Speaker 1: What's your family. It's your girl to make a d
Speaker 1: Mallory and it's your boy and my son the General,
Speaker 1: and we are your host of street politicians the place
Speaker 1: and politics. What's going on with my son, Lennon? You
Speaker 1: know me, I'm blessed, Holly favorite man. Just another day,
Speaker 1: you know, another day above land. The Lord gave me
Speaker 1: an opportunity to change it all around. Oh Lord, you
Speaker 1: look we got we have uh two pastors coming up,
Speaker 1: and you sound like you're already inspired. You're getting ready
Speaker 1: to count the conversation the Lord that the Lord. See
Speaker 1: how I got my black owned shout out to actively
Speaker 1: black the black fist in the air and my home
Speaker 1: girl tiff Lux with hermogul loading. So, you know, just
Speaker 1: trying to support all black, black owned, black owned this yep,
Speaker 1: I have my I Love being a Black woman hoodie
Speaker 1: on just of black lives Matt No Black women's lives matter, Uh, folks,
Speaker 1: I see a lot of people are picking up on it.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people are purchasing the brand
Speaker 1: shout out to assist the Jamility Davis. She started it
Speaker 1: with one sweatshirt T shirt that had the names of
Speaker 1: iconic black woman and I'm proud to be one of
Speaker 1: those named um you know on that shirt and she's
Speaker 1: now grown it into a global brand. Uh. And so
Speaker 1: this is the brown version. But I have this shirt
Speaker 1: and another green or the sweatshirt and a green that
Speaker 1: is totally popping. It's just dope, you know. It's just
Speaker 1: just black people doing good things. And I have a
Speaker 1: duffle bag from Actively Black that I love. Um, it's
Speaker 1: actually real high quality leather, like a real nice stuffle bag.
Speaker 1: I got a book bag that I love, but Actively
Speaker 1: Black quality. You know, shout out to Athlete Black. Keep
Speaker 1: doing it, man, They've got quality. Quality. We talked about quality,
Speaker 1: but they got that. Yeah, that's what's up. You gotta
Speaker 1: you know, if any brand needs to have quality, because
Speaker 1: I don't care who it is. I don't care if
Speaker 1: it's whoever the c D to the t P, all
Speaker 1: the way down to Barbary. I wanted to be quality,
Speaker 1: right like, I need every single thing that I've purchased
Speaker 1: to have quality. I don't want the scenes to be
Speaker 1: out of place. And by the way, a lot of
Speaker 1: these major brands, they stuff ain't got that. Mother, It's
Speaker 1: not worth like this at right. Yeah, the zippers aren't.
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about eight nine dollar products or shirts
Speaker 1: and whatever. This ain't right. That ain't right. The seams
Speaker 1: are off. It's all types of trash that they're selling
Speaker 1: out here. But I do know, unfortunately, the way we
Speaker 1: operate in society, unfortunately, is that we're hard around. So
Speaker 1: if you are somebody who's out there it's like trying
Speaker 1: to do your thing, just know that quality matters, definitely does.
Speaker 1: What is happening in the news, you know, you have
Speaker 1: you seen the O. B J situation? You know, I'm
Speaker 1: triggered around airlines and people, you know, being thrown off airlines,
Speaker 1: and I was on vacation. So basically what happened, you
Speaker 1: know Odell Beckham Jr. For those who don't know, O.
Speaker 1: B J is um a couple of weeks a while
Speaker 1: ago he had an incident that happened on the plane.
Speaker 1: So it was a while ago. This is yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the same situation. And now your body came from one
Speaker 1: of the officers who came on the plane has been
Speaker 1: released and it shows pretty much that Karen and Ken,
Speaker 1: you know, got this man kicked off a plane for
Speaker 1: pretty much is being tired. You know, the officer came on,
Speaker 1: they spoke to him. He seemed he was you know,
Speaker 1: he was alert. He told him what was going on,
Speaker 1: and they insisted some two of the stewardess insisted that
Speaker 1: he'd be taken off the plane. They didn't see why.
Speaker 1: They said, well, he's he's conscious. He seemed that he
Speaker 1: just looks tired, looked like he was tired. He was
Speaker 1: trying to say he was there. He didn't have his
Speaker 1: pants on this, the officers said. The officers like, he
Speaker 1: just looks something. He's like, he looks fine to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, like, what do you
Speaker 1: want me to do? Well, I can't do anything. If
Speaker 1: y'all want to remove then somebody has to say it,
Speaker 1: and they have to do has to it's a process
Speaker 1: that has to go. So they literally had to take
Speaker 1: everybody off the plane because he wasn't leaving, so they
Speaker 1: had to deplane. And this is all for Karen and Kenny.
Speaker 1: The man was sleeping, literally, oh it was. Their whole
Speaker 1: complaint was that he was sleeping and they couldn't wake
Speaker 1: him up to put his seatbelt on, whatever whatever. And
Speaker 1: they were so mad at the fact that he was
Speaker 1: sleeping that they called somebody to come over. They checked
Speaker 1: on him somehow, they woke him up and didn't look
Speaker 1: like they had a hard time waking him up. But
Speaker 1: they also said something I read somewhere because I didn't
Speaker 1: watch the video, but I read that they said his
Speaker 1: pants was hanging down or something pants on and they
Speaker 1: said he didn't have any pants on when we look
Speaker 1: at the the overse like when, yeah, he has his
Speaker 1: pants on now, so I don't know, oh, in the
Speaker 1: conversation and they said, well, and you could tell it
Speaker 1: was being very obnoxious because she called him a baby.
Speaker 1: She said, well, this the baby. The baby doesn't have
Speaker 1: any pants on, the baby, and he's like so he looked,
Speaker 1: he said he has his pants on there, and I
Speaker 1: don't like they really did. You could tell that these
Speaker 1: officials didn't really see will. The big deal was like
Speaker 1: you in first class, you're sleeping on the plane, you
Speaker 1: tie it like you know, Sometimes you don't, you don't
Speaker 1: respond too much. Sometimes you just tired, you know. And
Speaker 1: they said, well, we went him off the plane. We
Speaker 1: have five hours, and nobody wants to deal with what
Speaker 1: a man sleeping, if he was sleep, what do you
Speaker 1: have to deal with hour? What airline was this. I
Speaker 1: don't even know what airline it was. It really doesn't
Speaker 1: say what airline it was, but whatever airline it was,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a good look for them. It was not
Speaker 1: a good look, you know. So but I was say him,
Speaker 1: I'd sue the pants or the pants. And then it
Speaker 1: was other passengers that were angry at him because they
Speaker 1: had to get off with him. Yeah. Then one of them.
Speaker 1: He started arguing with them, like you think I'm getting
Speaker 1: off the plane for you, like you think you think
Speaker 1: I'm definitely I probably get off for anybody else, but
Speaker 1: you I'm definitely not, you know. And it was frustration, man, like,
Speaker 1: come on, you're trying to get home and wherever you're
Speaker 1: coming from, and you're on the plane and you gotta
Speaker 1: go through all this because somebody's feelings was hurt or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, It's just it's power tripping. It is, man,
Speaker 1: it's customer service and power trip and that this you know,
Speaker 1: this is a lot going on. Man, It's just I
Speaker 1: don't get it goes to the same thing, but it's
Speaker 1: just so much, so much power tripping, and they have
Speaker 1: it was American allies. Lord, he looked okay, very interesting,
Speaker 1: very interesting, but um shout out to Odell Beckham Man,
Speaker 1: get your lawyer, get you good old. I know you
Speaker 1: don't need the money, but get it anyway. Not the
Speaker 1: fifty cent. Fifty apologized to Meg patrolling her. You know,
Speaker 1: he did a um he did an interview with Big Boy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: big boys my god man. Like every time I see
Speaker 1: he always shows me mad. Last time seemed he hugged me,
Speaker 1: said I love everything that you do. Boom boom. I
Speaker 1: love Big Boy man he and I love the way
Speaker 1: he does interviews, and I just love where he carries himself.
Speaker 1: He's always been dope individual. But on fifty was up
Speaker 1: there and he was talking about um, how he was
Speaker 1: trolling mag. He was one of the people, you know what,
Speaker 1: saying she was lying or whatever, and he said he
Speaker 1: wanted to apologize, you know, based on what he was
Speaker 1: hearing online, like most of the people was getting, you know,
Speaker 1: the fake news. That what he said. Nope, nope, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's what he said. He said, Okay, no, that is
Speaker 1: not what he said. He said he saw the interview
Speaker 1: with Gail King right when he heard her he said
Speaker 1: other things. No, he said, he said, when I watched
Speaker 1: the interview with her, and Gail King, and she lied
Speaker 1: about the sexual relationship. After that, everything that happened, it
Speaker 1: just I just started to believe she was lying, So
Speaker 1: any other thing that happened, I just thought she was lying.
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying because and by the way, I
Speaker 1: don't think denying a sexual partner rises to the level
Speaker 1: that these people are jumping up and down about. So
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say I just know that they
Speaker 1: would love to be able to say that we're providing
Speaker 1: either bits and pieces or you know, not telling the
Speaker 1: full story of what happened in order to you know,
Speaker 1: only uh, support one aspect. So I just want to
Speaker 1: make sure nobody's gonna say that we didn't tell the
Speaker 1: story exactly like you said. Yep, he said. He so
Speaker 1: the Gail King interview, and when he heard her say
Speaker 1: that she didn't she didn't have a sexual relationship with Tory,
Speaker 1: he said she was lying. But then after hearing the
Speaker 1: the jail conversation with Kelsey and Tory, at that point,
Speaker 1: you know, he came to the conclusion that you know,
Speaker 1: he had and I just as a man, you know,
Speaker 1: and and for me, it's like it's a lot of
Speaker 1: other artists that I think, oh that woman apology, Who've
Speaker 1: been silent? You know, who've been silent? Who do under
Speaker 1: the bus? Who says ship? Who who added to the
Speaker 1: pilon on social So it's like I think, just understanding.
Speaker 1: Just as a man, you know, you realize you're wrong,
Speaker 1: you realize you made a mistake. You know, and your
Speaker 1: mistakes and your wrong doings harmed another individual. Just say sorry,
Speaker 1: you know, so shout out to fifty for that. After
Speaker 1: you listen to you can make up whatever you want.
Speaker 1: Anybody who wants to make up a store about how nah,
Speaker 1: he could have been saying this, and he could have
Speaker 1: been saying that, and all of the stuff that they're saying.
Speaker 1: You know, cool, do what you want. Anybody with good
Speaker 1: sense that's trying to any okay, excuse me, common sense,
Speaker 1: not even I don't even know if it's I don't
Speaker 1: know what you I don't even know whatever you need.
Speaker 1: When you listen to that tape, you know what the
Speaker 1: hell that man is talking about. And that Fury knew
Speaker 1: what was going on too, and they were not fooled
Speaker 1: by the chatter of the sidelines, and they're doing his
Speaker 1: Tory Lanes legal team is doing exactly what they're supposed
Speaker 1: to do. They're supposed to file for a new trial.
Speaker 1: He has money, he's they're supposed to try to get
Speaker 1: a new trial. They're supposed to appeal. Right, this is process, right,
Speaker 1: that's the you're gonna pell, you file, you put in
Speaker 1: emotion to to get a new trial or citicide diverdict.
Speaker 1: The judge looks at it and says pretty none of it.
