1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Wow, Why everybody, It's Thursday, February sixth, twenty twenty five. 2 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We just want 3 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: to kick this thing off already. It's me and your man, 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: MG Marcus Grant, joined by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Jones LQ. You are going to New Orleans looking forward to. 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the food, to be honest, soon 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: as I touchdown, I am getting the food in my body. 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: Are you a seafood person. 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: No, I'm alertic to some seafood. I think it's solsh shellfish. 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I did not know this about you. I am 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: anti seafood all the way. 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: Oh, let's go. But you also don't like turkey either, 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: So no, I like turkey. 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: I just think it's overrated. 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: You don't like turkey? 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: Turkey is Derek Jeter. 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: There you go. Kareean Falcone is very upset with you 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: right now. 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know. I Look. I love Kareem. 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: She's awesome. She does amazing work for us. She's just 21 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: a really cool person. My Derek Jeter take sort of 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: rankled her the other day. So sorry, Look, I'll just 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: on Jeter. The diving catch into the stands. He catches 24 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: it in fair territory. That's all I'm going to say. 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm still better about him making that flip and getting 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: jokes slide Jeremy Giombi slide anyway, I'm just going to 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: pretend I know what that means. We got our last 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: rounds of exit interviews coming up on today's show, Picks 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: twenty nine through thirty two. 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: Pain. 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: Hey man, we did my team like two weeks ago, 32 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: so I don't really want to hear it. We will 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: have a Super Bowl preview as well as we wrap 34 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: up the show and gets you ready for super Bowl 35 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: fifty nine coming up this weekend. I have really a 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: lot of headlines. I don't know how much interest you 37 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: guys have. The Josh Jacobs saying that he would love 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: to reunite with Davante Adams in Green Bay. We talked 39 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: about the Pack and whether or not they need a 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: number one receiver, I mean, Florio Devonte Adams in Green Bay? 41 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: Is he would that make him back to being I 42 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: don't want to say a first round pick, but what 43 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: could he be a mid second round pick in Green Bay? Possibly? 44 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: I think other people could convince themselves to draft him 45 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: there I will not be that person. I was fading 46 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: him last year as a second round pick, and it 47 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: was partly because of who his quarterbacks were, but it's 48 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 3: also because he was thirty one going on thirty two. 49 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: By the end of the next season, he'll be thirty 50 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 3: three years old, and we already saw some decline in 51 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: his metrics. So my rule of thumb is, when you 52 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: have an agent player and you start to see slow, 53 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: like little signs of decline, to just avoid it. Because 54 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: we talk about it a lot like decline comes very 55 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: very slowly and then all at once. So like, I 56 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: don't want to draft someone this early if part of 57 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: their range of outcome could be just not living up 58 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: anywhere close to expectations and bottoming out. But it would 59 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: be hilarious, Like the NFL is a reality show. The 60 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: writers are just being like, let's get Adams back to 61 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: Green Bay where he said he didn't have an elite quarterback, 62 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: and now he chooses Jordan Love over Aaron Rodgers, Like 63 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: that would that would just be hilarious? 64 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: Actually want amazing? That would be pretty good of that happened. Yeah, 65 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: I mean, look, everything is is you know, times of 66 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: Flat Circle. Everything's reboots and sequels and that sort of thing, 67 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: So you. 68 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 2: Know, why not does Green Bay even want him back? 69 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: Though? 70 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 2: You know, like that's kind of weird that he would 71 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: say that. That is a good point because he kind 72 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: of left and just was like all right, I'm out 73 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: to better things. That's kind of how it felt, and 74 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: like I wouldn't want him back either, you know, like 75 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: to be honest, like you got guys like Dadan Reed, 76 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: you got Christian Watson you're hoping comes back from recovery. 77 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: Like these young guys are developing well, and like if 78 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: I can comparison to break the parallel on soccer, like 79 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 2: when Christiano Ronaldo returned back to Manchester United, it might 80 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: have delayed or kind of messed up. You know, Marcus 81 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: Rastus's development being that he was a young player and 82 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: now look where he's at now. Is that Ashton Villa 83 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: right now? So you bring in the guy that gave 84 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: the pop and gave the excitement, then it's like you're 85 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: hurting the development of the young guys that you're actually 86 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: getting some flow with. 87 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: That's that's exactly what I was going to say. That's 88 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: that's one hundred percent and it's not I was going 89 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: to say, that's not at all what I was going 90 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: to say. Soccer turns in analysis. I enjoy the sport, 91 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: and I know, like I knew all the names involved 92 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: and everything I was not did, but I also know 93 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: you do this to to try and tweak me. Well 94 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: that's why you say that too. So long as you know, dude, 95 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: I peep your game. Contrary to the shack meme, I'm 96 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: very familiar with your games. So that's what that is. 97 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: All right, that's anyway, that's enough of that we'll see. 98 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: I mean, right now, this is just this kind of 99 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 1: idle chatter. It's Josh Jacobs sort of hining out loud 100 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: to reunite with a former teammates maybe help his current team. 101 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: I think that's about as far as that may go 102 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: when it comes to Devonte Adams reuniting with the Green 103 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: Bay Packers. All right, into our exit interviews our final 104 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: four teams. Now, I will preface this by saying picks 105 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,559 Speaker 1: thirty one and thirty two are not officially set yet. 106 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: So we did these sort of buy records in the 107 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: regular season, and that's how we came up with what 108 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: they are. So we'll start with the Washington Commanders at 109 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: pick number twenty nine. They had a phenomenal twelve and 110 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: five season, got all the way to the NFC Championship games, 111 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: certainly ahead of everyone's expectations. I would probably guess even 112 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: ahead of the expectations of people within that building there 113 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: in Washington. And when you talk about what went right, easy, easy, easy, 114 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: easy answer is Jaden Daniels over thirty five hundred passing yards, 115 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: twenty five passing touchdowns, nine interceptions, nearly nine hundred rushing yards, 116 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: six rushing touchdowns. He was the QB six. Terry McLaurin 117 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: another great season as well, over one thousand yards, thirteen 118 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns. I don't think I realized he had thirteen 119 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: touchdowns this year. He finished as receiver seven this season, 120 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: so Florio as the number one. Jade and Daniels stand 121 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: on this show. Any fears and you you tweeted about 122 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: this and I sort of responded any fears that he 123 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: pulls a CJ. Stroud in year two. 124 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember what the tweet was that I sent. 125 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 3: I tweet a lot, so. 126 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: It was it was basically something to the effective of 127 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: how like Jayden Daniels looks like, you know, a mid 128 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: career vet or something to that effect, and I responded with, 129 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: we said the same thing about C. 130 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: Stroud last year, So I one hundred percent agree the difference, 131 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 3: there's two differences. For me is one, I just think 132 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: Jade and Daniels played better even than CJ. Stroud did 133 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 3: last year, even if CJ. Stroud had these superior passing stats. 