Speaker 1: Wow, Why everybody, It's Thursday, February sixth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We just want
Speaker 1: to kick this thing off already. It's me and your man,
Speaker 1: MG Marcus Grant, joined by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan
Speaker 1: Jones LQ. You are going to New Orleans looking forward to.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the food, to be honest, soon
Speaker 2: as I touchdown, I am getting the food in my body.
Speaker 1: Are you a seafood person.
Speaker 2: No, I'm alertic to some seafood. I think it's solsh shellfish.
Speaker 3: Okay, I did not know this about you. I am
Speaker 3: anti seafood all the way.
Speaker 2: Oh, let's go. But you also don't like turkey either,
Speaker 2: So no, I like turkey.
Speaker 3: I just think it's overrated.
Speaker 2: You don't like turkey?
Speaker 1: Turkey is Derek Jeter.
Speaker 3: There you go. Kareean Falcone is very upset with you
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know. I Look. I love Kareem.
Speaker 1: She's awesome. She does amazing work for us. She's just
Speaker 1: a really cool person. My Derek Jeter take sort of
Speaker 1: rankled her the other day. So sorry, Look, I'll just
Speaker 1: on Jeter. The diving catch into the stands. He catches
Speaker 1: it in fair territory. That's all I'm going to say.
Speaker 1: I'm still better about him making that flip and getting
Speaker 1: jokes slide Jeremy Giombi slide anyway, I'm just going to
Speaker 1: pretend I know what that means. We got our last
Speaker 1: rounds of exit interviews coming up on today's show, Picks
Speaker 1: twenty nine through thirty two.
Speaker 3: Pain.
Speaker 1: Hey man, we did my team like two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: so I don't really want to hear it. We will
Speaker 1: have a Super Bowl preview as well as we wrap
Speaker 1: up the show and gets you ready for super Bowl
Speaker 1: fifty nine coming up this weekend. I have really a
Speaker 1: lot of headlines. I don't know how much interest you
Speaker 1: guys have. The Josh Jacobs saying that he would love
Speaker 1: to reunite with Davante Adams in Green Bay. We talked
Speaker 1: about the Pack and whether or not they need a
Speaker 1: number one receiver, I mean, Florio Devonte Adams in Green Bay?
Speaker 1: Is he would that make him back to being I
Speaker 1: don't want to say a first round pick, but what
Speaker 1: could he be a mid second round pick in Green Bay? Possibly?
Speaker 3: I think other people could convince themselves to draft him
Speaker 3: there I will not be that person. I was fading
Speaker 3: him last year as a second round pick, and it
Speaker 3: was partly because of who his quarterbacks were, but it's
Speaker 3: also because he was thirty one going on thirty two.
Speaker 3: By the end of the next season, he'll be thirty
Speaker 3: three years old, and we already saw some decline in
Speaker 3: his metrics. So my rule of thumb is, when you
Speaker 3: have an agent player and you start to see slow,
Speaker 3: like little signs of decline, to just avoid it. Because
Speaker 3: we talk about it a lot like decline comes very
Speaker 3: very slowly and then all at once. So like, I
Speaker 3: don't want to draft someone this early if part of
Speaker 3: their range of outcome could be just not living up
Speaker 3: anywhere close to expectations and bottoming out. But it would
Speaker 3: be hilarious, Like the NFL is a reality show. The
Speaker 3: writers are just being like, let's get Adams back to
Speaker 3: Green Bay where he said he didn't have an elite quarterback,
Speaker 3: and now he chooses Jordan Love over Aaron Rodgers, Like
Speaker 3: that would that would just be hilarious?
Speaker 1: Actually want amazing? That would be pretty good of that happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, everything is is you know, times of
Speaker 1: Flat Circle. Everything's reboots and sequels and that sort of thing,
Speaker 1: So you.
Speaker 2: Know, why not does Green Bay even want him back?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: You know, like that's kind of weird that he would
Speaker 2: say that. That is a good point because he kind
Speaker 2: of left and just was like all right, I'm out
Speaker 2: to better things. That's kind of how it felt, and
Speaker 2: like I wouldn't want him back either, you know, like
Speaker 2: to be honest, like you got guys like Dadan Reed,
Speaker 2: you got Christian Watson you're hoping comes back from recovery.
Speaker 2: Like these young guys are developing well, and like if
Speaker 2: I can comparison to break the parallel on soccer, like
Speaker 2: when Christiano Ronaldo returned back to Manchester United, it might
Speaker 2: have delayed or kind of messed up. You know, Marcus
Speaker 2: Rastus's development being that he was a young player and
Speaker 2: now look where he's at now. Is that Ashton Villa
Speaker 2: right now? So you bring in the guy that gave
Speaker 2: the pop and gave the excitement, then it's like you're
Speaker 2: hurting the development of the young guys that you're actually
Speaker 2: getting some flow with.
Speaker 1: That's that's exactly what I was going to say. That's
Speaker 1: that's one hundred percent and it's not I was going
Speaker 1: to say, that's not at all what I was going
Speaker 1: to say. Soccer turns in analysis. I enjoy the sport,
Speaker 1: and I know, like I knew all the names involved
Speaker 1: and everything I was not did, but I also know
Speaker 1: you do this to to try and tweak me. Well
Speaker 1: that's why you say that too. So long as you know, dude,
Speaker 1: I peep your game. Contrary to the shack meme, I'm
Speaker 1: very familiar with your games. So that's what that is.
Speaker 1: All right, that's anyway, that's enough of that we'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean, right now, this is just this kind of
Speaker 1: idle chatter. It's Josh Jacobs sort of hining out loud
Speaker 1: to reunite with a former teammates maybe help his current team.
Speaker 1: I think that's about as far as that may go
Speaker 1: when it comes to Devonte Adams reuniting with the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. All right, into our exit interviews our final
Speaker 1: four teams. Now, I will preface this by saying picks
Speaker 1: thirty one and thirty two are not officially set yet.
Speaker 1: So we did these sort of buy records in the
Speaker 1: regular season, and that's how we came up with what
Speaker 1: they are. So we'll start with the Washington Commanders at
Speaker 1: pick number twenty nine. They had a phenomenal twelve and
Speaker 1: five season, got all the way to the NFC Championship games,
Speaker 1: certainly ahead of everyone's expectations. I would probably guess even
Speaker 1: ahead of the expectations of people within that building there
Speaker 1: in Washington. And when you talk about what went right, easy, easy, easy,
Speaker 1: easy answer is Jaden Daniels over thirty five hundred passing yards,
Speaker 1: twenty five passing touchdowns, nine interceptions, nearly nine hundred rushing yards,
Speaker 1: six rushing touchdowns. He was the QB six. Terry McLaurin
Speaker 1: another great season as well, over one thousand yards, thirteen
Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns. I don't think I realized he had thirteen
Speaker 1: touchdowns this year. He finished as receiver seven this season,
Speaker 1: so Florio as the number one. Jade and Daniels stand
Speaker 1: on this show. Any fears and you you tweeted about
Speaker 1: this and I sort of responded any fears that he
Speaker 1: pulls a CJ. Stroud in year two.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember what the tweet was that I sent.
Speaker 3: I tweet a lot, so.
Speaker 1: It was it was basically something to the effective of
Speaker 1: how like Jayden Daniels looks like, you know, a mid
Speaker 1: career vet or something to that effect, and I responded with,
Speaker 1: we said the same thing about C.
Speaker 3: Stroud last year, So I one hundred percent agree the difference,
Speaker 3: there's two differences. For me is one, I just think
Speaker 3: Jade and Daniels played better even than CJ. Stroud did
Speaker 3: last year, even if CJ. Stroud had these superior passing stats.