Speaker 1: Ten times they say no, we're not gonna do that.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe they will, maybe they won't. Here's what
Speaker 1: I will say. It's not this part that is to me.
Speaker 1: I think all these things that he's doing, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do. The problem is that it
Speaker 1: should have never got to this point period. It should
Speaker 1: have been handled from the beginning. And I believe that
Speaker 1: all parties involved, and we know because Meg tried to
Speaker 1: say that it was glass enough foot right, So all
Speaker 1: parties involved really did not want this situation to blow
Speaker 1: up in the way that they did. But ego ego
Speaker 1: is very dangerous, especially when your ego is being inflated
Speaker 1: by the idea that nobody really cares about a black woman.
Speaker 1: They don't she she was sleeping with this one. This happened,
Speaker 1: that happened. The more to that information comes out, she's
Speaker 1: discredited and more than likely the world will ignore her
Speaker 1: and or and by the way, people who women at
Speaker 1: all women, but specifically Black women, who claim abuse great
Speaker 1: different things, you know, violence against them, they are It's
Speaker 1: very similar to how the criminal justice system says you're
Speaker 1: guilty until proven innocent, no matter how many times they
Speaker 1: tell us that's not. But that's the same thing that
Speaker 1: happens to women, and again specifically Black women, when they
Speaker 1: report any type of abut they are liars. Everything about
Speaker 1: their life is dragged out in the world for the
Speaker 1: world to see, and they are destroyed until you have
Speaker 1: something that is solid enough that people may believe you
Speaker 1: know that they can believe that this actually happened to you.
Speaker 1: And in that situation, I think I hear what Phthy
Speaker 1: is saying. This man fifty cent is from the street.
Speaker 1: This man tape he said as he said, this is yeah,
Speaker 1: this is because we we for That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like any it's no, it's no individual that from the
Speaker 1: street that heard that conversation. It was like yo, he
Speaker 1: was apologizing for telling them that they had it. It
Speaker 1: didn't make sense, and none of it made sense. That
Speaker 1: whole theory that just never made sense to me. It's like,
Speaker 1: why would if I'm missing with Kelsey first and I
Speaker 1: end up sleeping with Meg and then I tell Kelsey,
Speaker 1: yeah I was, you tell your friend did this and
Speaker 1: that to you and they fight over me and all
Speaker 1: this ship happens. Why would I be calling Kelsey to
Speaker 1: tell her to apologize to Meg about me telling him
Speaker 1: about sleeping on Why would Kelly? It doesn't make no
Speaker 1: sense to me. Why would you be calling a girl
Speaker 1: that you cheated on to tell her to tell a
Speaker 1: friend that you cheat on her? What that you sorry
Speaker 1: for telling that you cheated on it? The only thing
Speaker 1: about it is this when you keep saying that, and
Speaker 1: you've given that example several times, and I just don't
Speaker 1: that's the But what I want you to know is
Speaker 1: that the example you're providing it is it's a fact, right,
Speaker 1: like or at least I feel when I say it's
Speaker 1: a fact. The fact that it doesn't make sense, like
Speaker 1: we don't think it makes sense, but I don't. I
Speaker 1: think that that's still leaves too much room for people
Speaker 1: to try to consider because the reality is that you
Speaker 1: don't never know what people will do. You don't even know. Really,
Speaker 1: people are like, well, why would Kelsey do and say
Speaker 1: because people they fucked up? Sometimes ship in relationships don't
Speaker 1: go right, people make bad decisions, people can't be trusted,
Speaker 1: people are fucked up individuals, and you find out in
Speaker 1: the midst of a crisis who you're dealing with, who
Speaker 1: your true friends are, who they're not like, that's that's
Speaker 1: just the reality of life. All of us will have
Speaker 1: some point where we will have to deal with it,
Speaker 1: and some of us are actually responsible for perpetuating to
Speaker 1: behave there at some point teenage, now today, yesterday. That's like,
Speaker 1: so I can't tell you why they were having or
Speaker 1: who called to tell this that. In the third what
Speaker 1: I do know is that in the call the man said,
Speaker 1: I would never do no ship like that. That is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I would never do it. Like I can't believe I
Speaker 1: was so drunk I did some ship like that that
Speaker 1: right there when they when he said that the jury
Speaker 1: people that hurt, they said, what time do we vote?
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that if you're sitting in the jury room,
Speaker 1: and first of all, the person that could potentially be
Speaker 1: responsible or somehow play a role in this. Don't know
Speaker 1: who paid for their lawyer after having to admit that
Speaker 1: you did offer money at some point, and now the
Speaker 1: person is calling you. The person who was a tipp
Speaker 1: thing to pay for your whatever, give you money, is
Speaker 1: now calling you told about I would never do no
Speaker 1: ship like that. These people are not stupid. You can
Speaker 1: play stupid, but they're not stupid, not at all, not
Speaker 1: by not by a long shot. A teacher in the
Speaker 1: New York school totally young boy, they couldn't go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom, made him pee in a garbage can. After
Speaker 1: he peed in a garbage can, he p some of
Speaker 1: the the urine got on his clothes. They dressed the
Speaker 1: young boy and put in garbage bags, put garbage bags
Speaker 1: on and had him sitting inside of the classroom garbage bags.
Speaker 1: But today it is the most crazy ship. I'm going
Speaker 1: to jail. I'm going to jail. Listen to me, and
Speaker 1: the ain't even listen to me. It's not there's no question,
Speaker 1: there is no what you said. It's dehumanizing. The trauma
Speaker 1: that that young boy is gonna suffer just off that
Speaker 1: one situation. It's gonna have ramifications and crazy down the
Speaker 1: road effects and on his life. He has to picture
Speaker 1: that he's embarrassed. He's watching his team, his schoolmates, he's
Speaker 1: seeing the authority, his belief in authorities. It's all these
Speaker 1: things gonna happen, you know, and it's like, wow, I
Speaker 1: don't and I don't know what happened to the teacher.
Speaker 1: I didn't get the full notice what what you know,
Speaker 1: the school did to the teacher, but it was it's
Speaker 1: it's the most dehumanizers should ever that I've probably ever seen, man.
Speaker 1: And I was. I was really taken back because having
Speaker 1: having a nine year old and an eleven year old son,
Speaker 1: you know, we're almost nine, who will be nine in
Speaker 1: the next few days, Having an almost nine year old
Speaker 1: son in the eleven year old son, I can't imagine
Speaker 1: somebody calling me to their school. It's it's disgusting, it's terrible.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I do share an other perspective
Speaker 1: on it, though, and that perspective is that we do
Speaker 1: need to invest more in our teachers, whether it be
Speaker 1: getting rid of some of them that are crazy as
Speaker 1: hell and um and and racist and despicable and all
Speaker 1: that stuff, you know, all the bad words, or whether
Speaker 1: it's giving them resources that they need to deal with
Speaker 1: issues because a lot of teachers are freaking overwhelmed. They're overwhelmed,
Speaker 1: and then when you get overwhelmed to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: eventually you could and probably will make like your mental
Speaker 1: health because you for you to tell a child to
Speaker 1: be in the garbage thing, your mental health is something
Speaker 1: wrong with you. You got a problem. So either you
Speaker 1: always had a problem and nobody saw it and it
Speaker 1: wasn't identified rather and then addressed, or you have become
Speaker 1: your your mental health issues have become more severe over
Speaker 1: time because you're overwhelmed. Either way, this should be one
Speaker 1: what happened to him, the teachers should be held responsible,
Speaker 1: the school should be held responsible, the district, everybody. Beyond that,
Speaker 1: there needs to be some assessment of what's happening in
Speaker 1: our schools and whether or not our kids are getting
Speaker 1: the or our kids and our teachers are safe and
Speaker 1: mentally stable. So I think that's the double edge too.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that what happened is right. It just
Speaker 1: means that what's wrong with it is not just what
Speaker 1: the person did, it's the conditions that allow for that
Speaker 1: type of serap scenario to even happen. So anyway, but
Speaker 1: I tell you one thing that I read, and I
Speaker 1: didn't really get too far into the story. I chuckled.
Speaker 1: I found it funny that corporations are starting to reduce
Speaker 1: requirements around college education for them to hire individuals. And
Speaker 1: I was thinking, I mean, a dub, how many people
Speaker 1: do you know they do not have a bit of
Speaker 1: college education. But they can do marketing jobs, they can
Speaker 1: do jobs with technology, they can do all types of jobs.
Speaker 1: I mean so many different jobs right where they can
Speaker 1: actually um where where they can excel and they could
Speaker 1: actually help a company grow. Right, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people out here who did not go to college who
Speaker 1: were able to um build businesses and brands and and
Speaker 1: and really to educate them. So they didn't have opportunity
Speaker 1: to go to college either. They couldn't afford it, maybe
Speaker 1: just wasn't the right time. Maybe you know, it just
Speaker 1: they didn't come from a family where that was the
Speaker 1: normal trajectory. So it's a lot of people here that
Speaker 1: did not in our society that didn't go to college.
Speaker 1: And then there are people who went to college who
Speaker 1: got all kinds of problems, right, mental health we just
Speaker 1: talked about, they got mental I know people who went
Speaker 1: to college, they got all the degrees, and in fact
Speaker 1: they have issues that they're dealing with from their experiences
Speaker 1: in college, from not being in regular society, having like
Speaker 1: to fight and hustle to make it to where they
Speaker 1: where they are. Um, you know that those and those
Speaker 1: people are not as brilliant, if you will, as some
Speaker 1: would think just because they have a college degree. And
Speaker 1: then of course we know people with the opposite. They
Speaker 1: went to college, they did all the things, and guess what,
Speaker 1: they are well equipped for the job and to help build.
Speaker 1: So you don't you you can't make one cookie cutter
Speaker 1: strategy and then try to fit everybody into it. You
Speaker 1: have to be flexible so that you can find talent
Speaker 1: and so that you can provide opportunities because you don't
Speaker 1: know people's stories. Somebody could be sitting right here, right now,
Speaker 1: looking at an application for a job that they know
Speaker 1: they can do, and they're in a situation they need
Speaker 1: a job. They're ready to stay out the street, they're
Speaker 1: ready to you know, make the right decisions. They don't
Speaker 1: want to go to jail. They don't want to harm anybody,
Speaker 1: they don't want to do anything wrong right and they
Speaker 1: want they know they can do this job, but because
Speaker 1: they either have a felony or because they don't, they
Speaker 1: might not have a good reference from the last job
Speaker 1: where God only knows who was working there that started
Speaker 1: some bullshit with them, or they're just a person that is,
Speaker 1: they just a hater. Right, so now you can't even
Speaker 1: necessarily get a reference from a previous thing. And or
Speaker 1: in this case, you don't have four years college, two
Speaker 1: years college, and so therefore it can't suse you out.
