Speaker 1: I welcome to episode sixty seven Bobby Cast with Cole Swindell.
Speaker 1: Hey man, good to be here at seven. We've done
Speaker 1: we've done a lot. And that the thing about this thing,
Speaker 1: we never really planned on it being something big, and
Speaker 1: not that it's something big now because I mean, you're
Speaker 1: just in my house right and I actually left my
Speaker 1: bedroom door open. I never leave my bedroom door open.
Speaker 1: We will come over this. This is a sweet place, man,
Speaker 1: I appreciate. I walked in and I'm like, man, this
Speaker 1: is this looks like where Bobby Bonds lives. Man, this
Speaker 1: is uh, it's a great, great idea that man. And
Speaker 1: And to be like I said, you've been You've had
Speaker 1: a lot of interviews, so I'm glad to just just
Speaker 1: be on here. Well, we're happy to have you. And
Speaker 1: Cole and I were sitting at a table and a
Speaker 1: board meeting, if you can take of calling together at
Speaker 1: a board meeting, and we were the first thing to leave,
Speaker 1: not the first thing to leave. But we have different
Speaker 1: kinds hours. Our jobs are different hours everybody else's and
Speaker 1: so we're on the A c M board and I
Speaker 1: am happy to be on the A c M board.
Speaker 1: But those nine am ten am eleven AM meetings difficult.
Speaker 1: You first of all, don't wake up until at least then,
Speaker 1: and me I'm out by then. Yeah, like I'm just roasted.
Speaker 1: So we go to this meeting and they put us
Speaker 1: at the table and it's me and cold. There's only
Speaker 1: four people at the table, and Cole and I are
Speaker 1: to the people at the table, we were like, you
Speaker 1: gotta be kidding. As soon as they like broke for
Speaker 1: water calling, I was like, we'll see you guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well we'll catch up with your later. Just taking a
Speaker 1: let us know what happened. At least we were together, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that was yeah, board meeting that early, man, and
Speaker 1: whatn't wasn't my thing? But how did you get on
Speaker 1: a board? How did you get on it? That's what
Speaker 1: I would like to know. I mean, I remember when
Speaker 1: I found out when Carrie told me that, Hey, they
Speaker 1: you're on the c M board. Not I asked what?
Speaker 1: I didn't ask how did that happen? I honestly don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I guess you know, when it
Speaker 1: comes back up, I'll be Uh, did they vote on it?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, man, I don't know how
Speaker 1: I you know, I am a part of it, but
Speaker 1: I know that, you know, just to be a part
Speaker 1: of a thing like that that you know, that was
Speaker 1: my first award, and I mean you talked about they've
Speaker 1: always recognized you know, new new faces and and the
Speaker 1: future of country music and to you know, to be
Speaker 1: on the board like that with all these people. I
Speaker 1: mean there's that you're in there, there's there's managers, producer
Speaker 1: and just to be in you know a lot of
Speaker 1: people that have a huge impact on our industry and
Speaker 1: for you know, there's other artists on it, but you know,
Speaker 1: I think I was one of the only ones that
Speaker 1: just it's crazy to be in there amongst all those people.
Speaker 1: So it's, uh, it's a cool thing, man. I'm glad
Speaker 1: that glad that I'm a part of it. And to
Speaker 1: learn you get to hear, you know, kind of learn
Speaker 1: more about the industry and other people's opinions, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of cool that we are kind of on the
Speaker 1: same page and opinions I just like mine. Well you
Speaker 1: but remember when you stood up and saved our table.
Speaker 1: That was like my biggest fear, like going back to
Speaker 1: like high school group sessions or something. You they were
Speaker 1: asking our tables. All right, what did y'all, What did
Speaker 1: y'all come up with him? Bobby? You stood up and
Speaker 1: just saved us with this like Will Ferrell and old schools,
Speaker 1: like what just happened? I just blocked out. It was
Speaker 1: like what it happened? Once? I wanted to be seen
Speaker 1: at the meeting, and I knew if I got out
Speaker 1: because it's all these professionals, and I knew if I
Speaker 1: got up and spoke, and I was like, actually, my
Speaker 1: opinion on point four dash the three. Other thing is
Speaker 1: they'd be like, oh, Bobby was here because rememberbody said,
Speaker 1: and then after that we said, I know, and I
Speaker 1: just kind of rote your coat toil out like I
Speaker 1: was kind like, yeah, that's right, I agree with that.
Speaker 1: And then I got out there because I didn't want
Speaker 1: to stand up. That was a big room. And you
Speaker 1: you nailed it. You're the famous ones. They knew you
Speaker 1: were there. And then I had to bet on the microphone.
Speaker 1: Got it. You got us through the through the meeting
Speaker 1: and they knew we were there, and maybe we'll get
Speaker 1: to go back. So you know, what's interesting about you
Speaker 1: is that there's nothing about you on the internet, as
Speaker 1: I do on purpose kind of yeah, I just kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, like to keep you know, some of some
Speaker 1: of my private life private just because I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: you know as well, there's just being and our profession.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just a lot of people out there
Speaker 1: that don't like to see anybody happy and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's just dealing with some of it. But to me,
Speaker 1: I just kind of keep it, keep it low key.
Speaker 1: But um like nothing, I can always find something. What
Speaker 1: do you I mean, what like what? Well, No, I
Speaker 1: didn't ski stuff, but I'm telling you, of everyone, you're
Speaker 1: one of the more. You have a lot of hits,
Speaker 1: you have a lot of songs, Yeah, you have. And
Speaker 1: there's you're like one of these uh agents, the the
Speaker 1: the ci agents that don't leave traces anywhere. No man,
Speaker 1: I you know, but I think as far as that stuff,
Speaker 1: the songs, I mean, I like what you do today.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about your day to day. What did you
Speaker 1: wake up? I woke up actually pretty early. I went
Speaker 1: to bed early, less about seven thirty. That's pretty I
Speaker 1: Actually I got I got to here a little bit
Speaker 1: this morning. You mentioned I was coming in tonight, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a got a quick little workout in and
Speaker 1: I had a had a writing appointment this morning with
Speaker 1: Cole Taylor and Josh Kerr to of my buddies in town.
Speaker 1: So UH went and did that. We started that was
Speaker 1: a book for eleven, but Cole and Josh both agreed
Speaker 1: to do it at ten so we could get done.
Speaker 1: And you know, I've got some family in town, two
Speaker 1: of my cousins and um, so I wanted to get
Speaker 1: done since I went and wrote a song and the
Speaker 1: first time I ever wrote with Josh, it was an
Speaker 1: amazing thing. Me and Cold have been buddies for a while.
Speaker 1: He's got several cuts on on my latest album you
Speaker 1: should be Here. And it was a great day. Man.
Speaker 1: I just had a little management meeting about some stuff,
Speaker 1: you know what we we got in the future coming
Speaker 1: up and looking forward to coming over here. So that's
Speaker 1: been my day so far. So when you walk into
Speaker 1: a meeting, man, how times have changed? Like a writer, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, because when I got here, when you
Speaker 1: first moved to town, though, you had to be pretty
Speaker 1: intimidated walk into some of these big rooms. Yes, like
Speaker 1: what was the first write that you can think about
Speaker 1: in your head? Do you walked into and there was
Speaker 1: like a writer that you're like, man, I shouldn't be
Speaker 1: writing with this person, Like, actually, I'm writing with a
Speaker 1: with a legend or somebody that I look up to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I remember one of the stories um for me,
Speaker 1: and it goes back to being a kid. You know,
Speaker 1: I always say I fell in love with nineties country music,
Speaker 1: and that's one of the guys. You know, Thomas Ritz
Speaker 1: That Rhett Akins was one of the artists I loved
Speaker 1: as a kid. And I remember being in a room, um,
Speaker 1: the first time we ever read the first the road.
Speaker 1: The first song we ever wrote was song Thomas Rhett
Speaker 1: to get me some of that, And that was just
Speaker 1: that memory was my first like only in Nashville, Like
Speaker 1: you grow up listening to a guy and the first
Speaker 1: song you end up writing his son takes to the
Speaker 1: top of the charts, and it's just that's a Nashville
Speaker 1: story if I've ever heard one. But yeah, there's so many.
Speaker 1: You know, you go from playing college bars and oh,
Speaker 1: so let me stop you. So you're going to write it.
Speaker 1: How long you've been nashvill when you're at the song, Um,
Speaker 1: probably for four years or so. I had just gotten
Speaker 1: off the road from you know, doing the T shirt thing.
Speaker 1: I had a publishing deal and this was one of
Speaker 1: my This is the first time he and read every road.
