1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Listener Mail. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick, 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: and it's Monday. We're bringing you messages that you sent us. 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Now we're reading them back to you. Rob do you 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: want to start off today with a couple of these 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: emails related to our end of December episodes? Yes, let's 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: let's call Carnie the mail boat over here. He has 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: he's decked out in the last of his Christmas regalia. Here, 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: he needs a bath. That that Santa suit really needs 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: to be washed. It's getting kind of oily now, but uh, 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: but we're I think he's almost over it for the 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: year and we'll be ready to move on to Valentine's 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: Stay soon. Yeah. Yeah, this this will hopefully round out 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: the Christmas feedback here. So this one comes to us 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: from Andrew Andrew Rides. First, i'd like to say thank 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: you for putting on a great podcast. As one of 18 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: your fellow I Heart hosts might say, it's real aces 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: that maybe Josh and shot Either way, I'll take it. 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: I must admit I am a few episodes behind on 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: your show, as I follow a lot of different pods, 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: and a deleting an unlistened to pod hurts just a 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: little bit deep down, even if it's a few weeks old. 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: I was recently listening to your Christmas Tree episode and 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: had to write in concerning bubble lights. My grandmother was 26 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: the proud owner of many beautiful and some not so 27 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: beautiful antique Christmas decorations, among which were several bubble lights. 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: These did not decorate the tree, but we're instead standalone 29 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: decorations which could be directly plugged into an outlet. They 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: were most commonly used as night lights in the bathrooms 31 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: and bedrooms around the holidays. The lights were shaped more 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: or less like an inverted cartoon toadstool, with the red 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: and green plastic cap covering a small light bulb and 34 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: a thin glass cylinder extending upward, ending in a rounded point. 35 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: The glass was colored red or was filled with a 36 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: red liquid. I can't recall which. I can remember being 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: mesmerized by these as a little kid, even and even 38 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: touching the liquid containing tube. That thing was pretty dang hot, 39 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: and I'm glad I didn't come in contact with the 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: liquid inside Sadly, Grandma passed away a few years ago, 41 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: but for all I know, these decorations are in a 42 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: box somewhere in the house where my grandpa still lives. 43 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: I will have to mention it next time I talk 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: with my family. Thanks Andrew. PS. Absolutely loving the Weird 45 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: House Cinema episodes and have actually seen two of the 46 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: movies you've covered so far. In pre COVID times, I 47 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: would gather around twice a year with friends for B 48 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: movie nights. One of the attendees is a self proclaimed 49 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: B movie buff and owned a DVD, yes, an actual 50 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: DVD of troll Too. It was a delight to watch 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: and I loved your inside. Furthermore, my wife and I 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: were happy to find shopping mall on Voodoo. That's vu du. 53 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: That's a like an online film rental thing. I believe 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: this past October during our annual binge of campy horror movies. 55 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: This did not disappoint. I know Christmas is now passed, 56 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: but I would love to suggest the holiday B movie 57 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: Silent Night, Dead Night Too. It is definitely one of 58 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: my favorite crap films and I still quote it often 59 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: when the trash needs taken out. I think that's referring 60 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: to a to an iconic scene from the film where 61 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: a killer walks up to someone who's taking out the 62 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: garbage and just says garbage day and then shoots him dead. 63 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: Have you seen that one? Uh? No, I think the 64 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: only ones I've seen were the later weirder ones, the 65 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: one that was at Brian Jonza did where Nicky Rooney 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: is a demented toymaker. Oh, yes, yes, yes, I think 67 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: we did watch that. We did watch their trailer talk 68 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: or something for trailer talk on on YouTube back in 69 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: back in the day. Yeah, so, I don't know, we 70 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: could always re explore. There's some of those trailer talk 71 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: movies I'd love to to come back and give more 72 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: attention to. I'm not sure if that's the one, but 73 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: it definitely stands out as a weird Christmas movie. Andrew, 74 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm interested in this tradition of using bubble lights as 75 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: night lights for trips to the bathroom, and that sounds 76 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: like it would induce some serious hypnogogia as you're like 77 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: going back to bed and you've had a psychedelic experience 78 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: while urinating. Yeah, yeah, it's certainly if you uncover more 79 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: about your your late grandmother's bubble lights. We'd we'd love 80 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: to see some pictures of them or some footage of 81 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: them in action. Uh. And then also on the point 82 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: about being backed up on pods, I just wanna uh say, 83 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: to everybody out there, you know, we realize there are 84 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: a lot of podcasts out there to listen to, especially now, 85 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: I mean more than ever, every every celebrity has one 86 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: in addition to all the podcasts that existed before, and 87 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: so there's just a lot to listen to. So we 88 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: feel honored that that any of you, you know, still 89 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: keep us in rotation, that we're still a part of 90 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: your your you know, gaily, weekly or monthly listening life, 91 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: whatever that consists of. And however technology is forcing you 92 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: to interact with us. It truly warms my heart every 93 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: time someone would give us an hour that they could 94 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: be spending listening to the reunion of the cast of 95 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: Hawaii five. Oh, it's probably a great podcast. All right, 96 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: Let's move on to the next one here. This one 97 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: is titled Lock and Key, and it comes to us 98 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: from Jim. Hey, guys, I've been listening to your show 99 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: for about a year and love it a great blend 100 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: of educational and nerd humor. Speaking of nerds, I played 101 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: D n D back in the late seventies early eighties. 