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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal ull that for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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<v Speaker 1>for a day? Edith State is that? Woo woo?

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<v Speaker 2>And Dan and Tie, welcome back to the solid verbal

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<v Speaker 2>boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildenbrandt, joining me

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<v Speaker 2>as always, yet still way over there in sunny southern

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<v Speaker 2>California amid the June gloom. His name is Dan Rubinstein, Sir,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you you know? Ty?

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<v Speaker 1>It is sunny outside right now in California, sunny as ever,

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<v Speaker 1>but inside in this literal closet that I am still

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<v Speaker 1>the Claw office is still where I'm recording on the

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<v Speaker 1>news feed in front of me, I'm seeing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that June gloom. Tie, Can you give me I

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<v Speaker 1>forget who sings it? Can you tell me something good

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm really I'm needing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, it wouldn't be about college football, nor about

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<v Speaker 2>a Corona virus, right, nor about a lot of what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on out there in the world. We do have

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<v Speaker 2>some news tidbits that we're going to go through, as

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<v Speaker 2>we've been doing at the top of each and every episode,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess the good thing that I would say

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<v Speaker 2>is that we're we're going to assume, for the purposes

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<v Speaker 2>of today's concept, that there is going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>college football season, and we got a fun game that

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to play.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm excited about that. Ty. Not only do we

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<v Speaker 1>have a fun game that we're going to play. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this is just a tease, but I did something that

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't done in literal days. I took a shower WHOA,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do some of my best thinking during those showers,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I came up with a really for

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<v Speaker 1>me interesting way to frame how we evaluate what we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to evaluate in this game. That's a tease. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do how's housekeeping and news first, but you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>want to stick around.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know what form this is all gonna take on,

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<v Speaker 2>because there remains a pretty open question, which I'll get

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<v Speaker 2>four seeable future.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan, Yeah, that's the plan. Boo boo boo boop.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this may not be a news bullet per se,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would just add that the news over the

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<v Speaker 2>last seven to ten days, at least as it relates

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<v Speaker 2>to a college football season, has definitely taken on a

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<v Speaker 2>different feel. We have been going for a while with

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<v Speaker 2>this mindset that we're confident there's going to be a season.

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<v Speaker 2>We're confident there's going to be something. I think to

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<v Speaker 2>a large extent, we still are confident there will be something,

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<v Speaker 2>but the mood. Is it fair to say the mood

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<v Speaker 2>has shifted from a more optimistic tone to what we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen lately, which is certainly more pessimistic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know pessimistic. I guess is sort of

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<v Speaker 1>in the eye of the beholder, you know, on twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four to seven Sports, which I suppose is part of

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<v Speaker 1>this show based on the rubric we're going to work

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<v Speaker 1>off of for the main segment. But do you know

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<v Speaker 1>you're familiar with the crystal ball. Of course, they have

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<v Speaker 1>the experts, you know, say okay, I'm going to giving

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<v Speaker 1>a crystal ball for this school. Sometimes there will be

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<v Speaker 1>a prospect, as for my understanding, where they're just they're

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<v Speaker 1>not sure. They just they want to put something in

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<v Speaker 1>and they're not sure, and it says cloudy. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>go as far as putting a crystal ball in for

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of dramatic canceled situation, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>squarely cloudy. Ty It is cloudy, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was thinking about this in the build up

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<v Speaker 2>to the show as I was getting ready. But and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's my favorite quote of all times from

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Tyson, the one about everyone having a plan until

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<v Speaker 2>they get punched in the mouth. And I think it

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<v Speaker 2>applies here because look, we all expected that players would

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<v Speaker 2>be testing positive and as an abstract concept, we discussed it,

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<v Speaker 2>we accepted it to some extent. We were I guess

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<v Speaker 2>okay with talking about it, but now that it's here,

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<v Speaker 2>that optimism about a season happening at all has really

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<v Speaker 2>taken that turn over the last week to ten days

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<v Speaker 2>or so. It's just it feels different now that it's here,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where we're going to start with this new cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty three Clemson players testing positive. That mayor of Clemson

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<v Speaker 2>is saying that there's an elevated amount of virus in

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<v Speaker 2>the wastewater, which we've come to learn is one way

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<v Speaker 2>they can predict where it did. See that, Yeah, outbreaks

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<v Speaker 2>and hotspots are going to occur. Next they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do more down there at Clemson to control the spread

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<v Speaker 2>of the virus. But twenty three student athletes testing positive.

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<v Speaker 2>At LSU, we've got thirty players in quarantine. It says

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<v Speaker 2>at least thirty of LSU's one hundred and fifteen players

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<v Speaker 2>have been isolated because they tested positive for COVID nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>or were found to have had contact with those who

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<v Speaker 2>tested positive. Thankfully, no athlete or a staff member has

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<v Speaker 2>required hospitalization. Most of the symptoms are mild, but still

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<v Speaker 2>thirty is an awfully big number. Then at k State,

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<v Speaker 2>as of Friday, fourteen student athletes tested positive for active

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<v Speaker 2>COVID nineteen, following testing of more than one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty athletes. The school said that those who have tested

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<v Speaker 2>positive are being medically managed according to current guidelines. So

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<v Speaker 2>how do we digest how do we react to that news? Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>does it change how you feel about the prospects for

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<v Speaker 2>a season in twenty twenty?

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<v Speaker 1>Not especially. I think all of these schools came into

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<v Speaker 1>the scenario thinking we're going to have positive tests. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to have rules in place. We need to have

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<v Speaker 1>procedures in place to quarantine, to isolate, to trace, and

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how we're going to act swiftly and safely.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, ed Orgron talked about this at LSU

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<v Speaker 1>that this was an expectation. Now that those numbers are scary.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to tell you they're not scary, just

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<v Speaker 1>because it is an indicator of just how easily something

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<v Speaker 1>like this can spread. We just so, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you saw what happened in Croatia with Novak Djokovic,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, and the tennis players there. To be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>there was video of all of them dancing in a

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<v Speaker 1>club together without taking any sort of precautions. So I

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<v Speaker 1>know there have been some time to a nightclub, I

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<v Speaker 1>think in Baton Rouge, but I really do think that

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<v Speaker 1>this was an expectation. The thing that's scary is we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the short, medium, and long term effects

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<v Speaker 1>are even for players who are asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic.

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<v Speaker 1>That sure, you're not hospitalized, but if you have more

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<v Speaker 1>and more trouble breathing, it's harder to become an elite

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<v Speaker 1>athlete at LSU clems in Kansas State, Texas wherever. So

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<v Speaker 1>that to me is the problem where even if they're

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<v Speaker 1>not in the ICU, if there are thirty seven players

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<v Speaker 1>who are not feeling well enough to suit up, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult to play a major college football game.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine midway through the season something like this

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<v Speaker 2>coming down. Let's say Alabama is in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>a title run and suddenly twenty of their players need

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<v Speaker 2>to be in quarantine for two weeks, maybe the last

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks of the year, when they've got some big

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<v Speaker 2>action on the schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that any school has offered a magic number. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's to me is the interesting thing. And I saw

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<v Speaker 1>some people tweeting about, well, we were seeing all this,

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<v Speaker 1>all this attention being given to college foall programs and

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing. What are schools themselves doing. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>some schools come, you know, out now. We've seen some

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<v Speaker 1>scheduling changes at places like South Carolina. I know Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame has been very clear about how they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>organize things for students and campuses. But we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>for the majority of the time on this show, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about huge, huge universities with tons of people on

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<v Speaker 1>quads and in lecture halls. Notre Dame is a small school.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going to happen at Washington, at Michigan, pennst at

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<v Speaker 1>Penn State. And I'm you know, everybody knows about your

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<v Speaker 1>time in college and just how many people you came across, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and just the indelible mark you left on the student population.

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<v Speaker 1>But these are huge, huge campuses. What is the plan

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<v Speaker 1>at these places? It's still June, but you know when

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<v Speaker 1>you see some of the dominoes across different sports that

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<v Speaker 1>tennis players are not coming into contact with each other,

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<v Speaker 1>golfers are not coming into contact with each other, basketball

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<v Speaker 1>players are not coming into contact with each other because

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<v Speaker 1>there's just so many more football players on a field

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<v Speaker 1>at any given time, it's hard not to be worried.

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<v Speaker 2>While to that end, thirty UCLA players have demanded protections

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<v Speaker 2>I read to you from the La Times. The document,

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<v Speaker 2>reviewed by the La Times late Thursday, asserts that players

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<v Speaker 2>do not trust UCLA to act in their best interest,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in regard to their health, a realm where it

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<v Speaker 2>says the school has quote perpetually failed US citing neglected

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<v Speaker 2>and mismanaged injury cases. The document does not provide example.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is thirty UCLA players getting behind a document.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of their demands are a third party health official

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<v Speaker 2>being on hand for all football activities to see that

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<v Speaker 2>protocols for virus prevention are being followed, that anonymous whistleblower

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<v Speaker 2>protections are provided for athletes and staff to report violations,

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<v Speaker 2>and that each player can make a decision about whether

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<v Speaker 2>to come back to Westwood without fear of losing his

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<v Speaker 2>scholarship or other retaliation.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan. Yeah, And there was a clarification that I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was important because the way it was worded when it

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<v Speaker 1>came out was they don't trust Chip Kelly's program with

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<v Speaker 1>it almost seemed like the words Chip and Kelly were

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<v Speaker 1>in bold and underlined and italicized, when in fact it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a way to define the program. And Dorian

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson Robinson, the UCLA starting quarterback, came out and said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about Chip specifically, it's about where the UCLA

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<v Speaker 1>program is right now, and certainly Chip is the figurehead

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<v Speaker 1>and he's the you know, the buck stops with him.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were very clear that it was just a

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<v Speaker 1>general fear and they issued that statement. It seems maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I got this wrong. I hope I don't have it wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems that UCLA they hadn't really met with each

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<v Speaker 1>other about the protocol and plans, and that they were

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<v Speaker 1>planning on introducing a third party, non UCLA medical professor

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<v Speaker 1>at the scene of testing and care. So hopefully everything

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<v Speaker 1>is on the same page at UCLI. Because it's scary stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one hundred percent scary stuff. And I don't blame

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<v Speaker 1>the players at all for banding together and saying this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we want if we're going to go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and take risks more so than usual, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>playing games for what seems to be the sole purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of money and entertainment. Because if it weren't a money

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<v Speaker 1>and entertainment thing, maybe this season would be postponed a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Final news tidbit here much different. Note this is breaking

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<v Speaker 2>on Twitter per Anna Maria Trulo. We just saw this

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<v Speaker 2>before we hit record. West Virginia football assistant defensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 2>Vic Kaneig placed on administrative leave following allegations of insensitive

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<v Speaker 2>comments regarding race and religion. So certainly more to come

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<v Speaker 2>on that one, but late breaking news here right before

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<v Speaker 2>we hit the record buttoned.

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<v Speaker 1>In Yeah, I have not read anything yet by certainly

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<v Speaker 1>West Virginia and vac caning a name that's been around

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<v Speaker 1>a long long time. So I guess read up if

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening right now, and hope hope, because it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things. It's not as bad. The truth

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<v Speaker 1>is not as bad because that's that's pretty ugly if true.

