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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to Movie Mics Movie Podcast. I

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Speaker 1: am your host Movie Mike, and we are super hero

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Speaker 1: heavy today. I'm gonna give you the order how I

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Speaker 1: watched all thirty one Marvel movies by character order. I'll

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Speaker 1: explain exactly what that means in the movie review. I'll

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Speaker 1: keep it spoiler free when talking about a Man in

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Speaker 1: the Wasp, Quantum Mania, and in the Trailer Park we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about all the cameos in the flash trailer. So

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Speaker 1: thank you for being here. If you're listening on a Monday,

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Speaker 1: shout out to the Monday Morning Movie Crew. And now

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Speaker 1: my favorite thing to do every week, let's talk movies.

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Speaker 1: In a world where everyone and their mother has a podcast,

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Speaker 1: one man stands to infiltrate the ears of listeners like

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Speaker 1: never before in a movie podcast. A man with so

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Speaker 1: much movie knowledge, he's basically like a walking audimtvite with

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Speaker 1: classes from the Nashville Podcast Networks, Movie mis Movie Podcast.

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Speaker 1: There are now thirty one Marvel movies out and there

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Speaker 1: are different ways that you can experience and watch all

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Speaker 1: these movies. This is actually a question I get a

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Speaker 1: You want to know what is the best way to

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Speaker 1: watch them. I often recommend that you watch them in

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Speaker 1: chronological order, and that means just in the order they

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Speaker 1: came out, starting with Iron Man in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: way they came out in theaters. I always felt that

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Speaker 1: But I had this new idea occurred to me when

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Speaker 1: just didn't do it for me. It's the only m

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Speaker 1: c U movie that I've watched that I was just

436
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 1: waiting for it to end. And this was the first

437
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Speaker 1: time I revisited it since watching it in theaters, and

438
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Speaker 1: I felt the same way. So I put it here

439
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Speaker 1: in case they make an Eternals two and I'll get

440
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Speaker 1: to see how it goes from one to two. But

441
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Speaker 1: aside from that, this is not one I was looking

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Speaker 1: forward to getting to during this experiment. So that's where

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Speaker 1: I put the Eternals. After that, I went with The

444
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Speaker 1: Incredible Hulk from two thousand and eight, which I just

445
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: loved The Incredible Hulk. They've just never got his solo

446
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: movies right. Even though I really enjoyed this movie, It's

447
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Speaker 1: probably one of the m c U movies I've rewatched

448
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Speaker 1: the most because of how much I love Ed Norton

449
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Speaker 1: as the Hulk. Of course, now everybody loves Mark Ruffalo

450
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Speaker 1: a lot more. I just don't think he'll ever get

451
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Speaker 1: his own solo Hulk movie. We got to see him

452
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Speaker 1: more in She Hulk, but I feel like that doesn't

453
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Speaker 1: really add to the case that people want a solo

454
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Speaker 1: Hulk movie. But it's such a great, dynamic character, it

455
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: was such an awesome backstory that that is a shame.

456
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Speaker 1: So there's only one of them, with no hopes of

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Speaker 1: there being a sequel to So that's why I put

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Speaker 1: it here towards the end, although I still think it

459
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Speaker 1: is a great m CU movie. And then at the

460
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Speaker 1: very end, I watched Black Widow from which was another

461
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Speaker 1: movie that I hadn't watched since I've seen it in

462
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: theaters back and I felt really excited going into watching

463
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Speaker 1: this movie because it was the first Marvel movie I

464
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: had seen and almost a year and a half because

465
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Speaker 1: of the pandemic pushing everything back and delaying things that

466
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Speaker 1: I kind of watched this movie with rose colored glasses.

467
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: I was just happy to get another MCU movie, and

468
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: I was excited that Scarlett Johansson finally got her solo movie.

469
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Speaker 1: But this is probably one I would deduct a little

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Speaker 1: bit more from my original rating, but I put it

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Speaker 1: at the end because much like the other ones, here

472
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Speaker 1: at the bottom, there is no promise for a sequel.

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Speaker 1: It was a prequel to begin with. I felt like

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Speaker 1: it came out at a weird time. This one should

475
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Speaker 1: have came out in Phase one or Phase two when

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Speaker 1: all the other solo movies are the Avengers were coming out.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like timing wise, it just wasn't the

478
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Speaker 1: best time for the Black Widow movie. But that is it.

