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Speaker 1: Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebina, a space where no

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Speaker 1: question is off limits and storylines become lifelines. The views

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Speaker 1: shared by our guests are meant to inform, entertain, and empower.

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Speaker 1: From the laughs to the lessons. Just remember, tough times

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Speaker 1: don't last, but professional Homegirls do enjoy the show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, professional Homegirls, eshagirl Ebine here and I hope all

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Speaker 2: is cute. Now, before we jump into this week's episode,

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Speaker 2: let's do a little housekeeping. First things first, the new

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Speaker 2: website for Pretty Private with Ebina is officially live. Okay,

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Speaker 2: And with that being said, we are gearing up for

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Speaker 2: the Professional Homegirls second annual Turkey Drive in my hometown, Memphis, Tennessee. Now,

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Speaker 2: I am still working out the logistics, child, but listen,

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Speaker 2: it is going to be a whole community vibe. You

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Speaker 2: can come out, you can grab a turkey, you can

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Speaker 2: keep with me, and we are going to have a

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Speaker 2: good time. So if you would like to donate, please

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Speaker 2: because the goal is to provide two hundred turkeys, and

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Speaker 2: we also are working closely with Whole Food, so shout

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Speaker 2: out to them. Just hit the link in the show

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Speaker 2: notes below. And speaking of Memphis, chiall, listen, I actually

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Speaker 2: went back home to celebrate my twentieth year high school

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Speaker 2: reunion at the high school, Central High, and it was

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Speaker 2: just so nice seeing everybody, Like, Like, don't get me wrong, now,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I would ever move back home, but

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Speaker 2: it feels so good to be back home in the South,

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Speaker 2: Like I feel like I needed a change of scenery,

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Speaker 2: and going back home to Memphis is always like a

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Speaker 2: breath of fresh air sometimes. And plus I haven't seen

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Speaker 2: my classmates in forever. And for the most part, everybody

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Speaker 2: looked really good, very successful.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Miguel. He took us out, got bottles,

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Speaker 2: drinks and shit like it was really a good time. Also,

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Speaker 2: everybody didn't even age like so for the most part,

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Speaker 2: everybody looked really good. So shout out to the graduating

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Speaker 2: class of two thousand and five Deed High School, Central High.

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Speaker 2: And also y'all, last but not least, we are literally

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Speaker 2: one hundred subscribers away from hitting one thousand on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: And once we do that, your girl can finally start

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Speaker 2: monetizing the channel. Okay, and let me tell y'all, pushing

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Speaker 2: out these videos on YouTube that all of y'all wanted

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Speaker 2: me to do is not cheap. Okay, so do me

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Speaker 2: a favor. Head over to YouTube, type in the professional

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Speaker 2: Homegirl and hit subscribe, Like right now, hold me down,

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Speaker 2: don't hold me up. Now, let's get into this speek's episode.

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Speaker 2: My guest takes us deep inside her world as a

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Speaker 2: stripper here in New York City. We get into some

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Speaker 2: hot takes about the industry, her journey from being at

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Speaker 2: HBC you grab to step in into this line of work,

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Speaker 2: and the path that led her there. We also unpacked

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Speaker 2: the growing conversations around strip clubs, becoming you and I,

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Speaker 2: and the realities behind this stage, especially being a brownie,

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Speaker 2: and so much more. So, y'all, let's get ready. This

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Speaker 2: is such a great episode, and also part two will

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Speaker 2: be dropping after the Spooky Series. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: interrupt the Spooky Series because they're so good this year

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Speaker 2: and I know it's everyone's favorite, so please stay tuned

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Speaker 2: for part two. But for the most part, get ready

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Speaker 2: because a New York strip of Story Part one starts now.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, to my guests, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for being on a show. How you doing, how you feeling?

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited, Let's do it. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Quice of course, man why you were saying earlier off

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Speaker 2: the area that she was nervous. What are you nervous about?

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Speaker 4: You're a pro, I know, you know, it's so different

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Speaker 3: Know why, but I just yeah.

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Speaker 2: Let's tell everyone how we met. I think it's so cool.

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Speaker 2: I like to give these like little backstories with certain

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Speaker 2: keep on the show. So we have a mutual friend

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Speaker 2: shout out to Manny, and he was telling well, he

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Speaker 2: he was like, well, how about we just go on

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Speaker 2: and next thing, you know, our guests just came out

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Speaker 3: Yes, I live a double life.

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Speaker 4: And you guys, shout out Manny, yeahsting industry right.

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Speaker 2: Like yes, listen the podcast and the industry is truly

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Speaker 2: and everybody else's doing this because podcast is not easy,

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Speaker 2: as you know, because you were trying to get into

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had actually just yesterday like an epiphany on

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Speaker 4: like we know we're doing, let's move, Like, so.

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Speaker 2: Know what you're doing. Why are you so like I

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Speaker 2: feel like you like get in your own way with that,

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Speaker 2: like like you do you feel like you overthink with it?

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Speaker 4: I think it's always a guessing game on how people

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Speaker 4: they have the range to understand the duality that not

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Speaker 4: just that I have, but like that black women have,

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Speaker 4: Like we wear a lot of hats, like a lot

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Speaker 4: part of that is what structurally it's just set up

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Speaker 4: that way that we have to. But even aside from

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Speaker 3: It's twenty twenty five. This economy waits for nobody.

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Speaker 2: So listen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to like just be bold and audacious

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Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, So before we get into your story,

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Speaker 5: I want to do some hot takes because I just

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Speaker 5: love I just love how you put two or two

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So meta glasses in the club?

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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts chiw okay?

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Speaker 2: Which I found so interesting because I'm like, wow, I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, most clubs have like no cameras

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Speaker 3: But you know, because metaglasses are.

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Speaker 4: So much more covert even in the strip club because

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Speaker 4: let's be real, like people are like, oh, like you know,

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Speaker 3: Tell, but like not really like a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. But how like how

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Speaker 4: Know exactly so meta in the glasses, it's a no

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Speaker 4: for me, dog, I mean, excuse me. Medaglasses in the club,

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Speaker 4: it's a no for me. Like I it's a concern

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Speaker 4: of mine. I made a little TikTok video that like

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Speaker 4: for less, if that makes sense, Like it's never I

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Speaker 2: To protect yourself and you don't want to say too much.

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Speaker 2: But I was looking at your TikTok video. I was

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Speaker 2: be a different type of nigga that bring some metaglasses

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Speaker 4: I have this theory that like everything that happens in

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Speaker 3: What I mean, Like, for instance, if we're speaking.

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Speaker 4: Specifically on metaglasses, like people are filming people without their consent,

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Speaker 4: is it called on camera that these people that are

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Speaker 3: Is that okay?

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Speaker 4: Like we very rarely see that in again, the real

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Speaker 4: like everything that happens in the real world is just

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Speaker 3: Like okay, like you know, people like, Okay, I'm a.

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Speaker 4: Black woman, I work in a gentleman's club right now,

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Speaker 4: and there is a difference between like a strip club

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Speaker 2: It's one of my questions.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, we can get into that.

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Speaker 4: But like off the rip, like racist hiring practices happen

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Speaker 3: You know, can I say nigga's on here?