Speaker 3: But for me, I think what happened, what really made
Speaker 3: me feel good about Jaden Daniels is there was that
Speaker 3: stretch in the middle of the year where you could
Speaker 3: pull into a number of different things. He was dealing
Speaker 3: with the rib injury, which I think was the number
Speaker 3: one factor, but you started to hear rumblings of like, oh,
Speaker 3: our defense is kind of figuring out how to make
Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels uncomfortable and take away what he does best.
Speaker 3: And you started to hear stuff like has he hit
Speaker 3: the rookie wall and has he taken Cliff Kingsbury offense
Speaker 3: as far as it could go? And then he got
Speaker 3: healthy and looked even better and played even better and
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, like not just what he was doing
Speaker 3: with his legs and all the stats and everything that
Speaker 3: he has. I think it's arguably the greatest rookie season
Speaker 3: of all time. But the way he was able to
Speaker 3: go through his progressions and like just read a defense
Speaker 3: and not feel like the moment was too big. And
Speaker 3: this is going up against top defenses in the playoffs,
Speaker 3: like he he just looked even better and better and better.
Speaker 3: He looked unstoppable against the Lions. So I have no concerns.
Speaker 3: I've gone as far as saying that, not only for
Speaker 3: fantasy do I think Jayden is a top five quarterback.
Speaker 3: I think for real life, like clearly there's the Big four,
Speaker 3: but after him that I'm taking jad and Daniels right
Speaker 3: now over anyone. So no, I don't have those concerns
Speaker 3: because the Commanders have a bunch of cat they have
Speaker 3: their draft picks, like their supporting cast should be even
Speaker 3: better in year two for Jaden than it was in
Speaker 3: year one. And I know we could say that for CJ. Stroud,
Speaker 3: but like we talked about on the last episode, I
Speaker 3: think Stroud was more like efficiency luck. I don't think
Speaker 3: that was the case for Jade and Daniels.
Speaker 1: I mean, where are you with this, Laku? I mean,
Speaker 1: is is Jayden Daniels a top five quarterback for you
Speaker 1: next year? In fantasy.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, And I think what makes the difference between
Speaker 2: him and CJ Stroud When I was on this same
Speaker 2: podcast in the same room saying that CJ shrowd via
Speaker 2: top five lock this year, clearly that was wrong. But
Speaker 2: the difference here is that this dude almost had a
Speaker 2: thousand yards rushing, So the rushing upside is going to
Speaker 2: stay there. They're turnovers. I'm not worried about him getting
Speaker 2: that sophomore slump because coming out of college, his tendency
Speaker 2: is his meant like, his whole type of ordeal was
Speaker 2: that he's accurate and doesn't turn the ball over, and
Speaker 2: I think that's one of the things that he will
Speaker 2: carry throughout his career. So mostly looking at, you know,
Speaker 2: the his mechanics and everything that he brings to the table,
Speaker 2: He's obviously going to be a top five quarterback. And
Speaker 2: you know, this season with everything staying the same around him,
Speaker 2: with many with many people speculating that they do bring
Speaker 2: in a wide receiver too, that can possibly help Terry McLaurin,
Speaker 2: because I think that's one of the things that you know,
Speaker 2: that will elevate his game to an even higher ceiling.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're not We're not in on Diommy Brown necessarily.
Speaker 1: I mean, you had a couple of good postseason games,
Speaker 1: but I like.
Speaker 2: The Brown twins, like the Noah Brown and Diami Brown.
Speaker 2: Like I like them guys. But it's like if I
Speaker 2: can go out there and get a T. Higgins, like
Speaker 2: come on, let's let's let's go wild and balled out,
Speaker 2: Like let's get Miles Garrett on the defense, and let's
Speaker 2: get T Higgins.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Like I'm a huge Jayden of Dans fan now, but
Speaker 2: just basically just being wild every single game. You know
Speaker 2: that he's been doing, I mean for him to get
Speaker 2: to the playoffs as far as he did as a rookie.
Speaker 2: Like it's the freaking Commanders guys like Kingsbury he usually
Speaker 2: falls off at the end of the season, which you
Speaker 2: know if I've seen that closely being in Ranstrand with
Speaker 2: him as the Cardinals head coach. But it's just like
Speaker 2: the former is there, Like you don't have that, you know,
Speaker 2: animosity between the quarterback and coach anymore. Like it's like
Speaker 2: JD's locked in, he's ready to go. He's there early
Speaker 2: in the morning working out and looking at that film
Speaker 2: like He's doing all the things that Kyler wasn't doing.
Speaker 2: Not to make the comparison, but that's a big deal.
Speaker 3: He's what we wanted Kyler Murray to be all those
Speaker 3: exactly Arizona.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Kyler's in a ceiling right, Like we've seen
Speaker 1: the best of Kyler at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that.
Speaker 1: I would say that, and I think Jayden Daniel still
Speaker 1: has room to grow, which is going to be really interesting,
Speaker 1: really curious to watch life really interesting in the NFC
Speaker 1: East for the foreseeable future. With the Eagles, the Eagles
Speaker 1: are still going to be good regardless of whatever happens
Speaker 1: this weekend. The Cowboys are who knows the new commanders?
Speaker 3: Maybe let's go.
Speaker 1: Well, who knows well? Who knows what the Cowboys are doing?
Speaker 1: And the Giants are wandering in the wilderness for a
Speaker 1: little while too, So you know, this looks like a
Speaker 1: two team division at least for the next couple of years.
Speaker 1: Over in the NFC East, I'm I was looking at
Speaker 1: what went wrong. It was hard to pinpoint anything that
Speaker 1: went actually wrong. Look, the range of outcomes for Austin
Speaker 1: Eckler included him not being particularly great. He was at
Speaker 1: best this year.
Speaker 2: We could say that went wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1: I mean I was big on Austin Eckler, but I
Speaker 1: also knew that there was a distinct possibility that it
Speaker 1: wouldn't hit right, Like I was aware of that.
Speaker 2: Brian fifty Robinson had something to say about that.
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, because you, I know,
Speaker 1: are a big Brian Robinson gue, I mean, did he
Speaker 1: live up to your expectations this year? How do you
Speaker 1: look at him for twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2: No, man, I gotta be honest, and like, you do
Speaker 2: love that his usage in the red zones there, like
Speaker 2: you love the touchdowns that he was able to get there.
Speaker 2: But his you know, his usage in the passing game
Speaker 2: just dropped because of Austin Eckler. And it wasn't like
Speaker 2: Austin Eckler was completely better in that department. It's just
Speaker 2: that he just wasn't running the routes, getting the targets,
Speaker 2: getting the reception. So it's like that capped his fantasy potential.
Speaker 2: So it's like with them two eating off each other's plates.
Speaker 2: It's like one of those things where he just tossed
Speaker 2: up like, eh, I guess you know, because you had
Speaker 2: the outside of dicking that he was going to be
Speaker 2: an RB two, and then most weeks you were looking
Speaker 2: at like this guy has the shoulder injury, ankle injury, god,
Speaker 2: hamstring ankle, Like, dude, put him in a body bag,
Speaker 2: Like what is going on?
Speaker 3: Like Brian Robinson eleven point four fantasy points per game,
Speaker 3: Austin Eckler eleven points per game, so like it's less
Speaker 3: than half a point apart. And the annoying thing was
Speaker 3: it was like Lakwan said on the ground, all right,
Speaker 3: that work is going to Brian Robinson. In the air,
Speaker 3: that work is going to Austin Eckler. And I think
Speaker 3: that is one area where they can improve, is like
Speaker 3: being a little less predictable with your backfield usage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm curting confuse. So Eckler's contract actually runs
Speaker 1: through the end of next season. They could get out
Speaker 1: of it for I think a fairly minimal dead cap hit.
