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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal ull that for me, I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for a day? Edith State is that? Woo woo?

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Speaker 2: And Dan and Tie, welcome back to the solid verbal

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Speaker 2: boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildenbrandt, joining me

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Speaker 2: as always, yet still way over there in sunny southern

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Speaker 2: California amid the June gloom. His name is Dan Rubinstein, Sir,

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Speaker 2: how are you you know? Ty?

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Speaker 1: It is sunny outside right now in California, sunny as ever,

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Speaker 1: but inside in this literal closet that I am still

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Speaker 1: the Claw office is still where I'm recording on the

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Speaker 1: news feed in front of me, I'm seeing a lot

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Speaker 1: of that June gloom. Tie, Can you give me I

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Speaker 1: forget who sings it? Can you tell me something good

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Speaker 1: because I'm really I'm needing it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it wouldn't be about college football, nor about

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Speaker 2: a Corona virus, right, nor about a lot of what's

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Speaker 2: going on out there in the world. We do have

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Speaker 2: some news tidbits that we're going to go through, as

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Speaker 2: and I guess the good thing that I would say

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Speaker 2: is that we're we're going to assume, for the purposes

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Speaker 2: college football season, and we got a fun game that

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Speaker 2: we're going to play.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited about that. Ty. Not only do we

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Speaker 1: have a fun game that we're going to play. Maybe

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Speaker 1: this is just a tease, but I did something that

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Speaker 1: I haven't done in literal days. I took a shower WHOA,

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Speaker 1: me interesting way to frame how we evaluate what we're

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Speaker 1: going to evaluate in this game. That's a tease. Let's

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Speaker 2: We don't know what form this is all gonna take on,

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Speaker 1: Dan, Yeah, that's the plan. Boo boo boo boop.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So this may not be a news bullet per se,

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Speaker 2: different feel. We have been going for a while with

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Speaker 2: We're confident there's going to be something. I think to

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Speaker 2: but the mood. Is it fair to say the mood

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know pessimistic. I guess is sort of

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Speaker 2: Twenty three Clemson players testing positive. That mayor of Clemson

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Speaker 1: Not especially. I think all of these schools came into

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Speaker 1: I don't know that any school has offered a magic number. Now,

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Speaker 2: While to that end, thirty UCLA players have demanded protections

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Speaker 2: I read to you from the La Times. The document,

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Speaker 2: So this is thirty UCLA players getting behind a document.

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Speaker 2: Some of their demands are a third party health official

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Speaker 2: protocols for virus prevention are being followed, that anonymous whistleblower

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Speaker 1: Dan. Yeah, And there was a clarification that I thought

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Speaker 1: it's not about Chip specifically, it's about where the UCLA

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Speaker 1: But they were very clear that it was just a

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Speaker 1: It seems that UCLA they hadn't really met with each

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Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent scary stuff. And I don't blame

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Speaker 1: there and take risks more so than usual, because we're

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Speaker 1: In Yeah, I have not read anything yet by certainly

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Speaker 2: Where shall we go next? Do you want to get

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Speaker 2: Now, what I don't like about this game. What I

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Speaker 2: what we got. Here's how our pairings are are shaping up.

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Speaker 2: We've got the free do you want it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Of course I wanted the whole show.

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Speaker 2: We just looped Alabama and A and M the so

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Speaker 2: Jones junction literation there, Dan, can't you say?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Ohio State and Washington recent Rosie ranch more literation.

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Speaker 1: Are you crazy? Why not? Why not Texas and Notre Dame?

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Speaker 2: You called it eighteen wheel warehouse. I didn't like it

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Speaker 1: This is the best one. Thank you, Oh Klahoma and Auburn,

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Speaker 1: the Sugary Sweethearts, that's cute. Twenty seventeen Sugar Bowl. You

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Speaker 2: I do bed People's Court music, Clemson and Michigan, the

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Speaker 1: In Miami, that trio rounding out Florida. Mind. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna do is if you I mean, I'll

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Speaker 1: Texas and Notre Dame, you feel like the National Championship

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Speaker 1: win the national championship, but who did a better job

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Speaker 1: ty like, look, that's a tough ask to defend Texas

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Speaker 2: Tie. Okay, a lot of bs going to be coming

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Speaker 1: I hope you're ready to do okay. And the other

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Speaker 1: Say Ohio State wins the national championship, they are the

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Speaker 1: you three beers. I'll buy you three tacos. I'll buy

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Speaker 1: As long as it's not a hair bet, I'm fine

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Speaker 1: national championship draft. I will come up with a more

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Speaker 1: like blue Chip Blue Championship. But it's workshop. Take that

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Speaker 2: With my first overall pick. We get so much mileage

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Speaker 1: Chot so much it makes me feel great.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not crazy about Michigan, but it's hard

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take both Clemson and Michigan. Let me

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Speaker 1: What you got to sell? It sell me. I don't

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Speaker 2: You on is why Michigan will not win the national

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Speaker 1: You're not so supposed to do that?

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Speaker 2: Show I could do whatever I damn well, please, all right,

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Speaker 2: I'm taking here, sir, sir Michigan's got questions at quarterback,

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Speaker 2: They're not there yet. I don't know what they'll get

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Speaker 1: So I mean, now I have to make the case

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Speaker 2: Right now, you've given Michigan fans more joy than they've

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's a certain degree of continuity, and

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Speaker 1: But Michigan is fine. I've got Michigan. Look, Wisconsin and

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Speaker 1: they're pretty good. I need problems if I'm holding up hardware.

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Speaker 1: Travis etn JK. Dobbins Hilaires. They're probably do a college

433
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Speaker 1: football podcast. You think about this stuff in the shower.

434
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Speaker 1: All right, I can be done with Michigan. Can we

435
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Speaker 1: be done with Michigan? Please? All right? Make make a

436
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Speaker 1: Clemson case. Be positive.

437
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: Now, I'm very positive. I'm very bullish on Clemson. One

438
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: to three favorites. I believe to with Ohio State atop

439
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 2: the latest Vegas polls or Vegas odds.

440
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is probably going to.

441
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Speaker 2: Win the Heisman, maybe him or Justin Fields, but he's

442
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: certainly in the conversation. He's also going to have some

443
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: competition from his own backfield with Travis Etn who I

444
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 2: think burrowed some brows by saying he's coming back.

445
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, big deal.

446
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: Amari Rodgers is going to have to pull a little

447
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 2: bit more weight in that receiving core now that Justin

448
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: Ross is going to be out with his own health issues,

449
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 2: and of course they had t Higgins move on to

450
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: the NFL. They've got a cavalcade of playmakers. It's been

451
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Speaker 2: a thing at Clemson. In case you haven't noticed. They

452
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Speaker 2: do have some questions on their offensive line, but they

453
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Speaker 2: recruited very well there. Their defense should be really good.

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Speaker 1: In the front four. And we've seen what Clemson can do,

455
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: and they've got a really good front for haven't we. Yeah,

456
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Speaker 1: we have the back seven.

457
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 2: More questions about the back seven, thankfully though, Brent Venables

458
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: is a guy who knows how to build up defense. Sure,

459
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the schedule, I'm looking at this team.

460
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at another run through the playoffs, another run

461
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Speaker 2: into that national championship game. I feel very confident. I

462
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Speaker 2: feel very confident Dan that this is one of the

463
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Speaker 2: final two teams standing at the end of all of this,

464
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Speaker 2: assuming they can get by the Notre Dame fighting.

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Speaker 1: Ours should talk about a little bit later. I mean,

466
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Speaker 1: that's the huge hurdle because it's in South Bend, right

467
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Speaker 1: in South Bend. It's in so huge. I think they

468
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Speaker 1: have problems in a good way on both sides. I'm

469
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Speaker 1: gonna have to qualify that throughout the show. Did you

470
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Speaker 1: find these while in the shower the Clemson good problems? Yeah?

471
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Speaker 1: I did not find that. This is all a Michigan

472
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Speaker 1: shower Michigan right, Okay. There are pieces on all three

473
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Speaker 1: levels of Clemson's defense that I like a lot, especially

474
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Speaker 1: when you look at their incoming recruiting class. The justin

475
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Speaker 1: Ross loss is a huge hit, even though they've developed

476
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Speaker 1: receivers perhaps better than any other school. You know, Dabos

477
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: Sweeney's background makes it so. And Travis CTN is you know,

478
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: you give them an inch, you're given up a mile.