102 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: I have a first edition of Deities and Demi Gods 103 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: with the UH male Nibonian. I believe that's been reference 104 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: in reference to UH. But Michael moorecox elric stories uh melanimity. 105 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm never sure how to had pronounced the name of 106 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: that that world. But then also the Cathulhu mythhoust He 107 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: mentions UH continues, and I am now playing the latest 108 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: version with my kids twelve, seventeen and twenty. My daughter 109 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: told me about a class called an artificer. Uh. And 110 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: when you mentioned coming up with the d n D 111 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: character for rain Borg, the Swedish lock collector, I decided 112 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: to let you know about this class. Quote masters of invention. 113 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: Artificers use ingenuity and magic to unlock extraordinary capabilities in 114 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: objects jim Ps. My mother grew up in St. John's, Newfoundland, 115 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: and I've been there several times. If you ever visit, 116 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: you should hike the East Coast Trail. Much of it 117 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: is along gorgeous cliffs. I saw a whale and an iceberg. Uh. 118 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: Now this is numerous great points in here so that 119 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: that particular new class I have only a little bit 120 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: of experience with that. We briefly had somebody in our 121 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: d n D group that used that class. They were 122 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: like a gnome that had some sort of a high 123 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: tech cannon that marched around with him or something. Um, 124 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: but that's all that I've run into on that front. 125 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: But I know you could also, I guess you could 126 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: also with rainboard. You could go with a like a 127 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, you could still go with the traditional rogue 128 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: build and just really dedicate yourself to certain like traps 129 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: and locks, special specialties like dungeon delver and so forth. 130 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: As for Newfoundland, UM, yeah, I haven't been back since 131 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: I was a child, But if I ever do, I'll 132 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 1: have to look up that trail. I'd love to return 133 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: at some point. I know. I laughed at the sentence 134 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: where Jim said I saw a whale in an iceberg. 135 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: But uh, but but actually I get it. If you 136 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: if he just happened to see, um, a marine mammal 137 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: in the wild in a place, especially if you're not 138 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: used to seeing them normally, it is a very powerful experience. 139 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: I I still sometimes just think about not too long ago, 140 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: when I happened to unexpectedly see. I think they were dolphins. 141 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: I guess they would have been dolphins or porpoises, but 142 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: probably dolphins splashing around in this kind of marshy estuary 143 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: way back from the coast along coastal Georgia that I 144 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: totally didn't expect at all. I was, you know, so 145 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: this is a place with like, you know, a tall 146 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: grass and mud and the water that's there, especially at 147 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: low tide, is probably not more than a few feet deep. Um. 148 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: But but yeah, for some reason, there were there were 149 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: dolphins making a ruck us. Yeah. Yeah. Anytime you get 150 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: to see creatures like that in their natural habitat, it's 151 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: it can be a real magical experience. And as far 152 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: as icebergs go, I'd love to to see one as 153 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: an adult, because when I was a kid in Newfoundland, 154 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, there'd be icebergs. It seems like all the time. 155 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: I remember adults pointing icebergs out to me, and um, 156 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: you know, at the time, your kids you don't really care. 157 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: It's like taking a kid to see the Grand Canyon. 158 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: They don't they're not really that connected with checking it out. Um. 159 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: So I'd love to to see one again. As an 160 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: adult that would be neat. I was about to say, 161 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder, with with warming climate, if they're 162 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: becoming less common. But actually, if anything, I wonder if 163 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: actually would go the opposite way, if they would become 164 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: more common because more ice is calving off of the 165 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: fixed shelves and floating away. Yeah, a good point. I 166 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: don't know, we should look into that. Yeah, I mean, 167 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: icebergs alone could be a great topic. There's a lot 168 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: of science there, there's a lot of history, and we've 169 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: got it. I guess we touched on it a little 170 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: bit when we were doing pi Crete because there was 171 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: the idea of like, well, let's just get a what 172 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: if we tried to make ships out of iceberg, etcetera. 