1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 2: Welcome in Happy Friday. 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 3: I hope all of you are having a fantastic start 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 3: to your weekend and we hopefully will make that a 6 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 3: little bit better over the next three hours. 7 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 8 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: We have got a lot of interesting stories to dive 9 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 3: in with you. We certainly want to thank all of 10 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 3: our veterans out there that are listening. We will have 11 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: special veterans related activities and events that will be taking 12 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: place during the course of today's program, and so we 13 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: thank you right off the top. The news that we 14 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: broke yesterday of Joe Manchin not running for re election 15 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: in West Virginia has continued to reverberate throughout. 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: The political landscape. 17 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 3: We will not only think about what the impact of 18 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: Joe Manchin not running in West Virginia is going to be, 19 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: but also what that means for. 20 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: The Senate map and what that could mean for. 21 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: Joe Manchin as he explores potentially running as a no 22 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: labels candidate as a third party. Jill Stein, many of 23 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 3: you will remember Jill Stein, formerly of the Green Party, 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 3: still of the Green party. I guess they kept her 25 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: off the ballot for twenty twenty. She may well have 26 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: cost Hillary in twenty sixteen the election in many close states. 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: She's now going to be running back on the ballot. Theoretically, 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: we'll see whether she can make it on in any 29 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: contested states. It's starting to look like everyone's presidential ballot 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: is going to have maybe more options than we have 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: seen in most of our lives. We'll talk about that, 32 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 3: but Buck I wanted to start. We talked earlier this 33 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: week about the New York Times Swing State Pole, which 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 3: showed that Trump was up in five of the six 35 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: swing states that the New York Times polled, and Wisconsin 36 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: was the only one that Biden was winning and it 37 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: was very close. There now is another pole that is 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: out from a totally different place, Bloomber and the Morning Consult, 39 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: I believe is where that is the overlap. And what 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: is intriguing here is guess what it's showing almost the 41 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: exact same results. Joe Biden reacted to that. I'll play 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: that for you in a moment. But here is that 43 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: poll result. Georgia Trump is up seven, Arizona Trump is 44 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: up four. This is according to Bloomberg Morning Consult Pennsylvania, 45 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: Trump is up three, Nevada, Trump is up three. Wisconsin, 46 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: they have Trump up one, North Carolina, they have Trump 47 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: up nine. Michigan they have dead. Even So in those 48 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: seven states, according to Bloomberg and The Morning Consult Buck 49 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 3: right now, Joe Biden is not leading in any of them. 50 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: The best result he has is dead, even in Michigan. 51 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 3: I'm gonna play Biden in a moment, but I want 52 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 3: to let you react to this. Is it fair to say, 53 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: based on Bloomberg Now and The New York Times, I 54 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: think two outlets that you would say are not predisposed 55 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: to be favorable towards Trump that at this moment in time, 56 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: as we sit here a little bit less than a 57 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: year from the twenty twenty four election, Joe Biden is 58 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: in really difficult shape and all these swing states, and 59 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: if the election were today, Trump would have a very 60 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: good chance of winning. 61 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 4: So here are the takeaways that I have from at Clay, 62 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: given where we are in the timeline, because all this 63 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 4: is prefaced with the elections a year out, and a 64 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 4: year is an eternity in politics, and we all know that, right, 65 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: But why does it really matter? Why is it really 66 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: catch a lot of attention right now that the polls 67 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: show what they show even at this early juncture, right, 68 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: I think, on the one hand, it is the strongest 69 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 4: proof we have to date that not only have the 70 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 4: indictments against Donald Trump strengthened him with the Republican base, 71 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: there seems to be an even broader revulsion from the 72 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: American people against this. 73 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: Right He's he's. 74 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 4: Getting numbers beyond just the Trump base, if he's crushing 75 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: Biden in swing states, that's right, That's so. That is 76 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: one I think really important data point that the that 77 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 4: the poll show us right now. The other really important 78 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 4: takeaway that you can have from this, or that at 79 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: least is worthy of discussion, is what we talk about 80 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: and have been talking about frequently, which is, are Democrats 81 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 4: hitting the panic button on Biden as the nominee? 82 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: And if so, what does that mean? What do they do? 83 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 4: This is I think a somewhat fluid situation, meaning I 84 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: still believe although now I'm sweating a little bit on 85 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 4: this one, but I still think I still think it 86 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: will be Biden. But I do believe that there are 87 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 4: enough prominent Democrats out there who are concerned that they're 88 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 4: probably considering options and thinking what is the break the 89 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 4: glass plan here? Like, if we really have to figure 90 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 4: some than out, what is the plan be? 91 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 5: Now? 92 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: I still believe there is a constitutionally mandated plan b 93 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 4: in a sense or I mandated too strong a word, 94 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: but offered with the vice president taking over Kamala Harris. 95 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 4: They obviously don't like that very much, although I believe 96 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 4: she does a little better than Biden. And polling recently, 97 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 4: am I wrong in thinking that the. 98 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: New York Times everybody did better than Biden? Which is 99 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 3: really undercutting the argument of only Joe Biden can be Trump. 100 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: It's actually the case, according to some of the New 101 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: York Times data, that that's not true at all. 102 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: And and so so the going back to the first point, 103 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 4: the strategy of Trump is going to lose because they're indicting. 104 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: Him so many times. 105 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: I don't know if that is going to I don't 106 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 4: know if that's going to work with the Democrats wanted to. 107 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 4: There was that poll that showed a huge change in 108 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 4: the Swing States if Trump is convicted. 109 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: I just do exist. Yeah, yeah, I don't buy that either. 