1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton show, our number three, 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: the final hour of the week. We appreciate all of 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: you've been hanging out. Encourage you to go subscribe to 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: the podcast Clay Travis buck Sexton. You won't miss a 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: minute there. You can also keep track of the show 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: at Clay and Buck dot com. We head to Washington, 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: DC right now, where there is reportedly about to begin 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: a thirteenth vote to determine who the Speaker of the 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: House is going to be. Speaker Kevin McCarthy. Kevin McCarthy 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: seems to be in line to be speaker. He has 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: gained fourteen more votes in the twelfth round of voting. 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: Among those votes, Anna Paulina Luna, a newly erect elected 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: congress person from the state of Florida, Thank you for 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: joining us. You flipped your vote. What happened to encourage 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: you that Kevin McCarthy was the right choice? And thanks 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: for joining us. Yes, of course, thanks for having me 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: back on. And to be clear, I'm actually still here 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: talking to you guys from the cloakroom on the floor. 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: But my vote hinges on basically making these negotiations in 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: good faith. So right now, there is a framework for 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: negotiation that changes the very foundation in which Congress functions, 22 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: and this negotiation that we're working on will essentially outlive 23 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: every single person in this legislative body. And when I 24 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: came here and on the campaign trail, I told thousands 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: of people I heard their concerns, and I understand how 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: the system is fundamentally broken. There's way too much power 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: consolidated into the hands of the speaker. And so one 28 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: of my first terms for my vote would be bringing 29 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: back the Jeffersonian motion to vacate the chair, which allows 30 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: any one member at any time or any place to 31 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: bring a motion to the floor to the remove of 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: the speaker. That's huge. That's an accountability that Nancy Pelosi 33 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: removed from Congress when she decided that she essentially wanted 34 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: to consolidate the very dangerous power into her position as speaker. 35 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: That is an offer that is on the table from 36 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy. But there are many more changes. I can't 37 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: get into the details of those changes because again, my 38 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: vote hinges on making these negotiations in good faith. And 39 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: so what you are going to see is something that 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: the American people deserve to see. We owe them this 41 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: discussion and this dialogue, and you're seeing that play out 42 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: in real time. It is historic as this is I 43 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: think one of the first times in a hundred years 44 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: if this has happened. But please understand that we would 45 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: not be shifting unless we really did feel that this 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: was monumental. And I do advise everyone today tonight actually 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: to watch Tucker Carlson as Representative Thomas matthew is going 48 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: to be going entoree show talking about what we are 49 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: in negotiations with. So we are going to continue to 50 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: work on this. Again, nothing is going to change. I 51 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: do believe that we are still going to be going 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: back onto the floor. But this is monumental and I 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: hope that the American people trust that we are actually 54 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: fighting to change this institute and the way that it 55 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: functions and to empower the American people of a big government. Hey, 56 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: and it's Buck, and appreciate you. You're joining us and 57 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: we've been meaning to get you on during this whole 58 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: h I've been called a ruckist, but it's fine. You know, 59 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: this is democracy. It's playing out. However, people learn to 60 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: describe the back and forth over the speaker's the speaker's chair. 61 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: I think it's important that this gets done the right way, 62 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: and I like the transparency. I like people are focused 63 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: in on it. You said, you can't tell us what's 64 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: on the table, But what about the things that have 65 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: already been reported on, for example, things like how many 66 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 1: how many seats people get on different committees? Things like that? 67 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean, can you just can you give us a 68 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: little more of a sense? I mean, you've made some 69 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: compelling broad points about how this will change the institution. 70 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: We had already seen reporting about a motion to vacate 71 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: the chair from one individual. Is there anything else though? 