1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks insiders. Gino looks golaying up 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: over the top. 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: Count of man out there. It is Locker. 4 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,040 Speaker 3: He's got a touchdown. 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 4: Seyhawks getting you ready for Seahawks football every Sunday. 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 5: Hurtz drops back, Hastime loads up, throws aj Brown the 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 5: defense does. 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 3: He keep it speed him? 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: He does stayoffs. 10 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 4: Ball presented by Delta, the official airline of the Seahawks. 11 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Now here's your host, Jen Mueller. 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 5: We knew the Seahawks were going to face a test 13 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 5: in Detroit. They certainly did. But John Boyle, that offense 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 5: comes through with flying colors. I know that you wanted 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 5: that one. I know that it would make a big 16 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 5: difference in how you feel going into this week's game. 17 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: I can't be upset by what I saw from the 18 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: Seahawks and Detroit. 19 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, it wasn't their best game. They 20 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: were missing a lot of guys on defense, and I look, 21 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: pardon me, is like, that's a good sign that expectations 22 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: are high, that fans are upset about losing on the 23 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: road to a really good team missing half your starting defense. 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 3: But I look at it as the offense was great. 25 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: I am willing to give the defense a pass until 26 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: we see it back to something close to full strength 27 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: at some point this season. I do want to see 28 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: that defense close to full strength going against a really 29 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: good offense like Detroits or whoever it may be. But 30 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna make too many judgments on a game 31 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: where the situation is pretty weird for that defense. 32 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 5: Well, and you have some franchise setting numbers, I will 33 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 5: be honest by the way that the hustle boards are, 34 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 5: so in case you're not familiar with that, during the game, 35 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 5: the hustle boards would be you know where you're looking 36 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 5: at total yards, rushing yards, passing yards, that sort of 37 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 5: a thing. Every stadium does it differently. I couldn't find 38 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 5: it in Detroit half the time. So when I look 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 5: at the final numbers and I'm looking at five hundred 40 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 5: and ten yards of offense sixteen excuse me, I shorted 41 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 5: them six yards. 42 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: That was like shocking to me. 43 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and thirty eight first sents. That's the most enfranchised 44 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: history in a game, so, and I think the most 45 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: in the league in like a decade. 46 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: So they did. They did a lot of really good things. 47 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: We saw Geno Smith, you know, pass for career high 48 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 3: end yardage and franchise records of completions. We saw Kenth 49 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: Walker really get going in the second half and get 50 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: the run game going. So yeah, I mean I come 51 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 3: out of that game being like this team can really 52 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: move the ball on just about anybody and as versatile 53 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: on offense. And again, let's look, coaches and players can't 54 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: use injuries as an excuse. They can't say, oh, we're 55 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 3: missing X, Y and Z. That hurt us because a 56 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 3: it makes the guys who are playing feel bad of like, oh, 57 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: they don't trust us, and be then what do you 58 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: say if those guys are out again this week? It 59 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: makes it sound like we don't trust anybody to get 60 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: the job done. But an objective observer can look at 61 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: this game and say, you're missing five of your best 62 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: players up front, and then you lose Julian Love in 63 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: the back end. And by the way, their two biggest 64 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 3: explosive players in the game happened after Julian Love left. 65 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: I'm not saying for sure he stops that, but we 66 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 3: just don't know. 67 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 5: We know that he is a high level communicator back there, 68 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 5: and we know that he is not only like a 69 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 5: safety but position but he is a safety valve just 70 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 5: in the way that he plays. You're right, you don't 71 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 5: know if those plays would have happened, or if they 72 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 5: would have been shorter, if you would have you know, 73 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 5: been able to hold him to a field goal. There's 74 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 5: a lot of if as Buds would I should have 75 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 5: cut as that sort of thing. But going back to 76 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 5: the offense, here's what I want to point out. The 77 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 5: Seahawks have totaled more than three hundred yards of offense 78 