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That's sof r 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: EP dot com lute force. If it doesn't work, you're 20 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: just not using enough. You're listening to Software Radio Special 21 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: Operations Military means and straight talk with the guys in 22 00:01:28,280 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: the community. Hey, everybody, welcome back to Software Radio. This week, 23 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: I have a special guest again in studio, Camal Robo 24 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: Koont who's a close friend of mine. Also meditated with 25 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: the monks in the Himalayas. Many by looking at him 26 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: would never know, but he is a former Army US 27 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: Army imagery veteran, walked the five hundred plus miles across 28 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: the it's the Camino Santiago, right yeah, in Spain. Eleven 29 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: cent among many other things, founder of companies and venture capitalists, 30 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: now best selling author, and we're here to talk about 31 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: your new book, which essentially is a new version of 32 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: Love Yourself, like your life depends on it, which I think, 33 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: you know, I read both versions. I really think there's 34 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot more value added to the 35 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: second time around. And then I'm personally, you know, I 36 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: found myself. We'll get into it in the discussion, but 37 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: I was like, like, I knew what you were talking about, right, Yeah, 38 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: it was personal for me. But I read the book. 39 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: I think I jammed in one day my day off, 40 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: but great book, which you know, you and I were 41 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: getting coffee before the show It's a number one new 42 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: release on Amazon in the post traumatic stress category, which 43 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: I think is interesting for us to get in that 44 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: conversation just because of so much that's happened in the 45 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: US Armed Forces, with just the kind of never ending 46 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: deployment cycle. And I feel like this book could help 47 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people coming out of the military. I mean, 48 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: you and I both know that coming out of the 49 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: military back to civilian life is a difficult integration. But 50 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, add on top of that, you know, being 51 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: in this like horrendous environments and seeing like the worst 52 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: in people, right, like the worst people can get, and 53 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: in that kind of nasty wartime environment, and mean just 54 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: adds to the stress of transition. I think. So I'd 55 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: love to talk about that. But welcome to the show, dude, 56 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back. Thanks man. It's fun to be here. In fact, 57 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: last time we were here, I was interviewing you. Yeah, 58 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: we were trying that out. Yeah yeah, yeah, that was 59 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. We still got some work on 60 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: that to go, I think too. Look, I know I 61 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: know you, well, I know the whole story. Well, but 62 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: what inspired the Love your Self book? I mean, you know, 63 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: those listeners that may not understand like the issues in 64 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: events that led up to your writing the book. Can 65 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: you talk about that? It's actually interesting, you know, Like 66 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: I saw this thing on Instagram the other day. This 67 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: guy posted He's in the army, and he posted like, 68 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm reading this book about love of self love and 69 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: he said I never would have picked it up, but 70 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: I saw that the author was a former former love 71 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: and bravo. So that makes it makes me trust him, 72 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, which I thought was really interesting. And I 73 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: do get a lot of that from from male readers. 74 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not long here, but I'm not a 75 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: ponytail guy banging drums, you know. You know. Look, I've 76 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: been I've been in the military, of climb mountains, I've 77 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: built companies. You know I've built you know. I'm a doer, right, 78 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: So I come from that background. So I'm a very 79 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: very big believer in results. Only results matter, right, and 80 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: effective results. And honestly, I'm quite lazy. So I want 81 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: like the best results in the fastest way possible and 82 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: that stick. So love yourself like your life depends on 83 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: as ultimately as a book on mindset, it's a very 84 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: practical book on mindset. On what I've done to actually 85 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: a couple of times really changed my life from starting 86 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: from the inside. And the first time that happened was 87 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: it was in twenty eleven. I've been building companies and 88 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: you know, after the Army, I moved out to Silicon 89 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: Valley and I started building startups and that became my thing, 90 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,559 Speaker 1: and I did quite well at it. My last company 91 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: that I built, I self funded it completely, you know, 92 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: for three and a half years, you know, you know, 93 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: the kind of work that takes right, and I ran 94 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: out of money. Self funding a company, a tech company 95 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: for years is not cheap, and I ran the money 96 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: and so everybody was doing really well. I raised money 97 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: from some high profile people, and I was like this, 98 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, like I was walking pretty tall. I was like, 99 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: you know, I was maybe six months away from a 100 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: big exit where it was like you get your few money, right. 101 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: I was thinking pretty highly on myself. And then the 102 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: whole thing blew up and just completely blew up. I 103 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: lost everything. I was making payalle off credit cards, I 104 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: was living off credit cards. My relationships fell apart, I 105 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: fell apart. I got really sick. Like the whole thing 106 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: it was just like one downward slope and there was 107 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: one night. I was just so miserable, and I remember 108 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I can't stay in this place. 109 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to get out of this. So I'm going 110 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: to just die trying. I cannot stay in this place. 111 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: And this just pure misery. And the misery was in 112 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: my mind, you know. I mean, look, there were no 113 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: tanks outside my windows, there were no bombs dropping on me, 114 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, so like I mean, I still I mean, 115 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: I was in the US. I was in San Francisco, 116 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, like we lived very charm lives here. But 117 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: you when you're in darkness, you don't think of that 118 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: those things. You just you're in darkness. So I staggered 119 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: over to my journal on my desk and I wrote 120 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: about to myself. And I'm a big believer in the 121 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: power commitment to yourself. You may commit to you to 122 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: yourself as a sacred act, that's something between you and 123 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: life itself or whatever you believe itself. What came out 124 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: surprised me. I thought it was going to be like 125 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: a vout, like I'm going to get out of this 126 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: or I'm going to do this. But what came out 127 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: was about to love myself, which I remember is writing 128 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: it sitting back thing, What the hell did I just do? 129 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: And then I had to like, well, I made a vout. 130 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: I made a commitment to myself. I got to keep it. 131 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: I got to figure it out. So I didn't go 132 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: on online to figure it out. I didn't buy books. 