WEBVTT - John Harbaugh: Press Conference (11/20) 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:05.760 Welcome into the Ravens Press Pass podcast. It is Monday, 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:07.880 November twentieth, and the Ravens are gearing up for a 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:13.400 matchup on Prime Time on Sunday against the Los Angeles Chargers. Now, 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:15.120 as the Ravens get ready for that matchup, we had 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.320 a chance to talk with head coach John Harbaugh today 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.079 and he provided up updates on the injury front on 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:23.560 several key players and also looked ahead the Sunday's game 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:25.560 in La. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:27.160 Okay. 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:30.240 Good to see everybody. Appreciate you guys being here. I 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.560 hope you had a good weekend. We are working on 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:39.040 the Chargers game coming up, had a chance to study, 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.400 you know, the Bengals game on Friday as the coaching staff. 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:46.120 The players will come back in tomorrow afternoon and we'll 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.279 probably debrief on the Bengals game just a little bit, 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:51.199 make our corrections, things that we need to build on 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:54.600 going forward, you know, for the next game, and then 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:56.720 it'll be all about our next opportunity. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:00.319 So what question do you have the game? 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.480 We talked about Mark likely being out with all the 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:07.360 tests that's going on, is at a definitive. 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.080 Yes, Yeah, it's not. Nothing's completely definitive yet. But my 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.440 understanding is in talking with our trainer and the doctors, 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:19.039 is that it wasn't as bad as initially feared right 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:24.760 after the game. That there is there is the type 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.759 of damage that's done sometimes and that kind of an 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:29.560 action what happens to the ankle, But it wasn't as 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:31.959 bad as it could have been. It's a little cleaner 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.360 than they thought based on the MRI. He's going to 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:40.840 be involved with doctor Anderson down there in Carolina Charlotte 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.920 here the next few days and that we'll know more. 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:45.880 But there might be an outside chance you could get 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:47.840 back at some point in time. So we'll just have 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:49.360 to see how that goes on. And I want to 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:57.200 say that's definitive by a stretch, but there is some optimism. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:57.600 John. 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:01.160 I had a couple of fans ask why UH brought 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:02.920 our Washington was active. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.760 There's a curious yeah. 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.240 I mean it just has to do with our opponent. 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.440 You know, the types of formations and personnel groups they 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.120 were in, type of game they play on offense. It 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.880 was a it was a just a strategic decision in 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.640 terms of how best use our personnel and. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.120 What did that technology that what did you see it 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.440 from his play. Uh, you know this year compared to 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.040 the last year, and obviously you guys gave him the 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:26.440 contract extension in August. 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:30.680 Excited about right, Yeah, Brodus brought I love broader, I 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:32.960 mean broader because uh he's the guy that just brings 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.520 it every single practice, every single game. 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:36.600 Very physical player. 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.600 Uh it does a great job pushing the pocket pass 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:40.280 run game. 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:44.440 Uh. Leader tone center for sure. 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.320 Uh, just one of our He's a Ravens so uh 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.040 we love it when he's out there. He understood situation, 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.240 you know, and uh just kind of that's a week 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.920 to week process remark. 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.880 Obviously beyond his what he brings the tables and receivers, 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.320 he's a very good blocker. What have you seen from 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.960 Isaiah Likely and Charlie Colors they've kind of improved as 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:07.560 young growing blockers. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.320 Also, Yeah, I have seen that Ryan. I mean those 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.960 guys are they develop and they've been getting better really 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.280 every day, you know, every part of every part of 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:19.040 their game. You know, as tight ends in inline blocking, 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:22.080 perimeter blocking, past game stuff. You know, as Charlie made 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.800 the catch Asay had numerous perimeter blocks are outstanding. Charlie's 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:27.560 been doing a really good job with the inline blocking 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.680 the last month or so that he's been out there 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.560 doing it. So have full confidence in those guys. I 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:33.480 know they're going to go in there. 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.320 And get their shot and do a great job with it. 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:41.040 I'm at an opportunity to spend some time with your 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:42.840 brother before, during. 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:44.960 Or after the Michigan game. Yeah, yeah, we did. 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.800 They came over, Jim and Sarah came over and watched 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.640 it with Ingrid and I. So we watched that game. 