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Speaker 2: Hello friends, Happy New Year, and we're so excited to
Speaker 2: welcome a member of our family to the show this week.
Speaker 2: She's been with us so much this year. She's such
Speaker 2: an amazing friend and supporter, but we weren't able to
Speaker 2: talk to her during the SAG strike about her character
Speaker 2: at all. So now we finally get to ask her
Speaker 2: all of the questions. Friends, Tory DeVito's here today. Guys,
Speaker 2: you are great. How are you.
Speaker 1: I'm good.
Speaker 5: We're so happy to have you on because we couldn't
Speaker 5: talk about Nanny Carey during the strike, and so you know,
Speaker 5: we were able to get to get you so that
Speaker 5: the fans could enjoy the pleasure of your company, but
Speaker 5: we weren't allowed to talk about the one thing that
Speaker 5: everybody's dying to know about. I'm so sorry that we're
Speaker 5: able to talk now.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. It doesn't matter what I'm doing, Like
Speaker 1: everybody always wants to talk about her, you know, I
Speaker 1: like a convention for another show, it's like about her.
Speaker 5: He had so much success on other shows too, I
Speaker 5: mean Pretty Little Liars, Vampire Diaries, Army Wives, and then
Speaker 5: obviously recently Chicago Med. It's like, you work all the time,
Speaker 5: and it's so funny that Nanny Carey is the thing that.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is the thing. That's the thing. It actually
Speaker 1: just happened like well yesterday again, but in front of
Speaker 1: my dad, and he was like, oh did they say one?
Speaker 1: I was like, Dad all the time. He was like
Speaker 1: really still and I was like all the time, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what people want to talk about.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's because people rewatch our show so much,
Speaker 2: or or do you think it's because she is in
Speaker 2: that sort of canon of these iconic characters. Like we
Speaker 2: were talking watching the episode out in the Cornfield with
Speaker 2: y'all last you know, in our in our last rewatch
Speaker 2: recording that it's so like, it's so Kathy Bates, it's
Speaker 2: so they gave you all of this stuff to do.
Speaker 2: That really does feel reminiscent of these iconic sort of
Speaker 2: horror movies and psychological thrillers, and like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I almost am realizing as I'm asking you the question,
Speaker 2: it would probably be great for us at our next
Speaker 2: convention to ask the fans, like, what is it that
Speaker 2: makes it so stand out totally?
Speaker 1: Did you know that? That's what? So like, because I
Speaker 1: thought I was done after the first like season five,
Speaker 1: you know, I thought I had done what I did,
Speaker 1: and he called me it was like, how would you
Speaker 1: feel about.
Speaker 6: Coming back and doing a misery yes storyline?
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, obviously that sounds amazing. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that was so that was so fun.
Speaker 5: Did you know when you came into audition for Carrie
Speaker 5: the Nanny that it was going to be this psychotic
Speaker 5: or was it just like just a guess?
Speaker 1: But it was just like a little recurring and it
Speaker 1: was and it literally said on the thing, I think
Speaker 1: like girl next Door, New Nanny and that was it,
Speaker 1: Like it said nothing else, and I don't even think
Speaker 1: and I think they didn't even know that it would
Speaker 1: go all the way there. So it was such a
Speaker 1: surprise and I was so grateful because at that point,
Speaker 1: you know, in life and in my career.
Speaker 6: I was I think I was like twenty four when
Speaker 6: I got that, and.
Speaker 1: It was like I've always you know, you played the
Speaker 1: girlfriend or like the wife or like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And I was like, Oh, these rules are
Speaker 1: so boring, and you always felt like you got to
Speaker 1: do the fun stuff like in class, not really on set,
Speaker 1: and so when I got to come back and do that,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, and I remember I took it
Speaker 1: so seriously, like when I had to like use the
Speaker 1: syringe and stuff, like I was in my hotel room
Speaker 1: like practicing all the syringe moves and like all these things.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, and it's so funny watching the
Speaker 1: episode back. I watched it this morning, actually the last episode,
Speaker 1: because I actually made that mistake I did. I did
Speaker 1: a pretty little liar's podcast and I didn't know I
Speaker 1: was supposed to watch the episode and I'd never watched
Speaker 1: any of the episodes. No, And you know when you
Speaker 1: kind of panic and you realize you should just tell them,
Speaker 1: like you guys, I messed up. I should have watched it.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't do my homework. But then you
Speaker 1: panic and you just decide I'm going to fake it
Speaker 1: till I make it, and then at the end of
Speaker 1: it you go there, No, I sounded like an idiot
Speaker 1: the whole time. I lied about everything, like I didn't
Speaker 1: know what I was talking like everything I'd be like
Speaker 1: and then they did a trivia game with me about No.
Speaker 5: No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: Even know what they were talking out.
Speaker 6: And I'm like, still to this day, I'm like, why
Speaker 6: didn't I just tell them?
Speaker 1: Why didn't I just honestly know what.
Speaker 6: I don't know what you guys are talking about.
Speaker 1: This is my fault. But anyway, so I watched the
Speaker 1: episode this morning, and there were so many moments though,
Speaker 1: because I was like, looking at like, you know, we
Speaker 1: look all like we're babies. It's so babies, semies, and
Speaker 1: I was like, and so many things I did I know.
Speaker 1: I was like taking it so seriously, but watching it now,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh god, oh.
Speaker 2: No, really no, it was great.
Speaker 1: What yes, but you know, you know, and like, you
Speaker 1: know the state of mind you were in and you
Speaker 1: were like, yes, I'm going to go in there do this,
Speaker 1: and then they're watching back and you're like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: What always makes me laugh about that is sometimes when
Speaker 2: you get so obsessed with the preparation and making sure
Speaker 2: you're really in the headspace. Like half the shit you
Speaker 2: spend months doing or are hours doing, depending on how
Speaker 2: much time you have to prep never even winds up
Speaker 2: in the edit and you're like.
Speaker 5: Oh, man, yeah, you get new sides that morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're like, oh, I don't believe anymore.
Speaker 6: You're like, I'm got to pay for all those lessons.
Speaker 2: But Tori, no, I have to tell you. When we
Speaker 2: were watching it, we were talking about what an unbelievable
Speaker 2: job you did, and the and the commitment required and
Speaker 2: and how unhinged Carrie got. Thank god, we finally figured
Speaker 2: out why they gave you the motivation. We learned about
Speaker 2: you know, her son and all these things. But I
Speaker 2: have to tell you because look, I think we're all
Speaker 2: the same. We watch things back that we've done and
Speaker 2: we go like, oh my god, what was I doing?