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Speaker 2: Gary Black, Like can say nigga? But yeah, like we

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Speaker 2: be famous now that we can.

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Speaker 4: Look y'all.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny that we missed. He was like, you're

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Speaker 2: isn't it. I'm like, girl, we are the same, no.

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Speaker 4: Really so yeah no, but like niggas saying all types

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Speaker 4: heightened in the club. There's alcohol, there's dark lights, there's

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Speaker 4: music that like enhances that type of environment. There's booty,

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Speaker 4: there's titties, there's gyrating, like there's all types of things,

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Speaker 4: and like, yeah, everything is enhanced in the club that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, what were your thoughts? And I thought this

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Speaker 2: one was very interesting. What are your thoughts on women

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Speaker 2: and men outside the industry taking pole classes or doing

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Speaker 2: post showcases for fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, you really did research.

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Speaker 2: You know what's so funny because so I used to

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Speaker 2: take pole dancing classes, right, and shout out to her

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Speaker 3: I remember her.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I think I took my first ever pole class

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Speaker 4: over there, Yes, in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like in a Brownstone.

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Speaker 2: Yes, god, yeah, she's a queen. I was so sad

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna hit her up. I was she listening,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit you up. But and I remember thinking

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Speaker 3: Like engaging exactly exactly. So yeah, there's that, But as

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: She was like, oh, I like what you hit there?

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Speaker 3: Soon and you know, it felt like okay.

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Speaker 4: There are very few places where I feel affirmed in

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Speaker 3: Right for the most part, I feel like I have

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Speaker 4: And going back to your initial question about like, you know,

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Speaker 3: Like like you know, foreign exotic.

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Speaker 4: And I do get a little annoyed when there's like

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Speaker 4: I'm here. I could have gone to work, but I'm here.

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Speaker 4: I want to get my moves up and like improve

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Speaker 2: All to me, Like this is you studying low key?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is my continued education and my degree exactly.

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Speaker 4: And I just I find a lot of the times

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Speaker 3: Like you know, a part of they get it. But

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Speaker 4: A lot of these instructors one on one it's like

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Speaker 4: those are that's my hot take on like wole dancers

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Speaker 3: Right, you know, then it's no problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And last, but not least, what are your thoughts what

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I actually even think that one got closed down, Like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I think, okay, strip clubs being unionized.

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Speaker 4: I think it's so interesting that the only strip clubs

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Speaker 4: like where unions kind of started, right like the industrial

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Speaker 3: That's like a New York thing.

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Speaker 4: And so there was a strip club that was unionized

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Speaker 3: That club closed down. Did it work or not? Who knows?

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Speaker 4: A little spicy with their leadership. There's like what is

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Speaker 4: The leaders of unions are oftentimes quote unquote like sleeping

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Speaker 4: it's not specific, like what is it called? Like what

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Speaker 3: Together because there's some type of financial gain or something.

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Speaker 2: So I can only imagine what it looks like in

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, there, I don't think there

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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three they were

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Speaker 4: working to unionize, they it got passed. Did they build

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Speaker 4: I think the club actually like closed down so that

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Speaker 4: the union doesn't exist. And when they did unionize, they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess entertainer. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: But all that to say, I think it's a start.

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Speaker 3: But I think what would take it a step further

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Speaker 4: If these clubs just knew that, like we're an organized

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Speaker 3: That there is no need for a union.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, like these these companies that are often mail

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Speaker 4: led just get it the first time that we say something,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, we go from there.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: back to the show. You know, when I'm listening to

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Speaker 2: and things we have witness But I'm like the fact

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00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: that people are even considering to start a union in

440
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 2: this industry lets me know that people, especially women and

441
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 2: especially with those who have like disabilities or anything else

442
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 2: that's restricting them to get a job in this economy.

443
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 2: But it just lets me know, like people, it's still

444
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: rough out there, yeah, and people are still being treated unfairly.

445
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I honestly think that's gonna be us foreverything really,

446
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 4: Like I don't want to put that out.

447
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 2: There, I know, but it's just so crazy because I'm

448
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: just like with all the race and stuff, and like,

449
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, shrip clubs today is not the trip

450
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 2: clubs of yesterday. Like it's a complete difference. And the

451
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 2: only reason why I know because I used to always

452
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: go to strip clubs, especially when I was younger and

453
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: being from the South. So it's just crazy how like,

454
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: And obviously you could see a big different in strip clubs,

455
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 2: but it's just crazy how people the union is needed

456
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 2: in today's strip club industry because I feel like it

457
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 2: would have slowed down a little bit.

458
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't Does that make sense? Yeah, no, it

459
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: does make sense.

460
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I genuinely feel that, Like again, unions are what

461
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 4: we have right now, right, because that's just like the

462
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: most successible like answer.

463
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 3: But again, like why do we even need unions to

464
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 3: begin with?

465
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: Like, right, I think?

466
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 4: And I think that's not just for again, everything that

467
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 4: happens in the strict club is just like emphasized version

468
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 4: of what happens in the formal economy.

469
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 3: Why does anyone need a union?

470
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 4: Like, and it's because these companies are gonna they just

471
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 4: like these men in the club, You're got to try

472
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 4: and take the most for the least. And that I

473
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 4: mean that when it comes to like a customer that

474
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 4: pays for a forty dollars dance, they are going to

475
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 4: try and like touch somewhere where they're not supposed to

476
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 4: or something like that. That's why you got to give

477
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 4: them their little leg marine and the rights, like, hey,

478
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 4: heads up before we get started, you know, let me

479
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 4: know if I make you uncomfortable, and I'll do the same.

480
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 4: This is a no contact club, or you might even

481
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 4: have to tell them, like I'm a no contact girl,

482
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 4: like even if that's not the club's rules. Each dancer

483
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 4: has their own boundaries and their own you know, just

484
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 4: rule of like how they do business and work. And yeah,

485
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 4: it's the same way that a customer is gonna try

486
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 4: and get the most for the least, always try to

487
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 4: underpay you and overwork you.

488
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Speaker 2: It's the same way that in corporate America that I do.

489
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly.

490
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 4: And again corporate America, they have unions as well, and

491
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: there are still lawsuits that get violed workers' rights that

492
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 4: get violated pretty regularly.

493
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Speaker 2: So yeah, really not surprised. Maybe I just I felt

494
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,479
Speaker 2: like that because I mean, times have changed so much

495
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 2: and I feel like the strip and you can correct

496
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong, but I just like the strip

497
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 2: club culture is not what it used to be, you know.

498
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Speaker 4: It's definitely not like even like there's times where like

499
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 4: like I joined the industry after twenty twenty, So that's

500
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 4: you like when you talk to the girls that have

501
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 4: been in this work for like you know, before COVID

502
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Yeah, like you try to tell them,

503
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 4: oh my god, like I had a five thousand dollars night,

504
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 4: like I did so good.

505
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 3: They'd be like, girl, you should have been here in

506
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, like like that ain't shit like.

507
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 4: They said it no money, yes, uh, And yeah, like

508
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,239
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, strip clubs are so different right now,

509
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 4: not just like bruh with like the money that's made,

510
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 4: but also just like the roles, right like there used

511
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 4: to be promoters in clubs again, whether whether or not

512
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 4: they helped or hurt who knows.

