1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody. Monday edition of The Klay Travis n. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show kicks off right now now. Jones down 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: over one thousand points this morning, bopen almost three percent 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: markets worldwide. Perhaps a reckoning with a lot of the 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: central bank policies, including our own FED policy that has 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: been coming for a long time, obviously affecting your four 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: O one k, affecting your stocks, affecting the entire economy, 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: and with it the political race that is underway which 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: we're going to be diving into today. We also have 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: a likely vice president vice president for the Harris ticket 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: announcement tomorrow. Everyone's saying, Shapiro, Clay, what are the better 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: betting markets setting about Shapiro right now? Yeah, exactly as 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: we're talking right at this moment, Buck sixty seven percent 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: chance of Shapiro, nineteen percent Tim Waltz, and then it 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: dropped off. Mark Kelly five percent, Andy Basher three mayor 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: Pete one percent, So big favorite for Shapiro. What happened 17 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: to rocketman Kelly failure to lift off? My friend, it 18 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: did not, you know, Houston had a problem. We've also 19 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: got a lot of the of the the latest in 20 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: the Kamala Trump showdown. H It's it's happening at at 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: ludacrous speed. It's going crazy here because the media is 22 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: having to formulate an entire uh, an entire narrative of 23 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: who Kamala Harris is and what she will do, while 24 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: also simultaneously propping up the Biden agenda and the narrative 25 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: that he's done a good job. Remember part of what 26 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: they've been saying for two weeks straight now, since Kamala 27 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: has been the hand picked but not by voters nominee 28 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party, Clay, that the storyline has been 29 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: Biden's done a great job. Kamala will continue the great 30 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: job that Biden has done. When everyone is watching, as 31 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, Vanguard, Charles Schwab, E Trade, et cetera. Accounts 32 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: are locking up because everyone's trying to see what's going 33 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: on with the money that they've Oh, this is four 34 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: to one cas and this is people's retirements we're talking 35 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: about here. It's really tough to make that case. I mean, Clay, 36 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: I was only out for a couple of days, but 37 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: it's like everything's gone to hell. You know, It's like 38 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: I've showed up here, I left you in charge, and 39 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: there's some you know, there were some keg stands clearly happening. 40 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: There's some red solo cups on the floor. 41 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: We got to clean up this mess of the economy 42 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: and the Biden Kamala mirage, real fast. 43 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: No doubt. And this is where I have to be honest. 44 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: She has made this race closer already than I thought 45 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: she would in the first two weeks. And I think 46 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: there's a complicity in the media. They are her top allies. 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: Fifteen days now, buck She's done no interviews, no public interactions. 48 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: She has done no statement off of a teleprompter in 49 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: fifteen days. And compare that to what the media was 50 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 3: demanding of Joe Biden. I think it's pretty clear what 51 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: they're gonna do. They are going to send Kamala to 52 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: the basement of whatever location she is in, and they 53 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: are going to run the weekend at Bernie's two campaign. 54 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: But instead of with Joe Biden, they're gonna do it 55 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 3: with Kamala, and they're gonna hope that Trump self destructs, 56 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 3: and they're going to try to make the entire race 57 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 3: about Trump, and they're going to try to just glide 58 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: Kamala in without having her say anything buck she has 59 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: no policy positions. 60 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: Now all she's. 61 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: Really done so far is put out written statements saying, Hey, 62 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: when I said I wanted to ban fracking, yeah, now 63 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: I don't. 64 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: Want to banfracking anymore. 65 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: When I said I want immigrants to have complete rights 66 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: basically as Americans, yeah, I don't leave that anymore. When 67 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: I said I wanted to defund the police, I don't 68 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: think we should defund the police. They're completely putting out 69 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: statements saying that every thing she said before she no 70 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: longer believes, and the media is complicitly spreading this swill. 71 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: And as a result, she has gotten a bounce that 72 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: is significant. And I said there was no way Biden 73 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 3: could beat Trump. I really stuck to it. I didn't 74 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 3: believe they could ever run him. I think Trump would 75 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 3: have trounced Biden. Kamala could beat Trump, and it's scary. 76 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: But everybody needs to get ready for this. Trump's campaign 77 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: needs to get more disciplined. They need to do a 78 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: better job of taking this case to the American public 79 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: than they have over the last two weeks, or he 80 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 3: could lose this race. 81 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: I think that what you're seeing with Kamala is the 82 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: Democrat machine at work in a way that they could 83 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: replicate with probably any known Democrat politician at this level. 84 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: Meaning I don't think that this is a testament to 85 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: anything about Kamala Harris other than this is what generic 86 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: democrat gets you against Trump. Joe Biden they were able 87 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: to present not only as generic Democrat in twenty twenty, 88 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: but through a complete fabrication, really we're able to also 89 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: position him as a uniter, as somebody you could trust 90 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: because he'd just been around so long. Basically they turned 91 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: and give them credit. I mean, it's total deception, but 92 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: it worked when people were scared and the media was 93 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: forcing everyone to hyperventilate more than anyone should have over 94 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: COVID and all the rest of it. When the media 95 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: was freaked out, or when the people were freaked out, 96 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 1: the media pounced and they were able to convince people 97 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: that Biden's age was an asset, meaning he's the old 98 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: grandpa you can trust and it's fine, and he'll hold 99 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: the country you know, close in a hug and everything. 100 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: He don't want Biden holding you too close. He's a weirdo, 101 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: you know. But that was the game they played with 102 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. It's we have a black female candidate whose 103 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: name you've heard because she's the VP, and the Democrat 104 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: machine is trying to then just make her the candidate, 105 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean the president rather that is it. They've already 106 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: made her the candidate. The machine is trying to make 107 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: her president and hiding her. I think, Clay, I have 108 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: to say, if you and I were advising her on 109 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: this one or advising her campaign, I think hiding her 110 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: is a good strategy for now. I think the more 111 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: people know Kamala, the less they will like her. And 112 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: because it's such a short election cycle that she has 113 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: to work with, it works in her favor. Because you 114 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: can hide somebody for ninety days, and I think they're 115 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: largely going to do that. You can't really hide them. 116 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: For a year. 117 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: Well, you can't hide them on the campaign trail in Iowa, 118 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: New Hampshire, and South Carolina, and voters when they met 119 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris overwhelmingly did not like her. So she is 120 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: now the nominee. They've officially given her the nomination despite 121 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: the fact that no one voted for her to be president, 122 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: and I think they know that she is significantly flawed 123 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: when it comes to basic human interaction when it comes 124 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 3: to communication skills. Remember, she is the least popular vice 125 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: president that has ever existed in any of our lives, 126 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: and somehow they have turned the least popular vice president 127 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: in any of our lives into a at least right now, 128 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: very popular choice. 