479
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: So the case is really difficult against Clemson. But what

480
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Speaker 1: we've seen from Clemson almost annually is that yearly lapse,

481
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Speaker 1: that brain fart Saturday, whether it was North Carolina and

482
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Speaker 1: allowing the tar Heels to control the ball, whether it

483
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: was NC State, whether it's pit whoever. That it's tough

484
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Speaker 1: sometimes when you are so far ahead of the pack,

485
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Speaker 1: no pun intended to keep your focus all year long,

486
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: no matter the success you've had and because of and

487
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: I still think the ACC is getting better, but not

488
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: anywhere near as deep as it needs to be to

489
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Speaker 1: be getting respect from me and probably you. If they

490
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Speaker 1: have that slip up this year, even if it's against

491
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Speaker 1: a good notreed aime team, they're going to be dinged

492
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Speaker 1: more so than other teams, thus making their path harder.

493
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Speaker 1: And we've seen it in a lot of seasons that

494
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Speaker 1: a clear playoff worthy team is left out just because

495
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: of a week of lapsing. So that to me, is

496
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: the case against Clemson that because they're so thoroughly deep everywhere,

497
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, they lose a huge problem in Isaiah Tim

498
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: Simmons in a good way on defense, who is so

499
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: do everything. But I'm not worried, particularly about a brand

500
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: Venable's defense right now that that's going to be an

501
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: actual issue. So I think your case is strong. That's

502
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: the only way I see them being left out. That

503
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: they are just an extraordinary eleven and one twelve and one,

504
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: but everything just broke unluckily for them.

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Speaker 2: Interesting game in Week two against Louisville kille Cunningham. Okay,

506
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: it is your selection, Dan, I have selected to and Michigan.

507
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: I'd really like to be fun, but my cases against

508
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: so many players just are hanging on my head. I'm

509
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: going to take Alabama and Texas A and M almost.

510
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know that I'm going to make the

511
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: case for Texas A and M which is difficult tie,

512
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: but I play the game. I buy in sure. So

513
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: the case for Alabama is pretty straightforward. The most talented

514
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: team in the country. They are going to be a

515
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: lot healthier upfront on defense than they were last year.

516
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: They should, I believe get Dylan Moses back at a

517
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: certain high rate of play. The schedule is, you know what,

518
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: it is trickier than usual, But they've earned a benefit

519
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 1: of the doubt that I don't think anybody has. They

520
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: have USC on a neutral site, as at least by

521
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: the time we're talking, they do. They have Georgia during

522
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: the regular season, which is great, but it's in Tuscaloosas

523
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: that's nice for them. They've got to buy between their

524
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: two toughest road games in the conference, and that's at

525
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: Tennessee at LSU, and they finish against Texas A and

526
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: M and Auburn. The case for is that they have

527
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Speaker 1: one of the best five running backs in the country,

528
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Speaker 1: maybe one of the best ten players in the country,

529
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Speaker 1: a Heisman candidate in Najie Harris. They still have DeVante

530
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Speaker 1: Smith and Jalen Waddle, and even though the secondary looks

531
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: to be pretty new, they don't really have seasons that

532
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: you can point to where you can say, man, you

533
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: could just throw on Alabama Nick Saban. This is what

534
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: he does. He transforms and develops and identifies quality defensive backs.

535
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: So I'm dancing around the quarterback thing because sometimes it

536
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: just doesn't matter. They won a national championship with Jake Koker,

537
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: who is fine. Mac Jones is at least fine. Bryce Young,

538
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: while a true freshman, looks like he'll develop into something

539
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: probably special. Now will he be that guy in September

540
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: if he wins the job. I don't know that Georgia

541
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: defense looks like it's really really good, But just in

542
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: terms of what we've seen in the last decade, Alabama

543
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: and the odds feels pretty smart. Make your case against

544
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Speaker 1: Alabama right now.

545
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: I don't have a good case against Alabama.

546
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: I guess you're killing me here.

547
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: You're killing me well if you were trying to, if

548
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 2: you were trying to establish one. I guess you can

549
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: point to inexperience on the defense maybe maybe sure picking

550
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: them apart though, but you're splitting hairs here.

551
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: They're just so good. They're so good across the board.

552
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: The Mac Jones Bryce Young thing, I think will be

553
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,239
Speaker 2: a question, right, what's the offense going to look like?

554
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: That's tough to say, but I think you hit it.

555
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: In either case. We have seen Nick Saban thrive both

556
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: with and without a dynamic dual threat quarterback, especially when

557
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: he's got a beast offensive line and a running back

558
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: like Naji.

559
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 1: Harris, which they do.

560
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: The line is great, which they do, and they've got

561
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: receivers out wide. They will find ways to put up points.

562
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: There's not a doubt in my mind. Defensively, I guess

563
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: the only thing that there is some inexperience, but they're

564
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: just so good the level of talent there. Again, this

565
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: is the top blue chip ratio team at eighty three percent,

566
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Speaker 2: so I think they're they're doing just fine. The schedule

567
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: is interesting to me. It features USC, a team that

568
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: we're going to discuss here.

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Speaker 1: It features that's the clear reason. I think that's the

570
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: clear reason to pick against them.

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00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Georgia in Week three early on against a really

572
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: good defense. As you said, there are road spots at Tennessee,

573
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: at LSU, and then later in the year home against

574
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: A and M, who we're going to talk about momentarily

575
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: and Auburn. It's an SEC West schedule. They do get Georgia,

576
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: they add in USC. This is not a Clemson schedule,

577
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: you know, and no disrespect to Clemson, but this is

578
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: an SEC West schedule.

579
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Speaker 1: They got to play two of the three best teams

580
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Speaker 1: in the East. We got a tough draw with Georgia,

581
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: and they tack on USC as well.

582
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Speaker 2: So I guess that would be the case that you

583
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: could find a slip up there on the Alabama side

584
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: of things.

585
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: You can find two slip ups you could find. You

586
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: could see Georgia and going to Baton Rouge if if

587
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: LSU is still pretty good, which I think they will

588
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: be on offense anyway with terras Marshall and mar Chase,

589
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: those are problems. Die those are big time problems. So

590
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: going to Baton Rouge even after a bye they both

591
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: have that bye week and having Georgia, they could have

592
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: a very successful ten and two season and not even

593
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: end up in the playoffs.

594
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: Can I can I ask you about your handcuff in

595
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: this selection A and M. You want the case if

596
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: I swapped out TCU for A and M this year,

597
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: would you think less of me?

598
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: Oh? I'd much rather have A and M on TCU?

599
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: What is with you in TCU? I just I've had

600
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: a hard time quitting TCU. You know how it is?

601
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: Do you should? We like have our pal Marshall who

602
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: played at TCU Marshall Newhouse, so you can just say

603
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: tell me frog stories. Yeah, that's right.

604
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: I have a hard tuitting TCU, but I feel like

605
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: it's easier if I stay in the Great State of Texas.

606
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: Give me the case four and against A and M.

607
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Mike Elco is one of the absolute best defensive

608
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: coordinators in the country. You saw the step they took

609
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: forward on defense last year the Aggies. You look at

610
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: their schedule, it was a murderer's role last year. You

611
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: look at their skeed this year. I am not going

612
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: as bullish as you would went with Nebraska and their

613
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: ability to potentially start seven to zero. I'm saying non zero,

614
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: nine and one or ten and oh start for Texas,

615
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: A and M. They have four straight first year coaches

616
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: and I don't remember the exact order, but in Colorado, Arkansas,

617
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: Fresno State, and Mississippi State early on five overall because

618
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: they also have Lanekiffen on their schedule, and that includes

619
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Speaker 1: trips to Auburn and two South Carolina. I believe in

620
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: successive weeks, but this was a team that got that's

621
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: just sort of out ugly Auburn in a losing effort

622
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: last year. South Carolina is doable. I think they'll have

623
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: a better offense with Mike Bobo, but even traveling to Columbia.

624
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a winnable game, and they've

625
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: recruited well enough that some gaps can be filled by

626
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: four and five star guys, especially on defense. Now they're

627
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: going to need to rush the pass or better. The

628
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: offensive line needs to be a lot more consistent, and

629
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Speaker 1: obviously biggest of all Kellen Mond, who does play up

630
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: to big games times, you know, especially with his legs.

631
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Speaker 1: We saw the near win against Clemson a couple of

632
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: years ago. He's played well against Alabama. If Kellen Mond

633
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: can string together in year thirteen of his time at

634
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: Texas A and M a top four season in the SEC.

635
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: Quarterback wise, he's a fishing. He doesn't give the ball back.

