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Speaker 1: I welcome to episode sixty seven Bobby Cast with Cole Swindell.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, good to be here at seven. We've done

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Speaker 1: we've done a lot. And that the thing about this thing,

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Speaker 1: we never really planned on it being something big, and

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Speaker 1: not that it's something big now because I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: just in my house right and I actually left my

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Speaker 1: bedroom door open. I never leave my bedroom door open.

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Speaker 1: We will come over this. This is a sweet place, man,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate. I walked in and I'm like, man, this

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Speaker 1: is this looks like where Bobby Bonds lives. Man, this

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Speaker 1: is uh, it's a great, great idea that man. And

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Speaker 1: And to be like I said, you've been You've had

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Speaker 1: a lot of interviews, so I'm glad to just just

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Speaker 1: be on here. Well, we're happy to have you. And

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Speaker 1: Cole and I were sitting at a table and a

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Speaker 1: board meeting, if you can take of calling together at

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Speaker 1: a board meeting, and we were the first thing to leave,

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Speaker 1: not the first thing to leave. But we have different

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Speaker 1: kinds hours. Our jobs are different hours everybody else's and

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Speaker 1: so we're on the A c M board and I

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Speaker 1: am happy to be on the A c M board.

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Speaker 1: But those nine am ten am eleven AM meetings difficult.

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Speaker 1: You first of all, don't wake up until at least then,

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Speaker 1: and me I'm out by then. Yeah, like I'm just roasted.

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Speaker 1: So we go to this meeting and they put us

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Speaker 1: at the table and it's me and cold. There's only

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Speaker 1: to the people at the table, we were like, you

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Speaker 1: well we'll catch up with your later. Just taking a

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Speaker 1: let us know what happened. At least we were together, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because that was yeah, board meeting that early, man, and

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Speaker 1: whatn't wasn't my thing? But how did you get on

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Speaker 1: a board? How did you get on it? That's what

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Speaker 1: I would like to know. I mean, I remember when

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Speaker 1: I found out when Carrie told me that, Hey, they

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Speaker 1: I didn't ask how did that happen? I honestly don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I guess you know, when it

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, man, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: I you know, I am a part of it, but

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Speaker 1: I know that, you know, just to be a part

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Speaker 1: of a thing like that that you know, that was

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Speaker 1: mean there's that you're in there, there's there's managers, producer

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Speaker 1: for you know, there's other artists on it, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I think I was one of the only ones that

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Speaker 1: So it's, uh, it's a cool thing, man. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: more about the industry and other people's opinions, and it's

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Speaker 1: same page and opinions I just like mine. Well you

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Speaker 1: but remember when you stood up and saved our table.

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Speaker 1: That was like my biggest fear, like going back to

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Speaker 1: asking our tables. All right, what did y'all, What did

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Speaker 1: y'all come up with him? Bobby? You stood up and

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Speaker 1: like what just happened? I just blocked out. It was

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Speaker 1: to go back. So you know, what's interesting about you

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Speaker 1: I do on purpose kind of yeah, I just kind of,

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Speaker 1: and that's just dealing with some of it. But to me,

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Speaker 1: I just kind of keep it, keep it low key.

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Speaker 1: But um like nothing, I can always find something. What

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Speaker 1: do you I mean, what like what? Well, No, I

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Speaker 1: you have a lot of songs, Yeah, you have. And

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Speaker 1: I you know, but I think as far as that stuff,

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about your day to day. What did you

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Speaker 1: wake up? I woke up actually pretty early. I went

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Speaker 1: Actually I got I got to here a little bit

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Speaker 1: I got a got a quick little workout in and

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Speaker 1: So UH went and did that. We started that was

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Speaker 1: And you know, I've got some family in town, two

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Speaker 1: amazing thing. Me and Cold have been buddies for a while.

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Speaker 1: I just had a little management meeting about some stuff,

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Speaker 1: you know what we we got in the future coming

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Speaker 1: up and looking forward to coming over here. So that's

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Speaker 1: been my day so far. So when you walk into

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Speaker 1: I mean I remember one of the stories um for me,

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Speaker 1: the first time we ever read the first the road.

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Speaker 1: so let me stop you. So you're going to write it.

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Speaker 1: How long you've been nashvill when you're at the song, Um,

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Speaker 1: about it's just it's he's a great dude. So to

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Speaker 1: just just that was a cool moment for me. But

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Speaker 1: Thomas read that was a different level. You know, Um, Paula,

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Speaker 1: let me stop you. So this Scott even Carry song.

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Speaker 1: All right, so after water Tower Town, what's the next

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Speaker 1: I was like, I liked it. And I remember playing

427
00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,800
Speaker 1: it and I know you. I've never met, I know,

428
00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,359
Speaker 1: but I had heard. I remember my mom telling me

429
00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,199
Speaker 1: that you were playing it like and that was and

430
00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,359
Speaker 1: you're texting you said, my mom heard this song on

431
00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:26,879
Speaker 1: the radio. For the first I had to get your no,

432
00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,120
Speaker 1: of course, you know, I just I was like, hey,

433
00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,919
Speaker 1: my labels, like, can you get me Bobby Bones? And

434
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,000
Speaker 1: my mom's freaking out he played my song. I just

435
00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,239
Speaker 1: want to thank you because at that point, you know

436
00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,119
Speaker 1: how I mean, somebody's got to give you a chance,

437
00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,840
Speaker 1: and that you know, when you're a new artist and

438
00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,639
Speaker 1: an artist and I mean putting out a new song anything,

439
00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,320
Speaker 1: you got to have people that believe in you. And uh,

440
00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,920
Speaker 1: I will never I will never forget that the people

441
00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,880
Speaker 1: that you know you met at the beginning that kind

442
00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,080
Speaker 1: of gave you that shot. I mean, from from you

443
00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:59,480
Speaker 1: to my label to Cooler the CD and even listening

444
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,720
Speaker 1: to CD, I like, he said, a beg old cooler

445
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,159
Speaker 1: up here. What am I gonna do with it? Well,

446
00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,600
Speaker 1: at least you like the song, they'd be better than

447
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,399
Speaker 1: the Cooler Sons. But I was like, well, let me,

448
00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,320
Speaker 1: let me listen to it, let me download this, And

449
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,679
Speaker 1: then I got as a jam the crowds what started

450
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,439
Speaker 1: and I watched you a stagecoach this year. Yeah, we

451
00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 1: played the same day I played. We played before you.

452
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,560
Speaker 1: We don't worry. We're playing a PNG times like we're

453
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,359
Speaker 1: playing like four. You're playing at dark whatever, and I

454
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,160
Speaker 1: was watching you play this song and the whole crowd

455
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,240
Speaker 1: was still just they were singing their brains out to

456
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 1: this song. And and that was my first single. I

457
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 1: think that is you know, people ask me buddies that

458
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,679
Speaker 1: are trying to get record deals or whatever, this's like,

459
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 1: you know, what song should I you know, what's the

460
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 1: first thing? And I don't. I don't know the answer

461
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 1: to that. But I just think that if any other

462
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 1: song I've had since then would have been my first,

463
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,879
Speaker 1: it might not have broken me through there like that

464
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 1: one did. And that's scary to think about. But that's um,

465
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 1: like I said, and that's why I love writing songs.