129 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: Now. 130 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: I do think there's a sugar high associated with this, 131 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: because the primary reason Joe Biden couldn't win didn't have 132 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: anything to do with the fact that he was a 133 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: Democrat or Republican. It was just that people had decided 134 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 3: he was too old to be president and policies didn't 135 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: really matter, and then he confirmed those on June twenty seventh. 136 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: There's a sugar high among Democrats because I think many 137 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: of them had accepted, oh my goodness, we're going to lose. 138 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: And then Kamala Harris is this sort of lightning bolt 139 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: that arrives out of nowhere and puts you the savior 140 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: back into the race. And so they have immediately united 141 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: behind her, just because they now have a little bit 142 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: of giddy optimism that they may be able to beat Trump. 143 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: I think there was a resignation that was setting in 144 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: among Democrats that Trump was gonna win Buck and now 145 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: She is the new hope that is rising up to 146 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: beat the great Satan in their minds Trump. This is 147 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: where Trump has to be more disciplined, because you were 148 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: out for the nabj buck. Every time he goes and 149 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: does a hostile interview, they rip him to shreds. Kamala 150 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: Harris hasn't done an actual hostile interview in her entire 151 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: political career. What benefit do you get at this point 152 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 3: for leaving your camp and going out and fighting battles. 153 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's any well. 154 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: I think that also Trump is putting the legacy of 155 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: his entire political movement on the line in a way 156 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: now against Kamala that it wasn't even against Biden. I think, 157 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: if you have Kamala Harris win this election anyway, you 158 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: know what. 159 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: I can't even psychologically go there right now. 160 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm very confident that Donald Trump is going to pull 161 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: this out. 162 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: I'm not usually I'm the one who's wildly optimistic that 163 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 3: wants to do like a high step into the end zone. 164 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: Over the weekend, as I looked at all the data, 165 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: I am very nervous that we may totally give this 166 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: one away. 167 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna lie. I am. I'm very apprehensive. 168 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: Here's the good news, and we're going to take your 169 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: calls on this one. And I'm wondering if any I'm 170 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: curious if anyone who would describe themselves as a ll 171 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: maybe they wouldn't describe themselves this way, but I would 172 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: describe it this way as a. 173 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: Super Trumper, meaning you knew he was. 174 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: Going to win in that primary in twenty sixteen, and 175 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: you knew that he was going to beat the Muller investigation, 176 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: and you believe still that he won in twenty twenty 177 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: and that they're Shenanigans is what cost him that race? 178 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: Are you worried? 179 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 4: You know? 180 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: That's what that for me? 181 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: Is a super Trumper Like you're in the elite echelon 182 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: of Trump's support. Are you concerned at all about how 183 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: this is going with Kamala or are you still finding 184 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: yourself thinking that Trump is gonna pull this out and 185 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: you don't have any worries about it. I'd be curious 186 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: to hear from some of our people on that specifically, 187 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: so we can open lines up for that eight hundred 188 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: two A two two eight A two, you know, because 189 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: I also think Clay at this stage of the game 190 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: there's they. 191 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: Were brought solo. 192 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: There's a rebound effect, and people have described it as 193 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: a sugar high. 194 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: I see it a little bit differently. 195 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: I think that that expectations had been so dramatically lowered 196 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: for Biden that it's like a springboard right that now it's, 197 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we have this new candidate. Kamala Harris 198 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: is a deeply unimpressive person who is absolutely not qualified 199 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: to be not only president, she wasn't qualified to be 200 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: vice president. 201 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: She wasn't qualified to be a senator. 202 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: In my view, it's not an impressive person at all, 203 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: though there are a lot of dumb senators to be fair, 204 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: but not an impressive person. If she's a to win 205 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: this race, it means the Republicans have to look at 206 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: what the machinery that we have is against the machinery 207 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: that they have, because it means that any Democrat could 208 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: win this race effectively. It means they could have run 209 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: anybody who's got maybe a little bit of you know 210 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: that DEI push to play the identity politics because because Clay, 211 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to speaking, connecting, you know, public speaking, 212 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: connecting with people, authenticity, charm, you know, charisma, leadership, decision making, wisdom, knowledge. 213 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris has none of those things. I know none 214 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: of them. 215 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: So if she can win, what it means is that 216 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: we have a Republican Party. 217 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: Even with the most. 218 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: You know, the most charismatic and the most sort of 219 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: one man army politician we've had since Ronald Reagan, we 220 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: can't win. 221 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: We have a massive rethink. 222 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: So I'm not going there yet because I still think 223 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: Trump is gonna pull out. But this is good because 224 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: you're usualortimistic. I'm out here in an undisclosed location and 225 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: my freedom bunker and Clay was you know, at the helm, 226 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: and I you know, it's it's good we didn't talk 227 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: about this beforehand. I'm confident for Trump, but only if 228 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: the Trump that showed up at that Biden debate, the 229 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: one who is calm and focused and delivers when it counts. 230 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: He's still going to make his jokes. Trump still has 231 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: to be Trump. 232 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: But you know, you need the best version of Trump 233 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: to show up for this last ninety days. 234 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say this when we go to break. 235 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 3: I think since his speech at the RNC, the best 236 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 3: Trump has not been on the campaign trail. I thought 237 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: the first thirty minutes were very good of his speech 238 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: at the RNC. 239 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: I think he needed to land the plane. He didn't. Whatever, 240 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: it's a speech. A lot of people went to bed. 241 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: But I think that from that moment, I would suggest 242 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: to you that the best. 243 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: Trump has not been on the campaign trail. 244 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 3: I thought he ran a fabulous campaign even after the shooting. 245 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: I thought staying down and letting Democrats sort of light 246 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: themselves on fire, letting Biden light himself on fire, I 247 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: thought it was incredibly disciplined Trump. The best version of 248 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 3: Trump has not been on the campaign trail since the 249 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 3: election speech that night. And by the way, that doesn't 250 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: mean that I think that Trump is you know, like 251 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: I'm trying to criticize. I'm just saying, like if you 252 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: were an athlete, if you were watching a season and 253 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: your team didn't play well in two games, doesn't mean 254 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 3: that you're not still a fan of the team. It's 255 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 3: just like, but we got to get buckled in here, 256 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 3: we got to get focused. I don't think the best 257 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: version of Trump has been out there in the public 258 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: for the last sixteen eighteen days. 259 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: Lines are open, let's talk about it coming up here. 260 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: We also have a lot more to look at in 261 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: terms of the state by state polling. Some of the 262 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: clips from Kamala they're circling in from over the weekend. 