513
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 6: Like it was like a real ecosystem, yes, exactly, exactly,

514
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 6: exactly exactly. And to add on to that, like at

515
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 6: my particular club, Like the people that work in the bathroom,

516
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 6: they don't get paid an hourly, like there's strictly tips,

517
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 6: and so how you pay the dancer is ultimately how

518
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 6: like other people in the club get paid.

519
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 4: And so back going to your point about like an ecosystem.

520
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 4: I actually even learned from this book that I was

521
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 4: reading by an author named doctor Lashawn Harris. She wrote

522
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 4: a book called sex Workers, Psychos, and Number Runners, and

523
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 4: it was about black women in New York City's underground economy.

524
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 4: Oh make an amazing point that like the informal funds

525
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 4: the formal Like when you think of like this underground

526
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 4: work that's under the table, work that's often unlicensed, untaxed,

527
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 4: stuff like that, you know that is the money that

528
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 4: gets pushed into the formal economy. When I come home

529
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 4: from work and I got to go home, I have

530
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 4: to call an uber or something like that.

531
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: The money I made from the club is what's paying

532
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: that Uber driver to take me home. And ultimately what

533
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: does that uber driver do with that money? You know,

534
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 3: they put it back into their own community.

535
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: Right, even if you go.

536
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 4: Back to like the bumpy Johnson's of them all, like

537
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 4: those like oh G, you know like that that street

538
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 4: money was all simly being used to fund and finance

539
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 4: like turkey drives and all types of like community like

540
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 4: you know get togethers and stuff like that, like literally

541
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 4: injecting the community with like research so that those people

542
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 4: can continue to do the same thing. So there really

543
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 4: is an ecosystem, Like.

544
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: Nah, it really is.

545
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: It really is.

546
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So how did you get into this because I

547
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: know from us having conversations you graduated from an HBCU.

548
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: Uh you have degrees yeh, So how did it How

549
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: did you get from graduating from HBCU to get into

550
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: being first introduced to dancing?

551
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, so boom I have been boom boom, it

552
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: just happens. Shell. I was, I am.

553
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 4: I've been a journalist for the last six years working

554
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 4: in the public radio sphere and like yeah, in podcasting,

555
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 4: like back when it wasn't even cool child, Like I

556
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: mean we're talking to like twenty eighteen.

557
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and.

558
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was I think a podcast and like only

559
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: like five people had podcasts, but they were like they

560
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: was like the Godfather's Godmothers of.

561
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 4: It exactly, yes, and then the fo had them before

562
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 4: were largely like white like they're like no shade, but

563
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 4: like these like white losers talking about.

564
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: Like just not It's like people thought podcasting was radio

565
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: exactly exactly.

566
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 4: And so I think I joined the journalism industry towards

567
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 4: the tail end of the journalism industry essentially being like

568
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 4: defunded and like dying for real, like right, And so

569
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 4: I had a few like back to like freelance jobs

570
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: and like three month contract roles and they just kept

571
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 4: three month contracting three month contracting.

572
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: And during that time, I was working on a specific

573
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: really well known show.

574
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 4: About the economy, and I I was working there, and

575
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 4: I was also working at a restaurant and in the

576
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 4: restaurant industry. They got rid of my role as like

577
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 4: a lead server, and they were like, hey, like we

578
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 4: got rid of your role, but you could become a

579
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 4: manager you get paid more but no tips, or you

580
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 4: can stay a server and get paid.

581
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: The same, and like that's just what it is. Those

582
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: are our options.

583
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: And at that time, my role as essentially like a

584
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 4: business reporter kind of they just ended like a three

585
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 4: month contract and there was no other renewal. So I

586
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 4: guess something about like working on a show about the

587
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 4: economy and money all the time and listening to people,

588
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 4: you know, our guests talk about money, combined with like

589
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 4: you know, being in the restaurant industry where like I

590
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: kind of learned like, okay, this is how you create

591
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 4: like a really warm and welcoming environment in a restaurant.

592
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm noticing like when I wear some

593
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 4: lashes and I put on a little face, like my

594
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 4: tips are increasing and stuff like that. I just like, yeah,

595
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 4: like combined it and maybe perhaps also going to college

596
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 4: in Atlanta where it's so normalized, or I should say,

597
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 4: going to college in the South where it's so normalized.

598
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 4: Like the strip club like I mean the girls in

599
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 4: Magic City had parking lots, I mean parking spots dedicated

600
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 4: to them.

601
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying the South is so different than

602
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: compared to New York for obvious reasons. Moy some time

603
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: when it comes to strip clubs, like I remember, not

604
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: to cut you off. I remember when I used to

605
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: go to ship clubs in the South, Like you know,

606
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: bitches get naked, like but as naked, but it's like

607
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: a party, Like it's a vibe like hot ways, everything,

608
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: good music, rappers and shit. I started going ship clubs

609
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: in New York.

610
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 5: I'm like, what is this?

611
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: It was a culture shock.

612
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: I have theories about that too, and I feel like

613
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 4: it's rooted in like blackness, right, like what's more present

614
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 4: in the South compared to like what's missing in New

615
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 4: York and like girls allowed to like get away with

616
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 4: on the pole and on the stage in New York

617
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 4: compared to like how they give it up in Atlanta.

618
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: Like it's and it wasn't always like that, but yeah,

619
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: that was deep guys.

620
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: But because they don't will be working up here.

621
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: No, And New York City is a very like star

622
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: tenders centric like region.

623
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, even in New York, that was good.

624
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: I think it's even interesting that, like, and I know

625
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 4: we were like beering off, so like really back people

626
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 4: on whatever. But I think it's interesting that in New

627
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: York a lot of the stages wrap around the bar.

628
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 4: And I feel like it's because in New York, like

629
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 4: the bar is what makes the most money in these

630
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: New York City strip clubs, right, and and the startenders

631
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 4: that work the bar and then the stage is behind

632
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 4: like wrapped around the bar. There's even this crazy rule

633
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: that like when you throw money, whatever hits the ground

634
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 4: is the startenders and then whatever makes it to the

635
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 4: stage is the dancers.

636
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: So like you're literally like that could not find magic city.

637
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: No, but no magic city where there's like whole ass

638
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 3: like again going back.

639
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 4: To the ecosystem like sweepers, yes, pushing the money to

640
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 4: the dancers, Like no, that would not exist in you.

641
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: Know, in Atlanta, and it would be a whole brawl

642
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: like what.

643
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: It makes no sense?

644
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 4: But yeah, well and that was something that so initially

645
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 4: I wanted to be a star tender because they seem

646
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 4: like they had the most visibility, they were making the

647
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 4: most money, Like it seemed like, okay, the money is clear,

648
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 4: it's it's the star tenders that are making it, not

649
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: the dancers. And I applied to I reached out to

650
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 4: the manager.

651
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: Wait how did you get to that point? Like you

652
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: leave the restaurant and like you know, I'm gonna try

653
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: this out.

654
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: Oh boom. So they got rid of my role and

655
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: I just decided I was like brou at that, like restaurant,

656
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: I'm getting overpaid and overwork like underpaid, yeah, excuse me,

657
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: underpaid and overwork.