110 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 4: So that that's really it hinges on these two whether 111 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 4: You've got these two massive questions that this surgeon really bad, 112 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 4: bad data for Biden. Did we play his clip his 113 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 4: response yet or no we have no, Peter Doucy asked him. 114 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: All right, listen to that. 115 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, why do you think it is that you're trailing 116 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: Trump and all these swing state polls because you. 117 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 6: Don't read the polls. I'll forget their ten poles, eight 118 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 6: of them. I'm beating him in those states, eight of them. 119 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 6: You guys only do two CNN and New York Times. 120 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 6: Check it out, check it out. We'll get the copy 121 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 6: of all those that polls. 122 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: I'd love to see that copy of the polls that 123 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 3: they're giving Joe Biden. But again, the Bloomberg Pole and 124 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: the New York Times poll have almost identical results. And 125 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 3: listen to this buck. This is also from the Bloomberg Pole. 126 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 3: Swing state voters. Who do you trust on the economy? 127 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: Trump plus sixteen? Who do you trust on immigration? Trump 128 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: plus eighteen? Who do you trust on the stock market? 129 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 3: Trump plus twenty? Who do you trust on prices? Trump 130 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: plus nineteen. And I'm about to hit you with some 131 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 3: that surprise me. Who do you trust on taxes? Trump 132 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: plus thirteen? Cost of everyday goods Trump plus fourteen, interest 133 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: rates Trump plus sixteen. Okay, those are all big double 134 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 3: digit they trust Trump. Here's what would make me a 135 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 3: little nervous. Also, if I'm Biden. Who do you trust 136 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: on democracy? Swing state voters? 137 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: Biden plus three only plus three? Buck? 138 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: Another one here, another one here? Who do you trust 139 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: on abortion? Biden plus four one more? Who do you 140 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: trust on labor and unions? Trump plus one? Like these 141 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: are if Biden's only going to be a little bit 142 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: up on abortion and a little bit up on democracy, 143 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: buck in these swing states, he has no chance to win. 144 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 4: So the democracy poll number there really steps out to me, 145 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 4: because here's what I think is going on. They've had 146 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 4: this whole narrative of January sixth, Trump is a threat 147 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: to democracy, you know, the insurrection, all this stuff, And 148 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 4: there was some residents that I think we saw with 149 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 4: that narrative in twenty twenty two with some of the 150 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 4: Trump supported candidates. Some people disagree with that analysis, that's fine, whatever, 151 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 4: but it certainly was what the Democrats thought. I mean, 152 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 4: they were supporting even with dollars some of the more 153 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 4: maga candidates in some close elections. But here's what's happened 154 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 4: since then, the people that have been lecturing everybody about democracy, 155 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: who are also the people who are lecturing us all 156 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 4: about Russia collusion, which they were all wrong on, But 157 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: now they've been lecturing us about the threat to democracy, 158 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 4: and they have Joe Biden's DOJ covering up for Hunter, 159 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 4: which we've all seen it's very obvious, while at the 160 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: same time launching four I mean, I know it's only 161 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: two of them are federal, but the system, you could say, 162 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 4: the Democrat system launching four criminal indictments against Donald Trump 163 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: with ninety one total counts that theoretically would send him 164 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 4: to prison for the rest of his life if he 165 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 4: was convicted in any of these cases. Yes, I think 166 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: people look at that and they say, you're not allowed 167 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 4: to lecturius about democracy anymore. I think some people see 168 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 4: this and there's a bit of a pushback. There's a 169 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 4: bit of Hold on a second. You're the ones who 170 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 4: are weaponizing the justice system against a political candidate. What 171 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 4: could be a more obvious political question than who should 172 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 4: be the president of the United States? Meaning what could 173 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 4: be the more clear answer? Then let the people decide, 174 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 4: Let the people vote. These efforts Clay to knock him 175 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: off the ballot in some of the states they just failed. 176 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 4: And what was it, Minnesota? 177 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 7: Was it? 178 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 4: That's right, Minnesota? That Minnesota said no, sorry, you can't 179 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 4: kick Trump off the ballot. But they're trying to abuse 180 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 4: the system in every way possible against Trump while they 181 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: say they're saving the system. Some people obviously buy into that, 182 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 4: but I think some people don't, and they're people that 183 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 4: Democrats need to vote for them. 184 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: I think people can simultaneously believe that January sixth was 185 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: a threat. They can buy the Democrat argument. Who are 186 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: swing voters I'm talking about, not most of you that 187 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 3: are out there listening to us, that it wasn't you know, 188 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: we know it wasn't an insurrection or the most deadly danger. 189 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 4: Riots are bad, Breaking federal property is bad, Hitting police 190 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 4: is bad. 191 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: Yes, you should be prosecuted when you, and regardless of 192 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: your politics, engage in violent behavior. So I think most 193 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: people who are listening to us agree with that. But 194 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 3: you can simultaneously have bought that argument on some level, 195 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 3: but then also believe that what Democrats are doing is 196 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: as bad or I think a lot of them believe 197 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: far worse. And so if Biden's only up three on democracy, 198 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: and if he's only up four, these are swing state 199 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: polls from Bloomberg. And if he's only up four on abortion, 200 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: I don't think he has anything else to run on. 201 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: Buck. 202 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: The only thing he can run on is abortion and democracy. 203 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: I think that's it. 204 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: And if that those allegations aren't resonating against Trump, And 205 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: I do think I think Trump is protected on the 206 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 3: abortion level argument on some level because he's never been 207 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: a zealous abortion focused politician. Right, He's been a border guy, 208 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 3: he's been an economy guy. Obviously, he appointed the justices 209 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: that overturn Roe v. Wade, but his position has been, hey, 210 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 3: we put it back to the states. I don't think 211 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: you're going to see Donald Trump run aggressively on an 212 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: abortion related political calculus. And if it doesn't work on democracy, 213 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 3: what arguments does Joe Biden have. He doesn't have the border, 214 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: he doesn't have crime, he doesn't have inflation, he doesn't 215 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 3: have a roaring stock market, he doesn't have Yeah, I 216 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: can't even point to peace. 