72 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: You can just tell us that is that issue here? 73 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: Because it's sounding more like this is about Congress and 74 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: less about Kevin McCarthy. Is that fair? I would have 75 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: to say, yes, this is about restoring the hands into 76 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: the power of the representatives and really ensuring that the 77 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: legislative body represents all ideologies, not just a mainstream I guess, 78 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to say mainstream, but it doesn't just 79 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: represent maybe a less conservative voice. So one of the 80 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: biggest I guess shucks that I had when I got 81 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: to Washington is I found that the Rules Committee actually 82 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: controls all the legislation that hits the floor, and so 83 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: you can't just bring a bill to the floor and 84 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: then call for a vote. And that's incredibly important because 85 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: if you have a bill that you think might be 86 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: great on behalf of the American people, and those people 87 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: on that committee don't agree with it, it doesn't go 88 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: to the floor. And so we've asked to diversify the conference. 89 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: I can tell you that I haven't asked for anything 90 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: that I actually have been focusing more or less on 91 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: how do we decentralize power so that we avoid what's 92 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: happening in how versus what's happening in the Senate with McConnell. Anna, 93 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: there's been reports that President Trump has reached out to 94 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: lobby on behalf of Kevin McCarthy. Has he reached out 95 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: to you, do you know if he has called any 96 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: of the other holdouts to try to make the case 97 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: that McCarthy makes the most sense. You know? I think 98 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: President Trump he respects our opinions individually, and he trusts 99 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: us to make the correct decisions. And remember, there are 100 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: people who represent different districts that their people don't want 101 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: them to vote for McCarthy, and those people are not rhinos, 102 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: are not not patriots, And I think that it's important 103 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: to note that the media has really tried to use 104 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: this to divide the American people, to divide the House 105 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: of Representatives. But I want everyone listening to this to 106 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: understand this entire time, and really since November, we have 107 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: been in discussions the entire time. Unfortunately, there was a 108 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: little bit of a communications breakdown, but that has been 109 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: re established. This is in good faith and this will 110 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: move forward, and that's where we really need to be. 111 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: I can also tell you that I think President Trump 112 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: want wants what's best, what's best for the American people, 113 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: and you're seeing that play out in real time, and 114 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: so what you will see is transformative change. I have 115 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: nothing but faith in this, and we have to let 116 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: the process work out. And you know what, this is 117 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: how Congress is supposed to function. I think it's funny 118 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: when people think, you know, oh my gosh, Congress is 119 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: up there and they're on c SPAN. You know, they're 120 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: having discussions. That's what we're supposed to do. And so 121 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: I'm really glad because you know, for two years with COVID, 122 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: this didn't happen. But this also hasn't happened in a 123 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: hundred years. So we need to dialogue. The American people 124 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: deserve it, and you know, the leadership needs to be 125 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: held accountable, especially because of how things have gone over 126 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: the last few decades. We're speaking a Congresswoman Anna Paulina 127 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: Luna from the state of Florida, and Anna, assuming the 128 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: speakers situations, that the Speaker of the House is chosen 129 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: here in short order, which looks likely to be the 130 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: case based on the trend and the voting. Top of 131 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: the agenda this year, Clint, I've been talking about how 132 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: we don't have the Senate, we don't have the presidency, obviously, 133 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: but there are some things that the Republican House can do. 134 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: And given the principles you're laying out there and the 135 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: agenda that you would like to see, what should what 136 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: should be done, what can be done? I can tell 137 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: you that what I want to see and what this 138 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: can bring to the table is something that it doesn't 139 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: matter who the speaker is, because it will allow the 140 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: body to function in a different way that has been 141 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: done before. My goals right now for you know, what 142 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: we need to do is we need to look into 143 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: what's really happening with the weaponization of the federal government 144 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: against the American people. What is going on with the 145 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: corruption that has existed in this House for far too 146 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: long to where you know, you have agencies like the 147 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: SBI being used against the American people. I mean, why 148 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: is it that there is a double standard that exist 149 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: with republic or Republicans and Democrats where you have Democrats 150 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: or people in office for example of a hundred Biden laptop. 