1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Own this thing. It's ours. Come on, let's go the 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Walt County and Nino four. Let's own this stadium. Make 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: it ours. Welcome to the Urban Meyers Shower Show show. 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: Former Jaguar Jeff Lockman and J. P. Shadrick discussed the 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: latest Jaguars news with the head coach. The Urban Meyers 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: Show starts right now and welcome in to the Urban 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Meyers Show on this Tuesday afternoon on the Jaguars Radio Network. 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: JP Shadrick, Jeff Lockman, and Jaguars head coach Urban Meyer 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: as we recap the Jags loss in Week thirteen the 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams and early hold, but fought back with 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: a third team play drive to get in the end 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: zone to make it a three point game. The offense though, 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: couldn't get much done the rest of the day, and 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: the defense, though they played well early, just kind of 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: ran out of gas, it felt like late in the 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: second quarter and into the third. Coach, Yeah, I'm really 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: looking forward having these radio shows with you guys, and 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: we get this thing rolling so that that's going to happen. Um. Yeah, 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, you hand the ball ten points 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: basically against our defense against like I called him an 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: All Star team. I mean, there's a lot of very 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: good players that we're going against. And uh, you know, 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: kickoff return, we played great defense out him to field goal, 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: and then you come right back and laid on the ground. 25 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: You can't do that or you lose games. And uh, 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: but they fought and our offense fought right back and 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: and drove the ball down the length of the field. 28 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: Trevor had something really good, really good. Scramble made some 29 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: good plays. Um, we were protecting them and uh made 30 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: a ten seven ten seven. Life's pretty good. Then we 31 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: really won the battle field position. From that point forward, 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: their average start was the minus one, minus seven, minus nine, 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: I believe fourteen. Um, you know in those kind of 34 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: scenarios that we actually got the ball one time at 35 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: the forty, one time at the fifty, and then we're 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: gonna get the ball back to start the second half. 37 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: So you're talking about on the road against a good 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: team that you can't have a better scenario than that, 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: And we just didn't capitalize. And and you talked about 40 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: laying it on the ground. Turnover differential, we talked about 41 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: this from the very onset of the season continues to 42 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: be a problem. Minus fifteen turnover differential, and for a 43 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: lot of people that really don't understand how that impacts 44 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: a game. I mean, here's a couple other numbers. Your 45 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: defense has allowed sixty one points off of the twenty 46 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: one offensive giveaways, and your offense has only been able 47 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: to score three points off of the six takeaways. I mean, 48 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: so not only is it a minus fifteen turnover differential, 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: but it's a minus fifty five point differential. Those things matter. 50 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: It's a differential. It's been that way along before us, 51 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: and it can be that way long after us. We 52 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: did a thirty year study and and uh, you you 53 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: are minus wanted to turnover ratio. It's uh sixty seven 54 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: pretendial for cent a time, you're gonna lose. You lose 55 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: two turnovers, you're it's eight in the hi eighties, So 56 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: you basically lost the game. And Uh, this is I've 57 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: never had to dealt with it the oldest before. This 58 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: is something that we emphasize. Obviously we're not getting it 59 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: done and coaching it well enough. But uh, if you 60 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: turn them all over, you loose. And that's like I said, 61 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: that's in the that's time tested for many many years. 62 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: So what's the solution, take care of the football, keep 63 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: working it, and uh get it better, head coach Remord 64 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: Maria with us James Robinson had that early fumble, and 65 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: it's a position group a lot of folks are focused 66 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: on this week. After that game in Los Angeles, Carlos 67 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: Hide came in the game. After that, Robinson touched it 68 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: again in the third quarter and again in the final minutes. 69 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: What is the ideal situation for your running back and 70 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: how do you get everybody back on the same page there, 71 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: staff and players included. Well, we're obviously we're dealing with James. 72 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: It's not full speed. He's not practicing Wednesday and Thursday. Uh, 73 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: he practiced someone Friday. It's a I mean, no one's there. 74 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: He's as toughest cadacor that. I've said that every week, 75 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: but you know he's also in the last two games 76 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: we've had twice the balls on the ground and then 77 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: Carlos goes in the balls on the ground. Darry had 78 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: an ankle issue in the second half of the game, 79 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: so he was unable to go in the game. So 80 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: you only have three running acts up um and then 81 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: I once again don't Microman's a rotation of the running backs. Um, 82 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, one thing you do, you come out of 83 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: the game if there's a fumble, and when you go 84 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: back in, that's that's up to you know, the coaches 85 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: and and go back in the game. Um. So as 86 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: far as being on the same page, you know, taking 87 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: care of the football as a premium. Uh, and that's 88 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: always going to be a premium here and I mean everywhere. 89 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 1: I can't imagine someone say it's not that important. And 90 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: James is historically outstanding take care of the ball. So 91 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself why, Well, it's fundamentals and 92 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: you've got to make sure that we're getting some work 93 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: in practice. He is still a relatively young player, great player. UM. 94 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: And I showed tape actually we met earlier today and 95 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: I showed about a fifteen play tape of against him 96 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: all in the same game the Titans and um, when 97 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: we played him before, and he was, you know, I 98 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: think one of the top running backs in the NFL 99 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: at the time and very well. Uh, as far as 100 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, we call it chin chin chin, and it's 101 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: uh clot lock it clampet is the sound bites that 102 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: are running back uses, and he is outstanding at it. 103 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: For some reason he hasn't been and we have to 104 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: get back to those fundamentals. Urban James certainly one of 105 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: the highly respected guys in your locker room, and uh, 106 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: he does things that seems like always the right way 107 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: there would be on the field off the