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Speaker 1: Welcome into Real America's voice. This is Sunday the Road Forward.

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Speaker 1: Stay with us as we discuss the intersection of faith,

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Speaker 1: culture and everyday life. As always a word of hope

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Speaker 1: and encouragement for you and those you love, especially in

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Speaker 1: these challenging times. I'm doctor Tim Clinton. I'll be your

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Speaker 1: host our special guest joining this week. He's the President

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Speaker 1: of American Values and Senior vice president for public Policy

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Speaker 1: for the Doctor James Dobson Family Institute. Gary Bauer is

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Speaker 1: back with us. He's an endurance athlete, revivalist, pastor and

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Speaker 1: founder of Malachi Media, digital media company. Doctor Malachi O'Brien

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Speaker 1: is with us and he is the founder and chair

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Speaker 1: of Preborn, the nation's largest pro life organization. Dan Steiner

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Speaker 1: is with us and he is best selling author, evangelist,

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Speaker 1: and founder of Student Leadership University. Doctor j Strack is back.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for watching.

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Speaker 3: All.

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Speaker 1: As continued locking on Minnesota with social media and the

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Speaker 1: news cycles going wild over the ice protesters storming cities.

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Speaker 1: Church there in Saint Paul in a strongly worded statement

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Speaker 1: from the church targeted by the anti ice mob. Here's

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Speaker 1: what the church said on Sunday, January eighteenth, the group

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Speaker 1: of agitators jarringly disrupted our worship gathering. The accosted members

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Speaker 1: of our congregation, frightened kids, created a scene marked by

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Speaker 1: intimidation and threat Such conduct, the church wrote, is shameful

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Speaker 1: and unlawful and will not be tolerated. I was impressed

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Speaker 1: by the pastor handled himself in the midst of that

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Speaker 1: threatening situation. A CNN legal contributor dropped a pretty strong

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Speaker 1: reality bomb on the church protesters this week. Went on

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Speaker 1: to say this, you're in trouble if you interfere physically

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Speaker 1: and obstructing another person's First Amendment right to exercise their

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Speaker 1: freedom of religion practicing their religion. It's a federal crime.

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Speaker 1: They crossed the line when they went inside the church.

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Speaker 1: He went on to say, this imaginative protesters were inside

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Speaker 1: a hospital protest medicaid or health policy and interrupted treatment

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Speaker 1: of patients.

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Speaker 2: It's really not that different.

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Speaker 1: President Trump jumped in the middle of this conversation called

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Speaker 1: out Don Lemon, who led that mob. He said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, this isn't journalism. It's insurrection against people of faith.

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Speaker 1: And it looks like also there were paid protesters. William Kelly,

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Speaker 1: the man who faces all over social media.

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Speaker 2: The guy with the.

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Speaker 1: Beard in their smearing attendees, including children, calling him Nazis,

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Speaker 1: claims that he couldn't be charged. Well, that didn't age. Well,

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Speaker 1: there have been and will be arrests. People are going

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Speaker 1: to be brought to justice for how they a violated

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Speaker 1: the law. That's what Secretary Nomes said. Remember this two only.

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Speaker 1: I think what five months ago a transhooter killed two

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Speaker 1: children at a Minneapolis church and wounded but more than

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Speaker 1: twenty others. I think that's what makes this whole Don

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Speaker 1: Lemon protest mob, what they did even more despicable. And

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Speaker 1: this weekend was the twenty twenty six March for Life

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Speaker 1: event held in Washington, d C. The theme Life is

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Speaker 1: a Gift. It invites all people to rediscover the beauty, goodness,

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Speaker 1: and joy of life itself.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty refreshing. Vice President J. D.

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Speaker 1: Vance addressing the crowd, I'm amazed at how many of

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Speaker 1: today's generations are showing up. They call themselves the pro

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Speaker 1: life generation. Hey, in times like these, our hope, our strength,

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Speaker 1: we know this comes from the Lord. Here's a great

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Speaker 1: verse to hold on to this week. Proverbs eighteen, verse ten.

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Speaker 1: The name of the Lord is a strong tower and

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Speaker 1: they're righteous. Run into it and they're safe. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to pray. We're going to get started. God be with us,

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Speaker 1: bless our program today, Use it for your glory. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for your goodness and grace. We pray for our country.

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Speaker 1: We pray for nation all over the world. Lord, that

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Speaker 1: somehow we would glorify you, that we would lift you up,

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Speaker 1: and you would draw all men to yourself. I pray

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Speaker 1: all this in Jesus's name.

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Speaker 2: Amen, let's get started.

