Speaker 1: Word with me here.
Speaker 2: You know, BT, know how it goes, shout out O
Speaker 2: C T no real color what we see?
Speaker 3: Whole game?
Speaker 4: Wait the boer be something.
Speaker 3: Oh, you can't stand on their own. See I already
Speaker 3: know you can't bother with me because with the squad
Speaker 3: of me they get a little they called at me.
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Speaker 4: Of Ferrari Simmons. I go by the name you know
Speaker 4: BT from CET with that Killer.
Speaker 5: Mike, Get the.
Speaker 6: Killer Mike.
Speaker 2: Fourth time, grab your water, put in.
Speaker 6: Respect on it.
Speaker 7: Do you feel a little different, BT, I feel a
Speaker 7: lot different. I feel like I told y'all Ni you
Speaker 7: did you did?
Speaker 3: I remember because we were we were talking about your
Speaker 3: album on the Baller podcast. I want to say, as
Speaker 3: soon as it came out, it was a very great
Speaker 3: masterpiece of music. I want to talk to Killer Mike man.
Speaker 3: How long did it take for you to feel how
Speaker 3: you felt when you won those three for three?
Speaker 1: You was three for three? Sweet?
Speaker 3: Did you feel like it was a long time coming
Speaker 3: because I know the first Grammar you won that was
Speaker 3: with someone else.
Speaker 7: Yeah without without, these are yours? Yeah yeah, I mean
Speaker 7: I'm honest either way. I know, like I'm not ours.
Speaker 7: The won like I wanted to tag along. I wrapped
Speaker 7: my ass off. I felt accomplished. But man, with these accomplishments,
Speaker 7: you just want to accomplish more. And you know, winning
Speaker 7: them on my own means something. I still got some goals,
Speaker 7: Like my rap group Run the Jewels, we deserve a Grammar.
Speaker 7: Shouts out to my rap part in LP. He produced
Speaker 7: down wrapped on this, so he gets one by this.
Speaker 7: But I want to come back and win one, two, three,
Speaker 7: four more as Run the Jewels, like this is the
Speaker 7: beginning for me, Like this is this is a first
Speaker 7: solo album you heard from me in twelve years. So
Speaker 7: I'm a brand new artist. I'm not who I was
Speaker 7: twelve years ago, or one half of a mighty rap group.
Speaker 7: And I've just opened up another layer. So it's two
Speaker 7: more Michaels that are in store. And I went back
Speaker 7: to work the next day.
Speaker 2: Okay, and you said you put up you know, half
Speaker 2: a million for this project out of your own pocket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your own money. You used. My wife was not
Speaker 1: not half about it.
Speaker 4: She probably like, what's going on?
Speaker 1: What's wrong with you? That quarter me and out?
Speaker 7: She called me like like nigga, like, nigg you spend
Speaker 7: a quarter me and all this your hobby now, Nigga,
Speaker 7: this ain't running jewels as being.
Speaker 3: Married, these type of decisions like you conversed with each other.
Speaker 3: So how how would that conversation go?
Speaker 1: That went like how you catch that?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 6: But it paid off?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I believed she believed in me a long time.
Speaker 7: So I appreciate. You know, you got to have believers
Speaker 7: around you, and you know, my wife has believed in me.
Speaker 7: My my sisters have believed in me. My baby mothers
Speaker 7: have believed in me. You know, go back to high school.
Speaker 7: Old lovers have believed them. You and I just appreciate
Speaker 7: everybody they ever believed, even if you don't take the
Speaker 7: whole ride together, like it's important, search steps your way.
Speaker 7: It was like everybody got that baby mama. Sometimes you
Speaker 7: butt heads with you know what, And man, I hug
Speaker 7: her as tight as I do all the others because man,
Speaker 7: when I first wanted to do music, like it was
Speaker 7: me and her she believed she loved music we wrapped
Speaker 7: od B whole first album to each other, and no
Speaker 7: matter how the personal things got in between fell apart.
Speaker 7: She's a believer, so she wanted the people I call
Speaker 7: like we did it.
Speaker 1: Stuff that you was able to do that too.
Speaker 4: And I know that was a great feeling, man.
Speaker 8: And I just loved your speech about Atlanta and all,
Speaker 8: and like you were just so you know, prideful about
Speaker 8: where you was from, and you just you know, you
Speaker 8: made the city smile, man, like we do.
Speaker 7: Listen, man, we gotta we gotta plan the parade all.
Speaker 7: We gotta make that. I ain't playing.
Speaker 1: We gave parade to the Adeville Bike and we gave
Speaker 1: parade to high school. Right here. We're gonna given because
Speaker 1: it's for us, man.
Speaker 7: I said, just started on months ago at a at
Speaker 7: a Hawks game that me winning these Ramons would be ill.
Speaker 7: Was asked question. I said, man, it'd be like the
Speaker 7: Hawks again. They first one and be like the Fast,
Speaker 7: then they first be like the Brazen, and another one
Speaker 7: like the United doing again. And I meant that like
Speaker 7: this is for us, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 7: know I did the work, I got the studio all
Speaker 7: locked in, but this city has poured so much into me.
Speaker 7: Every people are believed in me in rooms I wasn't
Speaker 7: in if said my name and high favor, and I
Speaker 7: just I want to celebrate it with y'all all. So
Speaker 7: we're gonna we're gonna figure something out well and let
Speaker 7: us know we're there. Yeah, And I want to invite
Speaker 7: all the people. I want to invite the cool streamers.
Speaker 7: I don't know no about screaming. I want to invite Kyle,
Speaker 7: thank you for saying ya. I know your guy. I
Speaker 7: know your guy in wed but listen, I want to
Speaker 7: come to the room. I want to brave your room
Speaker 7: because Atlanta Steel One, I am. I it go, y'all player,
Speaker 7: just know I rock with you two on IM cheating
Speaker 7: for all of us, you know what I mean? Because
Speaker 7: I think that from a cultural standpoint, this is the
Speaker 7: this is the center of the black world culturally, and however,
Speaker 7: whoever's winning, we win it. Yeah, you know, I just
Speaker 7: want to just tell him that.
Speaker 4: Like y'all, I just blame it on the gen Z
Speaker 4: when I when I watched the movie.
Speaker 1: I ain't blaming it on nothing like I love y'all.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 7: If if you know, if you ever get treated bad
Speaker 7: on right there for you know what I mean, So
Speaker 7: I know how I go though, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: When I liked looking the Two Line Crew, my mama
Speaker 7: was more in the Salt and Pepper.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I get it, but I
Speaker 1: listened to both bands.
Speaker 7: So I'm gonna just say to young people out there,
Speaker 7: it ain't nothing wrong with expanding.
Speaker 1: It ain't nothing wrong with trying something else.
Speaker 7: It ain't nothing wrong, you know, with just giving, you know,
Speaker 7: having You don't have to be always in the crowd,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. Like I was a kid
Speaker 7: in the South, I listened to Biology. I listened to
Speaker 7: you GK. I listened to Luke, I listened to Poison Clan,
Speaker 7: the Dogs. I listened to everything out of textas the
Speaker 7: Ghetto Boys tell me right the third you know, coming
Speaker 7: out of Memphs.
Speaker 1: I listened to all South music.
Speaker 7: The only thing that made me exceptional, rhyme wise and
Speaker 7: different amongst my peer group at the time was I
Speaker 7: listened to East Coast music too, and I listened to
Speaker 7: Northern California music.
Speaker 1: So I listened to Hooglyphics.
