WEBVTT - Listener Mail: Blue Öyster Cult 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.280 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:10.840 My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:14.880 Listener Mail. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick, 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:18.080 and it's Monday. We're bringing you messages that you sent us. 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:20.400 Now we're reading them back to you. Rob do you 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:22.439 want to start off today with a couple of these 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:26.440 emails related to our end of December episodes? Yes, let's 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.120 let's call Carnie the mail boat over here. He has 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:32.800 he's decked out in the last of his Christmas regalia. Here, 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:35.920 he needs a bath. That that Santa suit really needs 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.360 to be washed. It's getting kind of oily now, but uh, 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:41.760 but we're I think he's almost over it for the 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.040 year and we'll be ready to move on to Valentine's 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:47.480 Stay soon. Yeah. Yeah, this this will hopefully round out 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:55.800 the Christmas feedback here. So this one comes to us 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.240 from Andrew Andrew Rides. First, i'd like to say thank 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:01.000 you for putting on a great podcast. As one of 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:05.360 your fellow I Heart hosts might say, it's real aces 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.320 that maybe Josh and shot Either way, I'll take it. 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.200 I must admit I am a few episodes behind on 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.560 your show, as I follow a lot of different pods, 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.360 and a deleting an unlistened to pod hurts just a 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.720 little bit deep down, even if it's a few weeks old. 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.080 I was recently listening to your Christmas Tree episode and 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:26.560 had to write in concerning bubble lights. My grandmother was 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.120 the proud owner of many beautiful and some not so 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:33.000 beautiful antique Christmas decorations, among which were several bubble lights. 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.240 These did not decorate the tree, but we're instead standalone 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.640 decorations which could be directly plugged into an outlet. They 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.600 were most commonly used as night lights in the bathrooms 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.400 and bedrooms around the holidays. The lights were shaped more 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.400 or less like an inverted cartoon toadstool, with the red 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.080 and green plastic cap covering a small light bulb and 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:55.080 a thin glass cylinder extending upward, ending in a rounded point. 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.840 The glass was colored red or was filled with a 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.760 red liquid. I can't recall which. I can remember being 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.280 mesmerized by these as a little kid, even and even 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.480 touching the liquid containing tube. That thing was pretty dang hot, 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:08.360 and I'm glad I didn't come in contact with the 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.600 liquid inside Sadly, Grandma passed away a few years ago, 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:13.880 but for all I know, these decorations are in a 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.480 box somewhere in the house where my grandpa still lives. 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.799 I will have to mention it next time I talk 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.160 with my family. Thanks Andrew. PS. Absolutely loving the Weird 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.400 House Cinema episodes and have actually seen two of the 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.079 movies you've covered so far. In pre COVID times, I 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.400 would gather around twice a year with friends for B 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:33.679 movie nights. One of the attendees is a self proclaimed 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.400 B movie buff and owned a DVD, yes, an actual 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:39.320 DVD of troll Too. It was a delight to watch 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.880 and I loved your inside. Furthermore, my wife and I 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.440 were happy to find shopping mall on Voodoo. That's vu du. 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.880 That's a like an online film rental thing. I believe 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.919 this past October during our annual binge of campy horror movies. 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.440 This did not disappoint. I know Christmas is now passed, 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:58.919 but I would love to suggest the holiday B movie 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:01.920 Silent Night, Dead Night Too. It is definitely one of 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.480 my favorite crap films and I still quote it often 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.680 when the trash needs taken out. I think that's referring 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.840 to a to an iconic scene from the film where 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.760 a killer walks up to someone who's taking out the 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.720 garbage and just says garbage day and then shoots him dead. 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.000 Have you seen that one? Uh? No, I think the 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.800 only ones I've seen were the later weirder ones, the 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:29.880 one that was at Brian Jonza did where Nicky Rooney 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:33.720 is a demented toymaker. Oh, yes, yes, yes, I think 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.640 we did watch that. We did watch their trailer talk 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.280 or something for trailer talk on on YouTube back in 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.440 back in the day. Yeah, so, I don't know, we 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:45.320 could always re explore. There's some of those trailer talk 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.600 movies I'd love to to come back and give more 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.240 attention to. I'm not sure if that's the one, but 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.240 it definitely stands out as a weird Christmas movie. Andrew, 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.880 I'm interested in this tradition of using bubble lights as 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.760 night lights for trips to the bathroom, and that sounds 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:03.560 like it would induce some serious hypnogogia as you're like 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.160 going back to bed and you've had a psychedelic experience 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:11.120 while urinating. Yeah, yeah, it's certainly if you uncover more 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:15.960 about your your late grandmother's bubble lights. We'd we'd love 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.440 to see some pictures of them