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<v Speaker 2>Where shall we go next? Do you want to get

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<v Speaker 2>to our game?

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to get to our game? Tie? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that the people's core music? It is we are the

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<v Speaker 1>people and this is all. Explain this to me? What

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<v Speaker 1>is going on here? So from nineteen eighty one to

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety three, Tie, this was the theme song. So

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<v Speaker 1>what we're doing is a couple of weeks ago, our

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<v Speaker 1>pal Bud Elliott now at two four seven twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>seven Sports, came out with his twenty twenty blue Chip Ratio,

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<v Speaker 1>And quite simply, the blue chip ratio is what percentage

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<v Speaker 1>of your team is made up via scholarship offer, not transfer,

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<v Speaker 1>not walk ons of four and five star players, Because,

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<v Speaker 1>as he's found, national champions are exclusively made up of

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<v Speaker 1>teams with the blue chip ratio of at least fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>At least half of your team was a four or

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<v Speaker 1>five star according to the twenty four to seven Composite rating.

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<v Speaker 1>And so there are fifteen teams in twenty twenty whose

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<v Speaker 1>rosters fall in line with at least fifty percent being

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<v Speaker 1>a blue chip athlete coming out of high school. And

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<v Speaker 1>what we're going to do is we're going to pair

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<v Speaker 1>these teams, these fifteen teams in a sort of bracket

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<v Speaker 1>style like in the NCAA tournament, the one seed plays

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<v Speaker 1>against the sixteen seed, right, so we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>draft pairs. So the fifteen seed in this case is

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<v Speaker 1>Texas A and M. They are exactly at fifty percent,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas Alabama is it at eighty three percent. So Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>has the highest percentage of blue chip, Texas A and

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<v Speaker 1>M at exactly fifty the lowest percentage of blue chips

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<v Speaker 1>of these blue chip ratio teams. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go back and forth and draft pairings of these teams

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<v Speaker 1>with the blue chip ratio of at least fifty percent,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to hope for one of the teams

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<v Speaker 1>in our pairings, we're going to hope that they win

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<v Speaker 1>the national championship. So you have to be strategic tie

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not just about drafting Ohio State, because perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>a pairing of Clemson and Michigan is a better combination

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<v Speaker 1>odds wise, or Ohio State and Washington is a better

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<v Speaker 1>combination odds wise than say Georgia USC or Alabama, Texas

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<v Speaker 1>A and M.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what I don't like about this game. What I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like about this game is we've paired up one

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<v Speaker 2>in fifteen and as we do the bracket thing the

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<v Speaker 2>whole way through, we're left with Florida. Yeah, without a

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<v Speaker 2>dance partner, Florida's the eighth seed. Now, typically typically I

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<v Speaker 2>would give them the nine seed, right correct, I'm giving

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<v Speaker 2>them a wild card and I'm giving them two teams.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's and you can ask your question now, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, typically Alabama would get that wild card, but

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<v Speaker 2>we've chosen to run our own bracket pool a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit differently here correct, And we've also named some of

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<v Speaker 2>these pairings, and so it made more sense to stick

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<v Speaker 2>Florida with both Florida State and Miami and refer to

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<v Speaker 2>that trio as Florida men, correct, Florida men. So here's

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<v Speaker 2>what we got. Here's how our pairings are are shaping up.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got the free do you want it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Of course I wanted the whole show.

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<v Speaker 2>We just looped Alabama and A and M the so

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<v Speaker 2>called Francioni Farm that's correct, Georgia and USC the Jarvis

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<v Speaker 2>Jones junction literation there, Dan, can't you say?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio State and Washington recent Rosie ranch more literation.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you crazy? Why not? Why not Texas and Notre Dame?

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<v Speaker 2>You called it eighteen wheel warehouse. I didn't like it

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<v Speaker 2>when I heard it. I still don't, but I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>thought of anything better. So that's what it is. HM

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<v Speaker 2>LSU and Penn State, the Joe Brady bunch.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the best one. Thank you, Oh Klahoma and Auburn,

0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:24.520
<v Speaker 1>the Sugary Sweethearts, that's cute. Twenty seventeen Sugar Bowl. You

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<v Speaker 1>really like talking with this under you, don't you?

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<v Speaker 2>I do bed People's Court music, Clemson and Michigan, the

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<v Speaker 2>Rashawn Gary round About, and finally, as we said, Florida

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<v Speaker 2>Flora State.

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<v Speaker 1>In Miami, that trio rounding out Florida. Mind. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna do is if you I mean, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you the first pick. I don't really care. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you select with the first pick the eighteen wheeler Warehouse,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas and Notre Dame, you feel like the National Championship

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<v Speaker 1>is going to come from that pair? You felt you

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<v Speaker 1>feel it so strongly that you're taking that pair. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to make the case. And then I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>make the case against. And I want people to weigh

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<v Speaker 1>in listening. Not that they agree that Texas or Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame is going to make the championship game or excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>win the national championship, but who did a better job

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<v Speaker 1>arguing for or against? Okay, like, if you really think,

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<v Speaker 1>ty like, look, that's a tough ask to defend Texas

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<v Speaker 1>and Notre Dame going to the National championship game or

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<v Speaker 1>winning the national championship. Excuse me, that's a tough ask. Well,

0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.400
<v Speaker 1>you know what he really positioned it. Well, I'm giving

0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:32.400
<v Speaker 1>him the nod. There, So a better job of this game,

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<v Speaker 1>am I? I think you're gonna do great. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to do well at this game. Just ty, It's

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<v Speaker 1>not isn't it. What's it called? George Costanza, you said

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a lie. If you believe true, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to get to that place mentally and emotionally.

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<v Speaker 2>Tie. Okay, a lot of bs going to be coming

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<v Speaker 2>through this microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're ready to do okay. And the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing is we should mention whichever team wins the national championship.

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<v Speaker 1>Say Ohio State wins the national championship, they are the

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<v Speaker 1>three reseed, and if they're on your squad, I'll buy

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<v Speaker 1>you three beers. I'll buy you three tacos. I'll buy

0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.959
<v Speaker 1>you three of any reasonably reasonably priced social eating or

0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.640
<v Speaker 1>drinking item. Okay, is that the bet? That's the bet.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as it's not a hair bet, I'm fine

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<v Speaker 1>with that. It's not a hair bet. But if A

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<v Speaker 1>and M or USC wins, it's pricey Florist state wins

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<v Speaker 1>a national championship. Yeah, so you want me to go first? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>take the first pick? What are we calling this a

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<v Speaker 1>national championship draft. I will come up with a more

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<v Speaker 1>clever name later. I have the Blue Ship Fantasy Court

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<v Speaker 1>like blue Chip Blue Championship. But it's workshop. Take that

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<v Speaker 1>first pack, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>With my first overall pick. We get so much mileage

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<v Speaker 2>out of that draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Chot so much it makes me feel great.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not crazy about Michigan, but it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>for me to bet against Clemson, So I am going

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<v Speaker 2>to go with the Rashawn Gary roundabout pairing. Wow, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take both Clemson and Michigan. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>start with Michigan. Yeah, I hate this selection.

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<v Speaker 1>What you got to sell? It sell me. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do anything. I don't want to. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do anything. I don't want to tie. What

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<v Speaker 1>I will sell.

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<v Speaker 2>You on is why Michigan will not win the national

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<v Speaker 2>championship this year. Okay, they got questions at quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not so supposed to do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Show I could do whatever I damn well, please, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking here, sir, sir Michigan's got questions at quarterback,

0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:41.600
<v Speaker 2>questions on the line, questions about their wide receiver depth.

0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm very mixed on their defense. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>which direction the program is headed. I really genuinely root

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<v Speaker 2>for Michigan to be better than they've been and to

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<v Speaker 2>truly make that push into the upper echelon of college football.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not there yet. I don't know what they'll get

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<v Speaker 2>there under gym hardball. They're my hand, okay, because Clemson.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, now I have to make the case

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<v Speaker 1>for Michigan in order to see who does better. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no logical case for Michigan. Disagree, disagree, Continue, well, what's

0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the case? Go ahead. The case for Michigan is they've

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<v Speaker 1>routinely had an excellent defense, certainly until the Ohio State game.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe it's one of those things, like those dig headlines,

0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:26.600
<v Speaker 1>where it's like this one little wrinkle opened up everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps this is the year because they're deep. I like

0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.840
<v Speaker 1>them at all three levels. Michigan. They returned key players

0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:35.520
<v Speaker 1>at all three levels on defense, and yes, quarterback is

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<v Speaker 1>an issue, but they haven't had to rely on a

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<v Speaker 1>transfer like they've had to do in multiple years with

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Rudock and Shaye Patterson more recently. So they have

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<v Speaker 1>system guys in Joe Milton and Dylan McCaffrey. Are the killers. No,

0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.159
<v Speaker 1>probably not no, But you don't necessarily need that if

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<v Speaker 1>you have an excellent defense and you surround them with

0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:53.600
<v Speaker 1>talented dudes. They're better at running back than where they

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<v Speaker 1>were last year. They've gotten a lot better along the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line these past couple of years with the hiring

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<v Speaker 1>of a new coach and Ed Warren. And while I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely have questions about receiver Josh Gattison year two, maybe

0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.480
<v Speaker 1>he's adjusting things. He's still pretty well regarded, maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>among Michigan fans, but in the coaching community. People I

0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:16.840
<v Speaker 1>think think pretty highly of him. The schedule works out

0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:19.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty well, ty the schedules. I mean, I know they

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<v Speaker 1>go to Columbus, but before that, you know, to get

0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Washington as early as they do is a good thing.

0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.040
<v Speaker 1>As they break in a new offensive system with your guy,

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<v Speaker 1>John Donovan, I think they can there.

0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:34.200
<v Speaker 2>J there are Michigan fans out there ripping off their

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<v Speaker 2>face masks and just given a good old primal scream.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, you've given Michigan fans more joy than they've

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<v Speaker 2>experienced in the last several months.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying there's a certain degree of continuity, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't break through until you do right. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>go through. Clemson didn't beat Florida State until they did Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So with Ohio State having to replace what they do

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<v Speaker 1>on defense, and we'll get to Ohio State for and against,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's a great to be going to Columbus.

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly am not.

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<v Speaker 2>Edge up Michigan as part of a trade like a

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<v Speaker 2>three for one trade to see if I can pry

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<v Speaker 2>a true contender away from you.

0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:14.159
<v Speaker 1>But Michigan is fine. I've got Michigan. Look, Wisconsin and

0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Penn State are both at home this year. It's successive weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>In late September early October. They traveled to Minnesota without

0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Kirk Sharaka, but with your boy Mike Sandford calling the offense.

0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 1>And the back half of their schedule Purdue by Maryland, Rutgers, Indiana,

0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State. If they can win games that are close,

0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:36.000
<v Speaker 1>they can win some toss ups and quarterback works out.

