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Speaker 1: Joe's One Show. It's gonna be a beautiful day here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna break down a lot of baseball news, some
Speaker 1: injuries to get to, some bets, a little up and down.
Speaker 1: But Joe, you're a Toronto guy. I'm surprised you made
Speaker 1: the show today. I would have thought for sure they'd
Speaker 1: be calling you up because everybody got hurt yesterday for
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays.
Speaker 2: That was a tough game to watch in San Francisco,
Speaker 2: and even leading up to it, all the reports about
Speaker 2: Ricky Tiedeman, who at this point, I don't know what
Speaker 2: to even make him. I don't know if he's it
Speaker 2: looks like Nate Pierson two point zero, but it's it's
Speaker 2: tough being in Toronto. It's good to take a break
Speaker 2: here and chat with you. Joe two. Joe's one show.
Speaker 2: We should do the show in Italian Dei Giuseppi today
Speaker 2: on this show.
Speaker 1: Hey, Okasidy, Joe, what are you doing so? But seriously,
Speaker 1: it's great to you able to step in here. Welsh
Speaker 1: going away for a couple of days, getting a little
Speaker 1: time with the family there, So Arico joining us today
Speaker 1: and tomorrow. Joe. Let's just get right to the headlines.
Speaker 1: Let's jump right into a baby and let's start with
Speaker 1: the Dodgers' rotation, which was in the headlines yesterday here
Speaker 1: in the program, and we got to bring it back.
Speaker 1: I was betting, literally and figuratively on Gavin Stone kind
Speaker 1: of stopping the bleeding yesterday for the Dodgers. He did not.
Speaker 1: He struggled. It was not a good start for him.
Speaker 1: Four runs, nine hits, and four and two thirds innings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was against the Phillies, but I don't want to
Speaker 1: give him too big of a pass. But that's not
Speaker 1: the only story here, because Dave Roberts told everybody yesterday
Speaker 1: that Walker Buehler is working on his mechanics, and my god,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to get a mechanic to figure him
Speaker 1: out because it has been brutal this year for him.
Speaker 1: And then on top of all of that, you get
Speaker 1: Bobby Miller getting sent down, but nobody knows to where
Speaker 1: or what's going on there. And I get it. We're
Speaker 1: close to the All Star break, so sending Bobby Miller
Speaker 1: makes sense somewhere to work on some things during the break.
Speaker 1: But Joe, the Dodgers' rotation is coming apart at the
Speaker 1: seams here from a fantasy perspective, it's rough and Tyler
Speaker 1: glassnow on the il yesterday. So what do you do
Speaker 1: here right now if you're the Dodgers, because they got
Speaker 1: to do something. I know it's the break, but they
Speaker 1: got to come out with the with the plan here
Speaker 1: after the All Star Game.
Speaker 2: If you just look at their rotation on Fangrafts on
Speaker 2: the roster resource page, James Paxton is currently listed as
Speaker 2: the Ace. So yeah, I would say that they're probably
Speaker 2: gonna be probably gonna need to be doing at all,
Speaker 2: probably gonna need to be doing a couple of things now.
Speaker 2: I don't think Glass now is too serious. I think
Speaker 2: that's probably just they're taking a chance to use the
Speaker 2: All Star break as a bit of an extended rest
Speaker 2: for him. Bobby Miller, I'm actually a little bit encouraged
Speaker 2: by the fact that they didn't stick him back on
Speaker 2: the injured list, that he went down to the miners,
Speaker 2: which tells you that he just needs to work on
Speaker 2: a couple things as opposed to there's a foe arm
Speaker 2: problem or something. So I think generally speaking, they're still
Speaker 2: gonna be okay. But this feels like it's got Garrett
Speaker 2: Crochet written all over it, doesn't It.
Speaker 1: A certainly certainly possible. I think that I still say this,
Speaker 1: and I know Shures are talked about it. Yesterday there
Speaker 1: were some quotes going around where he was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to wait my not trade, blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: Like that's like, okay, well, I guess that's the I
Speaker 1: don't want to wait my no trade unless it's somewhere
Speaker 1: I really want to go. And I still think the
Speaker 1: Dodgers are gonna come knock, and I think they're gonna say, look,
Speaker 1: we're in this thing. Next year, you get Otani back
Speaker 1: in this rotation, You got glass now Otani Yamamoto that
Speaker 1: you can live with. You need a stopgap. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they have the bullets in the chamber or
Speaker 1: want to move those prospects for Crochet, that it's gonna take.
Speaker 1: And I think they're gonna get a hole for Crochet
Speaker 1: because he is the quote unquote guy and he's controllable. Now,
Speaker 1: I think it's a smart move. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I would like to see them do that. But man oh, man, like,
Speaker 1: maybe it is a tie on. Maybe it is a
Speaker 1: less interesting guy or a Sure's or a veteran guy
Speaker 1: that Look, it's not like he's not familiar. He had
Speaker 1: a good time in LA he talked about that. Everything was,
Speaker 1: you know, fantastic there. But man oh, man, like, it
Speaker 1: is brutal for the Dodgers right now. I don't remember,
Speaker 1: do you remember, Joe recently a team's rotation, especially one
Speaker 1: like this high in public in terms of like what
Speaker 1: we think of the Dodgers being just absolutely obliterated one
Speaker 1: through five basically the.