or some footage of 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.040 them in action. Uh. And then also on the point 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.800 about being backed up on pods, I just wanna uh say, 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:26.800 to everybody out there, you know, we realize there are 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.920 a lot of podcasts out there to listen to, especially now, 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:33.200 I mean more than ever, every every celebrity has one 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.440 in addition to all the podcasts that existed before, and 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.520 so there's just a lot to listen to. So we 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.440 feel honored that that any of you, you know, still 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:43.440 keep us in rotation, that we're still a part of 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.680 your your you know, gaily, weekly or monthly listening life, 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:51.600 whatever that consists of. And however technology is forcing you 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:55.000 to interact with us. It truly warms my heart every 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.000 time someone would give us an hour that they could 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.599 be spending listening to the reunion of the cast of 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:09.680 Hawaii five. Oh, it's probably a great podcast. All right, 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.840 Let's move on to the next one here. This one 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.640 is titled Lock and Key, and it comes to us 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:18.039 from Jim. Hey, guys, I've been listening to your show 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.080 for about a year and love it a great blend 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.960 of educational and nerd humor. Speaking of nerds, I played 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.359 D n D back in the late seventies early eighties. 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.800 I have a first edition of Deities and Demi Gods 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:34.080 with the UH male Nibonian. I believe that's been reference 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:39.760 in reference to UH. But Michael moorecox elric stories uh melanimity. 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.400 I'm never sure how to had pronounced the name of 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.640 that that world. But then also the Cathulhu mythhoust He 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:49.040 mentions UH continues, and I am now playing the latest 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.640 version with my kids twelve, seventeen and twenty. My daughter 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:56.159 told me about a class called an artificer. Uh. And 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:57.960 when you mentioned coming up with the d n D 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.479 character for rain Borg, the Swedish lock collector, I decided 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.760 to let you know about this class. Quote masters of invention. 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:09.479 Artificers use ingenuity and magic to unlock extraordinary capabilities in 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:13.960 objects jim Ps. My mother grew up in St. John's, Newfoundland, 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.440 and I've been there several times. If you ever visit, 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.840 you should hike the East Coast Trail. Much of it 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:23.520 is along gorgeous cliffs. I saw a whale and an iceberg. Uh. 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:28.040 Now this is numerous great points in here so that 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.520 that particular new class I have only a little bit 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.880 of experience with that. We briefly had somebody in our 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:35.640 d n D group that used that class. They were 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.360 like a gnome that had some sort of a high 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.720 tech cannon that marched around with him or something. Um, 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.279 but that's all that I've run into on that front. 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.000 But I know you could also, I guess you could 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.120 also with rainboard. You could go with a like a 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.240 you know, you could still go with the traditional rogue 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:56.640 build and just really dedicate yourself to certain like traps 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.960 and locks, special specialties like dungeon delver and so forth. 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.480 As for Newfoundland, UM, yeah, I haven't been back since 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.720 I was a child, But if I ever do, I'll 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:07.559 have to look up that trail. I'd love to return 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.800 at some point. I know. I laughed at the sentence 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:11.880 where Jim said I saw a whale in an iceberg. 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.600 But uh, but but actually I get it. If you 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:18.000 if he just happened to see, um, a marine mammal 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.040 in the wild in a place, especially if you're not 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:24.800 used to seeing them normally, it is a very powerful experience. 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:28.280 I I still sometimes just think about not too long ago, 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:34.000 when I happened to unexpectedly see. I think they were dolphins. 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.240 I guess they would have been dolphins or porpoises, but 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:41.560 probably dolphins splashing around in this kind of marshy estuary 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:45.640 way back from the coast along coastal Georgia that I 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:47.680 totally didn't expect at all. I was, you know, so 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:49.960 this is a place with like, you know, a tall 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.880 grass and mud and the water that's there, especially at 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.960 low tide, is probably not more than a few feet deep. Um. 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.360 But but yeah, for some reason, there were there were 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.640 dolphins making a ruck us. Yeah. Yeah. Anytime you get 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:04.280 to see creatures like that in their natural habitat, it's 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.760 it can be a real magical experience. And as far 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.720 as icebergs go, I'd love to to see one as 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.800 an adult, because when I was a kid in Newfoundland, 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.080 you know, there'd be icebergs. It seems like all the time. 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:17.920 I remember adults pointing icebergs out to me, and um, 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:19.960 you know, at the time, your kids you don't really care. 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:21.680 It's like taking a kid to see the Grand Canyon. 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:25.640 They don't they're not really that connected with checking it out. Um. 