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Speaker 1: cabany wamony and the cold cold snow with you. I

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Speaker 1: Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends,

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Speaker 1: I'm shook. It's memoirs, Martini. Clebrity book Club. Come read

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Speaker 1: it while it's hot. Celebrity book Club, tell your secrets.

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Speaker 1: and I care about using my small friend of the pod,

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Speaker 1: Daniel's Prime account. And it reminds me, and this is

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Speaker 1: would have reve on Thursday, Thursday, came and went, Friday,

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Speaker 1: Notebook which is crazy because I feel like when I

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Speaker 1: we were feral, like we were literally lesbians. No, it's

426
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Speaker 1: it's so girl who puts on a flannel shart. It

427
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Speaker 1: is like, I'm a total lesbian today. I look disgusting.

428
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Speaker 1: It's like girl who only puts on concealer and it's

429
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Speaker 1: just like, wow, I'm an actual tiger dead sea witch.

430
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Speaker 1: I'm a dead tiger witch and like this is my

431
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Speaker 1: wee and we three tiger witches and like, but it's

432
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Speaker 1: also so baby where she's like her and the girls

433
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Speaker 1: are always taking like cold baths together. Okay, no, like,

434
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Speaker 1: and we drink wine and smoke cigarettes. But it also

435
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Speaker 1: sounded fun and freeing and like did remind me of

436
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Speaker 1: like vacations where we take, you know, you take and

437
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Speaker 1: you're just like, yeah, I'm just like wearing this T

438
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Speaker 1: shirt and like you're not looking at your phone and

439
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Speaker 1: you're just like beached up and like it doesn't matter,

440
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Speaker 1: you are being a total lesbian. I mean, it sounded

441
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Speaker 1: so the movie Wine Country with my Ridolf and Amy Polder. Okay,

442
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: but this part when she goes, I could feel it.

443
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Speaker 1: The three of us were intensely bright, and I desire

444
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: for each other's adoration and gaze and our appetites to

445
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Speaker 1: be set free as a small roving herd again we're animals.

446
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Speaker 1: I could feel it, but I didn't want to say

447
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Speaker 1: it out loud because my friends were new friends and

448
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Speaker 1: they were younger than me. So that part, I'm like,

449
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, their new friends. Is this kind of

450
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Speaker 1: a like this felt comedian trip to me? Yes, okay.

451
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Speaker 1: It reminded me of that comedian trip that was like

452
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Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence, Amy Schumer, Nicky Glazer where it's like Nicky

453
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Speaker 1: Glazer and Jennifer Lawrence have never spoken since and like

454
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Speaker 1: what's her name? The other comedian on that trip too,

455
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Speaker 1: and then all in a pyramid and like you know,

456
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Speaker 1: just like Nicky Glazer, like maybe did send one text

457
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Speaker 1: on the group text? I like that was it. It's

458
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Speaker 1: like they definitely have not hung out since that, like

459
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Speaker 1: Total Crazy Girl's trip to the Caribbe. No. I was like, okay,

460
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Speaker 1: these are two like younger. I'm like younger, but I

461
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Speaker 1: definitely just like two or three years who were like

462
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Speaker 1: Jenny like you need to come to like whatever, Like

463
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's Ady Bryant is one of them. Oh,

464
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Speaker 1: I was getting more like Casey Wilson. Who's Casey Wilson?

465
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Speaker 1: Like those just like LA comedians who were in the

466
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Speaker 1: show Happy Endings. This is one of those shows that's

467
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Speaker 1: on for six seasons on Hulu that's about just like

468
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Speaker 1: a brunette that like you will watch and no one

469
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Speaker 1: else will. Oh yeah, I mean I haven't even watched

470
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Speaker 1: that shown. People are like cult funny show to ever happen? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: comment below with who you think this like Ferrell lesbian.