658
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 4: Like if anyone is going to underpay and overwork me,

659
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 4: I truly feel like it should be me, Like why

660
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 4: they're never gonna understand my value. They're never gonna And

661
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 4: also they were like bringing in more servers and starting

662
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: them off at higher hour these like even though I

663
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 4: was the one training them. It was crazy and yeah, no,

664
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 4: I was just like enough is enough, like you know,

665
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 4: And also I remember someone else I knew from college

666
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 4: was a startender in Blue Flame in.

667
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: Atlanta, and like she looked like she was like a

668
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: great life life.

669
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 4: On social media, like hair, always done, traveling, you know,

670
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 4: truly didn't do it right. Yeah, it didn't seem like

671
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 4: she was having like the problems that I was having.

672
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 4: And I was like, you know what, that startender, that

673
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 4: night life might have to be the move, Like I'm young,

674
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: why not? I was twenty four at the time. I'm

675
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: twenty seven now about to be twenty eight next month,

676
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: so yeah, why not? And out to the folks at

677
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: Starlets and I was like, hey, like what, like what

678
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 4: do I need? What do you need from me? I

679
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 4: want to be a startender?

680
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: What do you think?

681
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 4: And they invited me in and then they like looked

682
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 4: at my Instagram. I printed out a resume. She literally

683
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: put that down. She kind of just like looked me

684
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: up and down.

685
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 3: And like asked to see my instagram and like I

686
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: was like, what did you have on? I was just

687
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 3: wearing like a.

688
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: Little light slim fit like shirt and like some black

689
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 4: like yoga pants. Definitely something like a little bit more formal.

690
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 4: Ye had form fitting like it was still getting fashion now,

691
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 4: but you know it was still getting fashion. I didn't

692
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 4: go in just dressed as anything. Haroin, little low braided

693
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 4: ponytail with some you know, baby hairs, child like all

694
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 4: of it right, And she kind of just like looked

695
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 4: at my Instagram. I asked her like, oh, is there

696
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 4: anything you're looking for specifically like that I could perhaps

697
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 4: like you know, expand on and she was just like no,

698
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 4: and she just handed back my phone and she was

699
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 4: like we'll call you and let you know.

700
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 3: And of course there was no call.

701
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 4: And I reached out and I was like, hey, like

702
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: any updates, and they were like, okay, we're not hiring

703
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 4: for startenders, but you could be a dancer, like come

704
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 4: in and like pay the house feed and go from there.

705
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 3: How much is that? How much does the house feed?

706
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

707
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: So at like booty.

708
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: Clubs and strip clubs, I genuinely feel like the house

709
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 4: fees are much more expensive than gentlemen's clubs.

710
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 3: Of course, yes, hour and I think.

711
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 4: It started at like eighty dollars or something like that,

712
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 4: and then it increased ten dollars every hour until I

713
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 4: think midnight, where it's just like one hundred forty dollars flat.

714
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: And wait, you got paid for every hour?

715
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 4: No, no, the time that you come in, Oh, exactly.

716
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 4: So if you come in at eight o'clock, house feed

717
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 4: starts at eighty at yeah, eighty dollars. If you come

718
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 4: in at nine, it'll be ninety dollars. It's the one

719
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 4: time payment kind of thing. And that specific to New York.

720
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 4: There's some clubs in Atlanta where like you have to

721
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 4: pay like a certain percentage of all of the.

722
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: Money that you've made. And there's even I think Area

723
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: twenty nine in Houston.

724
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 4: All the money that gets like kind of made or

725
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 4: whatever for the whole club, they have people counted up

726
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 4: and then they divide it by how many dancers are there,

727
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 4: so like everyone is working or everyone is getting paid,

728
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 4: even if they didn't put in any work. Like it's

729
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 4: a crazy system. And that was just for starlets, like

730
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 4: and I was like, you know what, but that there

731
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 4: is a black strip club in New York.

732
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 3: It was called the More Cabaret.

733
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 4: They're closed now, but it was actually the people that

734
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 4: owned it were justin Leaboi and his brother.

735
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: Like the l boy thing.

736
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 2: Oh I remember that, yes, yes, yeah, and that's fact

737
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: because he used to be a party promoter.

738
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and for you.

739
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 4: I know, his brother ended up opening like a strip

740
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 4: club in Brooklyn and that was like the only strip

741
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 4: club in New York that had like black startenders because

742
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: I shortly learned after joining the industry that like if

743
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 4: you want to be a star tender, like the requirements

744
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: essentially are you have to be racially ambiguous, you know,

745
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 4: double bbl cackd up, like you know, there is a

746
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 4: whole kind of list of things that you need before.

747
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: You even get through the door.

748
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 4: And that specific club in Brooklyn, they were like the

749
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 4: only club that had like black star tenders that like

750
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 4: we're still you know, surged and stuff like that. But yeah, anyway,

751
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 4: I just decided to like be a dancer there. I

752
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: was like, whatever, let's try this out.

753
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: And how often was this your first time dance? Like

754
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: that was your first night there?

755
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: I'm so skipping this Okay, hold on.

756
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 4: There was another club actually in Queens that I started

757
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 4: at that was my first time ever dancing. It didn't

758
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 4: even have a poll in it. I paid seventy dollars

759
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: to get in and I made three hundred and fifty

760
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 4: dollars that night. And I think the only reason why

761
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 4: I made hundred and fifty dollars that night because there.

762
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 3: Were no other dancers there, Like it was just me.

763
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 4: The four star tenders out were there and like a

764
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 4: group of niggas that just wanted to celebrate a birthday.

765
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: And I kid you not.

766
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 4: When they first came in, like it was just me,

767
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 4: it was my first night. They were like okay, like

768
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 4: a little bit, but I was just there for the experience, goddamn.

769
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 4: Like I think being a journalist, you know, a part

770
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: of me was just like, you know, I'm under cover.

771
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 3: I'm on the job, right, Yeah, Like a win's a win.

772
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 4: And yeah, they came in and they were like, Okay,

773
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 4: we're gonna wait till the party gets a little bit

774
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 4: more lit. Nobody else came in. An hour had passed,

775
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 4: the drinks started flowing, they were like all right, cluck

776
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 4: it just danced for us and they just like kept

777
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 4: throwing money, like three hundred and fifty dollars and like

778
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 4: it all went to me.

779
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: It was there.

780
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 3: It was like five or six, but they were all men.

781
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: It was a it was a mixed group.

782
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 4: The birthday boy was the mail and then like maybe

783
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 4: one or two other dudes and then the rest were

784
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 4: like women.

785
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: So I was like two two shook. If they were

786
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: all you.

787
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: Know, niggas, I probably would have been like a little

788
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: more like lord like right, But I was just like

789
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 4: look like this, I'm not even in this side of queens,

790
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 4: like regularly who cares?

791
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 3: Like let's and I needed the money, like I had

792
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: just bought a car, like it was time.