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:27.240 So I'd love to to see one again. As an 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.600 adult that would be neat. I was about to say, 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.240 I mean, I wonder, with with warming climate, if they're 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.760 becoming less common. But actually, if anything, I wonder if 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.800 actually would go the opposite way, if they would become 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.040 more common because more ice is calving off of the 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.760 fixed shelves and floating away. Yeah, a good point. I 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:47.720 don't know, we should look into that. Yeah, I mean, 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.040 icebergs alone could be a great topic. There's a lot 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.120 of science there, there's a lot of history, and we've 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:53.560 got it. I guess we touched on it a little 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.240 bit when we were doing pi Crete because there was 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.120 the idea of like, well, let's just get a what 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:02.000 if we tried to make ships out of iceberg, etcetera. 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.839 All right, now, A couple of people responded to the 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.280 part of our lock and key episode where we were 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.440 asking the question of like, wait a minute, so if 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.840 you're just talking about like mass produced commercial locks and keys, 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:20.439 how unique are they? You know, like to what lengths 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.160 do they go to make sure that one key they 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:27.560 manufacture doesn't accidentally open the wrong lock? Well, we heard 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.080 from a couple of people about this, and the messages 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:36.320 we heard were not the most reassuring um Marsh. Marsh 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.160 writes in to say about locks when it comes to 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.320 forward cars and trucks. On more than one occasion, I 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.560 locked my keys in the car and the key of 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.840 a random passerby opened my door. A lot of factors 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.720 play into the equation. Where on the key, where on 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.640 the lock? And how much giggling You do love the show, Marsh? 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:59.680 Uh that had they had jiggling right, Yeah, as they said, 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:05.480 gig like that really gets it open. I mean sometimes 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:13.000 giggling makes a mad thief, right, it's very suspicious if 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.560 you're the person at this door that is clearly not 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.480 your own, and you're just laughing maniacally while you jiggle 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:23.199 your key around inside your rogue thief class. But you've 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.960 been hit with the joker gas and so you're just 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:30.679 NonStop giggling all the way to the grave. Ye, indefinite madness. Well, Marsh, 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:32.960 I do not know how accurate your claim is here, 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:41.960 but if you are right, that is a little worrying alright. 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.000 This next one comes to us from Mitch. Mitch is 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.959 responding on the discussion module, which I don't think we've 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:50.880 mentioned very recently. But if you still go to the Facebook, 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:52.760 there is a group called the Stuff to Bow Your 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.959 Mind Discussion Module, and that's a place where a listeners 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:59.640 can gather and discuss stuff to blew your mind and 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:03.360 weird house and I popped in there from time to time. Still, um, 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:07.959 you know, despite my deeper desire to leave Facebook behind, 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.600 I still go there. Uh. So anyway, it's a place 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.880 you can go and uh and comment. And this is 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.880 what Mitch had to say over at the discussion module quote. So, 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.480 I was just listening to the recent key and key 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.880 and lock podcast, I said, key and peel podcast. Uh. 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.560 And when they mentioned the uniqueness of modern key locks, 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.720 it reminded me of a very funny story about my 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.360 first apartment. I moved out of my mom's house, and 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.400 when I got the keys to my apartment, I kept 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.960 them on my set of car keys, separate from my 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.120 mom's house keys, which was on my set of work keys. 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.600 A week after moving in, I just through habit I 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.959 used my mom's key on my apartment and the lock opened. 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:48.040 I didn't realize until I changed and felt my car 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.240 keys in my pocket that I had used my mom's 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.080 keys to open the door. Very confused, I compared the 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.000 keys and they were identical. I did some research and 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.080 it turns out that this particular lock had a set 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.640 of something like sixty four different keys, and it just 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.360 so happened that my first apartment had the same identical 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.400 lock as my mom's house. See. Now this is interesting 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:10.120 because you start getting into sort of the the chances 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.920 that one key, the key to one lock would open 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.840 another lock. And I feel like, if you were playing 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.440 Dungeons and Dragons, your dungeon master might just completely shut 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.080 you down. If you were like, I want to roll 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.920 see if my key opens this lock. You know there's 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:25.839 got there's there's gonna be a chance, at least give 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:27.520 me like a one and a chance, and they might 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:28.960 be like, no, no, no, you've got the wrong key. 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.880 It that never works in video games. That's a good point. 