field. How 108 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: important was it to talk with him today? Oh, James 109 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: and I got a great relationship. He's a guy that 110 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: you know you're talking about from January through just a grinder, 111 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: you know. He the one thing when you watch him, 112 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: he looked works so hard on his leg drive. Uh 113 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: where he became an excellent second level runner. Last year 114 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: he was not. He was a very good runner, but 115 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: he really you know, we identified it. We worked together 116 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: on it, and you know by the same thing we 117 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: did with Zeke Elliott coming. You know, as early in 118 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: his college career, he just wasn't breaking those second level 119 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: tackles and James, we saw it. So we made a 120 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: highlight video, watched it and said, look, one of the 121 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: top five running backs in the league, and he sees it. 122 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: He was excited when he left, and we gotta get 123 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: him back to that level. Head coach Revor Meyer with 124 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: us Trevor Lawrence. Now we see his poise at the podium. 125 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: Of course, after tough games like Sunday and on Wednesday, 126 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: when he speaks with the media, I'm guessing he's the 127 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: same way in the meeting rooms and the the offensive 128 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: meeting rooms and the quarterback coaches and the offensive coordinator 129 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: and all that. But I mean, this is wearing on 130 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: everybody obviously. How is Trevor handling the situation with the 131 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: offense right now? Trevor is a winner, you know, Trevor. 132 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: You look at his record, We all are what we're 133 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: at record is, and right now we're not winning, and 134 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: you can see it's bothering him. You can see that, Uh, 135 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: the efficiency of offense when I you know, once again, 136 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to belabor the point about going back 137 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: to our Titans game, but Titans game at one point 138 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: where if we score on that one yard line, we're 139 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: within five points, and you just watch the execution of 140 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: offense in that game, which I've watched already twice um 141 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: with our coaches. It's you know, it was to tell 142 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: me that we'd still be out of these struggles this 143 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: time of year, I'd say, you're out of your mind. 144 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: That won't happen. And because we were performed. You think 145 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: about the Phoenix Cardinals, you think about the UH Titans 146 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: and these the elevation of the offense that was heading 147 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: in the right direction, the trajectory of the offense was 148 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: heading the right direction. So we just got to get back. 149 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we've got five games left and our best 150 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: version ourself is pretty good. I when you talked about 151 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: Trevor being a winner, and obviously when winning is not happening, 152 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: it can take a toll on a person's psyche. In 153 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: your sports performance model, you have a lot of things 154 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: that are kind of geared towards the body. Do you 155 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: also have things that are available to the player's mind. 156 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: When I played, we had people that we could talk 157 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: to to kind of maybe even to teach us visualization. 158 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: Are those things available to players as well? Well? We 159 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: have a sports psychologists, uh two of them, and then 160 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: but I think that's a lot of the unit we 161 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 1: call power of the unit. You know, I've psychology major, 162 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: and you know I've that's part of our job. You know, 163 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: I have a video staff that's uh got uh endless 164 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: limitless resources. You know, I think that's my job, but 165 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: it's also the job of the position coach. So absolutely, 166 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: this is a world of visualization. You know, James Robinson, 167 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: uh has been down. He came in today and he left. 168 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: You know, I'm exaggerated. I don't think his feet were 169 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: touching the ground when he left, because you visualized it 170 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: was what he saw, he was and he can get back. 171 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: He looked at me and said, I can't wait till 172 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: tomorrow to get back at it. Um. So we got 173 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: to get you know, cleanse ourselves of the nonsense of 174 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: a poor play and and be positive about these next 175 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: five games and get some momentum back in this organization. 176 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: At one point, we won two out of three and 177 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: life was pretty good around here. Guys are bouncing around 178 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: and our defense is playing number one in the defense 179 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, Uh in the league. An 180 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: offense at one point was one of the highest trajectory 181 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: offenses in the NFL. We started slow and then alson 182 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: you saw Trevor's completion rate go up, QBR go up, 183 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: and Uh yeah, absolutely answer your question. Absolutely, we have 184 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: that available, but we all have most of it's available 185 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: through the position. Coach. With these five games left, the 186 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: challenge is always kind of getting to the end because 187 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: bodies are store. I've been there, and you've got a 188 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: couple of guys that got nicked up in this past game. 189 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: A couple of guys that have been nicked up and 190 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: the guys that got Nick, Brandon Lender and Ben Bart. 191 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: How are they doing and what do you expect for 192 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: this week? I know it's early, but still yeah, it's 193 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: still early. Uh. You know, Brandon told me he should 194 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: be ready to go. Bart for sure, we'll be ready 195 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: to go. Uh. Tyson Campbell was out for a few series. 196 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: I understand you don't want no more this week. We've 197 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: obviously been practice today, but you know, I see most 198 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: of the guys that James has felt better this week, 199 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: So uh, I'm anticipating, you know, for this time of year. 200 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: You know, I'll tell you what though. Man, we've had 201 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: some awful injuries on offense that have set us back 202 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: a little bit, but uh, we should be fairly healthy. 203 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: Urban will come back in just a moment and flip 204 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: it around to the Jaguars defense this past week against 205 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: the Rams, and this is the Urban Meyer Show on 206 00:09:52,080 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: the Jaguars Radio Network. Come Back, j P. Shadrick, Jeff 207 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: Loghman and Jaguars head coach Urban Meyer, the Jags and 208 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans coming up in Week fourteen. Our final 209 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: look at Week thirteen the Jaguars and the l A. Rams, 210 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: and as we mentioned earlier briefly, coach defense on the 211 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: field a lot, you know, a lot of double digit 212 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: played drive for the Rams. That felt like early in 213 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: the game especially, and then they started throwing around the 214 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: yard in the third quarter. There that was a big challenge. 