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Speaker 1: talk about this part that I actually did like and

505
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Speaker 1: I did think was horrifying, another kind of vulnerable moment. Yeah, yeah,

506
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Speaker 1: she was. I thought about how on valent one Valentine's Day,

507
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Speaker 1: an old bad boyfriend gave me his own digital camera

508
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Speaker 1: and stuck it in a sock so that I could

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Speaker 1: unwrap it. And then he went out and bought himself

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Speaker 1: a new camera and we broke up a few months later.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I've been waiting for good love

512
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Speaker 1: for a really long time, and I've been lying in

513
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Speaker 1: order to be part of something for almost forever. I

514
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: was like, toxic, fuck this guy. And I felt like

515
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Speaker 1: that was just a good observation and kind of raw

516
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Speaker 1: memory to share. That is so random. I'm just like

517
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Speaker 1: wrapping an old digital camera in a sock. Yeah, you

518
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Speaker 1: can get a new one, Psycho. Yeah, I know. I

519
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Speaker 1: mean that is like that, that's a bad as bad

520
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Speaker 1: as a gift as you can give. That's worse than

521
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Speaker 1: my infamous sheets that I got from my ex boyfriend Sheet. Sorry, sheet,

522
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Speaker 1: I love you fact checking that it was just one

523
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Speaker 1: fitted sheet. Let's I'll never forget the fact that, even

524
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Speaker 1: though we joke all the time about how that was

525
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Speaker 1: a bad present, I did also get that you defended

526
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Speaker 1: that sheet hard no. I also for Maya got her

527
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Speaker 1: that same you copied the sheet. Was it for a birthday?

528
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Speaker 1: I think it was like I was like basically just

529
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Speaker 1: at Moogie and I was like, I can give this

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Speaker 1: to her for our anniversary. One sheet Okay, But it

531
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Speaker 1: was also I think being any more just picked it

532
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Speaker 1: up because she's always being like, uh yeah, that's nice

533
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Speaker 1: if it's just it's an any time gift, and like

534
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Speaker 1: any time gifts and any time she is like a

535
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Speaker 1: great gift if you're in a long term relationship. To

536
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Speaker 1: keep things interesting and keep it spacy, keep things fresh clean.

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Speaker 1: I want to circle back to her kind of like

538
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Speaker 1: the kind of just like weirdly like denial, the sort

539
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: of like self denial that like permeates this book about her,

540
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: like wanted to be this tiny girl who like has

541
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: all these like feminine ideals, but like also just like

542
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: has this moralizing view about society. This is a little

543
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Speaker 1: section where she's giving an advice on like random stuff.

544
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Speaker 1: If there is an animal to hold and sooth or

545
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Speaker 1: just smooth the fur, do that, wash your face and hands,

546
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Speaker 1: put on an outfit of all one color, only do

547
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Speaker 1: a little gossip and make sure it doesn't make any

548
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Speaker 1: dance in any like like the only do a little gossip.

549
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: It's like you know what she is, so like yes

550
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Speaker 1: if like, well she probably want gossips a lot, yes,

551
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: but yes thinks she's like I'm being bad. So the

552
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Speaker 1: way she covers it up is just pretending she is

553
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Speaker 1: like a mouth. Yeah, and it's like I don't know

554
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: what's better. It also just feels very like just I

555
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Speaker 1: don't know, so New York Times in this way where

556
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Speaker 1: they're like five things to get you out of like winter, Yeah,

557
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Speaker 1: no plan an outfit, wear it on a Thursday, cook

558
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Speaker 1: a goods well, which is like identical to all those

559
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Speaker 1: articles that are like five things to easier anxiety as

560
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Speaker 1: we go through the election season, like turn away from

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Speaker 1: c Span, take a walk as we choose a majority

562
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Speaker 1: leader of the House, because she's just like our democracy

563
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Speaker 1: is dying. I must go to Norway for a tiny

564
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Speaker 1: tiny soup. Oh that another like tiny thing she does

565
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Speaker 1: it nor Way. That's like ridiculous as she which I

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Speaker 1: did think was funny and I feel like would be

567
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Speaker 1: funny in a Jennyous late like indie movie that I

568
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Speaker 1: see alone, which I did see Obvious Child alone at

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Speaker 1: the Quad Cinema and I saw Obvious Child. I think

570
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: I was with someone but in theaters, and I remember

571
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: liking it, like that's a good that's the one about abortion, right, Yeah,

572
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: And I was like crying alone in my seat, and yeah,

573
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: that was like as as a review might say, a

574
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Speaker 1: beautiful small movie. Yeah, it was like a small movie.