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.240 What what if it did work in video games? That 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:35.640 that would be kind of great, Like you could just 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:39.920 roll the dice with trying random keys on the wrong doors. Yeah, 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.640 but it it would probably break the order of a 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.160 lot of games, right, this idea that the keys have 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:49.040 specific locks and locks have specific keys, and if that 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.520 is not true, then you know, it's like the order 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.880 falls out of this. Uh simulated universe, but it's kind 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.920 of a false order. It's like it's not an order 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:00.000 that we have in in in the real world. Uh oh, 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.200 this is actually this raises something that I have thought 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.360 about talking about on the podcast before, which is a 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:10.559 a question about narratives that comes up specifically in video games, 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.880 which is that um video games will often use different 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:17.280 kinds of lengths to go to different kinds of lengths, 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.760 and use different kinds of devices to ensure that you, 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:24.800 to some degree stay on the correct path of the narrative. Right, 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.480 if it's a video game where you can go to 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.240 different places, they want to try to keep you from 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.000 going to the place you need to go at the 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:33.360 end of the game first, Right, you know that they 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.400 want you to follow a certain kind of story. And 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.760 and I wonder about how that affects the idea of 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.200 narrative and how narrative sinks in with us, and how 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.800 that's different from you know, just a book where you 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:47.160 assume somebody will just read one page at a time. Yeah, 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.520 because you still you know, you want to create like 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.880 a wide open feel for a world. But then also 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:54.679 you have a story that needs to be uh followed, 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.480 or even you have characters that need to be engaged 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.600 with or developed, and so yeah, you create lot of 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:05.000 sort of artificial choices a lot of the times, or 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:07.079 or sometimes it takes the form of speaking of locks 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.679 and keys. Whether you're playing something like like that new 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.560 cyberpunk game or if you're playing something like you know, 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:17.319 Classic Silent Hill, you know, you encounter locked doors, they 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:21.040 clearly cannot be unlocked because they're not truly doors. They're 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.680 just a tend doors to create the idea that there 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.400 are other rooms in this compound or other businesses in 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.760 this city, but really there's nothing there. Well, yeah, and 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.600 that highlights the issue that whenever we experience a story, 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.720 whenever we engage in a story, we're having to do 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.080 so sort of by consent, like we're agreeing mentally to 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.280 be a part of this narrative, to take it as real, 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.960 to suspend disbelief and all that kind of stuff. But 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.640 that gets into funny territory where if you're if you're 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:48.960 sort of doing that every time you play a story 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:52.720 driven video game, but you're also testing the limits, so 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.720 you're sort of like going both ways, negotiating your own 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.640 level of engagement with the story on its terms. If 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.760 you're kind of trying to like and I get in here, 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:02.880 this place I'm not supposed to go, you know where 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:07.800 the elder stage did not tell me to travel. Next. Yeah, 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:09.480 it gets it gets interesting. I don't know. And of 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.600 course it depends on the world that's being created, like 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.000 I don't know this in like Silent Hill too, which 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.280 was a game I really loved back in the day. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:20.400 And in a way in that world locked doors that 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.920 go nowhere, that where there's nothing on the other side, 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.840 that that feels kind of fitting because you're in this 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:30.040 this strange reality that is kind of wedged between our 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.080 world and another. So that kind of setting, it makes 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:42.240 sense that you have false doors to nowhere nightmare logic. Yeah, okay, 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.560 are you ready for this next message from Fritters, Let's 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:49.760 do it. Fritters writes in about Pucci, Guys, when you 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.760 were discussing Pucci's in the wild, I'm surprised no one 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.680 thought of scrappy Doo. He may not have been a 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.440 complete amalgam of what the kids are into, but he 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.440 was a rebellious kid. Care Arcter added, for no good 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:05.880 reason that everyone universally dislikes. Uh. And then here's the word. 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.760 Maybe I'm not familiar with this expression again BATA G 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.120 A N B A T T E S. I think 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:16.080 that might be in another language. Fritters, Well, Fritters, I 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:20.200 I absolutely recall Scrappy Doo, and even as a child, 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.480 I remember loathing Scrappy do If. Like you know, I 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.240 was watching Cartoon Network when I was in elementary school 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.320 and and a Scooby Doo episode with Scrappy Doo came on, 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:34.440 I remember that sinking feeling of like, oh no, yeah, 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.600 because I remember this as well because I never knew 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.080 what Scooby Doo episode I was going to be treated to. 