793
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 4: So at the car notes were you know coming up

794
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: or whatever, I was like this is do or guy, Yeah,

795
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 4: I had my first night. I did need like a

796
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 4: little like shot or two just to like yeah yes

797
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 4: and like get my head in the game. And I

798
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 4: think I left at like three am or something like that,

799
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: and it was just like what like two or three

800
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 4: hours of like dancing and I made three hundred and

801
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 4: fifty dollars and it wasn't a lot like but I

802
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 4: think in that moment I was just like okay, like

803
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 4: three more nights of this, and like this is like

804
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 4: way more than I'd be making like at the restaurant,

805
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 4: like way more than like my journalist job where I

806
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 4: was getting cap dollars an hour. Like it all just

807
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 4: started to make sense to me and I just locked

808
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 4: in from there. I stayed at that club for like

809
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 4: a month or two, and then I went to you know,

810
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: the a More Cabaret or the Brooklyn Strip Club, and.

811
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 3: From there it was up.

812
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: So how was your experience there and did you, like,

813
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: did somebody take you underneath their wing? Because I do

814
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 2: know like I have I know people who have danced

815
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 2: in the past, and they always talk about like it's

816
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: important to have like the right people in your corner

817
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 2: and also just you know, get like a mentor in

818
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: the game.

819
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: I think that like mentorship and the strip club was

820
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: much more of a thing back then than.

821
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: It is, and I think it's really changed.

822
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying, yeah, I felt like, because let's be real,

823
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 4: if you have like a young dancer in the club

824
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: that doesn't know how this works, they can suck up

825
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 4: the money for every like if they're doing like, you know,

826
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 4: dances for like way less than like what they all

827
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 4: and stuff like that, like you know, it is in

828
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 4: your best interest to pull that dancer aside and be like, look,

829
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 4: this is how it goes, like don't let them touch you.

830
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 4: Don't let them like they have to work for like

831
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 4: whatever is like for us, Like they're here for us.

832
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 4: You are you know, the thing that they want to

833
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 4: come in here for. Use that as leverage, right, So, No,

834
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 4: there wasn't any like mentorship for real in the club,

835
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 4: like when I came in, because again I joined in

836
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 4: like twenty twenty two maybe or twenty yeah, twenty twenty

837
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 4: three or the yeah, like late twenty twenty two, And I.

838
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: Mean do they even still have house moms? Is this

839
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: still a thing?

840
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's house moms there. Some of them are former dancers,

841
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 4: some of them are not, like they all for the

842
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 4: most part are like older and like you know, so

843
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, like some cares, some don't, like they're

844
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 4: you know, nobody in the club is like your friend though,

845
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 4: like knowing. But but the role of the house mom

846
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 4: once upon a time, yes, was definitely to like make

847
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 4: sure that your hair was good and your nails were good,

848
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 4: you're up to standard, like.

849
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: You know, I've been trying to interview a house mom

850
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: for so long, and I've been in conversation with this

851
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: one woman and I just stopped hitting her up. She's

852
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 2: in uh Miami, okay, And what's the club of Miami.

853
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: King of Diamonds.

854
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: I think there's King of Diamonds, There's Booby Trap, I.

855
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: Think one of the other. But she was supposed to

856
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: come on the show, and this is when I would

857
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: have first started, so it had to be like almost

858
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: damn near five six years ago, and I've been trying

859
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: to hit her up for like two three years and

860
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, I get no word or and I'm like, girl,

861
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: you cannot be that busy, Like.

862
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: Come on now, bro.

863
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 4: Everybody in the ship club, I feel like they just

864
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 4: want to get paid, like to like do like anything,

865
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 4: like be featured on the show whatever, like like girl

866
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 4: like honestly, but I have some house foms that would

867
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 4: be down to talk with you, I think, like if

868
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 4: and they were like working back when, like you know,

869
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 4: New York was like lit as like a stupend.

870
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 3: Like in New York.

871
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, I definitely need to set that up. But no, yeah,

872
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: mentorship in the club, no, but at that particular club,

873
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 4: like there was I feel like yeah, maybe I'm gonna

874
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 4: say the name, but like feel free to do whatever.

875
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 4: I don't think she would mind at all though. But

876
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 4: like there was a girl who ended up being on

877
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: Johnson's Cabaret like recently, and when there was a night

878
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 4: where only the two of us came to work, we

879
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 4: had like I kind of kept to myself at that

880
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 4: at that particular club because like it was a little hood,

881
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 4: like you have to walk tough like a metal detector

882
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 4: to come in, and I just felt like the safest

883
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 4: thing to do, which is just keep to myself.

884
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: Be that like weird girl that don't talk to nobody

885
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 3: in the dressing room on the club. Fine, Like I'll

886
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: do that, I'll be that. That's fine.

887
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 4: But there was one night, it was like a Wednesday

888
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 4: night and it was only the two of us that

889
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 4: came to work, and there was customers that came and

890
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 4: like this girl like she got a body for real,

891
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: Like she does ballroom as well, so like she like

892
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: is a true performer.

893
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: So like, oh she's dark skin. That's not a conversation

894
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: you had, yes, yeah, oh yes exactly.

895
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,479
Speaker 4: And she it was just us too that came to work,

896
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 4: and she's like a og dancer and you know everyone.

897
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 3: When I saw it was just us.

898
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 4: Two coming to work, I was like, lord, like, she's

899
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 4: about to take all the money. It's fine, I'm not

900
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 4: no hater. Let me just sit because that particular club

901
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 4: you couldn't leave before three thirty, like, which was definitely

902
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 4: like not allowed. But like again, who's going to hold

903
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 4: them accountable?

904
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 3: No one, But.

905
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, you couldn't leave before three thirty like we had

906
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 4: like once you were in, you were in, and that's that.

907
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 4: So I was like, child like, let me just wait

908
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 4: till three thirty, get out of her waist so she

909
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 4: could make her money and like just take an l

910
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 4: for tonight, try again tomorrow.

911
00:44:59,640 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 3: It is.

912
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 4: It is cool, and I think but they were still

913
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: doing like stage rotation, so they were calling her on stage,

914
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 4: calling me on stage. Took a break for a little bit,

915
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: started again, and she knew how to work the poll everything,

916
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 4: and when there were customers that came and they threw

917
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 4: all their money on her, like she definitely made over

918
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 4: like fifteen hundred dollars that night, like in a few hours.

919
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 4: And I went on stage just to kind of like

920
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 4: waste the time, do what I needed to do. So

921
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 4: I don't get in trouble, and she threw a hundred

922
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 4: dollars on me like like like as a dancer, and

923
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 4: I was like, what, like that is.

924
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 3: So kind, Like what the fuck?

925
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 4: Like you've definitely kept that all for yourself and like

926
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 4: it is what it is, that's the name of the game.

927
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 4: And then like that night, just like you know, I

928
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 4: was like, hey, like I drove here.

929
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: You want me to drop you off?

930
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: Like and we just like bonded in the car real quick,

931
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: and like we ended up being like cool, and she

932
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 4: kind of lent some like mentorship along the way, and

933
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 4: not in like a way of like you know, this

934
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 4: is how you do it stuff like that, but it

935
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 4: was like casual conversation, Hey, I just joined this industry

936
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,479
Speaker 4: a few months ago, like this is what I've learned.

937
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: Have you noticed this as well? What do you think?