215 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: It's a it's a Rams offense that can you know, 216 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: we've seen it before this season. They can line up 217 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: a scoreboard. What was the biggest challenge with that group 218 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: going in? The biggest challenge is not playing good offense. 219 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: You know, the best defense is sustaining the ball. Take 220 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: care of the ball. You know, that's one of the 221 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: you talk about the culture and the plan to win 222 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: here at the Jaguars has played great defense. When we 223 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: do we win. We played against the Buffalo Bills and 224 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: we didn't score a lot of points. But the one 225 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: thing we didn't do is put our defense in the 226 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: harms way. You put your defense in his harm way. 227 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: It's very simple. You lose, and we've done that. We 228 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: can't do that. And of the best defenses want to 229 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: get offense, take care of the darn ball, get first down, 230 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: sustained the drives. And that's how you play great defense, 231 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: especially Odell Beckham, Cup and Jefferson and h Stafford and 232 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: I can go on and on and on. Get him 233 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: off the darn field. And when they're off the field, 234 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: you can regroup on defense to throw our defense back 235 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: out there. That's that's not you know that, that's not. 236 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: You can blame the defense all you want. And defense 237 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: certainly didn't play well enough, especially in the second half, 238 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: but you're looking at at halftime that score should have been, Uh, 239 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: take away the ten freebees. You know, you're talking about 240 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: a seven seven game, ten seven game on the defense. 241 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: Over the last four games heaven and early in the season, 242 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: they're really good against the run. The last four games 243 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: maybe not as well. Uh the numbers four games, five 244 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: and seventy five yard dressing allowing about four point six 245 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: yards to carry. That was really a stat of power 246 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: with this defense early on Urban was the yards per 247 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: rush allowed. And that's kind of falling off a little bit. 248 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: How do you get back to being dominant in that category? 249 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: To give your defense even though it's you know, We're 250 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: talking about both sides of the ball here, but to 251 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: give the defense it's best chance. Yeah, that's if it's 252 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: a simple you know, I know that's a question that's 253 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: going to be addressed because our defense is built to 254 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: stop the run. And Davon Hamilton's was out this game 255 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: and J two Felly got inter actually played decent, but 256 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: being stout against the round, we kind of key for 257 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: be careful. Not in Malcolm Brown getting war down. Just 258 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: once again, you're just looking at how many quality reps 259 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: are you on the field, And when the offense is 260 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: not performing and defense gets war out, it's all a 261 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: team effort. We're all in this together, and so yeah, 262 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: the defense has to play much better and we gotta 263 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: be better against the run. But for some reason, and 264 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm being sarcastic, when the offense has a four team 265 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: play drive, usually the defense firms up because they're arrested 266 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: and ready to go out in the field and go play. 267 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: When they come off the field next snap they're on 268 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: the field, that's not good one of the guys that 269 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to say that everything is bad, 270 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: because not everything is Number ninety one to want smooth, 271 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: I think continues to play exceptionally well Urban. I love 272 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: his energy, his tenacity, and his never say die attitude. 273 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter whether it's the first snap of 274 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: the game or the last snap of the game. I 275 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: love the way he plays. Yeah, that's uh. You want 276 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: a locker room of elite warrior competitors. Every great player, 277 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: every great player, and I've been blessed to be around 278 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: some of the greatest have ever played the game. Um 279 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: when the college level and as they continue in their 280 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: NFL journey. The single common characteristic of all of as 281 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: the lead competitor, and they just don't you know, you 282 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: don't just turn off your phone. It's one of those things. 283 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: You compete at everything you do. And I love Spoot 284 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: for that. Rudy Ford another one of those guys that 285 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: early in the season. He came here in free agency 286 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: mainly as a special team's contributor. He's jumped in there 287 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: on defense and his stat line was nice on Sunday 288 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: as well. Tackle for loss, hit the quarterback at that 289 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: half a sack was smooth, and he's continued to see 290 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: him flash on defense. Yeah, you're two of my favorite players. 291 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: As they just show up. I can what is today, Tuesday, Wednesday. 292 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: I know what Smooth is gonna like. I can see 293 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: his face already. He's gonna come out through the great demeanor. 294 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: He's gonna get his extra lifting during the week. He's 295 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: over two hundred seventy some pounds and stronger than he's 296 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: ever been. Think about that for a minute. We're talking 297 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: about we're in December right now. He's stronger than he's 298 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: ever been. And I know what he's gonna do tomorrow. 299 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna be the same Wednesday that I You know, 300 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: that's that's consistency that you need out of a player 301 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: and a team. Rudy Ford will come in and and 302 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: the same thing. They'll take care of his body tonight, 303 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: but usually gets an ice bath and all that kind 304 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: of stuff later in the day after he's already worked out, 305 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: and he'll come in tomorrow and be one of the 306 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: fastest players on the field with the great attitude. Work 307 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: in his tail off and Rudy had a tough play 308 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: on that long play to Cooper Cup. And this was 309 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: the first opportunity to be able to see Cooper Cup 310 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: up close and personal. What a great receiver he is. Yeah, 311 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: he's uh, you know, for the you know. Uh, and 312 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: Rudy took his eyes off for a minute, and you know, 313 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: great effort to catch him down the field, but the 314 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: damage has already done. But Cooper Cup and uh, he's 315 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: there's a reason why he's one of the best in 316 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: the NFL, you know. And I don't I've never coached him, 317 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: but I've heard about him. He's just a guy that 318 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: never shuts it off. He's just a junkie, understands the game, 319 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: understands space, understands leverage, and that really does a great job. 320 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: Chat Griffin status moving ahead, it's positive for this week. 321 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: It should be a go good news. Let's come back 322 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: in a moment and we will talk about this week. 323 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans coming up in week fourteen. This is 324 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: the Urban Meyers Show on Jaguars Radio. Wow, Welcome Back. 325 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: The Urban Meyers Show continues along the Jaguars Radio Network. 