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.520 Would it be the old the old episodes or would 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:45.920 it be the Scrappy Doo episodes? And yeah, scrappy Doo 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.280 was just awful, like he added nothing to it. He 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.080 just took away from all the other characters. And he 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.200 just looked dumb too. So I would agree that Scrappy 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.120 Doo is is perhaps one of the purer examples of 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:05.240 Pucci that we could we could probably point to. All right, 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:07.760 here's another one. This one comes to us from Scott 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:10.879 responding to the artifact episode that I did about the 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:15.080 Dr John d and his mirror or Mirrors. Scott writes, Hey, guys, 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:17.119 I enjoyed your show and Dr D and His Mirror, 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.280 as I do all of your shows. Just thought you 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.800 might find it interesting that his story was included in 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.960 the music lore of the band Blue Oyster Cult. Their manager, 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.960 Sandy Pearlman, had written a long sci fi mythos about 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.080 love crafty and ancient beings, probably of alien origin, who 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.240 interfered in Earth's destiny. One of the characters in the 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.600 story was actually Dr D, who's obsidian mirror or black 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:42.400 telescope allowed him to communicate with these beings. At first, 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.879 Perlman wanted to release a series of concept albums to 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.159 tell the entire story, but their record company, probably rightfully so, 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.119 would not let him because they thought it was not 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:53.000 commercially viable. But the story of Dr D and His 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.639 Mirror made it to their first album and There, and 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.040 the later Imaginose album, which did attempt to tell the 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.840 entire story. Pearlman had written, You can and he includes 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.040 some links to where you can listen to it and 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.640 where you can look at the lyrics as well as 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:13.320 the entire story. Um is apparently featured on on wiki. 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.359 If you just look up the imaginose anyway. They closed 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:20.080 by saying, just thought this was something you might find interesting. Wow, 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:24.040 I did not know that Blue Oyster Cult went like 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.840 I mean, I guess I've never explored Blueish Blue Oyster 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.200 Cult much beyond the singles, though I did see them 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.920 live one time when I was a child. Yeah, well 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.359 I was taking I was taken by my dad to 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.520 see them like a festival when I was a little kid. 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.480 So I I have felt of the Oyster shoals, but 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:44.879 they I don't know. I I didn't expect that they 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.240 would go this direction. I always thought of them as 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:51.480 just kind of like a cheesy seventies classic rock band. 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:55.080 I didn't realize they had like deep connection with with 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.520 like sci fi and horror lore. Well, you know, I 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.320 think I used to be the same way like I've Sally, 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.040 I knew I don't Fear the Reaper, which is which 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:06.159 is a great track. I'm not as into the what 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.880 the middle part that doesn't sound like the song but 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.680 but because it has whole deviation in the middle that 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:14.359 that has yet to grab me. But but I love 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.120 the rest of it. You know, it's a very snappy 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.760 tune and they have a song about Godzilla. They do. 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.440 They have the Godzilla song. Um. But earlier this this year, 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.280 actually I started looking around at Blue Oyster Colt a 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.240 little bit more, mainly because I just I don't know, 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:30.159 I guess they had a moment where I was just 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:32.080 like curious, like what else did they do? They clearly 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.000 did a lot of stuff. So first of all, I 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.160 have to say they have some of the most intriguing 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:39.000 album covers I've ever seen. Like, there's some very beautiful 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:43.120 album covers. I'm sure record collectors are are super into 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.159 the Blue Oyster Colt in some cases. And uh, I 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.720 started listening in particular to an album titled Fire of 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.119 Unknown Origin, which does indeed have just a wonderful bit 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.399 of cover art by the artist Greg Scott and is 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.000 it's a pretty interesting album. It's got Burning for You 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.080 on there, of that would be I guess the big single. 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:03.960 But then it also has a track that caught my 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:07.560 eyes titled Veteran of the Psychic Wars, because clearly there's 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.360 some sort of world building going on here, and one 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:13.800 of the writers on the song is Michael Moorecock. Uh, 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:16.439 the author that, interestingly enough, came up in an earlier 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.159 Listener mail in this episode the author of the l 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:22.280 Eric books. And also, yeah, I think my understanding is 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.560 that there is a very um you know, the nerddom 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.760 in Blue Oyster cult runs deep. So I haven't gone 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:32.080 back in to explore their discography more, but I I 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:34.280 certainly have the mere marked for, you know, a return 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.639 journey the next time I'm in the mood for for 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:39.520 that era of rock and roll. Well, I will say 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:41.679 when I saw them live, I was very young. I 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.639 don't remember it's super well, but I remember number one 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.520 that were heavy. Number two I remember that was the 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:51.600 first time I ever recalled the feeling of being at 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.840 a concert and feeling the base from the from the 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:59.679