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Speaker 2: We bring in now, Carol Markowitz of the Carol Markowitz podcast,

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Speaker 2: and Carol, I actually want to start with a question

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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 3: I shared it yesterday.

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Speaker 2: You write at the New York Post, but you also

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Speaker 2: have a substack, and you wrote kind of a long

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Speaker 2: form rumination about the conversations that Jews in America are

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Speaker 2: having in the wake of October seventh, and this has

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Speaker 2: been something that we've continued to talk about, the political

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Speaker 2: realignment to the extent that it has occurred in the

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Speaker 2: country among Jewish voters. What how would you assess the

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Speaker 2: mind of Jewish voters now? I read on the Sunday

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Speaker 2: New York Times had a huge article about the future

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Speaker 2: of Jews may not be traditionally with the Democrat Party

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Speaker 2: anymore because it's the kind of the theme of the

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Speaker 2: article was, it's a time for choosing. You can't necessarily

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Speaker 2: be a liberal and a Jewish supporter of liberalism, as

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Speaker 2: might well have been connected in the past, given the

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Speaker 2: amount of Democrats supporting Palestinians.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, hi, guys, thank you so much for having

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Speaker 4: me on. You know, I have been hoping that Jews

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Speaker 4: would move rightward for a long time. Because history didn't

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Speaker 4: begin on October seventh. Anti Semitism in America. It didn't

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Speaker 4: begin on October seventh. And what I've seen over the

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Speaker 4: last decade is it's all coming from the left. Yes.

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Speaker 4: Does the right have a couple of you know, frog

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Speaker 4: avatars on Twitter who say ridiculous things and target Jews,

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Speaker 4: of course, but they're all anonymous and really small accounts,

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Speaker 4: and they do it because they get a rise out

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Speaker 4: of people. It isn't people in Congress like the Democrats

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Speaker 4: have who are targeting Jews. So I have hoped for

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Speaker 4: a long time that the shift would happen. I think

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Speaker 4: it is happening, and I've seen it over the last

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Speaker 4: you know, two three four years happening. I think that

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Speaker 4: Jews went more than ever for Governor Ron DeSantis in

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Speaker 4: Florida the last time he ran for governor a year

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Speaker 4: than they had voted in the past. We're in like

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Speaker 4: you look at the numbers of the last mitt from elections,

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Speaker 4: I think it was the Jewish vote on Long Island

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Speaker 4: the times they are a changing, maybe not as fast

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Speaker 4: as I would like personally, but I'm seeing it anecdotally

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Speaker 4: all around. I'm seeing Democrats, you know, Jews who always

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Speaker 4: voted Democrat, really taking a good look at what that

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Speaker 4: I would hope that they would rethink a lot of

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Speaker 4: their political philosophy, like their support of things like DEI

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Speaker 4: should be the end here, but you know, it's hard

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Speaker 4: to get people to really rethink everything, and I hope

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Speaker 4: this is the first step right now.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Carol, appreciate you being with us. I wanted to

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Speaker 6: ask you about the situation in New York. It's really

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Speaker 6: two things coming together. One is you have Daniel Penny

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Speaker 6: just for review for everyone. He is the marine who

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Speaker 6: subsequently two being put in the choke hold. But that's happening.

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Speaker 6: But also women are randomly being punched on the streets

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Speaker 6: of New York City. There's been some press about this

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Speaker 6: the city council said, why aren't men doing something about this?

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Speaker 6: And you might have seen the tweets all saying because

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yes, that's really it. Council Member Amanda Parius,

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Speaker 4: w's the majority Democrat council member on the New York

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Speaker 4: City Council, she said, where are the men calling this out? Well,

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Speaker 4: there were men calling this out, and there were men

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Speaker 4: who would be willing to step in between a woman

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Speaker 4: and a man trying punch. But after Daniel Penny got arrested,

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Speaker 4: I've heard from so many New Yorkers I'm not getting involved.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy. I'm not getting involved. I'm not risking my

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Speaker 4: life to protect other people on the subway. And the

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Speaker 4: strangers stepping in. That was what made New York amazing.

