1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian. But you've always got to think he can 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: fix it. You can't think he can't fix it. If 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: you think you can't fix it, you won't. If you 4 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: think you can fix it, you want a coat, rough 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: floor and window bullet hold the door to the car, 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Indoor jam connector of a nine r V. 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Pin six is a yellow red wire. Pin seven is 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: a yellow red wire. Do you think it's possible you 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: could come up with something different than two similar wires 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: in the same connectors, side by side on the same vehicle. 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: A world, Welcome to the radio home of Ron Andanian 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 14 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage orders are open, 16 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls at A 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: five five six and now he running. Hey, come on in, 18 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: sit down, running any in. The car Doctor at your 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: service at A five five five zero nine nine zero 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: zero here to talk to you about your automotive problems, 21 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: whatever you've got going on, fender to fender and door 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: to door. As I like to say as we roll 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: out across this great country of ours on the syndicated 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: radio program I Am Here. Also on podcast, you can 25 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: get out the Car Doctors Show dot com, get out 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: to iTunes, I Heart and tune in and pick up 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: podcasts of this radio show. Subscribe, download, do whatever your 28 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: heart desires, and bring us with you wherever you want 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: to go. Just keep in mind the Car Doctors here 30 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: for you. So if you have a question, if you 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: have a problem, eight five five five zero nine zero 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: zero is the phone number that you want to get 33 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: in on and we can have that conversation. I think, well, 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, and I said to Tom and Tony before 35 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: the show today, I said, wouldn't it be great if 36 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: there was a way that I could express myself on 37 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: air the way I feel during the course of the 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: shop And and then we increased the delay time. Yes, absolutely, 39 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: because we were we we we are a family broadcasting 40 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: station and we couldn't say all those words. But it 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: made me think of this. I said, maybe this isn't 42 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: open and a conversation and a monologue to have with 43 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: the listening audience. Did you ever notice in Star Trek 44 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: every time they visited vulcan you know where Mr Spock 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: lived and uh do tuvak from a voyager. You never 46 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: see cars on Vulcan. Do you ever notice that? And 47 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: they claim to be this big advanced race and you 48 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: know all this technology. I think the reason there's no 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: cars on Vulcan is because there's no emotion on Vulcan. 50 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: Because emotion is a key essential ingredient and not just 51 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: operating a vehicle who hasn't given the single digit salute 52 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: at one point or another in their career of automotive prognostication, 53 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: but it's also part of the repair process. The Nile 54 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: is a very strong on emotion and it confuses the 55 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: repair process. A tale of four batteries. It was a 56 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: cold Thursday morning this past week in the shop at 57 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: our automotive. All four batteries failed, all the same, but 58 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: all the stories just a little bit different. Two thousand 59 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: five on the pilot three year old battery dropped dead 60 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: with no warning. Customer got it, I think, probably the 61 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: most balanced and normal customer in the shop that day. 62 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: She understood the failure, things go wrong, brought it in, waited, 63 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: we put a battery in it on her way, no complications, 64 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: no other real emotion, other than oh, well, my battery died. 65 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: Two thousand one Jeep battery died five years old, twenty 66 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: minutes on the phone, explaining the battery died. It's old. Yeah, 67 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: but maybe there's a bigger problem. Maybe you need to 68 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: let me take a look at and diagnose the problem 69 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: and see what's going on before we start to panic 70 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: and think about all the other things that it could be. 71 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: You can't live your life by if. Remember apocalypse now. 72 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: If is the middle word in life that doesn't apply 73 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: to order repair. Tonda Accord battery died just about four 74 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,839 Speaker 1: years old. It's been fifteen minutes on the phone. Why 75 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: isn't this under warranty. I don't know. I didn't design it, 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: drive it by it, or break it. I'm just gonna 77 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: be here to fix it. The battery died. Things break, 78 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: denial of what could be wrong, and just accepting responsibility. 79 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: Two thousand seven. Toyota Camera. I love this one, original battery. 