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Speaker 1: their heads and then blame it on us. Don't get
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Speaker 1: and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy,
Speaker 1: beautiful world. In the studio, crazy bone, Yo, what's up king?
Speaker 1: It's good, it's good with someone my man craze herself,
Speaker 1: but it's it is beautiful. But I know we're finn
Speaker 1: to get into it for so off the rip. I
Speaker 1: want to say this before I forget, because I know
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that everybody should know by now.
Speaker 1: But we don't. I think people kind of take it
Speaker 1: for granted. Crazy Bone. How did you come up with
Speaker 1: the name Crazy Bone? Man, It's like it's it's just
Speaker 1: like a family name, you know what I'm saying. Uh,
Speaker 1: we came up with it like back um, like well
Speaker 1: after high school. You know, it was lazy Bone actually
Speaker 1: had a little a little clicky ram with when he
Speaker 1: was out living in Dallas, Texas actually, and they called
Speaker 1: itself Bone Enterprise. So when he came back to Cleveland,
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, man, had this little click I ran, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying, we should take this name and
Speaker 1: we should use it and the bone and the bone
Speaker 1: name is the family name, you know. So that's why
Speaker 1: that's an acroname. Yeah, Bony. Back back then, the stiff
Speaker 1: um beating no niggers there every day, brewed out niggas
Speaker 1: every day, butted out niggas everything, you know, whatever. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah whatever at the time, you know what saying.
Speaker 1: But and and you know that's why everybody got to say,
Speaker 1: like last nigger, that's that's that's what makes you the family,
Speaker 1: you know, saying like the bone is the family name.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I can tell when I ask you a
Speaker 1: question you know, you had like, yeah, it kind of
Speaker 1: made you cringe a little bit. There are other things
Speaker 1: like in the lyrics or whatever, that you may have
Speaker 1: said back in the day that you wouldn't say today.
Speaker 1: Oh man, yeah, man, that's a lot of stuff we said,
Speaker 1: like a lot of stuff we said that we probably
Speaker 1: couldn't say to day. You know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: it's like then cut you off a quick, man, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's a lot of stuff Like I mean, man,
Speaker 1: you know when you're young, you're like, you have this
Speaker 1: whole way of thinking. Man, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and you think that's the right way until you get older,
Speaker 1: until you hit that brick wall that you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like thinking that way, and then you get
Speaker 1: older and you're like, oh, maybe that wasn't the right way,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of things like like I was just talking
Speaker 1: about when I did the um the interview on the
Speaker 1: drinking chains, like like playing with the Uigi board and
Speaker 1: like talking about Tuiji board. You know heard that's something
Speaker 1: that I would never do today, you know, devilish man.
Speaker 1: Everybody thought that man devil I started talking about that
Speaker 1: weiji board. No, No, how did that make you feel
Speaker 1: when they started saying and saying that, man, it was
Speaker 1: like I kind of took a fence to it. But
Speaker 1: then you know what I'm saying, Like, when I really
Speaker 1: thought about it, I was like, yeah, but I mean,
Speaker 1: but this is what you're putting out there and you're
Speaker 1: saying like, would you expect people to think you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? But we we we did it like
Speaker 1: we did it as a ways, just just expressing ourselves,
Speaker 1: just talking about what we've been experienced in the past,
Speaker 1: whether it was like dumb, stupid, like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like we was young, like so we're experimenting
Speaker 1: with things, man, like whether it be mal juanna, drinking,
Speaker 1: playing with the board. You know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: was just like we did We did that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff when we were jugging, Like, yeah, this experience is
Speaker 1: ship you know, Luigi board experience. Yeah. Because of the
Speaker 1: negativity that came with it, does it make you a
Speaker 1: little bit more cognizant about things that you promote, you know,
Speaker 1: like at least having more knowledge about it before you
Speaker 1: start promoting something, Oh yeah, pushing a certain angle or whatever. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: most definitely, most definitely. You know, I do think a
Speaker 1: lot about you. Don't like the content I put out now,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But you know, like being
Speaker 1: an artist, you know, like I always tell people, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, um, being an artist, man, Like you go
Speaker 1: through different emotions and that's how you express yourself. So
Speaker 1: one day you can be feeling like, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, fun the world and you want to you
Speaker 1: you you feel like being a gangster. You gotta gangster attitude,
Speaker 1: you know, saying. One day you could feel like, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you want to bring peace to
Speaker 1: the world. It's just like living in this world, that's
Speaker 1: what brings out those emotions or and I think that's
Speaker 1: what make good artists, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: I do, I do, like pay pay more attention, like
Speaker 1: to the things I talked about now and trying to
Speaker 1: make it more not necessarily everything positive, but just like
Speaker 1: share some light on some things out here just going
Speaker 1: on in the world now not and don't just be
Speaker 1: rapping about me all the time or just be rapping
Speaker 1: about you know who got the best style, and like
Speaker 1: things like that, you gotta like get something back to
Speaker 1: the people. And sometimes, you know, I'm saying, when you
Speaker 1: talk about who got the best style, lazy seems to
Speaker 1: be believe that Bone got the best style, and as
Speaker 1: he should. I think that should believe that. Hey man,
Speaker 1: nobody fucking with me period exactly. And I think that
Speaker 1: you have to have a certain cockiness so to speak
Speaker 1: about yourself to even be a rapper, and that make
Speaker 1: people believe what you're saying. When he spoke about the
Speaker 1: Meg saying that they were the best ever, we're the
Speaker 1: best ever at all the groups and all hip hop
Speaker 1: groups ever, We're the best. How did you feel about that?
Speaker 1: Because it's lazy to take it personal. You're taking a
Speaker 1: big time offense to it. Yeah you did, man, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't really take it personal at all, because, like,
Speaker 1: just like you said, I feel like they still feel
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, you're on top of the game.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, y'all, y'all, y'all data targets now, so
Speaker 1: it's like everybody is shooting that them, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like when you're at the top
Speaker 1: of the game, that's just how it is, man like.
Speaker 1: And and you're supposed to you have that footing that
Speaker 1: you're invincible. So you're gonna walk like that, you're gonna
Speaker 1: talk like that. We did, you know what, we couldn't
Speaker 1: could nobody tell me? Man, when we was out there, Like,
Speaker 1: couldn't nobody tell us that they was better than us?
Speaker 1: Bottom up? I mean still okay to it tow us
Speaker 1: hurt the still you know what it's like. And man,
Speaker 1: you're right, you can't even you can't even like begin
Speaker 1: to think you want to be into hip hop without
Speaker 1: having some type of some some some form of aggression
Speaker 1: to your style, because like you gotta get you gotta
Speaker 1: commit and stake your claim, gotta gotta take your place,
Speaker 1: and nine times of the ten you gotta somebody else
Speaker 1: out of the airs. So you gotta be aggressive with it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it's real talk. Man.
Speaker 1: Let's take a trip to Cleveland. Oh yeah, it's the hometown.
Speaker 1: This is where it all begin, Cleveland on how you
Speaker 1: As far as I know, you guys were the first
Speaker 1: hip hop group to come out of Cleveland, probably the
Speaker 1: first like grouping a long time. I know we had
Speaker 1: r and B came out of Cleveland. Definitely hip hop.
Speaker 1: I thank you what you guys were the first right
Speaker 1: as far as mainstream, you know, definitely definitely. And how
Speaker 1: was that like growing up in your personal space, your household? Man?
