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Speaker 1: on the show. He is the one and only Albert Breer,

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Speaker 1: senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB. You

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Speaker 1: can get him on x at Albert Breer and he

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Speaker 1: joins us. Now, Abe, what's happening, good morning?

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's up guys?

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Speaker 4: Ab Yeah, a little bit more excited.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, you normally you.

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Speaker 5: Guys are playing like poison for me when I come.

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Speaker 6: In and like that was like, I don't know, yeah

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Speaker 6: me a type juff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Harvey danger. That was Brady's U, Brady's pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't yeah at a little underwhelming. I'm with you,

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Speaker 1: with you sorry, guys, So let me uh, let me

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Speaker 1: ask you Albert, because we were talking about the benching

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Speaker 1: of Tuatakoba Low and he's the third quarterback and quin

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Speaker 1: read on it, was. This move makes me think more

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Speaker 1: so than before that Mike McDaniel has at least some

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Speaker 1: understanding that he's going to be back next year, because

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Speaker 1: if he was coaching for his job down the stretch,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how Tua would be the third best

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Speaker 1: everything that comes along with it, this just doesn't feel

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can understand your logic on that. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I still don't know that a final decision has.

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Speaker 6: Been made on Mike McDaniels.

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Speaker 3: Fay, and I've sent to see.

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Speaker 5: Guys for two months.

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Speaker 6: Like, I think the barometer all along has been that

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Speaker 3: Coming out of the season too.

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Speaker 6: You know, can you reignite like that team under Mike

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Speaker 6: get Like last week notwithstanding and you know, obviously didn't

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Speaker 3: They wanted in Pittsburgh, but like outside of that.

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Speaker 6: They played really well since they fired their general manager,

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Speaker 6: Chris Career on Halloween, and you know, I think that

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Speaker 6: Roll over and die and he's going to be okay,

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Speaker 6: I think you already know what you've gotten to.

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Speaker 6: And I don't think anybody doubts, like he's going to

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Speaker 6: But again, knowing who Mahomes is.

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Speaker 5: I would you know, I think a lot of people

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Speaker 3: Have been on him beating the clock.

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Speaker 1: ex at Albert Breer, What do you make of Joe

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Speaker 1: burrows comments last week? This week? It just we were

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Speaker 1: kind of kicking this around earlier. It's it's kind of like,

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Speaker 1: and they'd wait for everybody to ask what's wrong, like

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Speaker 1: this whole? You know, if you leave stuff open ended

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Speaker 1: and the media is going to run wild with it

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Speaker 5: I think he's just honest, you know, Like I I

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Speaker 6: It's much more than that. Like I've dealt with him

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Speaker 3: Like I think he's I think he's honest. I think

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Speaker 6: And you know, I think in a lot of these situations,

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Speaker 3: And I and I think that's fair.

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Speaker 6: Look like he's been in the league six years. He's

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Speaker 3: He wants to be the guy who changes it.

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Speaker 6: He wants to be the guy who, you know, makes

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Speaker 6: That said, I mean, you know it, could he eventually

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's there yet. And I think if.

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Speaker 6: I'm somebody in the Bengals organization and a position of power.

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Speaker 6: My radar has to be up for it twenty four

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Speaker 5: So I think there are some moving parts there, but

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Speaker 5: I don't think he's at the.

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Speaker 3: Point where he's gonna elbow his way out quite yet.

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Speaker 4: The Steelers, some way, somehow find a way to always

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Baltimore. Lamar Jackson missed another Wednesday practice. I

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Speaker 1: Right. It's just like, and I know this season has

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Speaker 3: A staff and new owners just going to play into this.

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Speaker 3: Even you know, like this is you. You you have.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, I think they you see.

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Speaker 5: You know, and certainly, you know, I think there are.

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Speaker 1: Alberbrea with us year on Fox Sports Radio, What the

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Speaker 1: hell is going on with Brandon Ayuk? Like what what

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Speaker 3: I'd just be hanging out player lounge.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd be able to I'd be crushing everybody.

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Speaker 4: They always say when you're injured, you're a ghost in

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Speaker 4: even if you're an encouraging person like oh you hey,

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Speaker 4: really paying too much attention to you. But in this

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Speaker 4: in this situation, yes, I'm with you. I'm not doing

444
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Speaker 4: anything that that has me being talked about outside of

445
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Speaker 4: the dude does everything he's asked to do, does what

446
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Speaker 4: he's supposed to do, and you.