Speaker 7: I listened to Far Side, you know, out of La
Speaker 7: I listened to the beat Nuts. I listened to Gangstar
Speaker 7: and Gangstar Foundation. I listened to Wu Tang Clan, so
Speaker 7: it gave me just enough edge. So when people say, man,
Speaker 7: how do you do it for twenty years stylistically, I've
Speaker 7: not been so married to something I die with it.
Speaker 7: So I just want to encourage all listeners out there.
Speaker 7: As a kid, I listened to as much rock and
Speaker 7: roll as I did RAP. I listened to Metallica, I
Speaker 7: listened to led Zeppelin. You just heard Tee Paine do
Speaker 7: a rendition of osiy Odsborne when he was with Black Sabbath.
Speaker 7: And you have to become culturally rich too, Like I
Speaker 7: know the people that you watching, you like and that stream,
Speaker 7: and you agree with them and they agree with you.
Speaker 7: That's a good feeling to be a part of that.
Speaker 7: But bring something else to the club. Be the person
Speaker 7: to say, let me turn you onto this. If you
Speaker 7: love Andre three thousand, you should know who Port's Head is.
Speaker 7: Well why Because Port's Head affected Andre three thousand and
Speaker 7: ninety five ninety six in a way that radically changed
Speaker 7: the way he approached music. So you should always want
Speaker 7: to know what's the source of the source teaching you
Speaker 7: know what I mean. So I'm just saying, get on
Speaker 7: a big brush shot. If you don't rock with it,
Speaker 7: don't rock with it. But you know I want and
Speaker 7: I'm gonna win again, and I'm gonna win again, and
Speaker 7: I'm gonna win again.
Speaker 1: Love y'all.
Speaker 3: I wanted to say, I respect so how so I
Speaker 3: respect so much? How mentally sharp and articulated you are?
Speaker 3: Where did that come from?
Speaker 7: Atlanta Public schools APS call your Heights Elementary, Frederick Doull's
Speaker 7: High School or later Moore House College. I want to
Speaker 7: thank all the teachers who meant so much to me,
Speaker 7: the ones I still talk to, like Mr Murray from
Speaker 7: Frederick Douglas High School who was my art teacher. Shannon McCullen,
Speaker 7: who's little y'all, his dad his art teacher, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean.
Speaker 1: I want to thank people like Miss Pritchett, who's the
Speaker 1: you still remember all of these people.
Speaker 7: I can tell you every teacher from every grade I
Speaker 7: had because they made that impression on them, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean? Even the ones I didn't like. They
Speaker 7: gave me a challenge to say, I'm gonna show you
Speaker 7: I'm gonna overcome this. So for me, yeah, absolutely, that's important. Yeah,
Speaker 7: So I want to get shouts out to Atlanta Public
Speaker 7: School and just I want to let the kids in,
Speaker 7: particularly Frederick Douglas, know that you guys are great. Y'all
Speaker 7: are worthy, and y'all keep being a prime example of
Speaker 7: greatness in spite of the obstacles. And I want to
Speaker 7: tell their their arrival Benjamin E. Mays, y'all only as
Speaker 7: good as y'all rival. So y'all got to keep sharply
Speaker 7: in each other. You know, our our current Mayle went
Speaker 7: to Maize, but his right hand man, oh there is
Speaker 7: a nashtro So you know, y'all raiders wouldn't be no.
Speaker 3: Over there now. But so who was killer Mike Michael
Speaker 3: growing up?
Speaker 1: Man, You listen to the album and you see it's
Speaker 1: right now. It's all in the album.
Speaker 2: The way that the record is sonically, it kind of
Speaker 2: like feels like you're there exactly.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, Yeah, you're not, you're not. You're not.
Speaker 7: As much as hearing the album, you're watching the movie from.
Speaker 2: The choirs that you have in there, like you even
Speaker 2: got a gospel record.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a Tears with Mazie.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so the current words out they still wouldn't let
Speaker 7: us get the gospel that we tried. I gotta ask Cray, like,
Speaker 7: how I get in on the gospel. I stopped cutting.
Speaker 7: I gotta see if we gotta have like one mandatory
Speaker 7: Jesus in there somewhere. The craft shouts out of my
Speaker 7: man of Craig. Yeah, this did see is the Godfather one.
Speaker 7: And Michael two is gonna be the Godfather too, and
Speaker 7: Michael three is gonna be better than the Godfather three
Speaker 7: was because the Godfather. Although people to classify as against
Speaker 7: the movie, my kids have seen it so much because
Speaker 7: it's a family movie.
Speaker 1: To me.
Speaker 7: You get a chance to see Vido Coleon who was orphaned,
Speaker 7: become a man and raise a family. Now he's a criminal,
Speaker 7: only criminal things happened, but your granddaddy sold moonshine a
Speaker 7: crack depending on how your granddaddy is. But your granddadd
Speaker 7: have reformed his life, changed it to a great man.
Speaker 7: And now your great dadd and one of your biggest
Speaker 7: So for me, I wanted you to see the story
Speaker 7: of a nine year old boy growing up in a
Speaker 7: city that had just been plighted with the missing and
Speaker 7: murdered children that crack had entered and changed the world
Speaker 7: that his grandmother all she knew was Jesus, so she
Speaker 7: clung to the cross and helped them. Now, I wanted
Speaker 7: you to see the movie of a black American kid
Speaker 7: who always heard you can, you must, you will, and
Speaker 7: then here you can't. It ain't gonna ever gonna happen
Speaker 7: for you, It ain't fus. I wanted you to see
Speaker 7: the story of obstacles overcome through baby Mammy, some bad decisions,
Speaker 7: and through making right decisions and growing. And I wanted
Speaker 7: it to feel like a movie. I didn't want it
Speaker 7: to feel like I'm just hearing this song to turn
Speaker 7: up and then maybe I get another turn up record.
Speaker 1: I wanted you to be able to turn up within
Speaker 1: the experience.
Speaker 7: So whether you know most dope boy songs are telling
Speaker 7: you I sold dope the bad My Dope Boys song
Speaker 7: just felt like a barbecue in the hood because it
Speaker 7: was with Spider and two Chinese and sometimes the dope
Speaker 7: boys not the villains, they just the dudes that made it.
Speaker 7: Got a hustle going and feed everybody once a month
Speaker 7: on Saturdays, because you know they throwing they barbecue. You're
Speaker 7: gonna get to see the cool car. So it's not
Speaker 7: all blighted, it's not all bad for black people. We smile,
Speaker 7: We love each other, you know, our mothers die, We
Speaker 7: more and we cry and the next day, you know,
Speaker 7: we understand that we got to get up. There never
Speaker 7: been a record like something for junkies. Well, we talked about,
Speaker 7: you know, everybody got an uncle lord on everybody to
Speaker 7: come and now who else? What other rapper? And again,
Speaker 7: like I'm talking to my my homies, who I listen to?
Speaker 1: The music you listen to?
Speaker 7: I like it, But at some point, man, you know
Speaker 7: you're gonna have to come to terms with that the
Speaker 7: real life hits you to and my record to death
Speaker 7: for you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that's that's what That's what I think ultimately.
Speaker 7: You know, there's some days where all them listening to
Speaker 7: is rap, and the some days where all I'm gonna
Speaker 7: listen to is John Coltran's Love Supreme. You know, there's
Speaker 7: some days all I'm gonna listen to is is me
Speaker 7: and my wife ride around listening to Sinatra and were
Speaker 7: listening to Nat King Call because we just cruised and
Speaker 7: we in love and that's how we want to hear about,
Speaker 7: you know. So I want to encourage people to seek
Speaker 7: other musics that you may not have thought of, because
Speaker 7: they represent your mood as much as you know, turn
Speaker 7: it up.
