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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal and I am beyond lucky today to

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Speaker 2: be joined by Patrick Claybonn and Jordan Rodrigue of The

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Speaker 2: Athletic on our maiden voyage for this show here NFL

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Speaker 2: Daily in the Chris Westling podcast studio. So this offseason

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Speaker 2: has been a lot. I'm going to talk a little

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Speaker 2: bit first, guys before bringing in. It's got me thinking

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Speaker 2: what brings joy in life and in football, and we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about that with our segment coming up

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Speaker 2: in the show. But before before I do get to you, guys,

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Speaker 2: I do want to start by addressing the obvious that

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Speaker 2: this is not the Around the NFL podcast. That we

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Speaker 2: taped our last episode of Around the NFL on May

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Speaker 2: twenty third, and it was a total shock to all

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Speaker 2: of us and it's very difficult that that was the

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Speaker 2: last show that we're not going to do another.

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Speaker 1: And I know.

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Speaker 2: That's going to inspire a lot of emotions from our listeners,

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Speaker 2: from you guys, from anyone that that's worked on it.

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Speaker 2: For myself, of course, I get it like I've been

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Speaker 2: going through them two for really six six weeks now

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Speaker 2: since since we did that last So I still am.

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Speaker 1: We'll go through them together.

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Speaker 2: I love Dan and Mark and what we built together

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Speaker 2: with Chris was was beyond special. Keisha, Chris's wife, said

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Speaker 2: it perfectly on IG yesterday that we will always be

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Speaker 2: family and nothing can take away what we accomplished together.

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Speaker 2: I do just want to thank everyone, especially like the listeners,

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Speaker 2: but also everyone in this room. You two and that's

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Speaker 2: ever been in this room. You know who you are,

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Speaker 2: and who's in the control room back there, and who's

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Speaker 2: been in the control room over the years, whether it's

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Speaker 2: in Culver City or here, and the listeners too, because

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Speaker 2: y'all helped you change all of our lives. You know,

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Speaker 2: you you made something so special with us and you

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Speaker 2: felt like it was always us together. Uh, and you

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Speaker 2: stuck with us after Chris died, and we tried not

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Speaker 2: to ask for too much along the way, but I do.

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Speaker 2: I do want to ask for something now, and and

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Speaker 2: that's to support the hell out of Mark and Dan

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Speaker 2: and what they're gonna do next. And I love them,

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Speaker 2: I always will, and I want you to support this

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Speaker 2: show too, give it a chance, like give give both

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Speaker 2: shows some grace and and be cool NFL dailies.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna be the same show. It's not.

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Speaker 2: I it can't be, and I wouldn't want it to be.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be different. And we'll get into how you

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Speaker 2: know that's that's gonna be different. But it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: a great show too. Like I'm really excited. It's it's

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Speaker 2: as you would say, Jordan, like two things can be true.

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Speaker 2: You know, we can miss that and this is going

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Speaker 2: to be something we're going to be really proud of.

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Speaker 2: And I hope y'all that are listening are too. I'm

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Speaker 2: looking forward to working with so many people. Colleen's going

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Speaker 2: to be back on the show next week when she

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Speaker 2: Nick Shook on the show tomorrow. And uh, of course

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Speaker 2: you Jordan like welcoming you here. It's really exciting to

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Speaker 2: me and Patrick. There's no one I I love working

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Speaker 2: more with than y'all.

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Speaker 1: And that's it. I'll let you guys talk a little

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: No, I guess thank you from the standpoint of obviously

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Speaker 4: personally and you know I've said this to you, but

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Speaker 4: from the standpoint of a of a listener, right, because

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Speaker 4: like you get you get guests on a podcast, and

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Speaker 4: felt right and feel all the things that a lot

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Speaker 4: tangential attachment to what you guys built by just being

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Speaker 4: in your vicinity, like over on West Washington Boulevard all the.

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Speaker 3: Way to Overhear has just it's been something to experience.

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Speaker 4: And when I think about how much the show means

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Speaker 4: there's four people and four families who the show means

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Speaker 4: so much more to right. And of course, when you're

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Speaker 4: Chris Westling podcast studio right, what you guys built it

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Speaker 4: provides people with a level of openness and vulnerability and

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Speaker 4: much less surrounding the discussion of football right and so

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Speaker 4: doing that, it grew the game, and there's all these initiatives,

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Speaker 4: international right, how to accomplish these things. I can't think

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Speaker 4: you guys did, and you don't. You don't get that

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Speaker 4: so I love you guys, right, And as you said,

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Speaker 4: I hope that people are able to get two properties

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Speaker 3: But I just.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, what you guys did is incredible and should be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had at least say a little time since

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Speaker 2: the listeners know. This week it's just different and we're

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Speaker 2: going to get to the football of it all. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I do want to hear from you too, Jordan.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's that openness that you guys created

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Speaker 5: I've been listening this podcast to me that that you

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Speaker 5: guys created, that so many other people created, it got

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Speaker 5: And I don't think for a long time you guys

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Speaker 5: And I never got to tell him that, but I

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Speaker 5: And at the after we recorded that show, I had

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Speaker 2: So like beautiful and bittersweet and just life man. And

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Speaker 2: and we're going to get to what we're really looking

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Speaker 2: And it's been a lot this offseason. Thank you everyone

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Speaker 2: Like I find joy in this football thing.

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Speaker 2: And so we're gonna we're gonna celebrate it and try

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Speaker 2: So I hear you on the fourth down teams will

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Speaker 5: I will still be calling for certain coaches who typically

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Speaker 5: When you're seeing the analytics meet meet some of these

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Speaker 5: And even so he even he is who is like

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Speaker 3: Praise is Jordan's number one skills.

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Speaker 5: Spinning praise like love your love your shirt Patrick, By

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Speaker 5: You know, you don't often have time to build out

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Speaker 6: For practice, there is no time in the week.