134 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: But for me, I think what happened, what really made 135 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 3: me feel good about Jaden Daniels is there was that 136 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: stretch in the middle of the year where you could 137 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: pull into a number of different things. He was dealing 138 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: with the rib injury, which I think was the number 139 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: one factor, but you started to hear rumblings of like, oh, 140 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: our defense is kind of figuring out how to make 141 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels uncomfortable and take away what he does best. 142 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: And you started to hear stuff like has he hit 143 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: the rookie wall and has he taken Cliff Kingsbury offense 144 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: as far as it could go? And then he got 145 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: healthy and looked even better and played even better and 146 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: in the playoffs, like not just what he was doing 147 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: with his legs and all the stats and everything that 148 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: he has. I think it's arguably the greatest rookie season 149 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: of all time. But the way he was able to 150 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: go through his progressions and like just read a defense 151 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: and not feel like the moment was too big. And 152 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: this is going up against top defenses in the playoffs, 153 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: like he he just looked even better and better and better. 154 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: He looked unstoppable against the Lions. So I have no concerns. 155 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: I've gone as far as saying that, not only for 156 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: fantasy do I think Jayden is a top five quarterback. 157 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: I think for real life, like clearly there's the Big four, 158 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: but after him that I'm taking jad and Daniels right 159 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: now over anyone. So no, I don't have those concerns 160 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: because the Commanders have a bunch of cat they have 161 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: their draft picks, like their supporting cast should be even 162 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: better in year two for Jaden than it was in 163 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: year one. And I know we could say that for CJ. Stroud, 164 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: but like we talked about on the last episode, I 165 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: think Stroud was more like efficiency luck. I don't think 166 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: that was the case for Jade and Daniels. 167 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean, where are you with this, Laku? I mean, 168 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: is is Jayden Daniels a top five quarterback for you 169 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: next year? In fantasy. 170 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, And I think what makes the difference between 171 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: him and CJ Stroud When I was on this same 172 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: podcast in the same room saying that CJ shrowd via 173 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: top five lock this year, clearly that was wrong. But 174 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: the difference here is that this dude almost had a 175 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 2: thousand yards rushing, So the rushing upside is going to 176 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: stay there. They're turnovers. I'm not worried about him getting 177 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: that sophomore slump because coming out of college, his tendency 178 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: is his meant like, his whole type of ordeal was 179 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: that he's accurate and doesn't turn the ball over, and 180 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: I think that's one of the things that he will 181 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: carry throughout his career. So mostly looking at, you know, 182 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: the his mechanics and everything that he brings to the table, 183 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 2: He's obviously going to be a top five quarterback. And 184 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: you know, this season with everything staying the same around him, 185 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: with many with many people speculating that they do bring 186 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: in a wide receiver too, that can possibly help Terry McLaurin, 187 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: because I think that's one of the things that you know, 188 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: that will elevate his game to an even higher ceiling. 189 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we're not We're not in on Diommy Brown necessarily. 190 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: I mean, you had a couple of good postseason games, 191 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: but I like. 192 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: The Brown twins, like the Noah Brown and Diami Brown. 193 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: Like I like them guys. But it's like if I 194 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: can go out there and get a T. Higgins, like 195 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: come on, let's let's let's go wild and balled out, 196 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: Like let's get Miles Garrett on the defense, and let's 197 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: get T Higgins. 198 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: Let's go to the super Bowl. 199 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: Like I'm a huge Jayden of Dans fan now, but 200 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: just basically just being wild every single game. You know 201 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: that he's been doing, I mean for him to get 202 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 2: to the playoffs as far as he did as a rookie. 203 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: Like it's the freaking Commanders guys like Kingsbury he usually 204 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 2: falls off at the end of the season, which you 205 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: know if I've seen that closely being in Ranstrand with 206 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: him as the Cardinals head coach. But it's just like 207 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: the former is there, Like you don't have that, you know, 208 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: animosity between the quarterback and coach anymore. Like it's like 209 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: JD's locked in, he's ready to go. He's there early 210 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: in the morning working out and looking at that film 211 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: like He's doing all the things that Kyler wasn't doing. 212 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: Not to make the comparison, but that's a big deal. 213 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: He's what we wanted Kyler Murray to be all those 214 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 3: exactly Arizona. 215 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Kyler's in a ceiling right, Like we've seen 216 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: the best of Kyler at this point. 217 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that. 218 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: I would say that, and I think Jayden Daniel still 219 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: has room to grow, which is going to be really interesting, 220 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: really curious to watch life really interesting in the NFC 221 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: East for the foreseeable future. With the Eagles, the Eagles 222 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: are still going to be good regardless of whatever happens 223 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: this weekend. The Cowboys are who knows the new commanders? 224 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: Maybe let's go. 225 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: Well, who knows well? Who knows what the Cowboys are doing? 226 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: And the Giants are wandering in the wilderness for a 227 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: little while too, So you know, this looks like a 228 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: two team division at least for the next couple of years. 229 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: Over in the NFC East, I'm I was looking at 230 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: what went wrong. It was hard to pinpoint anything that 231 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: went actually wrong. Look, the range of outcomes for Austin 232 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: Eckler included him not being particularly great. He was at 233 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: best this year. 234 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: We could say that went wrong. 235 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. 236 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: I mean I was big on Austin Eckler, but I 237 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: also knew that there was a distinct possibility that it 238 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't hit right, Like I was aware of that. 239 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 2: Brian fifty Robinson had something to say about that. 240 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, because you, I know, 241 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: are a big Brian Robinson gue, I mean, did he 242 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: live up to your expectations this year? How do you 243 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: look at him for twenty twenty five? 244 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: No, man, I gotta be honest, and like, you do 245 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: love that his usage in the red zones there, like 246 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: you love the touchdowns that he was able to get there. 247 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: But his you know, his usage in the passing game 248 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 2: just dropped because of Austin Eckler. And it wasn't like 249 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: Austin Eckler was completely better in that department. It's just 250 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: that he just wasn't running the routes, getting the targets, 251 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 2: getting the reception. So it's like that capped his fantasy potential. 252 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: So it's like with them two eating off each other's plates. 253 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: It's like one of those things where he just tossed 254 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 2: up like, eh, I guess you know, because you had 255 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 2: the outside of dicking that he was going to be 256 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: an RB two, and then most weeks you were looking 257 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: at like this guy has the shoulder injury, ankle injury, god, 258 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: hamstring ankle, Like, dude, put him in a body bag, 259 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 2: Like what is going on? 260 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: Like Brian Robinson eleven point four fantasy points per game, 261 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: Austin Eckler eleven points per game, so like it's less 262 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: than half a point apart. And the annoying thing was 263 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: it was like Lakwan said on the ground, all right, 264 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 3: that work is going to Brian Robinson. In the air, 265 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: that work is going to Austin Eckler. And I think 266 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 3: that is one area where they can improve, is like 267 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: being a little less predictable with your backfield usage. 268 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm curting confuse. So Eckler's contract actually runs 269 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: through the end of next season. They could get out 270 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: of it for I think a fairly minimal dead cap hit. 271 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: You know, So do they do they bring him back, 272 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: they run it back with the same backfield, do they 273 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: try and do something else? I think that's going to 274 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: be something to kind of watch with this team in 275 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: the offseason. I think when they look at the draft. 276 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: You mentioned Lakwana getting some help for Terry McLaurin. I 277 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: think another wide receiver is going to be really important 278 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: for them. So we'll see if they decide to make 279 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: that move as well, or if they do it in 280 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: free agency. You mentioned t Higgins. I mean maybe they 281 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: go out and chase somebody like that, or if they 282 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: do it in the draft. But either way they need 283 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: something more consistent as their wide receiver too. Then you know, 284 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: to go along, I should say with with Terry McLaurin 285 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: there in Washington, you pick number thirty goes to the 286 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills thirteen and for this season, another trip to 287 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship Game. Another heavy side there for Michael 288 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: f Florio when he thinks about it. 289 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: Please don't trade to pick Man, don't don't do that. 290 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: Don't don't help the chief shout again. 