326 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaguars Game Day Broadcaster presented by Vice Star 327 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: Credit Union j P Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman and head coach 328 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer on The Urban Meyers Show and the Jaguars 329 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: headed up to Nashville, Tennessee Music City, USA. It's been 330 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: a house of horrors over the history, at least the 331 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: Jaguars trying to buck that trend this week Urban against 332 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: the team you've already seen once, Tennessee Titans. But it's 333 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: a much different feeling Tennessee team now Henry's out. Top 334 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: three receivers are gone, but they're still figuring out a 335 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: way to to get some football games. One up there 336 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: under Mike Rebel. Yeah, they got a great culture, you know, 337 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: one that I studied a little bit in the offseason 338 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: and uh a year ago, not this past year obviously, 339 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: but um uh Julio Jones might come back this week. 340 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: Uh you know his his I R I believe he 341 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: comes off and he's uh but the horse isn't there. 342 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, you watch him un the ball. 343 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: They're still running the ball really, really effectively. They got 344 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: one of the best lines in the NFL and uh 345 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: Tannehill is very efficient and uh uh but to make 346 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: a mistake, I mean with two Julio and the other 347 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: receivers aren't there that that's tough on them and they 348 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: struggle a little bit, but they're still a very good team. Yeah, 349 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: the Julio Jones and A J. Brown, I mean are 350 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: legitimate top end receiver of threats and Tanny Hill is 351 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: a guy that is not afraid to throw those balls, 352 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: and so not having that, do you do you play 353 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: a team like this differently when they have those guys 354 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: versus when they don't. Yeah, I when we got ready 355 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: for him. That was the first time I actually coached 356 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: against Derrick Henry in college. And when you have a 357 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: player like that, it's it's you have to you know that. 358 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: That's what we all strive to have to be is 359 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: that legitimate threats all over the field. Because okay, let's 360 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: take can you take away uh Derrick Henry? Of course 361 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: you can. You know you surely you put two people 362 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: in the box you can't block and I mean, he's 363 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: still gonna get his yards because he's a great player, 364 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: but certainly you can stop him. In the second half. 365 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: Last last time we Playtom we held up a two 366 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: point of yards per carry um. But can you stop 367 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: him and those other three weapons that they have? You know, 368 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: that's that's how you win Super Bowls. No, it's hard, 369 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: really hard, you know, to do that. So this we're 370 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: still in the game planning stages, but the rest assured, 371 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: now this is a very good team. This is a 372 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: team that all starts up on as far as their offense, 373 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: it starts up front, and they are very good. Yeah, 374 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: it's almost a game of bullyball. I mean that's where 375 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: it's been, I think since the rivalry has existed. It's 376 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: the team that's more physical, the team that's willing to 377 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: be smash mouth and can execute smash mouth football, or 378 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: the team that wins. It's interesting, Jeff. That's kind of 379 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: the way it's been as long as I've been alive 380 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: in this game of football. And uh uh, this rivalry, 381 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm new to it, but the rivalries I've been a 382 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: part of. The team that runs the ball, the best, 383 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: stops the runs, the most physical upfront, you're walking away 384 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: with a win. By the way, speaking of smash mouth, 385 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: did you did you do you ever get a chance 386 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: to watch Monday night football? And did you see that 387 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: the Patriots ended up winning last night and they only 388 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: threw the ball three times? Have you ever had a 389 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: game offensively in college or wherever you've been where you've 390 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: only thrown the ball three times? I did. We actually 391 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: played that when I was at Utah. Alex smissed my quarterback. 392 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: We played Provo in provo when there was this I 393 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: mean it was a two ft of stone and they 394 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: had the shovels, you know, between timeouts and everything out 395 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: on the field, and I ran Alex Smith nine times 396 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: in that game and we wanted three to zero. So yeah, 397 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: that was you know, I watched some of it last night. 398 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: Obviously I got other issues to worry about, but uh, 399 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: that was a tough game to watch. What you did, 400 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: you get your guys wear snowshoes for that game? How 401 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: bad was it? Was it? Like? Was it like accumulation 402 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: during the game? Yeah, they had the shovels, you know, 403 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: the yard markers yard line, so they were going. And 404 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: all I know is that at the end of the 405 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: we kicked the field on a second quarter before we 406 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: got too bad, and then you couldn't. I mean it 407 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: was a matter of who punted last Holy Award to remember, 408 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Utah and b y U head coach 409 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer with us. So all right, moving ahead here 410 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: five games ago. You know, this is that time of 411 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: year where you can kind of see the light at 412 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: the end of the season for a lot of guys. 413 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: But how do you keep the coach staff, the players 414 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: focused on the task at hand. Week, the week, five 415 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: games to go before the offseason. Well, I had a 416 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: good meeting with our players about this is all about value. 417 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: You know, your professionals, This is the way you earn 418 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: a living. And everything on tape counts. And and uh, 419 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: you know I always use the term no regrets. Man. 420 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: Let's you've got five games left. Increase your value. And 421 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: how do you increase your value? Play great? And by 422 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: the way, if we all play great, we have a 423 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: good chance of winning games. Same with coaching staffs. Increase 424 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: your value, make your guys well, make your guys great. 