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Speaker 5: It's not criticizing the coaches who don't do it, and

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Speaker 5: We're going to talk about it the kickoff, the new kickoff.

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Speaker 2: To basically everyone's just becoming more like Bill Belichick's been

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's the new kickoff. I did get to watch

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Speaker 6: It rules.

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Speaker 5: Really it's chaos, nobody knows what they're doing yet, but

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Speaker 5: for that, in my theory, is people need a clean

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Speaker 5: like a clean sheet, a clean practice, a safe practice

442
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 5: with some contact to practice the new kickoff in and

443
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 5: they don't want to show that tape across the league.

444
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 5: A couple of special teams coordinators we're around talking like

445
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 5: the first team that figures this out is going to

446
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 5: have such an advantage on different teams. And it brought

447
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 5: me a lot of joy watching it because it's it

448
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 5: just looks so will you get something so weird?

449
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 6: It's just but it was it.

450
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 2: This is what we always talk about on this show.

451
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 2: This is like if you went back and listened to

452
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: and I'll do this a few times. This is our

453
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 2: first show. This is what we used to talk about

454
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: on around the NFL, like first season, Like Wes and

455
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: I would always like talk about, like why doesn't the

456
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 2: NFL innovate more?

457
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: Why doesn't the NFL change more?

458
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 2: Like like and they do compared to other sports, like

459
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: their ability to change. I think I don't know it.

460
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: I'm very excited about this too.

461
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's chaos because the kickers, they compare it

462
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 5: to Like so if you're thinking about I guess golf clubs,

463
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 5: which I don't golf, but it is interesting to think

464
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 5: about they're switching different cleats out and trying to see, okay,

465
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 5: this like moldable to my foot soccer cleat on my

466
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 5: right foot, and then a regular football cleat on my

467
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,719
Speaker 5: left foot, and like that's the plant foot. And then

468
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 5: it's like, you know, using different clubs that are in

469
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 5: your bag to to have placement, to have precision, to

470
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 5: do different things for your return unit essentially. And then

471
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Speaker 5: on the other side, I mean, I just think you're

472
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 5: gonna see people try some wild stuff you're hearing buzziness about,

473
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 5: like outside linebackers returning puns.

474
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Speaker 2: I am a little worried there's gonna be there's so

475
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 2: much stock of like how crazy it is and are

476
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 2: they going to get there and checking out?

477
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, don't checking out.

478
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 5: This is my message to special teams coordinators across the nation.

479
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 5: Do do do do do do do like or not

480
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 5: checking out on this. I'm shaking my finger at you, Patrick,

481
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,479
Speaker 5: but don't. I'm I'm so I'm so hyped about this

482
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 5: because watching them practice and like, what what it could

483
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 5: possibly be, what it could turn into? And Bones Fossil

484
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 5: who used to coach for the Rams now it was

485
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 5: in Dallas, he was like the point, one of the

486
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 5: point people on this and hearing him in the little

487
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 5: back hallways of league meetings and before the votes and

488
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 5: explaining it to coaches, explaining it to owners not just

489
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 5: the safety element of it, but also leading to more scoring.

490
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 5: I mean, you've got an offensive trending league. If you

491
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 5: just say to you know, the coach there, half the

492
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 5: coaches in the league, like you could score more points

493
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 5: this way, then automatically, you know, they start to they

494
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 5: start to pivot toward that. But but the way that

495
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 5: teams can do it, you're you're running, it's almost like

496
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 5: you're running run game plays like you're running like you're

497
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 5: seeing counter, you're seeing duo. But in the kick return

498
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 5: stuff like it's it's really really interesting, I'm telling you,

499
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 5: And I think it also to your point earlier, I

500
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 5: do think it helps with the international presence too, because

501
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 5: you're gonna see people try stuff. You're gonna see oh

502
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 5: can this rugby player come do this for us? And

503
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 5: that's that's his role and he's like a call up

504
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 5: on the roster.

505
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Speaker 2: I can't wait for it. It will create a higher

506
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: scoring average. Now I'm thinking I wonder if that was

507
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 2: part of the pitch and why it did get through.

508
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: Not because it's necessarily going to be that effective. That's

509
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: really hard to predict exactly, but because the field position

510
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: is just going to be better because so many people

511
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: this is what I worry about, is just gonna take

512
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: the kickoff to the thirty that they're that they're going

513
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 2: to accept, you know, the touchback and everything, and that

514
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 2: field position is just going to be increased.

515
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: But then you're going to deal with that.

516
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 5: You have to cut off a tenth of your play sheet.

517
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 5: If you're an offensive minded coach and you're saying, okay,

518
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 5: we all accept l acquiesce to the third like you're

519
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 5: gonna cut. You're cutting off like a tenth or twelfth

520
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 5: of your play sheet at that point. So why you

521
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 5: know if you want, you want everything wide open for you, right,

522
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 5: and and all of that. But but I do think

523
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 5: like the reason why you're seeking to circle back, you're

524
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 5: seeing these joint practices get scheduled and against a wide

525
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 5: variety of people because you can't show that tape to

526
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 5: anyone else. You can get as close to live action

527
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 5: football as possible in a practice, so within the safety

528
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 5: guidelines and all of that, but still some contact and

529
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 5: you won't really know what any of this like. It

530
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 5: is why I compare it to the run game so

531
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 5: much like you don't actually know what any of this

532
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 5: is going to look like until you until you hit somebody,

533
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 5: until you have pads on and do it. But they

534
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 5: also don't want to do this. They don't want to

535
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 5: show what they've got, like offensive coaches defensive coaches. They

536
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 5: want to be super vanilla in the preseason because if

537
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 5: they happen to find, you know, that one thing, they

538
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 5: don't want thirty one other teams to see it.

539
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 6: It's like, okay, if it's two.

540
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 5: Non conference opponents who see it fine.