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 5: in each of their four games this year. They are 79 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 5: one of six teams in the NFL to do that. 80 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 5: When you start to look at the numbers, they are 81 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 5: averaging thirty nine. 82 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: Passes a game. 83 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 5: Now, John, that is amazing to me because we have 84 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 5: seen some games in recent years where they have only 85 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 5: had I don't know, forty five offensive plays in a game. 86 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 5: So you are getting a significant just number of plays 87 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 5: in the game. The thirty nine passes a game is 88 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 5: surprising to me because it does not feel like this 89 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 5: is a one dimensional team. You still have ken Walker 90 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 5: contributing and you are still calling run plays. It is 91 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 5: one of the reasons why I asked Mike McDonald just 92 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 5: about how how he sees this offense being called right now. 93 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's no we're not shooting for a number of 94 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 6: passes or whatever going into each game. I think it's 95 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 6: just what it takes to be successful, trying to put 96 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 6: our guys in best positions. I think Gino's operating the 97 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 6: offense at a really high level where we're getting in 98 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 6: and out of certain plays that that'll dictate some runner 99 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 6: pass in certain situations. But I think the guys are confident. 100 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of great execution out there. 101 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 6: So seeing the old line start to come together, so 102 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 6: it's we're moving in the right direction and we'll see. 103 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 6: You know, I'm not really worried about the pass play 104 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 6: numbers right now, but yeah, you're right. Does It just 105 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 6: doesn't feel that many The way this game played out, 106 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 6: you know, turned into a dropback fest, which it needed 107 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 6: to be, you know, for or have a chance to 108 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 6: win the game. So some you know, some games kind 109 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 6: of dictate those terms. 110 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: A couple of things that stood out to me. One, 111 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: I like that both Gino Smith because he's you know, 112 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: making justice of the line, but especially Ryan Grab your 113 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 3: play caller. I don't feel like either of them are 114 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: going to be like they're going to say what's the 115 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: defense doing and here's how we attack it, and not Okay, 116 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: we need to establish a run, so we're going to 117 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: be stubborn and run it. That defense, they saw some 118 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: opportunities in the passing game, and obviously it showed up 119 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: in the numbers, so they went after it. I also like, 120 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 3: I think there's this traditional notion of you run to 121 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 3: set up the pass, you run, run, run, and we've 122 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: seen them do the opposite of like, Okay, we're going 123 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 3: to run like crazy or throw like crazy if that's 124 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,799 Speaker 3: what you're giving us, and then as you adjust, boom. 125 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker has this big second half. So I think, 126 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: you know, both can help each other, complement each other 127 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: and doesn't necessarily have to be in the traditional order 128 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 3: of we're going to run early. 129 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 5: And it is also worth noting that the Seahawks have 130 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 5: gone one hundred or more yards rushing in three of 131 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 5: their four games played. The outlier was that game in 132 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 5: New England. 133 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: Which was all just out of whack. Yeah, in general, 134 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: so there's that. I went up to Ken Walker this 135 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: week and I apologized. 136 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 5: I first of all, felt terrible about the interview that 137 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 5: I did postgame not because he wasn't gracious, but I 138 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 5: really I had a few more things to get to 139 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 5: on my list. I totally forgot, including the front flip, 140 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 5: the backflip, staying up and getting the first down play. 141 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 5: You and I were talking about that and get on 142 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 5: the bus. 143 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: And I'm like, gosh darn it. Like it was on one. 144 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: Page anyway, it doesn't say gosh darn. 145 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 5: I did say gosh darning. So I walk up to 146 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 5: Ken in the locker room this week and I'm like, 147 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 5: I am so sorry I didn't ask you about that play. 148 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 5: And he looked at me and goes, oh, oh, yeah, 149 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 5: I totally forgot about that way, And I'm like, you, 150 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 5: there's no way. So if I would have asked you 151 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 5: about this after the game, he goes, well, no, I 152 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 5: would have. If you would have asked me about it, 153 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 5: sure I would have talked about it. I was like, okay, 154 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,559 Speaker 5: so in the moment, did you know that you've front 155 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 5: flipped backflipped and that you weren't He goes, of course, 156 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 5: why do you think I kept moving? I knew that 157 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 5: I could get the first down. And I was like, okay, 158 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, and maybe I'm glad that we didn't have 159 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 5: this conversation on the record, but anyway, yes. 160 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty impressive. I had a similar conversation. 