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Speaker 1: Adam Claplin joins us now from the NFL and Eagles

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Speaker 1: insider for Sirius XM and Fox Sports Radio. You can

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Speaker 1: also hear him on the Inside the Birds podcast. The

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Speaker 1: great guest to have on today because obviously with the

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Speaker 1: head coach hire of Shane Steiken, let's go over his

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Speaker 1: what you think of him personally as a coordinator and

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Speaker 1: a coach. How much input did he have on the

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Speaker 1: development and obvious success of Jalen Hurts. Yeah, So, guys,

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Speaker 1: here's what happened with Shane Steakin. So let's just take

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Speaker 1: the lineage here. So surprisingly, Brandon Staley, the head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Chargers when he took over in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: decided he did not want to keep Shane Steak in

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Speaker 1: and so Nick Serannie hires him. Shane and Nick are

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Speaker 1: very close. They worked together for years with the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: and midway through the twenty one season, Steiken took over

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Speaker 1: the play calling. Nick candid over. They got to a

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Speaker 1: slow star. I think they might have been two and

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Speaker 1: great job. He really did, because look, I think Nick,

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Speaker 1: as a rookie head coach, had figured out what was

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Speaker 1: going on on both sides of the football, and he

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Speaker 1: did a great job of handing the job the play

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Speaker 1: calling over. We know that snake and said he's going

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Speaker 1: to take over the play calling in the beginning and

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Speaker 1: we'll see if he keeps it. But I thought Shane

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Speaker 1: really showed a lot of leadership. I know, talking with

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Speaker 1: people from the Eagles, I think he's really smart. One

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Speaker 1: of the teams that spoke to him said he had

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Speaker 1: in terms of the interview process, said he's got great

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Speaker 1: energy and passion for the job. I like this opening

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Speaker 1: press conference. He showed some humility and some humanists. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was great. But in the end, guys, you

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Speaker 1: never know about a head coach until you have adversity.

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Speaker 1: So we're not going to really know how good of

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Speaker 1: a coach he is until he has some He saw

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Speaker 1: how great of a job Frank Wright did over the

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Speaker 1: first three years in terms of dealing with get off

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Speaker 1: to bad starts to getting things turn around. That's really

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Speaker 1: the mark of a good head coach, of of when

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Speaker 1: he could turn things around when things were not good.

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Speaker 1: They Adam is Styke in the type of a coach

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Speaker 1: at Tinkers with plays that work. I mean to add

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Speaker 1: different dimensions. Allah, Andy Reid, are we going to see

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Speaker 1: a similar offense with the Colts here that we saw

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Speaker 1: in the last couple of years with Billy. Well, here's

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Speaker 1: what I will say. And I know Nick, I know

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Speaker 1: that Sirianni and Stiken knew this when they came to Philly.

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Speaker 1: They have this belief. As you brought up, Any Reid,

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Speaker 1: this is brought in from my friend Joe Banner. It

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Speaker 1: seems very simple, but Joe explained to me when we

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Speaker 1: work at ESPN together, if you go back to the sixties,

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Speaker 1: teams have thrown more in the first half over time,

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Speaker 1: we'll win majority of their games. That's just the way

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Speaker 1: it is. And ironically, what a change I can say.

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Speaker 1: We're going to throw to score. That means early run

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Speaker 1: to win late, you have to get a lead. And

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Speaker 1: that's where Jonathan Taylor comes in now. As he also

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Speaker 1: said in his press conference, there exceptions for everything. The

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Speaker 1: Leagles set a team record against Green Bay. I don't

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Speaker 1: have the numbers in front of me. They just got

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Speaker 1: off to this crazy start in green Bay. Des side.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to tackle anyone around three hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy yards, which is ridiculous, But that's really not what

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Speaker 1: the Eagles wanted to come in the game. It just

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Speaker 1: the it was. It worked, so coaches will tell you

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Speaker 1: when you ask why do you do it? Well, we

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Speaker 1: stuck with it, Andy Read in the Super Bowl. There

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Speaker 1: wasn't their plan to run the football as much as

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Speaker 1: they did, but they couldn't throw the ball downfield, so

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Speaker 1: they look to do something else. They round the football.

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Speaker 1: Adam kaplan is our guest, and the Eagles have as

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you see that team every single

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Speaker 1: week during the regular season, Adam. They have a ton

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Speaker 1: of weapons on their offense, six Pro bowlers on that

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Speaker 1: their center, their star quarterback. How much of the Eagles

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Speaker 1: success on offense should be attributed to Stike and as

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Speaker 1: the maestro, the guy calling the plays very big. In fact,

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Speaker 1: what you're going to see I'm pretty certain of this,

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Speaker 1: just based on the play calling and knowing kind of

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Speaker 1: what we call shot plays downfield throws to Michael Pippen

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Speaker 1: don't know if they're going to bring him back, and

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Speaker 1: more of an intermediate receiver they need. They need be

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Speaker 1: gonna see a downfield passing game. You might, you know,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't really point to the Eagles with

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Speaker 1: this because their backs didn't really catch the ball that much,

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Speaker 1: although Cannon Gamewell did. John and Taylor will definitely catch

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Speaker 1: the ball this offense. You's just a better pass catcher

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Speaker 1: than the Eagles backs. But in the end, this is

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Speaker 1: going to be more of a passing offense with the

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Speaker 1: and taryor they won't. In fact, as they pointed out,

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Speaker 1: there will be sometimes where they run the ball a

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Speaker 1: lot more than you expected, just because the game presented itself.