541
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Speaker 2: And it's kind of like it's like a lot of

542
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: things with the NFL, we won't really really know until

543
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: the season starts. But that makes me, that's what I love,

544
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: really excited about it. I do want to have Sam

545
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: Schwarztein on this show. He's been on it before. Actually

546
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: he works on the TNF Prime Video and he did

547
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: a recap with me last year. But he he helped

548
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 2: write this rule for the XFL. Because I don't want

549
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 2: to say too much about it, because I did spend

550
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 2: like I don't know if you'll find this sad or lonely.

551
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 2: I definitely like watched like thirty minutes of this one

552
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: night at like one in the morning when I couldn't sleep,

553
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 2: and it didn't help me. It didn't help me kind

554
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: of figure out how this is all gonna work. It's

555
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: very confusing to me, so I feel like I need

556
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: to see more.

557
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 4: Well, I think we're gonna see even when we do

558
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 4: finally see it, it's going there's gonna be meta trends. Yeah,

559
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: that that happened over the course of several weeks, and

560
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 4: they're gonna be tight lipped about it. And I'm sure

561
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 4: like reporters are gonna get scolded for video of a kickoff.

562
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 3: And when it's like, you know, it's like apartment building.

563
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 6: Into sending of a video.

564
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: No, I'm just dding, I don't I.

565
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: Don't want to including the special because you're talking about

566
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 4: kicking it out. I know a lot of time special

567
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 4: teams coaches get to be the sacrificial lamb, right, and

568
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 4: you're gonna have somebody give up a couple of touchdowns

569
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 4: and maybe and so like it's gonna be super safe

570
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 4: and you know, we don't know how it's gonna turn out, right,

571
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 4: That's the best.

572
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 5: Part, the wild car, the uncertainty, the thing. But that's

573
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 5: one of the cool things about this though, is like

574
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 5: I've never met a Special Teams coach who isn't like

575
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 5: kind of nuts in the best way.

576
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 6: So this is this, this is their moment.

577
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: Like kind of marginalized and that play was marginalized. And

578
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: anything that gets uh the excitement of what used to

579
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: be one of the most exciting plays, I'm all into it.

580
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: I'm look, I'm I'm for the uh you know, the

581
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: rule where you where you could choose to go for

582
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: it on fourth and fifth. I'm all for crazy rules.

583
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: I think the NF we need more of this moving forward.

584
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: We we've done two things now.

585
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: I love it.

586
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 6: We're waiting on your.

587
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna go simple because my I'm The reason

588
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: I mentioned that is because it's like, Okay, we're only

589
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: going to get through so many or the show is

590
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: going to be three hours and it maybe this seems boring,

591
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: but it's a simple and it's just true.

592
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 3: For me.

593
00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: It's CJ. It's c J Stroud and that's just like.

594
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: Like it's not just because my son Walker was the

595
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: only attendee of the Super Bowl last year and at

596
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: least that I saw that was wearing a CJ.

597
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: Stroud jersey.

598
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: That's like a little part of it, the joy that

599
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: it brings my son, because Yeah, like c J. Stroud

600
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: made my son. I think a Texans fan for life.

601
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: I think it's sticking and I think he's just gonna

602
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: be with this guy and this team. And I don't

603
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: know why that is, but for for me, because we're separate,

604
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: I'm here, he's there, and for me, it's like he's

605
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: got He's just got everything he wants. He's had a

606
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: great offseason. I've loved the Mark up the Michael Parsons. Yes,

607
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: I love the Mike Parsons and c J Stroud like

608
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: road Show, I love basically every appearance.

609
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: CJ.

610
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: Strouda said, So I like love him as a dude,

611
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't really care about that if I didn't

612
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: love watching him as a player. And like I start

613
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 2: with the quarterbacks that I tend to like with guys

614
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: that first like can just make beautiful throws and usually

615
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: like at least a starting point, like beautiful throws with

616
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: anticipation from the pocket.

617
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: And he reminds me of Philip Rivers in.

618
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: That way, like Herbert a little bit to what I

619
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: liked about Herbert when he first came out. How he

620
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: gets through the reads so quick, reminds me a little

621
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: bit of Geno in that way. And so that's like

622
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: the starting point. And then there's like what he can

623
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: do off script, which I think is underrated, and what

624
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: he can do intangibly as a leader that to me,

625
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: like he's just I hate the announce like I know

626
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: you hate this analysis Patrick when it's like he's got it,

627
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: But I think that is part of it for me,

628
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: and it all like it all comes together in this

629
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: package that I actually don't think people appreciated quite how

630
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: incredible he played last year, because I did go back

631
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: and watch him this offseason, and I think when you

632
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: watch him, you can make a strong case that he

633
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: was like a top seven or eight quarterback.

634
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: In the NFL, A very easy case, like as as

635
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: a rookie.

636
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: And since I've started doing this, I don't think there's

637
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: maybe anyone else I that you could say that about.

638
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: Like Luck was sniffing there but not there. RG three

639
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: was sniffing there but not there. Dak Dak was was there. Actually,

640
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: I think Dak's a good, good comparison. I think CJ.

641
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: Strodd showed even more about how Dak performed that you're like,

642
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: and I just think he'll be just knowing everything that

643
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: we know about him and knowing what's around him and

644
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: stuff on Diggs and all that stuff. Like I just

645
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: think the year, the growth from year one to year

646
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: two is just like, I can't freaking wait for this

647
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: to watch this dude play.

648
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 4: And I'm not even like tinging at the the he's

649
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 4: got it right because it in this instance right is

650
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 4: his natural ability as a football player, and also the

651
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 4: honesty that he approaches the game with and discussing the

652
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: game where you hear CJ's rout say something and of course,

653
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 4: you know, those of us who agree with him, we're like, hey,

654
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 4: he's a ballner. But like legitimately it provides a window

655
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 4: into oh well, yeah, if you go into the huddle

656
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 4: with this guy, of course you're gonna believe what he says.