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Speaker 1: That is the viewing order I did by character. I'll

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Speaker 1: run through it again here one more time. At number

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Speaker 1: one is The Avengers. At number two is Age of Voltron.

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Speaker 1: At number three is Infinity War. At number four is Endgame.

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Speaker 1: At number five is iron Man six, iron Man two

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Speaker 1: at seven is iron Man three. At eight is Captain America,

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Speaker 1: The First Avenger at nine is The Winter Soldier, at

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Speaker 1: ten is Civil War. At number eleven you kick off

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Speaker 1: the Thor movies, so you have thour At twelve is

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Speaker 1: The Dark World, at thirteen is Ragnarok, at fourteen is

489
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Speaker 1: Loving Thunder. At fifteen kicks off the Spider Man movies

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Speaker 1: with Homecoming, then at sixteen Far From Home at seventeen

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Speaker 1: No Way Home. Then you move on to eighteen Doctor Strange,

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Speaker 1: nineteen Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, twenty Black

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Speaker 1: Panther twenty one, Conda Forever twenty two, ant Man twenty three,

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Speaker 1: A Man in the losp twenty four, ant Man in

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Speaker 1: the Lost Quantum Mania which just came out, twenty five,

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Speaker 1: Guardians of the Galaxy, twenty six, Guardians of the Galaxy,

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Speaker 1: Volume two, and then you hold that placeholder for volume three.

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Speaker 1: Captain Marvel Shang Chi and The Legend of the Ten

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Speaker 1: Rings twenty nine, Eternals thirty, The Incredible Hulk in thirty

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Speaker 1: one Black Widow. So that is my viewing order. You

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Speaker 1: can check that out in the episode notes of this podcast.

502
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Speaker 1: I'll come back and give my review of ant Man

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Speaker 1: and the Wasp Quantum Media. Let's get into a spoiler

504
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Speaker 1: free review, I want to talk about ant Man and

505
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Speaker 1: the Wasp Quantum Mania. I didn't really have big expectations

506
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: going into this. It's an ant Man movie, of all things.

507
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: I just wanted something to kick off Phase five, introduce

508
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: King the Conqueror, and let me know in what direction

509
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Speaker 1: that Marvel is planning to post Endgame and this movie

510
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: takes place. In the movie, Scott Lang refers to the

511
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Speaker 1: timeline as being a few years after the defeat of Thanos.

512
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: So he's kind of in this part of his life

513
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: where he just saved the world, but now he's kind

514
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: of questioning his worth. He writes a book about everything

515
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: he's gone through with the Avengers, or he's just trying

516
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Speaker 1: to build out his relationship with his daughter, earned back

517
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Speaker 1: some of the time that he missed being away from her.

518
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: She was a kid, now she's grown up and then

519
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Speaker 1: still doing his duties as needed as aunt Man. So

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Speaker 1: before I get into my full review of aunt Man

521
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Speaker 1: and the Wass Quantum Mania, here's just a little bit

522
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Speaker 1: of the trailer. If you haven't heard or seen it

523
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Speaker 1: by now, He will bring me what I need or

524
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: everything you call a life who had you may not

525
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: want her to watch this. We had a deal. You

526
00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: thought you good with me. I don't have to win.

527
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: We both do that to lose. So let me start

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Speaker 1: by saying, I've always been a fan of the ant

529
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Speaker 1: Man movies. When you compare them to all the other

530
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Speaker 1: films in the m c U, are they the best? No,

531
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Speaker 1: But I don't think they ever really have to be.

532
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: They never really set out to be. What I always

533
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: liked about the ant Man movies is they always had

534
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: this fresh comedic approach, and in the m c U,

535
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: I feel like there are all these different characters that

536
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: all resemble different genres in film, and aunt Man was

537
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: always the comedy to me. Maybe it's because it's Paul

538
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: Rudd and sometimes I associate him with Judd Apataw. It

539
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: always felt like the Judd Apatow style of movie in

540
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: the m c U. So that is what I looked

541
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 1: for going into an ant Man movie. I think they

542
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: nailed it in the first one, maybe went a little

543
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: bit down in the second one, but this one doesn't

544
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: really feel like an ant Man movie whatsoever. I think