Speaker 1: We've been buddies. But that was man, I wasn't That
Speaker 1: was a crazy story to go from being a fan
Speaker 1: of his to writing with him. And it's just a
Speaker 1: straight car me and Rett and Michael Carter, my producer.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, so you walk in, you write this song,
Speaker 1: and when you write a song, did you think maybe
Speaker 1: it would be for you? Now? You know? At this point,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is this all happened? Before I
Speaker 1: got my record deal. I was writing songs every single day,
Speaker 1: just wishing somebody would record him, and and this one,
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I loved it. I thought it
Speaker 1: was a great song, but I just didn't have enough
Speaker 1: going for him. I didn't have the artist thing going,
Speaker 1: and I was willing for anybody when I heard that
Speaker 1: Thomas Rhett loved it. You know, I've always been a
Speaker 1: Thomas Rett fan and a buddy his, so I was
Speaker 1: just hoping to get a cut. You know that those
Speaker 1: things that's what got me, you know. I think my
Speaker 1: chance that ultimately had a record deal was getting other
Speaker 1: big time artists to record my songs, and that was
Speaker 1: that's one memory of you know, you go from playing
Speaker 1: songs written by people in the board of sitting in
Speaker 1: a room with him and and writing a song, and
Speaker 1: that's just that's when you know you're you're living the
Speaker 1: dream man, when you're getting to do do that? Is
Speaker 1: that the first song for you that was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can make a little money, I can relax a
Speaker 1: little bit. Is that the first one of those? I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, because I had I had, you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of early cuts, like Scotty McCreery right after he
Speaker 1: had one American idol. He wont he recorded one of
Speaker 1: my songs, water Tower Town. I read about my on
Speaker 1: with it. How do you have on this? Uh? But
Speaker 1: that's like old we do our research on this. This
Speaker 1: is yeah, this is you know, that's a I wrote
Speaker 1: that about my hometown and I remember, you know, thinking
Speaker 1: that it didn't end up doing you know what we thought,
Speaker 1: But still that that let me know that, hey, I
Speaker 1: got a chance in this town. And Scotty, Uh, what
Speaker 1: a great guy he is. And speaking to him that
Speaker 1: his new song that you Oh my god, that's one
Speaker 1: of the best songs I've heard. I texted him as
Speaker 1: soon as I heard it when when you were talking
Speaker 1: about it's just it's he's a great dude. So to
Speaker 1: have somebody like that record one of your songs about
Speaker 1: your town and and you know, some of the same beliefs,
Speaker 1: just just that was a cool moment for me. But
Speaker 1: Thomas read that was a different level. You know, Um, Paula,
Speaker 1: let me stop you. So this Scott even Carry song.
Speaker 1: This was the first one by an artist that was
Speaker 1: somewhat successful that you're like, Okay, this really has a chance.
Speaker 1: And it was kind of really a cool moment for you. Huge,
Speaker 1: huge moment because I remember it was one of those
Speaker 1: I learned a lesson because you know, when I wrote
Speaker 1: this song, ultimately, you know, me and Luke were close,
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, this, Luke's gonna love this.
Speaker 1: I can just see him loving it. And I remember
Speaker 1: I sent it to him and all this sent back
Speaker 1: was yeah, man, I love that. Everybody knows your mom
Speaker 1: and them line and that's all they's sitting. I was
Speaker 1: like crushed. I'm like, man, I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: was like, that is not what I was wanting to hear.
Speaker 1: And literally, you know, a month or two later, Scotty
Speaker 1: wins American Idol and and that song gets recorded and
Speaker 1: it's on a platinum album, and it just I learned
Speaker 1: that day that you know, you may think you you
Speaker 1: got it all planned out what you but it's it's
Speaker 1: gonna work out how it's supposed to. And that one
Speaker 1: that was my really first example of you know, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna try to do the right thing, right songs
Speaker 1: and they'll end up where they're supposed to. So water
Speaker 1: Tower Town, Scott McCory cuts Dad and then you start realize, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got I can write these songs? Do you and
Speaker 1: did you have the confidence before that? It was like
Speaker 1: it's a matter of time. Where did it take songs
Speaker 1: to hit before you started to realize you could play
Speaker 1: in the league. You know, I would like to say
Speaker 1: I moved up here thinking I was gonna be but
Speaker 1: you know, I think you have to, you know, have
Speaker 1: something like that happen. Have you know, you know, publishing companies,
Speaker 1: record labels doing that. That that means they believe in
Speaker 1: what you're writing. And yeah, you do get confidence. I
Speaker 1: mean it's hard to have confiden is when you're writing
Speaker 1: all these songs and you know they're not really getting
Speaker 1: any traction, but you just learned. You know. That's why
Speaker 1: they say, you know right every day because the more
Speaker 1: you do it, the better you get. And it's just
Speaker 1: the the chances are better you're gonna have a great
Speaker 1: song the more you write. And that was I remember Dallas,
Speaker 1: Uh when some of my other writer friends calling me
Speaker 1: and just saying that when that UH song got recorded,
Speaker 1: like hey, congratulations, but don't start like this is this
Speaker 1: is where you gotta show up a lot of people
Speaker 1: just say I've made it, and you know that's I
Speaker 1: think that's what you gotta do. You gotta keep going.
Speaker 1: Was that Do you think that'd be a a big single?
Speaker 1: When you're when you cut it, were you're hoping like, man,
Speaker 1: that this could be a number one hit? Is that? What?
Speaker 1: Is that? What? Every every time you cut one? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you're you're hoping that that's what? Uh? You know,
Speaker 1: But I think being around the business, you know how
Speaker 1: hard it is to to to do that, to write.
Speaker 1: There's so many great writers in this town. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you're always wanting like and that that song
Speaker 1: when it there's one thing for it to be on
Speaker 1: the album. I mean that's a huge album coming straight.
Speaker 1: I mean, selling over a million coupis these days, it's
Speaker 1: it's hard heard of and uh pretty much but and
Speaker 1: uh to have that. But then when it announced as
Speaker 1: a single, I remember thinking that was my first single
Speaker 1: to country radio, and I thought I didn't even know
Speaker 1: what to think. Man. I mean that a song here
Speaker 1: I wrote about you know where I grew up, and
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it was hitting country radio and
Speaker 1: it just like I said, either way, I mean that
Speaker 1: that was my first taste of seeing how the song
Speaker 1: was doing and wondering what was gonna happen with it,
Speaker 1: and watching watching yeah, watching the chart, and it's it's, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's just how how you learn, uh
Speaker 1: the business, I guess. And I'm just glad that, you know,
Speaker 1: that song helped me, you know, no matter how it did,
Speaker 1: it got me. Uh, it gave me the confidence to
Speaker 1: keep writing and know that, hey, my songs are you know,
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Speaker 1: All right, so after water Tower Town, what's the next
Speaker 1: song you wrote that You're like, Okay, this one has
Speaker 1: a shot, now, Okay, like this one has a shot
Speaker 1: like water Tower Town had old high hope, but you're
Speaker 1: still happy about it. Made you felt confident you could
Speaker 1: walk into a room that Then would you write UM?
Speaker 1: I said, well, I know I wrote a song that
Speaker 1: that Chris Young recorded UM after that. But then after
Speaker 1: I wrote a write a song for Luke Bryant called
Speaker 1: roller Coasters that I've heard of that one this is
Speaker 1: the one. I mean, yeah, this, this was this and
Speaker 1: give me some of that, Like those were almost around
Speaker 1: the same time, I feel like, and you know, but
Speaker 1: this one was the one that, uh, you know, just
Speaker 1: our history from you know, Nolan Luke and and working
Speaker 1: for him to writing songs. And I mean when we
Speaker 1: played him this, me and Michael Carter wrote this one,
Speaker 1: we played it for him. It wasn't even to pitch
Speaker 1: it to him. It wasn't to see if he would recorded.
Speaker 1: Me and Michael was the first one we had kind
Speaker 1: of written together and we had he had produced it
Speaker 1: how he wanted and we just wanted to hear my
Speaker 1: voice on it to see what he thought. And he
Speaker 1: freaked out, drove its straight over to his producer's house
Speaker 1: and me and Michael are sitting there like what is
Speaker 1: going on. We're that feeling is that's one of a
Speaker 1: kind feeling when somebody you've looked up to is about
Speaker 1: to I mean, it's freaking out literally over a song
Speaker 1: like you've never seen them. You know, you used to
Speaker 1: freak out over there songs like that, and now here's
Speaker 1: something we wrote and uh to see him and Jeff
Speaker 1: Stevens just you know, go crazy over this song. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was one of the best, you know, moments of
Speaker 1: my life just knowing that, man, I this songwright. That's
Speaker 1: it's one of those things. That's why we love songwriting.
Speaker 1: It's because to make somebody feel like that, and that's
Speaker 1: you know, that's why I moved to Nashville because that's
Speaker 1: how music, you know, it makes me feel. And after
Speaker 1: Nat let me hear this to get now I need
Speaker 1: to recut this too, come on, I wish yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you put your volk on into Deemo. I gotta see.
Speaker 1: I still have I thought about that some day, you know,
Speaker 1: like maybe putting out my own little uh like just
Speaker 1: the you know, the the versions of my versions of
Speaker 1: the songs, because I mean that's what pretty much got
Speaker 1: me my you know, when labels we were pitching my songs,
Speaker 1: and they were like, what, you know, why don't you
Speaker 1: why can't you sing this song? Or why wouldn't you
Speaker 1: sing this? And it just kind of that gave me
Speaker 1: confidence to It's like, man, maybe I need to book
Speaker 1: a show because you know, when I moved here, I
Speaker 1: had just been singing cover songs, playing in bars, me
Speaker 1: and a buddy of mine, acoustic no uh, no big
Speaker 1: band or anything, but we just played country covers and
Speaker 1: I had gotten into the songwriting things. So I moved
Speaker 1: here and fell in love with the with the writing.
Speaker 1: Did you move here to be an artist? I mean,
Speaker 1: ultimately yes, but I knew that I was, you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to have my own songs, and I you know,
Speaker 1: I had friends in the business that was that said,
Speaker 1: you know you need to if you like songwriting and
Speaker 1: you're interested like you are. I mean I was looking up.
Speaker 1: I was more star struck by the songwriters when I
Speaker 1: got here because I you know, I had been on stage.
Speaker 1: I loved entertaining, but I knew I didn't have the song.
Speaker 1: I didn't I couldn't write a song like I wanted to,
Speaker 1: And uh, you know that's why I moved here and
Speaker 1: to take three solid year and just focus on songwriting.
Speaker 1: I mean that if that wouldn't have happened that way,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have had those songs for you know, when
Speaker 1: I finally got my chance at a record deal. So
Speaker 1: it's another situation where I thought I was gonna come
Speaker 1: up here, I was ready to get a record deal,
Speaker 1: and I would have had to screw it up so fast.
