WEBVTT - S3 Episode 8: Least Expected

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<v Speaker 1>Drafted is a production of tree Fork Media, Clutch Sports Group,

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<v Speaker 1>and I Heart Radio. You're going to Minnesota. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to Drafted. I'm Steven Johnson and this is episode eight

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<v Speaker 1>of season three. Last episode, quarterback Kellen Man got drafted

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<v Speaker 1>by the Minnesota Vikings at the top of the third round.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone went crazy, So, I mean, it was a phenomenal

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<v Speaker 1>feeling in I tell a lot of people that was

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<v Speaker 1>probably one of the best feelings that I've ever had. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the third round continues at the Fitzpatrick draft party in Pontiac, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>Receiver Des Fitzpatrick, his parents, Greg and Wendy, and his

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<v Speaker 1>friends and family all watch as the third round continues,

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<v Speaker 1>and although ten receivers were drafted in the first two rounds,

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<v Speaker 1>none have been selected thus far in round three. Des

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<v Speaker 1>his mom Wendy, describes the mood as the third round

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<v Speaker 1>winds down. So Thursday, we knew it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be round one or two, you know, we expected that again.

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<v Speaker 1>We were hoping for a third and fourth. Third round came.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing transpired from that. We were getting a little nervous

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<v Speaker 1>at that point. By the end of the third round,

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<v Speaker 1>five more receivers hear their names called. That means five

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<v Speaker 1>more players get vel growed up on Greg Fitzpatrick's draft

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<v Speaker 1>board at the party, and with the draft almost halfway over,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly fifteen of the thirty receiver names death and his

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<v Speaker 1>dad originally laid out are now assigned to teams, while

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<v Speaker 1>does his name plate still looms large on the adjacent table.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's does his dad Greg on the situation. So after

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<v Speaker 1>day two at night, I was a little worried. That

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<v Speaker 1>could be honest, I was a little worried. Fifteen guys

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<v Speaker 1>have went and I said, Okay, Jesus, I'm getting worried

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, when day three happens, it's like he

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<v Speaker 1>could just start sliding, Like you just never know what's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen. So that night I couldn't sleep that night,

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<v Speaker 1>and before I went to bed, I said, you okay, man,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, yeah, dah. I knew it wasn't gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was the night he invited everyone over. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I gave a speech at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the night and say, hey and everybody and morning, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to come back tomorrow. There'll be plenty of food and

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<v Speaker 1>spirits tomorrow. So so you guys everybody come on. Back.

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<v Speaker 1>Rounds four through seven will take place on the third

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<v Speaker 1>and final day of the draft, and if Daz is

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<v Speaker 1>feeling any stress or pressure about falling into the later rounds,

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<v Speaker 1>were possibly even going undrafted, he isn't showing it. However,

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<v Speaker 1>his parents, Wendy and Greg, can see right through their sons.

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<v Speaker 1>Composed is the facade. I'll say this dance sometimes comes

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<v Speaker 1>across as a robot because he kind of protects his

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<v Speaker 1>emotions when it comes to the stuff, because he's been

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<v Speaker 1>on like this crazy roller coaster, right, so he's been

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<v Speaker 1>on this incredible roller coaster. So he just tries to

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<v Speaker 1>stay kind of even, not too high, not too low,

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<v Speaker 1>no expectations. He's just like, I didn't think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>happen anyway. But I'm laying up staring at the selling

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<v Speaker 1>all night man three o'clock at Moore, I'm like, jeez,

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<v Speaker 1>please don't let this thing just go left. He worked

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<v Speaker 1>so hard. I can't imagine it just going left. What

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<v Speaker 1>Desmond does and he's always done this every since he

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<v Speaker 1>was little. He tries to to protect his heart. He'll say,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. I don't it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we were constantly no, Desmond, it's okay. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like he didn't want to have feelings because now if

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<v Speaker 1>I have, if I show some type of feelings, now

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<v Speaker 1>I have my feeling as will be affected by either

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<v Speaker 1>hurt or mad or sad, And now I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to have those feelings, So let me just try to

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<v Speaker 1>block it out like it doesn't exist. Of course, his

