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Speaker 2: That defender is in multiple pieces. Oh that was nasty

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Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover

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Speaker 1: the teams.

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Speaker 2: Drilled by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is balling, breaking on, break

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Speaker 2: it on. Swim to the ground by Puda Baker like

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Speaker 2: a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. I ain't

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Speaker 2: scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: I know time isn't necessarily of the essence here on

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Speaker 2: Cardinals Underground, Or maybe it is because I looked down

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Speaker 2: at my watch and we're approximately eleven minutes in past

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Speaker 2: the deadline for the Friday transactions to become official after

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Speaker 2: a Memorial Day weekend, meaning the Tuesday deadline has passed.

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Speaker 2: Darren Urban, as you look at your phone one last time.

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Speaker 3: It's quite rude on a podcast.

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Speaker 2: Danny surrec Darren Urban usually poly podcast over here. Just

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Speaker 2: want to make absolutely sure it's officially official that DeAndre

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Speaker 2: Hopkins has been released by the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't have the I don't have the transaction

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Speaker 4: list in front of them, law, but I could have

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Speaker 4: told you Friday at ten thirty that it was official official.

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Speaker 4: It might not have been gone through the machinations that

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Speaker 4: is the NFL, but I know this was a popular

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Speaker 4: topic Friday, especially all those other examples, and the biggest

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Speaker 4: one that a lot of people remembered around here was

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Speaker 4: when the Raiders were going to release Rodney Hudson and

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Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, instead of him being released,

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Speaker 4: he was traded to the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: That all happened because an NFL insider of some sort

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Speaker 4: said Rodney Hudson was going to be released. It was

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Speaker 4: not that the team announced the release. I can say

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Speaker 4: with one hundred percent certainty, and I thought and I

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Speaker 4: could have said this Friday had we been podcasting once.

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Speaker 4: Once the Cardinals put out the press release that DeAndre

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Speaker 4: Hopkins was going to be released, that was there was

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Speaker 4: no trade that was going to happen, even though that

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Speaker 4: there was this delay until Tuesday to have it officially

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Speaker 4: go down.

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Speaker 2: Danny, you understand my desire to make absolutely certain though,

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Speaker 2: because you know, A there's always gamesmanship going on in

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Speaker 2: weekend like as follows that there have already been more

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Speaker 2: than two dozen quote sightings of UFOs reported in Arizona

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Speaker 2: already this year. And by the way, we're ninth than

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Speaker 2: You know, you never quite know, so I want. I

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Speaker 2: think it's my job here Cardinals on the Ground, brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Pacific Office Automation, to be absolutely darn certain.

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Speaker 3: How'd you expect me to answer a question when you

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Speaker 2: Like that, Paul, I don't know if a more cheese.

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Speaker 2: I thought we specialized in UFO sightings ever since the

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Speaker 2: Phoenix Lights. How are we only ninth in UFO sightings

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three Arizona. Let's pick it up.

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Speaker 4: That's just being lazy a lot. It's about work ethic, Paul.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, maybe they're so common. Maybe UFO sightings

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Speaker 2: to make sure it's an official sitting.

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Speaker 3: You're looking at me, and I'm the last person you

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Speaker 4: I would love for Arizona to lead the nation in

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Speaker 3: Quite frankly, Okay, But going back to your question, I

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Speaker 3: do understand why you wanted to double check, because if

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Cardinals were getting either a what

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean the thing is for me, once we

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Speaker 4: There was nothing that was going to happen. Because a

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Speaker 4: And Albert Breyer reported some interesting stuff about where some

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Speaker 4: Chiefs and the Bills might have been even they even

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Speaker 4: seems to be a wide gap there and and any

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Speaker 3: And now what's interesting is he's signed with an agent,

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Speaker 4: And without getting too deep in the weeds, there's there

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Speaker 4: So he had to get somebody quote unquote legal with

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Speaker 2: And ultimately D hop is the decision maker. The D

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Speaker 2: with the Arizona Cardinals. You know, people ask about your

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Speaker 2: takeaways from DeAndre Hopkins and I'd say four words. Highly intelligent,

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Speaker 2: the latter half of that equation can work against you

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the team. I mean, you're talking

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Speaker 2: order number one the team number two. You. So with

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Speaker 4: I don't think it, but he's surprised at this point,

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Speaker 4: to be honest, I think the hurdle that people are

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Speaker 4: struggling with getting over is losing DeAndre Hopkins and getting

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Speaker 4: nothing in return. Now you can make arguments that they

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Speaker 4: did get something in return. They're going to get twenty

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Speaker 4: taking it all this year. You can talk about kind

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Speaker 4: of the addition by subtraction, by building a new culture.