291 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 3: To trade it. Don't trade it to the team in Cleveland. 292 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: Man again, I see which I see where you're going 293 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: with this. 294 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: Crea talent, that's what this team needs. 295 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: I see where you're going with this. What went right? Certainly, 296 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, he had again he's very much in the 297 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: conversation for the MVP award. Over thirty seven hundred passing 298 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: yards over five hundred rushing yards. He had twenty eight 299 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: passing touchdowns. He had twelve rushing touchdowns. He also had 300 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: a receiving touchdown. This year, I finished as the QB 301 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: two James Cook over one thousand rushing yards, sixteen rushing touchdowns. 302 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: That was another number that jumped out at me. I 303 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: don't think I realized he had that many touchdowns this year, 304 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: a couple of receiving touchdowns. He was the RB eight 305 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: and the Khalil Shakir very much a pleasant surprise this season. 306 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: I know when you look at you say, well he 307 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: was wide receiver thirty seven, Well yeah, but nobody expected 308 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: anything out of Khalil Shakir and seventy six catches, eight 309 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty one yards, four touchdowns. The fact that 310 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: he was a viable flex option for a lot of 311 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: rosters pretty consistently during the year. Again, we all thought 312 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: maybe this was going to be, you know, it's gonna 313 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: be Dalton kin Kid's year. Who are they gonna use 314 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: it wide receiver now without Stefan Thigs. I mean, there 315 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: were so many questions. I don't know that anybody thought 316 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: Khalil Shakiir was going to be the answer. 317 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: Hello, I really love Shakir in the off season. 318 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, what were we talking about? 319 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: You got two of the biggest Shakir fans right here? 320 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: All right, So Shakiir right, not Shakira, right, We're talking 321 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: about Khaleil Sir. 322 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: Right. 323 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: That's that hips don't lie man, or that's what we're 324 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: talking about. All right, So I sit corrected. I maybe 325 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: I just didn't. I thought he'd be a nice piece. 326 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: I didn't think he would be as good as he was, 327 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: but I thought he would be He would easily out 328 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: live his adp all right. 329 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: I do want to ask you though, because obviously you 330 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: watched the Bills closer than anybody here. James Cook had 331 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: a very very good season. Is this the ceiling or 332 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: is there more we can expect from James Cook? 333 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: I think, touchdown wise, this is the ceiling, and this 334 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: might be a career year. He scored sixteen rushing like 335 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: you said, he tied the franchise record, I believe for 336 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns like I'm not banking on that again, but yes, 337 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: I certainly think there's more room for growth for James Cook. 338 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: Because he had to play in Week eighteen when all 339 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: of the starters were out for him to get a 340 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: thousand rushing yards, but then you see the long burst 341 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 3: runs that he has and stuff, so I certainly think 342 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: there's more big plays there. Ty Johnson is what they 343 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: do with him is a big indicator for James Cook 344 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: because two years ago Cook got a lot of passing 345 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: down opportunities, but he had a lot of drops. And 346 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: then this year they were just like, we're going all 347 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: Ty Johnson in two minute drills, third downs like obvious 348 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: passing situations. And Josh Allen on record multiple times has 349 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: been like Ty Johnson is the best third down back 350 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 3: in the NFL. So they really love him and that's 351 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: why he took so much opportunity away. But he's a 352 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: free agent, and if they let him walk and they 353 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: say Cook took the next stride and earns more work, 354 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: especially because I believe they are going to extend James 355 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: Cook this off season. If that's the case and he 356 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: starts getting more targets, then yeah, then he could reach 357 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: top five, like elite level Fantasy. 358 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: I believe, Wow, were you comfortable taking him next year? 359 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: A Lukwan? 360 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: James Cook? 361 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: He's one of those guys I would love to have 362 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: in my RB two. I don't think I would be 363 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: drafting him as my RB one, but like Florio said, 364 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: if the touchdown department, if he could find the middle 365 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: between ten and sixteen, I'm good with him as my 366 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: RB two. I was off of him this season because 367 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: I wasn't too sure what to expect from him, because honestly, 368 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 2: I haven't been watching James Cook as much as I've 369 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: been watching the other guys that are behind him. Like 370 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: I already know about Ty Johnson being the thorn in 371 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: somebody's back because he did it when he was with 372 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: the Jets with Michael Carter, Like that's just kind of 373 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: his role. So that might have been you know, my 374 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 2: PTSD kicking in of like, oh no, Ty Johnson's in 375 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: the building, bro, Like what's going on? Like he had 376 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: a freaking receiving touchdown, which was amazing, by the way, 377 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 2: in the back of that end zone from Josh Allen. 378 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 2: I don't know I always saw him, but that's what 379 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: he brings to the table, the unpredictableness in the receiving game. 380 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: So that was just, you know, my price. 381 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: But going into next season, I would love to get 382 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: him as my RB too, you know, if I could 383 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 2: lock that up. 384 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: I think he might go as in the first round. 385 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: Really, wow, this is a no first round running back podcast. 386 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 2: Will I don't know if you understood I. 387 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: I would not take him. 388 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no, no, no, no no, don't put this 389 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: on the whole pot like that's a you thing. 390 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 2: We're in the first Are we taking Skon in the first? 391 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not taking Sequon in. 392 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: The first that's one. Also Bijon, he looks Jon. I'll 393 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 2: say I'll take Bijon in the first. No, Ben Jonson's 394 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: show Jamier give sits at that one ten through to 395 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 2: one to twelve spot, which I'm okay with but still 396 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: not comfortable with. 397 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: But there's that. I mean, I could make a case 398 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: late first for maybe Devon ah chan O. 399 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep forgetting about him for some reason. 400 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: Make a late first round case maybe for Kyron Williams. 401 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, your boy Kyra at the 402 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: end of the first. 403 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: No, I have my own personal beasts about Kiren. But no, 404 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: I couldn't do that. I don't see that production continuing. 405 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: You wouldn't take Bjon or Gibbs. 406 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: Gibbs at the one ten, two to one twelve. I 407 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: don't feel comfortable with. I like their wide receivers that 408 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: are going there, Like I like a Drake London right there. 409 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: I like a Brian Thomas over there. Like I like 410 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: those guys more than I like Gids without Ben Jonson. 411 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: It's about the usage, like whoever comes in, are they 412 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: gonna use? Are they gonna use? You know, the sonic 413 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: and knuckles like who knows? Like that looks like a 414 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 2: question mark to me. 415 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 3: You know, I don't plan on taking James Cook in 416 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: the first round, but like when we did our mock 417 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: at the end of the year Marcus on Fantasy Live, 418 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 3: like Patrick took him in the first round, and I've 419 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 3: seen other people since then, especially after the playoffs, and 420 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 3: he played so well, start to be like, hey, maybe 421 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 3: this Cook guy is worthy of it. Again, I like 422 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: it much more as like a second rounder. 