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<v Speaker 1>feelings do exist, and he does care deeply. He just

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<v Speaker 1>tries to hide it all. Only now that it's Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>May one and Day three of the NFL Draft is

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<v Speaker 1>about to begin, his friends and family do wonder will

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<v Speaker 1>he be able to maintain this stoic demeanor throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>final day of the draft. So Saturday, we're like, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we got over there, it started at no

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<v Speaker 1>So Desmond leaves to go pick up some friends at

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel. We're there, We're like, where is the dement

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<v Speaker 1>needs to her and kid here does elaborates on how

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<v Speaker 1>the morning got messed up and at that point the

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<v Speaker 1>draft started I think at twelve on that Saturday, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to pick up because a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>my friends were at a nearby hotel, probably ten minutes away,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was picking up three of my friends from

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<v Speaker 1>the hotel, and I was about to run out of gas,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, one of the gas pumps said that

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<v Speaker 1>the car didn't work. Obviously my car is working, so

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<v Speaker 1>I had to go to another one. We had to

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<v Speaker 1>stop like two different times to get gas. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is we're we're starting to run a little late now

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just a whole ordeal. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my friends are in the car with me and my

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<v Speaker 1>phone start drink game A hello, yeah, yes, sir, anybody

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<v Speaker 1>John Robin the younger, we're doing well, of coach, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing? I'm doing that manding congratulation were about

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<v Speaker 1>to make you. I appreciate it so much. Course, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much, coach. I don't think I don't you

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<v Speaker 1>go to your question. Yes, sir, of course I appreciated

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Coach, Thank you so much. And I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let you talk to our great and you know what

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<v Speaker 1>kind of Dez Fitzpatrick may have just become the first

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<v Speaker 1>person in NFL history to be drafted while driving a car.

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<v Speaker 1>So as Daz tries to focus on the road, his

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<v Speaker 1>new head coach, Mike Rabel, gets on the call, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing, coach? I'm a great banking granulate.

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<v Speaker 1>I work and John and I don't want to want

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<v Speaker 1>up and got you. I want to you and branding coach.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it so much. Coach. You know I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do everything in my part of work car and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that's a really great decision. I know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you are man, I know you all love what you're about. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I worked hard to work pretty okay, but where a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people reaching indeed, and I'll be texting here.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course. I appreciate it again, a coach, So thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. The Titans general manager gets back on

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<v Speaker 1>the call. Go celebrate what you say. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>we should. We finished the draft last night, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>look at your cars. Don't ever forget a point a

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<v Speaker 1>way to get up to get that, um, coach, great

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<v Speaker 1>about your work. Okay, that's what we're about here, Okay, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna live up to that. Okay, wait to being

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<v Speaker 1>Because those were desert friends screaming as they got out

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<v Speaker 1>of the car in front of his dad's house. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>DEAs trying to make sense of being drafted by the

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee Titans in the fourth round while driving to his

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<v Speaker 1>own draft party. When I hung up the phone before

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<v Speaker 1>I pulled up to my house, I was thinking, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what picked they're on on the TV,

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<v Speaker 1>so I have to make it home fast. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was going like seventy down the street trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>it home fast everything because I'm trying to think. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody in the house knows, Like the other thirty people

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<v Speaker 1>in the house don't know anything yet. His parents and

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<v Speaker 1>all his other friends and family inside have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>any of this has happened. So now Dez opens the

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<v Speaker 1>door and enters his draft party with the biggest secret possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody on our technology somebody, they asked him, He said

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<v Speaker 1>the same. That's dess Dad Greg in the background talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how one of DES's former coaches might be getting

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<v Speaker 1>some inside information about when and where Daz will be drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how will Oh, he said. He said, that's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when I get the call already, don't know. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saw coach I love I know, he just he just coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Ruce just said that's the word. I'm just selling.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't mess me mind for that. Greg received a text

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<v Speaker 1>message from the former coach that claims Dez is about

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<v Speaker 1>to be drafted soon. So Des counters that he would

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten a call from a team by now if

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<v Speaker 1>that were true, so the rumor can't be real. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>standing guard there towards from one, the pick is announced