133 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: I would to have a book on it. Now you know, 134 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: I didn't buy books on it. I didn't buy that 135 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: whole thing. Because everyone gives us stuff platitudes, you know, 136 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: versus what is practical. I needed to get out of 137 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: that misery. So I just started working on my inside, 138 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: on my head. I started doing things like running patterns 139 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: of like thought and feeling and emotion and feeling of light, 140 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: feeling light coming. And I started doing these things because 141 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: I also have a degree in economics. We shouldn't help 142 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: me with this predicular biology. And I've studied some neuroscience 143 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: and I know how the brain works. I started using 144 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: utilizing some of those concepts, and then I noticed a 145 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: certain thing made me such a feel better just bite 146 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: doing them. I felt better. So if they worked, I 147 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: went deeper. If it didn't, and if it stopped working 148 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: through to it, I really didn't care. It was just me, 149 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: my life that mattered. My inside that mattered. And after 150 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: I'd say about a week or two, I'd basically come 151 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: up with the with the practice that I was doing 152 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: regularly every day. And this wasn't something that was taking 153 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: much time or I had to sit down on journal 154 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: and do yoga and stretch or any of that stuff. 155 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: It was just like internal stuff. Our thoughts are running 156 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: throughout the head every day anyway that I was just run. 157 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: I was just more like channeling and focusing my thoughts 158 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: and feelings. And I got I got better really fast, 159 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: and it really changed things for me. And so the 160 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: original book that I wrote was a little tiny book 161 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: that I self published on Amazon just to share what 162 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: I did. And you know, I thought I was going 163 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: to be a big laughing stock in Silicon Valley. It 164 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: was like, hey, look I failed, and you know now 165 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: I love myself. Yay, you know, like look at me. 166 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: And instead what happened was that book take it took off. 167 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: It became a genuinely an Amazon success story. I got 168 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: I started getting emails, you know, and I did something 169 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: I never expected the book to do anything. I just 170 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: was doing it to share so I could buy copies 171 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: for friends to share with them. What I did rather 172 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: than have to repeat again and again. So I put 173 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: my email address in the book. You know what, I 174 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: started getting emails and emails and emails out, like thousands 175 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: and tens of thousand of emails for readers. Yeah, and 176 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: then you know obviously Twitter and Instagram messages and on 177 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: Facebook and all that to sharing me like this book 178 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: is literally saved lives. I met people who like, look, 179 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: I had a gun next to me, and for some reason, 180 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: I had your book and I was reading, and I 181 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: put the gun away. You know, I gotta know, you know, 182 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: and I've actually been close to that place myself, and 183 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: I've used that practice to save myself. It just it 184 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: was amazing, right, the book took off, and so this 185 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: was I put the book out in twenty twelve, and 186 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: so now it's twenty twenty. Between twenty twelve and twenty twenty, 187 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm getting all these emails. I always respond to my emails, 188 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: sometimes late, you know, I have things to do, but 189 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: I always respond. I started to note there were also 190 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: questions that I started to notice a pattern in the 191 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: question like that was like, yeah, you know what, I 192 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: held so much back, Like there's so much more I 193 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: need to share that makes this more viable, that makes 194 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: this more practical, that makes this actually make something that 195 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: that people can do it at last, not just something 196 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: that you do for a month or a few weeks 197 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: and feel better and move on and before you know it, 198 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: a few months later, you're back in the same place again. 199 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: And also, I'm someone who's always working on myself. You know, 200 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: that's that's just something maybe being being joined the army 201 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: at eighteen, you know, maybe that person like always like 202 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: challenging myself, you know, And and so I'm always like 203 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: challenging even this, like how can I be better at this? 204 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: So over the years I've developed more and more what 205 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: I do there. So I was like, okay, it's time 206 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: to actually write the full book and not hold back 207 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: this time. You know. It went down to, like, look, 208 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: I have readers write to me about abuse and stuff 209 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: like that they're dealing with and everyone, you know, we 210 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: get caught up in our well, my situation is different, 211 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: so you know what about this, And I haven't shared 212 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: my own childhood stuff that you know, I don't necessarily 213 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: need the world to know. But I shared because I shared, 214 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: because this is how I overcome it, using this practice, 215 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: using this you know, and it's all very simple. It's 216 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: very very simple, it's very doable, and it's an internal thing. 217 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: And look and the inside we're all the same and 218 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: the inside, you know, the details memory that may differ 219 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: on the outside of the inside. You know, same emotions, 220 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: you know, same basic emotions are running the show. So 221 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: I set out to I spent a year working on 222 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: the expanded version. It was like, okay, now I owe 223 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: it to these readers to actually put out the full 224 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: thing that I can just say, okay, now it's done. 225 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: Now you have the whole thing. Soup to nuts. There 226 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: you go. That's what just came out last week. And 227 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: what's really interesting is already I'm starting to get those emails, 228 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: you know, from people. And what's really interesting is on Amazon, 229 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: it just ranks stuff based on how people get to 230 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: a book or how they're searching for a book, and 231 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: it's become the number one book in new release in PTSD, 232 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: which is so interesting. And it makes sense because it's 233 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: it's an PTSD is an internal thing. It's a mental 234 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: emotional thing, you know, because of circumstances that we went through, 235 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: and this is this is a mental emotional practice on 236 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: making yourself better for me inside out. So it's really 237 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: really interesting to see that. Yeah, it's a I mean, 238 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: I think about it often because I reflect back on 239 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: my reasons for getting out of the seal teams that 240 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, and kind of mid career. But I really, 241 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm grateful I did it. But I remember 242 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: thinking ahead, like what would my life be like if 243 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: I do twenty twenty five years And it was not 244 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: like when I did this thought experiment, like it's not 245 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: a good result, Like I probably wouldn't have a relationship 246 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: with my kids, my body would be even more broken 247 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: down than it was now. And I saw this like 248 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: never ending deployments schedule, and I think about it like 249 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: my my real the time I went to Afghanistanta for 250 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: nine eleven, I felt like today even I can rationalize 251 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: like what we did over there. Yeah, and it was 252 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: and I think about it in the same terms because 253 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: I look at the World War II veterans that came 254 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: home like we were fighting, like Hitler was an evil guy, right, 255 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: purpose we had it, Yeah, So there was this purpose. 