Speaker 1: You know, So do they do they bring him back,
Speaker 1: they run it back with the same backfield, do they
Speaker 1: try and do something else? I think that's going to
Speaker 1: be something to kind of watch with this team in
Speaker 1: the offseason. I think when they look at the draft.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Lakwana getting some help for Terry McLaurin. I
Speaker 1: think another wide receiver is going to be really important
Speaker 1: for them. So we'll see if they decide to make
Speaker 1: that move as well, or if they do it in
Speaker 1: free agency. You mentioned t Higgins. I mean maybe they
Speaker 1: go out and chase somebody like that, or if they
Speaker 1: do it in the draft. But either way they need
Speaker 1: something more consistent as their wide receiver too. Then you know,
Speaker 1: to go along, I should say with with Terry McLaurin
Speaker 1: there in Washington, you pick number thirty goes to the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills thirteen and for this season, another trip to
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship Game. Another heavy side there for Michael
Speaker 1: f Florio when he thinks about it.
Speaker 2: Please don't trade to pick Man, don't don't do that.
Speaker 1: Don't don't help the chief shout again.
Speaker 3: To trade it. Don't trade it to the team in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Man again, I see which I see where you're going
Speaker 1: with this.
Speaker 3: Crea talent, that's what this team needs.
Speaker 1: I see where you're going with this. What went right? Certainly,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, he had again he's very much in the
Speaker 1: conversation for the MVP award. Over thirty seven hundred passing
Speaker 1: yards over five hundred rushing yards. He had twenty eight
Speaker 1: passing touchdowns. He had twelve rushing touchdowns. He also had
Speaker 1: a receiving touchdown. This year, I finished as the QB
Speaker 1: two James Cook over one thousand rushing yards, sixteen rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 1: That was another number that jumped out at me. I
Speaker 1: don't think I realized he had that many touchdowns this year,
Speaker 1: a couple of receiving touchdowns. He was the RB eight
Speaker 1: and the Khalil Shakir very much a pleasant surprise this season.
Speaker 1: I know when you look at you say, well he
Speaker 1: was wide receiver thirty seven, Well yeah, but nobody expected
Speaker 1: anything out of Khalil Shakir and seventy six catches, eight
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty one yards, four touchdowns. The fact that
Speaker 1: he was a viable flex option for a lot of
Speaker 1: rosters pretty consistently during the year. Again, we all thought
Speaker 1: maybe this was going to be, you know, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Dalton kin Kid's year. Who are they gonna use
Speaker 1: it wide receiver now without Stefan Thigs. I mean, there
Speaker 1: were so many questions. I don't know that anybody thought
Speaker 1: Khalil Shakiir was going to be the answer.
Speaker 3: Hello, I really love Shakir in the off season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what were we talking about?
Speaker 3: You got two of the biggest Shakir fans right here?
Speaker 1: All right, So Shakiir right, not Shakira, right, We're talking
Speaker 1: about Khaleil Sir.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: That's that hips don't lie man, or that's what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. All right, So I sit corrected. I maybe
Speaker 1: I just didn't. I thought he'd be a nice piece.
Speaker 3: I didn't think he would be as good as he was,
Speaker 3: but I thought he would be He would easily out
Speaker 3: live his adp all right.
Speaker 1: I do want to ask you though, because obviously you
Speaker 1: watched the Bills closer than anybody here. James Cook had
Speaker 1: a very very good season. Is this the ceiling or
Speaker 1: is there more we can expect from James Cook?
Speaker 3: I think, touchdown wise, this is the ceiling, and this
Speaker 3: might be a career year. He scored sixteen rushing like
Speaker 3: you said, he tied the franchise record, I believe for
Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns like I'm not banking on that again, but yes,
Speaker 3: I certainly think there's more room for growth for James Cook.
Speaker 3: Because he had to play in Week eighteen when all
Speaker 3: of the starters were out for him to get a
Speaker 3: thousand rushing yards, but then you see the long burst
Speaker 3: runs that he has and stuff, so I certainly think
Speaker 3: there's more big plays there. Ty Johnson is what they
Speaker 3: do with him is a big indicator for James Cook
Speaker 3: because two years ago Cook got a lot of passing
Speaker 3: down opportunities, but he had a lot of drops. And
Speaker 3: then this year they were just like, we're going all
Speaker 3: Ty Johnson in two minute drills, third downs like obvious
Speaker 3: passing situations. And Josh Allen on record multiple times has
Speaker 3: been like Ty Johnson is the best third down back
Speaker 3: in the NFL. So they really love him and that's
Speaker 3: why he took so much opportunity away. But he's a
Speaker 3: free agent, and if they let him walk and they
Speaker 3: say Cook took the next stride and earns more work,
Speaker 3: especially because I believe they are going to extend James
Speaker 3: Cook this off season. If that's the case and he
Speaker 3: starts getting more targets, then yeah, then he could reach
Speaker 3: top five, like elite level Fantasy.
Speaker 1: I believe, Wow, were you comfortable taking him next year?
Speaker 1: A Lukwan?
Speaker 3: James Cook?
Speaker 2: He's one of those guys I would love to have
Speaker 2: in my RB two. I don't think I would be
Speaker 2: drafting him as my RB one, but like Florio said,
Speaker 2: if the touchdown department, if he could find the middle
Speaker 2: between ten and sixteen, I'm good with him as my
Speaker 2: RB two. I was off of him this season because
Speaker 2: I wasn't too sure what to expect from him, because honestly,
Speaker 2: I haven't been watching James Cook as much as I've
Speaker 2: been watching the other guys that are behind him. Like
Speaker 2: I already know about Ty Johnson being the thorn in
Speaker 2: somebody's back because he did it when he was with
Speaker 2: the Jets with Michael Carter, Like that's just kind of
Speaker 2: his role. So that might have been you know, my
Speaker 2: PTSD kicking in of like, oh no, Ty Johnson's in
Speaker 2: the building, bro, Like what's going on? Like he had
Speaker 2: a freaking receiving touchdown, which was amazing, by the way,
Speaker 2: in the back of that end zone from Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: I don't know I always saw him, but that's what
Speaker 2: he brings to the table, the unpredictableness in the receiving game.
Speaker 1: So that was just, you know, my price.
Speaker 2: But going into next season, I would love to get
Speaker 2: him as my RB too, you know, if I could
Speaker 2: lock that up.
Speaker 3: I think he might go as in the first round.
Speaker 2: Really, wow, this is a no first round running back podcast.
Speaker 2: Will I don't know if you understood I.
Speaker 3: I would not take him.
Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no, no, no, no no, don't put this
Speaker 1: on the whole pot like that's a you thing.
Speaker 2: We're in the first Are we taking Skon in the first?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not taking Sequon in.
Speaker 2: The first that's one. Also Bijon, he looks Jon. I'll
Speaker 2: say I'll take Bijon in the first. No, Ben Jonson's
Speaker 2: show Jamier give sits at that one ten through to
Speaker 2: one to twelve spot, which I'm okay with but still
Speaker 2: not comfortable with.
Speaker 1: But there's that. I mean, I could make a case
Speaker 1: late first for maybe Devon ah chan O.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep forgetting about him for some reason.
Speaker 1: Make a late first round case maybe for Kyron Williams.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, your boy Kyra at the
Speaker 1: end of the first.
Speaker 2: No, I have my own personal beasts about Kiren. But no,
Speaker 2: I couldn't do that. I don't see that production continuing.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't take Bjon or Gibbs.
Speaker 2: Gibbs at the one ten, two to one twelve. I
Speaker 2: don't feel comfortable with. I like their wide receivers that
Speaker 2: are going there, Like I like a Drake London right there.
Speaker 2: I like a Brian Thomas over there. Like I like
Speaker 2: those guys more than I like Gids without Ben Jonson.