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Speaker 1: Know, whatever's going to happen to you. Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. So like that's that that's the that's the weird.

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Speaker 6: Thing about this whole thing to me. And you know

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Speaker 6: it's strange too because they they had like they had

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Speaker 6: they had like pretty pretty decent offers on the table

452
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Speaker 6: from Pittsburgh and New England to trade for him last

453
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Speaker 6: year when the contract negotiation went the wrong way. And

454
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Speaker 6: that organization I think generally has been really good as

455
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Speaker 6: far as like figuring out who to pay, how to

456
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Speaker 6: pay them. You know, they've obviously done a great job

457
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Speaker 6: identifying talent and developing talent and all that different stuff there.

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Speaker 3: They get a lot of things right, you know.

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Speaker 6: But this one, this one's interesting because it's not like

460
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Speaker 6: this is a free agent that you struck out on.

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Speaker 6: This is a guy you had in your building, you

462
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Speaker 6: know what I mean, Like, and you made the conscious

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Speaker 6: decision after four years to pay him, and you you know,

464
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Speaker 6: you turned away like really really good trade offers for him,

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Speaker 6: and you know, like now this is happening less than

466
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Speaker 6: the less than two years later. You know, it's it's

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Speaker 6: a weird situation.

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Speaker 5: I think it goes the saying that he'll be on

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Speaker 5: some other.

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Speaker 6: Team in twenty twenty six and what that looks like

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Speaker 6: and how they get there. I'm not sure whether they

472
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Speaker 6: can trade them, Like I think it'd be difficult to

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Speaker 6: trade that contract now.

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Speaker 1: So he is, he is healthy enough to play, He's

475
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Speaker 1: just not showing up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, like like I don't I don't know

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Speaker 6: exactly where his health is, but I but I can

478
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Speaker 6: tell you this, like for a fact, like they thought

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Speaker 6: like okay, like and I'm talking like a few months ago,

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Speaker 6: like their target was like week nine, week ten, week eleven,

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Speaker 6: somewhere in there, that that.

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Speaker 3: That was when he was going to be back on

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Speaker 3: the team, but back in the roster.

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Speaker 6: And if you just look at the designation they gave him,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like, I mean, the things

486
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Speaker 6: they did were in preparation to have him back for

487
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Speaker 6: the back half of the season. And obviously that that

488
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Speaker 6: hasn't happened.

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Speaker 5: And it's not like this is a team that's not.

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Speaker 3: Winning or couldn't use him.

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Speaker 6: You know, they've had a ton of injuries, like at

492
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Speaker 6: the receiver.

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Speaker 5: Position early in the year they were without Kittle.

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Speaker 6: They you know like they didn't they They've had Pearce.

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Speaker 3: All in and out of the lineup. They've had to

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 6: Go back and get different guys. And Kendrick Bourne was

498
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Speaker 6: playing like a major role in the team for a

499
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Speaker 6: while there. So like, I it's not like they don't

500
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Speaker 6: need them.

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Speaker 5: It's not like they're not contending, you know, but you.

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Speaker 6: Know, obviously that relationship is prayed to a point where

503
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Speaker 6: it looks like it's it's well.

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Speaker 3: Beyond the point of no return.

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Speaker 1: It like it just it kind of feels like the

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Speaker 1: it almost feels like the Trey Lance, the the trading

507
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Speaker 1: of the picks to move up and take Trey Lance,

508
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Speaker 1: and you know, it was almost like one of the

509
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Speaker 1: reports was that, you know, Kyle Shanahan wanted Mac Jones,

510
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Speaker 1: it was John Lynch who wanted Trey Lance. And this

511
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Speaker 1: feels like it was John. It was John Lynch who

512
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Speaker 1: wanted to resign. You can give him that deal. And

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shannan was kind of like, I don't know, man,

514
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Speaker 1: like it just it feels like Kyle Shannan's not been

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Speaker 1: on board with this from the jump.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Kyle really liked that you as a player, Like

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Speaker 6: I know that like I you know, I.

518
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Speaker 5: Think that there's he's always been.

519
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Speaker 6: A little bit of a different guy, you know, Like,

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Speaker 6: so you manage that as long as he's producing for you.

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Speaker 3: The I'm with you the.

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Speaker 5: Like, I think it kind of like got to the.

523
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Speaker 6: Point maybe it's it's gotten to the point where it

524
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Speaker 6: went from tolerable to feed up.

