 2: like a stand up about other things. It would have

1820
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 2: to be specifically about that for him to be able

1821
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 2: to loop that in. And I think that has to

1822
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 2: take a couple of years of therapy. And I also

1823
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 2: there's something else I wanted to say about about I

1824
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 2: And Okay, I don't know how to say this, but

1825
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say it.

1826
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 3: If you take it wrong, then you heard me wrong.

1827
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 3: I heard a lot of.

1828
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 2: Good previous Dave Chappelle in some of the way that

1829
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 2: he approached it.

1830
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 3: Not the Dave Chappelle that that showed up the last

1831
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 3: couple of years, but like the Dave Chappelle from.

1832
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 2: Before that level of of I don't even know how

1833
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 2: to put it, but like, I just kept thinking about

1834
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 2: Dave a couple of times, especially towards the end. And

1835
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:29,760
Speaker 2: I don't know whether maybe this was born out of

1836
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 2: conversations with him, because they spent a lot of time

1837
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:36,719
Speaker 2: together or him attempting to process it with his friend Dave.

1838
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 2: And this is some of the things that his friend

1839
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 2: Dave has said. But I just I heard some Dave

1840
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 2: in there, old Dave, not not I heard.

1841
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 1: I can see that.

1842
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 5: I think.

1843
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 1: I think another thing, though, I will say, stuck out

1844
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 1: to me because he came in so keyed up. There

1845
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 1: are moments where it almost feels like a person knowing

1846
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 1: a Chris Rock impression. At moments like with the walking

1847
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 1: and the like peeding, like because his energy was so high,

1848
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 1: like like I'm not telling y'all what to do with

1849
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 1: it just takes five minutes. If you really want to

1850
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:11,280
Speaker 1: see what I'm talking about, watch Tambourine for like five

1851
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 1: or ten minutes, then watch this special. This felt like

1852
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 1: like I think he even made a joke at the

1853
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 1: front about like getting the town to looking for the

1854
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: cocaine deal. I was like, cause he felt like he

1855
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 1: was on cocaine a little Like he was like yeah

1856
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 1: that joke.

1857
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 3: I was like, are you are? Are you getting things here?

1858
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this is I didn't know Chris Rock

1859
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 1: got done like this.

1860
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 3: I'm out of nowhere because he was like coke.

1861
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:37,800
Speaker 2: Jokes about right, Cocaine said, It's not like U like

1862
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 2: Mitch Hedburg or somebody, Hey, I does drugs?

1863
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 1: This Chris is this? Chris Rocker? Is this Chris Rocker?

1864
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 5: Pooky?

1865
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 1: Like who is this? For real?

1866
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 5: What's happening in uh? To kind of jump in something?

1867
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 4: And I will always say this and I will like this,

1868
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 4: like they say you go ten toes down, I'm gonna

1869
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 4: go ten toes down for this. A lie of people

1870
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 4: they jump up and say they would have hit him.

1871
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:07,800
Speaker 4: You ain't about that life, because I'm tell you right now,

1872
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 4: all y'all niggas will have criminal records, and don't none

1873
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 4: of y'all want.

1874
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 5: To be None of y'all want criminal records.

1875
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 4: All y'all want to go gallvant, you want your passports

1876
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:18,639
Speaker 4: and and want to go around this just this country free.

1877
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 5: So for me, I put my tin toes down and

1878
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 5: go bitches, you're lying. Well, also, it's just easy about

1879
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 5: that life criminal records.

1880
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: Well, it's also easy for people to say that because

1881
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: ain't nobody gonna come slap them at the oscars like

1882
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 1: it's it's never gonna happen. So of course you would

1883
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 1: have pulled out your gun and killed everybody in sight,

1884
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 1: like sure, Superman the other The last thing I want

1885
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 1: to talk about is what did you think about the

1886
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 1: after show? Or did you even get to see the

1887
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 1: after show? Boss? Is it still up?