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, like, oh man, it was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, well, you know, I was I was. I
Speaker 1: was raised at the real strict household. I was raised
Speaker 1: as a Jehovah's witness, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, like my parents were strict.
Speaker 1: So everything I did, you know, saying when I got
Speaker 1: up age, I would I snuck and done, you know
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like when I went, when I when I hooked up
Speaker 1: with my dudes, it was just like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Yeah, I knew what they were saying. It
Speaker 1: was just like I just wanted to You know how
Speaker 1: it is when when somebody telling out to do something
Speaker 1: when you're young, you just be like why, I want
Speaker 1: to know what he's saying that don't do it, you
Speaker 1: know saying. So that's exactly what I did, went onto
Speaker 1: the world and experienced it for myself. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it was like in the music scene
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, it wasn't that, it wasn't that big at all.
Speaker 1: Like we had we had to get out and it
Speaker 1: wasn't no when the end and that what none of that.
Speaker 1: Like we had to get out and look for talent
Speaker 1: shows and we had to keep an ear to the
Speaker 1: radio station and like just like look at like like
Speaker 1: look for flyers because the music scene was just like this,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like in it was just
Speaker 1: hard life for anybody to hear us. And we man,
Speaker 1: we just entered every talent show and showcasing you could
Speaker 1: think of. Man that like, we went so far in
Speaker 1: Cleveland to the point we couldn't go no further. Like
Speaker 1: we we became very known in Cleveland and we dropped
Speaker 1: up local albums called Faces of Death. We became very
Speaker 1: known from that project. And it was like we we
Speaker 1: understood that. You know, I'm saying, like now it's time
Speaker 1: for us to leave because like we started getting in
Speaker 1: all kind of trouble. I went to prison, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And we was like, Yo, we don't
Speaker 1: leave here now and do something with this music. It's
Speaker 1: never gonna happen. So when I came home, we was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta get the hell out of Cleveland,
Speaker 1: like for real, and we had to go to California.
Speaker 1: Where was your furry into hip hop in the first place?
Speaker 1: Like when did you first decide that? I think I
Speaker 1: want to wrap man? So um, like before I was
Speaker 1: wrapping you know what I'm saying. Like I was into
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson and like New Edition, like I was in
Speaker 1: like in the R and B. But then one day
Speaker 1: my brother brought home L L cu J album Radio
Speaker 1: and I sat there and listen to this album and
Speaker 1: I was like blowing the way. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: let's dud, It's crazy, and I wanted to learn the
Speaker 1: lyrics to hit soon so so us So I started
Speaker 1: writing the lyrics down and I was I was writing
Speaker 1: the lyrics down, I saw the format of how to
Speaker 1: write write a rhyme, so I was like, shoot, I
Speaker 1: think and write my own rhyme. So I just started
Speaker 1: writing home rounds and I never stopped writing from that day.
Speaker 1: It was like back that but that was back in
Speaker 1: the day when rappers used to drop about four to
Speaker 1: eight bars perverse. Yeah, now you come along and you're
Speaker 1: dropping like hunted bars in one verse. You know, like,
Speaker 1: where did this rappid style come from? This man a
Speaker 1: rapper style came from? Like I tell everybody's story. I've
Speaker 1: even told the person to expanded. Big Daddy came. I
Speaker 1: was in I was locked up in the county jail
Speaker 1: and I was, um, I was sitting in there. I
Speaker 1: was sitting in the day room watching Uh. We just
Speaker 1: watched a rap city, like the basement rap city, and
Speaker 1: a big Daddy came soon came on and like he
Speaker 1: had this one line to where he was like then
Speaker 1: he stopped and never did it again. And I was
Speaker 1: I sat there like, yo, if somebody wrote around like
Speaker 1: that just went all the way through and just didn't stop.
Speaker 1: That she had been cold. So I went back to
Speaker 1: my sale and I wrote around like that. I memorized
Speaker 1: that ship. Now. Um, when I got out, I said
Speaker 1: it till the rest of the group and it was like, yo,
Speaker 1: that's it is crazy. And so they all took that
Speaker 1: and they all went off and wrote their own little
Speaker 1: ship and it was the same way. It was different
Speaker 1: And that same rap that I wrote it in in
Speaker 1: prison is the one I said for easy on the phone.
Speaker 1: That actually got us to deal. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was crazy like that that one around my room.
Speaker 1: I sat there and was like, yeah, I'm to write
Speaker 1: a whole rhyme like that, like from a big Daddy
Speaker 1: kin line. Do you remember the line? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: I don't even remember the line, bro like, but I
Speaker 1: know I heard him like it was. It was on
Speaker 1: his life, Um I think it was on his third album.
Speaker 1: I think it was, yeah, his third album. Leg don't
Speaker 1: remember the line though, It's crazy. What else do you do? Fast? Man?
Speaker 1: Uh man? A lot of things. I moved around fast.
Speaker 1: I moved like you know what I'm saying. I hate
Speaker 1: waiting on people. I just moved. I'll let to take
Speaker 1: my time when a lot of things. Yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: like the rush, like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: a lot of things make a lot of mistakes, moving
Speaker 1: too fast for real. I want to talk about the group, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the chemistry of the group,
Speaker 1: because you're saying like they all wrote their own versus
Speaker 1: in a different way, and that's true. Like each of
Speaker 1: you guys have your own particular style. You know, you
Speaker 1: got wish, got this thing, you got busy got this thing,
Speaker 1: he's got this thing. You flesh got his thing, you
Speaker 1: got your thing, and it just meshes. Was that any
Speaker 1: point when you guys were making music where you had
Speaker 1: when somebody wasn't getting it and you said, oh man,
Speaker 1: we gotta do it like this or was it just
Speaker 1: a natural yeah fit from day one? Yeah, but it
Speaker 1: was a natural cause because because we were together like
Speaker 1: so much, like we was like at some point of time,
Speaker 1: we all lived with each other, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: so like at some point they all live with at
Speaker 1: my mama house. We all lived at lay mama house,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, so we was always
Speaker 1: together all the time. So whenever we like, we we
Speaker 1: wrote our rhymes together, like we did everything together. It
Speaker 1: was crime or making music, We've done everything together, and
Speaker 1: it was like just us and like so when we
Speaker 1: were like used to write our lyrics, we used to
Speaker 1: write together, and like so we would know, like the
Speaker 1: other person's verse from the jump. So when we would
Speaker 1: add live the person's verse by one person was rapping
Speaker 1: the other foot with that live it was sounding like
Speaker 1: he was harmonizing, and like we didn't notice it, but
Speaker 1: people started telling I was like, yo, y'all, y'all sound
Speaker 1: like the rapping Temptations or something shing you don't like,
Speaker 1: And and people in the who started telling us this,
Speaker 1: they was like, y'all broken me, And there's the first
Speaker 1: person to hear y'all it's a rap, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And then like we we started realizing and
Speaker 1: then like we started doing it more like I started
Speaker 1: like doing the singing and like putting the singing with it,
Speaker 1: and it's just like but it but it, But it
Speaker 1: gradually phoned over time because first we just wanted to
Speaker 1: be those dudes. It's just constantly like flow, like no
Speaker 1: breaks in between, just keep flowing. And then like when
Speaker 1: we when that, when we added the like the like
Speaker 1: the like the the double time flow is just like
Speaker 1: elevated and just like it just all came together just
Speaker 1: out of just just just naturally, like you said, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, y'all had collaborations with Twister, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all have done collapse with Twister? Yes, and do you
Speaker 1: and have y'all ever done anything but do it Die? No? No,
Speaker 1: I think lazy Man had done a project with him,
Speaker 1: but with one of the members. Yeah, that would be
Speaker 1: five Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely we need to get that
Speaker 1: ghetto boys man, come on, man and leave man that
Speaker 1: and then we've been talking about that. That's classic, man.