938
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: And yeah, it just kind of worked out that way.

939
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think like the mentorship in twenty twenty

940
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 4: five or like contemporary post COVID, it looks more like

941
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 4: genuine bonds that are fostered and created in the club,

942
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 4: and you know, there is like a level of like

943
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 4: individualism in the club, like whether that's to keep you

944
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 4: safe or just like whatever.

945
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 3: I don't think that that same like ideology.

946
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: Of like the wrong dancer in the club can mess

947
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 4: up everyone's money if you don't like pull them to

948
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 4: the side. I think there's more just like now, like

949
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 4: it's just us anyway, so like how you creat that

950
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 4: girl is not going to be how they Okay, if

951
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 4: you want like a twenty dollars dance from Diamond, go

952
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 4: get a twenty dollars dance from Diamond, But not that

953
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 4: for me.

954
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: And that's just where we are.

955
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel like strip clubs today are not

956
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 2: as competitive as they were back.

957
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: In the day.

958
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, probably because like yeah, there's.

959
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like I said earlier, like back in the day,

960
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: like they'll be like no, girl, we're not doing it

961
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: because you're gonna fuck it up for everybody else. But

962
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: I think now it's like, girl, you do what you

963
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 2: do and not do what I do.

964
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it depends on the club, and I

965
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 4: think it depends on how much like foot traffic is

966
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 4: coming in the club.

967
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 3: Like I think if there's not that many people coming in.

968
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 4: The club, the girls start to switch up like real

969
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 4: quick for free, for a dollar for anything, a dollar.

970
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 3: For anything for free, like because I mean it's only

971
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: a certain amount of customers coming in and there's more

972
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 3: if there's more dancers and there are customers, like you know,

973
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 3: someone's not gonna get paid and like you're determined that

974
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be you. So yeah, and then also.

975
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: Like they've gotta be stressful, man.

976
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no friends like in the club at least

977
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,479
Speaker 4: like in New York. Like again, I think maybe because

978
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 4: there's more money in the South or like these other

979
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 4: like Miami, like these real strip club capitals Vegas, like

980
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 4: maybe different, but in New York like because also you're

981
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 4: dealing with like the only fans kind of phenomenon that happened.

982
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: I think it's very.

983
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 4: Digital now, so which a lot of dancers I think

984
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 4: have just like completely like left the industry and do

985
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 4: the digital thing now.

986
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, that I have in the past.

987
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,479
Speaker 4: But like even when I was doing it, I wasn't

988
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 4: like I was just doing like qutc artsy fartsy like

989
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 4: you know, hot girl first traps like but nothing that

990
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 4: like I would I wouldn't put out anything that would.

991
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 3: Be like, oh my god, it got leaked like it was.

992
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 6: Yeah.

993
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, like so because and I want to be like, yeah,

994
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 4: I mean this is just a moment in time right now,

995
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: like four years. I liken it to like, you know,

996
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 4: time doing undergrad, like you know, four years collage, four years.

997
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: No, No, I've certainly outgrown the role.

998
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: Like it's why it's what they call it a fifth

999
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 2: time senior.

1000
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, exactly, I'm completing my victory lap. And that's

1001
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: just that. Like I actually I told myself, I want

1002
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 3: to retire before this year is over.

1003
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: Like and I want to get like a formal job

1004
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 4: by the time I or you know, pop off with

1005
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 4: like what substack or like something else that's more like

1006
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 4: independent and separate from the club.

1007
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: But no, it's time.

1008
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 4: But to be clear, I like the like financial freedom

1009
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 4: and I like being like my own boss, and I like, yeah, like.

1010
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 3: It definitely speaks to like my entrepreneurial you know, it's

1011
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 3: like spirit.

1012
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 2: But I mean this is entrepreneurship for sure, like so much.

1013
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 4: That's self management of it all, creating your own schedule,

1014
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 4: pain people like that help you in the club to

1015
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 4: like land sales and stuff like that. Like yeah, that's

1016
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 4: definitely a thing. But I'm ready to like lend those

1017
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 4: skills elsewhere, like I don't.

1018
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: I mean it feels are transferable now they are.

1019
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 4: And like also bruh, Like this is a young bitch sport,

1020
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 4: Like I'm about to be twenty eight. My body hurts,

1021
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 4: like I sleep in Tiger Bomb.

1022
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it hurts. I have to stretch for like

1023
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 3: thirty forty minutes.

1024
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 2: Now listen, poll. This is not easy, y'all because when

1025
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: I was pretty good at it. But when I tell you,

1026
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: it feels if it felt like I got hit by

1027
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 2: a bus. I'm telling you, like, and I bruised easily.

1028
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: So for me just being in the poll and doing

1029
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: tricks and stuff, like, I had so many bruises on me,

1030
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 2: Like it is no joke. It's a lot of work,

1031
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: like I have. I always respect the strippers because I'm

1032
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: like Dan, there's like a lot of work. But when

1033
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: I actually started doing it myself, I'm like, oh my god,

1034
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: you have to have such body strength to do this shit.

1035
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: Not that the heels like everything.

1036
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like and again I'm I've only been in the

1037
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 4: industry for like four years, and I always say, like

1038
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 4: I'm not a good stripper. I think I'm a great entertainer,

1039
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 4: Like you know, I can talk like I can make

1040
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 4: people laugh all those different things I can dance.

1041
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 3: But like you know, also too, I think.

1042
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 4: It's important to figure out, like what your selling point

1043
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 4: is in the club, right, Like for some people it's

1044
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 4: lap dances for some people at stage, like I found

1045
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: for me like stage yapping like talking, which is.

1046
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 3: Also a very gentleman's club kind of thing. And then

1047
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 3: are the club close.

1048
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 4: That for if it's two am and I ain't make anything,

1049
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 4: I'll do a lap dance or to like find whatever.

1050
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 4: But even still like three for a hundred like minimum,

1051
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 4: and that's it, like cause we only got two hours

1052
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 4: for club clouses, we gotta make most of this Like

1053
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 4: that's that's the business model that is going to make

1054
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 4: sure that we don't leave with nothing.

1055
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 2: So yeah, now talk about the difference because we touched

1056
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 2: on it earlier, but about strip clubs and gentlemen clubs,

1057
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: because I've been to a gentleman club somewhere in this

1058
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: stuff and I was like, oh wow, like this is

1059
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 2: a stark difference.

1060
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1061
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: Did they start food? I that one too.

1062
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 2: I want to say yes, but I think the reason

1063
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: why we didn't eat it because it just didn't look appealing.

1064
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 3: Oh wow, oh my god.

1065
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like I'm from strip club Aaron, like the

1066
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: fool was. People will go to shrip club just to eat,

1067
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: like that's how good the food was. Yeah, And I

1068
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: like the Gentlemen's Club. And I think also I was

1069
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: just like like how I used to like kind of

1070
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: like undcover, Like I was just so intrigued by like

1071
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: like oh wow, this is a really big difference, Like

1072
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: the women don't have to do much, like it's more

1073
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: of it's a conversation, you make you a little titty

1074
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 2: shake here in there, but it's very like sensual.

1075
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think okay, like strip clubs, like Bro,

1076
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 4: I think the major difference is like Bro, it's just

1077
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:00,959
Speaker 4: like race in class.

