WEBVTT - Episode 307 "Killer Mike" 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:04.160 Word with me here. 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.040 You know, BT, know how it goes, shout out O 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:08.240 C T no real color what we see? 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:08.760 Whole game? 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:09.840 Wait the boer be something. 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:12.120 Oh, you can't stand on their own. See I already 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:14.560 know you can't bother with me because with the squad 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:16.720 of me they get a little they called at me. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:25.239 Hello, ball Alert, Welcome to the ball A little show 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:27.720 podcast available everywhere you get your podcast. 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.520 Please continue to like, subscribe to share, are YouTube page 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.279 Baller Alert TV. One time for revolt, I go by 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:33.640 the name. 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:35.199 Of Ferrari Simmons. I go by the name you know 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:37.199 BT from CET with that Killer. 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:37.559 Mike, Get the. 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:40.919 Killer Mike. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:46.440 Fourth time, grab your water, put in. 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:47.400 Respect on it. 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:49.680 Do you feel a little different, BT, I feel a 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:55.120 lot different. I feel like I told y'all Ni you 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:56.400 did you did? 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:58.960 I remember because we were we were talking about your 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.279 album on the Baller podcast. I want to say, as 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.400 soon as it came out, it was a very great 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:08.119 masterpiece of music. I want to talk to Killer Mike man. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:12.039 How long did it take for you to feel how 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.120 you felt when you won those three for three? 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.279 You was three for three? Sweet? 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.720 Did you feel like it was a long time coming 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:20.360 because I know the first Grammar you won that was 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:21.720 with someone else. 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:25.720 Yeah without without, these are yours? Yeah yeah, I mean 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.199 I'm honest either way. I know, like I'm not ours. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.240 The won like I wanted to tag along. I wrapped 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:34.760 my ass off. I felt accomplished. But man, with these accomplishments, 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:36.960 you just want to accomplish more. And you know, winning 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.039 them on my own means something. I still got some goals, 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.199 Like my rap group Run the Jewels, we deserve a Grammar. 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.839 Shouts out to my rap part in LP. He produced 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:46.319 down wrapped on this, so he gets one by this. 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.760 But I want to come back and win one, two, three, 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.240 four more as Run the Jewels, like this is the 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.800 beginning for me, Like this is this is a first 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.080 solo album you heard from me in twelve years. So 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.360 I'm a brand new artist. I'm not who I was 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.360 twelve years ago, or one half of a mighty rap group. 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.800 And I've just opened up another layer. So it's two 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.920 more Michaels that are in store. And I went back 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:07.800 to work the next day. 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.600 Okay, and you said you put up you know, half 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.160 a million for this project out of your own pocket. 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.560 Yeah, your own money. You used. My wife was not 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:17.560 not half about it. 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.520 She probably like, what's going on? 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.320 What's wrong with you? That quarter me and out? 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.720 She called me like like nigga, like, nigg you spend 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.440 a quarter me and all this your hobby now, Nigga, 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.519 this ain't running jewels as being. 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.399 Married, these type of decisions like you conversed with each other. 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:34.960 So how how would that conversation go? 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:39.280 That went like how you catch that? 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:39.760 You know? 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:41.160 But it paid off? 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.360 Yeah, I believed she believed in me a long time. 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.240 So I appreciate. You know, you got to have believers 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.640 around you, and you know, my wife has believed in me. 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.600 My my sisters have believed in me. My baby mothers 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.840 have believed in me. You know, go back to high school. 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.640 Old lovers have believed them. You and I just appreciate 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.239 everybody they ever believed, even if you don't take the 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.160 whole ride together, like it's important, search steps your way. 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.280 It was like everybody got that baby mama. Sometimes you 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.080 butt heads with you know what, And man, I hug 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.520 her as tight as I do all the others because man, 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.520 when I first wanted to do music, like it was 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.239 me and her she believed she loved music we wrapped 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.480 od B whole first album to each other, and no 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.680 matter how the personal things got in between fell apart. 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.239 She's a believer, so she wanted the people I call 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.480 like we did it. 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:28.640 Stuff that you was able to do that too. 