Speaker 1: We need So I already got the title right here, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got I got the I got the title. Could
Speaker 1: it could actually be the album title or single title,
Speaker 1: but I got a good Oh yeah, I'll tell it
Speaker 1: to you after. Oh good, oh good. But let's make
Speaker 1: it happen for real. Definitely. But so what kind of
Speaker 1: students were you? Student? Yeah? Man, I ain't you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. School wasn't my thing, man, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I mean, only the only other
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to do besides music was played football
Speaker 1: because I'm a he was like a football fan, so
Speaker 1: that that that's the only thing I wanted to do.
Speaker 1: But then when I found out, you know, school wasn't
Speaker 1: for you know what I'm saying, You had to you
Speaker 1: had to maintain the school. It was that man. Yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, And it ain't like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like school, I was just like one of them dudes later,
Speaker 1: you know, it was just like I learned enough in
Speaker 1: school to realize most of this is bullshit. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna like need none of this. I don't give a
Speaker 1: damn about this. This is not gonna help me. These
Speaker 1: are lies anyway, I'm saying. So as long as I
Speaker 1: got what I need to function in this world, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about what you're doing, the trying to
Speaker 1: teach us. I'm like, I'm going on my own path,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that's just what I did. Man,
Speaker 1: you well well ahead of me. Man, Yeah, I I
Speaker 1: needed this stuff. Man, I didn't figure it out till
Speaker 1: I got out of school. I was a man need this.
Speaker 1: Why do I need to know how to dive sect
Speaker 1: the frog? Really? For real? For real? It's crazy. You
Speaker 1: got any kids? Yeah? Man? How many kids you got?
Speaker 1: I got ten kids? Kids? Yeah, ten kids? God, yes,
Speaker 1: and I got ahead. I got six girls and four boys.
Speaker 1: Now do you have a close relationship? You got close
Speaker 1: relationship with all of them. And I keep all of them, like,
Speaker 1: all of them close. You know what I'm saying. They
Speaker 1: all they all like they are intertwined with each other.
Speaker 1: They stay in contact with each other, you know, make
Speaker 1: sure they bonds stay close. Real here's here's anything, right,
Speaker 1: So where my kids we're we're going, Well, I had
Speaker 1: my daughter first, so my daughter was had all of
Speaker 1: the attention to herself for the first four years, and
Speaker 1: then my son come along, and not until he gets
Speaker 1: there do I realize I'm really gonna have to start
Speaker 1: giving him some of the time that she gets. Because
Speaker 1: I'm thinking at the time that I'm giving up all
Speaker 1: the time, all the spare that I had, and now
Speaker 1: I gotta split it up with her brother. So I
Speaker 1: started feeling a little guilty about that. Do you ever
Speaker 1: feel guilty about spending more time with one of your
Speaker 1: kids than the other? Yeah? Man, yeah, definitely definitely. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because like I mean, I do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying because um uh, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I even like to be caution sometimes
Speaker 1: about like sometimes I'm kicking with something like what I post,
Speaker 1: you know, because something because because someone kids gave me,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, didn't you didn't tell us about this? He was, well,
Speaker 1: how can we not there? You know saying? But like
Speaker 1: you have to be I mean, I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's hard, especially when you have like ten kids, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying it's hard to like ballots it
Speaker 1: but you have to find that way. Man, just get
Speaker 1: the time me and like and you know, I know
Speaker 1: I could even be doing more, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But it's just you know, like it's just a balance
Speaker 1: you gotta have for real, definitely. And how old is
Speaker 1: the youngest kid and the oldest. The youngest is thirteen
Speaker 1: and the oldest is twenty four? Okay, back to back
Speaker 1: most Oh yeah, basically no twins and that at all?
Speaker 1: No no twins. Okay, all right, that's uh. And is
Speaker 1: that something that you wanted to do from Jump Street,
Speaker 1: Like you wanted to have a large family. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: always wanted to have like a lot of kids. You look,
Speaker 1: because all you know, I come from a big family. Man.
Speaker 1: My family is like huge. I got family from the South,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, down from Alabama to Georgia
Speaker 1: to Cleveland. Like it's it's it's crazy that my family
Speaker 1: is big. So um you saw is having like big
Speaker 1: family reunions, having a lot of cousins. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of nieces and nephews. Man, it's just like a lot
Speaker 1: of big family, right. You know what I'm saying because
Speaker 1: you know, especially like because it gives um you know what, say,
Speaker 1: it gives the siblings, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: that's security, you know what I'm saying, especially if they're
Speaker 1: all close, you know, sething, like when their parents is gone,
Speaker 1: y'all still got each other. So it's like, definitely, I've
Speaker 1: been seeing a lot of videos and reading about a
Speaker 1: lot of stuffs. Actually covered a lot of stories on
Speaker 1: my YouTube channel where families are fighting each other, they're
Speaker 1: shooting each other. Saw one dude stabbed his relative I
Speaker 1: think it was nephew or something at a repass. That's cruel.
Speaker 1: Do you guys ever experienced stuff like that where you're fighting,
Speaker 1: you know, at family gatherings and stuff like that. Has
Speaker 1: ever gotten that bad man? None of my none of
Speaker 1: my family gatherings having their ever been a fight, like
Speaker 1: at least amongst the family members. Like it might have
Speaker 1: been like somebody somebody else that got into it with,
Speaker 1: but like not that I can recall. Like, my family
Speaker 1: has never liked really um a getting like that, and
Speaker 1: they get and they drink and get drunk too, you
Speaker 1: know I'm saying, but they always just I mean, there's
Speaker 1: always no how to carey yourself, you knowing, Like for
Speaker 1: some reason, I've I've never witnessed any of those things
Speaker 1: that any family gather and I've been to. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I've seen arguments, you know, send amongst people, but I've
Speaker 1: never seen to get physical to where like a whole
Speaker 1: brawl you know what I'm saying, comes out and like
Speaker 1: you're shooting with them to the point to where you
Speaker 1: want to kill him. It's like, no, no, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is, and it happens a lot today, Like
Speaker 1: for real, Yeah, it happened at a repass in my
Speaker 1: family about four months ago. Wow, it was a shooting.
Speaker 1: Nobody got hit, but the fact that it happened mm
Speaker 1: hmm yeah definitely here man, it's I was like, goddamn,
Speaker 1: well this is crazy. It's madness, man, Like where do
Speaker 1: people I've seen some woman killed her sons, shot him twice,
Speaker 1: like shot him once he was he had she she
Speaker 1: she said that he stole some type of like a
Speaker 1: tracking device or something like that out of her car
Speaker 1: something and she put a gun on him and shot
Speaker 1: him I think in the leg or something on. So
Speaker 1: the boy was crying and stuff like that. So she
Speaker 1: continued to shake him down, like she was drilling him,
Speaker 1: like where is it? He wouldn't tell her, And I
Speaker 1: guess I don't know if he didn't tell her because
Speaker 1: he was just with older information. He just didn't know.
Speaker 1: And she shot him in the head. What her own child?