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Speaker 4: I think after nine to eleven, everybody always wanted to

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Speaker 4: were willing to risk their own lives to help a

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Speaker 4: and you see him be charged. Why do it? Why

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Speaker 4: why would anybody do it? And I have to tell

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Speaker 4: you that I feel like a genius every day from

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Speaker 4: moving to Florida. New York is just cannot dig itself

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Speaker 4: out of this pandemic era slump that it's in. They

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Speaker 4: can't do the most rational same things. I feel so

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Speaker 4: sorry for the people in New York who are trying

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Speaker 4: to vote themselves to sanity, who do try to make

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Speaker 4: their city a better place because their face with the

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Speaker 4: Amanda Phariuses of the world, who do nothing to make

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Speaker 4: the city better and then complain about men not stepping.

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Speaker 2: In Carol, what do you think We talked about it

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Speaker 2: a little bit earlier in this hour, but Ron DeSantis

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Speaker 2: basically spiking the football on disney front page by the

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Speaker 2: Journal today as they're doing my pregame reading what's the

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Speaker 2: reaction you're down in Florida. Now you heard all the

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Speaker 2: people out there who said, oh, Disney's gonna win this.

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Speaker 2: Desantas has no leg to stand on, and then Disney

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Speaker 2: basically waves the white flag.

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Speaker 3: Is this over between DeSantis and Disney?

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Speaker 2: Is Disney trying to avoid the cultural battles or do

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Speaker 2: you think this is just a battle one for now,

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Speaker 2: but the war wages on.

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Speaker 4: No, I think that this is the end. I think

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Speaker 4: that in the settlement, Disney, you know, agreed to dismiss

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Speaker 4: multiple lawsuits that they had, And I really do think

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Speaker 4: that this is I mean, I at least I should

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Speaker 4: hope so to me, I would really hope that this

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Speaker 4: is the beginning of sanity of Disney coming back to sanity.

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Speaker 4: Nobody wants to hate Disney, no, no, you know, I

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Speaker 4: grew up with Disney. All of us did, and we

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Speaker 4: all want to take our kids to Disney World, and

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Speaker 4: we want to do things like that. But Disney has

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Speaker 4: been sort of the enemy of families for the last

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Speaker 4: few years. And I hope that this ending, this ending

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Speaker 4: of the battle with Governor DeSantis, and this ending of

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Speaker 4: trying to trying to have their own, you know, really

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Speaker 4: creak improvement district. I really do hope that the company

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Speaker 4: realizes that they've made some serious errors and they reverse

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Speaker 4: themselves and they go back to the vision that Walt

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Speaker 4: Disney had a family friendly entertainment, not indoctrination, you know,

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Speaker 4: really wholesome things that are you can put the kids

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Speaker 4: on for the kids and just know that they're not

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Speaker 4: going to be indoctrinated by some crazy leftism. I hope

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Speaker 4: that this is the beginning of the road back for Disney.

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Speaker 4: I really do.

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Speaker 6: For Speaking of Carol Markwitz of the Carroll Markowitz Show,

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Speaker 6: you can listen to it on the Client Buck podcast network,

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Speaker 6: look at Clay and Buck. Subscribe Carol mark which show

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Speaker 6: will be right there. And Carol, I want you to

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Speaker 6: weigh in on something that got really I was surprised.

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Speaker 5: Yesterday got a little bit heat. It got a little

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Speaker 6: People who are commenting that Travis Kelcey has a dad

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Speaker 6: boss and and and also I would say a lot

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Speaker 6: of people very critical of Taylor Swift in a bathing suit.

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Speaker 6: Clay was pointed out to me by Carrie. They invited

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Speaker 6: the photographers to take photos of them by Is this true?

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Speaker 6: They invited the photographers? Is that true?

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Speaker 7: Carrol?

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Speaker 3: Is that I rescind All, like.

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Speaker 6: If you choose, was flipping out. He thought he thought

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Speaker 6: they were like in Gillie suits, you know, like a sniper.

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Speaker 3: But with a camera.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think there should be secret photos taken

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Speaker 2: of people on vacation if they were not secret.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I don't know about the part about them

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Speaker 4: inviting them, you know, I don't know about the photographer part,

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Speaker 4: but the idea that those two people don't have good bodies,

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Speaker 4: I think people have really lost it. He's a football player,

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Speaker 4: she's in fantastic shape. I mean, just we've gotten to

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Speaker 4: And I mean, come on, when Trevors Kelsey and Taylor

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Speaker 4: Swift are not good looking anymore, we've really lost it.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is what I mean.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think that social media in particular has

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Speaker 6: where you like, you know, show the jam preserves that

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Speaker 6: you're making and you know your grandchildren. Instagram is where

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Speaker 6: people put the Yeah, Instagram is where you put your