Speaker 2: It's about the usage, like whoever comes in, are they
Speaker 2: gonna use? Are they gonna use? You know, the sonic
Speaker 2: and knuckles like who knows? Like that looks like a
Speaker 2: question mark to me.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't plan on taking James Cook in
Speaker 3: the first round, but like when we did our mock
Speaker 3: at the end of the year Marcus on Fantasy Live,
Speaker 3: like Patrick took him in the first round, and I've
Speaker 3: seen other people since then, especially after the playoffs, and
Speaker 3: he played so well, start to be like, hey, maybe
Speaker 3: this Cook guy is worthy of it. Again, I like
Speaker 3: it much more as like a second rounder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I'm think I make the leaping of
Speaker 1: the first round. But there are there are running backs
Speaker 1: I would take in the first round, not as many
Speaker 1: as in years past, but I can definitely pull the
Speaker 1: trigger on a couple real quick. What went wrong, Dalton can?
Speaker 1: Are you still ready to fire him out of a
Speaker 1: circus cannon to the moon? Floria?
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, he catches that ball right now, is
Speaker 3: the best week of my life? Like, instead, like, I
Speaker 3: don't know if you guys feel this way. I think
Speaker 3: the worst case Like, obviously there's worst case scenarios, but
Speaker 3: as a fan, the most painful scenario is your team
Speaker 3: losing in the championship game, because then there's a two
Speaker 3: week build up, especially if it's like if you're the
Speaker 3: Commanders and you just got dog walked, you're like, all right, yeah,
Speaker 3: this was a good year for us. We're young, we
Speaker 3: didn't deserve to be here. You lose, like the Bills lose,
Speaker 3: and yeah, you get two weeks of just being like this,
Speaker 3: this could have been us, like, but it's not. So Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm still upset with Dalton Kincaid. I still do think
Speaker 3: there's potential here and he's gonna be cheaper than ever.
Speaker 3: What I thought was very interesting was both the GM
Speaker 3: and the head coach called him out after the year
Speaker 3: and was like, he needs to put on more weight
Speaker 3: so that he and more muscle so he is more
Speaker 3: available to us. And you have found out after the
Speaker 3: year that he was playing through a number of injuries.
Speaker 3: They said the same thing about key On Coleman like
Speaker 3: he wasn't the same after he got hurt. He was
Speaker 3: a very different player. Amari Cooper kind of never really,
Speaker 3: So I don't know. As good as things went for
Speaker 3: the Bills this year, there was a number of players
Speaker 3: that you came away feeling like they should have been
Speaker 3: a lot better than they were in this offense.
Speaker 1: I will push back and tell you that as somebody
Speaker 1: who's a fan of a team who has lost three
Speaker 1: times in the Super Bowl since I've worked at NFL network,
Speaker 1: that's a pretty miserable That's a pretty miserable experience because
Speaker 1: working at the network, you have to come to work
Speaker 1: and they are showing the game on every television in
Speaker 1: the building for a whole week, and they are showing
Speaker 1: the parade of the team that Like, it's just a
Speaker 1: pretty miserable experience to work in NFL media when your
Speaker 1: team loses the Super Bowl, because you can't you can't
Speaker 1: duck it, you can't dodge it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least after the Super Bowl you could kind
Speaker 3: of be like, all right, see.
Speaker 4: Over now, everybody right down to your point, though, Marcus,
Speaker 4: after the thirteen second game, when I walked in the
Speaker 4: next day and that was on every single TV I
Speaker 4: just was like, please just end it now, like I
Speaker 4: don't want to relive this.
Speaker 1: Just want to burn Just want to burn the plays down,
Speaker 1: that's all. I just want to burn it down. Right.
Speaker 2: We will all my man's name from the office.
Speaker 1: Face Milton, Milton, Oh yeah, bring them. I mean to
Speaker 1: burn it down to bring the please them, bring it down.
Speaker 1: We still got two more teams in our interviews. They
Speaker 1: are the two teams that are playing in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: We will also have a Super Bowl preview for you
Speaker 1: that's coming up next here on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.
Speaker 1: Final two teams. As I mentioned at the top of
Speaker 1: the show, the draft order not officially set. It will
Speaker 1: be after Sunday and we know who the champion is
Speaker 1: that person or that team, I should say, well, I
Speaker 1: have picked number thirty two and the Super Bowl loser
Speaker 1: will have pick number thirty one. But for now, just
Speaker 1: going based off of regular season records, we are putting
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles at pick number thirty one. They were
Speaker 1: fourteen and three. Saquon Berkley is what went right for
Speaker 1: the Eagles and very much what went wrong for the
Speaker 1: Giants two thousand and five rushing yards, thirteen rushing touchdowns,
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy eight receiving yards to receiving touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He was the RB two. Now, mind you, this is
Speaker 1: going through Week eighteen. When you know Saquon or rather
Speaker 1: Jamier Gibbs needed very much to play for the Lions.
Speaker 1: I guess tek he didn't really have to. I guess
Speaker 1: he did. Either way, he finishes the RB one. Saquon
Speaker 1: What I noticed. I went back and looked two hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy eight receiving yards for a full season. That's
Speaker 1: the lowest number of his career, and nobody noticed because
Speaker 1: of what he was doing on the ground. I mean
Speaker 1: the fact that he ran for two thousand yards and
Speaker 1: had a legitimate shot to break Eric Dickerson's single season
Speaker 1: record had the Eagles held him back from that was
Speaker 1: easy to gloss over the fact that he just didn't
Speaker 1: do nearly the same amount of damage in the passing
Speaker 1: game this year, but still was absolutely phenomenal. Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: the QB eight twenty nine hundred passing yards, six hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty rushing yards, fourteen rushing touchdowns. AJ Brown Devens
Speaker 1: to Smith both good, not necessarily spectacular. Brown the wide
Speaker 1: receiver sixteen, Smith the wide receiver twenty four. But I
Speaker 1: want to ask about Jalen Hurts Lakwan because the passing
Speaker 1: yards down significantly this year. Didn't get to three thousand
Speaker 1: yards just the eighteen passing touchdowns, but the fourteen rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 1: How much longer can we rely on the tush push
Speaker 1: because that that's doing a lot of keeping him afloat
Speaker 1: fantasy wise. At some point it goes away, I mean,
Speaker 1: but it's also it feels hard to bet on it
Speaker 1: going away, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the league's not going to band it. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep on open on the opportunity to get
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. I mean, I'm not drafting him for the passing.
Speaker 2: I'm drafting him for the Toush push. Like we can't
Speaker 2: even call it rushing touchdowns. It's Toush push touchdowns. Like
Speaker 2: it's not even like him going off and like running
Speaker 2: around like Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. Like I'm going
Speaker 2: for the scoring opportunities. I'm going for him setting this
Speaker 2: team up for success to find the end zone and
Speaker 2: get the Toush push going. They're gonna They're gonna deploy
Speaker 2: that move every single time. It's like the special move
Speaker 2: on the one button on the video game that you
Speaker 2: cannot stop and you're just annoying your cousin. Like that's
Speaker 2: one of those things where it's like you want to
Speaker 2: rage quick. But I'm gonna take advantage of that in
Speaker 2: every single draft if I can do that. You know,
Speaker 2: this was my first year that I actually didn't draft
Speaker 2: jayla Hertz. I don't know why. I thought Saquon Barkley
Speaker 2: would play into, you know, taking away the toushbush. But
Speaker 2: here we are, the toushbush is still alive and low,
Speaker 2: and we'll probably see it done a couple times in
Speaker 2: the big games. So it's like, if the league ain't
Speaker 2: gonna a band it, I'm not gonna go against it.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't. I don't see any moves
Speaker 1: to stop this thing from being a legal play. It
Speaker 1: just is what it is.
Speaker 2: It could be stopped though, you know, like we've seen
Speaker 2: teams stop it before. It's just you can't consistently.
Speaker 3: The Chief stopped at numerous times against Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the snowplow bro It's a different formula.
Speaker 1: Other versions of it have been consistently stopped. But like,
Speaker 1: I feel like when the Eagles get stopped, it's because
Speaker 1: the Eagles messed it up, right, Like it's because they
Speaker 1: did something wrong.