657
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 3: And like the way that he discusses a playbreak. Now, like.

658
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 4: Of course people remember that viral interview with Cooper Cup

659
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: and Bridget Condon, right, and so like you get that

660
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 4: level of discussion, and it's like, yeah, that's what it is.

661
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 4: This guy is a person who I can who's one

662
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: of the most talented people on the planet, but I

663
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 4: can actually relate to him as a human being. And

664
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 4: oh yeah, he's a very good quarterback. And I think

665
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 4: that's that's what it is. And of course, like that's

666
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 4: exciting and I'm glad the Texans are good.

667
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, it's fun. That's such a fun team also

668
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 5: for so many reasons. But he is at the forefront

669
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 5: of that. And like he speaks how he plays. He

670
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 5: I have in my notes c J. Stroud dash ballner,

671
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 5: supreme ballnoer like he but he speaks, how he plays

672
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 5: in that he has this.

673
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 6: Assuredness, this conviction.

674
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 5: So much about what a rookie quarterback has to learn

675
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 5: how to do in his first year has nothing to

676
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 5: do with anything that happens after the snap. A lot does,

677
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 5: but it's all how you control the huddle, how you

678
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 5: manage your teammates, how you learn with your receivers, how

679
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 5: you get people to do what you need them to do,

680
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 5: and how you absorb what other things people need from you.

681
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 5: But doing so with such conviction and such an assuredness.

682
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 5: I mean, the dude Uza's leadership. First of all, for

683
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 5: someone so young, it is really fun. Again, we talked

684
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 5: about being you know, as fans of the sport, it

685
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 5: is so fun to watch somebody be so he is

686
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 5: like basically an on his sleeve player, Like you're gonna

687
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 5: know where he's at because he will show you and

688
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 5: he'll play like that and he'll.

689
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 6: Be that dude.

690
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 5: And I think what's cool is they're not gonna have

691
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 5: to start in a typical year or two with him,

692
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 5: Like they're not gonna have to go through a teaching

693
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 5: progression that I would think would be typical for a

694
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 5: quarterback going into here two.

695
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 6: I'm really excited to.

696
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: See you said during the season last year. Yeah, difference

697
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 2: between him and Week three, it's a week fourteen or whatever,

698
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: was massive.

699
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's advanced.

700
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 5: I mean, he has gone past what the normal steps

701
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 5: would be when you think about, Okay, how do we

702
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 5: give this guy what he needs, but not too much

703
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 5: because he's still growing and he's a kid, and we've

704
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 5: got to get you know, the an NFL full NFL

705
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,479
Speaker 5: offseason and all of those things.

706
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 6: But he showed that very early on.

707
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 5: You know, it was super interesting to watch sort of

708
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 5: the collective conscious wake up to the qualities and the

709
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 5: traits that he had already showed he already was that guy,

710
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 5: and so to see like the collective sport really appreciate.

711
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 5: But then I think, whatever, you know, he's kind of

712
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 5: given that appreciation right back to the sport. I mean,

713
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 5: I've loved hearing him talk on on the podcast and

714
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 5: and all those things because it's just it's just fun.

715
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 5: You just think this this guy is going to be

716
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 5: around for a long time. And he didn't show what

717
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 5: his ceiling would be and instead showed an extremely high floor.

718
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 5: And that's super important when you think about team building.

719
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 5: When you think about when this team is going to

720
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 5: be ready to really push, to really go all in.

721
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 5: You think about everything centers around how fast you can

722
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 5: get through these years, and he's going to go through

723
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 5: him in a truncated time.

724
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 2: And the throws are pretty oh yeah, Like that's sort

725
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: of like, hey, where it starts for me, Like they're

726
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: just oh dude, they're just sort of majestic and the

727
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: anticipation of it all. And I do want to be

728
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: careful of expectations. I'm that I thought now and I

729
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: think more deeply about it since we started, since you

730
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: know we did around the NFL. Justin Herbert like was

731
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: the guy was most confident going into year two, would like,

732
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: you know, be an MVP candidate, that sort of thing.

733
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: And you know, his growth since then has been rocket.

734
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: I think there's reasons for that, and I think reasons

735
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 2: that CJ. Strad will avoid in terms of the continuity

736
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 2: with the coaching staff and certainly the talent around Stroud.

737
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: But you I do want to be careful of just

738
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: like expectations, like some things could be could be bumpy,

739
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: Like it doesn't mean that he's going to climb to

740
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 2: the very top of the quarterback like Ladder this year,

741
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: but I'm not ruling it out either, like defenses would

742
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: will adjust, but like I've just I've seen enough we know,

743
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: and it's it's going to be fun to be along

744
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: the ride from We're going to take a quick break

745
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: and then we're going to come back with some more

746
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: things that we're looking forward to in twenty twenty four.

747
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: All right, continuing on with the things related to the

748
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: National Football League, Patrick, that get you up in the morning,

749
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 2: you know, they get you going. We've had a little

750
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: break and we're back.

751
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 4: At it, and I want to get back at seeing

752
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 4: teams go from worse to first.

753
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: Okay, that we just talked about. CJ.

754
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: Stroud and the Texans were very close, you know, and

755
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 4: looking at the Bears, the Chargers, the Cardinals, the Panthers,

756
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 4: the Commanders, the Patriots, unfortunately the Titans, like we don't

757
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 4: believe it right now, but there's a chance, Like of course,

758
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 4: you know, we did this exercise on game debut, and

759
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 4: the obvious answer is the Cincinnati Bengals, right, But I

760
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 4: think one of those other teams, despite all of the

761
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 4: things that they're facing, has a chance to do it.

762
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 3: And I it's it's one of those situations, you.

763
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: Have a specific one or are you just saying any.

764
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 6: He wants you to say Patriots so bad?

765
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't.

766
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: Do you want me to say the Patriot?

