WEBVTT - Created Out Of Love 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:07.240 What's your family. It's your girl to make a d 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:10.479 Mallory and it's your boy and my son the General, 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:14.000 and we are your host of street politicians the place 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:18.799 and politics. What's going on with my son, Lennon? You 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:22.800 know me, I'm blessed, Holly favorite man. Just another day, 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:25.239 you know, another day above land. The Lord gave me 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:28.800 an opportunity to change it all around. Oh Lord, you 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:33.199 look we got we have uh two pastors coming up, 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.960 and you sound like you're already inspired. You're getting ready 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:42.640 to count the conversation the Lord that the Lord. See 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.240 how I got my black owned shout out to actively 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:49.040 black the black fist in the air and my home 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.800 girl tiff Lux with hermogul loading. So, you know, just 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.639 trying to support all black, black owned, black owned this yep, 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.520 I have my I Love being a Black woman hoodie 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:05.080 on just of black lives Matt No Black women's lives matter, Uh, folks, 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.120 I see a lot of people are picking up on it. 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:09.000 You know a lot of people are purchasing the brand 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:12.120 shout out to assist the Jamility Davis. She started it 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:16.160 with one sweatshirt T shirt that had the names of 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.600 iconic black woman and I'm proud to be one of 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.680 those named um you know on that shirt and she's 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:26.280 now grown it into a global brand. Uh. And so 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.960 this is the brown version. But I have this shirt 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.840 and another green or the sweatshirt and a green that 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:36.240 is totally popping. It's just dope, you know. It's just 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.360 just black people doing good things. And I have a 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:44.000 duffle bag from Actively Black that I love. Um, it's 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:48.480 actually real high quality leather, like a real nice stuffle bag. 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:51.600 I got a book bag that I love, but Actively 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:55.960 Black quality. You know, shout out to Athlete Black. Keep 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.080 doing it, man, They've got quality. Quality. We talked about quality, 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:03.720 but they got that. Yeah, that's what's up. You gotta 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.880 you know, if any brand needs to have quality, because 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:08.799 I don't care who it is. I don't care if 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:13.600 it's whoever the c D to the t P, all 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:18.760 the way down to Barbary. I wanted to be quality, 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:23.280 right like, I need every single thing that I've purchased 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.200 to have quality. I don't want the scenes to be 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.400 out of place. And by the way, a lot of 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:33.200 these major brands, they stuff ain't got that. Mother, It's 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:38.920 not worth like this at right. Yeah, the zippers aren't. 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:42.840 And I'm talking about eight nine dollar products or shirts 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.840 and whatever. This ain't right. That ain't right. The seams 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.880 are off. It's all types of trash that they're selling 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.880 out here. But I do know, unfortunately, the way we 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:58.079 operate in society, unfortunately, is that we're hard around. So 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.680 if you are somebody who's out there it's like trying 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:04.760 to do your thing, just know that quality matters, definitely does. 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.640 What is happening in the news, you know, you have 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:12.560 you seen the O. B J situation? You know, I'm 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:17.880 triggered around airlines and people, you know, being thrown off airlines, 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:22.600 and I was on vacation. So basically what happened, you 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.880 know Odell Beckham Jr. For those who don't know, O. 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.280 B J is um a couple of weeks a while 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.600 ago he had an incident that happened on the plane. 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:36.800 So it was a while ago. This is yeah, it's 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.080 the same situation. And now your body came from one 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.320 of the officers who came on the plane has been 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:48.400 released and it shows pretty much that Karen and Ken, 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.080 you know, got this man kicked off a plane for 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.800 pretty much is being tired. You know, the officer came on, 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.920 they spoke to him. He seemed he was you know, 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.840 he was alert. He told him what was going on, 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:05.480 and they insisted some two of the stewardess insisted that 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:07.360 he'd be taken off the plane. They didn't see why. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.800 They said, well, he's he's conscious. He seemed that he 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.600 just looks tired, looked like he was tired. He was 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:13.920 trying to say he was there. He didn't have his 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:17.880 pants on this, the officers said. The officers like, he 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:19.880 just looks something. He's like, he looks fine to me. 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:21.720 I don't know what it is, like, what do you 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:23.640 want me to do? Well, I can't do anything. If 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.200 y'all want to remove then somebody has to say it, 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.240 and they have to do has to it's a process 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:32.080 that has to go. So they literally had to take 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.320 everybody off the plane because he wasn't leaving, so they 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:38.520 had to deplane. And this is all for Karen and Kenny. 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:42.400 The man was sleeping, literally, oh it was. Their whole 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.920 complaint was that he was sleeping and they couldn't wake 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.279 him up to put his seatbelt on, whatever whatever. And 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:49.000 they were so mad at the fact that he was 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:53.720 sleeping that they called somebody to come over. They checked 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.280 on him somehow, they woke him up and didn't look 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.520 like they had a hard time waking him up. But 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.400 they also said something I read somewhere because I didn't 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.720 watch the video, but I read that they said his 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:07.560 pants was hanging down or something pants on and they 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.400 said he didn't have any pants on when we look 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.279 at the the overse like when, yeah, he has his 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:16.440 pants on now, so I don't know, oh, in the 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.760 conversation and they said, well, and you could tell it 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.839 was being very obnoxious because she called him a baby. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.080 She said, well, this the baby. The baby doesn't have 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.680 any pants on, the baby, and he's like so he looked, 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.200 he said he has his pants on there, and I 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.800 don't like they really did. You could tell that these 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:37.560 officials didn't really see will. The big deal was like 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.520 you in first class, you're sleeping on the plane, you 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.480 tie it like you know, Sometimes you don't, you don't 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.279 respond too much. Sometimes you just tired, you know. And 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.080 they said, well, we went him off the plane. We 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.680 have five hours, and nobody wants to deal with what 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.240 a man sleeping, if he was sleep, what do you 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:56.800 have to deal with hour? What airline was this. I 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.880 don't even know what airline it was. It really doesn't 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.719 say what airline it was, but whatever airline it was, 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.640 it wasn't a good look for them. It was not 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:10.160 a good look, you know. So but I was say him, 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.840 I'd sue the pants or the pants. And then it 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.480 was other passengers that were angry at him because they 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.800 had to get off with him. Yeah. Then one of them. 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:21.760 He started arguing with them, like you think I'm getting 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.600 off the plane for you, like you think you think 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.120 I'm definitely I probably get off for anybody else, but 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.839 you I'm definitely not, you know. And it was frustration, man, like, 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:33.800 come on, you're trying to get home and wherever you're 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.040 coming from, and you're on the plane and you gotta 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:40.360 go through all this because somebody's feelings was hurt or whatever. 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.360 You know, It's just it's power tripping. It is, man, 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.640 it's customer service and power trip and that this you know, 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.839 this is a lot going on. Man, It's just I 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.800 don't get it goes to the same thing, but it's 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:59.440 just so much, so much power tripping, and they have 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:05.000 it was American allies. Lord, he looked okay, very interesting, 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.360 very interesting, but um shout out to Odell Beckham Man, 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.240 get your lawyer, get you good old. I know you 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.840 don't need the money, but get it anyway. Not the 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:19.680 fifty cent. Fifty apologized to Meg patrolling her. You know, 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:25.360 he did a um he did an interview with Big Boy. Yeah, 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.560 big boys my god man. Like every time I see 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.160 he always shows me mad. Last time seemed he hugged me, 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.960 said I love everything that you do. Boom boom. I 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:35.160 love Big Boy man he and I love the way 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.840 he does interviews, and I just love where he carries himself. 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.920 He's always been dope individual. But on fifty was up 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.760 there and he was talking about um, how he was 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.200 trolling mag. He was one of the people, you know what, 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.040 saying she was lying or whatever, and he said he 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.000 wanted to apologize, you know, based on what he was 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.200 hearing online, like most of the people was getting, you know, 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.720 the fake news. That what he said. Nope, nope, no, no, 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.120 that's what he said. He said, Okay, no, that is 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.120 not what he said. He said he saw the interview 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:06.840 with Gail King right when he heard her he said 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:12.160 other things. No, he said, he said, when I watched 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:15.480 the interview with her, and Gail King, and she lied 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:20.280 about the sexual relationship. After that, everything that happened, it 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.600 just I just started to believe she was lying, So 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.040 any other thing that happened, I just thought she was lying. 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.080 So I'm just saying because and by the way, I 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:32.959 don't think denying a sexual partner rises to the level 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.920 that these people are jumping up and down about. So 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.280 I'm not trying to say I just know that they 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:42.120 would love to be able to say that we're providing 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.880 either bits and pieces or you know, not telling the 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.200 full story of what happened in order to you know, 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.960 only uh, support one aspect. So I just want to 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.320 make sure nobody's gonna say that we didn't tell the 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.839 story exactly like you said. Yep, he said. He so 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.880 the Gail King interview, and when he heard her say 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.319 that she didn't she didn't have a sexual relationship with Tory, 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:09.040 he said she was lying. But then after hearing the 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.560 the jail conversation with Kelsey and Tory, at that point, 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.800 you know, he came to the conclusion that you know, 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:20.800 he had and I just as a man, you know, 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.200 and and for me, it's like it's a lot of 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.360 other artists that I think, oh that woman apology, Who've 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.440 been silent? You know, who've been silent? Who do under 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.240 the bus? Who says ship? Who who added to the 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:40.480 pilon on social So it's like I think, just understanding. 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.400 Just as a man, you know, you realize you're wrong, 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.640 you realize you made a mistake. You know, and your 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:51.200 mistakes and your wrong doings harmed another individual. Just say sorry, 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.400 you know, so shout out to fifty for that. After 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.720 you listen to you can make up whatever you want. 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:01.559 Anybody who wants to make up a store about how nah, 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.000 he could have been saying this, and he could have 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.920 been saying that, and all of the stuff that they're saying. 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.839 You know, cool, do what you want. Anybody with good 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:16.520 sense that's trying to any okay, excuse me, common sense, 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.240 not even I don't even know if it's I don't 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:21.720 know what you I don't even know whatever you need. 