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Speaker 4: You can talk about the reality that he clearly didn't

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Speaker 4: his thought process was keep them through camp, you keep

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Speaker 4: trade for him, and then cut them loose. But I

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Speaker 4: think this team, having gone through what they did last

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Speaker 4: trying to get a new culture in place, with a

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Speaker 3: And they're not necessarily correlated by too. If you're trying

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Speaker 3: some degree, right, like, where are you going to put

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Speaker 3: your focus? I do think, Darren, is probably a question

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Speaker 3: And I was seeing at least online people asking why

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Speaker 4: The Cardinals have actually actually worked this out. This came

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Speaker 4: with JJ Watt and Rodney Hudson, they took those two

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Speaker 4: With where they are, I'm not sure they want to

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Speaker 4: You know. You just take your medicine and move on

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Speaker 4: from from DeAndre Hopkins, who had he stayed on the team.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I think his cap hit.

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Speaker 2: Was supposed to be thirty thirty point eight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I mean you did save some cap space,

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Speaker 4: and the reality is this, you don't. Cap space is

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Speaker 4: So you're not paying him anymore. And there was the

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Speaker 4: lot of things that go into this. Again, understand the

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Speaker 4: good of a player is and was he an asset

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Speaker 4: you could have gotten something from. Yes, However, he is

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Speaker 4: And I think you're seeing that with the NFL. Another

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Speaker 4: can get something back. Well, is it worth the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: higher pick for ten million in cash. But I get it.

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Speaker 2: You're essentially buying a draft pick if you're going to

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Speaker 4: And I don't think there were teams you're going to

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Speaker 4: for DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 2: Right now, let me go back about four points ago.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm monologuing, and I apologize for.

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Speaker 2: That to where you said somebody on the media side

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna fit with most teams because he's

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Speaker 4: Again it's not a fun time. You don't want to

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Speaker 3: That's not just players, but also the business side of

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Speaker 4: Think to me it was the only one at this point, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously I'm the same way. I would have

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Speaker 3: And the further we got away from the draft, the

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Speaker 2: So what I'll be captain obvious if I said guess what,

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Speaker 2: that's nineteen point four five million dollars DeAndre hopkins real

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Speaker 2: up now to go to Buddha Baker.

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Speaker 3: I had that same thought to Paul.

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Speaker 2: So and the fact that Buddha. Look the anecdotal information

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Speaker 2: He's most definitely part of the solution going forward. And hence,

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Speaker 3: That's what I see happening. I don't think the front

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Speaker 2: Sorry, I always do that. That's the Dion Sanders for

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Speaker 2: cam I just do it for cam Cox.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, that's okay. I was just caught off guard.

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Speaker 4: You want to talk about UFOs again or something i'd.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to show up for training camp if

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Speaker 4: That from Mandatory Mini camp too.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Okay, fair he might be working on

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Speaker 3: And look, I think if you are a fan, that's

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Speaker 4: Well, I agree here comesistic dar not pessimistic. I do

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Speaker 4: left on the contract and probably not guaranteed money, so

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00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 4: you want to be careful about that stuff. But I

439
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 4: agree Buddha needs to be here and and I mean

440
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,719
Speaker 4: during the season. I mean I've been doing this for

441
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 4: a long long time. I've seen a handful of guys

442
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 4: not show up the voluntary camp. I know somebody's going

443
00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 4: to come after me for this one, but it usually

444
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 4: doesn't matter.

445
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: You have been here a long time. You celebrated a

446
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 3: big work milestone. There you last week fifteen years.