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone in the litterm He leaps up off the

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<v Speaker 1>couches in shock, everyone except Das and his friends who

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<v Speaker 1>were in the car earlier. Of course, here are Daz

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<v Speaker 1>and his parents on that moment. My dad said, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a great poker face, like he didn't know at

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<v Speaker 1>all this was coming up, and you know, they said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the pick is in and with the one

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<v Speaker 1>on ninth picks, you know, the Tennessee Titans select does

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<v Speaker 1>fit Patrick? And everybody was like, oh my sides going crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>started screaming, jumping up and down, and they're like, did

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<v Speaker 1>ain't here to call you? And I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they called me like ten minutes ago. I'm thinking, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it can't be the Titans because he was gotten a

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<v Speaker 1>call by now and they're on the clock and they

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<v Speaker 1>only got you know, a few minutes, and the next

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<v Speaker 1>thing you know, they picked Das and the whole house

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<v Speaker 1>just erbs. There's tears everywhere. We just all jumped up,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the family and friends at the time, still

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<v Speaker 1>not knowing that Desmond and his friends already knew, but

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<v Speaker 1>we all jumped up and we just tears just started

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<v Speaker 1>just flowing. We're all just started hugging. We're all just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of boll Garden just pounced on Desmond and just

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<v Speaker 1>giving a home hugs and kisses and crying at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time all of us, and it was just there

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a dry eye in the room. It was just awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just awesome. That was a moment I won't

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<v Speaker 1>ever forget. We'll be right back. Ye. Kellen Mond and

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<v Speaker 1>Desmond Fitzpatrick are officially professional football players. They were drafted

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<v Speaker 1>in the third and fourth rounds by the Minnesota Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>and the Tennessee Titans. That leaves us with our final

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<v Speaker 1>two players and this season of drafting linebacker Hammaka Rashid Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>And cornerback Cameron by Him, who was currently on his

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<v Speaker 1>way to a cabin in Big Bear, California, so for

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<v Speaker 1>the draft, will be in Big Bear, California. We rent

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<v Speaker 1>a cabin right off the late. This is cam by

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<v Speaker 1>him had a lot of family from the Bay Area

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<v Speaker 1>in southern California, family and then a bunch of my teammates.

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<v Speaker 1>Cam is a Southern California native. So he and his

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<v Speaker 1>family arrived at the rented lake house in just under

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<v Speaker 1>two hours and the party starts almost immediately. So we

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<v Speaker 1>just got to the cabin. We're unloading everything and now

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<v Speaker 1>now we're star stuck. Is this place, this cabin matsion

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy? My mic alright, So I'm in here with

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<v Speaker 1>my all my city wings off, five of whom we

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<v Speaker 1>have a noisy house here, three dogs, five kids, two parents.

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<v Speaker 1>My aunt is over. This is where Cameron's come here, Kay.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like des Kellen Davante and most other players in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft, making it to the NFL has been a

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<v Speaker 1>lifelong dream for Cam. The differences is that his dream

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<v Speaker 1>always seemed more like a fantasy than a real possibility,

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<v Speaker 1>even since I was a kid. Obviously a super cliche

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<v Speaker 1>when people talk about Yeah, people ask me what I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do. I said NFL, and they said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have a backup plan. That's the story for

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<v Speaker 1>all of us. But now it's it's it's way sweeter

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that at a point I wasn't super good at football.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what makes Cam's journey especially unique. For most of

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<v Speaker 1>his childhood and even as a young adult, he was

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<v Speaker 1>actually pretty bad at football. Here's his trainer, coach Anthony Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>describing the first time he saw Cam play. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a sophomore going in towards junior season. Where was at

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<v Speaker 1>one of our tournaments and he had a very very

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<v Speaker 1>bad day that day. I want to say he gave

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<v Speaker 1>about five touchdowns that day. Yeah, it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a long day for the kid. Cam was getting beat

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<v Speaker 1>on the field for a number of reasons. He hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>been taught the technique needed to play his position. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a dad like Greg Fitzpatrick drilling him on

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<v Speaker 1>the finer points of play and receiver when he was