80 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: You want me to say that again? Two thousand seven, 81 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: Toyota Camera, original battery. Do the math. The battery is 82 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: nine years old. Battery terminals are so corroded they were 83 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: beyond recognition. They didn't look like battery terminals anymore. It 84 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: almost didn't look like a battery. It was almost like 85 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: I had to wear a biohazard suit when I lifted 86 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: the hood because it was so much corrosion and and 87 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: and chemical floating around under there, and the damage it 88 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: did to the surrounding wiring, harness, engine, undercovers, cables. You 89 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: know that'll be the next year. I don't understand why 90 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: my car is unreliable and why it doesn't run right, 91 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: and why it and hurry up, I have to be 92 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: somewhere else. That was the other part of that conversation 93 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 1: that was a weight job. Did denial cause these people 94 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: not to maintain their cars? And is it because cars 95 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: are perceived to be made better or is that just 96 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: the image today? I think denial keeps us safe, you 97 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: know when we talk about order repair and the complications. 98 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: I had a woman this week with a vehicle. We 99 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: ended up looking the car over, did an oil change, 100 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: looking the car over, the car needed is worth of breaks. 101 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: And when the car was done, when the repair was done, 102 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: and I explained to her because I noticed, you know, 103 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: she was a grandma and there was two car seats 104 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: in the back and I knew she was carrying the kids. 105 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: I explained to her, here's why you need to replace 106 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: the brakes. Now. You know two of the rotors are 107 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: so badly rusted. The surface contact area of the rotor, 108 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: if it was two inches wide, the rotor only had 109 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: about an inch worth of safe contact area. The rest 110 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: of the rotor was so badly rusted in decade it 111 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: was flaking off and falling apart. Denial kept her going 112 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: like this for a while because she'd been told by 113 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 1: two other repair shops, you need breaks, but she chose 114 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: not to listen. I made her listen at the risk 115 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: of losing her I made her listen because I saw 116 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: the two car seats in the back seat, because I 117 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: know what can happen when a four thousand pounds automobile 118 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: do when sixty hits the brakes and there's nothing there. 119 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: Denial kept her for the longest time from fixing that car. 120 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: Denial kept all these people, except for the first one, 121 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: which was a surprise, from replacing their batteries. My answer is, 122 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: denial is more than just a river in Egypt. It's 123 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: it's it's a human emotion that I think you have 124 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 1: to take out of the equation. Look, I think auto 125 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: repair maybe it would do well on Vulcan. I don't know, 126 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: because I think the day and age of and I 127 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: sort of look forward to driverless cars for this reason. 128 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: When we get driverless cars, I keep thinking to myself, 129 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: how great this is gonna be. The car is gonna 130 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: bring me a note, it's gonna say, hey, I'm due 131 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: for service. Rotate the electrons, change the transfer case fluid, 132 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: swap out the battery, and I'm not gonna have to 133 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: argue with anybody. I'm not gonna have to face that 134 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: that blitzkrieg of why did my car break? Your car 135 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: broke because somebody decided that you should own it and 136 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: drive it. You took it out on a road, and 137 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: four or five or seven or eight or nine or 138 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: ten years later things break. That's what goes wrong with cars. 139 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: Deal with it. Don't let the nile keep you from 140 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: taking care of your car. If you're that person out 141 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: there that's got that nine year old battery and you're 142 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: bragging about it, sooner or later, you're gonna find yourself 143 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: like this Oh seven camera owner, stuck on a doorstep 144 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: of a repair shop, not being able to get to 145 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: where you gotta get automob bills require maintenance. Automobiles require 146 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: proper care and and and and and diagnostics in order 147 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: and take care of them. I think that the industry 148 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: is changing, and I'm hoping you're gonna change with it. 149 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: I was telling the boys, and we're gonna talk about 150 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: that a little bit to sour how the industry changes. 151 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: This week in the shop. Now we're in North Jersey. 