WEBVTT - Week of Action to Stop Cop City: Full Compilation

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<v Speaker 1>It's a warm spring afternoon in Atlanta, Georgia. You and

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<v Speaker 1>some of your friends are dancing in the sunlight at

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<v Speaker 1>a music festival in South Atlanta. It's day two of

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<v Speaker 1>the South River Music Festival. Last night, you stayed up

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<v Speaker 1>till three am, alternating between moshing in the pit and

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<v Speaker 1>laying down on a blanket looking up at the night sky,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to see stars through the light pollution. After you

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<v Speaker 1>had your fill of DM you called it a night

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<v Speaker 1>and hastily set up a tent in the forest near

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<v Speaker 1>the edge of the festival. You tried to sleep as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you could, but soon enough the hustle and

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<v Speaker 1>bustle around the forest beckoned you out of your tent.

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<v Speaker 1>As you mosed on over back to the music festival,

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<v Speaker 1>immediately something new caught your eye, a large, multi colored

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<v Speaker 1>inflatable bouncy castle sitting right in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>field with a big stopcop City banner hung along the side.

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<v Speaker 1>After you fully woke up, you grabbed a free breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>burrito and took a walk through the winding forest. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that you've finished your breakfast, you're back at the far

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<v Speaker 1>end of the open field in front of the stage,

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<v Speaker 1>where there's been live music playing for the past few hours.

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<v Speaker 1>You and some friends briefly try a stint in the

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<v Speaker 1>bouncy castle, but quickly return to the festival stage as

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<v Speaker 1>you tire out much faster than you expected. As the

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<v Speaker 1>sun is barely starting to set around six pm, suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>you notice the faint scream of police sirens piercing through

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<v Speaker 1>the music being blasted from on stage. You stand up

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<v Speaker 1>as the sirens get louder and closer, until a burst

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<v Speaker 1>of police cars zoom past the music festival at high speed.

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<v Speaker 1>A short sigh of relief is followed by confusion where

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<v Speaker 1>else would a whole bunch of police cars be going,

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<v Speaker 1>But as nothing seems to come of it, everyone starts

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<v Speaker 1>to relax and begin enjoying music once again with the

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<v Speaker 1>apparent absence of police. There's a if you brief moments

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<v Speaker 1>of peace at the festival as things continue as scheduled,

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<v Speaker 1>except you can't help but notice the police helicopter is

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<v Speaker 1>flying across the forest toward the festival. As you take

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<v Speaker 1>note of the chopper, you receive a signal message from

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<v Speaker 1>a friend quote cops have entered the parking lot with

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<v Speaker 1>AR fifteen's. You lift up your mask and start running

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<v Speaker 1>across the field to the parking lot at Willawnee People's Park.

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<v Speaker 1>But before you even make it halfway across, you notice

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<v Speaker 1>up ahead a few dozen police officers sprinting into the

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<v Speaker 1>open field from the festival side entrance. As the sun

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<v Speaker 1>is setting, a group of cops run past the bouncy

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<v Speaker 1>house and start chasing down seemingly random concert goers and

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<v Speaker 1>loan stragglers. One officer points his rifle at the bouncy

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<v Speaker 1>house as another turns off the generator. You group up

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<v Speaker 1>with other people from the festival in hopes of working

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<v Speaker 1>together to incentivize police to leave the area. As you

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<v Speaker 1>get closer, the cops start getting more aggressive. Just up ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>a bit further into the woods, close to where you

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<v Speaker 1>set up your tent, you hear some loud bangs and

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<v Speaker 1>see a flash of bright light. First, you assume it's

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<v Speaker 1>just fireworks being used to hold off the cops, until

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<v Speaker 1>you start coughing and see the faint plume of tear

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<v Speaker 1>gas seeping in from the forest. You're forced to fall

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<v Speaker 1>back to the festival and regroup with people by the

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<v Speaker 1>stage where music is still being played. As you're running back,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see dozens of people in zip ti cuffs,

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<v Speaker 1>many still pinned to the ground, still coughing from the gas.

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<v Speaker 1>You make your way back to where you are washing

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<v Speaker 1>the previous night. The crowd of festivalgoers tightens up as

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<v Speaker 1>riot vans and a bear cat pull into the field

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<v Speaker 1>next to the deflated bouncy castle. Police swat teams surround

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<v Speaker 1>the South River Music Festival and creep towards the stage,

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<v Speaker 1>threatening to charge hundreds of people with domestic terrorism. Hanging

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<v Speaker 1>on the backdrop of the stage is a massive banner

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<v Speaker 1>that reads, quote in the eyes of the state, all

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<v Speaker 1>who resist white supremacy, colonialism, environmental racism, gentrification, and police

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<v Speaker 1>militarization are domestic terrorists unquote. That was the evening of Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>March fifth, twenty twenty three. This is it could happen here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Garrison Davis. I arrived in Atlanta a few days

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<v Speaker 1>prior in preparation for the March Week of Action to

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<v Speaker 1>defend the Atlanta Forest and stop cop City. This is

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<v Speaker 1>part one of a four part series covering this week

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<v Speaker 1>of action, featuring interviews, reportbacks, and analysis from both participants

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<v Speaker 1>and observers like myself. This four part series will be

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<v Speaker 1>a follow up of sorts to the four stop Coop

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<v Speaker 1>City episodes we put together last January following the death

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<v Speaker 1>of forest defender Tortigita at the hands of the Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>State Patrol, as well as building off my previous year

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<v Speaker 1>of work covering the movement to defend the Atlanta Forest.

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<v Speaker 1>But in case you're new or need a refresher, For

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<v Speaker 1>over two years now, activists and community members have been

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<v Speaker 1>in a fight to save the Wallani Forest from being

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<v Speaker 1>turned into a massive ninety million dollar police training facility

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<v Speaker 1>stretching across one hundred and seventy acres, with plans to

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<v Speaker 1>include a mock city for urban combat training to quell

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<v Speaker 1>civil descent. The cop City project is being led by

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta Police Foundation, one of the most powerful police

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<v Speaker 1>lobbying groups in the country. Following seventeen hours of public comment,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy percent of which was against the facility, the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>City Council voted to approve the project's lease in September

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty one, despite months of protests and community organizing.

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<v Speaker 1>Later that fall, people started occupying and camping out in

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<v Speaker 1>the Wallani Forest to maintain a physical presence in the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>In hopes of preventing or delaying construction. Infrastructure to support

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<v Speaker 1>long time ter encampments grew over the next year, with

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<v Speaker 1>forest defenders erecting treehouses, road blockades, and making the forest

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<v Speaker 1>a place that people could actually live in with outdoor kitchens,

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<v Speaker 1>community gardens, and places to sleep, whether that be up

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<v Speaker 1>in a tree or in a tent. For a while

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed to be working. Throughout twenty twenty two, construction

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<v Speaker 1>continued to stall. Almost every time cops and workers came

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<v Speaker 1>in to start cutting trees, they were met with resistance.

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<v Speaker 1>Construction equipment left around the forest was routinely sabotaged, and

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<v Speaker 1>last year a tertiary targeting campaign resulted in the general

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<v Speaker 1>contractor for a cop City Reeves Young construction, to drop

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<v Speaker 1>out of the project. Police enacted multiple raids on the

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<v Speaker 1>forest in twenty twenty two, trying to flush out any

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<v Speaker 1>forest defenders camping out in the woods and tear down

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<v Speaker 1>encampment infrastructure, but the occupation was generally able to bounce

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<v Speaker 1>back pretty quick. As the movement to stop cop City

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<v Speaker 1>was seemingly winning, police intensified their repression as a series

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<v Speaker 1>of raids in December of last year decimated much of

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<v Speaker 1>the infrastructure that was built up over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>that year and left six people with domestic terrorism charges.

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<v Speaker 1>But things got worse just a month later. In January

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty three, multiple police agencies engaged in a

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<v Speaker 1>mass raid of the Wallani Forest, destroying all remaining campsites.

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<v Speaker 1>About an hour into the January eighteenth raid, the Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>State Patrol swat team killed a twenty six year old

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<v Speaker 1>forest defender, Manuel Tehran, also known by their forest name Tortigita.

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<v Speaker 1>Decab County's autopsy found at least fifty seven gunshot wounds

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<v Speaker 1>from multiple officers. We'll talk more about the results from

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<v Speaker 1>various autopsies in a later episode, but just a few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, tort would have turned twenty seven. The other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the Defend the Forest movement is focused on

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<v Speaker 1>a smaller section of the Wallani Forest just east of

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<v Speaker 1>Entrenchment Creek. Initially in hopes of expanding his movie studios,

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<v Speaker 1>The now former own of Blackhall Studios, Ryan Millsap, has

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<v Speaker 1>been trying to gain control of forty acres of public

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<v Speaker 1>parkland through a shady landswap deal with Decap County that's

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<v Speaker 1>currently subject to legal disputes. The slate of land in

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<v Speaker 1>question contains the popular meeting spot in the forest known

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<v Speaker 1>as the Living Room, which acts as a sort of

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<v Speaker 1>central hub, as well as what's referred to as Wilawni

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<v Speaker 1>People's Park, where the Park gazebe used to be before

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Millsap demolished it, later ripping out all of the

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<v Speaker 1>grass and sidewalks in a once again legally questionable move.

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<v Speaker 1>In January, Wilani People's Park also became home to the

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<v Speaker 1>vigil site for Tortigita all at Let Matt from the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlantic Community Press Collective explain the other happenings in the

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<v Speaker 1>woods since January.

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<v Speaker 2>They got their land disturbance permit in late January, and

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<v Speaker 2>the first phase of the land disturbance permit only allows

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<v Speaker 2>for soil erosion control work, So to this point, essentially

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<v Speaker 2>what they've done is they've cut some paths into the

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<v Speaker 2>forest into the proposed site, and then around the exterior

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<v Speaker 2>of the site they've clear cut a line in order

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<v Speaker 2>to install silt fencing, so there isn't a large amount

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<v Speaker 2>of infrastructure. They're not allowed to do a large amount

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<v Speaker 2>of disturbance right now. They're in like the pre construction

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<v Speaker 2>phase right now. So they started in February and they

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<v Speaker 2>did a lot of work very quickly. They installed a

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<v Speaker 2>privacy fence, so you can't really see what's going on,

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<v Speaker 2>so our general understanding of it, like comes from drone footage.

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<v Speaker 2>It actually slowed down a couple weeks later, and from

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<v Speaker 2>what I understand, they began to pull some construction equipment out,

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<v Speaker 2>probably not wanting to leave, you know, a target for

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<v Speaker 2>shall we say, any sort of spicy activities.

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<v Speaker 1>But not all of their construction equipment was removed, As

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<v Speaker 1>everyone would soon find out, the deadly Jenny left the

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<v Speaker 1>community in the morning and unsure of how the fight

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<v Speaker 1>to stop copp City would evolve. With the use of

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<v Speaker 1>lethal force and the loss of a friend, the Forest

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<v Speaker 1>Defender's semi permanent occupation of the Wallani Forest ended after

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<v Speaker 1>that raid, but the fight was far from over. About

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<v Speaker 1>a month after the January raid, local Atlantans put out

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<v Speaker 1>a call for supporters across the country to converge in

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta in early March for a mass gathering known as

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<v Speaker 1>a Week of Action. There have been four previous Weeks

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<v Speaker 1>of Action, but this one, more than any other, would

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<v Speaker 1>be crucial in reifying what the next stage of the

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<v Speaker 1>movement would be. I started off this episode with the

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday night police raid on the South River Music Festival, because,

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<v Speaker 1>for better or worse, what happened on that evening set

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<v Speaker 1>the proverbial stage for what the majority of this Week

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<v Speaker 1>of Action would look like and how its effects would

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<v Speaker 1>ripple out in the coming months. But before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to the rest of the week, we first have to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the official start of this Week of

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<v Speaker 1>Action to explain how we got here in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>To kick off the Week of Action, a rally was

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<v Speaker 1>planned for the morning of Saturday, March fourth, at Gresham

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<v Speaker 1>Park in southeast Atlanta. By the time I arrived around

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<v Speaker 1>eleven am, hundreds of people were already in the park.

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<v Speaker 1>Music was blaring from loudspeakers. Some kids and a few

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<v Speaker 1>brave adults were running around throwing multicolored powdered paint at

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<v Speaker 1>each other. It was a pretty festive time. Soon enough,

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<v Speaker 1>it was time for things to begin. Matthew Johnson, the

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<v Speaker 1>interim executive director of Beloved Commune, formerly kicked off the week.

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<v Speaker 3>Hoday, let's get started, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to make sure that everybody is in

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<v Speaker 4>the right way. I came here to stop cop city.

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<v Speaker 5>What did you all come here to do? What did

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<v Speaker 5>we come to do? What are we come to do?

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<v Speaker 5>What have we come here to do?

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<v Speaker 6>All right?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm glad that everybody found the right address. Thank you

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<v Speaker 7>everybody for joining us.

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<v Speaker 8>It's about two years ago.

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<v Speaker 7>In what was formerly known as Entrenchment Creek Park now

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<v Speaker 7>known as Wolani People's Park, where a ragtag bunch of

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<v Speaker 7>individuals gathered under a gazebo. That gazebo was illegally destroyed

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<v Speaker 7>by Ryan Millsap and his henchmen in an attempt to

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<v Speaker 7>break this movement, in an attempt to bury this movement.

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<v Speaker 7>Yet every single time that they have tried to bury us,

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<v Speaker 7>they have forgotten that we were seeds. Every time they

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<v Speaker 7>thought that they backed us into a corner with their repression,

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<v Speaker 7>we had more of you show up and support this movement,

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<v Speaker 7>and we thank you so much. They have set every

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<v Speaker 7>hurdle in the way of every day at Lantern's to

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<v Speaker 7>intimidate them and stop them from.

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<v Speaker 4>Supporting this movement, and we still show up. We appreciate

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<v Speaker 4>every single person that has come here to support us

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<v Speaker 4>in spite of the terror that the state has right

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<v Speaker 4>to instill in us. We must be very careful and

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<v Speaker 4>understand the gravity of the situation that we are in,

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<v Speaker 4>especially after we've lost a friend.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, thank you for standing with us. And now there

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<v Speaker 7>are many things that we do not agree on. But

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<v Speaker 7>what did we all come here to do?

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<v Speaker 9>So let's remember what got us this far was a

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<v Speaker 9>diversity of tactics, and now it's time for.

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<v Speaker 8>Us to double down.

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<v Speaker 1>The crowd gathered was a pretty diverse mix of people

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<v Speaker 1>from a variety of backgrounds, beliefs, and preferred tactics. On

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<v Speaker 1>this is Saturday morning, everyone felt pretty united, whether you

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<v Speaker 1>were a kid running around with paint all over your

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<v Speaker 1>body or an anarchist to dressed head to toe and camo.

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<v Speaker 1>Next up, somebody read a statement from the Muscogee elder

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<v Speaker 1>Miko Chabon.

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<v Speaker 10>Colonel, I'm here to read.

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<v Speaker 11>A statement from my Miko, Miko Shabbon.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, my name is Marty. I'm Muscoge on my father's side.

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<v Speaker 11>On my mother's side, I'm Atham both Acmel and Thana,

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<v Speaker 11>and my dad's also Filipino. Miko asked me to read

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<v Speaker 11>this statement. Band Strijaio mart At this time, I would

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<v Speaker 11>like to express my gratitude to all who have conversed

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<v Speaker 11>onto these ancestral territories of Muscogean ancestors and modern spiritual

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<v Speaker 11>inhabitants of the earth that we now stand on today.

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<v Speaker 11>We represent a vast society of peoples whose presence in

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<v Speaker 11>the colonized named states of Georgia, Alabama, and.

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<v Speaker 6>Florida have existed for over thirteen thousand years.

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<v Speaker 11>We represent a way of life that strove to minimize

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<v Speaker 11>the harm that humans can.

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<v Speaker 6>Do to the earth, to other species, and to each other.

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<v Speaker 11>Today, we continue this movement that begun many years ago,

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<v Speaker 11>and we honor those who have taken footsteps to protect

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<v Speaker 11>this forest and our relative who gave the greatest of sacrifices,

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<v Speaker 11>just as ancestors existed on these very grounds and carried

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<v Speaker 11>of faith and confidence in what our ancient ones passed

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<v Speaker 11>on to us. May the hope of peaceful existence for

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<v Speaker 11>all be achieved for many more centuries to come. This

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<v Speaker 11>existence can only occur when we realize the sacredness of

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<v Speaker 11>the Wilani Forest, that all that is natural on this earth, Mother.

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<v Speaker 11>This type of existence can only occur when we realize

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<v Speaker 11>that we all belong to this earth, and she does

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<v Speaker 11>not belong to us. This type of holy existence can

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<v Speaker 11>only occur when we realize that no cop city can

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<v Speaker 11>ever exist because more weapons only create more violence. With

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<v Speaker 11>these efforts to begin today, perhaps reason will prevail and

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<v Speaker 11>we could create a future where all people have.

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<v Speaker 6>The right to exist.

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<v Speaker 11>Today, may our dreams for this forest and the surrounding

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<v Speaker 11>community come true.

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<v Speaker 6>For those who can hear, let them hear.

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<v Speaker 1>The next speaker was from Community Movement Builders, a local

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<v Speaker 1>black collectives that focuses on combating and gentrification and police violence.

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<v Speaker 12>I may be a little bit selfish, and my reason

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<v Speaker 12>for being here I want to be free.

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<v Speaker 6>I want my children to be free.

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<v Speaker 3>I want my mother to be free.

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<v Speaker 12>I want my father, my brothers and sisters to be free.

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<v Speaker 12>And I don't want to have to live a life

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<v Speaker 12>in ten years when my babies, my nieces and my

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<v Speaker 12>nephews come to me and ask, come, I see, where

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<v Speaker 12>were you What were you doing when they destroyed our

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<v Speaker 12>clean water, destroyed our clean air happened?

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<v Speaker 6>Why were you not around?

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<v Speaker 12>What were you doing when when my babies twenty ten

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<v Speaker 12>years and they say, comasie, what were you doing when

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<v Speaker 12>this country turned into a fascist dystopia?

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<v Speaker 13>What were you doing?

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<v Speaker 14>Where were you where you're around. I can't sit here

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<v Speaker 14>best shit back and say I just sat home and

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<v Speaker 14>watched this.

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<v Speaker 3>Whole world burn to hell.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't believe in the power.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't believe in the power of being periless.

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<v Speaker 13>I believe in the power of the people.

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<v Speaker 14>So I said to everyone today that during this week

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<v Speaker 14>of action, I don't know where you will be. I

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<v Speaker 14>don't know what you will be doing, but we standing

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<v Speaker 14>behind you and we're staying with you. And we want

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<v Speaker 14>to show the city of Atlanta. We want to show

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<v Speaker 14>Mary Dickens that he is not fit to rule and

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<v Speaker 14>he does not runing city way.

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<v Speaker 15>We want to show.

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<v Speaker 12>Them said, the ninety million dollars that they took to

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<v Speaker 12>build this very warfare training facility will not cross our

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<v Speaker 12>communities wheo. And we also want to show the city

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<v Speaker 12>of that letter that again we are ready to stop

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<v Speaker 12>really surviving to start living.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, our last person Reverend Leo'she is a Baptist minister

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Stop Copp City Clergy Coalition, which we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk a bit more about in the next episode.

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<v Speaker 16>And I believe my faith compels me and convicts me

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<v Speaker 16>that in this moment, the work that has been.

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<v Speaker 13>Done, and the work that is to come to.

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<v Speaker 16>Defend this, our beloved family, this, our siblings.

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<v Speaker 6>The earth is a holy and righteous work.

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<v Speaker 16>It is a holy and righteous work that is grounded

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<v Speaker 16>in a faithful rage, rage which has been boiling in

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<v Speaker 16>the human family's blood for centuries and meets us care

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<v Speaker 16>at this moment and asks us, what will you do

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<v Speaker 16>to defend those who have no defense?

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<v Speaker 13>What will you do to protect those who have no shelter?

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<v Speaker 16>What will you do when the time comes to decide

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<v Speaker 16>on whose side you are on? Will you stand for

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<v Speaker 16>oppression or will you stand for the liberation of all people?

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<v Speaker 16>My friends, I come with so good news if that's okay.

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<v Speaker 16>And the good news is that God stands on the

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<v Speaker 16>side of the oppress. God stands on the side of

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<v Speaker 16>the forest defenders. Law stands on the side of the

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<v Speaker 16>most marginalized. And let us make no mistake that in

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<v Speaker 16>our protests and in our rage, we also have to

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<v Speaker 16>cry out and lament. We cannot be silent as dou

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<v Speaker 16>Gita's blood cries out from the ground. We must honor

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<v Speaker 16>a life that did not have to be lost. It

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<v Speaker 16>did not have to be this way. Do not listen

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<v Speaker 16>to anyone who tells you that there is not a

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<v Speaker 16>better way, there is always a better way. I come

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<v Speaker 16>with my faith and the conviction that in this work,

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<v Speaker 16>in this moment, a prophetic imagination, a creative vision, is

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<v Speaker 16>needed for the world that we want to see. I'm

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<v Speaker 16>not here to wait for the Kingdom of God. I

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<v Speaker 16>want the Kingdom of God right now, right now.

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<v Speaker 1>After the speeches were finished, it was announced that the crowd,

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<v Speaker 1>now nearing a thousand strong, would gather up together and

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<v Speaker 1>march to Wilani People's Park to retake the forest. As

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was getting ready to leave, you could see the

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<v Speaker 1>care and solidarity people had for each other on full display.

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<v Speaker 1>Bike scouts were checking to see if the path was clear,

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<v Speaker 1>volunteer street medics ready to help anyone in need. Water

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<v Speaker 1>bottles are being handed out to keep everyone hydrated, while

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<v Speaker 1>others autonomously coordinated rides for people unable to make. The

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<v Speaker 1>walk looks like approximately one thousand people marching from Gresham

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<v Speaker 1>Park to Alani People's Park on.

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<v Speaker 10>The bike path.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a I can't even see the end of where,

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<v Speaker 1>of where, the of where the people's it's a long,

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<v Speaker 1>long stretch of people marshing, hundreds and hundreds of feet.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some banners in front of the march. One of

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<v Speaker 1>them reads disarm, defund, dismantle, no cop city. There's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the sun shining over a pink sky with a

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<v Speaker 1>little blue turtle and their shell is the earth. Massive

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<v Speaker 1>like ten person banner that reads defend the Forest. The

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<v Speaker 1>energy of the march remained high as people chanted to

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<v Speaker 1>the beat of drums. I sat down with Matt from

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlantic Community Press Collective towards the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>week to talk about what we saw throughout this week

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<v Speaker 1>of action.

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<v Speaker 2>At one point, the entire crowd, seemingly the entire crowd

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<v Speaker 2>was chanting if you build it, we will burn it,

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<v Speaker 2>which seems.

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<v Speaker 10>Almost like a thousand people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was being chanted like, you know, looking

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<v Speaker 2>around the crowd, you saw everyone for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>partaking in that.

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<v Speaker 10>So that was a very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Moment where it felt like there was that sort of

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<v Speaker 2>solidarity amongst the varied groups that make up the Defend

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<v Speaker 2>the Atlanta Forest movement.

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<v Speaker 1>As the march went on, the path was getting increasingly forested.

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<v Speaker 1>About two thirds of the way to Allani People's Park,

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<v Speaker 1>after turning a bend, the crowd noticed three deer frolicking

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<v Speaker 1>alongside the march from further within the tree line. To

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<v Speaker 1>quote the Atlanta Community Press Collectives right up of the

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<v Speaker 1>march quote. The joyous mood shifted slightly as the protest

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<v Speaker 1>closed in on the People's Park, passing over the remains

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<v Speaker 1>of the bike path destroyed in December by film executive

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Millsap. Activists were uncertain what they were walking into

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<v Speaker 1>or whether the police would offer any resistance.

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<v Speaker 2>Activists thought that there was going to be an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>They were concerned about the police being in willani People's Park.

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<v Speaker 2>So about halfway we saw that stack of makeshift shields

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<v Speaker 2>made out of plastic rain barrels.

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<v Speaker 1>About two dozen of those five gatlandrum shields just mysteriously

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<v Speaker 1>showed up along the bike path. We are arriving at

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<v Speaker 1>Willannee People's Park, no cops.

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<v Speaker 2>But then when we got there there was no police whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>From what the scanner people told us, there were police around,

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<v Speaker 2>they were just kind of monitoring from afar, but no

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<v Speaker 2>police ever entered the park. And it was I would

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<v Speaker 2>say it was a really nice high point return to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Forest, banners and shields moving around Willane People's Park as

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds and hundreds of more people still pour in from

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<v Speaker 1>the bike path. As the back of the march finally arrived,

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd gathered up one more time to all chant

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<v Speaker 1>out a promise.

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<v Speaker 17>In unison, I will, I Will.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the activists I interviewed during the Week of

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<v Speaker 1>Action was Matthew Johnson, the person who kicked off the

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<v Speaker 1>rally at Gresham Park. We talked about the methodology of

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<v Speaker 1>starting off this Week of Action with this big inclusive

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<v Speaker 1>march and how that may have helped achieve the goal

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<v Speaker 1>of retaking the forest that first day.

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<v Speaker 18>We wanted to be sure that we would be able

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<v Speaker 18>to reoccupy the park and what that would entail is

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<v Speaker 18>having a wide swath of the larger public involved with

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<v Speaker 18>any efforts to enter into the park. And so we

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<v Speaker 18>had the rally Aggresshiam Park and there was a march

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<v Speaker 18>planned from that part to Wallani People's Park. There is

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<v Speaker 18>violence that people have become accustomed to when it is

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<v Speaker 18>people on the political fringes. That's just where we're at

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<v Speaker 18>in the political situation in Atlanta. However, when you have

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<v Speaker 18>several people that you would consider more normal, liberal, progressive, etc.

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<v Speaker 18>Like representatives from NGO's nonprofit organizations, just normal people that

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<v Speaker 18>also wanted to see the project shut down cop City.

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<v Speaker 18>That's when you have the ability to move towards people

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<v Speaker 18>that want to reoccupy, having the space to do that

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<v Speaker 18>without seeing tons of police repression as we have seen

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<v Speaker 18>in the movement recently.

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<v Speaker 1>After reaching Wolaanni People's Park, many of those who arrived

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<v Speaker 1>from out of town for this week of action, myself included,

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<v Speaker 1>stopped by the shrine for Tortigita just off of the

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<v Speaker 1>tree line. People added new wildflowers and packs of fruit snacks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to walk over to the Torti Guita vigil site.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks about the same as last time I was here.

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<v Speaker 1>Many candles, little turtles, still a few fruit snacks. Although

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<v Speaker 1>the vigil shrine was the same as last time I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it, almost everything else about being in this place

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<v Speaker 1>was different. When I was here last time in January,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a dark place of grief. The forest was barren,

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<v Speaker 1>with all of the trees in their bare winter state.

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<v Speaker 1>But looking around the forest this first sunny day, you

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<v Speaker 1>could see new life growing all around you. To quote

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<v Speaker 1>the Community Press Collective again quote, small campsites began to

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<v Speaker 1>crop up across the landscape. Some nestled in sunny air spaces.

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<v Speaker 1>Others tucked into thickets, providing shelter and cooler climate for

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<v Speaker 1>the new residence. The trees themselves reflected this next phase.

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<v Speaker 1>Sprigs of new growth leaves appeared on the ends of

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<v Speaker 1>barren branches. Small white flowers bloomed along the periphery of

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<v Speaker 1>the parking lot. After months of desolation and death, life

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<v Speaker 1>prevailed and spring arrives in the forest.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm excited to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get back into the forest because it is so hot,

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<v Speaker 1>and get back in the forest I did. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the events that happened almost daily throughout the week was

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<v Speaker 1>tours of the eastern side of the Wallani Forest. The

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<v Speaker 1>walks through the woods were led by Joe Perry, a

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<v Speaker 1>member of the South River Forest Coalition. I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to attend the first tour during the Week of Action

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<v Speaker 1>and got consent to record some of the forest walk.

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<v Speaker 19>All right, hey, y'all, welcome to the living room, so

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<v Speaker 19>named because it's it's a very inviting and comfortable place.

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<v Speaker 20>Relax.

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<v Speaker 19>This is where a lot of the meetings happened during

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 19>the previous Week of action. People gather and have different

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 19>events here. Oftentimes it will be food available here campfires, silverware.

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 19>So it's also just a very very comfortable place to

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 19>relax because it's in this pine forest and so not

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 19>really any undergrowth and just super comfortable. It's a really

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 19>good place to have meetings and just kind of get

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<v Speaker 19>to know each other and establish some calm.

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<v Speaker 1>We made our way from the living room to the

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Grandmother Tree, a large oak that is estimated to be

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>a few hundred years old. On our way to Ryan

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Millsaps proposed a site for so called Michelle Obama Park,

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>which is currently a forty acre mount of dirt about

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 1>thirty feet high. We walked past to some old tents

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that were slashed apart during the January raid. Among the

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>destroyed remains were little pink flowers growing out of the ground. Next,

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>we headed to Entrenchment Creek. Joe Perry explained some of

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the background regarding the environmental state of the watershed and

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>how protecting the forest is a crucial step in the

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>process of helping the land heal itself.

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 19>I got involved with a group called the South River

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 19>Forest Coalition. We are trying to help further the vision

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 19>of the South River Forest that Ryan Gravelle and the

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 19>Nature Conservancy came up with to try to interweave about

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 19>thirty five hundred acres of forest with the other businesses

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 19>and homes and lands around this area that are in

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 19>the watershed of the South River forest. And the Entrenchment Creek,

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 19>which we will see on this tour, is the main

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 19>tributary to the South River. The South River is the

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 19>fourth most endangered river in this country, and Trenchmit Creek

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 19>is one of the most polluted creeks in this county.

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 19>And so that is what we're trying to protect. And

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 19>in order to protect a river and a creek and

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 19>a watershed, you have to protect the forest that's around it.

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:20.719
<v Speaker 19>I've been exploring these woods for the last decade and

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 19>leading tours and talking to people about it, trying to

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 19>explain what's going on with a lawsuit, trying to explain

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 19>what's going on the difference between in Trenchmen Creek Park

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 19>and the prison farm and the acreage and all these

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 19>other things, and all that stuff. It's just like it's

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 19>just gears turning in your head because when you come

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 19>out here and enjoy this, I mean, this is really

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 19>what it's all about. This is all we have to

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 19>do to convince people that this is worth saving it.

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 19>Just bring you out here and let you appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>As masses of people converged at Wallani People's Park Saturday afternoon,

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 1>almost immediately a whole bunch of pop up infrastructure was

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>set up to facilitate an encampment in the woods once again,

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>really for the first time in any kind of large

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 1>capacity since January and even December. The December raids decimated

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 1>much of the camp infrastructure, which still had not been

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>rebuilt since then. But upon arriving from Gresham Park on Saturday,

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>both first time of visitors to the Wallani Forest and

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 1>seasoned forest defenders worked together to rebuild a lot of

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>that infrastructure to support camp life for the next week.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that we saw on the march

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 2>in was like eight cinder blocks right at the entrance

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 2>to the living room, and then you and I went

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 2>into the living room, we saw these huge water tanks.

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 2>So later they moved those water tanks to those cinder

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 2>blocks and they that has become or a watering point

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 2>for everyone. So like twice a day a truck comes

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 2>with a water tank on the back and then they

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>go through the arduous process of filling that water. So

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 2>that everybody in camp can have water, and they had

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 2>this system that was seemingly self organized. And then that

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 2>first day we were sitting in the parking lot and

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 2>it seemed like every time you turn around there was

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 2>like a different train of people carrying supplies into the

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 2>living room. The second day, there was a woman who

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 2>was shoveling gravel from the torn up concrete on the side,

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 2>and she was filling all of the brandom holes in

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:31.280
<v Speaker 2>the ground so that carts could go up them. And

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know, did somebody assign this to you?

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.320
<v Speaker 2>She's like, no, I saw this. It just needed to

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 2>be done, and I did it. And that was very

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 2>much the entire vibe of those first I would say

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours was Okay, what do we need to

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 2>do to get this thing running?

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 1>As encampments were being established, simultaneously, infrastructure for the South

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>River Music Festival was being erected in the adjacent radio

0:34:57.040 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>control field. Within a short amount of time, a full

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:05.360
<v Speaker 1>stage was constructed, complete with lights and speakers, lining the

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 1>sides of the field, where various tables and booths. One

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>side featured a large variety of refreshments, as well as

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>a medic tent, and the other side was home to

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:18.839
<v Speaker 1>free hot food and freshly grilled burgers and hot dogs.

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Next to the food were a few tables distributing an

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>array of radical literature posters and stickers. What was your

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 1>favorite stuff at the music fest? Suture?

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:29.799
<v Speaker 2>So well, there was an arapa table, and I'm very

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:33.359
<v Speaker 2>food motivated, so the arapas were delicious, and we had

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 2>walked a bunch that day, so I needed sustenance. And

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 2>then there was the burger table as well, but we

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't think. I don't know if you got a burger,

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 2>but I did not get a burger.

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:45.399
<v Speaker 1>I got I got one burger, but they were out

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.359
<v Speaker 1>of buns when I got a burger, so I had

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 1>a lettuce burger. And then soon after they got the

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:53.800
<v Speaker 1>buns back, and I was kind of kind of bummed.

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah I did not at least you got something, but

0:35:57.800 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I had the arapis.

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 1>So I mean still hardworth to be fair, hundreds of

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>people were they've fed for They've had five hundred people,

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, And at one point they made announcement that

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:08.880
<v Speaker 1>like they needed to do another food run just to

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>go get more more food, and like a bunch of

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>people volunteered and you know, only I think two or

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>three went down to Walmart to get a bunch of

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 1>more burgers and hot dogs, and it was just a

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:18.720
<v Speaker 1>really cool moment.

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 2>So I think by the end the end of the

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:22.760
<v Speaker 2>night when I was there, there were about five hundred

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 2>people just enjoying the music and looking at the sky.

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.720
<v Speaker 2>It was just an immaculate vibe. There was a little

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 2>fire pick off to the side. And yeah, you talked

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 2>about the setting up the stage. You know, I didn't

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 2>know what to expect walking in there is not expecting

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 2>quite that much of a production. I wasn't expecting a

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 2>light pledged stage with lights all around sort of in

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 2>this really like the lighting worked really well for it's

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 2>it backdropped the surrounding for.

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:53.959
<v Speaker 1>It like nice like green and purple lighting.

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:55.399
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it was. It was great.

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.439
<v Speaker 2>And then they had that green room tent back there,

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 2>and then they had a separate tent for a quick like.

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 2>It was a very well thought out festival in the

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 2>middle of nowhere.

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>The South River Music Festival began early Saturday evening at

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 1>five point thirty, kicking off two days of local musical

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:16.880
<v Speaker 1>artists playing shows free of charge. Before the lineup of

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:20.320
<v Speaker 1>live music began. Someone on stage read out a small

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>flyer that was being passed around, detailing the reasoning for

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the festival and its place within the fight to defend

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:30.760
<v Speaker 1>the forest, and I got permission to share that reading.

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 21>In the limitless possibilities of the cosmos, in the mad

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 21>flecks of events, reactions and anomalies of the past twelve

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 21>billion years since the birth of our universe, it's a

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 21>statistical impossibility.

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 20>That we would be here now, But here we are alive.

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:54.839
<v Speaker 21>Together Such incredible circumstances have brought us here. Among them

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 21>the incredible and innovative resistance to defend this place. From

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 21>becoming a poet least training compound.

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 10>Magic mushrooms out.

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 21>This resistance, which brings us together the most cunning and

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 21>resilient techniques of the radical environmentalist movement with the incredible

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 21>courage and ferocity of the George Floyd Uprising, is not

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:21.320
<v Speaker 21>just about a small piece of land.

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:23.360
<v Speaker 20>It's not about being fought.

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:26.359
<v Speaker 21>Between police and their goons on one hand and some

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 21>activists and their friends on the other. We are witnessing

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 21>a collision of two competing ideas of happiness.

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 20>Of life, of the future.

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 21>In this competition experiments with new types of free culture

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:44.319
<v Speaker 21>play a decisive role. This movement cannot be reduced to

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 21>what is happening in city hall, on social media, or

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:52.840
<v Speaker 21>in meetings. For two years, we have descended on these woods,

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:56.280
<v Speaker 21>finding refuge from the high rents and predatory bookings fees

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 21>of the corporate venues and bars. We have not come

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 21>here to redecorate the actions of some activists as allies,

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 21>lending our service to the drab and loveless militancy of

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:10.760
<v Speaker 21>something we do not otherwise care about. As the gentrification

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 21>of Atlanta intensifies, more and more diy venues and clubs

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 21>are shutdown, and free spaces to play, shows and dance

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 21>are push further and further from the city center. Our

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:24.439
<v Speaker 21>free time is pinched as rents increase and traffic keeps

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 21>us waiting longer and longer.

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:31.720
<v Speaker 20>That is going to change.

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 21>Music is not like other forms of human culture. It

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:40.400
<v Speaker 21>is different from painting, drawing, poetry, literature, or film art. Politics,

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 21>and symbolic culture in general represent the passions conjuring strong

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 21>feelings from the shadows of reality, pulling them from the

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.760
<v Speaker 21>depths of the soul or the back of consciousness.