256 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: The thing I think that people struggle with is that 257 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: outside of the first year or two in Afghanistan and 258 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: a very short period in Iraq, like there was no 259 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: purpose behind the war, right, Like people were genuinely in 260 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten going what the fuck are we 261 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: doing in Afghanistan? Like why am I here? And why 262 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: are my friends dying? Because there's no purpose? And then 263 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: the same thing was happening version of that was happening 264 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: in Iraq. And I think when these people, when you 265 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: come back and you can't anchor yourself into that purpose, 266 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: it really causes people a lot of problems. And that's 267 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: why you know, we have such high suicide rate now 268 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: in the military, and when you're out as well, there's 269 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: the support system is not It's not as good as 270 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: it should be. You know, the va is terrible. They're 271 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: throwing opiates at these veterans, which is like the worst thing. 272 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: You know. They should be issuing everybody a copy of 273 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: your book and telling them to be, you know, work 274 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: on themselves and mindfulness. And I think now more than ever, 275 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, if somebody, if you're listening to this and 276 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: you you know, somebody that's transitioning from active duty to 277 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: civilian life, like this would be a great gift for them, 278 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: because I think this book would would help people kind 279 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: of maybe choose themselves, right, is that to give them 280 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: that new purpose because I think people, a lot of 281 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: people are lost doing all this crazy horrendous stuff that 282 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: that happens in war and they don't have in the 283 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: context of World War Two, this this kind of purpose 284 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: of Hey, this Hitler is like this evil guy and 285 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: he's like because the veterans that I've noticed, you know, 286 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: just looking back in time from World War Two, like 287 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: those guys transition really well and they went on to 288 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: like build and run like major companies in America. And now, 289 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, I have a hard time finding good guys 290 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: to even you know, we have one hundred percent content 291 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: on software. It is all veterans. But we had to 292 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: work really really hard to make sure we screen, you know, 293 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: screen and not you know, have have this like drama 294 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: PTSD fueled environment because we were just you know, it 295 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: was a lesson that I learned early because I wanted 296 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: to just hire these guys and give them, give them 297 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: a job, but I didn't realize like a lot of 298 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: these guys have serious issues. One of them was a 299 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: guy you met and knew, and he basically killed himself 300 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: earlier this year. So you know, it's a little bit 301 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: of a rant there, but I think the book can 302 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: really do a lot of help. And for those of 303 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: you that are listening that do have friends and loved 304 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: ones in the military that are transitioning, they're always asking like, 305 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: what can I do. Well, buy the book and give 306 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: it to somebody you care about. That's what you can do, 307 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: because I feel like this book can help a lot 308 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: of people, especially coming out of the service, and we 309 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: need more stuff like this rather than government contracted psychologists 310 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: handing out you know, prozac like fucking tic TACs at 311 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: the VA. Thanks man. It's really gratifying to see when 312 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: I get emails from people in the military of veterans, 313 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, like reading the book. Because I never set 314 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: out to write a self help book. You know, I'm 315 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: not a self helped guy. I'm more, like I said, 316 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm more of a practical door builder guy, right. But 317 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: I think that's why this booked us so well, connects 318 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: us because it's sharing from like, look, this is my 319 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: this is what I figured out, this is what works 320 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: for me, and this is a step by step and 321 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: hair and even watch how I fail, you know, And 322 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: I was very I really want to share because we 323 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: are human beings. You know. Often you know, when we 324 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: look at look outside, everyone seems to be like killing it, 325 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: doing great whatever. It is important to know, like, look, 326 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: we all struggle no matter where were in life. Look, man, 327 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: in Silicon Valley, I'm running by people who are extremely wealthy, 328 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: who got extremely wealthy very young. You know, a lot 329 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: of his luck, you know, or people who are looked 330 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: up to in our business culture. You know where we 331 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: almost like these days, we almost like worship you know, 332 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: people who have a lot of money and you really 333 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: and you get to know them, and they're all shit 334 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: shows inside. Yeah, everyone's a shit show inside. That's the 335 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: secret to humanity. Everyone's a shit show inside. It's like, 336 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: how do you manage your own shit show? That's the secret. Yeah, yeah, 337 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: that's true. You know. I'm in YPO and we meet 338 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: in a confidential environment once a month, and you learn 339 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: real quick, like, you know, some of the most successful people, 340 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: like they just have the same problems, right they have 341 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: they have issues with the in laws, the family, family dynamics. 342 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: You know, you realize you're just not alone and like 343 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: everybody has this shit. Everybody has the struggle, and it's 344 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: just like being able to struggle well, I think it 345 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: is kind of the secret, right. Yeah. And also, like 346 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: the thing is, I've really come to believe that internal 347 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: work is probably the most important work we can do 348 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: for ourselves. We all know how to get in shape, 349 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: we all, you know, a lot of us work hard 350 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: on our bodies. You know, we know what to eat, 351 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: we know you know what to do for pt. We 352 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: know what to like, what workouts to do, right, But 353 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: the most important thing that runs the whole show, which 354 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: is the inside, how much of that do we actually 355 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: spend time working on? And that's the one that runs 356 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: the entire show, you know, and that's what we forget. 357 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: And look, it's like it's none of us say, it's 358 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: no one's fault. We never taught this stuff. We've given platitudes. 