636
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: He you know, guts out third and seven's with his

637
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: legs to keep drives going. I understand the case. It's

638
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: a good year to get LSU because we don't know

639
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: anything about what they're going to be Miles Brennan wise,

640
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: and you know, I think they're gonna be excellent on

641
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: defense with bow Polini. But it's a good year. If

642
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: any year is to come, it's a good year to

643
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: get them. So I'm going to ride the recruiting and

644
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: Mike Elco to say, we're going to fill in some gaps,

645
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: We're going to take advantage of inexperienced sidelines early on,

646
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: and we're just going to pile up small victories and

647
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: then suddenly we're sitting at nine and one or ten

648
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: and zero. That's the case for all right. The case

649
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: against the.

650
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 2: Case against them is that they're in the SEC West,

651
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: and sure, while I think they've got a decent enough

652
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: quarterback and Kellen Mond. Talked a lot about Kellen Mond

653
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: last year and how it was really all on his shoulders.

654
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 1: He didn't get much help. I think he's decent enough.

655
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: The argument against A and M is that he's not

656
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: nearly decent enough to beat someone like Trevor Lawrence or

657
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: Justin Fields in a national championship. I could make the

658
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: case that A and M could start ten and oh.

659
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if I truly believe it, like I

660
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 2: believe Nebraska seven and zero, but I could make that case.

661
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: I'll make the case against Nebraska. Watch a Nebraska game.

662
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: Adam Christian North Texas, Colorado, Arkansas, neutral site, Mississippi, Staten

663
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: Starkville going to be difficult. Fresno at Auburn at South

664
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: Carolina by Ole, Miss Vandy at Bama and LSU at

665
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: home at Kyle Field to end the season.

666
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I could make that case for ten and zero.

667
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 2: The schedule's nice. They've got the veteran QB and Mond.

668
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: The issue I see is that he needs help around him,

669
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: you know, like, who are the vertical charts? Can they

670
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: block up front? Can they rush the pass?

671
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: Problem? Problem? Is that what you're saying. I think that's

672
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think that's what I'm saying. The

673
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: problem problem. It could be Jimbo Fisher. The problem problem could.

674
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 2: Be the recruiting class that he has turned in the

675
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: last couple of years. He's done a really good job there.

676
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: But as for that one playmaker, one or two playmakers,

677
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: and I.

678
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: Don't know who that is. Yeah, and I don't know

679
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: the problem.

680
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: I don't think Kellen Mond can turn into that guy.

681
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: We know a lot about what he is already, and

682
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: I think it's asking an awful lot to expect that

683
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 2: he is suddenly going to turn into this ultra efficient

684
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 2: passer who is very responsible with the football. Just doesn't

685
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: seem like that's the direction this is going to go be.

686
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: I would love to be puzzling surprised, but it would

687
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: definitely be a surprise.

688
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: I worked you through an exercise. It's a weird way

689
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: of phrasing what I'm about to say. I worked you

690
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: through an exercise saying if if the Aggie's had the

691
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: best fourth best SEC quarterback of the past decade or so,

692
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: if it's you know, so, like who is the best

693
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: fourth best during a specific season quarterback? You know Tyler Wilson,

694
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: Nick Marshall, Brandon Allen, Connor Shaw, guys like that who

695
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: are definitely pretty good, dependable, just not killers. Does that

696
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: vault Texas A and M to a different strata? And

697
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: so you know Kyle Shermer. Do those names move the

698
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: needle for you enough to say now I think differently

699
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: about Texas A and M if.

700
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: Kyle Shermer were the quarterback at A and M and

701
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: not Kellen mand Is that what you're asking?

702
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: Right? Who has Kyle Shermer really did not win or

703
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: perform admirably in huge Vanderbilt games, but you put up

704
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: nice numbers? I think, oh, man, that's impossible. I don't know.

705
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: I don't know.

706
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: I still think the question remains. You like Melko though, right,

707
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: I do like my Irish heart, I do. The question

708
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: remains about the help though. It doesn't matter what quarterback

709
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: you put in there. Tell me about the help Tell

710
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: me who's running the rock. Tell me who the vertical

711
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 2: threats are? None of those guys for the helpers? Yeah,

712
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: who are the helpers? One of those guys who's rushing

713
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: the passer?

714
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: Right?

715
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: These are questions that I have, regardless of who the

716
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: quarterback is.

717
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: Do you want to make a selection a new path?

718
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: I think? Now? Do you get too in a row?

719
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: Are we doing this fantasy draft?

720
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: Oh?

721
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: We're snaking it. It's up to you. Yeah, I'm you

722
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: made the game. No, you know what? No, I didn't

723
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: say that as we started. So this the pick goes

724
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: to you. It says right here, fantasy snakes. Yeah.

725
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: In the rules that you wrote up, my and Dan

726
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: will conduct a snake style fantasy draft of teams.

727
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 1: In the pool of teams, can I make a selection?

728
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: Who do you got? I'm going to take the Jarvis

729
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: Jones junction? Ty whoa Georgia? Georgia usc Jarvis Jones transferring

730
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: transferring to the Dogs from the Trojans. The case for

731
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: Georgia is somewhat straightforward, though it does have its limitations.

732
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: The case for Georgia is Kirby Smart and his staff

733
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: and that program. They've amassed an absurd amount of talent,

734
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: especially on defense. Dan Lanning, I thought did a great

735
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: job last year as he stepped into the role coordinating

736
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: the defense, especially upfront, especially in the meat of that defense.

737
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: They're going to get after the quarterback. They're going to

738
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: collapse pockets. There are no shortage of problems good problems

739
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: on that Georgia defense. Offensively is actually where my question is,

740
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: even though people seem to be pretty bullish because of

741
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: the combination of Jamie Newman and new offensive coordinator Todd Mounkin,

742
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: they don't have any time together. Ty No, they didn't

743
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,479
Speaker 1: practice over the spring, and it's something we talked about

744
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: I talked about with Joe Morehead, which is what are

745
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: offenses going to look like with new coordinators when they

746
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: don't have time to sort of see what they have

747
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: both in their returning players and in the case of Georgia,

748
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: what do they have in this transfer in Jamie Newman.

749
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: He's a very different kind of quarterback than what they've

750
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: done recently. A lot of RPO stuff. He runs a

751
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: lot he's extremely talented, but they don't have time. They

752
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: don't have time with him. The good news is they're

753
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: surrounding him with good problems ty George Pickens, Demetrius Robertson good.

754
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: But it'll be a new offensive line. But they've recruited

755
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: there really well should be as a mere white in

756
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: the backfield, former number one running back who's had injury issues.

757
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: But there's enough there even without their killers in the

758
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: backfield recently with Nick Chubb and Sony Michelle and DeAndre

759
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: Swift that all of their offensive issues probably won't be

760
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: solved because of the introducing Jamie Newman and Todd Monkin

761
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: really quickly. But you look at what they look like

762
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: after or because during and after the South Carolina game

763
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: last year, they weren't scoring thirty points. I don't think

764
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: they did until Georgia Tech with that much talent. So

765
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: that's the case against and also they traveled to Alabama

766
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: and you can hop on this little bit more. I'm

767
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: doing your work for you. The middle of their schedule

768
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: is trappy. I don't know if you have it in

769
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: front of you. I do, but it's Georgia has been

770
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: a troubling October team. These past couple of years, so that,

771
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: to me would be my concern. But I think the

772
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: case is strong that there's just so much in so

773
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: many places on both sides of the ball.

774
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's so hard to split hairs with Georgia.

775
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: You love the talent level, I absolutely am with you.

776
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: I love the defense. They're completely loaded back there. Offensively,

777
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: I've been reading the same optimism. I want to feel optimistic.

778
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: I want to feel more confident.

779
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: But to your point, Jamie Newman, Todd Monkin, there's a

780
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: lot there that remains to be seen. What will this

781
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: offense look like. There's also a lot of turnover all

782
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: on the offensive line, sure, which is troubling in the SEC.

783
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the schedule now, there are four true

784
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: road games.

785
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: That's it.

786
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 2: There are a couple neutral siders, but for true road games.

787
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: And you mentioned that stretch in October. Start off the

788
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: month with Vandy at home, then they get Auburn at home.

789
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,479
Speaker 2: Then they go to Missouri, which is a weird place

790
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 2: to play.

791
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. Now we look ahead week before the

792
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: bye yeah.