575
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Speaker 1: It's like our twenty three minute. You know, it dealt

576
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Speaker 1: with an intimate subject material in small spaces in like

577
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Speaker 1: a profound way, and she does the hour twenty kind

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Speaker 1: of dark rom com. I think, very well, Yeah, well

579
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Speaker 1: I think that's like I think that is truer to

580
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: like her, where it's just kind of like it's a

581
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: little bit more like honest and authentic, whereas like I

582
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Speaker 1: don't know, there's just I mean, I get what this

583
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: book is. It is honest in a way like it

584
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: is her in laid bare, I guess, because like she

585
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: really does want to be this mouse, but it's just

586
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: like threaded with all of this guilt. That's like kind

587
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Speaker 1: of an I guess I would in a way. I'm like,

588
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Speaker 1: I guess I respect to you for being so I

589
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Speaker 1: am mouse and not making it like just like a

590
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Speaker 1: really tiny relationship essays, Yeah that I that it is

591
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Speaker 1: kind of like getting into this fiction space right because

592
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: it's like we have that Yeah. I mean when she

593
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: really goes for like I liked that that letter, the

594
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Speaker 1: letter from her super ego or the letter to or

595
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Speaker 1: super ego, I'm like, oh, okay, we're really getting into

596
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: like conceptual here where they're like, dear miss Slate, we

597
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Speaker 1: were absolutely thrilled when roughly three years ago you got

598
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Speaker 1: your hands on an atom Phillips article in the London

599
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Speaker 1: Review of Books about self criticism and the super ego.

600
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Speaker 1: We were encouraged. And it's like her like whatever, like

601
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Speaker 1: the department, it's like telling her that they liked that

602
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: she like read these ideas but then actually didn't implement them.

603
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, this is like self aware

604
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Speaker 1: and like funny in a way where that is kind

605
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Speaker 1: of admitting that like all your concepts about like psychiatry

606
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Speaker 1: come from this one or psychology come from this one

607
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Speaker 1: article you read, which I thought was and that is

608
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Speaker 1: a cool feature. And in some of her anthropomorphizing stuff,

609
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: like I also do wonder all the time, like what

610
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Speaker 1: I would feel like if my body was covered in

611
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Speaker 1: for her, and like I'm always like, what is my

612
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Speaker 1: cat's vision? And like, wow, would you know so well?

613
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Speaker 1: You know, I think about those animal questions too. Yeah,

614
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Speaker 1: do you ever kind of think what would the world

615
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Speaker 1: look like if I was pittering pattering as a little

616
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Speaker 1: kitty cat? Why? I think I've I've said this before,

617
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Speaker 1: but I think animals in some ways are the true

618
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Speaker 1: wild animals, not domesticated animals, but wild animals are the

619
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Speaker 1: closest to being this sort of master of reality and

620
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Speaker 1: the Nietzschean sense, you know, being having true jobs. Never

621
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Speaker 1: that's new. I've never heard you say that before. Perhaps

622
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Speaker 1: you having you were wasted because we were on a

623
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Speaker 1: fabulous girl's trip in Norway having wine and then I

624
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Speaker 1: was having bath wine and you were like, Lily, don't

625
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Speaker 1: you think that foxes are the true master of their reality?

626
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Speaker 1: Like they have things like fear, and they have things

627
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: like maybe shame, like enters into it too, but they

628
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Speaker 1: don't have the same like sort of societal you know,

629
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Speaker 1: hang ups, but do you know that though, Like, don't

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Speaker 1: you think there's maybe expectations in a lion pride, there's expectations,

631
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Speaker 1: but they're not like they don't go beyond like their

632
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: anxiety is not like so future based in the way

633
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Speaker 1: that our anxiety. It's like they have fear in them,

634
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Speaker 1: like my retirement. Did I say that last night? Right, Like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't believe I said that thing

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Speaker 1: a week ago, a month ago, a year ago, like

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Speaker 1: I can't believe my post and get that many likes

638
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: like they are just like in the moment, they may

639
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: be fearful or lustful, but they expressed that immediately. You know.

640
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: They fling their shit at each other, they fuck each other,

641
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: they eat each other's as they're animals'mals, they're animals, though,

642
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: I mean, nothing actually saddens me more than when animals

643
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: get embarrassed, right, No, I mean, but it's also quite

644
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: funny if you're sick like you, I guess, Well, partly

645
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: is that you know, they don't want to appear weak

646
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: and they know, and you know, it's like that's more

647
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: innate in terms of just like the animals structure, the

648
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: don't want to be here weak to others. So I

649
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: think that's where that like embarrassment comes from, or what

650
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: we perceive, what we project as we are projecting our

651
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: ideas of embarrassment onto them, you know. And I feel

652
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: like Ultimate's house animals that get probably more embarrassed. Well, yes,

653
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: and I mean I've never been on it so far,

654
00:36:55,360 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: so I don't really know our next like girls wine

655
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: trip where we bring like needs to be so two

656
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: new friends that we like have done a couple of

657
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: comedy events together with, but that we're not really close with,

658
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: and we're like, we're all going to na maybe a um,

659
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: then we can we can really connect. I can't wait.