425 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: And uh, I don't look at it the light of 426 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: the day on a tonne. I look at this opportunity 427 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: to go in some darn games and gets some momentum. 428 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: You know, life is really good. When we won two 429 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: out of three, remember, you know, just bounce around the 430 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: hallways driving home, co wait to get up in the morning. 431 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: It sucks the other way. So let's let's let's get 432 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: back to that. The food tastes better, the air smells better, 433 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: everything's better when you win games. Urban, thanks for the time. 434 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: As always, we'll talk to you soon. Head coachrebord Meyer 435 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: with us back with Moreri's The Urban Meyer Show on 436 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: the Jaguars Radio Network. Welcome back, It's the Urban Meyers 437 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. J P. Shadrick, Jeff 438 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: Vlagerman and head Joe German Meyer joins us in the 439 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: first half hour each and every Tuesday afternoon. Well, um, 440 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: a lot to unpack there. Of course, as we head 441 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: into week fourteen, the talk of the town is the 442 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: running back stuff this week? Would you make of Urbans thoughts? Well, 443 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I would like, there's there's so much to it, 444 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: you know, and and um, the most important thing is 445 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: that they've got to get this thing kind of ironed out. 446 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is that James is 447 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: a very respected player and if if he is being 448 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: perceived as not being treated properly, then I think that 449 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: that I think that I can permeate it in the 450 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: locker room elsewhere, and that would be a big problem 451 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: for for any organization. And James is a good football player, 452 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: and they need to find a way to get him 453 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: back healthy and getting him productive for this offense because 454 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: they need him, I mean right now, they need him 455 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: more than anything. I mean, that's the part that uh 456 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: that has been consistent all year long is that when 457 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: James Robinson is healthy, he's a great back. I'm not 458 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: talking a good back now, he's a great back. He's 459 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: right there at the top of the league and rushing 460 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: earlier in the season, and and they're hanging with Henry 461 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: and those guys. Look here, here's the only thing. Think 462 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: back the last year when when this organization had so 463 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: much respect for James Robinson that they let Leonard Fournette 464 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: go without seeing James Robinson perform in a preseason game, 465 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: without seeing James Robinson perform at all in any type 466 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: of competitive situation, and then all he did was have 467 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: a phenomenal year. You just I just hope that this 468 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: staff respects James Robinson as much as he is deserving 469 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: because he is a very good football player. It was 470 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: good to hear them at least talk about it today. 471 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they met with each other there and went 472 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: through some things, and you know, that's that's a good 473 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: I just got to talk about community. I still want 474 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: my head coach to be aware of whether or not 475 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: he's in the game. Yeah, you know, I want Urban 476 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: Meyer to to be aware of that, because I mean, 477 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: you're the head coach and he's got to have an 478 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: awareness for that end of the game. Great opportunity, take 479 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: him out, don't put him back in to have him 480 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that was a great opportunity. Okay, well, look 481 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: if he's not gonna play the bulk of the game, 482 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: because you know, he gets punished for Carrie and I 483 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: still don't quite understand that concept. We're not talking about 484 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: a guy who's had a fumbling problem in his career. 485 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: That why why would he be punished? Well, don't stick 486 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: him in at the end of the game and then 487 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: have him, you know, and then say, well, you know, 488 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: we're we gotta get him healthy. It just it doesn't 489 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: quite work. But nonetheless, you know, hopefully everything is moving 490 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: forward because that's where you need to be better. Because 491 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans our first place in the division and they've 492 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: lost a couple of games back to back, but it's 493 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: still a team that can run the ball even without 494 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. They did it last week and a losing effort. 495 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: Two different guys went over a hundred yards last week 496 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: on the ground, and that's the challenge ahead. Jacks have 497 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: it one up there since, so you gotta figure out 498 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: a way to hang with this team this week. I'm 499 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: still the belief that the Tennessee Titans are beatable. I mean, 500 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: this is not the Tennessee Titans that was just steamrolling 501 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: opponents on their way to be in the best team 502 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: in the NFC, because that's what they were a few 503 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: weeks ago. And then all of a sudden, you you 504 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: don't have Derrick Henry for a couple of games, and 505 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: it starts to show. And then you don't have your 506 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: your big time receivers available in the game and it shows. 507 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: So I don't think the Tennessee Titans are what they 508 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: were anywhere close to being are what they were earlier 509 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: in the year. So do you have a chance, maybe, 510 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: but you gotta get your offense fixed. I mean right now, 511 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: this Jaguars offense, I mean they I mean that the 512 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: the NFL average, I think going in the last week's 513 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: game was about twenty three points scored a game per team, 514 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: and the Jaguars in the last six games obviously significantly 515 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: off of that. They're averaging in less than eleven yards 516 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: a game or eleven points a game. So I mean, 517 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: you're you're talking about twelve points a game off what 518 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: the league average had been. Yeah, and a defense that's 519 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: not helping them out by giving them more opportunities with 520 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: takeaways because the defense, you know, and and Urban had 521 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about putting some of the blame 522 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: on the offense for the defensive what was, well, yeah, 523 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: but the defense also needs to take care of their 524 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: own responsibility, which is stopping the run, which they're not 525 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: doing a very good job of lately, and also taking 526 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: the ball away, which they haven't done a very good 527 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: job of that all season. There's six takeaways, ye last 528 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: by by a long ways, by a long way. So 529 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: and then that when I refer to the the point 530 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: turnover differential, I mean that's real. First of all, the 531 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: defense has done a pretty good job of limiting the 532 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: opponents scoring on the one giveaways that the offense has 533 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: had not a bad job. But the Jaguars off of 534 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: the six defensive takeaways have only scored three points. And 535 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: so when you're looking at a minus fifty five turnover 536 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: point differential, you're not gonna win. I mean, that's that's 537 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: if you had to have or if you had to 538 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: fulfill one category in any statistical category in a football 539 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: game to give you the best chance to win that's it. 540 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: That's that's the category you need to have success in 541 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: and and this team is not winning it. We'll come 542 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: back in just a moment and dig deeper into the 543 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: offensive performance logs is what we'll do. We're gonna do 544 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: a deep dive. We are when we return. This is 545 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: the Urban Meyers Show on Jaguars Radio. Wow, Welcome back. 546 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: The Urban Meyer Show continues along the Jaguars Radio Network. 