447
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: My favorite, though, was Kevin Bayard last week, the All

448
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 2: Pro safety and who makes almost the identical salary right

449
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: now of a Buddha baker, and Byered is actually holding

450
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: out a little bit from Titan's camp because I think

451
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 2: he sees the Drwin James market setting deal for safeties.

452
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 2: But my favorite was that Kevin Byrd ran into his

453
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: head coach Mike Rabol two Sundays ago at the country

454
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: club playing golf, and they didn't show up all week

455
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 2: for OTAs. So that's putting the voluntary into voluntary mini

456
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: camp or whatever you want to call it at this

457
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 2: point of the year. So that's the way a lot

458
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: of these veterans are approaching that.

459
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a reason why it's called voluntary. And

460
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 4: I know people argue this all the time, and it'd

461
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 4: be great if everybody was around all the time and

462
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 4: hanging out all the time, But some of these guys

463
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 4: don't want to do it. Some guys are older, some

464
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 4: guys have families they don't want to do it with.

465
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 4: Some guys like Buddha have right now an issue with

466
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 4: their own personal situation and they're using whatever leverage they can.

467
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 4: But my guess is, and I believe this in my heart.

468
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 4: When Jonathan Gannon says, we're not worried about Buddha and

469
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 4: he'll show up when he shows up, I believe they're

470
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 4: not worried about Buddha and he'll show up when he

471
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 4: shows up. Like I don't. I don't think coaches are

472
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 4: going crazy. If it's a younger guy, maybe, and again,

473
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 4: you want everybody around. But I think the coaches after

474
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 4: this many when I first started covering the league. Yeah,

475
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I remember Dennis Green making a big deal

476
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 4: about Troy Hambrick not showing up and that was voluntary,

477
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 4: and but those coaches really had a hard time not saying,

478
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 4: I don't care if it's voluntary, you need to be here.

479
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 4: I think the coaches these days, you know, Jonathan Gannon's

480
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 4: forty years old. I think they've been this is this

481
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 4: is the league they've been around, they've grown up in,

482
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 4: and they understand like this is how it's got to be.

483
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 2: And look, Buddha Baker is the one player on the team,

484
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 2: the one legitimate All Pro player on this roster they

485
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: can get away with not showing up. Let's be honest, explain.

486
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 3: What you mean by that, because I think I know

487
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 3: what you're saying.

488
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 2: It's a brand new coaching staff, it's a brand new

489
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: general manager and assistant general manager. There are a lot

490
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: of new eyes out on that field, evaluating and assessing

491
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: every single player, getting their own first impressions of everyone.

492
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 2: And so I think it behooves every single player to

493
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: be out there for that reason, for your own job

494
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: security and to put your best performance foot forward. In

495
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 2: this case, just because it is a new regime. And

496
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: my understanding is other than d Hop and Buddha Baker.

497
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 2: There has been complete attendance at this and I think

498
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 2: that part of that is because it's a new staff

499
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 2: out there now. There's a new schemes to learn, and

500
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: there's new verbiage and all that. I get it. And

501
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: you know that plays into it as well, because when

502
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: it comes time to put the pads on and really ball,

503
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 2: you better be playing and not thinking, so you better

504
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: know the system and the scheme cold. But in terms

505
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 2: of just sheer leverage other than Buddha Baker, I mean,

506
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 2: there isn't a guy in this team I think they

507
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: could get away with just sitting out and being away

508
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: from this without maybe risking his own standing with the

509
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: new regime, and not only.

510
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: That, knowing no question that they would show up physically

511
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 3: and mentally prepared when when they do come back.

512
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: It's funny. I do think there's a couple people that

513
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 4: could except all of those that I would think that

514
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 4: might be able to are hurt and have to be

515
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 4: here to rehab.

516
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 2: Anyways, Yes, yes, so, and I did think about that.

517
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: That does play in You're right, could.

518
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 4: I think do I think DJ Humphries could get away

519
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 4: with it? Probably? Do you think zach Ertz, Do I think, well,

520
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray's a whole different deal. But like, but those

521
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 4: guys are hurt and they have to be here to rehab.