Speaker 1: I mean, it just happened that at the right time.
Speaker 1: But that songwriting was definitely my my avenue. So, you know,
Speaker 1: in this town and they're luckily doing the show, I
Speaker 1: get to bring up all the great songwriters. You know,
Speaker 1: there becomes the coolest songwriters at the moment. They aren't
Speaker 1: artists yet, it may never be, but it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: who's the coolest? Were you for a while that the
Speaker 1: the coolest songwriter for a minute? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't um, you know, I wouldn't think that. I
Speaker 1: would think that I was a guy that people hopefully
Speaker 1: wanted to write with a second time and the third time.
Speaker 1: I think that's you know something my publisher, the people
Speaker 1: that you know brought me up through the business. It
Speaker 1: was like, you know, you gotta have this town. You know,
Speaker 1: behind you, wanting to write with you again. I mean,
Speaker 1: you gotta um, you know, you gotta write the best
Speaker 1: songs you can. And I think, uh, I never felt
Speaker 1: like that. I just felt like I started getting some
Speaker 1: songs recorded and people heard my versions and it was
Speaker 1: like a lot of artists now it's like, well man,
Speaker 1: let's uh you know that's and that was about the
Speaker 1: time that that you came along. You know. It's it's
Speaker 1: crazy to think like it's all that happened. Uh, and
Speaker 1: then I finally got my chance. So it is crazy
Speaker 1: to think that you've really only been an artist for
Speaker 1: about four and a half years, and that's what's something.
Speaker 1: I think. You know, you have a ton of hits
Speaker 1: and well, thank you, and I'm on my It's crazy
Speaker 1: to me from I mean, I met you during chilling
Speaker 1: It and now I'm on my seventh single that is
Speaker 1: in that amount of time. I mean, you know, we
Speaker 1: talked a little bit. I don't know how you measure
Speaker 1: success really. I think it's happiness. But I think that
Speaker 1: if you look at what I've done, and I can't
Speaker 1: I don't have anything to complain about it if something
Speaker 1: didn't done my way, I mean, look at look at
Speaker 1: what's happened for me, And it takes something somebody like
Speaker 1: your mama or whatever, you know, pointing that out. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, we always in this, we always want what's next,
Speaker 1: what's next? But man, you're right four and a half
Speaker 1: years I couldn't have couldn't have drawn it up any
Speaker 1: any better. And you hit from the internet at the
Speaker 1: same time. It's amazing. Here, I'm gonna play chilling It.
Speaker 1: I think I'm a story about this one. So this
Speaker 1: song comes out about this dude I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I just dude. It sits up a cooler to this
Speaker 1: dudio and I'm like, let me see what this is.
Speaker 1: He said, up a cooler, Let me see what this
Speaker 1: chilling it. And I remember listening to out my ears.
Speaker 1: I was like, let me let me hear this sent
Speaker 1: up a cooler. I was like, I like the sound
Speaker 1: of that times a little progressive but still country. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I liked it. And I remember playing
Speaker 1: it and I know you. I've never met, I know,
Speaker 1: but I had heard. I remember my mom telling me
Speaker 1: that you were playing it like and that was and
Speaker 1: you're texting you said, my mom heard this song on
Speaker 1: the radio. For the first I had to get your no,
Speaker 1: of course, you know, I just I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: my labels, like, can you get me Bobby Bones? And
Speaker 1: my mom's freaking out he played my song. I just
Speaker 1: want to thank you because at that point, you know
Speaker 1: how I mean, somebody's got to give you a chance,
Speaker 1: and that you know, when you're a new artist and
Speaker 1: an artist and I mean putting out a new song anything,
Speaker 1: you got to have people that believe in you. And uh,
Speaker 1: I will never I will never forget that the people
Speaker 1: that you know you met at the beginning that kind
Speaker 1: of gave you that shot. I mean, from from you
Speaker 1: to my label to Cooler the CD and even listening
Speaker 1: to CD, I like, he said, a beg old cooler
Speaker 1: up here. What am I gonna do with it? Well,
Speaker 1: at least you like the song, they'd be better than
Speaker 1: the Cooler Sons. But I was like, well, let me,
Speaker 1: let me listen to it, let me download this, And
Speaker 1: then I got as a jam the crowds what started
Speaker 1: and I watched you a stagecoach this year. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: played the same day I played. We played before you.
Speaker 1: We don't worry. We're playing a PNG times like we're
Speaker 1: playing like four. You're playing at dark whatever, and I
Speaker 1: was watching you play this song and the whole crowd
Speaker 1: was still just they were singing their brains out to
Speaker 1: this song. And and that was my first single. I
Speaker 1: think that is you know, people ask me buddies that
Speaker 1: are trying to get record deals or whatever, this's like,
Speaker 1: you know, what song should I you know, what's the
Speaker 1: first thing? And I don't. I don't know the answer
Speaker 1: to that. But I just think that if any other
Speaker 1: song I've had since then would have been my first,
Speaker 1: it might not have broken me through there like that
Speaker 1: one did. And that's scary to think about. But that's um,
Speaker 1: like I said, and that's why I love writing songs.
Speaker 1: I've always listened to music, and I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: a fan. I grew up a fan of music and
Speaker 1: I still am. And I think that's why, you know,
Speaker 1: try to put myself on their shoes and what would
Speaker 1: I want to hear? What would you know? It's not
Speaker 1: always like that, but sometimes you gotta think about you know, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm just like him too, So let's let's try to
Speaker 1: say some of it's fun, some of us sad. But
Speaker 1: I wonder, let me wonder out loud for a second.
Speaker 1: I wonder because you put that song out and I
Speaker 1: was like, I like this song and it sounds a
Speaker 1: little different. I bet you got some pushback for that song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I bet you did. And now it's just a song
Speaker 1: that there was a hit that gets played as what
Speaker 1: they call a recurrent and nobody thinks the thing about it.
Speaker 1: In just four years, you've seen it change from WHOA,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. I bet you got some daddy countries
Speaker 1: for that song, which is crazy to think right now,
Speaker 1: right yeah, now yeah, But uh, like I said, that's
Speaker 1: I guess that's always you know, it's always gonna be
Speaker 1: the thing. And you, like you said, man I that's
Speaker 1: the one thing about being in positions like we're in
Speaker 1: is like your open as if you're opening yourself up
Speaker 1: to just get you know, people that have you know,
Speaker 1: nothing other to do than just you know, talk trash
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. But that's you're gonna get pushed
Speaker 1: back about things. But I think those are always the
Speaker 1: things that mean you're you're breaking through and getting getting
Speaker 1: something done. And you know, not everybody's gonna like that's
Speaker 1: the toughest thing for me, is I you know, I
Speaker 1: try to treat everybody how I want to be treating.
Speaker 1: But everybody's not gonna like your music. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: like every song. You're not even like me. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like what they don't even know us enough, but it's
Speaker 1: they don't know me. But you know, I uh, you
Speaker 1: gotta understand that you're putting your stuff in that position.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I think. We we've got
Speaker 1: a lot more people that do like us than don't.
Speaker 1: That's to me, the fans, I mean people that that's
Speaker 1: how you gotta focus on. And that let me wonder
Speaker 1: out loud again. I wonder because something I've had to
Speaker 1: do in my life, especially in the last six months
Speaker 1: to a year, is if I get a hundred tweets
Speaker 1: right all zero in on that negative one, yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'll be like, everybody hates me and this person just ripping,
Speaker 1: But there are ninety nine positive tweets, and I would
Speaker 1: always focus in. It would make me go, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: so angry or I'm sad, but that we should really
Speaker 1: make an effort to appreciate those ninety nine. I'm not
Speaker 1: That is a great point because you know, that's being honest.
Speaker 1: If if if somebody says that they don't. Then I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess they've got it figured out. But it's just
Speaker 1: it's tough to see that something that you know you
Speaker 1: love to do and you're doing you're you're not out there,
Speaker 1: you know, doing what. I don't know, you're doing the
Speaker 1: right that you're doing great things, and um, trying to
Speaker 1: do the right thing, and people just no matter what,
Speaker 1: you're just trying to do, just trying to do things.
Speaker 1: And they they're gonna, you know, they're not gonna like it.
Speaker 1: And we gotta focus on the one. We gotta focus
Speaker 1: on the ninety nine I got, Yeah, I gotta focus
Speaker 1: They played this song time about this one. Here. This
Speaker 1: is Craig Campbell. Yeah, Craig singing here. This is the
Speaker 1: one that was my second sing Yeah, that was my
Speaker 1: second single, Country Readier, right there, Craig Campbell, great friend
Speaker 1: of mine, great friend of yours. The thing about Craig
Speaker 1: is that And the weird thing about this song, I
Speaker 1: believe it was a song as it was climbing he
Speaker 1: gets dropped from his record label, not dropped the record
Speaker 1: of the Folds when he's try climbing hard. Yes, and
Speaker 1: now I remember sitting the meeting with my boss's boss
Speaker 1: and we were in New York and Craig Campbell was
Speaker 1: our R radio on the Bridge artist and so I
Speaker 1: love the song and the song is just top ten
Speaker 1: and boom, his record label goes out and we're like,
Speaker 1: what what do we do? So it's like, well, we're
Speaker 1: gonna keep charging with the song even though there's no
Speaker 1: record label and no promotion, and I think you end
Speaker 1: up getting to like six or something and that's h yeah,
Speaker 1: that doesn't even happen. Yeah, we were all flower against,
Speaker 1: like he's got a top to the song and now
Speaker 1: the record label folds and goes away. But but just
Speaker 1: because that's never had, why can't it have? And that's
Speaker 1: what I love about, like, like people that believe in
Speaker 1: a song, believe in music, and you, like I said, man,
Speaker 1: you can't really you don't know how to say thanks
Speaker 1: for this? And I know Craig appreciated that. Probably is
Speaker 1: that when you met is that when y'all met kind
Speaker 1: of then when you've had Yeah, this is when we
Speaker 1: met that, So you wrote this, Yeah, I wrote this one.