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<v Speaker 1>a little kid. And that's normal because most dads aren't

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<v Speaker 1>able to teach their nine year olds what they learned

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<v Speaker 1>from practicing with Jerry Rice. However, there was another reason

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<v Speaker 1>Cam kept getting beat over and over again for touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>All the other players were a lot bigger than him.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's coach Brown on what he saw that day. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been doing this for years you know, Decenci backs

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<v Speaker 1>are looking like they're about six ft, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>ninety So I had this kid going into his junior

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<v Speaker 1>season at Corona Centennial, like, well, how are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to get the job done? Cam was going into his

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<v Speaker 1>junior year at Corona Centennial High School and he still

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't hit a Grosberg or learned the finer points of

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<v Speaker 1>playing cornerback. It was at that moment his childhood dream

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<v Speaker 1>of becoming an NFL player looked utterly impossible. But growth

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<v Speaker 1>often comes from life's toughest struggles and failures, and that

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<v Speaker 1>day where Cam gave up touchdown after touchdown changed everything

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<v Speaker 1>for him. Now, as he waits for the NFL Draft

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<v Speaker 1>to begin, Cam talks about this exact moment with some

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<v Speaker 1>friends and family. Would you say, what's my what was

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<v Speaker 1>my well? Yeah, what was your the turning point here?

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<v Speaker 1>Where would like made you realize you were soft? And

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<v Speaker 1>now my catchup moment was I was already on ground zero.

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<v Speaker 1>Did a couple of tournaments, I was, I was surviving.

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<v Speaker 1>I just at the surviving always worked, but that training

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<v Speaker 1>was and it was just busy where just getting tired,

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<v Speaker 1>getting the shape and not doing actual DV ware. Cam

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<v Speaker 1>was lifting weights and running, but no one was coaching

0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.560
<v Speaker 1>him on the details of how to play defensive back.

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<v Speaker 1>So once one tournament, may ten remember stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that stuff may ten Long Beach City College Tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>Gridiron tournament. I'm gonna hear getting I'm getting popped for

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<v Speaker 1>six at least three touchdowns a game and Brown will

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<v Speaker 1>not take me out the game. And then I was

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<v Speaker 1>just looking at him like you know that look you

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<v Speaker 1>just like I can't do anything about this. Coach. They

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<v Speaker 1>take me deep every play. Brown is coach Anthony Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>who we heard from a minute ago. He was coaching

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<v Speaker 1>Cam's team in that weekend tournament, and despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Cam was getting beat deep over and over, Coach

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<v Speaker 1>Brown wouldn't take him out of the game. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>looking at him. He would not take me out, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, no, you're gonna You're gonna figure this out.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I don't even want to look at him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's calling me chicken. He's just calling me, like, just

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<v Speaker 1>breaking me down mentally, and he was like, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to see you this week. Monday, five am, Vanola Park

0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:25.720
<v Speaker 1>said that went up to Dad and Dad was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's there and I was sick in my head, but

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<v Speaker 1>I knew I needed it and I was like, dang,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta really work with this dude. So I went

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<v Speaker 1>and there was that was history, and yeah, Brown believed

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<v Speaker 1>in me. After that brutal weekend in the seven on

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<v Speaker 1>seven tournament, Cam signed up to train with coach Brown

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<v Speaker 1>every morning at five am. It was a commitment the

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<v Speaker 1>whole family would be making. Cam's father, Curtis, explains their decision.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you hear a lot of stories for parents

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<v Speaker 1>kind of drunk their kids and say we want you

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. This was always what he wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and not once where I remember we had to pull

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<v Speaker 1>him out of bed or force him to go. He

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to go. And those times where you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was working so much of the time to my wife

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of transporting back and forth and think

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but not wants to shiver. Tell me, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't want to go today. You know, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like training. This was all this was his dream,

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<v Speaker 1>This was all him. Cam loved football and was willing

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<v Speaker 1>to work incredibly hard, which made his struggles even more puzzling.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time he made it to a sophomore year.

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<v Speaker 1>He just hadn't improved as much as he should have.