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:30.000 And I know that was a great feeling, man. 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:34.040 And I just loved your speech about Atlanta and all, 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.600 and like you were just so you know, prideful about 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:39.480 where you was from, and you just you know, you 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.400 made the city smile, man, like we do. 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:43.720 Listen, man, we gotta we gotta plan the parade all. 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:44.800 We gotta make that. I ain't playing. 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.440 We gave parade to the Adeville Bike and we gave 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.520 parade to high school. Right here. We're gonna given because 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:51.400 it's for us, man. 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:55.360 I said, just started on months ago at a at 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.320 a Hawks game that me winning these Ramons would be ill. 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:00.160 Was asked question. I said, man, it'd be like the 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.000 Hawks again. They first one and be like the Fast, 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:03.800 then they first be like the Brazen, and another one 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:05.960 like the United doing again. And I meant that like 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:07.760 this is for us, you know what I mean. I 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:09.960 know I did the work, I got the studio all 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.960 locked in, but this city has poured so much into me. 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.400 Every people are believed in me in rooms I wasn't 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.960 in if said my name and high favor, and I 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:19.640 just I want to celebrate it with y'all all. So 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.720 we're gonna we're gonna figure something out well and let 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.120 us know we're there. Yeah, And I want to invite 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.320 all the people. I want to invite the cool streamers. 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.359 I don't know no about screaming. I want to invite Kyle, 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:31.280 thank you for saying ya. I know your guy. I 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.240 know your guy in wed but listen, I want to 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:34.880 come to the room. I want to brave your room 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:39.680 because Atlanta Steel One, I am. I it go, y'all player, 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:41.920 just know I rock with you two on IM cheating 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:43.520 for all of us, you know what I mean? Because 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:46.279 I think that from a cultural standpoint, this is the 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:50.600 this is the center of the black world culturally, and however, 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.040 whoever's winning, we win it. Yeah, you know, I just 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:54.080 want to just tell him that. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:55.680 Like y'all, I just blame it on the gen Z 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:57.000 when I when I watched the movie. 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:58.679 I ain't blaming it on nothing like I love y'all. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:04:59.160 You know what I mean. 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.480 If if you know, if you ever get treated bad 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:02.960 on right there for you know what I mean, So 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:04.600 I know how I go though, you know what I'm saying. 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.360 When I liked looking the Two Line Crew, my mama 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:08.599 was more in the Salt and Pepper. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:10.320 You know what I'm saying. I get it, but I 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:11.360 listened to both bands. 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.279 So I'm gonna just say to young people out there, 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.599 it ain't nothing wrong with expanding. 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:17.120 It ain't nothing wrong with trying something else. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.719 It ain't nothing wrong, you know, with just giving, you know, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.599 having You don't have to be always in the crowd, 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.400 you know what I mean. Like I was a kid 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.680 in the South, I listened to Biology. I listened to 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.320 you GK. I listened to Luke, I listened to Poison Clan, 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:31.520 the Dogs. I listened to everything out of textas the 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:33.920 Ghetto Boys tell me right the third you know, coming 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:34.520 out of Memphs. 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:35.600 I listened to all South music. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:39.160 The only thing that made me exceptional, rhyme wise and 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.640 different amongst my peer group at the time was I 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.000 listened to East Coast music too, and I listened to 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:45.200 Northern California music. 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:46.400 So I listened to Hooglyphics. 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.600 I listened to Far Side, you know, out of La 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.200 I listened to the beat Nuts. I listened to Gangstar 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.760 and Gangstar Foundation. I listened to Wu Tang Clan, so 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.200 it gave me just enough edge. So when people say, man, 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.560 how do you do it for twenty years stylistically, I've 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.880 not been so married to something I die with it. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.000 So I just want to encourage all listeners out there. 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.080 As a kid, I listened to as much rock and 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.440 roll as I did RAP. I listened to Metallica, I 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.880 listened to led Zeppelin. You just heard Tee Paine do 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.279 a rendition of osiy Odsborne when he was with Black Sabbath. 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.760 And you have to become culturally rich too, Like I 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.240 know the people that you watching, you like and that stream, 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:19.840 and you agree with them and they agree with you. 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:21.479 That's a good feeling to be a part of that. 