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 20>Music, on the other hand.

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 21>Is perhaps the only form of human creativity that contacts

0:39:57.040 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 21>those feelings without any mediations. Music is physics, music is reality.

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 21>The system we live in is at war with reality.

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:11.839
<v Speaker 21>The system is destroying forests, rivers, mountaintops, and oceans. It's

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 21>destroying our imaginations, our bodies, and our world. To defend

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 21>ourselves from certain annihilation, it will not be sufficient to

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 21>strike the right notes at the right time. We will

0:40:23.040 --> 0:40:25.800
<v Speaker 21>have to make recourse to other means, to more direct means,

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 21>and that is why we're all here. The defend the

0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 21>Atlanta Forest Revolution will be economic, political, as well as cultural.

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 21>We're building a new era of human history where music

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 21>will be at the steering wheel. What is needed cannot

0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 21>be taught without first being discovered. We are those adventurers

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 21>plunging the depths of the cosmos for the contours and

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 21>textures of a free existence, of a life without dead time.

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 21>When it is necessary, we will defend ourselves by the

0:40:56.480 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 21>means appropriate to the task. Not with words, not with denunciation,

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 21>but with actions, real and concrete, actions as real as

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 21>this sounds, as real as reality.

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 20>I'm so lucky to be here with y'all. Thank you.

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Across the middle of the field, hundreds of people laid

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 1>out blankets on the grass and dirt. Concertgoers alternated between

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 1>a dancing in front of the stage and relaxing and

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:27.439
<v Speaker 1>eating food on picnic blankets. As the night approached, over

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a thousand people were spread out across the RC field.

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Amoshe pit had formed directly in front of the stage.

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Musicians led stop Coopcity chants, and between sets, people spoke

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 1>on mic about the movement.

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 22>Everybody say stop cop City, Stop cop City.

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 3>That's right, that's right.

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Saturday Night was headlined by local Atlanta rapper Zach Fox.

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Zach told stories about how he and his friends used

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 1>to hang out in this very forest as teenagers.

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 23>All Right, man, hey, i'm gonna say this, Fuck the mayor.

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 23>I'm gonna say this, fuck the mayor, and fuck all

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 23>this shit. And I love everybody for coming out to

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 23>support this ship.

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:15.360
<v Speaker 8>And you're really fucking.

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 13>When I tell you me, Archie.

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 24>Everybody used to walk back in these woods and drink

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:28.840
<v Speaker 24>red stripes and and walk our dogs and shoot guns

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 24>and shiit. So I really don't want to see this

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 24>shit happen. And I really appreciate Allia for coming out

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 24>to do this shit.

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Fuck cop City Chance erupted pretty regularly throughout the night.

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 23>And this is all I'm gonna tell the police. This

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 23>is all I'm gonna tell the police. Okay, hold on,

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 23>let me make sure I push the right button.

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 25>Say that ship. Let's go. Fucking run it. Fucking run it. Fucko,

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 25>run it, fucking run it, fucking run it, fucking run it.

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 3>FUCKO, run it, Atlanta. I love y'all so much.

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:22.359
<v Speaker 23>Man, Hell yeah, hey, man, let me say something real quick.

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:23.800
<v Speaker 23>Let me say something real quick before I get the

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:25.719
<v Speaker 23>fuck out saves. Let my hummies right this shit. I

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 23>love y'all so much for supporting this shit I have.

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<v Speaker 23>Let me tell you. Let me tell you something. I'm

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<v Speaker 23>thirty two. A lot of niggas start getting old and

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<v Speaker 23>they lose faith in the youth. I got so much

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<v Speaker 23>faith in everybody in this motherfucking bitch. Wherever y'all going,

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<v Speaker 23>I'm going, I truly believe that y'all gonna save this

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<v Speaker 23>motherfucking world.

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<v Speaker 26>So I'm with y'all.

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<v Speaker 23>Fuck cop City, fuck cops in general, fuck twelve, fuck authoritarianism,

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<v Speaker 23>fuck capitalism, fuck all that bullshit. I'm with y'all to

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<v Speaker 23>the end. So I motherfucking die so let me hear

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<v Speaker 23>y'all say this one more time.

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<v Speaker 25>Start bawow, start bobow. Stiit bob wow, side bobow.

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<v Speaker 1>Besides the domestic terrorism banner I mentioned in the opening

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<v Speaker 1>of this episode, another banner was hung up beside the

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<v Speaker 1>stage featuring turtles and butterflies, along with the Asada Shakur quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Love is our sword, truth is our compass.

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<v Speaker 19>This kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Music is about the Nazi to nature, filling the trees,

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<v Speaker 1>feeling the ground, filling each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Look right up there, look.

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<v Speaker 10>At the fucking moon.

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<v Speaker 1>To quote a communicate from the Sonic Defense Committee quote.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, it was impossible to imagine a meaningful

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<v Speaker 1>police intervention. The crowd was made up of elderly people,

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<v Speaker 1>university students, rappers and did US activists, toddlers and newborns, skaters,

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<v Speaker 1>people of all imaginable Atlanta demographics. The night ended around

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<v Speaker 1>three thirty am to sounds of house techno and drum

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<v Speaker 1>and bass without any notable incident.

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<v Speaker 10>Unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>Tents were set up all over the eastern side of

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<v Speaker 1>the forest, with many people choosing to sleep under the

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<v Speaker 1>tree canopy between the living room and the music festival

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<v Speaker 1>for that first night. As the night went on, people

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<v Speaker 1>carefully tended small campfires both in the festival field and

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the living room. To quote the

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<v Speaker 1>Press Collective, the movement was once again living in joyous

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<v Speaker 1>harmony with the forest it had promised to protect. Tomorrow's

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<v Speaker 1>episode will cover day two of the music festival, the

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<v Speaker 1>frankly unprecedented direct action that took place Sunday afternoon, and

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<v Speaker 1>a more detailed look at the police raid that happened

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<v Speaker 1>later that evening. See you on the other side, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to it could happen here. This is part two

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<v Speaker 1>of my mini series detailing the March Week of Action

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<v Speaker 1>to defend the Atlanta Forest and stop Coop City. Last episode,

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<v Speaker 1>we covered the Week of Action kickoff rally at Gresham

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<v Speaker 1>Park and day one of the South River Music Festival.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be picking up basically right where we left off,

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<v Speaker 1>starting with my conversation with Matt from the Atlanta Community

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<v Speaker 1>Press Collective. Saturday night, there was music going on to

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<v Speaker 1>like four am. It was a long night, but like

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<v Speaker 1>a really good night. What was your Sunday?

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<v Speaker 3>Like Sunday?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Sunday started off really great, Like walking in

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing you see when you walked back onto

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<v Speaker 2>the festival grounds was this amazing bouncy house that they

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<v Speaker 2>had written some guidelines up there that it did seem

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone followed. You could fit six adults, which like

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<v Speaker 2>for a bouncy house, that's pretty large.

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<v Speaker 10>It was a big bouncy house.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like six of dollars through twelve kids or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. So, yeah, you see bouncy house and

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<v Speaker 2>like when you see that the first thing, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think that visually sets the entire expectation, like that is

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<v Speaker 2>a statement in and of itself of like what they

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<v Speaker 2>were going for that first.

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<v Speaker 1>Day, Day two of the music festival started around noon.

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<v Speaker 1>Right in the middle of the RC field was this

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<v Speaker 1>large rainbow colored bouncy castle adorned with a stop Copcity banner.

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<v Speaker 1>People slowly trickled in all over the course of the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>culminating in about a thousand people scattered across the field

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<v Speaker 1>by four pm. Just like the night before, people enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>free food, Defend the Forest related literature, and a bustling

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<v Speaker 1>refreshment booth while listening to live music. People played a

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<v Speaker 1>soccer and frisbee in the open field, while others were

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<v Speaker 1>continuing to build camp infrastructure in the forest.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think the bouncy Castle set the tone, and

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<v Speaker 2>everything was really lighthearted for the first few hours. I

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<v Speaker 2>spent most of that day walking around watching the autonomous

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<v Speaker 2>infrastructure in the forest kind of pop up on its own.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like everywhere I went, you know, to the parking lot,

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<v Speaker 2>you saw trains of people carrying like water and supplies

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<v Speaker 2>deep into the forest. Everyone seemed to just be trying

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<v Speaker 2>to find a place to fit in and to work

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<v Speaker 2>and to really participate in the week of Action.

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<v Speaker 1>As the day went on, rumors started to circulate about

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<v Speaker 1>inaction happening later that afternoon. Word quickly spread that people

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<v Speaker 1>would meet up in the RC field at five pm. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>a flyer was posted to social media, and sure enough,

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<v Speaker 1>come five o'clock, a group of a few hundred people

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<v Speaker 1>made up of individuals and affinity groups, gathered behind the

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<v Speaker 1>bouncy Castle, most of whom were masked up and a

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<v Speaker 1>donning some form of black block or camo block. A

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<v Speaker 1>communicating posted later on the website scenes dot no blogs

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<v Speaker 1>dot org described the feeling on the ground quote the

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<v Speaker 1>air was tense, no visible rage, just a stealed determination.

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<v Speaker 1>No one knew what was coming next, but we knew

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<v Speaker 1>it was something big that.

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<v Speaker 2>That was quite the visual like this, this crowd of

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<v Speaker 2>Camo and black block and like some people wearing normal

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<v Speaker 2>clothes who I don't think quite knew what they were

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<v Speaker 2>about to do next to this massive bouncy castle. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that the visual of it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>represents like two aspects of the movement, right, like the

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<v Speaker 2>militant aspect and the joyful aspect, and I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>both very central to what you know, the movement is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a pretty good encapsulation of the diversity present

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<v Speaker 1>around the Defend the Forest and Stop cup City movement.

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<v Speaker 10>There's a few.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundred people in Camo Block walking down, I believe is

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<v Speaker 1>a constitution, a lot of people addressed in Black Block,

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<v Speaker 1>mix of legal observers here, police shoppers overhead are Currently

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<v Speaker 1>people are marching west in the direction of the old

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta prison farm, the slate of the forest that cop

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<v Speaker 1>City is planned to be built on. There has not

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<v Speaker 1>really been a mass convergence of people like this in

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<v Speaker 1>the forest in a long long time. I cannot remember

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<v Speaker 1>the last time there was anything quite like this. This

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely the biggest group of people who's ever like

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<v Speaker 1>converged on marching on the old Atlanta Prison farm area.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, people were occupying and living in the forest

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<v Speaker 1>in that side. Since the repression has intensified, more people

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<v Speaker 1>have moved over across on the other side of the

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<v Speaker 1>Churchman Creek Park, on the slate of land closer to

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<v Speaker 1>Wollani People's Park and the section that Lion MILLSAP is

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to develop. Definitely never seen this many people marching

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<v Speaker 1>like this near the forest. In a much more militant

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<v Speaker 1>seeming group of the crowd, as opposed to Saturday's first march,

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<v Speaker 1>which was like a thousand people of various types. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>here looks much more willing to throw down. As the group,

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<v Speaker 1>around three hundred strong, left the RC field, they calmly

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<v Speaker 1>marched west down Constitution Road toward the power line cut,

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<v Speaker 1>accompanied overhead by a police chopper equipped with a thermal camera.

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<v Speaker 10>Popped as still overhead. I'm sure you can hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>To get a clear picture of what actually happened that day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's useful to understand the geography of the Wilauni Forest,

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<v Speaker 1>especially since the police have tried to make it sound

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<v Speaker 1>like the individuals who were arrested later that night were

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<v Speaker 1>apprehended at this scene of the crime, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>actually the case.

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<v Speaker 2>The entire area that the defenders are trying to defend,

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<v Speaker 2>the entire Weilani Forest, the contiguous part of it is

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<v Speaker 2>surrounded in sort of a triangle by three different roads, Constitution,

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<v Speaker 2>Key and Bouldercrest. All the way to the east is

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<v Speaker 2>Wilani People's Park, and like just to the west of

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<v Speaker 2>that is the RC Field where the music festival was happening,

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<v Speaker 2>where the bouncy castle is and where our group that

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<v Speaker 2>we're following here starts to gather. And then all the

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<v Speaker 2>way to the west is the proposed site of copp

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<v Speaker 2>City along Key Road. So to get there through the

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<v Speaker 2>forest takes a good thirty forty five minutes to get there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're on the road, is still like

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty five thirty minute walk. It is not like

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere close on foot. No, it's from point A to

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<v Speaker 2>point B.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're crossing through the woods, you also have

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<v Speaker 1>to like jump over Entrenchment Creek, which is not the

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<v Speaker 1>easiest creek to cross over.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the easiest and it's not the cleanest something

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<v Speaker 2>you want to step in.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm at the back of the march.

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<v Speaker 1>Now everyone's kind of tightened up into one larger, larger group.

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<v Speaker 1>They've paused briefly and are retrieving some tires that have

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<v Speaker 1>been found near the ditch on the road here, dozens

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<v Speaker 1>and dozens of tires are blocking are blocking the road.

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<v Speaker 1>They're getting moved out pretty quick and the march is

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<v Speaker 1>moving on. Oh, and looks like people arrived at the

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<v Speaker 1>power line cut. This massive clearing for power lines to

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<v Speaker 1>run north south. People are now marching on the green

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<v Speaker 1>grass underneath the power lines. The thin clear cut for

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<v Speaker 1>power lines has been there for years and directly leads

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<v Speaker 1>to where cop City pre construction work is taking place

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<v Speaker 1>near the North Gate. The open area makes it easy

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<v Speaker 1>to traverse, but on the flip side that also makes

0:53:57.000 --> 0:54:00.279
<v Speaker 1>it easy to surveil. There were only a little over

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<v Speaker 1>a dozen cops stationed at the North Gate, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as the police chopper circling overhead. The group of block

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<v Speaker 1>is slowly, slowly moving north along the power line cut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm keeping my distance for now so that I can

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<v Speaker 1>continue doing stuff without being extremely jeopardized. The block approached

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<v Speaker 1>the North Gate in broad daylight, with shields in hand

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<v Speaker 1>and people behind throwing projectiles in the direction of police,

0:54:25.360 --> 0:54:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a barrage of fireworks, rocks, and just the sheer size

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<v Speaker 1>of the crowd overwhelmed police, causing officers to retreat as

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<v Speaker 1>a swarm of hundreds of people overtook the proposed cop

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<v Speaker 1>city construction site and current police security upost within the

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<v Speaker 1>Wollani Forest. All right, the group has marched a decent

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<v Speaker 1>ways up. There's now fireworks in the distance. Police helicopter

0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:49.320
<v Speaker 1>is still overhead. Looks like most of the crowd is

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<v Speaker 1>still in the area of the power line cut.

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<v Speaker 10>Pretty condensed.

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<v Speaker 1>Large group of people up there, lots of fireworks. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, some individuals chose to focus their efforts on

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<v Speaker 1>pelling the nearby police, giving the opportunity for others to

0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:07.200
<v Speaker 1>set their sights on various targets. The large number of

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<v Speaker 1>people in the block together allowed for individuals to feel

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<v Speaker 1>more safe and capable of taking action. The APDs put

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<v Speaker 1>a call out to get any available units down here

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<v Speaker 1>by the old line of prison farm property and a

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<v Speaker 1>quote from the scanner audios get here now assholes. Forest

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<v Speaker 1>defenders smashed up and set ablaze and office trailer, two UTVs,

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<v Speaker 1>a surveillance tower and a front end loader as the

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<v Speaker 1>police ran for cover behind a fenced off secondary, smaller

0:55:34.440 --> 0:55:39.400
<v Speaker 1>outpost across from Key Road, despite the police helicopter circling

0:55:39.440 --> 0:55:42.600
<v Speaker 1>overhead the gathering spot for a good thirty minutes. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems APD was not fully prepared in their response or

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<v Speaker 1>just did not know what was going on, because they

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<v Speaker 1>made a decent way without any visible resistance so far.

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<v Speaker 1>A communicate posted online reads quote when we approached the gate,

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<v Speaker 1>finally it was not chaos, but it was something like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Our crowd unleashed a wild burst of energy. It was

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<v Speaker 1>incredible and I will never forget it. It was rhythmic

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<v Speaker 1>almost We devastated all of their work, their vehicles, the trailer, everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But it looks like Atlanta Police is now trying to converge.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of fireworks are still. I see smoke. Oh, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of smoke. WHOA A lot of smoke very fast

0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:26.640
<v Speaker 1>is filling up, filling up the area around the little

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like it's by the little control tower in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the power line cut. Wow, that smoke

0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:35.840
<v Speaker 1>is thick. That's a fire. That is a decent fire.

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<v Speaker 1>You can I can see the orange flame now as

0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:40.799
<v Speaker 1>the few police officers stationed at the North Gate were

0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:44.920
<v Speaker 1>forced to fall back under pressure. Force defenders leveled months

0:56:44.960 --> 0:56:48.000
<v Speaker 1>of their work within a few minutes. To quote the

0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:51.720
<v Speaker 1>scenes dot no blocks communicate quote. This act of mass

0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 1>collective sabotage was done methodically and without anxiety. The crowd

0:56:56.600 --> 0:56:59.920
<v Speaker 1>destroyed all of their equipment with ease and confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>So the excavator there was a utility train vehicle, which

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<v Speaker 2>is what the police have been using to sort of

0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:12.840
<v Speaker 2>move in and around the woods, and sort of motorized

0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 2>move in and around the woods. And then the office

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<v Speaker 2>space and the storage space.

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<v Speaker 10>We're all torched.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that comprised like everything that was over.

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:30.040
<v Speaker 1>There, and then the police surveillance tower, which has been

0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:31.160
<v Speaker 1>taken down a few times.

0:57:31.160 --> 0:57:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Surveillance towers in that area, they have this tendency.

0:57:33.400 --> 0:57:33.960
<v Speaker 10>To fall over.

0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:37.800
<v Speaker 1>The fire has gotten a lot lot bigger. Police scanner

0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:41.640
<v Speaker 1>audio is saying officer needs help, calling for all available

0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:44.439
<v Speaker 1>units to converge on the spot. Wow O, the fire

0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:47.800
<v Speaker 1>is getting so much brighter, smoke is incredibly thick. It

0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:50.040
<v Speaker 1>looks like some people are starting to move out of

0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:51.240
<v Speaker 1>the area back into the woods.

0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:52.920
<v Speaker 10>But wow, that is.

0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:57.400
<v Speaker 1>A huge fire. It was at least two separate things

0:57:57.560 --> 0:58:00.200
<v Speaker 1>lit on fire. There were, in fact, more than two

0:58:00.240 --> 0:58:03.120
<v Speaker 1>things on fire. Looks like crowd is going to be

0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:05.680
<v Speaker 1>starting to move because a lot of police is about

0:58:05.680 --> 0:58:08.040
<v Speaker 1>to show up. Unsure what the response will be for

0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:11.240
<v Speaker 1>people at the music festival or at a Wolani People's

0:58:11.280 --> 0:58:13.000
<v Speaker 1>park who are camping out for the Week of Action.

0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:17.200
<v Speaker 1>But this is a pretty pretty big action for Week

0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:21.160
<v Speaker 1>of Action Day two. Wow, this smoke plume is massive.

0:58:25.280 --> 0:58:28.760
<v Speaker 1>While the action itself was a success, the notion of

0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 1>an overall one sided victory was about to come crashing down.

0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 1>A whole bunch of sirens just flew by about a

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:39.560
<v Speaker 1>dozen cop cars, lots of cop cars by the music

0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:42.800
<v Speaker 1>festival entrants as well by the RC field. Looks like

0:58:42.840 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the cop cars are converging at the festival, not at

0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the fire. Okay, back at the music festival. As you

0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 1>can hear, it is it is. It is still ongoing.

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:58.560
<v Speaker 1>There's still hundreds of people, probably like five hundred people

0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:01.520
<v Speaker 1>gathered here at the music festival. You can see smoke

0:59:01.600 --> 0:59:05.560
<v Speaker 1>in the air from this vantage point, from the spot

0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:07.840
<v Speaker 1>by the power line cut where.

0:59:07.920 --> 0:59:10.120
<v Speaker 10>Those two fires took place.

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:13.680
<v Speaker 1>One indication that this night was far from over was

0:59:13.720 --> 0:59:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that the police helicopter seemed to be moving toward the festival.

0:59:17.640 --> 0:59:20.080
<v Speaker 1>The chopper has moved from being near the power line

0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:24.000
<v Speaker 1>cut to the music festival and Wailani People's Park. Vibe

0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 1>seems to be pretty chill on the ground here. I'm

0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:28.320
<v Speaker 1>not sure how many people that are present know what's

0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:32.480
<v Speaker 1>going on, but the chopper is still stationed above the

0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:35.160
<v Speaker 1>entrance to the festival, so I think they're looking to

0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:38.040
<v Speaker 1>see if the group that march is going to march

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:42.400
<v Speaker 1>back the same direction, which I don't think they will, but.

0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:43.760
<v Speaker 10>That is what's currently going on.

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<v Speaker 1>People still still seem to be coming like to and

0:59:46.880 --> 0:59:51.840
<v Speaker 1>from the festival. Sure enough, within minutes, an increasingly large

0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:55.360
<v Speaker 1>number of police started to stage by the entrance to

0:59:55.400 --> 0:59:58.560
<v Speaker 1>the RC field. Doesn't the police cars are now stationed

0:59:58.560 --> 1:00:00.480
<v Speaker 1>outside the entrance to the RC field where the music

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<v Speaker 1>festival is taking place. There's a lot of police here,

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<v Speaker 1>some with rifles. They're getting their zip ti cuffs ready.

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<v Speaker 1>They've not entered the festival area yet, but I got

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<v Speaker 1>word from somebody that they have entered the Wolani People's

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<v Speaker 1>Park parking lot and it looks like movement is to

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<v Speaker 1>be expected very soon. At around six thirty pm, police

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<v Speaker 1>began to raid the South River Music Festival and started

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<v Speaker 1>what I think is accurately described as the police's own

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<v Speaker 1>counter protest to the events that transpired the past hour.

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<v Speaker 2>So when the police came running up onto the tarmac

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<v Speaker 2>at Rcy Field where the bouncy castle was, of course

1:00:39.160 --> 1:00:42.960
<v Speaker 2>they had to point a rifle at the bouncy castle.

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<v Speaker 2>And if that doesn't show that police are not here

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<v Speaker 2>to have fun and have joy, I don't know what is.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if anyone was in it at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I think they were literally just

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<v Speaker 2>pointing a gun at an empty bouncy castle, which they

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<v Speaker 2>have they destroyed, And I think we have to take

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<v Speaker 2>a moment to mourn that.

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<v Speaker 10>Lots of police running into the music festival.

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<v Speaker 1>They're running someone down, chasing down a few people, Cops

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<v Speaker 1>approaching for multiple sides. Instead of immediately trying to confront

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<v Speaker 1>the hundreds of music festival attendees head on, the still

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<v Speaker 1>extremely outnumbered cops ran to the opposite side of the

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<v Speaker 1>music festival and started to indiscriminately go after isolated stragglers

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<v Speaker 1>people running into the woods trace by police. Someone's tackled,

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<v Speaker 1>no one early arounded to arrest someone else being arrested one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 1>four or five six people currently arrested that I can

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<v Speaker 1>see or at least being detained.

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<v Speaker 10>Looks like an NLG person's on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually, the certain goers realized what was happening, and a

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<v Speaker 1>little over one hundred people mobilized to pressure the cops

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<v Speaker 1>out of the field.

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<v Speaker 10>People from the.

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<v Speaker 1>Music festival are now running behind the police that have

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<v Speaker 1>rushed into the RC field, cops being flanked by hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of people.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first thing that happened was a few officers

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<v Speaker 2>entered the RC field, which is where the music festival

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<v Speaker 2>was happening, and made a few quick arrests.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, like five or six, I would say.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would assume, seeing like the crowd and realizing

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<v Speaker 2>that a small force of officers is easily overwhelmed, kind

1:02:39.360 --> 1:02:42.960
<v Speaker 2>of pulled back with their arrests. And then just after that,

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<v Speaker 2>over in Wielani People's Park, that's when the CAB came

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<v Speaker 2>in with their SWAT teams. There was a group that

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<v Speaker 2>was meeting in the gazebo and they report like dozens

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<v Speaker 2>of police officers running by. One of them stood up

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<v Speaker 2>to record, and an officer with an ar fifteen and

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<v Speaker 2>yelled at them and told them to sit the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>back down, and they did. They were allowed to finish

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<v Speaker 2>their meeting. But they report this very surreal experience of

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<v Speaker 2>just officers like flying by and also making arrest of

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<v Speaker 2>individuals who were running.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the third.

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<v Speaker 2>Wave, I would say, came in on the back of

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<v Speaker 2>a armored police vehicle with an L RAD, good old

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<v Speaker 2>DJ L rad.

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<v Speaker 1>It brings it brings back all the memories.

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<v Speaker 2>And so from there they sort of launched into the forest,

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<v Speaker 2>launching tear.

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<v Speaker 1>Gas again also brings back all of the memories. Police

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<v Speaker 1>are starting to come back into the music festival. Fireworks

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<v Speaker 1>are happening in the woods near the living room.

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<v Speaker 10>It looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>The police that entered via the RC field advanced up

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<v Speaker 1>to join another group of cops who came in from

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<v Speaker 1>Wolani People's Park and were already in the woods. What

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<v Speaker 1>I first assumed were just fireworks were actually in exchange

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<v Speaker 1>of munitions, with cops firing explosive tear gas canisters into

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<v Speaker 1>the forest and people trying to hold the cops off

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<v Speaker 1>with fireworks.

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<v Speaker 10>Tear gas is in the woods. Fucked, it's hard. I

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<v Speaker 10>can't get any I didn't I didn't bring my gas

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<v Speaker 10>masks because this was a music festival.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the woods are completely caked and gas everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who's inside. I don't know how they're gonna get out.

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<v Speaker 1>Cops have the place surrounded. It's so gassed up in there.

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<v Speaker 10>Police raided.

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<v Speaker 1>They tear gased a section of the woods close to

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<v Speaker 1>the RCA field, kind of blocking off the RCA Field

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<v Speaker 1>from from the Wanni People's Park parking lot and the

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<v Speaker 1>camp sits nearby, So you couldn't like really get away

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<v Speaker 1>or run through that area because your breathing would stop,

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<v Speaker 1>as mine temporarily did as I tried, as I tried

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<v Speaker 1>to run through there, and then policer just took over

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<v Speaker 1>this entire section of southeast Atlanta, just this entire section

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<v Speaker 1>of the woods, all the intersections in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Area, except for the very small space at the music

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<v Speaker 2>festival was still going on during this entire time.

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<v Speaker 1>The section like right in front of the stage where

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<v Speaker 1>people continued to have the music festival for the next

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<v Speaker 1>few hours. As police were as like, I kid you not,

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<v Speaker 1>Like over five hundred police officers were in this surrounding area.

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<v Speaker 1>There was the most amount of police I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>respond to anything ever, it was wild.

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<v Speaker 10>I am currently heading out.

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<v Speaker 1>I will try to loop back around to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of People's Park because there's just no way through it

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<v Speaker 1>right now with all the tear gas. But a cop

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<v Speaker 1>van has pulled into the rc Field Music Festival. People,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them are study by the stage, others are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dispersing. Night's getting pretty hectic. Cops fully surrounding

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of People's Park and the music festival on

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<v Speaker 1>all sides. There was at least one individual of note

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<v Speaker 1>who was witnessed to be at the music festival the

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<v Speaker 1>entire time during the direct action, and they were one

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<v Speaker 1>of the very first arrests. Police chased this person down,

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<v Speaker 1>tased and violently tackled them. Were you on the festival

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<v Speaker 1>at that time?

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<v Speaker 18>I was around the festival at that time. I even

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<v Speaker 18>saw the police tackle someone at the festival and tackle

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<v Speaker 18>and tase an indigenous person at the festival. And initially

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<v Speaker 18>the police officer Georgia State Patrol and these are the

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<v Speaker 18>folks that were responsible for killing Tortigita and making up

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<v Speaker 18>a lie about it. They started running and there were

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<v Speaker 18>three people in front of them. All three of those

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<v Speaker 18>people started running and then there were two white folks

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<v Speaker 18>that veered off to the left and one Indigenous person

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<v Speaker 18>that veered off to the right.

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<v Speaker 8>Go figure, the.

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<v Speaker 18>Georgia State Patrol veered to the right and then tased

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<v Speaker 18>and tackled the indigenous person. And then and there's the

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<v Speaker 18>footage of this that may may not be released, where

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<v Speaker 18>I was trying to de escalate the situation because this

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<v Speaker 18>police officer, with no grounds to attack this person, is

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<v Speaker 18>choking them on the ground and then really just asking

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<v Speaker 18>you like literally what are you doing, Like why are

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<v Speaker 18>you doing and then the persons that I didn't do anything,

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<v Speaker 18>and then the Jorgia State Patrol officer responded, well, you ran, right,

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<v Speaker 18>as if running when somebody with a gun chasing you

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<v Speaker 18>is an admission of guilt of something. So the response

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<v Speaker 18>was nonsensical and stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're tear gassing the forest and again, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>grabbing from reports anyone who's who's running, anyone who who

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<v Speaker 2>you know rightfully runs from a police officer running at

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<v Speaker 2>them with an AR fifteen, which you know, we've been

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<v Speaker 2>around police all week, and like the instinct to run,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, even even now, is still pretty high.

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<v Speaker 1>No, absolutely, and if you've never been chased by police before.

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<v Speaker 1>Your first instinct isn't to like let them get you.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've had police just charge at me for filming

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<v Speaker 1>police brutality before, and yeah, you generally want to move away.

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<v Speaker 10>It is your immediate reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyone running at you with a gun is caused

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<v Speaker 2>for fear and a police officer even more so.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, I am out of the area.

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<v Speaker 1>Police have surrounded on basically every side of the line

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<v Speaker 1>People's Park, the section of the four people are camping

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<v Speaker 1>out of the music festival, All entrances and exits are stage,

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of intersections.

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<v Speaker 10>This police stage.

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<v Speaker 1>They're letting some people go, obviously they're arresting a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of other people. No clear indication on who they're arresting

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<v Speaker 1>or why. It's pretty chaotic right now.

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<v Speaker 2>They put out this officer needs help. Call that expanded

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<v Speaker 2>beyond just APD. But the first thing they did was

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<v Speaker 2>was calling every available APD officer. Fulton County Sheriff's Office

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<v Speaker 2>joint to cab County started to mount up, and then

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<v Speaker 2>of course the Georgia State Patrol definitely had to get

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<v Speaker 2>in on this action. So jurisdictionally wide or this multi

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<v Speaker 2>jurisdiction wide force of police amassed on Key Road with

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<v Speaker 2>the cab kind of coming in on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>I passed through at least five hundred individual police officers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that like that would check out because I walked a

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<v Speaker 1>decent a decent, decent ways, I passed by many an

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<v Speaker 1>intersection with at least fifty to one hundred cops was

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<v Speaker 1>stationed at like each intersection.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and we can't forget the Sandy Springs Police Department

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<v Speaker 2>also ends way down from outside the premier.

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<v Speaker 1>Multiple swat teams. There was like I think three different bearcats.

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<v Speaker 1>After I evacuated the area, I was still in shock

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<v Speaker 1>about how many police officers mobilized to raid the festival.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the biggest police response I've seen to anything

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta in the time that I've been here. This

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<v Speaker 1>is bigger than the police response is to most of

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<v Speaker 1>like Portland actions compared to like twenty twenty, massive, massive

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<v Speaker 1>amount of cops from multiple agencies taking over a huge

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<v Speaker 1>area of South Atlanta and de kep County. As the

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<v Speaker 1>second wave of police charged in and detained several music

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<v Speaker 1>festival attendees, panic spread throughout the crowd. Hundreds of people

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<v Speaker 1>rushed to the exits in an attempt to evacuate. Police

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<v Speaker 1>blocked exits and arrested, detained, or harassed and threatened those

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<v Speaker 1>trying to leave. One concertgoer reported that they received death

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<v Speaker 1>threats from an intruding officer quote you're going to get shot.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to put it, but you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get shot with a bullet unquote. That same person

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<v Speaker 1>who recorded that interaction also reported that you heard an

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<v Speaker 1>officer with his side arm drawn in the living room

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<v Speaker 1>is say, quote, I swear to God, I will fucking

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<v Speaker 1>kill you unquote. Some people opted for safety in numbers

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<v Speaker 1>and decided they'd rather stay together as a group as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to the risk of trying to escape through the

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<v Speaker 1>woods alone. That night, about one hundred and fifty people

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<v Speaker 1>congregated in front of the festival stage, and musicians that

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<v Speaker 1>stuck around continued to play music.

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<v Speaker 2>So the music festival continues unhindered until dusk, and about

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<v Speaker 2>then is when DJ l Rad comes up and officers

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<v Speaker 2>get out and call over like five people from the crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>And so at this point I think there's like somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>between one hundred seventy five to one hundred people still

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<v Speaker 2>at the music fest, watching the music, and people are

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<v Speaker 2>calling out from the stage like we have a legal

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<v Speaker 2>right to be here, this is public property.

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<v Speaker 1>We had we had dueling loud speakers trying to two

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<v Speaker 1>people having a regular conversation across a field via opposing

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<v Speaker 1>loud speakers.

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<v Speaker 2>Very Scott Pilgrim versus the world right, like.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as the police are trying to shut down

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<v Speaker 1>a concert, and there's like punks screaming into the bike

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<v Speaker 1>and police officers using the yell red to scream back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just amazing. I mean, the visuals of this whole

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<v Speaker 2>day I think are kind of really easy to imagine,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you're not there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Roughly after two hours of hunting down and detaining

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<v Speaker 1>stragglers from the festival, dozens of swat in riot gear

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<v Speaker 1>with high end rifles and armored vehicles slowly moved in

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<v Speaker 1>towards the stage. Police told festival goers that they had

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<v Speaker 1>three minutes to leave the festival under threat of arrest

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<v Speaker 1>for domestic terrorism, to which festivalgoers responded by shouting no.

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<v Speaker 1>In front of the stage. The crowd linked arms and

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<v Speaker 1>enchanted let us go home. And we have children who

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<v Speaker 1>apparently unable to mass arrest one hundred and fifty people.

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<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason, police called for five individuals from the

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<v Speaker 1>festival to engage in a brief discussion. After this odd

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<v Speaker 1>negotiation with a handful of random concertgoers, festival attendees were

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<v Speaker 1>told they had ten minutes to walk to their cars

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<v Speaker 1>and go home or else be charged with domestic terrorism.

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<v Speaker 2>About half the crowd has cars parked in the rc field,

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<v Speaker 2>and the police allow them to go to their cars

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<v Speaker 2>and leave, leaving like somewhere between you know, three dozen

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere around three dozen people without cars still remaining at

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<v Speaker 2>the festival, And this whole time they're also chanting, we

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<v Speaker 2>have kids, let us go, and like it's this very

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<v Speaker 2>big moment of solidarity that I've been told from like

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<v Speaker 2>people who were there that you could tell that everybody

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<v Speaker 2>was like really interested in keeping each other safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was weird because police, definitely they were letting

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<v Speaker 1>some people walk away and leave a place, some people

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<v Speaker 1>drive away, arresting others not really with no clear indication

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<v Speaker 1>for why they're letting some go and not letting others go.

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<v Speaker 1>But then this crowd of people around the stage were

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<v Speaker 1>eventually allowed to leave the music festival in big rent

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<v Speaker 1>of vans. The police then id'd the people who rented

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<v Speaker 1>the vans and were driving the vans, but everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>able to exit who stayed by the music festival. Around midnight,

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta Police Department posted a press release saying that

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five people have been detained, which was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>weird language because everyone assumed that those who had been

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<v Speaker 1>taken by police were all going to be arrested and charged.

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<v Speaker 1>But then less than an hour later, twelve individuals were

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly released from police custody back to Gresham Park. Since then,

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<v Speaker 1>witnesses and lawyers have claimed that police separated out people

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<v Speaker 1>with Atlanta addresses on their IDs and released those individuals,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the remaining twenty three people, mostly with out

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<v Speaker 1>of state ideas or a non Atlanta address, were arrested

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<v Speaker 1>and charged with domestic terrorism to continue the outside agitator narrative,

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<v Speaker 1>bringing the total number of people charged with domestic terrorism

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<v Speaker 1>to forty two. Ever, since Sunday night, there's been this

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<v Speaker 1>effort from a police and their media allies to frame

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<v Speaker 1>these arrests as if they happened at the scene of

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<v Speaker 1>the crime, alleging that the twenty three people arrested were

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<v Speaker 1>themselves torching equipment or actively engaged in domestic terrorism. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>all of the arrests took place almost a mile away

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<v Speaker 1>at the music festival, and even further away in some cases,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the parking lot, which is on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the forest from the north gate. To quote

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<v Speaker 1>an article in Truth Out by Candice Burned, quote, law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 1>failing to apprehend specific individuals at the site itself, indiscriminately

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<v Speaker 1>targeted the music festival, pouring into the field, campgrounds and

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<v Speaker 1>parking lot with weapons drawn. They issued commands, chased people down,

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<v Speaker 1>and threatened to shoot and arrest festival attendees. Still, major

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<v Speaker 1>news outlets all but ignored the fact that all arrests

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<v Speaker 1>occurred seemingly at random. During a police raid of the

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<v Speaker 1>nearby South River Music Festival, where people gathered to see

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<v Speaker 1>Zack Fox Live, to jump in a bouncycastle and enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the outdoors. Many attendees had little to no idea of

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<v Speaker 1>what had occurred at the cop City construction site. Those

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<v Speaker 1>who got lucky were forced to walk through tiergas to

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<v Speaker 1>get to their cars, while others were assaulted by police

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<v Speaker 1>and charged with domestic terrorism, risking thirty five years in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a clip from NBC's Today Show, We.

