1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amson, and this is the 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: College Football Apostles Week nine, So we're deep into the 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: season now and fan bases are going crazy. You got 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: AJ mccarrn blasting Alabama players. You have Lyndale White going 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: after USC. You got Mike Gundy talking about how hard 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: it is to retain players right now and it's just 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: so sad and so hard for him. And then you 8 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: got James Franklin refusing to talk about a player who 9 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: is well, multiple players who are suspended from their team. 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: You got Kenny Dillingham having open kicker tryouts during the 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: season after Ralph blasted them, and oh man, I'm sorry. 12 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: And we got to talk about the quarterbacks who are 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: going to be in the portal for this season. And 14 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: that's on the episode of College Football Apostles. Make sure 15 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: that you guys like subscribe, tell a friend about the show, 16 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: and most importantly, get notifications. Go down there and like 17 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: subscribe to all of that stuff right now. But Ralph, 18 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: I guess we will start with with Mike Gundy because 19 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: this is the point in time this season where guys 20 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: are you know, guys that we thought we would see playing. 21 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: We haven't really seen them play too much, and now 22 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: we know it's because that red shirt year is gonna 23 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: be preserved or they're just gonna be on it on 24 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: the way out. In the transfer portal, and Mike Gundy 25 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: talked about how hard it is at this point in 26 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: time to retain your players. Do you feel bad for 27 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: him right now? 28 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: I think if it was any coach other than Mike Gundy, 29 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 2: I would immediately jump down their throat. But he's been 30 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: at Oklahoma State forever, so you're actually talking about somebody 31 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: who was an Oklahoma State quarterback. Oklahoma State coach has 32 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: been there a really long time, through ups and downs, 33 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: So you can't just jump to the automatic. Well, coaches 34 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: all lead, you can't. You can't do that with him. 35 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: So with somebody who's been around college football that long, 36 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: somebody who lost eighteen players to the portal after the 37 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two season, you kind of want to listen 38 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: to what he has to say. Here's what he said, 39 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: player retention is based on money. I'll give you an example. 40 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 2: If you're playing on our team and we go three 41 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: and nine, and right now you're making twelve thousand dollars 42 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: and we say, hey, if you come back, we'll pay 43 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: you two hundred and fifty thousand. What are you gonna do? 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: Player retention is probably ninety percent built on money right now, 45 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: not other things. It's changed. I don't know if he's 46 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: completing it sounds like he's just telling the truth. 47 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think he's completely right. I do 48 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: believe that player retention of your stars is based upon money, right. 49 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of kids that recognize that opportunity 50 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: is more valuable than the money, because at the end 51 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: of the day, the majority of players are still under 52 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: the disillusionment, and it's not wrong for them to feel 53 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: like that that they're going to the NFL, that the 54 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: NFL is gonna be my path, right, And there's a 55 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: lot of them who are right, and some of them 56 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: are going to be are aware enough to say, all right, 57 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to the NFL. Let me get as 58 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: much money as I can right now. And then you 59 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: have the kids that are like, yo, I'm going to 60 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: the NFL, and this situation with this coach, with this 61 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: coordinator is the right situation for me, and I'm gonna 62 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: stay put. Yeah, somebody else might offer me a little 63 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: bit more money. But for a lot of kids, as 64 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: long as the money is close and they're in a 65 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: good situation already, a lot of them are willing to stay. 66 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: And that's why you've seen there are certain schools that 67 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of kids transfer out, even when 68 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: they're not buried on the depth chart, but when they are. 69 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: You know, a kid like Kenyon Sadik at Oregon the 70 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: second tight end right now, if if he weren't truly 71 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: happy there, he would be in the portal because there's 72 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of people that will probably offer 73 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: him a lot of money this offseason. But maybe he says, 74 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: all right, cool, I'm happy in the spot I'm in 75 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: right now. I'm gonna shine next year, have a legit 76 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: chance to go to the NFL. And let's say somebody 77 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: offers him seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars in Oregon 78 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: was like, hey, yo, we got we got six twenty 79 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: five for you. Here's the budget, here's what Terence Ferguson 80 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: got last year. Here's what we have. You know, what 81 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: do you what do you do in that sort of situation? 