Speaker 1: And I think from a corporation's perspective, it's something that
Speaker 1: they definitely should be doing, you know, looking at creating
Speaker 1: other ways to find talent and to retain talent. Right,
Speaker 1: But when we start talking about government opportunities like being
Speaker 1: a police officer, that's a different story. And the reason
Speaker 1: why I say that is because the purpose of putting
Speaker 1: a certain amount of college um, you know, credits and
Speaker 1: a certain like associate's degree to be a correction officer,
Speaker 1: and those types of um requirements, they are there to
Speaker 1: reduce the pool to people who have had some type
Speaker 1: of life experience where they've learned cultural things other than
Speaker 1: whatever they know from their community. So if you just
Speaker 1: if you grew up in a trailer park, which black
Speaker 1: people and white people grew up in trailer parks and
Speaker 1: there's certain type of culture in that area. You go
Speaker 1: out to become a police east officer. That is actually
Speaker 1: can be very dangerous because the way you see life
Speaker 1: is through one lens. But after you've go on to college,
Speaker 1: you around other people, you're listening to your professor, you're
Speaker 1: reading material, you are understanding things about the culture. It
Speaker 1: is supposed to broaden your understanding and broaden your horizons,
Speaker 1: which makes you more suitable to go into the world
Speaker 1: knowing that there are different types of people other than
Speaker 1: the folks in my trailer parker, in my projects, or
Speaker 1: in my community. So that's a different thing. It's a
Speaker 1: different thing, you know, for public sake. Lived experience is
Speaker 1: a thing for me. It is you know, you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't like you can have somebody who's when is
Speaker 1: a mechanic. His father probably told him how to work
Speaker 1: on causes he was three years old, never been to school.
Speaker 1: You don't have any of these things. And you say, well,
Speaker 1: you don't have this. You didn't go to school for this,
Speaker 1: and this might be one of the best mechanics in
Speaker 1: the world. You understand because he's been around. You have
Speaker 1: to live the experience some people have. Some people have
Speaker 1: family members and and um mentors who have taught them
Speaker 1: do this, and they went to college, you know, they
Speaker 1: have those type of teachers and those type of mentors
Speaker 1: who taught them. So, you know, I think this is
Speaker 1: this is this is a move in the right direction
Speaker 1: for corporations. You'll see more adverse I mean, you see
Speaker 1: more verse verse adversity within side of exactly. You'll see
Speaker 1: more diversity inside corporations. Now you'll see people with lived
Speaker 1: experience bay also coupled with those who have been to college.
Speaker 1: So then you get the both, you get the best
Speaker 1: of both worlds. You know. I always wanted my kids
Speaker 1: to be well rounded. You know, I didn't want them
Speaker 1: to just go to private school and this, and I
Speaker 1: always wanted them to have the public school experience and
Speaker 1: then after a while maybe mature and you go to
Speaker 1: more of these um educational situ situations where it's more
Speaker 1: um individualized, and it's more you know all them prestigious, Yeah, prestigious,
Speaker 1: more those things. I always wanted to have the world
Speaker 1: so they'd be able to live on both worlds. I
Speaker 1: think that's what I think that's what society calls forward.
Speaker 1: It's more it's more hybrid individuals. You know, it's no
Speaker 1: one or two things, it's more hybrid individuals. So shout
Speaker 1: out to the corporations for making that change. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and you know when you you brought up such a
Speaker 1: good example when you talked about the mechanic, because that
Speaker 1: same mechanic, who might be able to get a job
Speaker 1: at the you know, the local UH shop or whatever,
Speaker 1: the local car shop it because of the lack of
Speaker 1: college education and or the felony and or the situation
Speaker 1: that might have happened at another job, that person can't
Speaker 1: go work at Mercedes Benz. They can't necessarily get on
Speaker 1: the line at Toyota or you know, unless those companies
Speaker 1: have a program where they're specifically looking for individuals who
Speaker 1: have backgrounds like that so that they can you know,
Speaker 1: work with them to try to transform their their lives
Speaker 1: and and and help to establish their futures. But if
Speaker 1: you don't have that, right, if you don't have those
Speaker 1: types of intentional program and you leave people out here
Speaker 1: in the world. And this is not a black and
Speaker 1: white issue. This is not a black and white issue
Speaker 1: because you have Asians, whites and all types of people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a classism issue. At this fact, it's a classism
Speaker 1: issue um and and that it's problematic. So hopefully this
Speaker 1: newfound approach, which I'm sure has something to do with
Speaker 1: inflation and after and and and now we're dealing with
Speaker 1: people returning um to work or not from the pandemic.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that they're anytime corporations do something,
Speaker 1: it's not it's they know that they're gonna benefit. Let's
Speaker 1: just say that. So let me go to Matha to
Speaker 1: the day. You know, at some things I just don't understand.
Speaker 1: You know, Puff is our brother and we know him
Speaker 1: and love him. And I heard him on the Breakfast
Speaker 1: Club saying that at one point in his life he
Speaker 1: lied to women all the time and it caused him
Speaker 1: a lot of confusion, right, and so he decided at
Speaker 1: this age he just ain't lying. No, he's just going
Speaker 1: to be straightforward about what it is that he's doing
Speaker 1: and where he is in his life. And people can
Speaker 1: need to take it or leave it. Right, So we're
Speaker 1: understanding that and knowing in his situation, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt that he's you know, on paper he's
Speaker 1: a billionaire, which means he's got access to immense uh capital,
Speaker 1: and clearly he lives a big life. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that all helps, but I'm trying to figure
Speaker 1: out why people are so mad about his relationship with
Speaker 1: your Miami. I just don't. People fear and they hate
Speaker 1: what they don't understand. And it's like, you know, as
Speaker 1: a man, I identified with the mentality of fasts. Like
Speaker 1: we've been taught from young to to lie. Our grandfather said, look,
Speaker 1: lie till you go to just lie, just lie you
Speaker 1: do it ain't what a man do is how you
Speaker 1: do it. You're supposed to do this and do this,
Speaker 1: and sneak and do all this ship and it ain't gotten.
Speaker 1: It ain't got the black man nowhere, especially in our community.
Speaker 1: It's it's cause more confusion, is cause more harm. Everybody's lying,
Speaker 1: but she and everybody's confusing everybody. So puffs position right,
Speaker 1: which I'm here, I'm hearing a lot a lot of more,
Speaker 1: a lot more men have the position to just being honest. Right.
Speaker 1: So when you look at that and then you see
Speaker 1: young Miami, she's she's clearly states I'm not looking to
Speaker 1: be serious for them. But I'm working on my brand
Speaker 1: and I'm having a good time. I'm not to marry
Speaker 1: a type, she said, I'm not. I'm not. That's not me.
Speaker 1: She's clear about who she is and she found the
Speaker 1: man that fits who she is, and they seem to
Speaker 1: enjoy each other. The only confusion I see with them
Speaker 1: is the public. The public cause is more confusion between
Speaker 1: them because I don't I've yet to see them have
Speaker 1: issue and the issues they have one for sure because
Speaker 1: when he sent the flowers, uh, you know he was
Speaker 1: he was saying sorry for something, right, And let me say,
Speaker 1: let me say this because I don't want to seeing disingenuous.
Speaker 1: No woman, it's just all the way comfortable with what
Speaker 1: is going on in this. You can't see that, because
Speaker 1: then I don't. I just don't agree with that, because
Speaker 1: let me finish same, what I'm saying. That is not norm.
Speaker 1: That is not That is not a norm. Most women
Speaker 1: would hope that a man loves you so much that
Speaker 1: he can't even see past you to anybody else, Right,
Speaker 1: that's what That's what most people want. But when you know,
Speaker 1: but but and I when I say most, I mean
Speaker 1: nine point nine friends who yeah, but there's a reason
Speaker 1: for that. The reason generally, if you really start pulling
Speaker 1: back the layers, is because whatever damage has been done
Speaker 1: to them in the past, whether they put themselves in
Speaker 1: the position or not. I'm not trying to say the
Speaker 1: man was wrong all the way or whatever, But after
Speaker 1: they've experienced a certain level of trauma, they start to
Speaker 1: find new coping mechanisms and new ways of approaching life. Right,
Speaker 1: It's not like they didn't just start out being that
Speaker 1: way for the most part. I know there's probably a
Speaker 1: one percent that does, but it's not the norm. But
Speaker 1: what happens is that when you think about young Miami,
Speaker 1: she says herself, I literally come from the dubab right, like,
Speaker 1: I come from a situation pretty much that is not favorable.
Speaker 1: As she is attempting to grow in her brand to
Speaker 1: your point, in her life, the things that she's doing,
Speaker 1: she realizes that there's different there's different routes you can take.
Speaker 1: You can this is my assessment. I'm not saying I
Speaker 1: didn't speak to about it. I don't know. Puffin never
Speaker 1: said nothing to me about it, So this is just
Speaker 1: me gossiping, right mhm. She realizes that I can she
Speaker 1: already been with a man and had a baby with
Speaker 1: a man, and you see from some of the ship
Speaker 1: that has happened publicly where that left her right and
Speaker 1: what that situation looked like. So now, as a young
Speaker 1: woman who is aspiring to where it is that she's
Speaker 1: going in her life, she has a certain type of
Speaker 1: style and brand already. So it's not like this girl
Speaker 1: is coming out here as the nun. She is not that. Right,
Speaker 1: Like we see what the city girl thing is in
Speaker 1: the vibe and the whole thing. We see that we
Speaker 1: understand it. She knows that puff has the ability to
Speaker 1: help her to grow in her career and to advance herself.
Speaker 1: And in the midst of all of that, he likes
Speaker 1: her like he really likes her. He likes her, he's
Speaker 1: invested in her, he cares for her. She she's getting
Speaker 1: to enjoy herself and and go places and see things
Speaker 1: that she would never have an opportunity to do, probably
Speaker 1: at this time if she wasn't in the situation that
Speaker 1: she's in. She's making a conscious, intentional choice to say
Speaker 1: I could do this for a minute. When I can't
Speaker 1: no more, I can stop. But right now it's quote
Speaker 1: I'm good I feel I'm good, I'm chilling right. The
Speaker 1: problem is that you might not like that. That's the
Speaker 1: this is the part that I don't. I don't. This
Speaker 1: is this is where I need to having. I'll be struggling.
Speaker 1: You may not like it, which means that that is
Speaker 1: not a decision that you will make. But for you
Speaker 1: to sit there and try to act like this girl
Speaker 1: is crying out to help and people need to do
Speaker 1: something to try to save or you're you're you're bugging,
Speaker 1: You're completely bugging. And that's my that's my whole thing,
Speaker 1: completely bugging, because I don't see where she needs saving.
Speaker 1: You know. It looks like she's enjoying her life, you know.
Speaker 1: And if the media and social media will then focus
Speaker 1: on everything that goes wrong in a situation I don't,
Speaker 1: they probably would never have go not wrong, I mean
Speaker 1: that goes on in this situation. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: really see where the problem is, you know, because they
Speaker 1: are dealing with two different spectrums. This is the other
Speaker 1: thing I was thinking about. You're dealing with two different
Speaker 1: times in life. You've got a man who is a
Speaker 1: grown man who is coming to a point in life
Speaker 1: where things are going to change, right, Like that's just
Speaker 1: the nature of the world. Eventually, his situation is going
Speaker 1: to change. He's not even gonna have at some point
Speaker 1: the stamina to keep up with managing all these different things,
Speaker 1: because that's just that's just not that's not human nature.
Speaker 1: Eventually people slow down, you know, they start focusing on
Speaker 1: other things. May not be one woman, but he's still
Speaker 1: got a lot of fire, and he's still moving and
Speaker 1: shaking and doing what he's doing, and he sees where
Speaker 1: he's he's growing and he's getting older and things are changing.