161 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 3: I was like, we could you tell what was happening 162 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 3: as I was going on or were you just kind 163 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: of throwing your body And he's like, no, I knew, 164 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 3: and I knew I wasn't down, so I got up. 165 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: He did say. 166 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: He's like he was pleasantly surprised that they didn't blow 167 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 3: it down, just because it looked like the kind of 168 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: play where, oh, he must be down. So he was 169 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: glad that they gave him a chance to make what 170 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 3: was one of the stranger plays I've ever seen. 171 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: In a football game. 172 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 5: And I really wish that it happened on the Seahawks 173 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 5: sidelines because it was far sidelines to keep going, wait a. 174 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: Minute, what and you're looking at the replay, but well 175 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: in the. 176 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: Can you imagine the reaction if you had that rightline? It 177 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: would have been fun. 178 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: It is. 179 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 5: He is incredibly strong, and I'm really glad that he 180 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 5: is back on the field. There week one flipped the 181 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 5: dude trying to tackle him. I know, yeah, I know, 182 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 5: I can't tell wild movies here. Maybe he's just trying 183 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 5: for his own personal best highlight reel. 184 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: Maybe probably. 185 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 5: Meanwhile, things on the defensive side of things, well, look, 186 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 5: I don't even know what to make of it, because, 187 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 5: as you pointed out, you finished the game down six 188 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 5: starters on defense. So do you like forty two points 189 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 5: given up? No, you don't, but you still had some 190 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 5: pretty big plays overall, though, Mike McDonald, he is the 191 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 5: one that is going to step up and take responsibility 192 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 5: for this. 193 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 6: Look, whatever shows up on tape is my responsibility point. 194 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 6: I mean, at the end of the day, I'm responsible 195 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 6: for what goes on out there. And uh, I got 196 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 6: our guys are fighting their tails off to go do it. 197 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 6: No player is ever going to show up and want 198 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 6: to do it the wrong way. Everybody wants to win, 199 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 6: everybody wants to be productive, everybody wants to have success. 200 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 6: The secret sauce is when you can get it coming 201 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 6: to get when you can get it playned together and 202 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 6: they're playing for one another and they're excited for everybody 203 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 6: else's success. I think, you know, that's what we're building, 204 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 6: and that's what we're trying to create, and I think 205 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 6: I have to do my part to make that happen. 206 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: That was in response to a question about him, You know, 207 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: talk about mistakes, but not naming the individual players. You 208 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: can talk about, oh, a tackle was missed or a 209 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: blown assignment, but he doesn't say so and so did this. 210 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: And that's it's interesting because that was something Pete Carroll did. 211 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: Really well as well. 212 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: Like in all the years we covered him, you almost 213 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: never heard him, in a negative sense name a player 214 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: about a play. And I think that's a really good 215 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: take for a coach to be, like, Look, a player 216 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: might have messed up on that play individually, but it 217 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: was our job all week to get him ready to 218 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 3: make that play, either to get him the fundamentals right 219 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: to make the tackle back in training him, or to 220 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: scheme him to be in the right spot here. So ultimately, 221 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: when you're the head coach, as Mike McDonald's said, he 222 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: has to answer for it. So I like that, I mean, 223 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: just overall, bigger picture. I really like what we've been 224 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: hearing from Mike McDonald after the game on Monday when 225 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: he did his radio show. Now and we didn't know 226 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 3: this was his first loss as a head coach, you 227 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 3: just never know how he's going to take it, and 228 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: I think you know he's he's mixed in accountability with 229 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: finding kind of the bright spot in it and not overreacting. 