Speaker 1: And then I covered the sturdy the other day with
Speaker 1: this dude shot his mama, killed his mama. They was
Speaker 1: arguing and he killed his mama. I'm like, I just
Speaker 1: don't remember ever being that mad at my mama where
Speaker 1: I wanted to shoot her. No. Ever, that's crazy, man, Ever,
Speaker 1: like forever. So you grew up in a religious household,
Speaker 1: you get up as a Jehovah Witness, right, man, how
Speaker 1: do you go from Jehovah witness to being in the
Speaker 1: one of the most I guess I was about to
Speaker 1: say notorious, but yeah, really is not notorious, you know,
Speaker 1: but but you but you are, but you are street
Speaker 1: and you are uh well known popular group, and we
Speaker 1: know Jehovah Witnesses don't believe in that popular stuff. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: So how do you go from Jehovah Witness? I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just what I um, That's just what
Speaker 1: I um. We're saying about you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like me just rebelling and just wanted to go see
Speaker 1: things for myself. You know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like now, it's it's what I think. I didn't see
Speaker 1: it in the world to where I but oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll see exactly what they were saying. It's true. It's
Speaker 1: all of everything that I was told about the world
Speaker 1: and how it acts and interacts. It's true. It's a
Speaker 1: cold world doesn't care about you. I don't think the
Speaker 1: world loves you. All that is true, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it was like, um, but being young
Speaker 1: and hardheaded, you wouldn't figure those things out on your own,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying it. And like I said,
Speaker 1: you want to hit doing brick walls on your own.
Speaker 1: That's why I say how I had I really liked
Speaker 1: dug into that knowledge that that that was being fair
Speaker 1: to me because back then, you know, like me being
Speaker 1: uh Joe's witness, I was young and you know, the
Speaker 1: the information was only reaching the surface. I wouldn't like
Speaker 1: really sitting there, you know, you know I would. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be at the I would be in the Bible
Speaker 1: Service meeting it's like just looking at the clock saying
Speaker 1: how long? How long? Is this gonna tell you what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But when I got older and started like
Speaker 1: going back and like reading up and seeing I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's really very very logical, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it was like and like I said,
Speaker 1: a lot of what they were saying was true. So
Speaker 1: it was just like I just thought to like look
Speaker 1: at things like in a different light, you know I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: look at them things in a different light. And just
Speaker 1: grew up mentally, man Like just trying to grow up
Speaker 1: like mentally and just like look at things different. So
Speaker 1: where what's your relationship now with Jehovah Witness? Well, right now,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a Jehovah's Witness. I'm not bopatized,
Speaker 1: but I still, you know what I'm saying, I still study,
Speaker 1: I still study with them, but you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like and um man, just trying to you know, just
Speaker 1: trying to gain this much knowledge as I can and
Speaker 1: compared to what's going on in the world, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And just that's just how I'm comparing it.
Speaker 1: Like seeing what's real and what ain't real? For real,
Speaker 1: I should ask this question, but what is Jehovah? Like? What? What? What? Uh? What?
Speaker 1: Just the meeting of Jehovah's witness with Jehovah. Jehovah is
Speaker 1: actually if you go go back and do the research,
Speaker 1: it's actually the name of God. Everybody like thinks that
Speaker 1: God is God's actual name, but it's not. It's just
Speaker 1: a title. God actually has a name, and God says that, like,
Speaker 1: in order to really know him, we have to know
Speaker 1: his name. And his name is Jehovah. And like his
Speaker 1: name I used to actually be on the money back
Speaker 1: in ancient times, but they removed it. They removed his
Speaker 1: name from the Bible, like his name was in the
Speaker 1: Bible over seven thousand times, but they removed his name
Speaker 1: and they replaced his name with titles like Lord and
Speaker 1: God and Almighty and stuff like that. So they tried
Speaker 1: to how they identity of who God really is. So
Speaker 1: that's what your witnesses are. But Muslims say that his
Speaker 1: name is a lie. But if you look at the
Speaker 1: if you look at the if you look at the
Speaker 1: the definition for a lot of the translation for a
Speaker 1: lie translate God. Yeah, that's not it. It ain't. That's
Speaker 1: a title. A lie is a title. It's not a
Speaker 1: personal name, just like a king or you know, a
Speaker 1: king or president. Those are titles. So let's say I'm
Speaker 1: a Christian, Well, let's say I'm a man of God,
Speaker 1: and uh, I just don't believe in this Jehovah thing.
Speaker 1: But I believe in God, I just don't. I have
Speaker 1: a difference in opinion on what exactly his name is.
Speaker 1: Can I get to Heaven? Yeah? What? What the what
Speaker 1: the thing is? Like? Joe's just don't like you don't
Speaker 1: like tell people, don't They don't try to persuade people
Speaker 1: like what they should or shouldn't be, or tell you
Speaker 1: that you're not going to heaven and hell. Jehovah's witnesses
Speaker 1: don't even have the it's crazy, it's not crazy. But
Speaker 1: they have the belief that only a hundred and forty
Speaker 1: or four thousand chosen people are going to heaven and
Speaker 1: the rest of the people ares are supposed who God
Speaker 1: chooses is supposed to remain on Earth forever in a
Speaker 1: different situation though not like we see the earth now,
Speaker 1: but like in different circumstances because God's original purpose when
Speaker 1: he created us was the man to live forever on earth.
Speaker 1: The only reason that was messed up is because what
Speaker 1: the devil done and like the monkey wrench he threw
Speaker 1: in the game. So but it says that God's are
Speaker 1: really no purpose has never changed. He still wants humans
Speaker 1: to live forever on Earth and turn it into a
Speaker 1: paradise eventually. And he said that that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: So if only a hundred and forty four thousand people
Speaker 1: can make it into heaven, how many do you think
Speaker 1: of that right now? Wherever that haveing? Is? How many?
Speaker 1: How many people? What? What are the Jehovah Witness is
Speaker 1: saying the county is right no, no, no, well was
Speaker 1: for angels, like you don't said, God says, it's just
Speaker 1: just mirriads and myriads of angels. That's billions and bigger
Speaker 1: love angels. But um, as far as the husband and
Speaker 1: forty four thousand, like, we have no clue as to
Speaker 1: how many have what the county is died and when
Speaker 1: you don't saying like you don't know if it's one
Speaker 1: a hundred and forty three thousand, nine hundred nine and
Speaker 1: nine thousands. But but but they basically go by what
Speaker 1: the scriptures said. The scriptures say that it was a
Speaker 1: hundred forty four thousand, So that's the number that you
Speaker 1: don't say. That's the number they're good with pretty much.
Speaker 1: So all you people out that is trying to make
Speaker 1: it here, and I'm gonna let y'all know right now,
Speaker 1: ain't enoughing room for all to y'all. I don't care
Speaker 1: what y'all got going on. I don't care how faithful
Speaker 1: you've been. Some of y'all ain't gonna make it. But see,
Speaker 1: this is the thing though, like se conceived that people
Speaker 1: people lack the understanding of what God's original purpose would
Speaker 1: God's original purpose was for people to live forever on earth.