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Speaker 5: If that makes sense, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: Like, you know, I think they've they've always been maybe

527
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Speaker 6: like dealing with a little bit extra there.

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Speaker 3: And you know, but again.

529
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Speaker 5: Like he's a guy who, like, if you talk about him.

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Speaker 6: As a player, you know who he is, Like he's

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Speaker 6: a really good fit for what they want to do.

532
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Speaker 6: And you know, when he's been at his best, he's

533
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Speaker 6: been really productive for them, you know, so it'll be

534
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Speaker 6: interesting to see what happens with him.

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Speaker 5: You know, have season.

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Speaker 6: But they're at ten and four right now. It's pretty

537
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Speaker 6: amazing when you consider they you know, went a stretch

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Speaker 6: without their quarterback.

539
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Speaker 3: They want to stretch without Kittle.

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Speaker 6: They've lost Fred Warner and Nick Bosa for the year.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they've just had like brutal injury luck and

542
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Speaker 6: that's on top of this whole situation, and somehow they're

543
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Speaker 6: ten and four, and it looks like they're headed for

544
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Speaker 6: the playoffs. And you know, we got that big NFC

545
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Speaker 6: West game tonight, and like I I think a lot

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Speaker 6: of people are forgetting that the Niners are sitting there

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Speaker 6: one game behind those two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a really good year. Get them on

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Speaker 1: ex at Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist

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Speaker 1: at the MMQB, and he joins us every single Thursday.

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Speaker 1: AB thanks as always. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: You guys got the Hurricanes or Aggis on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I'm leading to Miami, you know what, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: to Miami.

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Speaker 3: Just be going to Miami too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I want to see just tradition. I'd

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Speaker 1: like to see Miami, you know, making make another deep

558
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Speaker 1: run and go deep in.

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Speaker 5: The Miami Ohio statement in the Cotton Bowl.

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Speaker 6: Then that'd be good.

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Speaker 4: I think A and m is going to thump Miami.

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Speaker 1: Jeez you do yeah, Okay, okay, sticks excep there it is.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the pick. I mean. Meanwhile, you and you

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Speaker 1: and the Buck as you sit back and get ready

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Speaker 1: to win another yeah.

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Speaker 6: And hopefully hopefully hopefully, well, hey Mary, we don't talk

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Speaker 6: next week.

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Speaker 1: The first college football playoff game Friday, Alabama Oklahoma. So

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be uh, that's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks are a point and a half favorite. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of the best two teams in the NFC. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: based on the fact that not only is an important

662
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Speaker 1: game for the team, but also for him because he's

663
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: had some low moments against the Rams, especially recently, Like

664
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Speaker 1: you know the game earlier this year, you know, Seattle

665
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: was was down big, still had an opportunity to win

666
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: that game, but missed a field goal late. Like it

667
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Speaker 1: Just so, this is shaping up to be a really

668
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Speaker 1: good game. Puka Nakua, he was on Aiden Ross's stream,

669
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: and there's some stuff out there that maybe he was,

670
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, doing a celebration that's like an anti Semitic celebration,

671
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: like that was sort of the spell. Really it's going on. Yeah,

672
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: there's that out there. I don't I'm not well versed enough.

673
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: Yeah I won't either, but at least you know, just

674
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: it's part of the story that's making the rounds of

675
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: some people. In my y, not mine either, But we

676
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: can mow.

677
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 4: This one because Phoka Nakua mowed the hell out of

678
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: a law that I need to mob.

679
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you will mess with another one. He's saying

680
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: that NFL officials that they they want some of that shine.

681
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen, because there's just some of the rules,

682
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: aren't that.

683
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 4: Like, these guys want to be These guys are lawyers

684
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 4: and relative they want to be on TV too, brothers

685
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 4: like the game, you don't think he's.

686
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: Touching his friends and.

687
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 5: The group chat like yo, you guys just saw they Sunday.

688
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: Night football like that. That wasn't p I like what

689
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: I called it was. Seriously. I mean, these guys are

690
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: noble human beings too.

691
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: So that's such an immature conversation. I mean, whether it's

692
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: true or not, I don't care. I don't really care,

693
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 4: because I mean, a referee is a referee, Like you're

694
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 4: always going to have built in personalities that are exposed,

695
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: and those are referees, you know, and it's usually the

696
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 4: white hat that that gets that type of attension. But

697
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 4: who cares like that? That's a corny It's a corny conversation.