173 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: All right, now, A couple of people responded to the 174 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: part of our lock and key episode where we were 175 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: asking the question of like, wait a minute, so if 176 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: you're just talking about like mass produced commercial locks and keys, 177 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: how unique are they? You know, like to what lengths 178 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: do they go to make sure that one key they 179 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: manufacture doesn't accidentally open the wrong lock? Well, we heard 180 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: from a couple of people about this, and the messages 181 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: we heard were not the most reassuring um Marsh. Marsh 182 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: writes in to say about locks when it comes to 183 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: forward cars and trucks. On more than one occasion, I 184 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: locked my keys in the car and the key of 185 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: a random passerby opened my door. A lot of factors 186 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: play into the equation. Where on the key, where on 187 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: the lock? And how much giggling You do love the show, Marsh? 188 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: Uh that had they had jiggling right, Yeah, as they said, 189 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: gig like that really gets it open. I mean sometimes 190 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: giggling makes a mad thief, right, it's very suspicious if 191 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: you're the person at this door that is clearly not 192 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: your own, and you're just laughing maniacally while you jiggle 193 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: your key around inside your rogue thief class. But you've 194 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: been hit with the joker gas and so you're just 195 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: NonStop giggling all the way to the grave. Ye, indefinite madness. Well, Marsh, 196 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: I do not know how accurate your claim is here, 197 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: but if you are right, that is a little worrying alright. 198 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: This next one comes to us from Mitch. Mitch is 199 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: responding on the discussion module, which I don't think we've 200 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: mentioned very recently. But if you still go to the Facebook, 201 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: there is a group called the Stuff to Bow Your 202 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: Mind Discussion Module, and that's a place where a listeners 203 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: can gather and discuss stuff to blew your mind and 204 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: weird house and I popped in there from time to time. Still, um, 205 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: you know, despite my deeper desire to leave Facebook behind, 206 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: I still go there. Uh. So anyway, it's a place 207 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: you can go and uh and comment. And this is 208 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: what Mitch had to say over at the discussion module quote. So, 209 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: I was just listening to the recent key and key 210 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: and lock podcast, I said, key and peel podcast. Uh. 211 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: And when they mentioned the uniqueness of modern key locks, 212 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: it reminded me of a very funny story about my 213 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: first apartment. I moved out of my mom's house, and 214 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: when I got the keys to my apartment, I kept 215 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: them on my set of car keys, separate from my 216 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: mom's house keys, which was on my set of work keys. 217 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: A week after moving in, I just through habit I 218 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: used my mom's key on my apartment and the lock opened. 219 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: I didn't realize until I changed and felt my car 220 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: keys in my pocket that I had used my mom's 221 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: keys to open the door. Very confused, I compared the 222 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: keys and they were identical. I did some research and 223 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: it turns out that this particular lock had a set 224 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: of something like sixty four different keys, and it just 225 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: so happened that my first apartment had the same identical 226 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: lock as my mom's house. See. Now this is interesting 227 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: because you start getting into sort of the the chances 228 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: that one key, the key to one lock would open 229 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: another lock. And I feel like, if you were playing 230 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: Dungeons and Dragons, your dungeon master might just completely shut 231 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: you down. If you were like, I want to roll 232 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: see if my key opens this lock. You know there's 233 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: got there's there's gonna be a chance, at least give 234 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: me like a one and a chance, and they might 235 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: be like, no, no, no, you've got the wrong key. 236 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: It that never works in video games. That's a good point. 237 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: What what if it did work in video games? That 238 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: that would be kind of great, Like you could just 239 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: roll the dice with trying random keys on the wrong doors. Yeah, 240 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: but it it would probably break the order of a 241 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: lot of games, right, this idea that the keys have 242 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: specific locks and locks have specific keys, and if that 243 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: is not true, then you know, it's like the order 244 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: falls out of this. Uh simulated universe, but it's kind 245 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: of a false order. It's like it's not an order 246 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: that we have in in in the real world. Uh oh, 247 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: this is actually this raises something that I have thought 248 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: about talking about on the podcast before, which is a 249 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: a question about narratives that comes up specifically in video games, 250 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: which is that um video games will often use different 251 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: kinds of lengths to go to different kinds of lengths, 252 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: and use different kinds of devices to ensure that you, 253 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: to some degree stay on the correct path of the narrative. Right, 254 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: if it's a video game where you can go to 255 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: different places, they want to try to keep you from 256 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: going to the place you need to go at the 257 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: end of the game first, Right, you know that they 258 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: want you to follow a certain kind of story. And 259 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: and I wonder about how that affects the idea of 260 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: narrative and how narrative sinks in with us, and how 261 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: that's different from you know, just a book where you 262 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: assume somebody will just read one page at a time. Yeah, 263 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: because you still you know, you want to create like 264 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: a wide open feel for a world. But then also 265 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: you have a story that needs to