Speaker 4: And I agree with that.
Speaker 2: But I think that's why the Grammys is great because
Speaker 2: it you know, when somebody wins, you don't know them,
Speaker 2: you know, go explore.
Speaker 7: That, you know.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like watching a movie.
Speaker 8: And one of the records that I that I love
Speaker 8: is when when I feel like you were speaking the
Speaker 8: terms that's really relatable when you said, yo, you tweaking
Speaker 8: my nigga, like like like really talking like how we
Speaker 8: talked amongst our friends and I'm listening, I'm like, like
Speaker 8: it's in the twisting and click.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it all went together, Yes, but it all
Speaker 6: went together.
Speaker 2: And I heard you say in one of your interviews
Speaker 2: that Ray Murray was a part of the U, the
Speaker 2: keeping it.
Speaker 1: The thing south. Yeah, he gave it. It gave it
Speaker 1: us a challenge.
Speaker 7: He said, it has to be southern, it has to
Speaker 7: be distinctly Southern, and it has to be as cohesive
Speaker 7: as the running and then he just walked out the room.
Speaker 7: And then because like you look at each other like shit,
Speaker 7: because that's a challenge because you got to meet the
Speaker 7: challenge when it's given as God speaking through somebody. But boy,
Speaker 7: that's a hell of a challenge to hell when you
Speaker 7: think you have made the greatest mistaped off and you're like, God, damn,
Speaker 7: we got a ways to go.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, only coming. And he's from the beginning.
Speaker 2: He's from the organized noise, you know, like you were
Speaker 2: talking about our cast Dungeon Family.
Speaker 3: I always thought you were in the Dungeon Family.
Speaker 7: I am oh, yeah, I am, yeah, I am. I
Speaker 7: am what it was. It's crazy. If you listen to
Speaker 7: Dungeon Family, you listen to Kendrick, you hear the beauty
Speaker 7: of influence.
Speaker 1: Okay, then you.
Speaker 7: Hear Kendrick give me a shout out, which is the
Speaker 7: beauty of influence. And then you turn around and a
Speaker 7: year after he bam, you look at me. I come
Speaker 7: and sweep and it just shows you the perpetual energy.
Speaker 7: It don't stop, it just keeps going because Curtis, may
Speaker 7: feel gave the Dungeon Family certain energy. And that's why
Speaker 7: the Dungeon Family could make you feel like a sample
Speaker 7: even though when the sample so what they learned from Curtis,
Speaker 7: they have parted on us Curtis will this big. The
Speaker 7: first sample on my album is a Curtis sample, and
Speaker 7: then they don't just give our samples like that. So
Speaker 7: it's just amazing how energy flows, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I just I'm appreciated to be able. Sleepy Brown call.
Speaker 7: Me like, hey man, you represent us well. You know,
Speaker 7: like the Dungeon Family's never stopped being talked about. When
Speaker 7: you hear never to dre on a record, that's the
Speaker 7: Dungeon family, that's a Dungeon Family record. You know when
Speaker 7: when DJ Paul It is part producer James Blake, and
Speaker 7: you know you got yet on there. My man, no idea,
Speaker 7: you have that harsh part you seeing something happened that
Speaker 7: only happens in the South. People cooperate and collaborate. They're
Speaker 7: not in so vested competition with each other. They won't
Speaker 7: see each other fail. So this record managed just a
Speaker 7: testament to love. It is truly a movie. So I'm
Speaker 7: glad you brought that up. So for people who may
Speaker 7: not get killing Michael, may not know who killing Mike is,
Speaker 7: it's a great place to be introduced to killing Mike
Speaker 7: because I'm Michael and I'd like to get to know you.
Speaker 8: I just love you know, just show energy and how
Speaker 8: positive you are just about just everything. And you know,
Speaker 8: seeing you in that Grammy, well those Grammys, I was like, man,
Speaker 8: like this is just amazing, you know for the city
Speaker 8: and just how hard you put on How long did
Speaker 8: it took you to record the album.
Speaker 1: Two and a half years?
Speaker 3: Wow did you take breaks?
Speaker 7: And you just like now we treated like a job.
Speaker 7: Me and cous light Year. Cous light Year an amazing
Speaker 7: and off from here and he's just my friend, like
Speaker 7: shits twenty years, Like met him coming around out of
Speaker 7: our school. Just felt a great relationship. He's one of
Speaker 7: the most talented artists I've known that We had him
Speaker 7: at Master Appeal had a deal with him and Master Piel.
Speaker 7: He put out a project that paper Frank, who did
Speaker 7: the Gunner's album cover, shots out to Ghanna, Shouts out
Speaker 7: to Frank. You know, they put together an amazing project
Speaker 7: with this. Cousin light Year had had a design from
Speaker 7: him two three years ago and Frank, she just an
Speaker 7: amazing arts O respect and he was on Mass Appeal Records.
Speaker 7: We actually about three four years ago and and me
Speaker 7: and Cousins were working on a mixtape. I was like,
Speaker 7: cuz you we need to double you right back, you
Speaker 7: know what I mean. He had a record with Baby.
Speaker 7: It was amazing, y'all, y'all check it out. So y'all
Speaker 7: like it. And in the middle of it, we had
Speaker 7: all these I had all these old records. I kind
Speaker 7: of started freestyuse. So he was like, you know, he
Speaker 7: was like, man, you know it's COVID. I was like,
Speaker 7: I really want to do my record. And he said,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna put my career on a whole and I'm
Speaker 7: an all your record and do this. And that's my brother.
Speaker 4: That love, that's love.
Speaker 1: That's love.
Speaker 7: And he did that, and you get to hear the
Speaker 7: fruit because it was just me and him in the room.
Speaker 7: We was only month, but from the from the first
Speaker 7: week and we and we did it like a job
Speaker 7: because my God's son had just been born. We went
Speaker 7: in Monday through Friday. We go in at ten o'clock
Speaker 7: while we worked at the today shift, I mean the
Speaker 7: third shift. We worked ten to four in the morning,
Speaker 7: ten to six in the morning. And we did that
Speaker 7: for two and a half years. And we took weekends off,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, let people be their families.
Speaker 7: And when I added that kind of structure and disciplined
Speaker 7: in my life. The music got even better. I'd always
Speaker 7: did good music, but the music got.
Speaker 1: Even better and better and better. And that's that's not forming.
Speaker 7: And we leaned into it and and that, and we
Speaker 7: understood about a month and that what we what we
Speaker 7: aiming for is Grammys.
Speaker 1: We aiming for.
Speaker 7: Is is public accolades by way of making some of
Speaker 7: the dopest art possible.
Speaker 1: And we pulled the ship off and we're Yeah, were
Speaker 1: in the studio, I said, Grammys. The next night. I
Speaker 1: was in there with Mike.
Speaker 7: We'll shout out the mic and you know, notes shouts
Speaker 7: out notes and Wilder, who are from the production team,
Speaker 7: that that.
Speaker 1: That co producers would run the jewel. So yeah, the
Speaker 1: work don't stop.
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of how you love your wife.
Speaker 7: I'm happily married.
Speaker 3: And I just know that, you know in the industry
Speaker 3: where people don't really highlight their significant other the way
Speaker 3: that you do. One time, for shake, can you shed
Speaker 3: a little light on on your wife? Where were you
Speaker 3: in your life when you met her?