Speaker 2: Only one that comes to mind, and it's not the
Speaker 2: same level, but it's the Rays from the last couple
Speaker 2: of years with McClanahan and Springs and Rasmussen. That's kind
Speaker 2: of closed. But I don't know if.
Speaker 1: Then Bradley got hurt too, Yeah, that's a good one. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's a good one.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if it's on the same level
Speaker 2: as the Dodgers right now.
Speaker 1: Not probably not on the same level of expectations, but
Speaker 1: from our fantasy perspective, certainly one that people were looking at,
Speaker 1: but brutal. Oh thank god for good things. Marcello zun
Speaker 1: has been one of them. He's gonna be in the
Speaker 1: home run Derby. He hit another home run thirty three
Speaker 1: years old. He's got twenty four bombs right now. He
Speaker 1: had a great season last year. The slash is two
Speaker 1: ninety six, three seventy four, five sixty eight, fifty five
Speaker 1: runs scored, seventy five ribies. What do you account for
Speaker 1: this Marcelo Zuna renaissance here in his thirties, because this
Speaker 1: is usually the time where player goes in the opposite direction.
Speaker 1: But ozooa last year a fantastic season. I thought he regressed.
Speaker 1: He did not. He's been even better than last year
Speaker 1: in some regards. So what do you make of this
Speaker 1: Ozuna renaissance at this age?
Speaker 2: It's hard to know what to make of it because
Speaker 2: a lot of the Braves have actually struggled this season
Speaker 2: quite a bit, and then you got Marcelo Zuna, who
Speaker 2: a lot of people were fading coming into the season.
Speaker 2: The utility only the age factor, and we're close to
Speaker 2: a fifty home run pace. He might have one hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty ribies. It's really hard to say, Like his
Speaker 2: babbup is a bit higher than usual, which might be
Speaker 2: helping out the batting average, but I think it's just
Speaker 2: the power has always been there and this maybe is
Speaker 2: maybe the last time we're going to see it to
Speaker 2: this degree. As you said, he's thirty three, he's going
Speaker 2: to be thirty four years old later this season, So
Speaker 2: not sure how many more than we can expect, and
Speaker 2: not really sure what exactly to attribute it to, but
Speaker 2: pretty pretty excellent stuff from Ozuna overall. It's just there's
Speaker 2: nothing really in the numbers to say like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you should have looked before the season and expected this
Speaker 2: to happen again. It's just one of those baseball things
Speaker 2: that's really hard to put your finger on.
Speaker 1: It's like he's becoming Nelson Cruz or something like before
Speaker 1: our eyes, and I feel like that was the same conversation, right.
Speaker 1: Cruz was kind of a late bloomer, had a couple
Speaker 1: of good years in his late twenties into his early thirties,
Speaker 1: we're like, Okay, this is gonna end, and then play
Speaker 1: until he was forty, and he was still incredibly productive.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's that DH pot. I don't know. Whatever it is,
Speaker 1: it's working for Rozuna. He'll be interesting to watch there too.
Speaker 1: Larry's got a question. I think Larry actually messaged me
Speaker 1: this morning and I gave him an answer, but he must
Speaker 1: not have liked that answer, so he wants a different
Speaker 1: Joe to answer it. Larry wants to know Xander or
Speaker 1: Jimenez rest of season. I won't tell you my answer, Rico.
Speaker 1: I want to see what you say.
Speaker 2: I have to say without digging in a lot, I
Speaker 2: have to go with Jimenez, the guy who's healthy and
Speaker 2: has been pretty solid to this point. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: with boguards once he comes back, what's the level of
Speaker 2: production gonna look like. I think Jimenez is the safer
Speaker 2: play in an elite offense. They're both in great lineups,
Speaker 2: but I think Jimenez is also double eligible, second and
Speaker 2: short in a lot of cases, so I think that
Speaker 2: he is overall, I think a safer play. But what
Speaker 2: are your thoughts, Joe.
Speaker 1: I went with Xander Brogart just the better player last
Speaker 1: year in the second half, at a great second half
Speaker 1: after struggling. He did have a slow start, but really
Speaker 1: was putting things together right before he got hurt. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with the track record of of Xander Bogart's.
Speaker 1: But I don't think Amenez is like the wrong answer.
Speaker 1: I do agree depending on your roster, the safer one probably,
Speaker 1: so that's the way I would go. So there you go. There,
Speaker 1: you got two joes now giving you different opinions. Go
Speaker 1: make your decision. Larry framber Valdez, remember when Welsh wanted
Speaker 1: to get rid of him and I said, no, it's
Speaker 1: a bad idea. Well, guess what Welsh isn't here. I
Speaker 1: warned you, Welsh, I warned you, and I could say
Speaker 1: that now and he's not around ten strikeouts for Frambury.