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Speaker 6: first trap.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: Instagram, which is for those who don't know, that's when

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Speaker 6: the comments. That's called the first trap. Or I guess

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Speaker 6: maybe Ginger when I hold her up that's a thirst

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Speaker 6: trap too. But anyway, but the truth here is that

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Speaker 6: I think people are losing sight of well, first of all,

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Speaker 6: what's important, but beyond that, what's normal. And i'd also say, Carol,

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Speaker 6: you know I think that you're I always think you

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Speaker 6: have interesting takes on aesthetics. I understand people can have

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Speaker 6: different views of things. I also think that plastic surgery,

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Speaker 6: maybe just because I live in Miami, it's just getting

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Speaker 6: completely out of control, though, And the people you see

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Speaker 6: in the media are also getting completely out We're not.

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Speaker 3: Talking about a little snip or a little you know,

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Speaker 6: Like everyone's walking around like they've got this plastic face

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Speaker 4: Right, it's I do not like it, do not approve

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Speaker 4: at all. Yeah, that's really it, though. You it's the

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Speaker 4: fact that we're not seeing real faces on social media.

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Speaker 4: And you know, Facebook is the last place you could

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Speaker 4: see real faces. You could see your grandma's face.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think people have forgotten what people really

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Speaker 2: You may be the swifties favorite media person now. One

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I saw a.

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Speaker 8: Your argument that race has no place in that equation

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Speaker 9: No, well, there's two separate questions. One is whether each

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Speaker 9: The question is how do you address that in the

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Speaker 7: But the way to do that is on the basis.

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Speaker 9: Of class, and that will disproportionately target Blacks and Hispanics

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that was part one. That's part of the discussion.

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Speaker 2: And then Sonny Houston decides she's going to directly attack him.

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Speaker 8: Many in the black community believe that you are being

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Speaker 9: I don't think I've been co opted by anyone. I've

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Speaker 9: it's better and it would be better for everyone if

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Speaker 9: we stuck to the topics rather than make it about me.

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Speaker 8: I want to give you the opportunity to respond to this.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate the criticism. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 9: There's no evidence that I've been co opted by anyone.

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Speaker 9: I have an independent podcast, I work for CNN as

446
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Speaker 9: an analyst.

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Speaker 7: I write for the Free Press.

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Speaker 9: I'm independent in all of these endeavors, and no one

449
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Speaker 9: is paying me to say what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: I'm saying it because I feel it.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Can I just she's not only she's actually my

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Speaker 6: least favorite.

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Speaker 5: At the table?

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Speaker 6: I will say, I agree with you, she's the worst.

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Speaker 6: She is she has become. She's super you know, just

456
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Speaker 6: sort of always takes the most entitled position. You know,

457
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Speaker 6: she's very, very smug with everybody all the time. I

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Speaker 6: was like, oh, I'm a lawyer, so I know more

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Speaker 6: than everybody. She's honestly, deeply unimpressive and not very bright.

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Speaker 3: But I'll just.

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Speaker 6: Say this, her whole thing there, and this is what

462
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Speaker 6: really bothered me of people are saying, no, she's saying it.

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Speaker 6: She's saying it. She's using this ploy on a show

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Speaker 6: where this gentleman is being very gentlemanly.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Coleman Hughes.

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Speaker 6: She's the one who is taking upon herself to say, well,

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Speaker 6: you know, everybody says you're a fraud in the black

468
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Speaker 6: community and that you've been co opted. So what do

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Speaker 6: you say to that? Like, first of all, I wish

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Speaker 6: she had gone. You know, that Pierre Poliev guy in Canada,

471
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Speaker 6: he should have been like, whoo who name and name?

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Speaker 6: You're the one who said.

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Speaker 3: It, you know, remember, just like Laise it out with

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Speaker 3: that guy.

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Speaker 6: He should he should have forced her because because what

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Speaker 6: she's doing is hiding behind this, oh, this generic perception. No,

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Speaker 6: she clearly believes that too. And look, you know her,

478
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Speaker 6: she has a she has a child at Harvard. She's

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Speaker 6: a fan of racial preferences. I think she might think

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Speaker 6: that her career may have been helped by racial preferences.

