1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Happy Friday people. Reminder programming note for those of you 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: that are the ft fam hardcore fans pointing this out 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: already for everyone else. Thursday Friday next week, no live shows. 4 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: We'll put some content out, like if you check our 5 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: podcast page, it'll still be bumping with content, but we 6 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: won't have a live show. And I just want to 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: remind everyone that next Thursday is Thanksgiving, so please prepare accordingly. 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: The day after that is off for many others, call 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: it Black Friday. If you want to do shopping or 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: do whatever you got to do, do it. God Father, 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Today's a special day because AJ Prazinski's not on, and 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: we are going to start the show with a topic 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: that is near and dear to his heart. We are 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: going to talk about the Chicago Cubs without Aj. That 15 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: means no little jokes from about how much he loves 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: Slash hates the Cubbies. So this will be like a 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: very neutral conversation. 18 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: It might it might kick off something even better. You 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: never know, especially with the vaunted Cobies there in Chicago. 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: But yes, I feel it's gonna be. It's gonna be 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: a non partial time for us here. So we're gonna 22 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 2: we're gonna put our best foot forward and talk about 23 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: some off season stuff about them, and hopefully people understand 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: where we're coming from without aj. 25 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so each of you raise your right hand and 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: tell me, I solemnly swear that I'm just going to 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: comment on the Cubs as if any neutral fan of 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: the game would comment on the Cubs, and You're not 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: gonna have to recite this. I'm just gonna need a 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: yes or no, or an I do or and I 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 1: don't that you don't care, respectfully if the Cubs finish 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: in first or last next year. This is a national show. 33 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: Can I get an I do or a yes from Krats? 34 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: Yes? 35 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Todd, Yes, I do same here. Yes, let's charge 36 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: let's charge out, all right, So what do we have here, 37 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: Let's size up the Cubs off season. Let's give him 38 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: some love right now and see what they need to do. 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: Kratz is making a face because he probably saw the 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: tweet that's going to kick off the conversation. George Offfman, 41 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: who does some radio work and a bunch of other 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: things out in Chicago, puts this tweet out there, told 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: that the Cubs were stunned in Managa accepted the qualifying 44 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: offer they expected to get. A draft pick hampers their 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: off season spending plans. We can show the next one too. 46 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: The Cubs currently have around one hundred and ninety million 47 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: in payroll. The tax threshold which many serve I'm going 48 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: to add this part. Many use this as their de 49 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: facto salary cap is two forty four mil. Affman says 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: the Cubs don't want to exceed it. They think that's 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: enough for a top free agent pitcher, a hitter, bullpen, 52 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: help arbitration cases, and perhaps paying Pete ker Armstrong on 53 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: an extension. You'll need money at the trade deadline. Creative 54 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: trade Sandy el Contra question Mark crats your. 55 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: Thoughts, what's the big deal? 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 4: They got a starter that had a below a four ERA, 57 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 4: he came back from an injury, didn't wasn't as good, 58 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 4: Like they have a one year starter who wasn't All 59 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 4: Star two years ago. Like, I don't see what the 60 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: big deal is, And don't get me started on the 61 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 4: payroll stuff like the salary cap at two hundred and 62 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: forty four million. For the Cubs to be hitting that, 63 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: if you're mad as a if you're mad as a 64 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: front office that you offered somebody twenty two million dollars 65 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 4: and they accepted it. You need to only be mad 66 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 4: at one person. And there's stun that he accepted it. 67 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: There's stun that he accepted twenty two million dollars when 68 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: next year you could just go back for another one 69 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: year deal after that and not make not make near 70 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 4: twenty two million. I just I have a hard time 71 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: believing that this organization truly wants to win if these 72 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 4: comments are true. 73 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with you, yeah, wholeheartedly. It's why 74 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: it's a qualifying offer. It's decided by a player, and 75 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're gonna be mad at that player, 76 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: especially a pretty good left handed pitcher that I think 77 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 2: most teams would want on their squad. I would go 78 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: on the opposite side and say, the other teams are 79 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 2: a little upset if you want the truth, you know, 80 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: he did have a little injury. But at the same token, 81 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: this guy is a pretty good lefty. When he's on 82 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: and that change up and everything's working, he's a dominant 83 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: pitcher and he's pretty good. He's not going to overpower you, 84 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: as we already know. But yeah, there, I mean, why 85 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: are you going to start a relationship off like that 86 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: or start the new year for baseball terms off, Man, 87 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: we're pretty upset that he took the offer. What's going 88 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: on here? Don't people want to win? That's where I 89 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: get confused. 