217 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: We got war in the Middle East and war in Europe. 218 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: The only thing I think he can run on Buck 219 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: is democracy and abortion, and it's not resonating in the 220 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: in the swing states. 221 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 4: This is where I would I would put out the 222 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: word of caution. It's not resonating yet. They haven't run 223 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 4: the play and the campaigns and the you know, the 224 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 4: huge amounts of money and the TV ads and the 225 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: lies and the misrepresentations. Right that's I think those numbers 226 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 4: will be able to move in Democrats favor the ones 227 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 4: abortion and democracy threats or whatever it was. But the 228 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 4: fact that they're so close right now, irrespective of how 229 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 4: aggressive the Biden campaign is going to be, is I 230 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: think a troubling indicator for their electoral prospects and an 231 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 4: encouraging indicator for Donald Trump. I mean, if you had 232 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 4: asked me before I saw that pull, you know, on 233 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 4: the issue of threat like you know, democracy or whatever, 234 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 4: I would think it would be Biden plus twenty just 235 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 4: because of all the rhetoric about it around it. 236 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 3: You know, I was stunned when I saw it too. 237 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: But to me, the Biden people have to and again 238 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 3: this is bloomberg. This is seven swing states. Trump is 239 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 3: winning six of them, tied in one of them. If 240 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: I'm the Biden team, and I think they're seeing this 241 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: buck because they spent twenty five million dollars already on 242 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: swing state advertisements. 243 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: Despite what Joe. 244 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: Biden said, when he's like, oh, well, the polls that 245 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: I see are good. You know, when you're in the 246 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: White House, I think a lot of times they give 247 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: you the polls that they think look good for you. 248 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: The fact that New York Times Bloomberg have almost identical 249 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: results suggests to me that these are not outlier indict 250 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: indicators and that Biden is in real trouble. 251 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 4: How much trouble enough that they're thinking about something else. 252 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 4: That's what everyone's asking right now. I get all these 253 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 4: people that are saying, how are you feeling about your prediction, 254 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 4: mister bucket, I say, I'm dug into my trench. I'm 255 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 4: not moving an inch, and we'll see. I'll take whatever 256 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 4: whatever comes my way. 257 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: Come back. 258 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 3: What do you think about my theory that there is 259 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 3: a secret conversation behind the scenes that could be going 260 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: on and they're just trying to avoid undercutting Biden in 261 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: the last year of his presidency. 262 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: I will I will address I will address your theory. 263 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: We want to hear what you think. 264 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 4: Eight hundred two eight two two eight h two Are 265 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 4: we seeing the polls the right way? 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I can't 286 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 4: say it's good news because it hasn't happened, but it's 287 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 4: encouraging moves probably given all the factors at work, and 288 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 4: it has to do with the Senate map. Going forward 289 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 4: into twenty twenty four, it looks like things are on 290 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 4: the upswing for Republicans. Let me give you some of 291 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: what we've got here. There are seven Democratic Senate seats 292 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 4: that are up in twenty twenty four in states that 293 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 4: Trump has at least one time in the last two elections. 294 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: One Democrat seats are up in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, 295 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 4: and Montana. Now all those states, with the exception of Montana, 296 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: are critical swing states. I mean Arizona, I think people 297 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: assume this time will go read whatever you think about 298 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 4: what happened last time. I'm just saying people think that 299 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 4: Arizona probably is going to be good to go. But Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, 300 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 4: Pennsylvania those I'm sorry, Well, Ohio is also probably gonna 301 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 4: go red. But Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin critical critical states. And 302 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 4: you've got Democrats who are going to be defending there. 303 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 4: When you add to that the announced retirement of Joe 304 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: Manchin from the Senate, at least I shouldn't they retirement 305 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: were the not running. It's kind of like a retirement, 306 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: the not running for reelection. And I sent this to Clay. 307 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: I thought this was this well played. The NRSC chairman 308 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 4: Steve Danes put out this statement when Mansion announced he 309 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: was not running again. Quote, we like our odds in 310 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: West Virginia. 311 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: End quote. 312 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure they do. Trump won by like forty 313 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 4: or something in West Virginia thirty nine I think to 314 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 4: be exact, but yeah, it was. 315 00:16:59,680 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: It was. 316 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 4: There's a solid Trump victory in West Virginia. This has 317 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: got some of the Democrats have been on the concern side. 318 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 4: Clay here is and this is cut twelve, CNN's number 319 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 4: crunching guy, on how it's looking in terms of Senate 320 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 4: control in twenty twenty four. 321 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: Play. 322 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 8: We have a slew of these Democratic seats in these 323 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 8: states that Trump won at least one time. 324 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 2: Compare that to. 325 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 8: The Republican side. Do you know how many GOP seats 326 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 8: are up in twenty twenty four that Trump lost at 327 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 8: least once? 328 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 2: Zero a grand total of zero. 329 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 8: So Democrats have far more vulnerable ground than Republicans do. 330 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 8: Pretty much all the Republican seats are in safe Republican areas. 331 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 8: So the fact is, going into twenty twenty four, I'd 332 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 8: much rather be a Republican running for Senate than a Democrat, 333 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 8: or at least put my money on them gaining the majority. 334 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 4: He's saying that it looks like Republicans are in a 335 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 4: good spot. 336 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: Manchiin. 337 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: We can talk about the third party situation here and 338 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 4: no labels if you want play in a moment. But 339 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 4: Manchin stepping iss in West Virginia means very likely you'll 340 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 4: have a Republican senator winning there. And now this raises 341 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 4: the prospect because all along I've been sending people, Look, 342 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 4: it'd be one thing if you have a Republican and 343 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 4: very possibly Trump as president in twenty twenty four, but 344 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 4: if they have a divided Congress, the big stuff that 345 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 4: we want to get done is very It's just not 346 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 4: going to happen, right, The big stuff's not going to happen. 