263 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: You know what, you guys really need to start off 264 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: your Monday. We'll come back at some point here soon 265 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: next next segment or two, Kamala explaining the Internet and clouds. 266 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: Yes, you need. 267 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: You need to hear it because wow, look, there's so 268 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: much going on right now. As you know, I was 269 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: looking at my phone this morning and talking to all 270 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: my friends who follow the markets. 271 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: It's a bloodbath out there on Wall Street. Right, It's rough. 272 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got the dow down over a thousand 273 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: points today and and things are are tough, right, I mean, 274 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: people are worried about where their money is going and 275 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: what's what's going to happen here? What can you do 276 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: about this? 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I'm 307 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 6: not taking its tone. And it's taken this long, if 308 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,479 Speaker 6: you will, to work through the full effects into the economy. 309 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 6: And now people are realizing, the market investors, that things 310 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 6: are slowing down, possibly faster than the FED had anticipated. 311 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 6: And as a result, and you see this jim through 312 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 6: the unemployment numbers, inflation. The hard work on inflation has 313 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 6: been done, but the other side of that scale is 314 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 6: that unemployment's going up. This was entirely predictable, and yet. 315 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: The FED didn't predict it, neither to the economists, neither 316 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: of the experts. In fact, people have been talking about 317 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: how it'll be a very strong year for the market. 318 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: I follow a lot of the talking heads and the 319 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: consensus in the financial markets too, and there weren't many folks. 320 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: I know some of them, I work with some of them, 321 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: but there weren't many folks who really saw this coming. Clay, 322 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, the big discussion has been the soft landing. 323 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: Can the FED engineer a soft landing? Well the answer 324 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: to that is still maybe. But it's kind of like 325 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: when you're on the lane and all of a sudden, 326 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: the stewardesses look really concerned and they like run down 327 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: the aisle and the captain comes. 328 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: On, here's we're you know, we're turbulent. Everybody sitting on everybody. 329 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: You know, when the captain kind of speeds up because 330 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: things are sounding a little scary or feeling a little 331 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: scary out there, and you see the stewardesses run to 332 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: their seats and strap themselves in. You know, we're hearing 333 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: some lightning strikes going on out there in the h 334 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: in the air around us. It's not great right now. 335 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: You know, this is some of the some of the 336 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: serving trays, the food's flying off them. I mean, they 337 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: might still land this plane, but it is. It is 338 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: getting ugly out there, and the Fed has not a 339 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: It looks like it looks like they may have raise 340 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: rates too fast and lowered rates too. 341 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: Slowly, which is remarkable when you think about it. 342 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: Well, it's a mess, I mean, and again this is 343 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 3: why I think the Trump team has to lead with 344 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: the economy. Just think about where we were in January 345 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty one, when Joe Biden took over. We 346 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: were effectively through the COVID hit, which was a disaster like, 347 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: I'm not defending the COVID decision, but we had basically 348 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: come through that even blue cities and blue states, people 349 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 3: were going back to work. Inflation was I believe one 350 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: point four percent, Your mortgage rates were under three percent. 351 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: The stock market had come back substantially. We didn't need 352 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: to do anything other than continue to send people back 353 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: to work. And Joe Biden tried to spend five trillion 354 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 3: dollars and he still ended up spending what is at 355 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 3: one point nine trillion on top of the original trillion. 356 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: They blew it in a monster way. And Kamala, who 357 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 3: seems to have no economic knowledge or policy at all, 358 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: advocated for the five trillion as hall as anyone possibly could. 359 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 3: And that's why we're sitting here right now. Let me lay. 360 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: Out two pathways here and you can tell me what 361 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: you think of this. First off, I want to start 362 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: with this premise, starting with the premise that David Axelrod 363 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: put out on CNN. This has cut ten because I 364 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: think this is where I think this is a reality check. 365 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: I think this is where the race really stands, which 366 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: is Kamala Harris is new to being the nominee, did 367 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: not even go through a bruising primary or primary of 368 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: any kind. 369 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: Correct. 370 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: In fact, couldn't even make it through really the first 371 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: round in her own Democrat primary in twenty twenty. So 372 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: she is untouched by negative ads. Really, she is not 373 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: yet vetted in any meaningful way in the public's eye. 374 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: She has been chosen for these roles, right she was 375 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: chosen to be vice president. Now she has been chosen 376 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: to be president by party elders and the you know 377 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: the proverbial smoke filled rooms, which I guess don't have 378 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: smoke anymore, maybe vaping. So here just spitting facts. Here, 379 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: Here is David Axwrod saying it's still Trump's to lose. 380 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: Play ten. 381 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 7: You know, there's a lot of irrational exuberance on the 382 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 7: side of on the Democratic side of the aisle right now, 383 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 7: because there was despair for some period of time about 384 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 7: what November was going to look like. Now people feel 385 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 7: like there's a chance. But it is absolutely Trump's race 386 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 7: to lose. Right now. He is ahead, and he is 387 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 7: ahead most of the battleground states, they're close, they could 388 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 7: be won by either candidate. I think it's a wide 389 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 7: open race. But Trump has the advantage right now, and 390 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 7: nobody should everybody should be sober about that. On the 391 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 7: Democratic side. 392 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: I agree with this. I think it is Trump's race 393 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: to lose. I think if Trump does his if Trump 394 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: plays his game the way he should, he comes out 395 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: winning this However, I see, this is what I wanted 396 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: to pose to you. The economy is not No one's 397 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: going to argue that things are good in this moment. 398 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: Right The economy is looking really shaky. People are talking recession. 399 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: Goldman Sachs I think is upgraded now twenty five percent 400 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: chance of recession. I mean, all of a sudden, we're 401 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: hearing the R word recession all over again. Is that 402 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: poison for a Democrat candidate because their party is in 403 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: power play? Or is it actually unintended brilliance for the 404 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: Democrats because Biden can get blamed for this by voters 405 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: and Kamala is a Democrat who is a new way 406 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: for them. 407 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? How does the economy 408 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: factor into this election? Because it's going to factor into 409 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: this election. 