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.320 Tough game, great win for Michigan. Kudos to Maryland. They 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.280 played played a great ball game. So we got a 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:58.840 chance to watch it. So it was fun. 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:00.240 Was that experience like. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.400 To watch the game with the guy who's supposed to 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:03.160 be on the sidewink? 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.760 Yeah, yeah, it was fun. I mean I enjoyed it. 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:07.920 You know, it's it's my brother. I think he would 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:09.360 he would have rather been on the sideline. I got 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.560 a pretty good feeling. But we appreciate him. 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:12.160 Being over the house. 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:13.440 Uh. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:17.159 Sarah was She was great as always, charming and uh 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.680 we had we had sandwiches and the snacks. Would you 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:26.080 like the menu, Jerry? Yeah, yeah, no, it wasn't catered. 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:26.800 It wasn't catered. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.200 Make our own sandwiches most of the time. But uh, 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.279 uh no, it was it was good. And uh he 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:34.880 did have his play sheet and his call shoot in 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:36.600 front of him, and you know, that was kind of 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:38.239 fun to talk a little football during the game. 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.760 Did you learn anything about like the way he. 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.480 Yeah, I think so. I think so got some insight 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:48.960 in the way he thinks. Uh, you know, I know 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:52.920 he's very involved with the play calling offensively obviously, and 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:56.560 and uh, you know that's something that's uh, I just 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.120 I credit his team and his coaching staff for overcoming that. 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.080 I mean, it's it's a big tough it's a challenging 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.720 thing not to have your head coach out there. He's 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:08.960 an offensive coach obviously, quarterback quarterback coach, very involved in 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.200 everything they're doing. But that's hard for him. You know, 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.600 I'm not considering say it's not you know, and you know, 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.920 obviously I think it's incredibly unfair, you know what's going on. 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.320 That's how I feel about it. And but I think 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.039 he's handled it at the highest level. He had, you know, 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.719 someone like you know, in that situation, you have no power, 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:28.800 you have no say in any of it. You just 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.760 do what they tell you to do. That's what you 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.880 have to do. And uh and and the facts aren't 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:39.240 all understood or or out. But certainly the quote unquote 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:44.080 investigation is not complete. It's not even close. So but 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.120 that's where it stands. Just from a personal level, that's 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.000 all aside the chance to be together as a family. 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.120 It was it was great. I enjoyed it and I'm 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:53.080 sure glad that came up. 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:53.320 With a win. 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:59.760 John, Have you seen enough from Travis vocalect believe that 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.279 he could be a guy who could help you here 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:06.400 going forward, if you, you know, add a third tight end. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:06.880 To your roster. 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.919 Yeah, I mean I think that's definitely process. You know, 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.719 a work in progress. He's he looks good in practice. 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.599 The Travis does a great job. He's tough on our guys, 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.960 he makes catches. He's developing as a blocker. You know, 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.120 it's a little bit tough to develop in season the 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.400 way the rules are now for young guys. I do 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.159 have to say, because you're not in pads very much, 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.760 you know, you're not really doing things that help guys 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.680 develop as football players. And that's that's that's one of 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.039 the sad things about the way it works. It's necessary, 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.640 but it's just it's just tough. So I don't think 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:41.040 you really know about what a person could actually bring 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:43.159 to the table until you get him out there, So 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.000 we wouldn't know for sure, but I would say all 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.080 all arrows are pointed up for sure. You know, he 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:49.840 does a great job and I'm excited about his future. 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.520 John, with your reaction to Joe Flacco none back in 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:58.600 the league, but vaguer the Cleveland Yeah, yeah, it's great 0:06:58.600 --> 0:06:59.000 for Joe. 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.480 And I saw where Joe had said a few times 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.840 where he was he wanted to play still and still 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:05.800 had still had plenty of juice left. 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.160 So I don't doubt Joe. I never doubt Joe. 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:12.400 You know, he's he's an ultimate competitor, and you know, 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:13.480 we'll see what happens. 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.280 John, more than ten weeks into the season now, just 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.880 where big picture you seniors, your team make the most 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:25.400 strides and maybe achieve some goals that you've been hoping 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.120 for and progressing toward as. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.080 You continue want well, I mean, you know, we're just 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:31.680 so much in the middle of that right now. It's 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.400 really it's really just right now, we're just trying to 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.720 get ready for the Chargers game, you know, and get 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.600 our game plan together. You watch that team on tape, 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:45.480 how talented they are all three phases. Great quarterback, you know, 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:51.920 great skill players, high draft picks, really everywhere. So that's 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:53.520 really what we're just kind of getting ready for. But 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.520 I will say this about our team in terms of development, 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.600 I just love the way they play. I mean, we 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.520 we play hard, and we play with discipline, you know, 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:06.200 we try we do our best to play smart and 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.520 h and they're very conscientious about that, try to do 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:12.000 the right things that lend themselves to winning, you know, 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:13.880 And that's what you appreciate as a coach. They care 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.080 about that, they care about winning and playing winning football. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.000 And again, they just play so darn hard. You just 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:21.920 have to be proud of them. I put the tape on, 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:23.600 I'm proud of that part of it. I'm proud of 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.960 a lot of it. But that speaks to who they 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.440 are as people and players. So just got to keep 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:30.440 building on all those things. 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.400 Yeah, way some people talk about pass rush, they kind 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:35.959 of re use it to one on one matches, But 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:37.959 the way you guys play, it's a lot of teamwork, 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.520 it's a lot of selflessness. How do you think that 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:43.800 those two facts are kind of play into the way 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:44.920 that you guys have played this year. 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.200 Right, Well, that's a good point. I mean, you know, 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:47.800 it is both. 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:49.720 It is one on one matchups a lot of times, 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:51.920 but it's also teamwork and playing together. I mean, even 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.200 when you are one on one, you've got there's five 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.960 rush lanes and four guys usually, and you have to 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.120 account for all those rush lanes, and the quarterback gets out, 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.600 which he has against you know, quarterbacks have gotten out 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.200 and made some yards. They did in this last game too, 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.360 and they do every week in the NFL. Yet you 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.320 try to minimize that. So you can't get sacks if 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.120 the quarterback's running away, So you got to work together. 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.240 I never see the sack that was just completely one 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.319 on one. Completely, I mean, there's always a team effort 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.200 involved there. But then to your point, you add in 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.120 the blitz patterns and the and the and the and 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.840 the games and stunts and all that being executed at 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:24.640 a high level. A lot of times it's the guy 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.359 doesn't get the sacked that deserves most of the credit sometimes. 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:29.240 And the fact that I think we have fourteen guys 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.840 who've gotten sacks this year, uh, still too shy of 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.480 last year. We had sixteen different guys get sacks last year. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:39.640 I was told, So that's that's a credit really to 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.640 that point you're making. But really, any way you can 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.360 get them is the way you want them. 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:47.600 Taking on that in the summer when we talked a 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.520 lot about Chucksmith coming to work with the young pass rushers, 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:54.400 and then you know always production recently, I mean, are 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.480 we sort of seeing to that labor, I mean, is 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:58.960 he is he more sophisticated pass rusher. 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.040 Maybe than he was when he in the league? Oh? 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.400 Yeah, absolutely, Charles a great point. I mean, Chuck Smith 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.280 does a great job. I think he's an outstanding coach. Uh, 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.120 he's got he's a technician. Uh, he's very Uh he 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.040 studied this thing his whole life, you know, and his 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.720 whole adult life, I know. And uh, and then you 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.800 know Anthony Weavers another great coach. Those guys team up 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.240 and work together on that. They do just a phenomenal 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:22.839 Nobody does a better job in the league than those 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.240 two guys coaching the pass rush part of it. And 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.280 then to your point about a da Fe worked incredibly 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.760 hard at it and he's still i mean on the ascent, 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:34.600 he is getting better all the time. And I think 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.240 he's gonna you know, he hasn't even I don't think 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.880 he even scratched the service yet about how what kind of 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.000 player he can be, pass rusher, run, defense. 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:44.360 All of it. You play improvements, where has. 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.960 He made an improvements can be more specific hands. 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:49.559 Speed where all. 