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Speaker 1: Podcast starts. Now. Wow, hello everyone around the globe. You

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Speaker 1: are listening to Stradio Lab, the only podcast is also

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Speaker 1: a corporation. How the hell is it going? George? You

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Speaker 1: really got me with that corporation joke. I wasn't expecting it. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: we surprise ourselves sometimes, you know, after all these years,

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Speaker 1: we can still surprise each other. And that's what makes

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Speaker 1: the productive creative partnership. You know, what I was thinking

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Speaker 1: of doing is addressing something that is going to be

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Speaker 1: addressed further in the Patreon but sort of teasing it

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Speaker 1: I guess um. You know when I said we're the

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Speaker 1: only podcast that's a corporation, I was mostly trying to

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Speaker 1: make a kid. I was kidding. And so sometimes, you know,

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Speaker 1: teasing Patreon content feels a little a little bit real,

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Speaker 1: Like then, we really do think of ourselves as a corporation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but here's the thing, we really need to think of

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Speaker 1: ourselves as a corporation because let me tell you something.

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Speaker 1: Sales are are dwindling and we are not reaching the

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Speaker 1: metrics that we need for Q one or what Q

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Speaker 1: are we in. I think we're actually about to go

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Speaker 1: into Are we still in one? Our producers are telling

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Speaker 1: us we're in Q one. Yeah, yeah, we're in Q one.

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Speaker 1: I never can tell. This is how you know I'm

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Speaker 1: not a good businessman, because literally, in my mind, I

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Speaker 1: was thinking, are the quarters based on the school year

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Speaker 1: what world would they be based on the school year?

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Speaker 1: I was like, is Q one September through November? I

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Speaker 1: mean it should be based on the school year because

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Speaker 1: school then leads to business. I also think that, like one,

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Speaker 1: shut down. You can't do any work you shouldn't because

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Speaker 1: you need to be resting your mind and your body

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Speaker 1: in a pool. And then by the time it's fall,

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Speaker 1: then you have to get pigger getting ready for the holidays.

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Speaker 1: No matter what you celebrate, there's a lot of preparation

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Speaker 1: these to start happening. That's true for me. The cues

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Speaker 1: are like holiday season, summer, and then normal. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And you can sort of extend them enough where you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: And then it can be like April and you're like,

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Speaker 1: well it's almost a summer. So if you sort of

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Speaker 1: do it in a really strategic way, you only have

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Speaker 1: to work approximately like six weeks during the year. Honey.

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Speaker 1: That's a little high for me, because even when it's

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Speaker 1: a winter, it's like, well I need a winter. Oh right,

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Speaker 1: well you're hibernating, like naturally, I'm hibernating. And then the

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Speaker 1: summer I had to express myself recreationally. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So you're either hibernating, expressing yourself recreationally, celebrating a Christian

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Speaker 1: holiday yea. Or and then like maybe March I can

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Speaker 1: like put in some good work. No, because March is

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Speaker 1: when the weather is slowly getting better, so you're sort

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Speaker 1: is the only month you can really work. September is

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Speaker 1: the only month you can really work. I'll take it,

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Speaker 1: you know what. Those septembers sometimes the weather is still good,

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Speaker 1: You know, everyone is always going on vacation June through August.

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Speaker 1: a T shirt that says Mamma Mia. Totally, You're so right,

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Speaker 1: and our capitalist society is so toxic. There have been

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Speaker 1: if Labor Day is in September, then that's a bit

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Speaker 1: is your idea. That's how I respond to any email

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Speaker 1: I get in September. Yeah. So with all that being said,

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Speaker 1: what did you want to talk about? From the future? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So I want to talk about how we have a

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Speaker 1: Patreon and everyone should subscribe. It's really great extra content.

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Speaker 1: Every month, we do two extra episodes a month. One

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Speaker 1: is an Earnestness check in where we just chat about

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Speaker 1: our lives, and the other one is an episode of

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Speaker 1: our Straight Movie Club where each month we watch a

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Speaker 1: straight movie and discuss it, and this month our straight

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Speaker 1: movie is Top Gun Maverick. Well, George, I hope you're happy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not, and I'm actually holding back tears because the

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Speaker 1: fact that I used up my ninety seconds of work

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Speaker 1: work here, we don't need to work here. We don't

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Speaker 1: need to work here. By the way, subscribe to our Patreon. Well, obviously, Sam,

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Speaker 1: that was the whole joke. I mean, I have been

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Speaker 1: like Moonlight, thank you. Yeah, it's sort of the moonlight

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Speaker 1: we don't like you know, you're like are rich as fuck,

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Speaker 1: Like don't pretend like you're just some guy and also

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Speaker 1: we have today two incredible comedians. Please welcome Bill Murray

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Speaker 1: you guys are so cute. Thank you, Thank you. You

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Speaker 1: such an unexpected friendship and unexpected new sort of like

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Speaker 1: feel like that is a sign of intimacy or do

422
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: you think that's weirdly vampiric and actually toxic. I think

423
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: it's it's a sign of intimacy, but it can be

424
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 1: like this kind of performance, Yeah exactly. Maria Bamford joke

425
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: about it about that thing of like talking to a

426
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: couple and she's he doesn't like onions couple. Yeah exactly, Well,

427
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't like onions like doing that, And it's like, Henny,

428
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: when you are in a relationship, it is like that

429
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 1: you're like, he full to sleep so quickly, and I'm

430
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: always left there and you know what am I doing?

431
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm still awake this whole little performance. Yeah. I actually

432
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: did that with Sam recently, and I think and I

433
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: sort of overstepped where I was like, do you remember Sam?

434
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: We were recording with someone and I said something like, well,

435
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: Sam fetishizes when people smell bad, and Sam was like no,

436
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: I don't, like I don't fetishize, and I, just, like

437
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 1: I said, in the past, my mind it as much.

438
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, he's fully obsessed. He literally

439
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 1: like sticks his head in a toilet after someone has

440
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: taken a ship because he loves when things smell bad. Yeah. Right, Yeah,

441
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: that's tough because it's also like, you know, the person

442
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: that you're doing the story for, like there maybe they

443
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: didn't think of it, but like there might be a

444
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: reason they're not totally telling it totally, which is like

445
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,479
Speaker 1: a tricky dance. And sometimes you like give it a

446
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: little like nudge, like you're like, yeah, well that's like

447
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 1: you know you had in school, and the person's like yeah, yeah, yeah,

448
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: I actually hate it when someone does that. I'm like, Okay,

449
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: at this point this is not about like I was

450
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: trying to be helpful to you, but at this point

451
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: you're making me look bad. Yeah, but maybe it's like

452
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, you did the bad in the first place.

453
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: I have a really embarrassing example, George, mean, an embarrassing

454
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: example of this where I was in a professional setting

455
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: on Zoom where there were like five people I don't know,

456
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: and one person that was on there is like a

457
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,239
Speaker 1: close friend and the friend commented on like something on

458
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: my wall and was like, oh, is that new? Like

459
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: you got a painting? And I was like, oh, you've

460
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: seen that before, like trying to like be like we

461
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: are friends, and she had been to my apartment multiple times,

462
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: so it wasn't insane, but she was like, well, I've

463
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: never been in your bedroom and I was like yeah,

464
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: but she, like all the five people are like looking

465
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: at us right now, being like he's telling you it

466
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: looked like. I was so desperate for friends, like to

467
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: be like, well, we're besties, and it's like we actually are,

468
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: And it was so deeply embarrassing to be like, well,

469
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: you've seen that painting before and she was like, no,

470
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 1: I haven't. When the border of private and public is blurred,

471
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: and that like you are having half a private conversation

472
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: with that person and half doing a performance, like two

473
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: person performance for an audience, and you're like, oh, my god, boy, like,

474
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: can I just pull the curtain? Pull the curtain, pull

475
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: the curtain horrible and you're literally like you have to Okay.