Speaker 1: So he's living out his truth and living out what
Speaker 1: makes him happy. She also understands his situation because one
Speaker 1: thing about is he is not He don't struggle to
Speaker 1: explain to you exactly what he's trying to do. You
Speaker 1: know it, You understand that. It's clear. So I just
Speaker 1: think that people in I think a good prayer for
Speaker 1: the system, because trust me, there's some cooked places. It's
Speaker 1: some moments when it don't feel good. I don't give
Speaker 1: you what you say. You can sing me and tell
Speaker 1: me until the world switches over that a man has
Speaker 1: a baby while you're in a relationship, and it gets
Speaker 1: on socials and all these people are talking ship and
Speaker 1: having opinions that that don't bother. That's not true, not
Speaker 1: in my opinion. No, I don't think. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think that. I wouldn't say that that don't bother.
Speaker 1: I don't know if. And that's what I try to
Speaker 1: tell you. It's the social media and the public of
Speaker 1: beinion that causes the confusion because the relationship is what
Speaker 1: it is, it's always been, and it's always somebody else's
Speaker 1: opinion of the relationship that makes you feel like you
Speaker 1: need to say something, you need to do this, or
Speaker 1: you need to feel away, and you know, and I
Speaker 1: think that's who it is. I think the court of
Speaker 1: public opinion is always the place where it causes most
Speaker 1: confusion in relationships and friendships, you know. And that's why
Speaker 1: most successful individuals who have relationship, you don't see their
Speaker 1: their business inside the tabloids. You don't see it on
Speaker 1: social media. You don't see those things. You might see
Speaker 1: it once in a while, them out together this and that,
Speaker 1: but for the most part, they keep their relationships to
Speaker 1: themselves because once it gets the social media or media,
Speaker 1: it just turns the ship into a circus. So I
Speaker 1: don't you know, hopeful shout out to Diddy and creation Man.
Speaker 1: There's people out out here. There's people out here in
Speaker 1: this world who are literally losing it over this situation,
Speaker 1: struggling and stressed about the most. And I don't mean
Speaker 1: to be rude or anything, but a lot of people
Speaker 1: are dealing with the same situation as those people are
Speaker 1: dealing with and they don't even know it, and they're
Speaker 1: dealing with it under false pretenses. They're dealing with less.
Speaker 1: But no, there's people that don't. It's people that judging
Speaker 1: somebody and don't even know, don't don't they don't even
Speaker 1: know the full understanding of their own partner. And that's
Speaker 1: just a reality when you have conversations and and and
Speaker 1: and that's why I respected he because at this point
Speaker 1: he's getting to a point where he's honest about who
Speaker 1: he is. And when you talk to most men, most
Speaker 1: men have a completely different ideology in reality than what
Speaker 1: they let their partners to know. And it's just because
Speaker 1: we've been taught and why in that way, you know,
Speaker 1: we've been talking like people listen, I'm listening to Dr
Speaker 1: Umar Johnson, who wants like I want to have two wives.
Speaker 1: I wanted in political or whatever, and people like a
Speaker 1: bunch of dudes, are you bugging? You bugging? Now, you
Speaker 1: were saying if he was in the room with y'all
Speaker 1: and it wasn't on public and your girl and seeing,
Speaker 1: nobody wouldn't be saying youre bugging because that's not a
Speaker 1: conversation that they have in real life, you know stand
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, I just think that it's so much,
Speaker 1: especially in this regard, in this conversation, that there's so
Speaker 1: much people that have not come to their own realization
Speaker 1: of being honest with themselves and being truthful that they
Speaker 1: they utilize just like it's like the pastor the pastor
Speaker 1: that you know that's gay, that's every every thing they're
Speaker 1: talking like, oh, we gotta get the gays out of here,
Speaker 1: and then you find out they're having sex or so's
Speaker 1: it's one of those things. It's one of those things
Speaker 1: that they used to cover up and try to shield
Speaker 1: it off the reality what they dealing with. So a
Speaker 1: lot of men are dealing with that. Man. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Diddy, Shout out to Karasia for just living your truth. Man.
Speaker 1: So now our guests, as a married couple that ain't
Speaker 1: living like Karasia and Diddy. They got a whole different situation. Man,
Speaker 1: let's bring them on. So today we have two new
Speaker 1: guests who haven't been here before, who are going to
Speaker 1: be our friends, because that's the running joke on this
Speaker 1: show that everybody we interview as our friends. But these
Speaker 1: two love birds turn entrepreneurs and life changers. So they
Speaker 1: are the co founders of Cool Creative and Cool Church
Speaker 1: and we're just happy to have you. Um, I've been
Speaker 1: blessed to have one of these cool jackets. Is also
Speaker 1: so you know, we've been a fan ever since we
Speaker 1: got those jackets. They were amazing, you know. Shout out
Speaker 1: to our friend and yours the cole chaplain who put
Speaker 1: me up. Shout she's the one who got me my jacket.
Speaker 1: But to me, you know, she's famous. She was in
Speaker 1: the video Rhapsody where they all had the jackets, so
Speaker 1: the famous people got the jackie's first. But you know,
Speaker 1: I just how you guys are doing today. That's a
Speaker 1: beautiful day. We're so glad to be here, just honored
Speaker 1: to be um Or with y'all. Man, y'all the world changes, man,
Speaker 1: y'all on the front lines making things happen, and we
Speaker 1: always want to connect with folks that are doing something positive.
Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you so much, so much. That
Speaker 1: Wall is phenomenal. I like that this is all his stuff.
Speaker 1: He's the illustrator. Oh wonderful, that's wonderful. Well listen, first
Speaker 1: of all, welcome the Street Politicians. And you know, my
Speaker 1: son mentioned the sort of running thing that we have
Speaker 1: that everybody's our friend because we have so many friends
Speaker 1: that's doing powerful things around the world. Uh. And whether
Speaker 1: you start out our friend or become our friend later
Speaker 1: somehow or another, we sort of become family because we
Speaker 1: are really looking for We don't We don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of people on our show that we don't agree
Speaker 1: with or that we're fighting back and forth, even though
Speaker 1: that that's my son's Instagram he does that. But on
Speaker 1: Street Politicians, we really do try to make sure that
Speaker 1: those gems that are out there that people don't know about, right,
Speaker 1: because we complained there's no you know, we don't have this.
Speaker 1: What we don't have we can't find services, we can't
Speaker 1: find good customer service. Uh. And yet there are companies
Speaker 1: like who Creative that exists that I've had a great
Speaker 1: experience with. So I do have the phenomenal slash historic
Speaker 1: for Earth jacket which has on it your illustrations. Obviously
Speaker 1: we're now learning terrence of black women and others who
Speaker 1: are our icons, right, That's all that was in the
Speaker 1: video with Rhapsody others on that shot, and that shoot
Speaker 1: had jackets on shoutout to Rhapsody, that's our sister, UM
Speaker 1: and so that was amazing. But then Nicole Chaplin gave
Speaker 1: me another jacket that was a tribute to my book
Speaker 1: State of Emergency. So I have all of that in
Speaker 1: my in my closet that I do wear, and you know,
Speaker 1: I just wonder, I guess the question first question is
Speaker 1: why do that business? Everybody else trying to do, you know,
Speaker 1: entertainment and what's popping, what's lit. But you guys are
Speaker 1: making history and icons cool. Why are you? Why did
Speaker 1: you choose to make Cool Creative about that? I think?
Speaker 1: UM for background is we started UM with Cool Creative
Speaker 1: as a branding and a design agency. So we were
Speaker 1: doing that for quite a while, working with large and
Speaker 1: small businesses, bringing ideas to life and doing all that
Speaker 1: and UM and about five years into it, we got
Speaker 1: into the fashion space. Uh, Terrence was drawing these great
Speaker 1: illustrations because he was trying to teach our daughter, who's
Speaker 1: now twelve, but she was six at the time, where um,
Speaker 1: he was trying to teach her about the icons of
Speaker 1: our culture, of of our history, people that made a change.
Speaker 1: And so you know, he's an illustrated by choice, by trade.
Speaker 1: I'm in design. We met in art school, which is
Speaker 1: the whole create out of love, if you don't know,
Speaker 1: COOL stands for create out of love. And that's not
Speaker 1: only a mission for us, but that's kind of like
Speaker 1: our back story as well. We met in a creative
Speaker 1: space doing creative things, and we've been creating ever since together.
Speaker 1: And so anyways, he was doing all of these illustrations
Speaker 1: as a way to teach our daughters about um, real
Speaker 1: icons that she could look up to. And I love
Speaker 1: the drawing so much, and I was like, I'm about
Speaker 1: to put this on some clothes and I did, and um,
Speaker 1: this is like when I first started getting onto the
Speaker 1: social media's and things and um, and then I put
Speaker 1: it up and people wanted them. So I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well demand is there. Let's see if we can move
Speaker 1: these pieces. We moved them and then we just kept
Speaker 1: and that's just kind of like the rest is history. UM.
Speaker 1: Of course, there's a lot more that went into it.
Speaker 1: There's there's you know, failure, there's winds, there's Grammys, there's
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. There's you guys, UM that are
Speaker 1: part of the story as well. UM. But it all started,
Speaker 1: UH with a passion project, something that my husband was
Speaker 1: doing to teach and to help our daughter, and we
Speaker 1: saw an opportunity. But I also want to touch on
Speaker 1: the fact that the culture spends so much money on fashion,
Speaker 1: especially luxury fashion, that don't love them, and we're trying
Speaker 1: to help, you know, we we're trying to represent or
Speaker 1: be one of the brands that represent us and UM.
Speaker 1: You know, there's so many of us that are that
Speaker 1: are making more money, doing more things, open starting more businesses.
Speaker 1: So you know, people want to look good. People wanna
Speaker 1: you know, represent UM, you know their values, and so
Speaker 1: we're like, where is that brand? And so we didn't
Speaker 1: see it, So we created it. UM. We're We're We're
Speaker 1: the brand. We want to be known as the brand
Speaker 1: or at least one of the pioneers of UM the
Speaker 1: fashion brands that are for us by us. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Fubu, But but like that really connect with who
Speaker 1: we are, and specifically in luxury fashion, we will want
Speaker 1: high quality luxury fashion that represents us because we deserve
Speaker 1: the best. We deserve quality and um something that honors
Speaker 1: us and that and that doesn't mean that we don't
Speaker 1: invite other people and allies and you know, people that
Speaker 1: want that want to be part of the culture into it.
Speaker 1: But we gotta love us first and make something for
Speaker 1: us first. And that's what we're all about. I love
Speaker 1: that answer. And you know I've been I've been very
Speaker 1: adamant about black owned businesses and US especially this year,
Speaker 1: US supportant you know us and putting money back into
Speaker 1: our communities and putting investing into generational wealth like every
Speaker 1: other you know coaches seems to do. You know, I
Speaker 1: love the idea and I love what you guys have
Speaker 1: here and and just it was created out of love,
Speaker 1: you know what us. Who are some of the artists
Speaker 1: that you've been working with, you guys have been working
Speaker 1: I've seen these jackets. I don't know all of the people,
Speaker 1: but give us name drop a little bit. Man. You
Speaker 1: gotta you know, you gotta probab your chest out a
Speaker 1: little bit. You've seen rap City you've seen a fabulous
Speaker 1: uh at times, we've seen Colin Kaepernick rocking the Angela
Speaker 1: Davis T. I mean, it's it's definitely been getting around
Speaker 1: a lot. And just like my wife was saying, like
Speaker 1: it all really um stems from a heart of education.
Speaker 1: Man Like, yes, we want to make a luxury street
Speaker 1: win things like that, but also we want to start conversations.