793
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: Bye week before the Florida game in Jacksonville, and then

794
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: there is what I think could be a weird letdown

795
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: look ahead spot on the road in Columbia, South Carolina

796
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: against the South Carolina game Cocks before coming back home

797
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: to square off against Tennessee.

798
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think they'll look past it after losing

799
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: last year. It's certainly a revenge spot, but that is

800
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: a hell of a sandwich.

801
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: Definitely some letdown potential there, depending on the way the

802
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: Florida game goes. Because Florida is another team on our

803
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 2: list and they should be pretty solid as well. It's

804
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: an interesting schedule. I think it's well balanced all throughout.

805
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: They do need to get through that middle portion. I

806
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: like the fact that they get Alabama early. Alabama's got

807
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 2: some questions. We talked about Alabama not that many, but

808
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: what's the offense look like? Some questions elsewhere that they

809
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: need to answer. I like the fact that George has

810
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: got a rock solid defense and they've got the Crimson

811
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: tider early. I think that works to their advantage. I

812
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,479
Speaker 2: like this pick a lot, I really do. I thought

813
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 2: about going with this if I had the opportunity to

814
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: steal them off the back of a truck if you didn't.

815
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: But the one.

816
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: That I'm most interested in, actually yeah, of this pairing

817
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: is not Georgia but USC.

818
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: This is listen. I'm I'm putting myself out there because

819
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: we've enjoyed making fun of USC and hype for USC

820
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: and expectations for USC each and every year. And next

821
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: year is the year. Next year is the year. The

822
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 1: case is pretty straightforward for USC. They returned the best

823
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: quarterback in the conference. It's a good place to start, Tye.

824
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: Keaton's Loovas is the best returning quarterback in the Pac twelve.

825
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: And there are other guys who are talented. Nobody accomplished

826
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: what he accomplished. Nobody don't think has the ceiling that

827
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: he does. The best of Keaton Slovas is the clear

828
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: highest in the conference right now. The talent up front

829
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: on defense, I like j Twu Felly, I like Drake.

830
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: I always forget Drake Jackson. I think Drake Jackson is

831
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman. Drake London is the pass catcher. I

832
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: like Drake Jackson. I like Pollier. I'll get it right

833
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: by the season. Not Taeote. I like him at linebacker.

834
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: The secondary's experience. Todd Orlando I still think is a

835
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: good defensive coordinator, but I don't think he was right

836
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: for what ailed Texas last season. I like Graham Harrell

837
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: a lot. Their schedule sucks, it's what kind of sucks

838
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: that's the case against. But even still, it's a Utah

839
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: team that's always pretty good and it's on the road

840
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: in Salt Lake. I always like picking against pretty decent

841
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 1: teams with some hype going to Salt Lake City because

842
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: that's just it's where pretty good teams go to die

843
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: and get exposed. They're traveling to Eugene early on in November.

844
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: Washington is back at home. They're on the road against Ucla,

845
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: but not really because it's with in La and then

846
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: they finished with Notre Dame at home. It's a tough schedule,

847
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: but the receivers, the defront on defense, the coaching upgrade

848
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: I think. I think. I still think to Orlando is

849
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: an upgrade to Clancy Pendergast in twenty twenty. So that's

850
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: the case right now is for a somewhat open Pac

851
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: twelve South. Their road to the Pack twelve championship game,

852
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: if there is one, is not terribly bumpy. I hate

853
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: going to Utah, but other than that, yeah, you can

854
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: make a good Keaton Slovis factor is you get to

855
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: early December, anything can happen. Perhaps that's the case to me.

856
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 2: See, I mean the move last year to the air

857
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: raid was something that I know we spent a lot

858
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: of timeline and I think looking back now, you have

859
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 2: to look back at it, and the injury to JT.

860
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: Daniels was unfortunate. But finding Keaton slovas a true freshman,

861
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 2: there's a huge win for Clay Hilton. Installing that air

862
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 2: raid and getting as much out of it as they

863
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: did a huge win. That offense should be dynamic again

864
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: this year. It's not just clear that quarterback room. By

865
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 2: the way, did you see that? I see they cleared

866
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 2: it up, but Matt Think is still there. Matt Think

867
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: might be a professor at this point. He's in like

868
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: his ninth year of eligibility. He never left. No, he's

869
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: gonna get the memo. Okay, he's the backup. But my

870
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: point here on the offense is just that it's not Slovas.

871
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: It's not just Slovs.

872
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 2: They've got a good line in front of him, They've

873
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: got good receivers out wide. I think they'll be dynamic defensively.

874
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 2: It's a mixed bag. It's a mixed bag. I don't

875
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: know if we know what to expect. I do agree

876
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: that Todd Orlando is an upgrade, but trying to come

877
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: in and fix things, especially in this day and age

878
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: with the coronavirus and practices being canceled and maybe not

879
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: being able to work as much with the team as

880
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 2: he would like.

881
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: It's tough to say. It's tough to say.

882
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 2: I'm really intrigued by USC, and I was pleasantly surprised

883
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: when I went in and did some quick research on

884
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 2: them going into twenty twenty. I honestly found myself excited

885
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: to see what this team turns into.

886
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: If we had said three years ago that USC got

887
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: Todd Orlando to run their defense, everybody's super pumped.

888
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: Right, I would think, so, yeah, okay, because you have

889
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: both Alabama and Georgia.

890
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I'm in a bit of somebody.

891
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: I'm in a bit of a defensive spot here, and

892
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: I need to go to Ohio State and Washington the

893
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: so called recent Rosie Ranch Dan.

894
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeh. Playing the rose ball a couple years ago.

895
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: It is hard to bet against a team with Justin Fields.

896
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: I really like Ohio State. I like what Ryan Day

897
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: did a year ago. Let me start by making the

898
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: case against Ohio State.

899
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: Wait, this is very confusing for me. So this now

900
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 1: I have to make the case for. No.

901
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna make both cases. I'm gonna play both

902
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: sides of this coin.

903
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: I gave you the rules up front. I am making

904
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: my own rules. Is my show.

905
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an awful lot of turnover here, there is.

906
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: I cannot make the case for without first acknowledging that

907
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 2: there's somewhat of a case against because the secondary got crushed.

908
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: They got turnover along the defensive line, at wide receiver end,

909
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: at running back.

910
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

911
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: You look at this team, there's a lot there that

912
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 2: remains to be answered. But you start with justin fields.

913
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty damn good starting point. You

914
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: look around the roster, up and down that roster. Yes,

915
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: there are guys leaving, but god of their guys coming in.

916
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: This is a really, really good Ohio State team. As

917
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 2: I look at this schedule, Dan, of course, they've got

918
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 2: some games on there that I think are notable, particularly

919
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: in mid to late October. They got a Michigan State

920
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: game that I think in recent years might look a

921
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: little bit more formidable.

922
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: But they've got a new sandwich there. Huh.

923
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows what direction that game's gonna head. They

924
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: do go to Beaver Stadium October twenty fourth. That's been

925
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: a tough place for them to play. But outside of that,

926
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: Dan and maybe that Oregon game. What do you mean,

927
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 2: maybe that organ maybe that Oregon game. Oregon's like the

928
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: number five team in the country.

929
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: New quarterback. Don't know what's going on at Oudson at

930
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: Autsin in front of a probable empty stadium. Probable empty stadium. Yeah,

931
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: I think the schedule works out okay.

932
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: Otherwise Bowling Green, Buffalo, Rutgers, Iowa, Nebraska, Indiana at Maryland

933
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: at Illinois.

934
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: And then a home game against Michigan.

935
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: There are land mines there a schedule.

936
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you just said the word Iowa,

937
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: like you didn't watch the game from two years ago.

938
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 2: I just I feel like it's well balanced. I feel

939
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: like it sets up okay for them. It's just so

940
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: hard to go against justin field. Right now, Ohio State

941
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 2: is a one to three co favorite to win the

942
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: national championship, and despite all that turnover, you still you

943
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: still have to feel really good about their chances to

944
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: go and certainly make it through the Big Ten, but

945
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 2: also make it back into that playoff.

946
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna light a candle right now because

947
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna set the mode, because I want you to

948
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: make that sweet, sweet case for national championship Washington Osky football.

949
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: All Right, hold on, it's getting sentual in here. I

950
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: don't I don't have I don't know if you have

951
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: LEX steels drop or anything like that. Do I have?

952
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: Of course I have LEX. You know that I always

953
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: have Lex. All Right, Ty, I'm getting a little steamy

954
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: in this, Clowice, make the case for national champion Washington.