476
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: I hate when you're dating someone and they're at your

477
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: apartment and you have roommates. I don't know if you

478
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: guys are living that lifestyle really, but you're not. It's

479
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: been a while. But try and get in the mindset, Charlie.

480
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: I know, and like you're you're in the kitchen or whatever,

481
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: and your roommate's like in the room next door, and

482
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: you have to be like and you're having the conversation

483
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: you were going to have. Oh my god. Everyone is

484
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: aware that there's like someone else there, and if you're

485
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: not talking to that person, it's better to just bring

486
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: them in because otherwise it's just like your thing is

487
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: on display. Like well, wait, in both ways like like

488
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: roommate to roommate and there's this third party like roommates roommate,

489
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: and I find that tolerable, right, I think roommates roommate

490
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: partner there it's like, you know, the partner can just

491
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: be there sometimes, you know, right, there's a lot of

492
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: lee way for a partner just like standing there you

493
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: a partner and a roommate is present, then you do

494
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: this performative like it's a disaster because it's like, oh,

495
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: this is our this is our big private thing. Yeah,

496
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: this is how we are behind closed doors and someone

497
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: else is there and it's like, oh my god, sends

498
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: a shutter down my spine and this fake like this

499
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: fake like oh my god. But you're like last time

500
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: when we were chopping and you said you got it

501
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,239
Speaker 1: and you cut yourself, and it's like this awareness at

502
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: a third party is like you're actually giving exposition a

503
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: little bit because person is there. Oh, that's so you

504
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: Like the last time we talked about this and you said, right,

505
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: it's like did your two siblings Mary and John call? Yeah.

506
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: I mean when I had roommates and was dating Misha,

507
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: it was like we would truly I feel like I

508
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: would just be like fully a cold heartless person when

509
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: we were in the public space because I was like no, no, no, no,

510
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: this is private, Like don't speak to me. A tour

511
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: in my room, like yeah, don't speak to me. He's

512
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: just like hey, and you're like, it's anything about us. Yeah.

513
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: It's so funny when your roommates how your room randomly

514
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: is this like ultra private space. Like even if you're

515
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 1: friends with your roommates, it's like you act like the

516
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: door to that room is like a whole other universe,

517
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: and like you have to just pretend, do you know

518
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, yeah, can I can I say

519
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: something about that? This this whole negotiation of like who

520
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: the audience is and who your conversation partners. It's just

521
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: another piece of proof that life is a cabaret, which

522
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: is something that I have always I'm not like making

523
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: a joke, I'm like, right, the idea that life is

524
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: a cabarets. Cabarets one of the most profound. It one

525
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: of the most profound statements ever uttered. Like literally is

526
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: a cabaret because at any given point there are performers

527
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: and there's an audience, and it keeps switching in a

528
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: way that feels very cabaret esque. Yeah, you know, it

529
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: happens all the time in like big group conversations. This

530
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: is the thing I noticed recently, Like whenever it's like, oh,

531
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: there's like six people talking, it's like no, there's like

532
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: two and a half people talking and three and a

533
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: half people listening. Is what's happening if everyone's talking. No, Actually,

534
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: it's like in a big group, it usually is just

535
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 1: like two people talking, one person kind of jumping in,

536
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: and everybody else just listening. Yeah, and you just literally

537
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: watch people's like eyes go back and forth. But like

538
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: it's literally they don't understand the listeners, and I'm afraid

539
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: of them. Okay, but here's the thing, end of the day,

540
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: I fear them desperately, right. I am so with you, Natalie.

541
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: I would never be a you know, my natural instinct

542
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: is not to be a listener. But the listeners of

543
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: this podcast might be shocked to hear that, but it's true.

544
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: But the thing is, sometimes and this is one of

545
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: the most unnatural and ungodly things that can happen, is

546
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: if you're not a natural listener, sometimes you will find

547
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: yourself in a conversation where you do have nothing to contribute,

548
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 1: and you just find yourself in the position of being

549
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: a listener. And then you feel so uncomfortable, and you

550
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: also try to overcompensate by making like weird sounds. Like

551
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: people will be talking to me like mmmm well but

552
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: to me, to me, I appreciate that, Like I'm like,

553
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: that's not just being a listener. You know what I

554
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: mean like, even if you've done this, say, like just

555
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: doing I think it's good, well doing doing a little

556
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: shoeop do is actually greatly appreciate it. Yeah, It's like

557
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: people are talking back and forth and you keep being like, OK, yes, yes, yeah,

558
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: I actually I think you might be a listener to

559
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: be honest, like I think you are. Sam. Yeah, I

560
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: actually love when people are like going kind of ham

561
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: on the conversation and I get to be like, you

562
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: guys are like needy, Like I get to pull back

563
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: and sort of be like, yeah, looking weird. Well, that's

564
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: exactly why I'm afraid of listeners, is because that's what

565
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: they're thinking. Yeah. Well, but also, Sam, you haven't I

566
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: don't know how much you know this, but you have

567
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: a very expressive phase when you're listening. Sure, especially when

568
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking in this beautiful camera and I'm saying, oh, well,

569
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: they're going to be seeing that. Wait, this was us

570
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: like like Natalie and I I feel like are not listeners,

571
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: and like in the first twelve minutes of the episode,

572
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: when we're not like allowed to talk and we're both

573
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: responding to things and doing like the biggest fucking mugging

574
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: of our lives. We're literally like like you're like, you're

575
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: like is it one or two? And we were both

576
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: like we're like holding up our fingers one and now

577
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: thing it's so loud, giving it our all. We wanted

578
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: to be in so bad. Yeah, well, it was really

579
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: kind of you to not I mean I took notes.

580
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: Actually I think I actually saw you actually seeing that,

581
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: and it was actually I was like, I wanted you

582
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: to address the notes that you took, I know, any

583
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: thoughts address the well, um, okay, I had something to

584
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: say about when at one point Sam was frozen or ye,

585
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: like and Georgia were like, Sam, you're frozen. And it's

586
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: like so funny to say you're frozen as one because

587
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: it's like, no, I'm not like some frozen. I'm like,

588
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm literally not frozen. Like I'm not say that. It's

589
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: like it's people on the phone or like you're breaking

590
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: up and I'm like you are, No, I'm not, I'm

591
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: not you're breaking up. You're breaking up right now. I

592
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: actually hear myself perfectly. You actually to me or the

593
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: one it literally is an attack, right, that was my

594
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: main one is actually logistical stuff. Okay, that's a good one. Oh,

595
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: I think the fiscal year starts in July. Fiscal year

596
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: July is true? True? Is that true? How do you

597
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: know that? Yeah? Because I used to work for a

598
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: year in fundraising for a nonprofit. Well, or that fiscal

599
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: year for them. I think I think that might be

600
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: because it's nonprofit vibes. They're like, we start in July. Yeah,

601
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: that is that? What Why would they start in July.

602
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: I can't get in that headspace because they're just like

603
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: allergic to making money and making That's why no social

604
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: problems will ever be solved by nonprofit. It's no offense,

605
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah. I'll love keep trying, keep trying, for sure.

606
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: I love that give it a shot, keep trying. But

607
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm will be giving my money to the federal government,

608
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: the army. Yeah, and I just did, and specifically the army.