Speaker 2: So like I A, I feel you deeply, but be
Speaker 2: I feel like I just have to repeat. When we
Speaker 2: were talking about the episode, I said to Joy, I
Speaker 2: was like, there's this thing that you do. You have
Speaker 2: this laugh that is so uncomfortable when you sort of
Speaker 2: like come to and you're having that final exchange with Paul,
Speaker 2: and I didn't remember it at the time because obviously,
Speaker 2: when you know, we were making our show, we barely
Speaker 2: got to watch it Allah You on Pretty Little Liars,
Speaker 2: But I was like, oh my god, that that sound
Speaker 2: and that choice and that specificity. It gave me chills
Speaker 2: and like my brain immediately went to Anthony Hopkins in
Speaker 2: Silence of the Lambs, like doing that sound, and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, Tori has a Silence of
Speaker 2: the Lambs moment on our show, like it really, like
Speaker 2: it feels so iconic and cool, like you were so
Speaker 2: so fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Thank You. It was so fun to do. I mean
Speaker 1: the whole from start to finish. It was just like
Speaker 1: it's still like one of my favorite things, especially like
Speaker 1: just getting to do because you don't get to do that.
Speaker 1: And I love that they actually showed the reason why,
Speaker 1: because she had a son who died, like you, we
Speaker 1: needed that TV like that. They don't really there's so
Speaker 1: many holes and so I was so happy that they
Speaker 1: did that. But rewatching the death thing. I actually forgot
Speaker 1: that she died three times me too.
Speaker 5: She just could not be killed.
Speaker 1: She could not I forgot she had that end moment
Speaker 1: with Dan and I was like, oh my god. But
Speaker 1: it was so funny because I remembered I was like
Speaker 1: cleaning my house after the episode had already aired, and
Speaker 1: I had the TV on in the background, and I remember,
Speaker 1: you remember the soup with Joel McHale. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember hearing in the background, you know, on One Tree
Speaker 1: Hill there's a new nanny in town and she just
Speaker 1: won't die. And they literally took all three in my
Speaker 1: bed edited them together, and he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's you're so flattered to even be in a
Speaker 1: position to be made fun of in that way. Be like, oh,
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 2: They loved to make fun of our show.
Speaker 5: On that show they did. I remember that. Do you
Speaker 5: remember that day?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: How could you not? It's so ridiculous. So that day
Speaker 5: in the cornfields was please recount your experience of that,
Speaker 5: because I have my own version of it, but we
Speaker 5: talked about it already. Everybody's already heard it. Tell me.
Speaker 1: It was insane. It was so it was so hot,
Speaker 1: from what.
Speaker 5: I remember, so hot.
Speaker 1: And we were just running around these cornfields chasing.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 1: Just the whole thing seemed so wild. It was just
Speaker 1: like me holding the syringe. I remember just and like
Speaker 1: chasing poor Jamie too, like, oh.
Speaker 5: My gosh, poor kid, poor kid.
Speaker 1: Like how are you not traumatized from this? But I
Speaker 1: remember it was my first time wearing squibs too, which
Speaker 1: was really Yeah. I was really like, I get like
Speaker 1: a little funny about things. So I was like, what
Speaker 1: if they put it on backwards and it's going to
Speaker 1: explode and I'm gonna really die. But I did it.
Speaker 1: I'm still here.
Speaker 5: Give everybody a SoundBite. Remind everybody what squibs are for
Speaker 5: people who don't know.
Speaker 1: So, squib is what they put on you, so when
Speaker 1: somebody shoots you, it pops at the same time, so
Speaker 1: it looks like you're actually getting shot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it pops like out from your little sticker
Speaker 5: full of blood basically that they they put on your
Speaker 5: skin and then it pops in the same Yeah, you
Speaker 5: have a tube that runs down your back or something.
Speaker 5: Somebody squeezes it and it pops at the same time
Speaker 5: unless you are in control of the tube. Who was
Speaker 5: doing it with somebody else?
Speaker 1: Or were you somebody else? Okay, yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: I could have done that. At the same time. I
Speaker 1: was like, but it was so much fun, Like I
Speaker 1: just remember we were just running around all day in
Speaker 1: this point.
Speaker 5: Oh you've had fun. Man, it was so hot and buggy,
Speaker 5: remember all the bugs and oh yeah, every time you
Speaker 5: ran past all that corn it was the ros are
Speaker 5: really tight. It did actually start to feel kind of
Speaker 5: claustrophobic at some point because you can't get up high
Speaker 5: enough to see over and realize where you are. And
Speaker 5: at some point I do remember kind of doing a
Speaker 5: three sixty turnaround and being like, I'm very uncomfortable with
Speaker 5: the fact that I do not know how to get
Speaker 5: out of this amaze. I really don't like this.
Speaker 2: Did you guys ever get lost in there that day
Speaker 2: or no?
Speaker 5: No, because I had the dollies and they had like
Speaker 5: you just follow a cable at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: I guess.
Speaker 2: In my head, I'm like, they couldn't have tied something
Speaker 2: to you so you could follow the rope back like
Speaker 2: a diver, because you'd see it so funny.
Speaker 5: Communication was tough, like how I don't remember how Asher was.
Speaker 5: Was he on like a bullhorn or was he at
Speaker 5: the camera that I.
Speaker 1: Don't remember, Like I don't remember him in there with us.
Speaker 5: I feel like he had a bullhorn.
Speaker 6: Yeah, probably, but yeah, it was so buggy.
Speaker 1: It was so buggy. And again I remember getting the
Speaker 1: blood on me too, because it's so sticky and like
Speaker 1: got top of already being sweaty and sticky and funny
Speaker 1: like that corn styrup. Fake blood didn't do any favors either.
Speaker 5: And of course our base can where your shower would be,
Speaker 5: is probably like a twenty minute ride away, so you're
Speaker 5: walking to the van covered in molasses.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I don't think people realize how sticky that thing what is.
Speaker 1: It's so worse. It's the worst, especially when it gets
Speaker 1: in your hair and then you go like this and
Speaker 1: your hair just sticks and pulls and you hear it
Speaker 1: rip and you're like, oh.
Speaker 5: No, Tori, do die a lot in your shows? No,
Speaker 5: that was the only minute died in Okay, Yeah, all right,
Speaker 5: Well it's never mind.
Speaker 1: You think that. I think that people assume that because
Speaker 1: these are like it takes so long to film something,
Speaker 1: and we film it for so long that we just
Speaker 1: like have this amazing recollection of the things we've done,
Speaker 1: and it's incredible to me how I'll even watch a
Speaker 1: scene and be like, what's that I did that?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like or photo shoots or something, and you're like, that's me.
Speaker 1: When did I do that?
Speaker 6: It's like so weird how it like starts to slip
Speaker 6: your mind.
Speaker 5: What is your interaction with fans, like when they do
Speaker 5: come up to you, because you know, Paul has told
Speaker 5: us that they are still actually mad at him, Like
Speaker 5: people will come up really genuinely upset with him. What's
Speaker 5: your interaction like?
Speaker 1: So when the show was first airing, it was not
Speaker 1: great because people were so because they loved.
Speaker 6: You and James together so much.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I remember like this one time I
Speaker 1: was in a gym and I was I took my
Speaker 1: shirt off, I was changing and I was in my
Speaker 1: sports bra and this girl.
Speaker 6: Came running up to me tears tears.