90 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: And I'm actually pretty sure that with a qualifying offer, 91 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: you can't trade the player right off the jump. There's 92 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: a deadline that's built in there. I believe that it's 93 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: June where you can't trade the player until a certain date. 94 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,559 Speaker 1: I learned that recently, and maybe I saw bad info, 95 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure I'm right on that. Let me 96 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: add to the table here. First off, Crats, I'm going 97 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: to disagree with you. I think the Cubs do want 98 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: to compete and contend in all of that. Right, this 99 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: isn't a bottom of the barrel payroll. I think what 100 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: you mean is their revenue to their payroll is not 101 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: commeasure it. Right. It's probably a top five team in 102 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: terms of how much they pull in. They operate more 103 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: in the mid market range in terms of what they 104 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: bring in talent wise with their payroll. I mean, this 105 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: was a team that made the playoffs last year, took 106 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: the Brewers to the brink and fell short. Should they 107 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: be doing more. Should they be the big bad n 108 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: L Central spenders, no doubt, and they built up to 109 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: get to this point. They've done a but nice job 110 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: or a better job of building. Pitching a weak point 111 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: for THEO and Hoyer during that run, and I think 112 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: they've gotten better in that department. Kate Horton, I think 113 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: is a prime example. They used to just buy pitching. 114 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: If they don't want to buy pitching as much, you 115 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: got to develop it. I think they've done that better. 116 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: They will still spend on pitching. I'm not backing them, okay, 117 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: I want to be clear, like they definitely should be 118 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: operating more towards the high twos, if not three hundred, 119 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: and they could buy the whole and free agent crop 120 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: if they wanted to. But if they're playing in this 121 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: game right and they're going to spend probably is my 122 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: guest between thirty and fifty mil tops on free agents. 123 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking on what they're going to make in twenty 124 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: twenty six. Then we can refer to Patrick Mooney, who 125 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: writes for The Athletic and is on our Great North 126 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: Side Territory show. He said they've already been linked to 127 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: several pitchers who rejected qualifying offers notable names such as 128 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: from Barbaldez, Dyln't See, Michael King, Ranger Suarez, and Zach Gallen. 129 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with you. 130 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: I mean what I said was definitely more in line 131 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 4: with what you said. They should be the juggernaut of 132 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: the NL Central because those other teams have some spending issues. 133 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: The Cubs do not. And when I say they're choosing 134 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 4: to not, I should have elaborated and said they're choosing 135 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 4: to not be a behemoth in the NL Central. They're saying, well, 136 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: you know what, I'm about to run a race, one 137 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 4: hundred yard dash, and the other people I'm running against 138 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 4: aren't that fast, so I'm just not gonna try that hard. 139 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: But they keep getting passed up. They keep getting passed up, 140 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 4: And I think if you truly own the Cubs to 141 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 4: win year in and year out, I think it is 142 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 4: something that they need to go over the salary cap. 143 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: They need because they easily can because they're bringing in 144 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: tons of money. 145 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: It's the same thing we say all the time about 146 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: the Cubs. 147 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 4: But I think their spending should not be thwarted, it 148 00:07:54,880 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 4: should not be curbed. Just because Shoda added more depth 149 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 4: to your rotation. The organization needs six or seven solid pitchers, 150 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 4: and it's okay if they go after a Frameber, it's 151 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 4: okay if they give a longer term deal. 152 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: To a Zach Gallan. 153 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 4: I think it brings it brings extra excitement to the 154 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: NL Central when the big boys, the big boy in 155 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 4: the NL Central spends its money, and I think it 156 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 4: makes everybody else in NL Central spend a little bit 157 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: of money to keep up. Because right now, why would 158 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 4: the Brewers say, hey, you know what, we're going to 159 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 4: push in because the Cubs are really loading up. 160 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: No, they loaded up with Kyle Tucker for one year. 161 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 4: To me, I thought that was really the jumping off 162 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 4: point that the Cubs could have said, Hey, we brought 163 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: in Tucker, we're now extending him. And I was told, 164 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: and now I've been shown, Eh, you know what we're not. 165 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 4: We just wanted him for one year. 166 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to turn out to be rental and 167 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: Todd father pitching is going to be the focus for 168 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: this team. So here's my thing, going back to Imanaga, 169 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you're not asking him to be year one 170 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 1: coming up next year. He should be her three or 171 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: or four. Right, Presumably they should land one of the 172 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: names that I mentioned in terms of the A or 173 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: B tier of free agents starting pitching right, and then 174 