Speaker 1: You don't want to live forever on earth. They want
Speaker 1: to dying over to heaven. But but like if if
Speaker 1: if if they but see they you have to understand
Speaker 1: what the conditions on earth would be. It's not going
Speaker 1: to be like we see it, like like God made
Speaker 1: us like like like when he made this, we were
Speaker 1: never supposed to grow old, to die, gets sick. None
Speaker 1: of this was supposed to happen. We're supposed to live
Speaker 1: eternally forever like and what messed it up again when
Speaker 1: when Adam and Eve chose to they chose to be disobedient,
Speaker 1: be disobedient, but they were influenced by the devil, and
Speaker 1: God told them, like you know what, saying like like,
Speaker 1: y'all can have ever lasting life all this if you
Speaker 1: don't just just don't eat from this trick. So the
Speaker 1: reason why is because they willingly chose. They willingly chose
Speaker 1: to just a big God. The devil influenced them, but
Speaker 1: he didn't make them. He didn't make him like he
Speaker 1: influenced them, and they thought he told them that they
Speaker 1: would be like God, and they believed it, and they
Speaker 1: ate the fruit and they do. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: what's happening right now in society. A lot of evil,
Speaker 1: wicked people at the top who are sending orders down
Speaker 1: and saying, this is how y'all need to behave, this
Speaker 1: is what you need to support, this is what you
Speaker 1: need to be doing, and if you don't do it,
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna wreak havoc on you. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: bad for you if you don't jump on board. You
Speaker 1: must think the way we want you to think. And
Speaker 1: if you don't do that then we're gonna do this
Speaker 1: to you. And a lot of people seem to be
Speaker 1: so afraid of the boogeyman that they'll compromise whatever morals
Speaker 1: they do have so that they they're not exiled, you know,
Speaker 1: so that they're not ostracized. Yeah, it's hard. Why do
Speaker 1: you think it's so hard for people to stand for
Speaker 1: something like they say? Okay, I see a lot of
Speaker 1: people changing their their views and their morals based on
Speaker 1: society or norms, whatever society says, that's what we're doing now.
Speaker 1: Then they just switched. No matter what they thought or
Speaker 1: how they felt. It didn't happen internally for them. It's
Speaker 1: just something that they saw that they heard they tuck
Speaker 1: in from Because man, that that goes to show that
Speaker 1: people need a leader. God created us, like God created
Speaker 1: us to depend on him. But we're depending on humans
Speaker 1: and that ain't working. It ain't never worked. We keep
Speaker 1: listening to what they say. Humans have lied to us
Speaker 1: over and over again. God has not lied to us
Speaker 1: one time. Everything that he said, what's going to happen
Speaker 1: and it comes true has happened. And and choose there
Speaker 1: is evidence. I guarantee you the things in the Bible
Speaker 1: can be proven. I guarantee you. And like we constantly
Speaker 1: give man these chances over and over again, they constantly
Speaker 1: slap us in the face, constantly go down to these
Speaker 1: pose and you vote over and over again for these
Speaker 1: empty promises. I don't care who it is. If they're humans,
Speaker 1: they cannot that. They cannot change what's going in on.
Speaker 1: Man is in over their end, over their heads, is
Speaker 1: already beyond them. What's going on in the world now.
Speaker 1: They cannot reverse what's going on right now. The only
Speaker 1: person that's going to change this is God. That's bottom line.
Speaker 1: Like and and people need, people need a leader. But
Speaker 1: they're following the wrong They they they they following man,
Speaker 1: which is the wrong leader. Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because man don't even know how to lead itself. They can't.
Speaker 1: Like these these people that's leading us, the people in
Speaker 1: the White House, they they still be so busy arguing
Speaker 1: amongst themselves and they ain't got time to tend to us.
Speaker 1: They arguing about power, what we need. That they don't
Speaker 1: give a damn about what we need because they they're
Speaker 1: focuses on who's going to keep the power. That's all
Speaker 1: they care about. And in the meantime, all the people suffer,
Speaker 1: but they keep playing this game with us, going and
Speaker 1: vote for this one. He got your back, No, we don't,
Speaker 1: And it ain't that. Some of these people ain't got
Speaker 1: your back when they give vote, it ain't nothing they
Speaker 1: can do because when they get in, you get all
Speaker 1: these other people over here fighting against what they want
Speaker 1: to do, and it never gets done. So we played
Speaker 1: this cycle. This cycle goes on and on and on, bro,
Speaker 1: and people keep voting for the same cycle instead of like, Okay,
Speaker 1: look I'm gonna just wait for God. I'm not you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like I don't see what y'all
Speaker 1: going to do. Like I don't see what y'all can do.
Speaker 1: It's nothing since the beginning, since man has rude over man,
Speaker 1: it has been nothing period. It ain't nothing they can do.
Speaker 1: Man said a mouthful with that one exactly. There's nothing
Speaker 1: they can do. So do you vote? No, not even locally. No,
Speaker 1: don't vote, don't get involved with politics, don't because there's
Speaker 1: nothing they can do. It's it's it's like I heard
Speaker 1: people saying, you know, um not where it ain't no
Speaker 1: good candidates, So I just picked my poison. So so
Speaker 1: so so you mean to tell me like this, this, this,
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff is life change, and like it's
Speaker 1: like that's that's you wouldn't go to purchase a house
Speaker 1: and they had two options that you didn't like, you
Speaker 1: would wait till you found the option that you like.
Speaker 1: Like God, God has already given us that option. We
Speaker 1: just overlook it, the option that's been there. These people
Speaker 1: that pose up here, man, all they do is lie
Speaker 1: to us. They know, they know they cannot help people
Speaker 1: the way they say care. So so hey we must
Speaker 1: get in and get we can get out of it
Speaker 1: while we can everybody else's to do it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think on a local level, and I do vote, but
Speaker 1: I think especially on local, local, local levels. I think
Speaker 1: that if you want to see some media immediate change
Speaker 1: on a local level, uh, you can move the needle.
Speaker 1: You can really move the needle on on a local
Speaker 1: level because local local politicians, Uh, you can walk right
Speaker 1: up to them when you have an issue and say, hey,
Speaker 1: I need this done. Moan won't. And that's not as
Speaker 1: much red tape to get things done. And so like
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen I've actually seen it done. I've
Speaker 1: seen it in the move many many times I've actually
Speaker 1: been able to make make the phone call and say hey, uh,
Speaker 1: I need this one wump and then the next day
Speaker 1: it's done the same thing with with me giving advice
Speaker 1: to certain people who need that needle to move, who
Speaker 1: needs somebody in that position to make a decision, we
Speaker 1: can get those decisions made, I mean almost immediately, whereas
Speaker 1: on a national level, Uh, you know, these guys are
Speaker 1: pretty much running popularity contest, and they're just they're like
Speaker 1: the boss. They're like the boss of the business who
Speaker 1: comes in and just do a walk through. You don't
Speaker 1: really do any work. They say this, that, this could,
Speaker 1: what's happening, what we did, how much money we need? Uh,
Speaker 1: we always do it like this. We do it like that,
Speaker 1: and then you know, uh, and then when things go bad,
Speaker 1: he just shows up as the face too get people
Speaker 1: inspired or whatever, to rally the base or whatever. But
Speaker 1: other than that, he really does nothing. And to me,
Speaker 1: I personally just believe that president's popularity contest, it's it's
Speaker 1: all about the guy who you can stand and look
Speaker 1: at and listen to for the next four day years
Speaker 1: because they all have they are there's an agenda, right,
Speaker 1: and they got to get in line with that agenda,
Speaker 1: and if they don't, they're gonna get their heads knocked off.
Speaker 1: They ain't. None of them as cold as as we
Speaker 1: think they are, None of them is powerful as we
Speaker 1: think they are. Yes, they have some influence, they have
Speaker 1: major influence, but they're gonna get more out of their
Speaker 1: presidency for them then we are gonna get from them
Speaker 1: being president. They got That's why every time. That's why.