466
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,160
Speaker 1: I've always listened to music, and I don't think I'm

467
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,439
Speaker 1: a fan. I grew up a fan of music and

468
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,199
Speaker 1: I still am. And I think that's why, you know,

469
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 1: try to put myself on their shoes and what would

470
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 1: I want to hear? What would you know? It's not

471
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 1: always like that, but sometimes you gotta think about you know, hey,

472
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm just like him too, So let's let's try to

473
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 1: say some of it's fun, some of us sad. But

474
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,439
Speaker 1: I wonder, let me wonder out loud for a second.

475
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 1: I wonder because you put that song out and I

476
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 1: was like, I like this song and it sounds a

477
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 1: little different. I bet you got some pushback for that song. Yeah,

478
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 1: I bet you did. And now it's just a song

479
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 1: that there was a hit that gets played as what

480
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 1: they call a recurrent and nobody thinks the thing about it.

481
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 1: In just four years, you've seen it change from WHOA,

482
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 1: this is crazy. I bet you got some daddy countries

483
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 1: for that song, which is crazy to think right now,

484
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 1: right yeah, now yeah, But uh, like I said, that's

485
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 1: I guess that's always you know, it's always gonna be

486
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 1: the thing. And you, like you said, man I that's

487
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 1: the one thing about being in positions like we're in

488
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 1: is like your open as if you're opening yourself up

489
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 1: to just get you know, people that have you know,

490
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 1: nothing other to do than just you know, talk trash

491
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. But that's you're gonna get pushed

492
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: back about things. But I think those are always the

493
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 1: things that mean you're you're breaking through and getting getting

494
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: something done. And you know, not everybody's gonna like that's

495
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: the toughest thing for me, is I you know, I

496
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 1: try to treat everybody how I want to be treating.

497
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: But everybody's not gonna like your music. They're not gonna

498
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 1: like every song. You're not even like me. Yeah, it's

499
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 1: like what they don't even know us enough, but it's

500
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 1: they don't know me. But you know, I uh, you

501
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,479
Speaker 1: gotta understand that you're putting your stuff in that position.

502
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I think. We we've got

503
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 1: a lot more people that do like us than don't.

504
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 1: That's to me, the fans, I mean people that that's

505
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: how you gotta focus on. And that let me wonder

506
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: out loud again. I wonder because something I've had to

507
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: do in my life, especially in the last six months

508
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: to a year, is if I get a hundred tweets

509
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: right all zero in on that negative one, yeah, and

510
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 1: I'll be like, everybody hates me and this person just ripping,

511
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: But there are ninety nine positive tweets, and I would

512
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: always focus in. It would make me go, oh, I'm

513
00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 1: so angry or I'm sad, but that we should really

514
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: make an effort to appreciate those ninety nine. I'm not

515
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: That is a great point because you know, that's being honest.

516
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: If if if somebody says that they don't. Then I don't know.

517
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: I guess they've got it figured out. But it's just

518
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: it's tough to see that something that you know you

519
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 1: love to do and you're doing you're you're not out there,

520
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, doing what. I don't know, you're doing the

521
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: right that you're doing great things, and um, trying to

522
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: do the right thing, and people just no matter what,

523
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 1: you're just trying to do, just trying to do things.

524
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 1: And they they're gonna, you know, they're not gonna like it.

525
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: And we gotta focus on the one. We gotta focus

526
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: on the ninety nine I got, Yeah, I gotta focus

527
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: They played this song time about this one. Here. This

528
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: is Craig Campbell. Yeah, Craig singing here. This is the

529
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 1: one that was my second sing Yeah, that was my

530
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: second single, Country Readier, right there, Craig Campbell, great friend

531
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: of mine, great friend of yours. The thing about Craig

532
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 1: is that And the weird thing about this song, I

533
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: believe it was a song as it was climbing he

534
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: gets dropped from his record label, not dropped the record

535
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: of the Folds when he's try climbing hard. Yes, and

536
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: now I remember sitting the meeting with my boss's boss

537
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 1: and we were in New York and Craig Campbell was

538
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: our R radio on the Bridge artist and so I

539
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: love the song and the song is just top ten

540
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: and boom, his record label goes out and we're like,

541
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: what what do we do? So it's like, well, we're

542
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: gonna keep charging with the song even though there's no

543
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: record label and no promotion, and I think you end

544
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: up getting to like six or something and that's h yeah,

545
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: that doesn't even happen. Yeah, we were all flower against,

546
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: like he's got a top to the song and now

547
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: the record label folds and goes away. But but just

548
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: because that's never had, why can't it have? And that's

549
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: what I love about, like, like people that believe in

550
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: a song, believe in music, and you, like I said, man,

551
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: you can't really you don't know how to say thanks

552
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: for this? And I know Craig appreciated that. Probably is

553
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: that when you met is that when y'all met kind

554
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: of then when you've had Yeah, this is when we

555
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: met that, So you wrote this, Yeah, I wrote this one.

556
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: So this is the one that as a writer on

557
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: that scene that happened and a good friend I mean

558
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: me and Craig and he used to play Broadway every

559
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 1: Tuesday night at the stage, Me and him to go

560
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 1: get sushi right on Demember and right there every tunesday

561
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: to be the road from selling merch and uh he'd

562
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: be playing the stage and we'd go down and I'd

563
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: watch him sing all these songs that he's every song,

564
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: every song, and I mean i'd sit there, wouldn't be

565
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: you know that many people in there at the start.

566
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: I mean they have like four hour sets down there.

567
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: By the end it was full. But I'd be there

568
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: from the beginning. Now, I was his buddy, and I

569
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: uh always supported him. So to see you know, him

570
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: record a song like that, knowing that he used to

571
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: get me up. That was my only chance to really

572
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: ever sing in town was during his sets. He'd get

573
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: me up to sing just some nineties country song or something,

574
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: and you know that's uh, that was my moment of

575
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: the week, you know, before I went back on the

576
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: road to sell t shirts. So Craig has always been

577
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: good to me, and I looked for hopefully one day, Um,

578
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: you know we can do some shows together. I know

579
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: he's out there, I think with Luke doing some stuff

580
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: now and like you said, you've you're a fan of

581
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: his and I you know, I just I'd like to

582
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: pull for good people and he's he's one of those.

583
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: If you if your friend as an artist, so back

584
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: when you before you were trying to be an artist

585
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 1: and you wrote something you's always fantastic, would you go

586
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 1: to your friends with it first and say, here's a

587
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: song I think is really good. And is it awkward

588
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: when they don't think it's really good? Yeah? I mean

589
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: that is so so true. I mean yes, it's like,

590
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, I've had, you know, a couple of close friends.