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.760 When you listen to that tape, you know what the 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:30.160 hell that man is talking about. And that Fury knew 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.440 what was going on too, and they were not fooled 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:39.679 by the chatter of the sidelines, and they're doing his 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.240 Tory Lanes legal team is doing exactly what they're supposed 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.000 to do. They're supposed to file for a new trial. 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:46.800 He has money, he's they're supposed to try to get 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:52.840 a new trial. They're supposed to appeal. Right, this is process, right, 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.120 that's the you're gonna pell, you file, you put in 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:59.960 emotion to to get a new trial or citicide diverdict. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.000 The judge looks at it and says pretty none of it. 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.400 Ten times they say no, we're not gonna do that. 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.720 You know, maybe they will, maybe they won't. Here's what 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.840 I will say. It's not this part that is to me. 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.360 I think all these things that he's doing, yeah, that's 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.480 what you're supposed to do. The problem is that it 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.040 should have never got to this point period. It should 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.880 have been handled from the beginning. And I believe that 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.960 all parties involved, and we know because Meg tried to 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.960 say that it was glass enough foot right, So all 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.839 parties involved really did not want this situation to blow 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.320 up in the way that they did. But ego ego 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:43.960 is very dangerous, especially when your ego is being inflated 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:47.679 by the idea that nobody really cares about a black woman. 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.640 They don't she she was sleeping with this one. This happened, 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:55.439 that happened. The more to that information comes out, she's 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:59.880 discredited and more than likely the world will ignore her 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.719 and or and by the way, people who women at 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:08.040 all women, but specifically Black women, who claim abuse great 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:12.080 different things, you know, violence against them, they are It's 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.240 very similar to how the criminal justice system says you're 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.319 guilty until proven innocent, no matter how many times they 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.920 tell us that's not. But that's the same thing that 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:24.920 happens to women, and again specifically Black women, when they 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:29.439 report any type of abut they are liars. Everything about 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.080 their life is dragged out in the world for the 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:36.280 world to see, and they are destroyed until you have 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:40.320 something that is solid enough that people may believe you 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.320 know that they can believe that this actually happened to you. 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.360 And in that situation, I think I hear what Phthy 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:51.240 is saying. This man fifty cent is from the street. 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:58.360 This man tape he said as he said, this is yeah, 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.280 this is because we we for That's what I'm saying, 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.240 Like any it's no, it's no individual that from the 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.520 street that heard that conversation. It was like yo, he 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.720 was apologizing for telling them that they had it. It 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.840 didn't make sense, and none of it made sense. That 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.719 whole theory that just never made sense to me. It's like, 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:21.360 why would if I'm missing with Kelsey first and I 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:25.079 end up sleeping with Meg and then I tell Kelsey, 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.640 yeah I was, you tell your friend did this and 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.320 that to you and they fight over me and all 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.320 this ship happens. Why would I be calling Kelsey to 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:37.760 tell her to apologize to Meg about me telling him 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.800 about sleeping on Why would Kelly? It doesn't make no 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.640 sense to me. Why would you be calling a girl 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.120 that you cheated on to tell her to tell a 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.640 friend that you cheat on her? What that you sorry 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.040 for telling that you cheated on it? The only thing 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.920 about it is this when you keep saying that, and 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.440 you've given that example several times, and I just don't 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.880 that's the But what I want you to know is 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:08.200 that the example you're providing it is it's a fact, right, 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.640 like or at least I feel when I say it's 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.360 a fact. The fact that it doesn't make sense, like 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.320 we don't think it makes sense, but I don't. I 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:20.920 think that that's still leaves too much room for people 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:24.000 to try to consider because the reality is that you 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:28.040 don't never know what people will do. You don't even know. Really, 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.520 people are like, well, why would Kelsey do and say 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:37.920 because people they fucked up? Sometimes ship in relationships don't 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:42.200 go right, people make bad decisions, people can't be trusted, 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.720 people are fucked up individuals, and you find out in 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.760 the midst of a crisis who you're dealing with, who 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.080 your true friends are, who they're not like, that's that's 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.680 just the reality of life. All of us will have 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:56.520 some point where we will have to deal with it, 0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:00.320 and some of us are actually responsible for perpetuating to 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:05.080 behave there at some point teenage, now today, yesterday. That's like, 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.280 so I can't tell you why they were having or 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.200 who called to tell this that. In the third what 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:15.840 I do know is that in the call the man said, 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.960 I would never do no ship like that. That is ridiculous. 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.560 I would never do it. Like I can't believe I 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.280 was so drunk I did some ship like that that 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:30.520 right there when they when he said that the jury 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.760 people that hurt, they said, what time do we vote? 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:38.400 I'm telling you that if you're sitting in the jury room, 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:43.200 and first of all, the person that could potentially be 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:47.240 responsible or somehow play a role in this. Don't know 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:51.560 who paid for their lawyer after having to admit that 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:57.120 you did offer money at some point, and now the 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.360 person is calling you. The person who was a tipp 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.840 thing to pay for your whatever, give you money, is 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.640 now calling you told about I would never do no 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.360 ship like that. These people are not stupid. You can 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.720 play stupid, but they're not stupid, not at all, not 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:15.680 by not by a long shot. A teacher in the 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:19.720 New York school totally young boy, they couldn't go to 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:26.440 the bathroom, made him pee in a garbage can. After 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.720 he peed in a garbage can, he p some of 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:32.600 the the urine got on his clothes. They dressed the 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.440 young boy and put in garbage bags, put garbage bags 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:40.000 on and had him sitting inside of the classroom garbage bags. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:44.320 But today it is the most crazy ship. I'm going 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:48.400 to jail. I'm going to jail. Listen to me, and 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:52.200 the ain't even listen to me. It's not there's no question, 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.960 there is no what you said. It's dehumanizing. The trauma 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.360 that that young boy is gonna suffer just off that 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:06.960 one situation. It's gonna have ramifications and crazy down the 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:10.679 road effects and on his life. He has to picture 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:14.880 that he's embarrassed. He's watching his team, his schoolmates, he's 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:19.600 seeing the authority, his belief in authorities. It's all these 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.760 things gonna happen, you know, and it's like, wow, I 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:24.680 don't and I don't know what happened to the teacher. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.159 I didn't get the full notice what what you know, 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.560 the school did to the teacher, but it was it's 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:34.360 it's the most dehumanizers should ever that I've probably ever seen, man. 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.399 And I was. I was really taken back because having 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:41.160 having a nine year old and an eleven year old son, 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.800 you know, we're almost nine, who will be nine in 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.040 the next few days, Having an almost nine year old 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.680 son in the eleven year old son, I can't imagine 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:58.040 somebody calling me to their school. It's it's disgusting, it's terrible. 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.840 I mean, you know, I do share an other perspective 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:04.199 on it, though, and that perspective is that we do 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.400 need to invest more in our teachers, whether it be 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.959 getting rid of some of them that are crazy as 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:16.160 hell and um and and racist and despicable and all 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:20.639 that stuff, you know, all the bad words, or whether 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.640 it's giving them resources that they need to deal with 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:29.960 issues because a lot of teachers are freaking overwhelmed. They're overwhelmed, 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:34.640 and then when you get overwhelmed to a certain extent, 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:42.840 eventually you could and probably will make like your mental 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:46.320 health because you for you to tell a child to 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.920 be in the garbage thing, your mental health is something 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:54.240 wrong with you. You got a problem. So either you 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.960 always had a problem and nobody saw it and it 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:03.560 wasn't identified rather and then addressed, or you have become 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:07.360 your your mental health issues have become more severe over 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:12.040 time because you're overwhelmed. Either way, this should be one 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:15.680 what happened to him, the teachers should be held responsible, 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:22.400 the school should be held responsible, the district, everybody. Beyond that, 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:29.600 there needs to be some assessment of what's happening in 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.280 our schools and whether or not our kids are getting 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.600 the or our kids and our teachers are safe and 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:39.560 mentally stable. So I think that's the double edge too. 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.840 It doesn't mean that what happened is right. It just 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:46.239 means that what's wrong with it is not just what 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:49.960 the person did, it's the conditions that allow for that 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:54.399 type of serap scenario to even happen. So anyway, but 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:57.480 I tell you one thing that I read, and I 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:00.760 didn't really get too far into the story. I chuckled. 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:07.040 I found it funny that corporations are starting to reduce 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:13.679 requirements around college education for them to hire individuals. And 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:18.600 I was thinking, I mean, a dub, how many people 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:20.879 do you know they do not have a bit of 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:25.920 college education. But they can do marketing jobs, they can 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:30.919 do jobs with technology, they can do all types of jobs. 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:34.840 I mean so many different jobs right where they can 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:39.120 actually um where where they can excel and they could 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:42.639 actually help a company grow. Right, there's a lot of 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.400 people out here who did not go to college who 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:51.400 were able to um build businesses and brands and and 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:53.920 and really to educate them. So they didn't have opportunity 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.159 to go to college either. They couldn't afford it, maybe 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.320 just wasn't the right time. Maybe you know, it just 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.439 they didn't come from a family where that was the 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:04.800 normal trajectory. So it's a lot of people here that 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:07.520 did not in our society that didn't go to college. 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.000 And then there are people who went to college who 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:13.199 got all kinds of problems, right, mental health we just 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.520 talked about, they got mental I know people who went 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:17.959 to college, they got all the degrees, and in fact 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:22.960 they have issues that they're dealing with from their experiences 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:27.639 in college, from not being in regular society, having like 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.080 to fight and hustle to make it to where they 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:33.879 where they are. Um, you know that those and those 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:37.520 people are not as brilliant, if you will, as some 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:40.080 would think just because they have a college degree. And 0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:42.119 then of course we know people with the opposite. They 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:44.280 went to college, they did all the things, and guess what, 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:48.879 they are well equipped for the job and to help build. 