Speaker 1: Yesterday it was against the Marlins, but still Tobias Myers
Speaker 1: eight scoreless, hitting six strikeouts. This twenty five year old
Speaker 1: is now at a three to one three era a
Speaker 1: one point one to three whip sixty two strikeouts to
Speaker 1: twenty walks in seventy two winnings. So the strikeout rate
Speaker 1: isn't quite elite, But Myers is a guy I don't
Speaker 1: think we've talked about on this show all year long, Joe,
Speaker 1: this rotation seems a little iffy for me. For the
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers, the rest of season, teams held together with
Speaker 1: kind of you know, magic and strings and illusions. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it's held together with right now, barely
Speaker 1: Freddy Parlton and some other things. What do you make
Speaker 1: of Myerson? Do you think this is a guy that
Speaker 1: you can count on the rest of the season, because
Speaker 1: so far it's been pretty good for him.
Speaker 2: It has been pretty good. I think that he has
Speaker 2: been a bit lucky two sixty two Babbitt. He's stranding
Speaker 2: nearly eighty five percent of base runners. Not a ton
Speaker 2: of strikeouts there. I think if you're in a shallow league,
Speaker 2: he's a little risky. Yeah, Eddie's comment here is kind
Speaker 2: of where I'm going as well. I think he's good,
Speaker 2: and I think if you're playing in those deep fifteen
Speaker 2: team leagues NL only, then he's definitely viable. Once you're
Speaker 2: talking like standard size ten and twelve teamers, I think
Speaker 2: he's more of a streamer than somebody that's like I
Speaker 2: got to get him on my roster type of player.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also go back to that Xander conversation. I
Speaker 1: just double checked too, because I thought Xander qualified it
Speaker 1: both also, so eligibility shouldn't be your tiebreaker safety with him, Nez,
Speaker 1: that's fair. Upside with Xander Bogarts, that's fair too. I
Speaker 1: don't think you'n go wrong. Honestly, trade one of them,
Speaker 1: like trade whoever's gonna bring you back the most, because
Speaker 1: if you don't have a room for both, that's what
Speaker 1: you want to do. Uh. Julia Rodriguez big day yesterday
Speaker 1: we talked about right, yay, we were all excited or
Speaker 1: two days ago, I should say now, because we talked
Speaker 1: about it yesterday. Four for four with the Homer Weile.
Speaker 1: He struck out four times on Wednesday. So there you go.
Speaker 1: The ups and downs of Julie Rodriguez continue. Let's have
Speaker 1: a little fun. Paul Seawald actually saved the game yesterday.
Speaker 1: That's a good time. Ezekiel Tovar actually got some hits,
Speaker 1: two of them, and Max Meyer gave up one run
Speaker 1: in six innings for Triple A yesterday. So Joe, it
Speaker 1: looks like six innings were stretching Max Meyer back out.
Speaker 1: Are we gonna see him when we come back from
Speaker 1: the All Star break? I say, yes, what say you?
Speaker 2: We should have seen him a while ago, so I
Speaker 2: think that yes, he probably will be up after the
Speaker 2: All Star break. The guys that they're trotting out there.
Speaker 2: You know, we do this all the time, Joe. We
Speaker 2: look at baseball names all the time, and sometimes I
Speaker 2: look at a Marlin starting pitcher It's like, who is
Speaker 2: this guy? Again? Max Meyer was really really great when
Speaker 2: he was up earlier in the season, and he's got
Speaker 2: a great pedigree, great minor league pedigree, high strikeout upside.
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're doing, I really don't. I
Speaker 2: think the team is just a huge mess this season.
Speaker 2: The general manager came out at the end of April
Speaker 2: and said they were throwing in the towel for the year.
Speaker 2: So I don't know exactly what to expect her how
Speaker 2: much we can trust them. But he should be up
Speaker 2: if you have room to stash him, if you've a
Speaker 2: minor league spot or something. I think the talent is
Speaker 2: definitely there that it's worthwhile. But if they waited another
Speaker 2: month after the All Star break, I wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 2: by that either just based on how things have gone.
Speaker 1: Kim Ing left and everything just reverted back. It felt
Speaker 1: like she came in there, cleaned up the mess, made
Speaker 1: them respectable, made them a playoff team. I mean, hello,
Speaker 1: made the Marlins a playoff team. I wish the Mets
Speaker 1: were a playoff team once in a while. And Lee,
Speaker 1: I did see her comment about Brandon Nimols. Well maybe
Speaker 1: we'll get to talk with him a second. But seriously,
Speaker 1: like then they she wanted more power, They told her no,
Speaker 1: she left, and guess what, We're right back to being
Speaker 1: the Marlins again. I don't understand this at all, and
Speaker 1: it is laughable. I agree with you that Max Meyer
Speaker 1: is where he is, like as if somehow the games
Speaker 1: were gonna matter more for them in September than they
Speaker 1: would in April in May, like let this kid pitch.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they were doing. It's crazy. I
Speaker 1: think of all the time wasted it would rather just
Speaker 1: give him one hundred and fifteen innings or whatever it
Speaker 1: is at the major league level and just shut him
Speaker 1: down at the end of the year when those games
Speaker 1: really don't matter for you. At least you might have
Speaker 1: been able to sell to your fan base. Hey, look,
Speaker 1: we're being competitive. We're doing some stuff here just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Let's get to the rookie. Lookie, good things there, Joey
Speaker 1: low Perfido went Yard, Ben Rice, Alex Vverdugo in Wednesday's lineup.