591
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Luke obviously is one of them, but Thomas

592
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: read Or but he's a songwriter himself. So I'm trying

593
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: to think, you know, me and f gl Or boys,

594
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: but it's it's hard to it's it's hard to think

595
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: dirks now, but uh, I had to. You know, when

596
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: you send the artists a song, you want them to

597
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: love it, but it is awkward, like you if if

598
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: they don't say anything back. Because now I'm on the

599
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: other side of it, and I don't know what to

600
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: do when I don't like you don't want to you know,

601
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: what do you say it's so it's because you don't

602
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: I just if you made a song. Let's say I

603
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: write a song. I'm like myself songwriters that are pitching

604
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: me songs. Uh. This is something that gets talked about

605
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: a lot here is that And a lot of people say,

606
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: I believe someone they like in the last last week

607
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: or so, I said they would get songs and they

608
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: just don't reply. And that's kind of the universal. Hey,

609
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really feel in it without saying I wasn't

610
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: really feeling it. That's I'm laughing because I know I've

611
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: done that before, but I don't know anybody listening. They

612
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 1: just didn't reply. Do you remember who it was? Oh

613
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: he was Nicole Guy, and that's somebody I'm looking forward

614
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: to rights. So I know I'm looking Nicole. I want

615
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: to write with you, but we're gonna, I know, we'll

616
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: we'll try to wear that that out, but that is

617
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: very true. I've done that before too, and you know,

618
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: you try to get everybody by to her is what

619
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: it was. It's not Blake, That's what it was. Because

620
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: her and Blake her friends, and she was like, she'll

621
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: send Blake songs and if Blake doesn't reply, that just

622
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: means he wasn't feeling it. That's their universal language. I

623
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: used to do that. To me, I've yeah, I've done that,

624
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: and you're kind of like, well, getn't replied by now,

625
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: She hadn't replied by now. They don't like it, So

626
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: then do you send it to someone else if they

627
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: haven't replied in what? How much time do you give them? Um?

628
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. These days, I don't think

629
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: there is any and I think they just send it

630
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: and if you answer first, and it's good some some people.

631
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: But to me, I mean there were sometimes when uh,

632
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, I remember like roller Coaster when when Luke

633
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: he had that on hold for a long time, and

634
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: there were other artists that I remember, Um, a couple

635
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: of artists you know wanted it or are there A

636
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: and R people wanted it for them maybe and and

637
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: Luke was like, you know, I want this song and

638
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: he ended up recording it, you know, like after you know,

639
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: you never know, I mean when you're holding a song,

640
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: and especially now me knowing as an artist, I mean,

641
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: you're taking a chance on if you don't record it.

642
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: There these writers are missing out on you know, other

643
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: big artists recording the songs food. I mean, that's what

644
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: and and that's why I'm so glad I got to

645
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: do the writing thing, and I still do, but come

646
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: up that way because I want to write all my stuff,

647
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 1: but I don't have to have to. I know, I

648
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: can't write every song because there's too many great songwriters here.

649
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: And if they're gonna send me their best stuff, I mean,

650
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's how you support the interest.

651
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna record that just because of that reason.

652
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: But I think there's so many great songs that you know,

653
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: we're lucky enough to build record outside. I mean, I'd

654
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: like to write them all, but I don't. I'm fortunate

655
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: to have people sending me there's now know, and that's

656
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: a I'm that's a compliment. So let me ask you

657
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: something about your boy Luke. Why is he falling down

658
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: all the time. We're talking about this today, Like he

659
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: jumped on a beer cooler? Just he's dangerous. I don't know, man,

660
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: He's he's worn't too much money and he's getting a

661
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: lot of people depending on him out there, but he's

662
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: got too many people to pay. I know, he's I

663
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 1: don't know, man, He's an entertainer. And that's that's something

664
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: that I don't know, I literally though I think from

665
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: being around it, I'm careful, but I have like anxiety

666
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: about falling off illness all of it. Man, Because again,

667
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: if you're not making money, that people that you have,

668
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: you're paying aren't making money. And that's that's uh. And

669
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: that's something that I never you know, you never think

670
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: about those things when you're chasing the dream that you

671
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: might get to a level where you got a lot

672
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: of people behind you that are helping you on your team.

673
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: And every little thing you do, every decision you make,

674
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: every song you release, every whatever, it matters. But those

675
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: people and there's people depending on you, and it's a

676
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: good thing to have responsibility like that. But I don't

677
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: think some people understand the pressure that that we're you know,

678
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: put in these situations anybody in in the entertainment business

679
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: I'm speaking of. So it's, uh, it's a different thing

680
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: that I don't think some things they really realized that, hey,

681
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: everything um we're doing is affecting all of the people

682
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: on our team. So let's go back to you moving

683
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: to Nashville. So what's the how old are you? Uh,

684
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: what's the thought? Did you always like just put me

685
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: where you are? How old you were? See a lot

686
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: of people, Um, I was, uh leaving college. I left college.

687
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: I mean I had like eighteen nineteen hours. A lot

688
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: of people don't even uh, I don't know that, but

689
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, it was just something that I had to do.

690
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: I was, I was playing shows, and I'd already just go.

691
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: When I got to college, I didn't. I was undeclared major.

692
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: I finally settled in on marketing and and did got

693
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: so close. But it was just it was time and

694
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: I knew that I love music, I knew what I

695
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: wanted to do, and you know, I knew I had

696
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: to get to Nashville. So I moved. I was I

697
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: think twenty three is August twenty three, my dad's birthday

698
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, so uh yeah, August seven, moved to Nashville.

699
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: I remember broke my mom. She was clue, I mean,

700
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: just couldn't understand. She had never really even seen me

701
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: playing bars or anything. Didn't really understand. You know, I

702
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: loved music growing up, but it wasn't She had never

703
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: really seen you know, me play and didn't get it

704
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: like some of my friends did. And there was a

705
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: lot of people that didn't get it, thought I was crazy,

706
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: And those are the people I think that end up

707
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: motivating you. But so I moved to Nashville, and I

708
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: just that was, you know, to write a song. I

709
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: didn't know what I was gonna do. I was in

710
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: contact with Luke. I had his manager carry, which ended

711
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: up she's my manager now we uh, you know that

712
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: he needed a merchandise guy at that time. He we

713
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: met uh he you know, I in college. I was

714
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: in fraternity fraternity Sint Maca, and he was there a

715
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: few years earlier than the same fraternity. Uh. He was

716
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: in a band there while he was in college. And

717
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: they had come back to do like a like do

718
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: a show that weekend, and he just stopped by and

719
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: I knew his name and knew that he was pretty

720
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: popular in the local, you know, coming through Statesboro. So

721
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: he stopped to change his strings guitar strings for that night.

722
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 1: And met him, and he sat down and said, can

723
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: I care if I play all some stuff I wrote

724
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: up in Nashville. And I was like, stuff you wrote?

725
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: You know, I was that's I was singing cover songs.

726
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: And I remember he played a song that he had written,

727
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: and it just blew my mind that he made that

728
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: up and made me feel like that, you know, and

729
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, and that's really that was a

730
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: big moment. And my knowing that, man, some of my

731
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: people are behind there's people that aren't singing this, that

732
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: are behind these songs writing to me and I I

733
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: learned about who the songwriters were. And from then on,

734
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: when I buy an album, I was looking at every

735
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: single cut on the album that I loved that I

736
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: thought maybe you should be on the radio and looking

737
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: at the writers and that, uh, that changed my whole

738
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: view on songwright. And then you know, it was always

739
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: his demos he had sent me. But you know, then

740
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: Eric Church's first album, Dirt Spent, when his first album

741
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: came out, and that was just those are the guy

742
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: They were writing their own songs, and I just I

743
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: don't know that changed me. I said, I wanted to

744
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, I knew I wasn't writing the songs I

745
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: was singing, and I just want to be one one

746
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: of the guys that made people feel the way I did.