1888
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 2: Like I didn't see anything. I didn't see that. I

1889
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 2: just saw the special. I didn't because I knew people

1890
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,600
Speaker 2: were talking about like something before and something after and

1891
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:52,679
Speaker 2: I and I didn't.

1892
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 3: I didn't.

1893
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 1: I think they promoted it as like I think they

1894
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 1: promoted it as something you could only see if you

1895
01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:59,719
Speaker 1: watch live. So the only thing I said, I didn't

1896
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 1: watch my Yes, eventually, yeah, it's gotta be someone got

1897
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:06,719
Speaker 1: it somewhere. But the only thing I'll say is the

1898
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 1: after show felt funny to me because it felt like

1899
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 1: when someone punches somebody and they fall down and then

1900
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:17,640
Speaker 1: a bunch of bostand to jump the person, because it

1901
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 1: really turned into like a fuck Will Smith moment. And

1902
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 1: I was like, that's interesting because I know you fake

1903
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 1: ass niggas would never say this if Will was there,

1904
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 1: like y'all see Will Smith, y'all will pretend that it's cool.

1905
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,559
Speaker 1: But it's like, because Chris finally said something, you can

1906
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:37,600
Speaker 1: now be like yeah, you know, And because it was

1907
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 1: like it was Dana Carvey and Chris David Spade who

1908
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 1: but they mostly just said nothing. They knew they were

1909
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 1: white and they didn't want to Yeah. If anything, they

1910
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:52,680
Speaker 1: were pulling back on jokes like I'm good, but our

1911
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 1: senior Hall was there lots of dunking on will That's why.

1912
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 3: They were talking about our senior. I'm so confused. I

1913
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:00,600
Speaker 3: know what was going on when people we're talking about it.

1914
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 1: Yesterday, von Orgy was there, Kareem I'm dude, Jabbar was

1915
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 1: there and JB. Smooth. Uh, the Kareem due Jabbar thing

1916
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 1: was funny because he had so much a misrespect as

1917
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 1: a man of principal. None of his jokes landed because

1918
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 1: everyone was like is it okay to laugh at this

1919
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 1: civil rights figure? Or should I bow and then exit

1920
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 1: the room? And JB. Smooth was silly as shit and

1921
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 1: he sounds he sounded like he was drunk. And then

1922
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 1: Vin ORGI was basically just avoiding problems. She had a

1923
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 1: couple of jokes, but it was like, I don't want

1924
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 1: to say anything too mad, and I know Black Twitter

1925
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:40,360
Speaker 1: is watching, so she tried to get in a couple

1926
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 1: like you know I did think you know, he went

1927
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 1: hard on Megan Marco and I was like, yeah, she

1928
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:48,599
Speaker 1: had to say something because you know, and and then

1929
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 1: uh the last oh, and then Arsenio was just being messy.

1930
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 1: He should have been the host though, because he was

1931
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:56,759
Speaker 1: I think he was great as a host.

1932
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 3: Who was a host?

1933
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 1: Who was Spaden Car? Really?

1934
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1935
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 1: They really?

1936
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:04,599
Speaker 3: I mean those are his boys. They go way back,

1937
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 3: so I guess.

1938
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 1: But they really didn't say shit. They just were there

1939
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 1: like they like literally every time a joke came up.

1940
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 1: There was one point where David Fade made one joke

1941
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:15,639
Speaker 1: and it was like, well, stay tuned for next weeks.

1942
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna show g I Jane two after this, and

1943
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 1: then everybody in the crowd started getting tight like ooh,

1944
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 1: and he said, what, I went too far? You know what,

1945
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm back out. I'm back out. I'm sorry everybody, like

1946
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,560
Speaker 1: like the white people basically were just there to facilitate.

1947
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 1: So all right, let's wrap this up.

1948
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 2: Can I just say, can you give me because I

1949
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 2: told you I wanted to talk about this. So I

1950
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 2: literally literally have alopecia literally, and I was just I

1951
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 2: was diagnosed right like the pandemic was March of twenty

1952
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 2: twenty April I was diagnosed because there was a lot

1953
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 2: of shit was going on.