423 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I'm think I make the leaping of 424 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: the first round. But there are there are running backs 425 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: I would take in the first round, not as many 426 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: as in years past, but I can definitely pull the 427 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: trigger on a couple real quick. What went wrong, Dalton can? 428 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: Are you still ready to fire him out of a 429 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: circus cannon to the moon? Floria? 430 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, he catches that ball right now, is 431 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 3: the best week of my life? Like, instead, like, I 432 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: don't know if you guys feel this way. I think 433 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 3: the worst case Like, obviously there's worst case scenarios, but 434 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: as a fan, the most painful scenario is your team 435 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: losing in the championship game, because then there's a two 436 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: week build up, especially if it's like if you're the 437 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 3: Commanders and you just got dog walked, you're like, all right, yeah, 438 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 3: this was a good year for us. We're young, we 439 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 3: didn't deserve to be here. You lose, like the Bills lose, 440 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: and yeah, you get two weeks of just being like this, 441 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 3: this could have been us, like, but it's not. So Yeah, 442 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: I'm still upset with Dalton Kincaid. I still do think 443 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: there's potential here and he's gonna be cheaper than ever. 444 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: What I thought was very interesting was both the GM 445 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 3: and the head coach called him out after the year 446 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: and was like, he needs to put on more weight 447 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 3: so that he and more muscle so he is more 448 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: available to us. And you have found out after the 449 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: year that he was playing through a number of injuries. 450 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 3: They said the same thing about key On Coleman like 451 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: he wasn't the same after he got hurt. He was 452 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 3: a very different player. Amari Cooper kind of never really, 453 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: So I don't know. As good as things went for 454 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 3: the Bills this year, there was a number of players 455 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 3: that you came away feeling like they should have been 456 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 3: a lot better than they were in this offense. 457 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: I will push back and tell you that as somebody 458 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: who's a fan of a team who has lost three 459 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: times in the Super Bowl since I've worked at NFL network, 460 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: that's a pretty miserable That's a pretty miserable experience because 461 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: working at the network, you have to come to work 462 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: and they are showing the game on every television in 463 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: the building for a whole week, and they are showing 464 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: the parade of the team that Like, it's just a 465 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: pretty miserable experience to work in NFL media when your 466 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: team loses the Super Bowl, because you can't you can't 467 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: duck it, you can't dodge it. 468 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, at least after the Super Bowl you could kind 469 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 3: of be like, all right, see. 470 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 4: Over now, everybody right down to your point, though, Marcus, 471 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 4: after the thirteen second game, when I walked in the 472 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 4: next day and that was on every single TV I 473 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: just was like, please just end it now, like I 474 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: don't want to relive this. 475 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: Just want to burn Just want to burn the plays down, 476 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: that's all. I just want to burn it down. Right. 477 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: We will all my man's name from the office. 478 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: Face Milton, Milton, Oh yeah, bring them. I mean to 479 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: burn it down to bring the please them, bring it down. 480 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: We still got two more teams in our interviews. They 481 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: are the two teams that are playing in the Super Bowl. 482 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: We will also have a Super Bowl preview for you 483 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: that's coming up next here on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. 484 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: Final two teams. As I mentioned at the top of 485 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: the show, the draft order not officially set. It will 486 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: be after Sunday and we know who the champion is 487 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: that person or that team, I should say, well, I 488 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: have picked number thirty two and the Super Bowl loser 489 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: will have pick number thirty one. But for now, just 490 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: going based off of regular season records, we are putting 491 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles at pick number thirty one. They were 492 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: fourteen and three. Saquon Berkley is what went right for 493 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: the Eagles and very much what went wrong for the 494 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: Giants two thousand and five rushing yards, thirteen rushing touchdowns, 495 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy eight receiving yards to receiving touchdowns. 496 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: He was the RB two. Now, mind you, this is 497 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: going through Week eighteen. When you know Saquon or rather 498 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: Jamier Gibbs needed very much to play for the Lions. 499 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: I guess tek he didn't really have to. I guess 500 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: he did. Either way, he finishes the RB one. Saquon 501 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: What I noticed. I went back and looked two hundred 502 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: and seventy eight receiving yards for a full season. That's 503 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: the lowest number of his career, and nobody noticed because 504 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: of what he was doing on the ground. I mean 505 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: the fact that he ran for two thousand yards and 506 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: had a legitimate shot to break Eric Dickerson's single season 507 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: record had the Eagles held him back from that was 508 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: easy to gloss over the fact that he just didn't 509 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: do nearly the same amount of damage in the passing 510 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: game this year, but still was absolutely phenomenal. Jalen Hurts 511 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: the QB eight twenty nine hundred passing yards, six hundred 512 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: and thirty rushing yards, fourteen rushing touchdowns. AJ Brown Devens 513 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: to Smith both good, not necessarily spectacular. Brown the wide 514 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: receiver sixteen, Smith the wide receiver twenty four. But I 515 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: want to ask about Jalen Hurts Lakwan because the passing 516 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: yards down significantly this year. Didn't get to three thousand 517 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: yards just the eighteen passing touchdowns, but the fourteen rushing touchdowns. 518 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: How much longer can we rely on the tush push 519 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: because that that's doing a lot of keeping him afloat 520 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: fantasy wise. At some point it goes away, I mean, 521 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 1: but it's also it feels hard to bet on it 522 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: going away, if that makes sense. 523 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, the league's not going to band it. I mean, 524 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep on open on the opportunity to get 525 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. I mean, I'm not drafting him for the passing. 526 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: I'm drafting him for the Toush push. Like we can't 527 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: even call it rushing touchdowns. It's Toush push touchdowns. Like 528 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 2: it's not even like him going off and like running 529 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: around like Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. Like I'm going 530 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 2: for the scoring opportunities. I'm going for him setting this 531 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: team up for success to find the end zone and 532 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: get the Toush push going. They're gonna They're gonna deploy 533 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 2: that move every single time. It's like the special move 534 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: on the one button on the video game that you 535 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: cannot stop and you're just annoying your cousin. Like that's 536 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: one of those things where it's like you want to 537 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: rage quick. But I'm gonna take advantage of that in 538 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: every single draft if I can do that. You know, 539 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: this was my first year that I actually didn't draft 540 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 2: jayla Hertz. I don't know why. I thought Saquon Barkley 541 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: would play into, you know, taking away the toushbush. But 542 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 2: here we are, the toushbush is still alive and low, 543 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: and we'll probably see it done a couple times in 544 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: the big games. So it's like, if the league ain't 545 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: gonna a band it, I'm not gonna go against it. 546 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't. I don't see any moves 547 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: to stop this thing from being a legal play. It 548 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: just is what it is. 549 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: It could be stopped though, you know, like we've seen 550 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: teams stop it before. It's just you can't consistently. 551 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 3: The Chief stopped at numerous times against Josh Allen. 552 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: Well, that's the snowplow bro It's a different formula. 553 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: Other versions of it have been consistently stopped. But like, 554 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: I feel like when the Eagles get stopped, it's because 555 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: the Eagles messed it up, right, Like it's because they 556 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: did something wrong. 557 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 3: Isn't that just because Jalen Hurts is unstoppable on that play? 558 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: He can squat six hundred pounds, as yeah told repeatedly. 