410 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: I think it comes down to can Trump advance stay 411 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: disciplined enough. On Friday, Buck, I said to me, this 412 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 3: is an EBC election, and I'm going to say this 413 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 3: probably every year going to get sick of it. Everybody's 414 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 3: going to get sick of it. And from now until 415 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 3: election day, economy, border crime, that's all Trump should talk about. 416 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: That's all he should talk about. That's all jd Vance 417 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 3: should talk about. And look, there are a couple of 418 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 3: side notes. Hey, when you got men pretending to be 419 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 3: women beating the craw out of Olympians like that sort 420 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: of cultural thing, can dive into it. My concern is 421 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 3: Trump has gone into the identity politics mud and he 422 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 3: is now writhing around fighting with Kamala Harris over whether 423 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 3: she's Indian, over whether she's black, over who her husband 424 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: slept with, over who she's Look, these are things that 425 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 3: I think are important that you and I can talk about, 426 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: but we're not running for president. I think what independent 427 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 3: voters want is the person who's going to handle the economy, 428 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 3: border and crime. The best that is indisputably Trump. But 429 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 3: if you get into oh, what percentage is Kamala Harris black? 430 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: Or did her husband pay for an abortion from his 431 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 3: nanny with his first wife and that divorce happened, those 432 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 3: things matter. We're going to talk about him on the show. 433 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 3: But if I were advising Trump and this campaign, I 434 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: would say, go back to economy, border crime, almost don't 435 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: touch anything else. I'm concerned gets the blame for it. 436 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: I mean to my initial question, do you I agree? 437 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 3: I agree with that all all you know EBC is 438 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 3: that what you're EBC, EBC. 439 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: Just sum it up EBC all day, every day, EBC. 440 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: But I have to ask, do you think that if 441 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: the economy really does get indisputed right? The Democrats have 442 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: been saying that a weak economy is good. Yeah, you 443 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: can say that a weak economy is good. You can't 444 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: say that a free fall recession, people getting blasted out 445 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: of their jobs and you know, things could get really 446 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: ugly here. Who knows what's going to happen with the 447 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: market where it is? People know that's bad. Does does 448 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: the does the Democrat brand carry over? 449 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: Sucks that? 450 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: Kamala who's also the vice president, I would do It's 451 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: not like she said, It's not like she's a Democrat 452 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: picked out of obscurity or something. 453 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: She's a part of this administration. 454 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,239 Speaker 1: Does she get to blame for this or are they 455 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: able to blame shift it to Biden and say, Kamala, 456 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, is the future and she'll know what to 457 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: do like, what's their point, what's there a pivot point. 458 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 3: My concern, Buck is we're not even having issues based campaign, 459 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: that this is a cult of Trump is Hitler and 460 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: Kamala is a black woman and that's why you should 461 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 3: vote for. I think we have basically emoticonned this erase 462 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 3: right now, and it's like Kamala is smiley face. Trump 463 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: is frownie face. And my concern is the smiley face 464 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: emoticon is going to win. 465 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: This is where I were, you know, where we being 466 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: characters in the matrix, in the politics matrix. This is 467 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: where I feel like we're not necessarily aligned or thinking 468 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: in the same way. I mean, this is like pundits 469 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: in general, right, are people who do this for a living, 470 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: like the political commentator class. I mean, if you're a 471 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 1: guy making eighty grand a year and you live in 472 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: a suburb of a mid size city in Michigan, you 473 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: know you make eighty grand a year, you live you 474 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: live in the outskirts of Lansing. Okay, I still think 475 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: that the fact that everything is really expensive and you 476 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: probably have had a bunch of illegals dumped in your 477 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: state that are showing up in your town looking for 478 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: work all of a sudden, like, I think that still 479 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: matters to you a lot more so, I think to. 480 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 2: Turn in this is the challenge. 481 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: I think that it matters to men, like I think 482 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 3: Trump's going to win men by fifteen, but I think 483 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 3: a lot of women are going to buy into the 484 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: girl power Kamala abortion Trump is a sad, mean guy. 485 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: That's what they're that's their game plan, that's their. 486 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: People that's been telling me that I'm that I'm wrong, 487 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: which I hate. I don't like being wrong. 488 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: That Kamala is more likable than Hillary, and I really 489 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: don't see it that way. But now I'm starting to 490 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: see that I might be in the minority just as 491 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: a general thing, meaning that maybe she gets Because Hillary 492 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: didn't get the girl power bump that she needed in 493 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, obviously, maybe Kamala will get the bump that 494 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 1: she needs. That that is a concern of mind. They 495 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: have gone after jd Vance so hard on this issue 496 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: of the cat lady comment, and it's clearly that has 497 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: been a concerted campaign. That's not just a thing that's 498 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: been getting clicks. This has been the They're trying to 499 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: define the Trump ticket of two white dudes early on 500 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: as kind of anti female and certainly anti minority, but 501 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: that we knew that was going to happen, even when 502 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: Biden was the nominated. They're acting like, well, he's, you know, 503 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: so pro minority. So look, I'm concerned, don't I'm I'm confident, 504 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: or rather, I'm optimistic for Trump. 505 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 2: Confident might be too strong. 506 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: But this is a concerning, concerning moment in time here 507 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: because I think that in some ways we'll know who's 508 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: going to be president based on what happens, you know, 509 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: in the next thirty to forty five days, meaning what 510 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: perception is created now. 511 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: Because early voting starts how soon thirty days? There you go. 512 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 3: So that's buck. I'll tell you when we come back. 513 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: I'll tell you the conversation that I had last night 514 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: right after Game of Throne. I'm trying to the new 515 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 3: House of the Dragon or whatever, which I like, can't 516 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 3: they make it as. 517 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: Good as the original Game of Thrones though, I mean, 518 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: come on, they had the they have the playbook. The 519 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: Original Game of Thrones was amazing television for what it was. 520 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: This is just like, it's it's good. I'm watching it. 521 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: Too, Clay, It's how's the Dragon it's just like the 522 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: be movie version of it. 523 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 2: It's just not as good. 524 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 3: I like it quite a bit. But we'll talk about 525 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 3: this maybe later in the show. But was laying in 526 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 3: bed with my wife and and I was like, I'm like, 527 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: I felt like I was like Rachel Maddow when Trump 528 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 3: was feeling well, doing well. I turned to her and 529 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 3: I said, I think I think Kabla may win. What 530 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 3: do we do if that happens? And I'll tell you 531 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 3: what that conversation was. We also got a bunch of 532 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 3: you who want to weigh in. 533 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: Can I just. 534 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: Also tell you, guys, you know we're gonna have to 535 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: get the womp womp button out for Clay. You know, 536 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: maybe because I've be get some fresh air and sunshine 537 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: out here in the middle of nowhere. I'm doing well 538 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: because Clay is Clay. You're taking us on a trip 539 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: to Bummerville right now. 540 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: I am telling you. What I am seeing has me 541 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 3: very alarmed. And look, I want everybody to get out 542 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 3: and vote as early as possible. Heck, I want you 543 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 3: to vote like Democrats, meaning you know, even if you're dead, 544 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 3: go vote. But man, it's gonna be ah. I just 545 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 3: I think we're headed for a slobber knocker here down 546 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 3: the stretch. 