660
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: I cannot wait. So just to kind of to go

661
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: to the end of the book no spoilers. And this

662
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: is another part that I was like, this is at

663
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: this point I was a little like done with her,

664
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: but then she brought me back of like I mean

665
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: this she really gets to the bottom of the madness

666
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: of dating in the modern world, and she's just like

667
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: I want a boyfriend so bad, but like it's literally

668
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: so painful to have the conversations with anyone to even

669
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: get there because they're so like maddingly boring. And it's

670
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: just like her talking to like a boring guy at

671
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: her sister's wedding, um, and she like blocks out of boredness. Yeah,

672
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: and I think you know that's probably the case for

673
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: a lot of straight women. And I think, especially if

674
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: you know you are looking for a man who like

675
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: has a straight straight guy who has the right job

676
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: and the right politics, just you know, he's probably gonna

677
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: be pretty boring in a lot of contexts even to

678
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: get to find out if you will be like a

679
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: steady husband for you. Yeah. No, I mean you have

680
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 1: to put up with a lot. You've got to really

681
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: stomach it. I don't. I don't envy. I don't envy

682
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: the heatersexual women hum on this at all. I really don't.

683
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 1: And I bet, and this is the thing about toxic guys.

684
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: I bet the guy who put the digital camera in

685
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: the sock, I bet he had some fun conversation at

686
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: first at first. Yeah, And I bet he maybe I

687
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: wonder if he like it was a good lay. Hard

688
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: to say, hard does it that one doesn't seem that

689
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: seems just like randomly toxic but not even that good

690
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: in bed. Yeah, but maybe it was withholding in a

691
00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: way that was like hot or left you wanting more. Yeah,

692
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: I think it's more like emotionally withholding. I mean, she's

693
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: clearly on a good though like relationship with her ex

694
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: husband because he they made Marcella she altogether. Oh wait,

695
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: wait is that guy her ex husband, Dean Fleischer Camp. Yeah,

696
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh wow cool. Yeah, we're actually mutual is

697
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: on Twitter, which is really interesting. Yeah that's awesome. Well,

698
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: definitely he'll be he'll be really excited to hear this

699
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: episode where we trash as ex This episode is going

700
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: to ruin our wives. And on that note, let's go

701
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: to segments. Oh wait, one more thing than I just

702
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: wanted to say that I felt was very her when

703
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: she is talking about Kathleen, the woman she hired to

704
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: make her garden. I hired a woman named Kathleen to

705
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: come and make offense around my house so that I

706
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: could be safe in a self imposed pen like an

707
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: old goose or a young pig. And then use this

708
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: little chapter about how Kathleen like build her garden like

709
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: an offense. I'm like, I don't know if Kathy's lesbian

710
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: or not, but it's very It's so like a straight

711
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: girl who identifies as queer to like hire this like

712
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: labor to build your garden to like basically like outsource

713
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: your cottage core fantasy because it's like, ultimately, cottacore fantasy

714
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: is always about outsourcing and it is about being Marie

715
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: Antoinette and being like I'm wearing a linen dress and

716
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: a field that someone else is like mowing, and I'm

717
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm frolicking, and then someone else is like milking a

718
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: cow and then bringing me a jug of milk, so

719
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: I can be like, hey, milk to cow. No, we

720
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: will get more into segments, but her, the way she

721
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: describes her own la house that is like absolutely covered

722
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: in like so many citrus trees, is so insane and

723
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: she's just being like it's also a very comedian where

724
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: you can tell like her day. It's like when is

725
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: the day starting, where she's like, I wake up, I

726
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: make coffee, I pick lemons and fruits for about seven hours.

727
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: Then I make then I chop the grapefruit. Then I

728
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: make really strong coffee, and I pet my old dog

729
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: and then I sit and then I go to my

730
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: job in a flashbag, and then I write a letter

731
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: of apology to myself an old parchment. Hey glove kids.