230 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: So I just I really like how he's handled his 231 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 3: first loss as a head coach. 232 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: Do you think the culture has changed or. 233 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 5: It's just the coaching staff has changed, because I think 234 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 5: you and I have talked about this before, but now 235 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 5: that you're four games in, we have a better picture 236 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 5: of what this actually looks like. During the season, and 237 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 5: people keep talking to me about They're like, oh, the 238 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 5: culture's changed, the culture has changed. 239 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the cultures changed. Yeah. 240 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: He puts his own spin on things, and he coaches 241 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: the team at differently and players might respond to things differently, 242 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: but like bigger picture culture, there's still a lot of overlap. 243 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 3: And even I mean the day they hired him, he 244 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: talked about that of like he knew he was stepping 245 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 3: into a really good situation with what Pete and John 246 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: had built. You know what, really going back to Paul 247 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 3: Allen buying the team, like what the culture in this 248 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: building has been for decades has been really strong, and 249 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: he understood, like I don't need to come in and 250 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: blow it all up. I'm going to come be myself 251 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: and coach football the way I know how to coach football, 252 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: but also embrace what's been here already. 253 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 5: And this week he is coaching the defense towards getting 254 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 5: those takeaways, something that we have not seen since week one. Now, 255 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 5: I will tell you that the numbers for the Giants 256 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 5: could make this a little bit difficult, but here is 257 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 5: how Mike McDonald wants to see them get better. 258 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 6: How can we get incrementally better in all the processes coaches, 259 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 6: How we organize things, how we walk through players, how 260 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 6: we take meetings, how we communicate meetings. Just how can 261 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 6: we take intercremeral steps throughout the week, you know, to 262 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 6: put ourselves in a position mentally so we can go 263 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 6: out and play our best football and then endgame. How 264 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 6: we're commuting as coaches, communicating as coaches, how we how 265 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 6: we adjust all those things, I mean, all those things 266 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 6: around the table. We've talked about them. Unfortunately, it's just 267 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 6: a it is creating an opportunity for us to, you know, 268 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 6: to really face those things head on. And that's what 269 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 6: we're gonna do. 270 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and again this goes back to how, you know, 271 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: how is he handling this first loss? How will the 272 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: team handle it? And you know, It's still early in 273 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: the week when we heard from Mike the first time, 274 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: so he maybe doesn't have a great feel for his 275 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: players and how they're doing it yet. But I think 276 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 3: to his point, like, if we stay consistent in our 277 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: messaging and how we do things, you know, no one's 278 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: pit panicking about what happened on Monday. 279 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: They wanted to win that game. 280 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: Of course, but it didn't go their way, and they're 281 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: looking to just sort of stay the course, do what 282 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: got them their first three wins and and just looked 283 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 3: to improve. 284 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, but like I mentioned, some of those Giants numbers 285 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 5: is going to make it tough for the defense to 286 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 5: do the things and to have the game changing plays 287 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 5: that they want to have. We know the quarterback Daniel Jones. 288 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 5: We know that he is working behind a retooled offensive 289 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 5: line the Giants bring in three veterans. As a result, 290 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 5: he has been pressured a career low thirty four percent 291 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 5: of the time. Prior to this, in four of his 292 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 5: first five seasons, it was forty percent or higher. So 293 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 5: as a result, he is staying up right, but on 294 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 5: most of his yards are coming through these short, quick passes. 295 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 5: He is not completing things deep downfield. So where are 296 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 5: you gonna get the takeaways from this week? 297 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they, as Mike McDonald told us, like, 298 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 3: that's you know, you can't consistently win football games losing 299 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: the turnover battle, and they want to start getting those. 