1 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome back to another new episode of 2 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Couch Talks on You Need Therapy. My name is Kat 3 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: and I'm the host and if you're new, couch Talks 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: is the special bonus episode of You Need Therapy where 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: I answer questions that you, guys, the listeners, send to 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: me and you can send those to Catherine at You 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Need Therapy podcast dot com. You can email them straight 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: to me and if it's something I feel like I 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: can answer, hopefully one day I can get to your 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: question on the show. And I also keep them anonymous, 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: so you don't have to worry about any of that. 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: You can feel safe sending in your question and most 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: likely somebody has a similar question that you might be 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: grappling with. It's like, you know, like elementary school, or 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: I guess any school where people are like more than 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: one person is wondering that same thing, but somebody has 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: to be courageous enough to ask it. That's kind of 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: what this is sometimes, and this feels like times two people. 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: So I always like to thank the people that feel 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: and choose to grab onto the courage that they feel 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: to ask the question because it is a vulnerable thing 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: and you know this podcast is talking about a lot 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: of vulnerable stuff. It's literally the whole thing. It's about 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: vulnerable topics. So I I just want to say thank 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: you to you guys. Also, before we get into the 26 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: question that we're going to talk about today, quick reminder that, yeah, 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm a therapist, but this doesn't get to be and 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: can't be therapy in its own right. So I might 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: lead you there, but this is not a therapy session. Okay, 30 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: So let's get to the question today. Now, there's a 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: question that I chose to answer today and because I 32 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: want to address it, but I'm going to kind of 33 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: give you the gist of it. Because, like I said, 34 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: I keep these anonymous. It's also nice to keep some 35 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: of the details out as well, sometimes because I never 36 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: want to exploit someone's story. And now I know most 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: people won't know who it is, but I sometimes just 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: don't even want people to like feel like, oh, somebody 39 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: might know that was me. I personally felt protective of 40 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: this question, but I wanted to address it, so I'm 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: leaving out some of the details. But I'm only telling 42 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: you that because unless someone tells me not to share something, 43 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: I also assume that you don't mind me reading the 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: entire email, So keep that in mind. If you do 45 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: share some details that you want me to keep private 46 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: or you wouldn't want me to share on the actual podcast, 47 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: let me know. This person didn't say that. I just 48 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: felt protective and I wanted to keep some of it out. 49 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: So this listeners sent an email that talked about a 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: night that she drank a lot. Mind it was entirely 51 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: too much and she had to be put to bed 52 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: and kind of taken to bed by her husband, who 53 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 1: was visibly upset about it, especially um the next day, 54 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: and then the next day a couple of people also 55 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: made comments to her about how much she drank. Now 56 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: I want to read a little excerpt from her email, 57 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: and this is actually her speaking, and she says, even now, 58 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: I don't think I will ever be able to let 59 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: go of the shame I felt about that night. It 60 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: will forever take the memory of that day for me. 61 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: While in therapy it was helpful to recognize and understand 62 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: the feeling enough shame, But now I still don't understand 63 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: how to work on letting go of it. How do 64 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: you move past the shame and forgive yourself? What are 65 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: ways to start healing? I felt like my therapist wasn't 66 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: helpful enough at the time, and I stopped going. Should 67 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: I start again? Okay, I will say yes. I think 68 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: therapy could really help with this. Now, is your therapist 69 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: that you were seeing the right therapist? I don't know. 70 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: Maybe it would be help put to talk to her 71 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: about the fact that it felt like it wasn't helpful 72 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: at the time and why that was. Because sometimes we 73 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: want healing to go faster than it really can. So 74 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: I can't be the one that says should you go 75 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: back to that therapist or not, or what you should do. 76 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: But I do think therapy is something that's very helpful 77 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: with the reduction and healing of shame. And that's because 78 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: just talking about it with a human, face to face 79 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: takes away some of the shame's power. Shame is a 80 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: feeling that grows and breeds off of silence and secrecy, 81 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: and when we remove those two things, it loses the 82 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: ability to thrive. Which now this is a good time 83 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: for me to talk about the difference between healthy shame, 84 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: toxic shame, and guilt. And I actually have a whole 85 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: episode on this from last year that I did with 86 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: my friend and another therapist another licensed therapist, Cammy Pride. 