732
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: This week on the vip Lounge, we're talking about you

733
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: Guessed it, Nantucket, bluff, drama and restaurants, lesbians, etc. My

734
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: mother sends the article. It just goes so bad. I

735
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: mean she must be popping a bottle of dom tonight.

736
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: Subscribe on patreon dot com slush CBC the Pod to

737
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: get more content like that every single week for only

738
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: five dollars a month, little tiny segments. How does she live?

739
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: What does she eat? What does she wear? What does

740
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: she wear? Like cardigans and like vintage skirts, Yeah, like

741
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: vic like little dresses and brats. But she's also to

742
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: me wearing bringing back to vineyard stuff like huge faded

743
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: tea dovel t shirt that's like a woman's like a

744
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: bodybuilder's body. Yeah, she's fun. I mean she is like fun.

745
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: She's fun, She's funky and like she's indie richeal master SUTs.

746
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: So she is being us and going to savers and

747
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: like getting fine sas, like she's having like her big

748
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: Daddy's like vineyard sweatshirt. And she's also being still say

749
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: it with me eighties win breaker. Yeah, she is the

750
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: like being her are the biggest eighty sticks. Yeah, Like

751
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: she's absolutely wimmer. I guess I wonder if she is

752
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: being a little bit more like hack like yeah, oh well,

753
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, because she is so Louis my

754
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: Elcott and like and she is into like more, does

755
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: she have a knap dress? I don't think she seems

756
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: more little indie dressed to me versus like big puffy cotton.

757
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: But she is she actually being more like because she

758
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: is a celebrity, is she being like a lot of

759
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: like layered acne sweaters and like more kind of like

760
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: earth toned. Like she has like a like a dark

761
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: Prota skirt like that she is wearing with like so

762
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: many sweaters and like a button down and tights and

763
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: beans like I'm a layered cozy Whiney's Gibson Girl Fox flopper. Yes,

764
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: so she had I think, yeah, she has expensive pieces

765
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: that like she like is like oop spot at like yeah,

766
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: just like I feel like a store into like oops. Yeah.

767
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: Two thousand and she is getting styled for the Red

768
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: Carpet every now and then, like and is keeping the

769
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: dress from like RhoD Arc today. I think it's that

770
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: more just being so like I felt so pretty in this.

771
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: I felt really pretty in RhoD Art. Yeah, and it

772
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: is like thanking her stylist for like turning her on

773
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: to acne. Yeah, and she was just like I never

774
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: thought that like a little meat flesh any little honeybee

775
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: sack like me could go to a big, fancy, designer,

776
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: grown up adulty store like Acne, but somehow they had

777
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: things that fit my tiny little bee frame buspos And

778
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: then she also has like grandma panties, her nasty wine

779
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: stained grandma. Do you think this is what does she where?

780
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: Do you? I? Do you think she's defa cup or

781
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: tampon as someone who's really familiar, someone who's really familiar

782
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: with the differences. I guess I just don't think that

783
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: she's like going to the hassle of like no. I

784
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, she, I feel like she

785
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: wants to, but I don't think she is not actually

786
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: also just beyond birth control that like if you a period, yeah,

787
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: and like, isn't it so like she's like that girl

788
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: who's very like, oh yeah, like my period is she

789
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: just like half a day? To me? She actually feels

790
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: heavy flow and is talking about it like my flashbag

791
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: is bleeding everywhere, okay, and that's what is amazing about

792
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: being a woman, right, Yeah. I just feel like she's

793
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: as more normal tampon or birth control because it's like,

794
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: isn't diva cup? More like what's the girl who is

795
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: from trans Parent? Who lives in Hudson that we know

796
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: kind of Oh she is Diva Cup. Yeah, she's Gabby

797
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: Gaby Hoffman Hoffman, Yes, because she is actually like more

798
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: Hudson and not in La and likes a little more

799
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: actually kind of wildly. Yeah, Gabby Hoffman is just like

800
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: the actually a little bit crunchyer customer version of Denny

801
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: Clayton this way where she's probably composting every weekend, like

802
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: have hands, where I think Jenny slay just has like

803
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: Myer lemonries no hands hashtag no hands, no hands. You

804
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: know you have no hands? Okay, so how does she live?