359 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: We've given platitudes like yeah, you know, do this, do that. 360 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: You know, go have self esteem, go have confidence, go 361 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: love yourself. Great, how ye tell me how? That's what matters? Yeah? 362 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: And I think too that you know, people are desperate 363 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: for the recipe, right, and you're sharing your your experience 364 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: and being vulnerable in a way where people can take 365 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: the bits and pieces and use them for you know, 366 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: what works for themselves. But I think the I think 367 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: a mistake a lot that I see a lot of 368 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: people make is we were talking about this a couple 369 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: months ago. It's like, good, up at four point thirty 370 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: in the morning and crush the day. You know. It's like, look, 371 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: that may work for some people, but you know what 372 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody has their thing. I like sleeping man. Yeah, 373 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: and if I'm getting up at four thirty, I'm going 374 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: to bed by eight probably eight pm. So figuring out 375 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: like what works for you is kind of like, in 376 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: my experience, the best thing. Like I wouldn't look at 377 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: a guy like Bill Gates or Warren Buffin and go like, 378 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm just not them, right, I'm not like I can't 379 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: just do mimic what they do throughout their day and 380 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: be successful. And I see a lot of that, especially 381 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: on social media. It's like, oh, I'm going to be 382 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: more mindful, I'm going to get up in the morning, 383 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: I'm going to meditate, I'm going to do all this stuff. 384 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, some of that stuff may may 385 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: be valuable, but you have like we're so unique individually. 386 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: We have to constantly be on that self expiration path 387 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: and and then take the bits that work for us, 388 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: and it constantly. Yeah, you know, it's fundamentally about making 389 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: yourselves better. You know, it's about growth, and that's the 390 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: only choice we've got to be to grow. We stagnate. 391 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: If you grow on the inside, it is the rny 392 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: it changes everything on the outside. I keep learning this 393 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: again and again. I'm like the test case who forgets 394 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: this and then has to do it again and again. 395 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: And we're all human, man, I'm every year, I kind 396 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: of have a personal retreat for a couple of days 397 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: and I spend time on my business goals and my 398 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: family and personal goals. And I just finished that Ray 399 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: Dalio's Principles book and it caused me to notice, like, 400 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: what habits do I have that I really aren't serving 401 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: me well? And I was like, I'm spending way too 402 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: much time on dating apps, Like I mean, that's the 403 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: honest truth, right, And I'm like, I could be so 404 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: more productive and when I and this is a habit 405 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: I have to break that I made a commitment to 406 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: myself to break. And now I'm like, I shifted that 407 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: energy and time to searching for a commercial real estate 408 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: property investment property and like analyzing businesses and probably In 409 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: the last three weeks, I've looked at it at least 410 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: a thousand businesses on you know, this business broker website 411 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: for sale, and it's like analyzing all these these different 412 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: businesses because you know, I'm I'm trying to potentially buy 413 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: business this year to add on to software. But I'm like, wow, 414 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: this is way this is way more productive and way 415 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: more aligned to kind of what I want to do 416 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: out of life. Yeah, we've got to be conscious, you know, 417 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: it's otherwise we just went we got this monkey inside 418 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: the head running the show. You know. Yeah, oh yeah, 419 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: my monkey was taken over. Yeah, monkey was going crazy. 420 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: Those dating apps are you know, designed very well? Oh 421 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: they just trigger you. Right. I wanted to ask you 422 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: this question, like, what are some of your your takeaways 423 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: from your military experience? And you did two years in 424 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: the three farm three three total in the Tenth Mountain, 425 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: and I'm doing part of in the reserves. You know. 426 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: The main thing was, look, I went in as an 427 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: eighteen year old, you know, as this I had a 428 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: free ride to college. R went into college for a 429 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: year and I was like, I want to go serve. 430 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: So I actually dropped out and uh and and enlisted. Right. 431 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: I remember here, I am an eighteen year old city 432 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: kid who's never really spent time in the woods, you know, 433 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: landing in Atlanta, getting put on a bus and taking 434 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: the full bending at night, right, and it was speakinning 435 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: of summer. Summerfull bedding is the worst time, man, It's 436 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: the worst time. Well, look, boot camp's not designed to 437 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: be comfortable. So I did my you know, I did 438 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: my basic and ait there straight through to go there 439 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: and you know, be throwing them at all these kids 440 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: from all over and we were all so different, man, 441 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: we were so freaking different. You know, like if it 442 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: wasn't the military, we turned the lord of the flies, 443 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: they probably, like some of us, would have killed each other. 444 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: You know, like it's not like you like everyone in 445 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: boot camp. You know, like but you come together, right, 446 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: you end up coming together and and becoming a unit. 447 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: And the growth that happened because you know, you get 448 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: challenged every day. I was challenged every single day because 449 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: there was not one day I thought this is a 450 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: pleasant day, this is a good day. You know, like 451 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: there's never a day you think, oh, this is a 452 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: great day. You know, like this you're just being challenged 453 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: just when you think you got it, they will find 454 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: some other way to make you miserable. That's the whole point. 455 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: But I remember at the end of AI T you know, 456 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: I did the straight through, so I think it was 457 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: thirteen and a half with a stand for it's basically 458 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: your mos, your your specialty. So it was infantry school. 459 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: But you know, so mine was like basic in infantry 460 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: school just combined. I think basically was like eight weeks 461 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: and infantry was five. End up being combined total thirteen 462 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: and a half, but around that, right, And I remember 463 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: at the end with the last last exercise we did 464 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: and we had then we had this last rock march, 465 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: this long rock march at night, where it was that 466 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: that was it, we were done, and then we were 467 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: going to graduate. And I remember when we finished our 468 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: rock march and I had severe stress fractures. Man, they 469 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: were like thinking about like making me repeat stay at repay. 