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Speaker 2: Phoenix where that game of course got moved because of

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Speaker 2: what has been happening here in the southern California area.

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Speaker 3: Richie.

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Speaker 2: It has been crazy this week, to say the least,

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Speaker 2: and obviously our thoughts and prayers with all those families

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Speaker 2: have been affected adversely by these fires, historic fires in

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Speaker 2: the general Los Angeles area, obviously in the Palisades, just

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Speaker 2: absolute devastation. A lot of people I know and have

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Speaker 2: known for years, you know, directly affected by these fires.

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Speaker 2: So and then yesterday rich here at Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: there was the possibility of evacuations that really knocked us

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Speaker 2: off the air for about twelve hours.

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Speaker 3: I know you were affected with your morning show. Yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We got back on the air eleven o'clock on the

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Speaker 2: West coast. First voice we heard was our Monci, of course,

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Speaker 2: which was great to hear Monci, and we were.

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Speaker 3: Able to do our show yesterday.

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Speaker 2: But right now, just to update you, because I know

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Speaker 2: people listening, everyone around the world has been following this story.

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Speaker 2: The winds did pick up a little bit this morning

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Speaker 2: as they're trying to get containment on this Palisades fire.

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Speaker 2: Some of the good news though, is the fact that

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Speaker 2: they seem to be making some progress on the fire

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Speaker 2: out in the area out of Pasadena, where actually there

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Speaker 2: have been more fatalities at least so far than the

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Speaker 2: Pasadena Palisades fires. So but the Eating fire. They're trying

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Speaker 2: obviously it's a it's still a very serious situation, far

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Speaker 2: from over the rich. I know you've been following obviously,

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Speaker 2: and it's been it's been crazy, absolutely, and by the way,

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Speaker 2: people reaching out to me, you know, we live out

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Speaker 2: in the Westlake Village area. You know, fortunately, and we've

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Speaker 2: been you know, we've been there before. We've had evacuation.

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Speaker 2: We had at fires several years ago in the Thousand

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Speaker 3: So this is the problem about living in this general area.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have these building of houses, you know,

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Speaker 2: the beautiful West Coast in California, but you're you're in

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Speaker 2: an area that can be susceptible, especially when the Santa

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Speaker 2: Ana winds, historic wins that we had certainly last week,

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Speaker 2: can prop up and and just case because absolute devastation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well, well put and it's absolutely true. And

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Speaker 4: I'm glad to hear that you're safe, buddy. My my

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Speaker 4: So they are currently an eacuation warning area. And I

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Speaker 4: The the worst it got was an evacuation warning. So

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Speaker 1: I cannot stress enough how unbelievably.

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Speaker 4: I how how unbelievably impactful it has been to see

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Speaker 4: Those are the heroes. That's the story I want told here.

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Speaker 4: all of your hard work.

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Speaker 2: Well, right now, you're not gonna believe what just happened.

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Speaker 2: Troy Franklin just caught a forty three yard touchdown pass

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Speaker 2: from bow Knicks and the Broncos have taken an early

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Speaker 2: Denver Broncos have taken the early lead. As heavy underdogs

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Speaker 2: you know, it's been a great story with Denver.

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Speaker 3: They made the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: So the rookie quarterback, but still rookie quarterback, first playoff.

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Speaker 3: Game on the road.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's cold and Buffalo, how's he gonna handle it?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: Right now, seven to nothing Denver and we are two

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Speaker 2: Bo Nick's two for two sixty two yards and a score.

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Speaker 2: Not too bad for him.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Again, aside from obviously far more serious stories in the

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Speaker 2: obviously carry you through this game going on. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: get you ready for the Packers Eagles later at Commanders

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Speaker 2: Bucks and then tomorrow's matchup between the Vikings and the Rams.

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Speaker 3: But Rich, I really want to go back to yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So I am listening to the Chargers pregame show hosted

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Speaker 2: by our own Isaac Loehencron and then my dear friend

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Speaker 2: Matt Murney Smith, Daniel Jeremiah. Guys we've known for years,

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Speaker 2: you know, handling the play by play, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying it's an indictment on them, because I think they're

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Speaker 2: all super talented people. But this was a great sense

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Speaker 2: of concern about this matchup against the Houston Texans. The

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Speaker 2: they didn't play mediocre football. They played bad football. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they were just trending in the wrong direction as opposed

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Speaker 2: this game and save that eighty six yard touchdown, I mean.

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Speaker 3: This was a blowout.

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Speaker 2: I mean a complete domination on both sides of the

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Speaker 3: You had a.

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Speaker 2: Team seemingly ready playing up or beyond their level throughout

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Speaker 1: Well three things here.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's a mediocre Houston Texan team that was

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Speaker 4: get it, I get the reality of situation. If you

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Speaker 4: asked me, I thought that that was going to win

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Speaker 4: that Justin Herbert's bad day at the office had a

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Speaker 4: lot to do with it. But it's never just one guy.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there are so many complicating factors. Typically when

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Speaker 4: that makes a big difference. And I'm telling you that

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Speaker 1: There were times when we went down there.

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Speaker 4: Gosh, this has to be twenty eleven, twenty ten, when

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Speaker 4: I was with the Patriots playing against the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 4: So it's an and erg field absolutely do break the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a nightmare for the Chargers. I mean,

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Speaker 3: You go from five to twelve to eleven and six,

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Speaker 2: maybe eight. I didn't see him with a winning record,

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Speaker 2: but they did. They had an eleven win season. Here

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Speaker 2: think the same thing's gonna happen to the Chargers. I

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Speaker 2: have a lot of faith in Jim Harbaugh. He knows

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Speaker 2: surprised if you're a Charger fan saying, all right, we

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Speaker 2: You know we're gonna start filling up all these spots.

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Speaker 3: Get better. My guess is the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Take a step back in twenty twenty five before moving

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Speaker 4: I could see that it's possible, But also look at

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Speaker 4: what Jim harp has done trajectory wise over the span

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Speaker 4: They lost their quarterback early in that season, but.

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Speaker 3: They were already losing games before he went down.

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: Seven to three now, Broncos lead the Bills six and

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Speaker 2: you began your career in the New England Patriots organization.

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Speaker 2: And I've said this many times about New England's success

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Speaker 2: The New England Patriots made a mistake in hiring a

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Speaker 2: Football League. Did he do some good things, obviously, but

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Speaker 2: The timing was too soon to handle being the head

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel for Jerrod Girod.

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Speaker 4: Mayo was one of my teammates in New England for

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Speaker 1: And also, you know, Coach Belichick really trusted him.

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Speaker 4: You know, he had him in his hip pocket basically,

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Speaker 4: You literally are responsible of every single decision from top

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope he gets another opportunity so I can

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Speaker 2: Obviously another guy, you know, I mean Mike Vrabel when

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Speaker 2: Though, I mean that that roster is so thin, and

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're Robert Kraft, You're like, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: What's that?

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Speaker 2: And when they heard the voice first voice of Monte Belangos.

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Speaker 2: They said, no better voice to hear first.

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Speaker 3: Than that of the beloved Monte Blogos.

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Speaker 6: Well, I was supposed to be here, so you know.

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Speaker 1: But thank you, thank you, Steve.

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Speaker 6: Yeah no, it was a weird twelve hours of nothing.

445
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Speaker 3: It was a weird day. Call weet how to understand this?

446
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: So she came in, she did four hours of updates

447
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Speaker 2: right before our two hour show, and of course the

448
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 2: Chargers game is on the entire show.

449
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Speaker 1: That we're on.

450
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Speaker 3: So it was a great day.

451
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Speaker 2: And she's sitting there decked out in her Charger gear

452
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Speaker 2: and a game that everyone expected the Chargers to win,

453
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Speaker 2: they were favored.

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Speaker 3: Just yeah, no, I can't integra Rich.

455
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Speaker 6: I can't say the things that I feel on radio,

456
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Speaker 6: you know, based on that performance. Like I'm legally not

457
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Speaker 6: allowed to say what I want to say.

458
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Speaker 4: But yeah, you from sharing your thoughts.

459
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Speaker 3: Exactly like my true thoughts and feelings.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'll have to tell you in person, but

461
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Speaker 6: I just I it was a quite quite I felt

462
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Speaker 6: bamboozled based on how the Chargers started the game to

463
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Speaker 6: how they ended the game.

464
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Speaker 7: I was like, you guys made me feel so good

465
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Speaker 7: to start the game, and now I feel so bad,

466
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Speaker 7: So thank you for that. But the Nickelodeon broadcast was

467
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Speaker 7: just confusing as af, you know what I'm saying. I

468
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 7: was like, why is there all these creatures on my screen?

469
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Speaker 3: I had never seen a Nickelodeon broadcast. Why are all

470
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Speaker 3: these creatures always?

471
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That was which is what I couldn't get over.

473
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Speaker 6: I was like, is this was?

474
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Speaker 3: I can't I didn't know this was like that.

475
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Speaker 2: Well, we had two TVs with the Nickelodeon of the

476
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Speaker 2: regular broadcasts. Yeah, but you know, every time that SpongeBob

477
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Speaker 2: and Patrick showed up on the screen, you know, we

478
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Speaker 2: wanted to know what their commentary I did.

479
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Speaker 6: And then the cat Dog was like the ten you know,

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Speaker 6: I just was like, Wow, there's a lot of war

481
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Speaker 6: going on to this production that I was unaware of.

482
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Speaker 6: H Let's check in on Buffalo the Bills. In the

483
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Speaker 6: Broncos on the opening drive, they looked like Denver knew

484
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Speaker 6: exactly what they were doing. Five plays, Bonicks with a

485
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Speaker 6: forty three yard touchdown pass to Troy Franklin. Then in

486
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Speaker 6: the Bills opening drive they got a field goal out

487
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Speaker 6: of it. Denver went back out there but three and out,

488
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Speaker 6: So the Bills have the ball once again with about

489
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Speaker 6: one minute to go in the first quarter, and they

490
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Speaker 6: are at Denver's twenty eight yard line, so they're approaching

491
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Speaker 6: the red zone trying to score again. But right now

492
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Speaker 6: Denver is up seven to three. Bonicks three of three

493
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Speaker 6: sixty four yards and a touchdown Josh Allen five of

494
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Speaker 6: eight for thirty eight yards. We've got some college hoops

495
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Speaker 6: going on right now as well. Number sixteen Michigan State

496
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Speaker 6: beating Northwestern fifty eight to forty one with about eleven

497
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Speaker 6: minutes to go in the game. And Nebraska is losing

498
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Speaker 6: to Number twenty per Due ninety two to sixty with

499
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Speaker 6: about five minutes to go in that one. And lastly,

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Speaker 6: here's something we're gonna have to keep an eye on

501
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Speaker 6: the next couple of weeks. In hockey, last night, the

502
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Speaker 6: Capitals beat the Predators four to one. Alex Nozovechkin hit

503
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Speaker 6: or hit a home run, scored a goal. He is

504
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Speaker 6: now twenty one goals shy of tying when Gretzky's record

505
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Speaker 6: of eight hundred and ninety four, So getting close, getting close.

506
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you, though, the record that will never be

507
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Speaker 2: broken is Gretzky's overall points record. Yes, yes, because he

508
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Speaker 2: had well over one thousand assists in his career. So

509
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Speaker 2: but the goals scored, I mean, even Gretzki has acknowledged

510
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Speaker 2: he thought there could be a time when someone could

511
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Speaker 2: approach that record.

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Speaker 3: In Novechkin is definitely on him.

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Speaker 1: He's on it.

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Speaker 6: He was hurt to this season, so he missed a

515
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Speaker 6: chunk of games, but he's back in there. He's twenty

516
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Speaker 6: one goal shy.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, all right, great stuff. Monzi, as always, was checking.

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Speaker 2: With you a little bit later on once again Red

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Speaker 2: Zone ra video.

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Speaker 3: Here Steve Hartbin and Rich Orenberger with you.

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Speaker 2: So yesterday the Baltimore Ravens made quick work of the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: and you know, Rich, we talked about coaching changes for

523
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Speaker 2: the gooder, for the better, for the worse of a team.

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Speaker 2: Here is a fact, Mike Tomlin is Owen six in

525
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Speaker 2: his last six playoff games. So Mike Tomlin obviously has

526
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Speaker 2: this amazing record and his ticket is secure for Canton, Ohio.

527
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 2: Eighteen years in the NFL, has never had a losing season.

528
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Speaker 2: That is a remarkable record and good enough to obviously

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Speaker 2: guarantee him a spot in the Hall of Fame. But

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Speaker 2: Rich Owen six in his last six playoff games, and

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Speaker 2: they finished this season on a four game losing streak

532
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Speaker 2: and then added a fifth consecutive loss in the playoff

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Speaker 2: game against the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: So what do you do?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you just say, well, I mean, this guy

536
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 2: still knows how to win more games than he loses.

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Speaker 2: He knows how to get the team at least into

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. But you're talking about a Steeler franchise with

539
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Speaker 2: six Super Bowl trophies.

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Speaker 3: You know that's their standard winning super Bowls.

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Speaker 2: And well it's been let's put it this way, sixteen

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Speaker 2: years since they won their last super Bowl, which was

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin's second year as a head coach. Do you

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Speaker 2: stay with Tomlin? He's still a young guy. He's in

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Speaker 2: his fifties. Remember he was in his thirties when he

546
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Speaker 2: got this job. Franchise that's only had three coaches since

547
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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine since Man walked on the moon for

548
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Speaker 2: the first time, three head coaches. Or do you just

549
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Speaker 2: ride it out with Tomlin and hope he catches fire

550
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Speaker 2: in the postseason, or do you think about maybe we

551
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Speaker 2: need somebody new, because just getting to the postseason and

552
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Speaker 2: losing that first game is not good enough.

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Speaker 3: For this franchise.

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Speaker 4: Let me put it to you this way. I think,

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Speaker 4: excuse me, Mike Tomlin is unfirable. And here's the reason why.

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Speaker 4: Look at the quarterbacks he has been asked to do

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Speaker 4: this job with over the past few seasons. And name

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Speaker 4: another coach who can make it to the postseason with

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Speaker 4: any level of consistency. The answer is Mike Tomlin. And

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Speaker 4: that's about it. Mike Tomlin's a special coach. He's a

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Speaker 4: great organizer. He's a players coach who's not afraid to

562
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Speaker 4: tell people where they stand. But all players love to

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Speaker 4: play with him. He's handled a ton of controversies that

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Speaker 4: rude inside of his own locker room and kept that bay.

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Speaker 4: And you know how bad they were getting because when

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Speaker 4: either one or both of the players have left organization,

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Speaker 4: it's like all of the bad stuff comes out after

568
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Speaker 4: the Like you started hearing how bad after the fact.

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Speaker 4: That means you have a button up operation, Like when

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Speaker 4: when players they they they refuse to disobey you while

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Speaker 4: they're playing for you, but afterward you hear how poisonous

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Speaker 4: maybe there was in the locker room, or you hear

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Speaker 4: about how tumultual, tumultuous, the experience may have been that

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Speaker 4: stuff doesn't see the light of day when those players

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Speaker 4: are playing for the Steelers, which which means that he's

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Speaker 4: a no nonsense guy and he notes how to lead.

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Speaker 4: Yeah what, here's what you fix the Steelers. Get them

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Speaker 4: a better quarterback. I'm so tired of people coming after

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Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin and not coming after the pro personnel people.

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Speaker 1: Or the college.

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Speaker 3: All right, well let me let me stop you right with.

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Speaker 1: The personnel people. You gotta get them a better quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, well, okay, all right. Easier said than done.

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Speaker 3: Here's the problem.

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Speaker 2: When you're in the playoffs every year, you're not getting

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Speaker 2: a high draft pick, so you're not gonna get a

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Speaker 2: quarterback a high draft pick quarterback, so that's out of

588
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Speaker 2: the equation because you continue to win more games than

589
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Speaker 2: you lose. So you brought into you brought in two

590
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks this year and early in the season Justin Fields

591
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Speaker 2: had some moments, then it went sideways, and Russell Wilson

592
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Speaker 2: had some moments and then it won sideways. So I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna give you three options at quarterback for twenty twenty five.

594
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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, or Kirk Cousins. Are any of

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Speaker 2: those guys going to suddenly ignite a fire that's going

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Speaker 2: to take the Steelers beyond just making it into the

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Speaker 2: postseason or just having a winning record.

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Speaker 4: You're you're talking about two guys who over the past

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Speaker 4: couple of seasons have had dalliances being considered top ten

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks and a guy who may never be a top

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Speaker 4: ten quarterback. So Justin Fields may never be a top

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Speaker 4: ten quarterback in this league. And Kirk Cousins and Russell

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Speaker 4: Wilson have both been fringe guys in that conversation, maybe

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Speaker 4: twelfth best, maybe fifteenth best. You know, those are the

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Speaker 4: type of guys they are and have been for the

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Speaker 4: majority of the latter half of their careers. The answer

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Speaker 4: is no, none of those three fix it. So you're

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Speaker 4: gonna need a personnel guy in that room at some

609
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Speaker 4: point to stand on his desk, to beat the desk

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Speaker 4: with his shoe and say we need to trade up

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Speaker 4: to get this quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He is going to be our future.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if Tomlin is standing in the

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Speaker 4: way of somebody doing that. I don't know if there's

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Speaker 4: been a general manager who can stand up to Mike

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Speaker 4: Tomlin in those conversations who can get them ahead on

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Speaker 4: the draft board to take a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But that's what it takes.

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Speaker 4: When Mike Tomlin, when the Steelers were at their best recently,

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Speaker 4: and when I say recently, I mean over the past

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Speaker 4: fifteen years ago or so, it's been when Ben Roethlisberger

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Speaker 4: was healthy and playing well. Because he's a great quarterback.

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Speaker 4: He's a great quarterback. The Steelers need to have something

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Speaker 4: that resembles a great quarterback. And Cousins, Wilson and Fields

625
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Speaker 4: at this point are not answers to that question.

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Speaker 2: I agree one hundred percent. None of those quarterbacks is

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Speaker 2: going to take you next level. I'll tell you who

628
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: did take Buffalo next level. James Cook is in the

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Speaker 2: end zone with a rushing touchdown and the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 2: have taken the lead after spotting the Broncos the early

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Speaker 2: seven to nothing advantage, winning on the extra point. The

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Speaker 2: extra point is good ten to seven Buffalo right now,

633
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Speaker 2: thirteen minutes ago in the first half. So the Bills

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Speaker 2: again big favors to win this game at home today.

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Speaker 2: I think a little shell shock when bow Nick's connected

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Speaker 2: on that early touchdown pass Detroy Franklin.

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Speaker 3: But right now, Buffalo getting that offense rolling all right.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, we're going to get into the

639
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Speaker 2: Ravens after their big win yesterday against Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: Could this be the year that.

641
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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson finally reaches the promised Land.

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Speaker 3: We'll break it down. This is Red Zone Radio, all right, right.

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Speaker 2: Now, Buffalo leading the Broncos ten to seven. We got

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Speaker 2: eleven minutes to go in the first half, and Denver

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Speaker 2: after that opening drive resulted in a touchdown, trying to

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Speaker 2: get something going offensively. They got a third and eight

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Speaker 2: right now and they are nearing midfield. Bo Nicks trying

648
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Speaker 2: to make a play and he doesn't almost intercept it,

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Speaker 2: so they're going to have to punt the ball back

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Speaker 2: to Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: All Right, We've been sort of talking about what's.

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Speaker 2: Happened yesterday with the two wins, the Texans dominating went

653
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Speaker 2: over the Chargers and an equally dominating win for the

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Speaker 2: Ravens over the Steelers. So yesterday Rich the Associated Press

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Speaker 2: announced they're all Pro team. And what was interesting was

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Speaker 2: the voting for quarterbacks. So there are fifty votes. Thirty

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Speaker 2: three went to Lamar Jackson, fifteen to Josh Allen, two

658
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: to Joe Burrow, and again when you look at Lamar

659
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: Jackson's numbers forty one touchdowns, four interceptions, over nine hundred

660
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: yards rushing, hard to argue, and based on the All

661
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: Pro vote, Lamar Jackson will win his third MVP award

662
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: that'll be announced the week prior to the Super Bowl yesterday,

663
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: sixteen of twenty one hundred and seventy five yards, two touchdown,

664
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Speaker 2: no picks, fifteen carries eighty one yards. Oh, and then

665
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: we had a fake punt by Denver. By Denver and

666
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: they've converted. So the punter threw an absolutely perfect pass

667
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: by the way, Wow, down the field, perfect pass, and

668
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 2: so the Denver Broncos we could get the first down

669
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Speaker 2: at the forty two yard line of the Buffalo Bills.

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00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: Wow, that was a nice pass the Broncos.

671
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Speaker 1: And this is Sean Peyton.

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Speaker 4: All season long, they've had a couple of special teams

673
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 4: plays up their sleeves where you're watching these games, and

674
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 4: I mean they're not always conversion situations. Ra they're like, oh, well,

675
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: you know, that makes sense. It was fourth in real short,

676
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 4: you know, so to go for a fake punt, They're like,

677
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 4: some of these, some of these fakes, some of these

678
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 4: decisions come when the defense is sleeping, and they definitely

679
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 4: caught Buffalo there with their shoes tied together.

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Speaker 1: That was impressive.

681
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 2: By the way, they just showed the on side kick

682
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: that his Saints had against the Colts and the Super

683
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: Bowl out of nowhere.

684
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 3: They're just showing it that when you.

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Speaker 2: Least expected, you should expect Sean Payton to try to

686
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Speaker 2: do something. Again, the Broncos being such big dogs, no

687
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: one expects him to win today. So what do you

688
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: have to lose, right, you gotta throw it out out there.

689
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: So but for the for the Baltimore Ravens, and I

690
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 2: mentioned Lamar Jackson's numbers and oh yeah, oh by the way,

691
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Speaker 2: Derek Henry twenty six carries hundred and eighty six yards

692
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Speaker 2: two touchdowns. Obviously he's made a significant impact on the team.

693
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Speaker 2: Rich we talk about this Buffalo team were watching, we

694
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: talk about the Baltimore Ravens on paper eyeball test. Both

695
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 2: these teams have looked better than the Kansas City Chiefs.

696
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: But they have to go through Kansas City in order

697
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: to get to the Super Bowl? Is it the Ravens?

698
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like Lamar Jackson cannot play any better

699
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: than he's playing right now. He has been phenomenal. Derek

700
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Speaker 2: Henry has been unreal this year. I mean, if not

701
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: this year, and then equal with the Buffalo Bills. These

702
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 2: two teams are better than Kansas City, but you still

703
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: got to figure out a way of beating Patrick Mahomes

704
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 2: and Andy Reid and that now mistique of the Chiefs

705
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: team that has won three Super Bowls, including back to back.

706
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: Is it time for one of these teams? And if so,

707
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: which one of these teams you get past the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: get to the Super Bowl and perhaps win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you look at the Ravens how they were

710
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Speaker 4: able to handle their opening round and the war that

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Speaker 4: Buffalo is in right now with the Broncos, I think

712
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Speaker 4: I'm leaning more Ravens at this point. Obviously, the low

713
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: seed is going to go to Kansas City, so that's

714
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Speaker 4: not yet decided.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if it's going.

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Speaker 4: To be the Bros the or the Houston Texans heading

717
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Speaker 4: the k And if it is the Broncos, that means

718
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Speaker 4: that it's most likely the Ravens in the AFC Championship

719
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 4: Game against the Chiefs. If it isn't the Broncos and

720
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Speaker 4: it's the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: It's a toss up.

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Speaker 4: I hope we're not robbed to see Bills versus Baltimore

723
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Speaker 4: in the divisional round.

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Speaker 1: I hope we're not. I hope we get to see

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Speaker 1: that game.

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Speaker 4: I hope the Bills pulled together and hang on and

727
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 4: win this game because I think that's the better matchup

728
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Speaker 4: in the next round.

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Speaker 3: Can Baltimore win at Buffalo?

730
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Speaker 2: Because if Baltimore and Buffalo win today, that divisional playoff

731
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Speaker 2: game will be in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 4: My answer is they absolutely can win a Buffalo. But

734
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Speaker 4: ken the Ravens or the Buffalo Bills win at Arrowhead

735
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Speaker 4: in the AFC Championship game, I don't know. I really

736
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Speaker 4: honestly don't know. I'm going to give you an answer today.