Speaker 1: So this is the one that as a writer on
Speaker 1: that scene that happened and a good friend I mean
Speaker 1: me and Craig and he used to play Broadway every
Speaker 1: Tuesday night at the stage, Me and him to go
Speaker 1: get sushi right on Demember and right there every tunesday
Speaker 1: to be the road from selling merch and uh he'd
Speaker 1: be playing the stage and we'd go down and I'd
Speaker 1: watch him sing all these songs that he's every song,
Speaker 1: every song, and I mean i'd sit there, wouldn't be
Speaker 1: you know that many people in there at the start.
Speaker 1: I mean they have like four hour sets down there.
Speaker 1: By the end it was full. But I'd be there
Speaker 1: from the beginning. Now, I was his buddy, and I
Speaker 1: uh always supported him. So to see you know, him
Speaker 1: record a song like that, knowing that he used to
Speaker 1: get me up. That was my only chance to really
Speaker 1: ever sing in town was during his sets. He'd get
Speaker 1: me up to sing just some nineties country song or something,
Speaker 1: and you know that's uh, that was my moment of
Speaker 1: the week, you know, before I went back on the
Speaker 1: road to sell t shirts. So Craig has always been
Speaker 1: good to me, and I looked for hopefully one day, Um,
Speaker 1: you know we can do some shows together. I know
Speaker 1: he's out there, I think with Luke doing some stuff
Speaker 1: now and like you said, you've you're a fan of
Speaker 1: his and I you know, I just I'd like to
Speaker 1: pull for good people and he's he's one of those.
Speaker 1: If you if your friend as an artist, so back
Speaker 1: when you before you were trying to be an artist
Speaker 1: and you wrote something you's always fantastic, would you go
Speaker 1: to your friends with it first and say, here's a
Speaker 1: song I think is really good. And is it awkward
Speaker 1: when they don't think it's really good? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: that is so so true. I mean yes, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I've had, you know, a couple of close friends.
Speaker 1: I mean, Luke obviously is one of them, but Thomas
Speaker 1: read Or but he's a songwriter himself. So I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think, you know, me and f gl Or boys,
Speaker 1: but it's it's hard to it's it's hard to think
Speaker 1: dirks now, but uh, I had to. You know, when
Speaker 1: you send the artists a song, you want them to
Speaker 1: love it, but it is awkward, like you if if
Speaker 1: they don't say anything back. Because now I'm on the
Speaker 1: other side of it, and I don't know what to
Speaker 1: do when I don't like you don't want to you know,
Speaker 1: what do you say it's so it's because you don't
Speaker 1: I just if you made a song. Let's say I
Speaker 1: write a song. I'm like myself songwriters that are pitching
Speaker 1: me songs. Uh. This is something that gets talked about
Speaker 1: a lot here is that And a lot of people say,
Speaker 1: I believe someone they like in the last last week
Speaker 1: or so, I said they would get songs and they
Speaker 1: just don't reply. And that's kind of the universal. Hey,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really feel in it without saying I wasn't
Speaker 1: really feeling it. That's I'm laughing because I know I've
Speaker 1: done that before, but I don't know anybody listening. They
Speaker 1: just didn't reply. Do you remember who it was? Oh
Speaker 1: he was Nicole Guy, and that's somebody I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to rights. So I know I'm looking Nicole. I want
Speaker 1: to write with you, but we're gonna, I know, we'll
Speaker 1: we'll try to wear that that out, but that is
Speaker 1: very true. I've done that before too, and you know,
Speaker 1: you try to get everybody by to her is what
Speaker 1: it was. It's not Blake, That's what it was. Because
Speaker 1: her and Blake her friends, and she was like, she'll
Speaker 1: send Blake songs and if Blake doesn't reply, that just
Speaker 1: means he wasn't feeling it. That's their universal language. I
Speaker 1: used to do that. To me, I've yeah, I've done that,
Speaker 1: and you're kind of like, well, getn't replied by now,
Speaker 1: She hadn't replied by now. They don't like it, So
Speaker 1: then do you send it to someone else if they
Speaker 1: haven't replied in what? How much time do you give them? Um?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. These days, I don't think
Speaker 1: there is any and I think they just send it
Speaker 1: and if you answer first, and it's good some some people.
Speaker 1: But to me, I mean there were sometimes when uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I remember like roller Coaster when when Luke
Speaker 1: he had that on hold for a long time, and
Speaker 1: there were other artists that I remember, Um, a couple
Speaker 1: of artists you know wanted it or are there A
Speaker 1: and R people wanted it for them maybe and and
Speaker 1: Luke was like, you know, I want this song and
Speaker 1: he ended up recording it, you know, like after you know,
Speaker 1: you never know, I mean when you're holding a song,
Speaker 1: and especially now me knowing as an artist, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're taking a chance on if you don't record it.
Speaker 1: There these writers are missing out on you know, other
Speaker 1: big artists recording the songs food. I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: and and that's why I'm so glad I got to
Speaker 1: do the writing thing, and I still do, but come
Speaker 1: up that way because I want to write all my stuff,
Speaker 1: but I don't have to have to. I know, I
Speaker 1: can't write every song because there's too many great songwriters here.
Speaker 1: And if they're gonna send me their best stuff, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's how you support the interest.
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna record that just because of that reason.
Speaker 1: But I think there's so many great songs that you know,
Speaker 1: we're lucky enough to build record outside. I mean, I'd
Speaker 1: like to write them all, but I don't. I'm fortunate
Speaker 1: to have people sending me there's now know, and that's
Speaker 1: a I'm that's a compliment. So let me ask you
Speaker 1: something about your boy Luke. Why is he falling down
Speaker 1: all the time. We're talking about this today, Like he
Speaker 1: jumped on a beer cooler? Just he's dangerous. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: He's he's worn't too much money and he's getting a
Speaker 1: lot of people depending on him out there, but he's
Speaker 1: got too many people to pay. I know, he's I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, He's an entertainer. And that's that's something
Speaker 1: that I don't know, I literally though I think from
Speaker 1: being around it, I'm careful, but I have like anxiety
Speaker 1: about falling off illness all of it. Man, Because again,
Speaker 1: if you're not making money, that people that you have,
Speaker 1: you're paying aren't making money. And that's that's uh. And
Speaker 1: that's something that I never you know, you never think
Speaker 1: about those things when you're chasing the dream that you
Speaker 1: might get to a level where you got a lot
Speaker 1: of people behind you that are helping you on your team.
Speaker 1: And every little thing you do, every decision you make,
Speaker 1: every song you release, every whatever, it matters. But those
Speaker 1: people and there's people depending on you, and it's a
Speaker 1: good thing to have responsibility like that. But I don't
Speaker 1: think some people understand the pressure that that we're you know,
Speaker 1: put in these situations anybody in in the entertainment business
Speaker 1: I'm speaking of. So it's, uh, it's a different thing
Speaker 1: that I don't think some things they really realized that, hey,
Speaker 1: everything um we're doing is affecting all of the people
Speaker 1: on our team. So let's go back to you moving
Speaker 1: to Nashville. So what's the how old are you? Uh,
Speaker 1: what's the thought? Did you always like just put me
Speaker 1: where you are? How old you were? See a lot
Speaker 1: of people, Um, I was, uh leaving college. I left college.
Speaker 1: I mean I had like eighteen nineteen hours. A lot
Speaker 1: of people don't even uh, I don't know that, but
Speaker 1: you know, it was just something that I had to do.
Speaker 1: I was, I was playing shows, and I'd already just go.
Speaker 1: When I got to college, I didn't. I was undeclared major.
Speaker 1: I finally settled in on marketing and and did got
Speaker 1: so close. But it was just it was time and
Speaker 1: I knew that I love music, I knew what I
Speaker 1: wanted to do, and you know, I knew I had
Speaker 1: to get to Nashville. So I moved. I was I
Speaker 1: think twenty three is August twenty three, my dad's birthday
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, so uh yeah, August seven, moved to Nashville.
Speaker 1: I remember broke my mom. She was clue, I mean,
Speaker 1: just couldn't understand. She had never really even seen me
Speaker 1: playing bars or anything. Didn't really understand. You know, I
Speaker 1: loved music growing up, but it wasn't She had never
Speaker 1: really seen you know, me play and didn't get it
Speaker 1: like some of my friends did. And there was a
Speaker 1: lot of people that didn't get it, thought I was crazy,
Speaker 1: And those are the people I think that end up
Speaker 1: motivating you. But so I moved to Nashville, and I
Speaker 1: just that was, you know, to write a song. I
Speaker 1: didn't know what I was gonna do. I was in
Speaker 1: contact with Luke. I had his manager carry, which ended
Speaker 1: up she's my manager now we uh, you know that
Speaker 1: he needed a merchandise guy at that time. He we
Speaker 1: met uh he you know, I in college. I was
Speaker 1: in fraternity fraternity Sint Maca, and he was there a
Speaker 1: few years earlier than the same fraternity. Uh. He was
Speaker 1: in a band there while he was in college. And
Speaker 1: they had come back to do like a like do
Speaker 1: a show that weekend, and he just stopped by and
Speaker 1: I knew his name and knew that he was pretty
Speaker 1: popular in the local, you know, coming through Statesboro. So
Speaker 1: he stopped to change his strings guitar strings for that night.