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: Kate Horton looked brilliant last year, especially in the second 175 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: half as a rookie. He should slote in nicely in 176 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: that rotation. Justin Steele is going to come back at 177 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: some point this year. Matthew Boyd had a really nice 178 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: season for them. Like there are some notable names in there, 179 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: tye On as a back end guy, they actually have 180 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: some depth. They definitely need a guy that's a playoff 181 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: starter in my mind, so hopefully they set their sights 182 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: on that and then yeah, they're probably going to still 183 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: have to pick up bat Kyle Tucker didn't have his 184 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: best year, but he still had a banger year and 185 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: you're losing him. 186 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's he could be looking, you know from 187 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: reading all the articles and you know, talking with a couple, 188 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: he can be looking for a big pay day. I 189 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 2: know he's second half was, but this dude can hit, 190 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: he can play. But you know, back to your point 191 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: about pitching, I know a lot of teams that need pitching, 192 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: and listen, when you have depth, that's one thing that's 193 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: that's good Okay, depth is good. You can put guys 194 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: in here and there, but you need you need like 195 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: a freed You need uh, you know, one of those 196 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: top dogs that is gonna be there the whole time, 197 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: you know, like uh, you know Dylan Ceese or you know, 198 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: just a guy that's like, oh, we got to face 199 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: him again. It's not like, all right, we got this guy. Okay, Yeah, 200 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: you could put in whoever you want. If you got depth, 201 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: that's good, but you need one or two dogs and Scott, 202 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 2: they got to want to come to Chicago too, so 203 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to get spice everything up. So I'm 204 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: not saying it's a bad city to play in, but 205 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: you know, between a couple other cities, I don't know 206 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 2: what guys are gonna do again, so you put the offer. 207 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: At least you could do is put the offer out 208 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: there to some guys. But they also have to say 209 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: yes and come over. So it's it's a tricky, tricky 210 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: side of the business that you know, most don't understand. 211 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: We we have a resident Cubs fan in the ft 212 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: chat in many days, Mike ge who asks great questions 213 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: and he's dialed first off, he said, and census on Twitter, 214 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: and more importantly among Cubs beat members is that this 215 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: wasn't a credible report. Okay, well we're bringing it up. 216 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: And then he also brought up Showeda's numbers, specifically with 217 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: first inning issues. This is what I wanted to ask you, guys. 218 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: So SHOWDA was awesome in twenty twenty four, really good 219 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: still in twenty twenty five. This is Mike g writing 220 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: second through eighth inning ERA three oh one, first inning 221 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: ERA seven to two zero. So it seems something that 222 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: can reasonably be fixed. 223 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 3: There's a lot of guys to have that. 224 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, some of the best pitchers, some of the best pitchers, 225 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 4: their worst innings are the first innings. And I'm not 226 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 4: saying he's a cy young candidate or you know, if 227 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 4: he hadn't had those first innings, he would have been. 228 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 4: But the first inning is when you get to some 229 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 4: guys because then they settle in, they get in the 230 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 4: rhythm of the game, and it's a lot tougher because 231 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 4: you're starting to feel your pitches out. 232 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: Can that be changed? 233 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: Obviously, he's got to look at To me, the more 234 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: glaring thing was Showeda was the home runs All of 235 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 4: a sudden, those balls that he was getting the swings 236 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: and misses or the pop ups to then be able 237 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 4: to get the finish pitch we're going out of the ballpark. 238 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: To me, that's the biggest thing he did. 239 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 4: That lack did that loss in velocity create a little 240 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 4: bit less deception where guys were now squaring it up, 241 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 4: because to me, that's the overall glaring. Whether it happens 242 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: in the first inning like in the playoffs, or if 243 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: it happens part way through like it shows me he's 244 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 4: either not fully healthy or he's going to have a 245 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: consistent dip in velocity. And you know, he's going to 246 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 4: have to learn to be a pitch to different locations 247 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 4: because that velocity is not getting that swing and miss 248 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 4: or foul tip on the heater that he wants. 