747
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: So So two thousand seven, you pack up what would

748
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: you pack up? I mean, not a bed, nothing, my clothes,

749
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: I had a I had a ninety six Chevrolet trucks.

750
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: He seventy one. That's uh, that's truck. I well know.

751
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: That was what I had when I was sixteen. So

752
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: I had just a black Chevallet truck. So you loaded

753
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: downloaded down. It didn't have it was just all in

754
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: the in the bed. Because I had a guy here

755
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: that was from close to my town, um Cliff Corps,

756
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: that that had a a house here that he was

757
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: living in and they had a small extra room and

758
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: he's like, man, there's a there's a bed, but you

759
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,239
Speaker 1: know you're not eve gonna have any room for any

760
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: furnish or anything. There's you can have to put your

761
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: computer in the closet. And but I had to get

762
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: a flat screen TV at that tip, I mean they

763
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: were common, but still that I had to hang it

764
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: on the wall because it wouldn't even fit in front

765
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: of the TV where you walk through. So I was

766
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: never there, you know, I was on the road a lot.

767
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: I got the merchant Knights job, so that was I

768
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: didn't have to pack a whole lot. Man, I never

769
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: when I moved up to I didn't bring a bed

770
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: or anything. It just I lived here for a while

771
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: until I moved, you know, probably uh where I moved

772
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: after a year, and then I lived there for about

773
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: six years. So what you do? You write Monday through

774
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: Thursday and then go out and sell merch for Luke

775
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: on the weekend. You know, I'd like to say I

776
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: had it set up like that, but you know, at first,

777
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: who do you write with? I mean, how do I'm

778
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: a merchant? Ask? Nobody took me serious, and I think

779
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: that had a lot to do with when I was

780
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: first coming out, people weren't really sure if I you know,

781
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: I was like, who's this guy that just got off

782
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: and got off the road selling T shirts? But I think, uh,

783
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how it happened like that.

784
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: But to right, you know, every day you can't do

785
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: that without appointments, and to me, I had to meet people.

786
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: So I had a couple of buddies that I'd write

787
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: with you I might right twice a week if I could.

788
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: But the more I did it, you know, i'd right

789
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: on the road when I could with Michael. But just

790
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: thinking about and just knowing that, man, I'm not there yet.

791
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm not there yet. I mean, I can't wait till

792
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: one day getting the room with some of these guys

793
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: and I can learn, and but I'm glad I didn't.

794
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm glad I had to learn by myself with the

795
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: guys that were on my level. And I think that's

796
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: how you that's how you grow, and it's you know,

797
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: I wrote when I could, but the more I did,

798
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: the more I you know, I think you got the

799
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: feel of it. And it was just a dignity that

800
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: feeling I used to have on stage of entertaining and

801
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: watching people have fun. Now it was coming up with

802
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: that line or what I thought was good and that feeling.

803
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: It just took over. And so songwriting was my new

804
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 1: love at that point. So when you were selling for Luke,

805
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: did he know you wanted to be an artist? And

806
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: is that a weird dynamic because that yeah, I mean

807
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, he knew that I was

808
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: interesting music. He knew I loved music and I wanted

809
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: to be a songwriter. And I think he you know,

810
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: that was his way of saying, hey, well, you know,

811
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: come out here and see what goes on. And kind

812
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: of it wasn't a really long term plan, but it

813
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: was something I went out one weekend and ended up

814
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: being out for like three years. But you know that's

815
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: not what I moved to do. But it gave me

816
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: an opportunity to just be around the business and be

817
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: around radio and see how a new artist, I mean see,

818
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: I had always thought Luke was the big star back

819
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: that that he is now, but it just, you know,

820
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: it took a little bit for everything to catch them,

821
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: but for me to see how he did things, how

822
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: he treated people, uh you know, his team, and it

823
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: just think it helped me when I finally got my chance,

824
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: I felt like I had been around it. I've seen

825
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: the good and the bad of the business. I've seen

826
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: singles uh tap the charts I've seen. I saw me

827
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: and him both loved you know, died thirty seven, and

828
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: it just you know, things like that at going through

829
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: that with a a friend and then finally getting your

830
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: chance like I do now. I mean, I obviously I

831
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: can't thank him enough, but I think, uh, you know,

832
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: things like that make you want to get to a

833
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: point where you can give back and help people, because

834
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: he's certainly you know, put his uh name out there

835
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: and I've tried to do the best I can, write

836
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: the best songs, and um, you know, make a name

837
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: for myself telling about the hat because everybody thinks it

838
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: means Coleswindell and it doesn't. But tell me about the

839
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: hat and why you wear that hat all the time,

840
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: because you're not making money off that hat, are you. No? No,

841
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I'm just obviously a hat

842
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: guy's kind of kind of my thing. And the Georgia

843
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: Southern thing. It just I remember when, um, I went

844
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: out and did some of my first shows when I

845
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: got my band and I was gonna try to start

846
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: getting a record deal. You know, I had a Georgia

847
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: Southern baseball hat, one of the new ones, and I

848
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: was like, I'm just gonna rock this, and we ended

849
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: up out on a big tour and uh just pictures

850
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: on the internet, you know, like coming out and they're like,

851
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: who's this guy wearing the Georgia Georgia Southern people? Uh,

852
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, we're noticing that. I saw a lot of

853
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: alumni that we're like, this guy's repping our college, you

854
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: know when I went to school there for six years

855
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: and our five five years something and you know it's

856
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: where I got my start, and it just kind of

857
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, I like to to be loyal where

858
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: I come from, and it just kind of stuck with me.

859
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: And then I know, I don't know how because it

860
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: looks like a c I understand that, but if you

861
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: look at it is it's obviously, but I can understand it.

862
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: So maybe, look, you've got all kind of cool hats,

863
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: so maybe we can just design me a new one.

864
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't even want that. No. I

865
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: mean a lot of people think it's my yeah initials.

866
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: But if you don't make any money off that Georgia

867
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: Southern hat, no, I just I just think it's something

868
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: that nobody knows that Georgia and I get a chance

869
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: to represent my college where my family we all, I

870
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: mean everybody, I think everybody graduated with me from there,

871
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: but everybody went there, and it's just I don't know,

872
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: I love that school, Arkansas. I don't always wonder I

873
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: got you. Yeah, well, you know, I appreciate. Do you

874
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: sell Georgia's other hats at your shows? Um? Now they

875
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: have them in the bookstore like at the at the college,

876
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: so it's like, I mean, they had a graph of

877
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: the sales of baseball hats before I started wearing it.

878
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: Now and it's pretty it's pretty funny. But to me,

879
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: it's the cost mer booth of the college. I mean,

880
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: I know, but I make I mean, you know, I

881
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: have my own line of merch down there at Georgia

882
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: Southern now, so it's uh, I don't know. I mean,

883
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: they don't do anything like the baseball hats, but it's

884
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: still I mean, just to be tied in when I

885
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: used to be a kid in that bookstore. Now I

886
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: have stuff in there. But it's, uh, it's pretty wild

887
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: to think about that. But they're I know, they're proud

888
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: of me, and I'm I'm proud to represent them. So

889
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad, glad you uh know, proud of where

890
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: you come from. I mean, I know this story. I

891
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: just wanted you to say anything because a lot of

892
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: people don't know. I well, thank you, and this is

893
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people listening, and this is my only way.