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<v Speaker 1>Sophomore year of high school, I was trash of football

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<v Speaker 1>fifth training on JV. A lot of my friends obviously

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<v Speaker 1>once starting on varsity getting offers already. Most people that

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<v Speaker 1>are getting drafted, that's that's their story about when they're

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<v Speaker 1>in high school. They're always the guys since freshman year,

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<v Speaker 1>always the best one of the same. But for me,

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't the case. If you listen to season one

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<v Speaker 1>of Drafted, you might remember Ohio State star cornerback Jeff Okuda.

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<v Speaker 1>He plays the same position as Cam, and by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of his sophomore year in high school, he had

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<v Speaker 1>received dozens of scholarship offers from almost every top program

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<v Speaker 1>in the country. At that same point, Cam was backing

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<v Speaker 1>up the backup for the third stringer on the junior

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<v Speaker 1>varsity team. When I was twisting on JV, the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing I did was like, Okay, I need to I

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<v Speaker 1>need to work and get my way, get my way

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<v Speaker 1>out this whole. And so the best thing I did

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<v Speaker 1>was find a coach that really put the time into me,

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<v Speaker 1>really invested into my future, trying to teach me that

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<v Speaker 1>the real details of football, not just a coach out

0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.200
<v Speaker 1>there doing busy work. He's getting me tired of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You really taught me the game, just being becoming a technician.

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<v Speaker 1>Never was the most athletic, biggest, fastest, or strong, especially

0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:55.959
<v Speaker 1>back then I was tiny, like super undersized. But as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as I started learning the game, becoming the technician

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<v Speaker 1>and putting that time and knowing that I put more

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<v Speaker 1>time and and separate myself with the amount of work

0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I put it and I somehow get better than somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>So that that kept going throughout the whole year, my

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<v Speaker 1>whole career, even when I got to college, still doing

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<v Speaker 1>those crazy hours, still putting in an extra hours more

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<v Speaker 1>than anybody went a whole year without missing a dave

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<v Speaker 1>doing extra work. So that's that's really been the whole

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<v Speaker 1>story of my entire career, just putting the extra work.

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<v Speaker 1>Know that, Okay, I might be behind some things, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm setting for myself with the details and just how

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<v Speaker 1>much extra work is cam talking about throughout the week?

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<v Speaker 1>It was before school go there, We're start workout starts

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<v Speaker 1>at five so because we had to start school it

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<v Speaker 1>was seven thirty back then, so we have to do

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<v Speaker 1>that right before school. Obviously, I've practice lifting during school

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<v Speaker 1>at the right after school, another practice on the field

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<v Speaker 1>at the high school, then right back at five o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>we're back with the facility doing our speed work, doing

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<v Speaker 1>our lifting, and one more GB workout. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>at least fourteen hours a day just from the time

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<v Speaker 1>you wake up at five am and I'm not getting

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<v Speaker 1>home until seven at night. After my last workout, then

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do homework and then right back and

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<v Speaker 1>now that was basically my whole routine. Even with Cam

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<v Speaker 1>working fourteen hours a day on football, Coach Brown knew

0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:30.920
<v Speaker 1>the daunting odds that they faced. Basically, I'm scratching my

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<v Speaker 1>head like wild. We mentioned NFL, but at the time

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<v Speaker 1>we're just mentioned and trying to just get him on

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<v Speaker 1>track to be a football player, you know, because he

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<v Speaker 1>had the ambition, he had the motivation, he had the

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<v Speaker 1>heart in the work ethic, but looking at him, the

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<v Speaker 1>skills set by eyes wasn't there and everything else. So

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<v Speaker 1>the first few sessions would count it was two left feet,

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<v Speaker 1>two left feet, you know, he couldn't do the drills.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really a no rhythm at all. And the

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<v Speaker 1>daughters in the car watching us and asked, I'm finishing

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<v Speaker 1>up the session with you, so we're getting the car

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<v Speaker 1>and she's first things that my daughter in mouth was

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<v Speaker 1>like that, why are you training this kid camp? You know, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not a football player. I have to tell my daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, baby, as long as he keeps showing up

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<v Speaker 1>to his training sessions, we're gonna keep showing him to