Speaker 1: And met him, and he sat down and said, can
Speaker 1: I care if I play all some stuff I wrote
Speaker 1: up in Nashville. And I was like, stuff you wrote?
Speaker 1: You know, I was that's I was singing cover songs.
Speaker 1: And I remember he played a song that he had written,
Speaker 1: and it just blew my mind that he made that
Speaker 1: up and made me feel like that, you know, and
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, and that's really that was a
Speaker 1: big moment. And my knowing that, man, some of my
Speaker 1: people are behind there's people that aren't singing this, that
Speaker 1: are behind these songs writing to me and I I
Speaker 1: learned about who the songwriters were. And from then on,
Speaker 1: when I buy an album, I was looking at every
Speaker 1: single cut on the album that I loved that I
Speaker 1: thought maybe you should be on the radio and looking
Speaker 1: at the writers and that, uh, that changed my whole
Speaker 1: view on songwright. And then you know, it was always
Speaker 1: his demos he had sent me. But you know, then
Speaker 1: Eric Church's first album, Dirt Spent, when his first album
Speaker 1: came out, and that was just those are the guy
Speaker 1: They were writing their own songs, and I just I
Speaker 1: don't know that changed me. I said, I wanted to
Speaker 1: you know, I knew I wasn't writing the songs I
Speaker 1: was singing, and I just want to be one one
Speaker 1: of the guys that made people feel the way I did.
Speaker 1: So So two thousand seven, you pack up what would
Speaker 1: you pack up? I mean, not a bed, nothing, my clothes,
Speaker 1: I had a I had a ninety six Chevrolet trucks.
Speaker 1: He seventy one. That's uh, that's truck. I well know.
Speaker 1: That was what I had when I was sixteen. So
Speaker 1: I had just a black Chevallet truck. So you loaded
Speaker 1: downloaded down. It didn't have it was just all in
Speaker 1: the in the bed. Because I had a guy here
Speaker 1: that was from close to my town, um Cliff Corps,
Speaker 1: that that had a a house here that he was
Speaker 1: living in and they had a small extra room and
Speaker 1: he's like, man, there's a there's a bed, but you
Speaker 1: know you're not eve gonna have any room for any
Speaker 1: furnish or anything. There's you can have to put your
Speaker 1: computer in the closet. And but I had to get
Speaker 1: a flat screen TV at that tip, I mean they
Speaker 1: were common, but still that I had to hang it
Speaker 1: on the wall because it wouldn't even fit in front
Speaker 1: of the TV where you walk through. So I was
Speaker 1: never there, you know, I was on the road a lot.
Speaker 1: I got the merchant Knights job, so that was I
Speaker 1: didn't have to pack a whole lot. Man, I never
Speaker 1: when I moved up to I didn't bring a bed
Speaker 1: or anything. It just I lived here for a while
Speaker 1: until I moved, you know, probably uh where I moved
Speaker 1: after a year, and then I lived there for about
Speaker 1: six years. So what you do? You write Monday through
Speaker 1: Thursday and then go out and sell merch for Luke
Speaker 1: on the weekend. You know, I'd like to say I
Speaker 1: had it set up like that, but you know, at first,
Speaker 1: who do you write with? I mean, how do I'm
Speaker 1: a merchant? Ask? Nobody took me serious, and I think
Speaker 1: that had a lot to do with when I was
Speaker 1: first coming out, people weren't really sure if I you know,
Speaker 1: I was like, who's this guy that just got off
Speaker 1: and got off the road selling T shirts? But I think, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how it happened like that.
Speaker 1: But to right, you know, every day you can't do
Speaker 1: that without appointments, and to me, I had to meet people.
Speaker 1: So I had a couple of buddies that I'd write
Speaker 1: with you I might right twice a week if I could.
Speaker 1: But the more I did it, you know, i'd right
Speaker 1: on the road when I could with Michael. But just
Speaker 1: thinking about and just knowing that, man, I'm not there yet.
Speaker 1: I'm not there yet. I mean, I can't wait till
Speaker 1: one day getting the room with some of these guys
Speaker 1: and I can learn, and but I'm glad I didn't.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I had to learn by myself with the
Speaker 1: guys that were on my level. And I think that's
Speaker 1: how you that's how you grow, and it's you know,
Speaker 1: I wrote when I could, but the more I did,
Speaker 1: the more I you know, I think you got the
Speaker 1: feel of it. And it was just a dignity that
Speaker 1: feeling I used to have on stage of entertaining and
Speaker 1: watching people have fun. Now it was coming up with
Speaker 1: that line or what I thought was good and that feeling.
Speaker 1: It just took over. And so songwriting was my new
Speaker 1: love at that point. So when you were selling for Luke,
Speaker 1: did he know you wanted to be an artist? And
Speaker 1: is that a weird dynamic because that yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, he knew that I was
Speaker 1: interesting music. He knew I loved music and I wanted
Speaker 1: to be a songwriter. And I think he you know,
Speaker 1: that was his way of saying, hey, well, you know,
Speaker 1: come out here and see what goes on. And kind
Speaker 1: of it wasn't a really long term plan, but it
Speaker 1: was something I went out one weekend and ended up
Speaker 1: being out for like three years. But you know that's
Speaker 1: not what I moved to do. But it gave me
Speaker 1: an opportunity to just be around the business and be
Speaker 1: around radio and see how a new artist, I mean see,
Speaker 1: I had always thought Luke was the big star back
Speaker 1: that that he is now, but it just, you know,
Speaker 1: it took a little bit for everything to catch them,
Speaker 1: but for me to see how he did things, how
Speaker 1: he treated people, uh you know, his team, and it
Speaker 1: just think it helped me when I finally got my chance,
Speaker 1: I felt like I had been around it. I've seen
Speaker 1: the good and the bad of the business. I've seen
Speaker 1: singles uh tap the charts I've seen. I saw me
Speaker 1: and him both loved you know, died thirty seven, and
Speaker 1: it just you know, things like that at going through
Speaker 1: that with a a friend and then finally getting your
Speaker 1: chance like I do now. I mean, I obviously I
Speaker 1: can't thank him enough, but I think, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: things like that make you want to get to a
Speaker 1: point where you can give back and help people, because
Speaker 1: he's certainly you know, put his uh name out there
Speaker 1: and I've tried to do the best I can, write
Speaker 1: the best songs, and um, you know, make a name
Speaker 1: for myself telling about the hat because everybody thinks it
Speaker 1: means Coleswindell and it doesn't. But tell me about the
Speaker 1: hat and why you wear that hat all the time,
Speaker 1: because you're not making money off that hat, are you. No? No,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I'm just obviously a hat
Speaker 1: guy's kind of kind of my thing. And the Georgia
Speaker 1: Southern thing. It just I remember when, um, I went
Speaker 1: out and did some of my first shows when I
Speaker 1: got my band and I was gonna try to start
Speaker 1: getting a record deal. You know, I had a Georgia
Speaker 1: Southern baseball hat, one of the new ones, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm just gonna rock this, and we ended
Speaker 1: up out on a big tour and uh just pictures
Speaker 1: on the internet, you know, like coming out and they're like,
Speaker 1: who's this guy wearing the Georgia Georgia Southern people? Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we're noticing that. I saw a lot of
Speaker 1: alumni that we're like, this guy's repping our college, you
Speaker 1: know when I went to school there for six years
Speaker 1: and our five five years something and you know it's
Speaker 1: where I got my start, and it just kind of
Speaker 1: I don't know, I like to to be loyal where
Speaker 1: I come from, and it just kind of stuck with me.
Speaker 1: And then I know, I don't know how because it
Speaker 1: looks like a c I understand that, but if you
Speaker 1: look at it is it's obviously, but I can understand it.
Speaker 1: So maybe, look, you've got all kind of cool hats,
Speaker 1: so maybe we can just design me a new one.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't even want that. No. I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of people think it's my yeah initials.
Speaker 1: But if you don't make any money off that Georgia
Speaker 1: Southern hat, no, I just I just think it's something
Speaker 1: that nobody knows that Georgia and I get a chance
Speaker 1: to represent my college where my family we all, I
Speaker 1: mean everybody, I think everybody graduated with me from there,
Speaker 1: but everybody went there, and it's just I don't know,
Speaker 1: I love that school, Arkansas. I don't always wonder I
Speaker 1: got you. Yeah, well, you know, I appreciate. Do you
Speaker 1: sell Georgia's other hats at your shows? Um? Now they
Speaker 1: have them in the bookstore like at the at the college,
Speaker 1: so it's like, I mean, they had a graph of
Speaker 1: the sales of baseball hats before I started wearing it.
Speaker 1: Now and it's pretty it's pretty funny. But to me,
Speaker 1: it's the cost mer booth of the college. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, but I make I mean, you know, I
Speaker 1: have my own line of merch down there at Georgia
Speaker 1: Southern now, so it's uh, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: they don't do anything like the baseball hats, but it's
Speaker 1: still I mean, just to be tied in when I
Speaker 1: used to be a kid in that bookstore. Now I
Speaker 1: have stuff in there. But it's, uh, it's pretty wild
Speaker 1: to think about that. But they're I know, they're proud
Speaker 1: of me, and I'm I'm proud to represent them. So
Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad, glad you uh know, proud of where
Speaker 1: you come from. I mean, I know this story. I
Speaker 1: just wanted you to say anything because a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't know. I well, thank you, and this is
Speaker 1: a lot of people listening, and this is my only way.
Speaker 1: And that's You're funny about people tweeting and stuff like
Speaker 1: when I get you know, a couple of TV moments
Speaker 1: here and there, But when I do, that's like the
Speaker 1: meanest thing. It's like, why is this guy think he
Speaker 1: can just wear his initial And it's like, well, hey,
Speaker 1: I mean, if that's not the worst thing, I guess
Speaker 1: I can. I can deal with that. But yeah, well
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Speaker 1: way to cook. Alright, cool cold Cole. We have so
Speaker 1: many hits. Let's see where do we starts? How about
Speaker 1: hope you get lowly tonight? Tell me something about this one.