545
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: the reason behind that is because because this is Marvel

546
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: kicking off Phase five and showing us that there's this

547
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: tonal shift now in their movies. I think the reason

548
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: I found it hard to get into this movie, and

549
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: I never really thought it was a bad movie. I

550
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: just never really thought it was a great movie is

551
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: because it was so different than every other ant Man movie,

552
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: and for what I know his movies to be, it

553
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: was almost like his character was a little bit out

554
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: of place. It was on such a large scale. I

555
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: know there's gonna be a lot of puns to him

556
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: being a small superhero, but we'll get through those. But

557
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: it was such a big scale adventure and such a

558
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: big villain to take on. I found myself saying a

559
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: lot good a man really do this by himself? Is

560
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 1: this really an ant Man movie? Or is he the

561
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: only character around now to carry out this story? When

562
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: you get into more of the plot details, yes, they

563
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: do work in his character pretty well. But when I

564
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: go into an m c U movie, I always want

565
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: to find the can sinuation of our character's story. And

566
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: Scott Lang is a very interesting character. He is a

567
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: reformed criminal and the thing he's always hold the closest

568
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: to his heart is his relationship with his daughter Cassie.

569
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: Above anything that he does. He always wants to make

570
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: sure that he's doing right by her and getting to

571
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: make up the time he's lost with her after being

572
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: gone for five years in the Blip. So that is

573
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Speaker 1: what I was looking forward to seeing more of in

574
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: this movie. I think the trailer hinted at it a

575
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: little bit more, but I felt like it was just

576
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: lacking something a little bit emotionally for me. And maybe

577
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: that's also due to the large scale of this movie.

578
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: There's so much special effects and c G. I I

579
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: wonder if it was just hard for our actors here

580
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: to interact with one another, interact with some of the

581
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: other characters, and really give a full, fleshed out performance.

582
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: A lot of this movie was carried by Paul Rudd,

583
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: but I would say, hands down the best performance was

584
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: Jonathan Majors as King. This movie really should have just

585
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Speaker 1: been called King the Conqueror. That's what this movie should

586
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: have been. And they couldn't have made that movie because

587
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: people would have been less interested in seeing it. It

588
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done what it did at the box office

589
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: this weekend. But if it would have just been called

590
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Speaker 1: Came the Conqueror, this would have served so much better

591
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: as a villain origin store, because that is really what

592
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: this movie ended up being. It is what I enjoyed

593
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Speaker 1: the most about this movie. Jonathan Majors gave the best performance.

594
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Speaker 1: I love just the cadence in the way that he spoke.

595
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Speaker 1: And there were times in this movie where it got

596
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Speaker 1: very quiet and the movie had some time to breathe,

597
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: which I've never really seen in a Marvel movie. It

598
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: was really committed to fleshing out this villain and making

599
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: them seem very dark and mysterious, and attention just kind

600
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: of grow and him getting a little bit more evil

601
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: and evil as it went along. So shout out to

602
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Speaker 1: Peyton Reid, who directed not only this movie but the

603
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: other two aunt Man movies, to really show a different

604
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: side of aunt Man and make this one be completely

605
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: different than the other two. I just don't know if

606
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Speaker 1: I fully bought into it, because, like I said, it's

607
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: not that this is a bad movie whatsoever. There's just

608
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: kind of um flacking while you watch this movie, and

609
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: I didn't find myself as fully engaged as I normally

610
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: am in an m c U movie. And I would

611
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: hate to say it's because aunt Man isn't that great

612
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: of a character. I kind of relate to aunt Man

613
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: in a way that you have all these other big

614
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: superheroes that people love and want to see more movies

615
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: of Iron Man, Captain America, Spider Man, and aunt Man

616
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: is just kind of seen as like the laughing stock.

617
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: And there's even a lot of references throughout this movie

618
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: of him just not being known by people. He goes

619
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: to the coffee shop and they think he's Spider Man.

620
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: I get that sometimes when I go out in public

621
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: and people will recognize me from the Bobby Bones Show,

622
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: but they don't entirely know my name. They just kind

623
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: of know my face and they're like, are you Raymundo?