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Speaker 6: And she is a female, minority, multi multimillionaire and still

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Speaker 6: thinks that life is really hard for her and she's

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Speaker 6: a victim, so she takes it personally. It's very obvious

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Speaker 6: from her analysis on that set to call somebody a

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Speaker 6: charlaton is a pretty significant attack, even if you put

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Speaker 6: it in someone else's voices. Remember, also, Sonny Hostin's ancestors

487
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Speaker 6: own slaves, remember we had that discussion where she found

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Speaker 6: out that actually she was the beneficiary of slavery having existed.

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Speaker 3: You could do this.

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Speaker 6: Do you think anybody who writes a controversial book or

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Speaker 6: not even controversial, a book that makes a political argument

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Speaker 6: that she likes, she has a moment to dive into

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Speaker 6: the argument or to do with what he writes about.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 6: Do you think that she would ever say to Ibram

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Speaker 6: x Kendy on that stage, for example, same kind of

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Speaker 6: issues written about. Do you think she'd say, you know,

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Speaker 6: people think that you're a hack who uses racial division

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Speaker 6: to unjustly enrich yourself with idiotic theories, and you're not

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Speaker 6: even a real public intellectual, like you're just spewing stuff

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Speaker 6: that other people have spewed and using race people say that,

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Speaker 6: do you think she would ever do that?

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Speaker 3: Of course or not? She doesn't say think she wouldn't

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Speaker 3: do it?

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Speaker 2: For Nicole Hanna Jones that also, I think it's interesting

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Speaker 2: how she is saying that he's this is this is

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Speaker 2: I think such an important point here. What identity politics

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Speaker 2: requires is that no one be able to speak out

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Speaker 2: on their own opinion irrespective of their race. And what

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Speaker 2: she's saying to Coleman Hughes is, you basically aren't allowed

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Speaker 2: to have the opinions that you have because you're a

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Speaker 2: black man. And if you do have them, you can't

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Speaker 2: really believe them because you're just a tool of others.

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Speaker 3: Probably that's exactly right. That's exactly right.

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Speaker 6: And also, I mean, would I would if I ever

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Speaker 6: consider that, I would say the world that or the

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Speaker 6: America that Sonny Houston and those who are left dislike

518
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Speaker 6: her want, is one in which the following they consider

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Speaker 6: to be just a Vietnamese immigrant comes to this country penniless, Okay,

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Speaker 6: And at no point in that penniless journey arriving here

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Speaker 6: looks at the parents. You know, they bring their child

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Speaker 6: with them. They are not beneficiaries of affirmative action. They

523
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Speaker 6: do not get government contracts. They are not, in fact

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Speaker 6: of ending discriminate against negatively in the higher education system.

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Speaker 6: Even though they don't speak English. They come here with nothing.

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Speaker 6: If you are the son of a black medical doctor,

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Speaker 6: you know, a black heart surgeon. If you are the

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Speaker 6: son of Ben Carson, for example, I don't know if

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Speaker 6: he has kids, Anonymous me, he probably does think he's

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Speaker 6: going to be he's yeah, well, you know, he's an

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Speaker 6: amazingly successful and well off guy, the son of somebody

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Speaker 6: whos accomplished, as Ben Carson in that situation, in Sonny

533
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Speaker 6: Austin's world, or any black Cardio Cratis, Malia and Sash Obama,

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Speaker 6: Melias Sasha bab right, perfect examples. It doesn't matter Milia

535
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Speaker 6: and Sasha Obama. Well they're Obama. So there's you know that,

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Speaker 6: there's like the political affirmative action that happens too for

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Speaker 6: famous Democrats. But point being, if you, if you're the

538
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Speaker 6: son of a black billionaire, you get the advantage of

539
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Speaker 6: going to going to apply to Harvard.

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Speaker 3: As a black person.

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Speaker 6: And if you are a tenningless Vietnamese immigrant who comes

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Speaker 6: to America with nothing, and all he or she has

543
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Speaker 6: is hard work.

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Speaker 3: Harvard says to.

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Speaker 6: You, sorry, too many of your kind applying. And Sonny Houston,

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Speaker 6: who is a millionaire with children who go to Harvard herself,

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Speaker 6: thinks that is justice. Why do you think she gets

548
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Speaker 6: so nasty about this, because ultimately she knows if the

549
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Speaker 6: argument were exposed, it's clearly unjust. People just want their stuff,

550
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Speaker 6: they want their special privileges. It has nothing to do

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Speaker 6: with what is fair. It has nothing to do with

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Speaker 6: what is constitutional. Clay Supreme Court's already ruled it is

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Speaker 6: unconstitutional to do what Sonny Hostin wants.