152 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: We're in Waldwick, New Jersey, so we're we're here. We 153 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: actually had a repair chain, I'm sorry, aparts chain visit 154 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: us from across the river and claiming they wanted to 155 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: start delivering us parts from the Bronx. Now the Bronx 156 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: is probably tony twenty miles from where I am right 157 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: the Bronx. Yeah, okay, so they're gonna bring parts over 158 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: the GW Bridge, come up Root four Roots seventeen to 159 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: deliver parts. The parts business is that bad that we're 160 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: gonna start to venture on a daily basis. We had 161 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: a tire company visit us from Long Island that's probably 162 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: the equivalent of thirty miles more than that, coming over 163 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: coming up the Cross Bronx Expressway the GW Bridge, and 164 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: they come out to North Jersey once or twice a day. 165 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: It's not that their businesses are expanding. The problem is 166 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: the market is changing and the market is shrinking. And 167 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: what I'm finding more and more of is we're going 168 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: more into panic order repair. Things that denial kept us 169 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: from doing that are forcing us to, oh, my gosh, 170 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: at the last minute, something failed and something didn't get 171 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: taken care of. Every one of those batteries except four, well, 172 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess I can't really say that this 173 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: the O seven camera, the battery died. I can't tell 174 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: you if it was the shock of the heat of 175 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: the summer, if the grid's broke down, I can't tell 176 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: you what took that out. But the others, except for 177 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: the one battery five years old. Two of those batteries, 178 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: at least, the O five pilot and the thirteen achord, 179 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: both of those were young failures. Here's where I get 180 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: to tell you about powerframe grid technology. Hear me talking 181 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: about it all the time, right Here's where I tell 182 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: you that a power frame grid technology battery will be 183 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: less likely to suffer from that heat failure or that 184 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: shock of temperature change because of the way the grid 185 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: is made, Because of the battery is made better more 186 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: information at powerframe dot com. But the bottom line becomes 187 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: that denial still kept those people from repairing those cars 188 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: and taking proper care of them. Don't fall into the trap. 189 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: We're going into winter, except for those of you podcasting 190 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: down Brazil WI. Um, we're going into winter here in 191 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: the continental United States. So this is not the time 192 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: of the year you want to be stuck on the 193 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: side of the road or at work when the car 194 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: doesn't start. Eight five zero zero, clear and clean and simple. 195 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: And we also just want to do a quick shout 196 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: out and say a couple of things. Number one zero 197 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: phone number seven. And I want to point out for 198 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: my new listeners up there in Ogdensburg, New York, just 199 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: on this side of the river. Um, we're now up 200 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: in Ogdensburg, New York, up close to the Canadian border. 201 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: That that eight zero zero zero phone number that will work. Uh, 202 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: that'll work here right tom that comes that comes across 203 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: the river, that works internationally, doesn't it? Oh? It sure 204 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: it does. And the folks up in Canada, the Prescott, 205 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: Toronto and uh Montreal areas who are listening on w 206 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: q t K can go ahead and give us a 207 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: shout feel free to won't cost you sent hey, So 208 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: we'll uh zero nine nine zero zero perfect, and I'm 209 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: running aiding the Car Doctor. We'll be back right after this. 210 00:11:39,360 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: Love bad night, stop them back. We're naming the car 211 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: Doctor rolling along at eat five five six zero nine 212 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. As I said before, that is seven number. 213 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: It seems to work from everywhere, um, overseas, from over 214 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: the border, and um we're just looking for your phone 215 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: calls at zero nine nine zero zero. As a matter 216 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: of fact, there is a seven messaging service set up 217 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: on that number, so you can call eight five zero 218 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: nine zero zero during the week if we're not here, 219 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: or leave a message and our producer will call you 220 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: back and get you in the lineup, get you in 221 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: the queue and we can talk to you up here 222 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: on radio like we're gonna go do to Ron and Victoria, 223 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: Texas with some questions about a two thousand and eleven 224 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: Cheva your verse. Ron. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir, Well, 225 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: thank you. I'm a little bit envious of your weather 226 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: though we're still dealing with degree afternoons here. Well, I'll 227 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: tell you what I'll take. I'll take ninety five degree 228 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: afternoons that's okay, brother, um, because it's it's kind of 229 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: dewey and damp up here, and it's you know, it's 230 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: getting to that like you know, it felt. I'll tell you, 231 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: I took the dog out this morning and it just 232 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: felt like autumn. It really did. You could just you 233 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: could get that shiver up your spine when you're walking 234 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: the dog, and it was like, oh boy, here we go. 235 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: So I can take your I can take your autumns, 236 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: but I don't want nothing to do with your winters. Yeah. Well, yeah, 237 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: winter up here is a special event, although it's not 238 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: as bad as other places. Ull Um, But isn't it 239 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: you know? I mean, as long as we're talking weather, 240 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: what the heck? I don't know what became the weather channel, 241 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: but you know, isn't it isn't weather? Isn't Winter down 242 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: in Texas kind of tough too on in the in 243 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: the places where it's prairie and you know, the wind 244 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: comes rolling along and it's just cold. It probably is 245 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: in the in the West Texas. But uh, but where 246 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: we're at, we're golf coast, so uh, both weeks of 247 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: winters pretty tolerable. The week of winter, yeah, usually it's 248 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: about between the end of January and the beginning of February. 