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<v Speaker 1>My problem with Michigan, and even though I just made

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<v Speaker 1>the case for him, my problem with them is what

0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:43.280
<v Speaker 1>I discovered while taking a shower. Oh and my problem

0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:45.840
<v Speaker 1>is literally that word. I think Michigan has a problem

0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:50.760
<v Speaker 1>problem on offense, a problem problem, and that is I

0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know of any player on their offense. When you

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<v Speaker 1>look at teams that compete for national championships regularly, they

0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:02.120
<v Speaker 1>all have players that can be described has problems. Najee

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Harris is a problem justin Ross was and unfortunately won't

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 1>be this year. A problem justin fields is a problem

0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 1>where you know what they're going to just relate to

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:13.919
<v Speaker 1>what you found in the shower. This is I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about how I felt about Michigan in the shower time. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so no antomical references here, Okay, no, no, no, everything

0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 1>is totally acceptable as per usual in the shower. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I was thinking about. That I was thinking about.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you look at the back half of this

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<v Speaker 1>blue chip ratio list, is what does their roster of

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>problems in a good way look like? And especially on

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the outside like Hassan Haskins and Zach Sharbone in the backfield,

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 1>they're pretty good. I need problems if I'm holding up hardware.

0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Travis etn JK. Dobbins Hilaires. They're probably do a college

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<v Speaker 1>football podcast. You think about this stuff in the shower.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I can be done with Michigan. Can we

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 1>be done with Michigan? Please? All right? Make make a

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Clemson case. Be positive.

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm very positive. I'm very bullish on Clemson. One

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 2>to three favorites. I believe to with Ohio State atop

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.640
<v Speaker 2>the latest Vegas polls or Vegas odds.

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence is probably going to.

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Win the Heisman, maybe him or Justin Fields, but he's

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 2>certainly in the conversation. He's also going to have some

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 2>competition from his own backfield with Travis Etn who I

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.880
<v Speaker 2>think burrowed some brows by saying he's coming back.

0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, big deal.

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Amari Rodgers is going to have to pull a little

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.440
<v Speaker 2>bit more weight in that receiving core now that Justin

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Ross is going to be out with his own health issues,

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 2>and of course they had t Higgins move on to

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 2>the NFL. They've got a cavalcade of playmakers. It's been

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 2>a thing at Clemson. In case you haven't noticed. They

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<v Speaker 2>do have some questions on their offensive line, but they

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 2>recruited very well there. Their defense should be really good.

0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:59.879
<v Speaker 1>In the front four. And we've seen what Clemson can do,

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:03.160
<v Speaker 1>and they've got a really good front for haven't we. Yeah,

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.719
<v Speaker 1>we have the back seven.

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:10.400
<v Speaker 2>More questions about the back seven, thankfully though, Brent Venables

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 2>is a guy who knows how to build up defense. Sure,

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at the schedule, I'm looking at this team.

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at another run through the playoffs, another run

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:24.679
<v Speaker 2>into that national championship game. I feel very confident. I

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:27.399
<v Speaker 2>feel very confident Dan that this is one of the

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.160
<v Speaker 2>final two teams standing at the end of all of this,

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 2>assuming they can get by the Notre Dame fighting.

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Ours should talk about a little bit later. I mean,

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:36.439
<v Speaker 1>that's the huge hurdle because it's in South Bend, right

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.479
<v Speaker 1>in South Bend. It's in so huge. I think they

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 1>have problems in a good way on both sides. I'm

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to qualify that throughout the show. Did you

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 1>find these while in the shower the Clemson good problems? Yeah?

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I did not find that. This is all a Michigan

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 1>shower Michigan right, Okay. There are pieces on all three

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 1>levels of Clemson's defense that I like a lot, especially

0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 1>when you look at their incoming recruiting class. The justin

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Ross loss is a huge hit, even though they've developed

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.359
<v Speaker 1>receivers perhaps better than any other school. You know, Dabos

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Sweeney's background makes it so. And Travis CTN is you know,

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>you give them an inch, you're given up a mile.

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>So the case is really difficult against Clemson. But what

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 1>we've seen from Clemson almost annually is that yearly lapse,

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:24.199
<v Speaker 1>that brain fart Saturday, whether it was North Carolina and

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>allowing the tar Heels to control the ball, whether it

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 1>was NC State, whether it's pit whoever. That it's tough

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 1>sometimes when you are so far ahead of the pack,

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>no pun intended to keep your focus all year long,

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 1>no matter the success you've had and because of and

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 1>I still think the ACC is getting better, but not

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>anywhere near as deep as it needs to be to

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:47.360
<v Speaker 1>be getting respect from me and probably you. If they

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 1>have that slip up this year, even if it's against

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 1>a good notreed aime team, they're going to be dinged

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>more so than other teams, thus making their path harder.

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:57.199
<v Speaker 1>And we've seen it in a lot of seasons that

0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>a clear playoff worthy team is left out just because

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 1>of a week of lapsing. So that to me, is

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>the case against Clemson that because they're so thoroughly deep everywhere,

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, they lose a huge problem in Isaiah Tim

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Simmons in a good way on defense, who is so

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 1>do everything. But I'm not worried, particularly about a brand

0:27:16.560 --> 0:27:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Venable's defense right now that that's going to be an

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>actual issue. So I think your case is strong. That's

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the only way I see them being left out. That

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>they are just an extraordinary eleven and one twelve and one,

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.679
<v Speaker 1>but everything just broke unluckily for them.

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Interesting game in Week two against Louisville kille Cunningham. Okay,

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 2>it is your selection, Dan, I have selected to and Michigan.

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I'd really like to be fun, but my cases against

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>so many players just are hanging on my head. I'm

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>going to take Alabama and Texas A and M almost.

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know that I'm going to make the

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>case for Texas A and M which is difficult tie,

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>but I play the game. I buy in sure. So

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 1>the case for Alabama is pretty straightforward. The most talented

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>team in the country. They are going to be a

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:16.120
<v Speaker 1>lot healthier upfront on defense than they were last year.

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>They should, I believe get Dylan Moses back at a

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>certain high rate of play. The schedule is, you know what,

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 1>it is trickier than usual, But they've earned a benefit

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:29.239
<v Speaker 1>of the doubt that I don't think anybody has. They

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>have USC on a neutral site, as at least by

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the time we're talking, they do. They have Georgia during

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 1>the regular season, which is great, but it's in Tuscaloosas

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>that's nice for them. They've got to buy between their

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>two toughest road games in the conference, and that's at

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Tennessee at LSU, and they finish against Texas A and

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>M and Auburn. The case for is that they have

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>one of the best five running backs in the country,

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe one of the best ten players in the country,

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>a Heisman candidate in Najie Harris. They still have DeVante

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Smith and Jalen Waddle, and even though the secondary looks

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 1>to be pretty new, they don't really have seasons that

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>you can point to where you can say, man, you

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 1>could just throw on Alabama Nick Saban. This is what

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>he does. He transforms and develops and identifies quality defensive backs.

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>So I'm dancing around the quarterback thing because sometimes it

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't matter. They won a national championship with Jake Koker,

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>who is fine. Mac Jones is at least fine. Bryce Young,

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 1>while a true freshman, looks like he'll develop into something

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>probably special. Now will he be that guy in September

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>if he wins the job. I don't know that Georgia

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>defense looks like it's really really good, But just in

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 1>terms of what we've seen in the last decade, Alabama

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 1>and the odds feels pretty smart. Make your case against

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Alabama right now.

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't have a good case against Alabama.

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess you're killing me here.

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 2>You're killing me well if you were trying to, if

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.959
<v Speaker 2>you were trying to establish one. I guess you can

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 2>point to inexperience on the defense maybe maybe sure picking

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 2>them apart though, but you're splitting hairs here.

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>They're just so good. They're so good across the board.

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 2>The Mac Jones Bryce Young thing, I think will be

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:22.239
<v Speaker 2>a question, right, what's the offense going to look like?

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 2>That's tough to say, but I think you hit it.

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 2>In either case. We have seen Nick Saban thrive both

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 2>with and without a dynamic dual threat quarterback, especially when

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 2>he's got a beast offensive line and a running back

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 2>like Naji.

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:37.479
<v Speaker 1>Harris, which they do.

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 2>The line is great, which they do, and they've got

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 2>receivers out wide. They will find ways to put up points.

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 2>There's not a doubt in my mind. Defensively, I guess

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 2>the only thing that there is some inexperience, but they're

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 2>just so good the level of talent there. Again, this

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 2>is the top blue chip ratio team at eighty three percent,

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 2>so I think they're they're doing just fine. The schedule

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 2>is interesting to me. It features USC, a team that

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 2>we're going to discuss here.

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>It features that's the clear reason. I think that's the

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>clear reason to pick against them.

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Georgia in Week three early on against a really

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 2>good defense. As you said, there are road spots at Tennessee,

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 2>at LSU, and then later in the year home against

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 2>A and M, who we're going to talk about momentarily

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 2>and Auburn. It's an SEC West schedule. They do get Georgia,

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 2>they add in USC. This is not a Clemson schedule,

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, and no disrespect to Clemson, but this is

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 2>an SEC West schedule.

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>They got to play two of the three best teams

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>in the East. We got a tough draw with Georgia,

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>and they tack on USC as well.

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 2>So I guess that would be the case that you

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 2>could find a slip up there on the Alabama side

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 2>of things.

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>You can find two slip ups you could find. You

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>could see Georgia and going to Baton Rouge if if

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>LSU is still pretty good, which I think they will

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>be on offense anyway with terras Marshall and mar Chase,

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>those are problems. Die those are big time problems. So

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>going to Baton Rouge even after a bye they both

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 1>have that bye week and having Georgia, they could have

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>a very successful ten and two season and not even

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>end up in the playoffs.

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Can I can I ask you about your handcuff in

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 2>this selection A and M. You want the case if

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I swapped out TCU for A and M this year,

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 2>would you think less of me?

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I'd much rather have A and M on TCU?

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>What is with you in TCU? I just I've had

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>a hard time quitting TCU. You know how it is?

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Do you should? We like have our pal Marshall who

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>played at TCU Marshall Newhouse, so you can just say

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>tell me frog stories. Yeah, that's right.

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I have a hard tuitting TCU, but I feel like

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 2>it's easier if I stay in the Great State of Texas.

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Give me the case four and against A and M.

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Mike Elco is one of the absolute best defensive

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>coordinators in the country. You saw the step they took

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>forward on defense last year the Aggies. You look at

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>their schedule, it was a murderer's role last year. You

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>look at their skeed this year. I am not going

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>as bullish as you would went with Nebraska and their

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>ability to potentially start seven to zero. I'm saying non zero,

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>nine and one or ten and oh start for Texas,

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>A and M. They have four straight first year coaches

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 1>and I don't remember the exact order, but in Colorado, Arkansas,

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Fresno State, and Mississippi State early on five overall because

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>they also have Lanekiffen on their schedule, and that includes

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>trips to Auburn and two South Carolina. I believe in

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 1>successive weeks, but this was a team that got that's

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 1>just sort of out ugly Auburn in a losing effort

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>last year. South Carolina is doable. I think they'll have

0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>a better offense with Mike Bobo, but even traveling to Columbia.

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a it's a winnable game, and they've

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 1>recruited well enough that some gaps can be filled by

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>four and five star guys, especially on defense. Now they're

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>going to need to rush the pass or better. The

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 1>offensive line needs to be a lot more consistent, and

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>obviously biggest of all Kellen Mond, who does play up

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>to big games times, you know, especially with his legs.