Speaker 1: This is now what we opened the show with. It
Speaker 1: was my second single to to radio. And this is
Speaker 1: a song that I wrote with Brian and Tyler vif
Speaker 1: J m uh Michael Carter, my producer. We were out.
Speaker 1: I was just out riding before I have my record deal.
Speaker 1: We are oute. It was M F G. L. Thompson
Speaker 1: Square and Luke I think on tour and I was
Speaker 1: out riding and we got together that day one day
Speaker 1: on tour wrote this song and I remember just freaking
Speaker 1: out the melody. We were like, oh my god. We
Speaker 1: uh played it even after the show. We're in there
Speaker 1: playing it on on a little boom box, just the
Speaker 1: work tape of it and never knowing what would happen
Speaker 1: with it. What well it went on. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I was saying that my songs were I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get a record deal, and I just assumed f g
Speaker 1: L would record that maybe, so I put it on
Speaker 1: my version because I did the demo. I had my
Speaker 1: version on the things we're sending the labels. Well, somehow
Speaker 1: Jason al Dean got a copy of that song and
Speaker 1: it was like wanted it. And I here, I was
Speaker 1: without a record deal and f GL they you know,
Speaker 1: had a huge song out and they were blowing up
Speaker 1: and you know, here I am just trying. I needed
Speaker 1: a song like that. You know, I needed that song.
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget. Yeah, I mean and and out.
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember, you know he's me and him
Speaker 1: or buddies. Now it's funny. And I ended up touring
Speaker 1: with him a year later to a couple of years later.
Speaker 1: And but you know, to think when a guy you
Speaker 1: you know, love his music, you played every one of
Speaker 1: his songs, coming up, wants a song that you wrote,
Speaker 1: and you know you possibly we're gonna have to say
Speaker 1: I may need to keep this, I mean, and so Carrie,
Speaker 1: you know that that's what she had to They talked
Speaker 1: and he understood, though not I think now. I mean
Speaker 1: that's I have so much respect for for Aldon for
Speaker 1: that and for him recording all these great songs that
Speaker 1: he didn't have to. He could be in the room
Speaker 1: on any of them if he wanted, and he just
Speaker 1: he records great songs. But and not to mention, I mean,
Speaker 1: think about the publishing companies of the other writers and
Speaker 1: stuff like you think they didn't want Jason Aldean to
Speaker 1: have that. I get that, and that's just part of
Speaker 1: the the business that you learn. It's like, man, you
Speaker 1: know when you got and the fact that they let
Speaker 1: me keep it and believe to me enough to say,
Speaker 1: you know what, if you're gonna keep it and you recorded,
Speaker 1: you keep it And and Alden was cool, the writers
Speaker 1: were cool, and it ended up being my second second single.
Speaker 1: How about that you have to make the decision to
Speaker 1: not give superstar Jason Aldina song and you want to
Speaker 1: keep it in don't even have a deal like that's
Speaker 1: ball and your man and I know your manager carry
Speaker 1: and and that says a lot about the faith that
Speaker 1: she had in you yes, and because I mean there's
Speaker 1: you know, when you're having somebody's back and stepping up
Speaker 1: for him, there's gonna be other people in that like
Speaker 1: what do you do? Like are you seriously? What is
Speaker 1: and and you know there's things that you don't think about,
Speaker 1: but you know the way you put that, I mean
Speaker 1: that is that's a big deal. And and things you
Speaker 1: kind of you take about in a while. You said
Speaker 1: no to free money. Yeah, I mean with the risk
Speaker 1: of making more money on the back side, with the
Speaker 1: risk of just having a career. And it's in this
Speaker 1: business you know a lot. You know, it's all about
Speaker 1: the song. You gotta have the right one. I love
Speaker 1: your ball I love them. Oh okay, so I had
Speaker 1: a good story. How about this one here, I don't
Speaker 1: drink to a country song and work their wiskin and
Speaker 1: my last love I'm coming about this riding room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is like, this is crazy. I mean I wrote
Speaker 1: this song five some years. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 1: thought this was on my first one I got my
Speaker 1: publishing deal. This is on my first like uh demo session,
Speaker 1: like this song was and uh nobody wanted it like
Speaker 1: it's and I think it's because the names on it.
Speaker 1: I mean me, Adam Sanders, Josh Martin, I mean three
Speaker 1: guys that nobody. It's like, I think they listened to
Speaker 1: the song and they're like, damn, this is a hit.
Speaker 1: Who is this like some of the hit rup who?
Speaker 1: And I think, I honestly think that had something to
Speaker 1: do with you don't know sometimes And I think that's
Speaker 1: what you work for as a writer. For people when
Speaker 1: you send them, they know it's gonna be good. I mean,
Speaker 1: and that's that was one of those songs that you know,
Speaker 1: had I written that with a big name, I would
Speaker 1: I bet you somebody would record it, not have never
Speaker 1: had it. But the fact that you know many people
Speaker 1: had it on hold. I can't remember who all had it,
Speaker 1: but it never got recorded. That's a weird thing, right,
Speaker 1: Like someone has your song on hold and then they
Speaker 1: let it go because you're like, there's a shot. And
Speaker 1: I think everyone knows every hole doesn't mean cut it.
Speaker 1: That's that's where you start as the first hole one
Speaker 1: is someone here and going I wanna put that a
Speaker 1: hole to make it and I'm gonna put that in
Speaker 1: the basket, yeah, and go back to it. And that
Speaker 1: is you know, these days you realize it might not
Speaker 1: be the biggest deal in the world. But to to
Speaker 1: a songwriter, I mean, your first hold I remember gosh.
Speaker 1: I mean that that's the crazy feeling that that that
Speaker 1: is the first step that, like you said, is for
Speaker 1: somebody to just be interested enough to say, hold on,
Speaker 1: don't send this to anybody else, I'm gonna keep it
Speaker 1: and I'll let you know what. And then you know
Speaker 1: when they let you know pass so that it did,
Speaker 1: yeah it did, and I just you know, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 1: You get your hopes up and at that point, I
Speaker 1: mean I didn't even have a song record. This was
Speaker 1: before water Tiwer any of that. I mean, and you know,
Speaker 1: you get your hopes up and then they're just like,
Speaker 1: oh man, but that's that's a little bit act like
Speaker 1: like when it hits and if they passed on it
Speaker 1: a little bit like and then now it's like, oh man,
Speaker 1: I'm thankful. Yeah, I was glad I had the song
Speaker 1: because ye know, I needed that song. And that's what
Speaker 1: you know, some people you know I had. I was
Speaker 1: fortunate to get some songs recorded before chilling it in
Speaker 1: my red to deal, but like that song right there,
Speaker 1: it really I don't know. The first two did well,
Speaker 1: but that one was another like chill. It kind of
Speaker 1: took me to a different level. That's one of the
Speaker 1: biggest moments of the night still in my shows, that song.
Speaker 1: And I just think it's because it's it's simple country,
Speaker 1: something that's relatable everybody. You know, there's nobody in there
Speaker 1: that hapn't kind of somewhat been through. I been through
Speaker 1: something like that, I feel like, So it's uh, it's
Speaker 1: it's cool to get to perform that and and try
Speaker 1: to help everybody get over get over them mixits. Here's
Speaker 1: another one here from from this guy let me see
Speaker 1: you're lean your head back in your lad Why because
Speaker 1: the way you said that, I mean this is you know,
Speaker 1: this was one of those songs that, um it was
Speaker 1: my fourth single on the first album I I've seen
Speaker 1: this song live for years and you sometimes you have
Speaker 1: to make a call. It comes down to, all right,
Speaker 1: I've got a song, you know, this up tempo that's
Speaker 1: fun that I may need for my show, that I
Speaker 1: may need for just to to have, you know, like
Speaker 1: say it it's one of my singles or maybe a
Speaker 1: song that's made change the world over here, you know,
Speaker 1: like I don't think this is a song that's gonna
Speaker 1: this is no you should be here. But I also
Speaker 1: knew what people didn't know is I knew I had
Speaker 1: you should be here after this, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: go out with something like something fun, and it's just
Speaker 1: one of those things that you know, this is one
Speaker 1: of those you were talking about chilling. Yeah, of course
Speaker 1: I got pushed back on it, and you don't like
Speaker 1: to see that. I mean, I think I had released
Speaker 1: something like Whiskey, and I had shown something this side,
Speaker 1: and here I was going back to the tempo, fun stuff.
Speaker 1: But to me, I mean seeing that live, it's just
Speaker 1: like you just have to roll with it. People are
Speaker 1: gonna say what they say. But then you know, if
Speaker 1: they can come out and watch my show, watch me
Speaker 1: play it live and not get it, then it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's a different deal. But I could see how well
Speaker 1: the reason I did that because I can see how
Speaker 1: some people you know, are gonna push back on that.