Speaker 1: Like I was up?
Speaker 7: How did y'all cross paths? Like we just had b
Speaker 7: T saften she was she was she was. She was
Speaker 7: I think she was freshman, like I think she had
Speaker 7: just started school. She wanted to be a nurse or
Speaker 7: son she wanted to be like she wanted to be
Speaker 7: a nurse. And she was at the table and the
Speaker 7: homegirl sought me. They who killer like no scared as you,
Speaker 7: and the whole girl got excited and she was, you know,
Speaker 7: she was fronting on me.
Speaker 1: She I ain't know he like, she really counted.
Speaker 7: She's introverted in the shot, you know, she looked like
Speaker 7: one of these hot girls, but she really be. She
Speaker 7: at the end of the table so and I didn't know.
Speaker 7: She don't like people playing with a plain ofough food.
Speaker 7: She want them German folks. I reached the her plate
Speaker 7: and just grabbed son and just ate this piece of shrimp.
Speaker 7: And she cussed me out. Well she went off, and thankfully,
Speaker 7: you know, I wanted you know, I was pride for
Speaker 7: the egotistical at the time. But thankfully I wasn't on
Speaker 7: no niggas shit. I'd be like, shut your mother, man,
Speaker 7: I ain't you know what I'm saying. It just turned
Speaker 7: the damn myth. I was just trying to eat what
Speaker 7: you know, I mean, I played off cute got out
Speaker 7: of there. But I never forgot what she looked like.
Speaker 7: She was this weird colored brown. She had freckles, and
Speaker 7: I didn't know she was born a redhead. Her hair
Speaker 7: colored was.
Speaker 1: I loved her.
Speaker 7: It's weird, though it's weird, I just remember it. This
Speaker 7: girl was beautiful, but I never forgot what she looked like.
Speaker 1: Never forgot.
Speaker 7: And I had I was in a party and she
Speaker 7: walked in the parties at Big Boys Old house. He
Speaker 7: was doing like a radio party remote something and I
Speaker 7: seen her walk in and I was.
Speaker 1: Like, well, I'll be damn, it's the same girl.
Speaker 7: And and seeing her all these other girls walking in too,
Speaker 7: and you know, the Atlanta scene is real social. It's
Speaker 7: just too many other girls. I'm like, I gotta get
Speaker 7: I gotta get by myself, Like I had to get
Speaker 7: away from all the other all the dancers gonna speak
Speaker 7: to you.
Speaker 1: So I just got in the corner by myself.
Speaker 7: And she saw me counting by myself and was like,
Speaker 7: this is not the same guy, in the same energy,
Speaker 7: and she and she had asked her guy friends to
Speaker 7: she came with her like in radio intry guys and.
Speaker 1: They was like Mike's a nice guy. You see, he's smart.
Speaker 7: If he you know, if he attempted to take you out,
Speaker 7: you should go out and against her better judgment. She did,
Speaker 7: and and I'll never forget she she met me at
Speaker 7: the athlete's foot I think across from because she was
Speaker 7: having to bringing me.
Speaker 1: I think the bitch were for camouflage. God bless the
Speaker 1: dead the Savannah rapper.
Speaker 7: And shouts out engratulations young lady. But I I neverget
Speaker 7: she brought me. She brought it to me, and I
Speaker 7: seen her and I remember those eyes and be honest, like,
Speaker 7: I remember, I remember the tits and then when she
Speaker 7: walked the leave, I said, damn, she got an ass too.
Speaker 7: So yeah, like she was in my phone, it's as
Speaker 7: nice tits. Like when I went to visit her the
Speaker 7: first time I realized I was dating a girl in
Speaker 7: the back of the apartments that she had lived in,
Speaker 7: and she she was like I remember pulling up on
Speaker 7: that girl later like, look, it's been nice.
Speaker 1: We done have some great times. But I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: I ain't even gonna probably call you.
Speaker 3: Know, so you said this over so you broke with everybody,
Speaker 3: and kid doing can't I broke everybody?
Speaker 7: But that I won't gonna be putting up at your apartment,
Speaker 7: like I wan't gonna be the apartment nigga, I won't
Speaker 7: gonna do that.
Speaker 1: But but I just you know, I loved her and
Speaker 1: I still do.
Speaker 7: And Ozzy Osborne put up something a few days ago
Speaker 7: where he was like, you know, talking about his wife
Speaker 7: shared he said, sometimes I love her, sometimes I hate
Speaker 7: her sometimes you know, she she she I'm jealous of her.
Speaker 7: Just he just had to pull out of emotion. And
Speaker 7: and that's really what it is to me, Like, that's
Speaker 7: my dog, you know, she she has I remember my
Speaker 7: mom saying to me one time.
Speaker 1: She was like, why wouldn't you ask me? And then
Speaker 1: she's like, nah, I don't worry about it. And I
Speaker 1: was like, what, this is my mother?
Speaker 7: She said, because you only trust your grandmother and shade
Speaker 7: like that in that particular way. You know, her and
Speaker 7: my grandmother both geminis. They can be incredibly sweet or
Speaker 7: incredibly mean, you know what I mean. But that's my girl,
Speaker 7: that's my dog, that's my that's my partner.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I used to tell the dance, but if you want me,
Speaker 7: I want you to just go work it out with her.
Speaker 1: What made I don't know. If I could tell you
Speaker 1: that I could bring the spell, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Just the feeling you have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just you know, and it came straight. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I believe, you know, I don't.
Speaker 7: I believe that that love is a complex thing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: I still love all the children and my mother's I
Speaker 7: mean all my all the the mothers of my children,
Speaker 7: love them like sincerely love them. I ain't trying to
Speaker 7: take nobody from their man, but if they need no
Speaker 7: but you know what I'm saying. But but her is
Speaker 7: just man, I can't get rid of it. I can't
Speaker 7: get rid of it. I'd have tried, she didn't tried.
Speaker 7: And here we go.
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Speaker 1: Hey, what's up? Is that boy killer? From the Vial Killer?
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Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 3: I remember during COVID, you know, it was a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff going on in Atlanta, and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: they called you a tip to go calm the city down.
Speaker 1: Oh you mean the what'son?
Speaker 3: I was the Riots, and I always loved the you
Speaker 3: articulated yourself just in every situation that I've seen you in,
Speaker 3: and I definitely look up to you just as a
Speaker 3: as a man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: You ever thought about, you know, running, I thought it
Speaker 3: was a little my way.
Speaker 1: Run. Her shouts out to Alley.
Speaker 3: No, I'm talking about running for mayors.
Speaker 1: Three.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to go on, run.
Speaker 1: I try going to tell your music run.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you never you never thought about it at all.
Speaker 6: Your daddy did call you a leader?
Speaker 1: Yeah? He did.
Speaker 7: My father did You are a leader? And I recognize that.
Speaker 7: I just I think that this is I'm called to
Speaker 7: do what I'm called to do. And my grandmother told me,
Speaker 7: you do what you're called to do while your community,
Speaker 7: because that's what you're supposed to do. And right now
Speaker 7: in my life, I'm much more comfortable supporting the dynamic
Speaker 7: series of mayors Atlanta has had. Each mayor has brought
Speaker 7: a series of nuances, improved the city, whether it was
Speaker 7: Mayer or city contracts, and the involvement in the Black
Speaker 7: Dollar where it was Andy and getting the Olympics here
Speaker 7: and again expanding back dollar. What surely's been able to
Speaker 7: do the reorganize the cities water system. When she's done
Speaker 7: what Cassine did in terms of partnering with the state
Speaker 7: and doing things that hadn't been done over forty fifty years,
Speaker 7: bringing income. You're keeping Tyler Perry here, what Keisha did?