151 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: I mean, all of these things are questions the American 152 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: people deserved. But I also understand that right now Senate 153 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: is controlled by Democrats, that the White House is controlled 154 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: by Democrats. And so right now in this Congress, what 155 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: we will have a chance and an opportunity to do 156 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: is to show the American people what's really happening, to 157 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: get them answers, but also to set the floor, to 158 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: set the stage for twenty twenty four. And that is 159 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: exactly what we're doing right now, because in twenty twenty four, 160 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: we do need to take back the White House. And 161 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: I want to remind everyone listening that when we had 162 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: the House, the Senate, and the Executive branch, that there 163 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: were still things that President Trump was not able to 164 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: get done, and it was because Congress was working against 165 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: him a Republican Congress, and with this being in place, 166 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: I just I don't think that that will be the 167 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: case anymore, because we will absolutely have an equal say 168 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: and everything coming to the floor. Anna, do you think 169 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: that we'll have a speaker today or if not today, 170 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: when do you think this thing may be resolved. I 171 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: can't put a timeline on it, but what I can 172 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: tell you is that again, these negotiations are in good 173 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: faith and in talks, and as this transpires, and as 174 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: this goes through, ultimately what we need to do is 175 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: we need to make sure that we are so we 176 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: are just keeping the American people as informed as we can. 177 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: And so I don't want to put a timeline on it, 178 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: but what I will say is that you know, we 179 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: can operate in good faith, but if what we have 180 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: on the table, if it's not followed through with, then 181 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: again I reserve the right to change my vote because 182 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm not just voting for a person. I'm voting to 183 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: actually change the institution. And that's what matters to me. 184 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: It's not personal, but this is very serious and I 185 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: do believe and as you'll hear, I think tonight from 186 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 1: Representative Matthew on Tucker Carlson. This is probably the transformative 187 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: change that maybe only comes once, you know, in our time, 188 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: and I think that this will outlast again if we 189 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: continue with these negotiations. Any member of Congress indus here today, Anna, Anna, 190 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: Paulina Luna, Congress, thanks so much for being with us. 191 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: Appreciate talking to you as always. Thank you, sy there 192 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: you good Clay to be making some sweeping, big proclamations 193 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: about how things could go here. I'm hoping that it 194 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: is as great as it could be. I think I 195 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: will be surprised if we're back on Monday and the 196 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: official speakerdom is not in the gavel, is not in 197 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: the hands of Kevin McCarthy. Based on the trajectory right 198 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: now and where they need to go, I'm very curious 199 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: to see what these the full scope of what the 200 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: negotiations are. That she was just mentioning gun owners. You 201 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: know how expensive ammos these days. 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Making sense in 222 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: an insane world. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, Welcome back 223 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: to Clay and Buck. We want to know what you 224 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: think about how this is all going down on Congress 225 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: eight hundred two A two two A A two. We'll 226 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: get some of your calls here in a few moments. 227 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: We also always like to share with you good news 228 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: whenever we can, and it's the latest on NFL player 229 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: um Damar Hamlin is that he's doing pretty He's doing 230 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: pretty well. I mean he's gonna be looks like he's 231 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: gonna be okay, which is the first time, first day, 232 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: I think since the incident, we've really been able to 233 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: say that based on what his doctors have been telling 234 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: the public. And here's a doctor at a press conference 235 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: when asked, um, well, when asked about the game, this 236 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: is what he says, play three phrase one of our partners, 237 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: you know. When when he asked, did we win? The 238 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: answer is yes, you know, DeMar, you won. You've won 239 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: the game of life. So that's in response to that 240 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: amazing moment that Clay relayed yesterday where Damar Hamlin, as 241 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: soon as he came to and was able to speak, asked, 242 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: who won the game? Yeah, and his doctor responded to him, 243 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: will you won? Because you're alive and you're gonna be fine. 244 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: So look, this is a the happy outcome that people 245 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: all across the country were hoping for and praying for, 246 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,359 Speaker 1: and we're there. And so whenever we get an opportunity 247 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: to share the happy share happy news. We take that 248 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: and we relished that moment we all can have together. Also, 249 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: I think everybody who's ever played in a big game, 250 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: if you had an injury during the big game and 251 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: you had to be in a hospital, I think most 252 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: people who really care, that would be