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Speaker 4: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 4: part of your life.

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Speaker 2: Johnny's now is Gary Bauer.

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Speaker 1: Bauer served in President Ronald Reagan's administration for eight years

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Speaker 1: as Undersecretary of Education and Chief Domestic Policy Advisor. Today,

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Speaker 1: he serves as President of American Values, an educational nonprofit

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Speaker 1: organization there in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 2: And he's also.

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Speaker 1: Senior vice president of public Policy for the Doctor James

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Speaker 1: Dobson Family Institute. Gary, welcome back, Good to see you,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 5: Thank you Tim. It's always great to be with you.

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Speaker 5: I hope you headed great holidays.

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Speaker 1: We did, Gary, and over the holidays, and here in

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Speaker 1: early January. My goodness, is social media lit up. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we saw the fraud and all the stuff going down

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota and it was like, oh, this is unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: And then we heard conversations about how fraud is even

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Speaker 1: worse in other states. And then Gary, this anti ice

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Speaker 1: mob and storming a church. What in the world led

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Speaker 1: by Don Lemon and company? And here we go and Gary,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you what this is fever pitch stuff, unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: violating the First Amendment rights of American citizens to gather

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Speaker 1: together to worship God freely in church?

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Speaker 6: Yeah to him?

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Speaker 5: How many times have you and I both heard a

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Speaker 5: well meaning pastor say, look, Tim, Gary, I'm not interested

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Speaker 5: in politics. That's not what I'm all about. And my

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Speaker 5: response has always been, I understand that politics is interested

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Speaker 5: in You don't think you can just worship forever like

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Speaker 5: we've done in America given the radical secularism, neo Marxism

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Speaker 5: that is abroad in the land, and we just saw

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Speaker 5: an example of it in Minneapolis, Saint Paul. That was

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Speaker 5: a disgusting act. It was an infuriating act. Children were frightened.

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Speaker 5: As you remembered him It was just a few months

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Speaker 5: ago that there was.

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Speaker 6: A literal murders.

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Speaker 5: Murders were committed at a Catholic church school. A demonic

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Speaker 5: possessed assassin went to that school and killed children. So

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Speaker 5: imagine if you're at this church in Saint Paul with

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Speaker 5: your children and all of a sudden you hear noise

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Speaker 5: and shouting and people running in. Some of these kids

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Speaker 5: probably were afraid for their lives. So whatever laws were violated,

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Speaker 5: they need to be prosecuted to the fullest.

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Speaker 2: Gary, this.

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Speaker 1: To the end stuff, it's not come, let us reason together.

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Speaker 2: I always watch Sean Hanny.

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Speaker 1: This weekend, he had a guest on and they were

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Speaker 1: yelling at each other, I know, for five minutes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was just blow for blow. It was like watching

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Speaker 1: a Rocky movie or something, and they were just hammering

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Speaker 1: on each other. And part of me says, you know

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Speaker 1: what's concerning is people again are getting caught up in

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Speaker 1: the emotionalism rather than any rational conversation, meaning that nobody's hearing.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: How well you make your point, how clear you are,

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Speaker 1: how right you are, Gary, somewhere, how do we dial

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Speaker 1: this back so we can hear each other and start

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Speaker 1: having some meaningful conversation and figure out how to be

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Tim, I always feel like the skunk

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Speaker 5: at the wedding when this question comes up, because I

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Speaker 5: know that ninety percent of the American people want to

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Speaker 5: dial it back, because I think we all see up

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Speaker 5: ahead the edge of the cliff we're headed too. But

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Speaker 5: to dial it back, you have to have two sides

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Speaker 5: that want to dial it back. I think Christians want

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Speaker 5: to dial it back. I think we saw Christians in

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Speaker 5: that church dial it back in the midst of being attacked.

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Speaker 5: They were praying for the demonstrators. The pastor or ask

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Speaker 5: people to open their Bibles and go to a particular verse.

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Speaker 5: The thing we have to acknowledge here is that the

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Speaker 5: left doesn't want to dial it back. The Left intends

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Speaker 5: to capture America and transform it into a country that

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Speaker 5: would no longer be a shining city on a hill

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Speaker 5: that is built on the idea that our liberty comes

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Speaker 5: from God, not from government. So those two beliefs are

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Speaker 5: not something that we can ever accept. So I'm afraid

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Speaker 5: we're not going to be able to dial it back,

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Speaker 5: which makes it all the more important that we win

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Speaker 5: this battle.