Speaker 1: A little bit of a switch there. Rice went from
Speaker 1: leadoff to cleanup. I like Rice more as a leadoff
Speaker 1: guy for the Yankees. I think they need that OBP
Speaker 1: as that engine. He's got a very high career OBP
Speaker 1: in the minor leagues. I don't like this move. What
Speaker 1: do you think about this?
Speaker 2: It's not my favorite. I don't know why Alex like
Speaker 2: what is Alex Vdugo?
Speaker 1: Dad?
Speaker 2: It's almost insulting to Soto and Judge to have to
Speaker 2: do go in front of him. Ben Rice has been great.
Speaker 2: You know he's getting on. For fantasy point of view,
Speaker 2: you got a catcher eligible guy who's not catching, who's
Speaker 2: hitting in front of those two guys. It's like he's
Speaker 2: probably a top ten catcher at that point. Now if
Speaker 2: he's behind them, that's still really beautiful for fantasy purposes.
Speaker 2: Maybe you exchange a few runs for Ribby's. But I
Speaker 2: don't really understand it. I don't know what they're doing
Speaker 2: there with Dugo. He's not been good for a while.
Speaker 2: I know that there was a good stretch earlier in
Speaker 2: the season, but I'm just really confused by it. I'm
Speaker 2: really confused by it.
Speaker 1: I don't get it at all. I know Rice has
Speaker 1: been swinging a hot power bat, but the whole point
Speaker 1: with Rice is you want him at the top of
Speaker 1: the order, protected by the big boys, where he's gonna
Speaker 1: see fastballs, and you want the OBP so he's there.
Speaker 1: So these guys aren't hitting solo home runs and Ary
Speaker 1: Judges is hitting two and three run home runs. That's
Speaker 1: what you want. So this is stupid, stupid by the Yankees.
Speaker 1: Mason Miller another rookie. Lookie here, fifteenth save of the year.
Speaker 1: It's no small feet considering get pitches for the A's cold.
Speaker 1: Keith stays hot. We talked about him all day yesterday.
Speaker 1: If you missed it, go back and watch or just
Speaker 1: watch the Waiver Wire video which is on Fantasy pros MLB.
Speaker 1: Another good day for him. He had a triple and
Speaker 1: an RBI yesterday. Brooks Lee another homer, another one of
Speaker 1: our guys too. We talked about yesterday and we've been
Speaker 1: talking about for weeks before he got called up, so
Speaker 1: hopefully you were head of the curve there. So another
Speaker 1: good day for the rookies, which is nice considering April
Speaker 1: and may not great. June a little better, July starting
Speaker 1: to come together for the rookies, a little bit. Three
Speaker 1: up and three down. Michael King was really good. He
Speaker 1: struck out nine guys, but he still lost and I
Speaker 1: made money. Yay, let's go Mariners. Somehow that happened. I
Speaker 1: got lucky on that one. Nick Pavetta ten strikeouts of
Speaker 1: his own in six and two thirds against the A's.
Speaker 1: More on the a's to come here as we get
Speaker 1: to the bets and showed to Imanaga six strikeouts, six
Speaker 1: shoutout innings against the Orioles Inmanaga. That was a tough
Speaker 1: contest for him on paper, a real test. What'd you
Speaker 1: think of how he came out after you know, some
Speaker 1: spotty performances over the last five or six starts for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a little bit up and down, which
Speaker 2: I think we had to kind of expect. You know,
Speaker 2: the term aggression gets thrown around, but you're just not
Speaker 2: gonna carry like a sub one and a half sub
Speaker 2: to era for the whole season. So I think those
Speaker 2: starts where he did get knocked around a little bit
Speaker 2: were thosequote unquote regression games fewer than three earned runs
Speaker 2: and fifteen out of seventeen starts this season. It's just
Speaker 2: those two blow ups were just so ugly. It was
Speaker 2: like ten and seven earned runs. But I think he's
Speaker 2: a solid twenty percent strike up minus walk guy. I
Speaker 2: think he's roughly a three era that the things that
Speaker 2: you got to think about. He's been a lot better
Speaker 2: away from home, and he is giving up quite a
Speaker 2: few barrels, and there will probably be a few more
Speaker 2: home runs allowed than average, but it's kind of a
Speaker 2: minor concern. I think Showeda is really really excellent.