300 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 3: They have three the first game and nonsense. So you know, 301 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 3: they got to figure out ways. I mean, the pass 302 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: rush for the Seahawks, especially when they were healthy, has 303 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: been really good. They have one of the highest pressure 304 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: rates in the league. So I would have a hunch 305 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: they feel like even against a good line, they'll take 306 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: their chances that they can get after the quarterback some 307 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: and hopefully forced Daniel Jones into some bad decisions. But also, 308 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: you know, there's got to be opportunities where you got 309 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 3: to look for a chance to get the ball out. 310 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: We've seen there's been some close moments where you watch 311 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: play like ooh man, some whether it's Spoon or whoever 312 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: coming in and just missing the punk. So they're going 313 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 3: to keep trying to find their ways to get it out. 314 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. 315 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 5: Well, so here's kind of part of it is Daniel 316 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 5: Jones has been forced to throw the ball because they 317 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 5: don't have much of a run game. Yeah, and the 318 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 5: just over a yard averaged against Dallas a week ago, 319 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 5: did not help their overall average, which is one of 320 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 5: the lowest in the league. I think they're at three 321 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 5: point four yards a carry, So if the ground game 322 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 5: isn't going, he's going to have to go through the air. 323 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 7: Now. 324 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 5: I don't know if you watch the end of that 325 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 5: Dallas game, but I thought the play calling was baffling. 326 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 5: And I never say this about coaches because I don't 327 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 5: know everything in the game plan, but you could tell 328 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 5: when he was trying to get the ball down field that. 329 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: Wasn't his style right. 330 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 5: In fact, Daniel Jones has only completed two of thirteen 331 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 5: attempted passes where it has gone more than twenty yards 332 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 5: in the air. Now, think about how great Gino throws 333 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 5: that deep ball. 334 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: That's not going to be Daniel Jones strength. However, he 335 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: is tied for. 336 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson with the most completions thirty six of over 337 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 5: ten yards. So when you start go went into that short, 338 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 5: quick game, now you are finding. 339 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: Success, although they could be without their top process. 340 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: I was gonna say it'll be a big, big question, Marcus, 341 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: whether they have the leagu neighbors who's just been outstanding 342 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: the Zeroki, but unfortunately suffered a concussion last week, so 343 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: got to see if he's back, because yeah, he's been 344 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: a huge part of their passing game so far. 345 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 5: You know what, if we're gonna talk about wide receivers, 346 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 5: I think it is time to take a quick break 347 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 5: and to bring in our Fantasy insider, Scott Ingel. 348 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 7: Thanks Jenning John, and welcome to Week five of fantasy football. 349 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 7: With four teams on a bye, we have to give 350 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 7: you those streamers, and we start with Jackson Smith and 351 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 7: Jigba of the Seahawks on the field for eighty four 352 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 7: percent of the snaps last week. Continued opportunity will lead 353 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 7: to continued production. Also, Courtland Sutton of the Denver Broncos 354 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 7: catching his first touchdown pass of the season last week 355 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 7: against tough New York Jets secondary like them against Las 356 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 7: Vegas this week. And running back Kareem Hunt emerging as 357 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 7: the number one running back for the powerful Kansas City 358 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 7: Chiefs offense, which should start to rebound and beat potent 359 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 7: again under Patrick Mahomes. Go to Seahawks dot com, go 360 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 7: to the Fantasy Insider page under the news temp and 361 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 7: find out why you should still have confidence in Mahomes 362 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 7: as a fantasy player. Also at running back Chuba Hubbard 363 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 7: of the Carolina Panthers last two weeks one hundred plus 364 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 7: rushing yards in each game and two TV's from scrimmage. 365 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 7: It's tight end. We're all scrambling for help. Take a 366 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 7: shot on Tyler Conklin of the New York Jets against 367 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 7: former team, the Minnesota Vikings, who ranked twenty eighth in 368 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 7: fantasy points per game allowed to tight ends. For more 369 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 7: of my work, check me out at rohdebowler dot com 370 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 7: and also on the Athletic Back to you Jen and 371 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 7: John for Week five Seahawks and Giants. 372 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 5: Thank you Scott Okay Seahawks wide receivers. Seahawks offensive scheme. 