82 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I see what you're talking about. I see 83 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: what you're talking about. And I guess maybe where you 84 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: could push back. Mike Gundy is also saying like it's 85 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: changed because you're allowed. Sometimes it's not just money. If 86 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: your position coach leaves and you like that position coach, 87 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: Like Kurt Signette, you went from James Madison to Indiana, 88 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: a lot of players followed him. Yeah, they liked him. 89 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: They want to go, and you can go now. You know, 90 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: I was raised in Arizona. They have like regular marriage 91 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: in Arizona, and they have covenant marriage, right, so marriage 92 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: covenant marriage is for if you go into the thing 93 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: cocky like, hey, we're never gonna split up, and even 94 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: if we do think about it, I want to make 95 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: it harder to get divorced. So in a covenant marriage, 96 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: if you get that type of marriage, you have like 97 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: a one year cooling off period before you can actually 98 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: finalize a divorce. A whole year, wow, unless there's like 99 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: serious exigent circumstances. Right. So, my bet is if you 100 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: took all the people who were in covenant marriages and 101 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: the people who have regular marriage certificates in Arizona, the 102 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: divorce rate is lower amongst the the one that's harder 103 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: to get out of. 104 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: Bet so because that gives you long enough time to 105 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: like separate, live somewhere else and then be like, ah, no, 106 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: it was better, oh the way. 107 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. And so like when it used to be that 108 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: you had to sit out a whole year, you know, 109 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: money or not under the table or not having punishment 110 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 2: for leaving for players, when coaches could just come and 111 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: go was a big driver on people just sticking around 112 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: on a roster kind of because you had to. So 113 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: I do think that that money and player retention is big. 114 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: And I know a lot of coaches don't promise kids 115 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: coming in or even transfers anything, but they'll say in 116 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: year two we got you. 117 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: Yep. 118 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: If you prove it, we got you. Now you have 119 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: to back that up or you lose your credibility big time. 120 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: But that's the same in any type of recruiting, right, 121 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: So I would say that it's a big factor in 122 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: keeping your players. As somebody who all Arizona State, you know, 123 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: watching us lose Ricky Piersoll to Florida and then Elijah 124 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 2: Badger to Florida, I know that there are some schools 125 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: that have more money than we do. That that just 126 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: is what it is, and you're not going to be 127 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: able to retain unless you unless you can up. 128 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but how much of that, okay, with with Ricky 129 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: Piersaw and with Elijah Badger, right, how much of that 130 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: was situation too? Was that they knew that Arizona State 131 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: or perceived that Arizona State was going to be bad 132 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: last year? 133 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: Yes, I will give you more money to get the ball. 134 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: Is as a pretty great recruiting tool. 135 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, But more money and you will. 136 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: Get the ball. 137 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And and you'll be on what we believe will 138 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: be a good football team, even though that that didn't 139 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: turn out to be true with Florida. But but if 140 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: you also believe that you're going to be in a 141 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: winning situation too, sometimes that matters for players. 142 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but sometimes it's about the money. Shout out. 143 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: At the end of the day. It's all when they 144 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: say it's not about the money, It's always about the money, 145 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: all right. So we also have had players who played 146 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: now blasting their universities and everything else. One of them 147 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: is Lyndale White over at USA. He is not happy 148 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: with what is going on with Lincoln Riley. There's a 149 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: Matt Lionard has recently softened his stance on USC. I 150 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: believe after rethinking after listening to a little bit of 151 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: George Reister and a little bit of Joel Klatt about 152 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: USC because we both share the opinion and I think 153 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: you do too, Ralph, that they're closer than it appears 154 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: that when you lose four games by fourteen points against 155 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: tough opponents, and these are physical opponents, and you would 156 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: have gotten your ass waxed last year and blown out. Yes, 157 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: you're moving in the right direction. You got to be 158 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: able to stand a little bit of the growing pains 159 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: to be able to get to the actual winning when 160 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: the fans want microwave results, when the problem is is 161 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: that they got microwave results when Caleb Williams came over 162 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: because he was a special college quarterback and his situation 163 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: was that situation was similar to what happened at Michigan 164 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: State with Kenneth Walker, right when mel Tucker first got there, 165 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker gone. What happened, bottom fell out, Caleb Williams gone, 166 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: The bottom didn't well, I mean I guess that this 167 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: is their version of the bottom falling out, but it 168 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: also fell out last year with Caleb Williams. So they 169 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: had to rethink everything, reimagine everything. So why like, I 170 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: don't know why anybody expected this season because I talked 171 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: to USC fans. I see one every other day in 172 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: Terrell Thomas, who played the our daughters are friends. He 173 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: coaches at my kids school, and they all expected a 174 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: ten win season out of USC this year. And I 175 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: couldn't understand why. 176 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: It could have happened. But I'll tell you what, if 177 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: they run it back, same players, same coaches, and I 178 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 2: know that doesn't happen in modern college football, and fans don't. 179 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: USC fans don't seem to be interested in that. I'm 180 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: telling you, if you run it back with everyone, this 181 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: is a ten to eleven win team next year. If 182 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: they continue to progress the way that they're progressing. It's 183 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: like walking into a remodel and complaining about the. 184 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: Mess exactly exactly. They're command, Oh my god, it looks 185 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: Oh what what is that this dust around here? You 186 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: got on this wood? Lay it all over the place. 