1954
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 3: I was in the hospital, a lot of shit was

1955
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 3: going on.

1956
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 2: So part of like the autoimmune disease that I have,

1957
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 2: alopecia is a sim of that.

1958
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 3: So I've got alopecia. It's a specific kind.

1959
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:06,919
Speaker 2: So it's not like, like I said, have my eyebrows

1960
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 2: and stuff like that and my eyelashes. It's like I

1961
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 2: look like if I don't shave my head, I I'm

1962
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:15,600
Speaker 2: giving George Jefferson.

1963
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:19,639
Speaker 3: Like there's like that that. So there's that.

1964
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 2: So when people started to make this joke about it

1965
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 2: being alopecia, I didn't not I didn't see it.

1966
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 3: I didn't feel it.

1967
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 2: Because Jada had gotten to a point where she was

1968
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 2: talking about it on national television and talking about it often,

1969
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 2: I'm not there yet, Like this is the first time

1970
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 2: I've ever like spoken about it. I think I've tweeted

1971
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 2: like random things when I was looking for wigs and

1972
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 2: because somebody helped me.

1973
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:46,759
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know anything about wigs.

1974
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 2: So for me, the fact that she was able to

1975
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 2: speak about it the way that she did not say

1976
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 2: that it shouldn't hurt or did bother her. But when

1977
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 2: you get to that point, that joke doesn't hurt. That

1978
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 2: joke isn't the thing that sets off your partners.

1979
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 3: So I didn't buy that. I I didn't buy that.

1980
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 1: Well, you know, she and honestly as a woman that

1981
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 1: can speak for herself, as we all fucking know many

1982
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 1: of you want her to shut the fuck up. I've

1983
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 1: seen you say it. As a woman that speaks for herself.

1984
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 1: She said that she didn't want Will doing that. That's

1985
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 1: good enough for me. Dog, I don't need like y'all

1986
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 1: making her her making her supposed trauma about you is

1987
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:32,680
Speaker 1: the weirdest fucking stand culture bullshit I've ever seen. Like

1988
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: y'all don't even really go up for her like that,

1989
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 1: this is all about you. So yeah, it was literally.

1990
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 2: Weeks leading up they were like, I will pay money

1991
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 2: never to hear Jada Pinkett Smith say anything.

1992
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 1: Why do you keep talking?

1993
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 4: Yes, any kind of red taper talk. Go on Facebook,

1994
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 4: and I tied fun. I got to see posts about

1995
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,600
Speaker 4: niggas time my bit shut up, shut the fuck up,

1996
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 4: you and your daughter.

1997
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 5: Your grandma. We tied of y'all bitches like every single time.

1998
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh that was that was a that was funny though,

1999
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 2: when when when when Rock was like, we've all been cheated.

2000
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 1: On, sad across from an interview by the person that

2001
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 1: cheated on. So when I sucked that dick, how did

2002
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:12,599
Speaker 1: it make you feel? That was so good?

2003
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 3: That was so good?

2004
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 1: I think. Also also, and I promise I gonna wrap

2005
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:24,560
Speaker 1: it up, but also that last ten minutes is exactly

2006
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 1: why y'all never see me get mad. That is exactly why,

2007
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 1: because you see the way that this man had kept

2008
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:36,799
Speaker 1: a tally and was like, I'm finna oviscerate this nigga,

2009
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 1: and I don't give a fuck what side you were

2010
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:41,720
Speaker 1: on for that ten minutes. That room was on his

2011
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 1: side period. Even when he said bitch with Jada pict

2012
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 1: they were laughing like, oh he's going in. It wasn't Eu. Yeah.

2013
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 2: It was a clip of a woman in the audience

2014
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 2: who was like like, she was not upset.

2015
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 1: She was like yes, like and that's I'm afraid of

2016
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 1: that because I actually don't want that kind of support.