Speaker 1: And she was like you're ruining and a great thing
Speaker 1: and she just and everybody in the locker room stared
Speaker 1: at me, and I was like what. And people would
Speaker 1: come up to me on the street like that all
Speaker 1: the time, like like and then I was getting my
Speaker 1: emails were getting hacked into, my parents' emails into and
Speaker 1: people were like not happy. It's like this weird. They
Speaker 1: cannot differentiate between real life and not real life. But
Speaker 1: I think as I've as it's gotten for some reason,
Speaker 1: it's not really the same reaction anymore, which thank god,
Speaker 1: And I don't really know why, because, like you said, Sophia,
Speaker 1: like I think that so many people are watching it,
Speaker 1: you know, over and over again, Like the younger generation
Speaker 1: is like it's like a new thing for them. But
Speaker 1: I'm not getting as harsh of a reaction. It's more
Speaker 1: just like you're crazy. But even with friends, like I
Speaker 1: remember when it was airing, like if I started dating
Speaker 1: someone and they wanted to introduce me to our friend,
Speaker 1: if anybody in their friend group had watched it, they
Speaker 1: were like, we really didn't know. We thought you would
Speaker 1: be like we were really afraid to meet you, Like
Speaker 1: we didn't know what you'd be like. And I was like,
Speaker 1: what it is everybody?
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: I also wonder if there's something too, you know, people
Speaker 2: are obviously able to watch it and binge it and
Speaker 2: get to the culmination of the story quicker, and you know,
Speaker 2: we do win, Nathan and Haley do stay together. But
Speaker 2: I also wonder if there's something to the fact that
Speaker 2: now there is social media whereas there wasn't before, and
Speaker 2: like people know us and they also know we're all friends,
Speaker 2: you know, Like that's so it isn't like, you know,
Speaker 2: Nanny Carey versus Haley. It's like, oh, Tory and Joy
Speaker 2: and Sofa and Hilary are all friends.
Speaker 5: Like yeah, exactly, so easy to look you up and
Speaker 5: go see yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, and like people come to conventions with us
Speaker 2: and they get to hang out with us, and they
Speaker 2: get to we all get to do this with our audience,
Speaker 2: and like, you know, even you and I getting to
Speaker 2: go and work together for an overlap of years in Chicago,
Speaker 2: like we you know, we have we have a bigger
Speaker 2: life than just these characters who when that show was
Speaker 2: on there was no Instagram, there was no way to know.
Speaker 2: You just sort of experienced characters and then that was it.
Speaker 1: It is so true. I never thought of that. And
Speaker 1: also I think getting to like binge it like that
Speaker 1: you don't sit with it for a.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's so hard to get into it. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: really connect. I mean I was. I started watching Game
Speaker 5: of Thrones again with somebody who's had never seen it,
Speaker 5: and it's like, okay, so we watched two episodes or
Speaker 5: like maybe maybe three a week, and it just does
Speaker 5: it's not the same thing. You're not sitting with it,
Speaker 5: you're not living with it. You're not waiting in anticipation
Speaker 5: for a week to find out what the hell is
Speaker 5: going to happen. Yeah, you just answer your instant gratification
Speaker 5: needs immediately. And it's bad for all of us. Yeah,
Speaker 5: bad for everyone, everyone except you because now the fans
Speaker 5: are nice too, because thank you, there's not.
Speaker 1: Real for all the villains out there, we've really thrived
Speaker 1: in this environment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, was it hard at all, like being in the
Speaker 2: midst of that, because as an actor, you know, you
Speaker 2: were saying earlier, it's amazing to get a challenge like
Speaker 2: this and a storyline like this, and what an episode
Speaker 2: this is. You know, this arc is so cool when
Speaker 2: you get Dan out there and god, even that scene,
Speaker 2: like when it first happens and he opens the door
Speaker 2: to the hospital and we realized we're in the farmhouse.
Speaker 2: It's so eerie and you got to you know, it's
Speaker 2: like having such a big meal. But was it also
Speaker 2: a little strange knowing that this was going to be
Speaker 2: the death episode? Was it bitter sweet? Or was it
Speaker 2: just like you wanted to lean all the way into
Speaker 2: it and go like level ten?
Speaker 1: It was kind of both. I mean, it was definitely
Speaker 1: bitter sweet because I had so I enjoyed doing this
Speaker 1: portion of it so much, Like I really felt like
Speaker 1: I was just able to do so many things, so
Speaker 1: I didn't want that to end. Like that was really,
Speaker 1: you know, sad to me, but I also loved that
Speaker 1: it wasn't just like, you know, a shot and she's dead.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what I mean, there was
Speaker 1: so much more. And then once you really think she said,
Speaker 1: I know, they caught away to like some I think
Speaker 1: it was a Mikayla and Chad scene that was like
Speaker 1: really like you know what I mean, like yap, so
Speaker 1: you definitely think, okay, that's done and then it goes
Speaker 1: back and I loved. Yeah, I was really I was
Speaker 1: definitely sad that it was over. I was like so
Speaker 1: sad to say about her, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: like I was like, this is cool.
Speaker 6: This is like a really cool way to go out.
Speaker 2: And did you have to did you do research on
Speaker 2: movies like this, like Misery, the Kathy Bates film and
Speaker 2: other things? Was there stuff you wanted to put in
Speaker 2: to the character. Because that final moment with you and
Speaker 2: Dan is so crazy and the laughing and that you
Speaker 2: can't kill me like it really is. It's pete horror film. Yeah,
Speaker 2: did you like watch a bunch of horror films or
Speaker 2: did you not want to think about what other people
Speaker 2: were doing?
Speaker 1: So I did watch Misery because I actually hadn't seen it,
Speaker 1: and so when he said we want to do a
Speaker 1: Misery storyline, I was like, Okay, well I'm going to
Speaker 1: check this out. And that got me so excited. But
Speaker 1: then otherwise, like I feel like, especially like when I
Speaker 1: was younger, I thrived Like I loved doing horror movies.
Speaker 1: I loved doing that sort of thing. So I just
Speaker 1: felt like I thrived in that environment. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, So my research more was like the sympathy
Speaker 1: part for her, like building the sun, like building why
Speaker 1: she is the way she is, so that then like
Speaker 1: I could let it all go and be crazy, but
Speaker 1: it was like grounded in why she was doing it
Speaker 1: versus like I'm just gonna go wild, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 5: Ye give you that information ahead of time before you
Speaker 5: started with all the kidnapping stuff even a while ago,
Speaker 5: or were you just did you have to make something
Speaker 5: up for yourself?
Speaker 1: You know what? I actually don't remember. I really don't remember,
Speaker 1: but you know, and it sounds so pretentious, but like
Speaker 1: as actors they always say, like when somebody just asked
Speaker 1: me the other day, like how when you were playing
Speaker 1: such a horrible character, It's like, even if you can't
Speaker 1: find reasons to like that, and you have to find
Speaker 1: reasons why they're doing it and like sympathize with that, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know if it was them that
Speaker 1: told me early on or if I build something, but yeah,
Speaker 1: like finding that grounding of like why she's doing this
Speaker 1: was like the biggest part of the research for me.
Speaker 1: And then also like all, like I said, all the
Speaker 1: little prop things, which was so silly, but I was like,
Speaker 1: for some reason, I was so nervous to use all
Speaker 1: of them. I was like, oh, can I go home
Speaker 1: with this? Can I go with that?