Speaker 7: You know what I mean in terms of just bringing
Speaker 7: bring what the water works open and beyond at the
Speaker 7: West Side Park, She's been able to do and put
Speaker 7: in a pause on a tab a taxation that kept
Speaker 7: all people keep the house on the West Side. What
Speaker 7: Andre's now doing now in terms of homelessness and affordable housing.
Speaker 7: All these mayors have brought something. And since Andy's you
Speaker 7: know ran when out five, my redmother had me knocking
Speaker 7: on the doors with her. I've supported Atlanta's mayor's Atlanta
Speaker 7: City council. You know, you look at Antonio Lewis as
Speaker 7: the city counciling down there in the same area that
Speaker 7: thug is from.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 7: Some of the innovative ideas he had, like giving out
Speaker 7: those free gun bags and safe so when you leave
Speaker 7: your firearm you go into the White House, you might
Speaker 7: leave your fire mean and little boys break your window.
Speaker 7: Next thing you know, they got a Dangier's farm. Lewis
Speaker 7: was passing, was pushing the mayor a measure that would
Speaker 7: use a gun bag the same way in my car,
Speaker 7: you can't steal it. He gonna have to take the
Speaker 7: whole car, the whole seat with him. That's a genius idea.
Speaker 1: He knows that because he grew up in in that cord.
Speaker 7: So my thing is I rather than right now in
Speaker 7: my life, be supporting those type of candidates, supporting the
Speaker 7: mayors we have, supporting the city council. The Chamber of
Speaker 7: Comments is doing right by us because I would only
Speaker 7: be a distraction right now because I still like singing
Speaker 7: and dancing and smoking weed to go into the flame.
Speaker 7: And I mean, yeah, I ain't nothing wrong with the
Speaker 7: mayor going to the flat.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go to the flight while I'm mayor.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just gonna.
Speaker 1: I'm on the Doday ship right now to give.
Speaker 2: But that was my question, what brought you back to,
Speaker 2: you know, making this this project because you know, you were,
Speaker 2: like you said, like the Dungeon family and all that.
Speaker 2: You know, you had a career prior and then it
Speaker 2: seemed like you became like a super entrepreneur.
Speaker 6: You had the barbershop.
Speaker 1: You yeah, isn't it one?
Speaker 4: It's one?
Speaker 7: Yeah, But you can't forget this little thing called Run
Speaker 7: the Jewels. Run the Jewels is a rap group. For
Speaker 7: the eleven last eleven years has been one of the
Speaker 7: most successful touring rap groups in the world. Run the
Speaker 7: Jewels one, two and three and four one t J four.
Speaker 7: We've been compared to groups as vast as outcasts, groups
Speaker 7: that has a longevity eight Bolling m JG. We've been
Speaker 7: said to be a rap group operating in the rock
Speaker 7: and roll world. We play one hundred thousand people at
Speaker 7: Glacksonbury and over in the UK. We pay on average
Speaker 7: forty to fifty thousand people at things like pitch Forth VEZ.
Speaker 1: So I was good.
Speaker 6: Okay, so you last Ben you never stopped.
Speaker 1: Never stopped, a big rich I'm good.
Speaker 7: Don't nobody cry for me, don't ye like I suffered
Speaker 7: the first nine years of my career figuring out who
Speaker 7: I was. I met LP. We produced and put out
Speaker 7: rap music twelve years ago from William Street's Records here,
Speaker 7: which reinvented who I Was. That led to a group
Speaker 7: called Run the Jews. If for the last eleven years
Speaker 7: been dominant on the touring, on tour, and you know
Speaker 7: rap charts, We've had a number ten record come in
Speaker 7: terms of bill Board, We've been number one rap. So
Speaker 7: I've never not had a career. I just ain't been
Speaker 7: with my people.
Speaker 1: You understand. I said, I know you love me running
Speaker 1: the Jewels, but these my nigga flows.
Speaker 7: I said that because I had been an accent from y'all,
Speaker 7: But nigga, I'm back and I brought a broom. So
Speaker 7: what kept me going was the fact I never stopped.
Speaker 7: My greatest talent has just been consistency. Just keeps showing up,
Speaker 7: Get up and show up. If I had this attitude
Speaker 7: toward the gym, I'll be honest for us and nap
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. Lord knows I'm trying to develop.
Speaker 1: It, but you just keep getting up and keep rapping.
Speaker 7: So what happened is run the Jews has We've had
Speaker 7: a successful four album run again.
Speaker 1: We just did. We just did.
Speaker 7: We did sixteen shows in four different cities. We did
Speaker 7: in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and LA. We did
Speaker 7: all four of our albums every night. We did a
Speaker 7: different album every night. Every show was sold out, including
Speaker 7: the Eastern in Atlanta, So don't again.
Speaker 1: I'm good y'all. You know what I'm saying when I
Speaker 1: say enrich a nigga nigga rich for real? Right?
Speaker 7: But I understood right when I was raking rap music.
Speaker 7: If you I don't want to have to do what
Speaker 7: others want you to do, You're gonna have to learn
Speaker 7: to become an entrepreneur. I bought my first barbershop over
Speaker 7: the internet. My wife told me I was crazy and
Speaker 7: then talked to me for two weeks because she said,
Speaker 7: you should have let them go out of business and
Speaker 7: just when they got space. She's always been a business
Speaker 7: savvy woman. We now have three, including one in Phillips Arena,
Speaker 7: I mean Well States, and we're broadening to three more
Speaker 7: in the up and coming year. And what we really
Speaker 7: have is a brand masquerading as a shop. Because the
Speaker 7: swag shop shells hoodies, we sell the olders, we sell soaps,
Speaker 7: we sell a bunch of things that men don't want.
Speaker 7: I don't want to have to leave the barber shop.
Speaker 7: Go to the beauty supply store, go to the men
Speaker 7: want it all right there? You know, my wife could
Speaker 7: shop all day and everything in the same store.
Speaker 1: I like getting.
Speaker 7: Everything on one stop shop. So we found a formula
Speaker 7: that helps us so that real estate development. I knew
Speaker 7: that I was on the west side. I knew that
Speaker 7: that was four mile driving to downtown or walking in downtown.
Speaker 7: I knew that made since my grandparents had I owned
Speaker 7: a house. They never saw my grandpa's house. They always
Speaker 7: had something to go. I said, how can I maximize
Speaker 7: and do that? I got a sixty thousand dollars check out.
Speaker 1: Of nowhere one time?
Speaker 7: When about our first property? That door's grown into multiple
Speaker 7: doors now with.
Speaker 6: Somebody teach you about the real estate game, or you
Speaker 6: just I was a dope.
Speaker 7: Wasn't named fast to you when I was a kid
Speaker 7: and I had seen him and there was a there
Speaker 7: was a man named big Unk who's brilliant here big
Speaker 7: record company y'all might have heard of, and he did it.
Speaker 7: And you know my art teacher, Mster Murray, who now
Speaker 7: teaches his kids to grow food. What would tell us
Speaker 7: you need to buy around? So black folks ain't crazy?
Speaker 7: And I didn't have to find no internet crew. Y'all,
Speaker 7: y'all stop giving these niggas y'all money to give y'all advice.