187 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: What's what's the tile laying on the floor for? Because 188 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: it's a remodel, what are you talking about? 189 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: They have to see it, they have to know. They don't. 190 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: They don't, Ralph, I'm on their message work. They do 191 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: not see it. The overwhelming majority do not see. 192 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: Team meetings when Lincoln Riley is talking to the players 193 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: for him to be like, we're close. 194 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: But the question is do they know what? At what 195 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: point in time do they still continue to buy the message? 196 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: Because I believe that if he can keep them buying 197 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: the message, this will translate over into positive things next season. 198 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: If you see blowouts, if they number one, lose to 199 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: UCLA or get blown out by like Notre Dame and 200 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: then lose to UCLA, this whole season was wasted. You 201 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: would have all the good work that got done would 202 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: have been just thrown in the trash and you're gonna 203 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: be sorry again next year. 204 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose I'm looking at Oklahoma right now. I'm 205 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: looking at Oklahoma and I'm like, maybe they're a quarterback away, 206 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: or maybe they're toast. We don't know, but we do 207 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: know that they weren't ready for this transition to the SEC. 208 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: It's pretty clear. 209 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: I don't think they were ready for the Big twelve 210 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: this year, let alone the SEC. 211 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they score in the Big twelve. When you look 212 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: at you look at USC, when you look at where 213 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: they were last year when they weren't ready to be 214 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: in the PAC twelve, and I can genuinely say, like, oh, 215 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: they can play a little bit of Big ten football. 216 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: They had five explosive plays against Penn State's defense. They 217 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: had five plays for one hundred and ninety one yards 218 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 2: against a team that averages two yards per rush defensively, 219 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: like they are close. They it's just not yet. And 220 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: we have professionalized college football, so you can look at 221 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 2: things on an arc you can't. I know they don't 222 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: love being five and nine over his last fourteen. I 223 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: would hate that too, But you are, George, Are they 224 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 2: going to be more talented next year than they are 225 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: this year? 226 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: Yes? 227 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: And he's this defense working with D'Anton lynn. If he's 228 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: still there and they the bottom falling out, might keep 229 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: him around, which could be a good thing for them. 230 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. It feels weird to be 231 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: encouraged about a team that just blew it against Maryland 232 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: and lost at Minnesota. But we remember, we remember what 233 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: USC had been under you know that Clay Helton. They 234 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 2: were eight and four in his last twelve and they 235 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: looked terrible. Yep, Yes, they looked better than this year's 236 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: USC team would murder last year's USC team. 237 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: Facts Facts now onto Alabama because AJ McCarran is not 238 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: feeling what he's watching on television. He's not feeling what's 239 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: going on with them, And truthfully, with him, I do 240 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: not blame him. I think this is a totally different situation. 241 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: But then Kaylyn de Bor missed the mark with the 242 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: Malachi More thing. He did not there was no obvious 243 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: punishment that that happened. And with players, players will they're 244 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: like our kids. They will consist in whether you're pro player, college, 245 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: high school, whatever, they will consistently push the limits until 246 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: they know where the line is. And if they step 247 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: over the line, there's no consequence. And then everybody else 248 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: sees it. And all you had to do is be like, oh, 249 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I messed up. Then everybody else is gonna say, oh, okay, 250 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: well all right, I'll do it. And then oh, hey, coach, 251 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I messed up. Oh you know, it's fine, Johnny. 252 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: Then that line keeps getting further and further, and then 253 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: when you try to draw hard line, everybody say whoa, whoa, whoa, 254 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: why you ain't dot Malachi like that? And then you 255 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: had their wide receiver, their five star wide receiver OTUM 256 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: retweeting tweets about why you not throwing me to football? 257 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: And then you got them shooting jump shots on quarterback sneaks. 258 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: That ain't it, fam None of that is it? That's 259 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: some the the jump shots on on on the quarterback sneak, 260 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: that's something that we would have seen out of Florida 261 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: State's Willie Taggart team. 262 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: Were ever in school, We ever in school and your 263 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: hardest teacher doesn't show up that day, Yes, and they 264 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: got a substitute. And then you turn everybody turns to 265 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: that one kid in class and then to see if. 266 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, if if he's he's if that kid is either 267 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: going to be like all right, cool, we chilling to day, 268 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: or if the kids like here comes the chaos. 