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<v Speaker 27>Got breaking news out of Atlanta over night. Dozens arrested

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<v Speaker 27>after what's being described as a coordinated criminal attack. It

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<v Speaker 27>happened at the future site of a police training center.

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<v Speaker 27>And this is Blaine Alexander's on the story for US

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<v Speaker 27>Blaine Good.

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<v Speaker 28>Officials say protesters burned construction vehicles and a trailer and

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<v Speaker 28>set off fireworks toward officers stationed nearby.

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<v Speaker 29>And this wasn't about a public safety training center.

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<v Speaker 30>This was about anarchy, and this was about the attempt

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<v Speaker 30>to destabilize.

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<v Speaker 28>Police point to a group of what they call outside agitators,

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<v Speaker 28>saying they left an event nearby, changed into black clothing,

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<v Speaker 28>and mounted a coordinated attack on construction equipment and police officers.

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<v Speaker 1>To quote a statement from the Sonic Defense Committee. Quote,

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<v Speaker 1>the indiscriminate brutalization and arrest of festivalgoers suggests that law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement agencies will go to great lengths to paint the

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<v Speaker 1>movement to stop Copcity and Defend the Atlanta Forest as

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<v Speaker 1>a criminal organization. It is, in fact, a broad, decentralized

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<v Speaker 1>movement with no ideological or organizational unity, only of shared goal.

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<v Speaker 1>They believe that the movement is made up of bad

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<v Speaker 1>actors who betray otherwise peaceful protesters, but the movement is

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<v Speaker 1>not committed to any particular tactic, instead accepting the diversity

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<v Speaker 1>of approaches to stop the project. The police claim that

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<v Speaker 1>the movement is not made up of any Atlantans, while

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta University Center students, local clergy, faith leaders, small businesses,

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<v Speaker 1>and dozens of locally famous artists and musicians organize themselves

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<v Speaker 1>within the movement. The police's false narrative and heavy handed

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<v Speaker 1>approach to dealing with the opposition to the Cop City

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<v Speaker 1>project is slowly starting to enclose them in. As the

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<v Speaker 1>movement grows and city and state officials refuse to see

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<v Speaker 1>the reality of what they are dealing with, their own

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<v Speaker 1>authority is being brought into question. If they are not careful,

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<v Speaker 1>the stakes of the movement will soon exceed the bounds

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<v Speaker 1>of the forest and Cop City. In fact, that process

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<v Speaker 1>may already have begun.

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<v Speaker 2>I think to talk about what happened, we kind of

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<v Speaker 2>do have to go back to put it in context

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<v Speaker 2>and going back to January that was the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the occupation or the you know, continuous encampments in Wilani

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<v Speaker 2>and then flash uh fast forward to to late January,

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<v Speaker 2>they get the LDP and so all of these people

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<v Speaker 2>who have been protecting the forest for so long are

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<v Speaker 2>now watching construction equipment roll in and they're watching clear

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<v Speaker 2>cutting and they can't do anything about it. And you

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<v Speaker 2>had that action, uh, just after Tortigita's death in January,

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<v Speaker 2>which was a very targeted you know, only two funders

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<v Speaker 2>and other supporters of cop City and you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a random police vehicle. But it wasn't really like this

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<v Speaker 2>this letting of energy. It was a very like specific

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<v Speaker 2>sort of purpose. And so you have this like build

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<v Speaker 2>up of energy that I think is really important to

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<v Speaker 2>keep in mind with with what is about to happen

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<v Speaker 2>in this story. And they so they can't do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you have Saturday where you see this massive

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<v Speaker 2>people return to the forest, and I think it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>unavoidable in retrospect to look at that and for them

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<v Speaker 2>not to have said, what can we do now that

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<v Speaker 2>we couldn't do before? So they gather and they do

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<v Speaker 2>what they couldn't do before they head over to the

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<v Speaker 2>construction site.

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<v Speaker 1>There had not been an action like this in the

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<v Speaker 1>woods for a long time. Bulldozers and equipment had not

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<v Speaker 1>been damaged in quite a while, but on Sunday, people

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<v Speaker 1>were able to use the safety in numbers that comes

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<v Speaker 1>with a week of action to feel more empowered to

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<v Speaker 1>take direct action against the actual machinery that is destroying

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<v Speaker 1>the forest and building cop City. Sunday's action can be

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<v Speaker 1>seen as a demonstration of the pent up righteous anger

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<v Speaker 1>from watching the slow destruction of the forest. Participants view

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<v Speaker 1>what happened as a justified strike against the active struction

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<v Speaker 1>of the forest, a strike back made an anger after

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<v Speaker 1>watching the Atlanta Police Foundation make steady progress over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of the past few months.

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<v Speaker 2>The day before, there was this chant that was taken

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<v Speaker 2>up by the entire crowd, and I think we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this and.

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<v Speaker 8>Earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>If you build it, we will burn it. And that

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<v Speaker 2>was something that if you looked all throughout the crowd,

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<v Speaker 2>like they were chanting everybody, everybody, like not just people

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<v Speaker 2>wearing camera or black block, like.

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<v Speaker 1>A thousand people, everybody, Yeah, a thousand people watching from

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<v Speaker 1>Gresham Park.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that this is that promise come true.

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday's action was itself a pretty unique moment in the

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<v Speaker 1>recent history of environmental and anti police struggles. Watching hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of people go on the offensive. To participate in a

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<v Speaker 1>mass coordinated sabotage in defense of both the forest and

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<v Speaker 1>targets of police of Islands felt like an unprecedented moment

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<v Speaker 1>in our modern paradigm of resistance in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>But the raid on the music festival on March fifth

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<v Speaker 1>was also just the start of an unparalleled wave of

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<v Speaker 1>police repression during this week of action, which we will

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<v Speaker 1>cover in the next episode. But throughout the whole week,

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<v Speaker 1>the assurance that copcity will never be built never faltered,

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<v Speaker 1>as demonstrated by common chance such as I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>we will win. So I'm going to end this episode

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<v Speaker 1>with the final chant from the Saturday a Gresham Park rally,

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<v Speaker 1>right before a thousand people marched to the Wallani Forest

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 31>We always in with the asslogan.

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<v Speaker 3>We're with the words of our.

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<v Speaker 32>Love or assonas schoor because we have a judy.

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<v Speaker 33>There's been so much blessed built here.

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<v Speaker 34>Repeat up to me, give us our duty, the flag

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<v Speaker 34>for our freedom.

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<v Speaker 20>It's our judy to wed.

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<v Speaker 10>Does not each other, irons at each other. I'm not

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<v Speaker 10>gonna lose flaun Change.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna loose Balanche.

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<v Speaker 35>I'm not annose, but godzizea.

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<v Speaker 1>Music festival audio courtesy of Unicorn Riot. Come Monday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>basically no one was in the forest. The police raid

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<v Speaker 1>the night prior pushed out most of the people gathered

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<v Speaker 1>for the music festival and week of action, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was still unclear how the rest of the week would

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<v Speaker 1>now proceed. This Monday happened to be the Jewish holiday Perham.

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<v Speaker 1>Initially there were plans to have a Perham celebration in

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<v Speaker 1>the forest that evening, but it was unknown if people

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<v Speaker 1>would feel comfortable returning to the woods. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>it could happen here. I'm Garrison Davis. This is episode

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<v Speaker 1>three of my mini series covering the March twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three Week of Action to defend the Atlanta Forest. Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>March sixth also happened to be the day of an

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta City Council meeting, and the Stop Coop City Clergy

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<v Speaker 1>coalition held a well attended press conference at noon outside

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<v Speaker 1>City Hall. Reverend Keana Jones opened up at the press

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<v Speaker 1>conference by making the Clergy's position clear.

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<v Speaker 36>We are the faith Coalition against Cop City, and we

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<v Speaker 36>are here so again raise our voices so that Mayor

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<v Speaker 36>Andre Dickens and the members of the City Council of

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<v Speaker 36>Atlanta know that we will not stand for the atrocities

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<v Speaker 36>that have been occurring. I will not stand for cop

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<v Speaker 36>City to go forward. The community came out and made

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<v Speaker 36>public comment for over seventeen hours when given an opportunity,

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<v Speaker 36>and said emphatically, no, we don't want your cop City.

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<v Speaker 13>We don't want more repression of black people.

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<v Speaker 36>We don't want more polluted air, we don't want less

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<v Speaker 36>green space in our community. We don't want more policing

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<v Speaker 36>and terrorizing of black, brown, indigenous bodies in our community.

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<v Speaker 1>Reverend Jones gave her own perspective as a local Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>with deep ties to the city.

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<v Speaker 36>So we are here as faith leaders today and we

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<v Speaker 36>are here to say, Mayor Dickens, if you didn't hear

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<v Speaker 36>us the first time, we are here once again to

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<v Speaker 36>let you know that we don't want cop City. This

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<v Speaker 36>is our community, this is our land. I am a

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<v Speaker 36>daughter of East Atlanta. I still live in East Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 36>I don't want cop City. My granny owns a home

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<v Speaker 36>that she's been in for almost fifty years in the

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<v Speaker 36>heart of East Atlanta village. She does not want cop City.

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<v Speaker 36>My neighbor across the street does not want Cop City.

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<v Speaker 36>The teachers at my daughter's school do not want Cop City.

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<v Speaker 1>She also addressed the outside agitators narrative that police and

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<v Speaker 1>media have continued to craft against force defenders, including by

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<v Speaker 1>only arresting and charging people thought to be from out

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<v Speaker 1>of town at the music festival that previous night.

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<v Speaker 36>So we're here today to make sure that we ring

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<v Speaker 36>the alarm and dispel the false narrative that it's outside

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<v Speaker 36>agitators who don't want this. We know that this is

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<v Speaker 36>the rhetoric that's been going on ever since abolition began,

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<v Speaker 36>that it's outside agitators. They said slaves didn't want to

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<v Speaker 36>be free, but it was white people from the North

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<v Speaker 36>who wanted it.

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<v Speaker 28>That's the lie.

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<v Speaker 36>They said that black people in the South didn't want

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<v Speaker 36>civil rights, but it was white people from the North.

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<v Speaker 36>That's a lie. Today they are claiming that the black

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<v Speaker 36>people love Cop City. It's outside agitators from elsewhere, and

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<v Speaker 36>that again is a lie. Simply because the police have

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<v Speaker 36>chosen to systematically arrest people from out of state doesn't

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<v Speaker 36>mean that what they're saying is the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Reverend Leoshe addressed to other faith leaders and ask them

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<v Speaker 1>to join in their calls to stop the cop City project.

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<v Speaker 16>We local Atlanta clergy and religious leaders representing diverse communities

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<v Speaker 16>call on clergy, religious leaders and people of faith in

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<v Speaker 16>moral conscience across this nation and in solidarity with local

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<v Speaker 16>Atlanta leaders to stop cop City, stop the swap, and

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<v Speaker 16>defend the Atlanta forests.

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<v Speaker 13>Wilani People's part.

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<v Speaker 37>Today, we're gathered for this press conference and we will

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<v Speaker 37>be delivering a letter to Atlanta City Council. But we

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<v Speaker 37>invite you to continue in this faithful work that we

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<v Speaker 37>are doing and contribute wherever you find.

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<v Speaker 13>Your space in this growing movement.

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<v Speaker 37>We call on clergy religious leaders, who are a moral

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<v Speaker 37>authority in our society, to use your power in support

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<v Speaker 37>of the forest protectors.

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<v Speaker 13>We are deeply.

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<v Speaker 37>Concerned for the greater Atlantic community and the implications for

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<v Speaker 37>the future of public safety in the United States if

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<v Speaker 37>Kopsudy moves forward.

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<v Speaker 1>At the press conference, the coalition presented a letter to

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<v Speaker 1>the City Council signed by over two hundred clergy members.

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<v Speaker 1>Reverend Leoshe also read it aloud.

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<v Speaker 37>Despite a record breaking amount of public comment opposing the facility,

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<v Speaker 37>Atlanta City councils still pass legislation to build cop City.

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<v Speaker 37>We are troubled by leadership that stops acting on the

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<v Speaker 37>will of the people and aligns itself instead with corporate

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<v Speaker 37>money and the dominant power structure. Urged on by the

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<v Speaker 37>message of peace and compassion in all our faiths, we

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<v Speaker 37>deplore escalating militarization by city and state government, most recently

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<v Speaker 37>since the police killing of Rayshard Brooks here in twenty

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<v Speaker 37>twenty by the Atlanta Police Department and Tortugita January eighteenth

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<v Speaker 37>of this year by Georgia Patrol. We applaud the rising

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<v Speaker 37>consciousness and the need to protect humans and the more

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<v Speaker 37>than human by resisting police violence everywhere.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, and may I add that in the face.

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<v Speaker 37>Of the violent raid that took place last night, as

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<v Speaker 37>city residents gathered in solidarity to defend this forest, that

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<v Speaker 37>is an example of the militarization that we are calling out.

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<v Speaker 37>Through violence and greed, these lands have been subjected to

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<v Speaker 37>centuries of abuse, from the forced removal of indigenous communities,

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<v Speaker 37>to serving as a plantation for enslaved African labor, to

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<v Speaker 37>the site of the old Atlanta prison farm in the

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<v Speaker 37>twentieth century that produced immense profits for the prison system.

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<v Speaker 13>Today, the sounds of berg.

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<v Speaker 37>Song from the forest canopy live alongside the sound of

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<v Speaker 37>gunfire and the adjacent APD firing range.

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<v Speaker 13>We are troubled.

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<v Speaker 37>By the commodification of community, land, water, and air on

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<v Speaker 37>which all of us depend. We are profoundly troubled by

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<v Speaker 37>the use of military tactics and escalated legal charges on

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<v Speaker 37>members of our community, suppressing legitimate resistance, while at the

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<v Speaker 37>same time clearcutting the forest trees despite not having the

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<v Speaker 37>appropriate permits. The lands and the people of Atlanta have

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<v Speaker 37>suffered violence for too long.

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<v Speaker 13>We say no more.

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<v Speaker 37>We declare with faith, commitment and hope that this land

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<v Speaker 37>will be a part of healing and repair. We Atlanta clergy,

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<v Speaker 37>religious leaders, and all of those across the nation and

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<v Speaker 37>world who are in agreement join our voices with calling

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<v Speaker 37>for the following, a complete stop of the cop City

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<v Speaker 37>project and cancelation of the Atlanta Police Foundation's lease, dropping

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<v Speaker 37>all charges against forest defenders and protesters. We demand an

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<v Speaker 37>independent investigation into the uses of domestic terrorism charges. We

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<v Speaker 37>demand an independent investigation into the killing of Manuel Tehran Tortugita.

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<v Speaker 37>We speak their name, for which recently released video footage

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<v Speaker 37>of the event suggests there was lying and deceit surrounding

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<v Speaker 37>the incident on part of law enforcement in their initial

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<v Speaker 37>reporting of the incident.

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<v Speaker 1>The Muscogee elder Miko Chabbon, Colonel spoke at the press

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<v Speaker 1>conference and called for land back and for the Muscogee

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<v Speaker 1>people to return and remtreat the Wailani Forest in community

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<v Speaker 1>with the black and brown residents of the area.

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<v Speaker 38>Our ancestors lived here for over thirteen thousand years, and

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<v Speaker 38>if you're to do the math correctly, this country that

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<v Speaker 38>we now call the United States is somewhere in the

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<v Speaker 38>neighborhood of two hundred and forty just over nearly two

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<v Speaker 38>years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I came here to the Launi Forest.

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<v Speaker 38>I came here with my own family, my own children,

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<v Speaker 38>with some of my elders, to just share a little

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<v Speaker 38>bit about how this territoryiness land feels to us as

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<v Speaker 38>Muskogee people, because, let it be known today, it was

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<v Speaker 38>not our choice to leave here. We did go to

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<v Speaker 38>war to protect these areas. We did go through much

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<v Speaker 38>burden to protect these areas, only to be forced to

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<v Speaker 38>leave here under military occupation, but also to be forced

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<v Speaker 38>to leave here after treachery, after illegally lands were taken

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<v Speaker 38>from us.

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<v Speaker 3>This is our homeland.

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<v Speaker 38>My ancestors for generation upon generation, for millennia are buried

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<v Speaker 38>on the very ground that you walk on every day.

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<v Speaker 38>And I think we have a say and how we

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<v Speaker 38>should live as a society in this day and time.

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<v Speaker 38>And so in this moment, our hope is to be

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<v Speaker 38>able to come back to rematriate, to take our lives

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<v Speaker 38>back and to the intimacy that we once had with

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<v Speaker 38>everything that grows here in what you now call the

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<v Speaker 38>state of Georgia, because no matter who we are and

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<v Speaker 38>where we come from, we have to have air, we

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<v Speaker 38>have to have water, we have to have the elements

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<v Speaker 38>of this earth to take care of us.

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<v Speaker 3>Regardless of what we think.

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<v Speaker 38>We're dependent on this earth Mother, and she has been

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<v Speaker 38>faithful in taking care of us. It's us that has

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<v Speaker 38>not been faithful and respecting her. Our hope is that

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<v Speaker 38>this earth is not destroyed before we even have a

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<v Speaker 38>chance to come back, that lives aren't destroyed before we

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<v Speaker 38>have a chance to come back. So today, in whatever way,

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<v Speaker 38>I come here to join the choruses of voices that

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<v Speaker 38>you hear all around you saying what is going on

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<v Speaker 38>now is a violence against all of creation? What is

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<v Speaker 38>going on now bringing death and harm and hurt is

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<v Speaker 38>a violence against all of creation. And we stand in

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<v Speaker 38>solidarity as Muskogie people. I stand in solidarity with the

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<v Speaker 38>voices that we hear of those tenants, those persons who

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<v Speaker 38>live in the land now. But my hope is now,

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<v Speaker 38>at this moment in time, that somehow we can change

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<v Speaker 38>the trajectory of our species and go into a direction

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<v Speaker 38>where we can value each other, and we can stop

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<v Speaker 38>the criminalizing of descent. We should be able to say no,

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<v Speaker 38>the increasing of the militarized forces out there does not

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<v Speaker 38>ever create peace. It only creates harm, and it only

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<v Speaker 38>harms those that are most vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the prayer that I carry today.

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<v Speaker 1>Reverend Darcy Jarrett joined in the call for a stewardship

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wallani Forest to be returned to the Muscogee people.

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<v Speaker 34>City Schools of Decatur has a of solidarity an acknowledgment

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<v Speaker 34>of harms to cab County and the City of Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 34>We call on you to make good on these words,

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<v Speaker 34>to give the land back to our indigenous siblings, so

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<v Speaker 34>that they, as they have stated and will do and

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<v Speaker 34>always have done, work in collaboration with the black and

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<v Speaker 34>brown community right there near where the site is outside

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<v Speaker 34>of the Wilawni Forest. The City of Atlanta is ready

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<v Speaker 34>to lease this land at just ten dollars an acre. Instead,

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<v Speaker 34>give this land to the native inhabitants. Repatriate this land

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<v Speaker 34>to the people to whom is their sacred call, to

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<v Speaker 34>defend and work in community with the black and brown

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<v Speaker 34>communities that are there. We call on you, Atlanta City Council,

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<v Speaker 34>to be the moral compass and to not just halt

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<v Speaker 34>the building of this structure, but to repatriate the land

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<v Speaker 34>to the sovereign Muskogee Nation, the sacred keepers of this land.

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<v Speaker 34>May it be so amen.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, Matthew Johnson spoke about the worrying amount of police

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<v Speaker 1>repression and violence the movement has already seen.

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<v Speaker 18>We're projecting by the end of the day, there will

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<v Speaker 18>be forty people that have domestic terrorism charges, many of

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<v Speaker 18>which just for being in a parking lot. I don't

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<v Speaker 18>know how anybody can accept this when you have a

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<v Speaker 18>projected forty people that are committed of domestic terrorism, not

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<v Speaker 18>one dead body. Meanwhile, we can't even show the bruise

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<v Speaker 18>on the police officer that was allegedly shut at but

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<v Speaker 18>our friend's ashes. We have the ashes of a friend

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<v Speaker 18>that we will spread. We can no longer accept this

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<v Speaker 18>as a people as at lanterns. If we can't figure

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<v Speaker 18>out away to fix public safety without lacking tons of

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<v Speaker 18>black kids up in the blackest city in America, every

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<v Speaker 18>person in that build that needs to step down. If

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<v Speaker 18>we can't do it here, we can't do it anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Both myself and Matt from the Atlanta Community Press Collective

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<v Speaker 1>were at the press conference and we met up after

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss the events of the day. During the press conference,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the media's line of questioning was very much

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<v Speaker 1>like aligned with the types of narratives being put out

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<v Speaker 1>by police in relation to the events that previous night,

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<v Speaker 1>the Sunday Direct Action and Music Festival. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>also worth noting that the people at the clergy event

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<v Speaker 1>did not openly like demonize the actions that people chose

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<v Speaker 1>to take on Sunday, And it was very much like

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<v Speaker 1>the media definitely gave them opportunities to try to throw

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<v Speaker 1>people under the bus and that did not happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we've seen that all throughout the week. Every

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<v Speaker 2>chance that the media is trying to throw somebody to

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<v Speaker 2>like call cause dissension or a divide, amongst the movement

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<v Speaker 2>has been really handily deflected by anyone who's come across it,

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<v Speaker 2>and the clergy did not just a good job of

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<v Speaker 2>like not falling into that trap, but of actually pointing

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<v Speaker 2>out how that line of thinking was like missing the

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<v Speaker 2>point and where the true violence was coming from this.

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<v Speaker 39>And so why are there a majority of people engaging

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<v Speaker 39>some funds coming from other states.

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<v Speaker 36>The reality of it is that the ones who are

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<v Speaker 36>engaging in violence are the police, and they're from right

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<v Speaker 36>here in Atlanta, Georgia. You got APD, you got Georgia

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<v Speaker 36>State Police, you got GBI, you got Georgia State troopers,

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<v Speaker 36>you got everybody except the mart of police who are

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<v Speaker 36>engaging in violence and terrorism against the people who are

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<v Speaker 36>standing against this illegal land swap. So I would suggest

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<v Speaker 36>that the next time you decide that you are going

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<v Speaker 36>to bring up your police rhetoric that you get from

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<v Speaker 36>whichever police source, you go ahead and discuss that with them.

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<v Speaker 13>Because we don't know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 36>But what we do know is what we're doing and

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<v Speaker 36>what we see from them that we know. I know

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<v Speaker 36>when I get hit by an officer. I know when

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<v Speaker 36>I see a mother with a child begging to be

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<v Speaker 36>let up off the ground because her children are with her.

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<v Speaker 36>I know when I see officers pointing a rifle inside

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<v Speaker 36>a bouncy house.

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<v Speaker 18>If I could just say, I'd like to just bring

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<v Speaker 18>up a story. Initially, the colonizers that came onto this

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<v Speaker 18>land attempted to use the indigenous folks as their slaves. However,

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<v Speaker 18>the indigenous folks knew the land so they could get away. Now,

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<v Speaker 18>when you ask me about why is it that you

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<v Speaker 18>keep catching people that aren't from here that might not

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<v Speaker 18>reflect the people that are actually involved in the resistance.

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<v Speaker 8>God, bless you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>After the press conference, people from the Clergy Coalition marched

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<v Speaker 1>to the front door and entered City Hall before making

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<v Speaker 1>it upstairs to sign up for public comment during the

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<v Speaker 1>city council meeting.

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<v Speaker 33>Hie, we shall not be moved. Fine for read now,

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<v Speaker 33>we shall not be moved.

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<v Speaker 20>Just like the street collided by the wall, We shall not.

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<v Speaker 1>The large group of the clergy and the people gathered

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<v Speaker 1>for the interfaith Coalition are now moving through City Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a whole bunch of cops here that looks relatively

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<v Speaker 1>nervous about the easily sized group of people. The scary

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<v Speaker 1>Christians are now invading City Hall lookout.

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<v Speaker 2>So usually in city Hall there there are several APD

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<v Speaker 2>officers who you know, just kind of hang out. But

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<v Speaker 2>while the clergy are walking up to city Hall, you

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<v Speaker 2>can look out and there is APD on every corner.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you enter into city Hall and there are

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<v Speaker 2>clusters of APD. There are I think four floors to

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<v Speaker 2>City Hall. There are clusters of APD on three sides

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<v Speaker 2>of every floor of City Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>After an unexpectedly long awards and proclamations ceremony, the public

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<v Speaker 1>comment section of the city council meeting finally began.

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<v Speaker 37>I'm standing here today with the Faith Coalition.

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<v Speaker 13>We are clergy and faith leaders.

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<v Speaker 37>We are citizens, and we are protectors of the land

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<v Speaker 37>that doesn't belong to us, but belongs to God. We

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<v Speaker 37>are deeply concerned for our community members, for ourselves, and

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<v Speaker 37>the implications for the future of public safety in the

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<v Speaker 37>United States if this cop city development goes forward. We

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<v Speaker 37>are asking for all people of faith, those of you

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<v Speaker 37>who sit on council, regardless of your tradition or background,

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<v Speaker 37>and those who stand with moral conscience, to stop the

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<v Speaker 37>cop city project. My faith convicts me and tells all

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<v Speaker 37>of us that there is a better way. We have

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<v Speaker 37>a prophetic, moral imagination and opportunity here to do something

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<v Speaker 37>different in Atlanta, to do something different for the South. Finally,

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<v Speaker 37>we're asking for a community process.

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<v Speaker 13>A community process.

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<v Speaker 37>Let us come together with moral imagination to envision how

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<v Speaker 37>the Wilani River forests can be the heart and lungs

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<v Speaker 37>of community wellness and healing, not more militarization of police.

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<v Speaker 37>We want a process that centers the voice and needs

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<v Speaker 37>of Muskokee leaders and community members, our Indigenous siblings, incarcerated

1:42:52.360 --> 1:42:55.760
<v Speaker 37>folks and surrounding prisons, families and neighbors who live in

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<v Speaker 37>cross proximity to the firing range and under police surveillance.

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<v Speaker 13>We want holistic.

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<v Speaker 37>Community safety, clean water, tree canopies, a future for every

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<v Speaker 37>single one of our children. May it be so.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone from the Muscogee Creek Reservation in Oklahoma spoke about

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<v Speaker 1>the desire to return to their homeland.

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<v Speaker 40>The Miko of our Hellbi ceremonial grounds back home in

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<v Speaker 40>Oklahoma has come here where our original fire was started,

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<v Speaker 40>and then it was taken all the way to Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 40>and now we want to bring it back to our

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<v Speaker 40>land and we want to start those fires again. Well,

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<v Speaker 40>when we come back. We need a land to come

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<v Speaker 40>back to. This is my first time coming back to

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<v Speaker 40>visit my homelands. I wanted to visit here where my

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<v Speaker 40>ancestors are, as a spiritual and personal journey. I didn't

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<v Speaker 40>want to come here to try to fight the violence

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<v Speaker 40>that I'm hearing. What I'm hearing is from the residence

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<v Speaker 40>is they need investments in housing and public spaces, and

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<v Speaker 40>not investment in further melody tries policing. They want investment

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<v Speaker 40>in the well being of incarcerated and not further violent incarceration,

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<v Speaker 40>but the well being of the community members. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 40>Moto Chichatis.

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<v Speaker 15>I turned seventy last week and I've lived in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 15>my whole life. I'm not an outsider, and I am

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<v Speaker 15>here to say to you that I find cop City

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<v Speaker 15>to be an abomination. My husband is a pastor of

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<v Speaker 15>a church a couple of miles from here, and he

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<v Speaker 15>could not be here today. He's out of town, but

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<v Speaker 15>he stands with me with these comments. But people who

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<v Speaker 15>have spoken before me have said the things I would say.

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<v Speaker 15>But I would like to say that I pretty much

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<v Speaker 15>agree with every single thing they have said about this

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<v Speaker 15>insanity that you all are calling a police safety training facility.

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<v Speaker 15>So I think you need to just cancel it, start

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<v Speaker 15>having some real conversations with the people of this city

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<v Speaker 15>to solve the real problems in a way that will

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<v Speaker 15>actually be effective. And this facility is not going to

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<v Speaker 15>be it. And the mayor's proposed task force is just

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<v Speaker 15>one more way to try to propagandize us to believe

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<v Speaker 15>that this is good for us, when we're not stupid

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<v Speaker 15>and we know it's just lipstick on a pig.

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<v Speaker 36>And if you heart in your heart, be reminded of

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<v Speaker 36>the story of another pharaoh who had a very hard heart,

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<v Speaker 36>who would not free the people of God, who would

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<v Speaker 36>not lead them to their land. You know what happened

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<v Speaker 36>in that story. Don't think that you will not suffer

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<v Speaker 36>the same fate. Don't think that the infrastructure of this

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<v Speaker 36>so called Black Mecca will not come toppling over, because

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<v Speaker 36>it will.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a couple like things to note about how

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<v Speaker 2>City Council public comment works. City Council doesn't tend to

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<v Speaker 2>pay attention to them. Essensibly, the only one who pays

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<v Speaker 2>attention is City Council President Doug Shipman, because it is

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<v Speaker 2>his job to call time and to call up the

1:45:59.760 --> 1:46:03.080
<v Speaker 2>next person. But you know, city councilors will like step

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<v Speaker 2>in and out of the room, get something to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>During the seventeen hours of public comment for cop City,

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<v Speaker 2>like one of them held a press conference.

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<v Speaker 1>There are two council members notoriously bad at paying attention

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<v Speaker 1>to public comment. Dustin Hillis who is the committee chair

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<v Speaker 1>for the Public Safety Legal Administration Committee. Basically he's in

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<v Speaker 1>charge of police. And the other is Mary Norwood, who

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<v Speaker 1>represents Buckhead and has what I would describe as ontologically

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<v Speaker 1>evil vibes. Buckheed is the northern, primarily white neighborhood in

1:46:34.479 --> 1:46:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta that is wanted to secede from the city, which

1:46:38.320 --> 1:46:43.559
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta has very uncomfortable segregation and redlining parallels. But

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<v Speaker 1>despite not paying attention during public comment, these two in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>both paid extra attention after public comment when Police Chief

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<v Speaker 1>Darren Sheerbaum gave testimony on what happened the night previous, Where.

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<v Speaker 41>There any firefighter or police city employee entries yesterday's event.

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<v Speaker 30>Because memory there was not. We're very fortunate that that

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<v Speaker 30>was the outcome. We're fortunate that there was no injuries.

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<v Speaker 41>If this continues, do we have the ability to deploy

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<v Speaker 41>even greater force to quill this. You know, the millions

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<v Speaker 41>of damage, millions of dollars of damage to public and

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<v Speaker 41>private properties.

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<v Speaker 30>We will make adjustments as those that used various tactics.

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<v Speaker 29>Yesterday was an escalation.

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<v Speaker 30>We had not seen this large number of individuals engaged

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<v Speaker 30>in this activity, and the aggressive manner in which the

1:47:38.200 --> 1:47:41.840
<v Speaker 30>officers were attacked was a significant change from what we

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<v Speaker 30>had seen before when it generally had been setting property

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<v Speaker 30>on fire. We'd seen police cars set on fire, win

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<v Speaker 30>those buses, but this was started as an attack against individuals,

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<v Speaker 30>men and women who are employees of this city, So

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<v Speaker 30>that was an escalation. Council Member hillis that we have

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<v Speaker 30>already made adjustments for both within our capability as well

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<v Speaker 30>as with our partners through out to Sheerbombs.

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<v Speaker 1>To testimony, it was interesting the degree to which the

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<v Speaker 1>Chief framed Sunday's direct action as primarily being targeted against

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<v Speaker 1>officers and not the destruction of equipment and machinery at

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<v Speaker 1>the North Gate. From the videos that APD themselves released

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<v Speaker 1>of the incident, it's clear that engagement with the police

1:48:20.600 --> 1:48:24.400
<v Speaker 1>was limited to keeping officers at bay as construction equipment

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<v Speaker 1>was targeted, and despite the continued referring of fireworks as

1:48:28.760 --> 1:48:33.400
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote mortars or explosives, as the chief himself admitted,

1:48:33.640 --> 1:48:39.200
<v Speaker 1>no officers were harmed during the direct action. In a

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<v Speaker 1>later episode, we'll hear more of Chief Sheerbaum's explanation of

1:48:43.160 --> 1:48:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Sunday nights events, as it gives insight into the police's

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<v Speaker 1>own surveillance capabilities and their ability to respond quickly to

1:48:51.000 --> 1:48:55.400
<v Speaker 1>direct actions. But until then, back to the events of Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>March sixth. After the city council meeting, I dressed up

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<v Speaker 1>in the gayest little outfit that I had with me

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<v Speaker 1>and went back to the woods for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>since Sunday Night for Perhum. Initially, people were very cautious

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<v Speaker 1>when entering the woods again, but as the night went on,

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<v Speaker 1>more and more people started to pour into the forest,

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<v Speaker 1>with some choosing to return to their camp. Later that night,

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed an experimental noise show in the living room,

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<v Speaker 1>probably to the detriment of people trying to sleep in

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<v Speaker 1>the area. I went to the Perham in the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to share my memory of the Veggietail's esther

1:49:33.640 --> 1:49:36.920
<v Speaker 1>story starring the Tickle Monsters. I got to bond with

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<v Speaker 1>a few expangelicals about that, So that was fine. Then

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<v Speaker 1>there was an experimental noise show in the forest, and

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<v Speaker 1>really I think it actually is worth talking about because

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<v Speaker 1>this was the first time.

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<v Speaker 10>People returned to the forest. Yeah, this was the.

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<v Speaker 1>First time that people like returned to the forest in

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<v Speaker 1>mass since Sunday, and he started to kind of feel

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<v Speaker 1>people's energy get reinvigorated. The woods became a place again

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<v Speaker 1>that people were able to like be in and like

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to be in community in the woods again.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is in keeping with sort of how this

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<v Speaker 2>movement is always responded to what we I guess could

1:50:10.040 --> 1:50:11.120
<v Speaker 2>call a loss, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Like twenty three people getting arrested in charged is is

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<v Speaker 1>a great loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the bounce back period is pretty quick. Like

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<v Speaker 2>the resiliency is continual and always strengthening every time that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the repression grows, like it does seem like

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<v Speaker 2>the resiliency grows with it.

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<v Speaker 1>People were not scared away from the woods. People still

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<v Speaker 1>still were like, no, this is something I care about.

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<v Speaker 1>I am still going to be in the woods. I'm

1:50:35.000 --> 1:50:38.120
<v Speaker 1>still going to defend these woods. And you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>have like there's always this essence of like fear kind

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<v Speaker 1>of kind of underlying whenever you're like in the Wollani forest,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, people have been arrested and charged for

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<v Speaker 1>laying in a hammock like that with another defendant, with

1:50:52.840 --> 1:50:56.800
<v Speaker 1>another defendant, and like, so you know that it is

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<v Speaker 1>it is fundamentally a risky place to be, but people

1:51:00.120 --> 1:51:03.439
<v Speaker 1>think the potential cost is worth it, Like they will

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<v Speaker 1>they continue to be here because they know this is

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<v Speaker 1>a winnable fight and they know that it is worth

1:51:08.680 --> 1:51:12.240
<v Speaker 1>it to defend these woods. Early Tuesday morning, a few

1:51:12.320 --> 1:51:16.479
<v Speaker 1>stop Coop City banner drops happened throughout the city. Two

1:51:16.479 --> 1:51:19.479
<v Speaker 1>people were detained by police during one of these banner drops,

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<v Speaker 1>but were later released with a traffic citation after being

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<v Speaker 1>interrogated separately and extensively photographed by law enforcement officials only

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<v Speaker 1>identified as quote Georgia Police and Homeland Security unquote. Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>was the start of a series of non violent direct

1:51:35.880 --> 1:51:41.360
<v Speaker 1>actions that were being launched around downtown and midtown. Tuesday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>I followed a small group that went to the headquarters

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<v Speaker 1>of Norfolk Southern, one of the Atlanta Police Foundation's financial

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<v Speaker 1>contributors and noted enemy of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>They entered the lobby and it's a very small group,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I think half of it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like five people and another five like press people.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So they enter and they read aloud a letter to

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<v Speaker 2>Alan Shaw, the CEO of Norfolk Southern, calling forward investment

1:52:07.560 --> 1:52:11.360
<v Speaker 2>from of Norfolk Southern from copsody, and immediately they are

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<v Speaker 2>met with uh a security guard screaming like go you

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<v Speaker 2>get out of the hobby. You're you're being criminally trust

1:52:18.920 --> 1:52:21.559
<v Speaker 2>you're being trespassed. You have to leave. One of the

1:52:21.600 --> 1:52:25.000
<v Speaker 2>other security guards runs around with cell phone camera and

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<v Speaker 2>like shoves it in everybody's faces, reaching rather rudely over

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<v Speaker 2>you to get my face, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They got very close to me entering the Norfolk Southern building.