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:53.040 So you don't you you can't make one cookie cutter 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:56.359 strategy and then try to fit everybody into it. You 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:59.160 have to be flexible so that you can find talent 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.280 and so that you can provide opportunities because you don't 0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:05.400 know people's stories. Somebody could be sitting right here, right now, 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:09.720 looking at an application for a job that they know 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:12.600 they can do, and they're in a situation they need 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.240 a job. They're ready to stay out the street, they're 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:17.840 ready to you know, make the right decisions. They don't 0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:20.000 want to go to jail. They don't want to harm anybody, 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:23.240 they don't want to do anything wrong right and they 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:26.240 want they know they can do this job, but because 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:31.040 they either have a felony or because they don't, they 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:33.400 might not have a good reference from the last job 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:36.920 where God only knows who was working there that started 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.840 some bullshit with them, or they're just a person that is, 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:42.880 they just a hater. Right, so now you can't even 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:46.600 necessarily get a reference from a previous thing. And or 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:50.560 in this case, you don't have four years college, two 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:54.280 years college, and so therefore it can't suse you out. 0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:59.760 And I think from a corporation's perspective, it's something that 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:03.720 they definitely should be doing, you know, looking at creating 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:08.960 other ways to find talent and to retain talent. Right, 0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:14.760 But when we start talking about government opportunities like being 0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:19.080 a police officer, that's a different story. And the reason 0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:23.200 why I say that is because the purpose of putting 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:27.800 a certain amount of college um, you know, credits and 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:32.240 a certain like associate's degree to be a correction officer, 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:37.919 and those types of um requirements, they are there to 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:41.960 reduce the pool to people who have had some type 0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:47.200 of life experience where they've learned cultural things other than 0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.280 whatever they know from their community. So if you just 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:54.040 if you grew up in a trailer park, which black 0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:56.639 people and white people grew up in trailer parks and 0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.000 there's certain type of culture in that area. You go 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:02.200 out to become a police east officer. That is actually 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:05.000 can be very dangerous because the way you see life 0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:08.080 is through one lens. But after you've go on to college, 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:11.880 you around other people, you're listening to your professor, you're 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:15.960 reading material, you are understanding things about the culture. It 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:21.080 is supposed to broaden your understanding and broaden your horizons, 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:24.240 which makes you more suitable to go into the world 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:26.119 knowing that there are different types of people other than 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.320 the folks in my trailer parker, in my projects, or 0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:32.720 in my community. So that's a different thing. It's a 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:37.040 different thing, you know, for public sake. Lived experience is 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.720 a thing for me. It is you know, you can't. 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:43.320 You can't like you can have somebody who's when is 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.920 a mechanic. His father probably told him how to work 0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:49.600 on causes he was three years old, never been to school. 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:52.720 You don't have any of these things. And you say, well, 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.080 you don't have this. You didn't go to school for this, 0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:56.800 and this might be one of the best mechanics in 0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:59.080 the world. You understand because he's been around. You have 0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.080 to live the experience some people have. Some people have 0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:07.000 family members and and um mentors who have taught them 0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:10.159 do this, and they went to college, you know, they 0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:12.720 have those type of teachers and those type of mentors 0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:15.560 who taught them. So, you know, I think this is 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:18.000 this is this is a move in the right direction 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:21.720 for corporations. You'll see more adverse I mean, you see 0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:30.840 more verse verse adversity within side of exactly. You'll see 0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:35.440 more diversity inside corporations. Now you'll see people with lived 0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:39.720 experience bay also coupled with those who have been to college. 0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:41.880 So then you get the both, you get the best 0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:44.679 of both worlds. You know. I always wanted my kids 0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:48.040 to be well rounded. You know, I didn't want them 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:50.639 to just go to private school and this, and I 0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.800 always wanted them to have the public school experience and 0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:56.439 then after a while maybe mature and you go to 0:25:56.840 --> 0:26:01.160 more of these um educational situ situations where it's more 0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:10.720 um individualized, and it's more you know all them prestigious, Yeah, prestigious, 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:12.560 more those things. I always wanted to have the world 0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:15.159 so they'd be able to live on both worlds. I 0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:18.120 think that's what I think that's what society calls forward. 0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:21.639 It's more it's more hybrid individuals. You know, it's no 0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:25.000 one or two things, it's more hybrid individuals. So shout 0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:29.360 out to the corporations for making that change. Yeah, I mean, 0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:31.320 and you know when you you brought up such a 0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:37.639 good example when you talked about the mechanic, because that 0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.600 same mechanic, who might be able to get a job 0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:44.919 at the you know, the local UH shop or whatever, 0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:48.360 the local car shop it because of the lack of 0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:53.080 college education and or the felony and or the situation 0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.639 that might have happened at another job, that person can't 0:26:56.640 --> 0:27:00.119 go work at Mercedes Benz. They can't necessarily get on 0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:04.639 the line at Toyota or you know, unless those companies 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:09.960 have a program where they're specifically looking for individuals who 0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:12.560 have backgrounds like that so that they can you know, 0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.200 work with them to try to transform their their lives 0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:18.560 and and and help to establish their futures. But if 0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.600 you don't have that, right, if you don't have those 0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:26.320 types of intentional program and you leave people out here 0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:28.760 in the world. And this is not a black and 0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:31.159 white issue. This is not a black and white issue 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:38.240 because you have Asians, whites and all types of people. Yeah, 0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:41.360 it's a classism issue. At this fact, it's a classism 0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:46.400 issue um and and that it's problematic. So hopefully this 0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:50.000 newfound approach, which I'm sure has something to do with 0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.959 inflation and after and and and now we're dealing with 0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:57.439 people returning um to work or not from the pandemic. 0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.440 There's a lot of things that they're anytime corporations do something, 0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.720 it's not it's they know that they're gonna benefit. Let's 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:07.080 just say that. So let me go to Matha to 0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:15.320 the day. You know, at some things I just don't understand. 0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.280 You know, Puff is our brother and we know him 0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:23.160 and love him. And I heard him on the Breakfast 0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:27.000 Club saying that at one point in his life he 0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:30.240 lied to women all the time and it caused him 0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:34.680 a lot of confusion, right, and so he decided at 0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:37.560 this age he just ain't lying. No, he's just going 0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:40.960 to be straightforward about what it is that he's doing 0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.959 and where he is in his life. And people can 0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:49.360 need to take it or leave it. Right, So we're 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:53.520 understanding that and knowing in his situation, and I'm sure 0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:55.920 it doesn't hurt that he's you know, on paper he's 0:28:55.920 --> 0:29:01.080 a billionaire, which means he's got access to immense uh capital, 0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:05.480 and clearly he lives a big life. Um, you know, 0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:08.920 I'm sure that all helps, but I'm trying to figure 0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:14.920 out why people are so mad about his relationship with 0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:18.920 your Miami. I just don't. People fear and they hate 0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.800 what they don't understand. And it's like, you know, as 0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:26.120 a man, I identified with the mentality of fasts. Like 0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:30.800 we've been taught from young to to lie. Our grandfather said, look, 0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:34.120 lie till you go to just lie, just lie you 0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:35.800 do it ain't what a man do is how you 0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:37.920 do it. You're supposed to do this and do this, 0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.240 and sneak and do all this ship and it ain't gotten. 0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.760 It ain't got the black man nowhere, especially in our community. 0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:47.040 It's it's cause more confusion, is cause more harm. Everybody's lying, 0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:52.480 but she and everybody's confusing everybody. So puffs position right, 0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:54.640 which I'm here, I'm hearing a lot a lot of more, 0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:58.000 a lot more men have the position to just being honest. Right. 0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.720 So when you look at that and then you see 0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:04.000 young Miami, she's she's clearly states I'm not looking to 0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.600 be serious for them. But I'm working on my brand 0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.880 and I'm having a good time. I'm not to marry 0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.200 a type, she said, I'm not. I'm not. That's not me. 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.520 She's clear about who she is and she found the 0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.440 man that fits who she is, and they seem to 0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.440 enjoy each other. The only confusion I see with them 0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:25.240 is the public. The public cause is more confusion between 0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.520 them because I don't I've yet to see them have 0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.520 issue and the issues they have one for sure because 0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:35.560 when he sent the flowers, uh, you know he was 0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:39.280 he was saying sorry for something, right, And let me say, 0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:43.720 let me say this because I don't want to seeing disingenuous. 0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:50.680 No woman, it's just all the way comfortable with what 0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.280 is going on in this. You can't see that, because 0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:56.240 then I don't. I just don't agree with that, because 0:30:57.080 --> 0:31:00.760 let me finish same, what I'm saying. That is not norm. 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:04.600 That is not That is not a norm. Most women 0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:10.960 would hope that a man loves you so much that 0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:14.480 he can't even see past you to anybody else, Right, 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:18.680 that's what That's what most people want. But when you know, 0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:21.000 but but and I when I say most, I mean 0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:28.840 nine point nine friends who yeah, but there's a reason 0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:33.120 for that. The reason generally, if you really start pulling 0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:37.360 back the layers, is because whatever damage has been done 0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.680 to them in the past, whether they put themselves in 0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:41.280 the position or not. I'm not trying to say the 0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.120 man was wrong all the way or whatever, But after 0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.840 they've experienced a certain level of trauma, they start to 0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:53.000 find new coping mechanisms and new ways of approaching life. Right, 0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:56.360 It's not like they didn't just start out being that 0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:59.160 way for the most part. I know there's probably a 0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:02.920 one percent that does, but it's not the norm. But 0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:06.680 what happens is that when you think about young Miami, 0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:11.160 she says herself, I literally come from the dubab right, like, 0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:17.040 I come from a situation pretty much that is not favorable. 