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Speaker 3: She doesn't care. She's a lawyer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think it's really important here, And that's

556
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Speaker 2: why his better point that Sonny Houstin didn't address is

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Speaker 2: if you look at elite colleges, do you know who's

558
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Speaker 2: actually hugely underrepresented poor people? Because socioeconomics is actually what

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Speaker 2: keeps someone from oftentimes being able to go to an

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Speaker 2: elite college.

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Speaker 6: If you want to tell me that somebody with two

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Speaker 6: parents who went to college and a house with a

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Speaker 6: household income of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars or

564
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Speaker 6: more has an advantage over somebody from a single parent

565
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Speaker 6: household with a single parent not finishing high school and

566
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Speaker 6: a household income of forty grand and you win that

567
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Speaker 6: argument every time because you know, or rather I would

568
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Speaker 6: agree with that argument every time. Right, That is true.

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Speaker 6: The world in which Sunny Hostin the left one who

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Speaker 6: operate is it is the skin color or the ethnicity

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Speaker 6: of the individual that matters, not socioeconomic status, and that,

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Speaker 6: unfortunately is farcical, it's absurd.

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Speaker 2: And I would also build on this buck by saying

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Speaker 2: the person with the lower socioeconomics status, if they have

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Speaker 2: been able to elevate themselves closer to the person who

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Speaker 2: is the advantage socioeconomic status, I would argue that their

577
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Speaker 2: actual potential is far higher because they haven't been able

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Speaker 2: to unlock all of the advantages that someone else has.

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Speaker 2: Almost like a venture capital, if you're looking at individuals

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Speaker 2: and thinking, Okay, this person from a single parent household

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Speaker 2: to your point, who has a forty thousand dollars income,

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Speaker 2: they got let's say a thirteen hundred on the SAT.

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Speaker 2: Somebody with every advantage got thirteen sixty. Well, how much

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Speaker 2: higher could the SAT of thirteen one hundred go? How

585
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Speaker 2: much higher is their ceiling? Who would you rather invest

586
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Speaker 2: in the person who hasn't had the opportunity yet to

587
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Speaker 2: maximize their potential or the person who's had every advantage

588
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Speaker 2: and probably has already.

589
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Speaker 3: Gone as far as they can go.

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Speaker 2: It really to me, if you're trying to produce elite,

591
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Speaker 2: meritocratic individuals, you want to go with the guy or

592
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Speaker 2: gal who has the biggest possible ceiling, not the person

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Speaker 2: who's already maximized their ability thanks to their advantages.

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Speaker 6: But again, the Sunny hoston argument on this and what

595
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Speaker 6: she was really just so nasty to Coleman Hughes about

596
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Speaker 6: is if you are a white kid from Appalachia who

597
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Speaker 6: has one parent and you grow up with you know,

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Speaker 6: you know, on welfare, you've had it easier than Obama's kids.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the argument.

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Speaker 6: And for the purposes of college application, for the purposes

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Speaker 6: of hiring, you've had it easier, and for there should

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Speaker 6: be discrimination in favor of the latter and not the former.

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Speaker 6: That is the argument that she's because she is eliminating

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Speaker 6: economics as a factor in the disparity. It is only

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Speaker 6: about ethnicity, It is only about skin color.

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Speaker 2: It also then gets really crazy and super racist, right

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Speaker 2: because then you start asking, Okay, what percentage minority do

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Speaker 2: you have to be toccount as a minority for purposes

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Speaker 2: of applying to Harvard. Yes, if you have one grandparent

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Speaker 2: who is black, I bet you're applying as a black person.

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Speaker 6: I know someone who basically lied about being a Pacific

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Speaker 6: islander so she could get into Stanford and it worked.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she was one sixteenth. Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean it's like it's crazy, but you end

615
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Speaker 2: up back in the super racist if you have one

616
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Speaker 2: drop of black blood, then you are black world that

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Speaker 2: actually existed during slavery.

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Speaker 6: Elizabeth Warren got hired as a Harvard law professor pretending

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Speaker 6: to be a Cherokee.

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Speaker 3: True, she's the whitest woman we've ever seen. You can't

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Speaker 3: get any whiter. And then cited her cheek bones as

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Speaker 3: evidence of her Native American heritage. And then what was

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Speaker 3: she one one, one thousand and sixty fourth or something.