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:23.600 But bring something else to the club. Be the person 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.599 to say, let me turn you onto this. If you 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.760 love Andre three thousand, you should know who Port's Head is. 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.000 Well why Because Port's Head affected Andre three thousand and 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.919 ninety five ninety six in a way that radically changed 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.200 the way he approached music. So you should always want 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.120 to know what's the source of the source teaching you 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.279 know what I mean. So I'm just saying, get on 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.279 a big brush shot. If you don't rock with it, 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.120 don't rock with it. But you know I want and 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.479 I'm gonna win again, and I'm gonna win again, and 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:50.400 I'm gonna win again. 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:51.359 Love y'all. 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:55.919 I wanted to say, I respect so how so I 0:06:55.960 --> 0:07:00.960 respect so much? How mentally sharp and articulated you are? 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:02.320 Where did that come from? 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:06.799 Atlanta Public schools APS call your Heights Elementary, Frederick Doull's 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.680 High School or later Moore House College. I want to 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:10.680 thank all the teachers who meant so much to me, 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.120 the ones I still talk to, like Mr Murray from 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.560 Frederick Douglas High School who was my art teacher. Shannon McCullen, 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.080 who's little y'all, his dad his art teacher, you know 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:19.400 what I mean. 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.600 I want to thank people like Miss Pritchett, who's the 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.080 you still remember all of these people. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:26.800 I can tell you every teacher from every grade I 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.040 had because they made that impression on them, you know 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:30.720 what I mean? Even the ones I didn't like. They 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:32.400 gave me a challenge to say, I'm gonna show you 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.920 I'm gonna overcome this. So for me, yeah, absolutely, that's important. Yeah, 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:37.520 So I want to get shouts out to Atlanta Public 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.360 School and just I want to let the kids in, 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.600 particularly Frederick Douglas, know that you guys are great. Y'all 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.440 are worthy, and y'all keep being a prime example of 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.160 greatness in spite of the obstacles. And I want to 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.560 tell their their arrival Benjamin E. Mays, y'all only as 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.720 good as y'all rival. So y'all got to keep sharply 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.400 in each other. You know, our our current Mayle went 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.400 to Maize, but his right hand man, oh there is 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.840 a nashtro So you know, y'all raiders wouldn't be no. 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.560 Over there now. But so who was killer Mike Michael 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:06.760 growing up? 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:08.600 Man, You listen to the album and you see it's 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.320 right now. It's all in the album. 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.160 The way that the record is sonically, it kind of 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.640 like feels like you're there exactly. 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.080 That's yeah, Yeah, you're not, you're not. You're not. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:22.200 As much as hearing the album, you're watching the movie from. 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.240 The choirs that you have in there, like you even 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:26.200 got a gospel record. 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.679 It sounds like a Tears with Mazie. 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.760 Yeah, so the current words out they still wouldn't let 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.840 us get the gospel that we tried. I gotta ask Cray, like, 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.319 how I get in on the gospel. I stopped cutting. 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:38.960 I gotta see if we gotta have like one mandatory 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.320 Jesus in there somewhere. The craft shouts out of my 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:48.120 man of Craig. Yeah, this did see is the Godfather one. 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.320 And Michael two is gonna be the Godfather too, and 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.680 Michael three is gonna be better than the Godfather three 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.680 was because the Godfather. Although people to classify as against 0:08:57.679 --> 0:08:59.400 the movie, my kids have seen it so much because 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:00.360 it's a family movie. 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:00.600 To me. 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.000 You get a chance to see Vido Coleon who was orphaned, 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.439 become a man and raise a family. Now he's a criminal, 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.559 only criminal things happened, but your granddaddy sold moonshine a 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.360 crack depending on how your granddaddy is. But your granddadd 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.640 have reformed his life, changed it to a great man. 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:17.160 And now your great dadd and one of your biggest 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.800 So for me, I wanted you to see the story 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:21.960 of a nine year old boy growing up in a 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.400 city that had just been plighted with the missing and 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.600 murdered children that crack had entered and changed the world 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:30.880 that his grandmother all she knew was Jesus, so she 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:32.840 clung to the cross and helped them. Now, I wanted 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:34.880 you to see the movie of a black American kid 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:38.160 who always heard you can, you must, you will, and 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.320 then here you can't. It ain't gonna ever gonna happen 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.240 for you, It ain't fus. I wanted you to see 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:46.160 the story of obstacles overcome through baby Mammy, some bad decisions, 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.679 and through making right decisions and growing. And I wanted 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.360 it to feel like a movie. I didn't want it 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.439 to feel like I'm just hearing this song to turn 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.240 up and then maybe I get another turn up record. 