Speaker 1: And I think that's been like the most beautiful thing
Speaker 1: that we've seen as we've seen this brand go from
Speaker 1: place to place. Killer Mike was wearing it that the
Speaker 1: Grammys and different things like that. But once again, it's
Speaker 1: all with a purpose of education. It's conversation starters. If
Speaker 1: I walk around with Angela Davis been nine times out
Speaker 1: of ten when I'm walking around, people like who is that?
Speaker 1: And I get to start telling stories and say things
Speaker 1: that Angela Davis said, like walls knocked down, sideways, Bill bridges,
Speaker 1: Like that's not a normal quote that you were here,
Speaker 1: but that's a quote that comes up in conversation when
Speaker 1: you talk about the icon when I would don't shoot pin.
Speaker 1: It starts conversation, and some of those conversations their energy
Speaker 1: of the conversations. But I'd rather have the conversation and
Speaker 1: not so once again, it's not about just wearing something
Speaker 1: that looks good, not just about wearing something with the quality,
Speaker 1: but man, the education and the conversation is important to
Speaker 1: advance the culture. So I'm so thankful that so many people,
Speaker 1: i mean, Damian Lillard of that's the cezirely so many
Speaker 1: people have jumped on it. I can keep saying names
Speaker 1: that I hate name dropping. What I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes we gotta do it then because we're
Speaker 1: black and we dope and we're doing dope stuff and
Speaker 1: we want we want people to know that it's not
Speaker 1: even though it's not the big nationwide puntion, but people
Speaker 1: know that you've been doing work, you know, and people
Speaker 1: recognize and I want to also like, you know, um,
Speaker 1: it may seem like, you know, the way that we've
Speaker 1: been able to connect with these these big names is
Speaker 1: because we got this machine behind us. But it's it's
Speaker 1: literally and and you know, there's no PR agency, although
Speaker 1: we have family that's in PR. So whenever they and
Speaker 1: we got people like our our our girl Nicole that
Speaker 1: connected this, it's like, you know, through relationships, we've been
Speaker 1: able to get it on some really great people and
Speaker 1: straight up like slipping into d m s and emailing
Speaker 1: and calling and just and I think what's really made
Speaker 1: it made it go, and I think it could continue
Speaker 1: to go further. But what really has been pushing it
Speaker 1: and it's been getting into some um, pretty influential hands,
Speaker 1: is because it connects with what people have been thinking.
Speaker 1: I love that when, um, I have seen people walk
Speaker 1: into a space, whether it's our store, we're doing a
Speaker 1: pop up, and I see like they'll walk in and
Speaker 1: they're kind of like confused, but then they're so excited
Speaker 1: and then their eyes start to light up and they're like,
Speaker 1: this is this is what I didn't know I needed,
Speaker 1: but I needed, you know. And I think that it's
Speaker 1: resonating with the right people because it's answering something that,
Speaker 1: uh that we you've all been crying for. Everybody who
Speaker 1: wants justice, we need, we deserve justice. We're owe justice
Speaker 1: as human beings. And I just feel like, you know, um,
Speaker 1: this was our response as artists. I think everybody has
Speaker 1: their own platform, right. Our platform is are in design,
Speaker 1: and this is the way that we're trying to make
Speaker 1: moves and get the message out in this space, right
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's interesting you say that because one
Speaker 1: of the things we talked about last week on our show,
Speaker 1: you know, as we now have just had Dr king
Speaker 1: Day two days ago, acknowledging his birthday. Um, most people,
Speaker 1: let let me just ask you, do you guys know
Speaker 1: why cebe Wanted made the happy Birthday song? Oh no
Speaker 1: no good and I'm supposed to be no stuff And
Speaker 1: I didn't know, right, although I found out my parents
Speaker 1: and my sister knew, So I'm not sure why didn't
Speaker 1: passes it's going, but it was. Actually the song is
Speaker 1: a tribute to Dr King. He made the song during
Speaker 1: the fifteen year period where Congressman John Conyers was fighting
Speaker 1: for the federal holiday to be you know, secured where
Speaker 1: Dr King's birthday would be celebrated as it as finally
Speaker 1: it happened. Um. And so when you talk about everyone
Speaker 1: playing their role, fashion is a role uh where aret
Speaker 1: is told and we're politics and and the movement is
Speaker 1: examined through an art expression through fashion. Right. Um, the
Speaker 1: same existed in that moment where Stevie Wonder was trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how could he add his voice to
Speaker 1: a movement for something that black folks and other people
Speaker 1: around the country agreed needed to happen, to celebrate, to honor,
Speaker 1: and to remember Dr King. Too often we find ourselves
Speaker 1: bumping up against one another, everybody trying to do the
Speaker 1: same thing, because you watch someone and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do that because I got the passion
Speaker 1: I want to be in instead of figuring out what
Speaker 1: is your your what is your skill set? What do
Speaker 1: you mean at your fingertips that you can do to
Speaker 1: bring flavor to a movement that needs voices, It needs art,
Speaker 1: it needs expression, it needs everything possible to give entry
Speaker 1: points for your daughter and her friends to feel it's cool.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's to sing about it, you know. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: to write about it. Maybe you know. It's so many
Speaker 1: different ways. So with that being said, I see what
Speaker 1: you all are doing, and I think it is a
Speaker 1: model that so many of our people really need to
Speaker 1: take heed of what you've done and how it continues
Speaker 1: to expand the reach of our movement. The only other
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to ask on this, because I'm sure
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the church, is the quality of
Speaker 1: the clothing. That's a big black business issue. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say problem. And I'm not saying that other communities
Speaker 1: or other uh say what you want to call it.
Speaker 1: Other industries don't have poor quality because there's trash out there.
Speaker 1: You order stuff that comes from wherever and it's not good.
Speaker 1: But but we do have an issue with that as
Speaker 1: Black folks. When you go trying to support certain brands,
Speaker 1: things are falling apart because obviously capital two enhance your
Speaker 1: products and to develop something that is quality, it's difficult
Speaker 1: to obtain that type of capital. So to talk about that, like,
Speaker 1: how have you all been able to keep such quality?
Speaker 1: Like your jackets are actually warm a normal circumstances. When
Speaker 1: you buy those types of jackets, they're not warm. They
Speaker 1: they don't feel good on your skin. Yeah. Absolutely, and
Speaker 1: joy to get more into the technical side of it.
Speaker 1: But here the philosophy that we have definitely taken um
Speaker 1: as we're constructing clothing and designing things, were in the
Speaker 1: cutting so and all that UM and the philosophy is this,
Speaker 1: don't create what you can't sustain. Like a lot of times,
Speaker 1: I think people just want to put out a lot
Speaker 1: of something, and because they want to put out a
Speaker 1: lot of something, they'll let quality suffer. We took ls
Speaker 1: in the beginning because we said, you know what, We're
Speaker 1: just gonna put out limited qualities of these things because
Speaker 1: whatever we put out in the atmosphere, we want to
Speaker 1: make sure represents us properly. And we began to grow
Speaker 1: as we were able to bootstrap to attain more capital,
Speaker 1: and by bootstrapping a game more capital then we were
Speaker 1: we were able to produce more products, but initially in
Speaker 1: the beginning, and it's something I would tell any young
Speaker 1: designer that's trying to do it the way that we
Speaker 1: do with trying to trying to sneak in the culture.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, start stuff on limited runs, like put
Speaker 1: the put the value into the piece that you're making.
Speaker 1: You don't have to do a lot because if you
Speaker 1: do a little and it hits, then the demand is there.
Speaker 1: So you wanted to make sure that the quality was
Speaker 1: there because we knew if the quality was there, then
Speaker 1: they'd ask for more and we will figure out a
Speaker 1: way to make more. So, yeah, we'll never create something
Speaker 1: we can't sustain. And that's a model that we stretched
Speaker 1: throughout our entire business, church, everything that we do. That's
Speaker 1: really at the forefront of the philosophy. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think um, with the with the quality and the sourcing
Speaker 1: of of of the pieces, they've gotten better. I will
Speaker 1: say when we first started, they weren't as good. Especially
Speaker 1: the jackets were have been pretty six um um consistent, Yes,
Speaker 1: in their quality and as a matter of fact, they
Speaker 1: are getting even better. But with the shirts, we had
Speaker 1: some problem. We we really had some challenges there because
Speaker 1: we were using blanks and we were limited to what
Speaker 1: was already out there. We didn't know, um, we didn't
Speaker 1: know a lot, and we just kept researching, researching, And
Speaker 1: I think that's the one of our differentiating factors is
Speaker 1: that we continue to improve where we are just satisfied
Speaker 1: with just you know where we are today. It's like
Speaker 1: I believe that our customers, if they're going to spend
Speaker 1: that money, that we want to make it worth their
Speaker 1: while and so um and not just in product, but
Speaker 1: also service. There's been some times where you know, because
Speaker 1: you're you're running so much, you're gonna have some problems
Speaker 1: issues here and there. Thank god, we haven't had a
Speaker 1: lot of them, but when we did, we stand by
Speaker 1: our product and we will fix the issue and send
Speaker 1: them a new one or or whatever it is. And
Speaker 1: We've seen that a lot with with customer service especially.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you're talking about a lot of
Speaker 1: our businesses. Um, a lot of times it's a lack
Speaker 1: of customer service to the product is not just the
Speaker 1: physical thing, but it's like the experience that somebody has,
Speaker 1: so um yeah, so that's really important to us. And
Speaker 1: then once again it's like it's the name that we
Speaker 1: stand by. It's created out of love. Like if I'm
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna create something and saying I'm doing it
Speaker 1: for the love, then I'm not showing you love when
Speaker 1: it falls apart on you, like that stuff actually matters,
Speaker 1: like you on our name to mean something. It's not
Speaker 1: like we're sitting here and saying, oh man, we're just
Speaker 1: creating stuff and we're not worried about the money. But
Speaker 1: I promise you the money wasn't the first objective. The
Speaker 1: education was the first subjective. What we were presenting for
Speaker 1: us and people like us was something that we knew
Speaker 1: that they could hold onto a long time, Like she
Speaker 1: knows me, I'm gonna sneak ahead. I got probably too many.
Speaker 1: But and it's not just because I keep attaining them.
Speaker 1: I take care of what I have um leaving the
Speaker 1: principle of stewardship. So once again we want to give
Speaker 1: you quality items that we know if you take care
Speaker 1: of well, man, they'll last you a lifetime. So that
Speaker 1: that once again that goes back to that love piece.
Speaker 1: We're gonna make it and put inject the love in
Speaker 1: it because we want you to. We want you to
Speaker 1: feel that when you wear, if you feel loved when
Speaker 1: you wear, or you feel like, man, they really took
Speaker 1: their time on this then man, that shows that we
Speaker 1: got a successful business model and we always want you
Speaker 1: to feel a love when you feel in garmage, I
Speaker 1: think you touched on something um and and in essence
Speaker 1: you were saying to macauld stay in your lane. And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of what we're seeing, especially with
Speaker 1: a lot of businesses, is that of businesses that are
Speaker 1: run by by entrepreneurs of colors that they're not staying
Speaker 1: in their lane. And we're seeing evidence of that in
Speaker 1: the product and the service and all of that. Understood that,
Speaker 1: you know, we want everybody to create and sustain a
Speaker 1: business for themselves and to to win and thrive. But
Speaker 1: if that's not your expertise and you haven't educated yourself
Speaker 1: or or done what you need to do to master
Speaker 1: that area. Then maybe that area is not for you
Speaker 1: find something that is. And so for us, we know
Speaker 1: that this is our space. And and just because it's
Speaker 1: our space doesn't mean we can't improve. But we don't.