Speaker 6: Even like I think I had to hold the revolver.
Speaker 1: I didn't even have to shoot it, and I went
Speaker 1: to a shooting range in Wilmington because I was so
Speaker 1: I was like, she's gonna look silly.
Speaker 6: I gotta hold it, right, Like I.
Speaker 1: Was so obsessed with everything, And it's funny because I
Speaker 1: kind of miss that a little bit. I feel like
Speaker 1: as I've gotten older, like obviously like research and all
Speaker 1: that stuff, but that feeling of like that anxiety where
Speaker 1: you can't sleep, you can't eat, You're just like this
Speaker 1: has to be perfect, Like I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: that I've had that and in a little bit, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like when you're young and
Speaker 1: you're like, I worked for free. It's so important. This
Speaker 1: is so important. Put me out in the cold at
Speaker 1: three in the morning, I don't care where tak top
Speaker 1: Like yeah, and now I'm like, where's.
Speaker 5: Yeah, is there a Wormington?
Speaker 1: What time will we be finished?
Speaker 5: That's right? Well, speaking of Wilmington, tell us about your
Speaker 5: experience in Wilming team because you came in in uh
Speaker 5: was it the summer. I'm trying to remember the time
Speaker 5: in the season that you came in and like, yeah,
Speaker 5: what was going on in your life when you got
Speaker 5: this job? Just give us away of the land.
Speaker 6: So I definitely remember being hot the whole time I
Speaker 6: was there. I loved Wilmington. I mean it is so charming.
Speaker 6: It was the first time I had ever had kill One's.
Speaker 1: Ice cream and I remember just like the hotel I
Speaker 1: was saying out was so close to it, and I
Speaker 1: was like, this is amazing. Like I was like on
Speaker 1: the water every night, having ice cream every night. And
Speaker 1: it was interesting because I moved. I moved to LA
Speaker 1: when I was eighteen, and so being in Wilmington when
Speaker 1: I was like twenty four was the first time I
Speaker 1: was back for a long period of time. I had
Speaker 1: spent my formative years in high school. I mean in
Speaker 1: high school. I spent my formative years in high school.
Speaker 1: I spent my formative years in Florida, and so Florida's
Speaker 1: weather is very similar to Wilmington. Yes, and my parents
Speaker 1: split when I was nineteen and it was really really
Speaker 1: difficult for me and my whole family dynamic changed.
Speaker 6: And I remember I was in a rental car in
Speaker 6: Wilmington and it has that those huge rain drops, like
Speaker 6: that downpour that LA does not get.
Speaker 1: You only get that like in the South.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I had an experience that since high school.
Speaker 6: And I remember I pulled over and just started sobbing
Speaker 6: because it felt like home but like letting go and.
Speaker 1: All these things. And I had that moving in Wilmington.
Speaker 1: So whenever I think of Wilmington now still, I just
Speaker 1: I always think of that moment, like it did so
Speaker 1: much to heal a lot that I was going through,
Speaker 1: which was really beautiful. And then I also like I
Speaker 1: loved being there. I didn't want to leave. I found
Speaker 1: this amazing Kwanti teacher that I would go see for
Speaker 1: like private. She was so incredible. Like I just started
Speaker 1: being a vegetarian and I was like eating just potatoes
Speaker 1: every day because back then, like in this it was
Speaker 1: very difficult.
Speaker 5: Matt Damon was farming potatoes on Mars and you were like,
Speaker 5: that is a good idea.
Speaker 1: That idea, so it was really special. It was really
Speaker 1: And then I also feel really lucky because I know,
Speaker 1: me and Mikayla McManus came on the show at the same.
Speaker 6: Time, and I just like fell in love with her.
Speaker 6: She's so incredible and I loved that we.
Speaker 1: Were both like newbies at the same time, so I
Speaker 1: feel like we got to like kind of lean on
Speaker 1: each other in that way. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: what a better person to kind of have that experience
Speaker 1: with because she was so lovely and wonderful.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I remember having you guys over to my apartment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pasta, you made us dinner.
Speaker 5: I made dinner, that's right, you guys were Yeah, the
Speaker 5: New Girls. That was fun. That was a really fun night.
Speaker 5: It was nice to connect with you both. I remember
Speaker 5: just how smart you both were, but I loved I
Speaker 5: felt like we had a really good table conversation and
Speaker 5: it was so nice to just, I don't know, be
Speaker 5: in a space. I love that age when and you
Speaker 5: really have nothing but time and you're just happy to
Speaker 5: sit and get to know anybody and spend the time,
Speaker 5: and you can like I long for those days. I
Speaker 5: long for being able to cut enough out of my
Speaker 5: schedule so that I can just have anybody over for dinner,
Speaker 5: just sit and get to know you. I'm like, our
Speaker 5: curiosity starts to get overshadowed by all the things that
Speaker 5: we have to just accomplish, and we don't have as
Speaker 5: much time to sit in that curiosity and miss those days.
Speaker 2: It's interesting you talk about it that way. I feel
Speaker 2: the same, Like it feels like we have so much
Speaker 2: to manage and do, and days can go by where
Speaker 2: you're just sort of taking off the to do list.
Speaker 2: And when I think about that time and you guys
Speaker 2: both coming out, and what a just lovely injection of
Speaker 2: spirit you both were to all of us because we've
Speaker 2: been there for so long. I remember, like I just
Speaker 2: I just think about the nights of you know, going
Speaker 2: to circa or going to the brasserie and like getting
Speaker 2: a mac and cheese. I'm and in this moment, I'm like,
Speaker 2: isn't that so crazy? Because we were working, you know,
Speaker 2: sixteen hours a day and still being like I want
Speaker 2: to go to dinner. Yeah, yeah, And it does sort
Speaker 2: of feel like now we're in this time. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: because we have smartphones and we're supposed to be on
Speaker 2: an email like every second of the day, but we're
Speaker 2: we're just like slammed with work. And I miss that too.
Speaker 2: I missed like the smell of Wilmington and all of
Speaker 2: us wrapping and walking out to base camp and being like.
Speaker 1: Should we go?
Speaker 2: Are we gonna go to the beach or are we
Speaker 2: gonna go downtown? Like where are we gonna get a table?
Speaker 2: And gap? That was so nice?
Speaker 5: Is that youth or is that the product of the
Speaker 5: age that we're in, Like do you think the older
Speaker 5: generation twenty years ago did have time to slow down
Speaker 5: or worth? Is it always you just the older you get,
Speaker 5: the busier you get, and you just start steamrolling snowball
Speaker 5: into occupied.
Speaker 1: I feel it's a combo.