269 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if and and if the teacher doesn't care, 270 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: everybody gets their phones out. That's what sets the tone, right. Uh. 271 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: When I was a teacher for three years and they 272 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: always said, like your most strict time as a teacher 273 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: needs to be week one, like syllabus week. You know, 274 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: you want to be that substitute that comes in and 275 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: you're like, I'm retired military, Yes I saw the battlefield. No, 276 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you if I killed anyone 277 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: or not. But if you do want to talk about 278 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: what the inside of a man looks like, I can 279 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: be pretty descriptive like, well, yeah, yeah, you got to 280 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: with yeah, you got to come up with an energy 281 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: that gets people back on their heels. And that's we're 282 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: learning more about Nick Saban in the years after he's 283 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: gone than I think we did in the time that 284 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: he was there about how hard it is to just 285 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: keep that death grip on a program, keep people with 286 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: the fear of God in them, right, That's tough. That's tough. 287 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: And Kaylin de Bors, this is going to be without 288 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: turning over the roster. It's going to be very difficult 289 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: to get everybody back. 290 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: And it's funny because I actually heard something prior to 291 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: the season, because remember when we put out the list 292 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: of the teams that would have the most wins over 293 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: the over the next five years, people were surprised at 294 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: how low Alabama was and and then they started out 295 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: the season. Ha, ha, what are you talking about? You 296 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: look stupid. Well, here's the thing is, I believe that 297 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: Kaitlyn de Bores year two is gonna be harder than 298 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: year one because it's gonna be starting to recruit his 299 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: own players. He's actually gonna lose some players into Portal 300 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: this year. I do believe some some some pretty good 301 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: players that are gonna go to other teams because and 302 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: not because he's a bad coach. It's just because they 303 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: they signed up for it, and they were like, I 304 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: want the I want the saving treatment, you know. I mean, 305 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: like like I want somebody that's gonna be on my 306 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: ass constantly because I need that. And there are some 307 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: players that realize I need one thing and I need 308 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: another thing. Now. He needs to get players that fit 309 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: the Kaitlin Debor style because the Saban players doing it 310 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: your way that ain't gonna work. So he's got to 311 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: get players in to establish his culture and players who 312 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: are gonna be able to follow the rules without the 313 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: rule of law. 314 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 2: Right, And you're bringing in the best in the country 315 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: and you're trying to put them through the pressure cooker 316 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: that will make them pros. That's what you have to do, 317 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: you know. And so I wish him the best of luck. 318 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: But as you've often pointed out when he was at Washington, 319 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: he's never had to be a proven recruiter, no, So 320 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 2: you better hope the laundry recruits itself, or that he 321 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: elevates his game in that area because where he sets 322 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 2: himself apart is the x'es and o's. But in the 323 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 2: sec sometimes that's not enough. Sometimes it really is just 324 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: Jimmy's and Joe's and you go up against teams to 325 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: have nine five stars on an eleven person side of 326 00:18:58,760 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 2: the ball. 327 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: See. I think the hardest part, well, the biggest adjustment 328 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: for Kaylyn the Boy is going to be the fact 329 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: that he's always been beloved everywhere. He was beloved at 330 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: Sue Falls, beloved that Fresno State. They loved him at 331 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 1: Washington instant, instant grits types of results there because he's 332 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: a really good coach. But at Bama that there was 333 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: no rebuild. There was like they were at the they 334 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: were in the College Football Playoff last year. So the 335 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: expectation is different. And this is the first time that 336 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: he's ever been under this level of scrutiny where where 337 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: people aren't like, Kaylyn, you're doing a great job, You're 338 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: you're fantastic, you're excellent, you're doing all the right things. 339 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: We want you here forever. He ain't hear none of 340 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: that right now, he heard it after the Georgia game 341 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: and then it all went away. I'm just saying, now 342 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: you got James Franklin. He has refused to to talk 343 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: about two players who are suspended from the team. They 344 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: have rape charges against them and other things as well. 345 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: Is James Franklin out of pocket for not wanting, wanting 346 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: or addressing these things at all because the media tried 347 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: to ask him questions. Their representative said that the school 348 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: put out a statement address any questions to the to 349 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: the SID or to the athletic department. But they've already 350 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: put out a statement been coach James Franklin will not 351 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: be addressing it. 352 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: So this is the ultimate like what did you think 353 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 2: would happen? Off? Right? Like James Franklin gets asked a 354 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: question by the media and he looks surprised, and it's like, James, 355 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 2: what did you think would happen? 356 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: Yes? 357 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: And then and then he doesn't answer it in the 358 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: media and it's like, media, what did you think would happen? 