249 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: We usually have about two maybe three weeks. If it's 250 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: it's a beer winter, well let's see for us up here, 251 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: it'll start the week after Christmas and it'll go on 252 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: until April. Second, I think I know. I was born 253 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: and raised in Ohio. Winter I went from October to 254 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: March and never saw the sun. Yeah, well I think 255 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: that was our you know, we we have February. February 256 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: is very tough, lots lots of snow and um um 257 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. So but anyway, I 258 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: have a daughter that lives in Connecticut, so I get 259 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: weather report, you get, you get the whole story. Anyway, 260 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: I bought this car probably three months ago, and we 261 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: had drove it for a week and it had an 262 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: issue with a stabillet track, and uh, I figured it was. 263 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: I actually scanned it and it told me it was 264 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: a break pedal sensor. But uh, having this is a 265 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: newer vehicle and I know everything's interlinks, so I took 266 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: it to the dealership to go ahead and have them, 267 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: uh run it on their on their machine and check 268 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: and make sure there were no other issues. And that 269 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: of course, it turned out that it was a rear 270 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: break censer, and they replaced that and took care of 271 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: my light issues. But over the following weeks I started 272 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: to realize the thing was getting terrible gas knowledge. The 273 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: the the UM average mileage indicator was showing the twelve 274 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: point five twelve point eight, and I thought, well, surely 275 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: that's not right. And uh so the first tank that 276 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: I put in it, I checked it and sure enough 277 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: it's twelve point eight. And have no, I have no idea. 278 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: Did you notice the gas mileage getting worse ever since 279 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: they did the repair? No, it's been the same wealth 280 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: I didn't really. It was the vehicle was new and 281 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: we were not really paying attention to it, and I 282 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: was going through my normal uh routine of checking things 283 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: out and getting familiar with it. So we hadn't got 284 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: to gas mileage yet. And so the one I got 285 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: to that point, why I realized this thing. You know, 286 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: if we if I thought this thing would have been 287 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: this bad, I would have got a suburban. That's a 288 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a Texas Cadillact down there, 289 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: isn't it. Well? I mean yeah, yeah, And I've had 290 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: several of them, and they were getting uh sixteen eighteen 291 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: mile aga on average. So uh. But anyway, now, this 292 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: is an all wheel drive, and and one of the 293 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: concerns I had was that maybe the four wheel drive 294 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: portion of it was was it was not acted right close. 295 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: When we're parked and we back out and make a 296 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: hard turn, it almost feels like the suspensions kind of 297 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: binding up or something. It just doesn't feel what I 298 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: think should be normal. But I've never had an all 299 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: wheel drive, you know, you know car before, so I 300 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: really don't know if that's normal or not. Do you 301 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: have a separate button for traction control on that car? Run? Yes? Yes, 302 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: if you turn it off, does the line didn't go away? Well, 303 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know because if I haven't, I 304 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: can tell you one thing. When I took the Stabilla 305 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: link uh or Stabilla track off, and I did a 306 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: kind of a perfunctory mileage checking overs, I put it 307 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: on average mileage, and it's about seventeen miles from where 308 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: where I lived, where my wife works, so she drives 309 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: that twice a day. So I drew that same route 310 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: and and uh took the Stabilla track off, and and 311 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: I was getting about twenty miles from yelling it got 312 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: better a sudden, it seemed like it did. Yes, but 313 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: I can't tell. I took it to an independent shop 314 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: the other day and thinking that maybe there was something 315 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: wrong with the all wheel drive or somehow it wasn't 316 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: coming out. But he did. What he said was a 317 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: deep skin. He's right. I don't think I don't and 318 