470 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way to maybe go through 471 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: the game. I had these horse pill these Motord hot 472 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: horse pills. I was you know, everyone's been in the 473 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: military noses. I probably it was like candy man. I 474 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: was like, I don't give her break my feet of 475 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: that march. I am not I'm going to get to 476 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: the end because you had to make it to the end, 477 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: and you're not sending me back to repeat this thing, 478 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 1: you know, which is like the worst insult too they 479 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: can do is make you go and repeat because you 480 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: had an injury. I remember we got to the end, 481 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: We got to barracks, and then we were saying information 482 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: and a droll sergeant came by and he he pinneder 483 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: our blue cord, you know, which is the infantryman's blue 484 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: cord on our uniforms. And I remember just the pride 485 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: I felt I had earned it. I had earned this. 486 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you probably know this way better than I 487 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: do when you earned your trident, but that feeling is 488 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: in right. I turned nineteen book camps and now I'm 489 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: a nineteen year old off. I had earned something that 490 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: was purely mine for the first time in my life, 491 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: by purely by my sweat, by my by my stepping 492 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: up again every day and putting up with whatever I 493 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: was pushed against. And that feeling made me realize I 494 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: can do anything. I can step up and do anything. 495 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: I can get through anything and do anything. And that 496 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: mindset has been great for me all my life. You know. 497 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: I it's funny if I was thinking the more at 498 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: the beginning of the show when you were talking about 499 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: how I walked across Spain and the him and clean 500 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: himlets and stuff, thinking, yeah, of course I was a 501 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: leg No, no wonder half my life I started walking 502 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: across countries and stuff that was just trained, you know, 503 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: at a formative age and just walk, you know, walk 504 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: with the backpack with a rucksack. But that at that 505 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: point because I look at boot camp as a very 506 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: special time because you're you go in and one way 507 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: you come out another way, you know, very very different, right, 508 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: So for me, it was that it was that end, 509 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: like I earned this and the pride it's very rarely 510 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: I felt that kind of pride again in my life 511 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: with other things I've done. Yeah, no, I I mean 512 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: I could look back on my Navy career, I think 513 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: the first time, I I mean, obviously, you know, graduating 514 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: boot camp was an accomplishment. Then kind of the next 515 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: thing for me would I finished Search and Rescues from 516 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: a school and that was a big accomplishment, you know, Eric, 517 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: we went I went to Pensacola, Florida after after boot 518 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: camp in Orlando and finished you know, Aircrew Candidate school, 519 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: which was it wasn't that hard, but rescues from the 520 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: school is hard, and finishing now I'm like, okay, great. 521 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: And then I went to my A school was Anti 522 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: Submarine Warfare Operators. It was like studying all these you know, 523 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 1: harmonic frequencies with submarines and and learning how to like 524 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: measure you know, the harmonic vibrations and water and using 525 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: it to identify like how many blades were on a sub, 526 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: how many cylinders and frequencies of turbines, and then you 527 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: could match it to like a specific Soviet subprofile. It 528 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: was pretty crazy. But then I finished that school, I 529 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: got my I got my E I went from E 530 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: two to E four, so I became a n c 531 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: O and that was like another big moment. Obviously I 532 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: got my aircrew wings too, and then the tried It 533 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: was probably the biggest, the biggest thing for me, But 534 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: you like, it's it's one of those things I think 535 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: as a parent, you know, I really am always trying 536 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm putting my kids in situations 537 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: where they have the ability to kind of earn it, 538 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: because when you give it to them, it's just not 539 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's just not the same, right, And that's 540 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: why I feel so terrible recently with this whole college 541 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: admissions things. I mean, you could even see how some 542 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: of these kids were behaving and publicly after they were 543 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, the parents were like bribing these their kids 544 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: into these these schools. It just takes away that the 545 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: accomplishment of it all, and you're robbing your kids of 546 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: something meaningful. They have to struggle, and that's the hardest 547 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: thing of a parent like you. You don't want your 548 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: kids to struggle, but when you really realize that they 549 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: have to struggle, they have to fail and struggle and 550 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: earn it because if they don't, they're we're going to 551 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: know the value of that. And I think that that's 552 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: something the military taught me, right, like the value of 553 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: like like you said, having having really really known that 554 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: you earned this, you earned it. Yeah, yeah, yeah that 555 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: the military is great for that. I still recommend it 556 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: to people. I try to talk Connor and it going 557 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: to the Air Force Academy. That's been awesome. I was like, 558 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: because he's you know, he's a sharp kid, but he's like, 559 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: I don't want people tell me what. Yeah, he's great. 560 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: He just won his tournament. Last weekend, he won first 561 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: place for parliamentary debate. So I'm really proud of him. 562 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: You know, you get to see the look on his face, 563 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: the kids holding this trophy that he's worked hard for. 564 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: He has put in a lot of hours that him 565 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: and his sister, but he has been doing debates since 566 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: middle school. He spent the first I think two years 567 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: of high school debating and it was always like finishing. 568 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: I think the highest he finished was was third place, 569 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, buddy, it's got to keep working 570 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: at it'll come. And then he started doing better and 571 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: when he first won his tournament I could just see 572 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: the like pride on his face because he had actually 573 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: he'd spent years working towards this moment and actually to 574 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: hold this trophy in his hand is h You know, 575 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: it was great. It was a great feeling for me 576 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: and I'm sure for him too. You know, as like 577 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: I said, as a parent, you want you want your 578 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: kids to have those those kind of moments, you know, 579 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: and earn them, not just buy it for him, right 580 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: because you're just you're not setting them up for success 581 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: by giving it to your kids. And that's life in 582 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: general too. I think, you know, I see you know, 583 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's easy to blame the millennials 584 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: or gen Z. I think it exists in every generation 585 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: where you see people that come up and they're kind 586 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: of coddled too much. You know, I'd bump into him 587 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: in New York all the time. It's like they just 588 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: have no sense of reality of earning something. They're just 589 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, playing around with their parents' money still at 590 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, that's a thirty something, you know what I mean. Yeah, 591 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 1: it's actually interesting. I mean, look, I don't pay much 592 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: attention to politics because I think it's a confederacy of dunces. 593 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's just a complete like you know, it's 594 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: just like the pharmacy of duncas. You know. I like, 595 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: if you're it reminds me of the head or nuts, 596 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: like the saying we have the military. It's like, what 597 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: do you mean header nuts? Like I'm going to kick 598 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: you in the balls, I'm gonna punch you in the 599 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,239 Speaker 1: face or take your pick. You're like, there is no 600 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: good Yeah, that's like what I feel like a politics. 