805
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: No hands? No no hands? I mean, so she describes

806
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: her house like a lot that it's like in just

807
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: like little weird ways that it's like, I mean, I

808
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: can really imagine it's like cute little it's succulents and

809
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: it's plants and it's the sunny Chile. Yeah, I'm sure

810
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: it's like literally so fucking cute. And I actually don't

811
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: even think her house is as tweet as she writes

812
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: this book. No, that's the thing. I don't think it's

813
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: like little owl paintings everywhere, like I think there is

814
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: like from an estate like an old thrift store, like

815
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: a paint and oil painting of the sea, and like

816
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: something from her parents' house and like her grandma's mirror. Yeah,

817
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: and there's maybe like one framed fern, but it's not

818
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: like Fern Central, Like there's not so many little like

819
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: old eyeglasses like one. It's not just like Ben Franklin's

820
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: office preserved. And I think that like there are there's

821
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: like you know, modern art prints that are leaning. She's

822
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: doing leaning well. So her husband is like a landscape

823
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: painter historian. He's a historian of landscape painters. Yeah, that specific,

824
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: but that's cool. Yes, I'd I'd love to get a

825
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: tour of the American Wing at the Mat from him.

826
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'd have a lot to say. It's very

827
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: straight man to be like I'm gonna study, yes, landscape paintings. No,

828
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: no people for me. I was making fun of anyone

829
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: who has like a job, like not you having an

830
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: interest that you dedicate your career too, that you literally

831
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: study day and night. She owns just like a one

832
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: point eight million dollar house, right, that's like in go Park, Yeah,

833
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: Siver Lake that she bought what was that show? She

834
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: probably bought that with that House of Cards money. She

835
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: was not in House of Cards, wasn't she? No, Kate

836
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: Mara was in House of Cards? Is that? Are you

837
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: thinking of Rooney Mara's sister who I saw Dimes Market

838
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: when I worked there, Kate Kate Mara. Yeah, she bought

839
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: water and she was like looking for so long, I'm

840
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: gonna settle on water. Can be hard to pull the

841
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: trigger in there. Well, it's like wigwater ya, Okay? What

842
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: does she eat? She's a ravenous woman of them of midnight.

843
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: You know. She likes to feast on chicken and pheasant

844
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: and bird and Brussels sprouts and root vegetables and Yenny

845
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: salads and like kitchen girl, though like I don't think,

846
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: like she does have dinner and like the two hot dogs,

847
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Speaker 1: but like her favorite meal is being this bird opening

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Speaker 1: a jar of jam and eating the entire thing. I meant,

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Speaker 1: because ultimately she is so Cambridge mom, and like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do wonder how Cambridge her kitchen is, Like is

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Speaker 1: it like the that natural peanut butter that's separating? Is it?

852
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Speaker 1: Or is it? No, she's um because Gabby Hoffman's doing

853
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Speaker 1: the separated. She's separated. But I think Jay slide is

854
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: just Justin's It's like, oh, yes, natural, but it's not.

855
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Speaker 1: It's not too separate. It's not like gross care earthberries

856
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: like separated oily ass like yeah, no peanut butter. And

857
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: she's just like is yes, roamaning and is like getting

858
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: a dead bird and putting her dead mire lemons on

859
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: it and like caperberries and we eat the dead bird

860
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: and the dead bird is delicious, and me revel with

861
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: our friends of your and we think this is what

862
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: life is beautiful for, and we thank the Earth for

863
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: her many gifts. It's a hot dog thing, right when

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Speaker 1: she orders the children's menu in Norway's because she sees

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00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: a Norwegian woman casually and a hot dog. Right, She's

866
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: so chic, but she's like, I know, as an American woman,

867
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Speaker 1: I can't do that. I did love how In her

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Speaker 1: one of her many like childlike anthemomorphizing, she says that

869
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: a deer is like an eighties businesswoman, yeah, which I do,

870
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Speaker 1: which I do love, because like, deer are kind of

871
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: just like big but fragile in this way and they

872
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: are just like so like running like to the always running,

873
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: like always running and heels and bag and being so

874
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: like receptionist, but like making their way up the ladder. Oh.