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:55.800 I wanted you to be able to turn up within 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:56.439 the experience. 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.120 So whether you know most dope boy songs are telling 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.520 you I sold dope the bad My Dope Boys song 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.240 just felt like a barbecue in the hood because it 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.960 was with Spider and two Chinese and sometimes the dope 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.559 boys not the villains, they just the dudes that made it. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.200 Got a hustle going and feed everybody once a month 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.240 on Saturdays, because you know they throwing they barbecue. You're 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.080 gonna get to see the cool car. So it's not 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.280 all blighted, it's not all bad for black people. We smile, 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.240 We love each other, you know, our mothers die, We 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.480 more and we cry and the next day, you know, 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.199 we understand that we got to get up. There never 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.480 been a record like something for junkies. Well, we talked about, 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.400 you know, everybody got an uncle lord on everybody to 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.760 come and now who else? What other rapper? And again, 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.760 like I'm talking to my my homies, who I listen to? 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:37.720 The music you listen to? 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.360 I like it, But at some point, man, you know 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.400 you're gonna have to come to terms with that the 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:44.600 real life hits you to and my record to death 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:45.800 for you, you know what I mean. 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.160 So that's that's what That's what I think ultimately. 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.480 You know, there's some days where all them listening to 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.679 is rap, and the some days where all I'm gonna 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.880 listen to is John Coltran's Love Supreme. You know, there's 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.080 some days all I'm gonna listen to is is me 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.839 and my wife ride around listening to Sinatra and were 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.880 listening to Nat King Call because we just cruised and 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:05.760 we in love and that's how we want to hear about, 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:07.880 you know. So I want to encourage people to seek 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.360 other musics that you may not have thought of, because 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.680 they represent your mood as much as you know, turn 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:13.000 it up. 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:14.320 And I agree with that. 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.280 But I think that's why the Grammys is great because 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.040 it you know, when somebody wins, you don't know them, 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:21.760 you know, go explore. 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:21.920 That, you know. 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:23.959 It's like it's like watching a movie. 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.120 And one of the records that I that I love 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.680 is when when I feel like you were speaking the 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.720 terms that's really relatable when you said, yo, you tweaking 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:36.080 my nigga, like like like really talking like how we 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:40.480 talked amongst our friends and I'm listening, I'm like, like 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:41.600 it's in the twisting and click. 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.319 Yeah, but it all went together, Yes, but it all 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:45.760 went together. 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:47.400 And I heard you say in one of your interviews 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.440 that Ray Murray was a part of the U, the 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:51.240 keeping it. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.160 The thing south. Yeah, he gave it. It gave it 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:53.760 us a challenge. 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:57.080 He said, it has to be southern, it has to 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.760 be distinctly Southern, and it has to be as cohesive 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.240 as the running and then he just walked out the room. 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.040 And then because like you look at each other like shit, 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:07.960 because that's a challenge because you got to meet the 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.200 challenge when it's given as God speaking through somebody. But boy, 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:12.559 that's a hell of a challenge to hell when you 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:16.040 think you have made the greatest mistaped off and you're like, God, damn, 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:16.880 we got a ways to go. 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.160 Yeah, you know, only coming. And he's from the beginning. 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.400 He's from the organized noise, you know, like you were 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.280 talking about our cast Dungeon Family. 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.360 I always thought you were in the Dungeon Family. 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:30.080 I am oh, yeah, I am, yeah, I am. I 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.600 am what it was. It's crazy. If you listen to 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.560 Dungeon Family, you listen to Kendrick, you hear the beauty 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:37.360 of influence. 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:38.240 Okay, then you. 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.640 Hear Kendrick give me a shout out, which is the 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:42.840 beauty of influence. And then you turn around and a 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.280 year after he bam, you look at me. I come 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:48.200 and sweep and it just shows you the perpetual energy. 