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Speaker 1: What would you talk about on your on your podcast

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Speaker 1: firm Elvis represents fifteen minute morning show where this isn't doing.

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Speaker 1: She's convinced that you're trying to like I have not

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Speaker 1: kill him off. Just happened. Okay, So Elvis and I

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Speaker 1: had a conversation about fifteen minutes ago, and he was

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Speaker 1: wondering how how quickly he could get out because he

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Speaker 1: well we could do the podcast without you. So I

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Speaker 1: nearly reminded him that, by the way, that's not what happened.

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Speaker 1: He's dropping on us. That's not what happened. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're a big liar, and you're trying to kill me

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Speaker 1: on my favorite quote I just was though. He said, quote, Nate,

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Speaker 1: why do you keep trying to kill me off? I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to kill you off. I'm trying to give

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Speaker 1: you your time back. If you want to join the podcast,

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Speaker 1: you were more than welcome to. But then Alas plays

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Speaker 1: this cat and mouse game because Elvis was ready to

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Speaker 1: tee up the podcast and started up and then all

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Speaker 1: then Elvis disappears it's like psych alright, I'm back, I'm back. Hi. Hi.

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Speaker 1: Well we still have Vienna. I know. That's why I

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Speaker 1: wanted to stay. Is the most fascinating interview we've had

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Speaker 1: in questions. I have a question that I wasn't able

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Speaker 1: that you can track a male rhinoceros because his dinger

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Speaker 1: drags between his legs? Where did you? Where did you?

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Speaker 1: You can Vienna? You gotta talk into the moke, come

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Speaker 1: close to the microphone. You can do that with elephants,

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Speaker 1: but not with elephants. Dinger drags the ground. So that's

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Speaker 1: how you can. You can track him that way, you can?

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Speaker 1: back as an elephant. Be a lot of shaping there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I drag it. Elephants, elephants pumps. It's like five letters,

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Speaker 1: it's like one gallen. Oh my, that's love. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I never wanted to be an elephant so bad in

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Speaker 1: my life. I've never wanted a data elephant so bad. Person.

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Speaker 1: That's a fun Oh my god, that's a fun fact. Fun.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it bigger than a person? Isn't five ms bigger?

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Speaker 1: Than a person. He said five liters something else. Penis

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Speaker 1: was five meters long. When he when he gets to

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Speaker 1: na from a distance experience being out in the bush happen. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I've seen it happen. Oh, it's kind of struggle to

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Speaker 1: it's kind of love. It's kind of a very good

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. You know, like the bulls are bigger

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Speaker 1: So sometimes she will sort of calm the female by

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Speaker 1: can penetrate effort. Wow, Danielle, could you imagine me showing

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Speaker 1: up with you and Sheldon, like you think the fun

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Speaker 1: things that we never learned in school. I feel like

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Speaker 1: bull as a male cow. But I mean, come on.

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Speaker 1: But I also now realized that elephants have threesomes, but

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Speaker 1: ever get attracted to like a hippo by mistake? You know? Okay?

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Speaker 1: We love Vienna. Have a beautiful trip back to Africa.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, guys, thank you so much. The

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