547 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: I do wow, we shall see my friends. 548 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: You know there was another company data breach reported recently, 549 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: with a cyber hacker hacking into the computers of Health Equity. 550 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: They maintain health savings account. You know HSA's a lot 551 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: of you have those. This happened back in the spring, 552 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: but it took until now for the word to get out. 553 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: So the personal information of four point three million people 554 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: might have been taken, including names, social security numbers, addresses, 555 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: phone numbers, and more. It's important to understand how cybercrime 556 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: and identity theft are affecting our lives. Things like this 557 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: breach happened. Company involved didn't want it to happen and 558 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: likely didn't want to notify every one of their four 559 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: point three million customers. 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Find them on the 578 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 8: free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 579 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: Our three Clay and Buck kicks off now. 580 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: In case you didn't know, In case you hadn't heard, 581 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: rough day in the markets, Dow down over nine hundred points, 582 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: NASDAK cratering three percent. 583 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: Markets around the world having a. 584 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: Rough one and people are starting to say, hold on 585 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: a second, you mean that really weak employment picture that 586 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: was talked about on Friday that we found out about 587 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: and the thirty five trillion dollars of debt that we have, 588 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: and the fact that we have a FED that seems 589 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: to be a trillion dollars late and a trillion dollars 590 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: short all the time. 591 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: Not good. Not good. 592 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: This is something that you know, you could look at 593 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: and say has been coming for a long time. 594 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: But we also need. 595 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: To remember the Biden White House said that they had 596 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: fixed it, that the recovery had happened, that things were good, 597 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: things are great. Things aren't feeling so great right now 598 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: for a lot of people. A lot of concern out there, 599 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: a lot of worries about what this market is. 600 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:08,479 Speaker 2: Going to do. 601 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: And that is also something that I think could matter 602 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: in this election that we are in the thick of now. 603 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: I mean we usually August would be a little bit 604 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: of a lull, but in the political cycle, but we 605 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: have the DNC coming up. We have the elect of 606 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: the choice, not the election, the choice of Kamala's VP 607 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: to be announced tomorrow. All indicators are it will be Joshapiro. 608 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: This will be. 609 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: Announced in Philadelphia at a Kamala Harris for President rally. 610 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: Will this help them shore up Pennsylvania? And what does 611 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: this mean going forward? I am We're returning to a 612 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: theme today, a broad theme, which is that I am 613 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: more optimistic at this stage than about Trump's chances. Trump 614 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: isn't defeated. I'm sorry, Clay isn't defeatist at all, but 615 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: he's worried, right fair to say you have concern over 616 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: the numbers. 617 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 3: I have concern over the last two weeks that things 618 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: have gone in Kamala's direction, and with her VP announcement 619 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 3: tomorrow and then what you know is basically going to 620 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 3: be a hagiography coming at the DNC, and the fact 621 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,479 Speaker 3: that Trump has not been I don't think on the 622 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: top of his game in terms of messaging, that has 623 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: turned this into I think Trump would be favored, but 624 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: if I were looking at analyzing this, I'd say it's 625 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 3: like fifty five percent chance Trump wins, forty five percent Kamala. 626 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 3: And when it was Biden, I was like eighty five 627 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 3: ninety percent Trump. I didn't see any way Biden could win. 628 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: So that that's why I'm concerned. The last two weeks 629 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 3: have not helped. 630 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: Now here's how I see it. 631 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: If we can get the American people to pay enough 632 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: attention to who Kamala Harris really is as a leader 633 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: as a politician, this is going to start to skew 634 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: the numbers more and more in Trump's favor. 635 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: And we had mentioned this before. Kamala Harris is. 636 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: In public, I wouldn't say, you know, Biden, they used 637 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: to talk about how he was a gaff machine, and 638 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: they tried to cover this up with Oh, it's just 639 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: it's his Irish charm or oh that's just Joe being Joe, 640 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: and the media was always running excuses. At first it 641 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: was just Biden was kind of a jerk and not 642 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: very smart, and later it was clearly a dementia, so 643 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: he was a not very smart jerk with dementia, and 644 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: they were still telling everybody, Oh, you know, isn't it 645 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: so charming when Joe says something really just obtuse or dumb. 646 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: Kamala has the same situation. This was a flashback. Now 647 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: this is a few years so this is years ago. 648 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: This is not about cognitive decline. This is more about 649 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: political ability, or one's ability to express express words and 650 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: ideas in a way that can connect with an audience. 651 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: Kamala was trying to explain this was going viral over 652 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: the weekend. Cut five here guys that the cloud, as 653 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: in the Internet. Cloud is this thing that exists above us, 654 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: you know, like a serious or a cumulus cloud. 655 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 2: Play it. 656 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 9: No longer are you necessarily keeping those private files in 657 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 9: some file cabinet that's locked in the basement of the house. 658 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 9: It's on your laptop and it's then therefore up here 659 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 9: in this cloud that exists above us. Right, It's no 660 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 9: longer in a physical place. 661 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: The cloud doesn't really exist above us its servers. But 662 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: put that aside for second, Clay Kamala Harris speaks to 663 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: people like she thinks that they are idiots. Yes, And 664 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if she knows that she speaks to 665 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: people that way, But I do think that is a 666 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: political vulnerability. I don't think this is like cheap shot stuff. 667 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: I think this is real. I think that voters, when 668 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: they hear her talking to them, will come away if 669 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: they have any kind of an open mind that are 670 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: being objective with why does this woman speak to me 671 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: like I'm in the first grade. The best example of that, 672 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: I think is when she tried to explain Ukraine and Russia, which, 673 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: if we can grab that, it began with so Russia 674 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: is a big country and Ukraine is a small country. 