359 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: They should be fired if they refuse to even ask 360 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: him the question, right right? 361 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: So you just it. It is what it is like. 362 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: It's when an officer walks up to a car that's 363 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: been swerving and they knock on the window and they say, 364 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: you've been drinking tonight. Why would you ask me that? Yeah, 365 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 2: but like you expect the driver to be like, yes, 366 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: but do you expect to. 367 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: Ask the question, yes, exactly drunk one? 368 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you they have to ask. All you have 369 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: to say in that situation is like on a we 370 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: we've issued a statement on a vice a legal counsel 371 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 2: and not having all the information left. Uh, you know 372 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 2: we we we support any and all victims, you know, 373 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: and as stuff comes out about this, perhaps we'll be 374 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: able to address in the future. We can't address it 375 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: right now. What I can tell you is they're they're 376 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: not on our team. They did not meet the standard 377 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: of our team. And hopefully a day comes when when 378 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: we can have a more open conversation about this. But 379 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 2: for anybody who is, you know, a victim of anything 380 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: like this, if my heart's go out to you. 381 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: End of storry, there's nothing else to ask. After that point, 382 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: they will stop asking. But the fact that you ignore it, 383 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: that's only gonna make investigative reporters dig deeper. Yeah you don't. 384 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 2: Let's bring in Luther the Anger translator to answer the question. 385 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 2: What do you think about those rapes? 386 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: Like what. 387 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: He's getting killed for stepping back like that, and it's 388 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 2: just come on, James exact. But neither one of them 389 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: is gonna get anything out of that situation. They issued 390 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: a statement the media has to ask, but like, will 391 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: you think the coach is going to answer? No, you 392 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: just have to ask. And so I don't know. I'm 393 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: not mad at James Franklin. It's just not a good look. 394 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not mad at him for not answering. He 395 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: should have just gave that obligatory non answer that you 396 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: just gave. That's it, and then there's nothing else to 397 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: ask about it because everybody already sees that that you 398 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: gave them that BS answer. So okay, so now we 399 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: know we can move on. All right. I need a 400 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: straight up answer out of you. Ralph, what is going 401 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: on with the Kenny Dillingham at Arizona State kicker situation? 402 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: Because they held open tryouts. He went in the media 403 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: and was like, basically what it sounded like to me, 404 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: because there's a difference in what something what somebody said, 405 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: and how people receive it. When he made the comments 406 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: about we basically that they have to kick better. We 407 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: gotta fit figure out our kicking game. What that sounded 408 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: like to me was our kicker suck. We are holding 409 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: open tryouts because these dudes are horrible. They lost us 410 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: the game. So we'll see if there's anybody else that 411 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: we can find to do better. 412 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate this whole thing. 413 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: So that's what it sounded like. 414 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know how coaches talk to each other. Yes, 415 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: I'll never forget being a freshman in high school and 416 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 2: there's a vent in the door of the coach's office, 417 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: and the drinking fountain is right outside the coach's office door. 418 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 2: So I'm there and I'm taking a real long drink 419 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: because I can hear the coaches talking about the players. Okay, 420 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: and these coaches like, they're so nice and inspirational and motivational, 421 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: and they hold you to account and they push you, 422 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 2: but they don't like it's very much for your betterment, 423 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: and they're good men. And I have a lot of 424 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 2: them for teachers. And you know, I'm listening to him 425 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 2: sitting around in this room, and I remember one of 426 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: them says, I'm gonna have to name drop a dude. 427 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: And hopefully he never ever hears this, but I remember 428 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: being a freshman. I'll never forget this. And they're going 429 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 2: around talking about the players, and one of the coaches, 430 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: the special teams coach, goes, what about Richard Mansfield And 431 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: one of the other coaches is like, Mansfield sucks, and 432 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 2: then they all start laughing. 433 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, all start laughing. 434 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: I was like at the drinking fountain and I just 435 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: kind of like slowly back away because I don't want 436 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: to hear what they said about me. Uh. And so 437 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: it was one of those things where you realize, like 438 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 2: coaches talk a different way behind closed, they're a little 439 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: more honest. 