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna find codes run. I think 319 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: this is a characteristic of the vehicle. I hear this 320 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: is a common complaint quite often. It's it's the way 321 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: GM has the stability track designed into the vehicle, and 322 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: it seems to be a common characteristic. You drive around 323 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: with the stability track off, it gets better fuel economy 324 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: than it does with it on. So today I'm still 325 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: waiting for the software reflash that nobody seems to a 326 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: photo of yet to correct the problem, but they haven't 327 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: created it. I'll tell you what, Ron, stay. Put a 328 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: couple other things that's want to mention to you, just 329 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: to cover the basics. We kind of got the car 330 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: before the horse here, so stay where you are. We'll 331 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: come back to you right after this. I'm Ron naming 332 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: the car doctor. We'll be back right after this don't 333 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: go away, welcome back right naming the car doctor rolling along, 334 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: Let's get back to run and Victoria text is run 335 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: you're still there, sir? Yeah, so there there is something 336 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: peculiar about this generation Chevy Traverse with stability track that 337 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: turning stability track off will increase fuel economy in miles 338 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: per gallon that being said, you know, I'd like to 339 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: see you do it on a consistent basis. Does that 340 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: make the difference, and if it does, at least you 341 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: know what the characteristic is and how to get around it. 342 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: But I also just want to cover the basics obviously, 343 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm concerned, you know about a couple other things, 344 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: cool and temperature, fuel trim, you know the basics, tire pressure, 345 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: you know before right away we jump onto the vehicle 346 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: and think about you know all you know all that's 347 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: all that's in line. I mean, I'm a former a 348 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: s C certified mechanic and have I had had Moan 349 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: shops and pretty well know my way around. I know, 350 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: I'm I know all the drill you're talking about and everything. 351 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: Fuel trims. That was the one thing I checked when 352 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: I went with the independent shop and they were they 353 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: were within I think, uh, negative two percent or something. 354 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: Yeah that's more fun. Yeah, yeah, that's more than fun 355 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: than the higher pressures everything. The only thing I the 356 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: only question mark I have is the I haven't been 357 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: able to find anybody who can explain how the four 358 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: wheel drive all wheel drive works because it's convertible from 359 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: ten to thirty rear bias based on the traction situation, 360 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's somehow stuck in thirty five. 361 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: I can't find any way to to uh to to 362 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: determine that. That's the other unknown I have. I would say, 363 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: and I can't tell you that I've actually done this, 364 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: but in my mind I agree with you. I would 365 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: think there was there should be a way to monitor 366 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: what percentage or duty cycle um state the traction control 367 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: is in. I would think using and I'm gonna say 368 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: a tech too, because I'm not sure if any other 369 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: scan tool would do it, but dealer level tool. Uh, 370 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, to have the ability to go in and 371 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: look and see what state it's in. Probably under either 372 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: drive train and traction ConTroll there's gonna be a module 373 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: there whatever controls it to see to see what it's 374 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, see what the pit value is, what the 375 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: percentage value is. Because you're correct. But then my comment 376 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: would be, if it's stuck at I'll use your number. 377 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: Wouldn't you think that it would set a fault? Well 378 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: if I would think so. But there again, I don't 379 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: know how it works, right, I mean that's my initial thought. 380 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean, anymore, everything everything in the world is is 381 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: goes through so many computers and they communicate with each other. 382 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: That the days of the shade tree mechanic, you're kind 383 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: of going by the wayside. And I mean, I've worked 384 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: on them all my life, and I'm smart enough to 385 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: know that if I don't have the right tool, I'm 386 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: just beating my head against Let me, um, you know what, Ron, 387 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: send me the VIN, email me the VIN okay for 388 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: that vehicle, Ron at cardcr show dot com, and let 389 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: me run the vent. I've got a source of GM. 390 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: Maybe I can get some inside GM paperwork. Maybe I 391 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: can just go through a shop manual. Got access to 392 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: GM factory manuals. Maybe I can get an actual description 393 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: of how that system works. Uh, we'll both learn a 394 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: little bit more about it. But like like I said, 395 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: turning off the stability track light or turning off the 396 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: stability