767
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: No, I've been emotionally disconnecting. I got a lot of

768
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: heat for that, but it's just been the facts, Drake

769
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: maybe in back then, Drake May and the mix. Though

770
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to enjoy that, but no, they're not gonna

771
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: win their division because we.

772
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 4: Just saw the Houston Texans have this incredible turnaround and

773
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 4: the Bears were making it. Like, I think you can

774
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: make a case Bears. I think that position the Chargers, but.

775
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: I think that CARDINALSY can that they would be a

776
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: fun team. Yeah, probably not win the division, but a

777
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: fun team.

778
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 6: Their division kills them.

779
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, they're for all of these teams. Maybe you

780
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 4: could make a case for the Titans, but all of

781
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 4: them are better than they were a season.

782
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: Well.

783
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 2: I think the Patriots are gonna better than people think.

784
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: I was shocked when I saw the like you know, spoiler,

785
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 2: unless everything changes on the Desert Front, like we every year,

786
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: we've done a like a before the seasoned Bill Barnwell

787
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: on He's coming on later this week, by the way,

788
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: be excited about that, and you know, drafted over unders

789
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: the fact that the Patriots I think we're four and

790
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: a half or five and a half.

791
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, like forget that.

792
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm so see what the Bears do. Their defense

793
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 5: was already solid, kind of came along a little bit better.

794
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 5: Eberflus is kind of maybe coaching for some some tenure here,

795
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 5: you know, just give or take how the how the

796
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 5: year starts. And I am so excited to see Caleb Williams.

797
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 5: I mean, you guys get you guys know living out

798
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 5: here in la uh, being awake watching the games, you know,

799
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 5: well after the sun has set.

800
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 6: You know, he's he's so special.

801
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 5: And obviously this is doesn't even need to be said,

802
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 5: because he was the number one overall pick and highly

803
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 5: touted prospect and legendary thrower already. But like, still, putting

804
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 5: it all together can be so hard for teams.

805
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 6: We've seen that.

806
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 5: We've seen that with teams with number one overall picks,

807
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 5: and that can be really difficult.

808
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 6: But I think he has.

809
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 5: I don't want to, I don't want to put too

810
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 5: much optimism in the Chicago Bears before we actually see

811
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 5: proof of concept, But I do think life gets a

812
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 5: lot easier when you find the quarterback. I personally think

813
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 5: they've found the quarterback, and now building around him will

814
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 5: be important. I do want to give you guys my

815
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 5: hot Cardinals take, because I don't feel like the Cardinals

816
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 5: if they're they're crushed by their division, and so I

817
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 5: think they get overlooked a lot, right, Like not overlooked

818
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 5: in this sense that it's unfair because they've been bad

819
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 5: and gone through a lot of different things. But the

820
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 5: stuff that they were doing last year, Drew Pets and

821
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 5: Nick Ralis under the Jonathan Gannon sort of umbrella, it

822
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 5: was weird and it was cool and you would hear

823
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 5: quarterbacks talk about it like I don't know what they

824
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 5: were doing. I hadn't seen that what they were doing.

825
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 5: On defense, they would sometimes do these things where they'd

826
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 5: like do like a walk around pre snap look where

827
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 5: they'd sort of just like they were just trying and

828
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 5: all of a sudden rush to the snat they were.

829
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: And I and I thought it was I was like

830
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: they were doing a really good job for that, and

831
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: then you look at the end of the year and

832
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: it's like dead last and like EPA to play loud

833
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: so defensively that I did want to balance it with that.

834
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: I thought like it felt like it was cool and

835
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: it was good and they were overachieving. And then I

836
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: looked and there's like, actually their defense was a sip

837
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 2: offense totally different.

838
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: They improved a ton, but I.

839
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 5: Do I mean they statistically they were not a good team.

840
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 5: Like let's be clear on that, Like let's be very clear.

841
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 5: But sometimes when you see process stuff like that, when

842
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 5: you see troubleshooting, when you see what works what doesn't work,

843
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 5: it's almost like I would kind of with those two coordinators,

844
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 5: I would almost compare it to when you give a

845
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 5: quarterback when a quarterback has a year to sit and

846
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 5: instead of coming right in, I mean obviously they didn't

847
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 5: have a year to sit and like cut their teeth

848
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 5: on being coordinators and being a real team and all

849
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 5: of that. Like the results were the results, and the

850
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 5: stats were the stats. But it was similar vibes where

851
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 5: you know Kyler was hurt. You weren't going into it.

852
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 5: You were kind of like, h what is this going

853
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 5: to be? Okay, let's just see everything We're not first, like,

854
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 5: let's try, let's try things, Let's do these different things.

855
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that they're going to be a contender here.

856
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 5: I think they could be really fun. Honestly, I do

857
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 5: think that, especially you know, with you know, healthy quarterback

858
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 5: and all of those different things, and the draft classes

859
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 5: that they've put together, like they could be.

860
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: Really fun making a draft class last Yeah.

861
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 5: But I think that they they did some stuff that

862
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 5: was interesting and fun and a lot of times teams

863
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 5: do not get an opportunity or even a chance to

864
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 5: do that with without super high stakes, and that could

865
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 5: potentially lead to something cool. So it's not like a

866
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 5: super high guess it's not a super hot Cardinals take.

867
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 5: It's another very lukewarm Cardinals Kylier year.

868
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: Two is on my long list, which we're not getting

869
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: to like almost any of them at this point. But

870
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: they were the number two of rushing attack last year

871
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: in EPA per play after Kyler return full stop, like

872
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 2: they were just by the numbers about a top ten offense.

873
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: After Kyler returned, I thought him and that offense and

874
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 2: what you could see he wasn't fully back from the

875
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: injury physically and was getting up to the speed of

876
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: the offense. But I thought he did things just as

877
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: a quarterback that I didn't always see with Cliff Kingsbury.