Speaker 2: I do too.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a combo. I do think that
Speaker 1: as you get older, like things like like, but I
Speaker 1: also think like this age with cell phones and like
Speaker 1: like you just said, there's no cut off for your emails,
Speaker 1: there's no cut off for phone calls, especially now. I mean, Joy,
Speaker 1: you're on the East coast right, It's like, so we're
Speaker 1: three hours ahead of la or and uh and so
Speaker 1: you know, if somebody's calling me at six pm there,
Speaker 1: it's nine pm here, Like when do I when do
Speaker 1: you at all? You know, and it's like when do
Speaker 1: we draw that line? And I find that to be
Speaker 1: so hard with cell phones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well for me too, it's the blessing and the
Speaker 2: curse of being connected. You know, we're more connected than
Speaker 2: we've ever been, but we're also more stressed out than
Speaker 2: we've ever been. And you know, I think it's also
Speaker 2: it's so incredible that so many people can have creative
Speaker 2: careers now, and it means that everyone needs a job
Speaker 2: and a side hustle. You know, we all have day
Speaker 2: jobs and then we do this job and then we
Speaker 2: do other jobs and we do It's like there's so
Speaker 2: much available, but it also means that every moment of
Speaker 2: your time is taken. Yeah, and you know are we
Speaker 2: are we more connected than we ever have been.
Speaker 5: Like I know the ease of functional like I guess
Speaker 5: literal communication is easier.
Speaker 2: And that's what I mean A little bit is like
Speaker 2: what Tory was saying about if somebody from your office
Speaker 2: on the West Coast calls you at six, but it's
Speaker 2: nine and you're at dinner with your parents but you're
Speaker 2: trying to close I don't know a deal for a film,
Speaker 2: like do you pick up the phone or not? How
Speaker 2: do you set boundaries? We are expected to be connected
Speaker 2: all the time. We do have more access to information,
Speaker 2: but it also does create a sort of vacuum of
Speaker 2: I think intimacy because in a way, you know, like today,
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, I slept with my sliding door open
Speaker 2: and the birds woke me up up at five, which
Speaker 2: was so lovely. But yeah, like I was up at
Speaker 2: five am and I was like, well, what am I
Speaker 2: going to do with myself? It's five o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 2: so it's pittering around the house and make coffee. And
Speaker 2: then I started checking on everyone on Instagram because I
Speaker 2: was like, what's everybody doing, and I knew we were
Speaker 2: going to talk today, and I was like, is there
Speaker 2: anything that's happened in Tory's life in the last couple
Speaker 2: of weeks that I don't know about? So I'm scrolling
Speaker 2: and then I was like, Oh, I just love that
Speaker 2: pumpkin photo. And I'm like looking at this picture of
Speaker 2: you with a pumpkin, and I'm and I'm like, she's
Speaker 2: just so happy.
Speaker 5: But she has no idea that you're well exactly in
Speaker 5: the So it's this.
Speaker 2: Really interesting thing right where we can kind of say, oh,
Speaker 2: I miss this person, Oh I want to check on someone,
Speaker 2: but are we really connecting? So again, I think it's
Speaker 2: I think what happens is as these things expand, as
Speaker 2: these avenues of connection and opportunity grow, in a way,
Speaker 2: as they get wider, they get a little shallower because
Speaker 2: you really can only hold so much. So you can
Speaker 2: hold columns that are narrow and deep, or you can
Speaker 2: hold nine columns that are shallower and wider across. And
Speaker 2: I don't know necessarily what's better, but I do think
Speaker 2: it is the journey of our generation, certainly to try
Speaker 2: to figure out how to bridge this divide.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because we're the only ones that remember what it
Speaker 5: was like before and really fully embraced the current, even like, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I was singing the other day about the fact that,
Speaker 5: in you know, nineteen ninety five, we were all listening
Speaker 5: to exactly the same songs in the radio and watching
Speaker 5: exactly the same shows on TV because that's all anybody
Speaker 5: had access to. Like every single person in the United
Speaker 5: States was listening to Mariah Carey sing Hero on the
Speaker 5: radio do you know what I mean? Or Nirvana, I
Speaker 5: don't know when I should have a song list up
Speaker 5: in front of me right.
Speaker 2: Now, Nirvana, Tupac, Maria, all these these like change makers
Speaker 2: of culture, and we all knew them.
Speaker 5: We all were doing it at the exact same time,
Speaker 5: like every yeah, like every kid was sinking Gangs's Paradise
Speaker 5: with every Middle America because dangerous Minds came out and
Speaker 5: we all were watching everything the same. And so even
Speaker 5: though we weren't maybe connected talking about it all like
Speaker 5: we knew that that's we were sharing this cultural sameness.
Speaker 5: And now it's all so so so different for better
Speaker 5: in a lot of ways. It's so nice to have
Speaker 5: the variety and to be able to have access to
Speaker 5: things that you wouldn't normally see in your current bubble.
Speaker 5: But it is kind of weird to be like, oh,
Speaker 5: there's just so many options now that we're not I think,
Speaker 5: actually that's one of the things to type back to
Speaker 5: our show, because our show was one of the last
Speaker 5: of that breed where everybody everybody was watching it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was right before all that all the options came out.
Speaker 2: I mean it's wild to watch, you know, even to
Speaker 2: be watching these episodes and all of our characters are
Speaker 2: on flip phones. Like you couldn't text Novella's back and
Speaker 2: forth between your friends. You had to get on the
Speaker 2: phone because to type the word the took nineteen key
Speaker 2: tags like on TEENNI. It was just different. And now
Speaker 2: you know people like I have a friend who edited
Speaker 2: a book they wrote on an iPhone, just like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: every time I was on a flight, I was editing
Speaker 2: my chapters and you know is miming this the thumb
Speaker 2: taps and I'm going, whoa we are from our grandparents
Speaker 2: or our parents rather to our children. Like the shift
Speaker 2: is so big, It's just so big.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We saw around the world in the sort of last
Speaker 2: big political cycle what fake news did, but how it
Speaker 2: looks like real news on all these social websites, on Facebook,
Speaker 2: on X on everything, and you think about media literacy
Speaker 2: and how we're starting to talk about we've got to
Speaker 2: teach it to kids, not just college students in journalism class,
Speaker 2: for example. But it's like, we can't forget that in
Speaker 2: when was the first silent picture? I can't remember if
Speaker 2: it was like nineteen twelve or nineteen twenty, but.
Speaker 5: It was in that era twenty is I think?
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's say nineteen twenty, nineteen twenty one. People
Speaker 2: go to the first Silent movie. There was a shot
Speaker 2: of a train coming toward camera, and you know, we
Speaker 2: do stuff like that all the time. We put the
Speaker 2: camera on the road and the car barrels toward us
Speaker 2: and we watch and we're like, oh, why speed chase.
Speaker 2: But at the first Silent movie, when the train was
Speaker 2: barreling toward the audience on screen, everyone got up and
Speaker 2: ran out of the theater screaming.
Speaker 5: They freaked out because people.
Speaker 2: Didn't know that something they were seeing in front of
Speaker 2: them was not going to leave the screen, because they'd
Speaker 2: never seen something that wasn't three D before.
Speaker 5: I think this is an eighteen ninety five, okay, short
Speaker 5: film that you're talking about. Okay, obviously would have been
Speaker 5: silent at that, yes, but still wow.
Speaker 2: So let's call it just barely over one hundred years.
Speaker 2: We ran out of theaters because we thought trains on film,
Speaker 2: we're real, and now we're supposed to like know how
Speaker 2: to do this.