Speaker 1: It's funny Whips was bringing up a thing about Meyer
Speaker 1: in the chat about service time manipulation. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's that because he was already up before he got hurt.
Speaker 1: So I think they that ship has sailed with him.
Speaker 2: Is that I believe Max Meyer? Is that Max Meer?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what they were talking about there.
Speaker 1: It could be wrong, but I think that's what they
Speaker 1: were talking about. And Waukee Penguin definitely the core of
Speaker 1: the day shocking that a woman came in and took
Speaker 1: care of all the problems. Walk. That's why y're around,
Speaker 1: That's why I pushed for you to be here with
Speaker 1: us at Fantasy Pros full time so hard. So can
Speaker 1: you see all the mess you had to clean up?
Speaker 1: I mean, we needed Wonky Penguin around these parts. I
Speaker 1: hope you're feeling well too, Wonky. I haven't talked couple
Speaker 1: of days. Hope you're doing okay. Three down Logan Web
Speaker 1: was not okay. Seven runs, five innings, eight hits and
Speaker 1: a walk only four strikeouts. A weird year for Logan Web.
Speaker 1: I feel like every time you think it's safe, then
Speaker 1: something happens and it's bad. Frankie Montas one of the
Speaker 1: guys I wanted to trade two weeks ago because he
Speaker 1: had a couple of good starts in a row. Well,
Speaker 1: five earned runs, eight hits yesterday against the Rockies Boom
Speaker 1: and Charlie more than four runs, five strikeouts, and six
Speaker 1: and a third not great. Let's get to the injury news. Arico.
Speaker 1: We had Jordan Alvarez removed yesterday with a right hip tightness. Now,
Speaker 1: I didn't see any updates yet on this one. This
Speaker 1: doesn't sound good to me. Do we think this is
Speaker 1: just precautionary it seems like it was, Or should we
Speaker 1: be a little bit panicked here as we're getting closer
Speaker 1: to the break.
Speaker 2: I don't love it. The thing that drives me insane.
Speaker 2: It happened stealing a base? What are we doing? What
Speaker 2: are we doing? Yordat? You can hit forty five plus
Speaker 2: home runs. I don't care about a couple of steals.
Speaker 2: If this is what the cost is going to be.
Speaker 2: You know, hindsight's twenty twenty, obviously, but if he stole
Speaker 2: zero basis, I think we'd all be pretty okay with it.
Speaker 2: Just mash the ball, hit three hundred drive in one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty runs. This is brutal. I hope it's
Speaker 2: not too serious. But it's good. We got a little
Speaker 2: bit of a break here for him to maybe recoup
Speaker 2: rate a little bit.
Speaker 1: Let's hope. I mean, I want to see him in
Speaker 1: the All Star Game. But we'll see, we'll see. This
Speaker 1: is what happens every year everybody, right before the All
Speaker 1: Star brank gap. You know, I have like a little
Speaker 1: oh here by finger, I have a tight hamstring, and
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, they just take a week off
Speaker 1: and they don't play Zach Wheeler. Good news. MRI was
Speaker 1: clean on the back, that's good. Joey Ortiz began a
Speaker 1: minor league rehab assignment. Actually he's gonna get it today.
Speaker 1: What am I saying? On the neck that was bothering him?
Speaker 1: Read Garrett goes to the aio with right elbow inflammation.
Speaker 1: So all those people that told me that Edwin Diaz
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be the closer and read Garrett was the guy,
Speaker 1: Hey where are you? I don't see you, I don't
Speaker 1: hear you. Now come on, follow the money, follow them.
Speaker 1: Read Garrett not taking Edwin Diaz's job. And I don't
Speaker 1: want anybody to get hurt, but come on, come on,
Speaker 1: it's gonna get and hurt. Jordan Lawler re injured his hamstring.
Speaker 1: So for everybody who was panicking saying, well, Delo Santos
Speaker 1: isn't going to get his opportunity because Lawler was working
Speaker 1: his way back, that seems to have gone away. But
Speaker 1: now a dynasty perspective, here Lawler another injury. It's getting
Speaker 1: harder hard to think we're gonna see him before what September? Maybe?
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if we do, I don't think he's somebody
Speaker 2: that you gotta be stashing at this point. It's like,
Speaker 2: maybe we get a handful of games, but I don't
Speaker 2: think most people need to worry for this season. Dynasty
Speaker 2: is a different story, but a redraft and I don't
Speaker 2: think somebody need to be worrying about.
Speaker 1: No, definitely not redraft, even in deeper leagues. Right now,
Speaker 1: DL Hall's shut down from throwing for three to ten days.
Speaker 1: So he took this comebacker off his arm, and I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I just kind of brushed it off at whatever,
Speaker 1: no big deal. But apparently it is a big deal
Speaker 1: because now they're gonna wrest him from throwing for a
Speaker 1: couple days. So it must have been a pretty tough
Speaker 1: shot that he took. I didn't see it, but usually
Speaker 1: with those things like ah, yeah, it's a bruising, Gonna
Speaker 1: work my way through it. But apparently not so much.