Speaker 7: Y'all can find yourself. All you gotta do is put
Speaker 7: a little work in. All you gotta do is be
Speaker 7: willing to stay up a little later. And we'd I
Speaker 7: see shan to do it all the time. She'll hear
Speaker 7: about son, she'll go investigate it, she'll go read it,
Speaker 7: she'll teach me about it.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, just stuff, I go investigate
Speaker 1: on my awmbles. Stop giving people money trying to do
Speaker 1: it the fast away. Sometimes you just gotta you.
Speaker 7: Gotta do it, you know, you know you you know
Speaker 7: what a house rent for depending on this condition, get something,
Speaker 7: get a duplex, live on one side, rent the other side.
Speaker 7: So just common sense brought me to it. And then
Speaker 7: I just start and then and then as your money grow,
Speaker 7: you know, you take advice from people you' seen do
Speaker 7: it well.
Speaker 1: You ask them.
Speaker 7: So whether that's big boy who's been amazingly smart with money,
Speaker 7: Shaquille O'Neil, people like that, they start talking about investing.
Speaker 6: You know, you start, what was some of the advice
Speaker 6: they gave you?
Speaker 7: Man invest, invest and find a find a sound financial person,
Speaker 7: not somebody who's trying to give you a return in
Speaker 7: ninety days, and make the long term twenty year investments
Speaker 7: about stocks you by bunch, you don't look.
Speaker 1: At them for twenty thirty years.
Speaker 7: You're you're planning a seed for a tree that's gonna
Speaker 7: grow you might not never get to see. But you
Speaker 7: gotta y'all live. I'm gonna tell you the first thing
Speaker 7: all of us can do. Live at a below your means.
Speaker 7: Get a monthly budget for yourself. What's my budget? My budget?
Speaker 7: I average about twenty thousand dollars a month at one point,
Speaker 7: so I know I gotta make quarter million dollars.
Speaker 1: A year just to meet bills and budget. So you
Speaker 1: start to say to yourself.
Speaker 7: Shit, boy, I might not need the goddamn do this,
Speaker 7: goddamn nobu tonight.
Speaker 1: What that's a doll I don't want to go over
Speaker 1: and for you.
Speaker 7: What you'll be saying is, man, I don't think Sponge
Speaker 7: Divis is gonna do it for me tonight.
Speaker 1: I need to say this. Three hundred bucks shout ain't
Speaker 1: gonna fuck anyway to the niggas. Aint gonna get on
Speaker 1: that meat.
Speaker 6: Advice for Valentine's Day coming up?
Speaker 1: Oh do something man. I remember me and Shane was
Speaker 1: we was on our.
Speaker 7: Ass and well, I again I was, you know, we're
Speaker 7: still kind of danged.
Speaker 1: So it was like, you know, it was a few
Speaker 1: thousand dollars show here, but.
Speaker 7: Man, she she laid out a blanket and she had
Speaker 7: made a picnic for us, and we did.
Speaker 1: A It was so sweet, kind of like this poor girl.
Speaker 1: I could have took her to the.
Speaker 7: Steakhouse and she just did a picnic right there in
Speaker 7: the middle of like an extra bedroom o place. And
Speaker 7: I've never forgotten that it was out one. So I'm
Speaker 7: just tell people out there, you know, it's cool to
Speaker 7: buy stuff and to have expectations and stuff, but you know,
Speaker 7: just do something nice for each other. Write each other letter,
Speaker 7: prepare food for each other. You know, you can bottle
Speaker 7: of per film and a boll of the colown. You know,
Speaker 7: set a budget of for yourself, say we only go
Speaker 7: spend one hundred, one hundred and fifty bucks on each other,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean?
Speaker 7: And and that way you not out of her fifty
Speaker 7: cent talk about his grandfather and his grandmother that my
Speaker 7: grandparents were similar.
Speaker 1: He says.
Speaker 7: His grandfather is brought to check home his grandmother. He said,
Speaker 7: how the hell he's got your grandfather? You're crazy, man,
Speaker 7: what you're doing you're just giving all your money. But
Speaker 7: if a woman is like Proverbs, you know, was a
Speaker 7: Proverbs thirty one ten to thirty one, talk about a
Speaker 7: virtuous woman, the type of woman you want. She gonna
Speaker 7: a woman see the money, she know the budget in
Speaker 7: her head. All you give what I'm saying. So if
Speaker 7: you say, you know, if you say, well we don't
Speaker 7: do two and I know I got two hundred, she
Speaker 7: ain't gonna let you take him no place crazy. She's
Speaker 7: gonna be care because you know, she's gonna say, well,
Speaker 7: if you'd like the perfunerals, he's the three perfumals. I
Speaker 7: like the most is eighty three. And that's what you've moved,
Speaker 7: really moving like a couple and you in a relationship.
Speaker 7: So you know, if that and and if that ain't
Speaker 7: how she moved, fuck her for real. It ain't all
Speaker 7: the way back because because because you gotta take care
Speaker 7: of yourself. And if she not moving that way, she's
Speaker 7: not gonna move like that long term. That's a fact,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. She's not gonna move like
Speaker 7: that long term. And you want somebody, you want somebody,
Speaker 7: or if you're just fucking out, just fuck off, you know,
Speaker 7: what I mean, But don't don't get that money matter, man,
Speaker 7: That money matter. That matter a lot more than people.
Speaker 4: On a lot of people don't. A lot of people
Speaker 4: don't want to hear that.
Speaker 1: Yeah you don't.
Speaker 7: You don't think it matter till you need some and
Speaker 7: and and if y'all not locked in like that together,
Speaker 7: what y'all can say, Man, we're gonna budget this, so
Speaker 7: we still gonna have a good time. It's gonna you're
Speaker 7: gonna have to get creative like that. That don't don't
Speaker 7: don't waste, don't waste each other's time.
Speaker 2: So I just wanted to keep on track. We were
Speaker 2: at the Entrepreneur. You had the barbershops.
Speaker 1: Then you said seafood opening.
Speaker 7: Okay, yep, Me and Tilp talk the old restaurant, bake
Speaker 7: here seafood, Miss Hell and Harden and Crystal Peters and
Speaker 7: Shane and rendered my wife have done an amazing job
Speaker 7: at bringing that fruition. The old building is now a
Speaker 7: brand new building. If you drive down down Lee Highway,
Speaker 7: I think sixteen sixty five.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say that needs to be like a grandfather.
Speaker 7: In Yeah, location were down there and we serving alcohol.
Speaker 7: You'll be able to get to run the Jewels Beer there.
Speaker 7: A lot of you guys don't know running Jewels has
Speaker 7: the Spirits company. You can buy and have our stuff
Speaker 7: shift to you, but our beer is gonna be served there.
Speaker 7: It's an excellent menu. We even got some of y'all vegans.
Speaker 7: Do know why y'all don't eat no fish, But we
Speaker 7: got you. I got you, my nigga, I promise, and
Speaker 7: I want you all to enjoy it. And I'm not
Speaker 7: trying to do everything. I'm just trying to do all
Speaker 7: the things I wanted to do.
Speaker 6: And then where did Greenwood come in?
Speaker 7: Greenwood? So Greenwood is a is A is a fintech farm.
Speaker 7: It's a banking platform and what it does is partners
Speaker 7: with banks that are regional, smaller and willing to have
Speaker 7: trust in the working class folks, folks who may not
Speaker 7: have had the best credit, Folks who are first timers,
Speaker 7: and they just resourced them to get them together. And
Speaker 7: they're opening having some other opportunities now in terms of
Speaker 7: opening things to help people understand financial literacy. They partner
Speaker 7: with an employment firm. Ryan Glover and Paul Judge are
Speaker 7: the are the spearhead of that. And you guys probably
Speaker 7: should have them come in and talk about it. Because
Speaker 7: Ryan's a kid from Oakland who went to Howard University
Speaker 7: landing in Atlanta, helped start Noontime Records, came out of
Speaker 7: the record industry, created you know, Bounced TV, sold It's
Speaker 7: you know, for lots of money, and then decided he
Speaker 7: wanted to help people understand finance and help the you know,
Speaker 7: the unbanked. Bek and I think he's a hero.