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Speaker 1: Gary, before you go along this very train of thought,

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Speaker 1: Virginia elections have consequences, and look at what in the

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Speaker 1: world's happening already in the first few days the governor,

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Speaker 1: she's signing all kinds of stuff, Gary, making Virginians like

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Speaker 1: wild crazy. People are going like, what in the world

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Speaker 1: she's supposed to be a moderate and here she is extreme.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about from guns to you name it, voting,

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Speaker 1: to illegals, everything, Gary, abortion, all the way up to

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Speaker 1: the birth of a child. It's just like and I

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Speaker 1: heard people debating saying, hey, I'll tell you what it

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Speaker 1: might be an overplay again because people are going to

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Speaker 1: be reminded all over again of how bad things really

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Speaker 1: can get, seriously and how fast they can go. There, Gary,

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Speaker 1: some closing thoughts for us about hey, how we should think,

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Speaker 1: how we should pray, and what we should be doing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, your point that you just made them is really key.

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Speaker 5: What people need to understand, whether we like it or not.

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Speaker 5: For better or worse, there are two visions. And if

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Speaker 5: you are upset with conservative Republicans for some reason, the

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Speaker 5: alternative is neo Marxist leftists. As we're seeing right in

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Speaker 5: the state of Virginia, of all places, Virginia used to

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Speaker 5: kind of thing you would expect, and you know from

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Speaker 5: Governor Newsom in California or Mandami in New York City.

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Speaker 5: So there's two diametric visions for the country here. As

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Speaker 5: far as what we ought to be doing, we've got.

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Speaker 5: We can't grow weary in this. You know, we every

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Speaker 5: previous generation made sacrifices in order to give us the

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Speaker 5: liberties we have. It would be a disaster if we

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Speaker 5: walked away from this battle. We not only would lose now,

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Speaker 5: but we would condemn our children and grandchildren to lesser lives,

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Speaker 5: lesser opportunities, lesser chance of experiencing the freedom that we experience.

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Speaker 5: So we need to steal ourselves. We need to pray.

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Speaker 5: Of course, at the other side we'll see the light.

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Speaker 5: But we also need to pray for courage for us.

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Speaker 5: That we need to pray to God that he will

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Speaker 5: give us the same courage that the fathers of our

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Speaker 5: faith showed when standing up for Christ meant the death sentence.

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Speaker 5: All we have to do is vote, be citizens and

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Speaker 5: defend faith. Family and freedom. I believe if we do this,

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Speaker 5: God will continue to bless our nation.

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Speaker 2: Well, God be with us. Gary Bauer, always great to

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Speaker 2: have you. Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Malachi Media. Malachi, thank you for taking time out of

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Speaker 7: Doctor Clinton. I'm honored to be on the show. I

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Speaker 1: Over the last couple of weeks, Malachai, I think everybody

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Speaker 1: The come let us reason together thing, Malachi, it's fading.

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Speaker 7: This is a Revelation twelve spirit of accusation on the earth.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, definitely.

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Speaker 6: And so what we see is people don't necessarily care.

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Speaker 6: And there's a failure.

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Speaker 7: This is a pretty hard word, so I hope I

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like media overall, though, Malachi, it just

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Speaker 2: Hey, if you have.

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Speaker 1: Ought with your brother, go to him or her. Then

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Speaker 1: But yeah, trying to justify where they're out or what

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Speaker 6: Cover up culture in the church.

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Speaker 6: He was trying to win them through conversation. He was not.

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Speaker 6: He was not.

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Speaker 7: He was fearless to challenge false ideas, but he wasn't

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Speaker 7: he wasn't destroying them in the process. And I think

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Speaker 7: we need to learn the art of arguing ideas, not people,

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Speaker 7: and have honest ideas. I have this quote in my

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Speaker 7: book where it says this in a land filled with liars,

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Speaker 7: and a land filled with liars, when truth is spoken,

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Speaker 7: it will.

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Speaker 6: Be received as a declaration of war.

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Speaker 7: We need to declare truth because people that don't want

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Speaker 7: the truth, they'll try to mask it with emotional with

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Speaker 7: emotional sabotage language. But this is the hour that we

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Speaker 7: as believers, we still realize.

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Speaker 6: I need to love one another. What a novel concept,

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Speaker 6: be kind one to another.

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Speaker 1: He didn't die with an AR fifteen in his hands.

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Speaker 1: He a microphone in his hands. Just think about that,

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Speaker 1: and it comes back to the kind of conversation we're having. Well,

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Speaker 1: we need to have more conversation around this, Malachi.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot more to unpack. But hey, the name of.

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Speaker 7: The book again, Time to rise overcoming accusation walking in Victory.