624
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: Are you Eddie? So I did like the message this

625
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: movie had of rooting for the little guy. So aside

626
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: from Paul Rudd, aside from Jonathan Major's, there weren't any

627
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: other real standout performances. I love Evangeline Lily, but she

628
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: didn't really add much as the Wasp. Michelle Peiffer as

629
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: a National Treasure, hands down the best catwoman ever, but

630
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: I found her character a little bit off putting in

631
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Speaker 1: this movie. And Michael Douglas is okay. I've just never

632
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: been the biggest fan of him in the m c U,

633
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: So I do like the ambition in the scale that

634
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: this movie took on. It almost felt a little bit

635
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: Star Wars like at times. I'm gonna make a reference here,

636
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying in any way this movie is

637
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: like the best Star Wars movie of all time, But

638
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: there are some similarities in the beginning of this movie

639
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: and in a Star Wars A New Hope. You're kind

640
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: of thrown in this entirely new world. You have all

641
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: these weird characters and creatures speaking this weird language. They

642
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: go to a bar. So I really liked the vibe

643
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: of the movie in the first twenty minutes you were

644
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: really just thrown into this entire new world. You didn't

645
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: really ask questions. Everything just kind of existed in the

646
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: quantum realm. So that part I really did enjoy. I

647
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: wish it would have kept that same energy and style

648
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: throughout the entire movie. But with this movie being the

649
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: first movie in Phase five five, I feel like they

650
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Speaker 1: got the character wrong, and I think aunt Man would

651
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: have been better in Phase four. And you take the

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Speaker 1: energy of this movie and put it into the Thor character.

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Speaker 1: So eliminate Thord, Love and Thunder and put aunt Man

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Speaker 1: there and make it a comedy like the other two,

655
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Speaker 1: and then take Thor and put him in this movie

656
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Speaker 1: with Came the Conqueror, and I think we would have

657
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: had a much better movie and a much better kickoff

658
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Speaker 1: to the m c U Phase five, because as much

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Speaker 1: as I loved comedic Thor and Ragnarok, I think Thor

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Speaker 1: at his best is when he is angry, when he

661
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Speaker 1: is piste off, when he wants to defeat a big villain,

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Speaker 1: him dropping in and saying bring me Thanos, like that

663
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Speaker 1: is the Thor that I like, and we lost that

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Speaker 1: after Endgame, and then instead of Thor Love and Thunder,

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Speaker 1: we get this really goofy, jolly Thor in a romantic comedy.

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Speaker 1: But if we put him in this same situation of

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Speaker 1: having to take on Came the Conqueror, I feel like

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Speaker 1: that fight would have been a lot more epic. And

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Speaker 1: even the similarities in the villains between those two movies,

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Speaker 1: I think King the Conqueror is what I thought Gore

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Speaker 1: the God Butcher was going to be in Thor, Love

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Speaker 1: and Thunder, and I don't really think yet that King

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Speaker 1: is that Thanos level of villain. I don't think he

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Speaker 1: has to be that, right, now, which is what everybody

675
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Speaker 1: is always going to compare the new villain to. But

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Speaker 1: he has so much great potential and this was a

677
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Speaker 1: very good origin story for him. Above everything else in

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Speaker 1: this movie, I love the establishment of the character, but

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Speaker 1: there was nothing that really stood out about this movie.

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Speaker 1: So I think on its own probably a two point five,

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Speaker 1: but I love King the Conqueror so much that I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna bump it up to about a three point five

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Speaker 1: out of five. Just that character alone, I think is

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Speaker 1: what the m c you needs right now. And even

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Speaker 1: though it's not the best m CU movie of all time,

686
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Speaker 1: it's not top ten, probably not even top twenty, I

687
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Speaker 1: think it did exactly what it needed to do be

688
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Speaker 1: a pretty good mid em CU movie, do well the

689
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Speaker 1: box office, not really make m c U fans mad,

690
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: and instead really give us a look at the direction

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00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: that they're going in and set that tone. I think

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00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: that was important for this movie. So even though it

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Speaker 1: wasn't my favorite, I didn't leave the theater completely excited

694
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Speaker 1: ready for the next one. Even the end credit scenes

695
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Speaker 1: were all right, So I said, go into it with

696
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: a little bit lower expectations and you'll still have a

697
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Speaker 1: good time at the movies. I give ant Man in

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Speaker 1: the Wasp Quantum Mania at three point five out of

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Speaker 1: five Quantum Realms. It's time to head down to movie Mike, Well,

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Speaker 1: it looks like we are actually gonna get this movie.