Speaker 6: We would love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you set that up.
Speaker 3: I get a bear, shoot whoever, I'll get.
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm I'm always gonna be here making music in
Speaker 7: some capacity, and I understand life get to be, but
Speaker 7: I try to make music that's reflective for that. So
Speaker 7: I would encourage people. You know, if you never heard
Speaker 7: some records, you know, you said, man, well what was
Speaker 7: he doing before running? Do that?
Speaker 1: Man? Go listen to God in the building.
Speaker 7: Wanted two when I was rapping to convince myself not
Speaker 7: to stop rapping.
Speaker 1: You know, the passion was still there.
Speaker 7: The mixes are just better now and I understand how
Speaker 7: to make even better record. But yeah, just don't stop.
Speaker 7: Whatever your dream is, don't stop. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 7: you know, I want people to understand it. Man, I
Speaker 7: make music out of a place of truth and reality
Speaker 7: at that time. That truth and reality might be different
Speaker 7: ten years later, but I want to see where I
Speaker 7: was at that time.
Speaker 1: So I had that musical record.
Speaker 7: So you know, everybody, get a journal, write down how
Speaker 7: you feel now, push forward. If nothing else, I just
Speaker 7: want to know I help inspire somebody, whether that was
Speaker 7: through talking to an interview, whether it was through music,
Speaker 7: or whether it's to my show Love and Respect, How
Speaker 7: to Talk Show myself. We got twenty three others sols
Speaker 7: up on PBS. You go to PBS type and killing
Speaker 7: Mike was right there. You know, look for more of those.
Speaker 7: We coming out this year. We want an Emmy for that.
Speaker 7: We wanna we wanna a regional Emmy for that. So
Speaker 7: I want to Emmy last year. You know, and and
Speaker 7: and you can't be you can't say, man, wait around
Speaker 7: for everybody to clap and a plot. You got to
Speaker 7: move on to your next thing. My next thing was
Speaker 7: accomplishing the Grammys. We just like, I'm gonna sell a
Speaker 7: lot of brooms. And I was back in the studio
Speaker 7: the next night.
Speaker 4: So when it's a celebration in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: We got we gonna do the celebrator I've heard were
Speaker 1: putting something together. Y'all gotta be there.
Speaker 3: We got there.
Speaker 6: You encourage other artists to put their own money up
Speaker 6: to see their dreams through.
Speaker 7: No, that is the craziest ship you could do. And
Speaker 7: you're gonna have to do it at some point.
Speaker 6: So you're gonna have to do it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to at some point. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to take a risk on yourself.
Speaker 7: And that doesn't mean that's a thousands of dollars risks,
Speaker 7: But that means that you found a funky little venue
Speaker 7: to rent for a few hundred and you make it
Speaker 7: look like something, and you figure out a way to
Speaker 7: give people something free to drink or and you and
Speaker 7: you put a hundred to three hundred people in the room.
Speaker 1: That absolutely means that.
Speaker 7: It means that when you start making some money before
Speaker 7: you buy, before you buy the jewelry, you figure out
Speaker 7: how to expand whatever you need, you know, and it
Speaker 7: means you pay the people around you too once you
Speaker 7: start to grow.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're gonna have to spend.
Speaker 5: We'll be right back. Stay tuned with more of the
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Speaker 1: Hey, what's up is that boy? Killer? From the vill
Speaker 1: Killer Mike now tuned in the ball Alert Show and Revolt.
Speaker 4: Now, how many text messages did you have after you?
Speaker 1: Want to know your ship was going to pass them back?
Speaker 7: Mister Tyler Perry tall cousin parent who in jail a period.
Speaker 4: He probably in there bragging my cousin want to grab.
Speaker 2: It's amazing how things change when trophies come into play. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't like it, you know, don't
Speaker 2: like the Grammys.
Speaker 6: They say, you know, we need our own and all
Speaker 6: this stuff.
Speaker 2: But I feel like it's still important to to some musician,
Speaker 2: like even in myself, to have a Grammy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's important. I mean because there's other people who
Speaker 7: do what you do. It's like men, it's being a
Speaker 7: plot of the love by your peers. Getting nominated as
Speaker 7: an Amazing feat. I ain't gonna lie say I didn't
Speaker 7: want them to sweep. I wanted to sweep, and I'm
Speaker 7: thinking off the sweep.
Speaker 1: But with that said, I still.
Speaker 7: Ain't got my BT Awards, I still ain't got my
Speaker 7: Essence Awards, so I still want to pick.
Speaker 1: Up some awards like it's coming. It's coming recognized like
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 7: You know, the greatest tragedy of Van Gould's life was
Speaker 7: he died before the world realized who he was. You know,
Speaker 7: I don't want to die and everybody be talking good
Speaker 7: about me.
Speaker 1: I'm dead. I want you to come to the party
Speaker 1: where the Bruin's gonna be, you know, for real.
Speaker 7: So it has remaining ambitious and hungry and a dog
Speaker 7: about it as an artist, you know, absolutely now to
Speaker 7: win these things. It's a matter of work, you know,
Speaker 7: because because you know, just because the artists dope, and
Speaker 7: even just because your audience like it doesn't mean everyone's
Speaker 7: seeing it, you know, Like I get why, uh what
Speaker 7: the what they called him?
Speaker 1: I rock Z?
Speaker 7: Does the Z manials disea all my niggas thats Z's
Speaker 7: out there. Let me tell you something, man, I understand
Speaker 7: what it's like to turn off have fun ball. But boy,
Speaker 7: when your mama died, yes, oh man, when your mama
Speaker 7: died and you ain't got a song to fit that, man,
Speaker 7: be it bro got you something. Because my mama died.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even listen to that song that you made motherless.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even listen to it.
Speaker 7: It's I made my man Harold, who was amazing writing.
Speaker 1: Man. Harold say, you know you're not rapping. What do
Speaker 1: you mean? He said, you're a bluesman. You're talking about
Speaker 1: working class people's life. And yeah, so that's a responsibility.
Speaker 1: So that's a responsibility on the record.
Speaker 7: I tell homis man like, I put something on here
Speaker 7: for you now. You might not be ready for it now,
Speaker 7: but when you need it, it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: There for you.
Speaker 8: Listen.
Speaker 2: I was listening to the album on the way here too.
Speaker 2: When Motherless came on. I had to I just recently
Speaker 2: lost my mom, but I could not listen to it
Speaker 2: because I didn't want to room a makeup. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I can't listen to this right now. But you are
Speaker 2: preaching on there and I appreciate it, Kendrick said. Critics
Speaker 2: who want to mention when hip hop was rapping, if
Speaker 2: you did.
Speaker 6: Killer Michael will be platinum. Do you feel like the Grammy's.
Speaker 1: Doing it right? Man?
Speaker 7: We helped prove the right, you know, like like and
Speaker 7: I say, you know, if I was a Kidred fan,
Speaker 7: I'm definitely gonna be like, man, let me see what
Speaker 7: shouted because he influenced. Like for me, man, when I hear,
Speaker 7: when I hear, when I hear one of the people
Speaker 7: that I look up to love and the door reference something.