609
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna write a little note

610
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: when I send my money that says to army. Yeah, yeah,

611
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: if at all possible, please send as much of this

612
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: money to foreign basis. Think this a helicopter that shoots

613
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: from all sides. Thank you. I think we have to

614
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: do our first segment. We literally do. And I'm saying

615
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: that apologetically, but also in an empowering way, because I

616
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: think that we are ready. I think you have a

617
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: thing to be sorry about. As you both know, our

618
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 1: first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment

619
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: we ask you a series of rapid fire questions to

620
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: gauge your familiarity with in complicity and straight culture. And

621
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: you have to say one thing or another thing, and

622
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: the one really as you can't ask any follow up questions?

623
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: Do you copy? Yeah? But can we say self? I

624
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: am sorry, that's a question. That's you, guys. I don't

625
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: like this ship where you don't tell me stuff I

626
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: want to know. I you know the fact that you

627
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: think that tension is not part of it, that it's

628
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: that it's unintentional, rather than the entire point of this

629
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: segment started already. Okay, all right, go ahead, I'm very

630
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: much a Yeah, okay, I have a question. Yeah, you

631
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: how we're going to do it logistically? Well, you asked

632
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: to figure that. I'm out. I can't answer that. Yeah, okay.

633
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: And and by the way, you're all already starting at

634
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: a you guys have like approximately negative three hundred points

635
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: at this point. Okay, with all the questions for every

636
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: point we lose, you take money away from a family, right, Yes,

637
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: that's a question, that's a question, no questions, Charlie. Yeah,

638
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: we'll just figure it out. Yeah, no problem. Okay, all right,

639
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: we'll start simple. Being a pioneering woman in stem or

640
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: being an arrogant and toxic man in the humanities. Oh

641
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: my god, m pioneering woman in stem. Being a pioneering

642
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: woman in stem. Yeah, because honestly, wow, I was feeling

643
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: like that sounds really hard, but then I'm realizing, like,

644
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, what if I am one, then I am one. Yeah,

645
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: so I don't have to worry about being one. Yeah,

646
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: that's the game. It is a tough choice because you're like,

647
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, of course a pioneering woman in STEM. Then

648
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: you're like, what if then she ends up founding a

649
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: company that has bad labor practices, But then an arrogant

650
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: and toxic man in the humanities could actually be a

651
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: huge issue, really bad. Well, he's actually going to be annoying,

652
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 1: which is one annoying and that's more immediate. Yeah, what's

653
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: worth exploiting your employees or being annoying? I would save

654
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,959
Speaker 1: the latter annoying. The moment you said that thing about

655
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: the toxic man in the humanities. I pictured like, you

656
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: know when a guy like sits down, sit down and

657
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: puts his let crosses his leg like this, and he

658
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: has like his sock showing a little bit of his hands.

659
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 1: Man Mike raises his hand in class and I want

660
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: to shoot him, I know, And you know what it

661
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: stems from. Actually, it legitimately stems from outdated gender stereotypes,

662
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: because you want the man to be strong and not weak,

663
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: and his exposed sock and like disgusting hairy leg is

664
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: you're like, why aren't you in the army? Why are

665
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: you studying philosophy? Sorry? Yeah, I guess a part of

666
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: it is like why are you like and maybe it's

667
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: a thing of like you're you're so fucking proud that

668
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: your books, aren't you? Yes, like clap clap for the

669
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: book ish guy, like what do you want a blowjob? Yeah?

670
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, yeah, actually, yeah, that sounds kind

671
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: of great. Um. I also think that particular leg crossing,

672
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: which is funny that we have eight of these and

673
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: we're stuck on the first one. But the particular style

674
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: of leg crossing, it is a sort of a no

675
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: homo leg crossing because there is a way across your

676
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: leg way that is like yeah, and it's like actually

677
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: more normal to me. It's the gender tension of being like, Okay,

678
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: you're doing this feminized thing, which is like being smart, right,

679
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: and so you're you're pushing against that by like being

680
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: like but actually look at my hairy leg and look

681
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: at my like wide open legs, you know what I mean. Yeah,

682
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna do it, just do it. Like,

683
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be like gay, like a gay little

684
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: guy doing like books, then that's fine. But be a

685
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: gay little buy and there's a gay guy right right,

686
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: and you can be straight and still be a gay

687
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: little guy, you know what I mean? Well, yeah, exactly.

688
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: You know reading, Yeah, if you're reading, congratulate, especially if

689
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: you're writing writing, come on, and it's like a right exactly, yeah,

690
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: oh my god. Writing it's like okay, like literally what

691
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: is that your diary? Right? It's like okay, there's like

692
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: little guys in your head that you're thinking about, like Okay,

693
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show up to a to a reading by

694
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: Carlo Noscard and be like okay, so you're giving carry Bradshaw.

695
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: He's at his computer, He's like, and I just can't help.

696
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: It's like I couldn't help, but wonder is the human condition?

697
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: A sleigh? Okay, Sam, what she was like? Okay, take

698
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: it away? Okay, the next one. Tripping balls or standing tall?

699
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: Tripping balls to me? Standing tall? Wow? Attending the big premiere,

700
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: or defending the term queer attending the big premiere. Attend

701
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: I want to go. Okay, I'm getting active, me to

702
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: the premiere. Don't make me talk about words. Okay, Okay,

703
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: all's quiet on the Western Front. Or let's get loud.

704
00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: Let's get that. We're gonna let's get loud. Yeah, gotta yeah, Okay.

705
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: Being problematic or being emblematic of larger systemic issues. Um

706
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: oh wow, I mean I'd rather be amblematic. Oh I'm

707
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: gonna choose problematic. Oh okay. Wow. Disagreement a little feistier.

708
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: Love the sinner, hate the sin, or love the skin

709
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: you're in with ola, Love the cinner, hate the sin.

710
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: I really try and live by that. Yeah, me too.

711
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: Love the center, hate the sin. You gotta love the center,

712
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: you gotta, Yeah, you hate the sin? But who do

713
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: you love? Center? Right center? Yeah, there's an amazing guy

714
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: in there and love the skin you're in. It's like,

715
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: don't tell me what to do. Yeah. Also, why why

716
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: the emphasis on skin? It seems a little arbitrary to

717
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: be ola. Oh because I guess they make skincare. Okay,

718
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: I guess I get that now. Um, so it seems random. Yeah,

719
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: oh right, that's their only thing. Okay, this one you

720
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: really have to pay attention getting. Oh my fly is open.

721
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: Oh oh, this can't be a video episode anymore. He

722
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: just canceled. It's been then. The camera has been zoomed

723
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: in on your fly this whole time, so it really

724
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: has ruined the foot. My pussy is like out, It's

725
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: like out right here, big pussy the whole time. I'm

726
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: like yeah, So basically all's part on the West. Okay,

727
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: would you guys say something or how would you if

728
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: you're if you're pus was out? Yeah, I mentioned to you.

729
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: You know, I think ultimately what would happen is maybe

730
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 1: ye would you would assume it probably we would assume

731
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: probably that you were making a joke, oh, that it

732
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: was intentional, and so we would sort of make a

733
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: bit out of it, right right, That's how much we

734
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: trust you as an artist, and we trust your intent

735
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: to all times. I feel like every single thing you've

736
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 1: ever done is with intent, with intent, and I know that,

737
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: and it is go ahead, keep playing the game. Getting

738
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: off your high horse or getting on a low dose

739
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: of vivance. Oh this is smart you guys, because they

740
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: are kind of in opposition, and it's a thing I'm

741
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: thinking about in both ways. Yeah, I will get off

742
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: my high horse, yeacause I love that song the Casey

743
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: Musgraves one. Yeah. Yeah, and Vivance made me like so

744
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 1: annoying and weird. If I have to be real with myself,

745
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: it's Vivans. Yeah. It's not what I want, but it

746
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: is true. So h yeah, true. Something that's okay. Um,

747
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: a free and fair election or a friend of a

748
00:40:52,440 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: friend connection. Oh um, I think free and fair election. Yeah,

749
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: okay too. I don't know. I just think it's important.