601 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: And but I was listening to this cheme across this 602 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: thing about like look, college tuition basically just waving off 603 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: the debt. Look, it's a huge problem we have, like 604 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: we're basically having dentured servitude. But like you know, there's 605 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: another option, join the military, don't pay it. There's a 606 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: GI bill. That was the whole point, you know, like 607 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: I got the GI bill, you know, like there are 608 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: options rather than just wave it. I think if you 609 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: create something like that, you're actually you're people are losing 610 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: something either waved or like waved join the military, or 611 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: do some sort of like a like America Core program 612 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: where you go in underserved communities and you work there 613 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: and you pay and you get paid off. Even though 614 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: I've read a few biographies now and the last one 615 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: was the founder of a serious ExM. But there's also 616 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: like fucking I want to walk about for a year, 617 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: like earn your way, wait tables, do odd jobs and 618 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: explore the world for a year and see how good 619 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: we really do have it in America, like I've seen, 620 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: Like that's almost like another version of what you're saying 621 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: as well, But I think that's extremely valuable. Rather good 622 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: write into college, you know, drinking beer on the weekend, 623 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: joining a fraternity, like come on, like it's and I really. 624 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: I mean you and I talk about this often. It's 625 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: like the college educationism what it used to be, Like 626 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: the kids watching Hunter and how he's developed an interest 627 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: in computer science, Like he's fortunate enough to have a 628 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: computer science class at his high school. But when he 629 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: was a sophomore, his teacher sure is like Hunter teaches 630 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: the class because you're way more you know, you know 631 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: Python and doing neural network programming. Like I don't know 632 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: how to do this stuff, so you teach it. And 633 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: he just learned it on YouTube and con Academy and 634 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: just self taught. And it's the same like technology is 635 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: evolving so fast, Like where are you going to like 636 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: where are you going to legitimately go to school and 637 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: and be like a cutting edge computer science program? I mean, 638 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: there's just not especially That's something I tell people getting 639 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: out of the military, things like trying what to do 640 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: and like, look, in my career, the best opportunities are 641 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: actually in knowledge work where you can make it stupid 642 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: about some money, you know, very quickly without an intense 643 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: amount of training because there's so much demand, right, So 644 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: like and how do you go by doing it? You 645 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: got to be self motivated? Right, So that's one thing. 646 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: It does take. And just like your kid did, right, 647 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: be self motivating and go on all the educations out there. 648 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: Now you don't need to go to college for this. 649 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: Some of the best programmers in the world I've had 650 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: work for me. I've had some of the very best 651 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: work for me, man, And they were all self taught. 652 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: Like one of them didn't even finish high school. And 653 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: this kid, man, he could hack into any Pentagon computer 654 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: you want, man, Like, that's the kind of level like 655 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: that good almost scary, you know, like I was almost scary. 656 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: But that level of smarts, those are the best that 657 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: are self taught. And these days, like you said, you know, 658 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: just go to con academy online or go to YouTube 659 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: and just start from squad to start learning how to 660 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: do some sort of knowledge work. And if you can 661 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: learn how to program, and anyone can, you know, it's 662 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: just a way of thinking that you learn. It's just 663 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: the language that you learn and teach yourself. You'd be 664 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: amazed the opportunities that open up. But it does take 665 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: self motivation. But because because you've be in the military, 666 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: one thing you know is disciplined and if you just 667 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: start doing a discipline manner, no matter where you are. 668 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: Before you know it, you will you will actually be 669 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: in demand. You will be in person that if you 670 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: apply for a job, you don't have to be stocking 671 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: shelf somewhere. You can actually be you can actually be 672 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: making six figures within six months of training yourself. It's 673 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: amazing the opportunities are there that people are talking about. 674 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: And the people are like, oh, well, maybe I'm not 675 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: going to math, or but I don't want to do programming. 676 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: But even like internet marketing is the same thing, Like 677 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: it's just marketing. Yeah, and look, I know some of 678 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 1: the top internal marketers in the world right and they're 679 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: not geniuses. It's actually funny. It's just like watching things 680 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: and figuring things out. You know, there's a there's a 681 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: process to it, and you can learn all of this 682 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: for free. You don't need to pay for anything. There's 683 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: so much. There's great podcasts out there. Pick up pot 684 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: find the top internet marketing podcast, just not listening to it, 685 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: find YouTube video, start doing, you know, and before you know, 686 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: you go to someone say, look, you know, pay me, 687 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: you know, two thousand dollars a month to manage your 688 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: Facebook spend for you and now we'll get you this 689 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: kind of return and then next thing you know, you 690 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: got five clients. You're making ten grand a month managing 691 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: people's Facebook ad spend. It's so easy to do. But 692 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: you've got to be self motivated and this stuff you 693 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: can teach yourself very easily. There's a lot you out there, 694 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: and I really hope anyone listening to this who is 695 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: actually thinking about what to do, Like, man, if you're 696 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: self motivated, you are you are going to be sitting 697 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: in gold. Yeah. No, I mean that's the that's the 698 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: advantage of you know, the guys that do transition and 699 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: the kind of figure it out because they do have 700 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: the discipline. They do really they do it really well. 701 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: I just wish it. I wish it was more more 702 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: of them. In fact, the reason I decided to be 703 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 1: kind of an ambassador and speak at Bunker Labs first 704 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: inaugural gallows because there was very few military nonprofits come 705 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: along that are actually you know, giving you know, a 706 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: hand up, not a handout, and I was super impressive 707 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: like what they're doing at Bunker Labs kind of incubate, 708 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: like bring these guys in, mentor them, make them feel 709 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: like they're part of the family. Men and women and 710 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: and they give them this like peer like support environment, 711 