347 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: But I think like you could have Republican control on 348 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: both sides. Yeah. 349 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: I think I've said on the show for a couple 350 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: of months that if you looked at the map, I 351 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: was actually more optimistic of Republicans winning the Senate than 352 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 3: I was holding the House because remember in the House, 353 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: there are eighteen Republicans representing districts won by Joe Biden 354 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, so those are going to be tough 355 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: seats to maintain in twenty twenty four. And I think 356 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: you just have to look at the map and be rational. 357 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 3: And when I showed this yesterday, a bunch of people 358 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: were like, there's. 359 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: No way this is gonna ever happen. 360 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: Like there's so much defeatism out there. Again, just look 361 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: at the map. Republicans are gonna win in West Virginia. 362 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: That makes it fifty to fifty, right, that's a flip. 363 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: Then you look Ohio and Montana, as you mentioned Buck, 364 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: if you look at gambling markets right now, Republicans are 365 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 3: favored to win both of those states then, and you 366 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: only need one to take control of the Senate. Regardless 367 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 3: of who wins the twenty twenty four race. I don't 368 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: see any states that are currently represented by Republicans in 369 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: the Senate that are likely to flip. And then Democrats 370 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 3: also have to run the table in competitive races in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, 371 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: and Nevada, all of which if you look right now, 372 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 3: are races that will likely be decided by two three 373 00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: four points. Republicans can certainly not win, but the probabilities 374 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 3: would be substantial that Republicans should take control of the 375 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 3: Senate in twenty twenty four. Now, we could have eliminated 376 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: this doubt completely by winning in Pennsylvania, Georgia, or Nevada 377 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, which were all three winnable elections 378 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: that Republicans managed to lose. 379 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 2: But this is a big deal. 380 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: Joe Manchin not running basically guarantees fifty to fifty and 381 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: if you win the presidency, then you have the tiebreak vote. 382 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: That we know because Kamalas had the tie break vote 383 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: for some of the tenure of Joe Biden in office 384 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 3: as well. Now here's the also big part of Joe Manchin. 385 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: He had an editorial in the Wall Street Journal this morning. 386 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: Buck he put out the video yesterday right as we 387 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 3: were about to finish. He's basically going to go around 388 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: and see whether there is an appetite for him to 389 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 3: be this no labels representative. There's even some talk you've 390 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 3: seen this that he and Mitt Romney could be on 391 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 3: a ticket together. 392 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: I have seen this. 393 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 3: My take on that and I'm curious what your take 394 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: would be is that that would be very good for 395 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 3: Trump and very bad for Joe Biden, because I don't 396 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 3: think there's that many Republicans out there that have fond 397 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 3: memories of Mitt Romney and would be willing to vote 398 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 3: for him. I think there's more people who would be willing. 399 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: You disagree. 400 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 4: It's probably an issue in it wouldn't it wouldn't be 401 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 4: helpful in Arizona, wouldn't be helpful in I don't know. 402 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 4: I wonder how that would play out in place like Michigan. 403 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I'd have to think a little more 404 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 4: about how how they would get because remember we're also 405 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 4: looking at probably a well RFK Junior says he's running 406 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 4: third party. If No Labels also has a third party, 407 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 4: I guess it would be fourth party, right. 408 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 3: Oh, I think we're going to have I think a 409 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 3: lot of people out there, Buck are going to have 410 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 3: like six people on their ticket because you got Cornell West. 411 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: We'll see whether or not he can get on. 412 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: You got RFK Junior, You've got Jill Stein now in 413 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 3: the Green Party saying she's running. The Libertarians are going 414 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 3: to put somebody out there. I haven't heard exactly who 415 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 3: their candidate's going to be, no labels. I believe Buck 416 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 3: has already gotten access to fifteen different state ballots. That's 417 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: the one that could have Mansion or Romney. And that's 418 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: before we even get to Biden and Trump. So there 419 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 3: are going to be, in other words, a lot of 420 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: protest candidate options for many people out there when you 421 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: walk in to cast your vote. If Joe Manchin ran 422 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: as the presidential contender, I think that would be disastrous 423 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 3: for Joe Biden. 424 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: I don't think Joe Biden would win if. 425 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 3: They put Mitt Romney on as the president and then 426 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: they put Joe Manchin as the vice president. 427 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 2: I don't. 428 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 3: My indication is that would be worse for Biden than 429 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 3: it would be for Trump, because I think Democrats are 430 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 3: less committed. But what it points to is we would 431 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: be in a situation where there's so much uncertainty it 432 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 3: would be really hard to handicap it with six or 433 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 3: seven different people on a president. 434 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: Well. 435 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 4: This is why also the polls, and I do think 436 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: it's fair to say that we're so far in advance 437 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 4: that polls about who will be president that doesn't really 438 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 4: tell us very much as I've said, it's more an 439 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 4: indicator of how people are reacting to the indictments against 440 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 4: Trump and how people are viewing Joe Biden at this 441 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 4: phase and time, and the possibility of replacing him. Oh 442 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 4: to that end, Joe Scarborough, this is cut eleven. I 443 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 4: think you're going to start to hear more of this, 444 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 4: which is, as it gets closer and assuming Trump stays 445 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: out with this big lead, you're going to hear people 446 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 4: like Joe Scarborough saying you should contrast Biden and Trump 447 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 4: and somehow that nullifies Biden being too old. 448 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: Frail and feeble. Play eleven. I'll tell you what I 449 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: would do. 450 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 9: I show a picture of Donald Trump golfing, and I say, 451 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 9: you guys are talking about health, you're talking about age. 452 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 9: You take it head on, you joke about it like 453 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 9: he did last night. I was fantastic. Somebody falls down. 454 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 9: He's like, it's not me, you know, he walks around, 455 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 9: starts joking about it. You always go straight into it. 456 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 9: And then you look at the other guy and you're like, 457 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 9: you guys are talking about He thinks he's running against 458 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 9: Barack Obama. He's like a drugged out rock star. 459 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: He's like digit Detroit. 