2017
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 1: And I know when I've done it before where I've

2018
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 1: gotten mad and I say enough shit, that's funny and

2019
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:10,880
Speaker 1: entertaining enough people like yes, and then I regret it later,

2020
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 1: like what the fuck? What is wrong with me? And

2021
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 1: so that's a very intoxicating but scary feeling. Vibe and

2022
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: feel into that. And I think we saw that in Chris,

2023
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 1: and I'll be interested to see what he thinks years

2024
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 1: from now. But clearly, you know, in the in the

2025
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:30,320
Speaker 1: immediacy of it, I'm sure he's fine.

2026
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 2: I do I do wonder because again, because it all

2027
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 2: felt like such an adrenaline fueled like ten minutes, I

2028
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 2: do wonder, like when he got alone for the first

2029
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 2: time after that, if he just kind of like, yeah,

2030
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 2: how he felt about her, how he feels about it.

2031
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 1: He looked kind of emotional to me at times, and

2032
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:54,800
Speaker 1: he did because I think I.

2033
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:58,600
Speaker 2: Think I'm soft, so I'm noticing the stuff and I

2034
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:01,520
Speaker 2: want to say thing. But I thought he seemed emotional.

2035
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:03,680
Speaker 2: Even when he dropped the mic at the end. I

2036
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:04,679
Speaker 2: thought he was gonna.

2037
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 1: Cry, And I was sure he wouldn't cry, but only

2038
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 1: because he thinks that would make him look weak. That

2039
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,800
Speaker 1: I was like the one thing keeping this man from

2040
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 1: falling apart in front of us, which is is such

2041
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 1: a crazy thing to say. If he fell apart in

2042
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:23,679
Speaker 1: front of everybody, that's when they chill out. And embrace them,

2043
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:24,920
Speaker 1: which is sad.

2044
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 2: It's sad like when he when he dropped the mic

2045
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 2: and the camera falls him backstage.

2046
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:32,760
Speaker 3: That was not a I just killed it like that.

2047
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 2: There was something else going on that walked backstage and

2048
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 2: they were like d micing him or whatever it was

2049
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,719
Speaker 2: they were doing, Like it felt like something.

2050
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:44,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess what I'm saying. But to me, that's

2051
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 1: not falling apart, like if he was like crying or something,

2052
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 1: like if he did an interview and he cried about it.

2053
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:54,920
Speaker 1: You see people a lot of people now all of them,

2054
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 1: obviously these hate group people are crazy, but you see

2055
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:01,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people who felt away be like, oh,

2056
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 1: that's right. He was just up there doing his job

2057
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 1: and he didn't ask for any of this. And he's

2058
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: obviously been emotionally hurt by all the shit that happened since,

2059
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 1: but he he would never I don't think he's ready

2060
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 1: to do some shit like that because he's fought his

2061
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 1: whole life to be seen as a man ever since

2062
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 1: he was little Chris Rock getting picked on. He's followed

2063
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 1: his whole life to get to this point and bam,

2064
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 1: he got knocked down the stairs again. And this is

2065
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 1: how he's getting back to the top, you know, all.

2066
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:31,360
Speaker 2: Right, And then and then it proved that everybody hates

2067
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 2: Chris to him like that title isn't like happenstance, Like

2068
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 2: I feel, yeah, I'm I'm One thing that I think

2069
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 2: pretty smart said in the chat is that we're not

2070
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 2: supposed to know this much about celebrities, and we're not.

2071
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 2: We're not We're not supposed to know. I think we're

2072
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 2: supposed to know towards the end of their celebrity, when

2073
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 2: they write the book, then we know, but like in

2074
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 2: real time, we're not supposed to know all of this.

2075
01:43:57,320 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 3: And I think that I.

2076
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 2: Think we're proving that we we shouldn't know this because

2077
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 2: of the way that we process it. Because for me,

2078
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 2: so much of now is showing that anybody who has

2079
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:11,879
Speaker 2: a little bit of fame or notoriety, positive or negative,

2080
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 2: whatever whatever people have decided you are, is who you are.