Speaker 1: I used to write it down.
Speaker 7: I used to have to go to the library or
Speaker 7: go to the encyclopedia. Now you just put it on
Speaker 7: the phone. I want to hear that, you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. I want to hear that like I didn't.
Speaker 7: I didn't you know, I didn't when you when when
Speaker 7: I could tell who was really in the music. When
Speaker 7: when Kanye started working with Mike Dean and I seen
Speaker 7: the kids that pop up and said.
Speaker 1: Mike Dean didn't he used to rap? Didn't he used
Speaker 1: to rap?
Speaker 7: They said, used to lights up dooring that stop, they said.
Speaker 7: With Scarface, I said, oh that's.
Speaker 1: A he like me. That's a little music nerd. He
Speaker 1: reading credits. He want to know where to pun.
Speaker 7: And then it was like you look at Scarface's tiny
Speaker 7: desk that over everybody's going crazy about.
Speaker 1: Right there next to them, it's Mike. Mike.
Speaker 7: They've been partners and they made they you know, for
Speaker 7: thirty forty years. That's what's amazing, Like they're such a
Speaker 7: richer tapestry if you're just willing to dig deeper, if
Speaker 7: you're just willing to get curious, that's all I want
Speaker 7: people to do.
Speaker 1: Get curious about art.
Speaker 7: Don't just say well, this is the art that I'm
Speaker 7: being told is it for now? And we're part of
Speaker 7: this artistic mama. But what drives it?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 7: What has inspired the artists that I admire? Because I
Speaker 7: guarantee if you do that, you become a richer artist.
Speaker 1: Yourself.
Speaker 3: Question before we get up out of here, when Killer
Speaker 3: Mike's having a bad day, because we all have bad
Speaker 3: day yesterday, Actually, what what do you do?
Speaker 1: Who do you talk to? Somebody? Do you have Do
Speaker 1: you have a therapist? They talk to Lloyd I like wife.
Speaker 1: So when you're having a bad day like my wife.
Speaker 7: Maybe gonna start seeing it there. It's pretty cool. I
Speaker 7: give it Tona to Prano marijuana therapy, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean? I watched Toni and Prano because I can't
Speaker 7: identify the character you're trying to keep it all together,
Speaker 7: you know, marijuana. I think it helps with my anxieties.
Speaker 7: And ultimately, my grandmother told me, which is essentially just
Speaker 7: a former of of self meditation sources.
Speaker 1: You meditate to quiet my mind. You know, he's amens
Speaker 1: to just be.
Speaker 7: Quiet and I talk to God, because God's in you.
Speaker 7: God's not separate from you. God's all around you and
Speaker 7: covered you and in you. And sometimes you just have
Speaker 7: to get quiet and just and just talk to to
Speaker 7: the God that hits in you. I encourage you as
Speaker 7: an old guy back in the seventies and eighties called
Speaker 7: Reverend Ike. My grandmother loved her. My grandmother just my
Speaker 7: grandmother adored them, and my grandfather thought it was because
Speaker 7: the nigga dressed fans that had just wave back. My
Speaker 7: granddad had a waver after your light skined or Reverendight
Speaker 7: with dog skined at all. After I got older, you know,
Speaker 7: because my grandmother she would drag us along in church,
Speaker 7: but she was she was very quiet about her life
Speaker 7: of Reverend Ike. But I'll start watching this stuff on
Speaker 7: YouTube and the same stuff that the people who go
Speaker 7: on the talk shows, they charge you a bunch of
Speaker 7: money for their books. That wife ol stuff we buying
Speaker 7: from the white folk God unless they sold.
Speaker 1: Reverend Night We're giving you for free. You just go
Speaker 1: on YouTube when he talks about the reality of God,
Speaker 1: is that God is in you and prayer is. It's not.
Speaker 7: Prayer is an active thing. You pray, you work, you move,
Speaker 7: you strive. And he talked about that, and he talks
Speaker 7: about how innately you have to manifest things.
Speaker 1: Out of your mind. So I talk to God all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 7: I get prayers answer on more days not I could
Speaker 7: have a bad day and the next day, Man, here
Speaker 7: the Lord is, and it was meant for me to
Speaker 7: suffer that bad day that I may appreciate the good day.
Speaker 7: You know, if you read the story of Job in
Speaker 7: the Bible, you know Joe was a man who spotless,
Speaker 7: who was seamless, you know, in terms that he was
Speaker 7: tight for God. And the devil told God, you know,
Speaker 7: he only liked that because you ain't never let me
Speaker 7: put my hands on them. You ain't never let me
Speaker 7: lay him down. And I promise you, if I get
Speaker 7: a chance put my hands on him, he'll deny you,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean.
Speaker 7: And Joe stayed faithful through all the suffering, through loss
Speaker 7: of his family, has lost his fortune, he says, and
Speaker 7: God restore him, you know, and God gave him peace.
Speaker 7: So for me, I just figured, you know, bad days
Speaker 7: are gonna come, and I should appreciate them like I
Speaker 7: appreciate the good days because God is always with me. Amen.
Speaker 6: Now you had you run all the Grammys and you're
Speaker 6: on a run right now. What's next for killing Mike?
Speaker 7: I guess they'll send me to the next interview. Hopefully
Speaker 7: we get lunch. But I'm back in the studio working,
Speaker 7: Okayed two, Michael three.
Speaker 6: Michael two and Michael three. This needs to be a movie,
Speaker 6: like are you gonna turn this into a movie? That
Speaker 6: could be the Oscar? Because you're on your way to Egy.
Speaker 1: I want to do I want to do a movie
Speaker 1: one day.
Speaker 7: It will happen one day, but you know what I
Speaker 7: really want to do in the immediate I want to
Speaker 7: do a play.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think this this is I think this built
Speaker 1: for Broadway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know the right Tony Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: I would love that. But we appreciate you for soccer
Speaker 2: dig so much. He's so proud of the city's proud
Speaker 2: of you. And I just love listening to you because
Speaker 2: you teach. Every time you say everything you are preaching, well.
Speaker 7: I'm always learning too, and I just want to I
Speaker 7: just want to say, man, I just man. I want
Speaker 7: to thank Reverend Senator, Reverend Rafael or not. He called
Speaker 7: and prayed with me out of know what the other morning,
Speaker 7: and I just want to just give you some of
Speaker 7: that positive prayper because I know how hard it is
Speaker 7: to lose a mother, and just know that you will
Speaker 7: be in my thoughts and prayers. And although physically we
Speaker 7: go the manifestation her energy never will because you are
Speaker 7: absolutely glowing. You're a radiant class regal acting A woman's
Speaker 7: a pleasure to being in your presence today, and he
Speaker 7: was her legacy.
Speaker 6: So thank you, we appreciate it. Before we get out
Speaker 6: of here, we gotta do a pep talk real quick
Speaker 6: with Killer Mike. Here's a pep talk.
Speaker 1: Hey, what's up? It's killing Mike, Killer Kill from the field. Ak.
Speaker 7: I missed a sweepier room like your grandmama's new broom man.
Speaker 7: Three time Grammy winning here, and I'm just here to say,
Speaker 7: even when the days was dark, I kept pushing. And
Speaker 7: it's really, really, really a very very very short statement.
Speaker 7: I can, I must, I will, I can do this,
Speaker 7: I must do this, I will do this whatever your
Speaker 7: this is. I can do this, I must do this,
Speaker 7: and I will do this. I can, I must, I
Speaker 7: will love and respect.
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