87 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: So you can look at that. I think it's titled 88 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: toxic Shame. You can just google you need therapy shame 89 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: and it will pop up anyway. So healthy shame. I 90 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: know some people are like, shame is bad, Shame is bad. 91 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: Shame is a feeling, and all feelings are they're not 92 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: good or bad. Um, they might not feel good, but 93 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean it's it's a bad feeling. Like hurt 94 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: doesn't feel good, doesn't mean it's a bad feeling. Fear 95 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: doesn't feel good, doesn't mean it's a bad feeling. Anger 96 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: doesn't feel good a lot of times, but it doesn't 97 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: mean it's a bad feeling. It just is feelings are 98 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: not good or bad. So healthy shame helps us live 99 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: into cultural norms that are not forms of oppression, like 100 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: we wouldn't want to live into those. But an example 101 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: of this is like wearing clothes, right, So if I 102 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: didn't feel shame, then I would be walking around naked, 103 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know, maybe you could argue 104 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: that we should be able to do that. I am 105 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: not going to argue that because I am very happy 106 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: that we were clothing personally, But what I'm saying is 107 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: it helps us align with what feels true and right 108 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: when it comes to like who we are now. Toxic 109 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: shame is something that pops up and says I am bad. Right, 110 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: that's very different than this like healthy form of shame. 111 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: So toxic shame is something that send us the message 112 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: I'm a bad person, like the essence of me is bad. 113 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: It keeps us really stuck, and it it sends us 114 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: the message that we are inherently just like not good. 115 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: Where the difference between that and guilt is guilt says 116 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: I did something bad, okay, well that's okay, Like guilt 117 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: just signals behavior that doesn't align with the things we 118 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: want to do. Like I love guilt, and I don't 119 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: like to feel it, Like I don't think it feels good, 120 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: just like I said earlier, But I like that I 121 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: feel it, and I like that I know people who 122 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: feel it. Because what it also is it's a great 123 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: indicator that we're not sociopaths. Right, Like, so it sends 124 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: us the message that we have the capacity for empathy 125 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: and healthy guilt and shame or the lack of it 126 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: helps us also align with people who we fit best with. Right, 127 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: So the things that we feel a healthy shame and 128 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: and guilt around, or we don't help us figure out 129 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: what our our value system is, and then it helps 130 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: us figure out what kind of people do we want 131 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: to be around. So the presence of it helps you 132 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: identify kind of like what you believe and and what 133 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: you don't believe in, what feels right and what feels 134 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: wrong to you. So again, I mean just repeat that, 135 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: like toxic shame says I am bad, while guilt says 136 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: I did something bad or wrong. So it sounds like 137 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: you had a lot of I am bad, I'm a 138 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: bad person, and I'm actually assuming this this didn't say 139 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: that in the email, but a lot of feelings about 140 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: like I am a bad person. I can't believe I 141 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: did this. I'll never be able to give myself like 142 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: x y Z and I think a lot of people 143 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: listening can probably identify with moments where we've said that 144 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: to ourselves. I like, I'll never be able to forgive myself. 145 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to be seen like I don't want 146 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: to talk to anybody, like oh my gosh, what are 147 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: people thinking about me? Like all of us no room 148 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: for grace and not a that and I get that 149 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: and then at the initial like response to something. But 150 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: if we really sit with those feelings and in that experience, 151 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: and then we give some time and then maybe we 152 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: speak about it with somebody, we can transform and shift 153 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: that like toxic shame into maybe a healthy form of 154 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: shame that might help us not behave in a way 155 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: that doesn't fit with us again, or a lying in 156 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: a way that doesn't fit with us again, or we 157 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: can help shift it into this healthy guilt that says, hey, 158 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: that wasn't you, and that behavior doesn't really align with you, 159 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: but that wasn't you. You did something that like you 160 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: don't really want to do again. So let's look at 161 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: why did you do that? How did it get to 162 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: the point that it did. Was that just an innocent mistake? 