698
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 4: It's a corny conversation. It's also like, bro, we're browing

699
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 4: out right now. Let me tell you that like these lawyers,

700
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 4: they want to be seen. They're in their groups as

701
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 4: you know they are, Joe. It's like they're like, look, man,

702
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 4: check me out on Sunday night, but we got a

703
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 4: Thursday night.

704
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 6: Gay.

705
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 4: Look watch, I'm gonna throw up. I'm gonna throw up

706
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 4: our set when we out there, You're gonna see me

707
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 4: make a And.

708
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: I would agree with you. It's a it's a cornball conversation.

709
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: Is but you know, the NFL is not gonna be

710
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: happy about this, you know, because I don't know if

711
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Well okay, but if you have

712
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: a player saying officials are the worst. They're just making

713
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: calls so they can get on TV. And with the

714
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: you know, gambling and everything that's been infused into the league,

715
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: like the NFL is probably looking at this going eight.

716
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: The last thing we want is for people to think

717
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: this isn't on the up and up, Like we don't

718
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: need any more of this crap. We don't need any

719
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 1: anybody else, you know, leaving leaving it open to you know,

720
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: the possibility that this stuff's not on the up and up.

721
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: We see what's happened in the NBA. We don't want

722
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: that to happen here. So I don't know if this

723
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: results in him getting fined.

724
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think he was. I don't

725
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 4: think what he was saying was coherent enough for it

726
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 4: to be of consequence.

727
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that?

728
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 4: Like it was just like you just you're you're poking

729
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 4: fun at the referees. There was no real substance to

730
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 4: what he was saying, you know, there was no real

731
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 4: like uh like valid information connected to it. Like it

732
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 4: wasn't like he was whistleblowing or anything like that. He

733
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 4: was just stating a bro a bro opinion, like bro,

734
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 4: they just want to be seen. Like it's like when

735
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 4: you're talking about like somebody you know, like oh, man,

736
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 4: isn't he a worse Like yeah, man, like god Lee,

737
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 4: like Kenny just wash and brushes teeth like I mean, gosh,

738
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 4: he stinks Like I almost feel like he wants us

739
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 4: to smell like he. All they were doing was like

740
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: just like Cornie Capp and that's really all it was.

741
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 4: It wasn't like he was like look, man, I go

742
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 4: out there, I get held on every play.

743
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't.

744
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 4: I'm not able to run my routes the way I

745
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 4: need to run my routes. I'm at the top of

746
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 4: my route. They're grabbing me, they're holding me. I can't

747
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 4: get to the ball the way I.

748
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: Need to get to the ball.

749
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 4: And it's all because these schmucks are out here not

750
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 4: making the proper calls. They're the worst. Like he didn't

751
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 4: like directly cite things in his little rant, So I

752
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 4: don't see it being of any consequence. But it will

753
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 4: be fun to watch if they give him PI calls

754
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 4: or not. It will be fun to watch to see

755
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 4: if they allow you know, cause if I'm if, if

756
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 4: I'm the other side, if I'm Seattle, I'm coming into

757
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 4: the game aggressive against Pook and the cool I'm not

758
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 4: trying to be cooked.

759
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to be the hook and the key

760
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: a zebra. They if you know, listen, just see you know,

761
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: I expect you guys.

762
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 4: If you're out here for clout, you clout chasing man

763
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 4: him right here, i'ma be right there like before the

764
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 4: snot him right here, mister referee. You see hook in

765
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 4: the Coolah, Yeah, I call him hook in the cool

766
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 4: like that yeah, yeah, yeah, and when he cooking.

767
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: You you know you gotta put that. Yeah, yeah, I might,

768
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: I might. I might have one.

769
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 4: While I watch him play tonight little hook in the

770
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 4: cool plus. You dig what I'm saying? What's the plus?

771
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: Oh it's plus, is there?

772
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 6: Well?

773
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a plus one in there.

774
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah plus.

775
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: That's ok.

776
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 4: It's a bad man majama that lands down on that

777
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 4: sha for.

778
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: People that don't know there's you know many who go

779
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: to hookah bars bars got one at his house. Yeah,

780
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: you get it down.

781
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't go hookah hookah light. You go hookah

782
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 4: light at them hookah bars. You get it at the

783
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 4: crib by l a spot. You gotta get hookah plus.

784
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 4: And there's no tobacco, and yes there is there a tobacco. Yeah,

785
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 4: just flavored tobacco.