be uh followed, 266 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: or even you have characters that need to be engaged 267 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: with or developed, and so yeah, you create lot of 268 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: sort of artificial choices a lot of the times, or 269 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: or sometimes it takes the form of speaking of locks 270 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: and keys. Whether you're playing something like like that new 271 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: cyberpunk game or if you're playing something like you know, 272 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: Classic Silent Hill, you know, you encounter locked doors, they 273 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: clearly cannot be unlocked because they're not truly doors. They're 274 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: just a tend doors to create the idea that there 275 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: are other rooms in this compound or other businesses in 276 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: this city, but really there's nothing there. Well, yeah, and 277 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: that highlights the issue that whenever we experience a story, 278 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: whenever we engage in a story, we're having to do 279 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: so sort of by consent, like we're agreeing mentally to 280 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: be a part of this narrative, to take it as real, 281 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: to suspend disbelief and all that kind of stuff. But 282 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: that gets into funny territory where if you're if you're 283 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: sort of doing that every time you play a story 284 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: driven video game, but you're also testing the limits, so 285 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: you're sort of like going both ways, negotiating your own 286 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: level of engagement with the story on its terms. If 287 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: you're kind of trying to like and I get in here, 288 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: this place I'm not supposed to go, you know where 289 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: the elder stage did not tell me to travel. Next. Yeah, 290 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: it gets it gets interesting. I don't know. And of 291 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: course it depends on the world that's being created, like 292 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: I don't know this in like Silent Hill too, which 293 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: was a game I really loved back in the day. 294 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: And in a way in that world locked doors that 295 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: go nowhere, that where there's nothing on the other side, 296 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: that that feels kind of fitting because you're in this 297 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: this strange reality that is kind of wedged between our 298 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: world and another. So that kind of setting, it makes 299 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: sense that you have false doors to nowhere nightmare logic. Yeah, okay, 300 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: are you ready for this next message from Fritters, Let's 301 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: do it. Fritters writes in about Pucci, Guys, when you 302 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: were discussing Pucci's in the wild, I'm surprised no one 303 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: thought of scrappy Doo. He may not have been a 304 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: complete amalgam of what the kids are into, but he 305 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: was a rebellious kid. Care Arcter added, for no good 306 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: reason that everyone universally dislikes. Uh. And then here's the word. 307 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not familiar with this expression again BATA G 308 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: A N B A T T E S. I think 309 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: that might be in another language. Fritters, Well, Fritters, I 310 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: I absolutely recall Scrappy Doo, and even as a child, 311 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: I remember loathing Scrappy do If. Like you know, I 312 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: was watching Cartoon Network when I was in elementary school 313 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: and and a Scooby Doo episode with Scrappy Doo came on, 314 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: I remember that sinking feeling of like, oh no, yeah, 315 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: because I remember this as well because I never knew 316 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: what Scooby Doo episode I was going to be treated to. 317 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: Would it be the old the old episodes or would 318 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: it be the Scrappy Doo episodes? And yeah, scrappy Doo 319 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: was just awful, like he added nothing to it. He 320 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: just took away from all the other characters. And he 321 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: just looked dumb too. So I would agree that Scrappy 322 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: Doo is is perhaps one of the purer examples of 323 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: Pucci that we could we could probably point to. All right, 324 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: here's another one. This one comes to us from Scott 325 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: responding to the artifact episode that I did about the 326 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: Dr John d and his mirror or Mirrors. Scott writes, Hey, guys, 327 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: I enjoyed your show and Dr D and His Mirror, 328 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: as I do all of your shows. Just thought you 329 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: might find it interesting that his story was included in 330 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: the music lore of the band Blue Oyster Cult. Their manager, 331 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: Sandy Pearlman, had written a long sci fi mythos about 332 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: love crafty and ancient beings, probably of alien origin, who 333 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: interfered in Earth's destiny. One of the characters in the 334 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: story was actually Dr D, who's obsidian mirror or black 335 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: telescope allowed him to communicate with these beings. At first, 336 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: Perlman wanted to release a series of concept albums to 337 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: tell the entire story, but their record company, probably rightfully so, 338 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: would not let him because they thought it was not 339 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: commercially viable. But the story of Dr D and His 340 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: Mirror made it to their first album and There, and 341 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: the later Imaginose album, which did attempt to tell the 342 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: entire story. Pearlman had written, You can and he includes 343 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: some links to where you can listen to it and 344 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: where you can look at the lyrics as well as 345 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: the entire story. Um is apparently featured on on wiki. 346 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: If you just look up the imaginose anyway. They closed 347 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: by saying, just thought this was something you might find interesting. Wow, 348 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: I did not know that Blue Oyster Cult went like 349 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I've never explored Blueish Blue Oyster 350 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: Cult much beyond the singles, though I did see them 351 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: live one time when I was a child. Yeah, well 352 