Speaker 5: Just over one hundred years. And then think about, just
Speaker 5: on a very personal level, how long it takes for
Speaker 5: personal change. We think about the people that we know
Speaker 5: who are fifty sixty seventy, and people can change, I believe,
Speaker 5: throughout their course of their life, and they grow and
Speaker 5: they evolve, but it doesn't happen overnight. So now you
Speaker 5: are going to apply that to an entire culture and
Speaker 5: say everything's supposed to be different, boom within one hundred years.
Speaker 5: It's not that much time.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can be sixty five and still working on
Speaker 1: something that your parents did in your childhood.
Speaker 5: Two hundred thousand percent.
Speaker 1: Let alone this big massive shift, it's really hardy. It
Speaker 1: honestly makes me more and more reclusive for lack of
Speaker 1: a better word, because I still like connect with my
Speaker 1: family and friends and you.
Speaker 6: Know, go and play on my tennis teams here and there,
Speaker 6: But like.
Speaker 1: It's cut me like off like I've been and like
Speaker 1: I get very I just don't want anything to do
Speaker 1: with it. It freaks me out, and so I have
Speaker 1: these like little tactics I'll do, like I don't I
Speaker 1: try not to charge my phone. I'll charge my phone
Speaker 1: in my car, but I won't charge it at night,
Speaker 1: so hoping that it dies throughout the day and then
Speaker 1: I don't have access to the charger now, like kind
Speaker 1: of like let it die.
Speaker 5: What a funny subconscious game to play with yourself.
Speaker 1: My fiance will like call me, so my my mom
Speaker 1: and my sisters, they don't even call me anymore.
Speaker 6: They just call my fance Jared because they're like.
Speaker 1: Why did you call me there?
Speaker 6: Because you never answer your photo, Like I can't. I
Speaker 6: just there's got to be aligned sometimes, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 1: But then on the flip side, sometimes I've realized that
Speaker 1: lately it's been making it so I'm kind of like
Speaker 1: lacking in what's going on, and I like to know
Speaker 1: what's going on. So it's like, how do you find
Speaker 1: that balance? How do you connect with your friends while
Speaker 1: also not being so like allowing that you know, well,
Speaker 1: you didn't get back to me for a couple of
Speaker 1: days and.
Speaker 6: It's like, oh, that's okay, that's okay, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like we need that.
Speaker 5: Balance different priorities. Yes, yeah, but everybody's living with different
Speaker 5: realities in their life, different priorities that they have to
Speaker 5: set into place because everybody can't do everything, and all
Speaker 5: the more reason why empathy is really important to be
Speaker 5: able to, you know, recognize that everyone's growing at different paces.
Speaker 5: Everybody has to prioritize different things. It's not going to
Speaker 5: be a perfect process, you know.
Speaker 6: But when you're just viewing things off on the internet,
Speaker 6: like how you know, is that building empathy or is
Speaker 6: that taking it away?
Speaker 5: Like we're talking, Yeah, it's taken it away. But can
Speaker 5: you have empathy for the person who's doing that understanding
Speaker 5: that where they came from and the pace that they're
Speaker 5: growing at is different than yours. And how do we
Speaker 5: walk that fine line? Because it's really nuanced. It's not
Speaker 5: an easy black and white like you get on this checklist,
Speaker 5: you get on that checklist.
Speaker 1: It's tough. Yeah. I actually remember this happening with the
Speaker 1: start of reality TV because I remember it was so new,
Speaker 1: I mean, beyond the real world, like that was something
Speaker 1: we had all watched. But when they started doing these
Speaker 1: and you saw everybody fighting and going at each other
Speaker 1: and getting like smashed on TV in a way that
Speaker 1: you're like, ooh, that person clearly is hurting to be
Speaker 1: doing this to their body repetitively. I remember my little
Speaker 1: sister and I got into an argument because she wanted
Speaker 1: to watch something while we were eating and I was like,
Speaker 1: it was over the holidays, we were home for Christmas,
Speaker 1: and I was like, turn it off. It makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: And she's like, oh my god, get over it, and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I think that it's putting this
Speaker 1: weird energy in the house and then it does something
Speaker 1: to our psyche, like I want nothing to do with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now cut to like what fifteen years later or something.
Speaker 6: I watched The Housewives all the time.
Speaker 1: I have Reality on my care and there, you know,
Speaker 1: shifted your window. It shifted my window. So it's like
Speaker 1: my threshold went up for this. But it's definitely I
Speaker 1: can say for me, I don't even think it's not
Speaker 1: a good thing. I don't it's I know it's not
Speaker 1: a good thing, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like I don't like that, Okay, can I give you
Speaker 2: guys a wreck. It's we're taking a left, but it
Speaker 2: is related. Stay with me here. I can't handle that stuff,
Speaker 2: like so many and to each his own. Like, I
Speaker 2: know a lot of people love reality TV. I can't
Speaker 2: do it. It stresses me out. It's bad for me emotionally.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also to be clear, like one of the things I
Speaker 2: find the most stressful in the world, even though I
Speaker 2: watch them because I think he's funny, or Adam Sandler movies,
Speaker 2: because watching someone make mistakes for two hours and like
Speaker 2: set their life on fire is so I have to
Speaker 2: walk around the house, I have to take breaks. My
Speaker 2: friends are like, are you okay? I like, no, I
Speaker 2: can't handle it, Like it gives me a full panic.
Speaker 2: This man, he just needs to tell people like so,
Speaker 2: I understand that I am my own brad anxious human.
Speaker 2: But the reality show Lane that I love, and you
Speaker 2: have a farm, and we're all a little exhausted by
Speaker 2: technology and would like to be disconnected. It's why you know.
Speaker 2: I've had Instagram paralysis for at least six months. I
Speaker 2: can't be there anymore. I don't know what to do
Speaker 2: about it. I try to share a little news in
Speaker 2: my stories every day and pretty much that's almost it.
Speaker 2: My respite in reality TV is a show on the
Speaker 2: History Channel called Alone. Have you watched it? No, you guys.
Speaker 2: It is like it is a survivalist show about incredible
Speaker 2: like hunters, outdoors men, environmental experts who know every herb
Speaker 2: and leaf and mushroom in the forest, and they go
Speaker 2: and they compete and they literally get dropped off in
Speaker 2: the middle of nowhere alone and they have to be
Speaker 2: their own camera crew and they get checked. I think
Speaker 2: it's like every ten days they come in and they
Speaker 2: bring a medical team to make sure no one is
Speaker 2: you know, emaciated and dying.
Speaker 1: Because you have to.
Speaker 2: Live off the land, you get to bring ten things
Speaker 2: with you and then the gear that they give to
Speaker 2: everyone that is the same and you just have to survive.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, all isolation, I mean all.
Speaker 5: Sorts of things practically, Not practically, I mean emotionally, because
Speaker 5: you're saying this is your respite, Like, what are you
Speaker 5: walking away with?
Speaker 2: I just can't stop watching it. I'm fascinated by the
Speaker 2: human spirit. I think one of the things I really
Speaker 2: like about it is watching these people be in such
Speaker 2: connection to nature, but that it always circles back to
Speaker 2: why they love the people in their lives, Like it
Speaker 2: really is human connection that we live for, and it's
Speaker 2: our connection with nature. I think that enriches our life.