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Speaker 1: Hey, before you go, I know you're a marathon runner.

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Speaker 1: I know you're running. You got something going down, I

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Speaker 1: think this year. Tell us about it real quick so

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Speaker 1: people can.

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Speaker 2: Pray for you.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So this year I'm running five two hundred mile

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Speaker 7: nine weeks, eight weeks, I'll be running the Arizona Monster

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Speaker 7: three hundred, a thirty thousand feet of elevation gain and

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Speaker 7: descent over the entire course.

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Speaker 6: We'll take seven days.

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Speaker 7: Two months later, Tahoe two hundred, two months later Bigfoot

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Speaker 7: two hundred, and then a famous race two months later

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Speaker 7: that David Goggins ran in last year, the Moab two forty.

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Speaker 7: So I've got some big races this year to do.

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Speaker 7: It's never been done, these ultra long races. So hopefully

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Speaker 7: I live to see twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wait to hear the results. Doctor Melchi O'Brien, thank

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Speaker 1: you so.

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Speaker 2: Much for joining me.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Doctor Clinton.

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Speaker 1: He is the founder and chair of Preborn, the nation's

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Speaker 1: largest pro life organization. Dan Steiner is with us. Do

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Speaker 1: dot com. Join us now is Dan Steiner. Dan is

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Speaker 1: the founder and chair of Preborn, a dedicated pro life

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Speaker 1: nonprofit organization that supports life affirming pregnancy clinics in their

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Speaker 1: mission to reach women considering abortion, particularly in areas with

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Speaker 1: high abortion rates. Dan, welcome back, Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 8: Good to be here, my friend, Dan.

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Speaker 1: As We're gonna start at Big Week Pro Life Week

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Speaker 1: March for Life fifty third annual event started by Nellie

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Speaker 1: Gray up in Washington. Theme this year, Life's a Gift.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what invites people all over the world

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Speaker 1: really to rediscover the beauty, goodness and joy of life itself.

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Speaker 1: Vice President Vance addressing the crowd this year, amazing to

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Speaker 1: me how many of the younger generation Dan are showing up.

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Speaker 1: They call themselves the pro life generation. It's exciting to see.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's kind of a mirrors the resurgence of faith

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Speaker 8: that we're finding also in that generation, which our friend

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Speaker 8: Charlie Kirk helped tremendously with that, but it was happening

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Speaker 8: before his fatal shooting, and we of course know that

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Speaker 8: this is a generation that the gen Z's millennials now

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Speaker 8: Alpha's unfortunately upon which the hammer of abortion is most

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Speaker 8: greatly struck, and so it's good to see that they're

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Speaker 8: out there showing their support for life. It's very encouraging

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Speaker 8: poortends I hope very badly for the abortion industry as

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Speaker 8: our prayer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan, a lot of people are saying that the

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Speaker 1: pro life movement is winning, we're in this post row era,

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Speaker 1: but we know a lot of it is just falling

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Speaker 1: back on the states now. With Virginia in line, we've

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Speaker 1: got now I think nine states where abortion is legal

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Speaker 1: up to birth, which is horrifying. It's just it's sickening

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Speaker 1: when you really think of it. But talk about the

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Speaker 1: significance of the pro life movement and where you think

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Speaker 1: we're at.

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Speaker 8: Well, this pro death jigger nut tim is run by

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Speaker 8: some of the most brilliant fools. I don't say that derogatory,

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Speaker 8: I have biblical of the fool says in the heart

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Speaker 8: there is no God. The Ford Foundation, the Bloomberg Foundation,

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Speaker 8: the Gates Foundation, that some brilliant people that back in

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Speaker 8: twenty seventeen figured out that roversus the way wood fall

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Speaker 8: because it's a faulty judicial activism decision in the first place,

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Speaker 8: and it did, and they were ready with telehealth. And

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Speaker 8: so now even though it did fall, we're seeing more

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Speaker 8: abortions every year, by about eighty thousand every year, more

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Speaker 8: through chemical digital abortion, people ordering pills, and then constitutional

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Speaker 8: amendments being as we as you just mentioned in Virginia

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Speaker 8: being locked in in pro death states, and the whole

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Speaker 8: strategy of giving it back to the states is failed

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Speaker 8: in that the states that have the most population, except

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Speaker 8: for maybe Florida and Texas, are the ones in which

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Speaker 8: there's most of the abortions, and they're the ones that

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Speaker 8: are sanctioning end up as you mentioned, many of them

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Speaker 8: to the day of birth, not to mention harvesting, you know,

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Speaker 8: the organs from the babies in the process.