249 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: Mhm. 250 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: And as to if the report's true or not, we're 251 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: never going to know. But I mean, we at least 252 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: know that they didn't love Shoda enough to give him 253 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: that club option that they had, and then you know, 254 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: showed it didn't take on his lower player option, he 255 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: took on this qualifying offer. So we will never know. 256 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we only only the owner really knows. Tom Ricketts, 257 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: But doctor D said could have easily got three to 258 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: five years at twenty MILLI a year from another team, 259 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,599 Speaker 1: even though he's not worth that. I'm going to disagree 260 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: on that front. I think that's too much that he 261 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: would have commanded here, and now he's going to wipe 262 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: away this qualifying offer draft pick that's attached to him 263 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: for when he hits the free agent market next year. 264 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 4: I think his number, I think his number was under 265 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 4: that fifty million threshold, and which affects the draft pick. 266 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 4: So teams that are sitting there going, Okay, this guy's 267 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 4: thirty two years old, what are we going to give 268 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: him because we're getting or giving up a draft pick, 269 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 4: they're very hesitant, and I forget we had somebody on 270 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 4: and they were talking about how much that draft pick 271 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 4: is worth in the millions, and essentially owners are just 272 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 4: taking off of guys contracts, their salaries. So I have 273 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: a hard time, hard time believing he would have gotten 274 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 4: even three years. To me, I thought he probably would 275 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: have been in like the thirty five to thirty eight 276 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 4: for two years type of range, and giving up a 277 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 4: draft pick too could could have squashed that even more. 278 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: And the other comment here Todd Father Neil kat saying 279 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: why are both Chicago teams operating like small market teams? 280 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: First off, the clubs make a lot more money than 281 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: the White Sox, that's a fact. But still he's got 282 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: a great point. Those teams market wise should be leading 283 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: the pack in their respective divisions in terms of how 284 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: much they invest into the ball club, and they don't. 285 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: You could say we're a broken record for complaining about 286 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: how some teams spend and some teams don't. But Chicago 287 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: fans definitely have a strong case. 288 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: Yeah they do. And like we said before, Kraftsy's like, 289 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: don't let me get started with all this money talk 290 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: and that stuff. It's they have the money, and a 291 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: lot of teams make more money than others. But still 292 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: these owners wouldn't be in this business if it wasn't, 293 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: you know, profitable for these guys. So what I love 294 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: to see the White Sox go out and spend. Yes, 295 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: it's just not their m right now. But the Cubs 296 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: I have no reason not to go out and try 297 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: and find some super super athletes to help this team 298 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: get over the hump again and get back to a 299 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: World Series. 300 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 301 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: To me, I think the Kyle Tucker acquisition is everything 302 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: you need to know. It's not about what they're doing 303 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: right now, Kratz. It's the fact that even when he 304 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: came on board, it didn't sound like there were ever 305 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: real discussions about an extension, and that should tell you 306 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: everything you need to know about where the Cubs are at. 307 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: You give up assets, you get a guy like this, 308 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: you clearly value him highly, not highly enough to shout 309 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: out big dollars. I think they're just one of those 310 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: teams that doesn't believe in those big ass contracts. The 311 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: Asters do this sometimes too, They don't go past a 312 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: certain point. 313 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: This is the facts, not our opinion. It's the facts. 314 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: Look at the numbers. 315 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: Spreading rumor's time. Let's get ready to load up to tweets. Okay, 316 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: so this is what happens more and more in the 317 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: off season, really all the time nowadays. On social media. 318 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: Someone says something, someone who's credible, someone who does a 319 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: lot of homework, and then aggregators take bits and pieces 320 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: and make it pop. They put a little sizzle on it. Wow, 321 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: and then people go crazy, Yeah, just a little snap 322 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: crackle pop for Todd Father. I get excited and be like, 323 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: look at this, look at this post. It has a 324 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: million views on it. Yeah, but Todd, the problem is 325 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: it's it's not actually true. It's a fictional post. So 326 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's show the two tweets, and it's 327 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: kind of a problem. It could have been a problem 328 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: segment for Todd father. So here is the Yankees only 329 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter. The Rangers are looking to shed payroll and 330 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: are reportedly open to moving Corey Seger. Segert isn't on 331 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: the Yankees no trade list, which means he'd be eligible 332 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: to be dealt to New York with no veto rights, 333 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: and he credits Evan Grant for putting out this report. 334 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: Our buddy Evan comes out on Twitter himself and says, 335 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: here's what I said about Seeker. I did not say 336 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: the Rangers are open to moving him. I suggested they 337 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: could have to explore the possibility of moving a big 338 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: contract if it cuts payroll below two hundred million dollars. 339 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: See the differences there top oither. We had this too. 340 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: Bob Nightingale, who's one of our our regular insiders now 341 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: was talking about how maybe the Padres would move someone 342 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: like Fernando Tatis. Here's actually a big problem among the 343 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: audience these days because Jim Bowden suffers from this sometimes too. 344 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: Insiders and analysts will throw out ideas and then people 345 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: will aggregate it, and then they will go after them, like, oh, 346 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: Bob says they're gonna trade tatis, and when they don't 347 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: trade tattis, are gonna be like, see Bob, you didn't 348 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: know they're trading him. He's just bringing up ideas. This 349 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: is what we do in the off season. Your thoughts. 