0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:21.160 As she is attempting to grow in her brand to 0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.680 your point, in her life, the things that she's doing, 0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:28.560 she realizes that there's different there's different routes you can take. 0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.840 You can this is my assessment. I'm not saying I 0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:34.360 didn't speak to about it. I don't know. Puffin never 0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.040 said nothing to me about it, So this is just 0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:44.200 me gossiping, right mhm. She realizes that I can she 0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:47.320 already been with a man and had a baby with 0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:50.080 a man, and you see from some of the ship 0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:53.840 that has happened publicly where that left her right and 0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:57.840 what that situation looked like. So now, as a young 0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.000 woman who is aspiring to where it is that she's 0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.960 going in her life, she has a certain type of 0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:07.240 style and brand already. So it's not like this girl 0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:11.760 is coming out here as the nun. She is not that. Right, 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.200 Like we see what the city girl thing is in 0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:16.360 the vibe and the whole thing. We see that we 0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:21.040 understand it. She knows that puff has the ability to 0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:26.120 help her to grow in her career and to advance herself. 0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.959 And in the midst of all of that, he likes 0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:32.400 her like he really likes her. He likes her, he's 0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:35.880 invested in her, he cares for her. She she's getting 0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:39.360 to enjoy herself and and go places and see things 0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:42.480 that she would never have an opportunity to do, probably 0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:46.120 at this time if she wasn't in the situation that 0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:51.560 she's in. She's making a conscious, intentional choice to say 0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:53.960 I could do this for a minute. When I can't 0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:56.800 no more, I can stop. But right now it's quote 0:33:56.920 --> 0:34:00.200 I'm good I feel I'm good, I'm chilling right. The 0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:05.560 problem is that you might not like that. That's the 0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.839 this is the part that I don't. I don't. This 0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:11.200 is this is where I need to having. I'll be struggling. 0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:15.799 You may not like it, which means that that is 0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:19.160 not a decision that you will make. But for you 0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.920 to sit there and try to act like this girl 0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.560 is crying out to help and people need to do 0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.840 something to try to save or you're you're you're bugging, 0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.399 You're completely bugging. And that's my that's my whole thing, 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:35.840 completely bugging, because I don't see where she needs saving. 0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:39.279 You know. It looks like she's enjoying her life, you know. 0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.760 And if the media and social media will then focus 0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.200 on everything that goes wrong in a situation I don't, 0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:48.960 they probably would never have go not wrong, I mean 0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.719 that goes on in this situation. I don't. I don't 0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.160 really see where the problem is, you know, because they 0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.040 are dealing with two different spectrums. This is the other 0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.840 thing I was thinking about. You're dealing with two different 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:05.400 times in life. You've got a man who is a 0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:10.399 grown man who is coming to a point in life 0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:13.880 where things are going to change, right, Like that's just 0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:18.760 the nature of the world. Eventually, his situation is going 0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:22.200 to change. He's not even gonna have at some point 0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:26.160 the stamina to keep up with managing all these different things, 0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.360 because that's just that's just not that's not human nature. 0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.520 Eventually people slow down, you know, they start focusing on 0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:36.320 other things. May not be one woman, but he's still 0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:39.080 got a lot of fire, and he's still moving and 0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.920 shaking and doing what he's doing, and he sees where 0:35:42.000 --> 0:35:45.080 he's he's growing and he's getting older and things are changing. 0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:48.480 So he's living out his truth and living out what 0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:53.560 makes him happy. She also understands his situation because one 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:55.680 thing about is he is not He don't struggle to 0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.920 explain to you exactly what he's trying to do. You 0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:02.640 know it, You understand that. It's clear. So I just 0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:06.319 think that people in I think a good prayer for 0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:11.040 the system, because trust me, there's some cooked places. It's 0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:12.960 some moments when it don't feel good. I don't give 0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:14.879 you what you say. You can sing me and tell 0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:18.680 me until the world switches over that a man has 0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:20.800 a baby while you're in a relationship, and it gets 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.239 on socials and all these people are talking ship and 0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:26.480 having opinions that that don't bother. That's not true, not 0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.960 in my opinion. No, I don't think. I don't I 0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.719 don't think that. I wouldn't say that that don't bother. 0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:34.360 I don't know if. And that's what I try to 0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:36.400 tell you. It's the social media and the public of 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:40.640 beinion that causes the confusion because the relationship is what 0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:43.040 it is, it's always been, and it's always somebody else's 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.319 opinion of the relationship that makes you feel like you 0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:48.040 need to say something, you need to do this, or 0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.360 you need to feel away, and you know, and I 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:52.040 think that's who it is. I think the court of 0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:55.560 public opinion is always the place where it causes most 0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:59.399 confusion in relationships and friendships, you know. And that's why 0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:05.000 most successful individuals who have relationship, you don't see their 0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:07.680 their business inside the tabloids. You don't see it on 0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.160 social media. You don't see those things. You might see 0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:12.319 it once in a while, them out together this and that, 0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:15.680 but for the most part, they keep their relationships to 0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:18.880 themselves because once it gets the social media or media, 0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:21.840 it just turns the ship into a circus. So I 0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.879 don't you know, hopeful shout out to Diddy and creation Man. 0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:28.400 There's people out out here. There's people out here in 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:33.680 this world who are literally losing it over this situation, 0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:39.719 struggling and stressed about the most. And I don't mean 0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:42.760 to be rude or anything, but a lot of people 0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.520 are dealing with the same situation as those people are 0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:48.080 dealing with and they don't even know it, and they're 0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:52.839 dealing with it under false pretenses. They're dealing with less. 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.320 But no, there's people that don't. It's people that judging 0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.239 somebody and don't even know, don't don't they don't even 0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:02.600 know the full understanding of their own partner. And that's 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:06.600 just a reality when you have conversations and and and 0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:08.600 and that's why I respected he because at this point 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:10.799 he's getting to a point where he's honest about who 0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:15.880 he is. And when you talk to most men, most 0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:20.600 men have a completely different ideology in reality than what 0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:24.160 they let their partners to know. And it's just because 0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:26.799 we've been taught and why in that way, you know, 0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.200 we've been talking like people listen, I'm listening to Dr 0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:31.520 Umar Johnson, who wants like I want to have two wives. 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:35.080 I wanted in political or whatever, and people like a 0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:37.840 bunch of dudes, are you bugging? You bugging? Now, you 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.000 were saying if he was in the room with y'all 0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.040 and it wasn't on public and your girl and seeing, 0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:44.200 nobody wouldn't be saying youre bugging because that's not a 0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:47.600 conversation that they have in real life, you know stand 0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.560 I'm saying. So, I just think that it's so much, 0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:53.759 especially in this regard, in this conversation, that there's so 0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:57.080 much people that have not come to their own realization 0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:00.520 of being honest with themselves and being truthful that they 0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:04.120 they utilize just like it's like the pastor the pastor 0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:08.080 that you know that's gay, that's every every thing they're 0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:10.319 talking like, oh, we gotta get the gays out of here, 0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.960 and then you find out they're having sex or so's 0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:14.759 it's one of those things. It's one of those things 0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:17.880 that they used to cover up and try to shield 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:19.759 it off the reality what they dealing with. So a 0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:21.960 lot of men are dealing with that. Man. Shout out 0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.680 to Diddy, Shout out to Karasia for just living your truth. Man. 0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:28.920 So now our guests, as a married couple that ain't 0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:33.040 living like Karasia and Diddy. They got a whole different situation. Man, 0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:41.919 let's bring them on. So today we have two new 0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.520 guests who haven't been here before, who are going to 0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:47.120 be our friends, because that's the running joke on this 0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:51.080 show that everybody we interview as our friends. But these 0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:57.040 two love birds turn entrepreneurs and life changers. So they 0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:00.840 are the co founders of Cool Creative and Cool Church 0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:05.359 and we're just happy to have you. Um, I've been 0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:09.520 blessed to have one of these cool jackets. Is also 0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:11.840 so you know, we've been a fan ever since we 0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:14.759 got those jackets. They were amazing, you know. Shout out 0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:18.480 to our friend and yours the cole chaplain who put 0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:22.760 me up. Shout she's the one who got me my jacket. 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.759 But to me, you know, she's famous. She was in 0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:26.759 the video Rhapsody where they all had the jackets, so 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.640 the famous people got the jackie's first. But you know, 0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:32.759 I just how you guys are doing today. That's a 0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.600 beautiful day. We're so glad to be here, just honored 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:39.560 to be um Or with y'all. Man, y'all the world changes, man, 0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:42.160 y'all on the front lines making things happen, and we 0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.600 always want to connect with folks that are doing something positive. 0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:48.000 So thank you, thank you so much, so much. That 0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:53.240 Wall is phenomenal. I like that this is all his stuff. 0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:58.719 He's the illustrator. Oh wonderful, that's wonderful. Well listen, first 0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:01.640 of all, welcome the Street Politicians. And you know, my 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:05.040 son mentioned the sort of running thing that we have 0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:07.800 that everybody's our friend because we have so many friends 0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:12.320 that's doing powerful things around the world. Uh. And whether 0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:14.720 you start out our friend or become our friend later 0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:18.120 somehow or another, we sort of become family because we 0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:20.719 are really looking for We don't We don't have a 0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:22.640 lot of people on our show that we don't agree 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:25.799 with or that we're fighting back and forth, even though 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:31.640 that that's my son's Instagram he does that. But on 0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:34.920 Street Politicians, we really do try to make sure that 0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:38.520 those gems that are out there that people don't know about, right, 0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:42.000 because we complained there's no you know, we don't have this. 0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:45.600 What we don't have we can't find services, we can't 0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:49.080 find good customer service. Uh. And yet there are companies 0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:52.799 like who Creative that exists that I've had a great 0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:59.200 experience with. So I do have the phenomenal slash historic 0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:05.040 for Earth jacket which has on it your illustrations. Obviously 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:08.959 we're now learning terrence of black women and others who 0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:14.920 are our icons, right, That's all that was in the 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:18.360 video with Rhapsody others on that shot, and that shoot 0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:22.279 had jackets on shoutout to Rhapsody, that's our sister, UM 0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:26.920 and so that was amazing. But then Nicole Chaplin gave 0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:30.280 me another jacket that was a tribute to my book 0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:33.799 State of Emergency. So I have all of that in 0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:37.080 my in my closet that I do wear, and you know, 0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:39.920 I just wonder, I guess the question first question is 0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.839 why do that business? Everybody else trying to do, you know, 0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:48.520 entertainment and what's popping, what's lit. But you guys are 0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:53.040 making history and icons cool. Why are you? Why did 0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:56.440 you choose to make Cool Creative about that? I think? 