955
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: New offensive coordinator John Donovan very dynamic in the NFL,

956
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: you can say with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Dan, Yeah, if

957
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 2: you're not familiar with his work, prepared to be dazzled.

958
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I am available for. I am available for

959
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm available.

960
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 2: For Counsel Husky. I am available for Council Husky fans.

961
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 2: FYI starting another jac in twenty twenty this time maybe

962
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: maybe maybe maybe Jacob's sermon, Yeah, could be the them

963
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 2: coming in.

964
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: For Jacob Eason. What else do we got here? Yeah?

965
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: I don't have much for Washington, Dan, I just wanted

966
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 2: to grab Ohio State.

967
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: Would you like me to make the case and you

968
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: want to make the case against them? Is that something

969
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: you want to do.

970
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a case for which is part

971
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: of my issue. I just wanted to have Clemson in

972
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: Ohio State on my roster, Lesz.

973
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: There is no real case for Washington as a national champion.

974
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: The best I can do, and I try to approach

975
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 1: all of these in earnest. They've recruited really well. They're

976
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: a blue chip ratio team TI. There's a good amount

977
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: of talent, especially on defense, really on all three levels,

978
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: actually along the line and in the secondary. I really

979
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: really like their secondary treent McDuffie and Elijah Molten, both

980
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: very very talented corners. Jimmy Lake has built a really

981
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: good defensive program at Washington. I imagine, like most defensive head coaches,

982
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: they're going to try to go ball control on offense

983
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: and John Donovan and ball control hand in hand. I

984
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 1: think they have a problem problem Outside of Puka Nakua,

985
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: I think is a good, really good wide receiver for

986
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: you dub Their schedule is nah great time schedule. They

987
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: open with Michigan, They're on the road, against Oregon, Utah

988
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: Cal USC and Wazoo. Has Jimmy Lake fielded a defense

989
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: that has lost to Wazoo? He has not. Has he

990
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 1: fielded a defense that has lost to Oregon Utah Cal? Yeah,

991
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: he has. He definitely has. So the case is if

992
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: they ride ball control and a defense and it's a

993
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: weird season because of no crowds. So it's a good

994
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: good year to have no crowd at Oregon if you're

995
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: on the road, and that's that's something. It's good year

996
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: to have no crowd in Salt Lake City. That's a

997
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: very tough place to play. I think that's the case

998
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: that they play smart, they ride their defense, and they

999
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: just they pile up w's. But that's a lot of ats, ty,

1000
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 1: it's a lot of ats. All right. I want to

1001
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 1: go to my next pick, if that's okay with you, Okay, okay,

1002
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: please do.

1003
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 2: Give me that Joe Brady bunch, give me Joe Brady Bunch.

1004
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: Take them.

1005
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 2: Let me start with Penn State. Penn State's the reason

1006
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: I'm taking this LSU and Penn State pairing. And I

1007
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: like LSU, but Penn State might be the sleeper. They're

1008
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: at seven to one right now, according to.

1009
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, to get to the playoff, not to win it all,

1010
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: to get in to the playoffs. Excuse me. Yeah.

1011
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: Kirk Shiraka coming over from Minnesota, new offensive coordinator. I

1012
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 2: love that hire. I think it's an outstanding higher. I

1013
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 2: like the line. I think the running backs are very capable.

1014
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 2: They're deep at running back. I don't know if John

1015
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 2: Dotson can step up and step in for kJ Hamler.

1016
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: That's sort of the main question offensively.

1017
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 2: But the bones are there. The bones are there. Sean Clifford.

1018
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,479
Speaker 2: I think Shiraka is going to get more out of him.

1019
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 2: He's a legit dual threat quarterback. He can do a lot.

1020
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: I think Shiraka can make the most of that situation. Defensively,

1021
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 2: they got some losses, but they got some big names

1022
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: coming back. They got Shock Tony and Jason Oway and

1023
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 2: Micah Parsons at linebacker, Tariq Castro fields, Lamont Wade all

1024
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 2: in the back. I said it before, I'll say it again.

1025
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 2: They got to give up fewer backbreaking pass plays. They

1026
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: got to get more out of their own passing game.

1027
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: But this is a team that I think is in

1028
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: a really, really good spot to maybe maybe be a surprise.

1029
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: I now have Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State out

1030
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: of the big ten eiees. So I'm gonna get somebody

1031
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 2: with the chance, somebody who's in the conversation come the

1032
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 2: latter half of the season.

1033
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: Penn State schedule this year is it's a good mix.

1034
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 2: I feel like it's the kind of schedule that you'd

1035
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 2: put together in the old NCAA fourteen video game series.

1036
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 2: You're trying to get that a plus in the scheduled

1037
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 2: department while not totally maiming yourself, right, and so it's

1038
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: well balanced. On the road at Virginia Tech, Week two

1039
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: will be a challenge again. Lane Stadium, maybe without people different.

1040
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: What's going to be the most haunting empty stadium. It's like, Oh,

1041
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 1: that's so weird to look at fully empty, fully devoid

1042
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: of fans. Wow, that's me. It might be Kyle Field.

1043
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna say the Michige so big, Yeah, Michigan, Yeah,

1044
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: is a good answer. Michigan actually looked really cool. The

1045
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: way that they've built the MM in the square m

1046
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: into the seats, that'll look at least look cool. Kyle

1047
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: Field without I know, people like to make fun of

1048
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: the sort of faux militariness of Texas A and M.

1049
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: But there's an energy about Texas A and M games

1050
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: that it's going to feel very weird to see fully,

1051
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: you know, vacuumed.

1052
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: On the road lane Stadium. Week two, they got San

1053
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: Jose State and Northwestern before going on the road to Michigan.

1054
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1055
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: Then they've got to buy. Then they have Iowa at home,

1056
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: which will totally be a trap game, before Ohio State

1057
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 2: at home, Correct at Indiana at Nebraska, Michigan State, Maryland

1058
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: at Rutgers to close out the year.

1059
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: That's a workable schedule. That's an awesome back half, which

1060
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: is also what people say about me in the shower tie.

1061
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: But that's an awesome back half. That's a workable schedule.

1062
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 2: So if Penn State can assemble the pieces I think

1063
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: primarily on offense and just make a few tweaks on defense,

1064
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 2: they're in a really really good spot here onto LSU.

1065
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: Can I say something about Penn State real quick? Sure can't.

1066
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: You can't get picked apart by Kirk Shiraka. If you

1067
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 1: hire Kirk, that's right, that's right. You can't. Dan taps

1068
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: his forehead. Hire him. If you can't beat him, hire them.

1069
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 1: I don't think they have any winter wonders on offense.

1070
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: That's the clear case. I actually know I should take

1071
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: that back. There's a lot of Journey Brown. I like

1072
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot about that, dude. I like a lot.

1073
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: But your Johan Dotson question, I like Baby Gronk, Pat

1074
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: friarm youth, But I worry about who's stretching the field

1075
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: against Michigan, Ohio State, Iowa. That to me is a

1076
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: huge question about Penn State because Michael Parsons on defense

1077
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: is see the best linebacker in the country. He's a

1078
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: top five draft pick. Yeah, easily. I think they're able

1079
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: to with an offensive step forward. I don't think they're

1080
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: getting to the playoff, but I think they become even

1081
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: more dangerous.

1082
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: You may ask about lsues. What does this team look

1083
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 2: like without Joe Burrow, without Joe Brady. What's it look

1084
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 2: like without Clyde Edwards, Hilaire and Justin Jefferson and four

1085
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: guys that need to be replaced along that offensive line.

1086
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: I don't have an answer for you. This is a

1087
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: team that went through a bit of a revolution last year.

1088
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: They caught liking in a bottle with Joe Burrow.

1089
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a fluke.

1090
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: I'm not implying that, but that combination of Brady and

1091
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: Burrow was one of the all time greatest offensive seasons

1092
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: we've ever seen. They outscored everybody. Joe Burrow had ridiculous numbers.

1093
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: They blew out their opponent in the National Championship game.

1094
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 2: This was clearly a once in a generation offense, once

1095
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: in a generation team.

1096
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: They deserved it.

1097
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: Moving on beyond that, it strikes me that there's still

1098
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 2: a lot of talent on this team. Awful lot of

1099
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: talent on this team. Even if, as you said, Miles

1100
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 2: Brennan is two thirds as good as what we saw

1101
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow do last season, that's still pretty damn good.

1102
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: That still gives you a chance in most of these

1103
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: games in the SEC. What I like about them is

1104
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 2: that they can rely on that defense.