460 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 9: And he's actually in Scranton, like he doesn't know where 461 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 9: he is. He's got to go to it. 462 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: He's got to. 463 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 9: Run to it and joke about it and evidence like 464 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 9: he did yesterday. 465 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: Fuck, we just had the president on. I think we're 466 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 3: in the ninety nine point nine percentile of where you 467 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: and I of where Trump is mentally. The guy walked 468 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: off of playing golf, said he shot at seventy two, 469 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: set down in his golf polo zero prep in terms 470 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: of what we were going to ask him, no demands 471 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: of you can't say this, you can't say that. Sits 472 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 3: down with Us, does a full hour, meets our wives, 473 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: jokes around with everybody who's in the room during commercial breaks, 474 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: gets up, goes to South Florida, does a rally in 475 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 3: front of tens of thousands of people. You cannot like Trump. 476 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 3: Joe Biden couldn't do one of those three things in 477 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 3: any given day, much less all three eighteen holes of golf. 478 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: It's eighty five degrees out, come right in, Sit Down 479 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: with Us, do an hour of a radio and then 480 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: go to South Florida and do a rally where he 481 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: talks in front of tens of thousands of people. Do 482 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: you think Joe Biden could do any one of those 483 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 3: three things in a day, much less all three boom 484 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 3: boom boom, Of course not. 485 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 4: I don't think that there will be a lot of 486 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 4: success in running the Trump is so old too, just 487 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 4: like Biden's strategy. I just think that they have very 488 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 4: few options and they can't entirely not address it. So 489 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 4: that's going to be the best that they can come 490 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 4: up with. But it's one thing. It's one thing to 491 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 4: have the possibility of a Trump presidency hangover Democrats, but 492 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 4: a Trump presidency that would have a United Congress, oh yeah, 493 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 4: which seems like it is a Again, I do not 494 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 4: celebrate early. Celebrating early is one of my mantras that 495 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 4: you I mean meaning don't celebrate early is one of 496 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 4: my mantras. 497 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: Don't do it. But they're worried about that. 498 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 4: And by the way, here's Donald Trump as we're talking 499 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 4: about him, indicating how he might use the federal government 500 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 4: if in fact he wins. 501 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 2: This is cut one play it. 502 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 7: What they've done is they've released the genie out of 503 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 7: the box. You understand that they've done something that nobody 504 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 7: thought would happen. They've taken a president who was very popular. 505 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 7: I got seventy five million votes. Much more than that. 506 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 7: I believe no president's ever gotten that many votes. 507 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: You can't do that. 508 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 7: You can't go after people. You know, when you're president 509 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 7: and you've done a good job and you're popular, you 510 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 7: don't go after them so you can win an election. 511 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 7: They've done indictments in order to win an election. They 512 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 7: call it weaponization, and the people aren't going to stand 513 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 7: for it. But yeah, they have done something that. How 514 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 7: was the next party? I mean if somebody if I 515 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 7: happened to be president and I see somebody who's doing 516 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 7: well and beating me very badly, I say, go down 517 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 7: and indict them. Mostly what that would be you know, 518 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 7: they would be out of business, they'd be out, they'd 519 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 7: be out of the election. 520 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're very concerned about this possibility. 521 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: I can assure you of that. 522 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 3: I do have some fun thinking about how many mostly 523 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 3: peaceful protests there would be if Trump won election in 524 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 3: November of twenty twenty four, because they think in twenty 525 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: twenty that they killed the political career of their great Satan. 526 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 3: For all that talk about January sixth, can you imagine 527 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 3: how many riots we might well see in November of 528 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four if Trump were elected and Biden were defeated, 529 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 3: or you know, any Democrat in the event that they 530 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: don't put forward Biden. 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Yesterday was the grand opening 560 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 4: of the Tunnel to Towers Houston Veterans Village, a fully 561 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 4: converted one hundred and sixty one room hotel that will 562 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 4: provide permanent and transitional housing as well as services to 563 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 4: more than one hundred homeless veterans from Houston and surrounding areas. Frank, 564 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 4: thanks so much for being with us, and thank you 565 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 4: for all the work you. 566 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 10: Do well, thanks for having me on today, and yeah, 567 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 10: it was. It was spectacular. We had over thousand people 568 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 10: show up because you know, the community has really vested 569 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 10: into what we're doing. And you know, Dennis Quaid and Andy 570 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 10: Pettitt were there and they're both you know, from Houston, 571 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 10: so they and they've been very much involved with us 572 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 10: at the Foundation, so they were there to show their 573 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 10: support and it was a beautiful day. But most importantly, 574 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 10: we got over you know, one hundred homeless veterans into 575 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 10: these permanent housing for most of them and some transitional 576 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 10: for the younger guys because we want them to transition 577 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 10: out back into society. So it was a beautiful day, 578 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 10: no doubt. 579 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: Frank, I appreciate you coming on with us. The amount 580 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 3: of work you guys are doing is incredible, and I 581 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 3: know you've got so many different projects that you're working 582 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 3: on right now. But I had the good fortune to 583 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 3: be with you at Liberty National and one of the 584 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 3: things that you're focused on now is trying to really 585 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 3: go after homelessness in the veteran community. For people who 586 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 3: may not have heard about what you're doing in that arena, 587 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 3: explain what you're kind and what you guys have been 588 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 3: capable of achieving already and where you can go from here. 589 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 10: Okay, well, we're so proud of it, and you're right. 