522
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: So so and look, by the way, speaking of the

523
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 2: receiver group, what do you expect now that you have

524
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 2: some cash that you freed up? Do you expect another

525
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: receiver to be here between now and the start of

526
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 2: training camp in late July? I mean, Danny, where you

527
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: sit when you're looking at the roster and I had

528
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: to print it out over here just to keep track

529
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: of all the new names and numbers. What do you

530
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: make of this receiver room?

531
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Speaker 3: I think you can work with what you've got. I

532
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 3: think if you're asking, you know now that you have

533
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: maybe some more cap space because of releasing hop If

534
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 3: you're asking, you know, do I think they're gonna sign

535
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 3: a big veteran at wide receiver? I would say there

536
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 3: are other positions that require that attention more so than

537
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: a wide receiver. This wide receiver's room is going to

538
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: look different than last year. Really with size is the

539
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 3: main one of DeAndre Hopkins, Antoine Wesley aj Green. That

540
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 3: height not really there. Now the Cardinals have added a

541
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: few players Zach Pascal, some other you know, free agency

542
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 3: sign and brought in, so they're starting to add some size.

543
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 3: But you're your number one wide receiver is going to

544
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: be Hollywood Brown, and then I would think that Zach

545
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 3: Pascal is probably going to get a lot of work.

546
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: I think one of the reasons he did in Philly

547
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: was just from such a loaded receiver's room. But it

548
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,239
Speaker 3: seems like Gannon and this coaching staff who brought him

549
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 3: in really like what he can do outside of just

550
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: special teams in blocking. I'm a little I don't know

551
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 3: if that might be a little much. But Rondale Moore,

552
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: I don't think. I think he has the ability. It's

553
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: a question of can he stay healthy throughout the season.

554
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 3: And so that's kind of the question mark I have

555
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: in the receiver's room, is the durability of your now

556
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: number one wide receiver. Hollywood Brown wasn't healthy all last season.

557
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: Rondo Moore has had problems and that's pretty much it

558
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 3: in terms of consistency because Greg Dorts didn't get a

559
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 3: lot of playing time. So there's some question marks. I

560
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: do think it's you can work with it, but I'm

561
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 3: not sure that it's going to be the strength that

562
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 3: it had the potential of being last year.

563
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 4: I would agree, although hop missed so many games and

564
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 4: six right out of the box, I don't I don't know.

565
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 2: Rondale Moore missed nine.

566
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 4: I mean to be honest with this.

567
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: Wesley missed the whole year with aj Green? Was dnp

568
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: a couple of times? Sorry?

569
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 4: Dan, we go down the rabbit hole? I mean legitimately

570
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 4: or was anybody seriously thinking this receiving core is gonna

571
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 4: have DeAndre Hopkins. I don't think I ever got to

572
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 4: that point once we got to the off season.

573
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: So let's reset it. You got Hollywood Brown, you got

574
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: Rondel Moore, you got Greg Dorsch, Zach Pascal, the rookie,

575
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: Michael Wilson, I'm forgetting someone here and uh and so

576
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: and I got so. Look, you're gonna need Michael Wilson

577
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: to be that guy, I would think, or else you're

578
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: going to absolutely hit the open market for someone.

579
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: You're also gonna be what guy?

580
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: The guy and a rotation guy?

581
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah? Trust well, I think you're gonna I

582
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 4: think you're gonna be forced to trust a lot of

583
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 4: rookies this year, because that's what they're gonna do. I

584
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,239
Speaker 4: think they're gonna throw some guys into the deep end

585
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 4: and see what happens.

586
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: You're also gonna need a Trey McBride to step up.

587
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: Yep. Well, look it was Trey McBride who was on

588
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: the air last week with Wolf. He said, we're running

589
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: a lot of twelve and thirteen personnel. Okay, I think

590
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: you need more bodies in the tight end room. That's

591
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: the case. That's just me looking at I mean, you

592
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: talk about unproven there. There's a lot of names.