Speaker 3: Isn't that just because Jalen Hurts is unstoppable on that play?
Speaker 1: He can squat six hundred pounds, as yeah told repeatedly.
Speaker 3: We heard in this offseason like oh well with Jason
Speaker 3: Kelcey gone, this play isn't going to be effective, and
Speaker 3: then halfway through the year it's like Saquon's not going
Speaker 3: to win MVP because Jalen Hurts getting over.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, look, as I feel like Jay, Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts is sort of the He's the keystone to this
Speaker 1: whole thing, right, Like he's the one that makes this
Speaker 1: whole thing go.
Speaker 3: This is a completely different conversation, but like it drives
Speaker 3: me crazy when people just like discount display and say,
Speaker 3: like he all he is is a touch point, Like
Speaker 3: that is a play that is is unstoppable right now
Speaker 3: in the toughest yard to gain on the field, So like,
Speaker 3: why is that a negative? Like to me, that's a
Speaker 3: huge positive.
Speaker 1: And again, as long as it's a legal play, if
Speaker 1: I'm the Eagles, I keep running it keep run into
Speaker 1: the wheels, fall off. Does I figure out how to
Speaker 1: stop it? Or you can't run it anymore? I'm you know,
Speaker 1: it would be dumb to take it out of your
Speaker 1: playbook just because other teams are mad about it. Like
Speaker 1: that just doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: Like other teams are copying it, Like we even got
Speaker 2: the Ravens doing and we're Mark Andrews, which there's no
Speaker 2: real name for it, but they were stopping multiple times,
Speaker 2: like a team cannot copy what they do, and it's
Speaker 2: a copycat league. So we're gonna probably see more teams
Speaker 2: next season try to do it too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Ravens we call it like the Poe push
Speaker 1: or something like the you know oh.
Speaker 3: Doing it went over my head.
Speaker 1: Everybody's having a QT name for it. Can't just be
Speaker 1: a quarterback sneak anymore. Now they all have to have
Speaker 1: QT names. So whatever, Florie, I want to talk to
Speaker 1: you about the receivers there right because Aj Brown, DeVonta Smith,
Speaker 1: they were good, not great. Both finished outside the top
Speaker 1: fifteen as fantasy receivers this year. Is Saquan being there?
Speaker 1: Does that mean we have to sort of downgrade them
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 3: Maybe a little? I think more than even that, Like
Speaker 3: there was just something off with Hurts as a passer
Speaker 3: this year, and I was super in on aj Brown
Speaker 3: this year. I thought like Kellen Moore coming over. I
Speaker 3: was pushing him over Justin Jefferson in drafts. And he
Speaker 3: gets hurt after Week one, misses the three games. But
Speaker 3: you look at his first like seven games that he played,
Speaker 3: and I was feeling like a genius. I was like,
Speaker 3: this guy is way better than Justin Jefferson on a
Speaker 3: per game basis, Like he might be the wide receiver
Speaker 3: one on a per game basis. He was that good.
Speaker 3: And then the results just kind of came crashing down
Speaker 3: and we're very up or down, and you had Nick
Speaker 3: Sirianni at one point being like, we need to be
Speaker 3: better as a passer, so as a passing attack. So
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's all on Saquon. I think
Speaker 3: a big part of it is when you have a
Speaker 3: rushing attack that effective and with that many big plays,
Speaker 3: you take away a lot of plays, Like if you're
Speaker 3: scoring a one chunk play, that's six seven plays that
Speaker 3: you could be losing on a drive something like that.
Speaker 3: So that does hurt. But more than anything, I think
Speaker 3: it was just something was off there. And if you're
Speaker 3: gonna give me a discount on AJ Brown next year,
Speaker 3: which looking at early rankings, it seems like we're gonna
Speaker 3: get that because he's the wide receiver nine right now
Speaker 3: in early rankings. Yeah, I'll just continue to draft him
Speaker 3: because I believe he is an amazing talent. DeVonta Smith
Speaker 3: is the one that I'm a little bit more weary
Speaker 3: of because not only does he have all those same
Speaker 3: concerns with the passing game and with Saquon, but he
Speaker 3: also has a target hog and AJ Brown on the
Speaker 3: opposite side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's sort of the hard part,
Speaker 1: right is that with with DeVonta Smith. I mean he
Speaker 1: did miss some time. Both guys actually missed some games
Speaker 1: with injury, but also the volatility week to week was
Speaker 1: a lot more noticeable with DeVonta Smith. So that's going
Speaker 1: to be something to kind of keep in mind. And really,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, like what Jalen Hurts is as a
Speaker 1: passer is going to have a lot of impact on
Speaker 1: what his past catchers do. And you know, look, as
Speaker 1: long as Saquan is there and continues to be as effective, again,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be two thousand yards
Speaker 1: worth of great next year. That's just me. But he's
Speaker 1: going to be good enough that he's going to get
Speaker 1: a lot of those opportunities. And you know, that's just
Speaker 1: fewer chances for Brown and Smith to get targets coming
Speaker 1: up next season. All Right, finally against City Chiefs. If
Speaker 1: you were not a Chiefs fan, maybe the most fit
Speaker 1: frustrating fifteen and two you ever saw. This was it's weird.
Speaker 1: So we you know, I did thirty one other teams,
Speaker 1: Well I didn't do all of these. Shout out to
Speaker 1: to Kyrie Douglas, who helped put together a lot of
Speaker 1: these for us, but that man, But I was like
Speaker 1: putting these together and looking at these, the Chiefs were
Speaker 1: the one that was the most frustrating to put together
Speaker 1: because I was like, what went right? And I was
Speaker 1: kind of like, I mean, for fantasy, like not really much.
Speaker 1: I mean, Travis Kelce had a good season, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't your vintage Travis Kelce season. Ninety seven catches, eight
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three yards, just three receiving touchdowns. He
Speaker 1: was the tied end five and then like what went
Speaker 1: wrong was just like Patrick Mahomes wasn't great, you know,
Speaker 1: like he was. He went a long time without you know,
Speaker 1: hitting a two hundred you know, a two hundred yard
Speaker 1: passing game or throwing a bunch of touchdowns. That was
Speaker 1: a big talk for much of the year, like hey man,
Speaker 1: like Patrick Mahomes is just a guy in fantasy. Xavier
Speaker 1: Worthy I really didn't pop the way people thought that
Speaker 1: he would bring sort of showed up. It was a
Speaker 1: nice piece, but it wasn't really great. Remember that day
Speaker 1: that everybody was on the Carson Steel bandwagon like that
Speaker 1: was a good That was a good thirty six hours.
Speaker 1: That was fun.
Speaker 3: I wrongly went on some much Ryan side of history, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, but that was sort of the point, right, Like
Speaker 1: Florid are are the twenty twenty four Chiefs the greatest
Speaker 1: bad Fantasy team ever?
Speaker 3: Probably, I mean probably even what went right. Travis Kelce
Speaker 3: was a disappointment because he was drafted higher than tight
Speaker 3: end five and you look at his game logs like
Speaker 3: very much. So like all right, he had four big
Speaker 3: games and the rest of the year like he was,
Speaker 3: he was disappointing. Mahomes was. I think in late in
Speaker 3: the year he got a little bit better, but I
Speaker 3: think you could make a case that Mahomes was when
Speaker 3: you factor in like draft calls and stuff, maybe the
Speaker 3: biggest letdown in fantasy this year. Isaiah Pacheco. I loved,
Speaker 3: I had him as a top five running back, but
Speaker 3: that injury he suffered early in the year, like has
Speaker 3: zapped him of everything. We have not seen him with
Speaker 3: the saint bursts or explosiveness or anything. Kreemont was solid.