163 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: Like do we need to offer ourselves some grace here? 164 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 1: And like it's not Maybe we're not saying it's okay 165 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: you did that. We're saying, yeah, we don't want to 166 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: do that again, but we're also not going to keep 167 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: ourselves in a prison because we made that mistake one 168 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: or two times, maybe even three times. So all this 169 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: is to say, healing shame starts with talking about it 170 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: and talking about with safe people, so as arapist or 171 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: I loved one or a really good friend, family member, 172 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: somebody who you know can see you separate from individual 173 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: behaviors that you might have done or participated in. Again, 174 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: we've all experienced shame. It's a it's one of the 175 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: emotions that we kind of are born having access to, 176 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: and a lot of us have experienced what you are 177 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: talking about here. So I'm gonna go ahead and be 178 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: in this with you and say I've also had moments 179 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: where I've had such strong feelings of ick after I've 180 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: done things and I've behaved in ways that I've thought 181 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: I'd never be able to forgive myself for either. And 182 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: there are some things that I'm still set with myself 183 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: over and at the same time, I know that they 184 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: are behaviors and they're not the essence of who I am, 185 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: and that is huge. That is a huge shame release 186 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: or saying to yourself that was a behavior, that was 187 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: a thing I did that is not the essence of 188 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: who I am. And one behavior does not dictate the 189 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: rest of me. One behavior does not dictate the rest 190 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: of me and the rest of my life, Especially if 191 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: you have feelings of remorse over it, right, because I 192 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: guess I'd get like, that's who you are if you 193 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, there's no big deal, so what I 194 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: did that? Like, Okay, that's who they are. But the 195 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: fact that we're like, oh, I can't believe I did that, 196 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, okay, well, that obviously doesn't align with 197 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: you and that's not you. So I want to encourage 198 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: you to, yeah, like go back to therapy if it's 199 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: something that you can have access to and and participate in. Like, 200 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: if that's something that you can do, Like, I really 201 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: encourage you to go back and have some conversations and 202 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: dive into some of that stuff. And if therapy is 203 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: not a resource that some of you listening to have, 204 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: then go to people that you trust and love. I 205 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: think also with this is yes, speaking and telling our 206 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: story and and releasing silence and secrecy helps really shame. 207 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean we have to tell every detail 208 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: of our story to every person in the world. We 209 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: can feel feelings of release from shame from even just 210 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: telling one person. We don't have to go on national 211 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: TV and tell our story to release shame, because that 212 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: sometimes can feel like somewhat like exploitive and maybe not 213 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: authentic sometimes for for people. But when we're connecting one 214 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: on one with somebody and we're saying hey, I know 215 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: you're seeing me and hearing me, and we're having this 216 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: like intimate moment, that can be a bigger release than 217 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,479 Speaker 1: sharing it with a large group of people. So it's quality, 218 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: not quantity what I'm trying to say there. So I 219 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: hope that was helpful to you, um, the listener that 220 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: sent that in, And again, I wanted to empathize with 221 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: you because I know what that feels like, and it's 222 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: a tough experience to sit and it's it really is tough, 223 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: and I don't like that we have to go through 224 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: kind of those things. But at the same time, it 225 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: does help us live deeper and and become deeper into 226 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: who we really want to be and know as ourselves. 227 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: So I hope that was helpful, and I hope that 228 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: some of the people that have had similar experiences but 229 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: maybe haven't sent that question and got a little something 230 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: out of that. And as always, guys, thank you for 231 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: listening and thank you for sending in your questions. They 232 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: means a lot that you trust me with parts of 233 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: your story. So thank you. I hope you have the 234 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: day you need to have, and I will talk to 235 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: you on Monday. Get excited because Monday, I'm going to 236 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: share my findings and my feelings about the Instagram experiment 237 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: that I did where I unfollowed everybody and I'm just 238 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: now getting back to following certain people back and I'm 239 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: back in the game seeing what people are doing with 240 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: their lives. And I'm going to share with you what 241 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: I found throughout that and what that felt like and 242 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: kind of what I'm making of it. So stay tuned 243 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: for Monday's episode, and again, have the day you need 244 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: to have. I will talk to you guys soon.