1105
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say, Scott Linehan, Sorry, continue.

1106
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: I like that Bo Polini is back beaty. Oh love that.

1107
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 2: I like that he's back. I like that they're good

1108
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: up front. I love Derek Stingley in the back. There

1109
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: are questions at linebacker. There are questions at linebacker, and

1110
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 2: I got real questions about what happens when Texas comes

1111
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: to town in week two. But I still think this

1112
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 2: team is really well positioned. They've recruited so well. They're

1113
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 2: riding high here after winning that national championship. It does

1114
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: feel like they've got some momentum now at Orgeron realize

1115
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: the air of his ways and needed to make some

1116
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: changes on offense. We'll see if they carry over now

1117
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 2: post Joe Brady. But you have to feel awfully good

1118
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: about where this team is at, even despite all the losses.

1119
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: Dan, Yeah, I think they'll be good rushing the quarterback,

1120
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: even though that's a question. They're just they're going to

1121
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: be too talented on every level, especially on the inside

1122
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: of their defense. They've got a lot of beef the

1123
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: middle of that defense, so it's going to open things

1124
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: up everywhere else. I think you hit everything. They should

1125
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: be in a good place. And I actually want to

1126
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: change my answer. I think Death Valley is going to

1127
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: be the most haunting place empty. You got two back

1128
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:18,479
Speaker 1: to back picks here, Dan, Okay, I guess I'll take

1129
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: Sugary Sweethearts. So that's Oklahoma and Auburn. Oklahoma is end Auburn.

1130
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: Dan, why do you start with Oklahoma here because they've

1131
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: got a quarterback.

1132
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: You know, I think we feel pretty.

1133
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: Okay about what Lincoln Riley can do with a new quarterback.

1134
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 2: He's sort of our track record at this point. But

1135
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 2: the Ceede Lamb loss to the NFL hurts. What kind

1136
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 2: of production do we get from guys out wide? What

1137
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: does it mean to lose Kenneth Murray in the heart

1138
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 2: of that defense? Like there there's some real questions at

1139
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: all three levels of this defense. So I was shying

1140
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: away from this pick because of questions not only about

1141
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: Oklahoma but also Auburn shall get too momentarily, but start

1142
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 2: with the Sooners here.

1143
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: How do you feel? Well? I mean, you loved Penn State,

1144
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: so we can go through all the Penn State College

1145
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: Football playoff memories you have. Because Oklahoma gets there, say

1146
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: what you will about what they do once there. They

1147
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: get there. He's your road, for sure, but they get there.

1148
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: The case for Oklahoma is I think pretty straightforward. They

1149
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: actually improved on defense the last we saw of them.

1150
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: That statement doesn't make sense, but during the Big Twelve

1151
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: season they did enough confusing teams, creating havoc attacking quarterbacks

1152
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: that it's clear that Alex Grinch. I don't know what

1153
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: his ceiling is in Norman, but it's clear that he

1154
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: is improving things. He is getting them to an interesting place.

1155
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: Spencer Ratler was incredibly well thought of coming out of

1156
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: high school. I think he was a number one quarterback

1157
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: in the class couple of years ago. He steps in

1158
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: with experience in the program, and for the first time,

1159
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: he's not transferring in like the last couple quarterbacks granted

1160
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: or less three quarterbacks, two of them one. Heisman's pretty

1161
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: good track record, so Spencer Ratler should be in a

1162
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: good position. Even though they lose Cede Lamb, all they

1163
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: do is keep replacing really great receivers with really great receivers.

1164
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: Maybe that's Charleston Rambo. I know they're dealing with injuries

1165
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: there with Jadon Hazelwood and Theo Howard, but I'm still

1166
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: not worried. They lose Trey Sermon, they solve Kennedy Brooks,

1167
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: they return a ton along the offensive line, and even

1168
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: though you know you mentioned Kenneth Murray and you mentioned

1169
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: questions on all three levels, I don't know if there's

1170
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: a long list right now with big twelve quarterbacks that

1171
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: just out and out scare me. You take the good,

1172
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: you take the bad. There's Brock Purdy, Right, you take

1173
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: the good, you take the bad. There's Sam Ellinger. There's

1174
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: nobody that is just like man, I don't know. I

1175
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: don't know what this defense is gonna do against that guy,

1176
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Yeah, that's a question. They get Caleb Kelly back,

1177
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: hopefully for a full season. I like this Oklahoma team.

1178
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: It's not an amazing schedule, but it's fine. They get

1179
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: Baylor at home, they get Texas, you know, the new

1180
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: neutral site like they do every year, through on the

1181
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: road against the TCU team. I have a lot of

1182
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: questions about It's a pretty smooth November. I'm not going

1183
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: to take Army lightly because we all watched that game

1184
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: a little while ago, and they have Tennessee early on.

1185
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: But it's Oklahoma. They just keep winning the conference, and

1186
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: I think Spencer Ratler, with time to develop now, I

1187
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: think he is going to have probably more upside than

1188
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: at least they had last year in the long term.

1189
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: So I like Oklahoma good amount. Is that candle still

1190
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: burning that you lit for Washington?

1191
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 2: You're going to make me talk about bon Nix, Talk

1192
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: to me about your love for Sweet Sweet true sophomore

1193
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: bon Nicks. Dan make that case for bow Nicks Heisman,

1194
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: Heisman contender and National Championship contender.

1195
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: Walk me through every single game that bon Nicks has

1196
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: lost to Alabama. Walk me through every single one of them.

1197
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: He beat Oregon even though he tried not. He beat

1198
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: him with that last throw and led an offense in

1199
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: a win against Alabama with ant Tua, but nonetheless mid Alabama,

1200
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: so he has played up in big moments. Chad Morris

1201
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: takes over at offensive coordinator. I think that's an upgrade.

1202
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: Kevin Steele is one of the best three defensive coordinators

1203
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: in the country. They lose a lot up front, and

1204
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm not terribly concerned. Maybe I should be, but they've

1205
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: recruited well enough and Kevin Steel year over year over

1206
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: year just keeps not allowing anything of offenses, So I'm

1207
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: going to give them the benefit of the doubt. Linebacker

1208
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: looks really, really good. The secondary should be fine. They

1209
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: lose key pieces, but they should be fine. And I

1210
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: think we assume even with a new line in front

1211
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: of him, and you know, a sort of up in

1212
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: the air situation with a couple good returning receivers. Bownicks

1213
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: can get too efficient, because I don't think he was

1214
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: last year. I think he can become a lot more

1215
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: concern distant this year. Chad Morris has a good reputation,

1216
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: at least had a good reputation with what he did

1217
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: at Clemson as a coordinator. So with this schedule, North

1218
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: Carolina at a neutral site on the road against Georgia,

1219
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: I think they have a bye before Mississippi State and

1220
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: then they finished with LSU and on the road in

1221
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: the Iron Bowl. It's a tough schedule for sure, but

1222
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: they're you know, they're chaotic Auburn and why count them out?

1223
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: So I'm rolling with them if we could just add

1224
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more texture here, give me the case

1225
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: against do it you against Auburn? Yeah, that's your job now.

1226
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: I made the case for both of these teams.

1227
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 2: Entirely new offensive line. You said you kind of panned

1228
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 2: the fact that it's a new offensive line. You're five

1229
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 2: five starters up front in front of a quarterback who,

1230
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 2: let's be honest, had some shaky moments. I liked that

1231
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 2: decidedly more than you all last year.

1232
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: That much is clear. Go back and listen. Yeah, but.

1233
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: Losing five starters up front it's gonna take a while,

1234
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 2: especially in this day and age with the Rona running wild,

1235
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 2: to get that kind of cohesion that you need to

1236
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 2: keep him protected.

1237
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: I worry about that.

1238
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 2: And again I agree that Kevin Steele one of the

1239
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: best defensive coordinators in the country for sure, But losing

1240
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 2: Derek Brown, losing Marlin Davidson.

1241
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: I think you give the secondary a little too much credit.

1242
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 2: I think it's questionable. I just I'm not as bullish

1243
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 2: on the defense as I think you are.

1244
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: The one defense to really accomplish something against LSU last year.

1245
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: Now Derek Brown's gone, there's a lot different about this defense.

1246
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,479
Speaker 1: But man, just every year, every year you turn around

1247
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: and they're like the best defense in the red zone

1248
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: in the country.

1249
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: All Right, you get one other PI is your last pick?

1250
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 2: Make it worthwhile?