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<v Speaker 23>Please this letter.

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<v Speaker 33>Explaining a horrible role in the city, can you please?

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<v Speaker 2>And so the whole thing lasts like less than five minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe ride about five minutes when they finished reading the letter,

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<v Speaker 2>Like all they asked was that the letter go to

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<v Speaker 2>the CEO.

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<v Speaker 8>YEP.

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<v Speaker 1>While people were inside the headquarters, security called ns Police,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the Norfolk Southern Police, who are legally allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to arrest people.

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<v Speaker 20>Anyone you can see.

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<v Speaker 5>For your building.

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<v Speaker 2>But nobody was arrested at that non violent direct action.

1:53:36.400 --> 1:53:38.760
<v Speaker 2>The whole thing was over pretty quickly, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as we were walking out, we saw like the the

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<v Speaker 2>a force of Norfolk Southern Police like swarm kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the exterior of the campus and like keep an eye

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<v Speaker 2>out on things.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we moved over to Woodriff Park, which was

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<v Speaker 1>the meeting place for these non violent direct actions that

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<v Speaker 1>happened about every every day at noon starting on starting

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday. It's Tuesday, March seventh, around noon, there's about

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<v Speaker 1>fifty or so people gathered in Woodriff Park who are

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<v Speaker 1>heading out and marching to go stop by two of

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta Police Foundation corporate funders.

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<v Speaker 2>We roll up and I think at that point they

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<v Speaker 2>were like twenty ish protesters.

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<v Speaker 14>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It started off very small. There was no police, like

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<v Speaker 2>no real visible police presence. They were like maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>cruiser or two like kind of around and actually start

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<v Speaker 2>to gather and kind of talk about like what their

1:54:27.560 --> 1:54:30.800
<v Speaker 2>plan is for the day, which was just to march

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<v Speaker 2>around to three different sites. They wanted the EIGHTE and

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<v Speaker 2>T Building, the Georgia Pacific Building, and GSU Georgia State University.

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<v Speaker 1>They are they are now leaving Woodriff Park. They got

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<v Speaker 1>to Georgia Pacific, one of the cop City financial backers.

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<v Speaker 1>Without much incident and without much in terms of visible

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<v Speaker 1>police presence, people called on Mayor Dickens, who is the

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<v Speaker 1>chair of the board of directors for Georgie Pacific, to

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<v Speaker 1>cancel the Atlanta Police Foundation lease of the land that

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<v Speaker 1>copp City is slated to be built on.

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<v Speaker 32>Mayor Diggis, we want you to cancel this leak. We

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<v Speaker 32>know that you have the authority to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>They finished up that Georgia Pacific, they set up a

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<v Speaker 1>little vigil for Torti Guita.

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<v Speaker 2>And from Georgia Pacific they began their trek to the

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<v Speaker 2>AT and T building.

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<v Speaker 1>They left a little vigil for Torti Ghita in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the Georgia Pacific Center and the group of like

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<v Speaker 1>more than fifty people are continuing to march north. Police

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<v Speaker 1>eight to ten police officers are directly behind them, and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole bunch of police cars are blocking Peachtree along

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<v Speaker 1>the path to AT and T. Was the APF's headquarters

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<v Speaker 1>just across the street, and as the crowd approached this intersection,

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of police ballooned massively in the block around

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlantic Police Foundation headquarters. There's got to be about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty to forty officers station and walking off the entrance

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<v Speaker 1>to the APF, and also just like following the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>around as they're as they're marching through the sidewalks. There's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely over god, there's I think around seventy five officers

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<v Speaker 1>deployed in this area right now.

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<v Speaker 10>The number keeps growing.

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<v Speaker 1>As we start walking down different sidewalks and different streets,

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<v Speaker 1>you just see more officers that are already stationed.

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<v Speaker 2>There are fifty activists and what certainly over one hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>some were probably between one hundred, one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>police officers started marching not like behind, not in front,

1:56:36.960 --> 1:56:40.040
<v Speaker 2>but directly beside the march, sort of pinning the march

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<v Speaker 2>to the wall and like essentially kettling the march.

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<v Speaker 1>There was police station in front, there was police station behind,

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<v Speaker 1>and police stationed on the side. It was surrounding the

1:56:48.280 --> 1:56:51.640
<v Speaker 1>surrounding like these fifty people who were simply walking on

1:56:51.680 --> 1:56:55.320
<v Speaker 1>the sidewalk stumbling upon a new group of officers.

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<v Speaker 10>Got to be about one hundred officers in this area

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<v Speaker 10>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point, a police vehicle was just parked on

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<v Speaker 1>the sidewalk, completely blocking it. During this entire time, police

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<v Speaker 1>were blocking all of the traffic in these intersections and roads.

1:57:09.360 --> 1:57:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Driving wrong way up a one way like just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>doing police things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a Doorida State University canine unit. This blocking off

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<v Speaker 1>the entire sidewalk next to a Fulton County Sheriff's vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to make it impossible for people to actually

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<v Speaker 1>move on the sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 10>But for the most part, if.

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<v Speaker 1>People have been able to move around the police and

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<v Speaker 1>keep their movement going instead of just stalling in one

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<v Speaker 1>spot or like trying to physically confront what is now

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<v Speaker 1>like hundreds and hundreds of law enforcement officers from Fulton

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<v Speaker 1>County Sheriffs and Atlanta Police Department and even like Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>State University Police.

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<v Speaker 10>So the group is split up in.

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<v Speaker 1>Between two streets right now because people are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>follow the follow the crossing signals because otherwise police are

1:57:54.480 --> 1:57:57.920
<v Speaker 1>going to tackle and violently assault people. No one was arrested,

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<v Speaker 1>People marched to their perspective locations.

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<v Speaker 2>People very pointedly kept to laws. There was a couple

1:58:04.520 --> 1:58:07.280
<v Speaker 2>of times when like the crosswalk changed and the group

1:58:07.360 --> 1:58:09.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of had to split. They would stay and wait

1:58:09.640 --> 1:58:12.160
<v Speaker 2>until the crosswalk went back to walk, and then crossover

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<v Speaker 2>and join it's.

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<v Speaker 1>So funny that the cops are so insistent if you

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<v Speaker 1>stepped on the street, you're going to get arrested, and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure people stay on the side of walks.

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<v Speaker 10>But the result of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that all the cops are standing in the street

1:58:23.200 --> 1:58:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and they're blocking off like miles of traffic downtown Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>people just arrived at the fifty one Peachtree Center Avenue

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<v Speaker 1>AT and T Building in downtown Atlanta. Police were already

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<v Speaker 1>stationed in front of the AT and T building, so

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't much to do. After a brief speech talking

1:58:40.280 --> 1:58:43.400
<v Speaker 1>about AT and T's contributions to the Police Foundation and

1:58:43.520 --> 1:58:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Cop City, the crowd moved on. Now people are turning

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<v Speaker 1>west in the opposite direction from the AT and T headquarters,

1:58:52.200 --> 1:58:56.800
<v Speaker 1>heading back into the Woodruff Park area where this march began.

1:58:57.760 --> 1:59:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Police with long guns here. Finally, the crowd stopped at

1:59:01.840 --> 1:59:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Georgia State University and talked about GSU's connections to the

1:59:05.200 --> 1:59:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Police Foundation. What is of note for this action,

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<v Speaker 1>and really all of the actions that happened the next

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<v Speaker 1>few days, is not what the protesters did. It's the

1:59:14.200 --> 1:59:18.160
<v Speaker 1>police's disproportionate response to just fifty people walking on the sidewalk,

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<v Speaker 1>chanting and giving short speeches outside of businesses tied to APF.

1:59:24.200 --> 1:59:27.360
<v Speaker 2>With a small line of officers in front of GSU.

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<v Speaker 2>They gave their last round of speeches and sort of

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<v Speaker 2>dispersed for the day before.

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<v Speaker 32>We wrap today and gave these clouds something else to

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<v Speaker 32>go do.

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<v Speaker 10>We will be out here.

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<v Speaker 6>We won't be out here for the rest.

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<v Speaker 42>Of the week, for the rest of the hunt, for

1:59:42.080 --> 1:59:43.040
<v Speaker 42>the rest of that year.

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<v Speaker 20>We won't fight.

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<v Speaker 10>That's here we wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the police are now grouping up and opening

1:59:58.480 --> 2:00:02.480
<v Speaker 1>up the sidewalk so people can actually It seems officers

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<v Speaker 1>were in fact instructed to make arrests during this action,

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<v Speaker 1>but for some reason did not follow through on those orders.

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<v Speaker 1>According to scanner audio from Atlanta Police Department's SWAT team.

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<v Speaker 8>That's about of them.

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<v Speaker 5>The problem is they've been telling them to make a risk,

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<v Speaker 5>but also is not taking a risk.

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<v Speaker 8>I guess they weren't supposed to. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 10>But un lit with that, we'll just hold what we

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<v Speaker 10>got at fawn as leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>Extensive police activity continued later that night. At around five

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<v Speaker 1>thirty to six pm, police started staging around the forest

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that usually indicates that a raid is forthcoming.

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<v Speaker 1>Word spread around the recovering encampment that police could be

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<v Speaker 1>preparing for a raid.

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<v Speaker 2>So the initial reports were like that there were fifty

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<v Speaker 2>police officers staged at Key Road and ready to go,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the Decab County Swat starts to roll up

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<v Speaker 2>at the fire station, and I would say a fair

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<v Speaker 2>amount of like panic starts to set it at camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Multiple multiple police copters are are getting flown overhead, multiple

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<v Speaker 1>different SWAT teams are being brought in. At least like

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<v Speaker 1>three or four different agencies are stationing officers around the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it's estimated that at least one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty police officers were being staged in the area directly

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding the forest and in the area by the power

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<v Speaker 1>line cut on Key Road.

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<v Speaker 2>And it should be said that you know, up until

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<v Speaker 2>this point, the police have never brought in that many

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<v Speaker 2>resources to any protest action that I'm aware of, and

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<v Speaker 2>not come in and engaged. So I was with a

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<v Speaker 2>group offsite who like immediately began to fear, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for they wouldn't be able to get back to their

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<v Speaker 2>camp size, they wouldn't be able to get their gear,

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<v Speaker 2>They wouldn't be able to get their medication, and that,

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<v Speaker 2>from what I understand, was the general vibe around. But

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<v Speaker 2>nothing happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing seemed to happen, and then at around seven police

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<v Speaker 1>started to almost like express confusion on what was going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and then everyone else expressed confusion for why the police

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<v Speaker 1>were confused. And we think we've kind of put together

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<v Speaker 1>what may have happened. So Clark, what is suspected of

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<v Speaker 1>going down here?

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<v Speaker 2>So the one thing that police don't understand and probably

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<v Speaker 2>will never understand, is humor. Now, they become the butt

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<v Speaker 2>of the joke often, but they don't understand comedy. So

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<v Speaker 2>at seven o'clock that evening was scheduled Comedy in the Forest.

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<v Speaker 2>And from what we've gathered, the police thought that the

2:02:43.160 --> 2:02:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Comedy in the Forest event was going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>cover for another Sunday night like action.

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<v Speaker 1>So this event was scheduled on the public Defend the

2:02:52.520 --> 2:02:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Forest calendar that anyone can look at online is

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<v Speaker 1>this Comedy in the Woods event for people to tell

2:03:00.680 --> 2:03:05.000
<v Speaker 1>jokes around a campfire. And I guess they thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was like it was like this event that was like

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<v Speaker 1>a red herring so that people could then go do

2:03:10.360 --> 2:03:14.200
<v Speaker 1>violent militancy in around the woods. So when seven o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>came and went, like police were expecting people to like

2:03:17.480 --> 2:03:19.840
<v Speaker 1>arrive at the woods or something, and that just didn't happen,

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<v Speaker 1>because it turns out a few minutes before seven o'clock,

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<v Speaker 1>this comedy event was canceled for like unrelated reasons. The

2:03:26.360 --> 2:03:29.760
<v Speaker 1>organizer had had things come up, So this event just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen. But there still was comedy in the woods.

2:03:34.240 --> 2:03:37.360
<v Speaker 1>It just was that the police wasted probably over one

2:03:37.440 --> 2:03:43.440
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars mobilizing over one hundred officers. I mean, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>I think some people in the woods were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had some frustration that that that you know, they experienced

2:03:49.720 --> 2:03:52.839
<v Speaker 1>this fear of this possibly incoming rate that then resulted

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<v Speaker 1>in there being nothing. I think it's always important to

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<v Speaker 1>when people are relaying information, they relay information that is

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<v Speaker 1>no without like unadue speculation. So like it is a

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<v Speaker 1>fact to say that there's over one hundred cops stationing

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<v Speaker 1>by the woods, and they've never had that many cops

2:04:09.120 --> 2:04:11.760
<v Speaker 1>there before without doing some sort of raid or some

2:04:11.800 --> 2:04:15.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of some sort of like activity in the forest.

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<v Speaker 2>And part of what I've heard go on since then

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<v Speaker 2>was you know, some very generative conversations about how they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to take into account like this, this new paradigm

2:04:24.160 --> 2:04:28.080
<v Speaker 2>that developed that night, And I think that again speaks

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<v Speaker 2>to sort of just how the movement continues to develop

2:04:30.800 --> 2:04:34.280
<v Speaker 2>and grow and like you know, handle new new challenges

2:04:34.320 --> 2:04:35.280
<v Speaker 2>and shifts.

2:04:35.880 --> 2:04:38.880
<v Speaker 1>So with the forest camp is still intact, the week

2:04:38.920 --> 2:04:42.560
<v Speaker 1>of action continued on as planned, with another downtown nonviolent

2:04:42.600 --> 2:04:44.720
<v Speaker 1>direct action that next morning.

2:04:45.200 --> 2:04:49.520
<v Speaker 2>So Wednesday and noon is a lot smaller of direct

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<v Speaker 2>action than the day before.

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<v Speaker 1>It starts with like a dozen people. It slowly grows

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<v Speaker 1>to like a few dozen, but yeah, it started extremely,

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<v Speaker 1>extremely small. So this was one difference from Tuesday is

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<v Speaker 1>that when we arrived, police already had a visible presence

2:05:02.880 --> 2:05:06.800
<v Speaker 1>in downtown, stationed around Woodriff Park. So a group of

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<v Speaker 1>people just launched from Woodriff Park, they kind of split

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<v Speaker 1>off in different different little sub subgroups. Lots of people

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<v Speaker 1>are just stationed outside of Marta Stops handing out flyers,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is what people are doing right now. Police

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<v Speaker 1>seem relatively confused and are trying to like mobilize the

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<v Speaker 1>different areas where they feel like something might happen. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's just people handing out flyers.

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<v Speaker 2>And they decided to split into groups and engage in

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<v Speaker 2>like just some typical outreach activity that you would see,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, from any group, like just passing out flyers

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<v Speaker 2>and pamphlets and attempting, from what I saw, to have

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<v Speaker 2>like one on one conversations with anyone who wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>So, this this group that it broke off into these

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<v Speaker 1>smaller subgroups. The group that we kind of accompanied stationed

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<v Speaker 1>themselves around some Marta stops around I believe it was

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<v Speaker 1>like the it was the Peachtree Lata station prep. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they stationed at the like the three different exits

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<v Speaker 1>or entrances for that, just just handing out flyers, handing

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<v Speaker 1>out leaflets, trying to talk to anybody who walks by.

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<v Speaker 1>Another group of people standing outside of a public transit

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<v Speaker 1>spot handing out flyers, probably like I don't know, four

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<v Speaker 1>or five other small, small groups doing similar things throughout downtown,

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<v Speaker 1>which means police have a lot more places to be

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to just following one big group.

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<v Speaker 2>The group that we followed had its own police presence

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<v Speaker 2>follow it, and then when they split into three more groups,

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<v Speaker 2>each group had its own police presence follow it, and

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<v Speaker 2>police stuck to the protesters the entire time. And of course,

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<v Speaker 2>like there's white transport vans that are full of cops

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<v Speaker 2>kind of driving by.

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<v Speaker 1>Thin white van full of police officers just showed up

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<v Speaker 1>across the street. Army green tan SWAT vehicle just parked

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<v Speaker 1>a block away from the Atlanta Police Foundation headquarters. There

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<v Speaker 1>was an Atlanta SWAT vehicle parked outside of the Hooters.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally normal response, totally normals. And so the leafleting goes

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<v Speaker 2>on for you know, like forty five minutes, and then

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<v Speaker 2>all of the groups start to gather together conveniently with

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<v Speaker 2>the group that like we had embedded with.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, there's actually a pretty decent number of people

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<v Speaker 1>gathered here for the flywering event today. You know, normal

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<v Speaker 1>police responds to people handing out flyers. Just fifty officers

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<v Speaker 1>in the SWAT team. But yeah, there's probably at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>like two or three dozen people that have kind of

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<v Speaker 1>all converged together. It started off very small, people were

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<v Speaker 1>very very spread out. They splintered off into little smaller groups,

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<v Speaker 1>but now they've all kind of coalesced together back again.

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<v Speaker 1>So all the little subgroups kind of meet up on

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Jung and peach tree right next to the Hooters

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<v Speaker 1>and the hard Rock Cafe.

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<v Speaker 2>This area is like the business district, so in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the day, it's like really busy. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>fairly like good spot to pass out leaflets.

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<v Speaker 1>So they are passing out these leaflets. Pedestrians are still

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<v Speaker 1>able to like walk through the side walks. It's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty chill. And then APD approaches the crowd, like

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<v Speaker 1>the APD has already been around this area. There's there's

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<v Speaker 1>this vehicle across the street watching people hand out flyers.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Lieutenant Neil Welch approaches the crowd and gives

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<v Speaker 1>them a dispersal order.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, can I read it this first order?

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<v Speaker 17>All right?

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<v Speaker 43>So I'm Lieutenant Neil Welch, a police officer, City of Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 43>I hereby declare that, being on this sidewalk, you are

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<v Speaker 43>obstructing or repeating the normal and reasonable movement a pedestrian

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<v Speaker 43>traffic and violation of Atlanta City ordinates. Okay, and the

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<v Speaker 43>name of the people is Saya, Georgia. I hereby command

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<v Speaker 43>that all present in the sidewalk, all present here in

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<v Speaker 43>the sidewalk immediately exit the street or the roadway or sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 43>If you do not do so, you may be detained

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<v Speaker 43>or arrested. Should you fail to exit the sidewalk in

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<v Speaker 43>accordace with this lawful command, you shall be in violation

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<v Speaker 43>of Section one five zero two six six substructing pedestrian traffic,

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<v Speaker 43>which prehibits standing are being on any street, roadway, or

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<v Speaker 43>sidewalk in a manner to obstructor impede the normal or

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<v Speaker 43>reasonable pedestrian traffic.

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<v Speaker 10>Cops threatened arrest and detainment.

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<v Speaker 1>They claimed that people were blocking the sidewalk, which they

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely were not. I was walking freely, as was all

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<v Speaker 1>of like downtown pedestrian traffic. They were not blocking anything.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is pretty silly, utterly, utterly ridiculous response

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<v Speaker 1>to people handing out flyers. So they were told they

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<v Speaker 1>cannot be on the sidewalk. Obviously they can't be on

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<v Speaker 1>the street. Where are you allowed to protest if not

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<v Speaker 1>the sidewalk or the street. Seemed like very like flimsy

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<v Speaker 1>legal footing. But obviously they police can arrest anyone they

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<v Speaker 1>want to at any time for any reason. So people

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<v Speaker 1>decided to move. They cross over the street, they walk

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<v Speaker 1>like a block north, they cross the street again, and

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<v Speaker 1>they they move onto this part of the sidewalk that

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<v Speaker 1>is like really large, like a massive, massive open open

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<v Speaker 1>section that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right in front of the mall. So it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's meant to like have a bunch of people passed

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<v Speaker 2>by it.

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<v Speaker 1>So people continue to hand out flyers.

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<v Speaker 10>While this is happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, there's another group who comes in to the side

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<v Speaker 2>of Petree Center Mall and enters the mall to find

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<v Speaker 2>Mayor Andre Dickens. There are a couple of boards in

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<v Speaker 2>Atlanta that stipulate the mayor is like the head of

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<v Speaker 2>the board, and this is one of them, and it

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<v Speaker 2>meets in Peatree Center Mall as one does.

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<v Speaker 1>So the mayor is having a meeting in the mall.

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<v Speaker 2>Office space is you know, sort of above the mall,

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<v Speaker 2>and this group of.

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<v Speaker 1>People from the Muscogie Nation enter and try to meet

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<v Speaker 1>up with the mayor to hand off a letter.

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<v Speaker 44>Objection to objection, we have a letter being delivered from

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<v Speaker 44>the Creek Nation on behalf of Muscogee Creek Spiritual Leadership, and.

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<v Speaker 31>I came all the way on the trial of tears

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<v Speaker 31>to deliver this letter to you folks. We want you

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<v Speaker 31>to know that the contemporary Muscogee people are now making

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<v Speaker 31>their journey back to our homelands, and hereby give notice

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<v Speaker 31>to Mayor Andrew Dickens, the Atlanta City Council, the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 31>Police Department, the Atlanta Police Foundation, the Dakob County Sheriff's Office,

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<v Speaker 31>and so called copp City that you must immediately vacate

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<v Speaker 31>Muscogee homelands and cease violence and policing of Indigenous and

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<v Speaker 31>Black people and Muscogee lands. We lived as stewards and

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<v Speaker 31>in relationship to this land for more than thirteen thousand

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<v Speaker 31>years until the illegitimate State of Georgia negotiated with the

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<v Speaker 31>Tyrant Andrew Jackson for the militarized for the militarized force

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<v Speaker 31>removal of Muscoge and Cherokee relatives to Indian territories. Mayor Dickens,

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<v Speaker 31>can I give this letter to you? He got one, Mayor,

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<v Speaker 31>we want to talk to you about our homelands.

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<v Speaker 13>A Muskogee Cree people.

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<v Speaker 2>Three indigenous an activists along with Kamal Franklin arrive and

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<v Speaker 2>they find the mayor. They enter the board meeting and

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<v Speaker 2>they begin to read this letter from the Muscoge Nation aloud.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the letter it essentially says that Atlanta is

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<v Speaker 2>being evicted out of the Wui Laanni forest and the

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<v Speaker 2>most Scogi people are going to return and reclaim their

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<v Speaker 2>ancestral land. Mayor Dickens, in true mayor fashion, bolts away

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<v Speaker 2>from this, running through an exit door, which is then

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<v Speaker 2>like blocked by a guard, which I think that has

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<v Speaker 2>its own like set of legal issues, essentially just ignoring

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<v Speaker 2>them over his shoulder. He calls out, I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>copy of the letter and hides just completely. Trying to

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<v Speaker 2>escape is not a good look for him.

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<v Speaker 1>The Atlanta Police Department APEX Swatch team was called to

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<v Speaker 1>the mall, and right as the activists were able to exit,

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<v Speaker 1>the special police units rushed into the building, finding no one.

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<v Speaker 1>By now, the police repression during this week of action

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<v Speaker 1>far exceeded police activity during any of the prior weeks

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<v Speaker 1>of action, and this trend would continue as the week

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<v Speaker 1>entered its last few days. The next episode will wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up our coverage for the week, as well as contain

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<v Speaker 1>a bit more analysis of the police repression and the

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<v Speaker 1>fallout of Sunday's direct action. But then there will be

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<v Speaker 1>a fifth bonus episode that gives an overview of what's

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<v Speaker 1>happened in the Malani Forest in the intervening two months.

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<v Speaker 1>See you on the other side, Welcome back to it

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<v Speaker 1>could happen here. I'm Garrison Davis. This is episode four

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<v Speaker 1>of my mini series and detailing the March twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three week of action to stop cop City in Atlanta, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode, we'll be hearing from a lot of new

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<v Speaker 1>people as we close out the day to day coverage

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<v Speaker 1>of this week of action. One of the last big

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<v Speaker 1>organized rallies was on Thursday night and it was put

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<v Speaker 1>on by community movement builders and other black led groups

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<v Speaker 1>from Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>The big event Thursday night was a six o'clock rally

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<v Speaker 2>that met at the Martin Luther King National Historic Site.

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<v Speaker 1>There was police stationed at King Center before anyone got there,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw like dozens and dozens of police cars going by.

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<v Speaker 2>All around the site are various quick response forces and

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<v Speaker 2>riot cops just ready.

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<v Speaker 35>To move in.

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<v Speaker 1>Large police response in the area already, as has been

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<v Speaker 1>expected for the past few days. Multiple Sandy Springs police

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<v Speaker 1>buses were driving by. There was multiple unmarked white vans

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<v Speaker 1>full of officers. The areas crawling with police cars and

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<v Speaker 1>now there's a small detail of officers across the street

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<v Speaker 1>from the people gathering here in the park.

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<v Speaker 2>We are currently surrounded on every side by groups of

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<v Speaker 2>police officers in riodegear. The crowd started off like actually

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<v Speaker 2>fairly decently sized, maybe like fifty people, and then continued

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<v Speaker 2>as well as the speeches progressed to I would say

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<v Speaker 2>like two hundred two hundred fifty, maybe even a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more. They were passing out signs, so like anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who came, like they had a sign ready for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Andre Dickins is a sellout of course, as a very

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<v Speaker 2>popular one. There were stop Coop City like banners that

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<v Speaker 2>people could like hold atl of verse twelve, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just a bunch of like really clever sort of protest

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<v Speaker 2>slogans and things that people can get behind. The makeup

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<v Speaker 2>of the crowd was definitely leaned like far less like

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<v Speaker 2>white anarchists than certainly the accusations of this movement, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>more representative of the movement as a whole, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>was a mix of a bunch of different people. I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, like it probably accurately reflected Atlanta demographics.

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<v Speaker 1>Defend the forest signs and banners and being handed out

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the crowd. Other people are passing around the Jail

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<v Speaker 1>Support number and Jill Support contact information.

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<v Speaker 10>People are starting to get ready.

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<v Speaker 2>So it meets it at six o'clock and for about

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<v Speaker 2>an hour and a half we listened to a series

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<v Speaker 2>of speeches as the crowd begins to swell.

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<v Speaker 32>So we are here in solidarity together today to make

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<v Speaker 32>it clear to the mayor that he's not gonna keep

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<v Speaker 32>lying on our names. They'll literally be building the mock

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<v Speaker 32>city of Atlanta practice how to repress life.

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<v Speaker 17>They kill.

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<v Speaker 13>We find it.

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<v Speaker 20>Ridiculous, we find it disgusting.

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<v Speaker 32>We find it embarrassing that a mayor Andre Tickets would

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<v Speaker 32>fix this, not to say that black people what if

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<v Speaker 32>we killed by.

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<v Speaker 33>The woolie that black people walk clock city.

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<v Speaker 42>Yeah, the mayor must have for guy in that our

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<v Speaker 42>ancestors will literally fighting abolition since they were brutally brought

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<v Speaker 42>to this country. They were fighting for freedom, fighting the

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<v Speaker 42>original police right, the slave patrols that captured black bodies

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<v Speaker 42>to take them back to their white masters.

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<v Speaker 20>He's talking to the same.

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<v Speaker 42>Black people whose elders were fighting here in the same

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<v Speaker 42>streets in the sixties.

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<v Speaker 32>And the seventies to stop police occupation of our communities.

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<v Speaker 20>That's right.

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<v Speaker 32>Resistance to police, resistance to state violence is literally in

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<v Speaker 32>our blood as black people.

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<v Speaker 28>It is in our DNA.

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<v Speaker 32>They're lying on our name because they want money from

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<v Speaker 32>the same white corporations that are funding Cop City, Home Depot,

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<v Speaker 32>Chick fil A, Coca Cola, Norfolk, Southern.

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<v Speaker 28>At and t.

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<v Speaker 32>COT enterprises who own say ajac and this is a

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<v Speaker 32>fight that we will win, that we are committed to winning.

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<v Speaker 32>And so when we talk about winning, it's important to

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<v Speaker 32>say what do we mean when we say that we'll win.

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<v Speaker 36>We mean no Cop City anywhere.

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<v Speaker 32>Now in South Atlanta, not into cab not in North Atlanta, nowhere.

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<v Speaker 32>When we say that we will win, we are meaning

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<v Speaker 32>that this fight does not stop with Cop City. This

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<v Speaker 32>is a fight for the liberation of all oppressed people

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<v Speaker 32>here and abroad.

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<v Speaker 20>That's right.

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<v Speaker 32>And now, client's disgusting that the mayor and that these

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<v Speaker 32>corporations will talk about outside agitators. Okay, the reason that

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<v Speaker 32>there are people coming from all over the world to

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<v Speaker 32>support this fight is because this is a fight that affects.

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<v Speaker 12>All of us.

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<v Speaker 20>That's right.

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<v Speaker 32>The Atlanta Police Foundation admitted that percent of the cops

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<v Speaker 32>being trained at that facility will not be in Georgia.

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<v Speaker 22>So when people came from.

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<v Speaker 32>Tennessee, from New York, from California, it's because they know

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<v Speaker 32>that their local police might learn how to kill them better.

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<v Speaker 20>Here, that's right.

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<v Speaker 32>And when people come from abroad, they know that currently

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<v Speaker 32>the Atlanta Police Department trains with the Israeli police. So

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<v Speaker 32>the same techniques being used to brutalize black people are

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<v Speaker 32>being used to practice genocide on the Palestinian people. And

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<v Speaker 32>the same tactics being used to practice genofide on the

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<v Speaker 32>Palestinian people are being used to brutilize black people right here.

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<v Speaker 32>So when people came from all over the world to

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<v Speaker 32>say stop Coup City, they're not outside agitators. They're standing

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<v Speaker 32>in solidarity with us, because this is the fight.

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<v Speaker 1>All as the rain picked up, Tortihita's mother, Belquise Taran

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<v Speaker 1>spoke next on the.

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<v Speaker 45>Cards the friend that I called them, I called them

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<v Speaker 45>to come here to support us on the people from

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<v Speaker 45>different religions come here and help us.

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<v Speaker 20>This is a matter of the earth. You're talking a.

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<v Speaker 45>Mountain's saying, right need.

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<v Speaker 46>Our love, The earth needs our attention, and we are

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<v Speaker 46>we have conscience.

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<v Speaker 45>We know that this is not right. Don't go by

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<v Speaker 45>yourself when we go to activities, stay together, don't go

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<v Speaker 45>outside by yourself.

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<v Speaker 46>Don't We need to.

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<v Speaker 45>Make understand that this is the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 45>We we are the correct people. We are right because

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<v Speaker 45>we are driving by love, by carry and concern, and.

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<v Speaker 20>We love all of I love you and I know

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<v Speaker 20>that you love me.

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<v Speaker 1>A speaker from Black Votes Matter addressed to the crowd next,

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<v Speaker 1>starting off by talking about the importance of mass action.

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<v Speaker 22>I just want to explain something because sometimes people get confused,

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<v Speaker 22>they get it twisted.

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<v Speaker 7>They say, oh, y'all, look like vote.

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<v Speaker 29>It's better all y'all do is talk about voting.

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<v Speaker 22>Be clear, we understand that the way that we get

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<v Speaker 22>to liberation is not going to come.

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<v Speaker 7>Just through a vote.

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<v Speaker 22>That's never been how it's worked for our people in

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<v Speaker 22>this country. Sister Harry didn't get a chance to vote

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<v Speaker 22>for liberations. She didn't get a chance to vote to

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<v Speaker 22>take our people off the plantation right. So we are

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<v Speaker 22>very clear that what we have got to be. In fact,

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<v Speaker 22>we just celebrated, commemorated the anniversary of Selma and the

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<v Speaker 22>marks of Montgomery. But be clear, the people of Selma

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<v Speaker 22>didn't vote for a Voting Rights Act. They had to

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<v Speaker 22>fight for it, they had to march for it. In

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<v Speaker 22>some cases, they bled for it, they had to resist

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<v Speaker 22>for it, they had to take to the streets for it.

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<v Speaker 22>It's a that tradition that we are out here today.

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<v Speaker 18>So yes, hot it.

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<v Speaker 10>I believe.

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<v Speaker 22>I believe in the power of the vote, but I

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<v Speaker 22>also believe in the power of mass action.

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<v Speaker 1>He then talked about the intersection of Copcity and efforts

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<v Speaker 1>to further restrict the democratic process in Georgia.

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<v Speaker 22>The same corporations that are that are funding cop City

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<v Speaker 22>are the same ones that are funding the bonus questions,

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<v Speaker 22>the same ones we've did our whole campaign a couple

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<v Speaker 22>of years ago in Georgia, says that bonus prison bill.

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<v Speaker 22>And we called out Home Depot and Coca Cola and

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<v Speaker 22>tell them many of the other corporations that give money

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<v Speaker 22>to the people, that are that are taken away our.

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<v Speaker 46>Rights to vote.

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<v Speaker 22>And then if you don't have a government that reflects

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<v Speaker 22>the people, then what you need. You need a police

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<v Speaker 22>force to enforce the fact that you don't have a

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<v Speaker 22>government that reflects the people. And so our message from

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<v Speaker 22>Mary Dickets, our message for the City Council is that

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<v Speaker 22>If you don't respond to the people, you want to

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<v Speaker 22>lose those chile you want to lose your job.

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<v Speaker 46>Because we've got that power.

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<v Speaker 22>We've got the power to make that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Students from the Atlanta University Center consortium of four black

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<v Speaker 1>colleges in Atlanta, where some of the last people to

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<v Speaker 1>give speeches before the march.

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<v Speaker 47>We have attempted to reform our police force, add de

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<v Speaker 47>el escalation training, add civil rights history training, and give

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<v Speaker 47>more money to our police, but we continue to see

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<v Speaker 47>black bodies across social media platforms, television, and other media

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<v Speaker 47>platforms being displayed being murdered. The victims have received no justice.

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<v Speaker 47>And when we say no justice, what do we say?

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<v Speaker 11>No justice, no justice, no justice.

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<v Speaker 42>The building of the Atlanta Public Training Center is an

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<v Speaker 42>insult and an act of the utmost disrespect from our

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<v Speaker 42>city leaders.

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<v Speaker 46>We have a duty to fight for the change that

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<v Speaker 46>we seek.

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<v Speaker 32>As an active member of this community, I refuse to sit.

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<v Speaker 28>By and be idle and just let things happen.

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<v Speaker 48>This city has been my home ever since I was born.

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<v Speaker 4>I have been to.

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<v Speaker 46>Various events here.

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<v Speaker 48>I have seen the sights and have lived through some

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<v Speaker 48>of the most important events here in this City. This

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<v Speaker 48>is my home. This is your home, This is our home.

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<v Speaker 48>This is the home of Black excellence. This is the

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<v Speaker 48>home of doctor Martin Luther King Junior. This is the

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<v Speaker 48>home of John Lewis. This is the home of Joseph

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<v Speaker 48>Evelyn and Joseph E.

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<v Speaker 46>Lowy. This is the home of civil rights. This is

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<v Speaker 46>the home of CT.

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<v Speaker 5>Gibon.

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<v Speaker 13>This is the home of great blackness itself.

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<v Speaker 22>This is the home of every single black person here

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<v Speaker 22>in America. This city, this house, this place of Black

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<v Speaker 22>excellence says no to Cop City.

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<v Speaker 49>My Afro pessimist friends and revolutionaries both agree we are

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<v Speaker 49>at war. The police in the city have said as

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<v Speaker 49>much loudly with their words and their actions. It feels

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<v Speaker 49>obvious to me that we need warriors weapons, and I

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<v Speaker 49>know that fact may give some of us trepidation, but

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<v Speaker 49>I want to assure you that we need so much

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<v Speaker 49>more than soldiers to win this fight. Whatever it is

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<v Speaker 49>that you do, whatever skill you bring, I just ask

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<v Speaker 49>that you make it a weapon. If we are ever

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<v Speaker 49>going to experience democracy, we need your tools to be

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<v Speaker 49>repurposed in this fight against Cop City. If you're a

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<v Speaker 49>writer like me, child that Patty better look like a

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<v Speaker 49>threat to cop city. If you do mutual aid, caring

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<v Speaker 49>for community ain't gonna get any easier. Please show us

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<v Speaker 49>the way.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're an artist, where my artist at.

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<v Speaker 8>You got a lot of them out here.

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<v Speaker 49>Let every painting reveal the truth, including the joy and

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<v Speaker 49>freedom that abolition calls us to. Let us make songs

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<v Speaker 49>that inspire revolution. If you're a healer, get ready, we

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<v Speaker 49>need you.

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<v Speaker 5>Much will be lost in this struggle.

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<v Speaker 8>Let us not forget.

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<v Speaker 49>If you're a teacher, well, we got a lot to

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<v Speaker 49>learn about this war we're fighting and how police practice

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<v Speaker 49>urban warfare. If you're a lawyer, guide us when they

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<v Speaker 49>say that any fighter.