590 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 10: So I want everyone your listeners to know, because I'm 591 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 10: sure many of them already do the eleven dollars a month, 592 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 10: you know, to make sure that we take care of 593 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 10: all the catastrophical engined service members and first responders and 594 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 10: gold Star that families that have someone dies in line 595 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 10: of duty that leave young families behind. So and to 596 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 10: prove was still doing that, we paid off fifty mortgages 597 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 10: or built delivered fifty mortgage free homes today today for 598 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 10: a Veterans Day. So I want people to know that 599 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 10: we're fully committed. We're never not going to do that. 600 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 10: Every five fight, every cop, every first respond to, every 601 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 10: gold Star family that you know, have young families died 602 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 10: in the line of duty, We're going to take care 603 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 10: of them forever. And that includes the catastrophically injured with 604 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 10: the smart homes. So that is why we did fifty 605 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 10: houses today. That being said, there is tremendous homeless problem 606 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 10: amongst our veterans and it's just unacceptable. You know that 607 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 10: on the battlefield our men and women in uniform would 608 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 10: never leave anyone behind. So why is it that they 609 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 10: come back into the States and we're leaving them on 610 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 10: the street. It's disgusting, it's disturbing, and it's just not right. 611 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 10: So we you know, we've been watching it for years, 612 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 10: and we've been talking about it for years to do it, 613 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 10: and now we are you know, started over the last 614 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 10: year plus and we're proud to say that this year alone, 615 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 10: think about this, this year alone, three thousand homeless veterans 616 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 10: into their own residents, and we get them to wrap 617 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 10: around comprehensive services they need. And so what does that mean? 618 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 10: Comprehensive services because we know we just can't put a 619 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 10: roof over the head because at one point they did 620 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 10: have a roof over the head and they and they 621 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 10: weren't able to assimilate back into society. So we get 622 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 10: them employment assistance, job training benefits, assistance because a lot 623 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 10: of them get benefits and it could use them for 624 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 10: you know, for their rents and and and and other things. 625 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 10: Educational assistance get the back you know, some of them 626 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 10: back at school. The a certain amount of credits away 627 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 10: from college and and you know, get to get them 628 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 10: in a place where they could get a better get 629 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 10: a job or a better job, and financial budget management, 630 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 10: legal advocacy, medical care access. They don't even know what 631 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 10: they have. A lot of these guys, well they don't 632 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 10: have the help that needs them to get to the 633 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 10: point where they could get everything that they need medically 634 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,479 Speaker 10: and of course mental health support and counseling, uh not 635 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 10: only for PTSD, for addiction and for other things. And 636 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 10: there's a lot of mental illness, but it all mainly 637 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 10: comes from PTSD, as we well know because of what 638 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 10: they did, you know, serving our country. So we have 639 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 10: these on site. So this village that we have in 640 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 10: use in its state of the art, so we have 641 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 10: a we have like three flaws. The first floor is 642 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 10: all these services that I just mentioned. We have them 643 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 10: on site on site and and we're close to pretty 644 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 10: close to a VA center to take them to get 645 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 10: them all the you know uh uh you know, benefits 646 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 10: and assistance that they need, medical care that they need, 647 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 10: and and it's just a beautiful way to get them 648 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 10: back into society. So they have their own apartment. It 649 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 10: has a kitchen, it has a bathroom, it has a bedroom, 650 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 10: and their own TV. It gives them back some respect, 651 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 10: you know, and dignity and hope into their lives. And 652 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 10: we hope to give them back their lives. So we're 653 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 10: not only doing that, we're building these five hundred square 654 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 10: foot what I call comfort homes and give these great 655 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 10: heroes back some comfort. And these are mainly for the older, 656 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 10: let's say, Vietnam War veterans that had been on the 657 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 10: street for god knows how long, and it's and we're 658 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 10: we're putting them in these villages so they have we 659 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 10: have these you know, uh renovated hotels and now in 660 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 10: the parking lot in the joining area we have in Euston. 661 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 10: We're doing approximately twenty of these comfort homes and creating 662 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 10: a village with a common area and people can grill 663 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 10: and people, you know, it's a great place for people 664 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 10: to heal together. They were crying yesterday, these veterans that 665 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 10: were moving in. They were crying. They said, you don't 666 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 10: know what we've been living in. You don't know the 667 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 10: cockroach infested and rat infested and the kind of what 668 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 10: they were living on the street. It was disgusting. And 669 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 10: they're in and they're crying. They said, oh my god, 670 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 10: I can't believe it. And so many people care. They've 671 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 10: got hope and dignity back, and I tell you it 672 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 10: was just it was just a beautiful day. 673 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 4: We're talking to Frank Stiller. Tunnel Towers, an amazing organization 674 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 4: that we're very proud to be partnered with here on 675 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 4: this show. Frank, you did the Houston Veterans Village event yesterday. 676 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 4: Just give us a sense of what some of your 677 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 4: plans are going forward into the end of the year 678 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 4: here and for next year to help our veterans and 679 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 4: keep our sacred vow to support our veterans, and what 680 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 4: T TWOT is going to be up to. 681 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 10: Well, we're doing this all over the United States. We're 682 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 10: buying different hotels. We everone in Atlanta, Detroit, and we 683 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 10: just got a big piece of property in Pennsylvania, Florida. 684 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 10: We just land being donated to us in Florida to 685 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 10: build these type of ground up facility. But it's all 686 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 10: over the United States. A lot of it is veterans 687 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 10: are because you know, it's it's said to say it's 688 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 10: easier than to survive in a warmer climate than a 689 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 10: colder climate. But we have a national case management network. 690 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 10: So let's just say, for instance, I don't have a village. 