Speaker 3: The one big positive from this team in my opinion,
Speaker 3: is Rashid Rice. And I know he got hurt and
Speaker 3: his season ended prematurely, but like you're gonna allow me
Speaker 3: to draft him as a wide receiver to next year,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do that all day long because I think
Speaker 3: in what he's shown us, Like I remember tweeting in
Speaker 3: like before he got hurt, like Malik Neighbors and Rashi
Speaker 3: Rice are like top five wide receivers the rest of
Speaker 3: the year, and then they both got hurt like shortly
Speaker 3: after that tweet. But yeah, I firmly believe in everything
Speaker 3: I saw at Rashi Rice.
Speaker 1: I also I was I was wrong. I granted it
Speaker 1: was a small sample for this year, but I was
Speaker 1: staying away from Rashi Rice just because I didn't know
Speaker 1: if they'd be able to manufacture the same level of
Speaker 1: touches and the same kind of production that they did
Speaker 1: in his rookie year, and again in a small sample size,
Speaker 1: the answer was unequivocally yes, yes they can. So you know,
Speaker 1: I guess I get a do over sort of on
Speaker 1: on Rashi Rice now. So I'm looking forward to that, absolutely,
Speaker 1: looking forward to it coming up this season. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the free agents, Lakwan, I mean DeAndre Hopkins, Markuise Brown,
Speaker 1: Justin Watson, some JP Ron, Juju Smith, Schuster, Kareem Hunt,
Speaker 1: Mikole Hardman. Is this team pointing to look vastly different
Speaker 1: next year? And what are we? I mean, are we
Speaker 1: gonna be in another situation where we're just not really
Speaker 1: drafting chiefs next year. It's just it's such a weird
Speaker 1: thing to think, but it just it doesn't I don't know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel right.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, honestly, we're gonna be looking at the
Speaker 2: scraps next year. I mean they might be getting Amari
Speaker 2: Cooper or Chris gott Or and a Deontay Johnson, you know,
Speaker 2: Mike Williams, Like this is kind of what this team
Speaker 2: has turned into. It's like they get the scraps, they
Speaker 2: utilize them at moments of the time in the game,
Speaker 2: and then you know, they go out there and win
Speaker 2: fifteen games. I don't know how they did it this season,
Speaker 2: but that's how they did it. I remember going into
Speaker 2: this offseason thinking like, Wow, this is a crowded room.
Speaker 2: You got Rashid Rice, you got Marquise Brown, Xavier Worthy,
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey, geez, like how much more people can you get?
Speaker 2: And like you didn't know how it's gonna work, but
Speaker 2: it all works out. So you might not see a
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins at Juju or any of those guys you
Speaker 2: just named off next year. You might just see a
Speaker 2: whole wave of guys that are ring chasing at this
Speaker 2: point and they're gonna make it work. As long as
Speaker 2: Andy Reids there, as long as Patrick Mahomes is there,
Speaker 2: there's gonna be some type of success. So for fantasy,
Speaker 2: you want to stay away. I mean, you don't want
Speaker 2: to go out there and drafted Patrick Mahomes after what
Speaker 2: we just saw this year, with Travis Kelcey possibly flying
Speaker 2: off to the Sunset with Taylor Swift after this season,
Speaker 2: so who knows where his chemistry is gonna really lie.
Speaker 2: And you got Rashid Rice coming off of an injury,
Speaker 2: which we still don't know his off season, you know
Speaker 2: issues and how he's going to be disciplined this following year.
Speaker 2: Either like this is this is something that we have
Speaker 2: to really think about going into this offseason, like what
Speaker 2: do we do with our chiefs pieces? Like I honestly think,
Speaker 2: like I'm back in on Isaiah Pacheco. He's going to
Speaker 2: be cheaper than he was with you know Florio saying
Speaker 2: he's a top five, So I'm back in on him.
Speaker 2: The talents there, He's a hard runner. And there's no
Speaker 2: way that I believe Kaream Hunt is going to come
Speaker 2: back next year and lead that backfield. There's no way
Speaker 2: that's happening. Like this is Isaiah Pacheco's backfield in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five.
Speaker 1: Now, Kareem Hutt was a necessity this year. It was
Speaker 1: because they you know, they were scrambling. They had to
Speaker 1: replace Pachecko. I think they looked around and they realized
Speaker 1: Carson Steele wasn't it. They knew that some I. J.
Speaker 1: P Ruyn was not equipped to handle it over the
Speaker 1: long haul, and Andy Reid went out and called the
Speaker 1: guy that he was familiar with. He knew was familiar
Speaker 1: with the offense, and they brought him back in. So
Speaker 1: no that Kareem Hutt was he was a He wasn't
Speaker 1: mister Wright. He was mister right Now. He was the
Speaker 1: guy that they needed in the situation. Well, I know,
Speaker 1: I feel like he blew up in his first game back.
Speaker 3: He played pretty well, but he is no burst at all. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but if you remember back in the summer, the reason
Speaker 3: we were all excited about this offense was like all
Speaker 3: the speed pieces they had and Markis Brown got hurt
Speaker 3: before it started. Uh, Xavier Worthy was slow out the gate,
Speaker 3: Rashie Rice Gott. We never saw them with all of
Speaker 3: those guys on the field at the same time. I look,
Speaker 3: a lot could change, but I'm of the mindset that
Speaker 3: like Marki's Brown is probably going to come back. And
Speaker 3: if we're talking about Mahomes having Rice Worthy and Marky's
Speaker 3: Brown at his disposal, we might get the Mahomes that
Speaker 3: was so good for Fantasy for so long.
Speaker 1: Talk about all the speed pieces, all the speed pieces there,
Speaker 1: and the guys that they leaned on were DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: and Andrew Smiths. Smith Schuster and Kareem Hunt and Justin
Speaker 1: Watson like, Noah Gray like. These were all the names
Speaker 1: that that Patrick Mahomes leaned on during the season. Whos
Speaker 1: man who knows? All right, take a break, we'll come back.
Speaker 1: We will preview Super Bowl fifty nine as we are
Speaker 1: to wrap this episode up here on the NFL Fantasy
Speaker 1: Football Podcast.
Speaker 3: Of course, super.
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty nine going down in New Orleans, coming up
Speaker 1: on Sunday between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Before we dive into that, though, a piece of news
Speaker 1: that came out on Wednesday. I guess it's more official
Speaker 1: because we sort of knew this was coming, but the
Speaker 1: league has announced that the Rams are going to play
Speaker 1: in Australia in twenty twenty six. Let's go. It's a
Speaker 1: designated home game for the Rams, so that means what
Speaker 1: it'll be eight home games, eight away games, and in
Speaker 1: the one home game in Australia this year. I was
Speaker 1: doing the math the other day and from Los Angeles
Speaker 1: to Melbourne is a nineteen hour time difference. Not sure
Speaker 1: when exactly the game is going to kick off, but Lakwan,
Speaker 1: would you be in the Rams fan here? Would you
Speaker 1: wake up at say like three o'clock in the morning
Speaker 1: if you had to to watch the Rams play.
Speaker 2: I wake up at two am every day most of
Speaker 2: the week for Good Morning Football, so I don't see
Speaker 2: why I would not three m. I don't know the
Speaker 2: average person who doesn't have that type of schedule would, but.
Speaker 3: I'm there, baby, forget waking up. Can we get you
Speaker 3: to go to Australia for the oh? Listen?
Speaker 1: I would love that.
Speaker 2: I would love that because I know something.
Speaker 1: Why just him? Why can't we all go?
Speaker 3: I would love to as well, But if they're not
Speaker 3: sending us, I'm not gonna drop the money. But no,
Speaker 3: that would be awesome, man.
Speaker 2: I honestly have never been out the country like that,
Speaker 2: so I know we got some fans over there in Australia.
Speaker 2: I would love to go over there and taste their food,
Speaker 2: you know, box a kangaroo or something. I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know, I'll be something to go and that's the
Speaker 2: last we see of Laclawn.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 2: I can get one yard on a fourth and one
Speaker 2: and I could probably box a kangaroo.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna win. I'm not gonna win.