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Speaker 4: My answer is I don't think so. Because the Chiefs,

738
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 4: like you said, they have so much postseason experience. Whoever

739
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 4: they face is go is in for a really tough time.

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Speaker 1: Experience matters, Steve.

741
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Speaker 4: You know this in this sport, and the teams that

742
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 4: typically have the more experienced quarterback, the more experienced players

743
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 4: on their team who know how to hand these situations,

744
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 4: they typically have more sees.

745
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: But you have two very experienced postseason quarterbacks, they haven't

746
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: had the success. Obviously, Mahomes is out, but it's not

747
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: like Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson are new to the postseason.

748
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Speaker 3: They've been there every year.

749
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 4: No, but they've also been dispatched of the team we're talking,

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00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 4: well every year or in many of those years.

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00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I get the argument you're posing. But I mean,

752
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: if you were.

753
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Speaker 4: Gonna choose a team right now, knowing what we know

754
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 4: up to the moment, are you choosing anyone to beat

755
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 4: the Chiefs on the FC side?

756
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: Well, I've said this and I'm by the way, I'm

757
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: in locked up with you. Anyone that would bet against

758
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: the Chiefs that's insane.

759
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, why would you?

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00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: Why would you bet against the Chiefs when the quarterback

761
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: is fifteen to three in the postseason. All Right, we're

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Speaker 2: live from the ti iraq dot com studios.

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Speaker 3: We got a.

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Speaker 2: Game going on now, we got other games coming up

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Speaker 2: later on today, and we got it all covered.

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Speaker 3: This is Red.

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Speaker 2: Zone Radio rolling along here on this NFL Wild Card

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Speaker 2: Bills are leading the Broncos, but it's only ten to seven.

776
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 2: Those were a healthy nine and a half point favorite

777
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Speaker 2: going into this game.

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Speaker 3: Broncos struck first.

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Speaker 2: On a forty three hour touchdown pass from Bownicks to

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Speaker 2: Troy Franklin. Bills of answer back with ten the Broncos

781
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: after the fake punt, we're not able to advanced the ball.

782
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: They punted and it was down at the one yard line.

783
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: The Bill's been trying to get out of that hole.

784
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: They've gotten the ball up to the forty yard line.

785
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: So we're inside three minutes to go right now in

786
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: the first half, and Buffalo is still leading this game

787
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: by a score of at ten to seven. So while

788
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: we watched this game, Rich, we're talking about some of

789
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: the teams that made some moves already in the offseason.

790
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: Last week we were speculating which teams were going to

791
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: make changes. One of the teams that was very easy

792
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Speaker 2: to predict was the Raiders and Toni A.

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Speaker 3: Piers.

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Speaker 2: Let go now, Initially they said Tom Telesco would be retained,

795
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: and then two days later Tom hit the road. By

796
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: the way, you know, here's the problem for Tom Telesco.

797
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 2: So on January nine, twenty thirteen, he was hired as

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Speaker 2: the general manager of the then San Diego Chargers. And

799
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: the problem for a guy like Telasco is he set

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Speaker 2: the bar high because the first significant move he made

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Speaker 2: with the Chargers as general manager on March twenty second,

802
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Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, was signed Rich Ormberger as a free agent.

803
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: So when you when I mean that was like his

804
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: first move, right he began the general manager of the

805
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: Chargers are like, all right, what do we need to do?

806
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: And he goes, we've got to get Ormberger out of Arizona.

807
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: They're misusing him and put him in a Charger uniform.

808
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: But that's the.

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Speaker 2: Probably set the bar high, yeah, too hot. After that

810
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: kind of a move, what do you do for an encore?

811
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Speaker 2: So Telsco one and done as general manager of the Raiders,

812
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: and so now it's a do over again from Mark

813
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: Davis and the Raider organization and ultimately they decide to

814
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: get rid of Telesco because they feel like, well, the

815
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: GM sort of has to go with the coach.

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00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: You know they did that with Josh Daniels, right, I

817
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 3: mean he started It's a package deal.

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Speaker 2: But there's a little difference this time because now you

819
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: got Tom Brady in the mix. What do you expect

820
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 2: to happen with the Las Vegas Raiders And how much

821
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: influence will the hiring of the general manager, the hiring

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Speaker 2: the coach, the direction of this team have now that

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00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: Tom Brady is in the mix.

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Speaker 4: I think that when Tom Brady took over all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden or I shouldn't say took over, but join

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Speaker 4: the Raiders as an executive from the standpoint.

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Speaker 1: Of the ownership group, that.

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Speaker 4: Was going to have ripple effects that we weren't going.

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Speaker 1: To forecast in some ways.

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Speaker 4: But the ones that you can forecast, the ones that

831
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 4: you knew were coming, was that it was going to

832
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 4: be a much tighter ship. There's no chance that Tom

833
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 4: Brady's going to slap his name on something that isn't

834
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Speaker 4: well organized and doesn't feel like it has a chance

835
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Speaker 4: for success. Everything, literally, everything he's done has had a

836
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Speaker 4: very tom Brady stamp on it. I mean, is everything

837
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Speaker 4: he does like super fun and wacky and whoa like

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00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 4: you know this is exciting. No, some of the things

839
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 4: aren't as sexy, but they're effective and they're practical and

840
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 4: they work. You know, the fitness industry stuff that he's

841
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Speaker 4: done with, you know, the protein powders and the workout

842
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 4: bands and the lifestyle plan all that. It's very regimented,

843
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 4: very organized. The clothing brand is it is clothing brand.

844
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 4: It's a clothing brand that's supposed to look good on

845
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Speaker 4: you while you're working out or when you're stepping into

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Speaker 4: meetings with high level people, right, Like, that's the whole

847
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 4: goal with everything he's done on the field as a player,

848
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Speaker 4: everything he's done off the.

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Speaker 1: Field as a broadcaster.

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Speaker 4: If there's only been one complaint of Tom Brady in

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Speaker 4: the broadcast booth is he's a little wooden.

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Speaker 1: He's a little robotic, Right.

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Speaker 3: He's a little too technical. He's got to lighten up

854
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean people, the reason that John Madden was

856
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: a superstar as a broadcast.

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00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 3: There was he was relatable.

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00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 4: Right.

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00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: Tom Brady looks like artificial intelligence on camera.

860
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: He doesn't even look human. He's that, you know, perfect

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00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 3: in every way.

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Speaker 4: And that's my point is, is this guy who exudes

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00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 4: perfection to put in a word, I think that's perfectly stated.

864
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 4: Who exudes perfection, especially when it comes to football. Why

865
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Speaker 4: should we guess that he's going to allow Mark Davis

866
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Speaker 4: or those around him to run this thing any other

867
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Speaker 4: way other than organized. He's going to bring in more

868
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Speaker 4: organized people. This is going to be a much tighter ship.

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Speaker 4: And so I'm not saying Tom Telasco isn't an organized

870
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Speaker 4: guy or didn't you know, have talent selecting players. But

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Speaker 4: you know what Tom Brady's gonna do. He's going to

872
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 4: hire people who he trusts, and he's going to surround

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Speaker 4: the Raiders with people who he feel can live up

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Speaker 4: to the.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady way.

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Speaker 4: And the tom Brady way is about being organized, about success,

877
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 4: and about working a program that works.

878
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: All right, So then he brings back Josh dan and

879
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: David Ziegler. I mean, these are two guys he knows, right.

880
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm telling you right now, I wouldn't be

881
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 4: surprised if one or both of those names had some

882
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 4: sort of role in the operation.

883
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: You're talking about getting people that he trust, right, and

884
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: he certainly trusts Josh Daniels, Josh mcdannel, Josh McDaniels and

885
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: then he also obviously trusts a guy like Ziegeler with

886
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 2: his background with the Patriots organization.

887
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 3: So McDaniel Ziegler, Well, I.

888
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: Think we're making a lot of assumptions about current relationship.

889
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you're just talking.

890
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know why the current relationship, but I

891
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: mean he certainly had a great rapport with Josh McDaniels.

892
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 4: Yes, And I also know that Josh McDaniels was Belichick's hire.

893
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: So here's the thing.

894
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 4: If he's going to hire, for example, Bill Belichick, you know,

895
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: or if he's going to bring in people from the

896
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 4: old Patriots regime, some of those people are gonna walk

897
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 4: through the door.

898
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: Okay, do you really seriously believe there's any chance that

899
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, after signing the five your fifty million dollars

900
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: deal North Carolina is going to back out of the

901
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: deal immediately and take the Raiders job.

902
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: You think there's a chance.

903
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: Yes, I do think there's jets I do you do not?

904
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: You don't think?

905
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: You don't see a future where Belichick with the Raiders

906
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: is a part of that?

907
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: Well, why did he sign with North Carolina?

908
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: Because we're also hearing there are other NFL teams that

909
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: might be interested in talking to Belichick. Why was he

910
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: so anxious to sign that deal at North Carolina Because

911
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: if he does.

912
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 4: Leave, coaches want to coach. Why did he sign with

913
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 4: the Jets if his plans were.

914
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: To he had no faith that there wasn't going to

915
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: be a single offer in the NFL. I'm just saying,

916
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 2: especially with Tom Brady and the Raiders organization.

917
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 4: Coaches want to coach. And so if you are coach

918
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 4: and your your aim is to coach, and you had

919
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: this gap year where you're doing this media circuit and

920
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 4: you're not loving it, which we don't know.

921
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: He may have really enjoyed it, but.

922
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 4: Said to himself, eh, you know what, but I belong

923
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 4: with a whistle around my neck.

924
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: Or maybe he hated it the whole way. I don't know.

925
00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: He seemed like he was enjoying it.

926
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: The North Carolina job was his quote dream job.

927
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I bet you his next dream when he

928
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 4: goes down he lays on his North Carolina tar heels

929
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 4: pillow is to get back into the NFL. And so

930
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 4: if that dream becomes a reality sooner rather than.

931
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: The North a Vegas job, was that a good job?

932
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: Do you think of what Mark Davis is still technically

933
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: the owner. I mean, how many coaches has he gone

934
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: through since he took over for his late father.

935
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 3: It's been mind blowing.

936
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 4: Oh I know, oh, I know, there's been no consistency

937
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 4: at the top of that program for a long time.

938
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 3: To answer those qu not Robert Kraft, Let's put it

939
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 3: that way.

940
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 4: To answer those questions separately, just for a moment, Would

941
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 4: he want the Raiders job on its face?

942
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: Yes, historic program?

943
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 4: Obviously, we know Belichick has a predilection for history. He

944
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 4: loves the history of the game, NFL films, all that stuff.

945
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 4: He's contributed a mind boggling amount of time to helping

946
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 4: them with with you know, filling blanks and gaps in

947
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 4: you know, the NFL history because he and his father

948
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 4: steve their their NFL historians what he was all about

949
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 4: growing up with his dad. And he's taken the mantle

950
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 4: since now. So to go to the other question though,

951
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 4: would he be the raiders next head coach? Here's the

952
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 4: one caveat to all of this. Are there patriot ties

953
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 4: in New England? Yes, obviously Tom Brady's you know stance

954
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 4: being an owner there absolutely helps you connect those dots.

955
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: But would he want to go.

956
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 4: From being Tom Brady's employer to tom Brady's employee.

957
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 2: That's a question I'm not sure I know the answer to. Again,

958
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: it begins at the top. And like I said, it's nothing.

959
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: I've known Mark Davis for over forty years and there's

960
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 2: a lot to admire about Mark Davis. I know there's

961
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: a lot to just look at him and belittle him.

962
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: And I've always said this about Mark Davis. Do not

963
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: sell him short. He will figure out certain things. His

964
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 2: business sense is better than his father's was. And obviously

965
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 2: bringing Tom Brady into the mix is good pr for

966
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 2: the Vegas Raiders. But it really comes down to somebody

967
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: has to have finals say in that organization. Is Mark

968
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 2: Davis willing to relinquish that to Tom Brady? And Tom

969
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,959
Speaker 2: Brady the goat quarterback, does that necessarily mean that he's

970
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: the right guy to make the decisions moving forward for

971
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: this Raiders organization? Right now, I am looking up and

972
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: is it true? The Denver Broncos have the ball, so

973
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills had to punt the ball away, So

974
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: a minute fifty two to go in the first half,

975
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: Denver takes over right now, trailing the Bills, by a

976
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: score of a ten to seven. We continue on not

977
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: only watching this game, We're gonna get you ready for

978
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 2: the other games today. Packers at the Eagles, Commanders at

979
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: the Buccaneers, and we're talking about an already busy offseason

980
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: around the National Football League.

981
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: This is Red Zone Radio once.

982
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: Again Red Zone Radio live from the tiraq dot Com studios.

983
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: So the Denver Broncos piece together are pretty decent. Drive

984
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: right before the half five seconds to go, Well, what's

985
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,479
Speaker 2: fifty yard field goal?

986
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 3: And he hit the upright, no good.

987
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: So the Buffalo Bill's going in the half with a

988
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 2: ten to seven lead. The Broncos defense has done a

989
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: heck of a job so far. Some of the numbers

990
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 2: rich on this game. Bo nicks eight of twelve, hundred

991
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: and two yards and a touchdown, so not a lot there.

992
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 2: The running game, they got forty four yards on the ground.

993
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 2: The Bills have one hundred and twenty eight yards rushing

994
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: in the first half. But Josh Allen has done really

995
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: nothing through the air nine to twelve, only sixty nine

996
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 2: yards passing in this game. So the Bills came out running.

997
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: It's cold, but it's always cold in Buffalo. We don't

998
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: have that kind of you know, novelty for Buffalo the

999
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: month of January. But I think that the Broncos have to,

1000
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: even though they miss this field goal, have to be

1001
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: feeling pretty good about themselves that they're only trailing ten

1002
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: to seven at the half.

1003
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

1004
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 4: I mean keeping this game within one score for the

1005
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: Buffalo or excuse me, for the Broncos, I mean that

1006
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 4: is that is the aim. I mean, just be within

1007
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 4: striking distance. That's all you can ask for. But if

1008
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 4: at any point you can lead, I mean, now you're

1009
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 4: talking about that, that's a free space on the Bengo board.

1010
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 4: So Sean Payton bow knicks. They put together a real

1011
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 4: nice game plan together. You can see that he's very

1012
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 4: much so in control during their passing downs. He's not

1013
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 4: doing too much. He knows exactly where to go with

1014
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 4: the football. If the Plan A isn't open, he's seamlessly

1015
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 4: you know, looking at Plan b's going through his rout

1016
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 4: route concepts and when it's not there, he's not making

1017
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 4: mistakes and he's getting protection. Also, this has been a

1018
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 4: very good offense game planned so far.

1019
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 2: All right, So while halftime is going on in this game,

1020
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: let's get ready for the next game up as the

1021
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles are going to host the Green Bay Packers,

1022
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: and the big question mark going into this game is

1023
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 2: the well being of both starting quarterbacks. So Jalen Hurts

1024
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: two week layoff with that concussion and he returned.

1025
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 3: And so far the reports are good.

1026
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: He looks sharp. He seems to be one hundred percent.

1027
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: We'll see when the game starts. We're not quite as

1028
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 2: sure about Jordan Love now. He of course hurt the

1029
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: elbow in the regular season finale. It's still sore limited practice,

1030
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 2: and let's be realistic here. The Green Bay Packers, of course,

1031
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: remember what happened last year when they went into Dallas

1032
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: against a favored Cowboys team and blew them out of

1033
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 2: the building. Again, they're dogs in this game against the Egos,

1034
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: But if they're going to win this game in Philadelphia,

1035
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: rich they're going to have to get the kind of

1036
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: game out of Jordan Love that they got last year

1037
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: in the playoffs in Dallas.

1038
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: So here's the problem for Jordan Love.

1039
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 4: He's banged up and they just lost Christian Watson and

1040
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 4: that looms large over the Packers. You look at Jalen

1041
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 4: Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles. They were still effective even

1042
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 4: when Hurts went down because of the immense impact that

1043
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 4: Sakuon Barkley has had on their offensive performances, and that

1044
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 4: Philadelphia defense isn't to be trifled.

1045
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 3: With either number one in the NFL.

1046
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 4: So you look at this matchup and I'm not saying,

1047
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 4: oh goodness, gracious, like the Packers, they're just gonna get

1048
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 4: mopped up here, because we know it's the NFL postseason,

1049
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 4: and we know how variable any given Sunday, Monday, Saturday

1050
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 4: Sunday can be for any of these teams.

1051
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying it's a.

1052
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 4: Fade out complete for the Eagles advancing here. But this

1053
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 4: sets up, you know, more than marginally well for the

1054
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 4: Eagles to get a by.

1055
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: The way history made and again a little bit with

1056
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: the asterisk because of the expanded seventeen game season, but

1057
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: we've never had a wild card matchup with two teams

1058
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 2: combined with twenty five wins. So you know, the Eagles

1059
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: at fourteen and three and the Packers at eleven and

1060
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: six in a wild card week game that has never

1061
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: happened in NFL history.

1062
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 3: Let's bring on bo right now.

1063
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: Is he will help break in our thoughts on the Eagles,

1064
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: who obviously are a much different looking Eagles team that

1065
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: was in a free fall last season then of course

1066
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 2: got destroyed by Tampa in the playoffs, and it was

1067
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: really no surprise that happened. Eagle's playing some really good

1068
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 2: football at the end of the season, which your since

1069
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: right now, assuming that Jalen Hurts is one hundred percent

1070
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: on the Eagles destiny in this postseason.

1071
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 8: And more Saquon, that's pretty much how it goes. I

1072
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 8: think if they're going to go as far as he's

1073
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 8: going to take him.

1074
00:55:58,960 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: Well, he is well rested.

1075
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: It as it's that offensive line after sitting out that

1076
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 2: final game against the Giants unfortunately.

1077
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 8: I think the unhralded part of that team, though, is

1078
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 8: their defense. Their defense is actually really good this.

1079
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 3: Year number one.

1080
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, so we'll see. I think it's kind of funny

1081
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 8: Jordan Love basically did the same thing that Brock Perdy

1082
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 8: did a couple years ago when he tore his UCL

1083
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 8: and nobody wants to talk about that because I don't know, Like,

1084
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 8: I wouldn't be shocked at all if it comes out

1085
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 8: that Jordan Love needs reconstructive surgery after the seasons over.

1086
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 8: He basically did exactly what perty did. So we'll see

1087
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 8: what happens with the game today.

1088
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say you're talking about a lot of

1089
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley.

1090
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna see a lot of Josh Jacobs.

1091
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, thank you, Yeah, you know.

1092
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: I think that for both of these teams, the running

1093
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Speaker 2: game is essential, and you've got two of the premium

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Speaker 2: running backs. Obviously in the National Football League, it could

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Speaker 2: come down to that Rich I mean Jacobs, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean obviously with Saquon in the two thousand yard season

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Speaker 2: well chronicled.

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Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs had over thirteen und yards for the Packers

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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a huge difference in that offense, no

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Speaker 2: question about that.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to say it's the same impact, but

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Speaker 4: similar impact. You have Jacobs joining the Packers, you have

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Speaker 4: Henry joining the Baltimore Ravens, you have Saquon joining the Eagles.

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00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 4: Notice any similarities big time running backs jumping ship on

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Speaker 4: an old squad joining a new squad having an immediate

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Speaker 4: and enormous impact on their chances for success. All three

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Speaker 4: of those teams I mentioned playoff teams. One of those

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Speaker 4: teams with a playoff win under their belt already, and

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Speaker 4: Derek Henry looked unstoppable. So yeah, to your both of

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Speaker 4: your points, I think Jacobs is going to be a

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Speaker 4: huge part.

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Speaker 1: Of this story.

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Speaker 4: The unfortunate reality is if if Love does have bad

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Speaker 4: as bad of an injury as perty, if he does

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Speaker 4: need more work on this knee, and he's been staving

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Speaker 4: this off all season long. Remember he started this season

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Speaker 4: with with an mcl streen, so there could be more

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Speaker 4: issues there with that knee and instability with that them

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Speaker 4: we're even aware of. This could be a very lopsided

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Speaker 4: game for the Philadelphia Eagles if they can get out,

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Speaker 4: especially if they can get out to an early lead

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Speaker 4: and force the Packers into must pass situations.

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Speaker 1: That's what I would do. I would try to put

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Speaker 1: together the best offensive script.

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Speaker 4: I would pull no punches. I would even get a

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Speaker 4: little exotic, maybe a little dangerous. Throw a couple of

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Speaker 4: things out there that the Packers haven't seen yet, that

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Speaker 4: nobody has seen out of our playbook yet. Get an

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Speaker 4: early score on the ball on the board, because I

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Speaker 4: think the Packers.

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Speaker 1: Are going to have a hard time chasing points.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, when you look at how this Packer

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Speaker 2: team has played over the last couple of years. Best

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Speaker 2: move they ever made saying bye bye to Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Last year, the Packers were the youngest team to win

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Speaker 2: a playoff game since the nineteen seventy merger. In fact,

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Speaker 2: they were the youngest team to make the playoffs since

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty and this year they're the second youngest team

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Speaker 2: to make the playoffs. Yea, a very young Packers team,

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Speaker 2: as they were able to you know, you know, and

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Speaker 2: this is the thing when when you talk about coaches

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Speaker 2: that aren't necessarily on the radar. You know, right now

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00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: we're talking about what Kevin O'Connell. You know, the Ludgs

1145
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: talk about him obviously with Jim Harbaugh and the job

1146
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: he's done. But you look at the two coaches in

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Speaker 2: this game, and if anything, I know that you know,

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Speaker 2: Bo loves to rip into Syriana. He's got two fourteen

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00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 2: win seasons on his resume, yeah, you know, and Matt

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Speaker 2: Floor I mean, wow, I mean, look at this guy's record.

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Speaker 2: These are two coaches that, for some reason, despite their

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Speaker 2: glowing records, don't seem to be in the conversation we

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Speaker 2: talk about premier coaches in this league.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you have to include a couple of these

1155
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 4: young coaches around. You know what, let's be very realistic

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00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 4: with each other. When you have a great quarterback that

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Speaker 4: checks a major box for you.

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Speaker 1: So let's not.

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Speaker 3: Do they have great quarterbacks?

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Speaker 2: I mean I didn't see these two quarterbacks on any

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Speaker 2: All Pro lists this year.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean when you have, okay.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts a great quarterback? Is Jordan Love a great quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts has already appeared in a Super Bowl? Okay, Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, but he's not Joe Burrow. He's on Josh Ally,

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Speaker 2: I get Mark Jackins.

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Speaker 3: I mean, where is he? Is he the top ten?

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Speaker 1: So let's let's call it very good.

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Speaker 4: So say you have a quarterback in the time, because

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Speaker 4: let's be honest with each other this and this is

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Speaker 4: the point you're kind of making my point for me.

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Speaker 3: If you have a quarterback, I do that a lot.

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Speaker 4: But you do, you absolutely, you absolutely do when you

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Speaker 4: have a quarterback who's in the top sixteen of this league. Right,

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Speaker 4: So we're talking about a top half quarterback, not great

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Speaker 4: to your point, not great Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 1: Do I think he's great?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 1: Because I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to put him in the conversation with

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Speaker 4: an Alan Lamar Jackson, A Burrow, etc. Patrick Mahomes obviously

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Speaker 4: in that list, But like, do I think that Jalen

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Speaker 4: Hurts is a really talented quarterback who can help you

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Speaker 4: win a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Games in this league? Yeah? Do I think he's a

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Speaker 1: top fifteen guy? Yeah? Well, guess what.

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Speaker 4: There are fourteen spots in the NFL playoffs now. So

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Speaker 4: if you have a top fifteen quarterback and you're vying

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Speaker 4: for one of those fourteen spots, you're getting a lot

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Speaker 4: of work done.

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Speaker 1: If you have a.

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Speaker 4: Guy like Jordan Love, a guy like CJ. Stroud, a

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Speaker 4: guy like Jalen Hurts, a guy like Jared Goff, and

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Speaker 4: Jared Goff is even getting closer and closer to that

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Speaker 4: greatness list that we're talking about, especially if he gets

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Speaker 4: a super Bowl win under his belt. We'll see if

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Speaker 4: he gets there, if he can get there, I digress.

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Speaker 4: My point though, is if you have a top fifteen quarterback,

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Speaker 4: you're sitting pretty in this NFL right now. Justin Herbert

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Speaker 4: throw his name on that list. You know, Brock Purdy

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Speaker 4: up until this season has played like one of those

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Speaker 4: top fifteen guys.