593
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: Although it'll be interesting to see. I mean, I do

594
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 4: think one of these undrafted rookies makes a team as

595
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 4: a tight end. And and the other thing too, is

596
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: we've we've focused so much on Kyler's timeline that nobody

597
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 4: talks about zach Ertz's timeline. True, and I know early

598
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 4: and that right after Gannon got hired, Zach was saying

599
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 4: that he really had strong hopes he would be ready

600
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 4: for the start of the regular season. So maybe that's

601
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 4: that's what the thought process is.

602
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: And look, here's he had another reason why I'm not

603
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: sure diap was part of the future with the Cardinals. Well,

604
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: let me let me stop qualifying it. He's no longer.

605
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: Part of the future of the Cardinals is to what

606
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: degree are these receivers going to be asked to be

607
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: part of the run game and blocking is going to

608
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,239
Speaker 2: be at a premium. There's definitely a reason why they

609
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: signed to Zach Pascal. Now only do I think he's

610
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: to the offense what a Kaizer was. It is to

611
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: the defense that guy who knows Jonathan Gannon and knows

612
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: he's gonna set the tone in terms of the effort

613
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: and the tenacity, the physicality. But here's a guy who

614
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: plays all the special teams and at six two two fifteen,

615
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: Zach Pascal is more than willing to put his body

616
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: on the line. I mean, if it's me and I'm

617
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: watching the Cardinals next year and you're wondering on third

618
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: and one which way they're gonna run the ball, They'll

619
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: be running to the side with Zach Pascal. I'm just

620
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: gonna throw that out there, because he is that dude,

621
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: and you're in with Because everything we hear from all

622
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: the players and there's not a ton but you read

623
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: between the lines, this is gonna be a much more

624
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: balanced offense in terms of run versus pass. They're not

625
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: gonna throw it to set up the run. It's gonna

626
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: be quite the opposite, I think, especially with a backup

627
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: quarterback to start the year.

628
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 4: I think they gotta be careful about committing to that

629
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 4: too much because I am a large, large believer in

630
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 4: you have to throw to set up the run. In

631
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 4: this league. Number one and number two, it's always easy

632
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 4: to say how much you're gonna run. Let's see how

633
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 4: the games start turning out, because it's tough to stick

634
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 4: with a run if you're struggling.

635
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: Well.

636
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: You are going to see the Cardinals against the Vikings

637
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. How about a joint practice for the second

638
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: straight year leading into the final preseason game?

639
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 3: One joint practice?

640
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 4: I'm guessing too. Kevin O'Connell, I know when he was

641
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 4: talking about it, mentioned that because the Vikings are going

642
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 4: to host the Titans for a joint practice the week before,

643
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 4: then play the Titans, and then do the same thing

644
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 4: with the Cardinals the next week, and he said it'll

645
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 4: be good to get in for four workouts with these teams.

646
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 4: So my guess is two practice.

647
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: So it's that scenario, though unlike Cardinals Titans, that does

648
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: give me a little bit of pause because the reason

649
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: ostensibly that Mike Vrabel wanted to go from two joint

650
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 2: practices to a single joint practice, which was then reduced

651
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: even further to a semi full contact type practice, was

652
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: because they had a joint practice the week before the Titans.

653
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: So the Vikings are having a joint practice the week

654
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: before the Cardinals. There's always a risk that the head coach,

655
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: in this case, Kevin O'Connell's decides, you know what, we're

656
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: too banged up to go two days one hundred percent

657
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: both days.

658
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 4: Well, you don't know any saying we'll have it's easy

659
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 4: to say too now. And then yeah, you get through

660
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 4: a bunch of training camping O, there's a bunch of

661
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 4: people hurt.

662
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, But I'm all about the joint practices.

663
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: I said on the RACECI Report, and Kyle Vanabash agreed

664
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: with me that in most cases, especially the going into

665
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: the final preseason game, the joint practices have a lot

666
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: more intensity and in tenacity than the final preseason game

667
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: ever does. First off, you're gonna see the regulars, you're

668
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 2: gonna see the starters, and you're gonna see ones on ones.