373 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 5: Does it get better than Jason and Jack's Zach Sharbonay 374 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 5: combined it for a trick play. 375 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: In week four? 376 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: That was so fun. 377 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: That was so fun in Week four. 378 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, and they've had that in their back pocket, yeah 379 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 5: for weeks. 380 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 7: Yeah. 381 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: I think somebody like, oh, they're copying the Lions, because 382 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 3: the Lion's just somewhat Somebody's like, no, they've been working 383 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: on that longer than that. 384 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: It's every team. 385 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: Every team has different variations of those plays, but it 386 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: just looks so like it wasn't like some trick plays 387 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 3: they developed slowly and you're like, oh, what's going to happen? 388 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: But that was just like they made a look routine. 389 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: It was pretty impressive. 390 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 5: And also when that play gets called, you get one 391 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 5: shot to execute that. 392 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: If you don't execute it, that's it. 393 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 5: Like you can't run that play again because now you've 394 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 5: already shown it. I say that maybe they could, I 395 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 5: don't know, but generally with a play like that, you 396 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 5: don't show it again. So if that is not a 397 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 5: successful play, well, not only did you just kind of 398 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 5: waste down on that one, but you wasted the chance 399 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 5: for that. 400 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to capitalize on those. So unfortunately they 401 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: did not score on the drive, but that did. 402 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: Help flip the field and you know, late in a half, 403 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 3: so it's still probably helped them avoid you know, giving 404 00:16:58,520 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: the ball back too early and anything like that. 405 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: With what third and sixteen, I don't remember what. 406 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 3: It was a low percentage play, but they sure made 407 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: it look easy. 408 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: They figured it out. 409 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 5: Is Jackson Smith and jigbaw or DK Metcalf the better 410 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 5: wide receiver right now? 411 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: I mean, they're both really good I'm going to give 412 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 3: the nod to DK. I mean the guys he they're both. 413 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: I don't want to sound like I'm saying one guy's 414 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: not good, but like DK Metcalf is on that level 415 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: of like he's just a huge problem for every NFL defense. 416 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: You see teams scheming specifically to stop him. And he's 417 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 3: still got three straight one hundred yard games, which, by 418 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: the way, no one's done that in franchise history. Okay, 419 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 3: so weird. 420 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 2: I know, how is this possible? 421 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 3: He retired is the all time leading receiver in NFL 422 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 3: history when he left the game, and I think it 423 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 3: was nineteen ninety I'm doing But anyway, my point is 424 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 3: Steve Largent, all time great, never had three straight hundred 425 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: yard games. DK Metcalf just did it last three weeks. 426 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: Now Here's what I think I might end up to 427 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 2: be wrong on. 428 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 5: And also I did intentionally such up to pick one 429 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 5: over the other, just to see what would happen. I 430 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 5: would say Jayson, and I know that he has always 431 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 5: been kind of that shifty slot guy, but what I 432 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 5: saw on Monday night, it just feels like he is. 433 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 5: I don't know if he's even more competitive there or 434 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 5: if he's even smoother, but there's something different to his 435 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 5: game where Look, I'm not saying Tyler Lockett's not a factor, 436 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 5: but I really do like the youngster working inside and 437 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 5: keeping Tyler on the outside. Yeah, I mean, you just 438 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 5: you're gonna have to save those places to Tyler. 439 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: And he's also what Jason is doing on third down. 440 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 3: He's just like so many third downs, he's taking that 441 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 3: where he maybe doesn't have as many big plays over 442 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: the course of a game, but he's a guy that 443 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: Joe Smith has figured out he can really make things 444 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: happen on these third down conversions. 445 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: Yes, but here's where I might be wrong. 446 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 5: When people were asking me who's going to be like 447 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 5: the top offensive player, and they want fantasy advice, which, 448 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 5: by the way, I do not give Scott Engele gives. 