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: I was taking I was taken by my dad to 353 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: see them like a festival when I was a little kid. 354 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: So I I have felt of the Oyster shoals, but 355 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: they I don't know. I I didn't expect that they 356 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: would go this direction. I always thought of them as 357 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: just kind of like a cheesy seventies classic rock band. 358 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: I didn't realize they had like deep connection with with 359 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: like sci fi and horror lore. Well, you know, I 360 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: think I used to be the same way like I've Sally, 361 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: I knew I don't Fear the Reaper, which is which 362 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: is a great track. I'm not as into the what 363 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: the middle part that doesn't sound like the song but 364 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: but because it has whole deviation in the middle that 365 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: that has yet to grab me. But but I love 366 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: the rest of it. You know, it's a very snappy 367 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: tune and they have a song about Godzilla. They do. 368 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: They have the Godzilla song. Um. But earlier this this year, 369 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: actually I started looking around at Blue Oyster Colt a 370 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: little bit more, mainly because I just I don't know, 371 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: I guess they had a moment where I was just 372 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: like curious, like what else did they do? They clearly 373 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: did a lot of stuff. So first of all, I 374 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: have to say they have some of the most intriguing 375 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: album covers I've ever seen. Like, there's some very beautiful 376 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: album covers. I'm sure record collectors are are super into 377 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: the Blue Oyster Colt in some cases. And uh, I 378 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: started listening in particular to an album titled Fire of 379 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: Unknown Origin, which does indeed have just a wonderful bit 380 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: of cover art by the artist Greg Scott and is 381 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: it's a pretty interesting album. It's got Burning for You 382 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: on there, of that would be I guess the big single. 383 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: But then it also has a track that caught my 384 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: eyes titled Veteran of the Psychic Wars, because clearly there's 385 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: some sort of world building going on here, and one 386 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: of the writers on the song is Michael Moorecock. Uh, 387 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: the author that, interestingly enough, came up in an earlier 388 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: Listener mail in this episode the author of the l 389 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: Eric books. And also, yeah, I think my understanding is 390 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: that there is a very um you know, the nerddom 391 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: in Blue Oyster cult runs deep. So I haven't gone 392 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: back in to explore their discography more, but I I 393 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: certainly have the mere marked for, you know, a return 394 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: journey the next time I'm in the mood for for 395 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: that era of rock and roll. Well, I will say 396 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: when I saw them live, I was very young. I 397 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: don't remember it's super well, but I remember number one 398 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: that were heavy. Number two I remember that was the 399 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: first time I ever recalled the feeling of being at 400 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: a concert and feeling the base from the from the 401 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: audio in my chest. Like that's a unique to kind 402 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: of feel in your heart and your lungs. And it's 403 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: a little bit creepy. Yeah, yeah, and if you and yeah, 404 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: and I guess as a kid, you know, you you 405 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: know it's not you know, the caffeine or the alcohol 406 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: or what have you. You know, you're like, oh, this 407 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: is just the music. I'm not having a heart attack. Um. 408 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean there's a lot to explore with 409 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: the with Blue Oyster called they I read that they 410 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: said they have their their members. You look at they 411 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: have their names, but one of them has the name 412 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: Buck Dharma. That's the like lead guitar vocals. And apparently 413 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: at one point, like their producer the record labor label 414 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: was like, you guys all need some unique names. Let's 415 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: get you some some trindy names. And so they all 416 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: had to come up with their names, and this guy 417 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: Donald what Royster came up with Buck Dharma, and everybody 418 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: else came up with the name. But they we're like, yeah, 419 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: we're not using that, but he's stuck with Buck Dharma. 420 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: So I kind of like the sort of implied comedy 421 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: of that where he's like the only one who shows 422 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: up in costume or something. Yeah, but it's a cool name, 423 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: Buck Darma. I like it. Like you imagine if Slipknot 424 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: as a band where only one member wore the costume. Yeah, yeah, 425 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: that's sort of thing. Yeah, Okay. This next message is 426 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: about our Weird House Cinema episode on dr X. This 427 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: comes from Alberto Albert. Alberto says, greetings from Mexico. Hello, 428 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: Robin Joe. My name is Alberto. I'm forty nine in 429 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: an I T professional working for Amazon. I listened to 430 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: your January eight podcast about dr X and you had 431 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: a discussion about how to pronounce and then here the 432 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: xavier I guess as the standard American pronunciation, or at 433 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: least the x men pronunciation. Um, but Alberto says, I 434 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: figured i'd tell you additional ways we pronounced X in 435 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: Spanish and contribute to the confusion one clarification before I 436 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: start the explanation, otherwise it will be even more confusing. 