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: but also like, hey, you got to do the work. 712 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: Just seeing like a few of the companies come out 713 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: of there have had success and it's pretty cool and 714 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: that you know that to me, that's much better than like, oh, 715 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: you can't pay your bills, here's five hundred bucks, you 716 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: know what I mean, that's just bullshit, you know when 717 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: most people don't realize in the history of Silicon value 718 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: of Silicon Valley, you know, all the like Google, Facebook, 719 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: all these major major companies and a lot of them 720 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: you never heard about, but that are massive that basically 721 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, running the show coming out of there, Silicon 722 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: Valley was founded by military veterans, you know, in the 723 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: semiconductor industry. They don't people don't realize that it was 724 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: actually formed of military veterans. You know. I think there 725 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: were a lot of back in the back in the 726 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 1: day in like sixties seventies, Like there's a strong history 727 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: of just military people going into new technology and then 728 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: just like running with running with it. Yeah, that doesn't 729 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: get shared much online. So I want to also ask you, 730 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: like what's your what's your opinion on recently they've found 731 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: all this information. With that, the military has this crazy 732 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: program which I don't know why we waste our time 733 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: and resources on it, but they bring in these foreign 734 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 1: nationals and train them and then most of them don't 735 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: meet the standards and they graduated him anyway. But we 736 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 1: had this Saudi pilot in Pensacola who was obviously had 737 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: this radical interpretation of Islam and and shot and killed 738 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: those people. And now you know, the police are saying 739 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: to you know, trying to like shame Apple on TV 740 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: into like releasing this this guy's cell phone data. And 741 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm really conflicted with that because I'd almost like, I, look, 742 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: we know this, Like what are you going to accomplish 743 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: by unlocking this guy's phone? Like I just feel like 744 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: like we've lost a lot of a lot of our 745 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: rights in the country. And look, I live my life like, hey, 746 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: I have nothing to hide. I my Google Home thing 747 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: is on all the time, listen to me, you know, 748 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: do whatever the hell I do. But which is crazy. 749 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: But I'm more like like when you really like, look 750 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: at what when the Patriot Act was passed, like spying 751 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: on US citizens without warrant, Like that's when I really 752 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: like struggle with, like why are because those powers can 753 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: be abused and they historically will always be abused because power, 754 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: you know, we are power shifts in this country. You 755 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: know who's here four years will not be here four 756 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: years from now. You don't know what that person's ad 757 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: agenda is. And these aren't all fully mentally seane people 758 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 1: running the show. Yeah, yeah, but do you have an 759 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: opinion on like yeah, yeah, Look, the problem is the 760 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: problem is it's a slippery slope. If you unlock it 761 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: for one situation, then that could be used to be 762 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,479 Speaker 1: unlocking down to the point for like someone the local 763 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: attorney general has it in for. Yeah, that's the problem. 764 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: It's not that this situation, Yes, the situation we should 765 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: you know you I mean I would think, yeah, you 766 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: want to know someone who's a terrorist, You want to 767 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: know everything there, right, But that the slippery slope is 768 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: it'll eventually come down to the local powers that be 769 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: you abusing it and that would rather live in a 770 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: more dangerous world. But know that, you know, it's you know, 771 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: a freer and honestly, I don't think it's a more 772 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: dangerous world because first of all, there's very little online 773 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: prophecy no matter what you do. But Second of all, 774 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: if you are interested in online prophecy, there's enough ways 775 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: that you can do it that even if they unlock 776 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: that phone, right, they could be a person could be 777 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: used in this app like Signal, and the Signal which 778 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: which deleted the messages is nobody to recover them. You know, 779 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: there's there's peer to peer stuff. So they so the 780 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: people who want to hide stuff can hide stuff, right, 781 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: if they want to hid stuff, they can, They really can. 782 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 1: It's and it's not that hard. It's actually quite easy. 783 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: It's all available. It's absolutely app store, right, and they work. 784 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: They're you know, they're they're great for people who are 785 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: in repressive governments, you know, but they also are used 786 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: in democracies. So in that case, if you use those laws, 787 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: you start unlocking those people who are already if they 788 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 1: want to hide stuff, they'll hide stuff. But now those 789 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: laws go to a slippery slope, and now you're doing 790 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: for like people like you, and if if someone doesn't 791 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: like if some local and I've seen local attorney generals 792 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: go for people, you know, because they're politically may have 793 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: motivated to nation motivated. And it's just you don't want 794 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 1: to go down that slope because that is the last 795 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: frontier is are whatever privacy we have left on our 796 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: on our devices, you know, we live off these things. No, 797 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: I agree. I feel like we've given we gave up 798 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: so much just of our rights as citizens under that 799 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: the guise of safety and this Patriot Act. It's just crazy. Yeah, 800 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: it's uh. I mean, the world is getting smaller and 801 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: smaller with technology. It's like I had some discussions with 802 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: my friends about the whole like cryptocurrency thing, and and 803 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: I know you you know crypto way better than I do. 804 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 1: But there was this we were talking about this French 805 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: guy and young guy my my HBS class that was like, no, 806 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: crypto is the future. We're going to transact and it's 807 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,439 Speaker 1: a free economy. I'm like, dude, no government is ever 808 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: going to allow that to happen, right, you know, because 809 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: they have the power to control it, and they are 810 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: for sure going to control it. They're not going to 811 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: lose their tax revenue and if anything, is going to 812 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 1: get harder and harder to kind of move stuff around 813 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: in the world and shelter, you know, shelter money from 814 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: tax authorities. But anyway, I don't know if you have 815 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: an opinion on that yeah, I mean crypture really works 816 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: is in governments that are failing. Venezuela, go to Argentina, 817 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, go to Iran, you know those places. You know, 818 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: how do you get money out? How do you get 819 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 1: money away from the government, that's the only option they 820 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: really have, or just like buying precious metals. How many 821 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: people can do that. So crypto really works very well there. 822 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: But as a whole, yeah, I mean, the US is 823 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: not going to allow but they'll allowed to operate because 824 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: it's a global thing. They can't stop it. That's the thing. 