669
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna get a DJ Humphreys against Daniel Hunter. You're

670
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: you're gonna see a Marco Wilson against Justin Jefferson. Those

671
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: are marquee matchups you never get in the preseason, and

672
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: you know, not only is the film rolling and all

673
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: the eyes are out there, but guess what you know

674
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: you have to perform in front of the biggest critics,

675
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: and that's your teammates because everyone's usually gathered in a

676
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: circle watching a lot of these one on one reps,

677
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: and there's always that factor of how are your guys

678
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: going to react if you get beat? I I like it.

679
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: I love the joint practices. I think it's purely selfish practice,

680
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: way beyond.

681
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 4: The the drudgery of a month of training camp or

682
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 4: six weeks of training camp. If you're talking about going

683
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 4: someplace else and doing something different, that's that's always a plus.

684
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: No I and I really enjoyed being out in Minnesota

685
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: last season. That was the first time I'd gone out

686
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: to their stadium and it was beautiful, really great atmosphere,

687
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: great in game entertainment. So that'll be fun, I think,

688
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: just to be out there, hopefully as fun as Nashville.

689
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: Was for a week and Darren's leading the charge of

690
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: FITS is having a backyard lake party. Darren, I've been

691
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: there already, you know, of a sudden darn up to

692
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: you know actually you know, just sort of do a

693
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: humble brag. But he just flexed it right out of

694
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: the gate. He just he just went right forward with gusto.

695
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: I thought maybe he'd ease into it a little bit

696
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: when I brought up there and I sort of hinted

697
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: that Darren has been there and went without you the

698
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: Fits lakeside of state in Minnesota.

699
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 4: Yes, it was quite with Uh. Andre Roberts was there,

700
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 4: Leon Washington was there. There was a bunch of people there. No,

701
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 4: I have I I actually it did cross my mind,

702
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 4: like does Fits show up to one of these practices?

703
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think so absolutely. Oh yeah, I could

704
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: see it definitely. Which sideline does he go to though,

705
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: that's just no, but he does. He would go to

706
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: both and have no problems. As the former Vikings ball

707
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: boy Larry Fitzgerald, So that is true. He has that

708
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: affinity in that uh you know, connection to the Vikings.

709
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: So that in mind, Yeah, I would say, so, uh,

710
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: where is the practice facility and or headquarters for It's

711
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 2: It's like nowhere near downtown.

712
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 3: But it's really nice, right, It's pretty new.

713
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 4: It's you could a lot of people think it's the

714
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 4: best facility in the NFL. It just got built.

715
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 3: We'll be the judge of that.

716
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 4: It's giant. It's got all kinds of stuff. They can

717
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 4: have fans there.

718
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: How far is it a drive from Larry's lakeside of State,

719
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,479
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna be staying at Larry's and I'm gonna

720
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: need to have to add.

721
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 3: This to the bingo card.

722
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: I'm going I'm gonna need to borrow one of Fitz's

723
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 2: exotic rides and I'll be commuting in that to practice

724
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: every morning.

725
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 4: I did look up to see how far away it

726
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 4: was from downtown, and it's it's I think it was

727
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 4: like an eighteen minute drive or something. I don't know.

728
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 4: I don't remember where Fitz lives, to be honest, all.

729
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: Right, So I have a mandatory Texans and then I

730
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: have a big, big finish for you guys here on

731
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 2: Cardinals Underground, brought to you by Pacific Office Automation. Let's

732
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 2: start with mandatory Texans. Look, when you own another team's

733
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: first round pick, and that team easily could have a

734
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 2: top five. Pick your darn toot and we're gonna look

735
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: to a block wall into their backyard.

736
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 4: Do we need to have Almo create a drop so

737
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 4: when you do your mandatory Texans, we have something we

738
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 4: can drop it.

739
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: You know, I just I just work here. I'm not

740
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: a decision maker. I'm just bringing you the following that

741
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: Robert Woods, speaking of the Titans, did a lot of

742
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: nothing last year. And you know what his joint practice

743
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 2: performance sort of poortended what his season was all about.