894
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: And that's You're funny about people tweeting and stuff like

895
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: when I get you know, a couple of TV moments

896
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: here and there, But when I do, that's like the

897
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: meanest thing. It's like, why is this guy think he

898
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: can just wear his initial And it's like, well, hey,

899
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if that's not the worst thing, I guess

900
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: I can. I can deal with that. But yeah, well

901
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,799
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903
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Speaker 1: way to cook. Alright, cool cold Cole. We have so

927
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 1: many hits. Let's see where do we starts? How about

928
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 1: hope you get lowly tonight? Tell me something about this one.

929
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: This is now what we opened the show with. It

930
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: was my second single to to radio. And this is

931
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: a song that I wrote with Brian and Tyler vif

932
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: J m uh Michael Carter, my producer. We were out.

933
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: I was just out riding before I have my record deal.

934
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: We are oute. It was M F G. L. Thompson

935
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: Square and Luke I think on tour and I was

936
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: out riding and we got together that day one day

937
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: on tour wrote this song and I remember just freaking

938
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: out the melody. We were like, oh my god. We

939
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: uh played it even after the show. We're in there

940
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: playing it on on a little boom box, just the

941
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: work tape of it and never knowing what would happen

942
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: with it. What well it went on. Um, you know,

943
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: I was saying that my songs were I'm trying to

944
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: get a record deal, and I just assumed f g

945
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: L would record that maybe, so I put it on

946
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: my version because I did the demo. I had my

947
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: version on the things we're sending the labels. Well, somehow

948
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: Jason al Dean got a copy of that song and

949
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: it was like wanted it. And I here, I was

950
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: without a record deal and f GL they you know,

951
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: had a huge song out and they were blowing up

952
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: and you know, here I am just trying. I needed

953
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: a song like that. You know, I needed that song.

954
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget. Yeah, I mean and and out.

955
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember, you know he's me and him

956
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: or buddies. Now it's funny. And I ended up touring

957
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: with him a year later to a couple of years later.

958
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: And but you know, to think when a guy you

959
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, love his music, you played every one of

960
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: his songs, coming up, wants a song that you wrote,

961
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: and you know you possibly we're gonna have to say

962
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: I may need to keep this, I mean, and so Carrie,

963
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: you know that that's what she had to They talked

964
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: and he understood, though not I think now. I mean

965
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: that's I have so much respect for for Aldon for

966
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: that and for him recording all these great songs that

967
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: he didn't have to. He could be in the room

968
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: on any of them if he wanted, and he just

969
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: he records great songs. But and not to mention, I mean,

970
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: think about the publishing companies of the other writers and

971
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: stuff like you think they didn't want Jason Aldean to

972
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: have that. I get that, and that's just part of

973
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: the the business that you learn. It's like, man, you

974
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: know when you got and the fact that they let

975
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: me keep it and believe to me enough to say,

976
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: you know what, if you're gonna keep it and you recorded,

977
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: you keep it And and Alden was cool, the writers

978
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: were cool, and it ended up being my second second single.

979
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: How about that you have to make the decision to

980
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: not give superstar Jason Aldina song and you want to

981
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: keep it in don't even have a deal like that's

982
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: ball and your man and I know your manager carry

983
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: and and that says a lot about the faith that

984
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: she had in you yes, and because I mean there's

985
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, when you're having somebody's back and stepping up

986
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: for him, there's gonna be other people in that like

987
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: what do you do? Like are you seriously? What is

988
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: and and you know there's things that you don't think about,

989
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: but you know the way you put that, I mean

990
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: that is that's a big deal. And and things you

991
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,959
Speaker 1: kind of you take about in a while. You said

992
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: no to free money. Yeah, I mean with the risk

993
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: of making more money on the back side, with the

994
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: risk of just having a career. And it's in this

995
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: business you know a lot. You know, it's all about

996
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: the song. You gotta have the right one. I love

997
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: your ball I love them. Oh okay, so I had

998
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: a good story. How about this one here, I don't

999
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: drink to a country song and work their wiskin and

1000
00:42:52,760 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: my last love I'm coming about this riding room. Yeah,

1001
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: this is like, this is crazy. I mean I wrote

1002
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: this song five some years. I mean, you know, I

1003
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: thought this was on my first one I got my

1004
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: publishing deal. This is on my first like uh demo session,

1005
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: like this song was and uh nobody wanted it like

1006
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: it's and I think it's because the names on it.

1007
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: I mean me, Adam Sanders, Josh Martin, I mean three

1008
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: guys that nobody. It's like, I think they listened to

1009
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: the song and they're like, damn, this is a hit.

1010
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: Who is this like some of the hit rup who?

1011
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: And I think, I honestly think that had something to

1012
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: do with you don't know sometimes And I think that's

1013
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: what you work for as a writer. For people when

1014
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: you send them, they know it's gonna be good. I mean,

1015
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: and that's that was one of those songs that you know,

1016
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: had I written that with a big name, I would

1017
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: I bet you somebody would record it, not have never

1018
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 1: had it. But the fact that you know many people

1019
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: had it on hold. I can't remember who all had it,

1020
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: but it never got recorded. That's a weird thing, right,

1021
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: Like someone has your song on hold and then they

1022
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: let it go because you're like, there's a shot. And

1023
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: I think everyone knows every hole doesn't mean cut it.

1024
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: That's that's where you start as the first hole one

1025
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: is someone here and going I wanna put that a

1026
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: hole to make it and I'm gonna put that in

1027
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: the basket, yeah, and go back to it. And that

1028
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: is you know, these days you realize it might not

1029
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: be the biggest deal in the world. But to to

1030
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: a songwriter, I mean, your first hold I remember gosh.

1031
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: I mean that that's the crazy feeling that that that

1032
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: is the first step that, like you said, is for

1033
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: somebody to just be interested enough to say, hold on,

1034
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: don't send this to anybody else, I'm gonna keep it

1035
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: and I'll let you know what. And then you know

1036
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: when they let you know pass so that it did,

1037
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: yeah it did, and I just you know, it's it's crazy.

1038
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: You get your hopes up and at that point, I

1039
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: mean I didn't even have a song record. This was

1040
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: before water Tiwer any of that. I mean, and you know,

1041
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: you get your hopes up and then they're just like,

1042
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: oh man, but that's that's a little bit act like

1043
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: like when it hits and if they passed on it

1044
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: a little bit like and then now it's like, oh man,

1045
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm thankful. Yeah, I was glad I had the song

1046
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: because ye know, I needed that song. And that's what

1047
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, some people you know I had. I was

1048
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: fortunate to get some songs recorded before chilling it in

1049
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: my red to deal, but like that song right there,

1050
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,959
Speaker 1: it really I don't know. The first two did well,

1051
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: but that one was another like chill. It kind of

1052
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: took me to a different level. That's one of the

1053
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 1: biggest moments of the night still in my shows, that song.