559 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 3: We heard in this offseason like oh well with Jason 560 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 3: Kelcey gone, this play isn't going to be effective, and 561 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 3: then halfway through the year it's like Saquon's not going 562 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: to win MVP because Jalen Hurts getting over. 563 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, look, as I feel like Jay, Jalen 564 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: Hurts is sort of the He's the keystone to this 565 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: whole thing, right, Like he's the one that makes this 566 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: whole thing go. 567 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 3: This is a completely different conversation, but like it drives 568 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 3: me crazy when people just like discount display and say, 569 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 3: like he all he is is a touch point, Like 570 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 3: that is a play that is is unstoppable right now 571 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: in the toughest yard to gain on the field, So like, 572 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 3: why is that a negative? Like to me, that's a 573 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 3: huge positive. 574 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: And again, as long as it's a legal play, if 575 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm the Eagles, I keep running it keep run into 576 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: the wheels, fall off. Does I figure out how to 577 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: stop it? Or you can't run it anymore? I'm you know, 578 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: it would be dumb to take it out of your 579 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: playbook just because other teams are mad about it. Like 580 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: that just doesn't make any sense. 581 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: Like other teams are copying it, Like we even got 582 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: the Ravens doing and we're Mark Andrews, which there's no 583 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 2: real name for it, but they were stopping multiple times, 584 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 2: like a team cannot copy what they do, and it's 585 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 2: a copycat league. So we're gonna probably see more teams 586 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: next season try to do it too. 587 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Ravens we call it like the Poe push 588 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: or something like the you know oh. 589 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 3: Doing it went over my head. 590 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: Everybody's having a QT name for it. Can't just be 591 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: a quarterback sneak anymore. Now they all have to have 592 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: QT names. So whatever, Florie, I want to talk to 593 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: you about the receivers there right because Aj Brown, DeVonta Smith, 594 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: they were good, not great. Both finished outside the top 595 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: fifteen as fantasy receivers this year. Is Saquan being there? 596 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: Does that mean we have to sort of downgrade them 597 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: right now? 598 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 3: Maybe a little? I think more than even that, Like 599 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 3: there was just something off with Hurts as a passer 600 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: this year, and I was super in on aj Brown 601 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 3: this year. I thought like Kellen Moore coming over. I 602 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 3: was pushing him over Justin Jefferson in drafts. And he 603 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: gets hurt after Week one, misses the three games. But 604 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 3: you look at his first like seven games that he played, 605 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,239 Speaker 3: and I was feeling like a genius. I was like, 606 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: this guy is way better than Justin Jefferson on a 607 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: per game basis, Like he might be the wide receiver 608 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 3: one on a per game basis. He was that good. 609 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 3: And then the results just kind of came crashing down 610 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 3: and we're very up or down, and you had Nick 611 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: Sirianni at one point being like, we need to be 612 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 3: better as a passer, so as a passing attack. So 613 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's all on Saquon. I think 614 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 3: a big part of it is when you have a 615 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: rushing attack that effective and with that many big plays, 616 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: you take away a lot of plays, Like if you're 617 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 3: scoring a one chunk play, that's six seven plays that 618 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 3: you could be losing on a drive something like that. 619 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 3: So that does hurt. But more than anything, I think 620 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: it was just something was off there. And if you're 621 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 3: gonna give me a discount on AJ Brown next year, 622 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 3: which looking at early rankings, it seems like we're gonna 623 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: get that because he's the wide receiver nine right now 624 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 3: in early rankings. Yeah, I'll just continue to draft him 625 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: because I believe he is an amazing talent. DeVonta Smith 626 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 3: is the one that I'm a little bit more weary 627 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 3: of because not only does he have all those same 628 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 3: concerns with the passing game and with Saquon, but he 629 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 3: also has a target hog and AJ Brown on the 630 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: opposite side. 631 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's sort of the hard part, 632 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: right is that with with DeVonta Smith. I mean he 633 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: did miss some time. Both guys actually missed some games 634 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: with injury, but also the volatility week to week was 635 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: a lot more noticeable with DeVonta Smith. So that's going 636 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: to be something to kind of keep in mind. And really, 637 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, like what Jalen Hurts is as a 638 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: passer is going to have a lot of impact on 639 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: what his past catchers do. And you know, look, as 640 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: long as Saquan is there and continues to be as effective, again, 641 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be two thousand yards 642 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: worth of great next year. That's just me. But he's 643 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: going to be good enough that he's going to get 644 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: a lot of those opportunities. And you know, that's just 645 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: fewer chances for Brown and Smith to get targets coming 646 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: up next season. All Right, finally against City Chiefs. If 647 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: you were not a Chiefs fan, maybe the most fit 648 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: frustrating fifteen and two you ever saw. This was it's weird. 649 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: So we you know, I did thirty one other teams, 650 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: Well I didn't do all of these. Shout out to 651 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: to Kyrie Douglas, who helped put together a lot of 652 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: these for us, but that man, But I was like 653 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: putting these together and looking at these, the Chiefs were 654 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: the one that was the most frustrating to put together 655 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: because I was like, what went right? And I was 656 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: kind of like, I mean, for fantasy, like not really much. 657 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Travis Kelce had a good season, but it 658 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: wasn't your vintage Travis Kelce season. Ninety seven catches, eight 659 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three yards, just three receiving touchdowns. He 660 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: was the tied end five and then like what went 661 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: wrong was just like Patrick Mahomes wasn't great, you know, 662 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: like he was. He went a long time without you know, 663 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: hitting a two hundred you know, a two hundred yard 664 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: passing game or throwing a bunch of touchdowns. That was 665 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: a big talk for much of the year, like hey man, 666 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: like Patrick Mahomes is just a guy in fantasy. Xavier 667 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: Worthy I really didn't pop the way people thought that 668 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: he would bring sort of showed up. It was a 669 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: nice piece, but it wasn't really great. Remember that day 670 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: that everybody was on the Carson Steel bandwagon like that 671 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: was a good That was a good thirty six hours. 672 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: That was fun. 673 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 3: I wrongly went on some much Ryan side of history, I. 674 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: Mean, but that was sort of the point, right, Like 675 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: Florid are are the twenty twenty four Chiefs the greatest 676 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: bad Fantasy team ever? 677 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: Probably, I mean probably even what went right. Travis Kelce 678 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: was a disappointment because he was drafted higher than tight 679 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 3: end five and you look at his game logs like 680 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: very much. So like all right, he had four big 681 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: games and the rest of the year like he was, 682 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 3: he was disappointing. Mahomes was. I think in late in 683 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: the year he got a little bit better, but I 684 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: think you could make a case that Mahomes was when 685 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: you factor in like draft calls and stuff, maybe the 686 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 3: biggest letdown in fantasy this year. Isaiah Pacheco. I loved, 687 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 3: I had him as a top five running back, but 688 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: that injury he suffered early in the year, like has 689 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: zapped him of everything. We have not seen him with 690 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: the saint bursts or explosiveness or anything. Kreemont was solid. 