825 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: It's a global distributing thing you can't stand. But they'll 826 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: allowed to operate in a way that they can actually 827 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: watch who's doing what and collect their taxes. You know. 828 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: It's like almost like you start to think the government 829 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: exists to collect taxes, not to do anything for you, 830 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: but just to collect taxes. Yeah, you know, that seems 831 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: to be their function. Yeah, I mean I was my 832 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: friend Dennis, who owns a small bank in California. They 833 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: were the first to accept crypto deposits, but they can 834 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: only accept deposits that passed the Know your Customer tests 835 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: because the government wanted to collect tax on it and 836 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: their deposits. They were They went from eight hundred million 837 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: to almost four billion and ten months. And he said 838 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: they had to refuse ninety percent of the people that 839 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: wanted to deposit money because it couldn't pass the test. 840 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: But it was crazy. Yeah, anything else you want to 841 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: before we wrap, or you want to share with the 842 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 1: audience about the book. I've given this book my all. 843 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: I really worked so hard to share something that that's 844 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: really worked for me, and now it's worked for so 845 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: many people. I think if you're anyone who's got any 846 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: ever had any any ink discipline in your life, you 847 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: can apply this. It's it's a one man's journey, but 848 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: it's also a human journey, and it is practiced. I'll 849 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: tell you from my experience, it works. You know. I've 850 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,479 Speaker 1: had so many readers reach out to me, and people 851 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: have nothing in common with you know, sixteen year old girls, 852 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,760 Speaker 1: who's a woman in their seventies, to you know, obviously, 853 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: to you just a wide range of just people. It's 854 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: a human thing, you know, And yeah, it just it 855 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: just involves, you know, kind of like us taking ownership 856 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: of our mind, you know, and it's actually way easier 857 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: to do than one thinks we just never taught it. 858 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: And it's funny because I get I get like recovery 859 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: centers using this book. I guess psychologists emailing me using 860 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: this book for their patients. You know, I'm not a 861 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 1: psychologist or anything like That'm just the guy who works 862 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,479 Speaker 1: in himself. Yeah, where can people find you? The best 863 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: place on Instagram, Twitter by email addresses is in the 864 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: book with the Instagram handle just Kamala Ravi kant you know, 865 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: just a luck spelling it, yeah with a K. And 866 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: I do want to tell people that are listening when 867 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: they go to search for the book, because it is 868 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: make sure if you're searching for it on Amazon that 869 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 1: you're getting the latest release copy. Yeah, because it's really 870 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 1: well worked. It's worth that the older version was very 871 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,720 Speaker 1: small and held a lot back. And I say it because, 872 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: like we talked about the old the original version is 873 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: still available on Amazon, but it's third party sellers. Yeah, 874 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,280 Speaker 1: so make sure that you search for the updated version, 875 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: which's just like it looks like a Banksy cover. It's 876 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: got the full title on it. A guy with the 877 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: piss break can looking up at it as if he's 878 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: painted it on the wall. Yeah, and so for people. 879 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: Just make sure you see that twenty twenty release date 880 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: on there because it can be confusing. I know it was. 881 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: Bookstores will only carry the latest one. Yeah, so everywhere 882 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: everywhere books are sold in Amazon, Go get the book. 883 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: Look if you buy it at the local bookstore. You know, 884 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,919 Speaker 1: I love local bookstores because you're supporting a local business. Yeah, 885 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: you know, if you're near one, I would say that's 886 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 1: the best place to get it. Are you doing any 887 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: signings for the book? Any plan? Nothing planned? Okay, maybe 888 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 1: we'll rope you into one of our SOFTWAREPP author events 889 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: where actually it was one of our big twenty twenty 890 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: initiatives to not only do more events for our members, 891 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: but also yeah, we're start we're basically leaning into the 892 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: publishing world ourselves. We got ten books we're publishing this 893 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: year under the software imprint ourselves. We're just going to 894 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: build out our own publishing division. So look for that 895 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: and then everyone listening to we're speaking of events. We've 896 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: got a partnership with iHeart iHeartMedia. We're doing a big 897 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: event in Austin the Country Music Festival with iHeart. So 898 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: it'll be some giveaways coming. So you guys, make sure 899 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 1: you look for the giveaways stuff on our social media 900 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 1: and websites. Not only we're going to give away special 901 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: VIP packages to the Country Music Festival in Austin, but 902 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: leading up to Veterans Day Music Festival in Nashville, that'll 903 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: be a really cool event. We plan on having some 904 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: giveaways gold Star Family giveaways and as well as for 905 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,760 Speaker 1: our members. And it's pretty cool to see just how 906 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: supportive iHeart has been with our partnership, and then the 907 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: fact that we were really committed to giving back to 908 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: the to the military community and through our kind of 909 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: charitable donations. Look for that. Go by Kamal's book Thank 910 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 1: You for Getting It. Yeah, well, we got some more 911 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: interesting guests lined up. It's on comal. Last night I 912 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: had dinner with Conan. I was the guy to first 913 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: walk across the Antarctica unassisted. Super interesting guy. Colin Brady. 914 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, first across Antarctica solo, unassisted human power only 915 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 1: It's fascinating. He was saying, he's like calculating the fact 916 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: that he can only bring so much food. He knew 917 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: that he could eat seven thousand calories a day, but 918 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 1: he was going to burn ten thousand and lose about 919 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: a pound a day's like calculating his body mass loss, 920 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: because he said most that's what got most people before him, 921 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: because if you have died trying to do the same 922 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,399 Speaker 1: thing he did, was they didn't calculate enough, they didn't 923 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 1: get detailed enough to figure out how much food they 924 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: had to take, and they'd run out of food and 925 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: start to death. Basically, but fascinating guy. So I'm going 926 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: to have a colon on the show. It's some other 927 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,919 Speaker 1: guests coming up, but appreciate you guys listening. Big Phil 928 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 1: and I are tag team and Software Radio, so be 929 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: sure to also email your questions and if you have 930 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: any ideas for upcoming guests, please email us at radio 931 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: at software dot com. It's radio at software dot com 932 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: and we'll see you in next week. Out here, you've 933 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 1: been listening to self rep Radio. New episodes up every 934 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday. Follow this show on Instagram and Twitter 935 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: at soft rep Radio