Speaker 3: Have you ever watched a kangaroo video before.
Speaker 2: Uh, yes, I've seen a couple of kangaroo like the
Speaker 2: wild safari stuff.
Speaker 3: Their claws would rip you.
Speaker 1: To kangaroo will sleep you in a second.
Speaker 2: Like, what are we talking about boxing gloves on them? Man,
Speaker 2: we gotta be tradition. I just want to come right.
Speaker 3: I got those back feet though. Man, I know.
Speaker 1: This is making my head hurt. This is not where
Speaker 1: the segment was supposed to go.
Speaker 3: LaQuan you were you are that guy, Like there's always
Speaker 3: tweets that are like the average man thinks they can
Speaker 3: beat like a lion in a fight.
Speaker 2: The average man like you are. Yes, yes, put me
Speaker 2: on man versus animal. Bro, that's gonna show it at
Speaker 2: I'm down boxing gloves for safety.
Speaker 1: We're not going to harm the animals.
Speaker 3: They may harm me, but.
Speaker 1: The animal's gonna harm you. Like, yeah, that's fine, they
Speaker 1: might harm me. I'll be fine. I got inshortans. I
Speaker 1: think you know my wife does at least Bro, you
Speaker 1: have children, Like, you can't be out here boxing kangaroos.
Speaker 1: What are we doing?
Speaker 2: Fun fact, kangaroos cannot hop backward and their primary left handed.
Speaker 2: So therefore I think I have a chance if I
Speaker 2: plan and strategize his boxing match, and they're left handed.
Speaker 3: Okay, I Twitter okay saying LaQuan win. Eighty two percent
Speaker 3: of the people say no right now.
Speaker 2: The only thing I fear is that they have the
Speaker 2: same biting force as a grizzy bear, which is nine
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five psi.
Speaker 3: They look like they bench a house, Like I'm looking
Speaker 3: at you see these swoll these swollen ass kangaroos.
Speaker 2: Man, Like what listen, stay on the right, stay on
Speaker 2: the right, and go around the back and just.
Speaker 3: They can't hop backwards.
Speaker 1: Come on no, which means which the advantage, which means
Speaker 1: they just keep advancing like that's all. They just keep
Speaker 1: coming at you like keep side staff.
Speaker 3: Do you know how tall they are alone? Like they're
Speaker 3: like six feet.
Speaker 2: I'm glad I don't have this actually lined up that
Speaker 2: this is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Don't you remember all those silver Looney suit cartoons with
Speaker 1: syvested the cat was just getting his stuff punched in
Speaker 1: by a kangaroo like.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, like, no, lie, a fight against the case
Speaker 3: like that might be the worst animal you can fight
Speaker 3: because they're they're like us. They're just huge and athletic
Speaker 3: and they have claws and they are like us, but
Speaker 3: they are not like us. So yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2: I didn't think we'd have kangaroo boxing on this show.
Speaker 2: Doug Fire content only man, go only be a family man,
Speaker 2: Stop trying to fight wild animals. All right, that's enough
Speaker 2: of that. Super Bowl fifty nine. I got a few questions.
Speaker 2: Let's start with a Super Bowl sleeper, Lakwan, Who is
Speaker 2: your sleeper in this game?
Speaker 1: The guy that I think that you think is gonna
Speaker 1: pop off that maybe we're not talking a lot about
Speaker 1: no AGray.
Speaker 2: I think he's you know, he's on the contract year.
Speaker 2: I think more so of like he's the future if
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey is going to be walking away from the game.
Speaker 2: So I think, you know, he might pop up in
Speaker 2: this big game, might be the headline, you know, for
Speaker 2: next week as well, being like, oh wow, you might
Speaker 2: have the future of the Chiefs tight end. You know
Speaker 2: already you know, circled and played out. So I don't know,
Speaker 2: I think I feel like he's going to have a
Speaker 2: big game.
Speaker 1: All right. Who's your sleeper, Flora?
Speaker 3: I like Noah Gray a lot. It's not nearly as sleepery.
Speaker 3: It's hard to find a sleeper in one game. But
Speaker 3: I think Xavier Worthy is going to to do his
Speaker 3: thing this week. The Eagles are elite at stopping the
Speaker 3: deep ball. They're also the best in the league at
Speaker 3: preventing yak after the catch, which is the two ways
Speaker 3: that Xavier Worth they can win. But I think that
Speaker 3: Andy Reid is going to generate a lot of plays
Speaker 3: for him. We saw that against the Bills. We've seen
Speaker 3: that in the second half of the year. I'd argue
Speaker 3: he's their wide receiver one and he has the capability.
Speaker 3: We're talking about how slow and old the Chiefs are.
Speaker 3: He is there one guy that could break out a long,
Speaker 3: big play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm worthy that He was my pick as well
Speaker 1: as Avier Worthy, just because look early in the season,
Speaker 1: I think he was asked to do a lot because
Speaker 1: they needed him to do a lot. I mean, losing
Speaker 1: Marquise Brown early, I mean, especially when they lose for
Speaker 1: she Rice. I think they were asking him to do
Speaker 1: a lot of things and it wasn't necessarily working out right.
Speaker 1: Everybody looked at them like, oh my god, it's the
Speaker 1: fastest guy in the history of the Combine goes to
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and they had him running like go routes
Speaker 1: and it just wasn't really happening. But as the season progressed,
Speaker 1: you figured that they were finding new ways to integrate
Speaker 1: him into the offense, finding new ways to sort of
Speaker 1: make it work with him. And I think now, I mean,
Speaker 1: we know Andy Reid after a bye generally is pretty deadly.
Speaker 1: Giving him a couple of weeks to sort of work
Speaker 1: some things out. I think they're going to have some
Speaker 1: tricks up their sleeve and somehow. I think Xavier Worthy's
Speaker 1: going to be the guy, whether it's in the running game,
Speaker 1: whether it is as kind of a downfield thread or
Speaker 1: maybe a more fully formed wide receiver. I think he's
Speaker 1: the guy to keep an eye on Lakwan Which player
Speaker 1: is most critical to their team's success coming up this week.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go on the eagle side. I think
Speaker 2: Aj Brown. I think he needs to have another game
Speaker 2: where he's not the focal point, but where he's showing
Speaker 2: up in chunk yards and he's showing up in the
Speaker 2: end zone. I think it will be very crucial because
Speaker 2: they shut him down. I'm not too sure who's going
Speaker 2: to be able to step up other than Saquon on
Speaker 2: the ground, but I think Spac's got a huge game
Speaker 2: plan just around Saquon Barkley, being that this is this
Speaker 2: first time experiencing the Saquon Barkley experience. So I think
Speaker 2: aj Brown needs to step up in a huge way.
Speaker 2: He needs to get in back in that book to
Speaker 2: enter excellence and you know, get his mind rate and
Speaker 2: sho show up in the end zone.
Speaker 1: All right, Who you got, Floria?
Speaker 3: Travis Kelce, which has been the answer for a while
Speaker 3: for the Chiefs, but not so much this season. But
Speaker 3: he leads the Chiefs and yards this year and targets,
Speaker 3: catches all of that against zone coverage and when teams
Speaker 3: are not blitzing. And I think that's very important because
Speaker 3: the Eagles use zone at a very high rate. They
Speaker 3: also blitz at the fourth lowest rate in the NFL.