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>We saw the near win against Clemson a couple of

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>years ago. He's played well against Alabama. If Kellen Mond

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 1>can string together in year thirteen of his time at

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Texas A and M a top four season in the SEC.

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Quarterback wise, he's a fishing. He doesn't give the ball back.

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 1>He you know, guts out third and seven's with his

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 1>legs to keep drives going. I understand the case. It's

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>a good year to get LSU because we don't know

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.360
<v Speaker 1>anything about what they're going to be Miles Brennan wise,

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:35.480
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I think they're gonna be excellent on

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 1>defense with bow Polini. But it's a good year. If

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 1>any year is to come, it's a good year to

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:43.319
<v Speaker 1>get them. So I'm going to ride the recruiting and

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Mike Elco to say, we're going to fill in some gaps,

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 1>We're going to take advantage of inexperienced sidelines early on,

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and we're just going to pile up small victories and

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 1>then suddenly we're sitting at nine and one or ten

0:34:56.280 --> 0:35:02.319
<v Speaker 1>and zero. That's the case for all right. The case

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>against the.

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 2>Case against them is that they're in the SEC West,

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 2>and sure, while I think they've got a decent enough

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 2>quarterback and Kellen Mond. Talked a lot about Kellen Mond

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 2>last year and how it was really all on his shoulders.

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.240
<v Speaker 1>He didn't get much help. I think he's decent enough.

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 2>The argument against A and M is that he's not

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 2>nearly decent enough to beat someone like Trevor Lawrence or

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Justin Fields in a national championship. I could make the

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>case that A and M could start ten and oh.

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I truly believe it, like I

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:40.280
<v Speaker 2>believe Nebraska seven and zero, but I could make that case.

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll make the case against Nebraska. Watch a Nebraska game.

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Adam Christian North Texas, Colorado, Arkansas, neutral site, Mississippi, Staten

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Starkville going to be difficult. Fresno at Auburn at South

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Carolina by Ole, Miss Vandy at Bama and LSU at

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 1>home at Kyle Field to end the season.

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I could make that case for ten and zero.

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:04.240
<v Speaker 2>The schedule's nice. They've got the veteran QB and Mond.

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 2>The issue I see is that he needs help around him,

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, like, who are the vertical charts? Can they

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 2>block up front? Can they rush the pass?

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Problem? Problem? Is that what you're saying. I think that's

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I think that's what I'm saying. The

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:23.840
<v Speaker 1>problem problem. It could be Jimbo Fisher. The problem problem could.

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Be the recruiting class that he has turned in the

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 2>last couple of years. He's done a really good job there.

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 2>But as for that one playmaker, one or two playmakers,

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 2>and I.

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Don't know who that is. Yeah, and I don't know

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the problem.

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Kellen Mond can turn into that guy.

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 2>We know a lot about what he is already, and

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 2>I think it's asking an awful lot to expect that

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:47.280
<v Speaker 2>he is suddenly going to turn into this ultra efficient

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:50.240
<v Speaker 2>passer who is very responsible with the football. Just doesn't

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 2>seem like that's the direction this is going to go be.

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 2>I would love to be puzzling surprised, but it would

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 2>definitely be a surprise.

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I worked you through an exercise. It's a weird way

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 1>of phrasing what I'm about to say. I worked you

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>through an exercise saying if if the Aggie's had the

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>best fourth best SEC quarterback of the past decade or so,

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>if it's you know, so, like who is the best

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:19.800
<v Speaker 1>fourth best during a specific season quarterback? You know Tyler Wilson,

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Nick Marshall, Brandon Allen, Connor Shaw, guys like that who

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>are definitely pretty good, dependable, just not killers. Does that

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>vault Texas A and M to a different strata? And

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>so you know Kyle Shermer. Do those names move the

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>needle for you enough to say now I think differently

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:44.399
<v Speaker 1>about Texas A and M if.

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Shermer were the quarterback at A and M and

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:48.320
<v Speaker 2>not Kellen mand Is that what you're asking?

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Right? Who has Kyle Shermer really did not win or

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 1>perform admirably in huge Vanderbilt games, but you put up

0:37:56.320 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 1>nice numbers? I think, oh, man, that's impossible. I don't know.

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I still think the question remains. You like Melko though, right,

0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I do like my Irish heart, I do. The question

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:12.840
<v Speaker 2>remains about the help though. It doesn't matter what quarterback

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 2>you put in there. Tell me about the help Tell

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 2>me who's running the rock. Tell me who the vertical

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:20.439
<v Speaker 2>threats are? None of those guys for the helpers? Yeah,

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 2>who are the helpers? One of those guys who's rushing

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 2>the passer?

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 2>These are questions that I have, regardless of who the

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 2>quarterback is.

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to make a selection a new path?

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:30.839
<v Speaker 1>I think? Now? Do you get too in a row?

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Are we doing this fantasy draft?

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>We're snaking it. It's up to you. Yeah, I'm you

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>made the game. No, you know what? No, I didn't

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 1>say that as we started. So this the pick goes

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to you. It says right here, fantasy snakes. Yeah.

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 2>In the rules that you wrote up, my and Dan

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 2>will conduct a snake style fantasy draft of teams.

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:50.240
<v Speaker 1>In the pool of teams, can I make a selection?

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Who do you got? I'm going to take the Jarvis

0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Jones junction? Ty whoa Georgia? Georgia usc Jarvis Jones transferring

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 1>transferring to the Dogs from the Trojans. The case for

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Georgia is somewhat straightforward, though it does have its limitations.

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 1>The case for Georgia is Kirby Smart and his staff

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and that program. They've amassed an absurd amount of talent,

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>especially on defense. Dan Lanning, I thought did a great

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 1>job last year as he stepped into the role coordinating

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the defense, especially upfront, especially in the meat of that defense.

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 1>They're going to get after the quarterback. They're going to

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 1>collapse pockets. There are no shortage of problems good problems

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 1>on that Georgia defense. Offensively is actually where my question is,

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 1>even though people seem to be pretty bullish because of

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the combination of Jamie Newman and new offensive coordinator Todd Mounkin,

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 1>they don't have any time together. Ty No, they didn't

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:48.479
<v Speaker 1>practice over the spring, and it's something we talked about

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I talked about with Joe Morehead, which is what are

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 1>offenses going to look like with new coordinators when they

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 1>don't have time to sort of see what they have

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>both in their returning players and in the case of Georgia,

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 1>what do they have in this transfer in Jamie Newman.

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>He's a very different kind of quarterback than what they've

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 1>done recently. A lot of RPO stuff. He runs a

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>lot he's extremely talented, but they don't have time. They

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>don't have time with him. The good news is they're

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 1>surrounding him with good problems ty George Pickens, Demetrius Robertson good.

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:20.280
<v Speaker 1>But it'll be a new offensive line. But they've recruited

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 1>there really well should be as a mere white in

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the backfield, former number one running back who's had injury issues.

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 1>But there's enough there even without their killers in the

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 1>backfield recently with Nick Chubb and Sony Michelle and DeAndre

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Swift that all of their offensive issues probably won't be

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:42.840
<v Speaker 1>solved because of the introducing Jamie Newman and Todd Monkin

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>really quickly. But you look at what they look like

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>after or because during and after the South Carolina game

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 1>last year, they weren't scoring thirty points. I don't think

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>they did until Georgia Tech with that much talent. So

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>that's the case against and also they traveled to Alabama

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 1>and you can hop on this little bit more. I'm

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 1>doing your work for you. The middle of their schedule

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 1>is trappy. I don't know if you have it in

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>front of you. I do, but it's Georgia has been

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 1>a troubling October team. These past couple of years, so that,

0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to me would be my concern. But I think the

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 1>case is strong that there's just so much in so

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 1>many places on both sides of the ball.

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's so hard to split hairs with Georgia.

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 2>You love the talent level, I absolutely am with you.

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I love the defense. They're completely loaded back there. Offensively,

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:36.719
<v Speaker 2>I've been reading the same optimism. I want to feel optimistic.

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I want to feel more confident.

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 2>But to your point, Jamie Newman, Todd Monkin, there's a

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 2>lot there that remains to be seen. What will this

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 2>offense look like. There's also a lot of turnover all

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 2>on the offensive line, sure, which is troubling in the SEC.

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:58.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at the schedule now, there are four true

0:41:58.440 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 2>road games.

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>That's it.

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:03.240
<v Speaker 2>There are a couple neutral siders, but for true road games.

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 2>And you mentioned that stretch in October. Start off the

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 2>month with Vandy at home, then they get Auburn at home.

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:16.479
<v Speaker 2>Then they go to Missouri, which is a weird place

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:16.799
<v Speaker 2>to play.

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's be honest. Now we look ahead week before the

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>bye yeah.

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Bye week before the Florida game in Jacksonville, and then

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.400
<v Speaker 2>there is what I think could be a weird letdown

0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 2>look ahead spot on the road in Columbia, South Carolina

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 2>against the South Carolina game Cocks before coming back home

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 2>to square off against Tennessee.

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't think they'll look past it after losing

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 1>last year. It's certainly a revenge spot, but that is

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>a hell of a sandwich.

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 2>Definitely some letdown potential there, depending on the way the

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Florida game goes. Because Florida is another team on our

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:50.399
<v Speaker 2>list and they should be pretty solid as well. It's

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 2>an interesting schedule. I think it's well balanced all throughout.

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 2>They do need to get through that middle portion. I

0:42:57.239 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 2>like the fact that they get Alabama early. Alabama's got

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 2>some questions. We talked about Alabama not that many, but

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 2>what's the offense look like? Some questions elsewhere that they

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 2>need to answer. I like the fact that George has

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 2>got a rock solid defense and they've got the Crimson

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 2>tider early. I think that works to their advantage. I

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:21.479
<v Speaker 2>like this pick a lot, I really do. I thought

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:26.359
<v Speaker 2>about going with this if I had the opportunity to

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 2>steal them off the back of a truck if you didn't.

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>But the one.

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 2>That I'm most interested in, actually yeah, of this pairing

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 2>is not Georgia but USC.

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 1>This is listen. I'm I'm putting myself out there because

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:43.840
<v Speaker 1>we've enjoyed making fun of USC and hype for USC

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 1>and expectations for USC each and every year. And next

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 1>year is the year. Next year is the year. The

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:52.959
<v Speaker 1>case is pretty straightforward for USC. They returned the best

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>quarterback in the conference. It's a good place to start, Tye.

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Keaton's Loovas is the best returning quarterback in the Pac twelve.

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 1>And there are other guys who are talented. Nobody accomplished

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 1>what he accomplished. Nobody don't think has the ceiling that

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:06.799
<v Speaker 1>he does. The best of Keaton Slovas is the clear

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 1>highest in the conference right now. The talent up front

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:12.759
<v Speaker 1>on defense, I like j Twu Felly, I like Drake.

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I always forget Drake Jackson. I think Drake Jackson is

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>the defensive lineman. Drake London is the pass catcher. I

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 1>like Drake Jackson. I like Pollier. I'll get it right

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 1>by the season. Not Taeote. I like him at linebacker.