track. If that gets better fuel upon me, that's 397 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: part of the answer. Okay, now, what about disabling the 398 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: fuel stabilitrack clothes with turning it off. You've got to 399 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: turn it off every time you start the car because 400 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: it automatically defaults to the on position. Is there a 401 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: way to pull a fuse that you wouldn't be able 402 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: to get the fault readings or something disabled the other 403 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: parts of the car. I'm wondering if you know, I 404 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: get I get nervous about pulling fuses because what other 405 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: modules are powered up by that particular circuit if any. Yeah, 406 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: that's what I'm concerned about. And if I could pull 407 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: a fuse, I'm not worried about. I mean, we go 408 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: through dry specs, dry spells that are a month long, 409 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: so I could do a weak test with the stabilitrac 410 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: fusion removed and get it more accurate. That's whether or 411 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: not that's actually helping right now. If you put a 412 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: fault in the system, such as I would, I would 413 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: have to believe that the wheel speed sensors are part 414 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: of the stability track system, so the computer can tell 415 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: how fast you know the wheels are turning. And what's 416 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: losing traction and what's not, so it knows how to 417 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: proportion traction control. I would think if if if if 418 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: somehow a wheel speed sensor got unplugged, ha ha ha. Yeah. 419 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: But see, that's one thing I don't want to do 420 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: because I do value the anlock break, right, and that's 421 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: the former GM engineer and I know that's that's the 422 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: other problem. You're gonna start to disable the anti lock breaks. 423 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: I'm not willing to do that, right, so you know, 424 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: to actually turn off the stability track itself without you know, 425 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: the only thing I could think of is if you 426 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: went to the transfer case, found out there's got to 427 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: be a couple of switches down there, found out what 428 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: switch was what, and disabled to control from that so 429 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: it had no reaction that way. Well, can you dad, 430 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: can you dat a log stabilit tract to Is there 431 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: some kind of box you could you know, put in 432 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: the O B D two ports and run it for 433 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: a week to tell how many times that thing cycled. 434 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: Not if it's cycling, not at our level. I'm sure, 435 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: I'm sure the engineers have something, but not not at 436 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: the repair shop level, because yeah, you're asking very valid 437 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: questions and I'm sure they would need to know that, 438 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, in field testing at the proving grounds in 439 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: the way that they approached designing the vehicle. But yeah, 440 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: a field mechanic really wouldn't need to know that, or 441 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: that's that's that's their concept, whether or not that he 442 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: needs to know that. As another conversation, let me pick 443 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: your brain on one last thing and I'm done. Is 444 00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: there any kind of UM enthusiasts based scan tool that 445 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: will let you communicate with the modules without spending to 446 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: three dollars right now? All right? If I was to 447 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: go out and purchase a scan tool, Well, there's a 448 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 1: couple of things. When I start talking about scan tools, 449 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: eBay has a bunch of stuff. There is a great 450 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: deal of older, good but older scan tools on eBay 451 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: right now, arranging everything from OTC Genesis to various levels 452 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: of snap on to other things. You know, your you 453 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: might find something five, you might find something a thousand dollars. 454 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: Depends on what you're looking for, It depends on how old. 455 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: If I want something newer and a little bit more 456 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: cutting edge, I think one of the better tools out 457 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: there right now bang for the buck. It's about dollars. 458 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: I know it sounds like a lot, but the X 459 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: four thirty one Pro from Launch it's it's a smaller tablet, 460 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: it's got a nice ergonomic handle at it fits in 461 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: the palm of your hand. It's left or right handed, 462 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: it's quick, it's Android based. Um, it's a very down 463 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: and dirty works great scan tool, if you know what 464 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, Well, what the problem I'm finding is 465 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: that I need something that I can actuate the systems on. 466 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: Other words, I can go ahead and do the component 467 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: tests on the on the scan tool. So you need 468 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: bi directional control, Yeah, take a look at the Launch 469 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: X forty one PROA. Yeah, you'll you'll find more on 470 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: their website Launch tech USA dot com. But take a look. 471 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: Take a look at that X four thirty one Pro. 472 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: We use it in the shop. It does bi directional control. Now, 473 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: keep in mind, not every scan tool works perfectly on 474 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: every car and to date to date. Now understand too, 475 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: I've got a choice of nineteen scan tools in the shop. 476 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: I've got one of every right, well mostly mostly what 477 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: I deal with is five year old and older GM products. 