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<v Speaker 4>Is a criminal.

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<v Speaker 49>If you're a digital organizer, to keep your finger on

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<v Speaker 49>the pulse and tell our stories far and wide. And

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<v Speaker 49>if you're a community organizer, we need to tend to

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<v Speaker 49>our relationships, not just use them. We need real solidarity

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<v Speaker 49>which goes beyond unity. We need pluralism, making space for

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<v Speaker 49>many strategies to coexist, and ultimately we need to practice democracy.

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<v Speaker 49>If we plan to build one cop city, is the

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<v Speaker 49>police in the establishment preparing for domestic war right here

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<v Speaker 49>in the city of Atlanta. Any further training of the

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<v Speaker 49>police is training against our existence. That shit cannot be built.

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<v Speaker 29>It will.

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<v Speaker 49>We all must fight for the democracy we've never seen before.

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<v Speaker 4>What are you willing to do?

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<v Speaker 35>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>So, after about an hour of speeches, people are now

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<v Speaker 1>finally getting ready to move.

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<v Speaker 10>They announced on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Loudspeaker where we are going. We are marching to the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Police Foundation headquarters on Peachtree, the same location that

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<v Speaker 1>had the front windows broken on the protest following the

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<v Speaker 1>killing of Tortighita that Saturday. So people leave, they stick

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<v Speaker 1>onto the sidewalk because there's cops staring at them, and

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<v Speaker 1>cops that definitely had had had indicated that if if

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<v Speaker 1>people step on to the street, they would be arrested.

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<v Speaker 1>The length of the march is stretching for about two

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<v Speaker 1>or three city blocks, just because you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>cram three hundred people onto a sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 10>Makes sense stretch out really long.

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<v Speaker 1>But the cops have been pretty pretty adamant that if

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<v Speaker 1>anyone steps onto the street, they're going to get arrested.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a banner being carried across that says what

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<v Speaker 1>you water grows fund our future, Stop cop city, defend

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<v Speaker 1>the forest. People with the stop cop City signs in

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<v Speaker 1>the Coca Cola font signs that read Atlanta versus cop City,

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<v Speaker 1>no cop city on stolen Land. The Thursday march definitely

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<v Speaker 1>had the most amount of signs out of all of

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<v Speaker 1>the individual marches or actions that I went to, both

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<v Speaker 1>small handheld signs and also signs with really tall handles

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<v Speaker 1>to hold up above the crowd. All right, people are

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<v Speaker 1>being led into the street now after walking, after walking

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<v Speaker 1>on the hidewalk for a decent while, people have now

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<v Speaker 1>taken to the streets along the path of the march.

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<v Speaker 1>The projector was set up projecting like stop stop coop

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<v Speaker 1>city slogans onto the side of a building, almost like

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<v Speaker 1>really really good graphic design.

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<v Speaker 2>Visuals is definitely a strength of the movement.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this police riot helmet that has a tree growing

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<v Speaker 1>underneath it and breaking apart of the helmet. It says,

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<v Speaker 1>trees give life, police take it. We got a police

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<v Speaker 1>riot line set up a few blocks ahead of the

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<v Speaker 1>people marching on the street right next to the building

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<v Speaker 1>with these with the stop cop City stuff projected onto

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<v Speaker 1>the side. Rather than let the police do an escalatory

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<v Speaker 1>show of violence, people opted to move back onto the

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<v Speaker 1>sidewalk to continue the march uninhibited. People seem to be

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<v Speaker 1>moving closer back onto the sidewalk as they're staring down

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<v Speaker 1>this riot line, and police are now heading back inside.

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<v Speaker 1>They're white rent to bush little vans that they've been

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<v Speaker 1>staging their riot cops out of, and they're driving off.

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<v Speaker 1>People are now in downtown Atlanta outside of the Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific Center.

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<v Speaker 10>We have like twelve regular police.

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<v Speaker 1>Cars, the two white vans full of riot cops and

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<v Speaker 1>lots of them cops the stage in places I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>currently see. All right, We're marching north along Peachtree Street,

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<v Speaker 1>heading heading to the Atlantic Police Foundation got the two

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<v Speaker 1>the two bus Max rent of buses full of riot

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<v Speaker 1>cops right right beside the march. Cops really out of

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<v Speaker 1>it about not letting anybody march in the street. It's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because a few days ago they wouldn't let people

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<v Speaker 1>stand on the sidewalk either. Most of the cops that

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<v Speaker 1>are surrounding the march right now are still in their vehicles,

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<v Speaker 1>at least from this current vantage point. As opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>the non violent direct act of march, I was opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to the non violent direct action marches and actions that

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<v Speaker 1>have happened launching out of woodword Park the past week

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<v Speaker 1>in which the police just tailed and surrounded the march

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<v Speaker 1>on foot, I think this march is just slightly I

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<v Speaker 1>think this march is just slightly too big to use

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<v Speaker 1>that tactic, so they're surrounding them with vehicles instead. As

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<v Speaker 1>the march arrived at the Atlanta Police Foundation, the hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of protesters crammed onto the sidewalk were greeted by armed

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<v Speaker 1>APD officers. Riot police are standing in front of the

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<v Speaker 1>boarded up Atlanta Police Foundation headquarters at one nine to

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<v Speaker 1>one Peach Tree. There is a large, large crowd in

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<v Speaker 1>front of these relatively small amount of officers standing in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the board and up doors a few dozen cops,

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<v Speaker 1>some armed with AR fifteen's, A lot of cops stationed

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<v Speaker 1>outside the APF headquarters and even more stationed inside APF headquarters.

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<v Speaker 1>Police blocked off traffic in the on this section of

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<v Speaker 1>Peachtree Street, the sandwiching everybody in. They could have mass

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<v Speaker 1>arrested as I'm sure they wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the police were ready to mass rest the entire time.

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<v Speaker 10>This is this is kind of a wild sighte.

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<v Speaker 1>We have hundreds of people staring down about three dozen

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<v Speaker 1>officers from the Atlanta Police Department on their fifteen's, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>all of their handguns from hundreds of hundred, hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>people holding signs staring down the police. You can you

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<v Speaker 1>can feel the kind of you can feel the temperature.

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<v Speaker 10>Rising a little bit here. The cops look very nervous

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<v Speaker 10>as one.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundreds of people who are chanting at them, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not very happy are facing them down. They're so they're

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<v Speaker 1>so close together, we're they're just sandwiched in. This is

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<v Speaker 1>such a tense situation right now. No one in the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd has any visible weapons of any kind. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>they're holding big signs. Cops have some zipcuffs ready, cops

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<v Speaker 1>have all of their all their guns ready. I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to see inside the building via a small slit

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<v Speaker 1>in the plywood. There were tons of riot cops inside

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<v Speaker 1>with shields, and all the cops on the inside of

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<v Speaker 1>the building had gas masks strapped to their leg. At

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<v Speaker 1>least one riot cop on the other side of the

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<v Speaker 1>door was wearing a unique armored suit, not like the

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<v Speaker 1>regular police suits with riot armor like on the outside,

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<v Speaker 1>this armored padding was built into the clothing. He had

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<v Speaker 1>these massive bulky leg pants with armor on the insides

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<v Speaker 1>of them and like a massive riot helmet. He was

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<v Speaker 1>one of those cops who doesn't need a riot shield

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<v Speaker 1>because his body is the riot shield. It was very weird,

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<v Speaker 1>But for those first few minutes, it was a very

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<v Speaker 1>high stress situation in front of the APF building. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt like neither the crowd nor the police knew exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what was about to go down as a few hundred

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<v Speaker 1>angry protesters were pushed up against a line of armed police.

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<v Speaker 1>But as time went on, you got the impression that

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<v Speaker 1>this crowd was probably not going to initiate conflict with

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<v Speaker 1>the police, and I feel like some of the moods

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<v Speaker 1>maybe kind of died down. Cops are trying to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of move around the crowd a bit. There's there's cops

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<v Speaker 1>being stationed to the north, to the south, to behind

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd on the other side of the street. We

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<v Speaker 1>this could go so many ways right now, This could

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<v Speaker 1>end in so many different scenarios. But people have not

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<v Speaker 1>initiating anything other than standing on the sidewalk and.

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<v Speaker 10>Chanting and given speeches.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look, there's a small section of the FF

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<v Speaker 1>building where there's still a tiny, tiny, tiny sliver of

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<v Speaker 1>glass by one of the doors, and you can see

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<v Speaker 1>lots of lots of cops stationed inside with riot shields.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do not believe this crowd is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>busting down any doors. Camu Franklin, the founder of Community

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<v Speaker 1>Movement Builders, was the last person to speak in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the Atlanta Police Foundation.

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<v Speaker 35>No cops, it's nothing but a chry go over. Please

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<v Speaker 35>think our communities. We know a cop city. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 35>but a strategy to stop our movements.

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<v Speaker 3>And what movements are those?

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<v Speaker 35>The moments against police follans and terrorism in our community.

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<v Speaker 35>It is in twenty twenty one that they introduced this

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<v Speaker 35>idea to stop, to put cop city out here to

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<v Speaker 35>stop our movements. When people were talking about the fund

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<v Speaker 35>the police, abolish the police, find our turn it is

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<v Speaker 35>the public safety, they.

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<v Speaker 7>Said, hell no, we.

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<v Speaker 10>Want more police.

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<v Speaker 35>And I put that idea out there, and the movement

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<v Speaker 35>was born to stop cop city. This movement is two

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<v Speaker 35>years old and it doesn't look like.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to stop.

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<v Speaker 49>To me.

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<v Speaker 1>By the end, you got this sense that this march

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<v Speaker 1>did exactly what it wanted to. There were three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>people standing like a foot away from two dozen cops,

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<v Speaker 1>starring them down, giving speeches chanting. If people wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>other things could have happened. This rally could have resulted

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<v Speaker 1>in many ways, many of them probably very ugly and

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<v Speaker 1>carrying a very high cost.

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<v Speaker 35>The reason we did in march like this today was

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<v Speaker 35>to say to all the na saves. Black folks don't

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<v Speaker 35>want cop City. In people don't want cop City. White

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<v Speaker 35>folks don't want cop City. At Lantis don't want cop City.

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<v Speaker 35>Folks from outside Atlanta don't want cop City. Don't body

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<v Speaker 35>in the United States wants cop City because Ronestitians.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't work Cops City.

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<v Speaker 3>So people in Latin America.

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<v Speaker 46>Don't want cop City.

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<v Speaker 16>Don't were in.

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<v Speaker 21>This world don't we.

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<v Speaker 46>Work cop City.

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<v Speaker 35>We wanted to make sure that we came in safety

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<v Speaker 35>and we leave in safety. We wanted to make sure

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<v Speaker 35>that we don't have any more political prisoners today. That

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<v Speaker 35>we wanted this to be a march about our unity

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<v Speaker 35>and our safety in numbers, and as we wrap up today,

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<v Speaker 35>that's what we want. It's not like we gotta give

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<v Speaker 35>them an excuse. When you are around the cop the

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<v Speaker 35>same way when you're around the wild animal.

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<v Speaker 7>What do you gotta do.

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<v Speaker 35>You gotta be cautious, you gotta be careful. You gotta

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<v Speaker 35>move a certain way, you gotta know which way to

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<v Speaker 35>go because you're looking to protect your safety. And right

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<v Speaker 35>now I'm looking to protect our safety. So as we

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<v Speaker 35>depart here today, we are departing in unit, We are

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<v Speaker 35>departing together. We are gonna walk back in close quarters

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<v Speaker 35>together where our cars work. If you're going to Martyr,

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<v Speaker 35>you're gonna walk close together with other people as you

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<v Speaker 35>go to Marta if you need a van to pick

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<v Speaker 35>you up, if you can't take Marta two blocks this

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<v Speaker 35>way by deposit. So we want you to be safe, secure,

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<v Speaker 35>because you want to be.

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<v Speaker 46>Here gig the fight.

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<v Speaker 1>There was this sense that the people there wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>show that if they wanted to do things, they could have,

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<v Speaker 1>but they knew that this was not This was not

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<v Speaker 1>the right time nor the right place.

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<v Speaker 2>Restraint and and understanding of what like practice I would

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<v Speaker 2>say in that situation is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean in the speeches that happened beforehand, there

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<v Speaker 1>was people from community movement builders, from Black Votes Matter,

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of other black led groups in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>And similarly, like like like what happened at the Clergy event,

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<v Speaker 1>there was not a single whiff of condemnation of militant tactics,

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<v Speaker 1>of of of property, destruction of actions that people take this.

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<v Speaker 1>They people there who gave speeches recognized that such tactics

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<v Speaker 1>were a staple of the civil rights movement. Early Saturday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up to news that police had begun another raid.

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<v Speaker 1>But instead of writing the Mulani Forest the the police

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<v Speaker 1>were searching the ten acre property of the Lakewood Environmental

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<v Speaker 1>Arts Foundation or LEAF, a local nonprofit that was offering

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<v Speaker 1>safe haven for people during the week of Action. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>so the Lant police have executed a warrant on the

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<v Speaker 1>LEAF meet up spot in southeast Atlanta that people have

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<v Speaker 1>been using as a welcome center, as like a medic

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<v Speaker 1>station and just another spot to hang out. It was

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<v Speaker 1>set up after the raid Sunday night and it is

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<v Speaker 1>now Saturday morning. The police have executed this warrant to

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<v Speaker 1>search Parmasis ID everyone who's there.

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<v Speaker 10>We got a group of people. It's being able to

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<v Speaker 10>leave right now.

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<v Speaker 1>There has been a prison transport vehicle called in and

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<v Speaker 1>cops have like blocked off intersections around the area. No

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<v Speaker 1>one's allowed to get close. People are not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>return to their cars. People are not allowed to return

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<v Speaker 1>to their private property. Since Sunday night, the land was

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<v Speaker 1>being used as a medic hub and provided a secondary

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<v Speaker 1>place to camp for those who didn't feel safe staying

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<v Speaker 1>in the forest. During their raid Saturday morning, police detained

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<v Speaker 1>at least twenty two people and refused to show anyone

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<v Speaker 1>the search warrant. And yeah, the group that got released

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<v Speaker 1>is just walking up now. Maybe like two dozen people

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<v Speaker 1>have been able to walk up.

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<v Speaker 26>We just goat through their police lines and we're gonna, yeah,

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<v Speaker 26>huddle up and get to a safe place. We were

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<v Speaker 26>woken up by helicopters. There had been helicopters doing rounds

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<v Speaker 26>all evening and I don't even know what time. Seven something,

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<v Speaker 26>we heard loud speakers saying that they had a warrant

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<v Speaker 26>to search the property private property, and that was very disorienting.

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<v Speaker 26>Obviously I was in the middle of sleeping. We came

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<v Speaker 26>out with our hands open, our hands up. We had

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<v Speaker 26>more than twenty guns pointed at us. Some people have

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<v Speaker 26>their fingers on triggers. Certainly they were screaming at me.

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<v Speaker 26>And as I was waking up, we came through the line.

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<v Speaker 26>They said that they had a warrant to search the property.

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<v Speaker 26>We know that Homeland Security was one of the departments

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<v Speaker 26>that was arrested that was part of the arrest crew

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<v Speaker 26>or extraction crew or whatever. It's very traumatic. Obviously, it's freezing.

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<v Speaker 26>This is the coldest day this week, and so we are,

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<v Speaker 26>you know, worried about people's health because people are cold.

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<v Speaker 26>They detained us, they took identification. It was extremely violent situation,

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<v Speaker 26>but everyone here was really taking care of each other

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<v Speaker 26>and remaining calm.

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<v Speaker 1>To address the raid, activists scheduled a press conference for

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<v Speaker 1>later that day after a youth rally to defend the

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<v Speaker 1>forest was to take place in East Village. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you can hear said youths in the background, so

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<v Speaker 1>excuse their joyous young screams.

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<v Speaker 36>We thought that it was important for us to not

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<v Speaker 36>only amplify the wonderful children's march that happened here today,

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<v Speaker 36>the community in East Atlanta, this community where they are

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<v Speaker 36>proposing to build cop City, came out this morning overwhelmingly

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<v Speaker 36>to say that they don't want cop City.

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<v Speaker 13>So we had parents, we.

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<v Speaker 36>Had children, we had other neighbors and community stakeholders who

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<v Speaker 36>gathered right here in Brownwood Park today in East Atlanta

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<v Speaker 36>to say that we are East Atlanta and cop City

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<v Speaker 36>is not a part of what we imagine an envision

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<v Speaker 36>for this community. Also this morning, unfortunately, there is a

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<v Speaker 36>place that was held as a commune for campers who

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<v Speaker 36>wanted to stand in solidarity during this week of action.

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<v Speaker 36>The place is called Leith l EAF. That is, the

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<v Speaker 36>Lakewood Environmental Arts Foundation, a nonprofit or organization that's dedicated

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<v Speaker 36>to combating food insecurity here within the city of Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 36>offered up their space to be used for people who

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<v Speaker 36>did not feel safe camping in the forest because of

2:43:12.560 --> 2:43:16.800
<v Speaker 36>the over aggression of police there and they wanted to

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<v Speaker 36>stand in solidarity with this week of action, so LEIF

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<v Speaker 36>offered up their space for those people to camp safely. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 36>this morning, a gang of police officers descended upon that

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<v Speaker 36>sacred space.

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<v Speaker 1>During the raid, up to forty officers swarmed the property,

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<v Speaker 1>ransacking the infrastructure set up at the Leaf Encampment site.

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<v Speaker 1>Cops slashed aparts two medical supply tents, disrupting metical operations,

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<v Speaker 1>broke windows of a camper van parked on the site,

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<v Speaker 1>and ripped apart a greenhouse. Police took pictures of the

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<v Speaker 1>people detained at Leaf and collected their ideas, but after

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<v Speaker 1>being held for several hours, the police let all but

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<v Speaker 1>one person go free. To quote an article by Candice

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<v Speaker 1>Burned in Truth Out Quote, one person was arrested for

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<v Speaker 1>an outstanding parking ticket, demonstrating the state's desperation to snatch

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<v Speaker 1>up anyone associated with the Stop Copcity movement.

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<v Speaker 50>Good afternoon, everybody. My name is Marlon Kautz.

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<v Speaker 51>I'm an organizer with the Atlanta Solidarity Fund, where civil

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<v Speaker 51>liberties and anti repression organization that exists to make sure

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<v Speaker 51>that people who participate in social movements have the right

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<v Speaker 51>to protest and don't suffer from repression. So the reason

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<v Speaker 51>I'm here is because, as we've all heard previously, there

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<v Speaker 51>was an incident of political repression. Early this morning, police

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<v Speaker 51>executed a search warrant and performed a raid against the

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<v Speaker 51>Lakewood Environmental Arts Foundation, which is a community space in Lakewood,

2:44:52.400 --> 2:44:56.840
<v Speaker 51>Atlanta that exists primarily to serve artists and musicians. It's

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<v Speaker 51>clear that it was part of a political strategy to

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<v Speaker 51>repress and intimidate protesters who are associated with the Stop Pop.

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<v Speaker 50>City movement, a movement to defend the forest.

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<v Speaker 51>This is very concerning, especially when taken in context. Of course,

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<v Speaker 51>it's very likely that police are going to report that

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<v Speaker 51>this was part of a routine investigation, a law enforcement

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<v Speaker 51>matter that they had every right to conduct. The other

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<v Speaker 51>thing that police are likely to claim is that they

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<v Speaker 51>made an arrest on scene, and our understanding is that

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<v Speaker 51>they did make an arrest due to somebody who was

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<v Speaker 51>there having an old traffic ticket from a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 51>So it's important to clarify that the arrest was because

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<v Speaker 51>of a traffic ticket, not because of any alleged crimes

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<v Speaker 51>related to the movement or any other serious criminal activity.

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<v Speaker 51>So it's important that we understand this raid as part

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<v Speaker 51>of a series of ongoing abuses of the legal process

2:45:58.640 --> 2:46:02.320
<v Speaker 51>to harass and intimidate political throw testers. They were unable

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<v Speaker 51>to demonstrate any criminal activity during their raid on the

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<v Speaker 51>Lakewood Environmental Arts Foundation, but they're continuing.

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<v Speaker 3>To abuse.

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<v Speaker 50>Every justification that they can.

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<v Speaker 51>To raid spaces, to make arrests, and to hold people

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<v Speaker 51>in jail.

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<v Speaker 36>So before the police come out and say we raided

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<v Speaker 36>this place where all of these outside aggressors were and

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<v Speaker 36>we picked up some violent offenders, we want you to

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<v Speaker 36>know that our brothers and sisters who were standing with

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<v Speaker 36>us in solidarity just saying hey, we want to camp here,

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<v Speaker 36>since we don't feel safe camping in the people's park

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<v Speaker 36>that's been overrun with police repression and aggression.

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<v Speaker 13>They raided that place.

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<v Speaker 36>They snatched people up, some people were sleeping, They took

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<v Speaker 36>pictures of people, They took their IDs, and they searched

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<v Speaker 36>and searched, found nothing else, never to warrant, and only

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<v Speaker 36>one person was arrested because of an outstanding parking ticking.

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<v Speaker 1>About a week after the raid, the Guardian obtained evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of the search warrant. The warrant stated that there was

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<v Speaker 1>probable cause for believing that evidence of quote conspiracy to

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<v Speaker 1>commit domestic terrorism unquote could be found at the Lakewood location.

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<v Speaker 1>Listed in the warrant were objects officers sought, which included quote, cameras, radios,

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<v Speaker 1>boxes of nails, lighters, tents, camping equipment, spray paint, black clothing,

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<v Speaker 1>and literature related to defend the forest. These were the

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<v Speaker 1>materials tied to domestic terrorism. As the week progressed, there

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<v Speaker 1>were an increasing number of reports of police tailing people

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<v Speaker 1>coming and going from a march's and especially the actions downtown. Basically,

2:47:57.160 --> 2:48:00.359
<v Speaker 1>officers would follow people suspected of participating in the movement,

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<v Speaker 1>pull them over try to id anyone within the vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>and then issue some nonsense traffic citation. This continued on

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday after the Community Movement Builders march, as people were

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<v Speaker 1>heading home from the public Park, police stalked a few

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<v Speaker 1>individuals and pulled over multiple vehicles. A van carrying one

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<v Speaker 1>of the speakers was targeted, as well as two other

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<v Speaker 1>cars that were pulled over as they were leaving the protest.

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<v Speaker 1>Marlin from the Atlanta Solidarity Fund talked about the various

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<v Speaker 1>ways police had been using their power to intimidate activists

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<v Speaker 1>and suppress protest.

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<v Speaker 51>Our organization has gotten many reports of pretext stops of

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<v Speaker 51>political protesters or people who are suspected of being political

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<v Speaker 51>protesters because of bumper stickers on their car or the

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<v Speaker 51>state that their license plate is ProMED. We've gotten report

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<v Speaker 51>people being stop and frisked simply because they're profiled as

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<v Speaker 51>looking like political acts the lists, and of course we've

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<v Speaker 51>seen dozens of protesters or suspected protesters arrested and charged

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<v Speaker 51>with domestic terrorism simply because they were found at a

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<v Speaker 51>music festival that's associated with the stock Coop City movement.

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<v Speaker 51>And so we can see that every step of the

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<v Speaker 51>way police and prosecutors are abusing the legal process to

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<v Speaker 51>intimidate and discourage this movement.

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<v Speaker 2>Throughout this time, police have been watching or monitoring one

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<v Speaker 2>of the off site locations in the forest. They've parked

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<v Speaker 2>in front of this site and kept up surveillance on it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then leading all the way up into Friday, there

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<v Speaker 2>was a journalist pulled over leaving the final non violent

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<v Speaker 2>direct action from Woodruff Park. They were pulled over with

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<v Speaker 2>two other people in the car and like detained briefly,

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<v Speaker 2>ostensibly to you know, continue to identify and connect people.

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<v Speaker 1>A big part of the story for this week of

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<v Speaker 1>Act is the excess of the police response to quite

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<v Speaker 1>typical acts of quote unquote nonviolent protest, the sort that

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<v Speaker 1>the government and even the police loved to claim that

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<v Speaker 1>they actually protect. With every single action downtown this week,

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<v Speaker 1>virtually no laws were being broken, not even any civil disobedience.

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<v Speaker 1>People were handing out flyers, marching on sidewalks, giving out letters,

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<v Speaker 1>and the police's response was to deploy SWAT, to mobilize

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of officers, to shut down multiple city blocks, to

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<v Speaker 1>carry ar fifteens as they tail crowds of a few

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<v Speaker 1>dozen people just walking on the sidewalk and yelling at

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<v Speaker 1>people if they accidentally miss step off the curb and

2:50:40.000 --> 2:50:45.199
<v Speaker 1>threaten violent arrest. This was the sort of extremely aggressive

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<v Speaker 1>response to people doing protest quote unquote the right way.

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<v Speaker 2>We should highlight that. That is the apparent goal of

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<v Speaker 2>these protests was to show that even when they are

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<v Speaker 2>doing things the right way, this is how the state

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<v Speaker 2>reacts to dissent.

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<v Speaker 1>It reacts in this militarized fashion where you like it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's I think a big part of what's happened in

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<v Speaker 1>these types of protests that have happened the past week

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<v Speaker 1>is demonstrating why people are campaigning to stop cop City

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<v Speaker 1>because the sheer amount of resources that the police already

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<v Speaker 1>have in the city. To to be deploying hundreds and

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of officers every single day to respond to people

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<v Speaker 1>handing out flyers, it's like to respond to people who

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<v Speaker 1>are walking on the sidewalks. They have this massive amount

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<v Speaker 1>of resources. They're using tear gas in the woods, they're

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<v Speaker 1>using paper balls, they're using flash bangs, they're they're having

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<v Speaker 1>multiple different swat teams follow around people handing out pamphlets.

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<v Speaker 1>The level of police militarization in Atlanta is already at

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<v Speaker 1>this extremely high point, and COP City is only going

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<v Speaker 1>to intensify that. And that is the reason they want

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<v Speaker 1>to build cop City. It's for this type of urban

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<v Speaker 1>counterinsurgency training to quell civil unrest and to quell protests.

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<v Speaker 36>On Thursday night, we held a very peaceful and successful

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<v Speaker 36>march in downtown Atlanta, starting at the King Center.

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<v Speaker 28>We had someone who.

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<v Speaker 36>Was stopped by the police and asked if he was

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<v Speaker 36>picking up protesters taking out of the vehicle, handcuffed for

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<v Speaker 36>no reason. They couldn't find a reason to detain him

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<v Speaker 36>any longer, so they had to let him go. But Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 36>this is why we're standing against cop City, because if

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<v Speaker 36>cop City is built, you can guarantee that you won't

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<v Speaker 36>even be able to go to the grocery store without

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<v Speaker 36>being harassed by the police for no reason at all.

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<v Speaker 1>When I spoke with Matthew Johnson, he brought up a

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<v Speaker 1>similar point.

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<v Speaker 18>With the resources that the police had to respond in

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<v Speaker 18>the way that they did.

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<v Speaker 8>The assertion that.

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<v Speaker 18>They need more training in a militarized facility or they

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<v Speaker 18>need more resources is crazy because you had them literally

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<v Speaker 18>out numbering protesters kettling them, and we have credible sources

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<v Speaker 18>that say that there were swat forces who had instructed

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<v Speaker 18>the officers to arrest nonviolent protesters, and there were actually

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<v Speaker 18>police officers that refused to take that order, which I

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<v Speaker 18>think is another fascinating dynamic that is worth exploring and

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<v Speaker 18>understanding more. But just with the resources that they had

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<v Speaker 18>to try to shut down protesters, harass folks, constantly, ticket

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<v Speaker 18>and pull over people that they saw, you know, creating

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<v Speaker 18>like a logistical framework for the week of action is nuts,

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<v Speaker 18>and they're making our point for us. On Friday, the

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<v Speaker 18>word came out that Tortugita had bullet holes through both

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<v Speaker 18>of their palms and that they were more than likely

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<v Speaker 18>sitting cross leg with their hands up when they were

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<v Speaker 18>shot by police. And now we are supposed to be

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<v Speaker 18>convinced that these people that lied about this killed somebody

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<v Speaker 18>that was absolutely no threat to them. On the same

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<v Speaker 18>grounds that they're trying to build this police training facility,

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<v Speaker 18>we're supposed to believe that this is going to make

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<v Speaker 18>them less violent towards people like as you're building a

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<v Speaker 18>militarized police training facility, and like people that try to

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<v Speaker 18>convince themselves that these is going to be a place

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<v Speaker 18>where people are also being taught de escalation tactics, while

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<v Speaker 18>like everything around that is militarized. It's like if you

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<v Speaker 18>had somebody build a water park and you're like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 18>I'm just trying to stay dry. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 18>get splashed or anything like that, and it's like, oh no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 18>don't worries. We have a food court right in the

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<v Speaker 18>middle of it, and it's great, you're really just coming

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<v Speaker 18>there for the food court, so don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 18>And then like you go there and then you get splashed.

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<v Speaker 18>What were you expecting? Like, that's obviously not what that

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<v Speaker 18>facility is for, because all the infrastructure around it is

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<v Speaker 18>made to be a water park or a militarized police

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<v Speaker 18>training facility. So don't be surprised when maybe they might

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<v Speaker 18>have one de escalation program and like you know where

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<v Speaker 18>the food court would be, and then somebody gets killed, right,

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<v Speaker 18>because they're actually building the infrastructure for killing.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's where we're at.

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<v Speaker 1>This week of action has shown a lot about how

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<v Speaker 1>the police are operating post the twenty twenty Uprising, how

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<v Speaker 1>they will respond to people exercising their First Amendment right,

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<v Speaker 1>and the indiscriminate way that police will respond to any

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<v Speaker 1>active protest. One of the main takeaways from this week

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<v Speaker 1>is that their response to protest is deployed against people

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<v Speaker 1>without target or focus. They care very little if you

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<v Speaker 1>are breaking a window or if you're marching on the sidewalk,

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<v Speaker 1>They're still gonna send the SWAT team. Police are acting

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<v Speaker 1>as if they are entirely in case of differentiating between

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<v Speaker 1>acts of descent. Toward the end of the week, I

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<v Speaker 1>sat down and talked with an unnamed forest defender to

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<v Speaker 1>get their thoughts on the week of action. For security reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>we did a vocal replacement.

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<v Speaker 52>The police presence has been pretty unprecedented. I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 52>shit like that here since twenty twenty, not downtown at least.

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<v Speaker 52>I mean shit, I don't think we had seen gas

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<v Speaker 52>in Atlanta in a minute, and then they gassed the forest.

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<v Speaker 52>It'd been a while, but yeah, I mean they're punching out,

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<v Speaker 52>especially like Tuesday, they were putting out one hundred and

2:56:30.440 --> 2:56:33.240
<v Speaker 52>fifty two hundred cops the entirety of downtown. I mean

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<v Speaker 52>multi jurisdictional task forces deployed multiple different Atlanta APD SWAT

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<v Speaker 52>teams between like regular APD SWAT and APEX, which is

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<v Speaker 52>like the Drug and Gang Interdiction unit. I mean a

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<v Speaker 52>fucking whole drone unit, GSP, some weird unmarked cars that

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<v Speaker 52>I won't speculate on, helicopters, all that shit. You know,

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<v Speaker 52>the type of police response you would expect to see

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<v Speaker 52>in like a dystopian fucking police state. For some people

2:56:55.640 --> 2:56:58.280
<v Speaker 52>handing out flyers that just say this is bad for

2:56:58.320 --> 2:57:00.680
<v Speaker 52>the environment, doesn't matter how much milk toast or not,

2:57:00.720 --> 2:57:02.400
<v Speaker 52>and like I shouldn't say milk toasts like that's not

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<v Speaker 52>a bad thing. We need people to go hand out flyers.

2:57:04.920 --> 2:57:07.320
<v Speaker 52>We need to inform people as far as what this

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<v Speaker 52>is to get people involved, but like as non violent

2:57:10.120 --> 2:57:11.720
<v Speaker 52>as you can get, and still they're going to treat

2:57:11.760 --> 2:57:13.800
<v Speaker 52>you like your fucking al Qaeda, you know, and it

2:57:13.800 --> 2:57:17.600
<v Speaker 52>puts you in a weird position because then it's like, okay, cool,

2:57:17.640 --> 2:57:19.560
<v Speaker 52>if you're going to treat us the exact same for

2:57:19.680 --> 2:57:23.280
<v Speaker 52>being nonviolent, why not do crime. If the police response

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<v Speaker 52>to an assault on an outpost that drove the police

2:57:25.280 --> 2:57:27.520
<v Speaker 52>out and burned five things down, the police response to

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<v Speaker 52>fifteen people handing out flyers downtown are going to be

2:57:29.959 --> 2:57:33.039
<v Speaker 52>about the same, then why not take more militant radical action?

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<v Speaker 1>The twenty three people arrested on Sunday, March fifth were

2:57:37.400 --> 2:57:40.760
<v Speaker 1>not arrested as anyone was torching equipment. They were not

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<v Speaker 1>arrested at the power line cut. It was people who

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<v Speaker 1>were attending a music festival. Arrests were not widely targeted

2:57:48.080 --> 2:57:51.600
<v Speaker 1>against people who police knew were engaged in property destruction.

2:57:52.040 --> 2:57:55.600
<v Speaker 1>They were targeted against anyone the cops could grab. Same

2:57:55.720 --> 2:57:58.440
<v Speaker 1>was the case at the January twenty first action, where

2:57:58.440 --> 2:58:02.800
<v Speaker 1>people were marching downtown Saturday after Tortugita was killed. The

2:58:02.800 --> 2:58:07.480
<v Speaker 1>only people arrested and subsequently charged with domestic terrorism was

2:58:07.760 --> 2:58:10.959
<v Speaker 1>anyone the police could get their hands on. Officers went

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<v Speaker 1>after people who were carrying banners the entire duration of

2:58:14.400 --> 2:58:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the march. It was not targeted against people who were

2:58:17.560 --> 2:58:25.320
<v Speaker 1>engaged in militant action. Among all this talk of police

2:58:25.360 --> 2:58:30.000
<v Speaker 1>repression and multiple raids, it's easy to overlook that throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the week people still sought opportunities for finding joy and resistance,

2:58:35.120 --> 2:58:38.920
<v Speaker 1>because most people wouldn't dedicate years of their life to

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<v Speaker 1>this if it was just miserable battles with police the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one thing that's been lost in all of this, too,

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<v Speaker 2>is all of the lighthearted events that have continued to

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<v Speaker 2>go on through the week, and like the joy of

2:58:52.080 --> 2:58:55.879
<v Speaker 2>the movement that was represented in the Bouncy Castle rip.

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<v Speaker 1>But that joy is continuing in the woods, like people

2:58:58.560 --> 2:59:00.360
<v Speaker 1>have still continued to camp in the woods. People still

2:59:00.400 --> 2:59:03.360
<v Speaker 1>having dinner in the woods, people are still having camp fires,

2:59:03.360 --> 2:59:05.080
<v Speaker 1>people are still talking the woods. It is still a

2:59:05.120 --> 2:59:08.680
<v Speaker 1>place that people are gathering at and are enjoying each other.

2:59:09.160 --> 2:59:11.760
<v Speaker 1>This company in now are enjoying the woods, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is a place that the morale has never been fully crushed.

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<v Speaker 3>The moral has never been fully crushed.

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<v Speaker 2>And like the participatory acts of the Week of Action

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<v Speaker 2>are continuing like none of that has been quashed.

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<v Speaker 1>An example of the joyful, continuous resistance during the Week

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<v Speaker 1>of Action can be found at the youth rally that

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<v Speaker 1>happened on Saturday the eleventh.

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<v Speaker 10>All right, So I'm at the youth rally Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>After the warrant was served on the meetup spot in

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<v Speaker 1>Southeast Atlanta. There's around two hundred people marching through East

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<v Speaker 1>Village in Atlanta. Pretty pretty joyous group here actually, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're actually like on the streets.

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<v Speaker 10>This is the first time we've had a large march

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<v Speaker 10>like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Take to the streets because every action that was in

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<v Speaker 1>downtown or midtown Atlanta was just so heavily surveilled by

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<v Speaker 1>police who were not letting anyone get near the street

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<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 10>But there's no police here.

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<v Speaker 1>They were busy doing the search war and so this

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<v Speaker 1>group is actually is actually able to take to the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like everyone everyone kind of in this area of

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta is pretty pretty pro pro this little protest here.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like workers from the little shops and stores nodding

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<v Speaker 1>along Bullden County.

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<v Speaker 2>Shares just walked by the march like on there, just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, off shift workout routine, wearing Fulden County gear.

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<v Speaker 10>That's pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 1>People dancing in the streets, Families walking with their kids

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<v Speaker 1>through the streets all right, walking around the park that

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<v Speaker 1>the youth rally started at, and the press conference about

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<v Speaker 1>the raid this morning just ended at there's as you

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<v Speaker 1>can probably hear kids playing in the park.