691 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 3: The one big positive from this team in my opinion, 692 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 3: is Rashid Rice. And I know he got hurt and 693 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 3: his season ended prematurely, but like you're gonna allow me 694 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 3: to draft him as a wide receiver to next year, 695 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do that all day long because I think 696 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 3: in what he's shown us, Like I remember tweeting in 697 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 3: like before he got hurt, like Malik Neighbors and Rashi 698 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 3: Rice are like top five wide receivers the rest of 699 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 3: the year, and then they both got hurt like shortly 700 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: after that tweet. But yeah, I firmly believe in everything 701 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 3: I saw at Rashi Rice. 702 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: I also I was I was wrong. I granted it 703 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: was a small sample for this year, but I was 704 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: staying away from Rashi Rice just because I didn't know 705 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: if they'd be able to manufacture the same level of 706 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: touches and the same kind of production that they did 707 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: in his rookie year, and again in a small sample size, 708 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: the answer was unequivocally yes, yes they can. So you know, 709 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: I guess I get a do over sort of on 710 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: on Rashi Rice now. So I'm looking forward to that, absolutely, 711 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: looking forward to it coming up this season. I'm looking 712 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: at the free agents, Lakwan, I mean DeAndre Hopkins, Markuise Brown, 713 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: Justin Watson, some JP Ron, Juju Smith, Schuster, Kareem Hunt, 714 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 1: Mikole Hardman. Is this team pointing to look vastly different 715 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: next year? And what are we? I mean, are we 716 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: gonna be in another situation where we're just not really 717 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 1: drafting chiefs next year. It's just it's such a weird 718 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: thing to think, but it just it doesn't I don't know, 719 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel right. 720 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 2: No, I mean, honestly, we're gonna be looking at the 721 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 2: scraps next year. I mean they might be getting Amari 722 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 2: Cooper or Chris gott Or and a Deontay Johnson, you know, 723 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: Mike Williams, Like this is kind of what this team 724 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: has turned into. It's like they get the scraps, they 725 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: utilize them at moments of the time in the game, 726 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 2: and then you know, they go out there and win 727 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: fifteen games. I don't know how they did it this season, 728 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 2: but that's how they did it. I remember going into 729 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 2: this offseason thinking like, Wow, this is a crowded room. 730 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 2: You got Rashid Rice, you got Marquise Brown, Xavier Worthy, 731 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey, geez, like how much more people can you get? 732 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 2: And like you didn't know how it's gonna work, but 733 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 2: it all works out. So you might not see a 734 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins at Juju or any of those guys you 735 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: just named off next year. You might just see a 736 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: whole wave of guys that are ring chasing at this 737 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 2: point and they're gonna make it work. As long as 738 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 2: Andy Reids there, as long as Patrick Mahomes is there, 739 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: there's gonna be some type of success. So for fantasy, 740 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 2: you want to stay away. I mean, you don't want 741 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 2: to go out there and drafted Patrick Mahomes after what 742 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: we just saw this year, with Travis Kelcey possibly flying 743 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 2: off to the Sunset with Taylor Swift after this season, 744 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 2: so who knows where his chemistry is gonna really lie. 745 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: And you got Rashid Rice coming off of an injury, 746 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 2: which we still don't know his off season, you know 747 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: issues and how he's going to be disciplined this following year. 748 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 2: Either like this is this is something that we have 749 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 2: to really think about going into this offseason, like what 750 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 2: do we do with our chiefs pieces? Like I honestly think, 751 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: like I'm back in on Isaiah Pacheco. He's going to 752 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: be cheaper than he was with you know Florio saying 753 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 2: he's a top five, So I'm back in on him. 754 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 2: The talents there, He's a hard runner. And there's no 755 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 2: way that I believe Kaream Hunt is going to come 756 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 2: back next year and lead that backfield. There's no way 757 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: that's happening. Like this is Isaiah Pacheco's backfield in twenty 758 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: twenty five. 759 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: Now, Kareem Hutt was a necessity this year. It was 760 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: because they you know, they were scrambling. They had to 761 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: replace Pachecko. I think they looked around and they realized 762 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: Carson Steele wasn't it. They knew that some I. J. 763 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: P Ruyn was not equipped to handle it over the 764 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: long haul, and Andy Reid went out and called the 765 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: guy that he was familiar with. He knew was familiar 766 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: with the offense, and they brought him back in. So 767 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 1: no that Kareem Hutt was he was a He wasn't 768 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: mister Wright. He was mister right Now. He was the 769 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: guy that they needed in the situation. Well, I know, 770 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,479 Speaker 1: I feel like he blew up in his first game back. 771 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 3: He played pretty well, but he is no burst at all. Yeah, 772 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 3: but if you remember back in the summer, the reason 773 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 3: we were all excited about this offense was like all 774 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 3: the speed pieces they had and Markis Brown got hurt 775 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 3: before it started. Uh, Xavier Worthy was slow out the gate, 776 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 3: Rashie Rice Gott. We never saw them with all of 777 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 3: those guys on the field at the same time. I look, 778 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 3: a lot could change, but I'm of the mindset that 779 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 3: like Marki's Brown is probably going to come back. And 780 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 3: if we're talking about Mahomes having Rice Worthy and Marky's 781 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 3: Brown at his disposal, we might get the Mahomes that 782 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 3: was so good for Fantasy for so long. 783 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: Talk about all the speed pieces, all the speed pieces there, 784 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: and the guys that they leaned on were DeAndre Hopkins 785 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: and Andrew Smiths. Smith Schuster and Kareem Hunt and Justin 786 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: Watson like, Noah Gray like. These were all the names 787 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: that that Patrick Mahomes leaned on during the season. Whos 788 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: man who knows? All right, take a break, we'll come back. 789 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 1: We will preview Super Bowl fifty nine as we are 790 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: to wrap this episode up here on the NFL Fantasy 791 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: Football Podcast. 792 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 3: Of course, super. 793 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty nine going down in New Orleans, coming up 794 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: on Sunday between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs. 795 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: Before we dive into that, though, a piece of news 796 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: that came out on Wednesday. I guess it's more official 797 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: because we sort of knew this was coming, but the 798 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 1: league has announced that the Rams are going to play 799 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: in Australia in twenty twenty six. Let's go. It's a 800 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: designated home game for the Rams, so that means what 801 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: it'll be eight home games, eight away games, and in 802 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: the one home game in Australia this year. I was 803 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: doing the math the other day and from Los Angeles 804 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: to Melbourne is a nineteen hour time difference. Not sure 805 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: when exactly the game is going to kick off, but Lakwan, 806 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: would you be in the Rams fan here? Would you 807 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: wake up at say like three o'clock in the morning 808 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: if you had to to watch the Rams play. 809 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 2: I wake up at two am every day most of 810 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 2: the week for Good Morning Football, so I don't see 811 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 2: why I would not three m. I don't know the 812 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 2: average person who doesn't have that type of schedule would, but. 813 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 3: I'm there, baby, forget waking up. Can we get you 814 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 3: to go to Australia for the oh? Listen? 815 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: I would love that. 816 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 2: I would love that because I know something. 817 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: Why just him? Why can't we all go? 818 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 3: I would love to as well, But if they're not 819 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 3: sending us, I'm not gonna drop the money. But no, 820 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 3: that would be awesome, man. 821 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 2: I honestly have never been out the country like that, 822 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: so I know we got some fans over there in Australia. 823 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 2: I would love to go over there and taste their food, 824 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: you know, box a kangaroo or something. I don't know. 825 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 2: You know, I'll be something to go and that's the 826 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 2: last we see of Laclawn. 827 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 3: Listen. 828 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 2: I can get one yard on a fourth and one 829 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 2: and I could probably box a kangaroo. 830 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna win. I'm not gonna win. 831 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 3: Have you ever watched a kangaroo video before. 832 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 2: Uh, yes, I've seen a couple of kangaroo like the 833 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 2: wild safari stuff. 834 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 3: Their claws would rip you. 835 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 1: To kangaroo will sleep you in a second. 836 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 2: Like, what are we talking about boxing gloves on them? Man, 837 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 2: we gotta be tradition. I just want to come right. 838 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 3: I got those back feet though. Man, I know. 839 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: This is making my head hurt. This is not where 840 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: the segment was supposed to go. 841 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 3: LaQuan you were you are that guy, Like there's always 842 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 3: tweets that are like the average man thinks they can 843 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 3: beat like a lion in a fight. 