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Speaker 1: That's what coaches will tell you. That wasn't necessarily the

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Speaker 1: way they wanted to do it, but it works so well.

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Speaker 1: On the team had a light bots and they ran

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Speaker 1: in the football. That's called good coaching. That's it's what

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Speaker 1: you do to adjust. But and they are things. Obviously

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Speaker 1: they have to the Cults have to dress their offensive line.

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Speaker 1: They have some issues. They have to take care of

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Speaker 1: good offensive lamp, but not great. So that also play

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Speaker 1: into it about game flowing and so forth. Adam, what

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Speaker 1: kinds of subtle changes did you see in the Eagles

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Speaker 1: offense the last two years as Styken continue to adapt

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Speaker 1: the offense to Jalen Hurts and his strings, How did

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Speaker 1: you see the play calling and just the overall scheme

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Speaker 1: continued to evolve and adapt. Well, they had to change

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Speaker 1: it completely because this is not what they plan. In fact,

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Speaker 1: when this staff took over, they were under the impression

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Speaker 1: that Carson Wentz would be the quarterback. Now Wentz wanted out.

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Speaker 1: Weeks later, the Eagles felt that they couldn't go forward

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Speaker 1: And Wentz as he don't, went to Indian Unfortunately that

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Speaker 1: passed in the Super Bowl, so that in fact, I

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Speaker 1: remember Sirianni he had not really coached a running quarterback before,

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Speaker 1: did a phenomenal job of adjusting to the good Coaching

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Speaker 1: It's what your quarterback can do. That's called coaching. And

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Speaker 1: he wants to keep Babba ventronis terriffic as a special

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Speaker 1: to his aggressiveness. He's a very aggressive play caller, and

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Speaker 1: I like that he said some stuff he does on gut,

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Speaker 1: not only by the sheet, because you have to go

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Speaker 1: buy gameflow. You can talk about analytics all you want

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Speaker 1: and by trade. I'm more untentily to most people, but

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Speaker 1: football is not baseball. You have to go buy gameflow

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Speaker 1: and what's going on. And that's I mentioned that Green

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Speaker 1: Bay game when they ran all over the Packers. That's

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Speaker 1: not really what they want to do every game. They

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Speaker 1: didn't really have the backs to do it. But don't

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Speaker 1: also forget folks, this is not a shot. The Colts.

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Speaker 1: talking to Adam Kaplan NFL and Eagles Insider Serious XM

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Speaker 1: Inside the Birds Podcast. Did you foresee this success this year?

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Speaker 1: I know Stuke Can had a big part in net

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Speaker 1: with the offense, but Siriani year two? But was it

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Speaker 1: when they when you guys acquired A J. Brown? Was

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Speaker 1: Because I personally didn't see him getting the double digit

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Speaker 1: I do win ranges for every team. I twelve to

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Speaker 1: fourteen wins for this team. Why because the roster is

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Speaker 1: the best of the National Football League. That proved to

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Speaker 1: be correct. Look, it's not that it's ever easy, but

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Speaker 1: You talk about the differences well, they added him no

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Speaker 1: He's got to add talent. They've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: tight ends, but no one who can dominate the football.

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Speaker 1: They need to help the receiver group out. Pipvanis to

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Speaker 1: So this is where the relationship between the head coach

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Speaker 1: They did, you know, I guess the owner did mention

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Speaker 1: As of right now, how is Stiken in the relationship

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Speaker 1: with the young quarterback? Just in your eyes? You've seen

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Speaker 1: that's the thing with Bryce Young. And I know Balar

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Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. But what he's taught what

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Speaker 1: know exactly what Chris meant, but I know how some

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Speaker 1: and the CJ. Strout obviously is a guy that a

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Speaker 1: lot of people like we should go in the top

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Speaker 1: but we'll see what happens. The final thing from me,

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Speaker 1: Adam and I want to double back to something that

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Speaker 1: the identity of a Shane Steke in offense right where

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Speaker 1: you passed the score points and your run to win

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Speaker 1: primarily going to be a passing team. But you're not

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Speaker 1: going to forget all about Jonathan Taylor, and nor do we.

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Speaker 1: Banner came in and Jeffrey Laurie and I. But again,

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Speaker 1: way you win, not week the week. That's where you

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Speaker 1: win long term in the natural football league. That's Adam Kaplan,

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Speaker 1: NFL insider, also an Eagles insider too. You can hear

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Speaker 1: him on the Inside the Birds podcast covering the entire league.

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Speaker 1: Ad I'm appreciate your help. Can't wait to see what

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Speaker 1: Jane Styken brings to the table. Thanks for giving us

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Speaker 1: a little PEAKSI into what the future holds for these Colts.

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Speaker 1: Fans look forward to go to the training camp guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.