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<v Speaker 10>People are handing out food.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a massive, massive amount of food just in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the park with all these tables set up. Overall,

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of one of the more joyous events

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<v Speaker 1>that we've had since the initial Saturday rally at Gresham Park,

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<v Speaker 1>just with the amount of food, the amount of kids

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<v Speaker 1>just running around and playing, all the information tables that

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<v Speaker 1>are handing out literature and giving you know, making connections

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<v Speaker 1>with people. Yeah, when I was down here in January,

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<v Speaker 1>the mood was very somber. The mood was very grim

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<v Speaker 1>like coming to the vigil when there was the destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>remains of the gazebo, the torn up parking lot, all

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<v Speaker 1>of the trees in there still within their like winter

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<v Speaker 1>state with all of the leaves gone. Everything was very

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<v Speaker 1>kind of barren. And the first thing I noticed on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday as we were marching is like there's new life

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<v Speaker 1>springing in the woods. There's this invigorated sense of the

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<v Speaker 1>almost assurance of victory that people are carrying with them

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<v Speaker 1>as they take action. And I think that really does

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<v Speaker 1>change what the action you take is, and that does

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<v Speaker 1>change the types of results that people will see. Is

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<v Speaker 1>if they go at this with the idea that we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to win this.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that that is kind of why the

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<v Speaker 2>non violent direct actions have become like that have moved

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<v Speaker 2>to the floor. Right when you think that you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to lose and you have nothing to lose, you engage

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<v Speaker 2>in these incredibly radical actions because what else are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to do. And then when you have this belief

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<v Speaker 2>that no, we can win, we just have to find

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<v Speaker 2>that pathway.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is a part of the diversity of tactics

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<v Speaker 1>is using both of those and almost every ecological movement

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<v Speaker 1>that's been successful has demonstrated that the pathway to success

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<v Speaker 1>is often paved with a diversity of tactics, with people

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<v Speaker 1>doing non violent action at noon, which will pull a

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<v Speaker 1>massive militarized police response as people are doing regular ass shit.

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<v Speaker 1>And then a part of diversity of tactics is also

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<v Speaker 1>people leaving a music festival to go towards a bulldozer,

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<v Speaker 1>and both both of those things are a diversity of tactics.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I stand by most of that statement. However, where

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<v Speaker 1>issues can arise when there is a ticking clock and

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<v Speaker 1>during the time spent looking for this pathway, the enemy

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<v Speaker 1>meanwhile is making steady progress. Issues may also arise when

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<v Speaker 1>a large diversity of tactics is shoved under just one roof.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of conversations with movement participants regarding

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<v Speaker 1>the direct action that happened on Sunday night and how

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<v Speaker 1>it cast a shadow of repression over the whole week

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<v Speaker 1>of action to synthesize the many conversations. In general, most

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<v Speaker 1>people thought that what physically happened was good. The actual

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<v Speaker 1>actions at the North Gate were successful and justified. But

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<v Speaker 1>there are other things on the periphery of that action

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<v Speaker 1>that make it slightly more complicated.

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<v Speaker 18>And now we can have lots of questions about tactics

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<v Speaker 18>and cost benefit analysis about that action, which I did

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<v Speaker 18>not think it would be wise, especially being so visible

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<v Speaker 18>for me to have to be anywhere near on that day.

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<v Speaker 18>We can have questions about that. But what was for

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<v Speaker 18>certain was that the way in which the police responded

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<v Speaker 18>was absurd and predictably so.

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<v Speaker 8>Now with the destruction that I saw, etc.

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<v Speaker 18>It cost them less than a million dollars and maybe

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<v Speaker 18>like two weeks actually of construction that they were.

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<v Speaker 8>Pushed back max. These are like max numbers.

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<v Speaker 18>Was that worth twenty three people being arrested and quaching

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<v Speaker 18>what could have been a larger occupation and wider participation

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<v Speaker 18>and wider buying in the movement. Instead, by the time

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<v Speaker 18>we got to Monday, the clergy was having to do

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<v Speaker 18>clean up rather than like cast division of what the

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<v Speaker 18>world could be, And so these are trade offs right

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<v Speaker 18>where even though we have to be very clear about

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<v Speaker 18>what a diversity of tactics means and also a separation

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<v Speaker 18>of time and space. So I mean, we can't just

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<v Speaker 18>look at a diversity of tactics and everybody does what

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<v Speaker 18>they want as if they're operating in asylo, but rather

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<v Speaker 18>we give space for one another to do different things

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<v Speaker 18>that may work, respectful of the fact that some of

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<v Speaker 18>our actions may affect one another.

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<v Speaker 1>In the lead up to the Week of Action, nighttime

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<v Speaker 1>sabotage actions decreased around Atlanta in favor of these big

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<v Speaker 1>public demos during daylight. That seems to result in more

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<v Speaker 1>people getting arrested. And one of the results of Sunday's

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<v Speaker 1>action happening in such close proximity to the festival and

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<v Speaker 1>the encampments is that the people at the festival and

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods who did not consent to participating in

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<v Speaker 1>a high profile direct action got disproportionately hit with the

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<v Speaker 1>immediate repression from police. A lot of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>were arrested were completely unaware of the actions that took

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<v Speaker 1>place at the North Gate. Even if those actions were

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent justified in the end, it still creates

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<v Speaker 1>a dynamic with an unequal distribution of police violence. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the woods are an inherently dangerous place to be

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<v Speaker 1>and people are not responsible for actions that police choose

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<v Speaker 1>to take. But there are still considerations to be had

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<v Speaker 1>regarding the proximity of space and time when engaging in

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<v Speaker 1>more risky actions, and how the consequences of those actions

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<v Speaker 1>may affect people who did not consent to participating in

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<v Speaker 1>actions at other locations, especially when people are lulled into

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<v Speaker 1>a false sense of safety by claiming that police have

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<v Speaker 1>never cracked down hard in the forest during previous weeks

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<v Speaker 1>of action.

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<v Speaker 52>Yeah, in terms of the actions done Sunday, in reference

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<v Speaker 52>to a group of people assaulting a like police position,

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<v Speaker 52>driving them out with force, and then burning their shit,

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<v Speaker 52>that was all good, and we should not denounce that

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<v Speaker 52>A step away from it. It only harms the movement

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<v Speaker 52>to back away from radical action and act like there

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<v Speaker 52>are definitions of good or bad protesters, because eventually the

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<v Speaker 52>logical conclusion of that is snitching, and that only furthers

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<v Speaker 52>like the GBI's motivations to tear the movement apart. What

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<v Speaker 52>went wrong Sunday is as a result of two things

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<v Speaker 52>it's one that the police used indiscriminate violence when people

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<v Speaker 52>beat them. They were beaten, they got angry, and they

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<v Speaker 52>were beaten because they got their shit rock by like fireworks.

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<v Speaker 52>And then they use in discriminate violence against people who

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<v Speaker 52>they knew were on the side of like where the

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<v Speaker 52>events were that weren't where all the militants were coming

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<v Speaker 52>back from. They didn't want to go up against those

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<v Speaker 52>people because they're cowards. And second, because of how big

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<v Speaker 52>the movement's gotten over the past two years, the strategy

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<v Speaker 52>of the Weeks of Action has stagnated. It's made it

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<v Speaker 52>so work, so compact in a singular week that when

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<v Speaker 52>you have all the diversity of tactics that exist within

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<v Speaker 52>Defend the Atlanta Forest and stop Coop City, those tactics,

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<v Speaker 52>with how big everything is now, they start to step

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<v Speaker 52>on each other's toes. They can hurt each other sometimes

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<v Speaker 52>because yeah, not everyone who was at the RC field

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<v Speaker 52>was like ready for the consequences of like a militant

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<v Speaker 52>radical action like that. And that doesn't mean that the

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<v Speaker 52>action wasn't good or justified, because the action was wildly successful.

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<v Speaker 52>There were no arrests made at that action. There were

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<v Speaker 52>a rest made when the police got angry and used

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<v Speaker 52>indiscriminate violence because they were pissed off and they wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>To riot, so they retaliated at a music festival that

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<v Speaker 1>was happening nearby.

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<v Speaker 52>Yes, and that's the fault of nobody but the police.

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<v Speaker 52>That's not the fault of the people who went and

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<v Speaker 52>assaulted that outpost. That's only the fault of the police,

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<v Speaker 52>and really the fault of a bad long term strategy

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<v Speaker 52>of two heavily compacting factors of you know, being just

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<v Speaker 52>like a weak and where making it so this movement

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<v Speaker 52>where people can take radical action, it feels so limited

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<v Speaker 52>to just inside the forest because that puts people in

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<v Speaker 52>harm's way, and that put people in harms way, including

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<v Speaker 52>the people who you know, went and did the thing

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<v Speaker 52>on Sunday. But no, it would be wrong as the

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<v Speaker 52>movement to like balk out a radical action like that.

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<v Speaker 52>Radical action like that is such a big part of

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<v Speaker 52>why this movement has been as successful as it has been.

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<v Speaker 52>It's a huge part of why the police did do

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<v Speaker 52>like a full sweep or a larger sweep or a

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<v Speaker 52>series of raids in the following days because they were

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<v Speaker 52>afraid that those three hundred to four hundred people who

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<v Speaker 52>hit that out posts were lying and waiting in the forest,

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<v Speaker 52>ready to attack them because they were afraid of militant

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<v Speaker 52>radical action.

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<v Speaker 1>On Thursday, when I was in front of the APF building,

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<v Speaker 1>I could like hear some of the supervisors and coordinators

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<v Speaker 1>talking about being scared of ambushes or like being scared

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<v Speaker 1>of splinter groups, like being staged to attack officers. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's bizarre how fearful they are. Of the types of

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<v Speaker 1>people who are opposing the cop city project, they're.

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<v Speaker 52>The most afraid of the people who are willing to

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<v Speaker 52>go do physical violence to them, and not even physical violence,

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<v Speaker 52>but people who are just willing to like throw a

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<v Speaker 52>rock at them or like a firework. Once they realize

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<v Speaker 52>that they haven't paralyzed somebody with fear, once they realize

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<v Speaker 52>that they have not made you so afraid of taking action,

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<v Speaker 52>they become such cowards.

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<v Speaker 1>In the aftermath of the police killing forest defender Tortigita,

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement agencies tried to claim that Tortigita shot at

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<v Speaker 1>the first leaving one officer injured, but recently released findings

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<v Speaker 1>from multiple autopsies have cast more doubt on the state's

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<v Speaker 1>version of events. On the afternoon of Friday, March tenth,

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<v Speaker 1>Towards the end of the week of action, the family

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<v Speaker 1>of Tortighita released the findings of an independent autopsy done

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<v Speaker 1>by former GBI Chief Medical Examiner, doctor Chris Sperry. The

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<v Speaker 1>results suggested that Tortighito was sitting cross legged with their

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<v Speaker 1>hands in front of their face when shot and bullet

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<v Speaker 1>exit wounds through the palms of both of their hands.

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<v Speaker 1>The family ordered autopsy also did not find any evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of gunshot residue from a GSR test kit. And then

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<v Speaker 1>a month later, De Cab County released the results of

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<v Speaker 1>their official autopsy, which found at least fifty seven bullet

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<v Speaker 1>wounds across Tortigita's body and according to this autopsy, torte

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<v Speaker 1>did not have any gunpowder residue on its hands. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>a few days later, via a public records request, the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Community Press Collective received the gunshot residue test kit

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<v Speaker 1>from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation's crime Lab. The document

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<v Speaker 1>contained the names of six Georgia State Patrol SWAT members

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<v Speaker 1>who shot and killed Tortigita, Bryland L. Myers, Jerry A. Parish,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Salceda, Jonathan Mark lamb Ronaldo Kegel, and Royce Zaw,

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<v Speaker 1>with Zaw being the subject of a lawsuit after he

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<v Speaker 1>shot a protester in the face with a les lethal

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<v Speaker 1>round during the George Floyd protests in May of twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>The document also included the results of the GBI's crime

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<v Speaker 1>lab report, claiming that they found quote the presence of

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<v Speaker 1>more than five particles characteristic of gunshot primer residue unquote

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<v Speaker 1>from a test kit, with the report also stating quote,

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<v Speaker 1>it should be noted that it is possible for a

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<v Speaker 1>victim of gunshot wounds to have gas are present on

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<v Speaker 1>their hands, considering that among the more than fifty seven

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<v Speaker 1>gunshot wounds were entrance and exit wounds on Tortighita's hands,

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<v Speaker 1>which could be caused for gunshot residue if the crime

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<v Speaker 1>lab findings are genuine. The findings do not point to

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<v Speaker 1>any specific interpretation of events, as it's not unusual to

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<v Speaker 1>find primer residue on the hands of a victim following

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<v Speaker 1>the path of a bullet. Plus, coupled with the ever

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<v Speaker 1>changing story from the GBI, on the ground chatter from

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<v Speaker 1>APD officers claiming that Georgia State Patrol quote fucked their

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<v Speaker 1>own officer Upot. As well as reports from forced defenders

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<v Speaker 1>from the day of the shooting, there is indication that

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia State Patrol most likely suffered from so called friendly fire,

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<v Speaker 1>with many people believing that the killing of Tortighita was

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<v Speaker 1>essentially an execution.

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<v Speaker 10>Instant.

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<v Speaker 1>Reports obtained via public records requests also revealed that GSP

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<v Speaker 1>fired a quote unquote, a Leslie Thual pepperball gun at

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<v Speaker 1>d Tortighita's tent as SWAT initially approached, once again contradicting

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<v Speaker 1>the claims made by GBI officials in the months since

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<v Speaker 1>the killing. As the week came to a close on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>March eleventh, a memorial service for Tortighita was held in

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<v Speaker 1>the Malani Forest, where Tort's family spread their ashes in

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<v Speaker 1>the forest it died to protect. I attended the Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>morning memorial. The sky opened up and poured down rain

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<v Speaker 1>in South Atlanta throughout the whole morning. Hundreds of people

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<v Speaker 1>gathered in Wollanne People's Park to light candles under a

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<v Speaker 1>canopy and hear from Towrt's family. Then, led by Tortighita's mother,

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<v Speaker 1>we walked through the forest to the site of the shooting,

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<v Speaker 1>where a banner hung that read, quote on this ground

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<v Speaker 1>gsp assassinated forest defender, comrade, friend, lover Tortigita unquote. Family

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<v Speaker 1>and friends spread Tortigita's ashes throughout the woods along the

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<v Speaker 1>path to quote Candice burned in truth out. In contrast

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<v Speaker 1>to its tumultuous start, Sunday's vigil and ceremony provided a

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<v Speaker 1>somber and heartfelt close to the fifth week of Action.

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<v Speaker 1>I met up with Matthew Johnson after the memorial to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss the week of Action, and we briefly touched on

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<v Speaker 1>the memorial in the forest.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that.

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<v Speaker 18>We have to hold space for very real grief. We

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<v Speaker 18>lost a friend, and at the same time, just two

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<v Speaker 18>days ago, on a Friday, what we always knew to

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<v Speaker 18>be true was found to clearly be true. Tortigita was murdered,

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<v Speaker 18>and we have to bear the burner of that pain.

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<v Speaker 18>And all the people in power lied and even gave

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<v Speaker 18>their condolences to a state trooper that seemed.

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<v Speaker 8>As if he was shot by a state trooper.

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<v Speaker 18>And did not say a mumbling word to even acknowledge

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<v Speaker 18>our friend's existence and the value of their life. And

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<v Speaker 18>this morning was beautiful. I had been able to meet

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<v Speaker 18>Bilkis Tortugita's mother previously, and she really does have a

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<v Speaker 18>beautiful spirit. I've really grown appreciation for that family, and

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<v Speaker 18>just to see just how large these gatherings were like

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<v Speaker 18>throughout the week, even in spite of the hoopla and

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<v Speaker 18>the opening weekend, it was very encouraging. But in a

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<v Speaker 18>lot of ways, Tortugita has become the face of this

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<v Speaker 18>movement because they really did light up wherever they were.

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<v Speaker 18>One thing that's gotten me through thinking about when you

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<v Speaker 18>would just see them sometimes and they would just give

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<v Speaker 18>you the biggest, like cheesiest smile, like out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 8>I just.

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<v Speaker 18>And like that like got me through the first week

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<v Speaker 18>after their passing. Yeah, but I've grown a great appreciation

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<v Speaker 18>for that family because in so many ways, tord Ti

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<v Speaker 18>Gita is their hero. And just learn how consistent they

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<v Speaker 18>were as like such a welcoming and loving and caring

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<v Speaker 18>person just meant so much. I mean to know that

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<v Speaker 18>this wasn't something new that they had stumbled upon. They

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<v Speaker 18>had lived this whole life of caring and making space

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<v Speaker 18>for others.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of Toward's friends have raised concerns that a side

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<v Speaker 1>effect of toward unwittingly becoming the face of the movement,

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<v Speaker 1>is that the details around their death have eclipsed some

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<v Speaker 1>of what they died fighting for in doing so, stripping

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<v Speaker 1>toward of their individuality and removing their own agency to

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<v Speaker 1>turn them into this perfect liberal, friendly avatar of the

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<v Speaker 1>movement to simply be used as a political tool and

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<v Speaker 1>add to a list of demands.

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<v Speaker 52>There's a thing that's been happening more and more recently

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<v Speaker 52>that I've been bothered by, which is when organizations, specifically

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<v Speaker 52>more liberal organizations, are invoking towards name actions, they're misgendering

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<v Speaker 52>the hell out of them, and it's alienating a lot

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<v Speaker 52>of people. And I understand that Sunday's action alienated a

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<v Speaker 52>lot of liberal orgs. This is a problem with the

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<v Speaker 52>week of Action type strategy, with the diversity of tactics

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<v Speaker 52>all being forced under one roof. But we cannot stand

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<v Speaker 52>to alienate each other. And it's really frustrating and really

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<v Speaker 52>angering to see this really beautiful soul be flattened into

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<v Speaker 52>just a murder that these liberals want them to be,

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<v Speaker 52>stripping them of so much of their life and what

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<v Speaker 52>was a revolutionary life and a revolutionary death into just

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<v Speaker 52>martyrdom by taking away their identity and who they were

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<v Speaker 52>and making them nothing more than someone who was murdered

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<v Speaker 52>when they were someone who is living such a full

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<v Speaker 52>and beautiful life until the day they died. And this

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<v Speaker 52>movement will tear itself apart if we do not accept

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<v Speaker 52>the fullness of towards life, what it stood for, and

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<v Speaker 52>what they live for. This movement has always been built

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<v Speaker 52>on a lot of trans people in the woods fucking

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<v Speaker 52>the cops up, and if we alienate those people were fucked,

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<v Speaker 52>there's no winning and we can't lose. We don't have

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<v Speaker 52>a choice about this anymore. We have to win by

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<v Speaker 52>any means necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>That will wrap up our day to day coverage of

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<v Speaker 1>the entire week of action, but much has happened in

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<v Speaker 1>the intervening two months, so in the next episode we'll

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<v Speaker 1>cover where the movement is now, discuss the future of

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<v Speaker 1>the fight to stop Cop City, and offer a more

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<v Speaker 1>critical retrospective on the fifth week of action. See you

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side, welcome back to it could happen here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a bonus fifth episode following my coverage of

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<v Speaker 1>the Stop Coop City Week of Action in.

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<v Speaker 10>March of twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>This will be a more critical retrospective on the week

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole and offer a glimpse into what the

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<v Speaker 1>movement might look like in the next few months as

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<v Speaker 1>we are rapidly approaching summer. In the last episode, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the police repression of protests and demonstrations as

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<v Speaker 1>they happen, but we have yet to mention the various

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<v Speaker 1>methods of state repression the movement is facing.

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<v Speaker 10>Day to day.

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<v Speaker 1>Repression for the Week of Action started well before the

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<v Speaker 1>kickoff rally in Gresham Park. Emails from early February obtained

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<v Speaker 1>via public records requests found that the Atlanta Police Foundation

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<v Speaker 1>and its contractors were waiting for quote indictments to the

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<v Speaker 1>leaders unquote of the Stopcob City and Defend the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>Forest movement to quote the Atlantic Community Press Collective. In

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<v Speaker 1>a February third email to APF board members, the director

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<v Speaker 1>of Public Affairs, Rob Baskin, calls the Defend the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>Forest and Stop Coop City movement a quote conspiracy of

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<v Speaker 1>protesters against the Public Safety Training Center investigated by a

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<v Speaker 1>consortium of federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>Baskin promised the APF Board in an email quote that

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<v Speaker 1>the recent arrests, our receipt of the land and disturbance permit,

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor's announcement of the project will be moving forward,

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<v Speaker 1>and the continued investigation by law enforcement will dampen activists' efforts.

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<v Speaker 1>We will likely see more indictments in the coming weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in February, Brestfield and Gory, the general contractor for

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<v Speaker 1>the project, planned to mobilize for land clearing around April,

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<v Speaker 1>but told the Atlanta Police Foundation that subcontractor bidding wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen quote until indictments have happened unquote, And then, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks later, twenty three people were charged with

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<v Speaker 1>domestic terrorism at a music festival. Matt from the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>Community Press Collective talked about the history of domestic terrorism

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<v Speaker 1>charges in the movement and how they affected bail proceedings.

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<v Speaker 2>The domestic terrorism charges go back to the middle of December,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when the first of them happened, and up until

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<v Speaker 2>the week of action, there have been a total of

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen arrest or individuals who have been charged with domestic

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<v Speaker 2>terrorism and then of those people, anyone who did not

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<v Speaker 2>have either a Georgia license or could not prove like

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia residency, they were all initially denied bond, but everyone

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<v Speaker 2>who lives here they were able to get bond. Before

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<v Speaker 2>the bond hearing, we're kind of there are discussions that

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way that they're going to hold twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>people without bond with on such flimsy evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the most people that have been arrested and held

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<v Speaker 1>in one day. It really is in relation to the

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<v Speaker 1>movement so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is the largest mass arrest of the movement,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of inconceivable for twenty three people to

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<v Speaker 2>be held without bond. So we get to the bail hearing.

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<v Speaker 2>The first person has their mother come on. Their lawyer

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<v Speaker 2>brings their mother on, who swears essentially on like every

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<v Speaker 2>religious text ever written, that her child will immediately go

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<v Speaker 2>home with her and she will personally bring her child

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<v Speaker 2>back to every court hearing and her child will have no,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, further contact with the movement and all of

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<v Speaker 2>these things. And the judge denies the bond. So at

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<v Speaker 2>that point it's like, okay, there, you know, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to go back to the old thing. If

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<v Speaker 2>you can't prove residency, you're you're you're not getting out.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like person number five is from Athens, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>which is about an hour outside of Atlanta, and the

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<v Speaker 2>judge denies her bond, not because the judge thinks she's

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<v Speaker 2>a flight risk, but because she is a threat to

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<v Speaker 2>the community. And that was the moment where the understanding changed.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, oh no, like nobody's getting out of me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, this isn't this isn't a real this isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>real bond. Here at the press conference after the leaf raid,

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<v Speaker 1>Kamal Franklin from the Community Movement Builders spoke about it

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<v Speaker 1>the years of state repression against people fighting to stop

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<v Speaker 1>Cop City.

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<v Speaker 39>This movement has been repressed by the states, by the

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<v Speaker 39>city since its very beginnings. When we first started organizing

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<v Speaker 39>in twenty twenty one, where we had rallies in demonstration,

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<v Speaker 39>we would have police break them up, throw people to

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<v Speaker 39>the ground, pepper spray them, and arrest them. We had

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<v Speaker 39>over twenty arrest in our first years of rallying and

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<v Speaker 39>demonstrating against Cop City.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time, those.

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<v Speaker 39>Folks were charged with resisting arrests, obstruction of governmental administration,

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<v Speaker 39>and then the police decided to step up their tactics,

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<v Speaker 39>and they started to form a task force, a task

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<v Speaker 39>force that included at the Atlanta Police so, the Cab

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<v Speaker 39>County Police, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, Georgia State Troopers,

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<v Speaker 39>the Federal Bureau of Investigation at Homeland Security, where they

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<v Speaker 39>began to talk about bringing charges of domestic terrorism against

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<v Speaker 39>organizers and activists. And so now we're coming to a

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<v Speaker 39>point where they're raiding houses, where they're telling organizers and

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<v Speaker 39>activists that they can't stand on corners and legally give

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<v Speaker 39>out leaflets.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the judge kept saying like, I'm not here

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<v Speaker 2>to hear anything on evidentiary claims and I'm not here

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<v Speaker 2>to engage with the domestic terrorism statute. Like both of

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<v Speaker 2>those were I think very valid things that defense attorneys

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<v Speaker 2>kept bringing up, because.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, they're problematic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one of the defense attorneys mentioned that the way

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<v Speaker 1>people are being charged with domestic terrorism right now doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really have any legal basis in the state of Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>because the terrorism law works as like an enhancement for

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<v Speaker 1>other folonial charges, and these people aren't being charged with

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<v Speaker 1>anything besides domestic terrorism. There's no evidence these people committed

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<v Speaker 1>any actual crimes. So they're just being charged with terrorism.

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<v Speaker 1>This like nebulous concept. The judge said that the legal

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<v Speaker 1>basis of these claims will have to be decided on

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<v Speaker 1>another day. Similarly, they said that in regards to actual

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<v Speaker 1>evidence that these people charged did any crimes, she said

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<v Speaker 1>that she had none of this evidence in front of

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<v Speaker 1>her and that evidence is for another day. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the main reasons the judge said that defendants were denied

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<v Speaker 1>bond was due to quote a lack of ties to

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<v Speaker 1>community in Atlanta. But regarding this ties to the community aspect,

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<v Speaker 1>the judge had this weird double standard. There was this

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<v Speaker 1>one person arrested and charged who lives with their partner

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta, who also had ties to another state where

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<v Speaker 1>they had previously lived. So despite them having ties to

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<v Speaker 1>the community in Atlanta, which was one of the main

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<v Speaker 1>things the judge considered for this one individual, they were

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<v Speaker 1>still denied bond on the basis that this individual also

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<v Speaker 1>has ties to a different community, thus deeming them a

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<v Speaker 1>flight risk even though they currently live in Atlanta. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons that the judge mentioned is based on

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<v Speaker 1>the arrest warrants that she was given for why these

3:26:11.120 --> 3:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>people were a threat to the community. Is that the

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<v Speaker 1>state claims that they were in possession of metal shields

3:26:18.360 --> 3:26:22.599
<v Speaker 1>as they were being arrested. You know, shields the offensive

3:26:22.680 --> 3:26:26.440
<v Speaker 1>weapon that shows that you are a threat you holding

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<v Speaker 1>a shield. And so first of all, that's that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>funny on us on that on that level.

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<v Speaker 2>When you and I were coming in on Saturday and

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<v Speaker 2>along with the march, we passed by a bunch of shields,

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<v Speaker 2>right and they were kind of placed near the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the path, like in anticipation that there might be

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<v Speaker 2>police presents. And I took pictures of the shields and

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<v Speaker 2>they are evidently plastic shields. There's no way of mistaking

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<v Speaker 2>them for anything other than plastic.

3:26:57.879 --> 3:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>The plastic five gallon shields that you see almost every

3:27:00.560 --> 3:27:04.680
<v Speaker 1>protest in every city across the country. The cops know

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<v Speaker 1>what these things are. That the fact that they claimed

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<v Speaker 1>that people were arrested carrying metal shields is so ludicrous

3:27:11.360 --> 3:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>because there was not There was not a single metal

3:27:13.879 --> 3:27:16.720
<v Speaker 1>shield at this music festival. And there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>footage of these arrests. I don't there's I've not seen

3:27:19.560 --> 3:27:22.680
<v Speaker 1>evidence that every that any person was arrested that was

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<v Speaker 1>carrying a shield, let alone a metal one.

3:27:25.680 --> 3:27:28.520
<v Speaker 2>There's this weird thing where so typically when you do

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<v Speaker 2>these these bail hearings, the the defense attorneys waive the

3:27:32.840 --> 3:27:38.280
<v Speaker 2>reading of the warrant typically because they have already gone

3:27:38.320 --> 3:27:40.520
<v Speaker 2>over that with their client, and you know, everybody's aware,

3:27:40.520 --> 3:27:42.720
<v Speaker 2>and it just kind of speeds up the process. And

3:27:42.760 --> 3:27:45.720
<v Speaker 2>it was like really notable that these attorneys weren't doing it,

3:27:46.640 --> 3:27:49.600
<v Speaker 2>and once you started to listen to them, you notice

3:27:49.640 --> 3:27:54.520
<v Speaker 2>this very repetitive nature of them. And so about halfway

3:27:54.560 --> 3:27:57.160
<v Speaker 2>through we get to a lawyer who straight up calls

3:27:57.200 --> 3:28:01.000
<v Speaker 2>out the fact that these warrants seem like they were

3:28:01.000 --> 3:28:02.320
<v Speaker 2>just copy pasted.

3:28:02.280 --> 3:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Like every single person all the way downline. During the

3:28:05.320 --> 3:28:08.279
<v Speaker 1>first hearing, only one person was let out on bail,

3:28:08.680 --> 3:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and they were an NLG legal observer and lawyer at

3:28:11.840 --> 3:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the Southern Poverty Law Center. After the week of action,

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<v Speaker 1>on March twenty third, there were a second set of

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<v Speaker 1>bail hearings for ten of the people arrested on March

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<v Speaker 1>fifth at the South River Music Festival. In a rare move,

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<v Speaker 1>the second in command of the State of Georgia's Attorney

3:28:26.640 --> 3:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>General's office, John Fowler, was deployed to argue against granting

3:28:31.000 --> 3:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>bond Fowler, along with several top county prosecutors, weaved a

3:28:35.879 --> 3:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>complex narrative of a grand conspiracy of protesters dating back

3:28:40.120 --> 3:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>to twenty nineteen, saying that the quote unquote organization behind

3:28:44.280 --> 3:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Defend the Forest is responsible for quote one hundred incidents

3:28:48.560 --> 3:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>nationwide unquote. Fowler claimed that the Force Defenders are a

3:28:53.480 --> 3:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>well funded group with millions of dollars hiding behind five

3:28:56.879 --> 3:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>oh one c three nonprofit organizations, and that the so

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<v Speaker 1>called autonomous zone at the Wendy's where Rayshard Brooks was

3:29:03.680 --> 3:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>murdered in twenty twenty, is a part of the same organization.

3:29:08.000 --> 3:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Fowler also tempted to tie the use of laser pointers

3:29:11.320 --> 3:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>in the forest to a racial justice protests in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as a sophisticated communication network of prepaid phones,

3:29:18.440 --> 3:29:23.640
<v Speaker 1>telegram channels, proton mails, and rise up accounts. Prosecutor Lance

3:29:23.680 --> 3:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Cross stated that the quote unquote leader of the Defend

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta Forest movement never actually goes into the forest. Okay, So,

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<v Speaker 1>to paraphrase a friend of mine. As potentially dangerous as

3:29:37.200 --> 3:29:40.520
<v Speaker 1>claims like these are, it will never stop being funny

3:29:40.520 --> 3:29:44.359
<v Speaker 1>that the state just simply cannot conceive of horizontal organizing

3:29:44.400 --> 3:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>as like a real thing that exists and not just

3:29:47.120 --> 3:29:52.119
<v Speaker 1>a smoke screen for this shadowy cabal of protesters. Prosecutor

3:29:52.240 --> 3:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Lance Cross claimed that anyone at the music festival is

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<v Speaker 1>a party to the crime of the direct action that

3:29:58.240 --> 3:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>took place around one and a half kilometers away at

3:30:00.840 --> 3:30:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the construction site, and that after the direct action, individuals

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<v Speaker 1>left to return to the other side of the woods,

3:30:07.760 --> 3:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>crossing over the creek and changing out of their black block.

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<v Speaker 1>For the first defendant. At this hearing, Prosecutor Cross said

3:30:14.920 --> 3:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>that there's police helicopter video of this first person changing

3:30:18.560 --> 3:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>out of their black block, but when asked by the

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<v Speaker 1>judge if the state has any evidence that this defendant

3:30:23.600 --> 3:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>did anything illegal, not just change clothing in a forest,

3:30:26.600 --> 3:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>the prosecutor was unable to provide any such evidence. This

3:30:30.440 --> 3:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>defendant received a twenty five thousand dollars bond with a

3:30:33.560 --> 3:30:36.800
<v Speaker 1>stay away from Georgia order and a no contact order

3:30:37.000 --> 3:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>with any codefendants or anyone associated with the Defend the

3:30:40.959 --> 3:30:44.879
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Forest movement. Only one other defendant was granted bond

3:30:44.959 --> 3:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>during this hearing, a second year law student who was

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<v Speaker 1>arrested as they were eating food at a food truck

3:30:51.200 --> 3:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>At the hearing, they presented letters of support from Tibetan monks,

3:30:54.200 --> 3:30:58.039
<v Speaker 1>a former mayor, numerous academics, and Charlotte's mayor pro tem

3:30:58.360 --> 3:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>was on the call. Bond was also set at twenty

3:31:01.840 --> 3:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>five K, along with having to surrender their passport, where

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<v Speaker 1>an ankle monitor, and maintain no contact with co defendants

3:31:08.440 --> 3:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>nor join any future protests. To paraphrase my friend again,

3:31:13.040 --> 3:31:16.320
<v Speaker 1>these are old Green Scare tactics back in action and

3:31:16.480 --> 3:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>kicked into high gear. Courts are being used as a

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<v Speaker 1>meat cleaver to hack off and isolate people from their communities,

3:31:23.440 --> 3:31:26.800
<v Speaker 1>regardless of evidence. This is the type of repression that

3:31:26.879 --> 3:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>courts were born to do. Much of the repression we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing in Atlanta is a revamped version of the Green

3:31:33.360 --> 3:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Scare with additional tactics and knowledge the state gained from

3:31:36.600 --> 3:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty protests, including the targeting of jail support

3:31:40.400 --> 3:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>and bail fund organizations. Another thread in this grand Cabal

3:31:45.440 --> 3:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>of Forest Defender's narrative that the state was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>weave was that prosecutors claimed that having an Atlanta Solidarity

3:31:52.080 --> 3:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Fund jail support number on your person is evidence of

3:31:55.760 --> 3:32:00.120
<v Speaker 1>criminal intent and that the Solidarity Fund is quote being

3:32:00.160 --> 3:32:04.280
<v Speaker 1>investigated as a part of this whole thing unquote. The

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<v Speaker 1>majority of the eight individuals denied bond were not even

3:32:07.320 --> 3:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>found to be at the site of the direct action,

3:32:09.959 --> 3:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and none of the eight individuals had any evidence against

3:32:12.640 --> 3:32:16.240
<v Speaker 1>them showing they committed any crime at that location, but

3:32:16.480 --> 3:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>were still deemed a risk to the community and denied bond.

3:32:20.520 --> 3:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Being held against them is the fact that they had

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<v Speaker 1>a jail support number on their person. As former communications

3:32:26.520 --> 3:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>director at the Southern Center of Human Rights Hannah Riley said,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a gross irony that a jail support number

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<v Speaker 1>is being framed as evidence of intent to commit crimes,

3:32:36.800 --> 3:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>where in fact its evidence that we live in a

3:32:39.560 --> 3:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>horrifying police estate. A defense attorney pointed out that all

3:32:43.440 --> 3:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>of the warrants had the same bits of evidence copy

3:32:46.240 --> 3:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>pasted like this alleged possession of a metal shield, to

3:32:50.080 --> 3:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>which the prosecution claimed this was simply a typo, meaning

3:32:53.959 --> 3:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>that people were being held in jail based on typos,

3:32:58.160 --> 3:33:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and also the prosecutor responded by saying, quote, there were

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<v Speaker 1>thirty forty fifty shields out there, I can't attest that

3:33:04.920 --> 3:33:08.120
<v Speaker 1>he was carrying one. When referring to a specific defendant

3:33:08.879 --> 3:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>for one individual denied bond. Prosecutors claimed that they were

3:33:12.400 --> 3:33:16.359
<v Speaker 1>an anarchist based on information provided by Customs and Border Protection,

3:33:16.959 --> 3:33:21.119
<v Speaker 1>and yet no evidence of criminal acts were presented. Extra

3:33:21.160 --> 3:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>scrutiny was put on two defendants who were foreign nationals,

3:33:25.120 --> 3:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>with prosecutors wondering how someone from out of country could

3:33:28.879 --> 3:33:32.039
<v Speaker 1>possibly know the solidarity fund of jail support number. A

3:33:32.040 --> 3:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>defense attorney try to point out that jail support numbers

3:33:34.480 --> 3:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>are often passed out to everyone present at protests by volunteers,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the case of the circumstances regarding the raid

3:33:41.680 --> 3:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>of the music festival, panicked concertgoers were instructed to write

3:33:45.360 --> 3:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>down the jail support number as it became clear that

3:33:48.040 --> 3:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>police were indiscriminately grabbing people. Deputy Attorney General Fowler argued

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<v Speaker 1>that wearing black clothes at a protest is akin to

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a football uniform indicating a player was part of

3:34:02.160 --> 3:34:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the team who took to the field during the game.