750
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah that's really nice. I think it matters. I think

751
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: it matters. Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes there's a lot of

752
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: pressure with the friend of the friends stuff exactly. Yeah,

753
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: i'd rather Oh how do you know? Yeah, I want

754
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: to do right? Oh yeah yeah, oh yeah she is

755
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: like that sometimes. Oh. The worst actually is when you

756
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: meet someone's friend who they like maybe they're not even there. Like,

757
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: say you've moved to a new city and it's like, oh,

758
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna set you up with my friend, like as

759
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: a friend, right, and you guys will get along so

760
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: so well, you're both so funny. And then you meet

761
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: the person and you're like, oh, no, you think I'm

762
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: this right. That's when you find out what they think

763
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: of you. Yeah, that's tough. Um, but that was the

764
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: entire game. Or how do you think, Oh, I was

765
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: gonna say m one hund twenty three doves out of

766
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: a thousand. Yeah, they showed utter disdain for the rules. Um,

767
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: they um disrespected our time and our listeners time. And

768
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: oh my god, I've I've actually never heard Sam give

769
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: someone that lowest score. Actually makes me feel really special.

770
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: I think that is literally the lowest score we've ever given.

771
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: And I'm really strong because I and again I really

772
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: want to yes and my comedy partner. But I really

773
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: was not expecting that, to be honest, I was having

774
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: a pretty good time while we were doing that, and

775
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: I thought you guys were like playing playing with it

776
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: and and and sort of right being me, we were

777
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: farming mostly trying our heart. Yeah, and I actually could,

778
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: I could really come. I could really see both of

779
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: you taking it seriously, and I sort of thought that

780
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: when you disagreed, When you disagreed, it was like fun

781
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: and pointed to almost made your partnership stronger that you

782
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: disagreed on. So we tried both things like sometimes we

783
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: just said and didn't exactly exactly. Yeah, yeah, I talked

784
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: about my pussy a lot. That wasn't so right. That's

785
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: like catching the snitch. It's like an automatic like fail.

786
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 1: You know what, though, I can sort of see okay,

787
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: So to me, I'm like, basically, the biggest strength and

788
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: the biggest weakness of your performance was that you did

789
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: so much. It was so diverse. You did every possible

790
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: thing you could do. You agreed, you disagreed, You were serious,

791
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: you were funny, you took it seriously, you took it

792
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: as a joke. You were like we went Billy rather,

793
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: and then you were intellectual, And so maybe I am

794
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: sort of like, wow you are. That all amounted to

795
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: a sort of a sense of playfulness in camp that

796
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: I responded to. But then for Sam, maybe Sam you

797
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: were like commit to one thing right, Well, I wanted to,

798
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to know who you were, you know,

799
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: I wanted through this game for you to tell us

800
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: who you are as a performer, as an artist, as

801
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: a person. And I felt like you were sort of

802
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: you know, saying like look at look at all the

803
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: different directions I could go in, and it was like, well,

804
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: you're not giving you're not getting personal with us, and

805
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: and uh, okay, that's what that game is really about. Yeah,

806
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: very confessional. I really appreciate the note. And if we

807
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: make it to the next round, to me, it's not

808
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: so To me, it's not so important like our score,

809
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: Like I know that we are just focused on like

810
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: improving and getting better and learning. And so I want

811
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: to promise that if we do, if you do advance

812
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 1: us to the next round, we will take that really

813
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: to heart and we're going to work hard. You know,

814
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: this means so much to us. So yeah, I appreciate that.

815
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because you say it means so much,

816
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: and yet you somehow think there's another round, despite the

817
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: fact that you've been on the podcast now three times. Well, Georgie,

818
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: I will, by the way, Yeah, yeah, if you guys

819
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: don't mind going is your fourth time on Charlie. Is

820
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: that true? Yeah? Yeah, well yeah, and also if you

821
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: include the episode O God, do you guys basically hate me?

822
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: You include the episodes where we just talk about Charlie

823
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: the entire episode, then it's probably the eighth Those are

824
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: my favorite episodes. Yeah, would be a whole game. I mean,

825
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: I love it. Wow. Yeah, So I trust that I'll

826
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: have another shot, right? Oh? I see, so you so

827
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: in fact I was wrong. You were right that, like,

828
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: there will be a next round in the sense that

829
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: next time you're on, which statistically will be in approximately

830
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: five weeks. Yeah, I won't be having to sit by

831
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: my email. Okay, whereas Natalie, this is sort of your

832
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: one chance I know, and I kind of remember blowing

833
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: it last time too. Can we do something that I

834
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: would do really well on? Yeah? Um, okay, rapid fire.

835
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: You guys asked me. You say the name of a

836
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: great and I tell you what age a kid? Isn't

837
00:45:53,719 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: that great? Whoa? Okay? Okay, this is great? Okay, seventh Okay, ten,

838
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, second second, seven, You're gonna be honest,

839
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: you got the second one wrong. I cannot believe you

840
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: got seventh grade right. And then couldn't add three? Get

841
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: that after after your big chance to redeem yourself, after

842
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: Sam gave you a literal f minus on your previous performance.

843
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: No high school, no high school? No high school? Are

844
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 1: you shar you you're gonna throw her high school? That's

845
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: fucked up. That's fucked up of you guys, obviously, no

846
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: high school? What the fuck are you guys thinking? Come on, No,

847
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: that's true. I'm sorry about that. All right. Well, it's

848
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: like my special that's my special skill. Clearly. Yeah, you're

849
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: really good, Like I can juggle and you hand them

850
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: three knives and they like murder people in his face, Like, um,

851
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm reading a really bad book. Sorry,

852
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: while I actually do need Yeah, we're the tenth grade.

853
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: Really tripped you up because you were on I'm really

854
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: excited to know there's murder in it, which so it

855
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: just made me think of it, and then I was thinking, like,

856
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: you guys are all quite bookish, actually, Sam, are you? Wow?

857
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: Drag him now, drag me. You know. This is what's

858
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: tough about being in a partnership is that people inherently

859
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: will make you opposite. Like Charlie's about to walk Charlie

860
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: Charlie has left the room. I'm going, okay, if we're

861
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: if it's gonna be wait, Sam, talk about talk about

862
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: this because it's so important. As soon as you're in

863
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: a partnership, people are like, okay, well, if one person's

864
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 1: thing is this, then that must mean the other person's

865
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 1: thing is the opposite of that. And there are like, yes,

866
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: of course we have different personalities and different but it's

867
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: it's a spectrum, you know, Like, yes, George, I would argue,

868
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: is more intellectual than I, but I'm still intellectual and

869
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: I still read books. And by the way, people talk

870
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: to me as though I'm a literal virgin, because the

871
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: joke is that like Sam is like more promisculous than I.

872
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: It's like I have had sex. Yeah, you sound like

873
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: you know what we were talking saying with Celeste last

874
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: night that was making us laugh is like it's like

875
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: virginity should reset more and basically like, unless you're currently

876
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: having sex, you are a virgin. I actually agree with

877
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 1: that completely. I agree with that maybe you'd left Natalie

878
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: bout that maybe even maybe even I would say maybe

879
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: even not, uh, you know, a sort of compromise would

880
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: be just like it resets every year. Yeah, and I'm

881
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: sort of think sexuality to what end? Well, I think

882
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: the government should get involved, and I think I think

883
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: you should have a different stamp on your license plate

884
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: and your driver's license too. Yeah, and you should be

885
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: legally required to put it in the census, you know. Yeah,

886
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: I put it in. I put it in my taxes.