2081
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:22,599
Speaker 2: So no amount of vulnerability, no amount of anything, is

2082
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 2: going to change that. And I think that people need

2083
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:27,680
Speaker 2: to make and we talk about this too, Rod, like

2084
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:31,679
Speaker 2: you need to make a decision how much you're going

2085
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:34,719
Speaker 2: to reveal because of how much you're comfortable with people

2086
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 2: twisting whatever.

2087
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:38,640
Speaker 1: So It's just funny because the promise of all this

2088
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 1: social media and interaction and it was supposed to work

2089
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 1: the opposite way, like we were supposed to learn more

2090
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 1: about each other and see how much we were like,

2091
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 1: and it's just not. It just has not worked that way.

2092
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:55,719
Speaker 2: I've always believed, like since I was since i'd learned

2093
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 2: the concept of like good versus evil, or a church

2094
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 2: when you know, Sunday School and they're like, everybody's born

2095
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 2: in sin, and immediately I was like, that's not true.

2096
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:05,559
Speaker 3: I feel like.

2097
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 2: Everybody is is good and then things happen that kind

2098
01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 2: of like alter you know, whatever level of goodness that

2099
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 2: they are. But I believe that people are are ultimately good.

2100
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,519
Speaker 1: This is what I even if a baby bites people.

2101
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, BOSSI, I don't.

2102
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:25,600
Speaker 3: Know, but I think that I think that.

2103
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't mean to get too deep and just

2104
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 2: really quickly, but we've talked about I think that part

2105
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 2: of the problem that I've been having with social media

2106
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:36,719
Speaker 2: is being forced to think that people aren't good, and

2107
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 2: that I think is I don't know whether other people

2108
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 2: will admit that, but I think that that's a lot

2109
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 2: of the issues that we have in that in that

2110
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:49,679
Speaker 2: place because the people who the people who were looked

2111
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 2: as outliers back in the day are running the show now.

2112
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,600
Speaker 2: So now the people who have like real empathy, not

2113
01:45:56,720 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 2: this like contrived hyper vigilance or or saying that they're empathetic,

2114
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:06,000
Speaker 2: selective empathy or whatever. The people who are truly empathetic,

2115
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 2: the people who are truly compassionate, the people who are

2116
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 2: truly about progress and making the world better or wanting

2117
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:16,720
Speaker 2: things to be better for people are struggling because the

2118
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 2: people who don't are the ones who are the loudest.

2119
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 2: They seem to be multiplying because they're pulling in people

2120
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 2: who don't seem to have, like I don't want to say,

2121
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 2: a mind of their own. But they're not just going

2122
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 2: to going on to get along. And if the good

2123
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 2: people quote unquote start getting loud, then they switch over

2124
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 2: to that side too.

2125
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 1: Yes, people want community, and whoever's running the community, that's

2126
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,599
Speaker 1: where they go. So if the community is we all

2127
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 1: hate Chris Pratt, they're gonna run to the we They

2128
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 1: gonna hate Chris Pratt too, because they need to be

2129
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 1: with people. You know, the average user on Twitter gets

2130
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:51,720
Speaker 1: no one replying or liking that shit. So you know,

2131
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 1: what if you could talk about something though, and then

2132
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 1: people would like and retweeting and do it right? You

2133
01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 1: do it? Well? What if that is the easiest way

2134
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 1: to do to be like Chris Rock was never funny

2135
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,640
Speaker 1: to me, And that's how you go full circle? Guys,

2136
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:06,719
Speaker 1: all right, okay and go ahead.

2137
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:08,920
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, look you got it.

2138
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 4: It is And by sit was making me think when

2139
01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:14,400
Speaker 4: you were saying how we don't know a lot about celebrities.

2140
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 4: I was talking around as mom and I was telling

2141
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 4: her that I know that I am a complete outlier

2142
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 4: on and a lot of it, maybe because I'm older

2143
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 4: when it comes to social media. I have really gotten

2144
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 4: into audio books and I have literally been going back

2145
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 4: and a bunch of famous people, comedians, singers, and I've

2146
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,639
Speaker 4: been actually listening to like their audio books.