478 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: Right well, right now, that Launch tool has become my 479 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: right arm. So you know, I I noticed that. I 480 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: said that the day any of the other day. I said, 481 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: I haven't put this tool down in three weeks. I 482 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: haven't gone to anything else. And that says a lot. Okay, 483 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: one more, one more comment, one more comment. Test test 484 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,719 Speaker 1: drove UH sixteen health Care the day before yesterday, and 485 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: that is the most technically sophisticated car I've ever been 486 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: in in my life. Yeah, it's it's and you know, 487 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: just and to further go with that statement, I often 488 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: wonder when they build cars that are such technically demanding vehicles, 489 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: have we shortened the life cycle of that vehicle? Because 490 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that car at eight years old, nine 491 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: years old, having to fix some of those systems and 492 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,239 Speaker 1: justify the expense, never mind you know, diagnosing it and 493 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: then never mind, you know, are we gonna be able 494 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: to still get the parts after eight years because Chrysler 495 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: isn't one to keep parts around any longer than they 496 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: have to. Remember, the goal is to get you to 497 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: buy a new car, and sometimes I think the technology 498 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: is going to drive people to do that that much faster. 499 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,239 Speaker 1: Ron I appreciate the call, I appreciate the chat and 500 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: run some of those things run some of those tests 501 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: and give me a call back. Let me know how 502 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: things are down Victoria, Texas Way height five five zero 503 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. I'm run an Anian, the car Doctor. 504 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. He's going ron an 505 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: Adian Ken, Hey, ron Anian, car Doctor here at a 506 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: five zero nine nine zero zero. Here to drive you 507 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: to the point of what's going on with your car. 508 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: That's what this radio show is all about. Let's go 509 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: over and talk to Ruby, Omaha, Nebraska, two thousand three 510 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: miles the Ruby. Welcome to the car Doctor. How can 511 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:06,719 Speaker 1: I help? Hi? Hi? Uh? I have a master tribute. 512 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: And suddenly the brakes went completely out. The brakes went 513 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: to the floor, to the floor, nothing happened. The dashboard 514 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: the red brake like the dashboard Ruby, you know it was. 515 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: It's really my daughter's car. I'm not sure about that, 516 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: but my son looked at it and he thinks that 517 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: well that the brake the line broke and fluid leaked 518 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:41,479 Speaker 1: out by the left front tire. And I was wondering 519 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: if I have that fixed with that because by some 520 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: defect or to have to worry about it happening again 521 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: or well. The first the first concern I have when 522 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: I have a brake line failure. What you're describing to 523 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: me sounds like a brake line failure or a brake 524 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: component failure. It could be wet and it could be 525 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: wet up there for either one. So for example, if 526 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: the brake caliper, the piece that squeezes the brake pads together, 527 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: the hydraulic portion that squeezes the brake pads together, if that, 528 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: if that failed, that would leak. If the rubber hose 529 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: that connects the caliper to the steel line on the frame, 530 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: if that failed, that could leak obviously, And then is 531 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: it the metal line itself, you know, so it really 532 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: depends on what exactly failed, which component was taken out. 533 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: So the first thing somebody wants to do, and I 534 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: always do this on any sort of brake failure, is 535 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: look the entire vehicle over. You know, if if if 536 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: it's rusted that took out the brake line, the steel 537 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: brake line, If it's rusted on the left front, it's 538 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: gonna be rusted. On the right front, it's gonna be 539 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: rusted in the rear, it's gonna be rusted all over. 540 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: So just fixing the left front doesn't really help you 541 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: because you've got three or four other places where there's 542 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: a potential problem, and you know, first step in any 543 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: kind of a failure like this is complete vehicle inspection. 544 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: Have you taken a tour? Have you taken it to 545 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: a repair shut up to get an estimate? Yet? Not yet? No? 546 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: Um uh no, not dead, but yeah I will. But 547 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: right you had a second question, Um, so it could 548 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: be all kinds of things, and you have no idea 549 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: what that would cost, right right, Yeah, it could It 550 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: could be all kinds of things. Ruby, it could be 551 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: it could be two it could be two thousand dollars, 552 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: And until you know what the components are, no one 553 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 1: would really have any idea of of of knowing what 554 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: the costs are until until if the break light was on, 555 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: I could ask her about that. I was just curious 556 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: that the break light was on. If the break lights 557 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: not on and the brake pedal goes to the floor, 558 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: then I'm going to tell you that there's some sort 559 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: of another problem in that the warning system isn't working. 