744
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: Robert Woods anyway, he's a member of the Texans now,

745
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: and he has compared this Texans team that finished three

746
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: thirteen and one to joining the Rams in twenty seventeen

747
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 2: under new head coach Sean McVay coming off a four

748
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: win season, and what do they do that year in

749
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: the first year under McVeigh, As I say this through

750
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: gritted teeth, they won the division with an eleven and

751
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 2: five mark. And Robert Woods is making comparisons to Demico

752
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: Ryans taking over Houston here in twenty twenty three, and

753
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: he talked about all the hungry players and the hungry

754
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: coaches and all this this is the USA today dot Com.

755
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 4: I really need to get a better catch.

756
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: So anyway, that would be bad for the Cardinals. That

757
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: would be very bad if they ended up winning eleven games.

758
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 2: So we're hoping, we're hoping that Robert Woods is very

759
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: wrong when it comes to Houston.

760
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: I just feel like I'll believe it when I see it.

761
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: Well, if you're playing, if you're playing a rookie quarterback.

762
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 4: Didn't they play a rookie year? Oh no, he wasn't

763
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 4: a rookie.

764
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: The second or third year.

765
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Speaker 3: Sixteen.

766
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 4: Boy, those cow guys.

767
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: It's you know, cow guys. They just go number one

768
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: in the draft when it comes to quarterbacks, or at

769
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: least they should have with Aaron Rodgers. So you know

770
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: how we lost twenty seven thirty basketball games this year.

771
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: I have no idea, and it's the reason why I'm

772
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 2: bringing up the big finish here. The greatest Sunday sporting

773
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: event in the world every year is that's a rhetorical question.

774
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 2: It's not a trick super Bowl. What is the second

775
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: greatest Sunday sporting event?

776
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: Can I have a hint?

777
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 4: I have a feeling. I know what it is. It

778
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 4: just happened.

779
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: There's a there's an NFL team located in the city, Oh.

780
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: It's got to be at F one, right, No, Miami.

781
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 2: That hurts.

782
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: Sorry, Indianapolis five hundred, Oh okay, in five.

783
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 2: Hundred, think Americana, think Memorial Day weekend, Danny, think the

784
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: greatest spectacle in racing the indian An helpless five hundred.

785
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: That was gonna be my next guess.

786
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 2: Anyway, I bring that up because you know who coached

787
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis for a couple of years, your head coach,

788
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 2: Jonathan gannet So this is a long way to get

789
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: to the fact that the Cardinals today took a field trip.

790
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: And I'll let you guys break the news Darren Urban

791
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: Cardinals Insider. Where exactly did the Cardinals go today as

792
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: a as a team bonding event? We presume I.

793
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 4: Think this is awesome that you're letting me break the

794
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 4: news because the only reason I know what happened is

795
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 4: because you told me. But apparently they went go kart.

796
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: Racing, go kart racing. How about that? I mean? That

797
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: is I mean, how do I man, how did I

798
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 2: not get picked to cover that event? I a car guy,

799
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: so oh I would have been out there. I would

800
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: have been in the pace car. By the way, have

801
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: you ever seen these go karts at these track of

802
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: you know, these these family fund centers. I don't know

803
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: where exactly they went, even if they went out to

804
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: like the old Bob Bonder out where they have the

805
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: professional carts that go more than one hundred miles an hour,

806
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: by the way, and you're like an inch off the ground.

807
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: It's a crazy rush when you're driving these things. How

808
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 2: does Magnus verfro Holt fit into one of these go carts?

809
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: That's what I I mean. I hope somebody got pictures

810
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 2: in video, because that's got to be worth the way

811
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 2: to the video itself.

812
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: I imagine it probably looks pretty similar to when we were

813
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 3: in Nashville for preseason last year and we were in

814
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 3: a car going to the joint practice and Darren is driving,

815
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 3: and I'm sitting in the front because it was kindly

816
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: offered to me. And I turn around and Wolfe is

817
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: sitting in the middle of a back seat with his

818
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: knees like up to his neck. That's what I would imagine,

819
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: yelled to Froholt, probably looks like in one of those

820
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: race cars.

821
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Speaker 4: I thought it was everything else. I remember, way back

822
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 4: in the day, I think there was a we were

823
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 4: in San Diego for a game, maybe a preseason game,

824
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 4: and Jim Trotter, who was based in San Diego, the

825
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 4: longtime NFL reporter, was taking out taking out like three defense.