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Speaker 5: I just finished Trevor.

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Speaker 4: Noah and so and this is like his first book.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if he has a second one, but

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Speaker 5: this is like his first book.

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Speaker 4: And I was thinking, I was like, oh, he gonna

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Speaker 4: make another book after the day of the show, Like

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Speaker 4: it's definitely gonna be another book eventually about his life.

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Speaker 4: And so I was going back to a lot of

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Speaker 4: stuff in that book I was literally hearing for the

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Speaker 4: first time. And so for me, that's how I'm used

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Speaker 4: to consuming shit. I'm like, I don't need to follow you,

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Speaker 4: I don't need to instagram you. I don't need to

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Speaker 4: know what's happening every day in your life. Like if

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Speaker 4: something big happens and people talk about it, I'm there.

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Speaker 4: But I don't need to know these these intimate things

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Speaker 4: and all these things that kind of happen in a

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Speaker 4: normal day to day life.

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Speaker 5: I just don't need to know it. And so and

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Speaker 5: I guess that's why I don't have these.

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Speaker 4: Big swings when it's you do something that represents you

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Speaker 4: and you have to agree with me, and it's fucking

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't deal with any of it. It's

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Speaker 4: not right person, And I can still enjoy what you do.

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Speaker 4: They are great people to do fucked up shit, y'all

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Speaker 4: that we consume it enjoy.

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Speaker 1: It's not really celebrities. We know too much about us

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Speaker 1: really each other, you know, we didn't need to know

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Speaker 1: each other's every thought.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, the the the R Kelly Michael Jackson joke, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, bars, All right, y'all, I gotta wrap it up.

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Speaker 1: I gotta get out of here. I got some I

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Speaker 1: got I'm working a lot of jobs. Everybody, make sure

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Speaker 1: you check out BOSSI. She actually wrote a book. Her

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Speaker 1: book is called I'm Telling the Truth but I'm Lying,

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Speaker 1: and it's available everywhere Amazon, Bars and Noble Books, a

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Speaker 1: million Indie bow. We'll be back with more shows throughout

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Speaker 1: the week.

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Speaker 2: Well quick, if you follow me, if you follow me

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Speaker 2: on Twitter, look at my pen tweet. I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: send these boys to Barcelona in April. So if you

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Speaker 2: could donate, that'd be great.

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Speaker 1: Thanks the Twitter, Yes, yes, Twitter, all right, thank you, Karen,

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Speaker 1: go ahead.

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Speaker 5: And uh.

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Speaker 4: I listened to the audio book, y'all, And I know,

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Speaker 4: I know we got the readers to read, but I'm

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Speaker 4: telling y'all get that audio book because it is something

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Speaker 4: spectacular about hearing Bossi's words.

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Speaker 3: Book.

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about you, lady, No, no, I'm talking about you.

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Speaker 4: It's nothing like hearing her words in her voice. And

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Speaker 4: if you haven't listened, it's very moving because I was listening,

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Speaker 4: like god, damn, she's.

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Speaker 6: Trying to maybe cry while I'm I'm punching up numbers

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Speaker 6: and rolling through the tears, and I'm going through the

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Speaker 6: emotional roller coaster with her, and it's a beautiful book

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Speaker 6: that it really is.

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Speaker 1: All right, y'all, make sure y'all do that. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to wrap it up for the seventeen time. But we

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Speaker 1: get to we get to talking. Nobody cares about my

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Speaker 1: time is fine. You know it's fine. You only have

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Speaker 1: to write yeah, like yes.

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Speaker 5: You know, you know we start How do we start this?

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Speaker 5: Women be talking, women be talking. Come on that, Rod,

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Speaker 5: don't actually feel surprised.

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Speaker 1: All right, I gotta go until next time. I love you,

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Speaker 1: I love you too.