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>The secondary's experience. Todd Orlando I still think is a

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 1>good defensive coordinator, but I don't think he was right

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 1>for what ailed Texas last season. I like Graham Harrell

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:38.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Their schedule sucks, it's what kind of sucks

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:42.800
<v Speaker 1>that's the case against. But even still, it's a Utah

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>team that's always pretty good and it's on the road

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 1>in Salt Lake. I always like picking against pretty decent

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:49.760
<v Speaker 1>teams with some hype going to Salt Lake City because

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:51.719
<v Speaker 1>that's just it's where pretty good teams go to die

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and get exposed. They're traveling to Eugene early on in November.

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Washington is back at home. They're on the road against Ucla,

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 1>but not really because it's with in La and then

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 1>they finished with Notre Dame at home. It's a tough schedule,

0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:10.240
<v Speaker 1>but the receivers, the defront on defense, the coaching upgrade

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I think. I think. I still think to Orlando is

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:17.320
<v Speaker 1>an upgrade to Clancy Pendergast in twenty twenty. So that's

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the case right now is for a somewhat open Pac

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 1>twelve South. Their road to the Pack twelve championship game,

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 1>if there is one, is not terribly bumpy. I hate

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:30.799
<v Speaker 1>going to Utah, but other than that, yeah, you can

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 1>make a good Keaton Slovis factor is you get to

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>early December, anything can happen. Perhaps that's the case to me.

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:40.879
<v Speaker 2>See, I mean the move last year to the air

0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 2>raid was something that I know we spent a lot

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 2>of timeline and I think looking back now, you have

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:48.720
<v Speaker 2>to look back at it, and the injury to JT.

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Daniels was unfortunate. But finding Keaton slovas a true freshman,

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:56.919
<v Speaker 2>there's a huge win for Clay Hilton. Installing that air

0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:58.879
<v Speaker 2>raid and getting as much out of it as they

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 2>did a huge win. That offense should be dynamic again

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 2>this year. It's not just clear that quarterback room. By

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:07.879
<v Speaker 2>the way, did you see that? I see they cleared

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:10.319
<v Speaker 2>it up, but Matt Think is still there. Matt Think

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 2>might be a professor at this point. He's in like

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:15.920
<v Speaker 2>his ninth year of eligibility. He never left. No, he's

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna get the memo. Okay, he's the backup. But my

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 2>point here on the offense is just that it's not Slovas.

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>It's not just Slovs.

0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:27.399
<v Speaker 2>They've got a good line in front of him, They've

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:31.560
<v Speaker 2>got good receivers out wide. I think they'll be dynamic defensively.

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:33.919
<v Speaker 2>It's a mixed bag. It's a mixed bag. I don't

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:35.880
<v Speaker 2>know if we know what to expect. I do agree

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 2>that Todd Orlando is an upgrade, but trying to come

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:41.600
<v Speaker 2>in and fix things, especially in this day and age

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:45.279
<v Speaker 2>with the coronavirus and practices being canceled and maybe not

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 2>being able to work as much with the team as

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:47.799
<v Speaker 2>he would like.

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 1>It's tough to say. It's tough to say.

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:55.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm really intrigued by USC, and I was pleasantly surprised

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 2>when I went in and did some quick research on

0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:03.280
<v Speaker 2>them going into twenty twenty. I honestly found myself excited

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:05.360
<v Speaker 2>to see what this team turns into.

0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 1>If we had said three years ago that USC got

0:47:08.719 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Todd Orlando to run their defense, everybody's super pumped.

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:21.319
<v Speaker 2>Right, I would think, so, yeah, okay, because you have

0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:24.759
<v Speaker 2>both Alabama and Georgia.

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like I'm in a bit of somebody.

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:29.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm in a bit of a defensive spot here, and

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 2>I need to go to Ohio State and Washington the

0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 2>so called recent Rosie Ranch Dan.

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:37.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeh. Playing the rose ball a couple years ago.

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:41.360
<v Speaker 1>It is hard to bet against a team with Justin Fields.

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 2>I really like Ohio State. I like what Ryan Day

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 2>did a year ago. Let me start by making the

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 2>case against Ohio State.

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:54.319
<v Speaker 1>Wait, this is very confusing for me. So this now

0:47:54.360 --> 0:47:55.919
<v Speaker 1>I have to make the case for. No.

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:58.399
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm gonna make both cases. I'm gonna play both

0:47:58.440 --> 0:47:59.239
<v Speaker 2>sides of this coin.

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I gave you the rules up front. I am making

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:03.399
<v Speaker 1>my own rules. Is my show.

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's an awful lot of turnover here, there is.

0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I cannot make the case for without first acknowledging that

0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:15.240
<v Speaker 2>there's somewhat of a case against because the secondary got crushed.

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:18.400
<v Speaker 2>They got turnover along the defensive line, at wide receiver end,

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 2>at running back.

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 2>You look at this team, there's a lot there that

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:27.880
<v Speaker 2>remains to be answered. But you start with justin fields.

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a pretty damn good starting point. You

0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 2>look around the roster, up and down that roster. Yes,

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 2>there are guys leaving, but god of their guys coming in.

0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 2>This is a really, really good Ohio State team. As

0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 2>I look at this schedule, Dan, of course, they've got

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:49.760
<v Speaker 2>some games on there that I think are notable, particularly

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 2>in mid to late October. They got a Michigan State

0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 2>game that I think in recent years might look a

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 2>little bit more formidable.

0:48:57.200 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 1>But they've got a new sandwich there. Huh.

0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, who knows what direction that game's gonna head. They

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 2>do go to Beaver Stadium October twenty fourth. That's been

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 2>a tough place for them to play. But outside of that,

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Dan and maybe that Oregon game. What do you mean,

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:18.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe that organ maybe that Oregon game. Oregon's like the

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:19.880
<v Speaker 2>number five team in the country.

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 1>New quarterback. Don't know what's going on at Oudson at

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Autsin in front of a probable empty stadium. Probable empty stadium. Yeah,

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:33.280
<v Speaker 1>I think the schedule works out okay.

0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Otherwise Bowling Green, Buffalo, Rutgers, Iowa, Nebraska, Indiana at Maryland

0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:43.200
<v Speaker 2>at Illinois.

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 1>And then a home game against Michigan.

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 2>There are land mines there a schedule.

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, you just said the word Iowa,

0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:52.600
<v Speaker 1>like you didn't watch the game from two years ago.

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:55.879
<v Speaker 2>I just I feel like it's well balanced. I feel

0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:58.480
<v Speaker 2>like it sets up okay for them. It's just so

0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:02.000
<v Speaker 2>hard to go against justin field. Right now, Ohio State

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:04.800
<v Speaker 2>is a one to three co favorite to win the

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 2>national championship, and despite all that turnover, you still you

0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 2>still have to feel really good about their chances to

0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:13.759
<v Speaker 2>go and certainly make it through the Big Ten, but

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:15.320
<v Speaker 2>also make it back into that playoff.

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm gonna light a candle right now because

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna set the mode, because I want you to

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:24.480
<v Speaker 1>make that sweet, sweet case for national championship Washington Osky football.

0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 1>All Right, hold on, it's getting sentual in here. I

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:28.080
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't have I don't know if you have

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:31.320
<v Speaker 1>LEX steels drop or anything like that. Do I have?

0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Of course I have LEX. You know that I always

0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:41.920
<v Speaker 1>have Lex. All Right, Ty, I'm getting a little steamy

0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:45.480
<v Speaker 1>in this, Clowice, make the case for national champion Washington.

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:51.480
<v Speaker 2>New offensive coordinator John Donovan very dynamic in the NFL,

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:57.239
<v Speaker 2>you can say with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Dan, Yeah, if

0:50:57.239 --> 0:50:59.840
<v Speaker 2>you're not familiar with his work, prepared to be dazzled.

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready. I am available for. I am available for

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm available.

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:11.720
<v Speaker 2>For Counsel Husky. I am available for Council Husky fans.

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:17.200
<v Speaker 2>FYI starting another jac in twenty twenty this time maybe

0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:21.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe maybe Jacob's sermon, Yeah, could be the them

0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:21.839
<v Speaker 2>coming in.

0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:27.319
<v Speaker 1>For Jacob Eason. What else do we got here? Yeah?

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't have much for Washington, Dan, I just wanted

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 2>to grab Ohio State.

0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Would you like me to make the case and you

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:35.160
<v Speaker 1>want to make the case against them? Is that something

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you want to do.

0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's a case for which is part

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 2>of my issue. I just wanted to have Clemson in

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State on my roster, Lesz.

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:47.800
<v Speaker 1>There is no real case for Washington as a national champion.

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 1>The best I can do, and I try to approach

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:53.879
<v Speaker 1>all of these in earnest. They've recruited really well. They're

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:56.360
<v Speaker 1>a blue chip ratio team TI. There's a good amount

0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 1>of talent, especially on defense, really on all three levels,

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:02.880
<v Speaker 1>actually along the line and in the secondary. I really

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 1>really like their secondary treent McDuffie and Elijah Molten, both

0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 1>very very talented corners. Jimmy Lake has built a really

0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 1>good defensive program at Washington. I imagine, like most defensive head coaches,

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 1>they're going to try to go ball control on offense

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and John Donovan and ball control hand in hand. I

0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:24.280
<v Speaker 1>think they have a problem problem Outside of Puka Nakua,

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I think is a good, really good wide receiver for

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 1>you dub Their schedule is nah great time schedule. They

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:35.440
<v Speaker 1>open with Michigan, They're on the road, against Oregon, Utah

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Cal USC and Wazoo. Has Jimmy Lake fielded a defense

0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:42.279
<v Speaker 1>that has lost to Wazoo? He has not. Has he

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:46.919
<v Speaker 1>fielded a defense that has lost to Oregon Utah Cal? Yeah,

0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 1>he has. He definitely has. So the case is if

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.319
<v Speaker 1>they ride ball control and a defense and it's a

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:57.400
<v Speaker 1>weird season because of no crowds. So it's a good

0:52:57.520 --> 0:52:59.480
<v Speaker 1>good year to have no crowd at Oregon if you're

0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 1>on the road, and that's that's something. It's good year

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:03.680
<v Speaker 1>to have no crowd in Salt Lake City. That's a

0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:07.400
<v Speaker 1>very tough place to play. I think that's the case

0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:10.480
<v Speaker 1>that they play smart, they ride their defense, and they

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 1>just they pile up w's. But that's a lot of ats, ty,

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:18.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of ats. All right. I want to

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:21.240
<v Speaker 1>go to my next pick, if that's okay with you, Okay, okay,

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 1>please do.

0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Give me that Joe Brady bunch, give me Joe Brady Bunch.

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Take them.

0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Let me start with Penn State. Penn State's the reason

0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm taking this LSU and Penn State pairing. And I

0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:42.480
<v Speaker 2>like LSU, but Penn State might be the sleeper. They're

0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 2>at seven to one right now, according to.

0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to get to the playoff, not to win it all,

0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:49.040
<v Speaker 1>to get in to the playoffs. Excuse me. Yeah.