one of their 253 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: first questions, right is did we win the game? I'm 254 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: sure he's somewhat surprised that the game didn't continue because 255 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: you know, last he knew he got injured, and he 256 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: doesn't know any of the circumstances that have surrounded it. 257 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: So that would be I think the first question that 258 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people would ask. And now, Buck, now 259 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: that we know he's going to be okay, I think 260 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: now is when we do the deep dive to figure 261 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: out what happened to him? Right, Because I'll tell you 262 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: there are a lot of players in NFL locker rooms 263 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: asking did the COVID shot have anything to do with 264 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: this hard condition? Because there have been so many discussions 265 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: about young people and myocarditis and what could happen. So 266 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: maybe it's this uh, maybe it's this thing where every 267 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: now and then, like fifteen or twenty times a year, 268 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: young kids get hit by a baseball pitch right in 269 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: their heart, or we've seen it happen on the hockey 270 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: ice war. I think it's even less common than that. 271 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: I think it's it's I mean, it's incredibly rare. It's 272 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: it's insanely rare. And there's something about you get hit 273 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: in your heart at the exact moment millisecond where your 274 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: heart is undertaking a activity, and it can cause an 275 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: arrhythmia that leads to a heart a I think I've 276 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: got that right medically. If that is the cause here, Okay, 277 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: it's never happened on the football field to my knowledge, 278 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: he almost died from it. How did it occur? Is 279 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: there anything that can be done to protect going forward? 280 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: Or have doctors now determined? Hey, the reason why this 281 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: happened is because, you know, for people who are sports fans, 282 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: every now and then somebody collapses who's an athlete, because 283 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: athletes tend to have larger hearts, and that sometimes can 284 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: lead to different heart related conditions. Was there something there? 285 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: In other words, when there is a serious medical incident, 286 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: one of the most important things is figuring out why 287 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: it happened and trying to keep it from happening again. 288 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: Now that we know he's going to be okay. I'm 289 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: curious as the story shifts there. Instead, the story is 290 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: shifting to football's too dangerous to play. Right the View 291 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: has made that argument. The Washington Post has made that 292 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: argument MSNBC. I saw on the front page of a 293 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal yesterday, Buck there is an article about 294 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: how how to fans deal with the fact that football 295 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: is so dangerous. That's the pivot that's already happened in 296 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: left wing media is football's not safe to play because 297 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: of what happened to Damar Hamling. So I do recall 298 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: I had a friend in college who I'm just saying, 299 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: if we're talking about this as a as a as 300 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: a product, because that's what it's an entertainment product. That's 301 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: what football is. Let's say you order to dramatically reduce, 302 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: Let's say we turn the NFL into a flag football league. 303 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: Nobody would watch. Nobody would watch. I remember going to 304 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: a female ice hockey game when I was in college, 305 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: and I'm not an ice hockey guy. It's just not 306 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: my not my thing on my sport. But I do 307 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, the guys are going around real fast, and 308 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: people get slammed into the boards, and there's a lot 309 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: of action. I mean, I respected, there's a lot of 310 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: action ice hockey with ladies playing. There's no contact. You 311 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: can't check each other, you can't. Oh yeah, but least 312 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: this was released in college. So you just get a 313 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: bunch of LA's on all the pads, skating around in 314 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: the ice, slapping a puck to each other and not 315 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: exactly moving that quickly to get to it. And there's 316 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: no contact. Let me tell you there were four people 317 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: in the stands Clay Okay, I was one of them. Yeah, 318 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: so well, the violence is a big part of why 319 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: people like football, people like the UFC and boxing. Like, 320 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: if you said there's no knockouts in boxing, ninety percent 321 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: of people who watch boxing would stop watching boxing, right, 322 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: And if you said in the UFC, hey, there's not 323 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: going to be any submission holds allowed anymore, ninety percent 324 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: of people who watch the UFC would stop watching or 325 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: knockout opportunities in the UFC as well. Yeah, I mean, 326 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that watching women's ice hockey, I mean 327 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: the w NBA compared to women's ice hockey is like 328 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: watching the first scene of Gladiator when they're fighting, you know, 329 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: it's like, it's like super exciting and comparison super exciting. 