0:42:56.600 --> 0:43:02.200 UM for background is we started UM with Cool Creative 0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:05.759 as a branding and a design agency. So we were 0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:08.680 doing that for quite a while, working with large and 0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:12.759 small businesses, bringing ideas to life and doing all that 0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:17.719 and UM and about five years into it, we got 0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:21.840 into the fashion space. Uh, Terrence was drawing these great 0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:24.800 illustrations because he was trying to teach our daughter, who's 0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:28.759 now twelve, but she was six at the time, where um, 0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:31.400 he was trying to teach her about the icons of 0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:34.920 our culture, of of our history, people that made a change. 0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:38.400 And so you know, he's an illustrated by choice, by trade. 0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:41.480 I'm in design. We met in art school, which is 0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:44.080 the whole create out of love, if you don't know, 0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.920 COOL stands for create out of love. And that's not 0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:50.000 only a mission for us, but that's kind of like 0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:54.080 our back story as well. We met in a creative 0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:58.240 space doing creative things, and we've been creating ever since together. 0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.800 And so anyways, he was doing all of these illustrations 0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:05.440 as a way to teach our daughters about um, real 0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:09.200 icons that she could look up to. And I love 0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:11.400 the drawing so much, and I was like, I'm about 0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:16.319 to put this on some clothes and I did, and um, 0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:19.279 this is like when I first started getting onto the 0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:22.759 social media's and things and um, and then I put 0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:25.720 it up and people wanted them. So I was like, Okay, 0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:28.560 well demand is there. Let's see if we can move 0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.520 these pieces. We moved them and then we just kept 0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:34.760 and that's just kind of like the rest is history. UM. 0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.040 Of course, there's a lot more that went into it. 0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:42.040 There's there's you know, failure, there's winds, there's Grammys, there's 0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:45.080 all kinds of stuff. There's you guys, UM that are 0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:48.360 part of the story as well. UM. But it all started, 0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:52.840 UH with a passion project, something that my husband was 0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:55.920 doing to teach and to help our daughter, and we 0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:58.680 saw an opportunity. But I also want to touch on 0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:03.200 the fact that the culture spends so much money on fashion, 0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:08.640 especially luxury fashion, that don't love them, and we're trying 0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:12.279 to help, you know, we we're trying to represent or 0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:16.080 be one of the brands that represent us and UM. 0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:20.000 You know, there's so many of us that are that 0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:24.960 are making more money, doing more things, open starting more businesses. 0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:27.479 So you know, people want to look good. People wanna 0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:31.319 you know, represent UM, you know their values, and so 0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:33.760 we're like, where is that brand? And so we didn't 0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:37.480 see it, So we created it. UM. We're We're We're 0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:39.920 the brand. We want to be known as the brand 0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:44.440 or at least one of the pioneers of UM the 0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:48.920 fashion brands that are for us by us. Shout out 0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:55.919 to Fubu, But but like that really connect with who 0:45:55.960 --> 0:46:00.200 we are, and specifically in luxury fashion, we will want 0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:05.440 high quality luxury fashion that represents us because we deserve 0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:09.720 the best. We deserve quality and um something that honors 0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:12.439 us and that and that doesn't mean that we don't 0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:15.319 invite other people and allies and you know, people that 0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:17.440 want that want to be part of the culture into it. 0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:20.359 But we gotta love us first and make something for 0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:23.919 us first. And that's what we're all about. I love 0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:27.279 that answer. And you know I've been I've been very 0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:30.839 adamant about black owned businesses and US especially this year, 0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:34.360 US supportant you know us and putting money back into 0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:38.919 our communities and putting investing into generational wealth like every 0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.960 other you know coaches seems to do. You know, I 0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:45.480 love the idea and I love what you guys have 0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:48.560 here and and just it was created out of love, 0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:50.880 you know what us. Who are some of the artists 0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:52.600 that you've been working with, you guys have been working 0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:54.840 I've seen these jackets. I don't know all of the people, 0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:57.279 but give us name drop a little bit. Man. You 0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:59.000 gotta you know, you gotta probab your chest out a 0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:03.880 little bit. You've seen rap City you've seen a fabulous 0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:08.280 uh at times, we've seen Colin Kaepernick rocking the Angela 0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:11.440 Davis T. I mean, it's it's definitely been getting around 0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:14.160 a lot. And just like my wife was saying, like 0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:17.400 it all really um stems from a heart of education. 0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:19.760 Man Like, yes, we want to make a luxury street 0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:22.560 win things like that, but also we want to start conversations. 0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:24.680 And I think that's been like the most beautiful thing 0:47:24.719 --> 0:47:27.480 that we've seen as we've seen this brand go from 0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:29.799 place to place. Killer Mike was wearing it that the 0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:32.799 Grammys and different things like that. But once again, it's 0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:36.319 all with a purpose of education. It's conversation starters. If 0:47:36.320 --> 0:47:39.399 I walk around with Angela Davis been nine times out 0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:41.799 of ten when I'm walking around, people like who is that? 0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.200 And I get to start telling stories and say things 0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:48.560 that Angela Davis said, like walls knocked down, sideways, Bill bridges, 0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:50.480 Like that's not a normal quote that you were here, 0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:52.759 but that's a quote that comes up in conversation when 0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:55.480 you talk about the icon when I would don't shoot pin. 0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:59.960 It starts conversation, and some of those conversations their energy 0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:03.320 of the conversations. But I'd rather have the conversation and 0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:05.919 not so once again, it's not about just wearing something 0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:08.800 that looks good, not just about wearing something with the quality, 0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:11.839 but man, the education and the conversation is important to 0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:15.320 advance the culture. So I'm so thankful that so many people, 0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:19.040 i mean, Damian Lillard of that's the cezirely so many 0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:20.959 people have jumped on it. I can keep saying names 0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:22.840 that I hate name dropping. What I'm just saying, like, 0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:25.600 you know, sometimes we gotta do it then because we're 0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:27.719 black and we dope and we're doing dope stuff and 0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:30.279 we want we want people to know that it's not 0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:35.040 even though it's not the big nationwide puntion, but people 0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:37.400 know that you've been doing work, you know, and people 0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:40.720 recognize and I want to also like, you know, um, 0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:43.279 it may seem like, you know, the way that we've 0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:46.200 been able to connect with these these big names is 0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:49.399 because we got this machine behind us. But it's it's 0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:57.360 literally and and you know, there's no PR agency, although 0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:00.120 we have family that's in PR. So whenever they and 0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:02.960 we got people like our our our girl Nicole that 0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:06.960 connected this, it's like, you know, through relationships, we've been 0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:10.040 able to get it on some really great people and 0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:13.600 straight up like slipping into d m s and emailing 0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:16.680 and calling and just and I think what's really made 0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:19.000 it made it go, and I think it could continue 0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.839 to go further. But what really has been pushing it 0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:25.880 and it's been getting into some um, pretty influential hands, 0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:29.880 is because it connects with what people have been thinking. 0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:33.799 I love that when, um, I have seen people walk 0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:36.600 into a space, whether it's our store, we're doing a 0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:39.520 pop up, and I see like they'll walk in and 0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:42.520 they're kind of like confused, but then they're so excited 0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:45.440 and then their eyes start to light up and they're like, 0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:48.760 this is this is what I didn't know I needed, 0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:52.560 but I needed, you know. And I think that it's 0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:58.440 resonating with the right people because it's answering something that, 0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:01.960 uh that we you've all been crying for. Everybody who 0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:05.680 wants justice, we need, we deserve justice. We're owe justice 0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:09.040 as human beings. And I just feel like, you know, um, 0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:12.000 this was our response as artists. I think everybody has 0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:16.160 their own platform, right. Our platform is are in design, 0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:19.000 and this is the way that we're trying to make 0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:22.359 moves and get the message out in this space, right 0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:26.080 you know, it's it's interesting you say that because one 0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:28.359 of the things we talked about last week on our show, 0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:30.680 you know, as we now have just had Dr king 0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:35.720 Day two days ago, acknowledging his birthday. Um, most people, 0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:38.759 let let me just ask you, do you guys know 0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:45.320 why cebe Wanted made the happy Birthday song? Oh no 0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:53.160 no good and I'm supposed to be no stuff And 0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:56.000 I didn't know, right, although I found out my parents 0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:58.120 and my sister knew, So I'm not sure why didn't 0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:02.279 passes it's going, but it was. Actually the song is 0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:06.600 a tribute to Dr King. He made the song during 0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:11.320 the fifteen year period where Congressman John Conyers was fighting 0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:16.359 for the federal holiday to be you know, secured where 0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:19.400 Dr King's birthday would be celebrated as it as finally 0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:22.960 it happened. Um. And so when you talk about everyone 0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:26.759 playing their role, fashion is a role uh where aret 0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:31.040 is told and we're politics and and the movement is 0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:36.360 examined through an art expression through fashion. Right. Um, the 0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:40.759 same existed in that moment where Stevie Wonder was trying 0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:44.239 to figure out how could he add his voice to 0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:48.680 a movement for something that black folks and other people 0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:53.200 around the country agreed needed to happen, to celebrate, to honor, 0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:57.920 and to remember Dr King. Too often we find ourselves 0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:00.640 bumping up against one another, everybody trying to do the 0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:03.440 same thing, because you watch someone and you're like, well, 0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:05.320 I'm gonna go do that because I got the passion 0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:07.799 I want to be in instead of figuring out what 0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:11.680 is your your what is your skill set? What do 0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:15.040 you mean at your fingertips that you can do to 0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:20.080 bring flavor to a movement that needs voices, It needs art, 0:52:20.360 --> 0:52:24.440 it needs expression, it needs everything possible to give entry 0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:28.160 points for your daughter and her friends to feel it's cool. 0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:31.759 Maybe it's to sing about it, you know. Maybe it's 0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:34.279 to write about it. Maybe you know. It's so many 0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:36.920 different ways. So with that being said, I see what 0:52:36.960 --> 0:52:39.040 you all are doing, and I think it is a 0:52:39.120 --> 0:52:42.320 model that so many of our people really need to 0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:46.040 take heed of what you've done and how it continues 0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:49.520 to expand the reach of our movement. The only other 0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:51.279 thing I wanted to ask on this, because I'm sure 0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:54.560 we're gonna talk about the church, is the quality of 0:52:54.800 --> 0:53:03.000 the clothing. That's a big black business issue. I'm not 0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:08.360 gonna say problem. And I'm not saying that other communities 0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:11.680 or other uh say what you want to call it. 0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:16.160 Other industries don't have poor quality because there's trash out there. 