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Speaker 3: She put out the genetic history like, oh, this proves

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Speaker 3: that I wasn't lying, and the data somebody looked up

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Speaker 3: with the percentage. I think it was like one of

627
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Speaker 3: one thousand and sixty four percent, and somebody said, that's

628
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Speaker 3: actually less CNN than the average white person has in

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Speaker 3: America today.

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Speaker 6: I was immediately on Twitter lighting up CNN Communications over

631
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Speaker 6: this because they were like, shit, it proves that I

632
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Speaker 6: was like, nope, it does not prove that Elizabeth Warren

633
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Speaker 6: as Native American.

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Speaker 3: Tom proved that you were idiots. And this is where

635
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Speaker 3: do you remember Sean King, the fake black guy on Twitter?

636
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Speaker 3: You know that guy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I told him I don't remember what the percentage

638
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Speaker 2: I said. I think twenty five percent that I would

639
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Speaker 2: give fifty thousand dollars to the charity of his choice

640
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Speaker 2: if he would take a DNA test to prove that

641
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Speaker 2: he was black. Did not take it up. But the

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Speaker 2: guy is just a white dude, I think pretending to

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Speaker 2: be black. He has a white white I mean he's

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Speaker 2: got red hair. You know.

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Speaker 6: He look at the pictures of him when he was

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Speaker 6: a kid. He's at Kentucky white. My understanding is your

647
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Speaker 6: if your parents are white, then you are considered to

648
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Speaker 6: be white. So that is a good place to start with.

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Speaker 6: If both your parents are white, you're generally considered to

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Speaker 6: be a white sentter to be white generally.

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Speaker 2: So Giza dream sheets, most comfortable sheets we've ever had

652
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Speaker 2: in the Travis household, made by our friends. At my

653
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: pillow so soft. You'll wonder how they can make sheets

654
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Speaker 2: so durable.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: When I had the kidney stone, I thought I was

657
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Speaker 2: gonna die, and I was laying there, I was like,

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Speaker 2: at least I got decent sheets. I actually did kind

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Speaker 2: of think that for a moment because I was trying

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Speaker 3: That is super fun, just.

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Speaker 6: Because so Ryan, who is my little nephew, who is

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Speaker 6: him to see some some gators. Pretty awesome, Yeah, gators

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Speaker 3: Not a lot of alligators running around.

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Speaker 2: I was obsessed and still am kind of with alligators

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Speaker 2: in general. Crocodiles. My kids are too. The airboat tour,

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Speaker 2: I think you're gonna love it. That's gonna be on one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're looking forward to it should be really cool. Get

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Speaker 2: to some of your emails here. Let's say, first off,

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Speaker 2: will right, the teachers Union will never vote for a

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Speaker 2: Republican will correct check we can all agree on that one.

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Speaker 2: Bruce writes, Sam Bankman Freed stole over eight billion dollars

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Speaker 2: of customer assets. The only reason they're getting money back

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Speaker 2: is the crypto market has increased. He still stole money.

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Speaker 2: The recovery has nothing to do with the fraud. Play

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Speaker 2: lightning round. What do you say to this? I believe

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Speaker 2: that he borrowed money based on the assets that other

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Speaker 3: So I don't think he took the cash.

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Speaker 2: I think he used the cash as assets, which raises

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Speaker 2: the question how in the world was he given the

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Speaker 2: ability to do this? And I think one of his

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Speaker 2: defenses is that the lawyer signed off on all of this.

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Speaker 2: The larger picture here is it is very complicated, the

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Speaker 2: financial wranglings, the investments that he made, everything else, I

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Speaker 2: I think this case is very strange.

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Speaker 6: Well twenty five years to me, that just feels like

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Speaker 6: if there's not actual financial losses still, that feels like

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Speaker 6: a long time to go away. Anyway, we got one

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Speaker 6: more here, Lloyd writes Clay, very easy to never get

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Speaker 6: a kidney stone again. Problem is you are not hydrating enough.

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Speaker 6: I'm a former operator from the Navy. I consume one

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Speaker 6: hundred and seventy to two hundred and fifty ounces of

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Speaker 6: just trying to have.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like a lot.

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Speaker 2: I drink a lot of water and have always drink

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Speaker 3: Think that it is a lack of.

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Speaker 6: Fluidation that is causing my Lloyd also right in Buck,

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Speaker 6: A real man's dog is a malanoa.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, Lloyd.

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Speaker 6: I love malanoaw as much as the next guy. But

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Speaker 6: they got big jaws. They're a lot to handle. They

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Speaker 6: so yeah, it's fine if you want to spend a

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