Speaker 1: So well, let me play the game changer here gift
Speaker 1: four number one right at this point for you for
Speaker 1: an the ones that you have been the artists for
Speaker 1: a bit artist. So here you come with the game
Speaker 1: changer at number five. You should be for many reasons.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about career first. You know this, this song
Speaker 1: elevated you to the next level. Did you feel that? Absolutely? Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I remember the debut on your show that morning. I
Speaker 1: get to tell that story a lot because the day
Speaker 1: it hit radio, I mean, the stories I started seeing
Speaker 1: on my social media knew. I mean the minute I
Speaker 1: left your studio, I went and down on my Instagram
Speaker 1: and look at at a message and I'll never I'll
Speaker 1: tell you about that at some point, but it's just
Speaker 1: crazy to think the instant impact and you know how
Speaker 1: powerful radio is, and that song, you know, that's what
Speaker 1: I that's what I wanted people to know about. And
Speaker 1: especially coming off a fun song like uh, you know,
Speaker 1: let Me See You Grow, It's like, yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: the fun side of me. But this is me too.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that first part of my album
Speaker 1: showed the fun side of me and that hey, I
Speaker 1: I you know, I want you all to get to
Speaker 1: know me, but you know I life ain't all fun,
Speaker 1: and that that was my chance to release a song
Speaker 1: and show everybody. Look, I'll you put me in this
Speaker 1: position to sing songs, write songs, you know, I got
Speaker 1: every now you know, from time to time, there was
Speaker 1: a special one that that's gonna you know, relate to
Speaker 1: everybody and take you to that next level. I think
Speaker 1: that's you know, the the artists in our format that
Speaker 1: have lasted for years. I mean, they have those kind
Speaker 1: of career songs and when people that's a compliment of
Speaker 1: people like that's the biggest song of your career. You know,
Speaker 1: who knows I want to have a long career. But
Speaker 1: if if any song so far, if I wanted it
Speaker 1: to be a career, it's that one. And that's because
Speaker 1: of what it means to me and the stories I've heard,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, uh, the chance to write a
Speaker 1: song like that is the Nashville dream to me. And
Speaker 1: that's that's why I'm moved. I hate the circumstances, but
Speaker 1: for my career and just knowing I mean, the people
Speaker 1: it's helped, just like you know, when you know I'm
Speaker 1: with songs, I mean, you you do things every single
Speaker 1: day that that helped people. I mean, that's just my
Speaker 1: way of doing is writing a song. And that's it's
Speaker 1: hard to believe that I you know, I've been you know,
Speaker 1: able to do this for a living and that song
Speaker 1: is uh will always be probably the most special song
Speaker 1: I've ever Right, let me see if I noticed you
Speaker 1: get the story right, because I know Actuley who you
Speaker 1: wrote the song one of my favorites. Man. You guys
Speaker 1: were in Boston, Yeah, outside and you and you wrote
Speaker 1: it in the bus yep he Uh. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: like the opener, opener opener of one of the stadium
Speaker 1: tours up there. And yeah, we were up there and
Speaker 1: Goreley was out riding with me, and I remember he
Speaker 1: had walked in to take, uh a picture of the
Speaker 1: set up here. Mean, here's a state, you know, for
Speaker 1: anybody that's never been to a stadium show, as a
Speaker 1: stage in the middle of a football stadium. And he
Speaker 1: sent a picture to his daughter and it said with
Speaker 1: the stadium and the stage and said you should be here,
Speaker 1: and uh he had that idea. So we're back on
Speaker 1: the bus and he's like, hey, man, I was inside,
Speaker 1: I had this idea, sent a picture my daughter, you
Speaker 1: should be here, and you know here here he was
Speaker 1: thinking missing his family and and immediately I think about,
Speaker 1: you know, missing my dad, and uh, it was just
Speaker 1: one of those things where immediately said Ashley, please let
Speaker 1: me write this with you, man Plea And he said, well,
Speaker 1: that's why, that's why I brought it up, you know,
Speaker 1: and it just kind of it was one of those
Speaker 1: meant to be things. I mean that from the whole
Speaker 1: time when we started writing it, we I told him
Speaker 1: it's like, if if we do do it this way,
Speaker 1: I wanted everybody to be able to relate to it,
Speaker 1: whether they miss him, if you know, because everybody hasn't
Speaker 1: you know, might not have have been through lost somebody
Speaker 1: I hadn't been through that, but um, I wanted to
Speaker 1: be just everybody to bould relate to it. And I
Speaker 1: think that's why we We didn't write it just about
Speaker 1: a loss. We wrote it about the moments, and I
Speaker 1: think that's what makes that one. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of songs about loss, but to me, this one
Speaker 1: is just about those moments where in life. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that I'd give anything, you know,
Speaker 1: you just want you want that one person to call
Speaker 1: or they just make it that much better and it
Speaker 1: means uh means that much more so to me. Uh,
Speaker 1: that song is is something that you know, getting to
Speaker 1: play every night, seeing the crowd. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to believe that that music is that powerful, but
Speaker 1: it is. How about this one number six and the
Speaker 1: middle of do You Even Miss? Like you can't even
Speaker 1: miss you, don't even miss, don't even miss? Another Ashley
Speaker 1: Gorly is a crowd right here, man Greig. I mean
Speaker 1: this was written in the middle of another song. That's
Speaker 1: the cool thing about Yeah. So you know I put
Speaker 1: out these things EPs called the down Home Sessions. We've
Speaker 1: done several versions of those, and there was a song
Speaker 1: on one of them called Kiss that a lot of
Speaker 1: the fans it's like a fan favorite of my down
Speaker 1: Home Sessions. Will there's a line in the second verse
Speaker 1: that says, girl, you left me here with half a
Speaker 1: beer in the middle of a memory. And when we
Speaker 1: came up with that line in the room, me Zack
Speaker 1: and actually start were like, the middle of a memory.
Speaker 1: We gotta actually said, we gotta write that right now.
Speaker 1: So that I learned a lesson that day from Gorly.
Speaker 1: Actually Gorly that we stopped that other song and started
Speaker 1: writing this one. I mean, just right out of the blue,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are you doing? Usually I would
Speaker 1: have just save the title, went back to it, but
Speaker 1: I learned that day, you don't, you know, we already
Speaker 1: had a good start on the other one, like why
Speaker 1: not start a new one right here and see what happens?
Speaker 1: And it just flowed right out and it's it's one
Speaker 1: of those you know, when there's a story like that
Speaker 1: behind usually it's a special, special song. And to me,
Speaker 1: this one was always one of my favorites and just
Speaker 1: another uh you know song that that's uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It helped me get to where I ends. Six single,
Speaker 1: guy didn't mess Let's do this is the one. Now.
Speaker 1: Depending what you may hear this from a year or now,
Speaker 1: he may have three more songs out, but right now,
Speaker 1: you Dirk Flatlighter, this is there's a story why Dirk
Speaker 1: is on the song? All right? Like why Dirk? How
Speaker 1: Dirk came up on this song? Yeah, I mean, uh,
Speaker 1: you know before the tour hadn't I mean, I had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. We before I got my record,
Speaker 1: you know, I was writing songs every day. When we
Speaker 1: were writing the song, me and Jared Boyer and Matt Bromley,
Speaker 1: we I mean, in the middle of the song, I
Speaker 1: was like, man, this sounds like something dirts could sing
Speaker 1: and I remember us just thinking like this sounds like
Speaker 1: a you know, let's pitch this the dirts when we
Speaker 1: get done with it. Well, I wasn't really I knew him,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't close enough with him to sending the song.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if he ever even heard it.
Speaker 1: And uh, years later, I'm sure obviously the years later, Uh,
Speaker 1: I told him the story and he had, you know,
Speaker 1: text me. He was a fan of chilling it and
Speaker 1: some stuff, and I told him. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: there's this song that I wrote, uh for you with
Speaker 1: with some guys a couple of years ago, but I
Speaker 1: don't think you've heard and he said, sended. I did,
Speaker 1: and uh, he wrote back and said he loved He's like, man,
Speaker 1: that sounds like a smash, uh, you know. And I'll
Speaker 1: just joke. I said, well, man, if I ever recorded you,
Speaker 1: you should record it with me. And it was just
Speaker 1: kind of a running joke, you know, we'd see each
Speaker 1: other and if he brought it up, I love, But
Speaker 1: that's just dirts. He always remembers something that that you associated.
Speaker 1: He's like, man, that Flatliner song always, you know, I
Speaker 1: love that song, and it just he always brought that
Speaker 1: up and and I didn't never think he was serious.
Speaker 1: So when we went the album to record the album, um,
Speaker 1: we asked him and he was, yeah, you don't want
Speaker 1: to put somebody on that spot. I mean, I literally
Speaker 1: it was one of those I'm the kind of person
Speaker 1: I like, you sure you want to? I was like,
Speaker 1: please tell him. If he doesn't want to, his fine,
Speaker 1: because I I just don't like to be put on
Speaker 1: the spot like that. And and to know that's a
Speaker 1: he's got his own career, and you know, I understand
Speaker 1: if if that's not something that he wanted to do,
Speaker 1: but I think he knew how much it means or
Speaker 1: knows how much it means to me. And uh now
Speaker 1: and and I'm I'm glad we get to perform it.
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't plan on being on tour, but
Speaker 1: the fact that the tour worked out, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think that had something to do with it being you know,
Speaker 1: the single and just to to make everything come full
Speaker 1: circle me for me, those college shows I talked about earlier.
Speaker 1: I mean, Dirk Spentley's first album, I mean, Settled for
Speaker 1: a Slowdown by him is one of my favorite songs ever,
Speaker 1: I think, and now I'm out here touring with him
Speaker 1: and getting to learn and talk about you know, I've
Speaker 1: been on some big tours, great tours, but he's just
Speaker 1: he's just the most real dude man. And it's it's, uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to find a guy that's a superstar
Speaker 1: at that more down to earth and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: he's just a good person to have in our format
Speaker 1: for for every new artist to look up to me, everybody.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just he's one of those good dudes.
Speaker 1: And he's a grinder. Not on grinder, but he is
Speaker 1: a grinder. He might be on grinder. How Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: off his phone. I saw he's had enough of it.