440 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: You know. And we found that out with the Giants 441 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: hard knocks this year. 442 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, And so you know the kicking game 443 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: has not been good. It's not a surprise that, you know, 444 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: they want the kicking game to be better. Everybody wants 445 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 2: their kicking game to be better. When he sat down 446 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 2: and he blew up their whole kicking room and Arizona 447 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: State's weird because they have somebody for kickoffs, somebody for 448 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 2: extra points, and somebody for field goals, three different players, right, 449 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 2: and a punter who's also not playing well. And so 450 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: he was like, we're holding open tryout. It was the 451 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: type of stuff that I would expect the coaches in 452 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: the room together to be like Mansfield sucks, like that's 453 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: but not, you know, and he was emotional. He was 454 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: from It certainly wasn't something that happened in the fifty 455 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: sixth minute of the game. That law a forty eight 456 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: yard field goal from a college kicker in the fifty 457 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 2: sixth minute is not what lost you this game. But 458 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: it's what he was frustrated about, is what was on 459 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: his mind at the time. I had tweeted out a 460 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: receipt for a Sun Devil Sun Angel club and I 461 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: donation and I just wrote new kicker and I posted 462 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: it and I thought it was funny. And then when 463 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: I saw what Kenny Dillingham said, I was like, oh no, 464 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 2: like this is going to become an all time pylon 465 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: on one dude. So I deleted my tweet and then 466 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: I Kennye Dillingham apologized, and then he reached out. He 467 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: reached out to me on the side and he's like, hey, 468 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 2: like I didn't mean for and you know, I thought, 469 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, I deleted my tweet because 470 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: I felt like I was piling on like it's enough 471 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: when the head coach does it. But yeah, so I 472 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: think he thought that I was criticizing him. It is 473 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: an emotional thing to do. He apologized. They did hold 474 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: a tryout. What's crazy is I host these sun Devils 475 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: every Wednesday night. There's a kid named Nolan Krinsky who's 476 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 2: in there all the time, and going back well over 477 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 2: a year, he's talked about his failed attempts to walk on. 478 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: So Nolan Krinsky make the team. 479 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: He tried out yesterday. I don't know if he made 480 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: the team yet or not, but he's an aviation student 481 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: at ASU and he's been trying to get on the 482 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 2: team forever. He's actually a pretty good kicker. 483 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: His whole life will be accomplished if he gets on 484 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: this team, right. 485 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: I mean kind of. He's also like he's a pilot. 486 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 2: He's going to have a decent life regardless. But he 487 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: wasn't able to go play college football because there's not 488 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: a lot of schools that have aviation schools that needed 489 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: a kicker. Yeah, so he's kind of in this situation 490 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: where he picked an aviation school and they didn't need 491 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: a kicker. Well now they might, so I hope it 492 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: works out. For him. 493 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: I do too, dude. I hope this turns into one 494 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: of them Disney movies where he ends up kicking the ball. 495 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: Then he goes to the NFL, and then he has 496 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: to give up being being a pilot because he's an 497 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: NFL kicker, and then he goes to go be a 498 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: pilot after and we get a chance to see this 499 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: school story. 500 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want I want to know someday that, like 501 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: after his days as a sun devil, that he's the 502 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: one doing the stadium flyover like that would be. 503 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: But all right, next thing up, Washington State and Oregon 504 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: State revealed their schedules for next year, and everybody was like, okay, cool, 505 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you do a double 506 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: take and you're like, wait, wait what you see something 507 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: that you have never I don't ever remember seeing this. 508 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: They're playing each other twice in a season. Now, part 509 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: of me believes that this is just potentially a placeholder 510 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: for an eighth team that may be joining but joining 511 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: the Pac twelve because they still need one more team 512 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: to be able to field an entire conference, and next 513 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: year is the last year that they have to be 514 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: able to do it. So it was kind of Comedy 515 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: Hour at their expense over that, is that okay to 516 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: laugh at them? 517 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: Uh? I don't know. I don't think it's funny. They 518 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: were kind of forced into it. But what I'm what 519 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: I'm wondering is if that if this George to you, 520 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: all the nil stuff that has made college football feel 521 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: more like pro football is all stuff I wanted to happen, 522 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: and so I'm not mad about it. This definitely makes 523 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: it feel more like the NFL. 524 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: Yes, because it's like a division. You got a home 525 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: and a home. 526 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, I don't. How do you would 527 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: you like to see more people do this? I don't, 528 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 529 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, if it's gonna be like Georgia 530 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: and Bama than Bama and Georgia, or if we're gonna have, 531 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, Oregon Ohio State, then Ohio State Oregon. I mean, 532 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: of course that sounds cool, but that would actually lead 533 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: us to something that actually would benefit college football, which 534 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: is not scheduling ten years in advance and making schedules 535 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: that actually work. And that's why I'm hoping that the 536 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: Big ten SEC where they're talking about the scheduling matchup, 537 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: if they do that every year and pick good opponents 538 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: against each other. Lord have mercy for the for all 539 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: the college football glory, we will be excited about it. 540 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: But the next