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<v Speaker 1>the training session. When you get a kid that believes

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<v Speaker 1>in itself, I couldn't tell the kid no. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be that that guy saying kid, football, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not your sport. So as he showed up, I showed up.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back. Coach Brown needed to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>how to turn his sophomore cornerback giving up multiple touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>a game into a high school starter, and he needed

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:12.600
<v Speaker 1>to build a foundation where Cam could continue to grow

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<v Speaker 1>into a college player and maybe even one day into

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<v Speaker 1>an NFL defensive back. But the million dollar question was

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<v Speaker 1>how So One of the things was we never had

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<v Speaker 1>a football. I never trying to account with a football.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's one of these things. As the parents, you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking like, Okay, who is this man and what is

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<v Speaker 1>he really doing? Because none of the things where we're

0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:38.359
<v Speaker 1>doing look like it was football related. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>started from the ground up, so we had to actually

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<v Speaker 1>built the coordination, I placement, you know, built the Rivermnis

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<v Speaker 1>feed and things like that. You know, the big total

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<v Speaker 1>power inside arts so he can move with you know, consistently,

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<v Speaker 1>would have would have smoved rhythm. Scouts often say the

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<v Speaker 1>best cornerbacks never look out of control or out of position.

0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.960
<v Speaker 1>They described them as smooth and fluid. They can turn

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<v Speaker 1>and run with receivers without losing any speed. They always

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<v Speaker 1>know where the ball is. They anticipate where the receiver's going.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the kind of work Cam and Coach Brown put

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<v Speaker 1>in morning after morning, week after week, without ever touching

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<v Speaker 1>a football. It was reminiscent of Daniel LaRusso learning karate

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<v Speaker 1>by waxing Mr Mayagi's car and painting his fence over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again instead of sparring with the kids in

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<v Speaker 1>Cobra Kai and like the karate kid, Cam and his

0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 1>parents couldn't help but question the process at times, But

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<v Speaker 1>as the weeks went by, Cam's parents began to know

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<v Speaker 1>it's a difference in their son. Over time, you saw

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<v Speaker 1>the progression he was making, like he was getting better.

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<v Speaker 1>So now I was like, Okay, let's continue to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>That hard work and that discipline no matter whether it's

0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 1>pro football or anything in life, that translates everywhere, and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone respects hard work. Whatever Coach Brown sawing Cam over

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:08.200
<v Speaker 1>those weeks, whatever progress he made or bond they built,

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:11.160
<v Speaker 1>he also felt that he couldn't let the young cornerback down.

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:17.959
<v Speaker 1>I've been in coaching twenty five years plus, started at

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<v Speaker 1>To You Love with Dead High School, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was morrisover, resident of intervention, loving the kids. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been officer for twenty years, so my background is serving

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<v Speaker 1>the people who need to be served. Coach Brown is

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<v Speaker 1>also a veteran police officer in southern California in addition

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<v Speaker 1>to working as a football coach and trainer. I understood

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<v Speaker 1>that camp came first, So it wasn't about me playing

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. It wasn't about my college career, it

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:53.159
<v Speaker 1>wasn't about my high school career. It was about putting

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<v Speaker 1>everything I could put into this kid to where he

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<v Speaker 1>can have what I didn't have. And even though Cam

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<v Speaker 1>still hadn't started game for the varsity team at his

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<v Speaker 1>high school, he was already working towards his next goal,

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<v Speaker 1>getting an offer to play in college. Cam and his

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<v Speaker 1>parents explained, I've always wanted to go to Bury and

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<v Speaker 1>my families out there, so Stanford and Cal as my

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<v Speaker 1>two main ones. UM. Stanford was my dream school. We

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<v Speaker 1>went up to their junior days and this was before

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<v Speaker 1>they even weren't even thinking about Cam. We would just

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<v Speaker 1>go to their junior days. That's Cam's mom, Jennifer. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to get their name out there, filling out

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the little questionnaire things UM before they actually acknowledged them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty. And every coach of DM sit up the

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<v Speaker 1>Gratus district, like, what's up, coach? Is everything I can