675 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: Do you remember that analysis of the Ukraine Russia War? 676 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: She said, Buck, And I'm paraphrasing here because I jotted 677 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: it down. It doesn't exist in a physical place. It's 678 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: above us. Above us is a physical place. When she's 679 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: described describing how cloud computing works, she is the best 680 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: example of this that I have seen is she is 681 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: the kid that didn't read the book, that is trying 682 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: to pretend that she read the book. She doesn't do 683 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: the prep work that would allow her to understand things 684 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: on a very significant level. And she's ever about it too, 685 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: as we find that from every person out there listening 686 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: to us right now, at some point in time, did 687 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: not complete the reading in school like you were supposed to, 688 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: and you were floundering a bit trying to explain things. 689 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 3: You may have been reading the cliff notes. You might 690 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 3: have been these days, you might be going online and 691 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 3: reading the Wikipedia page. That's what she does. And to me, 692 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 3: that's scary. Because Biden doesn't have the mental or physical 693 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 3: capacity to be president. 694 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 2: I think almost everybody had agreed. 695 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 3: On that, but Kamala might be easier to manipulate because 696 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 3: I don't think she's going to do the homework that 697 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 3: would allow her to have a rational perspective on the issues. 698 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? 699 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 3: So that's almost scarier on some level because Biden at 700 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 3: least has been in that office for long enough that 701 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 3: I do think there are some things that Joe Biden 702 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 3: believes in now I think he's wrong on a lot 703 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 3: of them. 704 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 2: What does Kamala Harris actually believe? 705 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: Well, this is why there's this storyline that the Democrats 706 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: are pushing of. Oh, Kamala has problems dealing with the left. No, 707 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: she's a California politician. So she's just been pandering the 708 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: leftists her entire career essentially and riding the Dei wave, 709 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: and now she has to appeal the voters who aren't 710 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,720 Speaker 1: a Democrat base, and that's something she's never done before. 711 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: So it's not that she's in conflict with the left. 712 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: It's that her whole career has been a one exercise 713 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: in pandering, one long exercise in pandering to a certain 714 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: group of you know, politically speaking, a certain group of people. 715 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: And now she's trying to expand beyond that. You cannot 716 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: win Pennsylvania, Michigan. You cannot win these states if you 717 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: go on that debate stage for example, and say I 718 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: want a ban fracking, but you also look like a 719 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: total fool if you're gonna after Just remember that was 720 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It wasn't like this was the least the 721 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: thing about the cloud being above us, like it was 722 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: about to rain on us. At least that was in 723 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: twenty ten, So this is a recent thing. It's an 724 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: inexcusably dumb thing to say, and also a reckless thing 725 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: to say. Meaning even if she's smart enough to know 726 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: that banning fracking is disastrous, that she would say that 727 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: to get people to vote for her is the worst 728 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: kind of dendagery, do you know what I mean? 729 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 2: Here's the problem. 730 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 3: Fetterman said it and still got elected in Pennsylvania because 731 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 3: he did the same thing she said. She's doing now, 732 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 3: which is saying, oh, I don't actually believe that anymore. 733 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 3: And that, to me is what they're doing right now. 734 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 3: It's a cleanup on asle Kamala. They're coming around and 735 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 3: just saying, oh, yeah, I said I didn't believe in fracking, 736 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 3: but I'm taking that back now. I said, defund the police, 737 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 3: and I raise money for everybody in Manyapolis who was 738 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 3: burning down the city. But I didn't actually say that, 739 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 3: even though she said it. No, that's a misinformation. That's disinformation. 740 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 3: They're going around and cleaning up all the left wing 741 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 3: policies that she embraced, and there's almost no acknowledgment of 742 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 3: it now here. I said, I'm not optimistic based on 743 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 3: how the last two weeks have gone, and that's true, 744 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 3: that's what the data reflects. I will say A part 745 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 3: of me just comes back to are you make fun 746 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 3: of this? But I think it's a way that I 747 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 3: kind of grew and connect with. Are big ten football 748 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 3: fans really going to vote for Kamala Harris over Donald Trump? 749 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 3: Like those independent fans out there that are big Penn 750 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 3: State fans, that are big Wisconsin fans that are big 751 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 3: University of Michigan fans. 752 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 2: Michigan State two. 753 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 3: You live in a lot of suburban, blue collar areas. 754 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 3: You also the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Philadelphia Eagles, and 755 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 3: maybe some Buffalo bill fans out there, the Browns, the Bengals. 756 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 2: I trust the Lions. 757 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 3: I trust football fans because I think ultimately you're my people. 758 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 3: You're rational. You're not going to argue that your quarterback 759 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 3: is the greatest ever if he sucks. You're not going 760 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 3: to defend a coach if he's not buck. I had 761 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 3: a fun conversation with one of my buddies over the weekend, 762 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 3: and he's in media too, and I said, you know 763 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 3: why I like sports fans because they aren't willing to lie. 764 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 2: Sports fans are. 765 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 3: Unwilling to look ridiculous, by which I mean no one 766 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 3: out there would come out and say the twenty fifth 767 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 3: best quarterback in the NFL is actually the best quarterback 768 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 3: in the NFL, because you would be ashamed to make 769 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 3: that argument. Nancy Pelosi makes the argument about Mount Rushmore, 770 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 3: and that is a shameful argument. There is no it's 771 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 3: equivalent to what someone would say there. And so the 772 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 3: reason why I use this as an analogy is I 773 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 3: think a lot of these guys and gals who are 774 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 3: not paying a lot of attention right now, when it 775 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 3: gets to October and they recognize and they dial in 776 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 3: and they're like, wait a minute, I got Kamala Harris 777 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 3: or I got Donald Trump. They're gonna remember the Trump 778 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 3: economy pre COVID, and they're gonna say, for my family, 779 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 3: I can't vote Kamala. 780 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 2: I feel more. 781 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 3: Confident about that in the big ten than I do 782 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 3: somewhat how Nevada or Arizona or Georgia might vote. And 783 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 3: that's kind of your thesis, although you don't have the 784 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 3: football argument, like in your head, you just don't think 785 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 3: blue collar white guys are gonna say, hey, Kamala is 786 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 3: the choice. 787 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, no way, that's in my mind. That's just not 788 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: gonna happen. And that's why I feel confident about about Trump. 789 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I do think that any hope that that 790 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: Trump was gonna make substantial inroads with the black vote 791 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: is essentially gone. Think that that's not going to happen 792 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: with Kamala on the ticket. I think that, you know, 793 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: because a lot of it is also you know, social 794 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: and cultural pressure to vote a certain way. That yeah, 795 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: the factors into every for everybody in different ways, but 796 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: it'll be a factor certainly within the black community. So 797 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: I think that that's gone. I just think that the 798 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: the you know, white working class voters who are a 799 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 1: huge voting demographic by the numbers, are the determining factor 800 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 1: in those states, and you know, they're they're they're likely 801 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: to be the ones that that go for Trump or 802 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: I see them as going for Trump. I know everyone's 803 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 1: a little scared about the woman situation here for Trump 804 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: right now, I don't know. I don't think any I 805 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: don't think any woman who is going to vote for 806 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: Trump is going to change your mind now that Kama was. 807 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 2: I don't see that. 808 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: I think I think we lost everyone who's upset about 809 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 1: the cat lady thing. From what I can tell, this 810 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: could be wrong, was probably voting for a Democrat. 