330 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: And I don't know where this is going except that 331 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: we've got to start using the phrase all the time. 332 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: Buck toxic, Right, let's just make it a thing when 333 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: you see women like feminism. 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Enter the promo code 348 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck You can also call eight hundred seven 349 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: nine two thirty two sixty nine buck Sexton on the 350 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: front lines of Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton 351 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: Show thirteen to vote for Speaker currently underway, and two 352 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: more of the holdouts have now flipped to McCarthy. So 353 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: I believe as we are rolling through right now, we 354 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: are down to five five. Maybe it's still six again 355 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: as as we track, and the number that he actually 356 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: needs is influx a bit because some Republicans are right 357 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: now out of the chambers and they're talking about getting back. 358 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: He Typically you would need two hundred and eighteen out 359 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: of four hundred and thirty five, one more than than 360 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: the majority would require. But with some republic Pins out, 361 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: maybe two seventeen is in play for him to be speaker, 362 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: maybe two sixteen, depending on how exactly the math works out. 363 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: So again, for those of you out there that have 364 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: been keeping track watching this with bated breath, Kevin McCarthy 365 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: is an overwhelming favorite to become the speaker. Fifteen Republicans 366 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: so far have changed their votes for McCarthy, and we 367 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: will see exactly who can be in the chamber and 368 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: who cannot. They're trying to close it out tonight. Buck. 369 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: I saw this and I thought it was interesting new 370 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: pole coming out. Do you have a favorable or unfavorable 371 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: opinion of these Republican leaders? These are Republican voters. Ron 372 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: de Santis plus eighty two eighty eight favorable, six percent negative, 373 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: Greg Abbott seventy two favorable, eight negative, net sixty four 374 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: Trump seventy two fifteen. Trump's favorability ratings in the Republican 375 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: Party have been among the most important part of his appeal. 376 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: I think he was up around ninety six ninety seven 377 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: percent at one point. His current favorability just seventy two. 378 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: You buy that Trump has taken a hit in the 379 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: Republican Party of late, or do you think this poll 380 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: is out of whack? Like you and I both know 381 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: that there are people who are frustrated with Trump who 382 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: are Trump voters. I'm not talking about never trumpers. I'm 383 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: not talking about people that you know make a living 384 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: or even support those who make a living going on 385 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: CNN pretending to be Republicans when all they do is 386 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: the bidding of Democrats. You and I both know a 387 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: lot of people who are two time Trump voters who 388 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: are frustrated at this point with what they've recently in 389 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: particular scene. But that doesn't mean and this is the 390 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: thing about Trump as a candidate and as a political force, 391 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: you just don't know. So has as he dropped a 392 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: little bit right now? I could see that, you know, 393 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: or are there some other candidates that people are thinking 394 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: about on the Republican side more seriously than they have 395 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: in the past. I would I would think so the 396 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: data is certainly, all the polling data all supports that. 397 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: But it's January of twenty twenty three. You know, there's 398 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: a lot of time between now and when this stuff 399 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: really starts to matter. I mean, it's basically a little 400 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: over a year right before people are going to start 401 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: casting ballots in the primary. And so the thing about 402 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: Trump is you just never know. And I think that 403 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: right now, you know that this is so early in 404 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: the process that it's hard to take anything from this 405 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: other than we're in like the first inning of a 406 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: nine inning of a nine inning game. Do you think 407 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: we had Julie Kelly on earlier and it's the two 408 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: year anniversary of January sixth, then I would say the 409 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: one thing that I think is a massive benefit of 410 00:22:54,320 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: Republicans dragging out their speaker vote is it's really kind 411 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: of killing the idea that you spend much time talking 412 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: about January six because the usual suspects are all tracking 413 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: Republican votes. And I actually think it would be kind 414 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: of funny if they came out and said, yeah, you know, 415 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: we just decided to drag out the speaker votes so 416 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: Democrats couldn't celebrate January sixth, like somebody can go on 417 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: television and say that it's not true. I don't think, 418 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: but it does kind of undercut their narrative. Julie Kelly 419 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: has been aggressive in the fact that she believes Trump 420 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: is going to get indicted. I think that they are 421 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: going to indict Trump still in twenty three. Do you 422 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: think that's going to happen? I mean, you did that 423 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden was going to be indicted last year, and 424 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: as we all know, Hunter Biden has not been indicted. 