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Speaker 1: The Flash comes out on June three, and I gotta

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00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: say this trailer looks super, super slick. The flash Suit

703
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: looks amazing, all the Batman running around. Of all the

704
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: DC movies coming out this year, I thought this one

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00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: had the most potential, but I'm still hesitant towards anything

706
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Speaker 1: DC right now. And I felt like this was a

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00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: movie they were putting out because they had already spent

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00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: all the money on it. They had all the issues

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Speaker 1: with Ezra Miller and the last couple of years, all

710
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: the things that they have been through. So the entire

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Speaker 1: future of The Flash, I always felt, has been hanging

712
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: in the balance. And even with James Gunn hyping this

713
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: movie up, saying it's one of the best superhero films

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00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: he has seen ever, I was like, I'm not really

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Speaker 1: buying into that hype yet, but after watching this trailer,

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Speaker 1: they have my curiosity. I'm not gonna say it. I

717
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: won't say it again. I've been burned by black Adam.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm excited. I'm not. I'm not excited. Nope,

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Speaker 1: I am not. Before I get into more of my thoughts,

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Speaker 1: here is just a little bit of the trailer. I

721
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: could fix things. You can also destroy every second, just

722
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: keep me happening. I completely broke the universe we've been waiting.

723
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: I created a world with no meta humans, and now

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Speaker 1: there's no one to defend us. You are, Yeah, I'm

725
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: bad man. It's that line right there that got me,

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00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna say it. But before we get

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Speaker 1: into talking about that, let's talk about The Flash. I

728
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: always thought he was the best part of the Justice

729
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Speaker 1: League and the chaotic Nous and all the mess that

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Speaker 1: that movie was. The introduction of his character was great.

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Speaker 1: The Flash is fresh and fun. He is kind of

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Speaker 1: like the Spider Man of the d C universe as

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Speaker 1: far as the movies and the embodiment of the character

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Speaker 1: being the younger one, everything being new and fun to them,

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Speaker 1: looking up to the other superheroes. That is what Barry

736
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: is in the Justice League and in the Flash solo film,

737
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: Barry Allen is trying to change the past in order

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Speaker 1: to save his mom from dying. And then doing so

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00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: he's messing with timeline. So it's kind of like d

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Speaker 1: C getting into the whole multiverse space, which you find

741
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: that is really appeasing to comic book and superhero movie

742
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: fans because you can reintroduce characters from other timelines. It

743
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: gets people hype, it gets people excited. So I feel

744
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: like that is them trying to cash in on what

745
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: is working so well right now over in Marvels. But

746
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: in doing all these things of changing the past, you

747
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: change the future. So in this movie you find not

748
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Speaker 1: only multiple Batman, you also find multiple Flashes they're Supergirl

749
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: in this movie, and maybe even some more surprises that

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00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: they aren't saying yet, which I would find really surprising

751
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: for DC to keep anything under wraps, because I think

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00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: if they have any kind of star power, they're letting

753
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: everybody know, just like they did with Black Adam, and

754
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: they quickly let people know that Henry cavill was back

755
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: as Superman. They really spoiled the ending to that pretty quick.

756
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: And there are some glimpses in this trailer of a

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00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: dark night looking Batman motorcycle, you know, the one with

758
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: the big wheel. It looks like it's still been afflex

759
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: Batman driving it. But I just had a little glimpse

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00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: of a Christian Bale Dark Knight era Batman. I don't

761
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: think they would do that. I don't think they would

762
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: keep that under wraps. But if they did bring that

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Speaker 1: moment to life on screen, didn't spoil that and that

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Speaker 1: was a surprise. I think that would be a pretty

765
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: big win, especially after taking away Henry cavill as Superman.