1054
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: And I just think it's because it's it's simple country,

1055
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: something that's relatable everybody. You know, there's nobody in there

1056
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: that hapn't kind of somewhat been through. I been through

1057
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: something like that, I feel like, So it's uh, it's

1058
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: it's cool to get to perform that and and try

1059
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 1: to help everybody get over get over them mixits. Here's

1060
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: another one here from from this guy let me see

1061
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: you're lean your head back in your lad Why because

1062
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: the way you said that, I mean this is you know,

1063
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: this was one of those songs that, um it was

1064
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: my fourth single on the first album I I've seen

1065
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: this song live for years and you sometimes you have

1066
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: to make a call. It comes down to, all right,

1067
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: I've got a song, you know, this up tempo that's

1068
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: fun that I may need for my show, that I

1069
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: may need for just to to have, you know, like

1070
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: say it it's one of my singles or maybe a

1071
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: song that's made change the world over here, you know,

1072
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: like I don't think this is a song that's gonna

1073
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: this is no you should be here. But I also

1074
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: knew what people didn't know is I knew I had

1075
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: you should be here after this, and I wanted to

1076
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: go out with something like something fun, and it's just

1077
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: one of those things that you know, this is one

1078
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: of those you were talking about chilling. Yeah, of course

1079
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: I got pushed back on it, and you don't like

1080
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: to see that. I mean, I think I had released

1081
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: something like Whiskey, and I had shown something this side,

1082
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: and here I was going back to the tempo, fun stuff.

1083
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: But to me, I mean seeing that live, it's just

1084
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: like you just have to roll with it. People are

1085
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: gonna say what they say. But then you know, if

1086
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: they can come out and watch my show, watch me

1087
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: play it live and not get it, then it's you know,

1088
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: it's a different deal. But I could see how well

1089
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: the reason I did that because I can see how

1090
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: some people you know, are gonna push back on that.

1091
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: So well, let me play the game changer here gift

1092
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: four number one right at this point for you for

1093
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: an the ones that you have been the artists for

1094
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: a bit artist. So here you come with the game

1095
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: changer at number five. You should be for many reasons.

1096
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: We'll talk about career first. You know this, this song

1097
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: elevated you to the next level. Did you feel that? Absolutely? Absolutely.

1098
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: I remember the debut on your show that morning. I

1099
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: get to tell that story a lot because the day

1100
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 1: it hit radio, I mean, the stories I started seeing

1101
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: on my social media knew. I mean the minute I

1102
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: left your studio, I went and down on my Instagram

1103
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: and look at at a message and I'll never I'll

1104
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: tell you about that at some point, but it's just

1105
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: crazy to think the instant impact and you know how

1106
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: powerful radio is, and that song, you know, that's what

1107
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: I that's what I wanted people to know about. And

1108
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: especially coming off a fun song like uh, you know,

1109
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: let Me See You Grow, It's like, yeah, that's that's

1110
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: the fun side of me. But this is me too.

1111
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that first part of my album

1112
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: showed the fun side of me and that hey, I

1113
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: I you know, I want you all to get to

1114
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: know me, but you know I life ain't all fun,

1115
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: and that that was my chance to release a song

1116
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: and show everybody. Look, I'll you put me in this

1117
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: position to sing songs, write songs, you know, I got

1118
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: every now you know, from time to time, there was

1119
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: a special one that that's gonna you know, relate to

1120
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: everybody and take you to that next level. I think

1121
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: that's you know, the the artists in our format that

1122
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: have lasted for years. I mean, they have those kind

1123
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: of career songs and when people that's a compliment of

1124
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: people like that's the biggest song of your career. You know,

1125
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: who knows I want to have a long career. But

1126
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: if if any song so far, if I wanted it

1127
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: to be a career, it's that one. And that's because

1128
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: of what it means to me and the stories I've heard,

1129
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: and that's you know, uh, the chance to write a

1130
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: song like that is the Nashville dream to me. And

1131
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: that's that's why I'm moved. I hate the circumstances, but

1132
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: for my career and just knowing I mean, the people

1133
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: it's helped, just like you know, when you know I'm

1134
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: with songs, I mean, you you do things every single

1135
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: day that that helped people. I mean, that's just my

1136
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: way of doing is writing a song. And that's it's

1137
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: hard to believe that I you know, I've been you know,

1138
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: able to do this for a living and that song

1139
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: is uh will always be probably the most special song

1140
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: I've ever Right, let me see if I noticed you

1141
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: get the story right, because I know Actuley who you

1142
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: wrote the song one of my favorites. Man. You guys

1143
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: were in Boston, Yeah, outside and you and you wrote

1144
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: it in the bus yep he Uh. Yeah, I was

1145
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: like the opener, opener opener of one of the stadium

1146
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: tours up there. And yeah, we were up there and

1147
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: Goreley was out riding with me, and I remember he

1148
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: had walked in to take, uh a picture of the

1149
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: set up here. Mean, here's a state, you know, for

1150
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: anybody that's never been to a stadium show, as a

1151
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: stage in the middle of a football stadium. And he

1152
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: sent a picture to his daughter and it said with

1153
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: the stadium and the stage and said you should be here,

1154
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: and uh he had that idea. So we're back on

1155
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: the bus and he's like, hey, man, I was inside,

1156
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: I had this idea, sent a picture my daughter, you

1157
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: should be here, and you know here here he was

1158
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: thinking missing his family and and immediately I think about,

1159
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, missing my dad, and uh, it was just

1160
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: one of those things where immediately said Ashley, please let

1161
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: me write this with you, man Plea And he said, well,

1162
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: that's why, that's why I brought it up, you know,

1163
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: and it just kind of it was one of those

1164
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 1: meant to be things. I mean that from the whole

1165
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: time when we started writing it, we I told him

1166
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: it's like, if if we do do it this way,

1167
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: I wanted everybody to be able to relate to it,

1168
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: whether they miss him, if you know, because everybody hasn't

1169
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, might not have have been through lost somebody

1170
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: I hadn't been through that, but um, I wanted to

1171
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: be just everybody to bould relate to it. And I

1172
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: think that's why we We didn't write it just about

1173
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: a loss. We wrote it about the moments, and I

1174
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: think that's what makes that one. You know, there's a

1175
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: lot of songs about loss, but to me, this one

1176
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: is just about those moments where in life. Uh, you know,

1177
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that I'd give anything, you know,

1178
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: you just want you want that one person to call

1179
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: or they just make it that much better and it

1180
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: means uh means that much more so to me. Uh,

1181
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: that song is is something that you know, getting to

1182
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: play every night, seeing the crowd. I mean, it's it's

1183
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: hard to believe that that music is that powerful, but

1184
00:50:53,200 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: it is. How about this one number six and the

1185
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: middle of do You Even Miss? Like you can't even

1186
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: miss you, don't even miss, don't even miss? Another Ashley

1187
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: Gorly is a crowd right here, man Greig. I mean

1188
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: this was written in the middle of another song. That's

1189
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: the cool thing about Yeah. So you know I put

1190
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: out these things EPs called the down Home Sessions. We've

1191
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: done several versions of those, and there was a song

1192
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: on one of them called Kiss that a lot of

1193
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: the fans it's like a fan favorite of my down

1194
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: Home Sessions. Will there's a line in the second verse

1195
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: that says, girl, you left me here with half a

1196
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: beer in the middle of a memory. And when we

1197
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: came up with that line in the room, me Zack

1198
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: and actually start were like, the middle of a memory.