425 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: I still think they're both going to get indicted this year. 426 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: I take my stake medium rare um. I think that 427 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: the Trump indictment call it's so funny because not funny, haha, 428 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: but's sort of odd because the likely hood of Trump 429 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: being indicted really turns upon. I think the political calculation 430 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: around it more so than the legal one. If this 431 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: is any time you're talking about indicting a former president, 432 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of politics involved in that decision. 433 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: But when you have a likely presidential contender again and 434 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: former president obviously uncharted territory, don't know, I have no 435 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: real historical precedent for this, have nothing even close to 436 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: her historical precedent for this, And so I think it'll 437 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: be it'll determine. It'll be determined by what the Democrats 438 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 1: believe is in their best political interests more so than 439 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: anything else. And I do also think that the theory 440 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: that the Look, I believe you and I've agreed on 441 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: this the whole time. It's not a change. I think 442 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: Democrats want to run against Trump. Yes, Now, for anyone 443 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: who gets annoyed hearing that or that frustrates them, that 444 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're right. It doesn't mean Trump can't win it. 445 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: That's right, that's exactly, thank you. It's exactly what I 446 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: was gonna say. They that they were going to kick 447 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: his button twenty sixteen. So I'm not saying that they're right. 448 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm merely saying and I do know Democrats, and I 449 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: do talk to them. They want Trump as a candidate 450 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: against Biden because that nullifies in their minds the Biden 451 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: is too obviously too old and every because you know, 452 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: Trump's kind of too old too. It'll be seventy eight 453 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: verses eighty two. I believe if Trump and Biden ran 454 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: against each other in twenty twenty four, their respective ages 455 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: seventy eight eighty two. So it's hard to be like 456 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: eighty two is too old, but seventy eight's perfect. But 457 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: you know, the the to the point about the rallying 458 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: effect you made with Julie Kelly. Let's say that they 459 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: do do the indictment against Trump, I don't know, next summer, 460 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: something like yeah, right, you know, right before right before 461 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: the you know, the the end of summer. They were 462 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: to indict Trump, there could be a rallying effect and 463 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: they might think to themselves, oh, well, great, now we 464 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: get to run against Trump. What if that rallying effect 465 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: is so powerful because of people's outrage. What's so obviously 466 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: a partisan game the Democrats are playing that all of 467 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: a sudden, Trump is a more formidable candidate than they 468 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: faced since twenty sixteen. You know, so they can't know 469 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: exactly how this plays out either, which makes me think 470 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: that you know they're they're gonna have to take a 471 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: weight and see approach to this. I want to say 472 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: they it's Merrick Garland, But does anybody believe that Merrick 473 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: Garland wouldn't talk to now, I know they have this 474 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: special counsel, right, Jack Smith. So Jack Smith is the one, 475 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: but Jack Smith has to It's kind of this game 476 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: everybody plays. Jack Smith has to refer the charges to 477 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland is the way this end. So it ends 478 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: up being a Merrick Garland decision. And I don't care 479 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: what anybody says. Merrick Garland's gonna talk to Joe Biden 480 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: about it. That's just reality. And the one little thing 481 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: that I would put in your back, back of your 482 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: mind out there is I think they want Trump to 483 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: be indicted because I think they believe that makes Trump 484 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: more likely to be the nominee. I understand there are 485 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: some of you out there to say, oh, they want 486 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: to indict Trump so he's not selected. No, No, I 487 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: think they want to run against Trump. What if Biden 488 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: pardoned Trump? Oh, I thought Barrett Garland indicts him and 489 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: then Joe Biden comes out. I think it could be 490 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: a genius political move because then he basically like, I'm 491 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: not afraid of you, Like, if you want to be 492 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: the nominee, you be the nominee for the better angels 493 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: of America. I am pardoning Donald Trump and I want 494 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: to run against him. I think he might smoke Trump. 495 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: If he did that, well, then then it turned I 496 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: guess he would do that before they would actually put 497 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: him to trial. So if the charges come out, he 498 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: could he could pardon him before, but then you would 499 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: still have the entire media calling Trump the the convicted felon. 