0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:20.200 You order stuff that comes from wherever and it's not good. 0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:25.000 But but we do have an issue with that as 0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:28.600 Black folks. When you go trying to support certain brands, 0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:34.839 things are falling apart because obviously capital two enhance your 0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:39.120 products and to develop something that is quality, it's difficult 0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:42.680 to obtain that type of capital. So to talk about that, like, 0:53:42.960 --> 0:53:45.520 how have you all been able to keep such quality? 0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:49.279 Like your jackets are actually warm a normal circumstances. When 0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:52.920 you buy those types of jackets, they're not warm. They 0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:57.239 they don't feel good on your skin. Yeah. Absolutely, and 0:53:57.680 --> 0:53:59.600 joy to get more into the technical side of it. 0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:02.960 But here the philosophy that we have definitely taken um 0:54:03.040 --> 0:54:06.520 as we're constructing clothing and designing things, were in the 0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:09.160 cutting so and all that UM and the philosophy is this, 0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:12.879 don't create what you can't sustain. Like a lot of times, 0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:14.839 I think people just want to put out a lot 0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:17.160 of something, and because they want to put out a 0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:20.279 lot of something, they'll let quality suffer. We took ls 0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:22.440 in the beginning because we said, you know what, We're 0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:24.879 just gonna put out limited qualities of these things because 0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:27.360 whatever we put out in the atmosphere, we want to 0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:30.760 make sure represents us properly. And we began to grow 0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:34.560 as we were able to bootstrap to attain more capital, 0:54:34.719 --> 0:54:37.480 and by bootstrapping a game more capital then we were 0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:40.279 we were able to produce more products, but initially in 0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:42.600 the beginning, and it's something I would tell any young 0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:44.480 designer that's trying to do it the way that we 0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:46.680 do with trying to trying to sneak in the culture. 0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:50.719 It's like, hey, start stuff on limited runs, like put 0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:53.840 the put the value into the piece that you're making. 0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:55.680 You don't have to do a lot because if you 0:54:55.760 --> 0:54:59.360 do a little and it hits, then the demand is there. 0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:02.320 So you wanted to make sure that the quality was 0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:04.520 there because we knew if the quality was there, then 0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:06.200 they'd ask for more and we will figure out a 0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:08.719 way to make more. So, yeah, we'll never create something 0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:11.040 we can't sustain. And that's a model that we stretched 0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:14.600 throughout our entire business, church, everything that we do. That's 0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:17.319 really at the forefront of the philosophy. Yeah, and I 0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:20.520 think um, with the with the quality and the sourcing 0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:24.640 of of of the pieces, they've gotten better. I will 0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:27.520 say when we first started, they weren't as good. Especially 0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:36.520 the jackets were have been pretty six um um consistent, Yes, 0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:38.960 in their quality and as a matter of fact, they 0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:42.239 are getting even better. But with the shirts, we had 0:55:42.280 --> 0:55:45.040 some problem. We we really had some challenges there because 0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:48.040 we were using blanks and we were limited to what 0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:50.800 was already out there. We didn't know, um, we didn't 0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:54.360 know a lot, and we just kept researching, researching, And 0:55:54.400 --> 0:55:58.120 I think that's the one of our differentiating factors is 0:55:58.160 --> 0:56:02.000 that we continue to improve where we are just satisfied 0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:04.440 with just you know where we are today. It's like 0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:07.480 I believe that our customers, if they're going to spend 0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:09.520 that money, that we want to make it worth their 0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:12.920 while and so um and not just in product, but 0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:17.960 also service. There's been some times where you know, because 0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:21.440 you're you're running so much, you're gonna have some problems 0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:23.799 issues here and there. Thank god, we haven't had a 0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:27.239 lot of them, but when we did, we stand by 0:56:27.280 --> 0:56:30.880 our product and we will fix the issue and send 0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:33.440 them a new one or or whatever it is. And 0:56:33.480 --> 0:56:37.160 We've seen that a lot with with customer service especially. 0:56:37.200 --> 0:56:39.960 It's like, you know, you're talking about a lot of 0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:43.719 our businesses. Um, a lot of times it's a lack 0:56:43.760 --> 0:56:47.319 of customer service to the product is not just the 0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:50.799 physical thing, but it's like the experience that somebody has, 0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:54.080 so um yeah, so that's really important to us. And 0:56:54.080 --> 0:56:56.560 then once again it's like it's the name that we 0:56:56.640 --> 0:57:00.120 stand by. It's created out of love. Like if I'm 0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:02.000 if I'm gonna create something and saying I'm doing it 0:57:02.040 --> 0:57:03.879 for the love, then I'm not showing you love when 0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:07.120 it falls apart on you, like that stuff actually matters, 0:57:07.160 --> 0:57:10.480 like you on our name to mean something. It's not 0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:12.880 like we're sitting here and saying, oh man, we're just 0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:15.200 creating stuff and we're not worried about the money. But 0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:17.880 I promise you the money wasn't the first objective. The 0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:22.040 education was the first subjective. What we were presenting for 0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:25.400 us and people like us was something that we knew 0:57:25.440 --> 0:57:27.360 that they could hold onto a long time, Like she 0:57:27.840 --> 0:57:30.760 knows me, I'm gonna sneak ahead. I got probably too many. 0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:32.960 But and it's not just because I keep attaining them. 0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:35.880 I take care of what I have um leaving the 0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:38.840 principle of stewardship. So once again we want to give 0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:41.280 you quality items that we know if you take care 0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:43.720 of well, man, they'll last you a lifetime. So that 0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:45.840 that once again that goes back to that love piece. 0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:48.920 We're gonna make it and put inject the love in 0:57:48.960 --> 0:57:50.520 it because we want you to. We want you to 0:57:50.520 --> 0:57:52.880 feel that when you wear, if you feel loved when 0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:54.919 you wear, or you feel like, man, they really took 0:57:54.960 --> 0:57:57.920 their time on this then man, that shows that we 0:57:57.960 --> 0:58:00.240 got a successful business model and we always want you 0:58:00.280 --> 0:58:02.760 to feel a love when you feel in garmage, I 0:58:02.800 --> 0:58:06.160 think you touched on something um and and in essence 0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:09.760 you were saying to macauld stay in your lane. And 0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:12.360 I think a lot of what we're seeing, especially with 0:58:12.400 --> 0:58:15.480 a lot of businesses, is that of businesses that are 0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:18.560 run by by entrepreneurs of colors that they're not staying 0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:21.520 in their lane. And we're seeing evidence of that in 0:58:21.600 --> 0:58:25.520 the product and the service and all of that. Understood that, 0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:29.200 you know, we want everybody to create and sustain a 0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:32.720 business for themselves and to to win and thrive. But 0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:37.160 if that's not your expertise and you haven't educated yourself 0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:39.680 or or done what you need to do to master 0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:42.520 that area. Then maybe that area is not for you 0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:45.560 find something that is. And so for us, we know 0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:48.800 that this is our space. And and just because it's 0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:51.120 our space doesn't mean we can't improve. But we don't. 0:58:51.320 --> 0:58:53.960 We're good at what we do. That I'm saying, like, 0:58:54.120 --> 0:58:56.080 I don't name dropped, but I could name drop my 0:58:56.080 --> 0:59:00.320 skill like like I'm like, we're really good at what stop? 0:59:00.520 --> 0:59:02.840 You stop? You know what I'm saying, Like, and we 0:59:02.880 --> 0:59:05.640 know what we're doing and we have you know, we've 0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:08.919 studied it for years where he's a master in art 0:59:09.080 --> 0:59:12.160 in art like degrees like we have you know what 0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:15.560 I mean, we do this, I mean we we are. 0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:20.400 Can I just ask one last question? And uh, in 0:59:20.520 --> 0:59:24.480 terms of sales, right, let's talk about that for a moment. 0:59:24.600 --> 0:59:27.439 The pitfalls of you know, as you said and begin 0:59:27.960 --> 0:59:30.480 it was you take you took a lot of ls. 0:59:30.480 --> 0:59:35.160 How have you grown? I'm sure there's leaps and bounds, 0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:39.040 you know. I just saw that Pinky no, no, not 0:59:39.160 --> 0:59:43.880 Pinky my l Organics, which is the hair that she 0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:46.640 was just picked up by you know, bought by PNG. 0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:51.919 She will remain, uh, the CEO of the company but nonetheless, 0:59:52.480 --> 0:59:55.640 um that is now you know, that's a big win, right, 0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:59.720 It's a big win because we should have the resources 0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:04.040 to grow our brands from these major brands that have 1:00:04.160 --> 1:00:07.920 been taking money from our communities forever and ever. And 1:00:07.960 --> 1:00:10.040 I see a lot of people who are concerned because 1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:13.240 they claim, you know, they're saying shape moister, they changed 1:00:13.400 --> 1:00:17.720 the products, you know, after white folks got involved. So 1:00:17.800 --> 1:00:21.400 what is your feeling about that? The scaling in terms 1:00:21.480 --> 1:00:25.200 of this you know, capitalistic society, unfortunity that we live in. 1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:27.200 Where are you now? What were the pitfalls and where 1:00:27.240 --> 1:00:30.840 you think you're going? Yeah, I think you know. Bravo 1:00:31.000 --> 1:00:34.640 for her. She made a deal. Um, we're learning more 1:00:34.680 --> 1:00:37.480 and more about the details of that deal. Um, she 1:00:37.560 --> 1:00:40.360 will remain CEO, so there meet there is a level 1:00:40.360 --> 1:00:44.040 of control that she'll be able to maintain. Actually start, 1:00:44.120 --> 1:00:48.600 My first job was actually with PNG and they they, 1:00:48.840 --> 1:00:53.880 at least internally, they were really good at highlighting people, 1:00:54.320 --> 1:00:58.280 well black people. Um, they were we Like I was 1:00:58.400 --> 1:01:00.600 just going in and I was at the able with 1:01:00.680 --> 1:01:03.480 the CEO of the whole organization, you know what I mean, 1:01:03.520 --> 1:01:06.840 Like my first year in they and and they were 1:01:06.840 --> 1:01:12.040 asking my opinion and actually implemented things. Um, that saw 1:01:12.160 --> 1:01:14.720 the light of day. So you know what I mean, 1:01:14.760 --> 1:01:17.680 I'm like, I'm not gonna stay mad forever. If I'm 1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:20.720 asking for justice and justice is here, I'm not gonna 1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:22.920 throw it back in their faith. And so I feel like, 1:01:23.280 --> 1:01:27.360 you know, she made that deal. Um, we're I'm trusting 1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:30.360 that the deal was above board and she got everything 1:01:30.400 --> 1:01:33.200 that she wanted. And she has every right. Listen, we're 1:01:33.360 --> 1:01:37.480 in business to to to meet needs. But at the 1:01:37.560 --> 1:01:41.160 end of the day, it's not a nonprofit organization absolutely, 1:01:41.240 --> 1:01:43.800 as what I'm saying. And so if that was part 1:01:43.800 --> 1:01:48.040 of her exit strategy, then more power to her. And 1:01:48.040 --> 1:01:51.520 and if and if for whatever reason the product gets 1:01:51.520 --> 1:01:55.240 watered down, hey we can always create another. So my 1:01:55.240 --> 1:01:57.720 my ideas are infinite, and I know hers are too. 1:01:58.720 --> 1:02:02.120 She worked hard to get to this point. Yeah, we're sorry. 1:02:02.240 --> 1:02:06.520 So talk about your own scaling process, Like when you started, 1:02:06.960 --> 1:02:09.440 you said there were losses, and now you feel like 1:02:09.440 --> 1:02:12.600 you're bore stabilized. Yeah, we're growing, We're still in the 1:02:12.640 --> 1:02:18.480 scaling process. Um, we are now in Macy's in headquarters 1:02:18.560 --> 1:02:22.160 New York, where in Atlanta where online so makes these 1:02:22.200 --> 1:02:26.080 dot com as well and that's been a really fruitful partnership. UM. 1:02:26.200 --> 1:02:30.240 The end was our end. Foot in the door had 1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:33.280 to do with all of the all the everything that 1:02:33.400 --> 1:02:38.200 was going on with UM, with our recent UM George 1:02:38.200 --> 1:02:40.480 Floyda activity, all of that, So that was part of 1:02:40.520 --> 1:02:44.680 their So that was part of the and I don't care. 1:02:44.960 --> 1:02:46.840 That was the open door. So we want we we 1:02:46.920 --> 1:02:49.040 busted the door down because we had already been in 1:02:49.080 --> 1:02:51.600 alanis like you didn't invent it, just to combat that, 1:02:51.720 --> 1:02:56.320 we exactly. And so so that's been going really well, 1:02:56.360 --> 1:02:58.880 and we've been meeting that. I mean, it's straight up 1:02:58.920 --> 1:03:01.240 like there were times where some of that that the 1:03:01.360 --> 1:03:04.040 packing for that was happening in our garage, So it's 1:03:04.080 --> 1:03:07.000 like from the garage to Macy's, you know what I mean, 1:03:07.120 --> 1:03:11.520 so crazy. And then UM Nordstrom picked us up for 1:03:11.640 --> 1:03:13.960 a few projects and we're still in talks with then 1:03:14.000 --> 1:03:18.440 on growing that relationship, target and other things. And and 1:03:18.480 --> 1:03:22.400 what's great is that we've been able to maintain UM 1:03:22.440 --> 1:03:26.800 the messaging, like we still saying what we are. There's 1:03:26.840 --> 1:03:30.160 been no watering down of any of it. And so 1:03:30.360 --> 1:03:32.680 I'm really grateful. And as a matter of fact, there 1:03:32.720 --> 1:03:36.520 were you know, we've we've they've been asking us for more, 1:03:37.040 --> 1:03:40.480 you know, and so I think, um, the scaling is 1:03:40.520 --> 1:03:42.919 going really good. And one thing is is that we've 1:03:42.960 --> 1:03:46.600 been scaling pretty slowly. Part of that is because of 1:03:46.680 --> 1:03:49.760 our you know, we're trying to be really intentional and 1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:53.680 careful about the growth because for us, it's like we 1:03:53.760 --> 1:03:56.600 grow slowly so that we can sustain it and it's 1:03:56.600 --> 1:03:58.400 not gonna be I don't want this thing to be 1:03:58.440 --> 1:04:01.640 an overnight success and then you never hear from us again. 1:04:02.080 --> 1:04:04.960 And so we want to maintain that slow and steady growth. 1:04:05.320 --> 1:04:07.800 And so that's been kind of our our our model, 1:04:07.840 --> 1:04:10.560 and we're just gonna keep on getting it out there, Um, 1:04:11.120 --> 1:04:13.360 you know, as as as much as we can. Yeah, 1:04:13.360 --> 1:04:14.800 I think I think the way you're scaled to is 1:04:14.840 --> 1:04:17.640 also based on your objectives. Man. We're really intentional about 1:04:17.760 --> 1:04:21.760 legacy because this is a this is a family business, 1:04:21.800 --> 1:04:24.240 and you know, we see things with our daughter, who 1:04:24.320 --> 1:04:27.160 is a fashion needs that she's an artist, just like 1:04:27.440 --> 1:04:30.800 she's drawing and designing things every day, and we're really 1:04:30.840 --> 1:04:33.360 trying to set her up now if she grows up 1:04:33.360 --> 1:04:35.480 and decides that's, hey, that's not what she wants to do, 1:04:35.680 --> 1:04:39.040 at least we know as parents, Um, she can stand 1:04:39.080 --> 1:04:42.360 on our shoulders if she chooses to take the thing farther. 