350 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is just right up my alley. I can't 351 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: stand if somebody says some you gotta be I guess 352 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: you gotta be so specific in what you say. It's 353 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: not gonna tell young kids today. These young kids have 354 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 2: Twitter and Instagram by dude double and triple. Check what 355 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: you write on there. If you write a word wrong 356 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: and or you spell it wrong, or do this. I mean, 357 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 2: John Hayman had the one. Was it Arson Judge or 358 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: whatever the heck that? I don't know what it was, 359 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: but long story short, he didn't say anything of the sort, 360 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: and somebody takes it like, oh, I'm gonna make this 361 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: spicy so I can get some likes and love. 362 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 3: I don't like it. 363 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: I don't like it at all. It's fishy. 364 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 4: Sometimes I say things on the show that just make 365 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 4: Todd Mann. Just to say things, that's it. You don't 366 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 4: want to make I want to make Todd mad. And 367 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 4: I feel like that's kind of what can happen on 368 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 4: Twitter sometimes. But let's explore it so somebody can take 369 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 4: my words out of out of context. Who wouldn't want 370 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 4: Corey Seeger? Why wouldn't the Rangers want a little payroll shedding. 371 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 4: That's a lot of payroll shedding. There's but to me, 372 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 4: who has more value the two guys that you have 373 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 4: that you could shed payroll with. It's Corey Seeger and 374 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 4: Marcus Simeon. I don't think anybody's really clamoring after Marcus Simeon. 375 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 4: You could shed, you could get rid of the payroll, 376 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 4: but you're gonna have to pay for it. So it's 377 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 4: not really just getting it's just getting rid of the player. 378 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 4: Corey Seger. He would slot into any spot. But the 379 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 4: thing you have to remember is if it doesn't happen 380 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 4: this year, he gets his ten and five rights after 381 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: this season. So if they're exploring it, if please capital letters, 382 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 4: if it has to happen this year, it has to 383 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: happen before he hits that ten and five. 384 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: It's the same thing we just spoke to Ken Rosenthal 385 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: about with Kitel Marte. There is a deadline for a team, 386 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: and that's why writers will bring something like that up 387 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,239 Speaker 1: as an idea, because if they're ever going to do it, 388 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: now is the time or you have no more power. 389 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: And someone like Corey Seeger probably is not going to 390 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: movee right, He's won his titles. He settled in Texas, 391 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: you have the income tax, so you'd have to actually 392 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: make up that difference if he goes anywhere else. A 393 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: lot of things changed suddenly for a big money player. 394 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: But do we think he's going to be traded? Raise 395 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: your hand if you think he's going to be traded 396 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: on our ray out here exactly, thank you. But it 397 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: was a fun twenty four hours for the Secret Family 398 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: and for Evan Grant coming up to you for the Yankees. 399 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, always, Yank, of course it is. 400 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 5: That's what he said, That's what he said, That's what 401 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 5: he said. 402 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: That's what he said. Beef has emerged. Adam Outavino out 403 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: of the sport and into the media world a friend 404 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: of ours on this show, and he was very critical 405 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: on his show of the Mets in the way that 406 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: they manage their pitching staff. So he has a pod 407 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: called Baseball and Coffee, and I'll let him describe what happened, 408 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: and then we'll go over the follow up. There have 409 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: been some good articles research wise to try and kind 410 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: of back up or go against what he said. So 411 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: first here's Adam Ottobino popping off. 412 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 5: And then this is the other issue. And this is 413 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 5: something that really upsets me deep in my soul because man, 414 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 5: I've talked about, talked with every single one of these 415 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 5: guys about having to take control over their own career 416 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 5: because the team is not going to keep them healthy. 417 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 5: They need to find a way to keep themselves healthy. 418 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 5: McGill goes down, Garrett goes down, Krannic goes down, Daniel 419 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 5: Nunials goes down, Danny Jung goes down, all Tommy John's, 420 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 5: not to mention Drew Smith really headed Tommy John. 421 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 3: It's just too many injuries. 