878
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: I saw growth, like I process wise, and man, that

879
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: makes me very excited about them. And I think the

880
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: ceiling side you meant. We mentioned the Bears by the

881
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: way and all that we're going to hit on tomorrow's

882
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: show with Steve Weisch and Nick Shook. Everything we've missed,

883
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: everything that has happened in the NFL essentially as much

884
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: as we can can like as much news rundown that

885
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: we think matters. One of them is that, Yeah, the

886
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: Bears are the Hard Knocks team, which is cool, so

887
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: that we can get into getting into this team I liked.

888
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: I'm into like eight weeks straight of Hard Knocks the

889
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: first episode. I know people had their doubts on the

890
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: Giants Hard Knocks, but it was I found it compelling.

891
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: I thought it was a good addition.

892
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give a quick one that you guys don't

893
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: need to comment on, and then I'll throw it to

894
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: you Jordan, just a very quick One's just like if

895
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: you look at Week eighteen last year, here are some

896
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that did not play Aaron Rodgers and that will

897
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: be playing Week one, hopefully. Aaron Rodgers Kirk Cousins, Anthony Richardson,

898
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Drake May. Like that's

899
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: a quarter of the league right there, and like those

900
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: are all dudes, and they're going to be playing, you know,

901
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: health willing week one. So that's just a quick one

902
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: that I'm excited about.

903
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 5: It's so nice that your point actually sets up my point,

904
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 5: So thank you for that. I'm looking at like Year

905
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 5: two quarterbacks in general, and I'm i think maybe more

906
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 5: excited about these guys than possibly guys that are just

907
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 5: coming in and being rookies, because I try not to

908
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 5: grade rookies too difficult, Like with too much difficulty, there's

909
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 5: a learning curve, there's you know, the whole ship has

910
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 5: to get built around them at some point.

911
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 6: And like we touched on with c J.

912
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 5: Stroud, it's you know, he's a very pleasant outlier in

913
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 5: the sense that so much worked and he really worked

914
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 5: and everything really clicked. But the Year two guys, I mean,

915
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,959
Speaker 5: obviously we talked about CJ. I'm so excited to see

916
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 5: I hope Anthony Richardson gets a full season. I think

917
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 5: he is so special. Some of the throws he was

918
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 5: making last year before he got hurt. There's there's some

919
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 5: controlled chaos, but in the best way, in that way

920
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 5: that makes defenders hesitate, what the heck is this guy

921
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 5: gonna do? And and he can just can he can

922
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 5: hurt you every which way? And pairing him, you know,

923
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 5: with Shane Stike and like a lot of these year

924
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 5: two guys, I mean, Bryce Young that's to me a

925
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 5: really compelling story after what he went through last year

926
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 5: and what it must have done in terms of, like

927
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 5: how do you manage that mentally? That's going to be

928
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 5: really significant and unproven, really relatively unproven play caller in

929
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 5: Dave Kanalas, and you're going to kind of see can

930
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 5: you can you write the ship with this young man?

931
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 6: Like can can you figure it out?

932
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 5: Can they maximize some of the qualities that did make

933
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 5: him a really strong prospect, you know coming out of

934
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 5: the draft that weren't necessarily available to him. Does he

935
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 5: actually have more skills and more tools around him? And

936
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 5: I kind of he doesn't qualify structurally. So nobody dig

937
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 5: me on this, Please don't yell at me for this.

938
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 5: But Jordan Love in year two of like being the dude, Like, no,

939
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 5: that's not acceptable well, I'll just I'm gonna go, Yeah,

940
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna.

941
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: That's actually the end of NFL Daily killed the show.

942
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: It's been a good first episode, like yeah.

943
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 5: All right, yes, but year two of being the dude,

944
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 5: like like fully having the reins, fully being you know,

945
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 5: with working fully with Mattlaflor, fully fully having sort of

946
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 5: the you know, the shadow, not in a negative way,

947
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 5: but the shadow of like the legendary quarterback who came

948
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 5: before him, fully away from that building, and I you know,

949
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 5: obviously structurally he does not qualify as a year two quarterback,

950
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 5: but a year two as franchise guy. I loved how

951
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 5: he put together that season last year. I loved seeing

952
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 5: the collaboration between him and Matt Laflor. I think it's

953
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 5: like so magical when the coach you know, and the

954
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 5: quarterback can suddenly you can see the planning together. You

955
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 5: can see them truly collaborating and troubleshooting together. That's what

956
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 5: I think a lot of these year two guys do

957
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 5: have in common. We have yet to see with Bryce

958
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 5: Young obviously, but they do have that really heady way

959
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 5: of being able to vocalize and vertbilize what they want,

960
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 5: of being able to really construct an offense. All of

961
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 5: these young quarterbacks do, and that's really exciting to me.

962
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's really fun for the sport in general.

963
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 5: But it's also really fun when it's like, get out

964
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 5: of their way a little bit, let them cook. And

965
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 5: I think a lot of these guys have that at him.

966
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 4: And so much of the like should a quarterback start,

967
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 4: should a quarterback sit discussion to me is based on

968
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: our perception of who they are, and so we if

969
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 4: it goes bad, right, we perceived them as bad and

970
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 4: think that, oh well, you our buyas has been confirmed.

971
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 4: This guy started early and now he's bad, right, But

972
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 4: Bryce was in a horrible situation.

973
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 6: Oh yeah.

974
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: And I think we can go back to look at

975
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 4: camp reports and conversations surrounding Jordan Love early in his

976
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 4: career where it's like this is not working, and I think.

977
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: Or Aaron Rodgers, I can't remember what it was, a

978
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: craignall or something like he was the fourth quarterback, he

979
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: was struggling his rookie year in camp.

980
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 4: And I remember it was two Super bowls before two

981
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 4: Super Bowls ago. We were talking to Aaron Jones on

982
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 4: Super Bowl Live and Michael Robinson asked him before the segment, like, hey,

983
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 4: how's how's Jordan Love doing, and Aaron said, oh, Jordan

984
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 4: Love's ready, Like this is this is it.