1251
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: I guess I have to take. Wait, I guess I

1252
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: could take either the eighteen wheel Warehouse or Florida. Man, right,

1253
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: that's you get one of the other one or the other.

1254
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna take the eighteen wheel Warehouse.

1255
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: Do it, do it, keep gonna make and baby, let's

1256
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: start with Notre Dame. Let's get real with it, ty.

1257
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 2: Let's get real. Does this mean I get to make

1258
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: the case against Notre Dame.

1259
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: That's correct? That is correct, baby, go ahead, Oh baby,

1260
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: are you like an and one sideline announcer? Oh? Baby,

1261
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: so I've long now said quarterback and defense. That's my

1262
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: combination for playoff caliber. Ian Book is a playoff quarterback.

1263
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 2: Correct uh, he is a playoff participating quarterback.

1264
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: He has led a team to the college football playoffs.

1265
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: Correct sir, you're on the stand, You're under oath. Okay,

1266
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: so that is that is fact. That is fact. Only

1267
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: their defense, they have probably one of the best seven

1268
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators in the country. And Clark Lee, right, I

1269
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: think he's a total stud. You you have a little

1270
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: bit of a Clark Lee boner. You love Clark Okay,

1271
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: Ty's easy. I know the candles burning hot. They don't

1272
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: have any obvious killers to me at offensive skill position.

1273
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: And you know, Chase Claypool had to do a lot himself.

1274
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 1: They tried to build the whole, the whole plane out

1275
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: of Chase Claypool last season and it worked to a

1276
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,839
Speaker 1: decent extent. But I don't I don't see an obvious

1277
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: replacement for him. Cole Koment in the backfield is. It

1278
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: just seems like they're just guys. The offensive line should

1279
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: be really good in front of in front of ian book,

1280
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: They're a decent shaped linebacker. I don't think they're gonna

1281
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: get after the quarterback in the way that they have

1282
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: in previous years. But I still think they have guys.

1283
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: Dalen Hayes is still I think, yet to reach his potential.

1284
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: We'll see, but I think clark Lee will put him

1285
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: in a decent enough position. With a schedule that man,

1286
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: they've got, They've got the body blowback to back with

1287
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Stanford, but even that, like Davis Mills check Cone,

1288
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: I just I'm not terribly sweating everything. They have McHale

1289
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: and Kevin Slovas back to back to finish the season.

1290
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: McHale I believe is in South Bend. The USC is

1291
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: in LA. But I don't I think they're They always

1292
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: seem to be good enough. They you know, they got

1293
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: blown out of the water by what Michigan last year.

1294
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: They ran all over them. Yep, And they might have

1295
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 1: one of those weeks and maybe maybe it'll be against Clemson,

1296
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Combination defense, secondary should be pretty good.

1297
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton steps in Aloi, Gilman gone. I think it's

1298
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 1: just I think they're going to be solid enough where

1299
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: they'll squeak out some Twenty seven to twenty three is

1300
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 1: more often than not. I was going to discredit your

1301
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: whole case.

1302
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, before you missed, I said, Kyle Hamilton, Kyle Hamilton,

1303
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 2: come on your guy. I would be content letting Clark

1304
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 2: Lee play Kyle Hamilton at all eleven defensive positions.

1305
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: Sure, move him around like.

1306
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 2: He's Isaiah sim and see what he can do, because

1307
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 2: he's he's really good, he's big, he's really good. He's

1308
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 2: going to play safety. He's going to get more minutes

1309
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 2: as a safety this year. And I think they should

1310
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 2: be really good on defense. The schedule's not bad. They

1311
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,440
Speaker 2: got four games that basically determine everything you mentioned, Louisville

1312
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 2: and USC, and there's that Wisconsin game earlier on in

1313
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 2: the year, and then as we get to November, the

1314
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 2: home game against Clemson. And it's really those four games

1315
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 2: that I think will decide a lot, and what we'll

1316
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 2: decide at all truly won't be the defense. It's going

1317
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 2: to be Ian book and what Tommy Reese can squeeze

1318
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 2: out of Ian Book, what can you get out of

1319
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 2: him this year.

1320
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: Who's catching the passes? Don't know?

1321
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 2: Who's lining up in the backfield, don't know. Can Chris

1322
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: Tyree give him something? I hope so, yeah, yeah, I

1323
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 2: hope her in the backfield. I don't feel great about

1324
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 2: Jafar Armstrong, but I think the line will be okay.

1325
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 2: They recruited well up front. There's a lot to like

1326
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 2: about the offense. I just don't know if we know

1327
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 2: who that problem problem is yet. There are definitely problem

1328
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 2: problems on defense. They'll be fine on defense, but offensive.

1329
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: I feel like I've confused you with that term. Yeah.

1330
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 2: I mean it's a double negative in the worst way.

1331
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 1: But it's fine. It's fine if your friends problem problem

1332
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 1: that means you have an issue having standout players. It's

1333
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: a weird term. A lack of standout players is a

1334
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: problem problem.

1335
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 2: I I feel okay, mm hmm okay about the case

1336
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 2: of chance is what it's just a schedule Ian book

1337
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 2: and not having game changers on offense.

1338
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so I have to I think Texas is

1339
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: actually a really easy defense. Texas has seven new assistant coaches,

1340
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 1: two new coordinators, and Mike Rsicch and Chris ash mm hmm.

1341
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: On paper, the thing that really jumps out on offense

1342
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: is losing your two big wideouts and Devin de Verne

1343
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: and Colin Johns. You're making the case four right now,

1344
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: I just draft him. You're making the case for it.

1345
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: Want to be straight here. The case for this is

1346
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 1: what I do with Texas. I like, I know there's

1347
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: there's something about the lone star state between TCU Texas

1348
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: and Bucky. You just it sings to you. I think

1349
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: they'll be fine.

1350
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 2: They got Sam Elliot, they'll be fun and defensively, you

1351
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 2: other Chris Ashy changing the system. He's trying to be

1352
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 2: a little more reliant on creating pressure without blitzing. Yeah,

1353
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 2: they got a lot back on defense, so you got

1354
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 2: to like that. The schedule is is favorable. I like

1355
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 2: that those crash lsu early, maybe in an empty stadium.

1356
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: Can you imagine how back Texas would be if they

1357
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: went on the road to Tiger Stadium in one week

1358
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:37,799
Speaker 2: two against Elisee with help, no crowd noise, no crowd noise,

1359
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 2: ten out of ten back nest right there.

1360
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, meet George on the Sugar Bowl a

1361
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. So their their record is is

1362
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: pretty decent against top SEC teams recently, other than you know,

1363
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: the lost to LSU last year. Uh yeah, I think

1364
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 1: you're right the optimism. There's a lot of very interesting pieces.

1365
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 1: They return a bunch on the offensive line. The running

1366
01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: backs are good. It was a question last year, and

1367
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 1: now they have answers there to wreak black transfers in

1368
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: to help the receiving corps. I think they moved a

1369
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 1: blue chip running back over to slot receiver, so I

1370
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: think there's enough speed, enough talent around Sam Ellinger, who

1371
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 1: has proved himself to play up to big games at times.

1372
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: I like the Chris ash higher. They're going to be

1373
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: healthier in the secondary. I like the pieces up front.

1374
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: I think they were probably they were probably a year

1375
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: away last year, which was weird timing given the win

1376
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 1: over Georgia the year before and the momentum coming into

1377
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: the season, But they were probably a year away with

1378
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 1: how young they were on defense, and so now if

1379
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 1: they're healthier and more experienced, those freshman sophomores become sophomores

1380
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: and juniors. I think there's a I like Mike Gearsick

1381
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: a lot as a coordinator. He makes every place better

1382
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 1: so the case is obviously there. The case against is

1383
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,799
Speaker 1: just they are Texas. The universe views them as Texas

1384
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: and treats them as such. And you're going to get

1385
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: your shootouts against Kansas, You're going to get your weird

1386
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: losses to Iowa State or can can you turn those

1387
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: close ugly losses into close ugly wins sometimes? But with

1388
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: Sam Allinger, with the talent around him, it feels like

1389
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: a year set up. Even with all of the changes

1390
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: on the sideline and the coaching staff, it feels like

1391
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: a good year to maximize what Texas can be because

1392
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: their road games are Kansas State tough place to play,

1393
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 1: probably an empty stadium, Oklahoma State tough place to play,

1394
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: probably an empty stadium, and LSU same for them, And

1395
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: so it works out pretty well for Texas, especially in

1396
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: week two, if they're getting a Miles Brennan who's still

1397
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 1: a little bit raw and unsure of himself, it's great

1398
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: for Texas, all right.