1078
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: And whip, yes, because there was no brownies and the

1079
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: Gentlemen's Club maybe one or two exactly.

1080
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 4: And chances are those black girls that are in the

1081
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 4: club or like swim are more like yes, might have

1082
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 4: like a bad wig maybe.

1083
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean, that's a fact.

1084
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 3: But I would say like gentlemen's clubs are four.

1085
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 4: I mean I think traditionally, bro, gentleman's clubs come from

1086
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 4: the playboy clubs back in like the sixties that used

1087
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 4: to be in Chicago, it's.

1088
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: A little bit more sophisticated.

1089
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 4: Quote unquote, right, yeah, I think it's like it's okay,

1090
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 4: Like the difference between gentlemen's club is like cigars in

1091
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 4: the gentleman's club, like hookah in the strip club, wings

1092
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 4: in the strip clubs, steak in the gentleman's club. You know,

1093
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 4: it's that kind of leather in you know, the gentleman's club.

1094
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 4: And then like in some of these strip clubs, you

1095
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 4: can't even stand unless.

1096
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 2: You have bottles, you know, your are you standing on counches?

1097
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 3: Right exactly? So that's that.

1098
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 4: But I think, unfortunately, yes, like gentlemen's clubs are more

1099
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 4: like white clubs, and then like strict clubs, booty clubs

1100
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 4: are like black and brown, I guess. And it's unfortunate

1101
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 4: too because I.

1102
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: Feel like thout it though it definitely is like.

1103
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 3: The like gentlemen's clubs.

1104
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Like again, the reason why I work in a

1105
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 4: gentlemen's club is because, you know, for again, the desirability

1106
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 4: of it all. Like I think I just fit that

1107
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 4: profile a little bit better. I'm slim, I'm a.

1108
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 3: Black girl that could switch up the way that she talks,

1109
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 3: and you know, I have a loose curl to my hair.

1110
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 4: Like you know, I have like friends that still work

1111
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 4: in like the Queen's clubs or like the strict clubs,

1112
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 4: and they're like, oh, like how's your club?

1113
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 3: Can I get there? And I have to like literally

1114
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 3: be like you can try, but like I'm letting you know, now,

1115
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: this is like a.

1116
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 4: Club that like has like racist hiring practices, like they

1117
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 4: want like they're not looking for like caked up like

1118
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 4: you know, bodies and stuff like that. They unfortunately want

1119
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 4: anything that is the white standard or adjacent to the

1120
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 4: white standard.

1121
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 3: And even even though I'm like.

1122
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 4: A swim girl that can switch up the way that

1123
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 4: she talks, has a loose curl or whatever, like, I

1124
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 4: still have like issues in the club, like I certainly

1125
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 4: don't make as much as like the white girls that

1126
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 4: work there, or like y'all gonna get mad at me,

1127
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 4: but I call them white Tina's like the white Latin girl.

1128
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, facts because you don't know if you know,

1129
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: they experish, but the way they present themselves is very white.

1130
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 2: Yes that's a fact they are white, but anyway, right

1131
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 2: that part.

1132
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 4: But so yeah, that's that's the larger difference. But like

1133
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 4: you know what really like hones this in is that

1134
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 4: like they're earning potential. In gentlemen's clubs, I feel is

1135
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 4: like higher and more than like the strip clubs, even

1136
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 4: though like again in the strip clubs, like the house,

1137
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 4: thea is higher, like but bro, your compromise again, the

1138
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 4: last strip club I worked that I had to work

1139
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 4: through walk through a metal detector, like you are compromising

1140
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 4: your safety. The security is not as like aud it

1141
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 4: as you know the gentlemen's clubs right like at my

1142
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 4: club right now, it's no contact. Customers can't touch you

1143
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 4: like right or if they want to touch you they

1144
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 4: do like the VIP experience or whatever. But even so

1145
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,959
Speaker 4: you can like you know, negotiate like whatever your.

1146
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 3: Boundaries are and stuff like that. And that's another thing.

1147
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 3: Like strip clubs don't have champagne lounges and stuff like that.

1148
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 2: Gentlemen's clubs do, right, But yeah, so what the strip

1149
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 2: clubs have, like VIP rooms and stuff.

1150
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 4: I feel like they just have sections like VIP sections

1151
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 4: where like okay, like a group of niggas get a

1152
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 4: bottle or two a hookah, they get in, they get

1153
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 4: like a section in the club and there they probably

1154
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 4: get like, you know, a couple hundred and singles or whatever.

1155
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 2: Now what they want some additional services? Like isn't like

1156
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: a special room that can go to in the back

1157
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: or something.

1158
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 4: But I don't think that's Like did your strip clubs

1159
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 4: have like a ship came luch like that, Like they

1160
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 4: were like a VIP but.

1161
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 2: They had some VIP rooms rooms. Yeah, and he goes

1162
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 2: like a little separate yeah, but was it like I

1163
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 2: mean I never been in there, y'all.

1164
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 3: It wasn't like a sunny private kind of thing with

1165
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 3: like a curtain.

1166
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it was private, like you paid for the

1167
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 2: room and the person in the service that you would like.

1168
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, like the service that you would like, like

1169
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 3: full service service, Like.

1170
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they was giving it the full service.

1171
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: What do you feel like you don't know?

1172
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 3: Watching my no, because I don't, bro, Like.

1173
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: I mean not you.

1174
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: But have you ever like anyway in the clubs that

1175
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: you worked there, Like I'm gonna say this.

1176
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 4: Like, and I get most of my intel from customers,

1177
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 4: not until I'm so serious, bro, I don't talk to

1178
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 4: nobody in the club.

1179
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 3: I'm scared of them.

1180
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 4: Why but I think I get my intel from the

1181
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 4: customers at the club, and I'll be asking them because

1182
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 4: I is too like and I've asked, like you guys

1183
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 4: haven't like because Okay, my club, an hour in the

1184
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 4: room I believe is sixteen hundred like US dollars and

1185
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 4: it is, and like half an hour is like seven hundred.

1186
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: And here's the thing though, if you get a half

1187
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 3: hour room, the dancer only gets.

1188
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 4: Paid two hundred eighty five dollars of that seven hundred

1189
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:24,959
Speaker 4: dollars or whatever.

1190
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might know, you fucking lion.

1191
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 4: Oh unfortunately, I wish I was in an hour where

1192
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 4: they pay like between like fourteen and sixteen hundred.

1193
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 3: It depends also on the host too, which that's another thing.

1194
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 3: Like strip clubs don't have hosts that like, you know,

1195
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 3: their role is to like sell the room and stuff

1196
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 3: like that. Get who though, But in.

1197
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 4: A sixteen hundred dollar room, we only get paid like

1198
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 4: what five eighty five from No. Four eighty five actually

1199
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 4: of that money And so since we're only getting paid

1200
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 4: forty five, you know, you are trained to like and

1201
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 4: again this is a damn that like is like you know,

1202
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 4: telling you you should ask for a tip, not management

1203
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 4: or anything, but you know, you oftentimes asked the dude

1204
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 4: that's sold like bought the room, like, oh, did you

1205
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 4: want to leave a tip or whatever? But I've asked

1206
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 4: these customers like y'all aren't really like, you know, fucking

1207
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 4: back there, right, because again we only get paid like

1208
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 4: four eighty five dollars back there.