Speaker 3: And the other thing is they use Cover six as
Speaker 3: their defense and hires three in the NFL. The Chiefs
Speaker 3: really haven't seen that a whole bunch this year. So
Speaker 3: I think it's going to come down to the chemistry
Speaker 3: that Mahomes and Kelsey has and just his ability to
Speaker 3: find this soft spot in zones. I think that is
Speaker 3: something that could be like a third and long. Oh
Speaker 3: backbreaking catch from Travis Kelcey. Stuff like that, I think
Speaker 3: is how he's going to put his fingerprints on the game.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Jalen Hurts because I
Speaker 1: think if you are Steve Spagnolo, job number one is
Speaker 1: making sure Saquon doesn't beat you. And the Chiefs have
Speaker 1: been pretty good against the run all year long. They
Speaker 1: have the fourth fewest explosive plays allowed on the ground
Speaker 1: during the regular season. They just weren't giving up a
Speaker 1: ton of chunk plays in the running game. So I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna really see a focus on making sure
Speaker 1: Saquon doesn't have one of those big, huge Saquon games,
Speaker 1: which means I think Jalen Hurts is gonna have to
Speaker 1: step up. And look, the last time these two teams played,
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts had himself a great game. Obviously, the Eagles
Speaker 1: came up short, but I don't think you could put
Speaker 1: any of that on Hurts. So I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to kind of, you know, bottle up and refined
Speaker 1: whatever it was that worked a couple of seasons ago.
Speaker 1: Because I think they're gonna need him. And when I
Speaker 1: say he has to have a good game. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's got to go for three hundred. I don't
Speaker 1: think he needs to have like four touchdown passes or
Speaker 1: anything like that. But he's got to be efficient. He's
Speaker 1: got to be willing to take shots down the field
Speaker 1: when he has them. He's going to have to be
Speaker 1: willing to get out of the pocket and run when
Speaker 1: he has those opportunities as well. But because I think
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are going to try their hardest to take
Speaker 1: Saquan away, then that means Jalen Hurts is going to
Speaker 1: have to be the guy to step up and make
Speaker 1: plays when they need him to. I mean, look, these
Speaker 1: are two good defensive teams. The Eagles, at least statistically
Speaker 1: this year, I think were the better offensive team. If
Speaker 1: you were going to give a team the edge, we're
Speaker 1: gonna pick the winners in just a second. Look on,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, which team do you think is the
Speaker 1: more well rounded of the two teams? Here?
Speaker 2: Chiefs, you got to go to experience. Man, they've been
Speaker 2: there before. They know how to win big games, and
Speaker 2: they know how to be clutch. And we've talked about
Speaker 2: Mahomes magic. You can't stop that. Once he gets to
Speaker 2: a star Barer, So I got to give the edge
Speaker 2: to them, man with coaching with Mahomes and just overall
Speaker 2: experiences just being there.
Speaker 1: Can you get out of your feelings enough Florida to
Speaker 1: give us an objective take on this?
Speaker 3: Yes, I think once you factor in Andy Reid and
Speaker 3: Steve Spagnola, which I think is the biggest edge these
Speaker 3: teams have is the coaching department. I think they are
Speaker 3: the greatest head coach coordinator combination that I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: I think that pushes it to the chief side. But
Speaker 3: just talent wise, and like comparing the roster, I think
Speaker 3: the Eagles are the best roster in football. So if
Speaker 3: we took away all of the like the Chiefs magic
Speaker 3: and stuff and just broke it down roster wise, I
Speaker 3: think the edge goes to Philly.
Speaker 1: I think they are a deeper team. I think the
Speaker 1: Eagles are a deeper team. But coaching matters, especially in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, especially when you've had a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks to prepare, and so I think that that is
Speaker 1: where Kansas City I think has a bit of an advantage.
Speaker 1: And look, Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes is a legitimate advantage
Speaker 1: right what he does and what he's able to do,
Speaker 1: especially in clutch moments, I just can't be discounted. And
Speaker 1: I think that goes a long way too, even if
Speaker 1: the offense, like I think, I think down for pound,
Speaker 1: the Eagles offensively are a better team than Kansas City,
Speaker 1: but Patrick Mahomes sort of counts double because of what
Speaker 1: he's able to do with the football in his hands.
Speaker 3: Andy Reid as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you're if we're putting Amy Reid
Speaker 1: versus Nick Sirianni, I don't think it's a contest.
Speaker 3: And you got to add in spags to like. Andy
Speaker 3: Reid also has maybe the greatest decordinator in his bag too,
Speaker 3: Like I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, agree, although look, let's not knock Vic Fangio because
Speaker 1: also know who's outstanding with what he does as well.
Speaker 1: So all right, it's time to see who will deliver.
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Speaker 1: pick your winner and your Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP Patrick Mahomes and the chiefs man. He's
Speaker 2: going to be catching up the Brady with them super
Speaker 2: Bowl MVPs.
Speaker 1: So that's a clear cut man, all right, Uh, Lareel,
Speaker 1: you're you're a super Bowl winner in your MVP.
Speaker 3: I feel very so like if the Eagles are gonna win,
Speaker 3: they're gonna have to kick the door down and take
Speaker 3: it and not put the ball in Mahomes' hands late. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: I don't think that is the case. I think Patrick
Speaker 3: Mahomes has the ball late. And this was my preseason
Speaker 3: Super Bowl prediction was Chiefs over Eagles, so I'm sticking
Speaker 3: with that. I'm thinking it'll be close, like a field
Speaker 3: goal game or something like that. And obviously if they win,
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is winning the MVP.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we make it unanimous, which we did
Speaker 1: that for the championship games and you see how that
Speaker 1: turned out for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I think the Chiefs figure out
Speaker 1: a way to get through and win this thing. I
Speaker 1: think I have a thirty one twenty eight if I
Speaker 1: if I have it right, and I think Mahomes, I
Speaker 1: think Mahomes pulls your MVP award yet again. I will
Speaker 1: give you my hot take for the Super Bowl. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I said it on this show. I
Speaker 1: know I've told some other people, but my hot take
Speaker 1: is that the Chiefs win the Super Bowl and on
Speaker 1: the podium Travis kelce and now to his retirement and
Speaker 1: proposes to Taylor Swift and the internet melts. The Internet
Speaker 1: melts down, and she's pregnant and she announces she's final.
Speaker 2: Just blow it out in place up.
Speaker 3: And we get a whole off season of oh, this
Speaker 3: is why the Bills got cheated.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I actually agree with Margus. I think this is
Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey's last game.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I think at some point he
Speaker 1: looks around and you know, look, what else is there
Speaker 1: for him? Right? What else is there for him to accomplish?
Speaker 1: Really on the field. He's thirty five, He would be
Speaker 1: thirty six sometime of early next season, And at some point,
Speaker 1: like do you want to go through the stress and
Speaker 1: strain of another training camp? It's two days and one
Speaker 1: hundred degree heat. Meanwhile, he's watching his brother make super
Speaker 1: commercials on bear skin rugs. They're getting paid one hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars to do a podcast. He's got a billionaire girlfriend.
Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey loses money playing football, Like that is true.
Speaker 1: That's at some point you're just like, do I really
Speaker 1: still need this?
Speaker 3: I believe that he wanted the Kelsey brothers wanted to
Speaker 3: go out together. But then when they won the second one,
Speaker 3: he was like, I can't turn down the chance to
Speaker 3: win three.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't do that. I can't walk away
Speaker 1: from it right now. So yeah, that's my that is
Speaker 1: my hot take. Chiefs. With the Super Bowl, Travis Kelcey
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Speaker 1: of Sunday night, but the podcast rolls on. We're back
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Speaker 1: don't know something, I don't have the I don't have
Speaker 1: our little information sheet in front of me right now.
Speaker 3: Pros versus Joe's Lakwan versus the Kangaroo, sports signs.
Speaker 1: Or whatever it's like, and man versus animal, Lakwan v. Kangaroo.
Speaker 1: That's what we'll talk about next week. But the meantime,
Speaker 1: that'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy
Speaker 1: Football pot Castay, Happy, safe, and healthy, Do good, and
Speaker 1: live well. Enjoy Super Bowl fifty nine everybody, and we
Speaker 1: will talk to you again next week. Wow.
Speaker 2: That could probably box a kangaroo.