844 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 2: The average man like you are. Yes, yes, put me 845 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 2: on man versus animal. Bro, that's gonna show it at 846 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 2: I'm down boxing gloves for safety. 847 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: We're not going to harm the animals. 848 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 3: They may harm me, but. 849 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: The animal's gonna harm you. Like, yeah, that's fine, they 850 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: might harm me. I'll be fine. I got inshortans. I 851 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: think you know my wife does at least Bro, you 852 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 1: have children, Like, you can't be out here boxing kangaroos. 853 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: What are we doing? 854 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: Fun fact, kangaroos cannot hop backward and their primary left handed. 855 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: So therefore I think I have a chance if I 856 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 2: plan and strategize his boxing match, and they're left handed. 857 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 3: Okay, I Twitter okay saying LaQuan win. Eighty two percent 858 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 3: of the people say no right now. 859 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 2: The only thing I fear is that they have the 860 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 2: same biting force as a grizzy bear, which is nine 861 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five psi. 862 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,919 Speaker 3: They look like they bench a house, Like I'm looking 863 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 3: at you see these swoll these swollen ass kangaroos. 864 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 2: Man, Like what listen, stay on the right, stay on 865 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 2: the right, and go around the back and just. 866 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 3: They can't hop backwards. 867 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: Come on no, which means which the advantage, which means 868 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 1: they just keep advancing like that's all. They just keep 869 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 1: coming at you like keep side staff. 870 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 3: Do you know how tall they are alone? Like they're 871 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 3: like six feet. 872 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 2: I'm glad I don't have this actually lined up that 873 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 2: this is gonna happen. 874 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: Don't you remember all those silver Looney suit cartoons with 875 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: syvested the cat was just getting his stuff punched in 876 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: by a kangaroo like. 877 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 3: Like yeah, like, no, lie, a fight against the case 878 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 3: like that might be the worst animal you can fight 879 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 3: because they're they're like us. They're just huge and athletic 880 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 3: and they have claws and they are like us, but 881 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 3: they are not like us. So yeah, I love that. 882 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 2: I didn't think we'd have kangaroo boxing on this show. 883 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 2: Doug Fire content only man, go only be a family man, 884 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 2: Stop trying to fight wild animals. All right, that's enough 885 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 2: of that. Super Bowl fifty nine. I got a few questions. 886 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 2: Let's start with a Super Bowl sleeper, Lakwan, Who is 887 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 2: your sleeper in this game? 888 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: The guy that I think that you think is gonna 889 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: pop off that maybe we're not talking a lot about 890 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 1: no AGray. 891 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 2: I think he's you know, he's on the contract year. 892 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,399 Speaker 2: I think more so of like he's the future if 893 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,439 Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey is going to be walking away from the game. 894 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 2: So I think, you know, he might pop up in 895 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 2: this big game, might be the headline, you know, for 896 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 2: next week as well, being like, oh wow, you might 897 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 2: have the future of the Chiefs tight end. You know 898 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 2: already you know, circled and played out. So I don't know, 899 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 2: I think I feel like he's going to have a 900 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 2: big game. 901 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: All right. Who's your sleeper, Flora? 902 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 3: I like Noah Gray a lot. It's not nearly as sleepery. 903 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 3: It's hard to find a sleeper in one game. But 904 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 3: I think Xavier Worthy is going to to do his 905 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 3: thing this week. The Eagles are elite at stopping the 906 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 3: deep ball. They're also the best in the league at 907 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 3: preventing yak after the catch, which is the two ways 908 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 3: that Xavier Worth they can win. But I think that 909 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 3: Andy Reid is going to generate a lot of plays 910 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 3: for him. We saw that against the Bills. We've seen 911 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 3: that in the second half of the year. I'd argue 912 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 3: he's their wide receiver one and he has the capability. 913 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 3: We're talking about how slow and old the Chiefs are. 914 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 3: He is there one guy that could break out a long, 915 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 3: big play. 916 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm worthy that He was my pick as well 917 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: as Avier Worthy, just because look early in the season, 918 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: I think he was asked to do a lot because 919 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: they needed him to do a lot. I mean, losing 920 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: Marquise Brown early, I mean, especially when they lose for 921 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: she Rice. I think they were asking him to do 922 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: a lot of things and it wasn't necessarily working out right. 923 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: Everybody looked at them like, oh my god, it's the 924 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 1: fastest guy in the history of the Combine goes to 925 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: the Chiefs and they had him running like go routes 926 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: and it just wasn't really happening. But as the season progressed, 927 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,280 Speaker 1: you figured that they were finding new ways to integrate 928 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: him into the offense, finding new ways to sort of 929 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: make it work with him. And I think now, I mean, 930 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: we know Andy Reid after a bye generally is pretty deadly. 931 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: Giving him a couple of weeks to sort of work 932 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 1: some things out. I think they're going to have some 933 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: tricks up their sleeve and somehow. I think Xavier Worthy's 934 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 1: going to be the guy, whether it's in the running game, 935 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: whether it is as kind of a downfield thread or 936 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: maybe a more fully formed wide receiver. I think he's 937 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: the guy to keep an eye on Lakwan Which player 938 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: is most critical to their team's success coming up this week. 939 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 2: I'm going to go on the eagle side. I think 940 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 2: Aj Brown. I think he needs to have another game 941 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 2: where he's not the focal point, but where he's showing 942 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 2: up in chunk yards and he's showing up in the 943 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 2: end zone. I think it will be very crucial because 944 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 2: they shut him down. I'm not too sure who's going 945 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 2: to be able to step up other than Saquon on 946 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 2: the ground, but I think Spac's got a huge game 947 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 2: plan just around Saquon Barkley, being that this is this 948 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 2: first time experiencing the Saquon Barkley experience. So I think 949 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 2: aj Brown needs to step up in a huge way. 950 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 2: He needs to get in back in that book to 951 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 2: enter excellence and you know, get his mind rate and 952 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 2: sho show up in the end zone. 953 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 1: All right, Who you got, Floria? 954 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 3: Travis Kelce, which has been the answer for a while 955 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 3: for the Chiefs, but not so much this season. But 956 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 3: he leads the Chiefs and yards this year and targets, 957 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 3: catches all of that against zone coverage and when teams 958 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 3: are not blitzing. And I think that's very important because 959 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 3: the Eagles use zone at a very high rate. They 960 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 3: also blitz at the fourth lowest rate in the NFL. 961 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 3: And the other thing is they use Cover six as 962 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 3: their defense and hires three in the NFL. The Chiefs 963 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 3: really haven't seen that a whole bunch this year. So 964 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 3: I think it's going to come down to the chemistry 965 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 3: that Mahomes and Kelsey has and just his ability to 966 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 3: find this soft spot in zones. I think that is 967 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 3: something that could be like a third and long. Oh 968 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 3: backbreaking catch from Travis Kelcey. Stuff like that, I think 969 00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 3: is how he's going to put his fingerprints on the game. 970 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Jalen Hurts because I 971 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: think if you are Steve Spagnolo, job number one is 972 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: making sure Saquon doesn't beat you. And the Chiefs have 973 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: been pretty good against the run all year long. They 974 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: have the fourth fewest explosive plays allowed on the ground 975 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: during the regular season. They just weren't giving up a 976 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: ton of chunk plays in the running game. So I 977 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: think you're gonna really see a focus on making sure 978 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,760 Speaker 1: Saquon doesn't have one of those big, huge Saquon games, 979 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: which means I think Jalen Hurts is gonna have to 980 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: step up. And look, the last time these two teams played, 981 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts had himself a great game. Obviously, the Eagles 982 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: came up short, but I don't think you could put 983 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,800 Speaker 1: any of that on Hurts. So I think he's gonna 984 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 1: have to kind of, you know, bottle up and refined 985 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,439 