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Speaker 1: And so Dan, it's amazing to me because the majority

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Speaker 1: of Americans, they want some type of restriction on abortion.

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Speaker 1: How do these states go so rogan, so crazy? You

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Speaker 1: know that, it's just unbelievable to me. They are really

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Speaker 1: representing the will of the people, if you will. It's

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Speaker 1: just these special interest groups and planned parenthood and more

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Speaker 1: just railroading what they want.

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Speaker 8: As an absence. I think as well, Tim, which you

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Speaker 8: and I are very active in trying to resolve of

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Speaker 8: the faithful right actually getting out and voting and showing

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Speaker 8: up to you know, particularly in non presidential years when

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Speaker 8: these things are run through, and so we need to

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Speaker 8: pray that we would rise up against these things.

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Speaker 1: Dan, you had an organization called Preborn. I think it's

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Speaker 1: the nation's single most successful pro life ministry out there.

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Speaker 1: God is doing unbelievable things in and through it. Would

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Speaker 1: you tell us a little bit about Preborn. Some people

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Speaker 1: may not even be aware of what you're doing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you, Jim Well or the competition to the

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Speaker 8: abortion industry, we're trying to put them out of business.

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Speaker 8: That's our job and our distinctive is that we're the

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Speaker 8: gospel champion of the pro life movement. And so here's

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Speaker 8: how it works. It's a pipeline from technologically reaching the

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Speaker 8: girl online, having her call our call center, have her

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Speaker 8: talked to a nurse if she's abortion vulnerable, and then

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Speaker 8: sending her to one of our clinics to see an ultrasound,

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Speaker 8: of which she'll change her mind eighty percent of the

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Speaker 8: time if she'll see her baby you know they're on ultrasound.

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Speaker 8: So that's the pathway that we've had constructed to compete

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Speaker 8: with an online abortion, which is where probably sixty nine

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Speaker 8: percent of all abortions are this year, last year, then

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty five which we just came out of. Resultantly,

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Speaker 8: we've seen over eighty one thousand, eight nine hundred and

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Speaker 8: forty one exactly baby saved as a result of that.

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Speaker 8: And so while a lot of pro life, wonderful organizations

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Speaker 8: protest and legislate against the issue, were quietly away from

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Speaker 8: the firestorm of rhetoric, loving women into wise decisions and

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Speaker 8: sharing them an opportunity to have a personal relationship with

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Speaker 8: our chief executive officer, which isn't me, it's Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 8: And we had over ten thousand women take us up

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Speaker 8: on it last year and received Christ as their Lord

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Speaker 8: and savior. And so that's the greatest decision they could

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Speaker 8: make hopefully they'll lead their baby to Christ as well

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Speaker 8: when the kid matures. Populating Earth and eternity is what

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Speaker 8: we're about doing, saving lives for both. We put ultrasam

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Speaker 8: machines in clinics across the United States, put one hundred

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Speaker 8: and twenty five of them in and here in our

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Speaker 8: twentieth year tim our anniversary celebration, we're hoping to give

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Speaker 8: every clinic in America that needs an alter sound a

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Speaker 8: new one and celebration of life. And so that's that's

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Speaker 8: what we're about. We train clinics and evangelism over over

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Speaker 8: four hundred and about five hundred of them. So it's

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Speaker 8: an effort of practical, biblical gospel centered compassion is what

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Speaker 8: we're doing. And that's our distinctive.

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Speaker 1: Dan, you mentioned earlier. The abortion pill is really a serious,

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Speaker 1: serious issue right now. They're saying what some sixty five

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Speaker 1: to seventy percent of all abortions now are related to

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Speaker 1: the abortion pill. How are you guys stepping in the

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Speaker 1: middle of that.

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Speaker 8: Well, it is horrific in that we know nearly eleven

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Speaker 8: percent of these women that take the abortion pill end

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Speaker 8: up in hospitalization, serious hospitalizations because they don't know how

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Speaker 8: far along they are in their gestational age, and the

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Speaker 8: pill isn't effective in evacuating all the contents their uterus

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Speaker 8: so to get infection. And some of them are at

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Speaker 8: topic pregnancies that are undiagnosed, which can only be done

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Speaker 8: with an ultrasound. This is a medical disaster for women.

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Speaker 8: The best thing that can happen is after hours of

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Speaker 8: bloody trauma, she's going to deliver her baby on her

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Speaker 8: bathroom floor and have to dispose of the body.

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Speaker 3: So this is horror.