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:51.760 I mean, you know, he's a much better game runner, 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:53.920 you know, all the he's a better penetrator, he's a 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.120 better looper in terms of timing up that it's cleaner 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:57.880 now than it used to be. Mike a lot of times, 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.640 you know, especially with the t East, you know, we're 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.920 not getting that, we're not getting jammed up and slowed 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:04.439 down as much as we were off of the off 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:06.120 of the penetrator. I also think the one on one 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:10.160 moves have really really smoothed out. You know, uh, spin 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.360 move has moved out. Not perfect, you know a lot 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.720 of times, but he's got four or five kind of 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.440 kind of moves. I would say, two or three go 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.480 to moves and probably four or five moves over all 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.880 that he uses pretty regularly. That's that's a big, a 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:23.959 big addition to what he was before more just kind 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.320 of a straight speed rusher probably when we first got here. 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.240 So Yeah, he's working hard on all that stuff. 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:33.320 Justin NBK, and he's blowing away all his career stats 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:34.040 from before this. 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:39.119 Sorry because you go ahead and beat the whole question. 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:44.080 Blowing away all his career that's from previous seasons. What 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.200 have you learned about him watching your comings to his 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.280 own that maybe you didn't know before. Has anything surprised 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:50.640 you as you've seen this season? 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.840 Yeah, justin great question, nothing really has surprised me because 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:57.440 I knew he was gonna have a great season. You know, 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:59.720 you could see it in the spring summer. He kind 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:01.040 of saw the last couple of years. I mean, the 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.440 talent has really been there, and again it's a developmental thing. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.080 I mean, guys grows players third round pick a lot 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:10.160 of talent and has always played well for us, but man, 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.760 I mean another level just in terms of the combination 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.400 of his explosive talent, the time in the weight room 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:20.200 and all things he's worked on to just become bigger, faster, stronger, quicker, 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.120 all those things, but also the technique more consistent, much 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.280 more consistent technique wise play to play than he had 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.040 been before, and it's showing up in his stats. 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:33.760 Being that defensive team going Brandon Stevens. What you know, 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.079 he's played really nicely for you guys. This season is 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.680 a good lard where the strides are in the specific 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.400 areas you've seen, and pretty good with them. 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.880 Yeah, I think he's he's just seeing things quite kind 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.880 of quicker and probably processing in such more of a 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:53.120 kind of a subconscious way. He didn't play defensive back 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.120 a lot coming here and hadn't seen a lot of 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:58.520 those things happen, so I think he had to kind 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.559 of think his way through his reactions. Now not the case. 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.760 You know, he's reacting his way through his reactions. He's 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:07.320 seen it enough, he just responds and and it's just 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:08.560 playing faster as a result. 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:13.160 John, we saw Lamar kind of push through that that 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:14.000 ankle injury. 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:15.959 He said he was financing game. 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.160 But now four days removed, does it seem like giverything's 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:19.199 okay with one of that ankle? 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:19.680 It does. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:26.480 Thursday, I think it was Darby for two drives and yes, 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.199 he would come in. Then the fourth quarter we saw 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.280 Armor Davis a little bit. Was that a matter of 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.640 just you know, he's earning the playing time and you 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.800 wanted to see a young player play in that situation 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:38.600 and how would you assess, how would you perform? 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:40.680 Yeah, I mean I thought he played well a little 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.320 bit he was in there. We definitely want to get 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:43.640 him on the field and give him a chance to 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:45.520 kind of grow as a player. So that was an 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.840 opportunity to do it. And I also think there's competition 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.920 for those those reps you know out there. You know, 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.400 Marlin hopefully be back this week. We'll see, but uh 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.520 you know, we've got kind of a deep corner group 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.880 and they all want to play. So give you guys 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:02.120 a chance get out there and play and kind of 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:03.840 build it going forward. 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:06.599 John. 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.319 And then we asked you about the hip drops on Thursday, 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.280 you know, before today in USA. Today, one member of 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:17.040 the competition committee with the league suggested that the uh 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.120 or will be a waste of fan outright in the season. 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.480 You feel strongly you need to wag it up, just 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:24.040 the hip drop as. 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:25.840 A Yeah, I've kind of got in my mind to 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:27.960 plan for that. You know that if I was king 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.680 for a day what I would do. But I'm not, 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:36.160 so you know, no one cares. But from right now, 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.480 I just think that it's in good hands. You know, 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.800 the competition committee talks about those things and if they 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:44.800 decide to do something, it would be for a good reason. 