0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Kirk Shiraka coming over from Minnesota, new offensive coordinator. I

0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:57.839
<v Speaker 2>love that hire. I think it's an outstanding higher. I

0:53:57.960 --> 0:54:00.880
<v Speaker 2>like the line. I think the running backs are very capable.

0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:04.280
<v Speaker 2>They're deep at running back. I don't know if John

0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Dotson can step up and step in for kJ Hamler.

0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:11.719
<v Speaker 1>That's sort of the main question offensively.

0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:15.600
<v Speaker 2>But the bones are there. The bones are there. Sean Clifford.

0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:18.479
<v Speaker 2>I think Shiraka is going to get more out of him.

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:21.800
<v Speaker 2>He's a legit dual threat quarterback. He can do a lot.

0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:27.120
<v Speaker 2>I think Shiraka can make the most of that situation. Defensively,

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:29.919
<v Speaker 2>they got some losses, but they got some big names

0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:33.000
<v Speaker 2>coming back. They got Shock Tony and Jason Oway and

0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Micah Parsons at linebacker, Tariq Castro fields, Lamont Wade all

0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:41.200
<v Speaker 2>in the back. I said it before, I'll say it again.

0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:43.799
<v Speaker 2>They got to give up fewer backbreaking pass plays. They

0:54:43.840 --> 0:54:45.640
<v Speaker 2>got to get more out of their own passing game.

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:48.360
<v Speaker 2>But this is a team that I think is in

0:54:49.160 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 2>a really, really good spot to maybe maybe be a surprise.

0:54:57.440 --> 0:55:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I now have Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State out

0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:02.960
<v Speaker 2>of the big ten eiees. So I'm gonna get somebody

0:55:03.000 --> 0:55:06.200
<v Speaker 2>with the chance, somebody who's in the conversation come the

0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:07.400
<v Speaker 2>latter half of the season.

0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Penn State schedule this year is it's a good mix.

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:15.479
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's the kind of schedule that you'd

0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:18.800
<v Speaker 2>put together in the old NCAA fourteen video game series.

0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:21.880
<v Speaker 2>You're trying to get that a plus in the scheduled

0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:26.399
<v Speaker 2>department while not totally maiming yourself, right, and so it's

0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:29.719
<v Speaker 2>well balanced. On the road at Virginia Tech, Week two

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:34.000
<v Speaker 2>will be a challenge again. Lane Stadium, maybe without people different.

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:39.839
<v Speaker 1>What's going to be the most haunting empty stadium. It's like, Oh,

0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:43.240
<v Speaker 1>that's so weird to look at fully empty, fully devoid

0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:47.359
<v Speaker 1>of fans. Wow, that's me. It might be Kyle Field.

0:55:48.239 --> 0:55:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say the Michige so big, Yeah, Michigan, Yeah,

0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:54.279
<v Speaker 1>is a good answer. Michigan actually looked really cool. The

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:56.759
<v Speaker 1>way that they've built the MM in the square m

0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:59.920
<v Speaker 1>into the seats, that'll look at least look cool. Kyle

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Field without I know, people like to make fun of

0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:05.279
<v Speaker 1>the sort of faux militariness of Texas A and M.

0:56:05.320 --> 0:56:08.320
<v Speaker 1>But there's an energy about Texas A and M games

0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:11.960
<v Speaker 1>that it's going to feel very weird to see fully,

0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:13.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, vacuumed.

0:56:14.480 --> 0:56:17.120
<v Speaker 2>On the road lane Stadium. Week two, they got San

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Jose State and Northwestern before going on the road to Michigan.

0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Then they've got to buy. Then they have Iowa at home,

0:56:27.760 --> 0:56:30.759
<v Speaker 2>which will totally be a trap game, before Ohio State

0:56:30.800 --> 0:56:35.040
<v Speaker 2>at home, Correct at Indiana at Nebraska, Michigan State, Maryland

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:36.640
<v Speaker 2>at Rutgers to close out the year.

0:56:36.800 --> 0:56:40.160
<v Speaker 1>That's a workable schedule. That's an awesome back half, which

0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:42.319
<v Speaker 1>is also what people say about me in the shower tie.

0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:45.840
<v Speaker 1>But that's an awesome back half. That's a workable schedule.

0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:49.399
<v Speaker 2>So if Penn State can assemble the pieces I think

0:56:49.440 --> 0:56:52.480
<v Speaker 2>primarily on offense and just make a few tweaks on defense,

0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:57.640
<v Speaker 2>they're in a really really good spot here onto LSU.

0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Can I say something about Penn State real quick? Sure can't.

0:57:01.800 --> 0:57:04.520
<v Speaker 1>You can't get picked apart by Kirk Shiraka. If you

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:08.280
<v Speaker 1>hire Kirk, that's right, that's right. You can't. Dan taps

0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:11.719
<v Speaker 1>his forehead. Hire him. If you can't beat him, hire them.

0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:14.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they have any winter wonders on offense.

0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:16.200
<v Speaker 1>That's the clear case. I actually know I should take

0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:18.400
<v Speaker 1>that back. There's a lot of Journey Brown. I like

0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:20.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot about that, dude. I like a lot.

0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:24.720
<v Speaker 1>But your Johan Dotson question, I like Baby Gronk, Pat

0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:28.080
<v Speaker 1>friarm youth, But I worry about who's stretching the field

0:57:28.080 --> 0:57:31.560
<v Speaker 1>against Michigan, Ohio State, Iowa. That to me is a

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:35.000
<v Speaker 1>huge question about Penn State because Michael Parsons on defense

0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:38.080
<v Speaker 1>is see the best linebacker in the country. He's a

0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:41.160
<v Speaker 1>top five draft pick. Yeah, easily. I think they're able

0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:44.760
<v Speaker 1>to with an offensive step forward. I don't think they're

0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:47.480
<v Speaker 1>getting to the playoff, but I think they become even

0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:48.200
<v Speaker 1>more dangerous.

0:57:49.400 --> 0:57:52.120
<v Speaker 2>You may ask about lsues. What does this team look

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:56.120
<v Speaker 2>like without Joe Burrow, without Joe Brady. What's it look

0:57:56.280 --> 0:58:00.439
<v Speaker 2>like without Clyde Edwards, Hilaire and Justin Jefferson and four

0:58:00.480 --> 0:58:03.160
<v Speaker 2>guys that need to be replaced along that offensive line.

0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't have an answer for you. This is a

0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:11.560
<v Speaker 2>team that went through a bit of a revolution last year.

0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:13.560
<v Speaker 2>They caught liking in a bottle with Joe Burrow.

0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was a fluke.

0:58:14.640 --> 0:58:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm not implying that, but that combination of Brady and

0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Burrow was one of the all time greatest offensive seasons

0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:27.360
<v Speaker 2>we've ever seen. They outscored everybody. Joe Burrow had ridiculous numbers.

0:58:28.080 --> 0:58:31.120
<v Speaker 2>They blew out their opponent in the National Championship game.

0:58:31.560 --> 0:58:34.919
<v Speaker 2>This was clearly a once in a generation offense, once

0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:35.960
<v Speaker 2>in a generation team.

0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:37.080
<v Speaker 1>They deserved it.

0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Moving on beyond that, it strikes me that there's still

0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:43.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of talent on this team. Awful lot of

0:58:43.440 --> 0:58:46.760
<v Speaker 2>talent on this team. Even if, as you said, Miles

0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:51.040
<v Speaker 2>Brennan is two thirds as good as what we saw

0:58:51.120 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow do last season, that's still pretty damn good.

0:58:53.680 --> 0:58:56.320
<v Speaker 2>That still gives you a chance in most of these

0:58:56.360 --> 0:59:01.160
<v Speaker 2>games in the SEC. What I like about them is

0:59:01.200 --> 0:59:02.680
<v Speaker 2>that they can rely on that defense.

0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were going to say, Scott Linehan, Sorry, continue.

0:59:07.400 --> 0:59:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I like that Bo Polini is back beaty. Oh love that.

0:59:10.760 --> 0:59:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I like that he's back. I like that they're good

0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:15.720
<v Speaker 2>up front. I love Derek Stingley in the back. There

0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:19.960
<v Speaker 2>are questions at linebacker. There are questions at linebacker, and

0:59:20.000 --> 0:59:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I got real questions about what happens when Texas comes

0:59:22.520 --> 0:59:26.320
<v Speaker 2>to town in week two. But I still think this

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:29.720
<v Speaker 2>team is really well positioned. They've recruited so well. They're

0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:32.760
<v Speaker 2>riding high here after winning that national championship. It does

0:59:32.760 --> 0:59:37.240
<v Speaker 2>feel like they've got some momentum now at Orgeron realize

0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:39.120
<v Speaker 2>the air of his ways and needed to make some

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:42.800
<v Speaker 2>changes on offense. We'll see if they carry over now

0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:45.920
<v Speaker 2>post Joe Brady. But you have to feel awfully good

0:59:45.920 --> 0:59:48.840
<v Speaker 2>about where this team is at, even despite all the losses.

0:59:48.920 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Dan, Yeah, I think they'll be good rushing the quarterback,

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:54.600
<v Speaker 1>even though that's a question. They're just they're going to

0:59:54.600 --> 0:59:57.320
<v Speaker 1>be too talented on every level, especially on the inside

0:59:57.640 --> 0:59:59.840
<v Speaker 1>of their defense. They've got a lot of beef the

1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:01.880
<v Speaker 1>middle of that defense, so it's going to open things

1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:07.040
<v Speaker 1>up everywhere else. I think you hit everything. They should

1:00:07.080 --> 1:00:08.360
<v Speaker 1>be in a good place. And I actually want to

1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:09.920
<v Speaker 1>change my answer. I think Death Valley is going to

1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:13.200
<v Speaker 1>be the most haunting place empty. You got two back

1:00:13.240 --> 1:00:18.479
<v Speaker 1>to back picks here, Dan, Okay, I guess I'll take

1:00:19.840 --> 1:00:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Sugary Sweethearts. So that's Oklahoma and Auburn. Oklahoma is end Auburn.

1:00:26.840 --> 1:00:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Dan, why do you start with Oklahoma here because they've

1:00:32.440 --> 1:00:33.600
<v Speaker 2>got a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think we feel pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay about what Lincoln Riley can do with a new quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>He's sort of our track record at this point. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Ceede Lamb loss to the NFL hurts. What kind

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<v Speaker 2>of production do we get from guys out wide? What

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<v Speaker 2>does it mean to lose Kenneth Murray in the heart

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<v Speaker 2>of that defense? Like there there's some real questions at

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<v Speaker 2>all three levels of this defense. So I was shying

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<v Speaker 2>away from this pick because of questions not only about

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma but also Auburn shall get too momentarily, but start

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<v Speaker 2>with the Sooners here.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel? Well? I mean, you loved Penn State,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can go through all the Penn State College

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<v Speaker 1>Football playoff memories you have. Because Oklahoma gets there, say

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<v Speaker 1>what you will about what they do once there. They

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<v Speaker 1>get there. He's your road, for sure, but they get there.

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<v Speaker 1>The case for Oklahoma is I think pretty straightforward. They

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<v Speaker 1>actually improved on defense the last we saw of them.