Speaker 2: And oh my god, you guys, it's just so good.
Speaker 2: It is so good and you just learn all this
Speaker 2: shit about Like I'm like, you know what, prior to
Speaker 2: starting this show, I probably would have died in the
Speaker 2: woods in three Now I think I can make it
Speaker 2: a solid seven. Like I think I would last seven
Speaker 2: days and then I might die. But like, I've really
Speaker 2: learned a lot a whole week. Great, I'm telling you this.
Speaker 2: We are not getting paid to advertise this show. I'm
Speaker 2: just obsessed. I will never be able to go on
Speaker 2: it because I am not a trained survival expert, but
Speaker 2: I will watch it forever.
Speaker 1: Are you not so enious of this information that these
Speaker 1: people have?
Speaker 5: So much?
Speaker 1: I just want to know all of it, Like I
Speaker 1: think I am so bad at like gardening and all most.
Speaker 2: I want to learn. If you want to start a
Speaker 2: gardening club, I'm in. I have a plant club.
Speaker 5: Here in Nashville. Great, we literally get together go dig
Speaker 5: up plants and talk about them.
Speaker 1: My god, I would love that let's do it. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, can we FaceTime in one hundred percent?
Speaker 2: We can just we can group chat it. See, this
Speaker 2: is where the cell phones are helpful. But like, we'll
Speaker 2: get there. We'll be like, no, we're we're doing tech,
Speaker 2: but we're doing it to get into the dirt and that's.
Speaker 5: How we get How else are you going to get
Speaker 5: into all that information except by not being on your
Speaker 5: email and not being on your phone and just going
Speaker 5: out there and getting into it.
Speaker 2: And it's good to do in community because when you
Speaker 2: do it with your friends, then you're like, well, what
Speaker 2: did you grow this week?
Speaker 1: It's a dream, right, what'd you grow?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't wait to talk to you
Speaker 2: guys after you both watch your first episode of Alone.
Speaker 2: I'm vibrating.
Speaker 5: I'm so excited to watch it.
Speaker 1: I can't wait.
Speaker 2: It's so good. It's a perfect holiday show.
Speaker 5: Let's all just grow mushrooms and become experts at those
Speaker 5: I would love that. Okay, they're asking us to move
Speaker 5: on to some question, producer, are ridiculous.
Speaker 2: There are fan questions stop talking about surviving in the.
Speaker 5: Woods, speaking of Nanny Carey in the Woods. The questions
Speaker 5: are pretty funny here actually Oh, here's a really good one.
Speaker 5: Speaking of Nanny Carey in the Woods from Jackie, how
Speaker 5: did you deal with the roach cereal that you had
Speaker 5: to feed? Dan?
Speaker 1: You have to remember this. I definitely remember this. First
Speaker 1: of all.
Speaker 6: One of the most fascinating parts of.
Speaker 1: This I remember is there is like I didn't know
Speaker 1: there were certain different breeds of cockroach. Oh, the different breeds,
Speaker 1: and they use a specific breed for film and TV
Speaker 1: because they're more.
Speaker 6: Trainable these ones. What That's what the guy told me.
Speaker 1: Whether he was lying to me or not, I never
Speaker 1: like fact checked him, but yeah, it was so crazy.
Speaker 6: It's so funny because right now, like if you were like, oh,
Speaker 6: feed this cop.
Speaker 1: You got it, I'd be like, oh, but I think
Speaker 1: I was so in that Nanny Carey roll. I loved it.
Speaker 1: I don't feel so bad for Paulo. I remember that
Speaker 1: was the first time, like I looked at him and
Speaker 1: I think I even said, I was like, who did
Speaker 1: you piss off on this show? You're strapped in a
Speaker 1: bed with a cockroach this close to your face. It
Speaker 1: was so gross.
Speaker 5: How did he find it? Was he buggy? Was he
Speaker 5: okay with the bugs? Or was he a lie? No?
Speaker 1: No, I don't think he was particular.
Speaker 5: Paul's okay with a lot of things, but I don't.
Speaker 1: Think it's hard.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't like that one.
Speaker 1: No, So if I dropped it, it's on somebody else
Speaker 1: to come over it because I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I also remember because later I don't know if this
Speaker 2: season or next season, but Lisa Goldstein and I had
Speaker 2: to do a big scene with a bunch of roaches,
Speaker 2: and they are very strict about the fact that you
Speaker 2: can't touch them, squish them, hurt them, flick them. So
Speaker 2: like your natural instinct with a bug to fling it
Speaker 2: off you, and these are like protected set animals, insects,
Speaker 2: and you are not allowed to put them at any
Speaker 2: in any sort of risk. So like poor paul A
Speaker 2: knows he can't, you know, throw it off of him
Speaker 2: if it falls on them, and be probably isn't even
Speaker 2: allowed to anyway. Disgusting, I cannot.
Speaker 5: Oh honestly, it kind of makes me feel better knowing
Speaker 5: that they're trained. It makes me feel a little bit
Speaker 5: more like I care about them more. I could be like, Okay,
Speaker 5: you serve a purpose. I guess I don't have to
Speaker 5: be so scared of you, right, I don't know, it's
Speaker 5: all psychological.
Speaker 1: I've gotten really far in your life, little roach, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the one to hurt you.
Speaker 1: Very proud of where you've come, Sophia.
Speaker 5: What do they want to what do they want to know?
Speaker 1: For me?
Speaker 5: This?
Speaker 2: I actually think is really interesting because you were saying
Speaker 2: this earlier about Jackson, like the moments where you were like,
Speaker 2: how is this child not traumatized?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: Yeah, were there ever days or moments where he was
Speaker 2: afraid of you? Or did you guys gamify this stuff
Speaker 2: so much that he was having a good time?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Good question.
Speaker 6: I think he was pretty much having a good time.
Speaker 1: Because the scene where I kidnap him from the wedding
Speaker 1: and I take him to the hotel and that's where
Speaker 1: Dan comes and finds me, and he like strangles me
Speaker 1: and puts me up, gets a long against him.
Speaker 6: You would think for a kid that'd be trauma. They
Speaker 6: gave him so much candy.
Speaker 1: This okay, But I saw Jackson literally I watched it
Speaker 1: with my own eyes. He ran around the room and
Speaker 1: then he went oh because I think he was like
Speaker 1: the sugar high, so hardcore. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this kid get a pad that from Sugar.
Speaker 6: So he had a fantastic time.
Speaker 5: I think that's great.
Speaker 1: Oh good, But the corn Maze, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. He may still have dreams about that. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll have to find out. Yeah, find out one day.
Speaker 5: Was it hard being on this one? That was from
Speaker 5: Alexa And this last question is from Emma. She's saying,
Speaker 5: what was it complicated being on the Vampire Diaries and
Speaker 5: Winter Hill at the same time.
Speaker 1: I actually don't think I was. I was on Pretty
Speaker 1: Little Liars and Vampire Diurs at the same time alone.