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<v Speaker 1>do to gradars? Yeah, sitting my links, sending workout videos,

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>sending me We made a seven on seven highlights tape

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<v Speaker 1>just for something because I was like, I need a

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 1>need to get see an episode two. We heard about

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>how Alabama coach Nick Saban flew to Pensacola, Florida, and

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:12.880
<v Speaker 1>personally showed up at Alex Leatherwood's high school to recruit him. Sometimes,

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 1>entire teams of coaches will make recruiting trips to convince

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 1>a player to come to their school. By the time

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Cam's junior year started, he was the one recruiting college

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 1>coaches instead of the other way around. He would text

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<v Speaker 1>and email them, sending highlights from seven on seven tournaments

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:34.360
<v Speaker 1>since he didn't have high school game footage yet. Once

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I started training in that offseason after my sophomore season,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when I started. I went in up going to

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<v Speaker 1>the camps, and I got an offer from cow Poly

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Slow out of camp just because I bought out with

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<v Speaker 1>that in the varsity tape. So that that's when I

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>started reaching out. Okay, I can I can go to

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:52.520
<v Speaker 1>camps and I can do well. I'm now, and I

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>can have something to vouch for me with some film

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>from a camp or something. So that's when I started

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>doing out those questionnaires. Hid him. Coaches, Uh say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just got my first offer, checked me out, blah

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:07.679
<v Speaker 1>blah blah, all that stuff. Just in every single coaches

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>d M sending emails begging players for coaching numbers. Cam

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>would ask other players at camps for the coach of

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 1>cell phone numbers, and then with text and cold call

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.360
<v Speaker 1>the coaches, he tell them all about his offer from

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<v Speaker 1>cal Polly, using it as a part of his pitch

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<v Speaker 1>on why they should consider him. Here are his parents,

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<v Speaker 1>Curis and Jennifer. Once again, he was very proactive in

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<v Speaker 1>reaching out coaches and then I kept a business card.

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<v Speaker 1>We had spring showcases, and I always made it a

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<v Speaker 1>point to work at the table where the coaches have

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<v Speaker 1>to see me first, and then I would you know,

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<v Speaker 1>network with them, tell him my sin is on the side,

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<v Speaker 1>and get a business card. His mom was running an

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<v Speaker 1>equally aggressive recruiting campaign, and then that helped. I just

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<v Speaker 1>found that note. But it was a binder that I

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<v Speaker 1>created and had it all organized, put all their business

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<v Speaker 1>cards and had a little harpe who we reached out to.

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<v Speaker 1>When Cam like messaged, um, what was the correspondence, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what was the feedback? And he just always make sure

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<v Speaker 1>he followed up and reaching out to all those coaches. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she was sent at the transcript table with if they

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<v Speaker 1>they're interested in in a player, they got to go

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<v Speaker 1>ask for the transcripts. So of course she would work

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<v Speaker 1>at that table. But oh yeah, it take this. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of my transcripts in there. Just doing the

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<v Speaker 1>ex that's just extra. With the coaches, they would always say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>can I have a player between three point five g

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<v Speaker 1>P at a four point up? Yeah, I would, I

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<v Speaker 1>would slide his, and then the g p A really

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<v Speaker 1>made a huge difference to It was probably annoying to them,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the end of at the end of my

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<v Speaker 1>junior season, that's when they started coming around, and they

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<v Speaker 1>ended up coming to one of my playoff games at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of that year. So all that reaching out

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<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff helped, especially once I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to start my junior season. Cam's college pursuit turned into

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<v Speaker 1>the family business. He would recruit coaches while his mom

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<v Speaker 1>worked the relationship management angle, and almost all of this

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<v Speaker 1>took place before he ever started a game for the

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<v Speaker 1>high school varsity team. Then Cam's the next step was

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<v Speaker 1>a social media marketing campaign. When I was going through

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<v Speaker 1>the process, talking to Stanford a lot more than I

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<v Speaker 1>was cal put all my eggs in that basket your Stanford.

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<v Speaker 1>So added my two eight classes I needed, and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do everything just to be able to get into school.