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<v Speaker 1>That statement doesn't make sense, but during the Big Twelve

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<v Speaker 1>season they did enough confusing teams, creating havoc attacking quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>that it's clear that Alex Grinch. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>his ceiling is in Norman, but it's clear that he

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<v Speaker 1>is improving things. He is getting them to an interesting place.

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer Ratler was incredibly well thought of coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>high school. I think he was a number one quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>in the class couple of years ago. He steps in

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<v Speaker 1>with experience in the program, and for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not transferring in like the last couple quarterbacks granted

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<v Speaker 1>or less three quarterbacks, two of them one. Heisman's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good track record, so Spencer Ratler should be in a

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<v Speaker 1>good position. Even though they lose Cede Lamb, all they

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<v Speaker 1>do is keep replacing really great receivers with really great receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's Charleston Rambo. I know they're dealing with injuries

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<v Speaker 1>there with Jadon Hazelwood and Theo Howard, but I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>not worried. They lose Trey Sermon, they solve Kennedy Brooks,

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<v Speaker 1>they return a ton along the offensive line, and even

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<v Speaker 1>though you know you mentioned Kenneth Murray and you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>questions on all three levels, I don't know if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a long list right now with big twelve quarterbacks that

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<v Speaker 1>just out and out scare me. You take the good,

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<v Speaker 1>you take the bad. There's Brock Purdy, Right, you take

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<v Speaker 1>the good, you take the bad. There's Sam Ellinger. There's

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<v Speaker 1>nobody that is just like man, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what this defense is gonna do against that guy,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow. Yeah, that's a question. They get Caleb Kelly back,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully for a full season. I like this Oklahoma team.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not an amazing schedule, but it's fine. They get

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<v Speaker 1>Baylor at home, they get Texas, you know, the new

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<v Speaker 1>neutral site like they do every year, through on the

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<v Speaker 1>road against the TCU team. I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>questions about It's a pretty smooth November. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to take Army lightly because we all watched that game

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<v Speaker 1>a little while ago, and they have Tennessee early on.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's Oklahoma. They just keep winning the conference, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think Spencer Ratler, with time to develop now, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he is going to have probably more upside than

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<v Speaker 1>at least they had last year in the long term.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like Oklahoma good amount. Is that candle still

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<v Speaker 1>burning that you lit for Washington?

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to make me talk about bon Nix, Talk

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<v Speaker 2>to me about your love for Sweet Sweet true sophomore

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<v Speaker 2>bon Nicks. Dan make that case for bow Nicks Heisman,

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<v Speaker 2>Heisman contender and National Championship contender.

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<v Speaker 1>Walk me through every single game that bon Nicks has

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<v Speaker 1>lost to Alabama. Walk me through every single one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>He beat Oregon even though he tried not. He beat

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<v Speaker 1>him with that last throw and led an offense in

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<v Speaker 1>a win against Alabama with ant Tua, but nonetheless mid Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>so he has played up in big moments. Chad Morris

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<v Speaker 1>takes over at offensive coordinator. I think that's an upgrade.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Steele is one of the best three defensive coordinators

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<v Speaker 1>in the country. They lose a lot up front, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not terribly concerned. Maybe I should be, but they've

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<v Speaker 1>recruited well enough and Kevin Steel year over year over

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<v Speaker 1>year just keeps not allowing anything of offenses, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to give them the benefit of the doubt. Linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>looks really, really good. The secondary should be fine. They

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<v Speaker 1>lose key pieces, but they should be fine. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think we assume even with a new line in front

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<v Speaker 1>of him, and you know, a sort of up in

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<v Speaker 1>the air situation with a couple good returning receivers. Bownicks

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<v Speaker 1>can get too efficient, because I don't think he was

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<v Speaker 1>last year. I think he can become a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>concern distant this year. Chad Morris has a good reputation,

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<v Speaker 1>at least had a good reputation with what he did

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<v Speaker 1>at Clemson as a coordinator. So with this schedule, North

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina at a neutral site on the road against Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they have a bye before Mississippi State and

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<v Speaker 1>then they finished with LSU and on the road in

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<v Speaker 1>the Iron Bowl. It's a tough schedule for sure, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're you know, they're chaotic Auburn and why count them out?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm rolling with them if we could just add

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more texture here, give me the case

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<v Speaker 1>against do it you against Auburn? Yeah, that's your job now.

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<v Speaker 1>I made the case for both of these teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Entirely new offensive line. You said you kind of panned

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that it's a new offensive line. You're five

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<v Speaker 2>five starters up front in front of a quarterback who,

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<v Speaker 2>let's be honest, had some shaky moments. I liked that

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<v Speaker 2>decidedly more than you all last year.

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<v Speaker 1>That much is clear. Go back and listen. Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Losing five starters up front it's gonna take a while,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in this day and age with the Rona running wild,

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<v Speaker 2>to get that kind of cohesion that you need to

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<v Speaker 2>keep him protected.

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<v Speaker 1>I worry about that.

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<v Speaker 2>And again I agree that Kevin Steele one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best defensive coordinators in the country for sure, But losing

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<v Speaker 2>Derek Brown, losing Marlin Davidson.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you give the secondary a little too much credit.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's questionable. I just I'm not as bullish

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<v Speaker 2>on the defense as I think you are.

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<v Speaker 1>The one defense to really accomplish something against LSU last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Derek Brown's gone, there's a lot different about this defense.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, just every year, every year you turn around

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like the best defense in the red zone

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<v Speaker 1>in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, you get one other PI is your last pick?

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<v Speaker 2>Make it worthwhile?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I have to take. Wait, I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>could take either the eighteen wheel Warehouse or Florida. Man, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's you get one of the other one or the other.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I'm gonna take the eighteen wheel Warehouse.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it, do it, keep gonna make and baby, let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with Notre Dame. Let's get real with it, ty.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get real. Does this mean I get to make

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<v Speaker 2>the case against Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 1>That's correct? That is correct, baby, go ahead, Oh baby,

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<v Speaker 1>are you like an and one sideline announcer? Oh? Baby,

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<v Speaker 1>so I've long now said quarterback and defense. That's my

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<v Speaker 1>combination for playoff caliber. Ian Book is a playoff quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct uh, he is a playoff participating quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>He has led a team to the college football playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct sir, you're on the stand, You're under oath. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that is that is fact. That is fact. Only

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<v Speaker 1>their defense, they have probably one of the best seven

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<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinators in the country. And Clark Lee, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's a total stud. You you have a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a Clark Lee boner. You love Clark Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Ty's easy. I know the candles burning hot. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any obvious killers to me at offensive skill position.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, Chase Claypool had to do a lot himself.

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<v Speaker 1>They tried to build the whole, the whole plane out

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<v Speaker 1>of Chase Claypool last season and it worked to a

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<v Speaker 1>decent extent. But I don't I don't see an obvious

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<v Speaker 1>replacement for him. Cole Koment in the backfield is. It

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<v Speaker 1>just seems like they're just guys. The offensive line should

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<v Speaker 1>be really good in front of in front of ian book,

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<v Speaker 1>They're a decent shaped linebacker. I don't think they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get after the quarterback in the way that they have

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<v Speaker 1>in previous years. But I still think they have guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Dalen Hayes is still I think, yet to reach his potential.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see, but I think clark Lee will put him

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<v Speaker 1>in a decent enough position. With a schedule that man,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got, They've got the body blowback to back with

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<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin and Stanford, but even that, like Davis Mills check Cone,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm not terribly sweating everything. They have McHale

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<v Speaker 1>and Kevin Slovas back to back to finish the season.

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<v Speaker 1>McHale I believe is in South Bend. The USC is

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<v Speaker 1>in LA. But I don't I think they're They always

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be good enough. They you know, they got

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<v Speaker 1>blown out of the water by what Michigan last year.

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<v Speaker 1>They ran all over them. Yep, And they might have

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<v Speaker 1>one of those weeks and maybe maybe it'll be against Clemson,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. Combination defense, secondary should be pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Hamilton steps in Aloi, Gilman gone. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just I think they're going to be solid enough where

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<v Speaker 1>they'll squeak out some Twenty seven to twenty three is

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<v Speaker 1>more often than not. I was going to discredit your

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<v Speaker 1>whole case.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, before you missed, I said, Kyle Hamilton, Kyle Hamilton,

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<v Speaker 2>come on your guy. I would be content letting Clark

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<v Speaker 2>Lee play Kyle Hamilton at all eleven defensive positions.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, move him around like.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Isaiah sim and see what he can do, because

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's really good, he's big, he's really good. He's

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<v Speaker 2>going to play safety. He's going to get more minutes

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<v Speaker 2>as a safety this year. And I think they should

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<v Speaker 2>be really good on defense. The schedule's not bad. They

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<v Speaker 2>got four games that basically determine everything you mentioned, Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>and USC, and there's that Wisconsin game earlier on in

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<v Speaker 2>the year, and then as we get to November, the

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<v Speaker 2>home game against Clemson. And it's really those four games

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<v Speaker 2>that I think will decide a lot, and what we'll

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<v Speaker 2>decide at all truly won't be the defense. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be Ian book and what Tommy Reese can squeeze

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<v Speaker 2>out of Ian Book, what can you get out of

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<v Speaker 2>him this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's catching the passes? Don't know?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's lining up in the backfield, don't know. Can Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Tyree give him something? I hope so, yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>hope her in the backfield. I don't feel great about

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<v Speaker 2>Jafar Armstrong, but I think the line will be okay.

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<v Speaker 2>They recruited well up front. There's a lot to like

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<v Speaker 2>about the offense. I just don't know if we know

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<v Speaker 2>who that problem problem is yet. There are definitely problem

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<v Speaker 2>problems on defense. They'll be fine on defense, but offensive.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've confused you with that term. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's a double negative in the worst way.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's fine. It's fine if your friends problem problem

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<v Speaker 1>that means you have an issue having standout players. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a weird term. A lack of standout players is a

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<v Speaker 1>problem problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I I feel okay, mm hmm okay about the case

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<v Speaker 2>of chance is what it's just a schedule Ian book

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<v Speaker 2>and not having game changers on offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, so I have to I think Texas is

1:11:25.760 --> 1:11:30.960
<v Speaker 1>actually a really easy defense. Texas has seven new assistant coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>two new coordinators, and Mike Rsicch and Chris ash mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>On paper, the thing that really jumps out on offense

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<v Speaker 1>is losing your two big wideouts and Devin de Verne

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<v Speaker 1>and Colin Johns. You're making the case four right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I just draft him. You're making the case for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to be straight here. The case for this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I do with Texas. I like, I know there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's something about the lone star state between TCU Texas

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<v Speaker 1>and Bucky. You just it sings to you. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>They got Sam Elliot, they'll be fun and defensively, you

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<v Speaker 2>other Chris Ashy changing the system. He's trying to be

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<v Speaker 2>a little more reliant on creating pressure without blitzing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they got a lot back on defense, so you got

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<v Speaker 2>to like that. The schedule is is favorable. I like

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<v Speaker 2>that those crash lsu early, maybe in an empty stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine how back Texas would be if they

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<v Speaker 2>went on the road to Tiger Stadium in one week

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<v Speaker 2>two against Elisee with help, no crowd noise, no crowd noise,