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Speaker 1: And maybe that is what James Gunn is hinting at

767
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Speaker 1: as it being one of the best superhero movies of

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Speaker 1: all time, Like that is a big claim to make.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there has to be something really big

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00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: in this movie to earn that statement. But you do

771
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: have Michael Keaton finally returning as Batman. There's been so

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00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: much talk about this surrounding, you know, the Batgirl movie,

773
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Speaker 1: but now we get the first glimpse of him in

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00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: this trailer. And I've always said that my le Keaton

775
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: is my favorite Batman because I think he embodies the

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Speaker 1: character to its fullest, whether he's in the Batman iconic

777
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Speaker 1: suit with a yellow logo. Michael Keaton as Batman were

778
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Speaker 1: one of the first real superhero movies that I remember

779
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: watching so I think between him as Batman, but also

780
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Speaker 1: him as Bruce Wayne, altogether, I just think he fully

781
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: embodies what it means to be Batman. And I love

782
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: Christian Bales Batman in action, but when it comes to

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Speaker 1: his Bruce Wayne, I'm not entirely in love with it.

784
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Speaker 1: I don't feel like his performance there is what made

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00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 1: those movies great. And as much as I love Robert

786
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: Pattinson's tag being so different, he's a reclusive, he's weird,

787
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: he's a great detective, and he is not a playboy

788
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: whatsoever like all the other Bruce Wayne's have been, I

789
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: just feel like he's a little bit more of an

790
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: alternative Batman, which I really enjoy. But when you talk

791
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Speaker 1: about who is the best Batman of all time, I'm

792
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Speaker 1: gonna say Michael Keaton ten at at ten times. And

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Speaker 1: then you also have Ben Affleck returning as Batman, and

794
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: I think he gets a little bit more hate than

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Speaker 1: he deserves as Batman. I think it's a fine Batman,

796
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: a good Batman. Even I like him as Bruce Wayne

797
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: with a little hints of gray in his hair. I

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00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: like the big, bulky Batman, very comic book style looking.

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Speaker 1: So I've always been a big fan of his suits.

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Speaker 1: I just think when it comes to him having a

801
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: chance to give a great performance, have a really great

802
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: script to work with, none of the movies have really

803
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: done that for him, so we all just kind of

804
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: see and associate with him being a bad Batman. I

805
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: don't think that's the case. I just think he hasn't

806
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: had the tea up to really give a great performances Batman.

807
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: Maybe this movie could be it for him. I also

808
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: love the scene with Supergirl in this trailer, So this

809
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: movie has a lot of things going for it. I

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00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: think the big part is bringing Michael Keaton back because

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Speaker 1: that will get some old school Batman fans back interested

812
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: in wanting to see this movie. I think that will

813
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: have a big impact when it comes to the box

814
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: office numbers in this movie banking on that nostalgia and

815
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: that is the moment everybody was talking about online and

816
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: once this trailer dropped. So this movie does have a

817
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: lot of promise. And I am mixed, nope, I am

818
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: ex side, I am excite. I'm really looking forward to

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Speaker 1: seeing this movie in theaters again. It comes out on June.

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Speaker 1: This makes edition of movie, and that's gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: For another episode here of the podcast, but before I go,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get my listeners shout out of the week.

823
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Speaker 1: How do you do that? All you have to do

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Speaker 1: is send me an email movie Mike d at gmail

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Speaker 1: dot com, tweet me, tag me in your Instagram story.

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Speaker 1: But today's shout out comes from my Instagram and the

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Speaker 1: comments on my review of You People. So this week's

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Speaker 1: listener of the week is find your Sales a k

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Speaker 1: a Alyssa on Instagram, who commented and said, couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 1: I'm not fully convinced that the writers wanted the audience

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Speaker 1: to focus on the love story as much as the

832
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Speaker 1: dynamic between the parents how it affected the couple's relationship,

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Speaker 1: but building out that the love story and making sure

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Speaker 1: they had chemistry was a vital part that was missing

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Speaker 1: for a lot of us. So a lot of people

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Speaker 1: had a lot of things to say about You People

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Speaker 1: and why they didn't enjoy that movie. And this is

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Speaker 1: the part I really enjoy about doing this podcast is

839
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Speaker 1: also seeing what you thought about movies, letting me know

840
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Speaker 1: if I was completely off. But I feel like we

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Speaker 1: all felt collectively about the same about You People. So

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Speaker 1: shout out to Alyssa and everybody who commented on that video.

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Speaker 1: You can always check out clips of the show on

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Speaker 1: my Instagram at TikTok at Mike Destro or watch full

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Speaker 1: movie reviews on my YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash

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Speaker 1: Mike Destro. And until next time, go out and watch

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Speaker 1: good movies and I will talk to you later