1209
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: But is the cameras in the room because if they

1210
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: only if they paying the base feed, they can always

1211
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: slip the strip or some money, right, there.

1212
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 4: Are no cameras in like my club in the room

1213
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 4: or whatever. But definitely in like the old club that

1214
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 4: I used to work at, and they're.

1215
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 3: Little like whatever that was. It was like a bench

1216
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: and like a curtain like and a mirror like what

1217
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 3: Like That's what I'm saying, like what can you do?

1218
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 6: Right?

1219
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 3: I'm sure it happens, and there was a camera. I'm

1220
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 3: sure it happens, but I don't. I don't know.

1221
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 4: But yeah, I've asked like, Okay, are y'all like fucking

1222
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 4: in there? And they've said yes before, Like but I

1223
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 4: think they tip them like the money like maybe a

1224
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 4: thousand or two thousand or something like day, they giving.

1225
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 2: Them money before before they start.

1226
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 3: Before they start. I mean that's smart, Like I don't.

1227
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 2: Get mad about seventy five percent up front and then

1228
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: we can go and get to it.

1229
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 3: That's but that's what I'm saying, Like as like, what

1230
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 3: type of money do y'all have? Gang, Like an hour,

1231
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 3: you paid sixteen hundred dollars for the room.

1232
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 2: I don't niggas find some money for some ass. Okay,

1233
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: they do have some money for some ass.

1234
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 4: This is true, but yeah again, but again that's why

1235
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 4: I say I'm not a good stripper, Like I feel

1236
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 4: like I'm.

1237
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 3: A good entertainer like.

1238
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 4: You and shit, yeah wine, like you know, I might like, okay, cool,

1239
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 4: we're here, like I'm also, but this is my strategy,

1240
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 4: like because I'm not like a full service girl or whatever,

1241
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 4: I'll offer a massage, get them comfortable, Like tell me

1242
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 4: about this?

1243
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 3: Did you know that you were gonna be this lit?

1244
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 3: Like I can't. I want to be you when I

1245
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 3: grow up, like you.

1246
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 4: Know, just like their ego, like and like just oh

1247
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 4: did you like if you're drinking that I calla the

1248
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 4: bartender again And I'm not even gonna lie, like okay

1249
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 4: if the room, I don't even do our rooms, cause

1250
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 4: like I don't even be wanting to like be locked

1251
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 4: in a room that long with like a nigga. Let's

1252
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 4: be real, like I prefer a half hour and then

1253
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 4: if you want to like add on to that, you

1254
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 4: could do another half hour like that. But that's again

1255
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 4: for me, but okay, boom, the room starts at half

1256
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 4: an hour. I'm setting my personal alarm to like twenty

1257
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 4: three minutes, twenty five minutes or something like that, and

1258
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 4: like my phone is gonna go off and be like,

1259
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 4: oh no, happen hourd like because again, like I don't

1260
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 4: want to be up in here with you, like and

1261
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 4: I get my customers, like if people are already giving

1262
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 4: like weird vibes and stuff like that, I'm good, Like

1263
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 4: I'll just take the l tonight at like I'm not

1264
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 4: in it like that like it is.

1265
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, and also in my.

1266
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: Club, you could do karaoke in the VIP room, so

1267
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: like we do that too, Like I feel like you

1268
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 2: be playing what's the most you ever made it work?

1269
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: If you don't mind share, I feel like you be

1270
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 2: at work just like you're like, no, I'm not doing that, and.

1271
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 4: I think for me like it it helps like cause Okay,

1272
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 4: to answer your question, most of ever Made at Work

1273
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 4: was about maybe like fifty six hundred like like that's

1274
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 4: not like too amazing. But again, like I'm like a

1275
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 4: danswer that like has like very like I'm strict. I

1276
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 4: run a strict program like don't make me uncomfortable.

1277
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: Like just because set for sure.

1278
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like if I do something that's going to

1279
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 4: compromise like my sanity, how am I supposed to go

1280
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 4: back to work the day after the day after?

1281
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like I even really like

1282
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 3: drinking at work because like we're not friends, like yeah,

1283
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 3: but but yeah, but you know, I'll say, like, bro, I.

1284
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 4: Was at work, what today is? Thursday? I was at

1285
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 4: work Tuesday and that was a cute little like thousand

1286
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 4: and seventy five dollars night. I paid twenty dollars to

1287
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 4: get there, and then the friday before that there was

1288
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 4: like a thousand and fifty dollars night.

1289
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 2: So like, you know, my numbers are pretty like okay,

1290
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 2: it's consistent.

1291
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like there are nights where like you definitely leave

1292
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 4: with like I haven't had nights recently where I've.

1293
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 3: Left like in like the negatives or like netted zero,

1294
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 3: like I only made my house feedback and like that's that.

1295
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 3: But there are Like.

1296
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 4: Prior to that, I did have like a little dry spell.

1297
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 4: Like the month of August was like I think a

1298
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 4: record low for me. Like I was leaving like two

1299
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 4: hundred dollars, three hundred dollars.

1300
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 3: I was like, good lord, Like what is happening?

1301
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 4: But I think that's a regional thing. Like in New

1302
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 4: York August, like everybody's what in the ham.

1303
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 3: Fins or traveling like yeah on the vine yards. But

1304
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 3: exactly now September's back the kids in school.

1305
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like running like it's back

1306
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 2: on the clock.

1307
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I'm finding too that like I feel like I

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Speaker 4: make most of my money from like tourists that come

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Speaker 4: here and not like like I feel like every customer

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Speaker 4: has an expiration date if they're.

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Speaker 3: Like a local, you know what I mean. Yeah, there's and.

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Speaker 4: Especially fucking with me because I'm not a full service girl,

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Speaker 4: Like there's only gonna be so many Vike rooms where

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Speaker 4: I'm giving you massages and yapping your head off and

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Speaker 4: doing karaoke for and Nigga's like, all right, so when

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Speaker 4: does the sex start?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, like I don't know, right, And

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Speaker 3: even still.

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Speaker 4: My strategy is like, oh well, like maybe we could

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Speaker 4: bring another girl in the room and like we'll see

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Speaker 4: like where that goes or whatever, but like nothing is

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Speaker 4: gonna happen, like I'll dance with a girl like you know,

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Speaker 4: like I'll like a moment like that and hopefully that works.

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Speaker 3: But no, Like.

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Speaker 2: This concludes part one of this week's episode. Part two

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Speaker 2: is dropping really soon, y'all. It's not coming next week

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Speaker 2: because next week we are starting our spooky series, and

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Speaker 2: y'all know how much we all love the Spooky series.

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Speaker 2: So I promise you, I promise you. I promise you.

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Speaker 2: As soon as October is over with, part two will resume.

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Speaker 2: But let me know what you think about this week's episode.

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Speaker 2: You can email me a at the psgpodcast dot com.

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Speaker 2: order for me to hit a thousand to start monetizing, okay,

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Speaker 2: so please make sure to support and until next time,

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