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:45.040 I know. 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.600 I know Roger Goodell gets involved in all those things 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.480 as much as you can, and Rich and all those 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.480 guys do a great job. So whatever whatever they decide 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:58.160 to do at whatever point in time now would be 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.440 you know, you just you just bye bye and you say, hey, 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.680 it's what's best, you know. And then in the off season, 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.280 I'm sure they'll be debating, they'll be voted on and 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.320 all that, but right now we're just trying to try 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:08.480 to get ready for the next game. 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:09.800 How do you guys talk. 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.600 To your defensive players about that? I mean, is. 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:12.320 It is that? 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.120 Is that something you teach because it isn't the toolkit 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:15.640 right now? 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.240 Or is it just do they do my instinct? 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:19.200 Or how do you deal without? 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:19.600 As coach? 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.520 No, we don't teach it, you know we we we 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.200 don't teach it. I don't think I don't. I can't 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:25.920 remember one of our guys doing it. Maybe I'm wrong, 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.480 but I don't remember seeing it from one of our guys. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:30.280 It's not something we. 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:38.160 Teach left on injuries any anything. With Odell's shoulder, I 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.160 know it was it was a little rough after the game. 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:41.640 But any update there. 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.680 I mean, yeah, he's he's uh, he's not gonna be uh, 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:47.160 it's not kind of a long term shoulder thing. So 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.840 you guys have I promise you every single guy we 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:51.600 could sit in here. 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.160 You guys should probably want to sit in here and. 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.120 Go through every guy and there's exact status what they 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:03.840 got if which I'm not, but. 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:06.840 But you could, you know, so everybody's got something. I 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:08.600 got some things too. I could tell you my my 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:13.480 issues is you were really interesting John Andrews. 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:16.440 Will you which there a possibility you might use more 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:21.400 wide receiver packages and just oh sure, I think so, 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:25.160 you know, everything's on the table for sure, Mike. You know, 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.520 more wide receivers are going to play those guys, those 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.000 tight ends more than they have played, for sure. Kind 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:32.400 of keep it, mix it up. One thing we want 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:33.880 to always do is keep it moving. We don't want 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.240 to become and sometimes you have to be and we 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:37.880 have in the past. You know, you get forced into 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.880 certain kind of groups based on what your what you 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:44.040 what your roster looks like. But really I do believe 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:48.360 more than we have been you know in the recent memory, 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.040 we're probably more prepared to deal with something like this 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.320 than we have been. We have a lot of guys 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.640 that can step up and make plays wide receivers, tight ends, 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:00.360 running backs. Uh, feel really good about the guys that 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.240 are gonna all together fill in for Mark Andrews. I 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.280 mean Mark, listen, man, Mark is like such a competitor, 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.480 such a town as a superstar player, it's impossible to 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:13.520 replace him per se. We have to replace him together 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.600 as a group, and I really believe we can do it, 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:18.760 you know, and then when he gets back, we'll just 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.639 be that much stronger for it, you know, whatever that is. 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.280 Say there's an outside chance for I mean, are you 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.880 thinking like big like playoffs? 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:29.560 Maybe yeah. 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:31.400 I don't even want to say right now he's got 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.960 you know, once he gets back, maybe later, you know, 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.280 from this week. Maybe maybe that's something we could we 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.400 could mention and talk about because we would just know more. 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.200 And and also I probably have to lean into Mark 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:43.639 on that too, you know, what are his thoughts on it? 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:45.240 So I don't want to speak for Mark either, but 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.080 I knew to tell you this, there's no bigger competitor. 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:49.840 Nobody wants to be out there more than Mark Andrews. 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.040 I mean, this guy, he is all about He's all 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.240 about everything, but he's all about game day, you know. 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.520 So I try, you know, I'll get a hug every 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:57.800 now and then tell him I love him, because I 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.560 do love him, But I try to get too close 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.680 to him, you know, I mean, he's he's all about it. 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:04.840 What you take not here? 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:06.800