Speaker 1: You'll have somebody that's a billionaire who will run for
Speaker 1: president and put himself under all that scrutiny and have
Speaker 1: his light shine on his family and we get an
Speaker 1: answer people and people talking about them, calling them names,
Speaker 1: death threats and all that stuff. While with somebody who
Speaker 1: is a billionaire run for a position that only pays
Speaker 1: a half a million dollars and they're under all that
Speaker 1: scrutiny and they have people attacking them on a daily
Speaker 1: bay people want them dead. That's because they're going in
Speaker 1: there for the bridge exactly. They want that money, but
Speaker 1: in the sacrifice that you know what they're doing it for,
Speaker 1: like for real, they go there, they're going in for
Speaker 1: the bread man. Just like you said, it's crazy, yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: And I get what you're saying, like on the local level,
Speaker 1: it is good, you know what I'm saying. It's good
Speaker 1: to have those outlines because of what you know, I
Speaker 1: have a nonprofita organization cause spread the love that I'm
Speaker 1: trying to build a bone. Threesn't hard. Harmony academy like
Speaker 1: schools are like we're teaching like these these these junctions
Speaker 1: like skills of the industry and just like not only
Speaker 1: like music industry skilled, but life skills this period. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It's just like so so I've
Speaker 1: been like shaking hands with a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: like counselman and like the merits and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But the but, but but the thing is, I'm careful
Speaker 1: not to become too indulge with it. You know, I
Speaker 1: understand that I have to go through these people, and
Speaker 1: I explain to people, you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: I cannot. I've been asked several times times to endorse
Speaker 1: this one of that one, and I had to decline.
Speaker 1: But I was able to still keep the relationship with
Speaker 1: them because they're respectfully you know, they understood the angle
Speaker 1: I was coming from. You know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 1: so far it's worked for me, you know I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but I don't plan to like go out and vote
Speaker 1: for anybody or like take any side. I'm going to
Speaker 1: remain neutral, man, because it's just like I said, Like,
Speaker 1: it's like, um, I understand they're like at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, Like just like I was saying earlier,
Speaker 1: like God is the only one that can undo everything
Speaker 1: that man has done. Like it's just like that's just
Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, that's just how it is.
Speaker 1: And I'll be willing to bet my life on it
Speaker 1: that it's not gonna happen until he steps it. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about Easy, Yeah your mentor Easy was one of
Speaker 1: the pioneers of hip hop. Yeah great, one of the
Speaker 1: greatest to ever do what he did, and in an
Speaker 1: executive position, he he created two of the greatest groups
Speaker 1: of all times. Easy gave us in w A and Bones.
Speaker 1: Doesn't harmony in your group, dude. You guys saw that
Speaker 1: out Easy specifically to sign to his label. Usually when
Speaker 1: somebody's trying to get on, they don't care who exactly,
Speaker 1: they just want to get on. But y'all saw it
Speaker 1: out Easy Eat for why specifically why Easy Man? It
Speaker 1: was just like you know, because we was into um Man,
Speaker 1: we was into like the you know, I mean we
Speaker 1: we we We was raised off the East Coast hip hop.
Speaker 1: You know, we was raised off that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um that's where I love for it came from.
Speaker 1: But when when Easy and Easy and in w A
Speaker 1: came out on the West Coast, just like we related
Speaker 1: to them like more than we did with the East
Speaker 1: Coast because like we was living that lifestyle. We was
Speaker 1: out there like hustling. We was like we were attracted
Speaker 1: to that lifestyle for some reason, way more than the
Speaker 1: East Coast. So that's what we started, you know, like
Speaker 1: we we we we became big fans of n w
Speaker 1: A and Easy and we followed everything they did. And
Speaker 1: when they went through the breakup and you know, Cube
Speaker 1: left and then Dr Dre left and then Easy was
Speaker 1: looking like the underdog, we was like, yeah, we want
Speaker 1: to go sign with the We want to go sign
Speaker 1: with the underdog. You know what I'm saying. Because everybody
Speaker 1: was like you know what I'm saying that everybody was
Speaker 1: this and the East. So we're like, yo, man, Easy
Speaker 1: needs somebody on his team. So yaas y'all was trying
Speaker 1: to get on ye rappers. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: y'all was down to put in some work for Easy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, bro for real, bro, like no, like Easy
Speaker 1: had to tell us like to chill out so many times,
Speaker 1: like yo, y'all, y'all just chill out. I don't want
Speaker 1: y'all involved when none of his beef stuff got a
Speaker 1: whole different playing for y'all, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: so he really kept us out of that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know it was it was it was altercations. It
Speaker 1: was verbal altercations. We had you know what she read
Speaker 1: into this one of that one. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But nothing really like nothing
Speaker 1: really physical really ever jumped off, you know. I thank
Speaker 1: God because you know what I mean, Me and corrupt.
Speaker 1: We talked about this all the time, like how we
Speaker 1: really would have liked tried to take one of them,
Speaker 1: you know, like each other's head off at that time,
Speaker 1: like if someone would have jumped off, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it was like glad nothing jumped off
Speaker 1: like that. So blessing for real, Yeah, tell us something
Speaker 1: about it, Easy, Since we had a such a short time,
Speaker 1: but Easy, you know, Easy died. I think Easy was
Speaker 1: thirty one when he died or something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's Easy was very young, damn. And it
Speaker 1: still tripped me out that he was so young when
Speaker 1: he died because he was so knowledgeable. He was so
Speaker 1: so hit a hit of his time, definitely, And so
Speaker 1: we don't really have a lot of personal moments Easy.
Speaker 1: Tell us something on a personal level of personal moment
Speaker 1: that you add with Easy that would probably like you know,
Speaker 1: just uh maybe surprised people or yeah, just something that
Speaker 1: would that would uh you know, inspire people, or just
Speaker 1: something that you think that would be cool for people
Speaker 1: to know about him. Man. I just man, I just
Speaker 1: think you know, it was just um. He was just
Speaker 1: like a real like lay back, like quiet dude, quiet
Speaker 1: to the point of like you know what, something like
Speaker 1: he like on some sneaky ship, like always pull otting
Speaker 1: on the next move. He was a hell of a visionary.