985
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 3: Jordan Love is a quarterback. He's real, He's legit.

986
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 4: And Mike rob was like, hey, we're we're not taping

987
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 4: right now, you can be honest, and and there was

988
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 4: like there was that level of skepticism, and then early

989
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 4: on in the season the skepticism was still there and

990
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 4: all of a sudden he goes nuclear and it's like

991
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 4: this is it and Jordan Love would never be questioned now.

992
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 4: And I'm I'm with Jordan, like, yes, I think we

993
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 4: can get that from some of these year two guys

994
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 4: and completely shift our perception because it's it's football.

995
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: Well, Jordan Love specifically is like a bit of a

996
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: mystery box. I think the floor is higher than we

997
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: ever would have expected. The ceiling is through the roof.

998
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: As as Michael Michael Jordan say, like he's just preposterous.

999
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: He reminds like he reminds me of Kaepernick and Josh

1000
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: Allen at least just in the way that he makes

1001
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: me feel. What when he sort of first came out

1002
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: just like oh, like anything is possible here. I don't

1003
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen, and some of it's gonna be bad.

1004
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: And and those are the two guys. And I think

1005
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: it's just because also just their physicality and just their

1006
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 2: just talent that just is undeniable, that that he reminds

1007
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: me of not that he plays exactly like them, but

1008
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: just in the way that he makes me feel like

1009
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: he he is an incredible uh value add as a quarterback.

1010
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: And that's that is kind of what it's about, at

1011
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: least for me.

1012
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: Like it's like you know, when you're when you're picking

1013
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 2: which games to watch, ultimately the games that you don't

1014
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 2: want to watch as much as the ones and the

1015
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: quarterbacks you're not going to be excited about. I'm going

1016
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: to do one more and then we're going to take

1017
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: one last break and it's just the Steelers being steelery.

1018
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: I was, I actually am, I genuinely am into this.

1019
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: Like we have so might you know, none of us

1020
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: have done a podcast. We haven't talked about football in

1021
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: a while. Like, we have a lot to get to

1022
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: and we're going to get to it. It's it's called

1023
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: NFL Daily, So we're gonna have plenty of time as

1024
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 2: we build up.

1025
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: To this season.

1026
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: But I mean it like the defensive front reminds me

1027
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: so much of the Steelers teams in the ATS and

1028
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: the early twenty tens that just like, well, that's what

1029
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 2: the Steelers are. They're two preposterously good outside linebackers and

1030
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 2: then a third that probably is better than your second.

1031
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: And then they're and that's you know, TJ. Watt and

1032
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 2: Alex Highsmith, and I really like Nate Herbert coming in.

1033
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: And then oh yeah, by the way, there's also like

1034
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: a couple massive difference makers in the front with Cameron

1035
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: Hayward and County Benton, who I think is a making

1036
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 2: the Leap type of candidate if we do a Making

1037
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 2: the Leap show, like really good last year for them

1038
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 2: on the inside. And so that's their defense, and it's

1039
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: Tomlin and they recently, you know, they got Larry Ogunjobi,

1040
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 2: I think Jerry Porter Junior, he's a dog like they're

1041
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 2: just I think they're quietly gonna be one of those

1042
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: Tomlin defenses. And then oh, by the way, it's the

1043
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 2: Art Smith revival. It's like the runs scheme, like you

1044
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: can fall Art Smith for a lot of things, but

1045
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 2: it's a pleasing run scheme to watch when it works.

1046
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: And what I think of is just you know, the

1047
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: pulling tackles and stuff. And when Progeri Jones came in

1048
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 2: last year as a pulling tackle, they improved like day one.

1049
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: And he is just like a monster of highlight blocks

1050
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: on the edge. And now he's moving to left tackle.

1051
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: And who do they take in the first round Troy Filtanu,

1052
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: who is the most massive, the most intimidating, like pulling blocker.

1053
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: And I don't know if this is all gonna work.

1054
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: I have a feeling we're gonna be talking with Nate Tyson.

1055
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna be on this show Jordan next week about

1056
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 2: stuff schematically that we're excited about. That's gonna be Monday's show.

1057
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: I would maybe I'll stop talking because I have a

1058
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 2: feeling Nate's gonna hit this. But like those two dudes

1059
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 2: in Art Smith's running scheme and two really good running backs,

1060
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: I just think that's very steelery to me, and I

1061
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: think they're just gonna be very steelery.

1062
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 5: So he's he's also rebranded to Art is what you know?

1063
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 5: We go from Arthur. He's going to say that, but

1064
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 5: he's going to be painting. It's going to be painting.

1065
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 5: Is that's really this is where you're I mean that

1066
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 5: you're breaking some news here. If he's if he's rebranded,

1067
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 5: because I like art, I like art. I think art

1068
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 5: Art is better for uh, you know, it's like kind

1069
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 5: of more of a it's a punch in the mouth

1070
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 5: kind of name.

1071
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 2: Which was like the holding the microphone stand a little

1072
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,959
Speaker 2: too tight. I mean, Arthur was holding the microphone stand

1073
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: a little too tight. As a head coach, Art is

1074
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: the one cooking up a nineteen eighty style with some

1075
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: twist running scheme in the lab.

1076
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 6: Art's gonna run triple option art Smith.

1077
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 5: Art Smith says, give me the biggest, beefiest offensive lineman

1078
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 5: you've got, and we're going to pull your ass to

1079
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 5: the sideline.

1080
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 6: Like Art. Art Smith's got some lettuce right, Like.

1081
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: Art arts at the whiteboard with an easel, you know,

1082
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 3: he he's drawing.

1083
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 6: Up past they walk it.

1084
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 5: They walk in, and all the all the whiteboards in

1085
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 5: the building have been changed out.

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Speaker 3: And I think there is some some truth.