Speaker 1: He's been working hard. So he's working. He's been around
Speaker 1: man a long time, and that's what those people. Yes,
Speaker 1: and it's been that and he'll talk about it. He's
Speaker 1: not scared to talk about mistakes he's made and where
Speaker 1: I went wrong. And I mean we're you know, I've
Speaker 1: only flown with him a couple of times, but he's
Speaker 1: always back there trying to tell me, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, do that, make sure you're doing the right thing.
Speaker 1: Don't let this bother you, Like just Swstummer, do you
Speaker 1: let him fly you because I won't get this here airplane,
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, he uh, he's got you know,
Speaker 1: he can fly. And then also Austin another pilot this
Speaker 1: with him, but we usually just hang and I let them.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't let him fly. We'll just hangs.
Speaker 1: So I don't. I'm not a fan of him either,
Speaker 1: but man, the traveling just you know, it's been cool
Speaker 1: just getting to to do it a couple of times.
Speaker 1: But that's you know, I'm I'm good with riding the
Speaker 1: bus too. I'm I'm lucky enough to to have a bus,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna stick stick with that for a while.
Speaker 1: Let me play a couple more songs here, because you're
Speaker 1: you're in the fly like this. They have seven songs
Speaker 1: for four years. How about this one here? I wrote
Speaker 1: this way. I made some money off this. This is
Speaker 1: that's crazy, the thing that that's probably, I mean, I
Speaker 1: sold more than any song I've written. And then I
Speaker 1: can't explain that. Do you still get check sport this song?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I don't, I haven't, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I haven't asked specifically, but probably I mean probably with that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean with the that the remix. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was all kind of I've never really had a song
Speaker 1: that had any kind of crossover artists on it or anything,
Speaker 1: so it was it was a big song. But that just,
Speaker 1: you know, that shows you out those songs and I
Speaker 1: needed those because, you know, for the first three or
Speaker 1: four years, and I had while I was building up
Speaker 1: to these seven singles, only had a hit or two.
Speaker 1: And there I was getting to play roller Coaster, get
Speaker 1: me some of that, and this is how we roll
Speaker 1: in my set, and I'm you know, big songs, uh
Speaker 1: and and uh you know that. I just remember me
Speaker 1: and Brian starting that song and and Tyler coming in
Speaker 1: and they was the shooting bullets at the moonline. Luke
Speaker 1: has said it in his show, and and Brian asked,
Speaker 1: He's like, you think we should add I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: I ask him. I don't think he's gonna want to
Speaker 1: come over here and write, but I'll ask him. And
Speaker 1: he came over and listened to just a little bit
Speaker 1: we had, and we finished it and they got to
Speaker 1: sing it and I didn't get to sing it. I
Speaker 1: just got the song right and credit. So I've been
Speaker 1: introducing myself to Jason's Ruler ever since. Like, hey man,
Speaker 1: I'm I wrote that song too with them, but we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that later. I'm the guy with my initials
Speaker 1: on my hat. You're you're the guy. Yeah, you see
Speaker 1: us hat. I play one more. We'll go back in
Speaker 1: time a little bit, being luke. Wow, this is the
Speaker 1: one I didn't want to give up. This is this
Speaker 1: is the song that made me keep chilling it. It
Speaker 1: was so huge to have cuts on this album for
Speaker 1: I can't remember the title of this album, but I
Speaker 1: mean this was when roller Coaster was on UM and
Speaker 1: and a couple more this one obviously, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just like to have three cuts on the album
Speaker 1: that big was so huge for me. And that was
Speaker 1: right when people are like, I mean, this guy is
Speaker 1: the next I mean, he's got three songs on this
Speaker 1: big album. Blah blah blah. You know, so this is Uh,
Speaker 1: it changed everything for me. I said it, all right, well,
Speaker 1: this is the song I loved. I mean, and I
Speaker 1: just always hoped to be a single. But that was fine.
Speaker 1: I just knew that when I gave that, when I said, alarright,
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna do the artist thing, uh, there's gotta
Speaker 1: be a point where I keep a song. The next
Speaker 1: song I write that I think I love like that,
Speaker 1: I have to keep it. I mean, there's no there's
Speaker 1: no way if I'm gonna con seriously be be the
Speaker 1: artist I want to be because I know how important
Speaker 1: a song is. And you know, that was the song
Speaker 1: I loved. And then two months later, me and Shane
Speaker 1: miner Uh wrote Chilling It, and that's when I knew,
Speaker 1: I literally knew. I said, this is what I want
Speaker 1: my first single to be. I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what we gotta do, but this is what this
Speaker 1: is it. This is how I want the world to
Speaker 1: hear me right her first song. Let's get their attention
Speaker 1: right here, chilling and that was that's what we went with.
Speaker 1: Look at you. You haven't missed yet, I know, yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's what there's people it's I know that's I'm
Speaker 1: really stick. I don't want that pressure on me my team.
Speaker 1: I don't you know that every song is not a
Speaker 1: number one. I mean I think there's you know, some
Speaker 1: songs that I'm gonna get the chance to say things
Speaker 1: I want to that might not be a number one
Speaker 1: radio hit, but it's gonna impact people. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a song that it's on my current album. Um you
Speaker 1: know that it's called Remember Boys that Andrew Dorff and
Speaker 1: Brad Tirsty from Old Dominion they wrote not that song.
Speaker 1: I get to play that live every night. And it's
Speaker 1: just songs like that that. It's like, man, you know,
Speaker 1: that's why I record songs I didn't write because I
Speaker 1: can't write that. I didn't write it, but I wish
Speaker 1: I had. I wish I would have written it. And
Speaker 1: I think being an artist, you you're fortunate. You get to,
Speaker 1: you know, take people's work and and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: put your spin on it, and that's it stays around.
Speaker 1: I mean that those kind of songs really touch people.
Speaker 1: And I think you know it's coming off flatliner. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a big decision what's next. And you know,
Speaker 1: so if I give you a couple of titles like
Speaker 1: Stay Downtown or Broke Down, I wish you would listen
Speaker 1: and let me know over the next couple of weeks
Speaker 1: what you think. I don't have no idea. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna listen. You're just gonna if you see, if you
Speaker 1: play it, we'll see, we'll see. I'm like, if I
Speaker 1: play it. It's like the email when you said, OK, let'
Speaker 1: don't let's don't listen. Let's just, uh, we'll see you.
Speaker 1: I don't listen to anybody's I don't like. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't blame you, because you know what, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want that kind of having to respond. Y'all just put
Speaker 1: what you want out and if it's not universal, absolutely
Speaker 1: then and I've like, I understand, I really did, like,
Speaker 1: I don't blame you. I'm friendly with Stapleton because I
Speaker 1: was having Chris out before even Traveler came out. So
Speaker 1: Chris has always been really loyal to me because I was.
Speaker 1: I loved him early of course, because it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to see you my new album. I haven't
Speaker 1: told Chris no. I was like, dude, and that was
Speaker 1: the hardest thing to do because I love that I'll
Speaker 1: take it. Yeah, I was like, I can't take it.
Speaker 1: Earlier I can't take but I just feel like if
Speaker 1: I can be like my listeners and here the day
Speaker 1: it comes out, then I'm still that is well. I
Speaker 1: just blew my mind. I mean, why why wouldn't you
Speaker 1: do that? That's the I want to experience it like
Speaker 1: my people experience, and that is I think that's something
Speaker 1: that wow, I haven't thought about. But like in our
Speaker 1: format or just our business, I mean, we I hear
Speaker 1: a song, you know, and I'm tired by the time
Speaker 1: anybody else, even here's I know it so well that
Speaker 1: I can't even feel what they're like. I don't know
Speaker 1: what that first time feeling that's the best. I mean,
Speaker 1: the first time you hear a song, first time you
Speaker 1: realize I love this song. I mean, you can't go
Speaker 1: back to that, like once you've heard it a hundred times,
Speaker 1: you can't go back to that. So that is really
Speaker 1: cool that that But that's how you stay in touch
Speaker 1: with your listeners, your fans. I mean, you're one of them,
Speaker 1: and that's what you know. You do that. I try
Speaker 1: to do the same thing on stage. I want them
Speaker 1: to know that I'm I'm just like them. I just
Speaker 1: get the stand ups here for you know, forty five
Speaker 1: minutes and night, however long it is. I appreciate you
Speaker 1: coming by. Are you this has been? This is awesome.
Speaker 1: I will do and I want I'll talk about all
Speaker 1: the great things you did, like please, let's I want
Speaker 1: to be I'm gonna be a part of something soon,
Speaker 1: So just let me know. Man, I'm you do a lot,
Speaker 1: and I wanna you know, I've been fortunate too, so
Speaker 1: I wanna want to help how account I know it's
Speaker 1: about it's about them, but we're we're very fortunate, and
Speaker 1: I know I want to say congrats to you also
Speaker 1: own there for for the induction and the whole of
Speaker 1: that's and you don't want to talk about, but it's
Speaker 1: to me that's I do not want to talk about.
Speaker 1: But absolutely I just want you to know, I, uh,
Speaker 1: that's that's huge, and congrats and uh you deserve it.
Speaker 1: Thanks for all the good you do. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: All right. Colsonondella is here, and depending when you hear
Speaker 1: this uh flat liners that's out or his next did
Speaker 1: people here nineteen, he may have this new hip hop
Speaker 1: song with me goes that's all over cout Okay, you
Speaker 1: never know. Well, we got this interview the way and
Speaker 1: Haley Steinfeldt the new colsonon Deale with Hailey Steinfeld's out
Speaker 1: you picked out? All right? So what episode is my
Speaker 1: sixties seven? Wrapping up sixty seven? Good to see you
Speaker 1: but always good to see thank you, and we will
Speaker 1: h see you next time. Here on the Bobbycast. Thanks
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