1:04:42.480 --> 1:04:45.600 But because we're being really intentional about that legacy piece, Um, 1:04:45.600 --> 1:04:47.360 there's just a certain level of control that we're not 1:04:47.440 --> 1:04:49.600 willing to give up at this stage. So if it 1:04:49.680 --> 1:04:51.680 means we gotta go slower, we're okay with that. But 1:04:51.920 --> 1:04:54.919 doors are still opening in the process and the products. Yeah, 1:04:55.520 --> 1:04:58.160 I love it, man, you guys amazing. Man. I just 1:04:58.440 --> 1:05:01.600 I love the mind state, right because everybody wants to 1:05:01.680 --> 1:05:04.120 just get rich and get famous and and and when 1:05:04.120 --> 1:05:07.640 you create something out of love, like you said, the 1:05:08.040 --> 1:05:12.120 reward comes. You know, you rewarded because you're doing it 1:05:12.320 --> 1:05:14.640 out of passionate your heart. You know, when you do 1:05:14.720 --> 1:05:17.600 things for passion and purpose, then you will ultimately get rewards. 1:05:17.600 --> 1:05:20.320 So you know, I want to say I appreciate that 1:05:20.400 --> 1:05:22.680 element of it. Being an artist and being a creative, 1:05:22.880 --> 1:05:25.040 A lot of people don't understand that. Like I never 1:05:25.200 --> 1:05:28.320 was able to make art and think about what this 1:05:28.360 --> 1:05:30.240 is gonna make me money? Like you know, I never 1:05:30.280 --> 1:05:32.919 thought every time I made art is I wanted people 1:05:32.960 --> 1:05:36.120 to feel my art. I wanted people to understand where 1:05:36.160 --> 1:05:37.960 I came from. When I made it. That was that 1:05:38.040 --> 1:05:40.640 was the main thing. Everything else, you know, it's a 1:05:40.640 --> 1:05:43.680 blessing if it comes. But you want people to feel 1:05:43.680 --> 1:05:46.080 what it is that you wanted them to feel when 1:05:46.120 --> 1:05:48.960 you created something. So I look at that aspect. Tell 1:05:49.080 --> 1:05:52.880 us about cool church. Oh boy, oh man, that's fun. 1:05:54.160 --> 1:05:56.840 I pitched back off of this, but he's he's so, 1:05:57.360 --> 1:05:59.480 I told you I started. We started this as a 1:05:59.480 --> 1:06:04.320 Brandon agency, right, and then if it evolved into fashion, 1:06:04.400 --> 1:06:07.160 we still do branding work. We do that day to 1:06:07.240 --> 1:06:11.320 day as as in addition to the fashion. And then 1:06:11.360 --> 1:06:16.240 about four years ago, this guy comes and he's like, hey, uh, 1:06:16.320 --> 1:06:20.360 we're gonna start a church because he's been in ministry. 1:06:20.480 --> 1:06:22.360 I've been a pass for thirteen years at that point, 1:06:22.360 --> 1:06:25.200 so I was working under another ministry at that time. 1:06:25.280 --> 1:06:27.800 And then he's like and he's like, and we're gonna 1:06:27.800 --> 1:06:30.640 call the church cool Church. And I was like what. 1:06:31.800 --> 1:06:38.920 I was horrified. Horrified. Everything that I have learned, been taught, 1:06:39.040 --> 1:06:42.720 everything that I've worked on in my career said you 1:06:42.760 --> 1:06:45.680 do not do that. You don't mix. First of all, 1:06:45.720 --> 1:06:48.560 you don't mix anything to do with with faith in 1:06:48.680 --> 1:06:52.560 all of that, although it's all faith, right. And then Secondly, 1:06:52.600 --> 1:06:55.840 it's like this idea of brand cannibalization. So that's like 1:06:56.200 --> 1:06:59.800 a big term to say, you know when you uh, 1:06:59.880 --> 1:07:04.560 you could confuse the consumer if if everything is named 1:07:04.600 --> 1:07:07.280 the same. And so I was just like, no one's 1:07:07.320 --> 1:07:09.520 gonna know what we do because it's it's it's it's 1:07:09.520 --> 1:07:11.800 the fashion, it's brand, it's this, it's church. It's like 1:07:12.760 --> 1:07:14.960 and I had to have a real moment with God 1:07:16.200 --> 1:07:18.640 and I felt the Lord tell me clearly, he was like, 1:07:18.760 --> 1:07:20.800 give me the brand, and I'm gonna take it further 1:07:21.160 --> 1:07:25.200 than you could ever do on your own. Hm. And 1:07:25.280 --> 1:07:29.920 when he took over, that's when all these all these 1:07:29.960 --> 1:07:34.000 things that we're talking about in scaling and where this 1:07:34.560 --> 1:07:38.080 product it happened that the hands that it's landed on, 1:07:39.320 --> 1:07:42.280 the places that it's been, it's gone further than we 1:07:42.360 --> 1:07:44.840 ever could take it on our own. See, we put 1:07:44.880 --> 1:07:47.520 that put that faith on it. That was just like 1:07:48.160 --> 1:07:51.320 you know, insane growth. And once again it's about the 1:07:51.320 --> 1:07:53.240 purpose piece, right. So it's like you take what's in 1:07:53.280 --> 1:07:55.200 your hand, you connected with what's in your heart, you 1:07:55.200 --> 1:07:58.640 find purpose, right, So that that creative peace was always 1:07:58.640 --> 1:08:01.160 in our hand. But man, we always have passion to 1:08:01.320 --> 1:08:04.160 love on people. So yeah, the brand element of it 1:08:04.240 --> 1:08:05.920 was created out of love. And when we started the 1:08:06.000 --> 1:08:09.200 church and called it cool, we said, okay, you're created 1:08:09.320 --> 1:08:12.000 out of love because we wanted people to understand the 1:08:12.120 --> 1:08:15.080 value that they have, like at the end of the day, 1:08:15.120 --> 1:08:17.280 like so many people and this is the age that 1:08:17.320 --> 1:08:19.200 we're talking about it. Ten years ago, we weren't talking 1:08:19.200 --> 1:08:21.479 about depression and things the way that we're talking. Weren't 1:08:21.479 --> 1:08:24.000 talking about mental mental health and all those things. But 1:08:24.120 --> 1:08:30.200 now that's just that's a that's a constant conversation, uh peace. Right, 1:08:30.560 --> 1:08:32.840 So when we start to say created out of love, 1:08:33.240 --> 1:08:36.839 we were trying to really just pull out the beauty 1:08:37.280 --> 1:08:39.880 in people, letting people know, hey, man, you were created 1:08:39.920 --> 1:08:42.280 I love. I believe in a God that made you 1:08:42.760 --> 1:08:44.439 because he loves you. But I don't just think you're 1:08:44.479 --> 1:08:46.519 created out of love. I think you're created by love. 1:08:46.560 --> 1:08:49.120 I think that God is loved, like like I can't 1:08:49.120 --> 1:08:52.760 talk about the fact that that you know, my God 1:08:52.880 --> 1:08:54.280 is this, but at the end of the day, my 1:08:54.400 --> 1:08:56.160 my God is loved. So that means that I have 1:08:56.200 --> 1:08:58.960 to live a life of no matter what that looks like. 1:08:59.000 --> 1:09:01.120 I'm looking for love, I'm looking for justice, I'm looking 1:09:01.120 --> 1:09:03.519 at for peace, I'm looking for unity amongst people. But 1:09:03.640 --> 1:09:06.000 then it's not just created out of love and by love. 1:09:06.000 --> 1:09:07.599 We're created for love. What's the point of loving God? 1:09:07.600 --> 1:09:09.720 And we can't love each other, We can't love our 1:09:09.760 --> 1:09:12.719 fellow man. You know, if we're talking about it biblically, 1:09:12.800 --> 1:09:17.519 Jesus does love your neighbor as yourself. So I feel 1:09:17.640 --> 1:09:23.599 like we are obligated as as humans to find common 1:09:23.840 --> 1:09:29.200 ground man like like equality, unity, justice is such a must. 1:09:29.360 --> 1:09:32.680 And I believe that love is the strongest force on 1:09:32.720 --> 1:09:34.840 the planet. So I said, hey, if we're gonna build 1:09:34.840 --> 1:09:37.400 a church on something, we're gonna build the church on love. 1:09:37.479 --> 1:09:41.080 You can anybody can come. We we we ain't calling 1:09:41.120 --> 1:09:43.400 you an outcast because or where you are, what you 1:09:43.520 --> 1:09:45.519 identify with all that stuff. Let me tell you something. 1:09:45.520 --> 1:09:48.200 God made you. He loves you. So we wanted people 1:09:48.200 --> 1:09:49.800 to be able to come into that place. And it's 1:09:49.840 --> 1:09:51.760 not just say we love them. We want them to 1:09:51.920 --> 1:09:55.360 experience love. Um and we do that in the context 1:09:55.360 --> 1:09:59.200 of community that we call church. So and where is 1:09:59.200 --> 1:10:01.840 the church locate it? Yes, so we're in a mirror 1:10:01.920 --> 1:10:05.679 mar Florida. So that would be like twenty minutes west 1:10:05.760 --> 1:10:07.559 of like a for a lot of day. But yeah, 1:10:07.560 --> 1:10:11.920 we're more than that central suburban part uh South Florida. Um. 1:10:12.000 --> 1:10:13.960 But you know anywhere in South Florida, I feel like 1:10:13.960 --> 1:10:15.400 you can get there in twenty minutes. So people come 1:10:15.400 --> 1:10:17.920 from all over. We got people coming from north, south, east, 1:10:17.960 --> 1:10:20.280 and west, and they're converging on this little city to 1:10:20.479 --> 1:10:22.600 called Mirror Mare because I just found the spot we 1:10:22.760 --> 1:10:25.519 love is. So that's what we're gonna be. What you 1:10:25.560 --> 1:10:31.320 guys have members, Yeah, oh god, there's a lot so so. Um. 1:10:31.400 --> 1:10:35.080 We launched the twenty nineteen and launched day. First day, 1:10:35.360 --> 1:10:39.040 we had a thousand people show up to the church. Uh, listen, 1:10:39.080 --> 1:10:42.000 it's not it's not because we're that great of people. 1:10:42.040 --> 1:10:43.960 I just believe when God breathes on stuff, when he 1:10:44.000 --> 1:10:46.800 purposes you to do something, He's gonna send everything you 1:10:46.840 --> 1:10:49.439 need to make that happen. But once again, we have 1:10:49.520 --> 1:10:51.360 been boots on the ground in the community for the 1:10:51.439 --> 1:10:55.280 last thirteen years. So our track record of what we 1:10:55.280 --> 1:10:57.400 were about how we love people. When you just saying 1:10:57.479 --> 1:10:59.519 from the pulpit, we were doing it out in the 1:10:59.520 --> 1:11:02.160 streets and in the communities. Stars and people showed up. 1:11:02.360 --> 1:11:06.599 We were running good at twelve hundred people, and March happened. 1:11:07.720 --> 1:11:11.800 We jumped online. We pivoted properly. Um thousands of people 1:11:11.800 --> 1:11:14.880 watching online. But last year was our very first year 1:11:14.880 --> 1:11:19.000 of meeting consecutively physically for a year. On a Sunday, 1:11:19.000 --> 1:11:21.400 you show up, there's probably seven hundreds so people learning that. 1:11:21.439 --> 1:11:23.960 We still got a bunch of folks, hundreds folks watching online. 1:11:24.040 --> 1:11:29.799 So church is strong, man, It's it's powerful. But like, honestly, 1:11:30.040 --> 1:11:33.800 I have do y'all have good saying, that's what they 1:11:37.880 --> 1:11:42.799 because it's a Caribbean so you got that little element 1:11:42.880 --> 1:11:47.120 in there. So yeah, I'm treinitiation. We got all that 1:11:47.280 --> 1:11:51.120 mixed up in there. We got all around. When I 1:11:51.240 --> 1:11:53.680 go to church, I need to cry, like I have 1:11:53.800 --> 1:11:59.240 to be good. I'm gonna tell you. You might, you might, 1:11:59.439 --> 1:12:01.960 you might ride for that, but you're really gonna cry 1:12:02.040 --> 1:12:05.479 because the presence of the Holy spiriten is there. From 1:12:05.520 --> 1:12:09.200 the parking lot, you could feel the presence of God 1:12:09.320 --> 1:12:13.080 there and that is something that you know stays with 1:12:13.120 --> 1:12:19.240 you and it's unforgettable. Fact. Yeah, yeah, well you guys 1:12:19.240 --> 1:12:22.240 are unforgettable. Man. I love the work you're doing. Man, 1:12:22.320 --> 1:12:25.719 appreciate what I want to ask one thing, what what 1:12:25.720 --> 1:12:29.160 what do you want two in the next ten years, 1:12:29.200 --> 1:12:32.960 where do you see everything the whole? Cool brand? Like, 1:12:33.040 --> 1:12:39.720 what what is your vision for everything? He loves this thing. Yeah, 1:12:39.760 --> 1:12:41.559 I want to listen. Man, I don't. I don't just 1:12:41.600 --> 1:12:43.360 want a cool church. I want a cool brand. I 1:12:43.400 --> 1:12:45.240 want a cool world. Man. I want I want look 1:12:45.720 --> 1:12:48.200 like man. I want love to be the unifying force 1:12:48.280 --> 1:12:52.320 on the planet or whatever vehicle God allows us to use, 1:12:52.520 --> 1:12:55.880 whether it be clothing, whether it be a message, whether 1:12:55.960 --> 1:12:59.479 it be service out in the community. I just want 1:12:59.479 --> 1:13:01.280 people that the end of the day to see that 1:13:01.400 --> 1:13:05.679 love is the strongest force and all of existence. So yeah, well, 1:13:05.680 --> 1:13:07.720 of course we're gonna expand the church. Man. I want 1:13:07.720 --> 1:13:10.240 cool I want cool churches everywhere. But more than the church, 1:13:10.360 --> 1:13:13.320 I want I want communities of people that are showing 1:13:13.640 --> 1:13:16.320 the world how to love one another properly, how to 1:13:16.400 --> 1:13:20.360 love their neighbor as themselves. As far as the brain, yeah, man, 1:13:20.400 --> 1:13:23.240 we we we wanted to continue experience right now. You know, 1:13:23.400 --> 1:13:26.000 it's it's in Japan, it's in Dubai. But man, there's 1:13:26.040 --> 1:13:28.360 so many places in the world that we just want 1:13:28.360 --> 1:13:30.519 to clothe with love. We just want to make sure 1:13:30.680 --> 1:13:33.519 that message gets out. Man. We want to carry on 1:13:33.680 --> 1:13:35.800 what Dr King did at the at the end of 1:13:35.800 --> 1:13:39.000 the day, he pushed non violence. But the core of that, 1:13:39.040 --> 1:13:40.400 in the heart of that, in the center of that 1:13:40.479 --> 1:13:42.920 was love. We we see the power of love, and 1:13:43.040 --> 1:13:45.200 we wouldn't be sitting here today and even have the 1:13:45.240 --> 1:13:47.400 opportunity to do the things that we weren't doing if 1:13:47.439 --> 1:13:50.680 somebody didn't take a stand. So once again, love is 1:13:50.720 --> 1:13:53.040 always gonna be the foundation of everything that we do. 1:13:53.080 --> 1:13:55.160 But we don't want just a cool church or cool brand. 1:13:55.320 --> 1:13:56.560 We want to see a cool world. We want to 1:13:56.560 --> 1:13:58.280 see the world influenced by the love and the The 1:13:58.320 --> 1:14:00.360 biggest thing that we want to leave by high when 1:14:00.360 --> 1:14:02.639 it's all set and done, it's cool school. We want 1:14:02.720 --> 1:14:06.240 to teach the next generation high love too. Um. I 1:14:06.360 --> 1:14:09.080 remember coming up art school for a kid like me 1:14:09.560 --> 1:14:10.840 was something that you had to pay a lot of 1:14:10.880 --> 1:14:13.840 money for and you had to pray to God accepted 1:14:13.880 --> 1:14:17.160 into coming from Dade County, Carol CD that that wasn't 1:14:17.160 --> 1:14:19.519 the options that gave me. They said you gotta play ball, you, 1:14:19.560 --> 1:14:21.960 they say you gotta do this. I'm like, no, man, 1:14:22.000 --> 1:14:24.240 I'm a I'm an artist. So we want to create 1:14:24.680 --> 1:14:28.480 UM education k all the way to seeing your high 1:14:28.560 --> 1:14:33.600 That really um UM pushes and motivates the creative spirits 1:14:33.640 --> 1:14:36.599 of the next generation, especially in black and brown communities 1:14:36.600 --> 1:14:38.920 where those things are kept from us. Want to make 1:14:38.920 --> 1:14:42.880 sure that we're injecting art and love into the culture 1:14:42.920 --> 1:14:46.519 so that the next generation sees the opportunities that their 1:14:46.560 --> 1:14:49.840 creativity can afford them. So that's that's really the biggest goal. 1:14:50.240 --> 1:14:52.479 We want to spread love, but we want love to 1:14:52.479 --> 1:14:58.400 reach the next generation. A cool world, world world. Well, 1:14:58.720 --> 1:15:03.080 listen to the will. Since Joanne and Terence Terry, I 1:15:03.120 --> 1:15:05.160 think when you come back the next time, you're gonna 1:15:05.200 --> 1:15:14.599 be Terry. Put some respect on your name. Today, I'm 1:15:14.680 --> 1:15:18.320 just I'm proud. I feel so much, you know, pride, 1:15:18.479 --> 1:15:21.000 to just have the two of you sitting here, have 1:15:21.200 --> 1:15:24.240 this story and you know, to know that, as my 1:15:24.360 --> 1:15:27.000 son said, because one thing, Um, you know that that 1:15:27.360 --> 1:15:30.800 usually I say, you know, me and Mice get into 1:15:30.920 --> 1:15:34.040 it about everything. We debate every issue. But I will 1:15:34.040 --> 1:15:37.519 say the one thing he's very very honest about is 1:15:37.600 --> 1:15:41.400 that he does do everything with passion. Like he we're 1:15:41.439 --> 1:15:43.559 trying to tell him, like you know, well, you know, 1:15:43.720 --> 1:15:45.960 maybe you could take that song and turn it into 1:15:46.320 --> 1:15:48.599 you know, something where you can make money. And he's like, yeah, 1:15:48.760 --> 1:15:51.400 but the impact though, I really want people to feel it. 1:15:51.840 --> 1:15:54.800 You know. That's that's just truly you know who he is, 1:15:54.920 --> 1:15:58.920 and so we that's a it's or we wanted to 1:15:59.000 --> 1:16:02.639 be infectious, like we want everybody to have that same 1:16:02.800 --> 1:16:06.479 passion that if we could reach somebody, if we could 1:16:06.560 --> 1:16:10.719 touch the next generation, if everything that we do has 1:16:10.760 --> 1:16:14.400 the ability to move the needle in our culture, that's 1:16:14.439 --> 1:16:18.680 what's important because the money will follow. For sure. People 1:16:18.080 --> 1:16:20.960 see who you are and a believe in you, they're 1:16:20.960 --> 1:16:24.280 willing to invest. And so I am proud to have 1:16:25.160 --> 1:16:29.160 whol creative projects. I mean, excuse me, products, and I 1:16:29.240 --> 1:16:31.840 want more stuff. And I just want to thank you 1:16:31.880 --> 1:16:33.880 all for being you know who you are, and we 1:16:33.920 --> 1:16:37.000 know it's not easy. You know a lot of people 1:16:37.040 --> 1:16:39.800 gonna look at y'all. Y'all look good, y'all shining, you 1:16:39.920 --> 1:16:43.160 look good. You know, your your marriage is on display, 1:16:43.200 --> 1:16:45.519 the church is there. But we know it's tough moments, 1:16:45.600 --> 1:16:48.519 it's dark days, um, and you know we want that 1:16:48.560 --> 1:16:51.240 to come across to that we can just keep pushing 1:16:51.240 --> 1:16:53.080 through and and you know, look what you all are 1:16:53.120 --> 1:16:55.960 able to accomplish. So thank y'all so much for joining 1:16:56.040 --> 1:17:00.400 us today. Thank you, appreciate your stand keep doing what 1:17:00.479 --> 1:17:03.799 you do. We love you, We're proud of you. We're praying. 1:17:04.000 --> 1:17:07.400 Thank you' all. Thank you all for selfless and putting 1:17:07.400 --> 1:17:09.680 yourself out on the front lines and put change and 1:17:09.800 --> 1:17:15.439 really appreciate you. Thank you. Cool world, cool world. He 1:17:15.800 --> 1:17:24.040 appreciate you. Man. Shout out to Joanne and Terrence Wilson, 1:17:24.840 --> 1:17:29.600 the Cool Creative. They are awesome man. The energy is infectious. 