422 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 5: So they have to figure out something, whether it's their protocols, 423 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 5: whether it's the way Carlos uses these dudes, you know, 424 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 5: so haphazardly, you know, whether they even care about keeping 425 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 5: the guys healthy or not, but they need to be 426 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 5: better than this. This is embarrassing. This is actually pathetic, 427 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 5: like pathetic. I would have never let this happen. If 428 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 5: I was on the team last year, at least half 429 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 5: these guys wouldn't have blown out. I would have protected 430 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 5: these dudes myself. I would have to jump in front 431 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 5: of them myself. Fortunately, there was nobody willing to stand 432 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 5: up and talk. 433 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 3: To Carlos this year. That was just me. 434 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 5: I guess, so bit of an issue there, And if 435 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 5: they continue down this path, they're going to be because 436 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 5: you cannot injure this many dudes every year. And it's 437 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 5: hopefully this is not an actual strategy because it's freaking 438 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 5: pathetic and it's not player friendly and eventually people will 439 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 5: catch on. And it's funny as they were bragging about 440 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 5: how good they were keeping people healthy the year before 441 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,239 Speaker 5: and had nothing to do with them. So yeah, I'm 442 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 5: a little annoyed because these are guys that should be playing. 443 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: So it pisses me. 444 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: Wow, And Adam Outabino is a pretty chill dude, and 445 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: he popped off. And Will Salmon, who covers the team 446 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: among other things, did an article today. He put it out. 447 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: He spoke tout Abino, who kind of commented like, I 448 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: like everything else about Mendy, but he said, you know, 449 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: he's kind of backed up what he said. John gibbins, 450 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: he spoke to his bench coach who completely disagreed. And 451 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: Ghibbe certainly is coming from an old school cut of cloth, 452 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: who said that the bullpen usage was on point, and 453 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: if anything, he felt like there were times where they 454 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: were overprotecting the guy. In this article phrase Samon wrote. 455 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: By most measures, the Mets under Mendoz have no glaring 456 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: red flags for their reliever usage. Over the last two years, 457 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: New York ranks twenty first in relief appearances on consecutive days. 458 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: Of the fifty eight pitchers who have appeared in seventy 459 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: or more games in neither of the last two seasons, 460 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: just three of them were Mets, all trade deadline acquisitions 461 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: that were already on pace for that many games when acquired. 462 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: There's a ton of research in here that essentially shows 463 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: that the Mets are not really doing anything different from 464 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: any other ball club, and they're protecting pictures just as much. 465 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: Right so, we can look at a starting staff that 466 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: was a disaster for the most part this past season 467 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: and say, yeah, you're gonna need more bullpen help. But 468 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: do we really feel like we watched the Mets in 469 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: the past couple of years and think, ah, they're just 470 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: beating up their relievers. 471 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: No, I haven't. Honestly, I didn't watch them that much 472 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: during the year. I watched a little bit because my 473 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: son loves the Mets, so he'd put him on. But 474 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: you felt that one, man, Oh man, you felt that. 475 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: I love Adam. I I've gotten along with Adam. He's 476 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: a great picture out of you know, it's really good, dude. 477 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 2: Something was was hurting him there. Man, he's you know, 478 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: he's had enough, so something over there when he's with 479 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: the Mets, something bothered him, and this was this might 480 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: have been the icing on the cake of the whole thing. 481 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: Seeing all these injuries and him to be that passionate 482 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: about it and understandable as a player, it means that 483 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: much more. So there's more to it. There's gotta be. 484 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: There's always more to this story and to this thing. 485 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: You know, guys are injured, of course, but I would 486 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: love to talk to ad him about the whole situation 487 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: in scenario. Maybe maybe there's not Maybe it's just something 488 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: that he's very passionate about. And you know, the injuries. 489 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: It seems like there's a bunch of injuries every year, 490 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: but with the Mets, you know, what can happen will happen, 491 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 2: you know, and it's just uh, you know it was 492 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: it was that was hardcore right there. 493 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 3: Man. 494 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: You know, I like Adam for even stepping up and 495 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 2: saying something. You know, whether he's right or wrong, I 496 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: give him credit. 497 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: I mean, those are his boys. 498 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 4: Those are the guys he just played with, the guys 499 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 4: that you're sitting in the bullpen with because most of 500 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 4: them were bullpen I get at McGill with the starter, 501 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 4: but anytime I see bullpen issues with injuries over use 502 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 4: and you're like, oh, there could be some injuries. Like 503 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 4: I look at the Guardians and their bullpend. The guys 504 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 4: that are down. 505 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: There are getting crushed. 506 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 4: I don't really blame voter when you don't have anybody 507 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 4: going deep. I forget how many starts in a row. 508 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 4: I think it was over twenty five starts in a 509 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 4: row that nobody went more than five innings. Not talking 510 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 4: about nobody went more than six innings. You're talking about 511 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 4: every single night for twenty five straight games. You have 512 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 4: to pick up at least four innings at least, and 513 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 4: for Mendy to still keep those numbers below there, I 514 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 4: have a hard time getting in line with what Auto said. Now, 515 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 4: I didn't watch it as much except for the fact 516 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 4: that you just look at the numbers and you're like, hey, 517 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 4: these guys weren't overused. Now you're in the clubhouse. Auto 518 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 4: was in the clubhouse, and he's talked to some of 519 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 4: these guys. Maybe some of them were hanging. Maybe they 520 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 4: were kind of saying, hey, we need you out there, 521 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 4: we need you out there, we need you out there. 