437 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: In Spanish, the letter J sounds like the beginning of hanuka, 438 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: for example, and I think by using hanak means kind 439 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: of a guttural H sound. But then he also says, 440 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: or the beginning of hot or hero, so that's just 441 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: like a standard English pronunciation H sound, or in the 442 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: German number eight the in oct so I so I 443 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: guess it could be like kind of like an an 444 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: H e K sound, or just like a ha sound 445 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: or a ha sound. Okay, so Alberto says, English speakers 446 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: pronounced the X in Mexico as any other word with 447 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: X in Spanish, the X can sound as in English, 448 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: but also as the J in Spanish. As a matter 449 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: of fact, Mexico used to be spelled Mexico with a 450 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: J and nowadays, even though it's written with an X, 451 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: sounds like the Spanish J. In Spanish, there's also Javier, 452 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: which is written Xavier sometimes as in Francisco Xavier or 453 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: Xavier or Xavier Catholic missionary from the sixteenth century x 454 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: v I, but is pronounced as a regular J. Many 455 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: words inherited from pre Hispanic cult yours e g As 456 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: texs Aka, Mexica's Maya's ole Max have the letter X 457 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: written and mostly pronounced as S at the beginning of 458 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: a word, or s h in the middle. For example, 459 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: Sotel a woman's name, uh mihote some pit barbecued dish, Soshimilco, 460 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: a place near Mexico City. I discovered your podcast while 461 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: looking for science related ones and love your science discussion, 462 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: but even more the non science talks about literature, movies, artifacts, 463 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: et cetera. Really awesome content. Congratulations. I live in a 464 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: city called Cholula in the state of Puebla. I always 465 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: listen to your podcasts while I'm out running in the morning, 466 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: so as a Pavlovian dog, I now relate your voices 467 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: to the need for exercising. An interesting fact. I usually 468 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: go to run around a pyramid near my house. The 469 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: pyramid is buried and has a church at the top, 470 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: built by the Spaniards during the conquest. Seemingly it is 471 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: the largest volume pyramid in the world. And this is 472 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: he attached a picture for us to look at, which 473 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: is it's gorgeous and I would love to visit this 474 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: pyramid someday. But it is it's known as the Great 475 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: Pyramid of Cholula or Um. I'm gonna try to say 476 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: then waddle or word tolachi hual to pedal. I hope 477 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: I got close there. Whether the image that they included 478 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: is quite captivating. I love hearing that our voices are 479 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: now your your your Pavlov's bell for feeding the dog 480 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: except its exercise. I feel honored. Yeah, that's that's in 481 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: start contrast to the people who listen to the show 482 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: to go to sleep at night. Yeah, all right. Here's 483 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: another bit of listener mail. This one comes to us 484 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: from Danny, Hi, Robert, and Joe, thanks for your recent 485 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: Weird House Cinema episode about shopping Mall. My wife and 486 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 1: I were turned onto this movie because one of our 487 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: favorite bands has a song called Kilbot two thousand. After 488 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: we learned that it was a reference what it was 489 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: a reference to. We watched the movie and it has 490 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: remained a cult classic of ours ever since. The band, 491 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 1: by the way, is called or by Death, another classic 492 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: movie Nod and you should definitely check them out. Dark 493 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: and broody, but kind of folksy, western Ish piano cello rock. 494 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: It's a genre. Are you familiar with this group, Joe, 495 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: I've heard of them, and I don't think I've listened 496 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: to them. Okay, yeah, I mean either off to check 497 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: them out. They continue. I also had a general question 498 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: about your tastes in movies. I wonder if either of 499 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: you have ever reflected on why you're drawn to the weird, 500 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: sometimes not great films that you love. Do you like 501 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: modern mainstream cinema at all? Can you get into the 502 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: m c U or Academy Award nominees? Not saying you should, 503 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: just curious what it is that brings you back to 504 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: these sorts of films time and time again. I first 505 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: questioned this while listening to your episode about Medusa and Perseus, 506 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: and you kept referencing Clash of the Titans, but not 507 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: the modern two thousand and ten remake, but the one 508 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: cheesy version. I'm not saying the newer version is better, 509 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: but it holds pretty true to the original mythical stories 510 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: and has much better production value. Is there any reason 511 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: you were drawn to the original in this instance? Is 512 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: there may be a scientific study that tries to demonstrate 513 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: why some of fall in love with these weird movies 514 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: or why we develop our case in art at all, 515 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: or do we just chalk it all up to nostalgia. 516 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: Whatever the reason, keep it up. I love listening to 517 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: your analysis of the old weird stuff. If I've seen 518 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: the film you're talking about, I can revel in the 519 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: fact that somebody else enjoys it, and if I haven't 520 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: seen it, it immediately goes on my to watch list. 521 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: Thanks Danny. I think this is a really interesting question 522 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: about why some people are drawn to I don't know 523 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: why different people are drawn to different kinds of movies. 