1:17:29.640 --> 1:17:31.519 You can tell that they do it with a passion 1:17:31.560 --> 1:17:35.519 and a purpose. You know. All I knew prior to 1:17:35.600 --> 1:17:38.160 this was, you know, the Code always talks about them, 1:17:38.200 --> 1:17:39.960 and then we had the Jackets. I knew the quality 1:17:40.000 --> 1:17:42.080 of the Jackets. I've never been to the church, but 1:17:42.160 --> 1:17:44.880 she's always adamant calling me, telling me, but you've got 1:17:44.960 --> 1:17:47.519 to see my friends this and that. So just hearing them, 1:17:47.800 --> 1:17:51.920 you understand what it is like. You get everything that 1:17:52.000 --> 1:17:54.679 they're doing, and you see with the place of love 1:17:54.720 --> 1:17:57.200 that it comes from, you know, and I see big 1:17:57.240 --> 1:18:00.080 things for them. They're gone far. You know now that 1:18:00.240 --> 1:18:03.200 again they're in Macy's there in all these places. I'm 1:18:03.200 --> 1:18:05.920 not worried about them, but we do as a people 1:18:05.920 --> 1:18:11.599 because there was someone sitting right in our positions saying 1:18:11.640 --> 1:18:15.040 the same thing about Foo Boo right saying the same 1:18:15.080 --> 1:18:18.880 thing about Seawan John saying the same thing about Baby 1:18:18.920 --> 1:18:21.839 Fat that I'm not worried about them because the culture 1:18:21.880 --> 1:18:24.600 loves it. It's gonna grow, They're gonna be fine. But 1:18:24.680 --> 1:18:27.679 the problem is that at some point we allow these 1:18:27.720 --> 1:18:30.280 other brands that are not owned by our people to 1:18:30.439 --> 1:18:34.160 seek in and become the go to right they become. 1:18:34.400 --> 1:18:37.280 So it's like, and actually, there's a jacket that Louis 1:18:37.280 --> 1:18:41.120 Baton has that I absolutely love, and it's exactly one 1:18:41.160 --> 1:18:43.839 of those varsity style jackets that they had on today. 1:18:44.240 --> 1:18:48.080 I want that jacket. I have been, you know, putting pension, 1:18:48.120 --> 1:18:50.599 my little money to the side to figure out when 1:18:50.640 --> 1:18:52.840 I can get it. But I don't really need the 1:18:52.920 --> 1:18:55.639 Louis Baton jacket. If I could get the same type 1:18:55.640 --> 1:18:59.040 of quality and a look that's just as fly from 1:18:59.120 --> 1:19:02.519 cool creative. So I've decided I'm not gonna I'm not 1:19:02.600 --> 1:19:06.080 going to default, even though I'm not saying anything's wrong 1:19:06.160 --> 1:19:08.919 to believe the time, anybody who has that, that's good, whatever, 1:19:09.120 --> 1:19:12.080 it's fine. But we have to train ourselves to put 1:19:12.280 --> 1:19:17.559 our brands, our communities are our things, the things that 1:19:17.840 --> 1:19:21.479 represent us to plea the people that you know from 1:19:22.120 --> 1:19:27.080 a mom and pop perspective, they're hiring Jojo, like real 1:19:27.320 --> 1:19:29.880 jojo to press up stuff in the back, you know 1:19:29.920 --> 1:19:32.960 what I'm saying. Whereas you know it's take you gotta 1:19:33.000 --> 1:19:36.960 have a certain I won't say pedigree, but you do 1:19:37.080 --> 1:19:39.599 have to be a certain type of person to get 1:19:39.600 --> 1:19:43.760 the job in these big corporate companies, even as a 1:19:43.760 --> 1:19:47.320 salesperson on the floor. We just talked about the article 1:19:47.880 --> 1:19:51.360 um that I mentioned where they were talking about getting 1:19:51.479 --> 1:19:54.719 rid of the college requirement for some major corporate jobs, 1:19:55.240 --> 1:19:59.719 right because certain types of people they basically are blocking 1:19:59.760 --> 1:20:05.679 p out of the process. Right. And so you you 1:20:05.680 --> 1:20:09.200 you show up right now to Louis Baton to uh 1:20:09.240 --> 1:20:13.320 you know whoever finde Chanel. Whatever you apply for a job, 1:20:13.720 --> 1:20:20.080 they run super background check. You know that. Then again, 1:20:20.160 --> 1:20:22.679 they have all these requirements to try to make sure 1:20:22.720 --> 1:20:26.160 that they narrow down the pool. But when you go 1:20:26.280 --> 1:20:28.840 to try to work for somebody like cool, creative and 1:20:28.960 --> 1:20:33.320 all these brands that belong to us, those requirements are 1:20:33.439 --> 1:20:37.600 not as demanding. So I just you know, we have 1:20:37.720 --> 1:20:41.080 to invest in that we do we're doing. We gotta 1:20:41.120 --> 1:20:42.840 be very intentional. As I said, we have to be 1:20:42.920 --> 1:20:46.360 very intentional. We gotta promote invest we gotta we we 1:20:46.439 --> 1:20:50.160 have to retrain ourselves. Like even with the the whole 1:20:50.720 --> 1:20:53.040 Nike Boyd cards that I've been doing, it was it 1:20:53.120 --> 1:20:56.759 was intentional for me to retreat myself because I started 1:20:56.800 --> 1:21:01.080 looking at those sneakers, Like those sneakers kind of defined me, right, 1:21:01.120 --> 1:21:03.519 Like people know you've got ninekees and they see you 1:21:03.560 --> 1:21:05.479 and it's like some level of status. And I'm like, 1:21:05.840 --> 1:21:08.920 how do how do I allow this brand or any 1:21:09.080 --> 1:21:12.320 brand to give me status? Right? I actually give the 1:21:12.400 --> 1:21:15.280 brand that status. Right, So when we look at Louis Baton, all, 1:21:15.680 --> 1:21:20.040 they're nice, but I can't attach myself so so much 1:21:20.080 --> 1:21:23.960 to it that it means that it validates who I am. Right, 1:21:24.120 --> 1:21:27.040 I don't need I don't even need that type of energy. 1:21:27.040 --> 1:21:31.120 I don't even need the people who validate me based 1:21:31.160 --> 1:21:33.519 on those things, right, because you're you're drawing the wrong 1:21:33.640 --> 1:21:36.160 level of energy. Because if my clothes are the things 1:21:36.160 --> 1:21:39.040 that you're attracted to and not the individual, and then 1:21:39.120 --> 1:21:42.000 you turn into the clothes, then I know that superficial 1:21:42.080 --> 1:21:45.160 I know eventually, eventually, if God works come to worst 1:21:45.320 --> 1:21:47.679 and those things and these possessions and no longer things 1:21:47.680 --> 1:21:51.360 that I can have, then the relationship or the level, 1:21:51.439 --> 1:21:55.120 whatever it is, it's not gonna exist anyway. So when 1:21:55.160 --> 1:21:58.000 we when we start creating things and we start putting 1:21:58.000 --> 1:22:00.519 the value into the things that we create, and we 1:22:00.560 --> 1:22:04.240 started dictating the value based on us, when people start 1:22:04.280 --> 1:22:06.920 seeing it has to be good because you wear it, 1:22:07.200 --> 1:22:09.560 that that tells a lot about you as an individual. 1:22:09.880 --> 1:22:12.200 So I want us to be more intentional about making 1:22:12.240 --> 1:22:15.680 sure that us as the brand is strong, because if 1:22:15.760 --> 1:22:18.519 we the individuals at the brand is strong, that anything 1:22:18.600 --> 1:22:20.920 we put on it's gonna be fired because you know, 1:22:20.960 --> 1:22:23.519 it's in you, it's not on you. So that brings 1:22:23.560 --> 1:22:30.000 me to my I don't get it. It's it's off 1:22:30.040 --> 1:22:35.040 topic from you know, this situation. But in the news, 1:22:35.600 --> 1:22:38.120 there was a young twelve year old boy who was 1:22:38.400 --> 1:22:43.640 killed by police officer who performed the Pitt maneuver. You know, 1:22:43.720 --> 1:22:46.880 the same maneuver that the young boy in Florida that 1:22:46.960 --> 1:22:49.880 we were working with, Stanley Davis the third was killed 1:22:49.880 --> 1:22:52.840 by and other officers and and it's been banned, And 1:22:52.880 --> 1:22:56.000 I don't and and and and it's so crazy to me. 1:22:56.120 --> 1:22:59.400 Right when I'm looking at the interaction. Right, obviously, the 1:22:59.479 --> 1:23:01.840 police pull the guy over. They said he don't have 1:23:01.880 --> 1:23:04.160 a life, he doesn't want to. He's he's constantly saying, 1:23:04.320 --> 1:23:06.559 we're just supervisor. I'm not getting out the cars late 1:23:06.600 --> 1:23:08.840 at night. He has the boy in the back seat, 1:23:08.840 --> 1:23:11.880 and he's constantly just saying, we're the supervisor. I don't 1:23:11.920 --> 1:23:13.800 have to you know, like I'm not doing any of 1:23:13.840 --> 1:23:18.280 these things until the supervisor. No camera, there's no camera on. 1:23:18.760 --> 1:23:20.680 Like he he'd scared for his life. You don't know 1:23:20.720 --> 1:23:23.000 what you guys are gonna do to him. So at 1:23:23.040 --> 1:23:25.640 that point they become our rate. He rolls up his 1:23:25.640 --> 1:23:28.000 window because they're trying to do whatever. They break the window. 1:23:28.800 --> 1:23:31.400 Now I'm thinking to myself, woman the desert, I've seen 1:23:31.439 --> 1:23:34.840 these this situation before. He takes off. Now, whether it's 1:23:34.920 --> 1:23:37.400 right or wrong, that's somebody. Some people said, why you 1:23:37.400 --> 1:23:39.559 don't just get out white Because some people are don't 1:23:39.600 --> 1:23:42.400 trust the police. Some people don't believe that their lives 1:23:42.439 --> 1:23:45.120 are not gonna be taken. Some people don't believe if 1:23:45.160 --> 1:23:47.040 they get out their car that they're gonna make it 1:23:47.320 --> 1:23:50.040 back home. That's just a reality, and I think the 1:23:50.080 --> 1:23:54.519 police should understand that. Right. So neither here nor that 1:23:54.720 --> 1:24:00.080 the guy takes off and they chase him or he 1:24:00.120 --> 1:24:02.000 does this all he doesn't drop the car, he didn't 1:24:02.040 --> 1:24:09.400 hit anybody, speed checks, speech chase. What I don't get 1:24:10.080 --> 1:24:16.120 right is how do the police officers justifying in their 1:24:16.160 --> 1:24:22.760 minds knowing that these maneuver could possibly kill somebody, right, no, 1:24:23.479 --> 1:24:26.559 knowing that because the man is in the high speech 1:24:26.600 --> 1:24:30.040 chase and he's just driving, he hasn't done anything violence anybody, 1:24:30.200 --> 1:24:33.240 He's trying to get away. How do they make up 1:24:33.240 --> 1:24:36.360 in their mind that this situation calls for me to 1:24:36.439 --> 1:24:39.960 do something that there's a strong possibility that someone could 1:24:40.000 --> 1:24:43.400 lose their life if I hit a call on the roads. 1:24:43.800 --> 1:24:46.960 There's no guarantee that it's gonna stop. More than like 1:24:47.000 --> 1:24:49.960 he could flip over, someone could actually die. I don't 1:24:50.040 --> 1:24:53.639 understand the mind state that the police have when they 1:24:53.720 --> 1:24:56.280 chase it and they and they do maneuvers like this 1:24:56.439 --> 1:24:59.480 like well, I don't even know how it got implemented 1:24:59.600 --> 1:25:02.880 into something, and it shouldn't be implemented. Only time I 1:25:02.880 --> 1:25:05.560 would say that you implement something like that when the 1:25:05.640 --> 1:25:08.920 person is on the dangerous. If somebody has been deemed 1:25:08.960 --> 1:25:11.720 on the dangerous and they're running from the police officers 1:25:11.800 --> 1:25:14.840 and you feel like it's necessary in that situation, then 1:25:14.920 --> 1:25:18.560 it's more justifiable than just a routine traffic stuff with 1:25:18.760 --> 1:25:21.599 somebody decides that they're gonna drive off. I just don't 1:25:21.640 --> 1:25:25.200 get it. I really just don't. Well, here's the bigger thing, 1:25:25.600 --> 1:25:28.559 because I heard everything you said, and I agree. Um, 1:25:29.520 --> 1:25:32.280 But what I will say is, you know, I was 1:25:32.360 --> 1:25:34.880 listening to somewhere I don't know even know I was 1:25:34.920 --> 1:25:40.599 somewhere recently, and a pastor was given a sermon and 1:25:40.680 --> 1:25:47.960 talking about responsibility levels, like who has the burden of responsibility? 1:25:48.160 --> 1:25:51.439 It was Reverend sharp Than at the funeral for for 1:25:51.680 --> 1:25:56.639 Brianna Greer and she, you know, uh was in the car. 1:25:56.920 --> 1:26:00.760 She she had a mental health issue. She I picked up. 1:26:00.960 --> 1:26:05.679 She was in a car with two officers and somehow 1:26:05.800 --> 1:26:09.320 another the door was not closed and she fell out 1:26:09.320 --> 1:26:12.080 of the car and broke her neck or or hit 1:26:12.080 --> 1:26:16.240 her head a skull, her skull, and she died. Many 1:26:16.280 --> 1:26:20.320 more details to that. Still folks are in the process of, 1:26:20.720 --> 1:26:24.040 you know, fighting for justice for her family, her father. 1:26:24.560 --> 1:26:27.639 She she left behind two little girls three years old, 1:26:28.000 --> 1:26:31.479 and just recently her father passed away, um you know, 1:26:31.920 --> 1:26:34.160 and and and certainly from a broken heart because he 1:26:34.240 --> 1:26:37.280 was out there in the heat and everything fighting for 1:26:37.400 --> 1:26:41.040 his daughter. It's just too much. But what Reverend Sharpin 1:26:41.160 --> 1:26:46.920 was talking about was the issue of accountability and where 1:26:46.960 --> 1:26:50.160 the burden lies. And I see people even in my 1:26:50.240 --> 1:26:54.200 comments when I posted about this very this very issue, 1:26:54.640 --> 1:26:59.200 who are like, well, both people are wrong because the 1:26:59.280 --> 1:27:03.920 adult drove off knowing that the child could get harmed. Right, 1:27:04.280 --> 1:27:08.160 So they're saying that, And in theoretically that is true. 1:27:08.360 --> 1:27:10.800 We can't say once you take off, you don't know 1:27:10.880 --> 1:27:13.240 what's gonna happen. It might be a car dart out. 1:27:13.600 --> 1:27:17.120 Anything can happen, right, So we agree with that. But 1:27:17.240 --> 1:27:22.879 the problem is that the burden of responsibility lies within 1:27:23.320 --> 1:27:29.400 law enforcement, who are trained professionals with a weapon, who 1:27:29.479 --> 1:27:34.920 are supposed to know how to deescalate an issue. So 1:27:35.120 --> 1:27:39.760 when a man who is in his car a black man, 1:27:40.520 --> 1:27:43.759 or in a car a black man says to you, 1:27:44.000 --> 1:27:48.920 I would like to see a white shirt and I 1:27:49.120 --> 1:27:52.880 don't feel comfortable for X y Z reason. You don't 1:27:52.920 --> 1:27:56.559 have a camera on. I don't feel comfortable. I'm I 1:27:56.600 --> 1:28:00.720 don't feel comfortable, right, get the white shirt. I just 1:28:00.760 --> 1:28:04.520 want to say, what's so hard about doing it? Or 1:28:04.880 --> 1:28:10.639 or have someone come and approach who's like, sir, let's 1:28:10.640 --> 1:28:16.519 calm down, everybody calmed. In fact, let's back up, let's 1:28:16.520 --> 1:28:20.760 calm down. Keep your hands where I can see them, 1:28:20.840 --> 1:28:27.479 let's talk. Right. That is what the job requires because 1:28:27.600 --> 1:28:31.800 you have the training. You have the training, you have 1:28:31.920 --> 1:28:36.479 the gun, you have a paycheck. You are encountering people 1:28:36.600 --> 1:28:39.760 who had none of that. You're working. You actually work 1:28:39.840 --> 1:28:43.160 for the people that you encountering. That's the reality of 1:28:43.160 --> 1:28:47.280 the situation that you are servant servant for the people. 1:28:47.360 --> 1:28:50.679 You work for the people. So if if if your 1:28:50.760 --> 1:28:53.759 ego is so fragile because someone wants to see someone 1:28:53.960 --> 1:28:56.560 who's hired in you because they're they're scared, do you 1:28:56.880 --> 1:28:58.840 have to I don't think that you think how you 1:28:58.960 --> 1:29:03.639 realize how scared these people? Maybe like people, it's it's 1:29:03.680 --> 1:29:06.160 a real thing that people are losing their lives at 1:29:06.200 --> 1:29:10.479 traffic stops. So like, I don't understand why does the 1:29:10.560 --> 1:29:15.160 ego get so broken when somebody said, you know, I 1:29:15.240 --> 1:29:17.639 need to see the supervisor. Can you have a white shirt? 1:29:17.680 --> 1:29:21.120 Because I don't believe this procedures proper, and and and 1:29:21.160 --> 1:29:23.840 they get so been At that point, they want to 1:29:23.880 --> 1:29:26.240 prove to you that they have the authority that I'm 1:29:26.240 --> 1:29:28.280 in control. You don't get the act for a white 1:29:28.280 --> 1:29:30.960 shirt funk all that I'm gonna rest you. I'm breaking 1:29:30.960 --> 1:29:33.680 the win. I'm gonna do all the things necessary to 1:29:33.800 --> 1:29:36.160 show you that I'm in control of situation. And I 1:29:36.200 --> 1:29:39.839 think that's just horrible policing. I don't know what handbook 1:29:39.920 --> 1:29:42.000 they have, I don't know who's created, but I think 1:29:42.000 --> 1:29:44.639 it's the worst kind of policing that you can even 1:29:44.760 --> 1:29:48.840 think of. To constantly every put these type of officers 1:29:48.880 --> 1:29:51.400 and have whatever training that they have to go out 1:29:51.680 --> 1:29:55.439 and interact with the pedestrians and the citizens this way. 1:29:55.600 --> 1:29:58.200 It just does not make sense to me. I just 1:29:58.280 --> 1:30:00.639 don't get it. I'll never get it how these things 1:30:00.800 --> 1:30:03.559 end up with people dying, even if it's the worst thing, 1:30:03.680 --> 1:30:06.960 Like it's like me chasing myself. It's like, because if 1:30:06.960 --> 1:30:10.000 you actually care for somebody, you're not gonna kill him. 1:30:10.040 --> 1:30:14.400 I'm my son does something wrong and he runs, I'm 1:30:14.400 --> 1:30:16.280 not throwing no brick at the back of his head 1:30:16.320 --> 1:30:19.280 to stop him. I'm just not doing that right. My 1:30:19.400 --> 1:30:22.800 friend the kids, like, why don't they see it the 1:30:22.960 --> 1:30:25.400 value of the life, knowing that this right him doing 1:30:25.439 --> 1:30:28.840 could kill somebody who who's probably nothing more than scared. 1:30:29.439 --> 1:30:31.920 And if they're not scared and they have something they 1:30:31.920 --> 1:30:34.200 call their running for, we can eventually catch him. We 1:30:34.240 --> 1:30:37.240 got we got walkie talkies. We can cut them off 1:30:37.320 --> 1:30:39.639 at the road. He's gonna run out of gas eventually 1:30:39.680 --> 1:30:42.160 wherever we're gonna do. But I'm not trying to take 1:30:42.240 --> 1:30:46.479 his life. I'm not gonna do something. And I know 1:30:46.560 --> 1:30:49.519 it's a kid in a car because because I saw, 1:30:49.600 --> 1:30:53.720 I've seen, I literally see, because they have to see 1:30:53.720 --> 1:30:57.160 the cup. Because the reality situation is when you woke 1:30:57.280 --> 1:30:59.120 up on the car and they see another person, they 1:30:59.120 --> 1:31:00.600 flash that like they want to make sure that the 1:31:00.640 --> 1:31:03.200 other person not getting a weapon. They want to look 1:31:03.439 --> 1:31:06.400 they're paying attention all those things you did. You you're 1:31:06.400 --> 1:31:08.479 not gonna tell me that you just see somebody in 1:31:08.520 --> 1:31:10.760 the car and you didn't pay attention to them and 1:31:10.800 --> 1:31:13.759 you wasn't aware of And no, that's not that's not accurate, 1:31:14.320 --> 1:31:16.280 you know, so I'll just never get it. And I 1:31:16.360 --> 1:31:18.840 just and I hope these officers are held accountable. In 1:31:18.920 --> 1:31:22.680 my my, my um condolences and prayers goes out to 1:31:22.720 --> 1:31:24.800 the family of the young man who lost his life. 1:31:25.600 --> 1:31:28.840 But that said, we've come to the end of another episode. 1:31:29.360 --> 1:31:33.799 Another another episode or Street Politicians. Shout out to Joeann 1:31:33.880 --> 1:31:38.799 and Terence Wilson, the creators of Cool Creative. They are dope. 1:31:38.960 --> 1:31:41.439 Make sure that you go. They said their store is 1:31:41.520 --> 1:31:44.880 in Miami. They got the Cool Store in Miami, yep. 1:31:45.520 --> 1:31:47.960 And they have the church, the Cool Church in my 1:31:49.880 --> 1:31:54.080 merrim Merrimal. So make sure you you tap in with them, 1:31:54.120 --> 1:31:56.759 get you some gear, and then go get you some praise. 1:31:56.800 --> 1:31:58.599 At the same time, they said, they said the Holy 1:31:58.640 --> 1:32:00.920 Ghost is did the spirit, the Spirit of the Lord 1:32:01.000 --> 1:32:03.000 is at that church. So shout out to them for 1:32:03.040 --> 1:32:06.559 coming up here and brings us to the end of 1:32:06.600 --> 1:32:11.439 another episode. I'm not gonna always be right, Tamika D. 1:32:11.600 --> 1:32:14.000 Mallory is not gonna always be wrong, but we both 1:32:14.560 --> 1:32:20.439 always and I mean always, always, always be authentic. Listen 1:32:20.479 --> 1:32:23.519 to Street Politicians on the Black Effect Network on I 1:32:23.800 --> 1:32:26.720 Heart Radio and catch us every single Wednesday for the 1:32:26.840 --> 1:32:29.599 video version of Street Politicians when I Women Dot TV