786
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: Flavor shesha.

787
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, it's flavor flavored tobacco. But when you go

788
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 4: hookah hookah plus, that's flavored tobacco plus flavored.

789
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: With the green water. Yeah, bruh, come on, move, come

790
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: on with you. You're going to call them green as

791
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: it or what?

792
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, I want it to. Yeah, I was

793
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 4: thinking about it.

794
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: Lorena ruined it for you. Yeah, she did put the

795
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: pressure out.

796
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 8: I have my outfit picked out on everything.

797
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: Haven't you been to call them a couple of times?

798
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: You liked it?

799
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 4: You went with Coop, didn't you? Yes?

800
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: Yees? Among other people huh yes? What was it like?

801
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: Did you like it?

802
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 6: Yeah?

803
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: Was it like the sphere?

804
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 8: I haven't been in the sphere? You said that was

805
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 8: really cool though, But that's the same type of idea.

806
00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: That did right there.

807
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: Man. First of all, I thought I was in Epicot Center, right,

808
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 4: you've ever been in It's like everything's wide open, and

809
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 4: it like it feels like very industrial and cold, like

810
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 4: you're in space. That's how it felt going up to

811
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 4: the theater. Then you walk into theater. Oh god, I

812
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 4: have like height, like like like elevation issues, like I

813
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 4: lose my I lose my balance when I'm high because

814
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 4: I'm super super afraid of heights, so I started losing

815
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 4: my balance. You come into the arena the sphere, and

816
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 4: is there more than one? Or is it only one?

817
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: Only one sphere?

818
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 6: Right now?

819
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 4: Yeah? You know I'm saying is there more than one?

820
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: Like like cosm?

821
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: No? No, no, is there more than there's more than one?

822
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 4: Cosm? There's one in Texas. I'm saying, is there more

823
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 4: than one theater like that you can walk into?

824
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know.

825
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 4: I think maybe it's only one. Maybe it's only one.

826
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 4: It's one big one, yeah, just one biggest Yeah.

827
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something.

828
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 4: Man, that thing was over your head, Like it was

829
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 4: over your head. So you're watching the movie in front

830
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 4: of you, right, but then the movie expands. Once they

831
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 4: expand unto you watching the movie, it's the whole thing.

832
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 4: It's all over top of you. So you're looking up

833
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 4: and literally and at certain points in the movie, they

834
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 4: would drop things like you know they had like the

835
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: limited apples. They dropped the apples out of out of

836
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 4: the ceiling and you got to catch them and stuff

837
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 4: like that, which I think is cool. You can't buy

838
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 4: the apples, they're just dropped during the show. You got

839
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 4: to catch an apple. I had to rough an old man.

840
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: Did you get I roughed him.

841
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 4: I had to be I had to be my baby girls.

842
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 4: I had to be my baby girl's hero. I hit

843
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 4: the dude on I hit the dude on the shoulder.

844
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 4: It was like, hey, old man, let me get that

845
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: apple off you. You don't need that thing. He looked

846
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 4: at me. I was like, I need that apple. He

847
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 4: gave it to me too. I'm come to find out.

848
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 4: Come to find out, there was an apple right under me.

849
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: There was an apple right under me. Didn't see it

850
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 4: because we're in the movies. So I was able to

851
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 4: give him the apple back. But the sphere is cold banged,

852
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, the cosm is like that, that's crazy.

853
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: The UFC event they had did it? UFC note chab,

854
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: you're at the sphere b unbelievable. I would go see

855
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: an event there. Yeah, like that. I would go see it,

856
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: like a live sporting event at that place. Really cool. Crazy.

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Speaker 8: bikes over one hundred e bikes tweet Nice.

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Speaker 1: Good for him. Why don't they do that for us?

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Speaker 8: I don't want some e bikes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll get the strain that saved me so much

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Speaker 4: Knee bike like three grand Let's save you so much money.

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Speaker 4: Where are you driving an e bike too?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Can I take it on the freeway?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? What's top speed on an e bike?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Probably like forty forty five maybe.

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Speaker 1: Hot speed, top price? What do we got, Patrick? You

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Speaker 1: don't need to do that. You don't need to go

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Speaker 1: get wherever I can the fastest. I'll ride it like

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Speaker 4: I'll have you want to get on an e bike

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Speaker 4: and go eighty miles per hour. God bless good night

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Speaker 4: at exactly what you deserve.

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