Speaker 1: He was always thinking about the vision you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like like people don't even know like our
Speaker 1: first our first album cover, our first ep, like people
Speaker 1: don't have come up. He shot all those pictures like
Speaker 1: we used to be in the car with the nig
Speaker 1: and the niggle like he would he would pull over
Speaker 1: and be like, y'all get out the cargo still over him,
Speaker 1: like like we get off the car and go still
Speaker 1: over there and ship. We'd be like okay, and you
Speaker 1: put out this digital camera and like they had like
Speaker 1: going up on roofs and see each other. But he
Speaker 1: was okay, now y'all running running, Y're running from the police,
Speaker 1: and took off the roof and we and the more
Speaker 1: people like running in the most, like jumping off the
Speaker 1: sit like he had us out there life and he
Speaker 1: shot like everything, like the covers, like even even the
Speaker 1: album cover, the creeping on the come up of us
Speaker 1: like standing there, we we shot. He shot those pictures
Speaker 1: of us at his video shoot for that song. Um
Speaker 1: any last words, I think it was he shot that
Speaker 1: those pictures at at his video shoot and that was
Speaker 1: the album cover. Like so he was a real vision
Speaker 1: name like all that, like all that stuff that was
Speaker 1: inside our albums, Like I tell people, like all that
Speaker 1: all that mysterious crazy ship that we didn't know what
Speaker 1: the hell they were. He had all that ship in
Speaker 1: the album going out on the on the inside of
Speaker 1: the album cover. Last his vision was like crazy. And
Speaker 1: he always told us like when he first like like
Speaker 1: we knew we we knew he was into us when
Speaker 1: we first got the county, when he when he paid
Speaker 1: for us to come back to county after we met him,
Speaker 1: and he paid for us to come back to California,
Speaker 1: and we went to the office and the girl there
Speaker 1: was the receptionist who actually hooked it up for us
Speaker 1: to talk to him like we were. We went in
Speaker 1: there and she was like, oh, ship, we heard y'all
Speaker 1: supposed to be the ship. You know what since we
Speaker 1: looked into it like oh ship, easy saying everybody were
Speaker 1: the ship, you know what I'm saying, Like, so we
Speaker 1: was hyped. So he knew from the jump, like he
Speaker 1: that's why he told us like I don't want y'all
Speaker 1: in no drama. Y'all gonna be on a whole different
Speaker 1: level than anybody in this music ship, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, so just stay focused on that funk,
Speaker 1: all that street ship now, all that whenever it was
Speaker 1: in the past. Just stay focused on this. That's just
Speaker 1: the PAS. But you know, of course us young, we're
Speaker 1: like okay, man, cool, cool, fuck that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we're on this dumb ship right now, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, but yeah, man, he would,
Speaker 1: he would. He was that dude. And by him like
Speaker 1: dying so fast, like you know, we were we was
Speaker 1: only went in for like a year or maybe even
Speaker 1: less than that before he passed away. So it was
Speaker 1: it was real crazy for us because it was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we woman that we're struggling. Next minute we made Easy.
Speaker 1: We had the number one single on the radio. Next
Speaker 1: minute he did, so it was like, oh ship, this
Speaker 1: then came and went like then he was like it
Speaker 1: was it was crazy. We didn't know what was you know,
Speaker 1: like what was in the plans for us, and like
Speaker 1: it was just crazy. It was. It was. It was
Speaker 1: a real crazy moment at that time. Where were you
Speaker 1: when you found out Easy was dead? Man? I was.
Speaker 1: I was in Cleveland because we had just got like
Speaker 1: our first uh they gave us like our first it
Speaker 1: was advanced checks advancement. We got like like like almost
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: like to us, we see we ain't never at the
Speaker 1: dance we go back to that. I was like we
Speaker 1: balled and like yeah, yeah, no, no peace. You know
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like so we go back, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that we go back, and like we like
Speaker 1: don't even understand how much money we had, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, so I'm at home and like
Speaker 1: like stuff was just funny because we would be calling
Speaker 1: easy and like like nobody told us what was going on,
Speaker 1: Like they just told us that he was you know,
Speaker 1: he wasn't around because when they gave us the checks,
Speaker 1: he didn't even give us the checks. Like some attorney
Speaker 1: Ryan Sweeney, he came and he gave us the checks
Speaker 1: and they was talking some crazy ship to us, like
Speaker 1: trying to manipulating brain was he was like give us
Speaker 1: a guy damn checks and saying like we didn't listen
Speaker 1: to none of that ship where it's easy. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: we're like words easier and we're like they're like, um,
Speaker 1: but they never told us. So then I'm at I'm
Speaker 1: at the house with my um with my girl at
Speaker 1: the time, and like she could you know, she she
Speaker 1: from l A. And like she get a car from
Speaker 1: one of her home girls in Cleveland, I mean in
Speaker 1: l A. And she's like yo, they they saying out here.
Speaker 1: The Easy got aids out here on the news and
Speaker 1: and and asked me. I was like, I ain't heard
Speaker 1: it about it. So the very next day I turned
Speaker 1: on MTV news and I see the dude like, you know,
Speaker 1: like talking about Easy about him being hospitalized with with
Speaker 1: full blown a's and I'm like, yo, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. It was crazy, like so my phone
Speaker 1: could the ring and blowing off the hook. Everybody's calling.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, it was crazy, and wishing lay
Speaker 1: Wishing Lazy. They were still in California at the time,
Speaker 1: and they even went to the hospital of the scene
Speaker 1: and then they said they barely got in because they
Speaker 1: wouldn't letting nobody in the same I guess the family
Speaker 1: headed on lockdown. They woudn't let nobody in and it
Speaker 1: was just crazy. Mm hmm. Was there a funeral, Phazy?
Speaker 1: I can't remember. Yeah, yeah, it was the funeral. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't, I didn't go to the field. I think
Speaker 1: uh some of the members went to the funeral. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sad, day man. Yeah, that's sad. I know that
Speaker 1: you were hard hitting basically like you you want them
Speaker 1: type of Peters persons and don't matter what somebody said.
Speaker 1: You gotta see it for yourself. You gotta find that
Speaker 1: they tell you something bad, don't do this. You gotta
Speaker 1: find that for yourself because they have a moment where
Speaker 1: Easy pull you to the side. It was like listen,
Speaker 1: crazy man, look you gotta do it this. Well. Uh,
Speaker 1: when he warned you about something, you know and you
Speaker 1: know you behavior or whatever. Man, he was always tending.
Speaker 1: He would always be like, man, y'all niggas need to
Speaker 1: come down because now we were so hyper and like
Speaker 1: we was like, um, we were just just didn't know
Speaker 1: what to expect. And you know, like I mean, we
Speaker 1: even flipped on him one time about five thou dollars
Speaker 1: we did a show or Easy about five dollars you know,
Speaker 1: because like we did a show and we knew we
Speaker 1: were supposed to get paid, but we never get paid,
Speaker 1: and like we was like, yo, we flipped, like where's
Speaker 1: the money? And all the reason we flipped because like
Speaker 1: you know, you know, the rumor that was going around,
Speaker 1: you know, like Easy, what's like you know, he was
Speaker 1: doing his homies or whatnot. So like that ship, that
Speaker 1: ship was in our head. We was like, yo, funk
Speaker 1: that we ain't gonna be played like that. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying That we like blew the ship all
Speaker 1: out of proportion, man, and the money who happened had
Speaker 1: already been like secure for us, and like we just
Speaker 1: didn't understand the whole business ship like so like he
Speaker 1: just told us a lot, like while he was here,
Speaker 1: Man just told us, like, you know, like to just
Speaker 1: count down. It was to the point where we'd be
Speaker 1: walking in the mall with him and like dudes would
Speaker 1: be staring and we, man, what's these nis looking at
Speaker 1: like ready to fight this day? And easily black man
Speaker 1: ain't looking at y'all, they're looking at me. But you're right,
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right, you're right. Just crazy like that,
Speaker 1: Like that's how wild we was and just like just
Speaker 1: like it's just crazy. For clarity, let's go back to
Speaker 1: this guy. I think he said he was an attorney,
Speaker 1: guy named Sneedy sneety or something like that, sneety Ron
Speaker 1: Ron Sweeney, Oh, Ron Sweeney. Yeah, So he tried to
Speaker 1: turn y'all again it's easy, not basically turn this against easy.
Speaker 1: He came in talking to us like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, talking to us like he was the new
Speaker 1: person and and play. Now you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be seeing a lot of me ruthless records.
Speaker 1: Is gonna be doing going in this direction and be
Speaker 1: like Nigga, who then is you? We we can't talk
Speaker 1: to you the whole time we've been here, Who is you? Like,
Speaker 1: we didn't even understand why you're the one that's giving
Speaker 1: us these checks, but we'll take them, I'm saying, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know his phone calls after that, yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but we we I mean, I mean we had to
Speaker 1: deal with him because we found out that this was
Speaker 1: you know, after you know, his wife took over the
Speaker 1: company to mecause this was her attorney for a while.