500 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like, I mean, yeah, well, 501 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: I guess I'm sorry, not not the convicted felon, but 502 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: they would would call him. Yeah. I think it would 503 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: be a brilliant political stroke for Biden that might sweep 504 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: him into the elections. See. I always thinking with Democrats, 505 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: it's ruthless but not brilliant. That's how I get it done. 506 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: A lot of the time, I get it brilliant and 507 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: look not so much for that. I think what could 508 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: happen is Democrats Biden's gonna have to announce buck in 509 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: like February or March at the latest. I think he's 510 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: gonna run. That's one that I think you were right. 511 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: I thought that he would get beat badly in the 512 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: mid terms. I think one of the benefits of the 513 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: midterm is it made it more likely Biden's gonna run. 514 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: I think Biden's a week candidate. So if Biden runs, 515 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: and if he announces, I think that DeSantis is gonna 516 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: wait till the very last moment to get in this race. 517 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: So Democrats are basically buckling in Joe Biden as an nominee. 518 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: If you ended up with eighty two year old Joe 519 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: Biden running against like forty five year old run De Santis, 520 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: that has to be the largest age gap we've ever 521 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: seen in the history of presidential elections. I think DeSantis 522 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: would smoke him. I don't think it would be remotely close. 523 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: DeSantis has a lot of flaws, as it can in it. 524 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's perfect. Every candidate has flaws, but 525 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: I think that age difference would be impossible to overcome, 526 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: whereas I think Biden against Trump, to your point, I 527 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: think Biden being eighty two doesn't matter, So I think 528 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: Democrats have to be careful that they don't lock themselves 529 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 1: in with a candidate that they're planning on running against 530 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: Trump and then Republicans shift the script and change their nominee. 531 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: I also think the window is closing for a Biden replacement, 532 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: uh in the nominee, you know, for the Democrats to 533 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: be the nominee. Yeah, other than Kamala. I think you're 534 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: you're getting closer and closer to point here where I 535 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: still think it is going to be Biden. As we 536 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: all know, and I've said that for a long time now, 537 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: could be wrong, but it's either going to be Biden 538 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: or Kamala. I don't I don't see this other other 539 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: other options we thought about. With each passing month, now 540 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: I think it just becomes more of an inevitability that 541 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: it has to be one of the one of the two. 542 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: And I still think Biden ends up being the guy 543 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: who does it, so that it's gonna be the story 544 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: of twenty three. That's gonna be the big story of 545 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: twenty three. So that's where we're going. We come back 546 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: our good buddy, Prince Harry. I know you love the Royals. 547 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: He said in his book that he was a bigot 548 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: until he started to date Megan Markle. That's real. It's 549 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: a real story. That's a real quote. 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You don't know what 569 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: you don't know, right, but you should. On the Sunday 570 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, we are closing up 571 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: shop here for the day on Clay n Buck, and 572 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: we are going to miss all of you over the weekend. 573 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: I don't have anything particularly exciting plan to tell everyone about. 574 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: I will at some point probably make myself a cup 575 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: of tea, hang out with Kerry, and perhaps watch The Crown, 576 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: which I will say is a very well made show 577 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: for what it is a little it's good if you 578 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: want to fall asleep too, which is great. It's very like, 579 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: very civilized, you know, and so you could just pass 580 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: out there watching it. But Clay, you wanted to bring 581 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: something up. You want to bring something to our attention 582 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: here about what Harry says changed about him as a 583 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: result of dating Megan. You know, they found each other 584 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I didn't know that. I mean he and 585 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: then had a mutual friend this. What's up? Did she 586 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: slide into his dms? Like does he have open DM? 587 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: So he saw her? He saw her in a Now 588 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: why do I know this? Damn it? Because I might 589 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: have seen a little bit of the beginning of the 590 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: Netflix documentary on this, but I was forced to watch 591 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: it I had I didn't even know this choice. Yeah, 592 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: he saw her in a in an Instagram post and asked, 593 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: I think the mutual friend if she was single, and 594 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, kind of took it off from there. Okay, 595 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: So he says he was a little bit or he 596 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: was a bigot basically until he started dating Megan Markle. So, 597 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: Megan Markle is we played the Andrew Tate U take 598 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: Back in the Day a couple of weeks ago, whatever 599 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: it was, where he points out something that I think 600 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: is really quite clear. Most people would have no idea 601 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: Megan Markle was black unless she made a big deal 602 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: about the fact that she was black. In other words, 603 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: she's very light skinned. She could be any number of 604 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: different racial backgrounds. So my thought on this in general 605 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: is and maybe I live under like a strange universe. 