887
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: You get more of a deduction, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

888
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: I get a bigger you get the sex deduction. It's

889
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: not much, it's not much break Yeah, it's like a

890
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: few couple of coffees. But it's a couple of coffees. Coffees. Look,

891
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: that makes a difference. Yet in this time, every little

892
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: bit helps. Oh my god, that would be so funny

893
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: if um, you know, it's getting closer to tax day,

894
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: so people are like, Okay, I literally have to have

895
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: sex thirty five times in the next two days. If

896
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to fucking make this cut off, It's like

897
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: I could be in the sex tax bracket I want

898
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: to be in. That is funny. That's a good like

899
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: hy A the Sopian novel George. Yeah, it's very sci

900
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: fi but pretty light. Um, I actually think it's inappropriate. Actually,

901
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: I think it's inappropriate for children. Actually, Natalie, and I

902
00:49:52,520 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 1: think why teenagers are having sex. There's that virgin talking. Yeah,

903
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: show us that driver's license, sweetie, I know how much

904
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: you're paying in taxes. Anyways, Sam, I didn't mean to

905
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: say that. I know. I'm sure you read books. I

906
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: don't read books, so I wasn't like judging you from

907
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: a different place. Natalie. You literally have been reading the

908
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: Da Vinci Code for two years. Yeah, Natalie's always like

909
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't read books, and then it's constantly reading a

910
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: book and has you have tons of books in your room? Well,

911
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: I have tons of books in my room, for sure,

912
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: but that's because I did a subscription, a book subscription,

913
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 1: but a book subscription. It was a disaster. I honestly

914
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: can't even talk about it. But the other thing is,

915
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: I you know what our version of that is? Yeah,

916
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: please no say it and I do our So our

917
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: thing of lego One's Bookish is Natalie's Jewish and I'm

918
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: half Jewish, And that's like our big kind of distinction

919
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: between the two of us. That must be really difficult

920
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: for you, because yeah, I imagine for you, Charlie, it's

921
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: like you then have to take on the role of

922
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: the non Jewish one and you're like, no, I I

923
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: am Jewish. Yeah, people like yeah, but I don't know, Oh,

924
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: I actually don't Jewish. Remember that one time where I

925
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: did that Jewish show and the guy was like, I'm

926
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: a listener to the podcast. I'm surprised to see you

927
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: here because I thought you weren't Jewish. And I was like,

928
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: that's just because next to Natalie. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, you

929
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: seem like I was like, I still get to be

930
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: Remember one time you were like, do I seem Jewish?

931
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: And I was like, well you start talking that you did?

932
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: Love it? Right? Yeah, yeah, totally because Charlie the stuff

933
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: charl said, stuff he likes to talk about and is Jewish, right,

934
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: but you kind of look like a you don't look

935
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: Jewish me? All right? You can't wait? Yeah. Also, guys,

936
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: what's happening is I'm listening to audiobooks. Okay, oh I

937
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: see that's valid. Okay, you know I'm going to come out.

938
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: I have only ever listened to one audio book in

939
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 1: my entire life. Can I guess what it was? You're

940
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: not gonna get up, but sure, Michelle Obama's memoir Harry Potter. No,

941
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: but it was non fiction and memoiristic. I have no

942
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: idea Tina Brown Vanity Fair Diaries. Yes, got it, Yep, yep,

943
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: that's what it was. Wow are you I just that's

944
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: why don't you guys go enough? Yeah? How about you

945
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: go be partners? Because it's so good. It's like famously

946
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: a memoir. It's like people were talking about it. I

947
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, it was a sort of classic. Like

948
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: people were talking about it and I had and it

949
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: is like I never really read. To be honest, I

950
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: don't read a lot of book length nonfiction, and I

951
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: also never really read memoir. And I was like, well,

952
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: what a great excuse. It's basically like what Natalie, we're

953
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: whispering at a party later, did you hear George? George

954
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: told me that he doesn't read a lot of book

955
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: length nonfiction, especially in the memoir spores. He's coming, shy, George,

956
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: So read any good um booklength nonfiction memoir stories. The

957
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 1: one thing that we tend not to talk about short

958
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean short, I mean short short story short stories stories. Okay,

959
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: we actually have to get into the topic, because Natalie

960
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: not to call you out toxically that you do have

961
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: a heart out in approximately twenty five minutes. Oh wow,

962
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: s that's crazy. Sorry, guys, have to go nanny. Well, no,

963
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: that when when we heard that you had a heart out,

964
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: I was like, well, we'll never go that long, we'll

965
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 1: never even possibly hit that time. And then of course

966
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: once we started, it's like, oh, that's really easy to

967
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: get to that. Yeah, how sleigh that It was like,

968
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: my people told your people that I had a heart out. Yeah,

969
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: that's actually movie star lifestyle. Yeah, that's very Murray. Yeah. Yeah.

970
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: The word hard out. Yeah, the word hard out. I

971
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: know when I hear the word heart out, I'm like, oh, rich,

972
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: you're rich, I'm hard out. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, well you're

973
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: out at three. Okay. So I would love it if

974
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: both of you, uh introduced your chosen topic, your topic

975
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 1: of choice, and then told us a little bit about

976
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: what is straight about it and why you chose it.

977
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: Tonight Okay, okay, tonight, this evening? Okay, Um, do you

978
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: want to say it at the same time? Yes, Okay,

979
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: we have to get the wording right. Okay, so it

980
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: text you Okay, they're mouthing into each other. Okay, that's right, Okay, Okay, Ready,

981
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: So our topic of what is straight is some some

982
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: though not all bars. Wow. Wow, so once again some

983
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: though not all bars, some though not all bars, not all.

984
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: We love our topic, yeah, like we love it. Charlie

985
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: came up with it and I laugh for like four days. Yeah,

986
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: it was amazing because basically, to me, it's like, you

987
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: like the way that you guys live Okay guys. By

988
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: you guys, you mean gay guys right, I'm not sure, Okay, sure,

989
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: but yeah it's seeming like that, like you love to

990
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: go to bars, right, yeah, pretty much. And I'm counting

991
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: myself in this too, like gay people are always going

992
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: to bars. Well you're a sort of you're sort of

993
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: a gay guy, and that you're a gay girl halfway there, Yeah,

994
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: I know, but things gay guy versus gay girl. Right, No, totally,

995
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: and it is and it comes up all the time.

996
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: Okay literally, Um, anyways, what am I saying? Basically, like

997
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: gay bars are such a big thing for gay people,

998
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: always going there, and even if the bars not like

999
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: gay expecially, it's like queerish or whatever, and so much

1000
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: so that you could actually forget that there are hundreds

1001
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: of thousands of bars in the globe that are only

1002
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: for straight people basically and configured in such a way

1003
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: that you would not even have fun there. Yeah, you

1004
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't even have fun. Yeah you guys. Yeah, I mean

1005
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: I'm testing my limits with that. I want you to

1006
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: paint a picture sort of what what is the bar

1007
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: you're thinking of? Like, I'm definitely seeing a pool table.