875
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: The other thing about how she lives, so she was

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Speaker 1: like her stance on TV's is like she puts her

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00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: TV in like a straw cabinet because it's like a

878
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: wicker wicker gross to see your TV, which and that

879
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 1: is why I think it is kind of mid century

880
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: and that's kind of more Chica lay way where it's

881
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: like it's a cool wicker cabinet and there is like

882
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: the mid century low couch and it's oh. She does

883
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: mention it like it's you have to really be at

884
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: but she has just been like there's an old bench

885
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: made by a Danish man in the sixties, and you're like, okay,

886
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: so it's like a mid century bench. Yeah, it's like

887
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: a six thousand dollar NOL bench. I agree with her

888
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: that TVs are ugly, like there's a huge black square.

889
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: It's there's not much you can do about it. But

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00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: that's why I liked. Yeah, I would do a whicker

891
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: or a red Tirn comin and if I had one,

892
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, I think if I had

893
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: my fantasy, I would have a full conversation pit hanging

894
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: living room and then I would have like my celebrity TV, right.

895
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: I like the way that instead of sunk in, you

896
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: said hanging. Oh I met like hanging out. Like yeah,

897
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 1: I would have my sunken where like it's hanging couches

898
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: facing there's no TV hanging. And then there's this other

899
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: room that's like super heavy carpet, massive polar bear um

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00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: like heated sectional with like the hugest TV and it's

901
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: like a separate TV room. Okay, yeah, I mean that's

902
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: fab So you just have like your big massive man

903
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: cave Kardashian theater that's like and then you have your

904
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: fabulous conversation right where the TV doesn't have to be seen. Darling, Yeah,

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00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: one day I live in a fu um. Okay, who

906
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: are you in the book? I mean, am I the

907
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: eighties businesswoman? Dear? You're her when you're like when she

908
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: says I'm a frenchwoman and I'm like, and I think

909
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: I want to be covered in butter and eaten by

910
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: a hot man on vacation, I'm Jenny Slate. When she's

911
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: like looking at people at the airport and being like

912
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 1: that's so cool. Like the way you just like got

913
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: chips is like so Norwegian amazing, and that's like going

914
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: to define my style for the rest of the year, right,

915
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: because you're being so like takes, triple take strips ones

916
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: like I love people watching. Um all right, I give

917
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: this book. Oh don't I know at first time it

918
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: was like god one, but I'm not, you know, in

919
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 1: the back got tons of good reviews from Vanity Fair

920
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: to Mindy Kaling too. I mean, obviously people are obsessed

921
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: with this book at Shooting Fishing Mirale because they're like, oh,

922
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: this is like an Yeah, that's a concept and it's

923
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: like intellectual but hilarious. We're supporting a woman. Um, I

924
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: don't you know for the concept. I'm gonna give her

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00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: a two point five, two point nine for some of

926
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: the vulnerability. But it's just like the little the little

927
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: things and little weirds and the tweets because I'm just like,

928
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: you are funnier than this book, I person believe. Really,

929
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: just I wouldn't tell anyone to read this book. I'll

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00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: say that, No, I wholeheartedly agree. Yeah, I'm struggling with

931
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: it because I appreciate that she didn't do a like

932
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 1: here's my book of like anecdotal essays or whatever, you know,

933
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: just like any random comedian cash up just being like

934
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: so then, which is always just like the first time

935
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: I got my period at camp. Yeah, and it's just

936
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: like and I had a boyfriend and like then I

937
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: got broken up with Swans in my late twenties. Yeah,

938
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: one time a guy came over and he hadn't taken

939
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: a shower. Um, and just like totally bad dating stories.

940
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: Like I appreciate that it's not that, so maybe three

941
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 1: points for that, but I hate that she has leaned

942
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: in so much to how cringe this is and it's

943
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 1: truly uncomfortable to read. But then there's some vulnerable parts

944
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: that I do appreciate and like resonated with me. So

945
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm swirling around a three. Yeah, we're circling the two

946
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: point nine three area. And again I'll say this, I

947
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: do love Jennius Late and thinks she's by that and

948
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: like no, I no blad blood, Like she is a

949
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: genius and like on some levels she knows this book

950
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: is absolutely insane, absolutely Like that's why she does the

951
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: baby voice, because she like knows it's she's making fun

952
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: of people who do baby voice, right, It's like, yeah,

953
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: make fun of what you are, you know, so yeah,

954
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean publicity to wow and just watch every publicity scat.

955
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: It's like one of It's one of the most genius

956
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: like pieces of social commentary in the twenty first century.

957
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: Best Library of Congress like a series of s. Yeah, um, anyway,

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Speaker 1: we done next and I'm gonna go back at my

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