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Speaker 1: You know so, I'm I'm.

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Speaker 4: Telling you there are a lot of good young coaches there,

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Speaker 4: but if you look at who their quarterbacks are coaching,

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Speaker 4: it only goes as far as your quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Typically.

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Speaker 2: I think that I think in both these cases, and

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Speaker 2: this is no knock on the talent of either Jordan

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Speaker 2: Love or Jalen Hurts, the coaches that brought them success

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Speaker 2: are the coaches they have right now. Nick Sirianni's forty

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Speaker 2: eight and twenty is the coach of the Eagles, and

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Speaker 2: Matte Laflora sixty seven and thirty three is the coach

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Speaker 2: of the Packers.

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Speaker 1: And do you give more credit to?

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Speaker 2: I give it to the coaches. I give it in

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Speaker 2: both of these cases. Look what Matte laford took over.

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Speaker 2: Obviously had Aaron Rodgers approven Hall of Fame quarterback Jordan Love.

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Speaker 3: It was a nun no.

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Speaker 2: We didn't know if Jordan Love could actually get his

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Speaker 2: team to this level, but he has.

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Speaker 1: Who do you give more credit to? Sean mcdermotter, Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: Brian Dable.

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Speaker 2: By the way, by the way, we're gonna get to

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Speaker 2: David One been goodye.

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Speaker 1: He may be playing his best season after Dalls.

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Speaker 2: Again, I'm gonna give credit to every GI coach, credit

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Speaker 2: Oliver quarterbacks except for Tom Brady.

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady Minbella.

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Speaker 1: Isn't insane conversation.

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Speaker 3: Not an insane conversation.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to say, why do we not mention a

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Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni with a forty eight and twenty record or

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Speaker 2: a Matt la Florida of the sixty seven and thirty

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Speaker 2: three record. When we talk about the elite coaches in

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Speaker 2: the NFL and you're like, well, they have great quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, they got middle of the road quarterback, they

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Speaker 2: have top at what I said.

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Speaker 1: And I correct it.

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Speaker 2: They helped develop him into better quarterbacks, Top fifteen quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Jallen Hurts came out of a powerhouse program. Jordan Love

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01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 4: needed a little more development, but he had that opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Who develops one a Hall of fame quarterback?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, mat Hold you're telling me Aaron Rodgers

1245
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Speaker 2: barely gave him the time of day.

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Speaker 1: Rodgers was more impactful at Jordana.

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Speaker 2: Love saying that Aaron Rodgers was worried about Jordan No,

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Speaker 2: he didn't get because even he admitted, like he goes

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Speaker 2: now at this point of his career. He's willing to

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Speaker 2: be that guy to help develop a quarterback and try

1251
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Speaker 2: to save his job. We'll also get to that later on,

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Speaker 2: but first let's fight out what it's trending right now.

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Speaker 2: We are live from the tire rach dot com studios

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Speaker 2: with Monci Belagna.

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Speaker 3: See how it heated? It gets here? It does get heated. Well,

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Speaker 3: here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Normally on Red Zone Radio, we got seven or eight

1258
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: games going round and we're constantly having to update you

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Speaker 2: on the game.

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Speaker 6: Right, not the case, No, no, Now you can just

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Speaker 6: argue THEO. I enjoy it. We looked at each other

1262
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 6: at one point started laughing at you guys.

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Speaker 3: So it was good.

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Speaker 1: It was entertaining.

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Speaker 6: This game seemed to have been entertaining for a hot second.

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Speaker 6: I thought it was going to be a lot of

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Speaker 6: scoring back and forth. Denver scored on their opening drive

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Speaker 6: and haven't done much since. They did try to get

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Speaker 6: a fifty yard field going right before the half, but

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Speaker 6: it jointed off the right upright, and so the Bills

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Speaker 6: are up top ten to seven at the half. Josh

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Speaker 6: Allen nine of twelve, sixty nine yards, James Cook thirteen yards,

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Speaker 6: seventy eight thirteen carries seventy eight yards a touchdown. Bo

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Speaker 6: Nix eight of twelve, one hundred and yards and a touchdown.

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Speaker 6: So we'll see what the second half has in store,

1276
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 6: because lately we have been seeing a tale of.

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Speaker 3: Two different halfs between a lot of games.

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Speaker 6: So we'll see how this one ends. The Patriots have

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Speaker 6: found their new head coach, and it's Mike Vrabel. He

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Speaker 6: played eight seasons in New England, won three Super Bowls.

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Speaker 6: There is a member of the team's Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 6: The NFL Network reported that the Bears are interested in

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Speaker 6: interviewing Notre Dame head coach Marcus Freeman about their head

1284
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Speaker 6: coaching vacancy. He's obviously busy preparing for the Natty against

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Speaker 6: Ohio State, but when is it in like three months?

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Speaker 3: So maybe he has time to talk to them.

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Speaker 6: Maybe he has time. Guys, you guys were talking about

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Speaker 6: quarterbacks and who's gonna beware speaking about the Steelers. In

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Speaker 6: case you miss said, this is what Russell Wilson had

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Speaker 6: to say last night after the Steelers lost.

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Speaker 10: Pittsburgh Steelers organization, man has been such a blessing to

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Speaker 10: beg here the guys that we have organization as truly

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Speaker 10: first class. We love the city obviously, and what it

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Speaker 10: means we have special coach and coach Tom. We've got

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Speaker 10: a special organization, special people, special players, a special fan base.

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Speaker 10: So it's been a truly, truly a blessing in my life.

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Speaker 10: It's been one of the best years for me personally

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Speaker 10: to be a Pittsburgh Steeler. And obviously I hope I'm here.

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Speaker 10: I trust God and whatever that is, and love black

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Speaker 10: and gold and just what it means to me.

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Speaker 2: It sounds special, sounds special, brought a special rich. Are

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Speaker 2: we in agreement that Russell Wilson will not be a

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Speaker 2: Steeler next year?

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Speaker 4: I think so. I mean I think he'll He'll be

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Speaker 4: moving on from this team They've gotten, I believe, as

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01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 4: far as they possibly can with Russell Wilson, which is

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Speaker 4: a playoff berth and a playoff loss. I don't think

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Speaker 4: there's much left. You could try to shake that tree again.

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Speaker 4: I think you're gonna get hit in the head with

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Speaker 4: a branch.

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Speaker 6: I like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna steal that one.

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Speaker 3: College hoops can't going on right now.

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Speaker 6: Number twenty four Michigan on top of Washington four halfway

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Speaker 6: through the first half.

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Speaker 1: That was good.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, guys, alli On say thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you on that.

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01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson will not not be playing for the Steelers

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Speaker 2: and next season.

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields probably will be. He'll be sitting there.

1322
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: And they'll have to make a decision to see if

1323
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Speaker 2: they can develop it into the quarterback he and they

1324
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 2: hope he will be all right once again.

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Speaker 3: Red Zone Radio Steve Harbin and rich Orenberger with you.

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Speaker 2: So the second half now underway, fills with the ball

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01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: first and they have gotten a first down nearing midfield,

1328
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 2: leading the Broncos by a score of ten to seven.

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Speaker 2: And the meantime, we're talking about a lot of different things,

1330
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 2: including the games coming up later on today and tomorrow,

1331
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 2: and also all the changes that have been made. One

1332
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 2: coaching change that we thought was going to happen that

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Speaker 2: did not happen was the Brian Dables situation with the

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Speaker 2: Giants now again. Adam Kaplan rich Our Fox Sports Radio,

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01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: NFL insider told me last week, do not expect them

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01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 2: to fire, and he was right. They did not fire

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01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 2: Ryan Dabele doesn't make the situation any better, and maybe

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01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: they just got tired of firing coaches every two to

1339
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 2: three years. Because that's been the pattern ever since Tom

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01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 2: Coughlin left. So now what Okay, so you're gonna keep.

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Speaker 3: Dabel great.

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01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: The quarterback, he like Daniel Jones, doesn't play for the

1343
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 2: team anymore.

1344
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 3: So what are you doing? What is the next move

1345
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 3: for the New York Giants?

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01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 1: Boy?

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01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 4: You know, here's here's the promise that Dabell, whether he

1348
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 4: likes it or not, that Dabell gave Giants fans was

1349
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 4: that they were he was going to take Daniel Jones

1350
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 4: and do to him what he was able to do

1351
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 4: to Uh, to Josh Allen. Now that that promise obviously

1352
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 4: wasn't kept because Saquan had an injury laid in year

1353
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 4: and it didn't go so well for Daniel Jones, and

1354
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 4: in fact, they couldn't even keep him healthy because the

1355
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 4: offensive line was so poor and his decision making so

1356
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 4: slow that it looked like Actually it made it somewhat

1357
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 4: worse having Brian Daboles offense there because he wasn't really

1358
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 4: catching up to the speed of the game. He almost

1359
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 4: looked like a rookie who was just in over his head.

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01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 4: So here's the problem for Brian Dable. If the Giants

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Speaker 4: bring in a top tier quarterback and it's not going

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01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 4: well early in the season, they may get rid of

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01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 4: him before before he really has a chance to put

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01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 4: his imprint on this quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, are they going to draft a quarterback?

1366
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 2: I mean this this by the way, the Bills, by

1367
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: the way, just updated. The Bills have the ball down

1368
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 2: of the five yard line of the Broncos right now,

1369
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 2: so they are on the move. But I mean, it's

1370
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 2: so weird right now when you look at the order

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01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 2: of the draft right and I'm looking at draft predictions

1372
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 2: right now, we've been talking should or Sanders, should or Sanders,

1373
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 2: shoud or Sanders. I see a lot of them saying

1374
01:09:54,680 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: the Titans are going to take cam Ward. Okay, yeah,

1375
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 2: so this opens up the possibility of a Shador Sanders

1376
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 2: with the Giants.

1377
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 3: But then we always think that this could be a

1378
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 3: possible package deal with shoud Door in his father heading

1379
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:15,440
Speaker 3: to a team somewhere.

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01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: Well, come a little.

1381
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 3: I'm a little confused on this.

1382
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: It could be. I mean, and I don't know how.

1383
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's necessarily a must that Shoudoor

1384
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 4: feels like he needs to play for his dad. Maybe

1385
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 4: maybe Dion hopes to coach his son in the NFL.

1386
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 4: But maybe I listen. I think we've all felt this

1387
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 4: way at one point in our life. For another, I

1388
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 4: think you get a little eager, little anxious to get

1389
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 4: out of the house when you're down toward the end

1390
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 4: of your high school days, or maybe if you extended

1391
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 4: that time, you know, into your college college days, or

1392
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 4: maybe you got went right into the workforce after high school.

1393
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 4: What are typically children who lived in a house who

1394
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 4: become young adults and then adults looking to do when

1395
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 4: they're becoming their own people, They're looking to save up

1396
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 4: and move out.

1397
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: So I get it.

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01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 4: There is this thought process that coach Prime and Shadoor

1399
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 4: are a package deal. But I could see Shaudor being

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01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 4: eager potentially to get out from under his father's very

1401
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 4: broad shadow because Dion takes up a lot of the

1402
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 4: oxygen in that room. Shaudor Sanders may have been a

1403
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 4: bigger Heisman candidate on a different football team. And I

1404
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 4: mean that because weren't we all inundated with Dion Sanders

1405
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 4: news and dogamro Travis Hunter deserved it. But I'm just

1406
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 4: saying there's only so much oxygen in the room for

1407
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 4: the two of.

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01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: Them, so I could see a situation where.

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01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 4: A team who targets Shador who doesn't have room for

1410
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 4: coach prime Shardor is okay with that decision, because, after all,

1411
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:53,799
Speaker 4: it is his decision.

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01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: So we'll see.

1413
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: So right now the draft order. If you have not

1414
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 2: read up on this, Titans won Brown's two Giants three.

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01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 4: That's right, and you're telling me the Giants can't trade up?

1416
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 4: I mean one is so.

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01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 2: We know the Titans are going to take a quarterback, okay,

1418
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 2: but Will Levis is not the future.

1419
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,560
Speaker 3: We know that. Are the Browns taking quarterback?

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01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 4: They may have to because you saw the deal on

1421
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watts. I mean, he's he's retorn this this achilles.

1422
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 4: He reruptured his achilles. So I mean, if you're they.

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01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 2: Both go quarterback, and let's say cam Ward and Shadora

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01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 2: Sanders is off the board, what are the hell's that

1425
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 2: lead the Giants?

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01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: Well, that's kind of my point.

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01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 4: If the Giants, then you're trading down. If the Giants really, yeah,

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01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 4: you might in that situation. If you stand pat at

1429
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 4: third overall and you miss out on the top two quarterbacks,

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01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 4: you may trade down.

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01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: I mean, could he see Dylan Gabriel going as high

1432
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Speaker 1: as three.

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Speaker 3: No way, So I guess that's.

1434
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 4: The point you have to trade up if you're the Giants,

1435
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 4: if if you want one of the top two quarterbacks

1436
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 4: off the ball, if you want to be guaranteed to

1437
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 4: get one of the top two quarterbacks off the board.

1438
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 2: All right, Coming up on the other side of all

1439
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: the jobs out there in terms of filling a coaching vacancy,

1440
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 2: now the Patriots are off the board again. No surprise

1441
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 2: with the hiring of Mike Vrabele. Right guy, right place,

1442
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 2: right time. I think, unlike the Mayo hiring a year ago,

1443
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,600
Speaker 2: which is the most attractive job, there's one job we

1444
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 2: haven't even talked about yet, the vacancy that needs to

1445
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 2: be filled.

1446
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 3: Will break it down for you. This is Red Zone Radio.

1447
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:33,520
Speaker 2: Once again, live from our ti iraq dot com studios.

1448
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 2: So the Bills ended up selling for a field goal,

1449
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: still a one score game. Bills have taken over after

1450
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 2: a Broncos punch. So thirteen to seven Bills over Denver,

1451
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 2: eight forty to go in the third quarter of the

1452
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 2: first of three playoff games today in the National Football League.

1453
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing, Rich, how you can have a

1454
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 2: skyrocketing star as a coach and it can all fall

1455
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 2: apart quickly. Let's remember the Doug Peterson story in Jacksonville.

1456
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 2: So he takes over after the debacle that was the

1457
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 2: Urban Meyer hiring in Jacksonville.

1458
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,520
Speaker 3: His first year, he starts three and seven.

1459
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 2: Not unexpected from a team that won three games the

1460
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 2: year before, and then miraculously win six of their last

1461
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 2: seven games to win the division, get in the playoffs.

1462
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 2: They engineered one of the great comebacks in NFL playoffs

1463
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 2: history to beat the Chargers, and their season ended with

1464
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: a seven point loss on the road against the Chiefs.

1465
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 2: So then the following year they start eight and three,

1466
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 2: everything's well, and then they collapse. They end up losing

1467
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 2: five of the last six games. Last year missed the playoffs,

1468
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 2: and then this year everything fell apart for the Jacksonville Jaguars,

1469
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 2: and now what seemed to be a team in good

1470
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 2: hands right right, just like a year ago, I know,

1471
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 2: is now looking for a new head coach. Now you

1472
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 2: talked about quarterbacks. You're big on this quarterback thing. You

1473
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 2: know you gotta have the quarterback. Let me ask you,

1474
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:12,839
Speaker 2: this is Trevor Lawrence. An elite quarterback. Is Trevor Lawrence?

1475
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 2: One of the top fifteen quarterbacks in the National Football League,

1476
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 2: because that's the question you have to ask yourself if

1477
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 2: you are going to take that job as the next

1478
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 2: coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1479
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,759
Speaker 4: I do think do I think he's elite? No, because

1480
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 4: he's not an elite winner. And when you compare him,

1481
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 4: you know, chapter and verse to some of the other

1482
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 4: quarterbacks who are you know, without question playing better football

1483
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 4: than he is right now team wide and individually. He's

1484
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 4: not in that conversation, however, And it's weird to say

1485
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 4: this because we're into second contract now, but I feel

1486
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 4: about the way I feel about Trevor Lawrence is the

1487
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 4: way I feel about Justin Herbert. So Justin Herbert with

1488
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 4: Brandon Stally was the problem. A lot of people wanted

1489
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 4: to talk about Justin Herbert as being with this program,

1490
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 4: getting paid like one of these top level starters and

1491
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 4: still not producing the wins. But I looked at their

1492
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 4: head coach situation, I'm like, yeah.

1493
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: But you do need both.

1494
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 4: You need at very least a serviceable head coach, if

1495
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 4: not a talented head coach, and also one of these

1496
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,839
Speaker 4: top fifteen quarterbacks for it to push you into.

1497
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 1: The playoff conversation.

1498
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 4: And now, in my opinion, they got a great coach

1499
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 4: in LA and they have a top fifteen quarterback in

1500
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 4: my opinion, without question, in Justin Herbert. And here they

1501
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 4: are in the postseason again.

1502
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: This year.

1503
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 4: Again they got waxed by the Houston Texans. That was

1504
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 4: a bad game by the Chargers. But it's year one

1505
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 4: in this new relationship with Jim Harbaugh. Going back to

1506
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 4: the Jacksonville Jaguars, I thought they had a similar situation

1507
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 4: heading into this relationship with Lawrence and Peterson.

1508
01:16:58,320 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: I was wrong.

1509
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 4: Doug Peterson, for whatever reason, did not get the job done.

1510
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 4: And again the same way I was talking about Justin

1511
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 4: Herbert when it was Brandon Staley. I'm not going to

1512
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 4: blame Trevor Lawrence. I'm gonna blame Doug Peterson. It was

1513
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 4: up to him to make these pieces fit, to make

1514
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 4: this work, and he failed. Trevor Lawrence is in my opinion,

1515
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,879
Speaker 4: one of those quarterbacks who just needs a little.

1516
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: Bit sprinkle, a little bit of.

1517
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 4: That magic dust on him, and I think he's going

1518
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 4: to take off in this league.

1519
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: They need to.

1520
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 4: This next hire may be one of the most, if

1521
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 4: not the most higher the Jacksonville Jaguars have ever made.

1522
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: Because you only have so much time left with Trevor Lawrence.

1523
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 3: It's a big question mark.

1524
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 1: You know.

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01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 2: The Trevor Lawrence situation is this has he gotten better?

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01:17:55,960 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 2: See I again, justin Herbert. His situation is a little

1527
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 2: bit different because when we saw it in full effect yesterday,

1528
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 2: he targeted lat.

1529
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,799
Speaker 1: McCaughey, What I mean, it's so many.

1530
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 2: Fourteen times and he caught nine passes and the rest

1531
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 2: of the team was targeted eighteen times and caught six passes.

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01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't.

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01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 2: And we said this before the season that the reason

1534
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 2: none of us seemly he was looking at oh yeah,

1535
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 2: charges me a playoff because the limited resources.

1536
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 4: Are telling sure like like say say if a Ben

1537
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 4: Johnson is available and willing to be Trevor Lawrence's next

1538
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 4: head coach, that it doesn't go a hell of.

1539
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: A lot better than it does last year. I just

1540
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: that's my point.

1541
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 2: When you're assuming that Ben Johnson, as great as he's

1542
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 2: been as an offensive courter. We said this time and again,

1543
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: just because you are a great offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator,

1544
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:58,959
Speaker 2: assistant coach does not necessarily translate into becoming a great head.

1545
01:18:58,720 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: Coach, I do, he don't know.

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01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 3: Oh I thought Ben Johnson.

1547
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 4: Okay, but all right, so let's let's go apples for apples.

1548
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 4: Like say, and again this is not happening, but say

1549
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence all of a sudden was traded to Pittsburgh, right, and.

1550
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: He was playing for Mike Tomlin.

1551
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 4: You know, say Ben, say Trevor Lawrence all of a

1552
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 4: sudden was traded to the Detroit Lions, and he was

1553
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 4: playing with that team with an offensive coordinator like Ben

1554
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 4: Johnson in the current structure, with Dan Campbell as head coach. Like,

1555
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 4: that's my point about Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence isn't the

1556
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 4: problem because if you put him, if you superimpose him

1557
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 4: into some of these other situations, you know those teams

1558
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 4: would have success. You know they would, and you know

1559
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 4: that he would have more success. So that means to

1560
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 4: me that Doug Peterson was more of the problem than

1561
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence. Ever was They need to find a great,

1562
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 4: not a good, but a great next head coach. Who

1563
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 4: knows maybe that that next head coach is gonna be

1564
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick.

1565
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

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01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, do you believe speaking about

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01:19:56,080 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson. Do you believe there's a possibilit that he

1568
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 2: looks at the landscape of the coaching jobs available this

1569
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 2: year and say, you know what, I'm going to wait

1570
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 2: out another year, maybe getting another Super Bowl ring. If

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01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 2: indeed the Lions get to the promised Land and wait

1572
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 2: until next year's round, I think there is a possibility

1573
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,839
Speaker 2: keep it here more. Red Zone Radio roll along hair

1574
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,719
Speaker 2: first playoff weekend of this NFL season.

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Speaker 1: All right.

1583
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:44,759
Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills have just scored on a touchdown pass

1584
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 2: from Josh Allen to Ty Johnson. It was an interesting call,

1585
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 2: Rich it was fourth Was it fourth down? Was it

1586
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 2: fourth and one?

1587
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? I believe yeah.

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01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 2: And by the way, the Bills have been running the

1589
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 2: ball this entire game very effectively, and they had Josh

1590
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: Allen in the shotgun formation, so it was like, why

1591
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 2: are they not running the ball? And then he's scrambling around,

1592
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 2: scrambling around, he throws in the back of the end zone.

1593
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 3: Caught. They are reviewing the play.

1594
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 2: We've been watching the review was a diving catch in

1595
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 2: the back of the end zone. By the way, did

1596
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 2: you were you surprised yesterday when they reverse that interception

1597
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 2: for the Chargers a little bit?

1598
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 3: Irwin James?

1599
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a weird It was a penalty on

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01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 2: the play against the Texans, and then the reviewing the play.

1601
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 2: Monsie and I were watching as we were doing the broadcast.

1602
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is the review about? And the next

1603
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 2: thing you know, they'd reversed the call and I'm like,

1604
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: what what happened here?

1605
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 2: And then they show the replay. It's like, did the

1607
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 2: balls sort of touch the guy? I guess, Well, if

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01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 2: you look at the replay of this catch, it's actually

1609
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 2: very similar. In other words, it looks like he catches

1610
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 2: the ball, gets his hands under the ball, but as

1611
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 2: he's sliding as part of the ball touch the ground.

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01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm watching the replay again, it.

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01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 9: Is confirmed by the way, call on the field was confirmed,

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01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 9: So the confirmed touchdown.

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01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 2: Okay, So ewen was different between this and what happened

1616
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:24,720
Speaker 2: yesterday with Derwin James and.

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01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:28,560
Speaker 4: See, I'll tell you what is the difference is subjective

1618
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 4: plays are difficult to manage in the NFL, and every

1619
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 4: single NFL postseason there's a play or plays that proves

1620
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 4: controversial or obviously consequential for the Chargers. I mean that CJ.

1621
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 4: Stroud pass to I think he was targeting Schultz where

1622
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 4: Derwin James came up with the interception was in fact

1623
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 4: an interception.

1624
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 1: Until it was overturned. And you can't convince me otherwise.

1625
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 4: But when you leave things up to subjectivity, which obviously, sports,

1626
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 4: when it comes to certain rules, are highly subjective, there's

1627
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 4: going to be somebody somewhere who disagrees with you no

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01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 4: matter what. I'm sure Texans fans won't disagree because they

1629
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 4: were on their way down to kick a field goal

1630
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 4: before Justin Herbert threw a pair of interceptions and that

1631
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 4: was a huge momentum shift in that game.

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01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,639
Speaker 1: That interception, as we know, could have really been a.

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01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 4: Turning point for the Chargers or the Texans, you know,

1634
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's it makes you sick when

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01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 4: you go back and review those moments.

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01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 2: All right, Bills get the touchdown and they get a

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01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,799
Speaker 2: two point conversion. So the Bills now lead the Broncos

1638
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 2: twenty one to seven, a little more than three minutes

1639
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 2: to go in the third quarter of that game. All right,

1640
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 2: So we still have time to preview the games coming up.