1399
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 2: That means that I have one pick to make here,

1400
01:14:52,439 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 2: doesn't it correct? I am stuck with Florida, man. I

1401
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 2: like Florida the Gators. I think Dan Mullen will get

1402
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 2: them ratchet it up. I have come around on calm

1403
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 2: throw Kyle. Do have some questions about some of the

1404
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 2: playmakers on offense, in the backfield elsewhere, but I've come

1405
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 2: to trust Dan Mullen. I think I think he will

1406
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: do a fine job in that situation. Defensively, I think

1407
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,759
Speaker 2: they're stout as well, and I like the schedule.

1408
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: Frankly, I think the.

1409
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 2: Schedule works to their favor. Their road games listen to this,

1410
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,959
Speaker 2: At Tennessee a bit of rivalry, right, but at Tennessee

1411
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: that's a winnable game. Yeah, on the road, at Old

1412
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 2: miss on the road, at Vandy, on the road at

1413
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 2: Florida State, the close out the year, of course of

1414
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: Georgia games, Neutral Cider.

1415
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 1: It's a great schedule, really good schedule. In between. They've

1416
01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: got Eastern Washington, Kentucky, South Alabama, South Carolina, LSU tough

1417
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 1: game but at home. Yeah, but l season games well.

1418
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got Missouri, New Mexico State. Like these are

1419
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 2: all very very winnable games. I find it hard to

1420
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 2: believe that we're not looking at at least a ten

1421
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 2: and two Florida team. And yes, depending on what happens

1422
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 2: elsewhere around the SEC East, you could probably make a

1423
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 2: case that this is a contending team. They've recruited well.

1424
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 2: If the offense can take more strides forward. Given what

1425
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 2: Dan Moull did last year having to start Kyle Trask

1426
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 2: on short notice, slowly built that offense up around him,

1427
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 2: There's an awful lot to like there, favorable schedule, good

1428
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 2: talent level. If things break in their direction, this is

1429
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 2: a steal, could be potentially a steal.

1430
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 1: Another haunting empty stadium swamp. Oh god, wow, that would

1431
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 1: be difficult to watch, but I'll happily do it. I

1432
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 1: will happily watch college football if it means empty stadiums,

1433
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: that's okay. Yeah, I think you laid it out pretty well.

1434
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: I think they lost probably too many game changes on defense.

1435
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 1: I think there's intriguing dudes, young red shirting whatever that

1436
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 1: could come in and immediately play an interesting role on defense.

1437
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: And I think they have an offensive problem problem. I

1438
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 1: love Kyle Trask. I think he is a really impressive quarterback,

1439
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: probably the best guy in the SEC returning, and I

1440
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: really like Kyle Pitts. But in terms of guys, I'm

1441
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 1: just really scared of either in the backfield or lining

1442
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 1: up out wide. I'm not sure I see it. I'm

1443
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 1: not sure I see it that's the case against but

1444
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: they look to have double digitalent. I like their coordinators

1445
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: at least I like Todd Grantham and Dan Mullen should

1446
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: be calling the place. Maybe something has changed.

1447
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 2: But.

1448
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 1: There's way more to like about Florida than not and

1449
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,799
Speaker 1: getting LSU at home, getting probably an empty Tennessee stadium

1450
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 1: on the road. It's great or to set up to

1451
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 1: have a really, really impressive year, and they've they've closed

1452
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: the gap against Georgia. They went from being completely out

1453
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 1: of that game to losing by a touchdown. And it's

1454
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: a good year to get Georgia.

1455
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 2: This means that I have to try and defend Florida

1456
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: State and Miami, doesn't it.

1457
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you can do it really quickly. You

1458
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 1: don't have to spend a ton of time by apposition

1459
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: groups and coaches.

1460
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 2: I will say that of these two teams, Miami is

1461
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 2: certainly the more interesting. Florida State's in transition. I have

1462
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 2: a lot of faith in Mike Norvell. I think he'll

1463
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 2: do a good job in Tallahassee. But the Miami situation

1464
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: is interesting because they you know, they made a big

1465
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: deal dan enos last year and Tate Martell coming down

1466
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 2: from Ohio State.

1467
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: That didn't work. Yeah no, But they've now brought in

1468
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: Rhett Lashley.

1469
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 2: He's going to change up the system again. They've added

1470
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 2: Deeric King from Houston, who's an exciting player. They got

1471
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: to improve their offensive line, but they've got a really

1472
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 2: good pass rush, really really good pass rush. And now

1473
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 2: the back half of the defense won't be as good.

1474
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 2: But when you got that pass rush up front, that

1475
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 2: pass rush, Dan.

1476
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that Temple influence Quincy Manny dis you.

1477
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 2: Gotta feel pretty good about that. I'm looking at the schedule, now,

1478
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 2: listen to this Temple Wagner UAB. On the road at

1479
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 2: Michigan State, they.

1480
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: Should win that game. You read schedules, Ty, You read

1481
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 1: schedules like you're doing an audio book. Wagner UAB, You're great.

1482
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: You have a talent that I'll never have.

1483
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 2: Home against Pitt on the road at Wake, Home against

1484
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 2: North Carolina at UVA, Home against Florida State at Virginia Tech,

1485
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,759
Speaker 2: at Georgia Tech, and home against Duke.

1486
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: They go twelve at oh I would have just cut

1487
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,799
Speaker 1: off at like, Hey, Derek King's exciting and they probably

1488
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:54,839
Speaker 1: have the best duo of defensive ends in the country,

1489
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,799
Speaker 1: and Greg Rossel and Quincy Rochek tell.

1490
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 2: Me they couldn't go twelve and zero against the schedule.

1491
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: They won't coach against the schedule.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of problems in Miami. They can't protect

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Speaker 2: their quarterback. Derek King's just going to sail too many mistakes.

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Speaker 2: He's a defense. Yeah, work with me here, Okay, I'm trying.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what rad Lashley will be saying to

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Speaker 2: the offensive line coach at some point this year. I

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Speaker 2: also am not a huge like RHT Lashley, as I

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Speaker 2: think built up his reputation somewhat going to coach for

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Speaker 2: head coaches who are already the offensive mastermind of their

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Speaker 2: team and gusmels On and recently Sunny Dykes at SMU.

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Speaker 1: So I hope he's good. I just I'm not sold,

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Speaker 1: all right, Dan, Well, here's what we got.

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Speaker 2: I have Ohio State in Washington, Boom Killers, LSU and

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Speaker 2: Penn State. I have Clemson in Michigan, and I have

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Speaker 2: Florida Florida State in Miami. And for you, you have

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Speaker 2: Alabama and an m the Ranchione Farm which is the

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Speaker 2: best name, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Georgia and USC Texas in Notre Dame. I love this.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, hell yeah. Well look, think if Texas beats Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: think about it, thank about it. Even if they lose,

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Speaker 1: tell us you twelve and one and winning the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: It's a pretty good position. Got Oklahoma there last year,

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Speaker 1: and you've got Oklahoma and Auburn. Yeah sugreat greathearts. So

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Speaker 1: look right in Solid Verbal at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: Let us know who has the better roster. Let us

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Speaker 2: know what we left out and our cases for and against.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget.

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Speaker 2: You can always find us out there on Instagram, on Facebook,

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Speaker 2: you will, Uh, don't forget the Subscribe to the show

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Speaker 2: You can find the Solid Verbal all year round. And

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Speaker 2: if you missed anything, going out to the website at

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Speaker 2: solidverbal dot com. While you're there, sign up for the

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Speaker 2: newsletter because I'm going to be sending out more as

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Speaker 2: we announce all sorts of fun stuff here in the off.

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Speaker 1: Season Dan in the meantime fun Show.

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Speaker 2: But let's keep those fingers crossed that there can be

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Speaker 2: a safe way to put all of these selections to

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Speaker 2: the test because otherwise it's gosh, we're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: simulate this in NCAA fourteen with new rosters.

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Speaker 1: Will you play the People's Court music as you give

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Speaker 1: the places where people can subscribe and follow, and like,

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Speaker 1: do you want me? You really want me to? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I absolutely do. Subscribe to the show Spotify, Apple, Google,

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Speaker 1: anywhere you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: M M.

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Speaker 1: That's all I got. Okay, that's all I have.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty happy with my squad, for that guy over there,

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Speaker 2: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hilton Brand.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back in two days. We'll talk to you then.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, stay solid, Pace,