449 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 5: That's I defer to Scott. I said, look, I don't 450 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 5: I don't know that I would pick any wide receiver 451 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 5: because there's so many options in so many tools. I 452 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 5: think that the yards are just gonna get spread around 453 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 5: too much. I think I might be wrong on that. 454 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 5: Now I know that we're only four games in. I 455 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 5: think I might be wrong based on what DK is doing. 456 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we'll see over the course of the 457 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: season how plays out. But yeah, well he seems to 458 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 3: be taking his game to another level where and you know, 459 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: maybe some of this is the play caller too, of 460 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 3: Ryan Grubb and Gino Smith, just looking like, hey, this 461 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: guy's too good not to feed the ball to X 462 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: number of times a game. But again, like if teams 463 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 3: are trying to take that away, we've seen games where 464 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 3: there's a lot of attention on him and that's when 465 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: the other guys might feast, which you know, again from 466 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 3: the fantasy standpoint, might be tricky because yeah, you know, 467 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: some teams have like a clear number one and that's 468 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: all they go to and the guy's gonna get fifteen 469 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: targets no matter what. Whereas there's gonna be games the 470 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: decayed Metcalf might feel more quiet, but man, he's been 471 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 3: he's been phenomenal so far. 472 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 5: He can be quiet and all it takes is one 473 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 5: deep shot for seventy yards and suddenly he's right back 474 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 5: up there at the top of the stat sheet. So 475 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 5: I'm not worried about it. I just find it really curious. 476 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 5: So I don't know, we'll continue to watch those numbers. 477 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 5: We're going to give you a couple of numbers and 478 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 5: things that we need to see right after this word 479 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 5: from our presenting sponsor. 480 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 4: Statistically, the world is losing color. Just consider all white kitchens, 481 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 4: beige baby nurseries, a sea of gray cars. But in 482 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 4: the hundreds of destinations Delta flies to, you can rediscover 483 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 4: color in the bright blue waters of Hawaii, the emerald 484 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 4: green hills of Scotland, the very pink cherry blossoms of Tokyo, 485 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 4: and so much more. 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I want them to get all the 496 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: way back to even I'm to win a turner about. 497 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: By three by three. Yeah, like I said, I'm getting greedy. 498 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: But okay, yeah, you know, maybe maybe that's. 499 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: We'll see, well, we'll see what happens. 500 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: Okay, but you know, especially if you get ahead and yep, 501 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: put them in a bad spot. 502 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: I think you can do that. 503 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 3: The other one, when you look, the Giants have struggled 504 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 3: in a lot of areas. They're one and three, but 505 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 3: their defensive front is pretty nasty. They got some guys 506 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 3: that can really get after it. Dexter Lawrence one of 507 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 3: the best interior linemen in the NFL. So offensive line 508 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: is coming off a strong performance, especially when you consider 509 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 3: fifty six drop backs, like that's tough to block. I 510 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 3: want to see the offensive line, you know, continue to 511 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 3: progress and keep Geno Smith clean and minimize the hits 512 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 3: that he takes. 513 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 5: You know what, that defense is really good at doing 514 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 5: keeping points off the board. In fact, they are among 515 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 5: the best at red zone defense, allowing opponents to score 516 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 5: just about forty percent of the time that they are 517 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 5: inside the twenty. So for the Seahawks, I want to 518 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 5: see points on the board. I'm not even going to 519 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 5: say it's suttling if you kick a field goal, but 520 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 5: you got to get points on the board. Maximize those opportunities. 521 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 5: The other part for the Seahawks defense. This might be 522 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 5: greedy on my part. I want to see a season 523 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 5: low in rushing yards allowed, which is a little tricky 524 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 5: because it was only sixty five against Miami. But make 525 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 5: this team one dimensional and then that feeds into your 526 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 5: turnover point and I think that that all comes out 527 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 5: pretty well. Well, great, we've schemed this up perfectly. Yeah, 528 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 5: I think if you listen to. 529 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: Us, Mike's going to put on this podcast and. 530 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, we just saved the coaches so much time, 531 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 5: score in the red zone and get the ball. 532 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, this seems brilliant. 533 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 5: I'm sure that you agree, and I'm sure that you 534 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 5: will be back next week for a brand new edition 535 00:22:45,040 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 5: of the Seahawks Insiders podcast.