1641
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 2: But I want to continue on with this coaching carousel

1642
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 2: around the NFL. By the way, not as many vacancies

1643
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 2: as we've had in past years.

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01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, less than we thought.

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01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 2: One guy that is still technically employed by a team,

1646
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: but that's about to change in a couple of days

1647
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 2: unless a deal is done.

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01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 3: Is the Mike McCarthy situation in Dallas.

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01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: That's right?

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01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 2: So you know you had maintained that you could not

1651
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,560
Speaker 2: see Mike McCarthy back with the Dallas Cowboys.

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01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 1: That is correct.

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01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 3: And you know it's funny.

1654
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 2: We were talking about the Jacksonville job, right, and would

1655
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson be interested? And I speculated he may not

1656
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 2: be interested in any of these jobs.

1657
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 3: He might decide to sit it out for a year.

1658
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 2: But if I was Jacksonville, would you be interested in

1659
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy. No, is anybody interested in Mike McCarthy.

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01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 4: Well, I think I think what I said to you

1661
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 4: was the same thing I feel about Mike McCarthy. When

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01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 4: he left Green Bay, I think when we if I'm

1663
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 4: remembering correctly, when we discussed it, I said, I could

1664
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 4: see Mike McCarthy being sort of left out of this

1665
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,759
Speaker 4: musical chairs because, like we know, in me musical chairs,

1666
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 4: there's always one less seat than there are people for,

1667
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 4: you know, so everybody, you know, you wander around the

1668
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 4: chairs and all of a sudden the music stops, find

1669
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 4: a seat, and then somebody gets eliminated every round, but

1670
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 4: along with that player, so does one of the chairs.

1671
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 4: So there's only one chair left and there's two circling it.

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01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: Only one person can get that job.

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01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,759
Speaker 4: And when he left Green Bay and now leaving Dallas,

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01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 4: I feel the same way about Mike McCarthy. I think

1675
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 4: he may have to have another gap year because if

1676
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 4: you remember he left Green Bay Packers, he wasn't working the.

1677
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: Year after that.

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01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:39,520
Speaker 4: Then Dallas fired Jason Garrett and moved on to Mike McCarthy.

1679
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 1: That's how that went down.

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01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 4: So I could see Mike McCarthy being out of a

1681
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 4: job in twenty twenty five. And to be perfectly honest

1682
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 4: with you, I'm a little I'm a little stunned that

1683
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 4: the Cowboys turned down the Bears interest in Mike McCarthy.

1684
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 4: It almost feels to me, and I know nobody will

1685
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 4: ever talk about it, but it almost feels to me

1686
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 4: unless the Cowboy have sincere interest in resigning Mike McCarthy.

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01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 4: The only reason why you do something like that to

1688
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 4: a coach who's under contract is if you're actively trying

1689
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,879
Speaker 4: to spite him. So you block the Bears from interviewing

1690
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy, why, because you're busy writing him an extension.

1691
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 4: If you were going to extend McCarthy, you would have

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01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 4: done it already. So I think that this relationship has

1693
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 4: soured so much that, unless they're currently working on a

1694
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,639
Speaker 4: new deal for Mike to stay in Dallas, that Jerry

1695
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 4: Jones is actively trying to block his opportunity to be

1696
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 4: a head coach somewhere else, and in doing so, Mike

1697
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 4: is not going to be able to work in twenty

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01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 4: twenty five.

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01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,839
Speaker 1: If you want to be a head coach in the NFL.

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01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 2: He's got to get a deal done this week, yeah,

1701
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,520
Speaker 2: Because if he doesn't get a deal done by Tuesday,

1702
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 2: McCarthy's a free agent.

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01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 8: Can Can I make a bold prediction that's going to

1704
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 8: turn out before this show ends. What do you got

1705
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy is going to sign a deal with the

1706
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys at one Pacific time? No way, I know,

1707
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 8: I guarantee you. Well, what does Jerry Jones love more

1708
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,799
Speaker 8: than attention? Yes, he's going to sign that extension, announce

1709
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 8: it before the Eagles kickoff. Everybody is going to be

1710
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 8: paying attention to Jerry.

1711
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:18,600
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, but here here's here's the problem with that announcement.

1712
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 2: You're you're you're thinking that somehow that announcement was like,

1713
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 2: we just stole everything by resigning Mike McCarthy coming out

1714
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 2: of a bad year.

1715
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 8: I don't think the ESPN pregames are going to be

1716
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 8: how are you doing that? Doesn't I guarantee you I'm

1717
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 8: going to get announced before one of these playoff games.

1718
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 2: But again, what kind of fanfare are you getting out

1719
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:44,560
Speaker 2: of resigning Mike McCarthy.

1720
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 8: After you you're getting attention.

1721
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna like, for half a second, you know what

1722
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, I honestly.

1723
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 3: I don't know what news that is. Michaemccarthy's back, Okay, great, next.

1724
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 1: That that is about?

1725
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 3: That is a break it down as.

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01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 4: Devious an idea as I could imagine, because here's the deal.

1727
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 4: Jerry Jones knows it, Otherwise he would have already extended

1728
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy. I don't know, sometime last offseason he knows

1729
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 4: that he's not in love with Mike McCarthy. But say,

1730
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 4: say they put him on some sort of weird poison

1731
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 4: pill deal. Either they let him walk, and there's gonna

1732
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 4: be a very, in my opinion, tepid market for Mike McCarthy.

1733
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 4: Or maybe Jerry Jones puts him on a two year

1734
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 4: deal and says, look, you know, we've done a lot

1735
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 4: of winning in the regular season, but we'll only extend

1736
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 4: you beyond two years if you get us into the

1737
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 4: postseason and you get us a damn postseason win. You know,

1738
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 4: maybe maybe he signs him to an ultra short term

1739
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 4: deal and they announce it, like Boja said, sometime before

1740
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 4: the Eagles kick off.

1741
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: This way you get a ton of attention. Here's the snap.

1742
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 4: You nauseate your fans because you're gonna have Twitter paying

1743
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 4: attention to the Mike McCarthy rehiring or new extension. I

1744
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 4: should say, rather than worrying about whether or not Jellen

1745
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 4: Hurts is healthy enough, you know, uh to run with

1746
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 4: the ball a lot in his game against the Packers.

1747
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 4: I think I think it's I think it's you guys.

1748
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 8: If Mike McCarthy hit the open market, you guys don't

1749
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:17,719
Speaker 8: think he'd be the top candidate available.

1750
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,679
Speaker 1: Oh, I think Ben Johnson is going to be regarded

1751
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 1: as the top.

1752
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 2: It's hard to I mean again, we are talking earlier

1753
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 2: about Mike Tomlin. There's a similarity in Mike Tomlin and

1754
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy's resume. Yeah, here's the similarity since twenty sixteen.

1755
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 2: Since twenty sixteen, both winning Super Bowls during their time

1756
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 2: back in the day. Since twenty sixteen, that means over

1757
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 2: the last eight years. We mentioned that Mike Tomlin has

1758
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 2: won zero playoff games and Mike McCarthy has won one

1759
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 2: playoff game. Yeah, one, that's over the last eight years.

1760
01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 8: If you're the Jaguars of the Bears, though, that's a

1761
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 8: ten wins a season is a pretty big step up

1762
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 8: from where you are.

1763
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 2: Well, Mike McCarthy is twelve old time and wins in

1764
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 2: the history of the NFL.

1765
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,799
Speaker 3: How about Mike Tomlins eleven? By the way, how about.

1766
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,719
Speaker 4: This kick your tires on Cliff Kingsbury As a candidate

1767
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 4: to as as a retreat at head coach.

1768
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: He hasn't. Yeah, he has experience.

1769
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 3: He's had an.

1770
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 4: Unbelievable He's had an unbelievable year.

1771
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 1: I understand Aback in Washington and that that.

1772
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 2: Would be like New England taking a look at Belichick

1773
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 2: from his Cleveland days and saying, let's take a shot

1774
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 2: with this guy.

1775
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 3: How did that work? Oh, that's right, he won six

1776
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 3: Super Bowls.

1777
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 2: Anyway, By the way, Marv Levy was the same. Mark

1778
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 2: Levy had been the coach of the Chiefs for five

1779
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 2: years where they never even made the playoffs, and somehow

1780
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 2: Buffalo decided to, you know, kick the tires on the guy,

1781
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 2: and then.

1782
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:52,679
Speaker 3: He went to four straight Super Bowls.

1783
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 1: Here's here's the thing.

1784
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 3: I agree with that, do you really I mean, Cliff Kingsbury.

1785
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 1: But here's the deal.

1786
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:02,560
Speaker 4: Statistically, when you look got a guy like like Mike McCarthy,

1787
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 4: you say, wow, his numbers really hold up, especially when

1788
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 4: we talk about the important ones w's and els. The

1789
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 4: problem is, for whatever reason, he's got bad press, you

1790
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 4: know what I.

1791
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 1: Mean, Like, it's just it's not it's not He left.

1792
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 4: Green Bay unceremoniously after he and Rogers started butting heads.

1793
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 4: The Dallas Cowboys era for him has not gone all

1794
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,640
Speaker 4: that well because the expectations are so high on the

1795
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 4: Cowboys and he did the same thing he did with

1796
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:31,679
Speaker 4: the Cowboys.

1797
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 2: The expectations by in Dallas considering they haven't even made

1798
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 2: the conference championship game since the nineteen ninety five.

1799
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 4: Season, because they've had two playoff worthy quarterbacks in back

1800
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 4: to back Romo and.

1801
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 2: Have proven that they aren't big time quarterbacks. They're not

1802
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 2: Troy Aikman, they're not Roger staubas I agree.

1803
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 4: I agree with that assessment, but they've had two top

1804
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:57,639
Speaker 4: fifteen quarterbacks who can get postseason wins, and they've really

1805
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 4: been flummixed getting to the next level.

1806
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 3: And they say they can, but they haven't.

1807
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 1: They haven't, but they can the same. I feel the

1808
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 1: same way.

1809
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 4: Though about Dak Prescott as I do about you know,

1810
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 4: Justin Herbert and Jared Goff until he got better opportunities

1811
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 4: with the Rams when they hired Sean.

1812
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 3: Was a better opportunity.

1813
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 2: The last year for Dak Prescott, I mean, they were rolling,

1814
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 2: they were the two seed a home game against Green Bay.

1815
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 2: How did that playoff game go for Dak Prescott.

1816
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 1: It did not go well.

1817
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 4: It did not go well, I mean, but that's my

1818
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 4: point is that Jerry Jones is going to be tireless here.

1819
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 4: He is not going to give up on trying to

1820
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 4: find either a splashy new hire or the right guy

1821
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 4: to fix this problem for him because he needs to

1822
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 4: win in the postseason. We know that there's always high

1823
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 4: expectations in Dallas. But I'm telling you, I could see

1824
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 4: a guy like Marcus Freeman getting a nod, you know,

1825
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 4: if he wants to leave Notre Dame over Mike McCarthy.

1826
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 4: I could see Cliff Kingsbury get a nod over a

1827
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:59,600
Speaker 4: guy like Mike McCarthy. I could see. I mean, I

1828
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 4: could see Ben Johnson getting a nod, you know. For

1829
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 4: some of the more high, highly prized coaching vacancy's over

1830
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy. I think if he doesn't come to a

1831
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 4: contractual agreement with the Dallas Cowboys, I don't see one

1832
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 4: of these teams who has a current vacancy saying all right,

1833
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy is going to be the one who comes

1834
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 4: in here and fixes all of our problems.

1835
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I think he's gonna have

1836
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 1: to sit out.

1837
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 2: I well, we'll see bo is making the prediction that

1838
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,879
Speaker 2: right as game is kicking off here between the Eagles

1839
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 2: and the Packers, the Cowboys will announce that they have

1840
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 2: re signed Mike McCarthy to a contract extension.

1841
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 3: Is that your prediction?

1842
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 1: Bo?

1843
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 3: Are we on the record with that one?

1844
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 8: Yeah? Before the Eagles kick off? Jerry Johnson, Yes, all.

1845
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 1: Right, that is so crazy.

1846
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 3: Okay, such that would be?

1847
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 8: When did they announce it?

1848
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 1: Put it on the ball.

1849
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 8: When did they announce Dak Prescott's contract extension?

1850
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 4: Uh?

1851
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 1: Wait, wait when did they do it?

1852
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 8: When did they do that? Yeah?

1853
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but wait.

1854
01:33:58,040 --> 01:33:58,759
Speaker 8: One of the NFL.

1855
01:33:58,880 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

1856
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 8: We like, literally as we're going to air, where we

1857
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 8: got a break news that Dak Prescott signed an extension

1858
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 8: with you know what.

1859
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent right.

1860
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 4: And also, like we know on our show, there's not

1861
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 4: a lot of things that happen immediately. A lot of

1862
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 4: teams coming out of the lull of the preseason. It's

1863
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 4: a little bit sleepy to start this season in a

1864
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 4: lot of spots, and we spend a good chunk of

1865
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 4: our show talking about that.

1866
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 2: All right, On the other side, we'll keep you up

1867
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 2: to date on the game going on right now with

1868
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 2: the Bills leading the Broncos twenty one to seven.

1869
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 3: They just ended the third quarter heading to the fourth.

1870
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 2: Much more in the games coming up later on today,

1871
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:37,680
Speaker 2: including what could be the most competitive game of the

1872
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 2: day as the Commanders take the road against the Tampa

1873
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers.

1874
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:46,440
Speaker 3: This is Red Zone Radio, all right, Well, the route.

1875
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:49,720
Speaker 2: Is on in Buffalo, the Bills scoring again on a

1876
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:53,719
Speaker 2: fifty five yard hookup between Josh Allen and Curtis Samuel

1877
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 2: twenty eight to seven Bills over the Broncos.

1878
01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 3: We got about fourteen and a half.

1879
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 2: Minutes going the fourth co It will take a miracle

1880
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 2: for the rookie bow Knicks to come back in this game.

1881
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 3: Red Zone Radio Steve Harbin, Rich Ormberger with you.

1882
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 2: We are live from the tiraq dot Com studios. And

1883
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 2: this is again why the Bills are such an imposing threat.

1884
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 2: We were talking earlier Rich about the Ravens or the Bills.

1885
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 2: Is it time for one of these two teams, Two

1886
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 2: of the great quarterbacks in the league, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen.

1887
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 3: They finished one two in the All Pro voting this year.

1888
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 2: To finally break through that Kansas City Wall and get

1889
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 2: to the promised Land. You know, the Buffalo Bills early

1890
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 2: in this game just ran the ball. We were talking

1891
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 2: about Josh Allen, He's not throwing the ball now. All

1892
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 2: of a sudden you look up. Sixteen to twenty two,

1893
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:43,599
Speaker 2: nine yards, two touchdowns, no picks, passer radio one forty

1894
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 2: three point five. So they can do it on the ground,

1895
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 2: they can do it through the air. What can the

1896
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 2: Ravens do? They can do it on the ground, they

1897
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 2: can do it through the air. When you have that

1898
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:59,640
Speaker 2: kind of weaponry, it makes it tough for opposing defenses.

1899
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,000
Speaker 3: So I like what the Bills are doing. They spied

1900
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:02,519
Speaker 3: the Broncos.

1901
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 2: By the way, after that touchdown pass by Bo Nicks,

1902
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 2: you know, to start the game, the Bronco offense has

1903
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 2: done nothing nothing, yeah, zero.

1904
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's it's kind of a struggle. I would say

1905
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 4: that it is. Uh, it's it's difficult when you have

1906
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 4: a rookie in a situation like this, you don't understand

1907
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:29,599
Speaker 4: until you get there. How different the playoffs feel at

1908
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 4: the feel, at the field level. I remember during my

1909
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 4: time as a rookie in New England. You know, the

1910
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 4: preseason has its own pace, and Belichick. You know, any

1911
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,640
Speaker 4: of our coaches warned us the regular season, it's just

1912
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:47,799
Speaker 4: a different it's a different animal. It's a completely different

1913
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 4: pace of play. And when you got to the regular season,

1914
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 4: you're like, oh wow, yeah, there's an adjustment here. And

1915
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 4: then when you see the the increase of the violence

1916
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 4: and the desperation that you if you toward the end

1917
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 4: of the regular season, because there's a lot of teams

1918
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 4: who are already playing for their playoff chances late in

1919
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 4: the regular season, so it is a huge.

1920
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 1: Amp up there.

1921
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 4: But then when you get to the postseason and it's

1922
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 4: winner go Home, where either you're advancing to continue to

1923
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 4: keep your vying for a Super Bowl championship alive or

1924
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 4: you're gonna be heading on the next thing, smoking to

1925
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 4: Aruba the next week, you can see the level jump

1926
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 4: up again.

1927
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, having an early bite.

1928
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 4: At this apple for bo Nicks is just what the

1929
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 4: doctor ordered, because he's gonna be able to handle this

1930
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 4: much better next year, potentially in the years to come.

1931
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:39,799
Speaker 1: In Denver.

1932
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:43,679
Speaker 2: Well, he's not the only rookie quarterback starting his playoff

1933
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:45,719
Speaker 2: game on the road. The other will be, of course,

1934
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels after his phenomenal rookie season. This was a

1935
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 2: Commander's team that went from four to thirteen to twelve

1936
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 2: and five.

1937
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 1: That's right.

1938
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 2: Why is dan Quinn not in the conversation for coach

1939
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 2: of the year eight game turn around? We talked about

1940
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 2: Jim Harborough that was a six game turnaround. We talk

1941
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 2: about O'Connell. You know, eight game turnaround from four and

1942
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,719
Speaker 2: thirteen to twelve and five your first year on the job.

1943
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 3: Where's the recognition from dan Quinn with a rookie quarterback?

1944
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 4: No less, you know, a lot of the recognition for

1945
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 4: what's happened in Washington has been given.

1946
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 1: To his quarterback.

1947
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:26,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and I think it's misplaced slightly. I

1948
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 4: think that actually Cliff Kingsbury and Dan Quinn haven't gotten

1949
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 4: enough attention for what they've done as the Washington Commanders

1950
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 4: have not only completely switched over the coaching staff, but

1951
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 4: brand new quarterback, brand new owners.

1952
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 2: Well, you know, let me ask stop you for a

1953
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 2: second year talking about Cliff Kingsbury as a head coaching

1954
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 2: candidate once again. And I'm not one hundred percent sure,

1955
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 2: but you know, the Associated Press does have an Assistant

1956
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year award they've done that for several

1957
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:55,719
Speaker 2: years now. Who's done a better job as an assistant

1958
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:56,799
Speaker 2: coach at Cliff Kingsbury.

1959
01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:00,440
Speaker 4: I mean, you're gonna be hard pressed to name one.

1960
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:01,759
Speaker 4: You're gonna be hard press.

1961
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 1: And name one.

1962
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 4: I mean to take an LSU product who's never had

1963
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 4: a snap in the NFL and to not only be

1964
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 4: playing in the postseason, but if you look at the matchup,

1965
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I like the commander's chances here. I realize

1966
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 4: that's Baker Mayfield, and I know what he's done this

1967
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 4: regular season, which is nothing short of miraculous. Baker Mayfield

1968
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 4: is a tremendous quarterback, and that Tampa Bay defense, not

1969
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 4: all season long, but at times can give you some

1970
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 4: real problems. You can't deny for a second that if

1971
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 4: not only do they get into the postseason like they

1972
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 4: are currently, but also get a W I mean, how

1973
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 4: can you leave Cliff Kingsbury's name off a short list

1974
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 4: of very available candidates, not only for a head coaching job,

1975
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 4: but obviously for coach of the year assistant coach of

1976
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 4: the year mentions accommodations. I think he deserves it.

1977
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 2: Oh well, again, we'll see how this all plays out. Now,

1978
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 2: here's the thing about Baker Mayfield in the postseason. So

1979
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 2: he's been there twice, one in Cleveland and of course

1980
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 2: last year in Tampa, and in both instances he was

1981
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 2: lights out in the first game, both wins. Remember the

1982
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 2: Cleveland game at Pittsburgh where they got they blew out

1983
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 2: the Steelers early in that game, he was twenty one

1984
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 2: to thirty four to two sixty three, three touchdowns, no picks.

1985
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 2: And then last year Tampa Bay just blew out the

1986
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 2: Eagles twenty two to thirty six, three thirty seven, three touchdowns,

1987
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 2: no picks.

1988
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 3: I think Baker Mayfield's gonna have a big day today.

1989
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 3: I really do.

1990
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't doubt it.

1991
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:39,760
Speaker 4: I I'm calling it right now that Sunday night game

1992
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 4: tonight is going.

1993
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 1: To be a shootout. I really do.

1994
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:42,679
Speaker 3: I hope.

1995
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 1: I hope so too.

1996
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 2: You know, the points spread is like a three point

1997
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:48,760
Speaker 2: spread in favorite Tampa with a home field. But you

1998
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 2: know now that he's got some of his weapons back,

1999
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 2: and I think Mayfield a little smarting not making the

2000
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. Jayden Daniels got that third slot in the

2001
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 2: NFC over Baker Mayfil, but forty one touchdowns, forty five

2002
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 2: hundred yards for Baker Mayfield his best season ever.

2003
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 3: I like the Bucks tonight, Yeah, I get it.

2004
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 4: Look, I think that I think that's what's missing from

2005
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 4: this standpoint is the Bucks are facing a highly mobile

2006
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 4: and athletic quarterback and that can change things, especially like

2007
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 4: I want you to think about, for example, Lamar Jackson

2008
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 4: when he's playing against teams outside of his conference. So

2009
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 4: when the Ravens play against NFC teams, how baffled many

2010
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 4: of those NFC teams are when they're facing his level

2011
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:42,800
Speaker 4: of athleticism. I think that's what the Buccaneers are going

2012
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 4: to face tonight in the Commanders because it's a very

2013
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 4: difficult picture to paint for your starting defense and there's

2014
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 4: very few players on your scout offensive team who can

2015
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 4: replicate that type of movement inside the pocket or when

2016
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 4: a QB breaks free.

2017
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what his trend right now,

2018
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 2: Monci Belanos is. You know, I've been fighting it obviously

2019
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:08,640
Speaker 2: after a disappointing day yesterday for her beloved Chargers.

2020
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 6: But disappointing is putting it nicely.

2021
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 2: By the way, I was listening to Isaac Longcron on

2022
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 2: the postgame.

2023
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 3: Chargers show, and what did he say he.

2024
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 2: Just laid out what a disaster it was for Justin Herbert. Yeah, no,

2025
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 2: MOA's completion percentage of any game in his career. He

2026
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 2: had never thrown more than two interceptions in an NFL game.

2027
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,920
Speaker 2: He had four in a playoff game after throwing only

2028
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:39,400
Speaker 2: three interceptions the entire season. Basically, instead of taking personal blame,

2029
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 2: which I think Isaac should have done, because in the

2030
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 2: pregame show he basically said it was going to be

2031
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:48,080
Speaker 2: a walkover for the Chargers, he decided to throw Justin

2032
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 2: Herbert under the bus.

2033
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 6: Well, I mean Justin Herbert after the game did take

2034
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 6: accountability because there were those picks that went through the hands.

2035
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 3: But he did not look good when it mattered.

2036
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 6: Was in the second half, you know, after because he

2037
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 6: didn't look bad at the beginning, and then it just,

2038
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:06,759
Speaker 6: I don't know, it got away from them real quick.

2039
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:12,479
Speaker 6: Momentum shifted after that touchdown was you know, returned or

2040
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:16,600
Speaker 6: they changed it whatever it was, Uh, just not not

2041
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 6: the way you wanted the sea.

2042
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Herbert impressed though, because we were

2043
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:23,240
Speaker 2: sitting here, so remember this. Richie got sacked two straight

2044
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 2: plays and the second sack he got level. Yes, he did,

2045
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 2: and then the next play eighty six yard touchdown, and

2046
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 2: I mean he got leveled.

2047
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, where You're like, is he still there? Why is

2048
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 3: he not?

2049
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:43,679
Speaker 2: What I mean, hello, he could barely stand and he's

2050
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:44,599
Speaker 2: still in the game.

2051
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 3: And then the next pass eighty six yard touchdown.

2052
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2053
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, it just it just was not a competitive loss.

2054
01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 6: And that's what sucks about it. It was a bad loss,

2055
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 6: not a good one. But we'll see. I hope you're

2056
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:59,160
Speaker 6: wrong that they will, you know, not be as good

2057
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:00,479
Speaker 6: next road.