3:34:05.360 --> 3:34:08.039
<v Speaker 1>And even if we may not know they carried the football,

3:34:08.400 --> 3:34:11.840
<v Speaker 1>we do know that they were on the field, which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even want to get into. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>still a fact that the majority of people were denied

3:34:18.400 --> 3:34:22.720
<v Speaker 1>bond because some had black clothing mud on their shoes

3:34:22.800 --> 3:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and ran from police. This is what made them a

3:34:25.520 --> 3:34:28.760
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote threat to our community, and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>evidence being used against people who were allegedly engaged in

3:34:33.080 --> 3:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>domestic terrorism. Near the end of the hearing, the judge

3:34:36.560 --> 3:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>claimed that everyone is presumed innocent and that the state

3:34:40.520 --> 3:34:42.760
<v Speaker 1>does have to bear the burden of proof beyond a

3:34:42.760 --> 3:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>reasonable doubt at some point, but not now. During this

3:34:46.600 --> 3:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>spell hearing, one of the claims was that the reason

3:34:50.080 --> 3:34:52.039
<v Speaker 1>why people were arrested is because they had mud on

3:34:52.080 --> 3:34:55.560
<v Speaker 1>their clothes. The night before the festival started, there was

3:34:55.600 --> 3:34:59.600
<v Speaker 1>a tornado warning in Atlanta. I forgot about that and

3:35:00.240 --> 3:35:04.440
<v Speaker 1>there was rain, which makes I don't know if the

3:35:04.480 --> 3:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>prosecutors know this, but when rain mixes with dirt, it

3:35:07.640 --> 3:35:10.200
<v Speaker 1>creates something called that we that we refer to as mud.

3:35:10.720 --> 3:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>So when people are, you know, at this music festival

3:35:13.080 --> 3:35:15.440
<v Speaker 1>in a field full of dirt, they might get mud

3:35:15.480 --> 3:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>on their clothes.

3:35:16.440 --> 3:35:19.320
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so if you've ever been to a music festival,

3:35:19.760 --> 3:35:22.640
<v Speaker 2>standing around for a very long period of time really annoying,

3:35:22.879 --> 3:35:27.280
<v Speaker 2>people like to sit down. So I like, my feet

3:35:27.280 --> 3:35:30.240
<v Speaker 2>were caked in mud, and I sat down a few times.

3:35:30.360 --> 3:35:33.279
<v Speaker 10>I'm I'm my docker partons are still caked in mud.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to mention the parking lot completely torn up, covered

3:35:36.720 --> 3:35:39.360
<v Speaker 2>in mud, and as I mentioned earlier, the you know

3:35:39.480 --> 3:35:42.920
<v Speaker 2>the person having like fill in mud all along the

3:35:42.959 --> 3:35:46.040
<v Speaker 2>trails with gravel, So there's mud everywhere, and it is

3:35:46.080 --> 3:35:50.000
<v Speaker 2>an inescapable fact of just being in both the forest

3:35:50.080 --> 3:35:50.880
<v Speaker 2>and the festival.

3:35:51.040 --> 3:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>At the time of the bail hearings, they've very clearly

3:35:52.959 --> 3:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>had no evidence linking individuals to crimes, so the best

3:35:56.480 --> 3:35:58.840
<v Speaker 1>they could come up with was metal shields and mud,

3:35:59.320 --> 3:36:02.800
<v Speaker 1>two things things that are completely nonsense. There was no

3:36:02.879 --> 3:36:06.040
<v Speaker 1>metal shields and oh wow, you have mud on your

3:36:06.080 --> 3:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>You have mud on your clothing. This is why you're

3:36:08.000 --> 3:36:11.320
<v Speaker 1>a terrorist. During the hearing, a defense lawyer alleged that

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<v Speaker 1>the twelve people who were detained at the music festival

3:36:13.720 --> 3:36:16.280
<v Speaker 1>but not arrested and were later released at Gresham Park

3:36:16.720 --> 3:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>were all from Atlanta, and by releasing these twelve locals,

3:36:20.680 --> 3:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>police can claim that the people arrested were from fourteen

3:36:23.720 --> 3:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>different states, which is obviously part of an attempt to

3:36:26.959 --> 3:36:30.400
<v Speaker 1>continue accelerating the outside agitator narrative that they've been pushing

3:36:30.400 --> 3:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>out since last in December.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the twenty three who were charged. Only two had

3:36:39.120 --> 3:36:44.440
<v Speaker 2>the Georgia licenses, the person from Athens and the legal deserver.

3:36:45.000 --> 3:36:47.200
<v Speaker 2>The rest were out of state and two were out

3:36:47.200 --> 3:36:51.320
<v Speaker 2>of country. So at one point during the proceedings the

3:36:52.080 --> 3:36:56.320
<v Speaker 2>bail proceedings, one of the lawyers says that from what

3:36:56.440 --> 3:36:59.800
<v Speaker 2>they understand, the twelve individuals who were let go Sunday

3:36:59.840 --> 3:37:04.200
<v Speaker 2>night all had in state licenses. So it does appear

3:37:04.280 --> 3:37:10.480
<v Speaker 2>that APD released people to continue this outside agitator narrative

3:37:10.520 --> 3:37:16.880
<v Speaker 2>that they have been using for months now, since May,

3:37:16.959 --> 3:37:18.039
<v Speaker 2>since early summer.

3:37:18.400 --> 3:37:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Prosecutor Cross responded to claims that detained local Atlantans were

3:37:22.320 --> 3:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>let go by saying that the people released were interviewed,

3:37:26.280 --> 3:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>did not have the jail support number on their arm,

3:37:28.840 --> 3:37:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and quote unquote knew little about the movement. At a

3:37:32.840 --> 3:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>press conference, Marlin from the Solidarity Fund talked about how

3:37:36.800 --> 3:37:40.760
<v Speaker 1>repression has taken form and concerns of what other tactics

3:37:40.760 --> 3:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the state may try to employ.

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<v Speaker 51>No evidence has besially presented to support any of these

3:37:46.120 --> 3:37:49.680
<v Speaker 51>claims of domestic terrorism, including on the other eighteen people

3:37:49.800 --> 3:37:52.760
<v Speaker 51>who've been given this charge previously. In this movement, police

3:37:52.760 --> 3:37:56.160
<v Speaker 51>some prosecutors are not involved in a law enforcement effort

3:37:56.520 --> 3:38:00.320
<v Speaker 51>they're involved in a political campaign to suppress a political

3:38:00.400 --> 3:38:04.080
<v Speaker 51>movement which they find objectionable because as the police, they

3:38:04.080 --> 3:38:06.480
<v Speaker 51>have a vested interest in the construction of cop City.

3:38:07.800 --> 3:38:10.359
<v Speaker 51>From a civil liberties perspective, we find this very concerning.

3:38:10.400 --> 3:38:12.840
<v Speaker 51>We find it to be an abuse of power, and

3:38:12.959 --> 3:38:15.360
<v Speaker 51>we're committed to ensuring that all of the activists who

3:38:15.360 --> 3:38:18.320
<v Speaker 51>are targeted have access to the legal resources that they need,

3:38:18.440 --> 3:38:21.280
<v Speaker 51>not only to defend themselves from these bogus charges, but

3:38:21.360 --> 3:38:25.279
<v Speaker 51>also civil litigation against police who have abused their power

3:38:25.280 --> 3:38:28.840
<v Speaker 51>and violated people's rights. We are concerned about the possibility

3:38:29.680 --> 3:38:31.959
<v Speaker 51>that prosecutors may try to use RICO.

3:38:31.760 --> 3:38:34.000
<v Speaker 50>Charges against organizers.

3:38:34.879 --> 3:38:39.040
<v Speaker 51>Because RICO is understood as a way of suppressing organizations,

3:38:40.200 --> 3:38:42.840
<v Speaker 51>and the narrative that we've seen coming from police and

3:38:42.879 --> 3:38:47.600
<v Speaker 51>prosecutors is their belief that the broad and diverse stop

3:38:47.680 --> 3:38:51.320
<v Speaker 51>Cop City movement is in fact a criminal conspiracy whose

3:38:51.360 --> 3:38:54.680
<v Speaker 51>members conspire to commit acts of terrorism.

3:38:55.160 --> 3:38:56.879
<v Speaker 50>This could not be further from the truth.

3:38:57.120 --> 3:39:00.920
<v Speaker 51>This is like a clear misrepresentation of a broad movement

3:39:00.959 --> 3:39:04.800
<v Speaker 51>that encompasses all of society. But this is the narrative

3:39:04.840 --> 3:39:07.400
<v Speaker 51>that prosecutors are trying to promulgate to make it easier

3:39:07.440 --> 3:39:08.599
<v Speaker 51>to target activists.

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<v Speaker 1>In the intervening month and a half, five more people

3:39:11.560 --> 3:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>were led out on bond. Then, on May third, a

3:39:14.720 --> 3:39:17.440
<v Speaker 1>series of preliminary hearings took place for the last three

3:39:17.440 --> 3:39:20.440
<v Speaker 1>people being held into Cab County Jail from amongst the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three individuals arrested at the music festival and charged

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<v Speaker 1>with domestic terrorism. Before the changes to the law in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen, the State of Georgia required ten or more

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<v Speaker 1>people to be killed for domestic terrorism charges to even

3:39:33.040 --> 3:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>be filed. During a wave of anti protest bills, while

3:39:37.080 --> 3:39:40.320
<v Speaker 1>citing racially motivated mass shootings. To get the bill passed,

3:39:40.720 --> 3:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the State of Georgia removed any death threshold and essentially

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<v Speaker 1>replaced it with references to property damage. To quote a

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<v Speaker 1>write up by the Atlantic Community Press Collective Quote, the

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<v Speaker 1>Cab County Magistrate, Judge James Altman explained that he decided

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<v Speaker 1>whether to uphold the charges based on two criteria. The

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<v Speaker 1>first was whether prosecutors provided enough evidence to satisfy the

3:40:02.320 --> 3:40:06.440
<v Speaker 1>conditions set forth in the Georgia Domestic Terrorism Statute, namely

3:40:06.720 --> 3:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the threat to critical infrastructure. The second criteria prosecutors needed

3:40:10.920 --> 3:40:13.840
<v Speaker 1>to meet was identification or their ability to show that

3:40:13.879 --> 3:40:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the defendants were each a party to the alleged crimes

3:40:17.360 --> 3:40:21.400
<v Speaker 1>committed on March fifth, quote, and it's worth noting that

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<v Speaker 1>the threshold for probable cause is much lower than the

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<v Speaker 1>threshold needed to convict someone of a crime. In opening arguments,

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<v Speaker 1>Assistant da Lance Cross claimed that Defend the Forest activists

3:40:32.720 --> 3:40:36.760
<v Speaker 1>are well funded and quote have a pretty good propaganda

3:40:36.879 --> 3:40:41.280
<v Speaker 1>arm on social media, and that doing direct action while

3:40:41.360 --> 3:40:45.840
<v Speaker 1>chanting stop Copcity qualifies activists to be charged under the

3:40:45.879 --> 3:40:50.439
<v Speaker 1>Georgia Domestic Terrorism Statute because it's using violence to advocate

3:40:50.560 --> 3:40:54.560
<v Speaker 1>change of government policy. Judge Altman found that the first

3:40:54.560 --> 3:40:58.000
<v Speaker 1>criteria of the domestic terrorism charges were met for all

3:40:58.040 --> 3:41:01.240
<v Speaker 1>three defendants on the basis that setting fires at the

3:41:01.240 --> 3:41:04.440
<v Speaker 1>construction site in such close proximity to a power line

3:41:04.480 --> 3:41:08.280
<v Speaker 1>tower was an attack on critical infrastructure, even if the

3:41:08.280 --> 3:41:12.480
<v Speaker 1>defendants did not themselves start any fires. Georgia Bureau of

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<v Speaker 1>Investigation Special Agent Ryan Long testified that the entire music

3:41:17.000 --> 3:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>festival was cover for the direct action against the construction site,

3:41:21.520 --> 3:41:24.800
<v Speaker 1>even without evidence of defendants in black bloc or proof

3:41:24.879 --> 3:41:28.720
<v Speaker 1>that they engaged in any destructive acts. Assistant DA Cross

3:41:28.800 --> 3:41:31.480
<v Speaker 1>said that everyone at the site was enabling the destruction

3:41:31.560 --> 3:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>of the property and as such is party to the crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Due to the assertion that the alleged crimes were only

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<v Speaker 1>possible due to the large size of the crowd, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the state's witnesses, a sergeant of the APD, said

3:41:44.160 --> 3:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>that he wouldn't be able to recognize anyone who was

3:41:47.040 --> 3:41:49.400
<v Speaker 1>at the site, and that he could not tell if

3:41:49.440 --> 3:41:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the defendant was even in the crowd of people at

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<v Speaker 1>the North Gate, let alone through rocks or set fires.

3:41:56.000 --> 3:41:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Defense argued that mere presence at a location should not

3:41:59.600 --> 3:42:03.320
<v Speaker 1>be automatic aiding and a betting, but Judge Altman said

3:42:03.360 --> 3:42:06.400
<v Speaker 1>there was sufficient evidence presented showing the acts of the

3:42:06.400 --> 3:42:09.400
<v Speaker 1>crowd and that the defendant's presence is at least sufficient

3:42:09.480 --> 3:42:12.879
<v Speaker 1>for being party to the crime, even by simply participating

3:42:13.000 --> 3:42:16.160
<v Speaker 1>at the music festival. One of the hearings was for

3:42:16.280 --> 3:42:19.119
<v Speaker 1>the indigenous person who was tased at the music festival,

3:42:19.440 --> 3:42:22.320
<v Speaker 1>who was specifically witnessed to be there during the duration

3:42:22.440 --> 3:42:25.840
<v Speaker 1>of the direct action. Under questioning from the defense, special

3:42:25.840 --> 3:42:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Agent Long said that the defendant was not visible on

3:42:28.600 --> 3:42:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the helicopter footage of the incident. After initially suggesting that

3:42:32.360 --> 3:42:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the defendant was identified by a helicopter pilot. Long rolled

3:42:36.080 --> 3:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that back by saying he was unsure if the chopper

3:42:39.040 --> 3:42:41.240
<v Speaker 1>was able to track the defendant and then had to

3:42:41.320 --> 3:42:42.840
<v Speaker 1>leave to go make a few calls to get a

3:42:42.920 --> 3:42:47.240
<v Speaker 1>more definitive answer, which he failed to provide, But the

3:42:47.320 --> 3:42:51.280
<v Speaker 1>judge still found that the second criteria of identification was

3:42:51.400 --> 3:42:54.720
<v Speaker 1>sufficient to find two of the defendants at least party

3:42:54.760 --> 3:42:58.400
<v Speaker 1>to the actions at the construction site. Special Agent Long

3:42:58.440 --> 3:43:01.279
<v Speaker 1>testified that there is a quot unquot to command structure

3:43:01.440 --> 3:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>in the Stop Cop City movement and described the movement

3:43:04.560 --> 3:43:07.680
<v Speaker 1>as a pyramid scheme created by activists with different names

3:43:07.720 --> 3:43:10.400
<v Speaker 1>like stop Coop City and Defend the Forest to act

3:43:10.440 --> 3:43:14.560
<v Speaker 1>as little different subgroups to attract new subordinate members to

3:43:14.640 --> 3:43:19.879
<v Speaker 1>operate under leadership. Long asserted that activists pretend to be

3:43:20.000 --> 3:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>ecologists one day and then anarchists the next to further

3:43:23.959 --> 3:43:27.280
<v Speaker 1>their cause, which once again we have to point out,

3:43:27.600 --> 3:43:30.160
<v Speaker 1>is on one hand, a dangerous thing to claim. On

3:43:30.200 --> 3:43:34.280
<v Speaker 1>the other hand, extremely funny social media posts were brought

3:43:34.320 --> 3:43:37.920
<v Speaker 1>up by prosecutors as evidence linking defendants to criminal acts

3:43:38.120 --> 3:43:42.560
<v Speaker 1>and a conspiracy of terrorism. During the first hearing, Special

3:43:42.560 --> 3:43:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Agent Long claimed that they knew that the defendant was

3:43:45.959 --> 3:43:49.560
<v Speaker 1>at the construction site due to street pool camera footage

3:43:49.680 --> 3:43:53.960
<v Speaker 1>and social media posts allegedly made by the defendant's friend.

3:43:54.840 --> 3:43:58.800
<v Speaker 1>In another hearing, agent Long claimed that on the defendant's

3:43:58.920 --> 3:44:02.920
<v Speaker 1>social media they were posts of stop coop City banners

3:44:02.920 --> 3:44:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and flyers, demonstrating an awareness of the nature of the

3:44:06.640 --> 3:44:11.400
<v Speaker 1>stop cop City movement. The state also cited alleged social

3:44:11.400 --> 3:44:15.400
<v Speaker 1>media posts of the defendant self describing as anti capitalist

3:44:15.520 --> 3:44:20.280
<v Speaker 1>and anti colonial as proof of criminal intent. Near the

3:44:20.400 --> 3:44:24.000
<v Speaker 1>end of the last hearing, Judge Altman said that social

3:44:24.040 --> 3:44:28.240
<v Speaker 1>media posts do not count towards probable cause. However, the

3:44:28.280 --> 3:44:31.359
<v Speaker 1>framing of social media posts by prosecutors as an indication

3:44:31.400 --> 3:44:34.520
<v Speaker 1>of guilt is still cause for alarm, and what gets

3:44:34.520 --> 3:44:37.640
<v Speaker 1>admitted as evidence during trial is still yet to be determined.

3:44:38.600 --> 3:44:41.720
<v Speaker 1>When the prosecution asked if a defendant had a jail

3:44:41.760 --> 3:44:44.959
<v Speaker 1>support number on their arm, the judge noted that, quote

3:44:45.280 --> 3:44:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the existence or non existence of an organization doesn't really

3:44:49.360 --> 3:44:52.600
<v Speaker 1>seem to me as an element of the crime unquote.

3:44:53.160 --> 3:44:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Similar to the March twenty third hearings, Prosecutor Johnson tried

3:44:56.120 --> 3:44:58.920
<v Speaker 1>to argue that the solidarity fund and jail support is

3:44:58.959 --> 3:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>an arm of the Stop Phpy movement, to which the

3:45:02.080 --> 3:45:06.720
<v Speaker 1>judge reiterated that participation in an alleged organization is not

3:45:06.879 --> 3:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>part of the crime of domestic terrorism. For one defendant,

3:45:11.120 --> 3:45:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the judge granted bond on the conditions of twenty five

3:45:13.800 --> 3:45:16.320
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars bail, with the defendant having to turn over

3:45:16.360 --> 3:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>her passport, a no contact order with other co defendants,

3:45:19.520 --> 3:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and no participation in discussion of stop coopsity on social media.

3:45:24.640 --> 3:45:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Bond for the other two defendants was denied. Ultimately, Judge

3:45:29.120 --> 3:45:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Altman upheld the domestic terrorism charges against all three defendants

3:45:34.200 --> 3:45:38.040
<v Speaker 1>on the low barrier of evidence sufficient for ruling probable cause.

3:45:38.440 --> 3:45:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Judge Altman said that, quote whether it gets any further

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<v Speaker 1>than that is not my problem, unquote, and that if

3:45:45.560 --> 3:45:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the DA wanted further charges brought against defendants, he must

3:45:49.360 --> 3:45:51.600
<v Speaker 1>use a grand jury. As the judge did not find

3:45:51.720 --> 3:45:56.160
<v Speaker 1>probable cause for arson or assault on an officer, Judge

3:45:56.200 --> 3:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Altman mentioned that he was concerned about alleged witnesses intimidation

3:46:00.840 --> 3:46:04.879
<v Speaker 1>by members of the Defend the Forest movement. Meanwhile, in

3:46:04.920 --> 3:46:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the adjacent Fulton County, there was also a preliminary hearing

3:46:08.800 --> 3:46:11.440
<v Speaker 1>for one of the six people arrested at the protest

3:46:11.520 --> 3:46:15.360
<v Speaker 1>in downtown Atlanta on January twenty first, the Saturday following

3:46:15.400 --> 3:46:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the killing of Tortigita. Judge Ashley Drake upheld a total

3:46:19.680 --> 3:46:23.600
<v Speaker 1>of eight charges, including one of domestic terrorism, and the

3:46:23.600 --> 3:46:27.240
<v Speaker 1>next day the defendant was released on bail. One thing

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<v Speaker 1>of note from this hearing is that Deputy Attorney General

3:46:30.480 --> 3:46:34.280
<v Speaker 1>John Fowler compared the Defend the Forest movement to nine

3:46:34.320 --> 3:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>eleven by saying, quote, protesters were trying to knock out

3:46:38.959 --> 3:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the windows of one to nine to one Peachtree Street.

3:46:42.760 --> 3:46:52.320
<v Speaker 1>That is a dangerous situation. That's a twin towers unquote.

3:46:52.400 --> 3:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>When talking about the various hearings, I mentioned helicopter and

3:46:56.680 --> 3:47:00.160
<v Speaker 1>street pole camera footage of the direct action on Sunday

3:47:00.400 --> 3:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>that both prosecutors and the defense were using to support

3:47:03.600 --> 3:47:06.600
<v Speaker 1>their claims, and I think it's worth diving a bit

3:47:06.640 --> 3:47:11.000
<v Speaker 1>deeper into specifically the police helicopter footage, since I like

3:47:11.120 --> 3:47:13.520
<v Speaker 1>keeping up with the methods that police are using to

3:47:13.600 --> 3:47:17.280
<v Speaker 1>surveil and suppress protest. I'm going to start by letting

3:47:17.320 --> 3:47:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Police Chief Darren Sheerbaum walk us through what was

3:47:20.959 --> 3:47:24.800
<v Speaker 1>able to be observed via helicopter mounted cameras. Based on

3:47:24.840 --> 3:47:27.200
<v Speaker 1>his testimony during the city council meeting that took place

3:47:27.480 --> 3:47:30.240
<v Speaker 1>less than twenty four hours after the incident.

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<v Speaker 30>Individuals were seeing changing out of the clothes that they

3:47:32.879 --> 3:47:35.880
<v Speaker 30>were wearing at the concert and were now dressing themselves

3:47:35.879 --> 3:47:39.840
<v Speaker 30>in all black with backpacks with items fensive nature approaching.

3:47:40.040 --> 3:47:43.000
<v Speaker 30>What we saw is this group moved rather quickly to

3:47:43.080 --> 3:47:45.959
<v Speaker 30>the site for the proposed public safety trading center. They

3:47:46.000 --> 3:47:49.000
<v Speaker 30>move quickly on the group of officers that were assembled there.

3:47:49.320 --> 3:47:52.560
<v Speaker 30>These officers had been stationary at the site protecting the location.

3:47:52.959 --> 3:47:55.520
<v Speaker 30>In the first line, there are individuals with shields that

3:47:55.560 --> 3:47:58.320
<v Speaker 30>are forming The officers attempted to first to de escalate

3:47:58.360 --> 3:48:03.560
<v Speaker 30>by repositioning themselves. You repositioning themselves inside of the fenced

3:48:03.560 --> 3:48:07.039
<v Speaker 30>in area. The officers again start to reposition because they

3:48:07.080 --> 3:48:09.520
<v Speaker 30>can tell this is not a peaceful demonstration. So you

3:48:09.560 --> 3:48:13.959
<v Speaker 30>just start to see smoke occurring as fires are set,

3:48:14.360 --> 3:48:17.920
<v Speaker 30>malotov cocktails are thrown, and fireworks are discharged from our

3:48:18.000 --> 3:48:20.160
<v Speaker 30>air unit that is deployed in the area. You will

3:48:20.160 --> 3:48:23.199
<v Speaker 30>see individuals that have started to move against the officers.

3:48:23.840 --> 3:48:27.960
<v Speaker 30>They will have start throwing rocks fireworks as they are

3:48:27.959 --> 3:48:30.280
<v Speaker 30>pushing the officers in the area where we see individuals

3:48:30.320 --> 3:48:33.320
<v Speaker 30>as another group is engaging the officers with rocks, Malotov

3:48:33.320 --> 3:48:35.840
<v Speaker 30>cocktails and bottles are moving to set fire to the

3:48:35.879 --> 3:48:38.320
<v Speaker 30>various equipments in the area. While you see in the

3:48:38.360 --> 3:48:40.080
<v Speaker 30>left hand of the gentleman with the mask over his

3:48:40.120 --> 3:48:42.600
<v Speaker 30>face is a Malotov cocktail it is being there will

3:48:42.640 --> 3:48:45.160
<v Speaker 30>be accelerants in his hands that will be used also

3:48:45.280 --> 3:48:47.520
<v Speaker 30>to attack some of the construction equipment that is in

3:48:47.560 --> 3:48:51.800
<v Speaker 30>the area. These individuals are massed hide their identity. This

3:48:52.000 --> 3:48:55.439
<v Speaker 30>is playing out across the area that had been previously

3:48:55.480 --> 3:48:56.120
<v Speaker 30>been fenced in.

3:48:56.840 --> 3:48:58.760
<v Speaker 29>There will be generators.

3:48:58.280 --> 3:49:01.000
<v Speaker 30>That are will be destroyed, other pieces of equipment that's

3:49:01.040 --> 3:49:04.800
<v Speaker 30>being destroyed. There you see more accelerant being thrown onto

3:49:04.920 --> 3:49:07.280
<v Speaker 30>the vehicle that is being set on fire.

3:49:07.560 --> 3:49:08.960
<v Speaker 29>And what you see here, ladies.

3:49:08.760 --> 3:49:12.280
<v Speaker 30>And gentlemen, is as some of the individuals that had

3:49:12.360 --> 3:49:15.520
<v Speaker 30>just previously attacked the worksite returned back into the woods.

3:49:15.560 --> 3:49:18.320
<v Speaker 30>They start changing back into the clothes that they were

3:49:18.400 --> 3:49:21.600
<v Speaker 30>just wearing moments before, as they were portraying themselves to

3:49:21.640 --> 3:49:24.600
<v Speaker 30>be attendees of the event that was occurring in the music.

3:49:24.640 --> 3:49:27.280
<v Speaker 30>So it was clear today that we saw repeat of

3:49:27.320 --> 3:49:30.360
<v Speaker 30>what we've seen in the past where events that are

3:49:30.400 --> 3:49:34.200
<v Speaker 30>shown to be peaceful and to being publicized as to

3:49:34.200 --> 3:49:38.080
<v Speaker 30>be peaceful are being used by individuals as cover to

3:49:38.160 --> 3:49:41.880
<v Speaker 30>launch illegal and criminal attacks. We had a rapid response

3:49:41.920 --> 3:49:44.880
<v Speaker 30>from our partners at the Decab County Police Department, the

3:49:44.880 --> 3:49:46.640
<v Speaker 30>Sheriff of Fulton County.

3:49:46.560 --> 3:49:48.120
<v Speaker 29>As well as the Georgia State Patrol.

3:49:48.720 --> 3:49:51.680
<v Speaker 30>Those officers entered into the woods as individuals were attempting

3:49:51.680 --> 3:49:54.360
<v Speaker 30>to flee, hide the weapons they had just used, as

3:49:54.360 --> 3:49:56.800
<v Speaker 30>well as to change their clothing, and we begin to

3:49:56.840 --> 3:49:59.240
<v Speaker 30>make a number of arrest.

3:49:58.760 --> 3:50:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I spoke with the unnamed Forest defender about the surveillance

3:50:02.080 --> 3:50:04.960
<v Speaker 1>capabilities of the state on full display during the week

3:50:05.000 --> 3:50:05.400
<v Speaker 1>of Action.

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<v Speaker 52>I find that the thermal helicopter video fascinating for a

3:50:08.880 --> 3:50:11.160
<v Speaker 52>variety of reasons. One, it's interesting to look at the

3:50:11.160 --> 3:50:14.000
<v Speaker 52>surveillance capacity of the state. It's, to my memory, the

3:50:14.040 --> 3:50:16.520
<v Speaker 52>first time the APD has ever posted their own thermal

3:50:16.560 --> 3:50:19.480
<v Speaker 52>chopper footage. It's a very similar camera to the type

3:50:19.520 --> 3:50:21.920
<v Speaker 52>you would see on a birector on some kind of

3:50:22.040 --> 3:50:25.200
<v Speaker 52>armed unmanned aerial vehicle. What I found most interesting about

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<v Speaker 52>the thermals is exactly how they were using that type

3:50:27.400 --> 3:50:29.720
<v Speaker 52>of targeting software to attract people, and I think it's

3:50:29.760 --> 3:50:31.480
<v Speaker 52>worth people knowing what they were doing with it, so

3:50:31.520 --> 3:50:33.600
<v Speaker 52>we have an idea how to counter it. When you're

3:50:33.680 --> 3:50:36.040
<v Speaker 52>using a software to tract targets on an optical lens,

3:50:36.080 --> 3:50:38.640
<v Speaker 52>at least during a daytime event, thermals are easier because

3:50:38.640 --> 3:50:40.720
<v Speaker 52>it breaks the image up into just two colors white

3:50:40.720 --> 3:50:42.440
<v Speaker 52>and then like black and gray, so they can track

3:50:42.480 --> 3:50:44.360
<v Speaker 52>the body heat shapes of people in white and then

3:50:44.400 --> 3:50:46.240
<v Speaker 52>just click the thermals off, get a snapshot of the

3:50:46.280 --> 3:50:48.560
<v Speaker 52>outfit they're wearing, click the thermals back on, and track

3:50:48.600 --> 3:50:50.320
<v Speaker 52>them easier than it is to track them with just

3:50:50.360 --> 3:50:52.800
<v Speaker 52>a normal camera. This gives them a clear image of

3:50:52.800 --> 3:50:54.640
<v Speaker 52>what they're wearing before they d blocked, and then they

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<v Speaker 52>can go back to tracking that person, follow them to

3:50:56.560 --> 3:50:58.400
<v Speaker 52>where they're de blocking, wait for them to de block,

3:50:58.400 --> 3:51:01.200
<v Speaker 52>get another picture with the regular camera, and then arrest them.

3:51:01.880 --> 3:51:03.640
<v Speaker 52>So that meant that when people were leaving, it was

3:51:03.720 --> 3:51:06.920
<v Speaker 52>advantageous to be deep blocking under overhead cover, under thick brush,

3:51:06.960 --> 3:51:08.840
<v Speaker 52>under thick canopy, out of direct line of site with

3:51:08.880 --> 3:51:11.160
<v Speaker 52>the chopper, you know, not in the open air. It's

3:51:11.240 --> 3:51:13.560
<v Speaker 52>definitely a really hard thing to counter. The surveillance. State's

3:51:13.560 --> 3:51:15.200
<v Speaker 52>one of the things that I find the most fearful

3:51:15.200 --> 3:51:18.120
<v Speaker 52>about the police state. Not like individual beat cops. They're

3:51:18.120 --> 3:51:20.760
<v Speaker 52>guns and shit are cool or whatever, But man, those cameras,

3:51:21.000 --> 3:51:21.800
<v Speaker 52>they're really something.

3:51:21.840 --> 3:51:22.040
<v Speaker 16>You know.

3:51:22.080 --> 3:51:23.880
<v Speaker 52>I think the Portland Police Bureau just got a new

3:51:23.880 --> 3:51:26.400
<v Speaker 52>spy plane and new Sessna loaded up with surveillance equipment

3:51:26.440 --> 3:51:28.600
<v Speaker 52>and shit like that. All that stuff does so much

3:51:28.640 --> 3:51:30.360
<v Speaker 52>more to fuck you up than just like a riot

3:51:30.360 --> 3:51:32.440
<v Speaker 52>team does. You can throw mortars at a riot team. Sorry,

3:51:32.480 --> 3:51:35.320
<v Speaker 52>I shouldn't say mortars. Fireworks that are called mortars.

3:51:35.320 --> 3:51:35.720
<v Speaker 1>My bad.

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<v Speaker 52>Don't want to lean into the explosives narratives. Honestly, they're

3:51:38.600 --> 3:51:42.320
<v Speaker 52>fucking weird about fireworks. But you know, those surveillance capacities

3:51:42.320 --> 3:51:43.760
<v Speaker 52>are one of the hardest things to counter.

3:51:44.280 --> 3:51:46.800
<v Speaker 1>One term that's already come up during our coverage of

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<v Speaker 1>Stop Coop City is Fuco's boomerang, And while that still

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<v Speaker 1>applies here, we're now also kind of getting into some

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<v Speaker 1>panaptocon territory, as shown by this type of surveillance capacity,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically at actions. And one of the biggest reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>the panopticon works is that people are scared of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It scares you away from even taking action in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place.

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<v Speaker 52>And like, as soon as you overcome that paralyzing fear,

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<v Speaker 52>the cops become really afraid of you. That's why we

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<v Speaker 52>say that, like the biggest weapon that the state has

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<v Speaker 52>is fear, because like the cops go from these big,

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<v Speaker 52>fucking tough guys to like whining cowards the second you

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<v Speaker 52>just become not afraid. You don't even have to beat them,

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<v Speaker 52>you don't have to overcome the actual physical weapons. But

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<v Speaker 52>once you get out of that headspace, that paralyzing fear,

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<v Speaker 52>once you let it pass over you and through you,

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<v Speaker 52>they're fucking terrified. And if we're gonna win, we need

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<v Speaker 52>to be their worst nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>As state repression against the stop cop City movement continues,

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<v Speaker 1>the coalition against the police training facility only continues to grow.

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<v Speaker 1>Last month, Angela Davis returned an award proclamation given to

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<v Speaker 1>her by the Atlanta City Council in protest of cop City.

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<v Speaker 46>If the attempts by the Atlanta Police to build the

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<v Speaker 46>largest police training grounds in the country are successful, this

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<v Speaker 46>will represent a major setback for the movement for radical

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<v Speaker 46>democratic futures, not only throughout the US, but globally as

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<v Speaker 46>well as a person who has participated in campaigns against

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<v Speaker 46>prisons and police for far longer than a half century.

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<v Speaker 46>I want to salute all those who are involved in

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<v Speaker 46>the stop cup City movement, and I want to urge

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<v Speaker 46>people everywhere to find ways to generate support for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Angela Davis made it clear that she stood in solidarity

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<v Speaker 1>with force defenders facing repression from the police and the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Atlanta, and joined in calls to halt the

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<v Speaker 1>construction of this facility, which will only serve as a

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<v Speaker 1>tool to advance what she called militarized police rights and repression.

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<v Speaker 46>Atlanta activists are on the front lines of the abolitionist movement,

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<v Speaker 46>at its crucial intersection with movements to save our forests,

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<v Speaker 46>indeed to save our planet. The attempt to build a

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<v Speaker 46>massive militarized police training facility is a dangerous and ominous

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<v Speaker 46>development that we have to oppose with all our might,

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<v Speaker 46>and so I want to join those who are standing

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<v Speaker 46>strong in defense of the forest against the construction of

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<v Speaker 46>this police training ground. I urge people everywhere to join

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<v Speaker 46>the campaign to stop up City.

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<v Speaker 1>After Angelie Davis's announcement, the Walter Rodney Foundation released a

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<v Speaker 1>statement reporting Davis's decision and against the construction of Cop City.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting to see their more mainline sort of center

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<v Speaker 2>or center left like organizations that have begun to come

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<v Speaker 2>on board. Even with what happened Sunday and especially the

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday march and rally, had it necessitated a response from

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<v Speaker 2>the city. So Friday morning there was actually an organization

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<v Speaker 2>concerned Black Clergy who had a press conference like calling

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<v Speaker 2>out Cop City protesters, and so you had this like

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<v Speaker 2>very state run. One of the city council members, Antonio Lewis,

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<v Speaker 2>was there like live streaming at the entire time. And

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<v Speaker 2>so you can tell the efficacy of a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things that have happened this week by how the city

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<v Speaker 2>is reacting and how like it is necessitating them going

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<v Speaker 2>to greater and greater lengths to like try to show

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<v Speaker 2>that the movement is wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>One way that the city has been working to advocate

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<v Speaker 1>for the further development of the Cop City project is

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<v Speaker 1>by launching a website of their own for the Public

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<v Speaker 1>Safety Training Center full of videos of the mayor and

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<v Speaker 1>police chief walking through South Atlanta trying to convince neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>that the project is a good idea. In the past

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<v Speaker 1>few months. The city has also been turning the official

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<v Speaker 1>City of Atlanta Twitter account into a hilarious copp City

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<v Speaker 1>propaganda outlet. About two weeks after the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>Week of Action, on March twenty fourth, to Cab County

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<v Speaker 1>CEO Michael Thurmond announced an executive order to indefinitely close

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<v Speaker 1>Entrenchment Creek Park, also known as Wallani People's Park, claiming

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<v Speaker 1>that the park was a danger to the public due

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<v Speaker 1>to booby traps allegedly found in the forest. At a

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<v Speaker 1>press conference, Thurman displayed photos of wooden boards with nails

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<v Speaker 1>sticking out of them allegedly found in the park. The

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<v Speaker 1>executive order reads that the park will quote remain closed

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<v Speaker 1>until further notice to protect the safety of the families,

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<v Speaker 1>residents and visit and their pets in the area, and

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<v Speaker 1>to County personnel. A few days after the announcement, to

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<v Speaker 1>Cab police led a joint task force in a raid

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<v Speaker 1>of the Willani Forest and Entrenchment Creek Park. The land

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<v Speaker 1>was effectively cleared of all force defenders, with one person

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<v Speaker 1>being arrested. During the raid, The memorial for Tortigito was

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<v Speaker 1>destroyed by the police and cement barricades were set up

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<v Speaker 1>around the entrances and exits to the park. Days later,

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<v Speaker 1>police and contractors began cutting trees in the Wilani Forest,

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<v Speaker 1>with no one around to resist the destruction. The Solidarity

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<v Speaker 1>Fund to put out a statement saying, quote, closing down

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<v Speaker 1>a public park in order to prevent protests from happening

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<v Speaker 1>in that space is unconstitutional. To CAB CEO Michael Thurmond,

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to do an end run around the First Amendment.