Speaker 1: So we'll keep an eye on that. But most importantly,
Speaker 1: I think you're keeping an eye on when deal Hall
Speaker 1: gets his next rehear start, because that will then line
Speaker 1: him up in rotation again. He's not rostered in enough
Speaker 1: leagues he's gonna get a crack at this rotation out
Speaker 1: of the break at some point. Jeffrey Springs also working
Speaker 1: his way back. Three runs to earn in four innings
Speaker 1: yesterday in a rehab start, so that is positive. And
Speaker 1: Brian wu is going to start for the Mariners on
Speaker 1: Friday against the Angels. That's good too. So a lot
Speaker 1: of guys working their way back, which is nice to
Speaker 1: see out of curiosity too. When you're looking Joe at
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Springs, it's a guy that is rostered in more
Speaker 1: leagues working his way back. I know he was so
Speaker 1: great before he got hurt last year and the year before.
Speaker 1: Do you think Springs is just gonna pick up where
Speaker 1: he left off or do you see that Russ factor
Speaker 1: where maybe he is not as valuable in redraft as
Speaker 1: he is in keeper leagues.
Speaker 2: I think he's definitely more valuable in keeper leagues, but
Speaker 2: there should still be some value down the stretch. I mean,
Speaker 2: the last three games we saw to him were just
Speaker 2: so brilliant to begin last season. It's hard to think
Speaker 2: that he's going to be able to get up to
Speaker 2: quite that level. Like it was a forty four percent strike.
Speaker 2: I know it's only a couple of games, but he
Speaker 2: was I know the three Game sy Young Award last
Speaker 2: year went to Jeffrey Springs. I don't know if we're
Speaker 2: gonna see that version of him necessarily, but I think
Speaker 2: he can still be an absolute impact arm and if
Speaker 2: he's still sitting out there on your wires, I would
Speaker 2: do what you can to stash them. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of great pitchers stashes, you know. You think about de
Speaker 2: Gram and Kershaw and Robbie Ray. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: potential value in the second half, and I think Springs
Speaker 2: is definitely close to the top of that list. I
Speaker 2: think i'd probably have deGrom at the top just because
Speaker 2: of he's de Groam, but I think Springs is pretty close.
Speaker 1: I would see I would have Springs ahead because he's
Speaker 1: already pitching in games, whereas and Graham's still throwing, so
Speaker 1: I think you get him back. I would have Robbie
Speaker 1: Ray possibly over both of them, because I feel like
Speaker 1: he's ahead of all of them, and I think you're
Speaker 1: looking at you know, you know, pitching in that ballpark
Speaker 1: is gonna be a positive for him, Like, I think
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a good situation. So I'm right there
Speaker 1: with Ray and Springs. Springs I think is the probably
Speaker 1: that guy in the middle for me personally where I think, okay,
Speaker 1: he might be better than Ray, but I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: him back a little after Robbie Ray. But Joe's one
Speaker 1: hundred percent Right now's the time to look at that
Speaker 1: wave WHI are looking, you know, certain leads you're in
Speaker 1: and see are some of these guys that didn't get
Speaker 1: drafted or picked up? Are they still floating around their
Speaker 1: deal halls? Another one too, there's a lot of these
Speaker 1: arms right now floating around veterans and guys working their
Speaker 1: ways back from rotations, from injuries, I should say, working
Speaker 1: their way back into rotations. Joe, it's Thursday. You know
Speaker 1: what that means. It's time for the best bets of
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Speaker 1: Joe Rico joining us today for the best bets of
Speaker 1: the day. Welsh on vacation for the next day and
Speaker 1: two Thursday and Friday. Actually, I'm looking at Pittsburgh's money line.
Speaker 1: Paul Skins on the mound against Milwaukee minus one twenty five.
Speaker 1: The juice is heavy, but I'm willing to go heavy
Speaker 1: onto this year the Milwaukee Brewers offense. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's going to be a match for Paul Skeens. We'll
Speaker 1: see it is on the road. But still I like
Speaker 1: Skeens today in this one. I also like Chicago Cubs
Speaker 1: on the money line, coming off a big win yesterday
Speaker 1: with showta Imanaga against Burns. Maybe the Oriols hitting a
Speaker 1: little bit of a slow patch heading into the break.
Speaker 1: Maybe Justin Steal getting his first win last week. Now
Speaker 1: we're back to Justin Steele today. You're getting plus money
Speaker 1: on this one plus one twelve. I like that. Also,
Speaker 1: I like the alternate seven plus k's for ten or
Speaker 1: how you can get right now at plus one thirty two.
Speaker 1: Why because it's against the Oakland A's and they're the
Speaker 1: gift that keeps on giving. They gave up ten strikeouts yesterday.
Speaker 1: To his counterpartner, I think, how can go over seven today? Joe?
Speaker 1: What do you have for the people for the best
Speaker 1: bets of the day.