2058
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 2: Jim Harball will get it right, Yeah, I agree, but

2059
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 2: they that they got it.

2060
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 3: They got to add some piece, of course they do.

2061
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 1: I know. Manzi's a big Chargers fan.

2062
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:11,639
Speaker 4: We've talked about this many times on air or off air,

2063
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:15,759
Speaker 4: about the Chargers and their prospects. I'm telling you, Monci,

2064
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 4: and this is since since twenty thirteen when I signed

2065
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 4: with the Chargers as a free agent.

2066
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,840
Speaker 1: This is the first time in that span of time what.

2067
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 4: Are we talking about, close to fifteen years, fourteen years

2068
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 4: whatever it is in that span of time that I've

2069
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 4: felt very very secure about the Chargers future.

2070
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, look.

2071
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 4: Philip Rivers was a great quarterback, but the laundry list

2072
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:39,679
Speaker 4: of head coaches that have cycled through until this point.

2073
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:41,559
Speaker 3: It's true has been an issue.

2074
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 4: But Justin Herbert talented quarterback, Jim Harbaugh talented head coach.

2075
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 1: They're going to figure it out.

2076
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, you're right.

2077
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:49,720
Speaker 6: It's a completely different culture and from one year to

2078
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 6: the next.

2079
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 2: And so I do have one thing that's a concerned

2080
01:44:54,000 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 2: So all these coaches since North Turner, so Mike mccolly,

2081
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 2: Anthony Lynn, Brandon Staley, now Jim Harbaugh, what do they

2082
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 2: all have in common? They had winning seasons their first

2083
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 2: year is the head coach of the Chargers. In fact,

2084
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:13,720
Speaker 2: they had winning seasons in their first two years as

2085
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:16,600
Speaker 2: a head coach. It's year three that seems to have

2086
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:19,719
Speaker 2: unraveled these coaches with the Chargers.

2087
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:22,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm just saying just pointing out. I will

2088
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:24,639
Speaker 3: acknowledge Harball is a different cat than the other three.

2089
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:26,160
Speaker 6: You're just pointing out things.

2090
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 1: That's all.

2091
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 6: Well, guys, the Bills are definitely trying to run away

2092
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 6: with it now, scoring already eighteen points in the second half.

2093
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:35,760
Speaker 3: They just got the ball back.

2094
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 6: They are on top twenty eight to seven against the Broncos,

2095
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 6: who scored those seven points on their opening drive, but

2096
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:44,519
Speaker 6: the Bills have really come alive in the second half.

2097
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 6: The latest touchdown was a fifty five yard touchdown passed

2098
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,599
Speaker 6: to Curtis Samuel from Josh Allen, who is now sixteen

2099
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 6: of twenty for two hundred and nine yards and two touchdowns.

2100
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 6: Bo Nicks twelve to nineteen, one hundred and thirty seven

2101
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 6: yards and that touchdown again, that was on their opening

2102
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:01,640
Speaker 6: drive ten minutes to go twenty eight seven. Is the

2103
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:05,599
Speaker 6: score still to come. It's the NFC Wildcard playoffs between

2104
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 6: the Packers and the Eagles, which is to starting about

2105
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 6: an hour for thirty eastern, then the Buccaneers and the

2106
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 6: Commanders at eight eastern. The Patriots have found their.

2107
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 1: New head coach.

2108
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:15,639
Speaker 3: It's Mike Rabel. Everybody expected this.

2109
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 6: He played in New England eight seasons, won three Super

2110
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 6: Bowls there and as a member of the.

2111
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 3: Team's Hall of Fame.

2112
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:23,639
Speaker 6: We've got NBA underway, a big one between the Bucks

2113
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 6: and the Knicks in New York. Nickson top twenty nine

2114
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 6: to twenty seven late in the first quarter. Jalen Brunson

2115
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:32,799
Speaker 6: sixteen points so far in the first quarter. The Mavericks

2116
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:35,599
Speaker 6: all over the Nuggets so far thirty two fifteen. They're

2117
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:37,080
Speaker 6: about to end the first quarter.

2118
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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, Hi MONSI thank you very much,

2119
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Speaker 2: as we are live from the tire Raq dot com studios.

2120
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 2: So the game tomorrow night between the Vikings and the

2121
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 2: Rams has been moved to Arizona.

2122
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 3: The reason, by the way this actually happened. It's not like.

2123
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 2: Inglewood, where Sofi Stadium lies is in anywhere direct path

2124
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 2: of the fire situation. But remember it is not a

2125
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 2: dome stadium. It is a roofed stadium, and the air

2126
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:12,720
Speaker 2: quality situation was very uncertain based on these fires and

2127
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 2: wind direction everything else.

2128
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:16,680
Speaker 3: So really about air quality than anything else.

2129
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 2: Because if you go to Sofi Stadium, because I've been

2130
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 2: there for night games when it's freezing outside, it's freezing inside.

2131
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,559
Speaker 2: I mean, you know you're going to get the same tamp.

2132
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:26,640
Speaker 2: You're also going to get the same win, air and

2133
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 2: everything else. It just has a roof over it. So

2134
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 2: this game gets moved to Arizona. Rich I want to

2135
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:36,439
Speaker 2: start with the Vikings. We had said all season long

2136
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 2: about this Vikings team. If there was any question mark

2137
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 2: about the Vikings, it would be Sam Donald. Can he

2138
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 2: hold up? Can Sam Donald hold up? And continue to

2139
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 2: play the way he has all season long, and he

2140
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 2: had until that last game. And for the first time

2141
01:47:56,160 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 2: that I watched Sam Donald this year, suddenly Sam Donald

2142
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 2: went into panic mode. The defensive game plan of the

2143
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 2: Lions was brilliant. We talked about the Lions and all

2144
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,760
Speaker 2: the injuries they had had. You know, they were going

2145
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 2: to put man on man coverage against Justin Jefferson. This

2146
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 2: should have been a field day for the Vikings, and

2147
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 2: they had a lot of opportunities early in that game,

2148
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 2: and Sam Darnold just could not deliver. He was under

2149
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 2: pressure and as the game wore on, you could just

2150
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 2: see that he got unraveled. Yeah, and I'm sure the

2151
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:34,559
Speaker 2: Rams are taking note and say get ready for this

2152
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:38,320
Speaker 2: Vikings team. I know it's not technically a home game

2153
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 2: for the Rams. It's certainly not a home game for

2154
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 2: the Vikings. But I think with Sean McVay and the

2155
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:48,559
Speaker 2: Rams can put pressure on the quarterback. I think they

2156
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 2: took a lot of notes from that Lions game. And

2157
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I'm feeling pretty good

2158
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 2: about this Rams team tomorrow night against the Vikings.

2159
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 1: I agree with you.

2160
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 4: I think that the Rams okay so a couple of

2161
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 4: things about the Rams.

2162
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 1: A Matthew Stafford.

2163
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 4: Okay, Matthew Stafford, in my mind is a future Hall

2164
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:16,960
Speaker 4: of Famer, healthy, with a full complement of talented receivers.

2165
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:18,680
Speaker 4: Hard guy to beat in the postseason.

2166
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 1: Stop there.

2167
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:23,839
Speaker 4: Sean McVay, Yeah, veteran coach, been to two Super Bowls,

2168
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 4: won one of them with his current quarterback.

2169
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 1: Okay, stop there. Switch it over to the Vikings.

2170
01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:33,480
Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell, who's coaching treated he fall off of Sean mcvay's.

2171
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:37,559
Speaker 4: Sam Donald as good as he's been in the regular season,

2172
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 4: he played in the biggest game of his life against

2173
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:43,719
Speaker 4: the Detroit Lions to have control of the conference heading

2174
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 4: into the postseason, and he shrunk. Yeah, he looked like

2175
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 4: a completely different guy. Many of those accurate throws that

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Speaker 4: we've seen Sam Donald throw time and time this regular

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01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:57,679
Speaker 4: season were inaccurate. He was out of sorts. And he's

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Speaker 4: been a guy who's been a soldier this season. He's

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Speaker 4: been under fire before, he's seen blitz. The Vikings do

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01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 4: a good job of beating the Blitz, typically because Sam

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01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 4: Donald savvy and Kevin o'conno's coaching. So whatever happened in

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01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 4: that game I think was more about a Detroit's game plan.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to take anything away from Dan Campbell

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Speaker 4: and Aaron Glenn and the way they prepared for the Vikings,

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01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 4: obviously seeing them a second time that season even better

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01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 4: than the first. But I digress on the Detroit Lions

2187
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 4: to focus on Sam Donald. This is now going to

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01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 4: be the biggest game of his entire life once again

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01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 4: in back to back weeks. I feel like the spotlight

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01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 4: is going to be really hot on the back of

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01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 4: Sam Donald's neck. And I trust the Rams and I

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Speaker 4: trust Stafford More.

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Speaker 3: I one hundred percent agree on this.

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Speaker 2: I mean the other thing about it was, and we

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01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 2: were talking about this before the Vikings Lions matchup, that

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Speaker 2: you know, everything on the line, the one seed, the

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01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,760
Speaker 2: difference between the one seed and a five seeds, so

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01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 2: much on the line. A lot to be gained obviously

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Speaker 2: with a win, but how much do you lose? I mean,

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Speaker 2: how devastating would the loss be? And I just got

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Speaker 2: to think, especially the way they ended up completely unraveling

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Speaker 2: the second half of that game against the Lions, I

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01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 2: don't know where the mindset is for the Vikings going

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01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:25,080
Speaker 2: into this game. By the way, just a note on

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01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:29,559
Speaker 2: the Rams as they get ready for this playoff game.

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Speaker 2: Let's recall when the Rams won the Super Bowl three

2207
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 2: years ago, the Rams were the four seed. You know,

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01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:41,559
Speaker 2: I found it curious in that last game against the Seahawks, right,

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Speaker 2: why are the Rams sitting everybody out? You have a

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Speaker 2: chance to be a three seed? Do you really want

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01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 2: to play the loser of the Vikings Lions game? Or

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01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 2: would you rather play the Commanders? And I don't think.

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Speaker 2: And Sean McVay, here's the thing. Sean McVay, he's such

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01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 2: a good coach. He he knew his team. He's like,

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01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 2: first of all, my guys need rest. Yeah, you know,

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01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 2: we had a lot of injuries this year, and now

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01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 2: I got guys healthy. I don't want to risk getting

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01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 2: guys hurt.

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01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:13,800
Speaker 4: Yes, he's been playing with the banged up Rams team

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01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:14,599
Speaker 4: all season.

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Speaker 3: On pokon who.

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01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:18,640
Speaker 4: Has spent time out, Jared Goff spent time out. Stafford's

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01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 4: been dinged up throughout this year. His offensive line has

2224
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 4: been through issues. His defense. Sean mcvain knew what was

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01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:25,400
Speaker 4: right for his.

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Speaker 2: As absolutely, and he's like, look at what why would

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01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:31,840
Speaker 2: I fear being the four seed? You know, back in

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01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 2: the and when they won the Super Bowl, they had

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01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:38,400
Speaker 2: a home game against Arizona and then the Rams had

2230
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:42,759
Speaker 2: to go on the road against you remember Tom Brady,

2231
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:46,880
Speaker 2: and they beat him. And then the Rams ended up

2232
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 2: getting lucky with a home game against their nemesis, the

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01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, And next thing you know, they're on

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01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 2: the way there's the Super Bowl that they won. I'm

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01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 2: not gonna say they're gonna win a super Bowl this year,

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01:52:56,560 --> 01:53:00,800
Speaker 2: but I think that them sitting play in that game

2237
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:05,800
Speaker 2: and dropping to a four seed is almost by game plan.

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01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:08,599
Speaker 2: I just think the Rams are gonna be very confident

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01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 2: going in this game against the Vikings. And you mentioned

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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford. Matthew Stafford versus Sam Donald in a playoff

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01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:18,960
Speaker 2: game that looks like a mismatch to me.

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01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:24,440
Speaker 4: If Sam Donald pulls this off, he will effectively completely

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01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 4: rewrite the way everybody will talk about his career forever.

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01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:30,760
Speaker 3: Well, what if it doesn't go?

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01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 1: Well?

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01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:33,240
Speaker 3: What do you do with the Vikings?

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01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:33,760
Speaker 1: But hang on?

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01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 4: Having said that, Having said that, can you imagine how

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01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:42,679
Speaker 4: much pressure is on his shoulders knowing that, Yeah, Sam

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01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 4: Donald knows what's at stake here. This is his one shot,

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01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 4: This is his one opportunity to completely rewrite all of

2252
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:54,760
Speaker 4: the bad things that everybody said about Sam Donald since

2253
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:57,719
Speaker 4: he's been a drafted rookie in the NFL. Think about

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01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:01,759
Speaker 4: the journey and the embarrassment that he's been through. Drafted

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Speaker 4: third overall to the Jets doesn't work out. A lot

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01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 4: of blame levied on him, even though the Jets as

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01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:08,240
Speaker 4: an organization.

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01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 1: Are a mess and have been my entire life. I'm

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01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 1: thirty eight, by the way, my entire life, the Jets

2260
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 1: have been a mess.

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Speaker 4: Then he moves on to Carolina where he gets some opportunities,

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01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 4: but he gets hurt a lot. He has shifted into

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01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:23,720
Speaker 4: the background in Carolina before being shipped off across the

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01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 4: country to be a backup to a last overall pick

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01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 4: in brock Purty. Now Kyle Shanahan had some nice things

2266
01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 4: to say about Sam Darnold during his time with the

2267
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 4: forty nine ers, But imagine backing up after being a

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01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:42,360
Speaker 4: top pick in the NFL draft just years earlier, the

2269
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 4: backup behind miss or irrelevant. You don't think he's aware

2270
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 4: of everything that's weighing in on this moment for him,

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01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:53,919
Speaker 4: both personally, professionally, and from a standpoint of career legacy.

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01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 1: That's a lot of pressure. Man.

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01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford can play light and free. Matthew Stafford already

2274
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 4: as his Super Bowl ring. Matthew Stafford already has checked

2275
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:07,200
Speaker 4: all those boxes that Sam Donald is still trying to reverse.

2276
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:10,760
Speaker 4: He's dug himself that hole, or by virtue of circumstance,

2277
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:13,320
Speaker 4: the hole's been dug and he's climbing out of it.

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01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 1: He's clawing for his life.

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01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:19,120
Speaker 4: Can you imagine showing up to this game, a win

2280
01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:21,560
Speaker 4: or go home game, and being Sam Donald?

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01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:24,240
Speaker 1: The pressure could not be higher.

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01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:27,840
Speaker 2: Well, once again, we are watching an NFL playoff game.

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01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:29,480
Speaker 3: This is like the college football playoffs.

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01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 2: We haven't had very many competitive games so far, but

2285
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 2: with the college football playoffs, we certainly had a couple

2286
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 2: of competitive semi finals. Right now, twenty eight to seven

2287
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:41,920
Speaker 2: Bills over the Broncos inside six minutes ago. The Bills

2288
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 2: are going to move on to the divisional playoff row.

2289
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 2: We have much more coming up, including well some of

2290
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 2: the thoughts about what's going on with that college football

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01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 2: playoff championship game.

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01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:54,920
Speaker 3: That's what eight weeks away.

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01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 2: I don't know when it is. We'll continue on. This

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Speaker 2: is Red Zone Radio. Steve apartment and Rich Hornberger, Yes,

2295
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 2: this is Red Zone Radio. We are live from the

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01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 2: Tirak dot com studios. Bills about of the field goal

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01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 2: thirty one to seven. Now four and a half minutes

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01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 2: to go in that game, and then we'll get ready

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01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 2: for the kickoff of the Green Bay Packers and the

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01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:22,480
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles. So Rich, the championship game is set for

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01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 2: college football and the matchup ends up the seven seed

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01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:30,320
Speaker 2: Notre Dame versus the eighth seed Ohio State.

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01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:31,040
Speaker 1: YEP.

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01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 4: Which, by the way, if we're being honest with each other,

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01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 4: if this was seeded correctly, there's no way Notre Dame

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01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:44,440
Speaker 4: or Ohio State would have been as low seeds in

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01:56:44,440 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 4: this playoff bracket.

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01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:47,160
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, let's put it this way.

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01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:50,040
Speaker 2: If you had a four school playoff, there's no way

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01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:51,200
Speaker 2: Ohio State would have been.

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01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 1: In not After with that, I agree with that.

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01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:55,360
Speaker 3: After losing in Michigan, there's no way.

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01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:57,640
Speaker 2: Now Notre Dame, I think would have been I do

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01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 2: so I would say that the fourteen would have been Oregon, Georgia,

2315
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:10,200
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. See, there would have been a lot of argument.

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01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 1: Say you better say Penn State.

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01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 2: Well, well, I again, but here here you know it

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01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:18,320
Speaker 2: would have been tricky.

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01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why.

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01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me why, because.

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Speaker 2: There would have been a huge argument for Boise State

2322
01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:26,480
Speaker 2: because their only loss was by three points on the.

2323
01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:29,120
Speaker 1: Road to Oregon to the number one team to the number.

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01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 2: One team of the country, you know, and Penn State

2325
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 2: obviously having lost.

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01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 1: To Ohio State.

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01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you.

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01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:38,320
Speaker 1: Know it could.

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01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:40,920
Speaker 2: But the fact is is that Penn State would have

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01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:45,400
Speaker 2: lost the conference championship game, and so you would have

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01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:49,400
Speaker 2: had this one one So I think so might might No?

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01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:51,520
Speaker 2: I think I think it would have. I think Boise

2333
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 2: would have gotten in as a one loss team conference

2334
01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 2: champions losing only to Oregon. You would have had Oregon,

2335
01:57:57,800 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 2: you would had Georgia, you would have had Boys, you

2336
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:00,320
Speaker 2: would have no Notre.

2337
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 3: Dame, and Notre Dame only had one loss.

2338
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then of course have been a lot of

2339
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 2: argument about Notre Dame because they lose that home game

2340
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:08,000
Speaker 2: to Northern Illinois.

2341
01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:11,080
Speaker 8: You you you think that the playoff committee that would

2342
01:58:11,160 --> 01:58:21,760
Speaker 8: leave out Texas's point loses to Georgia, right, I think

2343
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:23,920
Speaker 8: you're right. I think Texas wouldn't have shouldn't have been

2344
01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:25,720
Speaker 8: in a fourteen playoff, But I don't think the committee

2345
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:26,240
Speaker 8: leaves them out.

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01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 9: I mean, you even have the option of something like Clemson,

2347
01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:31,000
Speaker 9: who is at least ostensibly a Power five and a

2348
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 9: conference champion, over over Boise.

2349
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:37,720
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, the Boise argument would have been very

2350
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 2: strong because their only loss was a three point road

2351
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 2: loss to the number one team of the country. If

2352
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:48,920
Speaker 2: they lost to anybody else, is there no, Absolutely not,

2353
01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 2: not a sniff.

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01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:51,400
Speaker 3: It would have been quite an argument.

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01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 8: Is there a TV network that runs the colleg football player?

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01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:55,920
Speaker 1: I hang on a second, bo You're onto something here.

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01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:59,120
Speaker 4: It's it starts with I mean, I think it's a

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01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:01,120
Speaker 4: four letter acronym, and I'm sure.

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01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, but let me ask you this. How many

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01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:07,480
Speaker 2: is it pronounced spen? Well, let me ask you this,

2361
01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 2: how many? How many SEC teams are in the championship game?

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01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:14,000
Speaker 2: Can we count the SEC teams?

2363
01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 8: You're totally correct?

2364
01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:15,880
Speaker 1: The SEC.

2365
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:22,800
Speaker 3: This year? Okay, down this year from Espen?

2366
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:25,560
Speaker 2: What conference gets a lot of heavy Texas blow you

2367
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 2: away by the way we talk about the complete.

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01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:31,320
Speaker 4: Speak of it from this standpoint, yeah, if it's still

2369
01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:33,480
Speaker 4: the same old way it is. The reason why we

2370
01:59:33,560 --> 01:59:35,480
Speaker 4: ended up with the results we have is because, like

2371
01:59:35,480 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 4: you said, Ohio State would have been on the outside

2372
01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 4: looking in if it was a fourteen bracket. But when

2373
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:43,440
Speaker 4: you expand the bracket to include twelve, there are going

2374
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:44,600
Speaker 4: to be results.

2375
01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:46,960
Speaker 2: So this is let me ask, this is this a

2376
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:50,160
Speaker 2: good thing that the first ever expanded college football playoff,

2377
01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:53,040
Speaker 2: even those these are two of the most legendary programs

2378
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 2: in college football history.

2379
01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:57,240
Speaker 3: That a seventh seed is playing the eighth seed.

2380
01:59:57,760 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 4: I think it proves that there should have been a

2381
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:02,280
Speaker 4: football playoff expansion a long time ago.

2382
02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:05,120
Speaker 3: You want to go seating method. By the way, Rich

2383
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:07,120
Speaker 3: wants to go sixty four. What do you think, guys?

2384
02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 1: No, I didn't say sixty four. I'm up to sixteen.

2385
02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:10,560
Speaker 1: Now sixteen.

2386
02:00:10,600 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 2: Oh you're up to sixteen. I thought you wanted to

2387
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:14,280
Speaker 2: go full, full blown sixty four.

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02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:16,080
Speaker 3: All right, we'll roll on.

2389
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:18,880
Speaker 2: Get ready for the second game of the day here

2390
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:21,920
Speaker 2: on Red Zone Radio. One game down, two to go

2391
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Speaker 2: on this wildcard Sunday here in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: This is Red Zone Radio.

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Speaker 3: Buying should be.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think about this initially, but now I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: about it. So we've had three wildcard games, all AFC,

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Speaker 2: So they had the three AFC games first, Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: now we got the three NFC games.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I didn't think of it either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all said for next week, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be the Ravens at the Bills, and it's going to

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Speaker 2: be the Texans at the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: We don't know anything. In fact, you know, Chris was

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Speaker 2: bringing this up. We were talking about this with the

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Speaker 2: next week. So I was asking Bo about the schedule. Well,

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Speaker 2: the two Saturday games in the Division Round are the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs and the Lions hosting.

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Speaker 3: Well, now we know the Chiefs will be hosting the Texans.

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Speaker 3: But think about this.

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Speaker 2: If the Buccaneers and the Eagles win as expected, that

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Speaker 2: would mean the winner of the Vikings Rams game playing

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Speaker 2: on Monday would have to be in Detroit on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: So you would have a Monday night game and they

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Speaker 2: would be on a short week coming out of that game.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm because if I'm using some logic from Vikings fans,

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Speaker 9: I guess that's only fair because the Lions are a

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Speaker 9: one seed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, advantage. Well I understand, but if you're the Rams,

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Speaker 3: you're like, whoa, whoa, who what happen here?

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Speaker 8: What happened?

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Speaker 2: Why are we on a short week? So, but that

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Speaker 2: would only be the case. Obviously, the Lions will face

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Speaker 2: the lowest seed. Right now, we have the Packers as

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Speaker 2: the seventh seed and you have the Commanders as a

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Speaker 2: sixth seed. If either one of those teams were to win,

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Speaker 2: then they would be the ones heading on a Saturday

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Speaker 2: game with you know, you know, Sunday's Saturday. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean if the Tampa wins, if the Eagles win,

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Speaker 2: then the winner of the game Monday will be playing

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Speaker 2: Saturday in Detroit.

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Speaker 3: So it looks like Christy, you have to acknowledge this.

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Speaker 2: The league is doing everything everything to give the Lions

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Speaker 2: every single advantage to finally get to their first ever

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 9: I mean every single advantage. I mean, the Vikings would

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Speaker 9: be in the same place if they had won that game.

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Speaker 9: But they didn't win that game.

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Speaker 2: Did anybody think possible looking at the schedule, that that

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Speaker 2: Vikings Lions game was going to be for the number

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Speaker 2: one seed in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: No anybody. No.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe for the division.

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Speaker 9: I mean, maybe it's for like the Lions to wrap

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Speaker 9: up the division, but I think it was more like, oh,

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Speaker 9: they'll be in like a tight race with like the

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Speaker 9: Packers or something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's that weekend.

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Speaker 9: You also had Bears Packers and a lot of people

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Speaker 9: hyped up the Bears. Maybe that would have been put

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Speaker 9: on Sunday night, but instead this game.