524 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: With the example of the Clash of the Titans two 525 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: thousand ten remake versus the original one, and like what 526 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: represents the difference in taste there? I think you have 527 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: absolutely at least for me, and I think I'm sure 528 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: for you to Rob. I identified a strong tendency of ours, 529 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: which is too prefer movies that are more like the 530 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: nine eight one version. And I think for me that 531 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: difference is I just am more interested in paying attention 532 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: to movies that, however flawed, fell more handmade as opposed 533 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: to feeling slick. I feel like I would rather watch 534 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: something that is imperfect but uh kind of I don't know, 535 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,239 Speaker 1: interesting labor of love where I can kind of uh 536 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: where where if we're talking about special effects, that I 537 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: can I can see the art going into it, as 538 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: opposed to something that looks very realistic and professionally done 539 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: and high budget and you can't see any of the 540 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: zippers or seems. Yeah, I think I think that makes sense. Um. 541 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's hard to draw a fine line 542 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: sometimes on on what one likes and doesn't like. I know, 543 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: for my own part, I do. I am drawn to 544 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: a lot of these old movies, and certainly nostalgia is 545 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: a is a big part of it. There are these 546 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: films that I'm nostalgic for, or even if I have 547 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: never seen it before, I I oftentimes remember the VHS 548 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: box or something, you know, so I have some connection 549 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: to it. I have some versions in and of its 550 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: stuck in my mind. Um. But yeah, I mean I 551 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: like I agree with the the sort hand Maine qualities. 552 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: You know, they there's something about you know, about feeling 553 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: about being able to to feel the craftsmanship of the piece, 554 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: and and and and often oftentimes it's uneven craftsmanship, you know, 555 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: and you get to sort of focus on the things 556 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: that that really work in the things that don't. I 557 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: find that sometimes pictures like this they allow me more 558 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: room to work my imagination as opposed to something that 559 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: is slicker and more like structurally whole to a certain degree. Yeah. Um, well, 560 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: so another example that comes up in in Danny's message 561 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: here is, um, Danny asks about whether we get into 562 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: like the m c U. I think that's Marvel movies, right, 563 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And my feeling about the Marvel 564 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: movies I've seen is that, uh, there's some that I've 565 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: seen that I, you know, really enjoyed watching, Like uh, 566 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: I like the Iron Man movies. I like Black Panther, 567 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: like other ones I didn't like as much. And just 568 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: see like I watched one of the Avengers movies one 569 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: time and I just honestly found it rather boring. But 570 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: in gen or all, I feel like that whole class 571 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: of like high budget, slick production. Uh, lots of lots 572 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: of c G. I that looks good in the sense 573 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: that it looks realistic, I guess, or it blends seamlessly 574 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: into the action of the film and you don't have 575 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: to think about the effects as special effects. They just 576 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: sort of automatically happen. I feel like when I watch 577 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: a lot of those movies, they're just like, you know, 578 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 1: I watched them and they're okay, and I don't hate them, 579 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: but I don't really have any thoughts about them. It's 580 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: just kind of like, well, that happened. But when I 581 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: watch one of these old, flawed movies, my brain just 582 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: kind of lights up with all kinds of thoughts and 583 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: I find them interesting. Yeah. Yeah, I can definitely relate 584 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: to that. Um. I mean, I'm into some of them. 585 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: The m c U titles. I liked the I like 586 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: thor Ragnarok. I thought that was a lot of fun. Uh. 587 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: It certainly had more weirdness to it than some of 588 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 1: these other films that they've put out. I'm I mean, 589 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm definitely down for the forthcoming Blade movie. I'm always 590 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: always uh in for a good Blade movie, no matter 591 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: who's playing. Um. And then of course, I'm I'm super 592 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: into Star Wars films, which are you know, you can 593 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: certainly compare them to the m c u uh certainly 594 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: the modern Star Wars films anyway, because they're you know, 595 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: very much this industry of creating content. So you know, 596 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: I like modern mainstream films as well. Um So, anyway, 597 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we could basically go on and on about 598 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: all this, and I guess we in a way will 599 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: continue to go on and on like this in our 600 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: Weird House Cinema episodes as we often consider these, you know, 601 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: weirder films or films from the past, though I I 602 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: do hope that will also cover some more recent weird 603 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: films on on that series, and I'm sure we will 604 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: as we proceed. Yeah, alright, This next one comes from Joe, 605 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: and this is also about weird how cinema. This goes 606 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: back to the Not of This Earth episode. Joe says, Hey, guys, 607 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: I've been quite enjoying your Weird House Cinema episodes. It's 608 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: been a fascinating exploration of both the creativity of and 609 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: limitations faced by low budget filmmakers. As you described the 610 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: bio guillotine assassin monster deployed by the villain and not 611 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: of this Earth. I immediately recalled one of the stranger 612 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: beings which is of this Earth, or more precisely, this 613 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: abyssal plane, the vampire squid. This gelatinous, bioluminescent creature is 614 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: neither quite a squid nor an octopus, but is a 615 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: curious in between evolutionary remnant. Uh. It was discovered as 616 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: part of a fascinating early twentieth century expedition to detect 617 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: deep sea life. It may or may not have been 618 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: the inspiration for the creature in the movie, but the 619 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: resemblance is uncanny. The history of deep sea exploration could 620 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: make a fascinating subject for an episode. All its own 621 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: beliefs have evolved over the centuries and been confronted with 622 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: reality as technological breakthroughs have permitted more and more thorough exploration. 