Speaker 1: We're good at what we do. That I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: I don't name dropped, but I could name drop my
Speaker 1: skill like like I'm like, we're really good at what stop?
Speaker 1: You stop? You know what I'm saying, Like, and we
Speaker 1: know what we're doing and we have you know, we've
Speaker 1: studied it for years where he's a master in art
Speaker 1: in art like degrees like we have you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, we do this, I mean we we are.
Speaker 1: Can I just ask one last question? And uh, in
Speaker 1: terms of sales, right, let's talk about that for a moment.
Speaker 1: The pitfalls of you know, as you said and begin
Speaker 1: it was you take you took a lot of ls.
Speaker 1: How have you grown? I'm sure there's leaps and bounds,
Speaker 1: you know. I just saw that Pinky no, no, not
Speaker 1: Pinky my l Organics, which is the hair that she
Speaker 1: was just picked up by you know, bought by PNG.
Speaker 1: She will remain, uh, the CEO of the company but nonetheless,
Speaker 1: um that is now you know, that's a big win, right,
Speaker 1: It's a big win because we should have the resources
Speaker 1: to grow our brands from these major brands that have
Speaker 1: been taking money from our communities forever and ever. And
Speaker 1: I see a lot of people who are concerned because
Speaker 1: they claim, you know, they're saying shape moister, they changed
Speaker 1: the products, you know, after white folks got involved. So
Speaker 1: what is your feeling about that? The scaling in terms
Speaker 1: of this you know, capitalistic society, unfortunity that we live in.
Speaker 1: Where are you now? What were the pitfalls and where
Speaker 1: you think you're going? Yeah, I think you know. Bravo
Speaker 1: for her. She made a deal. Um, we're learning more
Speaker 1: and more about the details of that deal. Um, she
Speaker 1: will remain CEO, so there meet there is a level
Speaker 1: of control that she'll be able to maintain. Actually start,
Speaker 1: My first job was actually with PNG and they they,
Speaker 1: at least internally, they were really good at highlighting people,
Speaker 1: well black people. Um, they were we Like I was
Speaker 1: just going in and I was at the able with
Speaker 1: the CEO of the whole organization, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like my first year in they and and they were
Speaker 1: asking my opinion and actually implemented things. Um, that saw
Speaker 1: the light of day. So you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not gonna stay mad forever. If I'm
Speaker 1: asking for justice and justice is here, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: throw it back in their faith. And so I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, she made that deal. Um, we're I'm trusting
Speaker 1: that the deal was above board and she got everything
Speaker 1: that she wanted. And she has every right. Listen, we're
Speaker 1: in business to to to meet needs. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's not a nonprofit organization absolutely,
Speaker 1: as what I'm saying. And so if that was part
Speaker 1: of her exit strategy, then more power to her. And
Speaker 1: and if and if for whatever reason the product gets
Speaker 1: watered down, hey we can always create another. So my
Speaker 1: my ideas are infinite, and I know hers are too.
Speaker 1: She worked hard to get to this point. Yeah, we're sorry.
Speaker 1: So talk about your own scaling process, Like when you started,
Speaker 1: you said there were losses, and now you feel like
Speaker 1: you're bore stabilized. Yeah, we're growing, We're still in the
Speaker 1: scaling process. Um, we are now in Macy's in headquarters
Speaker 1: New York, where in Atlanta where online so makes these
Speaker 1: dot com as well and that's been a really fruitful partnership. UM.
Speaker 1: The end was our end. Foot in the door had
Speaker 1: to do with all of the all the everything that
Speaker 1: was going on with UM, with our recent UM George
Speaker 1: Floyda activity, all of that, So that was part of
Speaker 1: their So that was part of the and I don't care.
Speaker 1: That was the open door. So we want we we
Speaker 1: busted the door down because we had already been in
Speaker 1: alanis like you didn't invent it, just to combat that,
Speaker 1: we exactly. And so so that's been going really well,
Speaker 1: and we've been meeting that. I mean, it's straight up
Speaker 1: like there were times where some of that that the
Speaker 1: packing for that was happening in our garage, So it's
Speaker 1: like from the garage to Macy's, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: so crazy. And then UM Nordstrom picked us up for
Speaker 1: a few projects and we're still in talks with then
Speaker 1: on growing that relationship, target and other things. And and
Speaker 1: what's great is that we've been able to maintain UM
Speaker 1: the messaging, like we still saying what we are. There's
Speaker 1: been no watering down of any of it. And so
Speaker 1: I'm really grateful. And as a matter of fact, there
Speaker 1: were you know, we've we've they've been asking us for more,
Speaker 1: you know, and so I think, um, the scaling is
Speaker 1: going really good. And one thing is is that we've
Speaker 1: been scaling pretty slowly. Part of that is because of
Speaker 1: our you know, we're trying to be really intentional and
Speaker 1: careful about the growth because for us, it's like we
Speaker 1: grow slowly so that we can sustain it and it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be I don't want this thing to be
Speaker 1: an overnight success and then you never hear from us again.
Speaker 1: And so we want to maintain that slow and steady growth.
Speaker 1: And so that's been kind of our our our model,
Speaker 1: and we're just gonna keep on getting it out there, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, as as as much as we can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think the way you're scaled to is
Speaker 1: also based on your objectives. Man. We're really intentional about
Speaker 1: legacy because this is a this is a family business,
Speaker 1: and you know, we see things with our daughter, who
Speaker 1: is a fashion needs that she's an artist, just like
Speaker 1: she's drawing and designing things every day, and we're really
Speaker 1: trying to set her up now if she grows up
Speaker 1: and decides that's, hey, that's not what she wants to do,
Speaker 1: at least we know as parents, Um, she can stand
Speaker 1: on our shoulders if she chooses to take the thing farther.
Speaker 1: But because we're being really intentional about that legacy piece, Um,
Speaker 1: there's just a certain level of control that we're not
Speaker 1: willing to give up at this stage. So if it
Speaker 1: means we gotta go slower, we're okay with that. But
Speaker 1: doors are still opening in the process and the products. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it, man, you guys amazing. Man. I just
Speaker 1: I love the mind state, right because everybody wants to
Speaker 1: just get rich and get famous and and and when
Speaker 1: you create something out of love, like you said, the
Speaker 1: reward comes. You know, you rewarded because you're doing it
Speaker 1: out of passionate your heart. You know, when you do
Speaker 1: things for passion and purpose, then you will ultimately get rewards.
Speaker 1: So you know, I want to say I appreciate that
Speaker 1: element of it. Being an artist and being a creative,
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't understand that. Like I never
Speaker 1: was able to make art and think about what this
Speaker 1: is gonna make me money? Like you know, I never
Speaker 1: thought every time I made art is I wanted people
Speaker 1: to feel my art. I wanted people to understand where
Speaker 1: I came from. When I made it. That was that
Speaker 1: was the main thing. Everything else, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: blessing if it comes. But you want people to feel
Speaker 1: what it is that you wanted them to feel when
Speaker 1: you created something. So I look at that aspect. Tell
Speaker 1: us about cool church. Oh boy, oh man, that's fun.
Speaker 1: I pitched back off of this, but he's he's so,
Speaker 1: I told you I started. We started this as a
Speaker 1: Brandon agency, right, and then if it evolved into fashion,
Speaker 1: we still do branding work. We do that day to
Speaker 1: day as as in addition to the fashion. And then
Speaker 1: about four years ago, this guy comes and he's like, hey, uh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna start a church because he's been in ministry.
Speaker 1: I've been a pass for thirteen years at that point,
Speaker 1: so I was working under another ministry at that time.
Speaker 1: And then he's like and he's like, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: call the church cool Church. And I was like what.
Speaker 1: I was horrified. Horrified. Everything that I have learned, been taught,
Speaker 1: everything that I've worked on in my career said you
Speaker 1: do not do that. You don't mix. First of all,
Speaker 1: you don't mix anything to do with with faith in
Speaker 1: all of that, although it's all faith, right. And then Secondly,
Speaker 1: it's like this idea of brand cannibalization. So that's like
Speaker 1: a big term to say, you know when you uh,
Speaker 1: you could confuse the consumer if if everything is named
Speaker 1: the same. And so I was just like, no one's
Speaker 1: gonna know what we do because it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: the fashion, it's brand, it's this, it's church. It's like
Speaker 1: and I had to have a real moment with God
Speaker 1: and I felt the Lord tell me clearly, he was like,
Speaker 1: give me the brand, and I'm gonna take it further
Speaker 1: than you could ever do on your own. Hm. And
Speaker 1: when he took over, that's when all these all these
Speaker 1: things that we're talking about in scaling and where this
Speaker 1: product it happened that the hands that it's landed on,
Speaker 1: the places that it's been, it's gone further than we
Speaker 1: ever could take it on our own. See, we put
Speaker 1: that put that faith on it. That was just like
Speaker 1: you know, insane growth. And once again it's about the
Speaker 1: purpose piece, right. So it's like you take what's in
Speaker 1: your hand, you connected with what's in your heart, you
Speaker 1: find purpose, right, So that that creative peace was always
Speaker 1: in our hand. But man, we always have passion to
Speaker 1: love on people. So yeah, the brand element of it
Speaker 1: was created out of love. And when we started the
Speaker 1: church and called it cool, we said, okay, you're created
Speaker 1: out of love because we wanted people to understand the
Speaker 1: value that they have, like at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: like so many people and this is the age that
Speaker 1: we're talking about it. Ten years ago, we weren't talking
Speaker 1: about depression and things the way that we're talking. Weren't
Speaker 1: talking about mental mental health and all those things. But
Speaker 1: now that's just that's a that's a constant conversation, uh peace. Right,
Speaker 1: So when we start to say created out of love,
Speaker 1: we were trying to really just pull out the beauty
Speaker 1: in people, letting people know, hey, man, you were created
Speaker 1: I love. I believe in a God that made you
Speaker 1: because he loves you. But I don't just think you're
Speaker 1: created out of love. I think you're created by love.
Speaker 1: I think that God is loved, like like I can't
Speaker 1: talk about the fact that that you know, my God
Speaker 1: is this, but at the end of the day, my
Speaker 1: my God is loved. So that means that I have
Speaker 1: to live a life of no matter what that looks like.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for love, I'm looking for justice, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at for peace, I'm looking for unity amongst people. But
Speaker 1: then it's not just created out of love and by love.
Speaker 1: We're created for love. What's the point of loving God?
Speaker 1: And we can't love each other, We can't love our
Speaker 1: fellow man. You know, if we're talking about it biblically,
Speaker 1: Jesus does love your neighbor as yourself. So I feel
Speaker 1: like we are obligated as as humans to find common
Speaker 1: ground man like like equality, unity, justice is such a must.
Speaker 1: And I believe that love is the strongest force on
Speaker 1: the planet. So I said, hey, if we're gonna build
Speaker 1: a church on something, we're gonna build the church on love.
Speaker 1: You can anybody can come. We we we ain't calling
Speaker 1: you an outcast because or where you are, what you
Speaker 1: identify with all that stuff. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: God made you. He loves you. So we wanted people
Speaker 1: to be able to come into that place. And it's
Speaker 1: not just say we love them. We want them to
Speaker 1: experience love. Um and we do that in the context
Speaker 1: of community that we call church. So and where is
Speaker 1: the church locate it? Yes, so we're in a mirror
Speaker 1: mar Florida. So that would be like twenty minutes west
Speaker 1: of like a for a lot of day. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we're more than that central suburban part uh South Florida. Um.