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Speaker 8: This is a Macayber horror story, is what this thing

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Speaker 8: is to him. And in light of that, we are

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Speaker 8: here reaching them online, giving them an alternative, telling them

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Speaker 8: the reality of the abortion pill and what they're going

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Speaker 8: to be facing, and just showing them that we care,

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Speaker 8: giving them medical alternatives to that, and we're going to

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Speaker 8: roll it out in twenty twenty six like it's never

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Speaker 8: been done before, in a very robust telehealth competition to

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Speaker 8: the abortion industry.

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Speaker 3: Dan.

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Speaker 1: If people want to learn more about you preborn, maybe

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Speaker 1: how to get involved in the pro life movement, where

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Speaker 1: can they go?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they should go to preborn dot com preborn dot

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Speaker 8: com if they want to donate. Twenty eight bucks, they

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Speaker 8: can underwrite an ultrasound. Maybe somebody wants undwrite a ultra

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Speaker 8: on the machine for fifteen thousand all bad text deductible, Tim,

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Speaker 8: and that's Preborn dot Com dan Steiner.

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Speaker 1: I always appreciate you and your ministry, and we appreciate

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Speaker 1: you taking time out of your busy schedule to join us.

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Speaker 8: Thank you the joy to do so, Tim, Thank you

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Speaker 8: so much.

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Speaker 1: He's President EMERITIS and founder of Student Leadership University, the

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Speaker 2: Jay, thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Tim. I always have to take extra

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Speaker 3: vitamins and a five hour energy because I know you

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Speaker 3: bring the heat.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jay, I want to open up talking about Israel

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Speaker 1: and evangelicals for a moment. Back in December, there was

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Speaker 1: a special meeting down in Palm Beach. The Prime Minister

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Speaker 1: was a part of a big delegation visiting President Trump,

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Speaker 1: and they also decided to bring a number of faith

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Speaker 1: leaders to town. You, along with a guy named Mike Evans,

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Speaker 1: helped coordinate us some meaningful interaction. Jay talk to us

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Speaker 1: about why this group met and what you had hoped

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Speaker 1: to accomplish.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Tim, and you were at that meeting

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Speaker 3: with the Prime Minister, and I appreciated it because it

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Speaker 3: made me look good when about four or five of

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Speaker 3: you guys walked in. So it was an amazing time

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Speaker 3: to recap the trip. Mike Evans is a force of nature.

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Speaker 3: He's devoted his life to Israel, especially fighting anti Semitism,

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Speaker 3: and he's got one of the most incredible museums in

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Speaker 3: the world called Foss Friends of Zion, and he's known

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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister as you and I heard. I knew it,

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Speaker 3: but I heard it again at our meeting with him

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Speaker 3: when he said, Mike and I've known each other since

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Speaker 3: we were fourteen, And of course he was joking about

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Speaker 3: each other's age. But it's amazing the relationship has had

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Speaker 3: and recently because of what's going on and Tim, no

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Speaker 3: one's addressing this any harder than you are. But there

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Speaker 3: really is a rise from some surprising sources on anti Semitism.

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Speaker 3: And this was an effort. Our dream was to take

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Speaker 3: one thousand evangelical pastors. We had educators in that, we

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Speaker 3: had youth pastors in that, but there were a thousand

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Speaker 3: of us that went as the guest of the Israeli government.

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Speaker 3: It was my one hundred and fifth trip, but I've

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Speaker 3: never been on a trip like this. We saw Israel

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Speaker 3: as I had never seen it. Number One, we got

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Speaker 3: to meet with the hostage families. We got to meet

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Speaker 3: with some of the hostages that had been released. We

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Speaker 3: got to go and hear the stories of some of

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Speaker 3: the families that their loved one didn't come home, or

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Speaker 3: husband or daddy, mom didn't come home because of the

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Speaker 3: atrocities that took place in those tunnels. We got to

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Speaker 3: see the tunnels. We got to go to the carnival

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Speaker 3: site where this happened, and it was heartbreaking to know

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Speaker 3: that people, young people primarily were the victims of this

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Speaker 3: horrible atrocity because it was a music festival. It's right

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Speaker 3: on the border. Many of those families had opened their

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Speaker 3: homes for those in Gaza to come and have a

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Speaker 3: part time job or to come in for medical I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, it was kind of a laid back area

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Speaker 3: and that hospitality was taken advantage of. So we saw

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Speaker 3: and felt Tim like, I never have what Israel's gone

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Speaker 3: through in the hostage situation. And those tunnels. Billions of

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Speaker 3: dollars spent on the tunnels by Gaza, by Hamas. They