606 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, Buck, I'm curious what your experience would 607 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: be with the guys that you know, I don't know 608 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: in this day and age people around our age now. 609 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: Of course, I represent Generation X, the generation that is 610 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: saving America, and you represent the millennials, the generation that 611 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: is destroying America, So that is worth factoring in here. 612 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't know a single guy. I mean this honestly. 613 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: I don't know one single guy that I am friends 614 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: with or that I've even been acquaintances with, that would 615 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: refuse to date an incredibly attractive girl because of her 616 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: racial background. In other words, smoking hot Asian, smoking hot 617 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: white girl, smoking hot Hispanic, smoking hot black mixture. They're in, 618 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: whatever it might be. I think almost every man in 619 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: America today sees attractiveness before they see race. Am I crazy? 620 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: Like Megan Markel is good looking. I don't think, oh, 621 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: she's good looking and she might be of whatever background. 622 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: Prince uh, Prince Williams girl Kate good looking? Right, there 623 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: are a lot of good looking women out there. I 624 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: see attractiveness before I see race. Am I crazy? Or 625 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: you think that's every normal guy? Right? Guy? So the 626 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: idea that he would say he's a bigot and that 627 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: she's somehow cured that I just like, if you need something, 628 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: he wants always, he wants social social justice points. He's 629 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: always trying to find some way to con the fly. 630 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: But but the other side of it two is how 631 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: many guys have you come across? This is this is 632 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: something we don't talk about very much. Who we're great guys. 633 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: Oh then they got mixed up with a with a 634 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: with a lady, with a with a young woman, and 635 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're no fun anymore. Yep, they 636 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: are not entertaining to be around, they're not like themselves. 637 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: And then you get into the thing of is there 638 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: a way you can save them from the destruction of 639 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: this female accomplice who was with them all the time. 640 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: I've I've known plenty of guys I've I've lost friends 641 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: because they're safe. Another made them so lame. I know 642 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: the feeling, and they're probably I don't know any but 643 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: there probably are a lot of girls that also. They 644 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: get in a relationship and suddenly girls out there that 645 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: used to be friends with them are like, you're awful now, 646 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: like I hate your boyfriend or your husband. But I 647 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: think the number one test to me is an easy test. 648 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: If you would not if you're a guy and you're 649 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: listening to us right now, and you would not date 650 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: somebody of a different race, no matter how attractive they are. 651 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: I think that's almost a pretty easy test for racism, 652 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: right because I think almost every guy out there, most 653 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 1: people see attractiveness before they see race, right, And so 654 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: Megan Markel to me, the idea that Prince Harry would say, oh, 655 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: I was a bigot before I dated Prince, before I 656 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: dated Meg and Markle. I think it's ludicrous. He might 657 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: have convinced himself of that. But to your point earlier 658 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: in the show, this is a guy who was flying 659 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: around and killing Taliban and seemed to be really a 660 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: likable dude, and he's just he's ruined this guy. Yeah, yeah, 661 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: this is this is the situation. He's given up everything 662 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: for her and in the process gotten worse, it seems 663 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: in every aspect of it. Didn't Yoko Ono break up 664 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: the Beatles? That's the story. I mean, this is kind 665 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: of like the Yoko Ono situation, except it's the destruction 666 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: and the breakup of the British royal family. So in 667 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: that sense, maybe she's doing everybody a service because the 668 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: British royal family is absurd and Americans in particular shouldn't 669 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: care about it. I also saw again more revelations Caton 670 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: William were big fans of suits before he dated Meghan Markel. 671 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 1: I don't know that i'd buy that either. What's a 672 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: Lie Sleet, Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines 673 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: of truth.