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Speaker 2: My point is simply this, there are no excuses for

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Speaker 2: the Lions if they don't make it to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying win the super Bowl, but if they

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Speaker 2: don't make it to the super Bowl, it's a choke job.

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Speaker 2: I hold on, we're really gonna do that after I really,

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Speaker 2: we're already like extending that bar up. So come on,

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Speaker 2: you're playing You have two different teams that you would

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Speaker 2: play probably a third time in here, and.

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Speaker 3: You don't think the are a better team than the Eagles. See,

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Speaker 3: that's kind of the thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying that they're choke artist.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a little strong, but I will say this,

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Speaker 4: if the bed hasn't been feathered or the pillows haven't

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Speaker 4: been fluffed better for a path to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: than the Lions have right now.

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Speaker 1: By the way, due to the amount of work that

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Speaker 1: they've done.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've overcome significant in this position because for

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Speaker 2: what they have done.

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Speaker 9: So I don't think it's an easier path than like

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Speaker 9: the Chiefs have right now we're.

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Speaker 2: Talking about the Chiefs don't have an easy You think

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Speaker 2: that they who.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, the Chiefs have an easier path.

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Speaker 2: They have an easier path playing there because one of

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Speaker 2: those they have those two teams just playing each other. No,

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Speaker 2: those two are ridiculous. Does anybody believe out there that

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Speaker 2: the Eagles are better than Josh Allen, than the Bills

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Speaker 2: or Lamar Jackson the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: I think there's Does anybody believe that?

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it's even close.

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Speaker 9: Chris, I hold on, But like those two teams have

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Speaker 9: to play each other next, they're going to bang up

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Speaker 9: the hell out of each other.

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Speaker 4: Come come on, all right, I mean outside of the

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Speaker 4: situation where one of those teams, say, lose their starting

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Speaker 4: quarterback and the chief then the Chiefs will have an

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Speaker 4: easier path.

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Speaker 1: But making look, I understand it you're a huge Lions fan.

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Speaker 4: You're looking at this through a Wahoo Blue lenses.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 3: Can we not?

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Speaker 1: Can we not?

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Speaker 3: Please not do that to me? Like I've been.

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Speaker 4: This is not objective, Chris easiest path to the Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl than any other team in the field, and.

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Speaker 2: It's because they have shown over the course of this

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Speaker 2: entire season as many people predicted, including you.

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Speaker 3: Chris. By the way, did we ever look over our records? Goodness,

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Speaker 3: we do have the records around here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we do. I have them. I have them on

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Speaker 1: on my.

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Speaker 3: Okay, hold on.

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Speaker 2: The other thing I'm curious about is I would I

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Speaker 2: would say two things, because it's so extensive, there are

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Speaker 2: two things. Who had the most teams predicted correctly to

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Speaker 2: get into the postseason and who actually had the most

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Speaker 2: on the dot predictions as far as final regular season record.

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Speaker 2: Those would be the two things I'd be most curious about.

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Speaker 2: One team I do know I got one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: right was the Broncos. I had him in the playoffs

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Speaker 2: and I had him finishing ten and seven.

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Speaker 3: That I know might be my only run right. But

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Speaker 3: those would be the two things.

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Speaker 2: Who had the most correctly predicted teams that made the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: fourteen teams make the playoffs, who had the biggest number

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Speaker 2: of teams actually making the playoffs, and which person actually

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Speaker 2: correctly predicted on the dot the regular season record, because

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone could have gotten more than what

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Speaker 2: four three four on.

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Speaker 3: The dot.

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Speaker 2: Let me see, I'm just curious about it. Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: don't have to do that the second believe.

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Speaker 4: No no, no, no, yeah, but I would say I would say,

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Speaker 4: let's uh, let's do it next weekend so we can

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Speaker 4: be organized. Because over the course of this week, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to jot down and maybe I'll send it to.

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Speaker 1: Our group text how far.

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Speaker 4: Or near each of us were to having the exact

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Speaker 4: correct win total on the season. It'll be fascinating because see,

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Speaker 4: we should do it every year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we all five of us were part of this.

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Speaker 2: So this Yeszi Mansi too. So it was very very interesting. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so we are now going to get ready for this

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Speaker 2: Packers Eagles game, which is going to be kicking off

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Speaker 2: here at about twenty minutes. We were talking earlier about

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Speaker 2: the quarterback situation. He's just tuning in the news on

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts seems to be positive. Set out a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks with a concussion reported back for the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: He looks fine. It's a rested Eagles team.

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Speaker 2: They made that decision to not go after Eric Dickerson's

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Speaker 2: rushing record. They sat Barkley, they sat their offensive line,

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Speaker 2: which I think was a smart play. They had played

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Speaker 2: twelve straight weeks. Remember they had a buy in week

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Speaker 2: five and obviously no by this week. So I think

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Speaker 2: Siriani made the right decision. I know it's disappointing for

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Speaker 2: you because Sakuon Barkley breaking the record against his former team,

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Speaker 2: the Giants, But would he have gotten one hundred yards

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Speaker 2: and a half.

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Speaker 1: I think so. Maybe.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the Giants would have brought in

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Speaker 3: that final game, but.

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Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. It was conceivable.

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Speaker 2: It was conceivable, but it also would have required the

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Speaker 2: offensive line to show up.

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Speaker 4: I think Look, I said this to you and I'll

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Speaker 4: repeat it. I think Saquon made the right choice for

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Speaker 4: his team, and I think that it'll it'll go down

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Speaker 4: recognized in Philadelphia with those players, that locker room, that

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Speaker 4: coaching staff, those executives, that Saquon Barkley values his teammates

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Speaker 4: more than maybe anybody else on that roster.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll tell you will it will not be valued

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Speaker 2: if they lose today to the Packers at home. And

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Speaker 2: all I can say this is that the Packers were

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Speaker 2: the seventh seed last year, just like they are this

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Speaker 2: year on the road against the two seed, the NFC

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Speaker 2: East champions. Last year was the Cowboys, and the Packers

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Speaker 2: blew them out.

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Speaker 4: But it would be easier. Okay, let me just draw

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Speaker 4: up two exams. Because you brought it up. It's worthwhile

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Speaker 4: talking about if Saquon Barkley goes out there and has

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Speaker 4: an off day, like maybe he only rushes for you know,

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Speaker 4: like I'm talking about a real bad day at the office,

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Speaker 4: maybe two point eight yards per carry, he fumbles once,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like he doesn't score any

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Speaker 4: touchdowns on the ground, Like just an unusually abnormal day

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Speaker 4: in terms of low production for Saquon Barkley. Okay, they nobody,

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Speaker 4: nobody would blame him more for that than if say

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Speaker 4: he went out there on the final game of the

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Speaker 4: regular season.

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Speaker 1: He got his record.

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Speaker 4: He is the single season rushing yardage total guy, and

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Speaker 4: he gets to write his name above everybody else is

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Speaker 4: in the history books. But they lose one of their

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Speaker 4: starting offensive linemen, and that proves to be the reason

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Speaker 4: or one of the reasons why the Eagles lose the

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Speaker 4: game to the Packers. I feel like the crowd would

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Speaker 4: come after Saquon Barkley more for that outcome than if

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Speaker 4: he just has a bad day at the office. I

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Speaker 4: really do, because I think Saquon Barkley's impact on this

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Speaker 4: roster has been so significant, and then the selflessness that

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Speaker 4: he showed by not chasing his record and keeping everybody healthy.

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Speaker 1: I think it would be a more excusable.

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Speaker 4: Loss on this side than it would be on in

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Speaker 4: you know, living in that parallel universe where he did

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Speaker 4: go for the rushing record and got a starting offensive

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Speaker 4: lineman injured.

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Speaker 1: So I think he made the right decision.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you keep saying he made the

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Speaker 2: decision he did. He essentially not make the decision. The

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Speaker 2: decision was made by Sirianni. He went along with it.

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Speaker 2: He even admitted that, you know, he's like, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think about it, and maybe I would have liked to

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Speaker 2: have gone after the record. Even brought up his own

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Speaker 2: family was pretty upset about the situation. So this wasn't

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02:10:57,280 --> 02:11:00,360
Speaker 2: him saying Diggan like don't blay me this week, Steve.

2611
02:11:00,400 --> 02:11:02,880
Speaker 2: This is how we're going to want He went along

2612
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:05,480
Speaker 2: as he said he was going to do whatever decision

2613
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Speaker 2: the coaches make.

2614
02:11:06,480 --> 02:11:09,120
Speaker 3: I will go along with it. The idea that this

2615
02:11:09,360 --> 02:11:11,080
Speaker 3: was his call, no way.

2616
02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:12,520
Speaker 1: That I'm telling you right now.

2617
02:11:12,680 --> 02:11:16,120
Speaker 4: If if Saquon Barkley walks into Nick sirian If he

2618
02:11:16,200 --> 02:11:19,440
Speaker 4: walks up to Nick Sirianni on the tarmac before they

2619
02:11:19,520 --> 02:11:24,760
Speaker 4: take off the game before the regular season finale against

2620
02:11:24,800 --> 02:11:27,040
Speaker 4: the Giants, and he says to him, hey, listen, coach,

2621
02:11:27,480 --> 02:11:30,760
Speaker 4: regardless of what you may be thinking, I'm chasing that

2622
02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:32,640
Speaker 4: record next week against my old team.

2623
02:11:32,720 --> 02:11:35,320
Speaker 3: And sirian said, without your starting offensive line.

2624
02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:39,080
Speaker 1: Well, then he but that's my point. That's my point.

2625
02:11:39,120 --> 02:11:41,440
Speaker 4: He he goes, hey, listen, you know I'm thinking about

2626
02:11:41,480 --> 02:11:42,600
Speaker 4: wrestling the line guy.

2627
02:11:42,520 --> 02:11:45,840
Speaker 3: Don't We don't I'm playing offensive line.

2628
02:11:45,880 --> 02:11:48,440
Speaker 4: What do you well, they started an offensive line, Steve,

2629
02:11:48,520 --> 02:11:49,920
Speaker 4: what are you talking about.

2630
02:11:50,080 --> 02:11:52,240
Speaker 3: The idea is they started an offensive line.

2631
02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:54,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, they rested some guys, but there were still five

2632
02:11:54,480 --> 02:11:57,480
Speaker 4: guys protecting their branderstand. There were still five guys opening

2633
02:11:57,560 --> 02:11:59,840
Speaker 4: up holes for a rusher. My point is this, if

2634
02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:01,200
Speaker 4: Sakuon Barkley.

2635
02:12:00,880 --> 02:12:02,480
Speaker 1: Said, I'm starting no matter what.

2636
02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:06,280
Speaker 4: Nick Sirianni couldn't say a word to the otherwise because

2637
02:12:06,280 --> 02:12:09,520
Speaker 4: guess what, You're gonna piss off Saquon Barkley. Then maybe

2638
02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:12,440
Speaker 4: he says to you, well, then good luck in the postseason, coach.

2639
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:17,040
Speaker 4: That's the seriousness of this thing. You gotta keep your

2640
02:12:17,080 --> 02:12:17,960
Speaker 4: players happy.

2641
02:12:18,320 --> 02:12:18,520
Speaker 1: Now.

2642
02:12:19,040 --> 02:12:22,280
Speaker 4: Would that be career napalm for Saquon Barkley, Yeah, But

2643
02:12:22,320 --> 02:12:25,640
Speaker 4: would it be career napalm for Nick Sirianni if he

2644
02:12:25,720 --> 02:12:29,560
Speaker 4: didn't Letuon Barkley start the game, if he was looking

2645
02:12:29,600 --> 02:12:30,440
Speaker 4: to chase that record?

2646
02:12:30,680 --> 02:12:33,440
Speaker 3: Also, Yeah, you can't do that in the NFL.

2647
02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:34,000
Speaker 1: You can't.

2648
02:12:34,120 --> 02:12:36,640
Speaker 2: I mean, if a coach has decided it's best for

2649
02:12:36,680 --> 02:12:39,120
Speaker 2: this team to rest our guys as many as we

2650
02:12:39,240 --> 02:12:42,400
Speaker 2: can and get ourselves ready to do the ultimate and

2651
02:12:42,440 --> 02:12:45,960
Speaker 2: that's win an NFL championship, and then Barkley says, yeah,

2652
02:12:46,000 --> 02:12:49,440
Speaker 2: but now I have a once in a lifetime opportunity.

2653
02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:51,480
Speaker 3: Coach, I know you want to rest anybody. That's why

2654
02:12:51,560 --> 02:12:52,200
Speaker 3: I want to play.

2655
02:12:53,560 --> 02:12:57,040
Speaker 4: Coaches give the presence of making all the decisions, or

2656
02:12:57,040 --> 02:13:00,000
Speaker 4: they give you the impression of making all the decision

2657
02:13:00,320 --> 02:13:02,840
Speaker 4: In the NFL, I'm telling you right now, Steven, you

2658
02:13:02,920 --> 02:13:04,640
Speaker 4: know this as well as I do. You've been around

2659
02:13:04,640 --> 02:13:06,560
Speaker 4: this game for a long time too, and you've covered

2660
02:13:06,560 --> 02:13:10,240
Speaker 4: it forever. Players make decisions. Do you think that Bill

2661
02:13:10,280 --> 02:13:14,480
Speaker 4: Belichick was happy that the final eight years while Tom

2662
02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:17,040
Speaker 4: Brady was his starting quarterback, he got to pick and

2663
02:13:17,120 --> 02:13:20,560
Speaker 4: choose when he showed up for offseason training activities. You

2664
02:13:20,600 --> 02:13:23,680
Speaker 4: don't think that he wanted tom Brady under his watchful

2665
02:13:23,760 --> 02:13:27,080
Speaker 4: I practicing with the team the whole time during OTAs.

2666
02:13:27,240 --> 02:13:29,880
Speaker 4: The answer is, he absolutely would. But guess what tom

2667
02:13:29,920 --> 02:13:33,800
Speaker 4: Brady had real sway in New England. Robert Craft was

2668
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:36,400
Speaker 4: like a second father to him. Tom Brady could do

2669
02:13:36,480 --> 02:13:39,320
Speaker 4: no wrong in Robert Craft's eyes. So if Bill Belichick

2670
02:13:39,360 --> 02:13:41,920
Speaker 4: really had any problems with what was going on, he

2671
02:13:41,960 --> 02:13:43,200
Speaker 4: could do whatever he wanted.

2672
02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:45,480
Speaker 1: That's the truth. Now, don't get me wrong.

2673
02:13:45,600 --> 02:13:47,720
Speaker 4: They were still winning Super Bowls and Tom Brady was

2674
02:13:47,760 --> 02:13:49,920
Speaker 4: playing at a high level, and so there wasn't a

2675
02:13:49,960 --> 02:13:53,320
Speaker 4: lot of slander or anybody could heave tom Brady's way

2676
02:13:53,360 --> 02:13:55,360
Speaker 4: for the time he took off during the offseason.

2677
02:13:55,720 --> 02:13:57,040
Speaker 1: But my point is made.

2678
02:13:57,480 --> 02:14:01,560
Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley is the Philadelphia Eagles this year. What Saquon

2679
02:14:01,680 --> 02:14:05,600
Speaker 4: wanted to happen is what would have happened in that

2680
02:14:05,600 --> 02:14:09,600
Speaker 4: that regular season finale. Fortunately for Nick Sirianni, he didn't

2681
02:14:09,600 --> 02:14:12,840
Speaker 4: have to cross that bridge because Saquon Barkley gave him,

2682
02:14:13,240 --> 02:14:16,480
Speaker 4: gave him endoubt him with the ability to make the

2683
02:14:16,520 --> 02:14:20,680
Speaker 4: decision quote unquote for Saquon. But I promise you, if

2684
02:14:20,720 --> 02:14:23,960
Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley wanted to start in that game, he could

2685
02:14:23,960 --> 02:14:26,080
Speaker 4: have put his foot down and he would have played

2686
02:14:26,120 --> 02:14:27,720
Speaker 4: in that final regular season game.

2687
02:14:27,760 --> 02:14:30,320
Speaker 2: Well this I promise you, knowing the history of Philadelphia

2688
02:14:30,360 --> 02:14:33,000
Speaker 2: Eagle fans, if he lays an egg today and the

2689
02:14:33,040 --> 02:14:35,320
Speaker 2: Eagles lay an egg, they will get booed right off

2690
02:14:35,320 --> 02:14:35,680
Speaker 2: the field.

2691
02:14:35,800 --> 02:14:36,560
Speaker 1: Oh I agree with that.

2692
02:14:36,600 --> 02:14:38,840
Speaker 3: They will get booed right off the field.

2693
02:14:38,880 --> 02:14:41,720
Speaker 2: All Right, We've got kickoff coming up here shortly between

2694
02:14:41,760 --> 02:14:43,160
Speaker 2: the Packers and the Eagles.

2695
02:14:43,160 --> 02:14:45,520
Speaker 3: We'll have all the latest for you. This is Red

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02:14:45,640 --> 02:14:46,280
Speaker 3: Zone Radio.

2697
02:14:46,840 --> 02:14:49,280
Speaker 2: All right, once scam, we are live from the tire

2698
02:14:49,280 --> 02:14:52,800
Speaker 2: IRAQ dot com studios, getting ready for the kickoff between

2699
02:14:52,840 --> 02:14:55,840
Speaker 2: the Packers and the Eagles.

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02:14:56,440 --> 02:14:58,880
Speaker 3: I want to divert back if I could here rich

2701
02:14:59,680 --> 02:15:00,879
Speaker 3: to the situation.

2702
02:15:01,200 --> 02:15:04,480
Speaker 2: So there's an update now that the one guy the

2703
02:15:04,560 --> 02:15:10,160
Speaker 2: Raiders are not interested in is Dion Sanders. Dion Sanders

2704
02:15:10,440 --> 02:15:12,600
Speaker 2: has said the only way he would coach in the

2705
02:15:12,680 --> 02:15:15,640
Speaker 2: NFL is if it would allow him to coach his sons.

2706
02:15:16,920 --> 02:15:19,000
Speaker 2: And of course the Raiders because they won a couple

2707
02:15:19,040 --> 02:15:21,920
Speaker 2: of late games, maybe part of the reason Antonio Pierce

2708
02:15:21,960 --> 02:15:26,560
Speaker 2: got fired. Uh, they dropped to sixth in the draft,

2709
02:15:26,640 --> 02:15:30,840
Speaker 2: so the chances of them getting Shador Sanders at six

2710
02:15:30,920 --> 02:15:34,600
Speaker 2: would be zero unless they were to make some kind

2711
02:15:34,600 --> 02:15:37,400
Speaker 2: of trade up in the draft to get him.

2712
02:15:37,760 --> 02:15:41,440
Speaker 3: But I'm looking at some of the other people they absolutely.

2713
02:15:40,760 --> 02:15:42,840
Speaker 2: Have interested in his head coach, and I want to

2714
02:15:42,880 --> 02:15:46,760
Speaker 2: ask you about two of these guys you were mentioning

2715
02:15:46,840 --> 02:15:50,000
Speaker 2: earlier about Cliff Kingsbury, you know who. You know, I

2716
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:53,320
Speaker 2: had moments in Arizona's head coach and then it fell apart.

2717
02:15:53,360 --> 02:15:56,480
Speaker 2: But after what he's done this year with the Commanders

2718
02:15:56,520 --> 02:15:58,560
Speaker 2: and Jayden Daniels, you think this guy should get an

2719
02:15:58,560 --> 02:16:01,480
Speaker 2: out of the opportunity. Let me give you another guy

2720
02:16:01,520 --> 02:16:04,280
Speaker 2: that maybe is overdue for another opportunity to be a

2721
02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:07,040
Speaker 2: head coach, sure, and a guy that is interviewing for

2722
02:16:07,120 --> 02:16:12,440
Speaker 2: the Raiders' job, Steve Spagnola. So if you don't know

2723
02:16:12,480 --> 02:16:15,600
Speaker 2: the story about Spagnola obviously has made his mark as

2724
02:16:15,920 --> 02:16:18,720
Speaker 2: one of the absolute premier defensive coordinators in the NFL

2725
02:16:18,760 --> 02:16:22,880
Speaker 2: with the Chiefs piling up Super Bowl rings. He was

2726
02:16:22,960 --> 02:16:25,760
Speaker 2: the head coach for three full years with the Saint

2727
02:16:25,800 --> 02:16:30,160
Speaker 2: Louis Rams. His record in those three years was ten

2728
02:16:30,440 --> 02:16:34,640
Speaker 2: and thirty eight. He also had four games as an

2729
02:16:34,640 --> 02:16:37,840
Speaker 2: interim coach with the Giants in twenty seventeen. Add on

2730
02:16:37,920 --> 02:16:42,480
Speaker 2: those four games, that's a record of eleven and forty one.

2731
02:16:43,120 --> 02:16:45,000
Speaker 3: He's also sixty five years of age.

2732
02:16:46,320 --> 02:16:47,800
Speaker 2: By the way, he will not be the oldest guy

2733
02:16:47,800 --> 02:16:50,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you about, But is this a guy,

2734
02:16:51,000 --> 02:16:54,680
Speaker 2: based on his amazing track record as the defensive coordinator

2735
02:16:54,720 --> 02:16:59,440
Speaker 2: of the Chiefs, that you think maybe this time around

2736
02:17:00,520 --> 02:17:02,160
Speaker 2: it could be a different story if you got another

2737
02:17:02,200 --> 02:17:07,160
Speaker 2: opportunity to be a head coach. Yeah, Steve Spagnolo, Yeah,

2738
02:17:07,280 --> 02:17:10,320
Speaker 2: of course, four time Super Bowl champion. I think that

2739
02:17:10,840 --> 02:17:17,360
Speaker 2: when again, I want to pump the brakes on suggesting

2740
02:17:17,520 --> 02:17:21,800
Speaker 2: that any coach who's had opportunities to head coach at

2741
02:17:21,840 --> 02:17:25,080
Speaker 2: any level, the second time around it's going to go

2742
02:17:25,640 --> 02:17:28,440
Speaker 2: better than the first, because that's obviously not true. Josh

2743
02:17:28,560 --> 02:17:32,480
Speaker 2: McDaniels is a good example you know, and the list

2744
02:17:32,560 --> 02:17:37,560
Speaker 2: of retreads that have not worked out is long. However,

2745
02:17:37,600 --> 02:17:42,160
Speaker 2: I will say this in this game, experience matters. Experience

2746
02:17:42,320 --> 02:17:47,800
Speaker 2: at two particular positions on the entire roster, coaching staff

2747
02:17:47,840 --> 02:17:52,840
Speaker 2: executive staff otherwise really specifically matter, and that's head coaching quarterback.

2748
02:17:53,240 --> 02:17:56,360
Speaker 2: If you have an experienced quarterback and an experience head coach,

2749
02:17:56,400 --> 02:17:58,840
Speaker 2: it doesn't always work out, but it usually works out

2750
02:17:58,879 --> 02:18:01,800
Speaker 2: better than if you have a rookie who has no

2751
02:18:01,879 --> 02:18:05,680
Speaker 2: idea what he's doing, or you have somebody who is

2752
02:18:05,959 --> 02:18:08,880
Speaker 2: highly inexperience trying to do it for the first time. Now,

2753
02:18:08,920 --> 02:18:12,800
Speaker 2: it does work out where obviously rookie head coaches can

2754
02:18:13,480 --> 02:18:16,600
Speaker 2: work out great even with lesser experienced quarterbacks.

2755
02:18:16,760 --> 02:18:19,560
Speaker 4: We've seen it before. We've seen it before. But I'm

2756
02:18:19,600 --> 02:18:22,720
Speaker 4: saying overall, experience does matter. It really does help. So

2757
02:18:23,360 --> 02:18:25,520
Speaker 4: I think that his name should be one of the

2758
02:18:26,640 --> 02:18:30,000
Speaker 4: names higher up on the board of viable candidates for

2759
02:18:30,040 --> 02:18:35,320
Speaker 4: this run around the coaching carousel because he's done masterful

2760
02:18:35,440 --> 02:18:38,959
Speaker 4: job with a team that legitimately can win a Super

2761
02:18:38,959 --> 02:18:40,120
Speaker 4: Bowl again this year.