826
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 4: He was taken out like Darnell Dockett, and uh, there

827
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: was a couple other guys, maybe Corey reading it. I

828
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 4: know Dockett was in there in two other defensive linemans

829
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 4: probably and he he picked him up and he's toy

830
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 4: a camera or whatever. And literally as he started driving away,

831
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Speaker 4: I was worried I was going to start seeing sparks

832
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: from the back of the car because it was so

833
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 4: low to the ground once these dudes got in the car.

834
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Speaker 2: So yeah, look for that video at a website near you. Maybe.

835
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if it was a

836
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 2: private team event. I just know that all the buses

837
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: were out front of Cardinal's HQ, the digging helt Arizona

838
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: Cardinals Training Center, thinking, wow, field trip day. Are they

839
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 2: going to like Herd Museum? What are they doing exactly?

840
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: But no, they went out for a little go kart racing.

841
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 4: Well, as long as we're talking about field trips, the

842
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 4: rookies Friday night, this Friday night, They're going to a

843
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,959
Speaker 4: Diamondbacks game and your first round pick will be throwing

844
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: out the first pitch.

845
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Speaker 2: Really, do we have any idea if he's played baseball before,

846
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: because we know the potential to look really bad off

847
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: the back ERTs.

848
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 4: Did not have a good showing a few weeks ago

849
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 4: in Philadelphia.

850
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: Really, I ah see that?

851
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 4: Please look up the video.

852
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 2: Oh it's painfully obvious. Lyac has never played little league baseball.

853
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 4: I thought he would have, but he didn't. It did

854
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 4: not go well with the first pick.

855
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 3: I'm not sure he played baseball, but I do know

856
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 3: that Paris Johnson Junior did play a very un common

857
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: sport that most NFL players do growing up, because I

858
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: learned this in the latest episode of Game On that

859
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: I did with him. And take a guess.

860
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: If you let's see what did he play growing up? Uncommon?

861
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 2: Uncommon common.

862
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 4: Everybody plays guess who, and he didn't.

863
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: That is also true. He never played guests who growing up?

864
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: Archery gymnastics, gym Isn't that crazy?

865
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: My god?

866
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: That was the first sport he played.

867
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: Wow, untill he outgrew the trampolines and exceeded the way

868
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 2: pretty much. Can you imagine? I mean, you know, the

869
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: gymnasts are about the size years truely. I mean, can

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Speaker 2: you imagine that team picture? Yeah, pretty crazy, se him

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Speaker 2: towering over every other. Yeah, that's okay, So there you go.

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Speaker 2: We'll get some uh, we'll get some reports, hopeful, some

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Speaker 2: anecdotal stuff as to who was the driver to beat

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Speaker 2: out of the go kart racing and.

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Speaker 4: Then Paul's going to walk up and challenge them face

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Speaker 4: to face.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it's once again I live vicariously through these

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Speaker 2: guys car collections. That's that's how it goes around here.

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Speaker 2: So all right, we saved the field trip for the

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Speaker 2: very end. And what else is on the calendar going

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Speaker 2: forward here between now and mandatory mini camp mid June. Right,

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Speaker 2: just were of the same, right, just.

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Speaker 4: Have OTAs another couple weeks of OTAs we're getting closer

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Speaker 4: to the end of the off season, before the break

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Speaker 4: before training camp. I thought I saw on Twitter today

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Speaker 4: as we record this Tuesday, or we one hundred days

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Speaker 4: out from the opener?

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, one hundred days from the NFL opener. Lions

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Speaker 2: at the Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: I hate when we start doing countdowns and I haven't

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Speaker 4: gotten any vacation yet, and I'm thinking of myself. It's

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Speaker 4: going too fast.

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Speaker 2: So that means one hundred three days from the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: season opener at Washington against the Commanders, so by the way,

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Speaker 2: we're out of time. Otherwise I would get to the

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Speaker 2: headline of the week. This is a real headline off

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Speaker 2: ap and then I'll just leave it here because I

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Speaker 2: really don't want to talk about this, but here's the headline.

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Speaker 2: Former Steelers and Jets running back Le'Veon Bell says he

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