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Speaker 3: could have built hospitals, they could have built they could

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Speaker 3: have been synagogues, a university, they could have had one

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Speaker 3: of the most beautiful But they've spent billions of dollars

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Speaker 3: for tunnels that you could drive an armored truck through

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Speaker 3: and filled them with supplies, and that's where they kept

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Speaker 3: the hostages. So we got to relive that. But second

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Speaker 3: of all, Tim, for me, the most meaningful moment I'll

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Speaker 3: be brief here, is we went to Shiloh. Now Shiloh

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Speaker 3: is this amazing area, but the media calls it the

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Speaker 3: West Bank. Some Middle Eastern commentators call the area of

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Speaker 3: Shiloh part of the West Bank, and it is on

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Speaker 3: a map the West Bank. But you can't ask Israel

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Speaker 3: to give up Shiloh. That's where eighty percent of every

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Speaker 3: account in the Bible took place. Now, obviously there was Egypt,

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Speaker 3: Obviously there was Nevica, Azar, Obviously there was the country

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Speaker 3: today of Jordan. But there were these other countries that

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Speaker 3: we have Biblical interactions with. But eighty percent of everything

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Speaker 3: in the Bible took place in what today is called

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Speaker 3: the West Bank. Israel has a little tiny dot. Just

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Speaker 3: get a piece of white paper, put a little, one

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Speaker 3: little dot in the middle. The rest are Arab nations,

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Speaker 3: powerful nations, oil money, you know what it's like. And

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Speaker 3: so to be there and to see that if Israel

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Speaker 3: gave up that one area of land, that that Jerusalem

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Speaker 3: and Tel Aviv could be attacked in about five minutes,

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Speaker 3: that's how long they'd have to defend from a missile.

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Speaker 3: And they'd be giving away where the first tabernacle was,

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Speaker 3: where many of the mirror, all the miracles that I mean.

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Speaker 3: So it has really come alive to me, even after

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Speaker 3: all these years, tim that Israel's being asked to give

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Speaker 3: away their heart and soul two thirds of their land

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Speaker 3: to have peace. And yet there's thousands of square miles

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Speaker 3: out there lying vacant for those that want another homeland

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Speaker 3: for those in the West Bank.

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Speaker 1: Jay Nation, whose land is about the size of the

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Speaker 1: state of New Jersey, the center of attention really to

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Speaker 1: the world. It's unbelievable. We know the Bible says that

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Speaker 1: those who bless Israel will be blessed in those who

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Speaker 1: curse Israel will be cursed. There's some tension going on

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Speaker 1: around this. It's even showing up now, Jay, in conservative circles,

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Speaker 1: even some people of faith are debating and they're discussing

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Speaker 1: this whole issue of replacement theology.

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Speaker 2: Jay.

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Speaker 1: It's concerning because it also I don't know it just

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Speaker 1: this anti Semitism stuff somehow gets connected to it. You

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Speaker 1: know that, And Jay, we're seeing it serve surface everywhere.

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Speaker 1: What's your response to that, Jay, For people who are

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Speaker 1: watching at home and they're trying to make sense of

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Speaker 1: the whole Israel peace, what do they need to know?

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Speaker 2: Just plain and simple.

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Speaker 3: I think they need to I think you said it well, Tim,

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the size of New Jersey. Take that

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Speaker 3: little dot and put it in the continent of Africa, right,

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Speaker 3: and now that's an exaggerated picture, but that's what the

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Speaker 3: real life would look like, that little dot surrounded by

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Speaker 3: all that vast land. And Israel has made the desert bloom.

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Speaker 3: Israel's led the world in technology, many medical advances. Israel

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Speaker 3: is a miracle if the desert began to bloom. But

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Speaker 3: the irony is that Israel has a right to have

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Speaker 3: their ancient homeland. Now do the Arabs have a right

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Speaker 3: to have a homeland. Of course they do. But every

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Speaker 3: call for giving many of the Palestinians a homeland means

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Speaker 3: that we take more and more land from Israel, which

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Speaker 3: is the size of New Jersey. When there is thousands

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Speaker 3: of undeveloped squared miles, and the money that is available,

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Speaker 3: the technology that is the desert would bloom for giving

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Speaker 3: the Palestinians a well deserved homeland. They deserve a homeland.