547 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: JP Shatrick with Jeff Lockerman. Head coach. Urban Meyer joins 548 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: us in the first half hour every Tuesday at five o'clock. 549 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: We thank Urban for his time today has always and 550 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: welcome back to the Agars Show. The Jaguars faced the 551 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans coming up in week fourteen. We'll get to 552 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: that a little deeper. Coming up. This offense though when 553 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 1: we touched on it the last six weeks, less than 554 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: eleven points per game. They were held under two hundred 555 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: yards this past week against the Los Angeles Rams, the 556 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: offensive line had a couple of guys banged up that 557 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: had to leave the game. Lender and BArch hearing Urban say, 558 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: it sounds pretty positive for their return this week, which 559 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: is good news, but it starts there. How's the offensive 560 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: line playing for you. There's a whole logs well not 561 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: good enough. Seriously, I mean you if you're if you're 562 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: putting out eleven points a game, not even eleven points 563 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: a game, your your offensive line's not playing well enough, 564 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: and they're not doing a good enough job in the 565 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: run game, they're not doing a good enough job in protection. 566 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: They've got to be better as a whole. But it's 567 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: not one guy or anything. It's kind of one of 568 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: those things where it's, you know, we talk about defensive responsibility, 569 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: stopping the run, it's you know, it's it's it's like, okay, 570 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: well you got you know, tackle gives up a pressure 571 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: and then a guard gives up a pressure. You've got 572 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: to be more consistent. An offensive line is probably one 573 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: of the most thankless jobs that there is on the planet, seriously, 574 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: because you can have and Tony and I've laughed about 575 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: this over the years, that an offensive lineman can have 576 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: Essentially you're average in about sixty five plays a game, 577 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: and you can have sixty two plays that are just 578 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean fantastic, shutting people down, I mean pancake and 579 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, doing a whole nine yards, but you give 580 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: up three bad plays and it could cost you a game. 581 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: That's how that's how important offensive line play, in the 582 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: consistency of offensive line play is. And I thought it 583 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: was interesting in the game that they try and they 584 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: have been doing a little bit of this half roll 585 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: kind of stuff with Trevor and it's not like a 586 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: true bootleg. They are running bootlegs, but it's like a 587 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: half roll. Is it Is that a new wrinkle or no, 588 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: they've been doing it. They've been doing it. It's where 589 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: it's almost where instead of Trevor dropping straight back behind center, 590 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: he almost kind of half rolls and so he's setting 591 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: up almost behind the tackle on one side and then 592 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: the line kind of moves with him. It's very challenging 593 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: for the offensive line sometimes to do that. If you 594 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: have great play action kind of with it, then it's 595 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: no problem. But what do you out to have before 596 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: you have play action or on the football exactly? So, 597 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: if you're running a play like that on second and eight, 598 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: the defense is not buying it. They're not buying it. 599 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: You can sell it all you want, but on second 600 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: and eight and you're down by fourteen, you're not getting that. 601 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: I mean, they're just they're they're gonna be pinning their 602 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: ears back and focusing on the quarterback. And I think 603 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: that's been part of the problem. A couple of things. 604 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: One is that you're not running the ball effectively, and 605 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: then then also you're calling it on second and eight. 606 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a that's really a play call more 607 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: for like second and three, second and four in my opinion, 608 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: So it's kind of twofold there, and that you're not 609 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: gonna and then special also the score if you're down 610 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: by twenty, right, they're not buying the play action. They're 611 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: gonna be rushing the passer. So it's one of those 612 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: things where the offensive line is, uh, we we thought 613 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: and and I think everybody was hopeful that they would 614 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: take another step up this year, and I think that 615 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: more moments they've had good moments, but overall they have 616 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: not taken a step up this year. Trevor Lawrence's play 617 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: obviously needs to help around him. My biggest contain, Yeah, 618 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: and that's that's the number one priority down the stretch 619 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: here is seeing if he can kind of get on 620 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: track here and and improves the final five weeks move along. 621 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: But um, it has not trended that way. Lately unfortunately. 