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<v Speaker 2>ten out of ten back nest right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, meet George on the Sugar Bowl a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago. So their their record is is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty decent against top SEC teams recently, other than you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the lost to LSU last year. Uh yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're right the optimism. There's a lot of very interesting pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>They return a bunch on the offensive line. The running

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<v Speaker 1>backs are good. It was a question last year, and

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<v Speaker 1>now they have answers there to wreak black transfers in

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<v Speaker 1>to help the receiving corps. I think they moved a

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<v Speaker 1>blue chip running back over to slot receiver, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's enough speed, enough talent around Sam Ellinger, who

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<v Speaker 1>has proved himself to play up to big games at times.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the Chris ash higher. They're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>healthier in the secondary. I like the pieces up front.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they were probably they were probably a year

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<v Speaker 1>away last year, which was weird timing given the win

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<v Speaker 1>over Georgia the year before and the momentum coming into

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<v Speaker 1>the season, But they were probably a year away with

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<v Speaker 1>how young they were on defense, and so now if

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<v Speaker 1>they're healthier and more experienced, those freshman sophomores become sophomores

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<v Speaker 1>and juniors. I think there's a I like Mike Gearsick

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<v Speaker 1>a lot as a coordinator. He makes every place better

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<v Speaker 1>so the case is obviously there. The case against is

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<v Speaker 1>just they are Texas. The universe views them as Texas

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<v Speaker 1>and treats them as such. And you're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>your shootouts against Kansas, You're going to get your weird

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<v Speaker 1>losses to Iowa State or can can you turn those

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<v Speaker 1>close ugly losses into close ugly wins sometimes? But with

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Allinger, with the talent around him, it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a year set up. Even with all of the changes

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<v Speaker 1>on the sideline and the coaching staff, it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a good year to maximize what Texas can be because

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<v Speaker 1>their road games are Kansas State tough place to play,

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<v Speaker 1>probably an empty stadium, Oklahoma State tough place to play,

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<v Speaker 1>probably an empty stadium, and LSU same for them, And

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<v Speaker 1>so it works out pretty well for Texas, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>week two, if they're getting a Miles Brennan who's still

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit raw and unsure of himself, it's great

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<v Speaker 1>for Texas, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>That means that I have one pick to make here,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't it correct? I am stuck with Florida, man. I

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<v Speaker 2>like Florida the Gators. I think Dan Mullen will get

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<v Speaker 2>them ratchet it up. I have come around on calm

1:15:08.560 --> 1:15:16.080
<v Speaker 2>throw Kyle. Do have some questions about some of the

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<v Speaker 2>playmakers on offense, in the backfield elsewhere, but I've come

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<v Speaker 2>to trust Dan Mullen. I think I think he will

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<v Speaker 2>do a fine job in that situation. Defensively, I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're stout as well, and I like the schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>Frankly, I think the.

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<v Speaker 2>Schedule works to their favor. Their road games listen to this,

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<v Speaker 2>At Tennessee a bit of rivalry, right, but at Tennessee

1:15:42.120 --> 1:15:47.080
<v Speaker 2>that's a winnable game. Yeah, on the road, at Old

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<v Speaker 2>miss on the road, at Vandy, on the road at

1:15:49.960 --> 1:15:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Florida State, the close out the year, of course of

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia games, Neutral Cider.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great schedule, really good schedule. In between. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got Eastern Washington, Kentucky, South Alabama, South Carolina, LSU tough

1:16:04.439 --> 1:16:06.800
<v Speaker 1>game but at home. Yeah, but l season games well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've got Missouri, New Mexico State. Like these are

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<v Speaker 2>all very very winnable games. I find it hard to

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<v Speaker 2>believe that we're not looking at at least a ten

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<v Speaker 2>and two Florida team. And yes, depending on what happens

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<v Speaker 2>elsewhere around the SEC East, you could probably make a

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<v Speaker 2>case that this is a contending team. They've recruited well.

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<v Speaker 2>If the offense can take more strides forward. Given what

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Moull did last year having to start Kyle Trask

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<v Speaker 2>on short notice, slowly built that offense up around him,

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<v Speaker 2>There's an awful lot to like there, favorable schedule, good

1:16:47.160 --> 1:16:50.400
<v Speaker 2>talent level. If things break in their direction, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a steal, could be potentially a steal.

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<v Speaker 1>Another haunting empty stadium swamp. Oh god, wow, that would

1:16:57.920 --> 1:17:01.080
<v Speaker 1>be difficult to watch, but I'll happily do it. I

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<v Speaker 1>will happily watch college football if it means empty stadiums,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay. Yeah, I think you laid it out pretty well.

1:17:07.479 --> 1:17:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I think they lost probably too many game changes on defense.

1:17:11.520 --> 1:17:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I think there's intriguing dudes, young red shirting whatever that

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<v Speaker 1>could come in and immediately play an interesting role on defense.

1:17:19.120 --> 1:17:21.360
<v Speaker 1>And I think they have an offensive problem problem. I

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<v Speaker 1>love Kyle Trask. I think he is a really impressive quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>probably the best guy in the SEC returning, and I

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<v Speaker 1>really like Kyle Pitts. But in terms of guys, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just really scared of either in the backfield or lining

1:17:35.640 --> 1:17:39.120
<v Speaker 1>up out wide. I'm not sure I see it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure I see it that's the case against but

1:17:41.960 --> 1:17:44.720
<v Speaker 1>they look to have double digitalent. I like their coordinators

1:17:44.800 --> 1:17:47.920
<v Speaker 1>at least I like Todd Grantham and Dan Mullen should

1:17:47.960 --> 1:17:50.040
<v Speaker 1>be calling the place. Maybe something has changed.

1:17:49.720 --> 1:17:49.880
<v Speaker 2>But.

1:17:51.400 --> 1:17:54.160
<v Speaker 1>There's way more to like about Florida than not and

1:17:54.240 --> 1:17:57.799
<v Speaker 1>getting LSU at home, getting probably an empty Tennessee stadium

1:17:57.840 --> 1:18:00.640
<v Speaker 1>on the road. It's great or to set up to

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<v Speaker 1>have a really, really impressive year, and they've they've closed

1:18:03.160 --> 1:18:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the gap against Georgia. They went from being completely out

1:18:05.880 --> 1:18:07.760
<v Speaker 1>of that game to losing by a touchdown. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good year to get Georgia.

1:18:10.120 --> 1:18:12.280
<v Speaker 2>This means that I have to try and defend Florida

1:18:12.320 --> 1:18:13.519
<v Speaker 2>State and Miami, doesn't it.

1:18:14.120 --> 1:18:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you can do it really quickly. You

1:18:16.120 --> 1:18:18.280
<v Speaker 1>don't have to spend a ton of time by apposition

1:18:18.360 --> 1:18:19.160
<v Speaker 1>groups and coaches.

1:18:19.640 --> 1:18:22.360
<v Speaker 2>I will say that of these two teams, Miami is

1:18:22.400 --> 1:18:26.320
<v Speaker 2>certainly the more interesting. Florida State's in transition. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of faith in Mike Norvell. I think he'll

1:18:28.520 --> 1:18:32.160
<v Speaker 2>do a good job in Tallahassee. But the Miami situation

1:18:32.280 --> 1:18:35.360
<v Speaker 2>is interesting because they you know, they made a big

1:18:35.360 --> 1:18:39.080
<v Speaker 2>deal dan enos last year and Tate Martell coming down

1:18:39.160 --> 1:18:40.040
<v Speaker 2>from Ohio State.

1:18:40.080 --> 1:18:43.360
<v Speaker 1>That didn't work. Yeah no, But they've now brought in

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<v Speaker 1>Rhett Lashley.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to change up the system again. They've added

1:18:47.360 --> 1:18:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Deeric King from Houston, who's an exciting player. They got

1:18:51.920 --> 1:18:54.120
<v Speaker 2>to improve their offensive line, but they've got a really

1:18:54.160 --> 1:18:57.439
<v Speaker 2>good pass rush, really really good pass rush. And now

1:18:57.680 --> 1:19:01.040
<v Speaker 2>the back half of the defense won't be as good.

1:19:01.640 --> 1:19:05.200
<v Speaker 2>But when you got that pass rush up front, that

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<v Speaker 2>pass rush, Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that Temple influence Quincy Manny dis you.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta feel pretty good about that. I'm looking at the schedule, now,

1:19:14.720 --> 1:19:21.080
<v Speaker 2>listen to this Temple Wagner UAB. On the road at

1:19:21.080 --> 1:19:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Michigan State, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Should win that game. You read schedules, Ty, You read

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<v Speaker 1>schedules like you're doing an audio book. Wagner UAB, You're great.

1:19:31.120 --> 1:19:32.519
<v Speaker 1>You have a talent that I'll never have.

1:19:32.960 --> 1:19:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Home against Pitt on the road at Wake, Home against

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina at UVA, Home against Florida State at Virginia Tech,

1:19:41.640 --> 1:19:43.759
<v Speaker 2>at Georgia Tech, and home against Duke.

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<v Speaker 1>They go twelve at oh I would have just cut

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<v Speaker 1>off at like, Hey, Derek King's exciting and they probably

1:19:52.800 --> 1:19:54.839
<v Speaker 1>have the best duo of defensive ends in the country,

1:19:54.840 --> 1:19:56.799
<v Speaker 1>and Greg Rossel and Quincy Rochek tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Me they couldn't go twelve and zero against the schedule.

1:20:00.080 --> 1:20:03.040
<v Speaker 1>They won't coach against the schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of problems in Miami. They can't protect

1:20:07.439 --> 1:20:11.160
<v Speaker 2>their quarterback. Derek King's just going to sail too many mistakes.

1:20:11.400 --> 1:20:18.160
<v Speaker 2>He's a defense. Yeah, work with me here, Okay, I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what rad Lashley will be saying to

1:20:21.240 --> 1:20:23.760
<v Speaker 2>the offensive line coach at some point this year. I

1:20:23.800 --> 1:20:26.280
<v Speaker 2>also am not a huge like RHT Lashley, as I

1:20:26.280 --> 1:20:28.880
<v Speaker 2>think built up his reputation somewhat going to coach for

1:20:29.000 --> 1:20:32.680
<v Speaker 2>head coaches who are already the offensive mastermind of their

1:20:32.680 --> 1:20:36.040
<v Speaker 2>team and gusmels On and recently Sunny Dykes at SMU.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope he's good. I just I'm not sold,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Dan, Well, here's what we got.

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<v Speaker 2>I have Ohio State in Washington, Boom Killers, LSU and

1:20:47.160 --> 1:20:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Penn State. I have Clemson in Michigan, and I have

1:20:52.160 --> 1:20:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Florida Florida State in Miami. And for you, you have

1:20:58.360 --> 1:21:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Alabama and an m the Ranchione Farm which is the

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<v Speaker 2>best name, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia and USC Texas in Notre Dame. I love this.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, hell yeah. Well look, think if Texas beats Oklahoma,

1:21:10.439 --> 1:21:14.360
<v Speaker 1>think about it, thank about it. Even if they lose,

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<v Speaker 1>tell us you twelve and one and winning the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a pretty good position. Got Oklahoma there last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got Oklahoma and Auburn. Yeah sugreat greathearts. So

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