Speaker 1: But you know anywhere in South Florida, I feel like
Speaker 1: you can get there in twenty minutes. So people come
Speaker 1: from all over. We got people coming from north, south, east,
Speaker 1: and west, and they're converging on this little city to
Speaker 1: called Mirror Mare because I just found the spot we
Speaker 1: love is. So that's what we're gonna be. What you
Speaker 1: guys have members, Yeah, oh god, there's a lot so so. Um.
Speaker 1: We launched the twenty nineteen and launched day. First day,
Speaker 1: we had a thousand people show up to the church. Uh, listen,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not because we're that great of people.
Speaker 1: I just believe when God breathes on stuff, when he
Speaker 1: purposes you to do something, He's gonna send everything you
Speaker 1: need to make that happen. But once again, we have
Speaker 1: been boots on the ground in the community for the
Speaker 1: last thirteen years. So our track record of what we
Speaker 1: were about how we love people. When you just saying
Speaker 1: from the pulpit, we were doing it out in the
Speaker 1: streets and in the communities. Stars and people showed up.
Speaker 1: We were running good at twelve hundred people, and March happened.
Speaker 1: We jumped online. We pivoted properly. Um thousands of people
Speaker 1: watching online. But last year was our very first year
Speaker 1: of meeting consecutively physically for a year. On a Sunday,
Speaker 1: you show up, there's probably seven hundreds so people learning that.
Speaker 1: We still got a bunch of folks, hundreds folks watching online.
Speaker 1: So church is strong, man, It's it's powerful. But like, honestly,
Speaker 1: I have do y'all have good saying, that's what they
Speaker 1: because it's a Caribbean so you got that little element
Speaker 1: in there. So yeah, I'm treinitiation. We got all that
Speaker 1: mixed up in there. We got all around. When I
Speaker 1: go to church, I need to cry, like I have
Speaker 1: to be good. I'm gonna tell you. You might, you might,
Speaker 1: you might ride for that, but you're really gonna cry
Speaker 1: because the presence of the Holy spiriten is there. From
Speaker 1: the parking lot, you could feel the presence of God
Speaker 1: there and that is something that you know stays with
Speaker 1: you and it's unforgettable. Fact. Yeah, yeah, well you guys
Speaker 1: are unforgettable. Man. I love the work you're doing. Man,
Speaker 1: appreciate what I want to ask one thing, what what
Speaker 1: what do you want two in the next ten years,
Speaker 1: where do you see everything the whole? Cool brand? Like,
Speaker 1: what what is your vision for everything? He loves this thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to listen. Man, I don't. I don't just
Speaker 1: want a cool church. I want a cool brand. I
Speaker 1: want a cool world. Man. I want I want look
Speaker 1: like man. I want love to be the unifying force
Speaker 1: on the planet or whatever vehicle God allows us to use,
Speaker 1: whether it be clothing, whether it be a message, whether
Speaker 1: it be service out in the community. I just want
Speaker 1: people that the end of the day to see that
Speaker 1: love is the strongest force and all of existence. So yeah, well,
Speaker 1: of course we're gonna expand the church. Man. I want
Speaker 1: cool I want cool churches everywhere. But more than the church,
Speaker 1: I want I want communities of people that are showing
Speaker 1: the world how to love one another properly, how to
Speaker 1: love their neighbor as themselves. As far as the brain, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: we we we wanted to continue experience right now. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's in Japan, it's in Dubai. But man, there's
Speaker 1: so many places in the world that we just want
Speaker 1: to clothe with love. We just want to make sure
Speaker 1: that message gets out. Man. We want to carry on
Speaker 1: what Dr King did at the at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, he pushed non violence. But the core of that,
Speaker 1: in the heart of that, in the center of that
Speaker 1: was love. We we see the power of love, and
Speaker 1: we wouldn't be sitting here today and even have the
Speaker 1: opportunity to do the things that we weren't doing if
Speaker 1: somebody didn't take a stand. So once again, love is
Speaker 1: always gonna be the foundation of everything that we do.
Speaker 1: But we don't want just a cool church or cool brand.
Speaker 1: We want to see a cool world. We want to
Speaker 1: see the world influenced by the love and the The
Speaker 1: biggest thing that we want to leave by high when
Speaker 1: it's all set and done, it's cool school. We want
Speaker 1: to teach the next generation high love too. Um. I
Speaker 1: remember coming up art school for a kid like me
Speaker 1: was something that you had to pay a lot of
Speaker 1: money for and you had to pray to God accepted
Speaker 1: into coming from Dade County, Carol CD that that wasn't
Speaker 1: the options that gave me. They said you gotta play ball, you,
Speaker 1: they say you gotta do this. I'm like, no, man,
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm an artist. So we want to create
Speaker 1: UM education k all the way to seeing your high
Speaker 1: That really um UM pushes and motivates the creative spirits
Speaker 1: of the next generation, especially in black and brown communities
Speaker 1: where those things are kept from us. Want to make
Speaker 1: sure that we're injecting art and love into the culture
Speaker 1: so that the next generation sees the opportunities that their
Speaker 1: creativity can afford them. So that's that's really the biggest goal.
Speaker 1: We want to spread love, but we want love to
Speaker 1: reach the next generation. A cool world, world world. Well,
Speaker 1: listen to the will. Since Joanne and Terence Terry, I
Speaker 1: think when you come back the next time, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be Terry. Put some respect on your name. Today, I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm proud. I feel so much, you know, pride,
Speaker 1: to just have the two of you sitting here, have
Speaker 1: this story and you know, to know that, as my
Speaker 1: son said, because one thing, Um, you know that that
Speaker 1: usually I say, you know, me and Mice get into
Speaker 1: it about everything. We debate every issue. But I will
Speaker 1: say the one thing he's very very honest about is
Speaker 1: that he does do everything with passion. Like he we're
Speaker 1: trying to tell him, like you know, well, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you could take that song and turn it into
Speaker 1: you know, something where you can make money. And he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but the impact though, I really want people to feel it.
Speaker 1: You know. That's that's just truly you know who he is,
Speaker 1: and so we that's a it's or we wanted to
Speaker 1: be infectious, like we want everybody to have that same
Speaker 1: passion that if we could reach somebody, if we could
Speaker 1: touch the next generation, if everything that we do has
Speaker 1: the ability to move the needle in our culture, that's
Speaker 1: what's important because the money will follow. For sure. People
Speaker 1: see who you are and a believe in you, they're
Speaker 1: willing to invest. And so I am proud to have
Speaker 1: whol creative projects. I mean, excuse me, products, and I
Speaker 1: want more stuff. And I just want to thank you
Speaker 1: all for being you know who you are, and we
Speaker 1: know it's not easy. You know a lot of people
Speaker 1: gonna look at y'all. Y'all look good, y'all shining, you
Speaker 1: look good. You know, your your marriage is on display,
Speaker 1: the church is there. But we know it's tough moments,
Speaker 1: it's dark days, um, and you know we want that
Speaker 1: to come across to that we can just keep pushing
Speaker 1: through and and you know, look what you all are
Speaker 1: able to accomplish. So thank y'all so much for joining
Speaker 1: us today. Thank you, appreciate your stand keep doing what
Speaker 1: you do. We love you, We're proud of you. We're praying.
Speaker 1: Thank you' all. Thank you all for selfless and putting
Speaker 1: yourself out on the front lines and put change and
Speaker 1: really appreciate you. Thank you. Cool world, cool world. He
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Man. Shout out to Joanne and Terrence Wilson,
Speaker 1: the Cool Creative. They are awesome man. The energy is infectious.
Speaker 1: You can tell that they do it with a passion
Speaker 1: and a purpose. You know. All I knew prior to
Speaker 1: this was, you know, the Code always talks about them,
Speaker 1: and then we had the Jackets. I knew the quality
Speaker 1: of the Jackets. I've never been to the church, but
Speaker 1: she's always adamant calling me, telling me, but you've got
Speaker 1: to see my friends this and that. So just hearing them,
Speaker 1: you understand what it is like. You get everything that
Speaker 1: they're doing, and you see with the place of love
Speaker 1: that it comes from, you know, and I see big
Speaker 1: things for them. They're gone far. You know now that
Speaker 1: again they're in Macy's there in all these places. I'm
Speaker 1: not worried about them, but we do as a people
Speaker 1: because there was someone sitting right in our positions saying
Speaker 1: the same thing about Foo Boo right saying the same
Speaker 1: thing about Seawan John saying the same thing about Baby
Speaker 1: Fat that I'm not worried about them because the culture
Speaker 1: loves it. It's gonna grow, They're gonna be fine. But
Speaker 1: the problem is that at some point we allow these
Speaker 1: other brands that are not owned by our people to
Speaker 1: seek in and become the go to right they become.
Speaker 1: So it's like, and actually, there's a jacket that Louis
Speaker 1: Baton has that I absolutely love, and it's exactly one
Speaker 1: of those varsity style jackets that they had on today.
Speaker 1: I want that jacket. I have been, you know, putting pension,
Speaker 1: my little money to the side to figure out when
Speaker 1: I can get it. But I don't really need the
Speaker 1: Louis Baton jacket. If I could get the same type
Speaker 1: of quality and a look that's just as fly from
Speaker 1: cool creative. So I've decided I'm not gonna I'm not
Speaker 1: going to default, even though I'm not saying anything's wrong
Speaker 1: to believe the time, anybody who has that, that's good, whatever,
Speaker 1: it's fine. But we have to train ourselves to put
Speaker 1: our brands, our communities are our things, the things that
Speaker 1: represent us to plea the people that you know from
Speaker 1: a mom and pop perspective, they're hiring Jojo, like real
Speaker 1: jojo to press up stuff in the back, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Whereas you know it's take you gotta
Speaker 1: have a certain I won't say pedigree, but you do
Speaker 1: have to be a certain type of person to get
Speaker 1: the job in these big corporate companies, even as a
Speaker 1: salesperson on the floor. We just talked about the article
Speaker 1: um that I mentioned where they were talking about getting
Speaker 1: rid of the college requirement for some major corporate jobs,
Speaker 1: right because certain types of people they basically are blocking
Speaker 1: p out of the process. Right. And so you you
Speaker 1: you show up right now to Louis Baton to uh
Speaker 1: you know whoever finde Chanel. Whatever you apply for a job,
Speaker 1: they run super background check. You know that. Then again,
Speaker 1: they have all these requirements to try to make sure
Speaker 1: that they narrow down the pool. But when you go
Speaker 1: to try to work for somebody like cool, creative and
Speaker 1: all these brands that belong to us, those requirements are
Speaker 1: not as demanding. So I just you know, we have
Speaker 1: to invest in that we do we're doing. We gotta
Speaker 1: be very intentional. As I said, we have to be
Speaker 1: very intentional. We gotta promote invest we gotta we we
Speaker 1: have to retrain ourselves. Like even with the the whole
Speaker 1: Nike Boyd cards that I've been doing, it was it
Speaker 1: was intentional for me to retreat myself because I started
Speaker 1: looking at those sneakers, Like those sneakers kind of defined me, right,
Speaker 1: Like people know you've got ninekees and they see you
Speaker 1: and it's like some level of status. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: how do how do I allow this brand or any
Speaker 1: brand to give me status? Right? I actually give the
Speaker 1: brand that status. Right, So when we look at Louis Baton, all,
Speaker 1: they're nice, but I can't attach myself so so much
Speaker 1: to it that it means that it validates who I am. Right,
Speaker 1: I don't need I don't even need that type of energy.