thing that we have to talk about, 541 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: and this one is a big one because this one 542 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: is the players that could be hitting the transfer portal 543 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: this offseason. The quarterbacks in particular, because the past two 544 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: years we've seen a bunch of quarterbacks hit the transfer 545 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: portal getting big money. But now those guys are aging 546 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: out of college football, So now the younger guys actually 547 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: have to play. And now that the younger guys are playing, 548 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: where will they end up and who will transfer out 549 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: of their good circumstances right now to go to greener 550 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: pastures And that either means situation or greener or pastors 551 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: with boat loads of green money in it. So we 552 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: have a list of players and that we believe could 553 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: be in the transfer portal after this season. Flora is yours, Sure, 554 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: flor is yours? 555 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: Ralph, Yeah, I talk. 556 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm a third person right now. 557 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind being George Reister right now. I don't 558 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 2: like this winter weather that's coming my way. I'd love 559 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: to be out on the best coast at So I'm 560 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: gonna give you a name. You tell me the likelihood 561 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: that you think that they'll hit the portal. All right, 562 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 2: So first we'll start with a with an easy one. 563 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: Washington State's John Mattier. 564 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: Hundred percent, one hundred percent he will be in the 565 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: transfer portal next year. Actually, no, no, no, no, I'll give 566 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: it a ninety nine point eight percent because there's a 567 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: point two percent chance that Washington State's gonna be able 568 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: to come up with enough money to keep him. He's 569 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: a kid who is gonna be highly sought after because 570 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: there are so few quarterbacks available, and he can throw it, 571 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: he can run it, he's tough. He's like an upgraded 572 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: version of Diego Pavia over at Vanderbilt, and he's gonna 573 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: get millions this offseason missed. He may be the three 574 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: million dollar quarterback that Michigan's looking for. 575 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: So he's from north of the Dallas Fort Worth area. 576 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 2: Do you think that'll be one of the things that 577 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: factors into him being Like, I'm an Oklahoma Sooner because 578 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: I wanted to play from friends and family. 579 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: Hey, baby, that might be it, because Oklahoma is definitely 580 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: gonna be in the transfer portal of market for a quarterback. 581 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: Next year. 582 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, New Mexico's Devin Dampier. He's kind of like 583 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: a poor poor man's John Matteire. I guess I mean 584 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: more more of a runner, less of a thrower. 585 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm gonna go with ninety nine percent too, okay, 586 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: and and the one percent is just actually I'm going 587 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. There's no chance he's still there. He 588 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: is been balling this year. Somebody's gonna want him, and 589 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: somebody is gonna want to pay him at least five 590 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars seven hundred and fifty thousand thousand dollars, 591 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: and that's gonna be impossible to turn down. But between 592 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: the NIO money from the school and the marketing opportunities 593 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: of being at a at a P four program are 594 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: gonna be too much. 595 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: He's a really specific type of quarterback. Like not everybody's 596 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 2: gonna be able to make use of him. But yeah, 597 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 2: he's He's had a very good duel threat season. All right, 598 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 2: here's one of my favorite quarterbacks in all of college 599 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: football right now. I think he's a I think he's 600 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 2: a like certified pro prototypical pocket guy, good leadership, big arm, 601 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: doesn't turn the ball, over a lot, and that is 602 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: Cincinnati's Brendan Soresby. Okay, six three, two thirty originally from Denton, Texas, 603 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,959 Speaker 2: committed to Cincinnati coming off their run to the college 604 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: football playoffs. M all right, I'm gonna go with sixty 605 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 2: five percent, Okay, and that thirty five. Yes, there's a 606 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 2: little bit of a money factor, but I do believe 607 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 2: that he's probably one of those kids that's like, I 608 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: want to win, and if we're not gonna be able 609 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 2: to win here at Cincinnati, then I'm gonna move elsewhere. 610 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 2: That's what I think is gonna be the biggest difference 611 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 2: and a differentiator for him. Okay, So then we gotta 612 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: go next. We gotta go with a player that uh 613 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 2: is is just a lights out passer. Uh somehow still 614 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 2: has eligibility left. He's gonna be one of the one 615 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 2: of the last quarterbacks to have a COVID year and 616 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,280 Speaker 2: a red shirt year, and that is fifth year junior 617 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: Chandler Morris from North Texas who currently this season has 618 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 2: twenty three touchdowns and eight interceptions on sixty four passing. 619 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 2: He is a gun slinger. 620 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: Yes, somebody gonna want that. Somebody's air raid offense is 621 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: gonna want that or somebody that runs a you know, 622 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: more of a traditional style offense. That's just like we 623 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: can we can riel them in a little bit. But 624 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to make special plays for us too. 625 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna he's at North Texas. 626 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: I'm his third school. This is his third school. 627 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: Oh so so he he ain't got no problem transfer. 