691 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 10: I can't have a village everywhere in the United States. 692 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 10: You know. Will I have fifty of them? 693 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 3: Yeah? 694 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 10: Will I have one hundred of them? Absolutely? Will I 695 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 10: have two hundred and fifty, no doubt about it. But 696 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 10: I won't have five thousand of them. And there's homeless 697 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 10: veterans all over. So I have a national case management 698 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 10: and we work with the v eight And when we 699 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 10: find out about a homeless veteran and sometimes been on 700 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 10: the street, well, you know, they they only really want 701 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 10: a chronic homeless person to be you know, described as 702 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 10: a homeless person out there for six over six months. 703 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 10: It's say a year or two years before they really 704 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 10: can get the help. But we'll take somebody that's on 705 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 10: the street that they might not qualify as a homeless 706 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 10: person with our national case management network. Let's sake, for 707 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 10: three months they're out there, you go on the street 708 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 10: for three months, you're homeless for us. I'm concerned. And 709 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 10: we could get them into their own apartment right away, 710 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 10: work through the VA, help them get a voucher and 711 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 10: you know the v A, you know through HUD subsidized subs, 712 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 10: you know, through HUD and and the VA system h 713 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 10: to get them into an apartment, and yes they put 714 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 10: some money towards it, but we want them to and 715 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 10: once again we want them to assimilate back into society. 716 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 10: But we have our case managers. This is a beautiful 717 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 10: part about Tunnels to Talents. Employees from Tunnel to Towers 718 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 10: professionals work with these great heroes to make sure they're 719 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 10: getting everything that they have to get to once again 720 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 10: assimilate back into society. I'm not just putting a roof 721 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 10: over the head. It's not enough. It's not enough. It's 722 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 10: the way it used to be done. Some other great 723 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 10: organizations have been working very hard on it for years. 724 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 10: I tip my hat to them. But this is the 725 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 10: way that it has to be done, and we are 726 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 10: going where to eradicate it. I should say your listeners 727 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 10: and Fox are going to eradicate it because these are 728 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 10: the ones that are donating eleven dollars a month. Once 729 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 10: you know, you go to t twot dot org eleven 730 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 10: dollars a month. It's incredible when you have, you know, 731 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 10: a million people come together, how much that is per month, 732 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 10: and we make sure that we take care of these 733 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 10: great heroes. 734 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 2: Frank, you're doing great work. I will see you in 735 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 2: Nashville next week. 736 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 3: I know we're going to help do some more events there, 737 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 3: but there are a lot of people out there who 738 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 3: are veterans as we get ready for Veterans Day and 739 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 3: need to help. You can check it out at T 740 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 3: two dot org. Frank, see you next week, my man. 741 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 10: I'll see you next week. Come us. 742 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 3: That's Frank Sillery does incredible work. You just heard all 743 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 3: about what he's doing, and as many of you know, 744 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 3: foundation was launched in the memory of Frank's brother, firefighter 745 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 3: Steven Stiller, who bravely ran through the tunnel on nine 746 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 3: to eleven as many were running in the opposite way, 747 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 3: went on to the towers to try to save lives, 748 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 3: sacrificing his own life in the process. As we see 749 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 3: what's happening on college campuses around our country, students protesting Israel, 750 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 3: it's more important than ever for the next generation to 751 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 3: be educated about nine to eleven, and that's why the 752 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 3: Tunnel of the Towers nine to eleven Institute was launched 753 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 3: help educate kids kindergarten through twelfth grade about our nation's 754 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 3: darkest day. It's been twenty two years. A lot of 755 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 3: kids in college have no idea what happened on nine to eleven. 756 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 3: It's why young kids out there need to be educated 757 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 3: about what happened on that day. 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Help our 764 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 3: nation honor its vow on this weekend that we will 765 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 3: remember the sacrifices of our veterans and help Tunnel the 766 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 3: Towers carry forward on their mission. Donate eleven dollars a 767 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 3: month to Tunnel the Towers at T two t dot org. 768 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 3: That's t the number two t dot org. 769 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 2: Heard it on the shelf here. 770 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: More on the podcast Clay and Buck podcast, Deep Dives, 771 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 1: more contents, more common sense. 772 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 2: Find the guys on the iHeart app. 773 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: Or wherever you get your podcasts. 774 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 775 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 3: of you hanging out with us as we are rolling 776 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 3: through the Friday edition of the program, and there are 777 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 3: a lot of topics out there as we continue to 778 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,720 Speaker 3: break down the Vake versus Nikki Hayley battle, Joe Manchin 779 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 3: not running and what that means for the overall Senate 780 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 3: picture and everything associated with that very favorite you know, 781 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 3: for people out there who say, Okay, I don't know 782 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 3: why you're talking about the polls. Four years ago, at 783 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 3: this exact time, Joe Biden was running ten points above 784 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 3: Trump in swing state polls. Just for people out there 785 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 3: to kind of contemplate, again, we're a year out from 786 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 3: the actual election right now. Sorry, that's not swing state polls. 787 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 3: That is nationwide pole Trump is up one point right 788 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 3: now and all of the polls that are out there 789 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 3: four years ago, at this exact time, this is according 790 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 3: to Interactive Polls, real Real Clear Politics polling average, Biden 791 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 3: was up ten points and right now, based on the polls, 792 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 3: Trump would post over three hundred electoral college numbers there 793 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 3: three ZHO one to two thirty five. So this would 794 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 3: not be a close election right now if the polls 795 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 3: are accurate, and I will point out the polls have 796 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 3: been accurate for this past year election day, the one 797 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 3: that just happened on Tuesday. All of the favorites won. 798 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 3: There were no real shocking outcomes. It was super close 799 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 3: in Virginia and Kentucky. Daniel Cameron lost Mississippi Tate Reeves one. 800 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 3: There was the abortion issue, which looked like it was 801 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 3: going to be a major problem in Ohio for pro 802 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 3: life advocates and in Pennsylvania Supreme Court race. So all 803 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 3: of those things were reflected in what we anticipated was 804 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 3: going to happen there. I believe now Buck, we are 805 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 3: joined by as we get close to Veterans Day. Vince Vargas, 806 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 3: former US Border Patrol agent. His book Borderline Defending the 807 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 3: Home Front, has an inside at the US Mexican border 808 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 3: through the eyes of a former US Border Patrol agent 809 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 3: who also served in Iraq and Afghanistan. Vince, I'm sure 810 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 3: you're seeing and hearing all of the discussion about fentanyl 811 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 3: coming across our southern border and the impact it's having 812 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 3: in the country. If you were given the opportunity to 813 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 3: address this issue, what is the best way to try 814 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 3: to make the border more secure and also stop the 815 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 3: flow of illegal drugs through our country? What should happen, 816 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 3: what would work based on your experience. 