Speaker 1: So you know, we ended up having to deal with
Speaker 1: him for a while, you know what I'm saying, Which
Speaker 1: was really like those whole everything after that after the
Speaker 1: easy passed was was was very rocky with the label
Speaker 1: most of the time. Did you have personal conversations with
Speaker 1: Tamika there? Yeah, we did, but but you know, I
Speaker 1: think um may again about us being young not understanding
Speaker 1: the BIS and this we was just like very biased,
Speaker 1: just like who was this bitch? Like we're not about
Speaker 1: to listen to you, who is you? Like, no, like
Speaker 1: we we when feeling what's going on. So it's like
Speaker 1: that kind of took the relationship to where we rebelled
Speaker 1: and they was like okay, Sucky was saying, and it
Speaker 1: was just like that kind of relationship for a while
Speaker 1: until we had to come to terms with them and
Speaker 1: like just make the ship work to move forward. Right,
Speaker 1: So up until that moment, you really didn't know to
Speaker 1: because y'all hadn't met before. I mean we met it
Speaker 1: before because Easy had took us to his house, you know,
Speaker 1: like for barbecue, any business. No no, no, no, no, right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this show you used to have on YouTube,
Speaker 1: Truth of Talks, right, So that was a conspiracy show, right, No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a conspiracy. So so this is what I
Speaker 1: tell everybody. I started off going down this road of
Speaker 1: the conspiracy, like looking into these things and like you know,
Speaker 1: like I started talking about them. But as I did
Speaker 1: further research, man, you know what I'm saying, I started
Speaker 1: to see like that some of these things has never
Speaker 1: been proven, some of these things are just speculation. Some
Speaker 1: of this stuff, you know what I'm saying. Like, so
Speaker 1: I backtracked and like changed the the concept and the
Speaker 1: content of the whole show to where like I'm basing
Speaker 1: it off like pure facts and things that I know
Speaker 1: to be true and things that are happening. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't want to go off speculation
Speaker 1: and leave nobody down the wrong path. And then you
Speaker 1: know that people be looking at me like I'm crazy.
Speaker 1: So I'm sticking with the facts of what you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, what's going on, Like some of that
Speaker 1: stuff is like crazy, but like I said, I've never
Speaker 1: seen no actual facts of some of this stuff. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't put it past these people to be doing this stuff,
Speaker 1: but again I've never seen it, like just just like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it past that there is a Illuminati,
Speaker 1: but again I've never met or seen nobody for the
Speaker 1: motherucking Illuminati that I know of, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like I said, so I don't know, but
Speaker 1: for real, So why do you stopped the show? Sounds
Speaker 1: like nothing, no no, no, no no, no, we didn't
Speaker 1: stop the show. We're in the middle of like switching networks.
Speaker 1: So so once I'm off with this twy with TLC
Speaker 1: and we go back to Kelly, like we're getting up
Speaker 1: to like spit out like some more episodes like definitely
Speaker 1: and not getting any pushed back from YouTube with that
Speaker 1: type of show, you know, I know they don't like
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. They red flagged a few episodes,
Speaker 1: like for sure. They they they read flagged a few
Speaker 1: of them and like blocks block some of the things.
Speaker 1: Like so it was like it was it was crazy.
Speaker 1: And then I learned at the time, anything you said
Speaker 1: about Trump, they were like waiting out. I hain't that something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, anything said about him, They're
Speaker 1: taken it like red flag. Immediately, I'm like, damn, okay,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Yeah, So are you you have any playing
Speaker 1: to like get into Hollywood besides I side up doing
Speaker 1: the show, you know, like man the movies or something
Speaker 1: like they seem like, man, do that movie thing. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you know, I want to like
Speaker 1: do do like a little bit of action. But they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying it really gotta I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do it, Like I'm not trying to be I don't
Speaker 1: nobody else's terms you know what I want to I
Speaker 1: want to be more on the production side of things
Speaker 1: and the directing side because I write scripts, I write
Speaker 1: like TV shows, like all types of stuff, you know saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm trying to do some stuff that
Speaker 1: like that I can't control because the end of life
Speaker 1: and I had me looking like a buffoon. I'm looking
Speaker 1: like no eaty and looking like doing something I'm not,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, just going to ship and
Speaker 1: outs of my integrity, I'm not. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: care about the famous stuff all like that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like for all the money for
Speaker 1: that matter, Like so I'd rather just wait till I
Speaker 1: could do it like the way I want to do it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, really, any of your
Speaker 1: kids involved in the entertainment industry every lass like sing
Speaker 1: and like all the my boys wrapped like the into
Speaker 1: it to some capacity, like my two younger, like my
Speaker 1: two youngest are the only ones like my my my
Speaker 1: fourteen year old wants to be an actress, and my
Speaker 1: thirteen year old. She's the only one out of all
Speaker 1: of them that want to play sports, like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the only one at all of them.
Speaker 1: So I was like, it's great any kids that you
Speaker 1: have that wants to be a rapper or singer, but
Speaker 1: it ain't really good. Uh oh yeah and no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I I told them that when they wasn't good, and
Speaker 1: they actually got better, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: that that definitely got better because you know what I'm saying, like, man,
Speaker 1: it's hard when you have kids, you know, and even
Speaker 1: though they're my kids and I have a certain taste
Speaker 1: for music, they have their own identity and they came
Speaker 1: up in this generation, you know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 1: like this is what they relate to, you know what,
Speaker 1: Like we have to we have to keep that in mind,
Speaker 1: Like we can't control everything that they're seeing here. You know,
Speaker 1: like they they like this is their own generation. You know,
Speaker 1: they have to find themselves. They can't. They can't sound
Speaker 1: like me. That's why I never push none of my
Speaker 1: kids to be in music, none of them. I'll let
Speaker 1: them like come into that on their own, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, so now now that they're doing it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, like just just just trying to be original
Speaker 1: as you can, you know what I'm saying. And they
Speaker 1: like which but by them coming up in this genre,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's they got to find that balance
Speaker 1: of being original a sounding like everybody else. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get them to understand that sounding different is always
Speaker 1: doing no matter what everybody else is doing. Make everybody
Speaker 1: look at you, you know what I'm saying, Like for real, Like,
Speaker 1: don't just ride the way to make your own damn wave,
Speaker 1: Like for real, man, I can't even think of a
Speaker 1: better note to end this, this whole conversation on man,
Speaker 1: you said be different? Hey man, y'all did that? Did
Speaker 1: that bone one of the most unique groups, one of
Speaker 1: the best they ever do it? And you know you
Speaker 1: played a significant role in that, And we're we're grateful. Man.
Speaker 1: Man was love, bro. We got it from the best, y'all.
Speaker 1: Y'all boys, Man, we got it from we learned from
Speaker 1: the best. How y'all did it? Y'all? Was one of
Speaker 1: our favorites to go to boys in w A all
Speaker 1: day long, for real, broyeh No. At some point, you know,
Speaker 1: the people, the student becomes the teacher, A good student
Speaker 1: becomes to teacher exactly. Hey man, y'all, I'll teach us now. Man,
Speaker 1: They out there watching, y'all, they're listening from y'all. They
Speaker 1: learn it from y'all exactly. Yeah, Legacy secured Ladies and gentlemen,
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