622 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 1: That's that's probably my biggest concern is where where's Trevor 623 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: at in his development? Because I mean, you knew that 624 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: this year was about Trevor's development. I mean the wins 625 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: and losses we took when we said this, it's it's 626 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: not so much the wins and losses that you want 627 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: to start to see improvement in steady improvement with your 628 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: young quarterback. And right now we're not. We're not seeing that. 629 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: And it's and look, it's hard to see it when 630 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: the reality is you continue to lose. Sometimes you can 631 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: see it when you're losing. But I'm looking hard, and 632 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: I think everybody else is looking hard and trying to 633 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: find some positives in the in the course of losing 634 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: that the development is starting to occur. And and I 635 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: think there's no question that the experience is gonna pay 636 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: huge dividends for him in the future. But you want 637 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 1: to start to see the things that you can touch, 638 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: the things that you can see plainly with your untrained eye, 639 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: performance wise, accuracy wise, the numbers at the end of 640 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: a game, the efficiency, the accuracy, all those things. Trevor 641 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: was at passer at Clemson. He's a fifty eight percent 642 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: passer now. And I understand that the college game is different, 643 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: totally understand that, but you don't expect that kind of 644 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: a drop off. I mean, you know that it's going 645 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: to happen. It's a difficult first year, but wown off. 646 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: And and that's without leven points off. And that's without 647 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: much deep down the field either. It's not like they're 648 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: pushing the bold. And I that's also a thing that 649 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm curious about, is that, Okay, well you lost DJ. 650 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: Well you had other guys that could run, right, I 651 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 1: mean Ken Tavon Austin. Is he fast? Yeah, he supposed 652 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: to be. You had the guy that you got from 653 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: who was with the Chargers last year, Johnson, that you 654 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: he was fast in a straight line. We were we 655 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: were all told he was fast. But when he was active, 656 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: did you see him run fast vertically? No? No, I 657 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: mean I didn't see it. So I think the question 658 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: is is that sometimes even though you don't have the 659 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: guys that maybe you intended to roll out. When I 660 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: say rollout, get him out there on the field and 661 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: have him run deep, you gotta find a way to 662 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: continue to have that aspect to your game because if 663 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: you don't have that aspect of your game, then you're 664 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: essentially condensing the field for the quarter back and for 665 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: the defense, and it makes it harder for the quarterback. 666 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: The quarterback needs to have as much space as he 667 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: possibly can. If you have a vertical element to your offense, 668 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: you create more space and you create more ground that 669 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: a defense has to cover. If you're not running guys 670 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: deep occasionally or often, then you're not making the field. 671 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: Al Davis said it beautifully. He said, you've got to 672 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: You've got to run and have white wide receivers that 673 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: run fast, that run deep. I mean that was when 674 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: he used to have his new coaches come in, he 675 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: would essentially sit them down and tell them. Because Als 676 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: in experienced coach, not just an owner. He knew the 677 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: importance of having a vertical element to a game. Even 678 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners under Bill Walsh had a 679 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 1: had a speed element to their game. Was it all 680 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: the time? No, because it was a controlled passing attack. 681 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 1: But think about John Taylor and how many deep balls 682 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: he caught from John John Montane. So they had a 683 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: vertical element as well. And right now, I'm not I 684 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 1: don't see a big vertical element to this Jaguars offense. 685 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: We'll return and touch on the Jags defense and special 686 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: teams good and bad this past week. Claud's in moments. Well, yeah, 687 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: well we'll give you a couple of moments to ponder 688 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: on that. This is I didn't see a whole lot 689 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: of good. Was the game as a whole a little bit? 690 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: So I want you to point the good out to 691 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: me when we come back. It's just a moment. It's 692 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: the Urban Meyers Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. Welcome back. 693 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: The Urban Meyers Show continues, j P. Shadrick, Jeff Lockerman, 694 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: head go, Jevi Meyer in the first half hour each 695 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: and every Tuesday at five o'clock youo on the Jaguars 696 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: Radio Network. Glad you're along with us. Today. The Jaguars 697 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: fell to the Rams, of course, this past Sunday, thirty 698 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: seven to seven. They're onto the Titans. Next week, the 699 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: first place team in the ANFC South will face off 700 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: in Nashville, Tennessee. And week number four team Quick to Go. 701 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: Do you think the Rams are a super Bowl team? 702 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: It's a good one. The the last three weeks before 703 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: they did not play so well. Um no, I don't. 704 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm kind of interesting. I don't think so. I don't. 705 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see them. I don't see them 706 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: beating Tampa Bay. No, I don't either. And I just said. 707 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 1: The one reason I say that is that when they 708 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: people talk about the star power of the Rams, you 709 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: could try to compare them to so many other top 710 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 1: teams in the NFC, and and do they have players 711 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: across the board I'm comparing to Tampa. I mean, Tampa's 712 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: got thet They got players at many different positions that 713 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: are really good. And Rams have a couple on offense, 714 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: couple on defense that get all the attention. Arizona Arizona 715 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: tennant too are Arizona Green Bay nine and three. Aaron 716 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers angry at the world. That's not a good thing 717 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: for the world is up with him and I don't know, 718 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: but there you go. He was angry at the world. 719 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: Dallas he's motivated, as another way to say that takes 720 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: a lot of himself. And he's pretty good though at 721 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: Dallas is eight and four. I mean, they could be 722 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: in the hunt if they can sustain some things. You 723 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: never know, they get hot. I mean that's if if 724 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: Dallas gets their running game going was Zeke Elliott. Then 725 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: you're and Dak Prescott is rolling. They play and they 726 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: got they just got uh DeMarcus Lawrence back on defense, 727 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: they if they could get rolling, they could be scary. 728 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: Now they could and the last year they were a 729 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: complete the bockle. I mean, just waiting to see what 730 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: word you were going to choose for that. Yeah, I 731 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: wasn't going to use any bad words that we can 732 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 1: see the look it was bad. I mean people were thinking, man, 733 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: this new head coach that we got, what what are 734 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: we doing? Number one thing the Jaguars defense can do 735 00:37:55,120 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: better right now? Defensively, they got to stop the run. 736 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, that's you know, we said this 737 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: before at the beginning of the year that do they 738 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: have the horses to play great past defense? They don't. 739 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: They've got to get enticing. Campbell's helping, you know that 740 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: he's gotten better, but they have to get more top 741 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: end players that can impact the passing game. We you know, 742 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: not to sound cliche is, but we we know this 743 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: is a passing league and it's a league that's gotta 744 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: you gotta have guys that can affect it affect the 745 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: passing game. And right now they don't have enough that 746 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: can do that so much so that they had to 747 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: kind of change their scheme at the almost say midpoint 748 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 1: of the season. But early in the season they started 749 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: to discover that, look, we can't play man coverage very effectively. 