817 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 5: That's a loaded question, complex as it comes, but it's 818 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 5: multiple different layers. 819 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 3: Right. 820 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 5: We are incentivizing a lot of the illegal immigration that 821 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 5: comes across, and so when you do that, it causes 822 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 5: mass influx, which actually makes it harder to stop things 823 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 5: like drug smuggling because the inundated agents on a border 824 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 5: don't have enough personnel to cover everything. On top of that, 825 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 5: you know it's Chinese kind of coming across. It's been 826 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 5: proven to come across up through the Southern border and 827 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 5: through the cartels, who even the cartels themselves are not 828 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 5: happy about at the moment, but they're still making money 829 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 5: off it. And so very complex question comes down to 830 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 5: just securing our borders, having more personnel on the borders, 831 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 5: having more support systems on the borders as well as 832 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 5: you know this, this whole thing with with the illegal 833 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 5: immigration of bodies just creates more chaos down there, so 834 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 5: it's harder to manage. 835 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,439 Speaker 2: Vinceit'z buck. 836 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 4: Thanks for being with us and appreciate your service with 837 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 4: the Army seventy fifth Ranger Regiment in Iraq and Afghanistan. 838 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 4: As we're looking at Veterans day here tomorrow. You might 839 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 4: have heard in the debate, and it's come up actually 840 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 4: before as well as some of these candidates, the idea 841 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 4: of using US military special forces to go after the cartels, 842 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 4: cartel leadership and you know, the most violent arms of 843 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 4: the cartels in Mexico. What do you think about that 844 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 4: as somebody who's been both on the border patrol side 845 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 4: and a part of special operations. 846 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's an interesting take on the whole thing. When 847 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 5: I hear that, it's a little confusing and not sure 848 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 5: how i'd want to address it, to be honest with 849 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 5: you know, Mexico is a counterpart of ours. Obviously we 850 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 5: share a border together. I'm always curious to why Mexico 851 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 5: doesn't take a stronger stance, but as well as in 852 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 5: like deterring the cartel, but I also know the corruption 853 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 5: and what happens when someone does stand up against the cartel. 854 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 5: You know, they're easily just taken out or killed and 855 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 5: then someone else has to take that place. And so 856 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 5: for having us do the work or at least military 857 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 5: uh moving into that space, I think it could be effective. Yes, 858 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 5: I get My concern is I don't think so much 859 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 5: on the military only mindset anymore. Being the fact that 860 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 5: I've worked on the border and understanding that mission, there's 861 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 5: also the humanitarian side of the whole border side that 862 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,720 Speaker 5: becomes a question, and so I think, you know, whatever 863 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 5: means necessary takes to control the smuggling side of the 864 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 5: world would be what we should look at. Using special operations. 865 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 5: Obviously they get the job done. It comes down to 866 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 5: is the country of Mexico really interested in US being 867 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 5: a part of that and wanting to support and help them, 868 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,760 Speaker 5: or is it just kind of you know, lip service 869 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 5: when saying that. And so that's really my whole thought 870 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 5: positive of keeping the relationship between US and Mexico in 871 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,280 Speaker 5: a good standing so it doesn't cause further issues because 872 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 5: they are a neighboring country of ours, and I think 873 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,720 Speaker 5: keeping that relationship is super valuable important. 874 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 3: We're talking to Vince Varga's former US Border Patrol agent 875 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 3: soldier as well. Book is Borderline Defending the Home Front, 876 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 3: An inside look at the US Mexico border. Given what's 877 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 3: going on with the resurgence of terrorism in the Middle 878 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 3: East and how wide open our southern border is, how 879 00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 3: concerned are you about some of these terror groups sneaking 880 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,919 Speaker 3: people across our southern border in order to do terror 881 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 3: attacks here in the United States. Based on your experience 882 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 3: as a border patrol agent, you think that's likely to happen. 883 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 3: Do you think that is happening, and how much of 884 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 3: a concern would it be for you. 885 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I've lived on both sides of this 886 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 5: kind of conversation and is very, very fascinating. Because of 887 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 5: my experience in the military, I always have known that 888 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 5: there are people that come from the that are smoggling 889 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 5: in through the southern border UH, that are connections to 890 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 5: Iraq and Afghanistan. So that's that's something that is known, 891 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 5: and so I've always had that in the back of 892 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 5: my mind. The concern is with the massive influx of 893 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 5: illegal immigration that happens and the lack of really documenting 894 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 5: or knowing who is coming across UH definitely raised the question. 895 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 5: We know it's a weak point, they know it's a 896 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 5: weak point, and so they're definitely using it as a 897 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 5: means of entering people who probably should not be in 898 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 5: our country. That doesn't that doesn't mean that some of 899 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 5: the people, you know, some of the people come across 900 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 5: or or have good intentions they're just doing it wrong. 901 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 5: But there is small pockets of those individuals who are 902 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 5: coming that definitely have ties in connections to pairs organizations. 903 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 5: That's proven. There's some that we have caught already, and 904 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 5: so that's concerned. 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