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00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 4: Like he he was in that stressful position as the

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00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 4: head coach of the football team with a million different

1089
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 4: things to do and to worry about. And and now

1090
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 4: he can be art Smith, right, he can just focus

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00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 4: on play calling and facilitating an offense.

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Speaker 6: He's free to be art.

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00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he can be art. Be the art that you

1094
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 3: want to see.

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Speaker 5: I want to see them run pistol. We're going to

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Speaker 5: get to it. Don't let Nate steel okay for me?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 2: And I do want to, you know, make the first

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00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: NFL Daily apology just to all the great people and

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00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: storylines and trends that I didn't get to. But you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to save them. Oh, We're gonna do them

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00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 2: at some point. That's podcasting one there. You'll use everything

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Speaker 2: I've learned. Eventually, let's take one last quick break and

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Speaker 2: we're going to wrap things up after that. Jaunty back

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00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: on NFL Daily, wrapping up our first show together. A lot,

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Speaker 2: a lot of emotions, a lot of football. Really glad

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00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: you guys were here for it, and just to let

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00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 2: everyone know, like what is NFL Daily going to be?

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00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 2: Like what what is coming up? I think the first

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Speaker 2: first week and plus is a good, you know, example

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Speaker 2: of what's what's coming our show tomorrow we're going to

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00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: talk about, as I mentioned, a lot of everything that's happened.

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Speaker 2: Since there's been a podcast here on this feed. So

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Speaker 2: Nick Shook Steve Weisch is going to join me for that.

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Speaker 2: We're also going to have one of our insiders in

1116
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Speaker 2: rapaport I believe Believe us just for a little news.

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Speaker 2: As part of that show, I'm going to be breaking

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Speaker 2: down kind of previewing camps with Mina Chimes and Bill Barnwell.

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Speaker 2: Later in the week on Monday, we mentioned the scheme

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Speaker 2: show we're going to do with with Nate Tyson and Jordan,

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Speaker 2: and then it'd be great to have Colleen Wolf back

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Speaker 2: in the studio. Patrick, hopefully you're available for that one.

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Speaker 2: I'm really hoping you are anytime. Sure, And so that's

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Speaker 2: the next week and and going from there, it's daily.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be hosting five days a week overnights

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Speaker 2: for now. With that that might get adjusted once once

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00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: we move on into training camp and more news is

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Speaker 2: coming out. And yeah, even Monday mornings, you guys will

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Speaker 2: have something in your feed. And so before we go,

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00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: I do want to do something that we you know,

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00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: we might do every day, we might do some days

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00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 2: and it's like a little after dinnerman like when I

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Speaker 2: would go to my grandfather's house Heinz Rosenthal in Connecticut.

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00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: Every Sunday we'd go there and we'd get back to

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Speaker 2: his house and uh, he would have this little little

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00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: jar mint after eight's. They were called very old school

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00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 2: and you would have like a little after dinner mint.

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Speaker 2: It was we were home from the restaurant. We would

1139
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: always go out, go out to eat, and it's just

1140
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: like a nice this little uh after taste.

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Speaker 1: A nice little thing to leave you on.

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 2: Our after dinner mint, our after eight today is gonna

1144
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 2: be a picture that I was so excited to see

1145
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: while we were on our break. If you're watching on YouTube,

1146
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 2: check us out there too. This is Austin James Roberts

1147
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 2: born May twenty fifth, so just just a few days

1148
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: since we talked to you last. And Eric, as the

1149
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 2: ATEN listeners will know, it's a great producer for us,

1150
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: and he's doing some work from home for now, but

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Speaker 2: he's spending time with Austin and he will be back

1152
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Speaker 2: with us in the studio doing a lot of work

1153
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 2: for us, I believe in August. And in the meantime,

1154
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Speaker 2: Randy Chavez is holding it down behind the scenes. So

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Speaker 2: we love you too, Randy, but we really love Austin James.

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Speaker 2: So congratulations to Eric and Tale and and especially to Austin.

1157
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Speaker 2: You got some badass parents and it's really exciting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, existence is awesome. You're going to enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: And I look, and you don't know any alternative, frankly,

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Speaker 2: in existence or not, but yes, compared to the alternative,

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Speaker 2: enjoy it.

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Speaker 4: And when people because it's always interesting when you have

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Speaker 4: kids and it's like, you know, you tell them how

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00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 4: old your kids are, it's like, oh, that's a good age.

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Speaker 4: And I was thinking, like hell a month, like oh

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00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 4: that's a good age, Like yeah, they're all great ages.

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Speaker 4: And uh, you know, Eric grinding out and doing everything

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Speaker 4: and being a new dad.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's awesome, great dude, and you'll you'll get

1170
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Speaker 2: to know him too, Jordan when he's back. And you're right,

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Speaker 2: I I pushed back hard now because now that Elis

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Speaker 2: my daughter is twelve, it's now to the point where

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Speaker 2: people think it's not a good age. And I'm kind

1174
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:36,479
Speaker 2: of like, you you know, like they're all like, that's

1175
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: my daughter. You're talking just like, oh, teenage age. You know,

1176
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Speaker 2: teenage daughters. It's like all right, you know how you're

1177
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Speaker 2: so happy like that you're like one year old or

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Speaker 2: two year old, like walked without themselves or whatever, or

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Speaker 2: they did one little thing like can you imagine how

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Speaker 2: proud I am of what my bad aass twelve year

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Speaker 2: old is doing on a daily basis, Like it's exponential

1182
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Speaker 2: the pride, that's all. Let's hit the music, Randy, Uh

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Speaker 2: yeah for this first episode of NFL Daily. Again, thank

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00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: you to everyone for their patients and their their support

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00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: and their loved It means a lot to us, and

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Speaker 2: uh for checking out the show and hopefully uh you

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Speaker 2: will tomorrow too. Until then, for Patrick and Jordan, I'm

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Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: See you next thing.