Speaker 2: We were actually on the same page for a couple
Speaker 2: of these because I looked at Tanner. How can I
Speaker 2: saw that line? It was pretty I think the actual
Speaker 2: was four and a half or something. It's like, did
Speaker 2: you guys not see what Paveda and Beyos.
Speaker 1: Was the jus is? So here's what you do with that, Joe.
Speaker 1: The juice was so heavy it was like minus one
Speaker 1: sixty I think for that. So what you do is
Speaker 1: you can take that, put it with the money line,
Speaker 1: maybe get it up to even money or close to it,
Speaker 1: that's fine, or you take the run line if you
Speaker 1: really think you know that will push it a little
Speaker 1: bit further, maybe to even or even plus one fifteen
Speaker 1: plus one twenty range. But that's the problem is it's
Speaker 1: juice so high, So I'd rather go for the bigger
Speaker 1: strikeout number. But to Joe's point, everybody, if you're looking
Speaker 1: for a safe bet. Take the heavily juiced k prop
Speaker 1: that's low, like five and a half for how today
Speaker 1: or six that's depending on where you're going, and then
Speaker 1: take the run line that should get you into plus
Speaker 1: money or pretty close to it. Joe, what are the
Speaker 1: other things you're on too?
Speaker 2: So being a company man, these are all at bet
Speaker 2: three six five, So check out Paul Skans. It's kind
Speaker 2: of a combo bet with Joe there. Paul Skan's over
Speaker 2: seven and a half strikeouts. It seems kind of maybe
Speaker 2: not disrespectful, but maybe they haven't fully realized the books
Speaker 2: that Skins like just look at every start eight nine, eight, seven, eight, eight,
Speaker 2: nine eleven, it's like the guy is almost certain to
Speaker 2: go over. Now, Milwaukee's a tough offense, but of those
Speaker 2: elite offenses, they strike out more than any other team
Speaker 2: with a top ten WORC plus, so they do scare
Speaker 2: you a little bit offensively, but they do also strikeout,
Speaker 2: So that is something that I would be looking at
Speaker 2: seven and a half. It's minus one forty, so a
Speaker 2: little bit juiced, but I still think, like you never
Speaker 2: say free money, but Paul Skians seven strikeouts, eight strikeouts,
Speaker 2: that feels very, very easy to come by, and then
Speaker 2: the Dodgers are a little bit disrespected. Today they're plus
Speaker 2: money on the money line. They're facing Aaron Nola, but
Speaker 2: Aaron Nola has struggled a little bit as of late,
Speaker 2: and the Dodgers are kind of due this week. They
Speaker 2: have been two runs, three runs, one run. It's been
Speaker 2: kind of a slow week, and I think there's only
Speaker 2: so long you can keep the Dodgers down for to
Speaker 2: go along with Nola, who hasn't been quite as sharp
Speaker 2: over the last month. So you're getting plus one twenty
Speaker 2: five on the Dodgers' money line. I think that's a
Speaker 2: pretty juicy one. And then to kind of combo with that,
Speaker 2: it's Land and Knack over four and a half strikeouts,
Speaker 2: which is also plus money at plus one ten. He's
Speaker 2: got six and seven strikeouts each of the last two games,
Speaker 2: and he didn't go five innings in either of them.
Speaker 2: And the Phillies actually strike out a decent bit here,
Speaker 2: So I think either one of those on their own
Speaker 2: are pretty good. If you're really feeling the Dodgers, you
Speaker 2: can combine both of those at plus money and get
Speaker 2: yourself a pretty sweet deal as well. So Paul Skian's
Speaker 2: over seven and a half a Dodgers money line, and
Speaker 2: then land a knack over four and a half strikeouts.
Speaker 2: Those are my bets.
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Speaker 1: Those are the best bets of the day for a
Speaker 1: Thursday in Major League Baseball. All right, Joe, a little
Speaker 1: bit of news here too, before we get to the
Speaker 1: home run calls Elie de la Cruz not in the
Speaker 1: lineup today. If you're in daily trans leagues, you're watching live,
Speaker 1: get him out of it. Drew Gilbert is back in
Speaker 1: the lineup today too for the Mets, doing with a
Speaker 1: hamstring issue. He has not been great, but I'm bringing
Speaker 1: this up because he was the prospect that came over
Speaker 1: from the Astros. And apparently the Astros have been talking
Speaker 1: to the Mets too, asking about Severino and Pete Alonso.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what's left in that cupboard for
Speaker 1: the Houston Astros that they want to move, because that
Speaker 1: would take a lot, I think, to get those two
Speaker 1: guys in a deal. But with the way Justin Verlander
Speaker 1: has struggled to be healthy this year, losing Christian Haaveyer
Speaker 1: in this rotation, Severino is not surprising that people are
Speaker 1: going to be asking about him because he's been pretty good.
Speaker 1: And I think the Mets are more realistic. They're thinking
Speaker 1: this is more of a long term project. So what
Speaker 1: do you make of this news here? It was broken
Speaker 1: by the way by uh, let's see who was it
Speaker 1: from the Athletic It was Jim Bowden over there, So
Speaker 1: what do you make of this rumor floating around?