2762
02:18:40,360 --> 02:18:43,520
Speaker 2: Okay, now imagining he's not the oldest guy that's being

2763
02:18:43,600 --> 02:18:48,800
Speaker 2: mansioned tomorrow, the Raiders will be interviewing, by the way,

2764
02:18:48,840 --> 02:18:50,199
Speaker 2: Spagnola already interviewed.

2765
02:18:50,200 --> 02:18:54,200
Speaker 3: On Friday Tomorrow, the Raiders will be interviewing a guy

2766
02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:56,160
Speaker 3: by the name of Pete Carroll.

2767
02:18:56,800 --> 02:19:01,199
Speaker 2: So Pete Carroll is one hundred percent I want back

2768
02:19:01,240 --> 02:19:04,000
Speaker 2: in in the NFL. We heard initially about the Bears,

2769
02:19:04,400 --> 02:19:07,120
Speaker 2: but all of a sudden, Pete Carroll's on everybody's list,

2770
02:19:07,200 --> 02:19:10,600
Speaker 2: and well should be based on his track record at

2771
02:19:10,600 --> 02:19:14,360
Speaker 2: every level as a head coach. What is your gut feeling,

2772
02:19:14,360 --> 02:19:16,720
Speaker 2: will Pete Carroll be a head coach in the NFL

2773
02:19:16,760 --> 02:19:17,760
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five?

2774
02:19:18,480 --> 02:19:20,640
Speaker 1: I could see it. I could see him being back

2775
02:19:20,640 --> 02:19:21,359
Speaker 1: in the NFL.

2776
02:19:21,480 --> 02:19:23,320
Speaker 3: Will give me give me a list of teams that

2777
02:19:23,360 --> 02:19:24,599
Speaker 3: are most likely.

2778
02:19:24,640 --> 02:19:26,800
Speaker 4: To hire him in twenty twenty five, though, I was

2779
02:19:26,840 --> 02:19:29,119
Speaker 4: gonna say, I don't think he's.

2780
02:19:28,959 --> 02:19:29,640
Speaker 1: Gonna be hired.

2781
02:19:29,720 --> 02:19:31,240
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Yeah.

2782
02:19:31,160 --> 02:19:32,000
Speaker 1: I think that.

2783
02:19:32,320 --> 02:19:34,640
Speaker 4: I think if you look at a lot of these teams,

2784
02:19:35,320 --> 02:19:38,280
Speaker 4: like the Jacksonville Jaguars, do I think that they're gonna

2785
02:19:38,320 --> 02:19:41,520
Speaker 4: go for Pete Carroll? Probably not the Bears, the Bears,

2786
02:19:41,560 --> 02:19:43,760
Speaker 4: Do I think they're gonna go for Pete Carroll? Probably

2787
02:19:43,760 --> 02:19:46,800
Speaker 4: not the Raiders. I could see the Bears being very

2788
02:19:46,840 --> 02:19:50,480
Speaker 4: interested in Ben Johnson. I could see the Raiders being

2789
02:19:50,600 --> 02:19:56,640
Speaker 4: very interested in coach prime in Dion Sanders, especially Shador

2790
02:19:56,800 --> 02:19:59,400
Speaker 4: moving on into the draft. He might end up in Tennessee,

2791
02:19:59,400 --> 02:20:01,240
Speaker 4: he might end up in New York. Who knows where

2792
02:20:01,280 --> 02:20:04,760
Speaker 4: he ends up. But I mean, with the Giants standing

2793
02:20:04,840 --> 02:20:09,600
Speaker 4: pat On, Brian Dabole, and the question as to whether

2794
02:20:09,720 --> 02:20:14,000
Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys will move on from Mike McCarthy still looming,

2795
02:20:14,760 --> 02:20:16,680
Speaker 4: I mean, is there a spot on the Bengo board

2796
02:20:16,680 --> 02:20:18,920
Speaker 4: where you feel strongly Pee Carroll is a good fit?

2797
02:20:20,480 --> 02:20:21,640
Speaker 3: Where is he a bad fit?

2798
02:20:22,200 --> 02:20:22,920
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying.

2799
02:20:23,000 --> 02:20:27,240
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, based on the philosophy and the prior

2800
02:20:27,520 --> 02:20:29,720
Speaker 4: hires for a lot of these teams, I just don't

2801
02:20:29,760 --> 02:20:31,560
Speaker 4: see the Bears hiring Pe Carroll.

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02:20:31,920 --> 02:20:34,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, if the philosophy is, can we

2803
02:20:34,720 --> 02:20:37,000
Speaker 2: find somebody in here that knows how to win?

2804
02:20:37,959 --> 02:20:38,199
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2805
02:20:38,200 --> 02:20:39,879
Speaker 3: I mean I mean, I mean.

2806
02:20:39,720 --> 02:20:42,280
Speaker 2: That would be sort of My priority is, like, all right,

2807
02:20:42,320 --> 02:20:44,040
Speaker 2: what do we need in a head coach? How about

2808
02:20:44,120 --> 02:20:47,720
Speaker 2: actually somebody not only knows how to win, but actually

2809
02:20:47,720 --> 02:20:49,480
Speaker 2: has a proven record of winning.

2810
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Speaker 4: I mean, what you heard from guys like Richard Sherman

2811
02:20:53,320 --> 02:20:58,040
Speaker 4: and Marshawn Lynch was that the longer it got on,

2812
02:20:58,360 --> 02:21:01,520
Speaker 4: the staler of the message from Carroll, the longer it

2813
02:21:01,560 --> 02:21:04,440
Speaker 4: got on, the harder it was for to relate to

2814
02:21:04,520 --> 02:21:08,760
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, because he became more and more I don't

2815
02:21:08,800 --> 02:21:11,640
Speaker 4: know what the word is, sort of ensconced in himself

2816
02:21:11,760 --> 02:21:13,880
Speaker 4: like he was. It was almost like a walled garden

2817
02:21:13,959 --> 02:21:17,280
Speaker 4: around him, you know. So I don't I don't really,

2818
02:21:18,200 --> 02:21:23,280
Speaker 4: I don't really know if if that that vibe that

2819
02:21:23,360 --> 02:21:25,520
Speaker 4: he left Seattle.

2820
02:21:24,959 --> 02:21:28,240
Speaker 2: With, well, he's not gonna stay anywhere longer than he

2821
02:21:28,280 --> 02:21:33,080
Speaker 2: did in Seattle. I mean no, no, he's seventy Let's

2822
02:21:33,120 --> 02:21:34,840
Speaker 2: see here, he's seventy three years old.

2823
02:21:34,959 --> 02:21:38,400
Speaker 4: I could sooner see Bill Belichick being hired this round

2824
02:21:38,440 --> 02:21:40,920
Speaker 4: in the coaching carousel than pe.

2825
02:21:40,720 --> 02:21:42,640
Speaker 2: Care Oh okay, I'm going to get into that on

2826
02:21:42,680 --> 02:21:46,880
Speaker 2: the other side, But first let's find out what's again,

2827
02:21:47,440 --> 02:21:51,680
Speaker 2: what is a trending? And after a full season of

2828
02:21:51,720 --> 02:21:54,080
Speaker 2: Red Zone Radio, Monci and by the way, how.

2829
02:21:54,000 --> 02:21:55,120
Speaker 3: Quick did this season go?

2830
02:21:57,680 --> 02:22:01,760
Speaker 2: You know, this team has been together for several years

2831
02:22:01,800 --> 02:22:04,720
Speaker 2: now with Red Zone Radio, and we're just like week one,

2832
02:22:04,760 --> 02:22:07,760
Speaker 2: It's like you're ready to go, And I was like, well,

2833
02:22:07,760 --> 02:22:10,480
Speaker 2: it's my first time, so I'm well prepared this time.

2834
02:22:10,560 --> 02:22:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, eight or nine games the first week, and it

2835
02:22:13,040 --> 02:22:14,480
Speaker 3: feels like that was last week.

2836
02:22:14,600 --> 02:22:17,200
Speaker 6: It really does so so fast, and then just when

2837
02:22:17,200 --> 02:22:19,800
Speaker 6: the holidays kick in and he goes by even faster

2838
02:22:19,920 --> 02:22:23,400
Speaker 6: those like five weeks. So it is crazy to have,

2839
02:22:23,680 --> 02:22:28,240
Speaker 6: well I would consider a slow Sunday compared to others,

2840
02:22:28,680 --> 02:22:31,240
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like, I know, that's crazy.

2841
02:22:31,560 --> 02:22:32,200
Speaker 1: Game we had.

2842
02:22:32,480 --> 02:22:35,000
Speaker 2: We've had three games so far and none of these

2843
02:22:35,080 --> 02:22:36,640
Speaker 2: AFC wild Card games.

2844
02:22:36,840 --> 02:22:38,840
Speaker 3: Either way, why did they do that?

2845
02:22:39,040 --> 02:22:41,959
Speaker 2: I'm not entirely sure games were the AFC games and

2846
02:22:42,000 --> 02:22:42,920
Speaker 2: now we're going to get.

2847
02:22:42,800 --> 02:22:44,599
Speaker 3: The three Yeah, screames.

2848
02:22:44,760 --> 02:22:46,360
Speaker 1: By the way, I agree with you.

2849
02:22:46,600 --> 02:22:49,320
Speaker 4: Is it shocking to either of you at all that

2850
02:22:49,440 --> 02:22:53,840
Speaker 4: after scoring that first touchdown, Denver went scoreless and the

2851
02:22:53,840 --> 02:22:57,320
Speaker 4: Bills just I mean, was it thirty one unanswered scores?

2852
02:22:57,440 --> 02:22:57,680
Speaker 6: Yes?

2853
02:22:58,080 --> 02:22:59,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm shocked that they were.

2854
02:23:00,120 --> 02:23:02,160
Speaker 4: That could have the Gates, that had a little momentum

2855
02:23:02,200 --> 02:23:05,320
Speaker 4: going and it just completely faded in the first half

2856
02:23:06,200 --> 02:23:07,400
Speaker 4: the Chargers.

2857
02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:08,360
Speaker 1: A little bit like the.

2858
02:23:10,040 --> 02:23:14,200
Speaker 6: Sort of circle back to that. Yes, no, it's it

2859
02:23:14,280 --> 02:23:16,920
Speaker 6: is incredible that the Broncos didn't score at all, not

2860
02:23:17,480 --> 02:23:18,800
Speaker 6: even in a field goal. I know they went for

2861
02:23:18,840 --> 02:23:22,160
Speaker 6: it at one point, but really like they just yeah,

2862
02:23:22,200 --> 02:23:25,480
Speaker 6: they fell super flat, while the Bills just came out swinging,

2863
02:23:25,640 --> 02:23:28,080
Speaker 6: specifically in the second half. Thirty one to seven was

2864
02:23:28,080 --> 02:23:31,000
Speaker 6: the final score there. But Josh Allen twenty of twenty

2865
02:23:31,040 --> 02:23:34,199
Speaker 6: six two hundred and seventy two yards, two touchdowns, James

2866
02:23:34,200 --> 02:23:37,040
Speaker 6: Cook twenty three carries one hundred and twenty three yards

2867
02:23:37,040 --> 02:23:41,160
Speaker 6: and a touchdown. Bo Nix in his first postseason game

2868
02:23:41,680 --> 02:23:44,280
Speaker 6: thirteen of twenty two one hundred and forty four yards

2869
02:23:44,320 --> 02:23:47,560
Speaker 6: and a touchdown. So everyone obviously waiting for the next

2870
02:23:47,560 --> 02:23:49,840
Speaker 6: matchup for the Bills, which will be the Ravens in

2871
02:23:49,879 --> 02:23:53,160
Speaker 6: the AFC Divisional Round. There is no date yet, but

2872
02:23:53,200 --> 02:23:55,760
Speaker 6: it's either gonna be Saturday or Sunday of next weekend,

2873
02:23:55,800 --> 02:23:58,720
Speaker 6: but we don't have an exact date yet. Starting any

2874
02:23:58,800 --> 02:24:02,240
Speaker 6: second now will be the NFC Wildcard Playoffs.

2875
02:24:01,760 --> 02:24:03,640
Speaker 3: Starting with the Packers and the Eagles.

2876
02:24:03,840 --> 02:24:06,320
Speaker 6: Again it's about to start, and then the Buccaneers and

2877
02:24:06,320 --> 02:24:09,680
Speaker 6: Commanders will play later today at eight eastern. Mike Vrabel,

2878
02:24:09,760 --> 02:24:12,560
Speaker 6: as we all expected, will be the new Patriots head coach.

2879
02:24:12,640 --> 02:24:15,119
Speaker 6: He knows them. He played eight seasons in New England,

2880
02:24:15,200 --> 02:24:17,600
Speaker 6: won three Super Bowls there his member the team's Hall

2881
02:24:17,640 --> 02:24:18,119
Speaker 6: of Fame.

2882
02:24:18,360 --> 02:24:19,640
Speaker 3: Bears are still looking.

2883
02:24:19,360 --> 02:24:21,720
Speaker 6: For their next head coach in the NFL Network reports

2884
02:24:21,720 --> 02:24:24,840
Speaker 6: that they're interested in interviewing Notre Dame head coach Marcus

2885
02:24:24,840 --> 02:24:28,320
Speaker 6: Freeman about their head coaching vacancy. We've got some NBA

2886
02:24:28,480 --> 02:24:31,200
Speaker 6: going on, and Jalen Brunson is putting on a show

2887
02:24:31,320 --> 02:24:33,119
Speaker 6: at Madison Square Garden.

2888
02:24:33,440 --> 02:24:35,080
Speaker 3: They just got going. In the third quarter.

2889
02:24:35,400 --> 02:24:37,600
Speaker 6: He has thirty two points and the Knicks are beating

2890
02:24:37,600 --> 02:24:40,600
Speaker 6: the Bucks eighty five to sixty two. Damian Lillard has

2891
02:24:40,640 --> 02:24:44,800
Speaker 6: fifteen points for Milwaukee. The Nuggets are coming in closer

2892
02:24:44,879 --> 02:24:47,160
Speaker 6: to the maps the MAVs were winning with Al Kyrie.

2893
02:24:47,320 --> 02:24:50,360
Speaker 6: Without Lukadancic, They're still on top, sixty seven to sixty

2894
02:24:50,400 --> 02:24:53,320
Speaker 6: four halfway through the third quarter. Late in the second quarter,

2895
02:24:53,600 --> 02:24:56,800
Speaker 6: the Bulls are beating the Kings fifty nine to fifty six.

2896
02:24:56,879 --> 02:24:59,640
Speaker 6: Of course, de Monte Sebonis almost already has a triple

2897
02:24:59,680 --> 02:25:03,000
Speaker 6: double eight points, nine rebounds of the seven assists with

2898
02:25:03,240 --> 02:25:04,000
Speaker 6: one minute.

2899
02:25:03,720 --> 02:25:06,920
Speaker 3: Ago in the first half. Back to you, guys, h

2900
02:25:07,160 --> 02:25:09,400
Speaker 3: Monzi and men, this job jo.

2901
02:25:09,760 --> 02:25:11,600
Speaker 6: Should I point out to you that it did not

2902
02:25:11,720 --> 02:25:13,000
Speaker 6: go over It.

2903
02:25:13,040 --> 02:25:15,240
Speaker 1: Did on the Broncos. It did not go over.

2904
02:25:15,360 --> 02:25:19,640
Speaker 7: Did you notice that mister Harton who took me over yesterday?

2905
02:25:19,920 --> 02:25:22,800
Speaker 2: So I did sid it yesterday because I'm down to

2906
02:25:22,879 --> 02:25:26,080
Speaker 2: like seven points. We're on the Stapleford system that I

2907
02:25:26,120 --> 02:25:27,720
Speaker 2: was going to change some of the rules to pick

2908
02:25:27,760 --> 02:25:30,880
Speaker 2: against the spread and everything else. I mean yesterday the

2909
02:25:31,480 --> 02:25:35,440
Speaker 2: Ravens game against the Steelers. The over under on the

2910
02:25:35,440 --> 02:25:40,200
Speaker 2: game was forty four and I went over and the

2911
02:25:40,240 --> 02:25:43,879
Speaker 2: final score was twenty eight fourteen the Ravens. I was like,

2912
02:25:44,240 --> 02:25:46,280
Speaker 2: somebody give me a field goal because I had the

2913
02:25:46,360 --> 02:25:49,280
Speaker 2: bubble this way. I'm like, just give me a field goal.

2914
02:25:49,480 --> 02:25:49,560
Speaker 1: No.

2915
02:25:49,920 --> 02:25:53,959
Speaker 11: I literally was like, well news, well, I just Monzie

2916
02:25:54,000 --> 02:25:56,560
Speaker 11: is finding out what everyone has ever found out going

2917
02:25:56,760 --> 02:25:59,160
Speaker 11: head to head against me is that this is the

2918
02:25:59,360 --> 02:26:00,920
Speaker 11: like the freeze on the Bengal board.

2919
02:26:01,200 --> 02:26:07,960
Speaker 2: I will win and Montsi's gonna up. Okay, congratulations. By

2920
02:26:08,000 --> 02:26:09,840
Speaker 2: the way, don't forget after the show. Our podcast is

2921
02:26:09,879 --> 02:26:11,560
Speaker 2: going up, So if you missed any of today's show,

2922
02:26:11,600 --> 02:26:13,880
Speaker 2: be sure to check out the podcast. Just search Fox

2923
02:26:13,879 --> 02:26:16,200
Speaker 2: Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and follow, rate

2924
02:26:16,240 --> 02:26:19,039
Speaker 2: and review the podcast. Again, just search Fox Sports Radio

2925
02:26:19,080 --> 02:26:21,480
Speaker 2: wherever you gets your podcasts, and you will see the

2926
02:26:21,520 --> 02:26:24,440
Speaker 2: show posted right after the year. I was just looking

2927
02:26:24,480 --> 02:26:29,640
Speaker 2: at Kevin Burkhart and Tom Brady as they get ready

2928
02:26:29,680 --> 02:26:33,000
Speaker 2: to announce this game coming up, and it just hit

2929
02:26:33,080 --> 02:26:35,840
Speaker 2: me as I'm watching, you know, if you're Kevin Bergart,

2930
02:26:36,000 --> 02:26:38,720
Speaker 2: you're sitting next to Tom Brady, and as I say,

2931
02:26:38,800 --> 02:26:43,160
Speaker 2: Tom Brady literally looks like an AI person, Like he

2932
02:26:43,240 --> 02:26:44,320
Speaker 2: doesn't look human.

2933
02:26:44,520 --> 02:26:47,240
Speaker 3: Like everything is so perfect on him right now.

2934
02:26:47,760 --> 02:26:50,119
Speaker 2: You know the hair that he added, and I don't

2935
02:26:50,120 --> 02:26:51,800
Speaker 2: know what he's done to his face over the years,

2936
02:26:51,840 --> 02:26:54,800
Speaker 2: but like it's like perfect. And so I've been sort

2937
02:26:54,800 --> 02:27:00,440
Speaker 2: of watching Burkhart, you know, and Burkhart's hair. I don't

2938
02:27:00,440 --> 02:27:02,519
Speaker 2: know about how often do you get a haircut.

2939
02:27:02,240 --> 02:27:07,760
Speaker 4: Rich, I'm gonna say once every six weeks, maybe once

2940
02:27:07,800 --> 02:27:09,240
Speaker 4: every two months, right, I.

2941
02:27:09,160 --> 02:27:12,320
Speaker 2: Actually get one like every month, like once a month, Okay.

2942
02:27:13,080 --> 02:27:15,440
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at Burkhard's hair. He has good hair,

2943
02:27:15,640 --> 02:27:18,920
Speaker 2: and it's a low grayish but the way that it

2944
02:27:19,120 --> 02:27:23,840
Speaker 2: is groomed perfectly, yeah, tells me that he did it.

2945
02:27:24,000 --> 02:27:27,560
Speaker 3: He does it constantly. I know people like this. I

2946
02:27:27,600 --> 02:27:29,840
Speaker 3: know guys like this, you know, very conscious of their

2947
02:27:29,840 --> 02:27:33,039
Speaker 3: hair and everything else. They don't wait like normal guys.

2948
02:27:33,080 --> 02:27:35,160
Speaker 2: Where you get a haircut every you know, a month,

2949
02:27:35,320 --> 02:27:36,879
Speaker 2: you know, six weeks, two months.

2950
02:27:36,640 --> 02:27:37,320
Speaker 3: Whatever it might be.

2951
02:27:38,800 --> 02:27:41,480
Speaker 2: But part of it is, you know, being next to

2952
02:27:41,480 --> 02:27:45,680
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, because Tom Brady is literally like there is

2953
02:27:45,879 --> 02:27:49,959
Speaker 2: like it's like perfect, right, and so if your burke aren't,

2954
02:27:49,959 --> 02:27:53,840
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm really i gotta be perfectly groomed. So

2955
02:27:53,879 --> 02:27:55,879
Speaker 2: I'm looking like, you know, like the sides of his

2956
02:27:56,120 --> 02:27:59,680
Speaker 2: like there's you know, it's it's like the edges are

2957
02:27:59,760 --> 02:28:00,760
Speaker 2: per you know what I mean.

2958
02:28:01,200 --> 02:28:03,520
Speaker 4: You know when you get that, like when you're living

2959
02:28:03,520 --> 02:28:05,600
Speaker 4: in the suburbs and all of a sudden the house

2960
02:28:05,720 --> 02:28:07,480
Speaker 4: next to you and then the house on the other

2961
02:28:07,520 --> 02:28:10,920
Speaker 4: side of yours gets bought and and they turned it

2962
02:28:10,959 --> 02:28:13,160
Speaker 4: into like these giant old mc mansions, and.

2963
02:28:13,080 --> 02:28:14,200
Speaker 1: You're like, I can't.

2964
02:28:14,400 --> 02:28:16,000
Speaker 4: I don't have the kind of money to invest in

2965
02:28:16,080 --> 02:28:18,320
Speaker 4: putting a second story on my house, so I better

2966
02:28:18,400 --> 02:28:20,480
Speaker 4: keep the landscaping looking really sharp.

2967
02:28:20,520 --> 02:28:23,320
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, the edges are so sharp.

2968
02:28:23,400 --> 02:28:27,040
Speaker 2: I watch it every week, right, I'm like every I mean,

2969
02:28:27,040 --> 02:28:29,280
Speaker 2: you are to take a shot of the two of them.

2970
02:28:29,520 --> 02:28:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, every game they've worked this year.

2971
02:28:32,080 --> 02:28:35,520
Speaker 2: Their hair is the exact same way every week, and

2972
02:28:35,520 --> 02:28:38,920
Speaker 2: they work weekly. Yeah, so I just you know, I'm

2973
02:28:38,959 --> 02:28:41,680
Speaker 2: not sure what is grooming process, but I've just imagined that,

2974
02:28:42,000 --> 02:28:44,600
Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of pressure on that. Yeah,

2975
02:28:44,720 --> 02:28:48,400
Speaker 2: my review of Tom Brady's first year, he's far from bad.

2976
02:28:49,680 --> 02:28:51,959
Speaker 3: He is obviously well prepared.

2977
02:28:53,160 --> 02:28:56,520
Speaker 2: I think at times the problem for Brady, and it's

2978
02:28:56,520 --> 02:29:00,400
Speaker 2: not necessarily a problem for everybody, but he he gets

2979
02:29:00,520 --> 02:29:03,960
Speaker 2: very technical, you know. I mean that's the way he played, right,

2980
02:29:04,000 --> 02:29:06,400
Speaker 2: There's a reason that he was the quarterback that he was.

2981
02:29:06,800 --> 02:29:11,680
Speaker 2: He understands seemingly every defense, every offense, every play ever

2982
02:29:11,840 --> 02:29:14,360
Speaker 2: manufactured on both sides in the history of the NFL,

2983
02:29:14,440 --> 02:29:17,280
Speaker 2: at least in his history, and he wants to share

2984
02:29:17,320 --> 02:29:20,040
Speaker 2: that information with you, but he needs I would say,

2985
02:29:20,080 --> 02:29:22,080
Speaker 2: at the end of the year, say look, Tom, we

2986
02:29:22,160 --> 02:29:23,000
Speaker 2: know you know football.

2987
02:29:23,080 --> 02:29:25,720
Speaker 3: Okay, no one's going to question your knowledge of the game.