522 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 4: Maybe there was kind of a push in that sense. 523 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 4: So maybe there's some background or stuff in the background 524 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 4: that we don't know about. 525 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: But as far as. 526 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 4: Just a outing standpoint, and this made Tommy Johns seems 527 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: like a seems like a random year for or seems 528 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 4: like a regular year for the Rays. The Dodgers like 529 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 4: teams that are pushing guys to the limit with how 530 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 4: much they throw and how much and how much you know, 531 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 4: how hard they throw and the extreme velocities and spin 532 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 4: that they're putting on the ball. 533 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I do watch a ton of Mets games. 534 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: Most of my family they're massive Mets fans and again, 535 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 1: we're going back here, and I'm right in line. I mean, 536 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: I've been critical as hell of what David Stearns has 537 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: decided to do with his cherry picking and as AJ 538 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: calls it, playing in the kiddie pool for starting pitching 539 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: when the rest of your roster is beefed up and expensive, 540 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: it's just not going to work on a year to 541 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: year basis. You're gonna have some years like twenty four 542 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: where it hits. You're gonna have more years like twenty 543 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: five when Frankie Montas does not work out for you. 544 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: And Sean Manaia has had injury injuries in the past, 545 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: they popped up again for him. This year wasn't a 546 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: strong Senga's had a long list of injuries in the past. 547 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: That's why he was cheaper. He could pitch like a 548 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: one when he's healthy. So some of this was who 549 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: they were buying into. Often those pitchers that are cheaper 550 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: have a long injury background, right, that's a big thing, 551 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: that's Montas. There's so many more stats here, though, Guys. 552 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: Of the sixty two pitchers who have compiled at least 553 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: seventy innings in relief in either of the past two seasons. 554 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: Just one was a met Rogers deadline acquisition, right, He said, 555 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: this is Will Sammon's report. Three times in the last 556 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: two years as a Mets reliever appeared at least fourteen 557 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: times in the month. League average is six and a 558 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: half per team. Six times at Mets relievers throwing fifteen 559 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: or more innings in a month, just above the league 560 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: average of five point seven per team. So it's about average. 561 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,479 Speaker 1: That's why you look at this team. The one thing 562 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: I looked at was, damn they have no starting pitching, 563 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: and I actually think they did an okay job of 564 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: trying to manage their bullpen that had to pick up 565 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: for the starting pitching all the time. The real story 566 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: of the Mets to Mekratz was you look at all 567 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: the young guys they called up early, and some of 568 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: them were great, like McLean, but you didn't expect any 569 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: of them to get called up. But their starting staff 570 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: fell apart. So I just don't see it. This is 571 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: where you have to just go back and forth with 572 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: Auto and get the specifics. Last thing I will say, 573 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: if a guy is hanging and to describe that to 574 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: our fans, like they're not feeling good enough to pitch 575 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: that day, they need to talk to the medical staff 576 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: where the medical staff addresses that, and then they need 577 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: to go on the il. 578 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 4: YEP and players always want to play through things. I sure, 579 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 4: because I have a good connection with Mendy. I have 580 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 4: a hard time believing and watching the games, have a 581 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 4: hard time believing that they push these guys too hard, 582 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 4: because he really, really deeply cares about the players, and 583 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 4: knowing David Stearns, I have a hard time believing that 584 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 4: he would he would like send down some kind of 585 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 4: edict and say, wow, we got these guys like you 586 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 4: have to put up No, they understand. They both understand 587 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 4: trying to keep players healthy. And I would say the 588 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 4: Mets are not an organization that sits there and goes 589 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 4: we don't care if they get hurt, Because there are 590 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 4: definitely some organizations where I would disagree with that statement. 591 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 4: I think they are fine with it because they have 592 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 4: a whole cavalcade of more guys running into the bullpen 593 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 4: like we're starting to get into the era in some 594 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 4: organizations where it really is a bullpen like it really is, 595 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 4: we'll just get more cattle. As soon as those cattle 596 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 4: are done, we move them out. 597 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 3: And move the. 598 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 4: Next cattle in. And that's how that's how teams run. 599 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 4: You know, a cheaper bullpen. 