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<v Speaker 1>Dacab County Commissioner Ted Terry is pushing to reopen the

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<v Speaker 1>park through a resolution expected to be introduced in early May.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't just the park's closure that made force

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<v Speaker 1>defense more challenging. After the mass action at the North

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<v Speaker 1>Gate in early March, security was greatly increased at the

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<v Speaker 1>construction sites in the Willani Forest, with massive spotlights illuminating

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<v Speaker 1>the area to daylight levels twenty four hours a day,

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<v Speaker 1>which made returning to the sort of night time sabotage

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<v Speaker 1>actions in the forest that pioneered some of the movements

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<v Speaker 1>militancy in its early days to be much more complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>During my conversations with forest defenders, there was still a

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<v Speaker 1>desire to see more of those small sabotage actions as

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<v Speaker 1>the large daytime mass actions seemed to result in more

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<v Speaker 1>people getting arrested near the site of militant activity.

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<v Speaker 52>People are angry, you know, like their friend, our friend

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<v Speaker 52>was murdered. You can just feel however you want about this,

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<v Speaker 52>but like a lot of people and I guess myself included,

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<v Speaker 52>are just really angry. There's this kind of blinding rage

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<v Speaker 52>that comes with it of just like eye for an eye,

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<v Speaker 52>blood for blood. You know that the police killed our

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<v Speaker 52>friend and that they need to hurt for that one,

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<v Speaker 52>and they need to hurt for all the people that

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<v Speaker 52>they've murdered and all the things they're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 52>And that leads people to take actions that may not

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<v Speaker 52>be well thought out, but that are very well intentioned

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<v Speaker 52>and have tangible results that hurt the police state, but

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<v Speaker 52>that are actions that do bring harm to themselves or others,

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<v Speaker 52>because there are not you know, these like middle of

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<v Speaker 52>the night slash and run sabotage attacks that don't have

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<v Speaker 52>arrests happen that are safer. And I think we should

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<v Speaker 52>see a return of that tactic because the level of

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<v Speaker 52>police presence that we saw at all the actions this

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<v Speaker 52>week post Sunday, like doing shit at downtown protests. Fuck that, Like,

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<v Speaker 52>that's not like we're not pulling shit off there without

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<v Speaker 52>a mass arrest or, like everyone's getting gassed. Like it's

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<v Speaker 52>not a tactically advantageous or viable way of doing things.

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<v Speaker 52>But I think people wanted to prove to the cops

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<v Speaker 52>that like, no, no, no, we could open field fuck

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<v Speaker 52>them up. And yeah, there were consequences to that, but

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<v Speaker 52>people fuck them up in the open field, and that's

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<v Speaker 52>worth ap Plotting.

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<v Speaker 1>The bounds of the forest is not the only location

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<v Speaker 1>actions take place. Just about a week after the park

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<v Speaker 1>closure and when some of the clearcutting began, a report

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<v Speaker 1>back was posted online that read quote, on the night

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<v Speaker 1>of Wednesday, April fifth, we set fire to three excavators

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<v Speaker 1>owned by Brent Scarborough Company on a site across from

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<v Speaker 1>the Federal Penitentiary in Atlanta. Brent Scarborough is the company

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<v Speaker 1>and individual responsible for clearcutting the Willani Forest. Copcity will

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<v Speaker 1>never be built unquote. The March twenty twenty three week

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<v Speaker 1>of action was always going to be a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>turning point in showcasing what will be seen in the

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<v Speaker 1>struggle to defend the forest to this spring, and how

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<v Speaker 1>that will then lead into the summer and what forms

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<v Speaker 1>of resistance people will choose to take, whether that be

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<v Speaker 1>another singular week of action or take notes from the

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<v Speaker 1>Old Earth First playbook and try to do a whole

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<v Speaker 1>summer of action. How do you kind of see the

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<v Speaker 1>movement too top Cup City like changing or evolving in

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<v Speaker 1>the next few months. I mean, because all this is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of I felt like it's been kind of very

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<v Speaker 1>much on the heels of what happened in January. People

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<v Speaker 1>have tried to, like, you know, just try to find

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<v Speaker 1>new paths of resistance in the wake of the police

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<v Speaker 1>killing r How do you how do you see like

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<v Speaker 1>the fight continuing at this stage where like they have

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<v Speaker 1>some line of Germans permits, there's early construction. What are

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<v Speaker 1>like the avenues of resistance that people are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>go down.

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<v Speaker 18>I think that we have to be very clear in

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<v Speaker 18>assessing what has worked installing the project and what will

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<v Speaker 18>work to stop the project, because those aren't necessarily the

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<v Speaker 18>same things. I think there are nuances in particular strategies.

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<v Speaker 18>There is a difference between especially in our particular context.

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<v Speaker 18>That's similar between the difference between gorilla warfare and urban

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<v Speaker 18>guerrilla warfare and I see that guerilla warfare is more

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<v Speaker 18>so when people have been destroying equipment, you know, at contractors,

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<v Speaker 18>you know, offices or wherever, or like near the forest,

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<v Speaker 18>et cetera, and you could just hide off into the

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<v Speaker 18>woods and just like disappear back into nothingness.

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<v Speaker 8>Nobody gets touched. What we have to look at with.

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<v Speaker 18>The actions at the music festival were it exposed a

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<v Speaker 18>lot of people because and this is once again because

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<v Speaker 18>the police acted so heavy handedly. But we also know

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<v Speaker 18>that the police act heavy handedly, which is why we're here.

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<v Speaker 18>So that gets kind of dicey because that's like kind

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<v Speaker 18>of like urban guerrilla warfare where you have the gorillas

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<v Speaker 18>just shooting paw pa pal and then like running into.

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<v Speaker 8>Somebody's grandma's house.

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<v Speaker 18>People do not fuck with the people that just running

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<v Speaker 18>grandma's house for cover, right, And that's where things get

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<v Speaker 18>a little bit dicey, because in many ways, a lot

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<v Speaker 18>of us were looking at means to open up the

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<v Speaker 18>movement with this week of action, and that was what

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<v Speaker 18>was widely in stood for a lot of people. And nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 18>when you just come in with the boomstick from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 18>that dictates the tone of the rest of the week

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<v Speaker 18>and then where you could, you know, for instance, operate

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<v Speaker 18>from a space of like moral authority. It becomes much

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<v Speaker 18>easier for people on the fence to justify to themselves.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, what are the police supposed to think? Right?

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<v Speaker 18>I mean, we have to realize that there are several

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<v Speaker 18>like mental resistances that have been taught to people for

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<v Speaker 18>them to try to discredit us. And I just I

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<v Speaker 18>think there's some important context. Right when Martin Luther King

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<v Speaker 18>Junior was doing like the nonviolent direct action, at a

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<v Speaker 18>certain point, they had to make a calculated decision to

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<v Speaker 18>include women and children in the marches because they had

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<v Speaker 18>assessed in America had become too desensitized to seeing black

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<v Speaker 18>men beaten in the streets. Right, So that was a

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<v Speaker 18>tactical decision to bring in more people.

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<v Speaker 11>Right.

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<v Speaker 18>So there are like calculations that people have to make

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<v Speaker 18>and assessions that they have to make based on the

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<v Speaker 18>information that we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Dealing with through talking with forced defenders. I've heard a

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<v Speaker 1>variety of internal critiques of the Week of Action format

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<v Speaker 1>because it is such a concentrated time period. The week

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<v Speaker 1>of Action can give police a very concentrated time to

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<v Speaker 1>over police and over surveil and for activists. It can

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<v Speaker 1>open up an expenditure of energy during the week, which

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<v Speaker 1>then can lead to a lack of energy leading up

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<v Speaker 1>to what's been called the week of repression in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time following a week of action, after people from

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<v Speaker 1>out of town leave, it then leads into a week

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<v Speaker 1>of repression where police will then do a rate of

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<v Speaker 1>the forest and have their sort of retaliation the week after.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been talk of potential changes to some of the

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<v Speaker 1>Week of Action format, perhaps doing something more akin to

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<v Speaker 1>a summer of resistance.

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<v Speaker 52>So the week of repression is always the week that

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<v Speaker 52>comes after the week of Action, where the cops are like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 52>the bulk of your reserve, if you're out of state

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<v Speaker 52>supporter is gone. We're going to come fuck you up.

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<v Speaker 52>Now they are less of you. Now you're less ready

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<v Speaker 52>to deal with us. And that is like a major

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<v Speaker 52>strategic flaw in the weeks of action because it kind

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<v Speaker 52>of creates a activist tourism for people coming out of state,

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<v Speaker 52>and not that Atlanta doesn't appreciate their support and their solidarity,

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<v Speaker 52>and that so many of those out of state people

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<v Speaker 52>do stay long term, but it does create a situation

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<v Speaker 52>where like, yeah, we're having an influx of people for

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<v Speaker 52>a week, building infrastructure for a week, and then the

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<v Speaker 52>bulk of those people, a good percentage are going to

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<v Speaker 52>go home because yeah, like traveling long term is hard.

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<v Speaker 52>People have jobs, kids, whatever, you have commitments wherever you are,

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<v Speaker 52>and they have to go home. And then the cops

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<v Speaker 52>just wreck our shit and do raids, and like, unless

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<v Speaker 52>people want to get on board with doing some pretty

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<v Speaker 52>crazy shit, those raids are hard to counter. It would

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<v Speaker 52>behoove us to take a realistic audit of what the

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<v Speaker 52>weeks of action have meant and what they are actually

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<v Speaker 52>useful for which the strategic gains of the weeks of

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<v Speaker 52>action are always now going to be more metaphysical than physical.

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<v Speaker 52>They bring people to this space, They give them a

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<v Speaker 52>closeness to the forest that they would not achieve without

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<v Speaker 52>actually coming here. But as far as tangibly, like materially

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<v Speaker 52>stopping cop City, those kind of middle of the night

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<v Speaker 52>slash and run attacks, tertiary targeting of contractors, all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 52>that's how you pressure the money, and the money's where

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<v Speaker 52>you win.

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimately, it's up to the autonomous actors that make up

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<v Speaker 1>this so called movement and how their choices will determine

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<v Speaker 1>how the fight to stop Cop City will grow and evolve.

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<v Speaker 1>As I'm writing this, just thirty minutes ago we found

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<v Speaker 1>out that the clearcutting at the Cop City construction site

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<v Speaker 1>has essentially been completed. The overhead photos are devastating. Where

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<v Speaker 1>there were young, growing trees just weeks ago is now

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<v Speaker 1>a flattened mound of red clay and dirt, as if

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<v Speaker 1>the ground itself was bleeding. I counted over one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>trees uprooted from the earth. Hundreds of people have dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>years of their life to defending this forest, and the

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<v Speaker 1>site of sizeable destruction has brought out a variety of

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<v Speaker 1>reaving reactions. If cop City doesn't get built in the Wallawni,

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<v Speaker 1>the land could be carefully reforested and healed via regenerative permaculture.

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<v Speaker 1>With intentional stewardship, the forest could grow to be ecologically

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<v Speaker 1>healthier than it was before. In some ways, the destruction

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<v Speaker 1>that has already taken place makes it even more vital

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<v Speaker 1>to try and stop the construction of cop City. No

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<v Speaker 1>one is advocating a defeatist approach where force defenders essentially

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<v Speaker 1>give up and let the police foundation build it, because

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<v Speaker 1>there are still numerous ways to fight against the construction

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<v Speaker 1>of this facility, But now is not the time to

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<v Speaker 1>sugarcoat the dire situation people are in, and there should

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<v Speaker 1>be time allowed to grieve this loss as well as

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<v Speaker 1>strike back against the destruction. It would be a mistake

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<v Speaker 1>to gaslight each other and act as if we're closer

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<v Speaker 1>than ever to halting the Cop City project. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it's gotten this far itself is devastating. From the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>people have said that even if they do believe that

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<v Speaker 1>Cop City will never be built, the Atlanta Police Foundation

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<v Speaker 1>and police will absolutely attempt to do as much damage

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<v Speaker 1>as they can possibly get away with anyway, both to

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<v Speaker 1>force defenders and to the forest itself. The past few months,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been increasingly hearing the vice versa of that sentiment.

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<v Speaker 1>If Cop City does end up getting built, people have

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<v Speaker 1>pledged that the Atlanta Police Foundation will have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for every inch they take. Even if there is no

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<v Speaker 1>longer hope to save the entire Wilani Forest, then we

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<v Speaker 1>must do so without hope. At least, there is always vengeance.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a long road ahead, and there is still

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<v Speaker 1>much to do. To quote my favorite anarchomonarchist, Tolkien, at

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<v Speaker 1>this moment, the movement will hone its focus to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>or at the very least disincentivize, the physical construction of

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<v Speaker 1>cop City.

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<v Speaker 52>I think it'd be worth thinking of this movement as

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<v Speaker 52>an almost two year old movement that's outgrown the week

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<v Speaker 52>of action. You know, why limit ourselves to seven days?

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<v Speaker 52>Fuck it, do a summer, you know, do three months

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<v Speaker 52>of like we're doing three months of action in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 52>Come to Atlanta whenever you want, and then go home

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<v Speaker 52>and do shit at home. There wills fargos where you live.

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<v Speaker 52>There are Chase banks where you live. There are Atlas

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<v Speaker 52>construction offices where you live. And yeah, you should come

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<v Speaker 52>to Atlanta and you should come see the space, and

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<v Speaker 52>you should be in the forest, and you should feel

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<v Speaker 52>like the love and community that's there. We win by

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<v Speaker 52>fighting on enough fronts that they can't fight us back

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<v Speaker 52>on all of them. The state dies by a thousand cuts,

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<v Speaker 52>not by all of us being in one place where

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<v Speaker 52>they can kettle our asses. Like, that's just not how

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<v Speaker 52>we're going to win. So, yeah, if we had three

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<v Speaker 52>months of like we're occupying the forest for three months,

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<v Speaker 52>come to the space whenever you feel like it.

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<v Speaker 16>But you know.

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<v Speaker 52>Hopefully when people go home they feel inspired to like

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<v Speaker 52>understand that they can do just as much hitting those

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<v Speaker 52>companies where they live as they can here, because the

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<v Speaker 52>money's all going to the same place. The CEO at

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<v Speaker 52>the top doesn't care if you hit their businesses in

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<v Speaker 52>Georgia or in fucking Illinois, or in Oregon or Washington

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<v Speaker 52>or whatever. The money's all the same.

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<v Speaker 1>A phrase I've been hearing a lot lately is cop

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<v Speaker 1>city is everywhere to quota communicate, posted on scenes, dot no, blogs,

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<v Speaker 1>dot org.

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<v Speaker 10>Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>We will keep winning, not just here in so called Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>but we must attack all across these so called states.

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<v Speaker 1>The money and power that seek to kill us and

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<v Speaker 1>a Destroyablanni are nationwide, and so our movement must be nationwide.

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<v Speaker 1>A net of resistance, too vast to comprehend and too

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<v Speaker 1>resilient to suppress. Reality is the battlefield, but so called America,

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<v Speaker 1>all of it is the backdrop unquote. When chief is

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<v Speaker 1>sheerbamb gave testimony at city council even he mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>far reaching manifestations of the fight to stop cop City.

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<v Speaker 30>We have been seeing over the last number of months,

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<v Speaker 30>crimes that have been occurring in other cities focused towards

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<v Speaker 30>the public safety training center. So we have seen arsons

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<v Speaker 30>and cities outside of Atlanta. We've seen the destruction of

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<v Speaker 30>property outside of Atlanta, and we've seen the harassment of.

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<v Speaker 29>Private sector employees outside of Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 30>So that is the next is where the Federal Pure

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<v Speaker 30>of Investigation has been assisting in this administigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said in the second episode, the stakes of

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<v Speaker 1>the movement may soon exceed the bounds of the forest

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<v Speaker 1>and cop City, and in fact that process it may

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<v Speaker 1>have already begun. We are seeing stop Coop City turn

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<v Speaker 1>into a new mode of insurgency and resistance to modern

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<v Speaker 1>policing in general, not simply limited to the construction of

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<v Speaker 1>this one a training center, as the police are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to build a training center to practice quelling future civil unrest.

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<v Speaker 1>The site of the Malani Forest and beyond has been

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<v Speaker 1>a training ground for anarchists and those who fight the

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<v Speaker 1>ever growing police estate the past two years. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a dangerous playground for experimentation and liberation. Applications for the

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<v Speaker 1>lessons learned in the Mulani Forest extend far past the

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<v Speaker 1>barriers of the woods. As a far right attack on

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<v Speaker 1>abortion and trans people are accelerating across this country, but

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<v Speaker 1>especially the South. Perhaps some of the organizing infrastructure that's

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<v Speaker 1>been developed can take new focus on these battlegrounds, and

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<v Speaker 1>even just the mere existence of the struggle against cop

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<v Speaker 1>City in Atlanta has been a deterrent for other cities

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<v Speaker 1>and states seeking to push forward similar proposals. But as

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<v Speaker 1>the movement possibly expands past its original scope in these

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<v Speaker 1>next few months, people will need to be careful that

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<v Speaker 1>the idyllic notion of the struggle doesn't eclipse the original

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<v Speaker 1>and still active goal, which is to stop cop City.

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<v Speaker 1>Cop city is indeed everywhere, but the current manifestation in

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta is unique to Atlanta, and the corresponding struggle to

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<v Speaker 1>stop the physical construction of this training facility cannot be

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<v Speaker 1>overlooked in favor of fantasies of utopian anarchy. To steal

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<v Speaker 1>an idea from Matt of the Community Press Collective, one

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<v Speaker 1>interpretation of the phrase cop city is everywhere is the

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<v Speaker 1>realization that Atlanta is a cop city, and it already

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<v Speaker 1>has been for years without us knowing it, and if

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<v Speaker 1>we don't turn back the tide here, cop city will

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<v Speaker 1>be exported.

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<v Speaker 18>Everywhere Atlanta once again because of the Atlanta Police Foundation

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<v Speaker 18>is the most surveiled city in the country because of

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<v Speaker 18>twenty seventeen's Operation Shield program where they put tons of

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<v Speaker 18>cameras all throughout the city and essentially made it a

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<v Speaker 18>surveillance state once again. Crime has continued to go up

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<v Speaker 18>during this time, and that would have significantly more to

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<v Speaker 18>do with the disparity of wealth and opportunities of Black

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<v Speaker 18>Atlantans that are born under the poverty line. Only five

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<v Speaker 18>percent of them are projected to ever cross that line.

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<v Speaker 18>At the same time, the average median income of black

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<v Speaker 18>households is one third that of the average median income

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<v Speaker 18>of white households in Atlanta, So that's about thirty five

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<v Speaker 18>thousand dollars to one hundred and four thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 8>And so.

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<v Speaker 18>The wealth is just so disproportionately spread, and so much

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<v Speaker 18>of the labor intensive economy is predicated on it that

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<v Speaker 18>black people are pigeonholed into service economy jobs and they

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<v Speaker 18>have very few opportunities here. Now, that type of inequality

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<v Speaker 18>breeds discontent and people looking for other opportunities, and the

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<v Speaker 18>police are ready to catch them at every turn for

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<v Speaker 18>arresting the juvenile in the point system that they have

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<v Speaker 18>for Atlanta police department, it's five points. However, you only

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<v Speaker 18>receive a quarter of a point as a police officer

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<v Speaker 18>if you answer a service call. So police officers often

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<v Speaker 18>ignore service calls because that doesn't give them.

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<v Speaker 8>The credit that they want.

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<v Speaker 18>So, just to put that in context, you get twenty

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<v Speaker 18>times the credit in Atlanta's point quota system for arresting

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<v Speaker 18>a juvenile then going where people actually wanted police to

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<v Speaker 18>show up, and we're supposed to be convinced that this

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<v Speaker 18>system is made to keep us safe.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The City of Atlanta and the Police Foundation wants Copcity

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<v Speaker 1>to be a national training center for police to come

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<v Speaker 1>and practice militaristic counterinsurgency for export across the country. They

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<v Speaker 1>murdered someone to further this goal. All eyes must be

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<v Speaker 1>on Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 36>Cop City is a symbol of police repression. Cop City

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<v Speaker 36>is a symbol of the oppression of the people of Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 36>I want you to look around and see the families

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<v Speaker 36>here in this part today.

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<v Speaker 10>These are people who came because.

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<v Speaker 13>They're concerned for their children.

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<v Speaker 36>These are people who are concerned because they don't want

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<v Speaker 36>their city overrun by militarization.

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<v Speaker 1>The level of repression the movement is face is a

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<v Speaker 1>sign that the state feels like this movement is a

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<v Speaker 1>threat and the state feels like this movement has the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of actually succeeding, so in response, they're increasing repression.

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<v Speaker 1>And on the flip side of that, during this past

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<v Speaker 1>week of action, I saw a lot of affirmation that

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be successful and that people believe

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<v Speaker 1>that they will stop Cop City. A common refrain during

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<v Speaker 1>the past week of action is that cop City will

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<v Speaker 1>never be built, and I believe that we will win.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been such a unique emphasis on the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>people believe that this fight is one hundred percent winnable

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<v Speaker 1>and that people do have the ability to stop cop City,

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<v Speaker 1>and that people who are participating truly believe that, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is an important part of why it's

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<v Speaker 1>gotten as far as it has.

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<v Speaker 22>We can get everything we want for this city. We

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<v Speaker 22>can stop cop City. We got the power.

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<v Speaker 46>We believe y'all.

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<v Speaker 22>There's gonna be a lot of people tell us about

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<v Speaker 22>what we can't do, about what these organizers are here

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<v Speaker 22>can't do.

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<v Speaker 46>Tell them what it tells about what we we we

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<v Speaker 46>can't do. I'm to tell you all of us out here,

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<v Speaker 46>we're organizers. We are in a business.

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<v Speaker 22>I've taken that which other people say it is impossible,

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<v Speaker 22>we make it possible.

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<v Speaker 3>As long as we believe I say we are.

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<v Speaker 20>Believe, I believe that we will win.

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<v Speaker 1>This is interesting to me because in my experience, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of leftists and anarchists approach much of their practice

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<v Speaker 1>with the concept of them expecting to not succeed, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to do it anyway, which there is a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fated beauty to that in a certain way.

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<v Speaker 1>And part of that is taking action even if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it will lead to a decisive victory. But

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<v Speaker 1>also I think fe that being in that mindset might

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<v Speaker 1>set you up for that outcome. If you're preparing to fail,

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<v Speaker 1>that means you're probably going to fail or at the

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<v Speaker 1>very least limit the ways that you do action. And

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<v Speaker 1>throughout this movement thus far, it's been interesting the degree

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<v Speaker 1>to which people are convinced that they are going to win.

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<v Speaker 52>If you're being prepared to fail, you won't take the

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<v Speaker 52>radical action that it takes to win. Winning's hard, and

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<v Speaker 52>winning means doing things that are scary and uncomfortable, and

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<v Speaker 52>doing things that put you in danger, and doing things

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<v Speaker 52>that are new and unknown and different and taking new

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<v Speaker 52>strategies and doing new things, and we in the US

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<v Speaker 52>and a lot of other places, but this is US

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<v Speaker 52>based movements. So there's so much learned helplessness on the

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<v Speaker 52>left here from so many years of like we lost

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<v Speaker 52>it Occupy and then we lost in Ferguson and Standing Rock,

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<v Speaker 52>and in twenty twenty, all of these movements that put

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<v Speaker 52>big body blows to the state put some hits in,

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<v Speaker 52>but we're just followed by these waves and waves of oppression.

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<v Speaker 52>We've learned so much helplessness. And for the first time

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<v Speaker 52>in my life, I'm looking at a movement that I'm like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 52>we can fucking beat them. And people are stagnating, we're

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<v Speaker 52>blinking because of what happened on Sunday, and like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 52>what happened on Sunday prove that we can win. It

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<v Speaker 52>proved that we can one fight them in the open

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<v Speaker 52>field and beat them, that they are afraid of us,

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<v Speaker 52>that they will see territory if we hit them, And

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<v Speaker 52>it proved that they are so afraid of us that

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<v Speaker 52>they need to mobilize fucking ten different police departments to

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<v Speaker 52>come deal and then they won't even step into the

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<v Speaker 52>actual brush of the forest because they think we're the

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<v Speaker 52>fucking vietcom that proves we can win more than anything

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<v Speaker 52>that proves we can win. And if we do not

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<v Speaker 52>accept that, what is proved that we can win is

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<v Speaker 52>like property destruction and to a degree doing violence, we

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<v Speaker 52>won't win. Those fireworks helped a lot. They pushed the

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<v Speaker 52>cops out and like, we shouldn't balk at that, And

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<v Speaker 52>I guess I don't classify that as violence. The police

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<v Speaker 52>classify that is violence what they consider taking hits, I guess.

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<v Speaker 52>But yeah, we are so on the cusp of a

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<v Speaker 52>make or break kind of deal here, and the only

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<v Speaker 52>way that we win is not this internal debate we're

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<v Speaker 52>having about the efficacy of tactics. It's doubling down on

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<v Speaker 52>what we're already doing because it's working, and expanding on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe that copsity will be actually stopped?

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<v Speaker 8>We got to and here's what I mean by that.

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<v Speaker 8>This is the line. Right we have.

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<v Speaker 18>Environmental racism, police militarization and brutality, and police and racism,

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<v Speaker 18>and it's all coming to a head right here in

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<v Speaker 18>this particular movement. We have to win because what they're

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<v Speaker 18>doing now is to build capacity to make sure that

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<v Speaker 18>we can't win, right and so why people are pushing

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<v Speaker 18>so hard is that, as we've seen over the past

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<v Speaker 18>couple of weeks, the police have plenty of like tanks

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<v Speaker 18>and shit and all sorts of militarized tactical gear. And

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<v Speaker 18>now they're trying to build another base in the blackest

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<v Speaker 18>part of the city and to build up more capacity

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<v Speaker 18>to put down any sense of rebellion or push back

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<v Speaker 18>against empire. We cannot allow it to happen. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 18>there is so much money going to kill people in

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<v Speaker 18>end life. And if we win right here and make

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<v Speaker 18>this stand right here, that changes the potentiality for how

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<v Speaker 18>we view how to keep one another safe and how

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<v Speaker 18>to reinvest in ourselves and our people throughout this country

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<v Speaker 18>in a huge way. I think that we are at

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<v Speaker 18>the precipice of not only winning cup City, but pushing

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<v Speaker 18>back the tide of the cult of death that this

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<v Speaker 18>country has become.

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<v Speaker 1>The clear cuts in the Malaune forest at this stage

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<v Speaker 1>serve a threefold per one. It obviously gets them closer

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<v Speaker 1>to construction and the mass land grading that is scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>to start on May twenty third two. It's a ploy

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<v Speaker 1>by the APF to secure additional needed funds from Copcity investors.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, it's to demoralize the people who spent years

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<v Speaker 1>of their life working to stop this project.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything that police have done is essentially always a reprisal, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the movement does something and the police clamp down in

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<v Speaker 2>a reprisal to try to repress the movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Police always escalate, but they have always been like in

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<v Speaker 1>response to something.

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<v Speaker 2>And their goal, of course is to quiet and chill

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<v Speaker 2>free speech and end the movement. But every time this happens,

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite effect is what comes out of it. And

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<v Speaker 2>from the domestic terrorism rest in December, like really, that's

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<v Speaker 2>when this even larger groundswell of national support happened and

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<v Speaker 2>people started to take notice because this was an extreme measure.

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<v Speaker 1>And then with the killing of Tortighita in January, that

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<v Speaker 1>changed so much about the movement, including people's personal connection

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<v Speaker 1>to this struggle, where no longer are people doing this

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<v Speaker 1>simply because they believe it is what's right. They are

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<v Speaker 1>doing this because they have to, because the state cannot

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<v Speaker 1>get away with this, This death cannot be in vain,

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<v Speaker 1>and now people believe that they have to succeed or

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least make this state pay for every inch,

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<v Speaker 1>and that may mean looking beyond the binary of a

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<v Speaker 1>victory and defeat. According to a construction timeline from this

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<v Speaker 1>past April, the Atlanta Police Foundation plans to start construction

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<v Speaker 1>on August twenty ninth, twenty twenty three, in order for

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<v Speaker 1>a quote unquote soft opening of the facility in December

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty four. One hiccup that the APF has

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<v Speaker 1>run into is that it seems they have yet to

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<v Speaker 1>secure enough money to finish the project and have been

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<v Speaker 1>forced to ask their investors and the city for more

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<v Speaker 1>additional despite scaling back their plans for the project. As

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<v Speaker 1>a short clip put together by the Atlanta Community Press

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<v Speaker 1>Collective explains.

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<v Speaker 53>The city Council will in fact have to vote on

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<v Speaker 53>whether or not to allocate thirty three million taxpayer dollars

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<v Speaker 53>to the construction of cop City in the very near future. Additionally,

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<v Speaker 53>the Atlanta Police Foundation budget documents show that current construction

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<v Speaker 53>plans have been scaled back from what was originally promised.

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<v Speaker 53>This indicates a failure by the foundation to raise the

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<v Speaker 53>promise sixty million.

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<v Speaker 29>Dollars in private funds.

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<v Speaker 53>Should the city vote down this funding package of thirty

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<v Speaker 53>three million. It is difficult to see a path forward

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<v Speaker 53>for the Atlanta Police Foundation's effort to begin construction on

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<v Speaker 53>Cop City anytime in the near future.

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<v Speaker 1>The City Council has actually not yet voted to approve

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<v Speaker 1>the allocation of millions of dollars in city funds to

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<v Speaker 1>the Cop City project.

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<v Speaker 53>Through an open records request, we were able to get

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<v Speaker 53>our hands on emails between the Atlanta Police Foundation and

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<v Speaker 53>Atlanta's Deputy Chief Operating Officer, Leachandra Berts. In this email exchange,

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<v Speaker 53>the Police found expressed a need for the city to

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<v Speaker 53>provide thirty three point five million dollars in funding for

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<v Speaker 53>the project. Bergs responded by mentioning the need for legislative

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<v Speaker 53>action to secure the funds. The emails state that the

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<v Speaker 53>Police Foundation wants to pass this legislation before June thirtieth

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<v Speaker 53>because they need the City of Atlanta's money to secure

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<v Speaker 53>their construction loan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's expected that as soon as May fifteenth, a member

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<v Speaker 1>of the City Council will introduce legislation to allocate public

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<v Speaker 1>funds to the Atlanta Police Foundation to build COP City,

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<v Speaker 1>and a final vote could happen as soon as June fifth.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that the movement to stop Cop City has

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<v Speaker 1>shown us is that no matter what police do, people

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<v Speaker 1>continue to show up despite what happens, and the movement

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<v Speaker 1>keeps expanding. As the unnamed forest defender told.

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<v Speaker 52>Me, infrastructure wise, this week of Action was the biggest

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<v Speaker 52>infrastructure I've seen doing a week of action. I thought

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<v Speaker 52>that the infrastructure we put together for week one was

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<v Speaker 52>pretty big, but I mean it doesn't even compare. It's

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<v Speaker 52>not the same ballpark as what happened for Week five,

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<v Speaker 52>just from how the medics were set up and how

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<v Speaker 52>food was handled. There was a shuttle bus program, there

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<v Speaker 52>was a welcome table at a church at one point,

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<v Speaker 52>there was like twenty four to seven clinic spaces. There

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<v Speaker 52>was twenty four to seven ride programs, and medics on standby,

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<v Speaker 52>and like all these things that were ready to support everybody,

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<v Speaker 52>Like there was all this infrastructure set up to make

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<v Speaker 52>sure that people were as supported as possible and to

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<v Speaker 52>make it as easy as possible and lower the barrier

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<v Speaker 52>of entry to the movement as much as possible, more

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<v Speaker 52>than there has been in any other Week of action

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<v Speaker 52>so far. I feel like the way that we continue

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<v Speaker 52>that is to take lessons learned from what's happened this

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<v Speaker 52>week from the problems with the infrastructure, the issues that

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<v Speaker 52>it had, expand on it and then fucking do it

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<v Speaker 52>for way longer, Like we could do this for an

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<v Speaker 52>entire summer. I am fully of the belief that the

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<v Speaker 52>infrastructure I saw on display during the fifth week of action,

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<v Speaker 52>we could do that for a summer. I believe in

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<v Speaker 52>the kind of people who put it together, and I

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<v Speaker 52>believe in the people who did it. To do that,

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<v Speaker 52>we just have to kind of look at what went wrong,

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<v Speaker 52>what went right, and fix it. All the things that

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<v Speaker 52>existed in this week of action, as far as they're

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<v Speaker 52>being food rides, medics, and like group supplies, all these

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<v Speaker 52>things existed during weeks of Action one through four.

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<v Speaker 13>It's just grown.

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<v Speaker 52>It's gotten more logistically intense. There are more and more

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<v Speaker 52>people filling those roles. There's more and more stuff coming in.

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<v Speaker 52>Like the amount of supplies that we just got sent

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<v Speaker 52>in or people brought with them from out of state

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<v Speaker 52>has just so vastly expanded since the first week of action.

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<v Speaker 52>It's just gotten more i don't know, like not professional,

4:27:21.000 --> 4:27:24.440
<v Speaker 52>but more polished. It's become a much more polished setup system.

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<v Speaker 52>As time went on from the first camp that we

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<v Speaker 52>had during the first Week of Action to now you know,

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<v Speaker 52>almost two years later. And that's a huge part of

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<v Speaker 52>why I think we've outgrown the Week of Action. We

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<v Speaker 52>have these types of thought processes and logistics to do

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<v Speaker 52>this for a summer or for a month, We just

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<v Speaker 52>need people and resources. We need more people to be willing,

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<v Speaker 52>because I don't want people to get tired.

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<v Speaker 1>Just last month, another Week of Action was called for

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<v Speaker 1>June twenty fourth to July first, directly leading into what's

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<v Speaker 1>being called the Wollawni Summer, with locals in Atlanta calling

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<v Speaker 1>on supporters and forced defenders everywhere to come to Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>for the week and stay for the summer. With Entrenchment

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<v Speaker 1>Creek Park still closed and they're being ongoing efforts to

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<v Speaker 1>have it be reopened. What the week and following summer

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<v Speaker 1>will look like is it still very unknown.

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<v Speaker 52>We always are going to need more people. People are

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<v Speaker 52>our most important resource.

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<v Speaker 10>Always.

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<v Speaker 52>The way that we limit burnout is by having more

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<v Speaker 52>and more people so that the burden falls less and

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<v Speaker 52>less heavy on small groups of people, and so that

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<v Speaker 52>people can take breaks. And that's another problem I have

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<v Speaker 52>with like the Week of Action as a strategy is

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<v Speaker 52>you're just going non fucking stop.

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<v Speaker 13>For a week.

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<v Speaker 52>If you had three months, you're like, ah, I'm going

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<v Speaker 52>to chill for a couple of weeks. I'll be back,

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<v Speaker 52>you know, because I have all this time, and it

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<v Speaker 52>frees up people from out of state to come in,

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<v Speaker 52>have times to work it out in their schedule more.

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<v Speaker 1>There will be more information put out in the coming weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>You can keep up to date by following stop Coop

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<v Speaker 1>City on Instagram, Defend atl Forest on Twitter, or by

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<v Speaker 1>checking out stopcopcitysolidarity dot org. Ideally with a VPM and

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<v Speaker 1>tour slash a Brave browser.

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<v Speaker 52>If you were at the music festival and you're just

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<v Speaker 52>a normal person, you weren't involved with the movement before this,

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<v Speaker 52>and you were at the music festival and you kind

4:29:09.480 --> 4:29:11.440
<v Speaker 52>of saw why we're fighting for this. You saw that

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<v Speaker 52>space and then you saw the type of violence that

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<v Speaker 52>the police were willing to output to do it. Let

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<v Speaker 52>that move you to get involved further. You don't have

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<v Speaker 52>to join an organization, you know, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 52>speak for other people. I'm a hard anarchist. Fuck organizations

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<v Speaker 52>to a large degree, but have an affinity group, get

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<v Speaker 52>your friends together. If you guys want to be helping

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<v Speaker 52>out with the food. People, help out with the food.

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<v Speaker 8>People.

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<v Speaker 52>You want to be medics, go join a medic collective

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<v Speaker 52>like find what everything calls to you and just go

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<v Speaker 52>and do it. Because we need people and there's no

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<v Speaker 52>barrier of entry to join the movement. There's no test

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<v Speaker 52>you have to take. You just have to show up.

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<v Speaker 1>I will end this Week of Action retrospective with a

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<v Speaker 1>promise from a forest defenders. See you on the other side.

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<v Speaker 10>We well Barn.

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<v Speaker 46>We well Burn, we well.

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