2988
02:29:27,040 --> 02:29:29,400
Speaker 2: And it's not like he's not self effacing, because we've

2989
02:29:29,440 --> 02:29:31,880
Speaker 2: seen a lot of that of Tom Brady. Certainly after

2990
02:29:31,920 --> 02:29:34,480
Speaker 2: he left New England and joined the Buccaneers. He's had

2991
02:29:34,680 --> 02:29:37,280
Speaker 2: plenty of fun at his own expense. I would just say,

2992
02:29:37,320 --> 02:29:38,720
Speaker 2: maybe a little more of that.

2993
02:29:38,800 --> 02:29:40,520
Speaker 8: Do you do you think there's a next year?

2994
02:29:42,240 --> 02:29:42,400
Speaker 1: Well?

2995
02:29:42,440 --> 02:29:45,160
Speaker 2: That is that is that is an interesting question. All right,

2996
02:29:45,200 --> 02:29:48,000
Speaker 2: so he's making thirty seven million dollars a year. I

2997
02:29:48,000 --> 02:29:49,760
Speaker 2: don't know about rich, but I don't know if you

2998
02:29:49,800 --> 02:29:53,160
Speaker 2: would walk out on nine years remaining on a job

2999
02:29:53,200 --> 02:29:56,000
Speaker 2: that's paying at thirty seven million dollars a year. Yeah,

3000
02:29:56,000 --> 02:30:00,240
Speaker 2: it's tough to walk but he is restrained because of

3001
02:30:00,280 --> 02:30:04,440
Speaker 2: his position with the Raiders, and maybe he wants to

3002
02:30:04,480 --> 02:30:06,959
Speaker 2: take on a bigger role with the Raiders, which would

3003
02:30:06,959 --> 02:30:09,560
Speaker 2: be difficult to do if you have to get ready

3004
02:30:09,600 --> 02:30:12,160
Speaker 2: each week for a national TV broadcast.

3005
02:30:12,280 --> 02:30:16,000
Speaker 4: I personally feel like, because Tom Brady is such a

3006
02:30:16,280 --> 02:30:21,680
Speaker 4: tireless worker that and such a successful person at things

3007
02:30:21,720 --> 02:30:24,920
Speaker 4: that he's dedicated himself to, I don't think he'd be

3008
02:30:24,959 --> 02:30:28,760
Speaker 4: comfortable walking away from broadcasting until he's convinced the majority

3009
02:30:28,760 --> 02:30:32,400
Speaker 4: of people that he's pretty damn good at this. And unfortunately,

3010
02:30:32,640 --> 02:30:37,080
Speaker 4: you know, football, it's pretty fact based, right, You go

3011
02:30:37,160 --> 02:30:40,400
Speaker 4: out there, you perform. There's not a lot of argument

3012
02:30:40,480 --> 02:30:43,880
Speaker 4: around who the great quarterbacks are in the NFL today.

3013
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:46,039
Speaker 4: I realize when you get to maybe the fourth, or

3014
02:30:46,040 --> 02:30:48,360
Speaker 4: the fifth, or even the sixth on the list, it

3015
02:30:48,400 --> 02:30:50,560
Speaker 4: gets a little bit more subjective, like, oh, I think

3016
02:30:50,600 --> 02:30:51,520
Speaker 4: he's really elite.

3017
02:30:51,600 --> 02:30:52,720
Speaker 1: Well, I don't, you know.

3018
02:30:52,760 --> 02:30:54,840
Speaker 4: But we know who the great guys are, we know

3019
02:30:54,879 --> 02:30:57,039
Speaker 4: who the next tier are. For the most part, we

3020
02:30:57,080 --> 02:31:00,560
Speaker 4: know who the third tier are. Tom Brady worked himself

3021
02:31:00,560 --> 02:31:04,160
Speaker 4: into that top tier in terms of NFL quarterbacks.

3022
02:31:03,800 --> 02:31:05,280
Speaker 1: And then there was no debating that.

3023
02:31:06,040 --> 02:31:10,240
Speaker 4: I think that he's at least going to work himself

3024
02:31:10,800 --> 02:31:14,440
Speaker 4: into the top tier of broadcasters doing this on the

3025
02:31:14,480 --> 02:31:18,200
Speaker 4: TV side, and then only then will he be will

3026
02:31:18,240 --> 02:31:21,360
Speaker 4: he feel like it's acceptable walking away. I don't think

3027
02:31:21,400 --> 02:31:23,959
Speaker 4: that he's going to feel comfortable walking away after one

3028
02:31:24,000 --> 02:31:26,920
Speaker 4: year of doing this, because I don't think the reviews

3029
02:31:26,959 --> 02:31:31,320
Speaker 4: have been to you know, his very lofty expectations.

3030
02:31:31,360 --> 02:31:33,120
Speaker 8: If he's going to have as big as big of

3031
02:31:33,120 --> 02:31:34,879
Speaker 8: a role with the Raiders as it sounds like he's

3032
02:31:34,879 --> 02:31:37,840
Speaker 8: going to next year. If I'm another team, I demand

3033
02:31:37,840 --> 02:31:40,240
Speaker 8: that he not broadcast. Then yeah, I mean this entire

3034
02:31:40,440 --> 02:31:41,000
Speaker 8: too much.

3035
02:31:41,080 --> 02:31:43,680
Speaker 9: This entire story with Tom Telesco has all taken the

3036
02:31:44,120 --> 02:31:47,760
Speaker 9: role of Hey Tom, this is the work of Tom Brady.

3037
02:31:47,800 --> 02:31:50,039
Speaker 9: Tom Brady is stepping in and putting his mark on

3038
02:31:50,080 --> 02:31:52,560
Speaker 9: and he wants the Raiders to go after Ben Jonson.

3039
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Speaker 9: That's not going to affect how other teams talk about

3040
02:31:56,200 --> 02:31:58,760
Speaker 9: his broadcast jobs him into your building.

3041
02:31:59,120 --> 02:32:02,520
Speaker 4: Well, I get well, he's already banned from doing that anyways,

3042
02:32:02,600 --> 02:32:06,120
Speaker 4: He's not this entire season. He hasn't been allowed into

3043
02:32:06,120 --> 02:32:09,160
Speaker 4: anybody's facility. He hasn't been allowed to watch any practices

3044
02:32:09,320 --> 02:32:12,600
Speaker 4: or access to practice film. He hasn't been you know,

3045
02:32:12,760 --> 02:32:16,320
Speaker 4: obviously there's rules about exactly what he's allowed to say

3046
02:32:16,400 --> 02:32:19,240
Speaker 4: during the course of a broadcast in terms of you know,

3047
02:32:19,560 --> 02:32:23,280
Speaker 4: the faming, you know officials, because of his you know,

3048
02:32:23,480 --> 02:32:26,280
Speaker 4: of his his role as a minority owner.

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Speaker 1: I think this.

3050
02:32:27,360 --> 02:32:30,720
Speaker 4: I think he continues on as a broadcaster, and I

3051
02:32:31,120 --> 02:32:34,600
Speaker 4: feel strongly about this. If if the owners want to

3052
02:32:34,760 --> 02:32:37,320
Speaker 4: change the rules, if they want to move the goal

3053
02:32:37,320 --> 02:32:42,480
Speaker 4: line to disallow a minority owner to also be a broadcaster,

3054
02:32:43,240 --> 02:32:46,200
Speaker 4: well then and only then will I see Tom Brady

3055
02:32:46,280 --> 02:32:49,120
Speaker 4: leave on anybody other than his own terms. But it

3056
02:32:49,160 --> 02:32:51,600
Speaker 4: won't be because other coaches are Would he.

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02:32:51,720 --> 02:32:54,560
Speaker 9: Rather be a more successful minority owner or a more

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02:32:54,640 --> 02:32:55,720
Speaker 9: successful broadcaster.

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Speaker 1: It's a great.

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02:32:56,360 --> 02:32:59,480
Speaker 4: Question, and I personally think that he's going to try

3061
02:32:59,480 --> 02:33:01,760
Speaker 4: to find a way to juggle this and do both.

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02:33:01,800 --> 02:33:02,160
Speaker 1: Well.

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02:33:03,440 --> 02:33:06,560
Speaker 4: I would say, you have to admit there needs to

3064
02:33:06,600 --> 02:33:08,879
Speaker 4: be more of an investment in the broadcasting side, because

3065
02:33:08,959 --> 02:33:11,000
Speaker 4: literally his face is all.

3066
02:33:10,800 --> 02:33:11,879
Speaker 1: Over that the Raiders.

3067
02:33:11,920 --> 02:33:14,480
Speaker 4: In terms of the Raiders, he's much more of an

3068
02:33:14,520 --> 02:33:19,680
Speaker 4: ancillary character in that conversation than the broadcasting conversation.

3069
02:33:19,920 --> 02:33:23,920
Speaker 2: By the way, the website awful announcing something I know

3070
02:33:24,000 --> 02:33:26,039
Speaker 2: you watch or look at every day.

3071
02:33:26,120 --> 02:33:27,920
Speaker 3: Rich God.

3072
02:33:28,640 --> 02:33:37,320
Speaker 2: So they actually ranked every single NFL announcing pairing or

3073
02:33:37,600 --> 02:33:41,960
Speaker 2: in some cases three man booths okay, and Kevin Burkhart

3074
02:33:42,000 --> 02:33:47,360
Speaker 2: and Tom Brady I believe ranked fourteenth. Okay, they were

3075
02:33:47,400 --> 02:33:49,320
Speaker 2: sort of middle of the pack. By the way, Number

3076
02:33:49,360 --> 02:33:53,320
Speaker 2: one Joe Davis and Greg Olsen.

3077
02:33:53,879 --> 02:33:54,600
Speaker 1: I could see that.

3078
02:33:54,680 --> 02:33:58,600
Speaker 2: I mean Greg Olsen is they have a leap ears

3079
02:33:58,720 --> 02:34:03,160
Speaker 2: now when you old people, viewers, everybody in the business,

3080
02:34:03,240 --> 02:34:06,400
Speaker 2: who is the best NFL analyst going on?

3081
02:34:06,640 --> 02:34:08,800
Speaker 3: They ranked him ahead of Joe Buck and Troy Aikman.

3082
02:34:09,080 --> 02:34:11,840
Speaker 3: They ranked him ahead of every other duo. They have

3083
02:34:12,160 --> 02:34:16,680
Speaker 3: number one, Greg Olsen with Joe Davis number one.

3084
02:34:17,080 --> 02:34:17,480
Speaker 1: Listen.

3085
02:34:17,600 --> 02:34:19,039
Speaker 2: I don't know what they say, and they say a

3086
02:34:19,040 --> 02:34:21,680
Speaker 2: lot of it obviously has to do with so Yeah,

3087
02:34:21,720 --> 02:34:24,679
Speaker 2: they have Burkhart and Brady at number fourteen.

3088
02:34:25,560 --> 02:34:29,440
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't doubt that the majority of people who

3089
02:34:29,600 --> 02:34:32,920
Speaker 4: view Brady and Burkhart and the Fox games that they've

3090
02:34:32,959 --> 02:34:33,959
Speaker 4: broadcasted on.

3091
02:34:34,720 --> 02:34:37,720
Speaker 1: Feel maybe similarly. But here's what I feel.

3092
02:34:38,160 --> 02:34:41,840
Speaker 4: I feel like Tom Brady over the course of his career,

3093
02:34:42,280 --> 02:34:45,520
Speaker 4: and this isn't dissimilar to other greats, has proven people

3094
02:34:45,560 --> 02:34:47,640
Speaker 4: wrong at every turn. You know, if you look at

3095
02:34:47,640 --> 02:34:49,680
Speaker 4: Tom Brady early in his career in the early two

3096
02:34:49,680 --> 02:34:52,519
Speaker 4: thousands with the Patriots, they called him a game manager.

3097
02:34:52,520 --> 02:34:55,760
Speaker 2: Says every turn. There's one thing he's done. Obviously great

3098
02:34:55,800 --> 02:34:57,840
Speaker 2: play quarterback. Well, but doesn't mean that he's going to

3099
02:34:57,879 --> 02:35:00,560
Speaker 2: be a great announcer. Doesn't mean it's like my kill, Jordan.

3100
02:35:00,640 --> 02:35:03,240
Speaker 2: I mean he was the best basketball player around then

3101
02:35:03,280 --> 02:35:05,040
Speaker 2: he tried to play baseball not so well.

3102
02:35:05,280 --> 02:35:10,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I agree, I agree with that that is true.

3103
02:35:09,560 --> 02:35:12,800
Speaker 4: The only metric I'm basing my side of the argument

3104
02:35:12,840 --> 02:35:15,240
Speaker 4: on is what I saw in the football field. You're

3105
02:35:15,240 --> 02:35:19,160
Speaker 4: absolutely right, and and the other things that he's touched

3106
02:35:19,520 --> 02:35:24,000
Speaker 4: really have been I guess propelled by his football career. Yeah,

3107
02:35:24,040 --> 02:35:27,600
Speaker 4: we're talking about promoting gear or promoting other brands that

3108
02:35:27,680 --> 02:35:29,720
Speaker 4: he has created during the.

3109
02:35:29,680 --> 02:35:31,199
Speaker 1: Course of his career or after.

3110
02:35:31,640 --> 02:35:34,000
Speaker 4: So those are very different things, or I should say

3111
02:35:34,000 --> 02:35:35,000
Speaker 4: those things are very much.

3112
02:35:34,840 --> 02:35:37,080
Speaker 2: Well, he was also part of the big promotion that

3113
02:35:37,160 --> 02:35:39,160
Speaker 2: turned out to be a disaster.

3114
02:35:39,840 --> 02:35:40,600
Speaker 1: Well he was.

3115
02:35:41,400 --> 02:35:46,120
Speaker 4: You're talking about the ftxtans, the cryptocurrency world burned a

3116
02:35:46,160 --> 02:35:49,480
Speaker 4: lot of celebrities. I wouldn't say that was his I

3117
02:35:49,520 --> 02:35:51,560
Speaker 4: wouldn't say that was his failure. I would say that

3118
02:35:51,600 --> 02:35:54,520
Speaker 4: was the failure of the people at the head of that.

3119
02:35:54,720 --> 02:35:58,800
Speaker 9: Okayamon takes more for that than Tom Brady and also

3120
02:35:58,959 --> 02:36:00,000
Speaker 9: but steering it back.

3121
02:36:00,000 --> 02:36:01,600
Speaker 1: So it's the broadcasting conversation.

3122
02:36:01,959 --> 02:36:04,920
Speaker 2: Look, the idea that everything he touches turns to gold

3123
02:36:05,080 --> 02:36:07,440
Speaker 2: is not all right, We're up up against it.

3124
02:36:07,840 --> 02:36:10,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, With the point is I think I think, I

3125
02:36:10,120 --> 02:36:12,560
Speaker 4: think he's going I think he's going to have success

3126
02:36:12,600 --> 02:36:15,480
Speaker 4: in the broadcast booth regardless of what awful announcing thinks

3127
02:36:15,520 --> 02:36:15,760
Speaker 4: of him.

3128
02:36:15,800 --> 02:36:16,119
Speaker 1: Right now.

3129
02:36:16,160 --> 02:36:18,080
Speaker 2: Again, either you like him or you don't. It's a

3130
02:36:18,080 --> 02:36:20,080
Speaker 2: simple thing. I mean, that's it. I mean, either you

3131
02:36:20,280 --> 02:36:22,080
Speaker 2: like what you see or you don't like what you said.

3132
02:36:22,080 --> 02:36:22,760
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going.

3133
02:36:22,720 --> 02:36:25,680
Speaker 3: To change minds. Red Zone Radio continuous, good all right.

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02:36:25,760 --> 02:36:28,920
Speaker 2: Red Zone Radio Live from the tirag dot Com studios.

3135
02:36:28,959 --> 02:36:32,080
Speaker 2: This will not be a repeat of last year's Packers

3136
02:36:32,120 --> 02:36:37,040
Speaker 2: Cowboys game because the Packers fumbled the opening kickoff. Wow,

3137
02:36:37,320 --> 02:36:40,680
Speaker 2: recover by the Eagles three plays later hurts the Dots

3138
02:36:40,680 --> 02:36:45,280
Speaker 2: and touchdown Eagles. So just like that, seven nothing Philadelphia.

3139
02:36:45,320 --> 02:36:46,160
Speaker 2: That didn't take long.

3140
02:36:46,480 --> 02:36:49,160
Speaker 4: This is a problem for the NFL. This is a

3141
02:36:49,200 --> 02:36:51,560
Speaker 4: problem for the NFL. Let me tell you why. You

3142
02:36:51,640 --> 02:36:56,360
Speaker 4: have three division winners absolutely dominate their prom their their

3143
02:36:56,440 --> 02:37:00,039
Speaker 4: side of the playoffs, and then you go to the

3144
02:37:00,120 --> 02:37:03,640
Speaker 4: NFC side and so far not so good. I mean,

3145
02:37:03,680 --> 02:37:07,880
Speaker 4: if you're gonna make the playoffs as a wildcard, Don't

3146
02:37:07,879 --> 02:37:11,920
Speaker 4: get me wrong, We've seen plenty of wildcard teams knockoff

3147
02:37:12,440 --> 02:37:17,640
Speaker 4: division winners in the wildcard round, but and get swept

3148
02:37:17,760 --> 02:37:22,280
Speaker 4: by division winners, especially only a few years after playoff expansion,

3149
02:37:23,120 --> 02:37:24,400
Speaker 4: it does not bode well.

3150
02:37:24,520 --> 02:37:27,920
Speaker 2: Well I'm gonna guess though, And we honestly we said that.

3151
02:37:27,959 --> 02:37:30,640
Speaker 2: I mean, we looked at these matchups. You know, the

3152
02:37:30,680 --> 02:37:33,920
Speaker 2: Bills were nine and a half point favorites. The Ravens

3153
02:37:34,000 --> 02:37:38,000
Speaker 2: yesterday were nine point favorites. Chargers were favored. I mean,

3154
02:37:38,000 --> 02:37:40,879
Speaker 2: we never thought that they would get They could lose

3155
02:37:40,920 --> 02:37:43,680
Speaker 2: to Houston, but not get blown out, yeah, like they

3156
02:37:43,680 --> 02:37:48,160
Speaker 2: did by the Texans. Philadelphia is obviously a healthy favorite.

3157
02:37:48,200 --> 02:37:51,640
Speaker 2: Over the Packers. What really brings us to the two

3158
02:37:51,680 --> 02:37:56,720
Speaker 2: remaining games? I mean, these I'm on paper, Commanders at Buccaneers,

3159
02:37:57,080 --> 02:38:02,960
Speaker 2: Vikings Rams in Phoenix should competitive games. Yeah, so I

3160
02:38:02,959 --> 02:38:05,920
Speaker 2: think we broke these games down earlier. But let's let's

3161
02:38:06,000 --> 02:38:12,000
Speaker 2: go for the record here. Is anybody going on the

3162
02:38:12,040 --> 02:38:15,760
Speaker 2: record and picking the Commanders tonight or is everyone going

3163
02:38:15,800 --> 02:38:16,320
Speaker 2: by no?

3164
02:38:16,480 --> 02:38:18,080
Speaker 1: I told you earlier?

3165
02:38:18,160 --> 02:38:21,440
Speaker 4: I think Jayden Daniels presents a lot of problems. He's

3166
02:38:21,879 --> 02:38:25,080
Speaker 4: the only rookie quarterback that I was backing heading into this.

3167
02:38:25,120 --> 02:38:27,680
Speaker 4: Other than that, I have division winners, including the Rams,

3168
02:38:27,720 --> 02:38:35,800
Speaker 4: So I'm I'm going to say the Commanders win that game. No, Okay, Okay, Chris,

3169
02:38:36,040 --> 02:38:38,840
Speaker 4: maybe a friend friendly wager maybe.

3170
02:38:38,640 --> 02:38:40,640
Speaker 2: Well, who are you taking in tonight's game between the

3171
02:38:40,680 --> 02:38:41,760
Speaker 2: Bucks and the Commanders.

3172
02:38:42,560 --> 02:38:44,520
Speaker 9: I think I'm going to have to take the Bucks here.

3173
02:38:44,760 --> 02:38:47,000
Speaker 9: Like I know, the Commanders are young, hot and fresh,

3174
02:38:47,080 --> 02:38:50,760
Speaker 9: but like this has been I mean, I think the

3175
02:38:50,840 --> 02:38:53,120
Speaker 9: Buccaneers defense is starting to be on the mend in

3176
02:38:53,160 --> 02:38:55,879
Speaker 9: the right way, and it's really hard for me at

3177
02:38:55,879 --> 02:38:58,640
Speaker 9: this point with how he's playing to go against uh

3178
02:38:58,879 --> 02:38:59,959
Speaker 9: one Baker Mayfield.

3179
02:39:00,840 --> 02:39:04,640
Speaker 8: How about you, bo, I'm never gonna pick against Baker,

3180
02:39:04,720 --> 02:39:06,080
Speaker 8: So the Buccaneers are gonna win.

3181
02:39:06,160 --> 02:39:08,080
Speaker 3: By the way, Monzi and I A, I'm the Rikord.

3182
02:39:08,120 --> 02:39:10,720
Speaker 2: You can check out our podcast from our show yesterday

3183
02:39:10,800 --> 02:39:13,280
Speaker 2: went through all the playoff games. All right, how about

3184
02:39:13,320 --> 02:39:17,560
Speaker 2: tomorrow night, guys, Vikings Rams in Phoenix, bo Who do

3185
02:39:17,560 --> 02:39:18,160
Speaker 2: you like there?

3186
02:39:19,120 --> 02:39:22,280
Speaker 8: I actually think the Vikings are gonna win that game tomorrow.

3187
02:39:22,440 --> 02:39:24,600
Speaker 8: I don't know. The Rams offense hasn't been good for

3188
02:39:24,600 --> 02:39:26,560
Speaker 8: a couple of weeks now, and I don't think one

3189
02:39:26,600 --> 02:39:28,360
Speaker 8: bad game from Sam Donald means anything.

3190
02:39:28,480 --> 02:39:31,240
Speaker 3: So okay, Chris, where are you going on that game?

3191
02:39:31,280 --> 02:39:32,800
Speaker 3: I think I've got to take the Rams here.

3192
02:39:32,879 --> 02:39:34,520
Speaker 9: I think they're kind of set up in a similar

3193
02:39:34,560 --> 02:39:38,040
Speaker 9: way to give the same defensive pressure that the Lions

3194
02:39:38,040 --> 02:39:40,879
Speaker 9: put on them last week. And I mean the emotion

3195
02:39:41,000 --> 02:39:43,279
Speaker 9: behind them with everything going into LA. I know it's

3196
02:39:43,440 --> 02:39:45,440
Speaker 9: you kind of take him out of Los Angeles, But

3197
02:39:45,640 --> 02:39:46,760
Speaker 9: I still like the Rams here.

3198
02:39:46,800 --> 02:39:48,400
Speaker 3: I like Stafford. I'm with you as well.

3199
02:39:48,440 --> 02:39:51,879
Speaker 2: I mean again, playoff game matchup between Matthew Stafford and

3200
02:39:51,920 --> 02:39:52,600
Speaker 2: Sam Donald.

3201
02:39:52,800 --> 02:39:55,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I trust I trust the Rams also more so

3202
02:39:55,920 --> 02:39:57,920
Speaker 4: for everything you guys just said, I mean it comes

3203
02:39:57,959 --> 02:39:59,320
Speaker 4: down to a very simple equation.

3204
02:39:59,480 --> 02:40:00,720
Speaker 1: Coach quarterback.

3205
02:40:01,080 --> 02:40:03,840
Speaker 4: Who do I trust more, Kevin O'Connell and Sam Darnold

3206
02:40:03,959 --> 02:40:05,720
Speaker 4: or Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford.

3207
02:40:05,760 --> 02:40:07,680
Speaker 1: The answer is very simple and very clear to me.

3208
02:40:07,760 --> 02:40:09,080
Speaker 1: I trust the Rams more.

3209
02:40:10,080 --> 02:40:12,560
Speaker 2: I'm watching this game right now, and this is getting

3210
02:40:12,640 --> 02:40:15,600
Speaker 2: away from the Packers real real quick.

3211
02:40:15,959 --> 02:40:17,160
Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere, folks.

3212
02:40:17,240 --> 02:40:19,760
Speaker 2: A lot more coming up, all these NFL games, and

3213
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Speaker 2: we got to cover right here on Red Zone Radio.