560 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: I would expect the break light to be on because 561 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: for the pedal to go to the floor. Two things happened. 562 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: The master cylinder is out of fluid, and the low 563 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: level light should be on or the red brake light 564 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: and the bias the way the break system splits front 565 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: to back to maintain even breaking, there's a switch and 566 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: a light in there for that that will trigger the 567 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: sensor failure or the light to come on. And if 568 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: that light is not on, then there's a problem there too. Listen. 569 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: I know it's difficult for you. In in simple english, 570 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: it's an older car. Before you spend a lot of money, 571 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: go spend a little bit of money, get an evaluation 572 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: and some sort of a projected component repair. What's it 573 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: gonna take. Doesn't need a caliper, doesn't need a line, 574 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: doesn't need steel lines, and there's difference. There's a steel 575 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: brake line, a rubber brake cos and a caliper that 576 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: we're talking about here. What exactly failed? And try and 577 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: get some sort of an estimate, and if you have 578 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: any other questions give me a call back next week. 579 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: But you know this is a case of look before 580 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: you repair, because you'll end up in the long run 581 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: knowing exactly what you're getting into. I appreciate the call. 582 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: Will be my best to you and yours out there. 583 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: Romahan to brask Away on zero, Ron Nay and the 584 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: car doctor coming back right after this. I'm having t 585 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: hey welcome back on in the car doctor. Let's go 586 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: and talk to Seth in Pennsylvania, stef Seth, I have 587 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: two minutes. What's going on? Hi? Ron? I have a 588 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: two thousand four dodging traffic with the three point five 589 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: leader automatic, and UM, it doesn't happen all the time, 590 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: about sixty of the time. UM, I have a very 591 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: hard shift from first gear to second gear. UM. I'll 592 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: be going along and the our camill just all of 593 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: a sudden rev and all of a sudden the carl 594 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: jerk when I can feel it shift in the second gear. 595 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: And I didn't know if that was the sign of 596 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: the transmission going bad or something else. Who's going on? 597 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: The answer is probably a sign of the transmission going bad. 598 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a couple of quick questions. What's 599 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: the mileage on this card least time the fluid was changed? UM, 600 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 1: I think it was around eight Okay, let's say let's 601 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: say eighty thousand. We'll use that. We don't have to 602 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: be more exact than that. UM. I'll assume they use 603 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: the correct fluid. And when I asked that question. Chryslers 604 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: of this generation were very specific in terms of fluid. 605 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: They were one of those fluid sensitive vehicles. And I 606 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: would have to say it was the correct fluid then, 607 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: because otherwise you would be seeing the issue sooner than 608 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: forty thous miles later. So that being said, all right, um, 609 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: what I want you to do is if you take 610 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: it into a repair shop, I wanted to do two things. 611 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: Scan it for fault codes to see if there's anything pending, 612 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: all right, number one. Number two, talk to them about 613 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: doing a c V I or a clutch volume index 614 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 1: test c v I. Think of a balloon, all right, 615 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: If if the balloon is ten inches in diameter, all right, 616 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: every time you fill it up with their the balloon 617 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: blows up the ten inches. That's the cushion that allows 618 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: the transmission to shift. It always expected to be out 619 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: to that diameter as the clutches and the internal components 620 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 1: of the transmission. Where the balloon gets bigger, your balloon, 621 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: your your clutch volume index will tell you if that 622 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: balloon is stretching to its outer limit, and if it is, 623 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: it's gonna cause that intermittent hard shift. So you want 624 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: to go in and do a c v I index 625 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: test to see if they're within spec and then consider 626 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: changing the fluid and doing a quick learn to see 627 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: if that really leads the problem. If it doesn't, it's 628 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: probably transmission rebuilt time. I'm run any of the card doctor. 629 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See it she never one. 630 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: I come along one and she was staring insid