1199
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: We gotta actually said, we gotta write that right now.

1200
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: So that I learned a lesson that day from Gorly.

1201
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: Actually Gorly that we stopped that other song and started

1202
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: writing this one. I mean, just right out of the blue,

1203
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are you doing? Usually I would

1204
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: have just save the title, went back to it, but

1205
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: I learned that day, you don't, you know, we already

1206
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 1: had a good start on the other one, like why

1207
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: not start a new one right here and see what happens?

1208
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: And it just flowed right out and it's it's one

1209
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: of those you know, when there's a story like that

1210
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: behind usually it's a special, special song. And to me,

1211
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: this one was always one of my favorites and just

1212
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: another uh you know song that that's uh, I don't know.

1213
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: It helped me get to where I ends. Six single,

1214
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: guy didn't mess Let's do this is the one. Now.

1215
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: Depending what you may hear this from a year or now,

1216
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: he may have three more songs out, but right now,

1217
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 1: you Dirk Flatlighter, this is there's a story why Dirk

1218
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: is on the song? All right? Like why Dirk? How

1219
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: Dirk came up on this song? Yeah, I mean, uh,

1220
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: you know before the tour hadn't I mean, I had

1221
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. We before I got my record,

1222
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: you know, I was writing songs every day. When we

1223
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: were writing the song, me and Jared Boyer and Matt Bromley,

1224
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: we I mean, in the middle of the song, I

1225
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: was like, man, this sounds like something dirts could sing

1226
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: and I remember us just thinking like this sounds like

1227
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: a you know, let's pitch this the dirts when we

1228
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: get done with it. Well, I wasn't really I knew him,

1229
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: but I wasn't close enough with him to sending the song.

1230
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know if he ever even heard it.

1231
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: And uh, years later, I'm sure obviously the years later, Uh,

1232
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: I told him the story and he had, you know,

1233
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: text me. He was a fan of chilling it and

1234
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: some stuff, and I told him. I was like, man,

1235
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: there's this song that I wrote, uh for you with

1236
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: with some guys a couple of years ago, but I

1237
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: don't think you've heard and he said, sended. I did,

1238
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: and uh, he wrote back and said he loved He's like, man,

1239
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: that sounds like a smash, uh, you know. And I'll

1240
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: just joke. I said, well, man, if I ever recorded you,

1241
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: you should record it with me. And it was just

1242
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: kind of a running joke, you know, we'd see each

1243
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: other and if he brought it up, I love, But

1244
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: that's just dirts. He always remembers something that that you associated.

1245
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: He's like, man, that Flatliner song always, you know, I

1246
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: love that song, and it just he always brought that

1247
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: up and and I didn't never think he was serious.

1248
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: So when we went the album to record the album, um,

1249
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: we asked him and he was, yeah, you don't want

1250
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: to put somebody on that spot. I mean, I literally

1251
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: it was one of those I'm the kind of person

1252
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: I like, you sure you want to? I was like,

1253
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: please tell him. If he doesn't want to, his fine,

1254
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: because I I just don't like to be put on

1255
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: the spot like that. And and to know that's a

1256
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: he's got his own career, and you know, I understand

1257
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: if if that's not something that he wanted to do,

1258
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: but I think he knew how much it means or

1259
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 1: knows how much it means to me. And uh now

1260
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: and and I'm I'm glad we get to perform it.

1261
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't plan on being on tour, but

1262
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: the fact that the tour worked out, I mean, I

1263
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: think that had something to do with it being you know,

1264
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: the single and just to to make everything come full

1265
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: circle me for me, those college shows I talked about earlier.

1266
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: I mean, Dirk Spentley's first album, I mean, Settled for

1267
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: a Slowdown by him is one of my favorite songs ever,

1268
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: I think, and now I'm out here touring with him

1269
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: and getting to learn and talk about you know, I've

1270
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: been on some big tours, great tours, but he's just

1271
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: he's just the most real dude man. And it's it's, uh,

1272
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to find a guy that's a superstar

1273
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: at that more down to earth and I think, you know,

1274
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: he's just a good person to have in our format

1275
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: for for every new artist to look up to me, everybody.

1276
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just he's one of those good dudes.

1277
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: And he's a grinder. Not on grinder, but he is

1278
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: a grinder. He might be on grinder. How Yeah, he's

1279
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: off his phone. I saw he's had enough of it.

1280
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 1: He's been working hard. So he's working. He's been around

1281
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: man a long time, and that's what those people. Yes,

1282
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: and it's been that and he'll talk about it. He's

1283
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: not scared to talk about mistakes he's made and where

1284
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: I went wrong. And I mean we're you know, I've

1285
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: only flown with him a couple of times, but he's

1286
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: always back there trying to tell me, you know, hey,

1287
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, do that, make sure you're doing the right thing.

1288
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: Don't let this bother you, Like just Swstummer, do you

1289
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: let him fly you because I won't get this here airplane,

1290
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, he uh, he's got you know,

1291
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: he can fly. And then also Austin another pilot this

1292
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: with him, but we usually just hang and I let them.

1293
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't let him fly. We'll just hangs.

1294
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: So I don't. I'm not a fan of him either,

1295
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: but man, the traveling just you know, it's been cool

1296
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: just getting to to do it a couple of times.

1297
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: But that's you know, I'm I'm good with riding the

1298
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: bus too. I'm I'm lucky enough to to have a bus,

1299
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna stick stick with that for a while.

1300
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: Let me play a couple more songs here, because you're

1301
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: you're in the fly like this. They have seven songs

1302
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 1: for four years. How about this one here? I wrote

1303
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: this way. I made some money off this. This is

1304
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: that's crazy, the thing that that's probably, I mean, I

1305
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: sold more than any song I've written. And then I

1306
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: can't explain that. Do you still get check sport this song?

1307
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I don't, I haven't, I don't know,

1308
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: I haven't asked specifically, but probably I mean probably with that, yeah,

1309
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: I mean with the that the remix. I mean, it

1310
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: was all kind of I've never really had a song

1311
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: that had any kind of crossover artists on it or anything,

1312
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: so it was it was a big song. But that just,

1313
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, that shows you out those songs and I

1314
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: needed those because, you know, for the first three or

1315
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: four years, and I had while I was building up

1316
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: to these seven singles, only had a hit or two.