Speaker 2: I think it would be why for the Mets to
Speaker 2: trade Severino. I don't know how much I really trust him,
Speaker 2: especially for future years. Like ever you start with Severino,
Speaker 2: it feels like there's a few walks, and it feels
Speaker 2: like he's a little bit fortunate to come away with
Speaker 2: only one or two or three year in runs. I
Speaker 2: feel like if they can trade him the real life
Speaker 2: Cell High kind of deal, that would make sense. Now,
Speaker 2: like you mentioned, what is going to be going back
Speaker 2: at this point, I'm not sure. I'm not a huge,
Speaker 2: huge prospect guy. Would be crazy to say, like a
Speaker 2: Loperfido for Severino. Is that is that too wild? I'm
Speaker 2: not no.
Speaker 1: See, that's where my head went to right away, because look,
Speaker 1: if we're bringing in Alonso, you know you're having a
Speaker 1: play every day. He's that spot and that's been a
Speaker 1: void for them. A Brawer didn't work out, Singleton was
Speaker 1: never gonna work out. Now, if you're gonna give me
Speaker 1: Loperfito and another prospect, maybe a little deeper one, Welsh
Speaker 1: is the best prospect guy out there, him and ere
Speaker 1: a cross crush those things. But I would say that's
Speaker 1: where the deal has to start. And I like that
Speaker 1: deal for the Mets because low Perfido goes and becomes
Speaker 1: an everyday player right away from your first base, and
Speaker 1: you are starting, and then you have Mauricio playing at
Speaker 1: second base. Next year, you have Lindor at third, you
Speaker 1: have Vento's excuse me, Lindora at short, Vientos at third.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you're looking up. You're the Mets, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we've got this young team here. You got Alvarez behind
Speaker 1: the plate, Nimo is still out there under long time
Speaker 1: on track. All of a sudden, the Mets look like
Speaker 1: a team that's looking like young and impactful and could
Speaker 1: be really good. Maybe, you know, we start flipping some
Speaker 1: other prospects. I don't know. At some point they have
Speaker 1: such a haul. Maybe then they start inverting and saying, okay,
Speaker 1: let's go acquire some more pitching help next year. But
Speaker 1: interesting one for sure. Let's look at the home run board.
Speaker 1: I'm still at twenty four, hanging on there. I haven't
Speaker 1: had a home run all week. That's gross, that's terrible.
Speaker 1: I hate it. So, Joe, I'm gonna call my home
Speaker 1: run today when Rafael devers against those a's. I'm just
Speaker 1: beating up on the a's today because it just feels
Speaker 1: right and it's easy and it's fun. Joe, Rico, you
Speaker 1: got a home run call for today, and have you
Speaker 1: been partaking in our little contest or you're just gonna
Speaker 1: have a little fun here today.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a little fun. But also I'm coming
Speaker 2: for you guys. You know, I'm gonna be doing these
Speaker 2: more often in the second half. We're gonna see if
Speaker 2: I can catch up here, catch a little bit of fire.
Speaker 2: I'm going to Albe Marte, who had a you know,
Speaker 2: it's been a bit of an up and down ride
Speaker 2: for him since he's return, but he started to pick
Speaker 2: things up. He went three for four yesterday and he
Speaker 2: gets that beautiful matchup with Austin Ober today. The classic
Speaker 2: gombring is usually in effect when he's on the mound,
Speaker 2: so I think it's a good spot for Noelvie to
Speaker 2: take one out of the park today. I really like him,
Speaker 2: and I am coming for you guys there. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be on that board by the end of the season.
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen.
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Speaker 1: about that. Mike Mayer's in charge of this, so he
Speaker 1: has taken it to a new level. I love the
Speaker 1: throwback jersey favorite. I know you're a j guy, but
Speaker 1: come on, favorite old school Montreal expo for you? Maybe
Speaker 1: not too old school. I know you're a younger guy.
Speaker 1: Do you even remember the expos?
Speaker 2: Come on? Come on? Of course, of course I remember
Speaker 2: the expos. I'd have to say, well, maybe Pedro, maybe
Speaker 2: Pedro or a Vlad Senior that would be my my
Speaker 2: guys there probably I.
Speaker 1: Got to watch Vlad Senior play in person in that
Speaker 1: Olympic stadium for a weekend against Ken Griffy Adam Dunn
Speaker 1: in the Reds, and it was so fun watching Vlattie
Speaker 1: just with that Howitz erened right field just a cannon
Speaker 1: for an arm so fun to watch. And I missed
Speaker 1: the French scoreboard. I do. I love the scoreboard in French.
Speaker 1: I had no idea what was going on. The hot
Speaker 1: dogs tasted weird. I did drink upie cough medicine and
Speaker 1: I've never been the same since. But luckily that's had
Speaker 1: a positive effect. We will be back tomorrow to do
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