750 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: We have to convert more to his own. So now 751 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 1: they're playing more zone. So to be where you want 752 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: to be, which is, okay, let's be a multiple tight 753 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: D defense. We play multiple fronts, we play multiple coverages. 754 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: Then you need to get the talent that's going to 755 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: allow you to do some of that, and you gotta 756 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: get you gotta get another pass rusher. You gotta get 757 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: another guy that can cover. You, gotta find some type 758 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: of guy, some people that can take the ball away. 759 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: You know. Do you have some of those guys on 760 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: the roster and they're just not making an impact because 761 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: they're young, maybe, but right now you're not seeing a 762 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: lot of that, you know. And and you look at 763 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: at this the draft class that the Jaguars have had, 764 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: and you you added, you had a lot of draft picks, 765 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: and are you seeing the impact from the draft class 766 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: on this on this football team this year? You're not so? 767 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: And I'm a little patient with that. And the reason 768 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: I say that is how many draft classes have we 769 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: had in the past where we've gotten overly excited about 770 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 1: in the first year and then all of a sudden 771 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: in years three and four, they're not even anywhere close 772 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: to being where we thought it would be. For example, 773 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: the first draft class the Dave called Wall had with 774 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: Luke jokel and Jonathan Cyprian Sanders A Sanders, I mean, 775 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: we're thinking, yeah, the corner from yukon um yess and 776 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: they all played a significant role in and we were thinking, 777 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: this is a really good draft class. Denard Robinson was 778 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: in that draft, which he's still a part of the organization. 779 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: But my point is is that we probably should have 780 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: given ourselves a speeding ticket there because we were quick 781 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: to say excellent draft, excellent draft, because but then a 782 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: few years later it really wasn't an excellent draft. To 783 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: really find out. Joke was out of the league, Jonathan 784 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: Cyprian was a journeyman safety at best, Dwayne Grotts couldn't 785 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 1: even hold a starting job. A Sanders was out of 786 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: the league, and it knows what it is. So that's 787 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: why I when I say that they haven't gotten a 788 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 1: contribution from this draft class. I'm also quick to point 789 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: out that because I'm also saying, hey, look, you typically 790 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 1: have to wait a couple of years to find out 791 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: the impact of the draft class. Hopefully this draft class 792 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: can start to contribute, because right now they're not. When 793 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 1: we return that special Teams thought, and then some final 794 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: thoughts looking ahead to Tennessee. It's the Urban Meyers Show 795 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: on Jaguars Radio. Welcome back. Final moments of the Urban 796 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: Meyers Show that Jack's head coach joins us in the 797 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: first half hour every week. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Blagaman, 798 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: the Special teams thought. They give up a sixty five 799 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: yard kickoff return. That's bad, not good on the opening 800 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: kickoff of the game. Yeah, not what you want to do. 801 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: And and I will tell you watching some of the 802 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: other uh kickoff situation or the other kickoff situation that 803 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: they had, and they had, they could have had a 804 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: couple of other issues there that you know, when when 805 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: you imagine kickoff coverage is like a garden rake Okay, okay, seriously, 806 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: and if what happens, if you have one time that's 807 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: missing out of that garden, those leaves stay there exactly 808 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: and so that's where the kick return if he finds it, 809 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it can be he's out the gate. 810 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: And with the Jaguars kickoff coverage on that particular play, 811 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: you always have leverage. So think of the returner. He 812 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: always has to be in the middle of all those times. Okay, 813 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 1: so you have the kicker, you don't count him, so 814 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: you've got five times and then five times on the 815 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: other side of the returner. The Jaguars actually got overlapped 816 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: and so they essentially lost their leverage on that play. 817 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: And then out the gate he goes. Unfortunately, you had 818 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: a safety that was there in a situation where you 819 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: could make sure that he didn't go the distance. But 820 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 1: it wasn't a very disciplined kickoff coverage unit. They were 821 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: out of their lanes. Logan Cook five punts average forty 822 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: nine point four. Player of the game was the net 823 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: as well, all five inside the twenty and he is 824 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,439 Speaker 1: among the league leaders in UH net punting average, third 825 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: in the league. Now, he's he's great when he when 826 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: he knows that it's punt team and he gets on 827 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: the field. That's step one. Yes, yes, it is just 828 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: giving him a hard time, But look it's it's it's 829 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 1: never good when you're punter. Is the player of the game, Okay, 830 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: I know that you and Fred and Mike do a 831 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: player of the game past game? Who was It was him? 832 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: It was literally him. I didn't know that because I 833 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: didn't have a chance. That's not good. So it happens 834 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: when you lose by thirty and only score seven. Well, 835 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: and I can tell you, Jackie, you know, I always 836 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: have my little book and I always okay, And this 837 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: color coded. What colors do you see? The predominant color 838 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: A lot of yellow, of yellow. Blue would be the Jaguas. 839 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 1: And they're was essentially besides besides just their possession being blue, 840 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 1: there was one positive field position and two positive plays 841 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 1: on the one coin drop. Other than that nothing alright, Well, 842 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: they've got a week to figure it out. They're going 843 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: to Tennessee this week to face the Titans. Thanks for 844 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: our entire crew for Jeff Logerman and head coach Urban Meyer, 845 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: and I'm J. P. Shadrick. This is the Urban Meyers 846 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.