1317
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: And there I was getting to play roller Coaster, get

1318
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: me some of that, and this is how we roll

1319
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: in my set, and I'm you know, big songs, uh

1320
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: and and uh you know that. I just remember me

1321
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: and Brian starting that song and and Tyler coming in

1322
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: and they was the shooting bullets at the moonline. Luke

1323
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: has said it in his show, and and Brian asked,

1324
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: He's like, you think we should add I was like, wow,

1325
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: I ask him. I don't think he's gonna want to

1326
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: come over here and write, but I'll ask him. And

1327
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: he came over and listened to just a little bit

1328
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: we had, and we finished it and they got to

1329
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: sing it and I didn't get to sing it. I

1330
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: just got the song right and credit. So I've been

1331
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: introducing myself to Jason's Ruler ever since. Like, hey man,

1332
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm I wrote that song too with them, but we'll

1333
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: talk about that later. I'm the guy with my initials

1334
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: on my hat. You're you're the guy. Yeah, you see

1335
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: us hat. I play one more. We'll go back in

1336
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: time a little bit, being luke. Wow, this is the

1337
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: one I didn't want to give up. This is this

1338
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: is the song that made me keep chilling it. It

1339
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: was so huge to have cuts on this album for

1340
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: I can't remember the title of this album, but I

1341
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: mean this was when roller Coaster was on UM and

1342
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: and a couple more this one obviously, but I don't know.

1343
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: It's just like to have three cuts on the album

1344
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: that big was so huge for me. And that was

1345
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: right when people are like, I mean, this guy is

1346
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: the next I mean, he's got three songs on this

1347
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: big album. Blah blah blah. You know, so this is Uh,

1348
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: it changed everything for me. I said it, all right, well,

1349
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: this is the song I loved. I mean, and I

1350
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: just always hoped to be a single. But that was fine.

1351
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: I just knew that when I gave that, when I said, alarright,

1352
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna do the artist thing, uh, there's gotta

1353
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: be a point where I keep a song. The next

1354
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: song I write that I think I love like that,

1355
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: I have to keep it. I mean, there's no there's

1356
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: no way if I'm gonna con seriously be be the

1357
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: artist I want to be because I know how important

1358
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: a song is. And you know, that was the song

1359
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: I loved. And then two months later, me and Shane

1360
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: miner Uh wrote Chilling It, and that's when I knew,

1361
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: I literally knew. I said, this is what I want

1362
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: my first single to be. I was like, I don't

1363
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: know what we gotta do, but this is what this

1364
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: is it. This is how I want the world to

1365
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: hear me right her first song. Let's get their attention

1366
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: right here, chilling and that was that's what we went with.

1367
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: Look at you. You haven't missed yet, I know, yeah,

1368
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: And that's what there's people it's I know that's I'm

1369
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: really stick. I don't want that pressure on me my team.

1370
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: I don't you know that every song is not a

1371
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: number one. I mean I think there's you know, some

1372
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: songs that I'm gonna get the chance to say things

1373
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: I want to that might not be a number one

1374
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: radio hit, but it's gonna impact people. I mean, there's

1375
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: a song that it's on my current album. Um you

1376
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: know that it's called Remember Boys that Andrew Dorff and

1377
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: Brad Tirsty from Old Dominion they wrote not that song.

1378
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: I get to play that live every night. And it's

1379
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: just songs like that that. It's like, man, you know,

1380
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: that's why I record songs I didn't write because I

1381
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: can't write that. I didn't write it, but I wish

1382
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: I had. I wish I would have written it. And

1383
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: I think being an artist, you you're fortunate. You get to,

1384
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, take people's work and and uh, you know,

1385
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: put your spin on it, and that's it stays around.

1386
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean that those kind of songs really touch people.

1387
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: And I think you know it's coming off flatliner. I mean,

1388
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a big decision what's next. And you know,

1389
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: so if I give you a couple of titles like

1390
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: Stay Downtown or Broke Down, I wish you would listen

1391
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: and let me know over the next couple of weeks

1392
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: what you think. I don't have no idea. I'm not

1393
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: gonna listen. You're just gonna if you see, if you

1394
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: play it, we'll see, we'll see. I'm like, if I

1395
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: play it. It's like the email when you said, OK, let'

1396
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: don't let's don't listen. Let's just, uh, we'll see you.

1397
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: I don't listen to anybody's I don't like. I don't.

1398
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: I don't blame you, because you know what, I wouldn't

1399
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: want that kind of having to respond. Y'all just put

1400
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: what you want out and if it's not universal, absolutely

1401
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: then and I've like, I understand, I really did, like,

1402
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't blame you. I'm friendly with Stapleton because I

1403
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: was having Chris out before even Traveler came out. So

1404
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: Chris has always been really loyal to me because I was.

1405
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: I loved him early of course, because it's like, hey,

1406
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: I want to see you my new album. I haven't

1407
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: told Chris no. I was like, dude, and that was

1408
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: the hardest thing to do because I love that I'll

1409
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: take it. Yeah, I was like, I can't take it.

1410
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: Earlier I can't take but I just feel like if

1411
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: I can be like my listeners and here the day

1412
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: it comes out, then I'm still that is well. I

1413
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: just blew my mind. I mean, why why wouldn't you

1414
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: do that? That's the I want to experience it like

1415
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: my people experience, and that is I think that's something

1416
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: that wow, I haven't thought about. But like in our

1417
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: format or just our business, I mean, we I hear

1418
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: a song, you know, and I'm tired by the time

1419
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: anybody else, even here's I know it so well that

1420
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: I can't even feel what they're like. I don't know

1421
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: what that first time feeling that's the best. I mean,

1422
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: the first time you hear a song, first time you

1423
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: realize I love this song. I mean, you can't go

1424
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: back to that, like once you've heard it a hundred times,

1425
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: you can't go back to that. So that is really

1426
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: cool that that But that's how you stay in touch

1427
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: with your listeners, your fans. I mean, you're one of them,

1428
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: and that's what you know. You do that. I try

1429
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: to do the same thing on stage. I want them

1430
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: to know that I'm I'm just like them. I just

1431
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: get the stand ups here for you know, forty five

1432
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: minutes and night, however long it is. I appreciate you

1433
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: coming by. Are you this has been? This is awesome.

1434
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: I will do and I want I'll talk about all

1435
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: the great things you did, like please, let's I want

1436
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: to be I'm gonna be a part of something soon,

1437
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: So just let me know. Man, I'm you do a lot,

1438
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: and I wanna you know, I've been fortunate too, so

1439
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: I wanna want to help how account I know it's

1440
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: about it's about them, but we're we're very fortunate, and

1441
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: I know I want to say congrats to you also

1442
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: own there for for the induction and the whole of

1443
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: that's and you don't want to talk about, but it's

1444
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: to me that's I do not want to talk about.

1445
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: But absolutely I just want you to know, I, uh,

1446
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: that's that's huge, and congrats and uh you deserve it.

1447
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: Thanks for all the good you do. I appreciate that.

1448
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: All right. Colsonondella is here, and depending when you hear

1449
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: this uh flat liners that's out or his next did

1450
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: people here nineteen, he may have this new hip hop

1451
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: song with me goes that's all over cout Okay, you

1452
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: never know. Well, we got this interview the way and

1453
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: Haley Steinfeldt the new colsonon Deale with Hailey Steinfeld's out

1454
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: you picked out? All right? So what episode is my

1455
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: sixties seven? Wrapping up sixty seven? Good to see you

1456
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: but always good to see thank you, and we will

1457
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 1: h see you next time. Here on the Bobbycast. Thanks

1458
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:51,959
Speaker 1: to Express Pros and thanks to Oh Blue Apron. Oh yeah,

1459
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,439
Speaker 1: all right, thank you have for see you next time.