1008
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: I'm definitely seeing sports playing on the multiple TVs. Yeah right, Well,

1009
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: it's tricky because there is like a dikeness to a

1010
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: pool table so that I actually wouldn't even put Yeah,

1011
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: all right, you know, no pool table. I would say

1012
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: the girls. There's girls there, and there's guys there, okay, right,

1013
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: and they're together in the groups, like seven guys, seven girls,

1014
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: and they're not exactly intermingled, you know, there's like more

1015
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 1: guys on oneside and more girls on side, but they're

1016
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: still there together. The girls are wearing blue jeans and

1017
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 1: a black topka oh of course, and the of course,

1018
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 1: and the guys. I'm not sure what the guys are wearing.

1019
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 1: Do you think we're talking like Khaki's button down red

1020
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: sox cap Yeah, I actually do they do to me.

1021
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 1: I think it's like we're talking like happy hour in midtown. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1022
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: totally yeah, And hockey on the TV. Yeah, we're gonna

1023
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 1: have like a sport. I think it's also there's gonna

1024
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: be like like flirting maybe between men and women, which

1025
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: is something that you really wouldn't see at a gay bar,

1026
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: at a game bar, it's a little bit more unlikely.

1027
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: And to me, like, that's actually like when I've seen

1028
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: that maybe a queer space. You would, right, maybe a

1029
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: queer space, but you know, it's it's it's it's less prevalent.

1030
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: And that's one way I know that I'm at, you know,

1031
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: one of these straight bars is that I'm like, huh,

1032
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: what is going on here? Like why is that guy

1033
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: talking to that girl like that? Why is his hand

1034
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,959
Speaker 1: kind of like on the back of her chair, Why

1035
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: is she like tries forward sliding down right? Like, what's

1036
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: exactly going on here? And what often is happening in

1037
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: these kinds of spaces. Is it actually is like kind

1038
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: of a romantic or even sexual flirting between the genders?

1039
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: Um those two. Yeah, I think that's a good point.

1040
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: I would argue something that that brings up. I feel

1041
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 1: like even within the genders, there's like aggression towards each other,

1042
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: Like when I think the scariest parts of those bars,

1043
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: is feeling like men are mad at me. Like I'm like,

1044
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: you like think I'm either like gay, which bad, gay pejorative,

1045
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: or you think I'm like coming for the girls, And

1046
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: it's scarcity mindset in those places. Do you know what's

1047
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: even scarier? Get this when you feel like the girls

1048
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: are mad at you, because sometimes at a straight bar,

1049
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: you expect the girls to be desperate for a gay bff,

1050
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: and then you get there and you realize no, no,

1051
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: they are on the prowl and you are like you

1052
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: are truly like a little obstacle in a video game

1053
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: that they have to get past. Right, Yeah, move out

1054
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: of my way, Move out of my way. Get out

1055
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: of my way, Kyla Minogue, get out of my way.

1056
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes in those spaces, I'm like, um, why isn't anyone

1057
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: like looking at me? Yeah? This sucks yea like sexually,

1058
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like? Why am I

1059
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: being like looked up and down? Why are you being

1060
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: looked up and down? Where are you not? No? Why not?

1061
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: Why noting? Down? Right? No? It's not you basically couldn't

1062
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: feel more random. Yeah, Like when I'm in those spaces,

1063
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, I literally am not even here, like you

1064
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: go to get a drink and the bartender is like,

1065
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: are you sure, Like is now you don't register. You

1066
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: don't register as human. You're not recognized by the state

1067
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: as really a drinking individual. I feel like there's something

1068
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: that's like, um, you don't realize how much of having

1069
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: fun at a bar, even if you're only talking to

1070
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: your friends, is the like idea of potential sexual energy

1071
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: in the ambience, you know, even if you never act

1072
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: on it, you just go there for that. Yeah, And

1073
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: so when you go into a straight bar, like there's

1074
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: a real deadness of like I know exactly what's going

1075
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: to happen here. I'm gonna be with these people and

1076
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna leave, Like there's no secret surprise coming up?

1077
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: Can I Can I say something that's nice about it? Actually,

1078
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: like there is this invisibility right and that actually can

1079
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: be it can be sometimes the most private place in

1080
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: the world to have a conversation with like another right,

1081
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: Like I've gone I've actually lately anonymous when I've had

1082
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: like moments, I'm like, I really need to be like

1083
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,919
Speaker 1: in the most private possible of spaces. Right now, We're

1084
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: gonna find like a sports bar, and we're just gonna

1085
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: be two gay guys in the corner. Then people it's

1086
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: almost like people are kind of like, I don't even

1087
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: I can't even see that. Yeah, and you and you

1088
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: don't get basically in witness protection, right something. I one

1089
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: time was at a very very straight bar with a

1090
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: gay man and we hooked up in the bathroom and

1091
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: then came out and there was a line around the

1092
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: bathroom because we had not really we had not realized

1093
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: that it was a single there was a single stall.

1094
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: We thought there were also urinals, and so we just

1095
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: sort of love we got out and then just had

1096
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: to like do a little head nod, like a straight

1097
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: head nod at all this straight vent that we're lined up,

1098
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: and then I will enter. I will end the story

1099
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: with this. You better believe. I then realized I forgot

1100
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: my glasses in the stall and had to go back

1101
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: and get them. Oh no, did you have to wait

1102
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: on the whole line again? Yeah? Does that sound like

1103
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: virgin behavior to you? Does that sound like virgin behavior too?

1104
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: I'm feeling schooled as far. But I'll say this, like

1105
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: the fact that I mean the fact that it happened

1106
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: in a straight space infinitely hotter than if it was

1107
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: at a gay bar, right for sure. Well, it is

1108
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: the thing of if you're hooking up with another gay

1109
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: guy at a gay bar, it's like right, like right

1110
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: on schedule, you know what I mean. It's like, Okay,

1111
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: a straight age student, you're doing what you're supposed to do. Fine,

1112
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: you can right. You know. What's transgressive in a gay

1113
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: bar is to be like lonely as fuck. Yes, to

1114
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: be sad and like kind of feeling weird. Yeah, and

1115
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: that can be one of the horniest possible things. You're

1116
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,479
Speaker 1: just like rock hard and lonely, rock hard and lonely

1117
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: at a gay bar, literally alone and that Yeah, rock

1118
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: hard and lonely. Rock Hard and lonely at a gay

1119
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: bar is the title of Lana del Ray's new album,

1120
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: It's so Beautiful God, I was lonely in the gay bar.

1121
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: I want to do it. I also think both spaces

1122
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: there's drinking we can agree on, no matter culturally where

1123
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: you stand. There's drinking, right, and often heavy drinking. I

1124
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: think in both spaces it's sort of indulgent and people

1125
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: are being a bit bad. But for some reason, when

1126
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm in the gay bar and people are being bad

1127
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: and sort of if they do shots, I'm like, how celebratory,

1128
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: like doing shots in the face of so much, Like

1129
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: like you were just a boy your parents and you're

1130
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: doing a shot at a bar in New York City.

1131
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: And then when it's like a guy doing a shot

1132
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: at a straight bar, I'm like, are you need to

1133
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: find help? Like you need to turn your life around

1134
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: you more, you need a family, and you need to

1135
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: show some responsibility, and honestly, you need to quit drinking.

1136
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if straight guy should be drinking. Do

1137
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: we need them to get like super loose and right?

1138
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: I actually do think strake, I need to stop drinking.

1139
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: Across the board, like, what are the best case scenario

1140
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: of a straight guys drinking? He falls asleep? I literally,

1141
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: I think yeah, or he like becomes he opens a brewery. Yeah,

1142
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: that's the best case. Yeah, I guess that's true. The

1143
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: best case for me is that the guy gets drunk

1144
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: and then is like, oh wait, actually do you want

1145
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: to touch this man's back? Yeah, I'm getting yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1146
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,439
Speaker 1: I guess the best case scenario is literally that guy

1147
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: hoops up with Sam. Yeah. If you ban all straight

1148
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: guys drinking, then you know, you might never have to

1149
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: miss out on some of that kind of back touching.