623 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: The vampire squid is a suitable mascot for the eerie, alien, dangerous, 624 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: and little understood ecosystem that persists thousands of meters below 625 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: the surface. Keep up the great work, Joe. Well, Joe, 626 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: if you are interested in in us doing episodes about 627 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: the history of deep sea exploration, I feel like you 628 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: should go a few years back into our archives where 629 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: for for a year or so we were doing a 630 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: lot of that. Yeah, we did. We're looking at the bathmosphere, 631 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: looking at you know, various uh uh, you know, mythological 632 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: takes on the undersea world, and you know, I'm sure 633 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: we'll go back as well. We also conducted an interview 634 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 1: with a deep sea marine biologist, uh Diva Amon uh 635 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: a couple of years back, and that was a really 636 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: insightful uh interview, you know, getting to talk to somebody 637 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: who's whose work is devoted to deep sea environments and 638 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: has actually descended in submersibles into the depths. I highly 639 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: recommend that interview. Yeah, she's involved in deep sea conservation 640 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: and uh, she was a really wonderful guest, and maybe 641 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: we can have her back on the show someday. Yeah. Yeah, alright. 642 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: This next one comes to us from Adam Dear Joe 643 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: and Robert. I've been listening to your podcast for years now, 644 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: and today finally had something to add when listening to 645 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: your Weird House Cinema episode. Absolutely look forward to it 646 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: every week on dr X. I nearly jumped out of 647 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: my seat when I heard the first two quotes from 648 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: the movie. I immediately recognized them from a song No 649 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: Awareness on one of my most beloved albums, Doctor Octagon. 650 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: I don't listen to as much hip hop now as 651 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: I did in my youth, but the joy of coming 652 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: across a famous sample of for a well known song 653 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: is intense. Uh are you that familiar with the Doctor Octagon? Yeah? 654 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: I mean it's been a long time, but yeah, I 655 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: I've listened to this. Okay, I know Doctor Octagon has 656 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: come up in mixes for me, but I haven't done 657 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: a lot of I think specific diving on on this 658 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: particular album. Anyway, they continue cool. Keith, if you're not aware, 659 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: is the weird house Cinema of rap. Prolific in albums 660 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: and word usage. He's completely self aware and weird. Almost 661 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: every album he releases with a new nomda Bloom. This 662 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: includes an such as Dr Octagon, Dr Doom ten by 663 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: forty seven on the Cinembyites album Black Elvis, Jimmy Steele, Uh, 664 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: Jimmy Steel, Time Too, or Jimmy Steele, to name a few. 665 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: They are often genre heavy. His album dtr Octagon was 666 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: my first introduction to his music, and I've been a 667 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: fan of his strange music ever since. Uh So Yeah, 668 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to uh dive into Dr Octagon's work 669 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: a bit more, because, certainly when it comes to hip hop, 670 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: I really do enjoy some of the weirder stuff out there. 671 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: Um you know, I love the work of the late 672 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: um m F Doom Uh did a lot of really 673 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: interesting stuff. I like Our Faces another act that I've 674 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: I've enjoyed. So this is right up my alley. Anyway, 675 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: they continue on a different note. If you ever do 676 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: an episode about the Kalavala, as mentioned a month or 677 00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: so ago, please check out the Klavalle Pug and Eastonian 678 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: epic tale. It has the same Balto Finnic origins, but 679 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: since the cultures and the languages split thousands of years ago, 680 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: the tales are quite wildly different and are fun to 681 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: compar I know, I'm rambling one last thing. In the 682 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 1: previous episode, you mentioned the sampo or sampo in the Kalavala. Apparently, 683 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: the sampo is a mythical weapon in the Chinese tradition 684 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: as well, and the fact that this mysterious magical tool 685 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: is found in both cultures is explored in the two 686 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: thousand six finished Chinese film The Jade Warrior. It's Crouching 687 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: tiger meets Northern European cinema and is a real delight. 688 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: Always looking for to your content, be well, adam, Well, 689 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: that sounds exciting. Um, yeah, that I'm gonna I think 690 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: I am vaguely aware of the like. I remember seeing 691 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: some promotion of this online. I don't know if it 692 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: had a US release or or what, but it's it's 693 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: ringing a bell, but I don't think i've seen it. 694 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: You have my attention. I may have to look that up. 695 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: All right, we're out of time here, We're past time. Um. 696 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: The mail is beginning to melt down a bit, so 697 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: we need to unplug in from the wall and cool 698 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: off for about a week. But we'll be back with 699 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: more listener mail in the meantime. 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