Speaker 1: Vampire didn't start yet when I was on One Tree
Speaker 1: Hill with you, because yeah, because Paul and I were
Speaker 1: together then, so I remember he started that after I
Speaker 1: was done with that, that's right, because he was. I
Speaker 1: remember the only episode I did watch. He was doing
Speaker 1: Army Wives an episode and I went down there and
Speaker 1: we watched the episode together. I totally forgot about that. That
Speaker 1: was the one I remember watching in the hotel room
Speaker 1: and was like so excited. I think it was like my
Speaker 1: first episode coming out. We're like, oh my god, it
Speaker 1: was so great. But yeah, so no, I did pre
Speaker 1: Little Liars and Vampiredires at the same time, and that
Speaker 1: was hard because I did Little Liars for seven years
Speaker 1: and I went so in and out of that show.
Speaker 1: I mean I even did the finale while I was
Speaker 1: doing MED, so I was so used to doing everything
Speaker 1: else that it wasn't cool.
Speaker 5: Do you do you have anything else coming up that
Speaker 5: everybody should be paying attention looking out for? What do
Speaker 5: you want to talk about and plug?
Speaker 1: No? Quite Truthfully, I'm like taking especially the top of
Speaker 1: this year to kind of focus on myself and grow
Speaker 1: my own little family. So not that I'm taking a break,
Speaker 1: It's not like that. I'm just being a little pick
Speaker 1: here and kind of waiting for something really special to
Speaker 1: take me out. And until then, I'm kind of like ruminating.
Speaker 1: Are at home, focusing on a lot of writing things
Speaker 1: I want to produce, and yeah, I feel like the
Speaker 1: next acting thing that comes through, I just want it
Speaker 1: to be something really really special. Because not that I
Speaker 1: don't love everything we've done, I mean Montreal, Like, I'm
Speaker 1: so grateful to have been a part of this show
Speaker 1: that just keeps going on and on, and you know,
Speaker 1: same with the whole like Chicago World and stuff. But
Speaker 1: I've never actually watched something that I've done something that
Speaker 1: I would actually sit down and watch, So that's kind
Speaker 1: of like my new goal for the future time. And
Speaker 1: anytime I thought like I was doing a movie that
Speaker 1: I would, I'm like, oh, I'm so excited, it's like
Speaker 1: a cool Indie and then it just turned out not
Speaker 1: to really like you know, So that's kind of my
Speaker 1: goal with things next. But where that goes, I'm not
Speaker 1: quite sure. I'm just kind of like enjoying the holidays
Speaker 1: and taking it slow right now.
Speaker 5: That's great?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Nice, Well, I loved having you. I'm so glad you
Speaker 5: came back. We finally got to talk about car.
Speaker 6: I know, I know, I love talking about her.
Speaker 5: I love her.
Speaker 1: I love her.
Speaker 5: Do you have a favorite Onset moment or Wilmington moment?
Speaker 5: I mean, I know you said the feeling the comfort
Speaker 5: of home from Florida, but anything on set, any fun
Speaker 5: anecdotes for the fans out there.
Speaker 1: Honestly, Joy my most favorite one. And I know I've
Speaker 1: told you this guy. I told you guys this already.
Speaker 1: It was just that first dand Set. I was so nervous,
Speaker 1: but you just made me feel so comfortable and I
Speaker 1: still have it. I told you you gave me that
Speaker 1: it had a little turtle on it and it was
Speaker 1: that letter opener. But you knew that I was going
Speaker 1: to try to kind of break you in James up.
Speaker 1: So you said, like, this is for all the not
Speaker 1: so nice meal you'll probably be getting. But you said
Speaker 1: it and it made me laugh.
Speaker 6: And you used to protect yourself too, Yeah, to protect yourself.
Speaker 1: You made me feel so comfortable, and so that was
Speaker 1: one of the memories. Did you always have that right,
Speaker 1: like you remember the people that really were like impactful
Speaker 1: or gave you like the good piece of advice or
Speaker 1: really kind of showed up. Because we always talk about
Speaker 1: as actors it's so hard to go on other people's shows.
Speaker 1: At this point, you're in season five, you're all a
Speaker 1: bit exhausted. You've been doing this forever. You don't have
Speaker 1: to prep the same way somebody knew coming in. So
Speaker 1: when somebody stops and has that like moment of like kindness,
Speaker 1: because you were the first person I met, you were
Speaker 1: the only person who really worked with for a while.
Speaker 5: So well, that was also that was that was going
Speaker 5: to I mean, that was up to me. I had
Speaker 5: to do that for you because not that I didn't
Speaker 5: want to it's not in me, but like it is.
Speaker 5: But I did feel a way of the responsibility of
Speaker 5: that because I knew you were coming in to exactly
Speaker 5: what you're saying, an established show and you were going
Speaker 5: to try and break up this couple, and like, I didn't.
Speaker 5: I just really didn't want you to think that it
Speaker 5: would like I didn't like you or that, you know,
Speaker 5: because it was just going to be us. Like that
Speaker 5: would have been so awkward for you to come into
Speaker 5: an environment where it was like, oh, God, is she
Speaker 5: actually mad at me? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Me?
Speaker 1: And then it was really great too because I got
Speaker 1: to reconnect with Daphne, who played my mom on my
Speaker 1: first show and fine, Yeah, we shared fine. So I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, so there was a lot of like that.
Speaker 1: That show had so many firsts for me that it's like,
Speaker 1: I'll carry that with me for a long time.
Speaker 5: Do you remember going to Fondue with Daphne.
Speaker 1: Daphne, remember she was like, he's never been to Pondu before,
Speaker 1: been fond Wait, you.
Speaker 2: Guys, why was Fondue such a big deal in Wilmington?
Speaker 2: Like I just gave away the Fondue set that I
Speaker 2: bought there. I was like, I'm never going to do this.
Speaker 2: We used to go in Wilmington all the time. I
Speaker 2: don't make fun do at home, Like, who do I
Speaker 2: think I am? And I finally gave it to a friend.
Speaker 2: Was it like a two thousand and six nationwide craze?
Speaker 1: Like it was kind of yes, because I remember in
Speaker 1: high school too and being very popular, like, oh.
Speaker 5: The rest of the fondue restaurants. Well, there was a
Speaker 5: fond restaurant the Melting Pot, and we all sat around,
Speaker 5: we had dinner, and Daphne was kind of like she
Speaker 5: was game for it at first, like oh, interesting, okay, fun,
Speaker 5: you know, And we're sticking the raw meat on the
Speaker 5: stick and cooking it over the flames. She's like, how
Speaker 5: long does this take? About an hour and a half
Speaker 5: into the meal, the guy comes over and he's like, okay,
Speaker 5: so I'll clear your plates, can I can I get
Speaker 5: you dessert? And Daphne looks at him and she goes,
Speaker 5: do I have to cook it?
Speaker 1: I can't believe I remember. So she's like, I can't
Speaker 1: believe I pay to cook my own food?
Speaker 2: Obsessed? Hey, guys, we should take her to we should
Speaker 2: take her to Korean barbecue in La just to just
Speaker 2: to make her laugh.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it'd be fun.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Well, it's great to see you, mama. You look great.
Speaker 5: You seem so happy.
Speaker 1: Always nice to talk with you. So good to see you. Guys.
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