1150
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah right, Yeah it's so hard some of them,

1151
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,919
Speaker 1: like to touch your back might be worth it. Yeah,

1152
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: this is why policy is so tricky. Yeah. Yeah, you're

1153
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: so right. And I actually have another point, which is

1154
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: another thing that is the best case scenario is the

1155
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: following they buy everyone around. Who oh, I love when

1156
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: they do that, because that's a classic drunk strake I

1157
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: think to do, and it's sort of like a healthy

1158
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,919
Speaker 1: way to assert one's masculinity is to be like I'm

1159
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: daddy and then buy everyone around. That's right, Yeah, I

1160
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: think that's right. I'm playing with the idea of I'm

1161
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: playing with the idea of exploring that as a as

1162
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: a mode like buying around around, taking that culture from

1163
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: the straight bar, like I've seen it, I know it,

1164
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: and then like it. What would it be like to

1165
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: sort of express masculinity like that. I'm curious about that,

1166
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: so just look out. I feel like it's very gay

1167
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: to like expressing masculinity through get through um not gifts,

1168
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: but through uh what's the word. I'm buying everyone around? Yeah,

1169
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: but like um not yeah, yeah, providing through magnanimity maybe

1170
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: is what I'm looking for. Charlie. Yeah, yeah, why Charlie,

1171
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: isn't that with Charlie said yes, yeah yeah. And it's

1172
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: also like it is quite literally as like yeah, I

1173
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: was like, oh, so Charlie smarter than everyone. Okay, so

1174
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: Charlie smarter than there sent here to break you. It's

1175
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: also I start with like you don't read books, and

1176
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: then like George ignorsy for Darlie, and then the virgin

1177
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: stuff asserting masculinity through the redistribution of wealth. Yeah, yeah, totally,

1178
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: there you go. It could be amazing. So I'm not

1179
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: saying with like some but not some though not all bars.

1180
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: It's like it's not like we have nothing to learn,

1181
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like there's pieces of

1182
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: the because you know what else actually can be a thing.

1183
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: Maybe it's more of a thing in a straight coated

1184
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: bar is like an activity. Maybe that's not always true.

1185
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: Darts like a dart, Like I am seeing a dart

1186
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: in that kind of space. So again I do think

1187
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: that like lesbian bars kind of have that, right, but

1188
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: do you think more seating. I actually think straight bars

1189
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: actually are kind of seating oriented. A long time gay

1190
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: bars could actually learn to have some more seating, right that,

1191
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: And because then also especially if you can like pull

1192
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: the chairs away when it's like ten pm and it's

1193
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: time to dance, right, yeah, exactly. If you have a

1194
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: closet for your chairs, you're a king. Basically you get

1195
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: two spaces for one. You're literally royalty, right exactly. Well,

1196
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: what about the thing from straight bars where you like

1197
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: send drinks to another table? What about the thing from

1198
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: straight bars where you send drinks to another table? Is

1199
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: an iconic I don't know. That happened to me once

1200
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: at a straight bar to my friend, not to me.

1201
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: It was actually my birst. Okay, I want to say similar,

1202
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: similar to Charlie, that's actually something I want to reappropriate

1203
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: at gay Yeah. I like that sometimes, Yes, I want

1204
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: to do it, you know, romantically if I feel so inclined.

1205
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 1: But sometimes I want to do it like as a

1206
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: gag to a like a yeah, like a hot girly

1207
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: that is like clearly having the time of her life,

1208
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: and I want to be like you go, yeah, totally

1209
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: love that. Okay, so it's up to us. Yeah, maybe

1210
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: straight customs at bars are better than gay ones. I'm

1211
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: sort of now realizing I know, and the issue is

1212
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: just the people that are enacting them. No, well there's

1213
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: some there are some community building things that they have

1214
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: that we could learn from, of course. Yeah, well they've

1215
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: had more time in the sun to develop. You know,

1216
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: what gay bars do sometimes that straight bars could do

1217
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: is play gay porn on the TVs. Yeah. I think

1218
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: that would be a fun twist. That's a really good point.

1219
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: That's a really good point. I actually do think I

1220
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: would love if straight bars were more explicit sometimes with

1221
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: the sexual energy. Like I actually think one of the

1222
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: cool things that gay bars can have is like fully

1223
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: like an underwear party or like you know, and I

1224
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: actually think if a straight bar was like this night,

1225
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna be playing straight porn on the TVs. Yeah yeah,

1226
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: but that's actually scary. It has to be gay porn,

1227
01:07:53,440 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: you'n literally, so has to be gay porn. Oh that's okay,

1228
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: really okay, I'm oping, I'm hoping. What if it's like

1229
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: really soft corn, Like what if it's like people making out?

1230
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that is right, Oh my god,

1231
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: yeah to me, Yeah, that would be really fun. I

1232
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: still prefer just gay porn. Just to be clear, asia

1233
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: play straight porn at the gay bar. I don't think

1234
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: you can play straight porn if there are guys there

1235
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: who are straight, honestly, like, yeah, they'll start, they just king,

1236
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 1: they get so weird about it. Yeah, and why I

1237
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 1: messed with perfection gay porn. It is great in a

1238
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: bar context, doesn't matter if the bars gay or straight. Yeah, right,

1239
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: that's true. That's true. Okay. Another thing I'm sort of

1240
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: realizing as we are listing these different things that happen

1241
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 1: at gay bars versus straight bars, is the main difference

1242
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: is that straight bars have always been quote unquote safe space,

1243
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: like they are meant to be enjoyed, whereas gay bars

1244
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: are inherently secretive, stealth, underground, you know. And and because

1245
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 1: of that then become more sites of like erotic charge

1246
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: because people feel like they're like living a secret life.

1247
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 1: And that even in cities like New York or even

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, where in fact it is often safe to

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Speaker 1: be a gay person, still that legacy remains. And you

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Speaker 1: go into a bar and you're like, well, who knows

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Speaker 1: if we'll live to see the end of this night, right,

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Speaker 1: let's celebrate the erotic charge of that. Let's celebrate Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And so we have to celebrate by putting gay porn

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01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: on the televisions. I want to go to a bar. Yeah,

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01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: we should go to a barn. Yeah. Yeah. I wish

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01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: it were like Thursday that it was like the end

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Speaker 1: of the day and there was like a big party

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01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, are you guys going to

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01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: that thing later? Oh? Oh that would be so could

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Speaker 1: you imagine if we were all like or like, you

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01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: guys are going and it was like, yeah, oh, should

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01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 1: we host something tonight that has not happened in a while.

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01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: We have a yeah, like something we should We should

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Speaker 1: have some host party, a djins to party to benefit,

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01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: to benefit a charity. Yeah, okay, and we should play

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Speaker 1: gay porn in it. Yeah party. Yeah. And you know

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01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: what we should do. We should also borrow the thing

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01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 1: from straight bars of having like board games available. So

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Speaker 1: it's going to very party that has gay porn on

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01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: the TVs, but it's a board games gay porn board

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01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: game party. Yeah, so you're you're playing a porn game,

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01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: gay porn game party, a pard game. So it's you

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01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: can play like Ticket to Ride, there's Katan, you know,

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01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 1: there's gonna be scrabble. What is the end game of this.