Speaker 1: whatever it was that worked a couple of seasons ago. 986 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: Because I think they're gonna need him. And when I 987 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 1: say he has to have a good game. I don't 988 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,399 Speaker 1: think he's got to go for three hundred. I don't 989 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: think he needs to have like four touchdown passes or 990 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: anything like that. But he's got to be efficient. He's 991 00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: got to be willing to take shots down the field 992 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: when he has them. He's going to have to be 993 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: willing to get out of the pocket and run when 994 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 1: he has those opportunities as well. But because I think 995 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are going to try their hardest to take 996 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 1: Saquan away, then that means Jalen Hurts is going to 997 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: have to be the guy to step up and make 998 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,359 Speaker 1: plays when they need him to. I mean, look, these 999 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 1: are two good defensive teams. The Eagles, at least statistically 1000 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 1: this year, I think were the better offensive team. If 1001 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: you were going to give a team the edge, we're 1002 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 1: gonna pick the winners in just a second. Look on, 1003 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean, like, which team do you think is the 1004 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,959 Speaker 1: more well rounded of the two teams? Here? 1005 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 2: Chiefs, you got to go to experience. Man, they've been 1006 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 2: there before. They know how to win big games, and 1007 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 2: they know how to be clutch. And we've talked about 1008 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 2: Mahomes magic. You can't stop that. Once he gets to 1009 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,399 Speaker 2: a star Barer, So I got to give the edge 1010 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,280 Speaker 2: to them, man with coaching with Mahomes and just overall 1011 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 2: experiences just being there. 1012 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: Can you get out of your feelings enough Florida to 1013 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: give us an objective take on this? 1014 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 3: Yes, I think once you factor in Andy Reid and 1015 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,399 Speaker 3: Steve Spagnola, which I think is the biggest edge these 1016 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 3: teams have is the coaching department. I think they are 1017 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 3: the greatest head coach coordinator combination that I've ever seen. 1018 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 3: I think that pushes it to the chief side. But 1019 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 3: just talent wise, and like comparing the roster, I think 1020 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 3: the Eagles are the best roster in football. So if 1021 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 3: we took away all of the like the Chiefs magic 1022 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 3: and stuff and just broke it down roster wise, I 1023 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 3: think the edge goes to Philly. 1024 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: I think they are a deeper team. I think the 1025 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: Eagles are a deeper team. But coaching matters, especially in 1026 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, especially when you've had a couple of 1027 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 1: weeks to prepare, and so I think that that is 1028 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: where Kansas City I think has a bit of an advantage. 1029 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: And look, Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes is a legitimate advantage 1030 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: right what he does and what he's able to do, 1031 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,839 Speaker 1: especially in clutch moments, I just can't be discounted. And 1032 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: I think that goes a long way too, even if 1033 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: the offense, like I think, I think down for pound, 1034 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles offensively are a better team than Kansas City, 1035 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: but Patrick Mahomes sort of counts double because of what 1036 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: he's able to do with the football in his hands. 1037 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 3: Andy Reid as well. 1038 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you're if we're putting Amy Reid 1039 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 1: versus Nick Sirianni, I don't think it's a contest. 1040 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 3: And you got to add in spags to like. Andy 1041 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 3: Reid also has maybe the greatest decordinator in his bag too, 1042 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 3: Like I mean. 1043 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, agree, although look, let's not knock Vic Fangio because 1044 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: also know who's outstanding with what he does as well. 1045 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: So all right, it's time to see who will deliver. 1046 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: Presented by Uber Eats. Simple question, gentlemen, Lakwan, you first 1047 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,760 Speaker 1: pick your winner and your Super Bowl MVP. 1048 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP Patrick Mahomes and the chiefs man. He's 1049 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,919 Speaker 2: going to be catching up the Brady with them super 1050 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 2: Bowl MVPs. 1051 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: So that's a clear cut man, all right, Uh, Lareel, 1052 00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,760 Speaker 1: you're you're a super Bowl winner in your MVP. 1053 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 3: I feel very so like if the Eagles are gonna win, 1054 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 3: they're gonna have to kick the door down and take 1055 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 3: it and not put the ball in Mahomes' hands late. Unfortunately, 1056 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 3: I don't think that is the case. I think Patrick 1057 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 3: Mahomes has the ball late. And this was my preseason 1058 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,760 Speaker 3: Super Bowl prediction was Chiefs over Eagles, so I'm sticking 1059 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 3: with that. I'm thinking it'll be close, like a field 1060 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 3: goal game or something like that. And obviously if they win, 1061 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,720 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is winning the MVP. 1062 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we make it unanimous, which we did 1063 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: that for the championship games and you see how that 1064 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 1: turned out for us. 1065 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1066 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,879 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I think the Chiefs figure out 1067 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 1: a way to get through and win this thing. I 1068 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: think I have a thirty one twenty eight if I 1069 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 1: if I have it right, and I think Mahomes, I 1070 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 1: think Mahomes pulls your MVP award yet again. I will 1071 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: give you my hot take for the Super Bowl. I 1072 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: don't know if I said it on this show. I 1073 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,399 Speaker 1: know I've told some other people, but my hot take 1074 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 1: is that the Chiefs win the Super Bowl and on 1075 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 1: the podium Travis kelce and now to his retirement and 1076 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: proposes to Taylor Swift and the internet melts. The Internet 1077 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: melts down, and she's pregnant and she announces she's final. 1078 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:09,800 Speaker 2: Just blow it out in place up. 1079 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 3: And we get a whole off season of oh, this 1080 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 3: is why the Bills got cheated. 1081 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1082 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 3: No, I actually agree with Margus. I think this is 1083 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey's last game. 1084 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I think at some point he 1085 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 1: looks around and you know, look, what else is there 1086 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 1: for him? Right? What else is there for him to accomplish? 1087 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 1: Really on the field. He's thirty five, He would be 1088 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,879 Speaker 1: thirty six sometime of early next season, And at some point, 1089 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: like do you want to go through the stress and 1090 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,239 Speaker 1: strain of another training camp? It's two days and one 1091 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,439 Speaker 1: hundred degree heat. Meanwhile, he's watching his brother make super 1092 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 1: commercials on bear skin rugs. They're getting paid one hundred 1093 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 1: million dollars to do a podcast. He's got a billionaire girlfriend. 1094 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey loses money playing football, Like that is true. 1095 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 1: That's at some point you're just like, do I really 1096 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: still need this? 1097 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 3: I believe that he wanted the Kelsey brothers wanted to 1098 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 3: go out together. But then when they won the second one, 1099 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 3: he was like, I can't turn down the chance to 1100 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:11,800 Speaker 3: win three. 1101 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,839 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't do that. I can't walk away 1102 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 1: from it right now. So yeah, that's my that is 1103 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: my hot take. Chiefs. With the Super Bowl, Travis Kelcey 1104 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 1: announces his retirement proposes by the way, that was Who 1105 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: Will Deliver, presented by Uber Eats, where you can get 1106 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: the best deals on game day food all season long, 1107 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 1: the official on demand delivery partner of the NFL. Order. 1108 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,280 Speaker 1: Now the exit interviews are done, the Super Bowl will 1109 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,760 Speaker 1: be done, the NFL season will officially be over as 1110 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: of Sunday night, but the podcast rolls on. We're back 1111 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,800 Speaker 1: with you next week and we'll be talking about I 1112 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: don't know something, I don't have the I don't have 1113 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: our little information sheet in front of me right now. 1114 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 3: Pros versus Joe's Lakwan versus the Kangaroo, sports signs. 1115 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: Or whatever it's like, and man versus animal, Lakwan v. Kangaroo. 1116 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: That's what we'll talk about next week. But the meantime, 1117 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 1: that'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy 1118 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: Football pot Castay, Happy, safe, and healthy, Do good, and 1119 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: live well. Enjoy Super Bowl fifty nine everybody, and we 1120 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 1: will talk to you again next week. Wow. 1121 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:32,720 Speaker 2: That could probably box a kangaroo.