811 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 2: Anyway. 812 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 3: My concern is, I think there were a lot of 813 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 3: people who would have voted middle of the road or 814 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 3: not shown up. I think Kamala is one of the 815 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 3: bets we have is what will turnout be. I'm actually 816 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 3: more nervous about my turnout will be down. 817 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 2: Arguait, Yeah, I didn't ask you. Hold on, are you 818 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 2: are you real? 819 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: I've even we haven't even re established it's a new election, Clay. 820 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 2: I've got a few things you haven't. Yeah you can, no, no, no, no, 821 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 2: I'm keeping track on these ones. 822 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: We're not having any more, you know, because yes, I 823 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: said it would be Kama left, not Biden, but that 824 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: was later on and we had you know, we already 825 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,919 Speaker 1: have there two outstanding bets right now that we still 826 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: do twenty percent of the black vote, man, mile black vote. 827 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 2: You think you still sticking with that for Trump, I'll 828 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 2: give you that one. 829 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 3: I'm wobbly on that one right now. 830 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 5: You can't. 831 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 3: I gotta really think about it. 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Yeah, it's actually a 872 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 2: good nickname. What's his nickname for him? 873 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: Slop adopoulis right, instead of Stephanopolis, he calls him slop Adopolis. 874 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: I actually because he's sloppy with his facts. Like, I 875 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: actually think that's a pretty. 876 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 2: Good nick name. 877 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: I mean, when the Trump nicknames are good, they're they're 878 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: like they're really good. 879 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 2: You know, when he nails it, he nails it. 880 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: Anyway, things got a little testy over there our our buddy, 881 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: Congressman Donald's from Florida, my home state. He was on 882 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:33,800 Speaker 1: there and and there's this conversation that has been going 883 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: on for a few days now just about whether Kamala 884 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:43,720 Speaker 1: Harris is, you know, leveraging her background in a way 885 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 1: that changes depending. 886 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 2: On the moments or the needs of the moment. 887 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 1: And racial identity her racial identity is is the center 888 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 1: of some And I want to be very clear here, 889 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think this is a patent, you know, 890 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,800 Speaker 1: litigating this or arguing about this or whatever is a 891 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:00,800 Speaker 1: pathway to winning. 892 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 2: I think that this is a. 893 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: Unimportant issue overall. But it was interesting to me. What 894 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 1: was more intering to me was how upset this made 895 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: a guy who wanted to moderate the next debate on 896 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: behalf of journalists everywhere. Listen to how Stephanopoulos and Byron 897 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: Donald's go back and forth on this play three and you. 898 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 2: Just repeated the slur again. 899 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 4: If it doesn't matter, Why do you all keep questioning 900 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 4: her identity? She's always identified as a black woman, She 901 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,959 Speaker 4: is biracial. She has a Jamaican father and Indian mother. 902 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 4: She's always identified as both. Why are you questioning that? 903 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 2: The man is sir? One second? You just did it. 904 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 2: You just did it again of the United States? 905 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 4: Why do you why do you insist on questioning her 906 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 4: racial identity? 907 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 2: You want me to talk. I want you to answer 908 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 2: my question. 909 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 4: So questioning somebody's racial identity, if you're a cop a 910 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 4: couple of minutes is okay. 911 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 2: If it doesn't matter. 912 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 4: I don't understand why you keep on repeating it. Why 913 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 4: the president keeps unrepeating it, Why those introducing the president. 914 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm the one who keeps repeating It's you've done it. 915 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 4: Sure, you've done it. You've done it three times. Every 916 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 4: single answer you gave me, now let me finish that. 917 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 4: Every single answer you gave he repeated. 918 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,720 Speaker 2: The slur, George right, and the question three times. 919 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 4: I responded, And every single time you repeat the slur, 920 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 4: that is exactly my point. 921 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 2: You simply can't say that it's wrong. 922 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,760 Speaker 4: George ap did not say that Kamala Harris is not black. 923 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 4: She is biracial, she is Indian, she is black. You 924 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 4: continue to repeat the fact that you continue to repeat 925 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 4: the slur. I don't understand why you and the president 926 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 4: do it, but it's clear you're not going to say 927 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 4: that it's wrong. I mean, you've now established that for 928 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 4: our audience. 929 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,800 Speaker 1: Can I just say democrat operative posing as journalist George Stephanopolis. 930 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 2: I have never heard him in all the clips. 931 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 1: I don't watch the show, but in all the clips 932 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: that we've seen over the years, so ticked off about something? 933 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 2: Did you see that? I mean really yeah, I watched 934 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 2: you there. I watched it. First of all. I had 935 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 2: two primary takeaways. 936 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 3: One, it's not a slur to question someone's background, like, 937 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 3: I don't understand how you would even classify that as 938 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,399 Speaker 3: a slur what Trump said. And again I agree with you, 939 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 3: I don't think that this is the most fertile terrain 940 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,240 Speaker 3: to go after Kamala Harris on. But what he said 941 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 3: is she tries to be all things to all people. 942 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 3: Some would say that that is an inauthentic characterization. She 943 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,240 Speaker 3: is Indian and she has a father who is black. 944 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that her experience is similar to the 945 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 3: average black person in America. And I think what Trump 946 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 3: actually did is say publicly a conversation that lots of 947 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,320 Speaker 3: black people are having. 948 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 2: And I want you to listen. 949 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 3: I think we have the CNN clip from inside the 950 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 3: barbershop in Pennsylvania where they have a guy in there, 951 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:57,839 Speaker 3: the CNN reporter who is asking the people in the barbershop, Hey, 952 00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:58,959 Speaker 3: is Kamala Harris black? 953 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 2: Do we have that? Listen to the cut, right, is 954 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 2: Ita Kamala Black? Guess another. I'm gonna let her speak 955 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 2: on that. But to me, no, Oh, it's Gamla Black. 956 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 7: Yes, another I share that same view. 957 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:12,839 Speaker 2: Wow, it's Kamla Black. 958 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 6: Yes, No, I heard she would I heard she had 959 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,240 Speaker 6: half black game, half Asian. 960 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 3: Okay, So this is I think a conversation that is 961 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 3: going on. Look, and I've said this for a long time. 962 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris is married to a white Jewish guy, who, 963 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 3: by the way. 964 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,240 Speaker 2: Apparently has a fondness for Nanni's apparently. 