Speaker 1: I don't even need the people who validate me based
Speaker 1: on those things, right, because you're you're drawing the wrong
Speaker 1: level of energy. Because if my clothes are the things
Speaker 1: that you're attracted to and not the individual, and then
Speaker 1: you turn into the clothes, then I know that superficial
Speaker 1: I know eventually, eventually, if God works come to worst
Speaker 1: and those things and these possessions and no longer things
Speaker 1: that I can have, then the relationship or the level,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, it's not gonna exist anyway. So when
Speaker 1: we when we start creating things and we start putting
Speaker 1: the value into the things that we create, and we
Speaker 1: started dictating the value based on us, when people start
Speaker 1: seeing it has to be good because you wear it,
Speaker 1: that that tells a lot about you as an individual.
Speaker 1: So I want us to be more intentional about making
Speaker 1: sure that us as the brand is strong, because if
Speaker 1: we the individuals at the brand is strong, that anything
Speaker 1: we put on it's gonna be fired because you know,
Speaker 1: it's in you, it's not on you. So that brings
Speaker 1: me to my I don't get it. It's it's off
Speaker 1: topic from you know, this situation. But in the news,
Speaker 1: there was a young twelve year old boy who was
Speaker 1: killed by police officer who performed the Pitt maneuver. You know,
Speaker 1: the same maneuver that the young boy in Florida that
Speaker 1: we were working with, Stanley Davis the third was killed
Speaker 1: by and other officers and and it's been banned, And
Speaker 1: I don't and and and and it's so crazy to me.
Speaker 1: Right when I'm looking at the interaction. Right, obviously, the
Speaker 1: police pull the guy over. They said he don't have
Speaker 1: a life, he doesn't want to. He's he's constantly saying,
Speaker 1: we're just supervisor. I'm not getting out the cars late
Speaker 1: at night. He has the boy in the back seat,
Speaker 1: and he's constantly just saying, we're the supervisor. I don't
Speaker 1: have to you know, like I'm not doing any of
Speaker 1: these things until the supervisor. No camera, there's no camera on.
Speaker 1: Like he he'd scared for his life. You don't know
Speaker 1: what you guys are gonna do to him. So at
Speaker 1: that point they become our rate. He rolls up his
Speaker 1: window because they're trying to do whatever. They break the window.
Speaker 1: Now I'm thinking to myself, woman the desert, I've seen
Speaker 1: these this situation before. He takes off. Now, whether it's
Speaker 1: right or wrong, that's somebody. Some people said, why you
Speaker 1: don't just get out white Because some people are don't
Speaker 1: trust the police. Some people don't believe that their lives
Speaker 1: are not gonna be taken. Some people don't believe if
Speaker 1: they get out their car that they're gonna make it
Speaker 1: back home. That's just a reality, and I think the
Speaker 1: police should understand that. Right. So neither here nor that
Speaker 1: the guy takes off and they chase him or he
Speaker 1: does this all he doesn't drop the car, he didn't
Speaker 1: hit anybody, speed checks, speech chase. What I don't get
Speaker 1: right is how do the police officers justifying in their
Speaker 1: minds knowing that these maneuver could possibly kill somebody, right, no,
Speaker 1: knowing that because the man is in the high speech
Speaker 1: chase and he's just driving, he hasn't done anything violence anybody,
Speaker 1: He's trying to get away. How do they make up
Speaker 1: in their mind that this situation calls for me to
Speaker 1: do something that there's a strong possibility that someone could
Speaker 1: lose their life if I hit a call on the roads.
Speaker 1: There's no guarantee that it's gonna stop. More than like
Speaker 1: he could flip over, someone could actually die. I don't
Speaker 1: understand the mind state that the police have when they
Speaker 1: chase it and they and they do maneuvers like this
Speaker 1: like well, I don't even know how it got implemented
Speaker 1: into something, and it shouldn't be implemented. Only time I
Speaker 1: would say that you implement something like that when the
Speaker 1: person is on the dangerous. If somebody has been deemed
Speaker 1: on the dangerous and they're running from the police officers
Speaker 1: and you feel like it's necessary in that situation, then
Speaker 1: it's more justifiable than just a routine traffic stuff with
Speaker 1: somebody decides that they're gonna drive off. I just don't
Speaker 1: get it. I really just don't. Well, here's the bigger thing,
Speaker 1: because I heard everything you said, and I agree. Um,
Speaker 1: But what I will say is, you know, I was
Speaker 1: listening to somewhere I don't know even know I was
Speaker 1: somewhere recently, and a pastor was given a sermon and
Speaker 1: talking about responsibility levels, like who has the burden of responsibility?
Speaker 1: It was Reverend sharp Than at the funeral for for
Speaker 1: Brianna Greer and she, you know, uh was in the car.
Speaker 1: She she had a mental health issue. She I picked up.
Speaker 1: She was in a car with two officers and somehow
Speaker 1: another the door was not closed and she fell out
Speaker 1: of the car and broke her neck or or hit
Speaker 1: her head a skull, her skull, and she died. Many
Speaker 1: more details to that. Still folks are in the process of,
Speaker 1: you know, fighting for justice for her family, her father.
Speaker 1: She she left behind two little girls three years old,
Speaker 1: and just recently her father passed away, um you know,
Speaker 1: and and and certainly from a broken heart because he
Speaker 1: was out there in the heat and everything fighting for
Speaker 1: his daughter. It's just too much. But what Reverend Sharpin
Speaker 1: was talking about was the issue of accountability and where
Speaker 1: the burden lies. And I see people even in my
Speaker 1: comments when I posted about this very this very issue,
Speaker 1: who are like, well, both people are wrong because the
Speaker 1: adult drove off knowing that the child could get harmed. Right,
Speaker 1: So they're saying that, And in theoretically that is true.
Speaker 1: We can't say once you take off, you don't know
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. It might be a car dart out.
Speaker 1: Anything can happen, right, So we agree with that. But
Speaker 1: the problem is that the burden of responsibility lies within
Speaker 1: law enforcement, who are trained professionals with a weapon, who
Speaker 1: are supposed to know how to deescalate an issue. So
Speaker 1: when a man who is in his car a black man,
Speaker 1: or in a car a black man says to you,
Speaker 1: I would like to see a white shirt and I
Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable for X y Z reason. You don't
Speaker 1: have a camera on. I don't feel comfortable. I'm I
Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable, right, get the white shirt. I just
Speaker 1: want to say, what's so hard about doing it? Or
Speaker 1: or have someone come and approach who's like, sir, let's
Speaker 1: calm down, everybody calmed. In fact, let's back up, let's
Speaker 1: calm down. Keep your hands where I can see them,
Speaker 1: let's talk. Right. That is what the job requires because
Speaker 1: you have the training. You have the training, you have
Speaker 1: the gun, you have a paycheck. You are encountering people
Speaker 1: who had none of that. You're working. You actually work
Speaker 1: for the people that you encountering. That's the reality of
Speaker 1: the situation that you are servant servant for the people.
Speaker 1: You work for the people. So if if if your
Speaker 1: ego is so fragile because someone wants to see someone
Speaker 1: who's hired in you because they're they're scared, do you
Speaker 1: have to I don't think that you think how you
Speaker 1: realize how scared these people? Maybe like people, it's it's
Speaker 1: a real thing that people are losing their lives at
Speaker 1: traffic stops. So like, I don't understand why does the
Speaker 1: ego get so broken when somebody said, you know, I
Speaker 1: need to see the supervisor. Can you have a white shirt?
Speaker 1: Because I don't believe this procedures proper, and and and
Speaker 1: they get so been At that point, they want to
Speaker 1: prove to you that they have the authority that I'm
Speaker 1: in control. You don't get the act for a white
Speaker 1: shirt funk all that I'm gonna rest you. I'm breaking
Speaker 1: the win. I'm gonna do all the things necessary to
Speaker 1: show you that I'm in control of situation. And I
Speaker 1: think that's just horrible policing. I don't know what handbook
Speaker 1: they have, I don't know who's created, but I think
Speaker 1: it's the worst kind of policing that you can even
Speaker 1: think of. To constantly every put these type of officers
Speaker 1: and have whatever training that they have to go out
Speaker 1: and interact with the pedestrians and the citizens this way.
Speaker 1: It just does not make sense to me. I just
Speaker 1: don't get it. I'll never get it how these things
Speaker 1: end up with people dying, even if it's the worst thing,
Speaker 1: Like it's like me chasing myself. It's like, because if
Speaker 1: you actually care for somebody, you're not gonna kill him.
Speaker 1: I'm my son does something wrong and he runs, I'm
Speaker 1: not throwing no brick at the back of his head
Speaker 1: to stop him. I'm just not doing that right. My
Speaker 1: friend the kids, like, why don't they see it the
Speaker 1: value of the life, knowing that this right him doing
Speaker 1: could kill somebody who who's probably nothing more than scared.
Speaker 1: And if they're not scared and they have something they
Speaker 1: call their running for, we can eventually catch him. We
Speaker 1: got we got walkie talkies. We can cut them off
Speaker 1: at the road. He's gonna run out of gas eventually
Speaker 1: wherever we're gonna do. But I'm not trying to take
Speaker 1: his life. I'm not gonna do something. And I know
Speaker 1: it's a kid in a car because because I saw,
Speaker 1: I've seen, I literally see, because they have to see
Speaker 1: the cup. Because the reality situation is when you woke
Speaker 1: up on the car and they see another person, they
Speaker 1: flash that like they want to make sure that the
Speaker 1: other person not getting a weapon. They want to look
Speaker 1: they're paying attention all those things you did. You you're
Speaker 1: not gonna tell me that you just see somebody in
Speaker 1: the car and you didn't pay attention to them and
Speaker 1: you wasn't aware of And no, that's not that's not accurate,
Speaker 1: you know, so I'll just never get it. And I
Speaker 1: just and I hope these officers are held accountable. In
Speaker 1: my my, my um condolences and prayers goes out to
Speaker 1: the family of the young man who lost his life.
Speaker 1: But that said, we've come to the end of another episode.
Speaker 1: Another another episode or Street Politicians. Shout out to Joeann
Speaker 1: and Terence Wilson, the creators of Cool Creative. They are dope.
Speaker 1: Make sure that you go. They said their store is
Speaker 1: in Miami. They got the Cool Store in Miami, yep.
Speaker 1: And they have the church, the Cool Church in my
Speaker 1: merrim Merrimal. So make sure you you tap in with them,
Speaker 1: get you some gear, and then go get you some praise.
Speaker 1: At the same time, they said, they said the Holy
Speaker 1: Ghost is did the spirit, the Spirit of the Lord
Speaker 1: is at that church. So shout out to them for
Speaker 1: coming up here and brings us to the end of
Speaker 1: another episode. I'm not gonna always be right, Tamika D.
Speaker 1: Mallory is not gonna always be wrong, but we both
Speaker 1: always and I mean always, always, always be authentic. Listen
Speaker 1: to Street Politicians on the Black Effect Network on I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio and catch us every single Wednesday for the
Speaker 1: video version of Street Politicians when I Women Dot TV