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Speaker 1: This is a party where you can play Katon, there's

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01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: gay porn playing and it's for charity. Like it does

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01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: seem like a hodgepodge of things, No, it doesn't. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it should be for charity. You don't,

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01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: Charlie for charity, Charlie have to say from well, we

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01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 1: could donate it, but maybe to like a company, Yeah, Amazonmamazon,

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01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: we should donate it to Amazon. Yeah. Yeah, maybe we

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01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: could don'tate that to the military with our taxes because

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01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: we don't want to have like a savior complex. Yeah. Yeah, yes,

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01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: someone learns about having a savior complex and they're like,

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01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so sorry. I'll just give it

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01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: to Amazon. Yeah. They were raising money for a charity

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01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: and they were like, oh my god, I completely did

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01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: not recognize that I was doing being savior complex. I'll

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01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: just give it. Um. Wait, should we do our final segment?

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01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean it's like, literally, do you guys

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01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: have any final words? Like Natalie has to like go, yeah,

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01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: it's fun. Okay, I forgot there was another segment. Any

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01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 1: final thought. Finally have to like leave, Okay, fine, I

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01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: guess we won't too. Final five. Oh you guys shall

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01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: come to Nanny with me. George, will you come today? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm here. You're coming to my neighborhood. You go

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01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: to the playground. I'm going to text you. Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 1: Okay always. Well, you know, after this, Sam and I

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01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: have to record a Patreon episode about top Gun, Machine

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01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: Gun Kelly or whatever it's called. Her final thoughts are

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01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: that there are some crucial differences in types of bar,

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01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: and you might think, if you're kind of like a

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01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: gay person, you might think that every bar is a

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01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: gay bar, and we're here to tell you that actually

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01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: it's not really like that, and there are many it's not.

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01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: There are many bars that actually do have a pretty

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01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: straight vibe despite what your person. It's good. It's good,

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01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 1: and it keeps them busy, keeps them busy. Yeah, gotta

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01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: do something, engaged, you gotta do something. Um okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: our final segment is called shout Outs, and in this

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01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: segment we pay them to the classic street tradition of

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01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: the radio shout out, but about anything that we are

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01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: currently enjoying. Um. So, you know, imagine two thousand and one,

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01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: you're at TRL and Times Square shouting out to your

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01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: squad back home about anything that you enjoy. Um, I

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01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: actually have one and I can go first. Please please

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01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 1: do it. It's actually extremely basic and I don't care.

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Speaker 1: So what is up everyone around the globe? Who? I

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01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: want to give a huge shout out to that little

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Speaker 1: little precipitation called snow. That's right, baby, it's snowed in

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01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: NY City. The miracle came on February twenty seventh, I

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01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 1: want to say, and just in the nick of time,

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01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 1: it felt so nice to watch snow fall. Are you

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01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: kidding me? Suddenly winter had a reason for existing. This

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01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: whole time, I'd been like, what's the point of the season,

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01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 1: Just to be like gray and dead and look at

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01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: ugly ass trees and feel nothing but a relative coldness

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01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: and just wait for spring and summer. No, when it

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01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 1: snows there's a reason. There's a reason you own boots, honey.

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01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 1: When it snows, there's a reason for your coat and

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01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 1: your hat and your gloves. I was so happy to

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Speaker 1: feel some winter charm and to see that the community

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Speaker 1: of Ny City was coming together to take their little

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Speaker 1: snow pictures. We are one city, and we stand in

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Speaker 1: the snow. Xoxo, Sam who We are one city and

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01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: we stand in the snow. We are one city. That's amazing. Sam. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's up fashion girls, glamour girls, girls who walk the

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Speaker 1: runways in fashion weeks all over this nation, world and

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Speaker 1: globe and universe and galaxy. I want to give a

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Speaker 1: shout out to very tepidly bringing back the lockdown era

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01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: practice of Zoom drinks. But only listen to me, only

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01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: with people who live in different cities. We threw the

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01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 1: baby out with the bath water when we stopped doing

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01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: it because of course it's triggering. Of course it brings

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01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: back bad memories. Of course, now we associate Zoom with

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Speaker 1: a business meeting. But guess what. Last night I had

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01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: a Zoom happy hour with my friends Adam and Carl,

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01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: who live in DC, and we had a two hour conversation.

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01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 1: It was so much fun. We were drinking all night

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01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: and we were just sitting on our couch having a drink.

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01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: And guess what. Yes, I would love to see them

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01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: in a real bar, maybe a straight bar or even

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01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: a gay bar, but I can't because they live where DC.

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01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: So what am I gonna do? Not talk to them,

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01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: not maintain my friendships, not invest in my community, even

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01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: though it doesn't live in the same city as I do. No,

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01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: I am actually going to bite the bullet and I'm

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01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 1: going to get over my fear of zoo and have

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01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: zoom drinks with my friends who live in DC. And

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01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:07,919
Speaker 1: you can't too. Who. I love that. Actually, that's really powerful.

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01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: It was like, even though I was so excited to

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01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: see them, there was a part of me that was like,

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01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 1: oh no, this is gonna be like it's you're gonna

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01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 1: are gonna have that lockdown feeling, you know what I mean?

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01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: But you didn't, you know, I mean, you did it

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01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 1: in the beginning You're like, oh god, this is a

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01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 1: zoom and then you sort of are like, oh wait,

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01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking to my my best friend. Yeah, Natalie is gone. Okay,

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01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 1: Oh she's still there. You just just can't see your video.

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01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: But do you want to do your shout out in

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01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,560
Speaker 1: case you have to go? Yeah, yeah, I want to

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01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: shout out my little lunch I just made you guys.

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01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 1: It was too good to believe. Little Quenoa Chili Crisp.

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01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: You can hear me. You are going in and out,

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01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: why you know, Charlie, tell them what I made you.

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01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: That's my shout out. Okay, So Natalie shout out is

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01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 1: to the lunch that she made for both of us,

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01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: which was quenoa with like pickled cabbage and it was

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01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: the other vegetable. It was like purple cabbage, Harry rats.

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01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: And it was really it was really yummy and so quick.

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01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: She threw it together so effortless. I love that. Wow,

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01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: I love that, Natalie. Well, thank you, Natalie. Was really

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01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: funny to hear only parts of your shout out and

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01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: just hear like the word quene wa. Yeah, well we

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01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: heard Natalie, and this is not actually gonna come across

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01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: the recording, but what we heard was sort of like

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01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 1: my shot Keena, Keena is back, you guys. It was

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01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: for yeah, okay, okay, Charlie, you're gonna do yours really quick.

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01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: You have two minutes. Yeah. My shout out is to

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01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: acclaim Pulitzer Prize winning author Tony Morrison because oh wow,

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01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 1: shout out check out out to her, because I'm reading Underrated.

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01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 1: She's so breaking good, you guys. I'm reading her book Jazz,

1393
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 1: and it's about a love triangle in a place she

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01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: likes to call New York City and I like to

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01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: call it that too. Is so astute and amazing and

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01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 1: Every single page is just crackling, and it's so amazing

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01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 1: to read a book that's about the place that you're

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01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 1: reading it. Um, because I'm I'm she's describing buildings. Boom,

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01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm looking up there right there, and she is dead off. Um.

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01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: So shout out to Tony Morrison's because if you haven't

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01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: read Tony Morrison, and specifically her book Jazz, you're missing out.

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01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 1: Jazz is a real deep cut. Yeah. Well you know

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01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 1: that's why I thought it deserved, you know, some extension. No, truly,

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01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: it's very much her uh Joanne you guys who Wow, folks, Well,

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01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: thanks so much for doing the pause. This has been

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01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 1: so fun, guys, incredible. Listen to Exploration Live. Thanks, We're

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01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: all podcasts are sold. Thank you guy. Love yak, bye

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Speaker 1: bye