628 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: He ain't got no problem transfer. So but as long 629 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: as he's guaranteed the start, he will he will move 630 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: again because he's like, listen, I need to moved two 631 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: times already. This time is for the money. So but 632 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: but because he's moved three times, he may say I 633 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: finally got a good situation here. I'm not moving because like, 634 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: I don't want to do it again. So it's either 635 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: one of those two things. And so I'm gonna give 636 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: him a fifty to fifty shot. 637 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 2: Okay, time to get controversial the next few okay, Eli 638 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 2: Holstein at. 639 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: Ooh so please this will be his third school. 640 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 2: Pitt fans are always in my mentions anyway, because they've 641 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 2: been mad about Todd Graham for thirteen years and let 642 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 2: it go. So please don't say anything that would upset 643 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 2: them even more. 644 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: Okay. So, so Ralph is the one who brought up 645 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: eli Holstein and said that he believes that eli Holstein 646 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 1: will transfer. 647 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 2: No, I did not. 648 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:23,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with sixty forty stays okay, because he's 649 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: winning at pitt right, what are they six and oh 650 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: or seven and oh? 651 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: Right? Now, Yeah, Jordan Addison was winning at pitt too. 652 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: Hey man, that almighty dollar talks and see see for him. 653 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: He's playing so well that if he can go to 654 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: a potential national championship type situation, he may be the 655 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: quarterback to do that. Now, a place that I can 656 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: see him going. I won't even name the place yet, 657 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: because I do believe that you're gonna name this kid. 658 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: So I'm going to hold off on the place where 659 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: I think he actually no, he yes, Yes, I'm gonna 660 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 1: hold off on the place simply because I do believe 661 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: that you're gonna name this kid. 662 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, if i'm if I'm University of Pittsburgh, I 663 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 2: have game a reno on the phone with this kid 664 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: every single day talking about being the next game. 665 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: Are you better? You better have a money manager on 666 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: the phone with him, all right. 667 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 2: The next one is Miller Moss at USC. 668 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: That's where he might be going. Baby, they might just 669 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: swap quarterbacks. Literally, they do it straight up trade, straight 670 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: up trade, because Eli hosting a better athlete than people 671 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: give him credit for. Now. I remember I saw him 672 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: at the Elite eleven out in Los Angeles, I'm known 673 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: out in Vegas competing, and I think he had the 674 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: highest sparks score because your boy Chiller was like, He's 675 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: gonna have the highest spark store ever and he was 676 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: close to right. 677 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 2: So so yeah, so if they quarterback, because Pitt has 678 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: already taken a USC guy in Keaton Slova's I think, 679 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 2: and USC has already stolen a pretty good pit player 680 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 2: in Jordan Aison, So I imagine there'd be some emotions involved. 681 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 2: All right, let's let's turn up the heat even more. 682 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe. Oh, I'm gonna go with Do you think 683 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe is going to the NFL. 684 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: Not after this year? No, that would not I mean, 685 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: it just wouldn't be a wise moves. 686 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: Here's a controversial question. Do you think it's Anthony Richardson's 687 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 2: fault that Jalen Milroe will not go to the NFL 688 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 2: this year? 689 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: No? No, it is Jalen Milroe and their coach's fault 690 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: because he's not played particularly well of late. He doesn't 691 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: look like he's seeing the field clearly, he doesn't look 692 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 1: like he's ready to go to the NFL. But Jay, 693 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: but Anthony Richardson may be the reason why he for 694 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: sure would not be a first round pick. That may 695 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 1: be the reason, but I mean he's also because Anthony 696 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: richard hadn't played a lot of football games. 697 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 2: I think Josh Allen is the reason Anthony Richardson was 698 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 2: such a high draft pick. And I think that Anthony 699 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 2: Richardson is the reason that the next like physical freak 700 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 2: will not be. 701 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well then the next physical freak who hasn't 702 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: played a lot of football for sure, And. 703 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 2: Then all right, I'll give you my two that I 704 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 2: think will probably be in the portal. 705 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: Darryl, how to give you the percentage? I think seventy 706 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 1: thirty he stayed, Actually, no, sixty five, thirty five he. 707 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 2: Stays, Okay, that's pretty good odds. I'm sure Alabama fans would. 708 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 2: I mean, this last game was rough, but he kind 709 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 2: of was carrying him before that. I'll give you my 710 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 2: two that I think will end up in the portal. 711 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 2: I think everybody will be all over Darien Mensa out 712 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 2: of Tulane. It's fantastic quarterback. Beat out my guy ty 713 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 2: Thompson uh and has that offense rolling. And the other 714 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 2: one is Alonza Barrett at JMU. I could totally see 715 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 2: him jumping over to Indiana to continue that the JMU 716 00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 2: to Indiana pipeline. 717 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: Hey, that might be it. And you guys, that is 718 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: the College Football Apostles today. You guys, make sure that 719 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: you like, subscribe, get notifications, tell a friend about the show. 720 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: Peace out. We will catch you guys next week