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<v Speaker 1>So one day my recruitment was picking up. One day

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<v Speaker 1>I took a visit up to Stanford. I posted on

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<v Speaker 1>social media and as soon as soon as I posted,

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<v Speaker 1>cow coach cause and said, Okay, we're gonna offer you,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, Wow, and it's crazy how that works.

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<v Speaker 1>I post posted I'm up at Stanford, and now you

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<v Speaker 1>guys want to talk, so we started. I started talking

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<v Speaker 1>to both of them and still ended up taking the

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<v Speaker 1>st A T twice trying to get into Stanford because

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<v Speaker 1>I have to actually get in as a regular student,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you needed a certain amoun out and every

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<v Speaker 1>section of your s A T. And I took it twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't able to get it on one section. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, from Calf, I was super glad.

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<v Speaker 1>I did it, cald best best decision I've ever made.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Brown watched as Cam used a cal Polly offer

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<v Speaker 1>to leverage Stanford to then get cal Berkeley interested. You

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<v Speaker 1>get a Kyle Polly offer, you know you better than that.

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<v Speaker 1>The writers are are writing about you, So what do

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do? He did to refer psychology. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he created his own recruiting bus between the schools that

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<v Speaker 1>he thought was going to be attractive to him to

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<v Speaker 1>actually go to. He used social media to wake up

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<v Speaker 1>Cayl Berkeley to come over and take a good look

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<v Speaker 1>at him. And when he's seen it, look they bid

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<v Speaker 1>on it. They did on it, and it worked. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a genius move on his part. His parents

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<v Speaker 1>were equally impressed with just how enterprising and zealous their

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<v Speaker 1>son was at every step in his journey. Looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a story you can tell later, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>years down the road to other people, like look what

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<v Speaker 1>I did. Look at my struggle now, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean in the NFL. And you know he's like he said,

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<v Speaker 1>he started off a fifth string JV player and the

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<v Speaker 1>journey has just been great. So to me, it was

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<v Speaker 1>all word. It all paid off, and it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it taught him a lesson to like networking

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<v Speaker 1>at an early age. You know, you know what, young

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<v Speaker 1>kids don't like to do that these days. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>now you need to follow up, follow through network. Whenever

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<v Speaker 1>you meet someone, shake their hand to build a connection

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<v Speaker 1>and build that network. And by him dm ng all

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<v Speaker 1>these coaches and just reaching out and you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get exposed. All that networking training, practice and

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<v Speaker 1>hard work transformed Kim from fifth string JV to first

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<v Speaker 1>team all packed twelve, he became the team captain at

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<v Speaker 1>kel Berkeley and now he's sitting in a huge lake

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<v Speaker 1>house with his friends and family watching NFL draft, waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for his future coaches to finally call him. This time around,

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<v Speaker 1>here's coach Brown once again. He wasn't a five star,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't how to recruited, he didn't have multiple offers.

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<v Speaker 1>So now guess what it does. It brings streams back

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<v Speaker 1>to the normal kid that it's being looked over. Because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you look at college, when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the NFL, there's always the University of is So

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<v Speaker 1>kids ought to make these as something that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to take this one particular route to get there. But

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<v Speaker 1>it is a street called count Bindo that you can

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<v Speaker 1>take and you can end up there also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there's a lot of kids an understanding

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<v Speaker 1>it's a street with their name on it, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the blessing of it all that sitting back

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<v Speaker 1>that hey, this morning, one street to get to the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Next I'm drafted. Now that it's like literally less than

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<v Speaker 1>a day away, it's kind of starting to get surreal.

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<v Speaker 1>I finally starting to get real for me to buckle

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<v Speaker 1>down and get straight a's to qualified. And he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you do it. I'm training my butt off home,

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<v Speaker 1>working out with two coaches, going to two places just

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<v Speaker 1>to be stayed. It was a trying time for all

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<v Speaker 1>of us. We had just went through a family breakup,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, he would just had to be strong.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, you just popped for COVID, You're just positive.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like what, He's like, Yeah, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to go home right now, like right now and walking

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<v Speaker 1>home and didn't leave my house since then for fourteen days.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just had to keep encouraging him and until

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