600 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Raising Guardians have been that for years and 601 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: they've had some of the better bullpens. They will use 602 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: them to death and then you'll never hear from them again. 603 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: It's just how it works. I'm singling out two teams. 604 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: There are many others. Anyway. Auto pitched sixty plus appearances 605 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: for the Mets a couple of years ago. You would 606 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: think he knows better than we do. So there's a 607 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: side to it that I would love to bring him 608 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: on to ask about. And I'm sure we'll get him 609 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: again at some point this offseason to talk about it. Hey, 610 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of retweets for the rays On 611 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: Socials today because they're putting the old crappy park back together. 612 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, a ton of respect and credit. Yeah, 613 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: look at that Todd father to the hard workers who 614 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: also are putting their lives on the line to try 615 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: and put that paper mache roof back together. It is 616 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: not easy. That things only going to hopefully have to 617 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: be up for a few more years and they'll smash 618 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: it in Avenue Park. But it was just a panel 619 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: by panel. Thank you to everyone who worked to put 620 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: that trot back together. I disagree that they should have 621 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: just had it smashed and have a park already, but 622 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: it is what it is. Good work because that place 623 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: is a dump. But good work that they put it 624 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: back together for now. 625 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 2: Very good, very good. Ah Man, I get I get 626 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: the shivers just looking at those people that high. 627 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: Man. 628 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily afraid of heights, but I don't like them, 629 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 2: you know. But it's uh. I could see Cratzy up 630 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: there for sure. 631 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 3: Man. 632 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: If if his wife he said, hey, you're gonna have 633 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: to go to Tampa and fix this, He's going to 634 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: do it. But I'll tell my wife, listen, you do 635 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: what you want. I'm not doing that. I'm sorry. 636 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 3: You say whatever you'd say yes to whatever she says. 637 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: So I get it. 638 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 4: Some people don't like heights, you know. I don't like 639 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 4: I don't like white roofs with a white baseball. Like, 640 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 4: could we have gotten a panel, I know it's only 641 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 4: a few years that this is gonna happen, or even 642 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 4: like every other panel, like a black panel or something. 643 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 4: Maybe they maybe, I don't know, maybe they fixed this issue. 644 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 4: But man, Kevin Kiermeier sitting out there, going. 645 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 3: Where's of all? Well? 646 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 4: I took my eye off it, Like, could we have 647 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 4: gotten some black or brown panels? 648 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: Please? 649 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: Guys? Do you think they don't do it? Is it 650 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: like a lighting thing? 651 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 3: Right? Like? 652 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: So if it was black? 653 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: Does that was? 654 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 4: It was supposed to be like a light What I 655 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 4: heard was supposed to be like a light slash like ambiance, 656 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 4: So it doesn't feel like you're completely closed in in 657 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 4: an indoor stadium. They didn't like that feel. I'm like, yeah, 658 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 4: but there's flyballs in baseball. You got to catch them. Oh, 659 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 4: it's it's a grind. I you never take your eye 660 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 4: off it. It's fine, but if you like look down 661 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 4: to see if somebody's gonna hit you, or you look 662 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 4: for the fence. 663 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 3: And you look back up, you're like gone forever, no idea. 664 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: Isn't that what the Vegas Park's gonna look like? Don't 665 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: they have a bunch of white panels. 666 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 4: They're putting mirrors and things that reflect the sun so 667 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 4: that you really can't see anything and it'll just be 668 00:32:53,280 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 4: blind ball, all. 669 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: Right, kratz hats, we only have a minute. You can 670 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: show your hat, And why were you messing with us. 671 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: I know this was on a break for some people, 672 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: they missed this part. But you said Town's not for 673 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: the Knicks. Why'd you say that he is? 674 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 4: Because I wanted to hear if anybody actually knew what 675 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 4: team he was playing for. 676 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: Them. 677 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: I know who's gonna who's gonna say it? You got 678 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: two people here, bud. 679 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 4: Well, neither one of you, and I know the one 680 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 4: guy is a Nets fan. The other guy doesn't even 681 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 4: you weren't even good at basketball. 682 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm not a Nets fan. 683 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 2: Who are you saying wasn't good at basketball? 684 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 3: Bro? 685 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 2: Thousand points score? 686 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 3: Bro, that's my trolling session of the show. 687 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah you can offer, Khan offered. 688 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: I look at it every time I'm at the studio, 689 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: me and baby all day. You rip, Rip City, Rip 690 00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 1: ham Man 691 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 5: Two