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Speaker 3: The problem is because of past activities. You know, Egypt

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Speaker 3: does not want the Palestinians. Jordan, who's taken in over

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Speaker 3: a million refugees from all over the Middle East. Their

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Speaker 3: heart is tremendous in helping Arabs that need help, but

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Speaker 3: they don't want the Palestinians because of the history of

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Speaker 3: the PLO and of terrorism and the revolts. So it

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Speaker 3: it's time now. And that's what a miracle about President

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Speaker 3: Trump and the vision of those Abraham those Peace records,

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Speaker 3: the Abraham Accords, and Tim, you and I have talked

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Speaker 3: about it. I know you've got some thoughts on it.

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Speaker 3: But what a beautiful picture of faith. You know, religion

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Speaker 3: is a part of all the tension. Why shouldn't religion

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Speaker 3: be a part of the answer. And that's the beautiful

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Speaker 3: thing about all of us that believe in the Creator,

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Speaker 3: believe in God, Christian, Jews and Arabs. The Abraham Accords

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Speaker 3: are already making a difference. But we're about that far away.

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Speaker 1: Genesis twelve two, I will make you into a great nation,

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Speaker 1: and I will bless you, and I will make your

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Speaker 1: name great, and you will be a blessing Lord's covenant

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Speaker 1: with Abraham. Jay, you know, in the end, I guess

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Speaker 1: one thing we can do is just sit back.

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Speaker 2: And I'm reminded of.

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Speaker 1: The scripture that says pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

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Speaker 1: We've got to pray that God would move in a

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Speaker 1: mighty way over there.

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Speaker 2: And do his work.

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Speaker 3: Jay.

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Speaker 2: Always great to see you, my friend. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for joining me.

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Speaker 3: Hey, God bless you, and God bless America and God

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Speaker 3: bless Israel.

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Speaker 4: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 4: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a

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Speaker 4: part of your life.

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Speaker 1: Hey, and closing, I know these are unprecedented times, they're

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Speaker 1: difficult times, but I believe that God's in control. I

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Speaker 1: believe is at work, and I hope you will press

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Speaker 1: in close to Him in his heart and know that

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Speaker 1: God loves you and that he wants to be in

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Speaker 1: your life. Our hope, our strength comes from the Lord.

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Speaker 1: Here again is that encouraging verse of the Bible to

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Speaker 1: hold on to this week, Proverbs eighteen, verse ten. I

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Speaker 1: like this, the name of the Lord is a strong power.

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Speaker 1: The righteous run into it and they are safe.

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Speaker 2: Hope. You know also that you can look to God

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Speaker 2: for wisdom.

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Speaker 1: And direction in your everyday life. But let me also

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Speaker 1: say this, I've learned as a professional counselor that it's

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Speaker 1: normal to have some concern, fear, worry, especially when things

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Speaker 1: aren't the way they're supposed to be. But I've also

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Speaker 1: learned that if you aren't careful, you can begin to

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Speaker 1: get consumed by it all. It can control you and

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Speaker 1: it's easy to lose perspective. For some they think they've

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Speaker 1: lost hope. Some even feel like life would be better

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Speaker 1: off without them.

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Speaker 2: I say this every week.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to live like that. Simply taking a

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Speaker 1: step reaching out for help. It's the gateway to a

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Speaker 1: new day or a new you. And if you are

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Speaker 1: someone you love is struggling, I hope you'll do that

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Speaker 1: reach out for help. There are wonderful counselors and pastors

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Speaker 1: who care can help you find the hope, the answers that.

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Speaker 2: You're looking for.

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Speaker 1: There also a lot of amazing resources now I'd love

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Speaker 1: That's AACC dot net. If you'd like to find a

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Speaker 1: If you have a personal relationship with God, you know

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Speaker 1: what you can do that right now by asking Him

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Speaker 1: to comm into your life, simply praying a prayer from

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Speaker 1: it right with me, Lord.

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Speaker 2: Jesus, I need you.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm a sinner. I believe he died for

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Speaker 1: my sins. I want to turn from my sin and

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Speaker 1: invite you to come into my heart and life. I

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Speaker 1: want to trust and follow you as my lord and savior.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for loving me, for giving your life from me, Jesus,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the gift of grace, forgiveness, and the

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Speaker 1: gift of eternal life. I pray all this in Jesus's name. Amen,

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Speaker 1: you know what I believe. I believe God heard your

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Speaker 1: prayer if you prayed that from your heart to his

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Speaker 1: And you know what the Bible says. John three sixteen says,

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Speaker 1: for God so loved the world that he gave his

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Speaker 1: only begotten son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish,

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Speaker 1: will be saved. Best thing you can do if you

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Speaker 1: prayed that prayer again is commit yourself to serving Him

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Speaker 1: As a counselor, I want to encourage you pick up

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Speaker 2: Hey, before we go, maybe.

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