965 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 3: Uh And maybe we'll talk about this a little bit 966 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 3: tomorrow because I do think it kind of goes to 967 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 3: his fit. Apparently got his nanny pregnant when he had 968 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 3: a ten year old and a five year old in 969 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 3: the house. Some might say that's a bit weird, if 970 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 3: you want to call like they've been going after jd 971 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 3: Vance for saying that cat ladies without kids. I haven't 972 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,720 Speaker 3: seen Kamala's husband attacked as much for getting a nanny 973 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 3: pro but when I look at Kamalin, I've said this 974 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 3: for some time. Barack Obama connected well with the Black 975 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 3: American community because he married Michelle and he had two kids, 976 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 3: and a lot of black families in America could look 977 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 3: at Barack and Michelle Obama and say that is an 978 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 3: aspirational version of what we would like to have a 979 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 3: couple of kids, highly successful parents. Families matter a lot 980 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 3: in politics. Kamala Harris has no children of her own. 981 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 3: She didn't get married till she was forty nine. She 982 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 3: married a white Jewish lawyer from la and she in 983 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 3: general has appeared to be picking her partners based on 984 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,800 Speaker 3: their ability to rise her up in the political arena. 985 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 3: She started when her twenty sleeping with a sixty year 986 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,280 Speaker 3: old man who gave her two jobs tallying four hundred 987 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 3: thousand dollars. And now we find out that her husband 988 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 3: got divorced because he got his nanny pregnant when he 989 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 3: had a ten year old and a five year old 990 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:08,800 Speaker 3: living in the house. 991 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 2: I would submit to. 992 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 3: You that Kamala Harris and Doug what's his name Imhoff, 993 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 3: her husband, do not look very much like the average 994 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 3: black family in America. No kids of Kamala's own, and 995 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 3: she married a white Jewish guy. I think there is 996 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 3: a lot of identity conversations going on because now Kamala 997 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 3: wants to show up and say, if you're black, you 998 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,319 Speaker 3: should be voting for me. 999 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, she's trying to argue this is 1000 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 1: where it's introduced in the conversation in a way where 1001 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 1: it becomes something that people are going to want to address, 1002 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: which is Kamala. Kamala's appeal is I am a part 1003 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: of it, is I am a black woman, Therefore I 1004 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 1: understand the issues of the black community. 1005 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 2: More. 1006 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: Black voters can trust me more because of that shared experience. 1007 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: And there are some black people as well as other 1008 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 1: people who are saying, hold on a second, and that's all. 1009 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: That's all this, And it's just interesting that George Dephanopolis 1010 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: would get so surly with Byron Donald's a black man 1011 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: and lecture him about Kamala Harris and her you know, 1012 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: blackness visa vi or you know, the the black authenticity 1013 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 1: that she has when it comes to the black community. 1014 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 3: Now, the question I don't know the answer to. And 1015 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 3: I actually took some calls on this Thursday and Friday 1016 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 3: from black listeners because I was curious how it plays 1017 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 3: in that community. Buck, You and I are white guys. 1018 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris's race has nothing to do with whether I 1019 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 3: personally am going to vote for her or not. I 1020 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,879 Speaker 3: think she's wrong on the economy, I think she's wrong 1021 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 3: on the border, I think she's wrong on crime, and 1022 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 3: I think she will be a disastrous president. For the 1023 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 3: three things that I care about the most, those are 1024 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 3: the three things that I care about the most personally. 1025 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 3: You know, if Tim Scott had won the Republican primary, 1026 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 3: we'd be sitting here talking about how we are all 1027 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 3: in on, you know, for Jim Scott, and you know, 1028 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 3: this is the way Republicans actually think we just want 1029 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 3: the best people in these jobs, and we want the 1030 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 3: best leadership we can possibly get. It's not about checking boxes. 1031 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 3: It's not about the superficiality of someone is more worthy 1032 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 3: or less worthy than an immutable characteristic or because of 1033 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 3: an immutable characteristic. It's just assessing them as we look 1034 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 3: at everybody as an individual human being. The Left us 1035 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 3: them as members of groups, and some groups need to 1036 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 3: be advanced. That's how they And so the question I 1037 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 3: have is how is this And I don't think there's 1038 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 3: an easy answer. How does this play in the black community? 1039 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 3: And is Trump making that conversation more or less likely 1040 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 3: to occur in the black community. We had a caller, 1041 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 3: I think on Friday Buck who called in I think 1042 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 3: it was a black guy from Virginia, and he said, 1043 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,919 Speaker 3: this is why Byron Donald's as a VP. 1044 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,760 Speaker 2: He could have made this argument because he's a black. 1045 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 3: Guy, and he could say, Hey, the black community's having 1046 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 3: this conversation about who's going to advance our cause is 1047 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 3: the best? Should we do identity politics because Mala Harris 1048 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 3: claims that she's a black woman, or should we pick 1049 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 3: the person who's going to address the economic border and 1050 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 3: crime issues, and that maybe that conversation plays differently inside 1051 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 3: of the black community if Trump had on his ticket 1052 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 3: a vice president who was black. I'm open to that idea. 1053 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 3: I thought it was an interesting one. My concern is 1054 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 3: when Trump spends time on this, this is what Kamala 1055 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 3: wants to talk about. She wants to talk about being 1056 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 3: a woman and being black. She wants to play the 1057 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 3: identity politics card. Are we going too much into that 1058 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 3: arena and fighting a battle on her terms when they're 1059 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 3: way more fertile areas to be attacking her on. 1060 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 2: I think so. 1061 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean even that it's convenient timing in some ways 1062 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,440 Speaker 1: for our side that there's a vote under a ballot 1063 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 1: initiative underway in California this fall to repeal the ballot initiative, 1064 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:56,439 Speaker 1: or really the Just Crime Overhaul, effectively legalizing a lot 1065 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 1: of crime that Kamala Harris was a huge advocate for 1066 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,239 Speaker 1: when Sue was staated attorney general. And you know, these 1067 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 1: are things that these are things that reasonable intelligent people 1068 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 1: making decisions based upon past record and likely future performance 1069 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 1: of a leader, A person given power to execute certain 1070 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 1: functions in a role. They can see that and say 1071 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris makes horrible decisions. 1072 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 2: This is what I've said before. 1073 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 1: She's a Democrat who lacks wisdom, knowledge, insight, track record 1074 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,800 Speaker 1: you know, of success, So she has a track record 1075 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 1: is not a good one. She is effectively a vessel 1076 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 1: now for the Democrat machine to create a narrative of 1077 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: a person who does not really exist. And I understand 1078 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 1: they may be able to do that successfully. I have 1079 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 1: no I have no illusions that this isn't a possibility 1080 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 1: for them. I just think that the more that can 1081 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,720 Speaker 1: be exposed, the better Trump and also the down ballot 1082 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 1: chances are. But I mean, if they can elect It's 1083 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 1: like I said about Fetterman. If they can Electkama, they 1084 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: can get anybody elected. 1085 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now that's what scared me. That's what I was 1086 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 2: thinking about last night as I was getting ready for bed. 1087 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,359 Speaker 3: I mean, we made fun of what how is Rachel 1088 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 3: Maddow going to react if Trump wins? Can you imagine 1089 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 3: if Kamala wins, we have to come in a couple 1090 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,879 Speaker 3: of days after the election and be like, let's get 1091 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 3: ready for Kamala Harris until twenty twenty nine. 1092 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. 1093 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,439 Speaker 1: I can't I can't even psychologically go there. 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