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.719 It don't stop, it just keeps going because Curtis, may 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.439 feel gave the Dungeon Family certain energy. And that's why 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.800 the Dungeon Family could make you feel like a sample 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.319 even though when the sample so what they learned from Curtis, 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.480 they have parted on us Curtis will this big. The 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.880 first sample on my album is a Curtis sample, and 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.079 then they don't just give our samples like that. So 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.560 it's just amazing how energy flows, you know what I mean. 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.960 I just I'm appreciated to be able. Sleepy Brown call. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.320 Me like, hey man, you represent us well. You know, 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.160 like the Dungeon Family's never stopped being talked about. When 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.720 you hear never to dre on a record, that's the 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.920 Dungeon family, that's a Dungeon Family record. You know when 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.680 when DJ Paul It is part producer James Blake, and 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:32.120 you know you got yet on there. My man, no idea, 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.320 you have that harsh part you seeing something happened that 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.880 only happens in the South. People cooperate and collaborate. They're 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.360 not in so vested competition with each other. They won't 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.680 see each other fail. So this record managed just a 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.720 testament to love. It is truly a movie. So I'm 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.040 glad you brought that up. So for people who may 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.360 not get killing Michael, may not know who killing Mike is, 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.640 it's a great place to be introduced to killing Mike 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.600 because I'm Michael and I'd like to get to know you. 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.360 I just love you know, just show energy and how 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.800 positive you are just about just everything. And you know, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.640 seeing you in that Grammy, well those Grammys, I was like, man, 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.880 like this is just amazing, you know for the city 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:11.920 and just how hard you put on How long did 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.160 it took you to record the album. 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:14.880 Two and a half years? 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.360 Wow did you take breaks? 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.360 And you just like now we treated like a job. 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:24.200 Me and cous light Year. Cous light Year an amazing 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.480 and off from here and he's just my friend, like 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:29.760 shits twenty years, Like met him coming around out of 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.320 our school. Just felt a great relationship. He's one of 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:36.480 the most talented artists I've known that We had him 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.840 at Master Appeal had a deal with him and Master Piel. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.720 He put out a project that paper Frank, who did 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.560 the Gunner's album cover, shots out to Ghanna, Shouts out 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:48.280 to Frank. You know, they put together an amazing project 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:52.480 with this. Cousin light Year had had a design from 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.160 him two three years ago and Frank, she just an 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.960 amazing arts O respect and he was on Mass Appeal Records. 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.360 We actually about three four years ago and and me 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.400 and Cousins were working on a mixtape. I was like, 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:04.440 cuz you we need to double you right back, you 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:05.800 know what I mean. He had a record with Baby. 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.920 It was amazing, y'all, y'all check it out. So y'all 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.280 like it. And in the middle of it, we had 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:12.960 all these I had all these old records. I kind 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:14.800 of started freestyuse. So he was like, you know, he 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.480 was like, man, you know it's COVID. I was like, 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.800 I really want to do my record. And he said, 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:20.520 I'm gonna put my career on a whole and I'm 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:24.000 an all your record and do this. And that's my brother. 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:25.840 That love, that's love. 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:27.000 That's love. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.520 And he did that, and you get to hear the 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:31.440 fruit because it was just me and him in the room. 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.360 We was only month, but from the from the first 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.160 week and we and we did it like a job 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.200 because my God's son had just been born. We went 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.440 in Monday through Friday. We go in at ten o'clock 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.160 while we worked at the today shift, I mean the 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:44.960 third shift. We worked ten to four in the morning, 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:47.720 ten to six in the morning. And we did that 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.040 for two and a half years. And we took weekends off, 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:51.560 you know what I mean, let people be their families. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.680 And when I added that kind of structure and disciplined 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:55.800 in my life. The music got even better. I'd always 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.560 did good music, but the music got. 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.600 Even better and better and better. And that's that's not forming. 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:02.680 And we leaned into it and and that, and we 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.760 understood about a month and that what we what we 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:06.040 aiming for is Grammys. 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:07.040 We aiming for. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:11.200 Is is public accolades by way of making some of 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:12.560