WEBVTT - Jay & Radhi Talk About Icks vs. Red Flags (How to ACTUALLY Know the Difference)

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<v Speaker 1>One of my biggest X is when they like wake

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<v Speaker 1>up in their confused.

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<v Speaker 2>If they play games on their phone.

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<v Speaker 3>When he posts on social media, grown men should have

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<v Speaker 3>wear earrings. Don't message me saying when am I taking you?

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<v Speaker 4>How seriously should people take X?

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<v Speaker 3>They should be seen as more of a funny thing,

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<v Speaker 3>not something that actually puts them off their partner.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you ever get over an ick?

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<v Speaker 3>The more you like someone, the more you'll find the executor.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone is going to have something that gives you the ich.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember one of my X was at the beginning

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<v Speaker 3>when we were dating. Come on, we used to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Hey.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone, welcome back to On Purpose with Jay Shehady with

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<v Speaker 4>my favorite person in the world rather than Lucia, And

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<v Speaker 4>we're diving into topics about things that we talk about,

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<v Speaker 4>things that we hear about from friends and family, things

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<v Speaker 4>that you could talk about on the long car journey

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<v Speaker 4>after a long day at work, or maybe while you're

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<v Speaker 4>out at dinner and you want to have a chat

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<v Speaker 4>about what's going on. So today's topic is all.

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<v Speaker 3>About X X, good old X.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like the concept of X didn't exist when

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<v Speaker 4>we were dating. No, or maybe they existed, but they

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<v Speaker 4>didn't have that language. And if anyone's wondering, because you've

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<v Speaker 4>been sleeping under a rock, what an ick is? The

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<v Speaker 4>term ick refers to a sudden turn off or something

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<v Speaker 4>that instantly kills attraction.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh, that's a harsh time.

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<v Speaker 4>These aren't always rational, and they can vary culturally and individually,

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<v Speaker 4>but there are common patterns reported in dating conversations, social media,

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<v Speaker 4>and psychological observations. Wow, so official, when did you first

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<v Speaker 4>discover what X were?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know when, but I feel like now that

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<v Speaker 3>it's got a name to I appreciate it because I

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<v Speaker 3>felt X my whole life.

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<v Speaker 4>Really Yeah, what like when you were dating back in

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<v Speaker 4>the day. Yeah, you never dated anyone apart from me?

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<v Speaker 3>What it's definitely I definitely felt X throughout my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I've probably felt a few X with you. What do

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<v Speaker 3>you mean we talk about this? What we've had X?

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<v Speaker 3>So many X? But X doesn't mean that you don't

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<v Speaker 3>love someone, right, It just means you're like, oh, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you know, don't do that around me?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? You have X with me with me?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, is this about us? We're just having a general

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<v Speaker 3>conversation about X. Guys, No, they came. The topic came

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<v Speaker 3>about because we were in a car journey with my cousins.

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<v Speaker 3>We were on our way back from the Drake concert.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a long journey and somehow we came onto

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<v Speaker 3>the topic of X within our relationships, but then also

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<v Speaker 3>just generally. You know, there's a man with the ick list,

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<v Speaker 3>which the.

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<v Speaker 4>Girl that's mine, that's my favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy with the guy with the list.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I love it. If you don't follow guy with

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<v Speaker 4>the list, I have no idea who he is.

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<v Speaker 3>He is hilarious, he's brilliant, and he just like he

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<v Speaker 3>finds all these things that women say, oh men say,

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<v Speaker 3>are X about men and women, and he puts them

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<v Speaker 3>onto a really really long list. So we started getting

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<v Speaker 3>into it, and let me tell you, we came up

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<v Speaker 3>with some crazy easy ones. One of my cousins said

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<v Speaker 3>that she thinks it's icky when her husband uses an

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<v Speaker 3>indicator in the car. I don't even know how that's

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<v Speaker 3>an egg, but that was.

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<v Speaker 4>An egg because reasoning I don't remember. She said that

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't feel masculine.

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<v Speaker 3>That'scular enough. Yes. Someone else that I spoke to said

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<v Speaker 3>that she finds it really icky when her husband cries.

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<v Speaker 3>That's terrible, so not nice, but also just so funny

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<v Speaker 3>that people put down the eck list. Well, okay, it's

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<v Speaker 3>obviously funny, but there's also a little bit of meanness

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<v Speaker 3>and depth to it. That people get turned off so

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<v Speaker 3>easily these days, and I think it's really sometimes just

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<v Speaker 3>by getting an inch, they won't go on a second day.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, should we start off by reading some

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<v Speaker 3>really funny it's okay, so oh, when they run after

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<v Speaker 3>a receipt that's blown away in the wind.

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<v Speaker 4>That does that.

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<v Speaker 3>When they hold a limp umbrella in a strong wind,

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<v Speaker 3>When they run with the backpack on and it bounces

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<v Speaker 3>side to side, that's a really good one. I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>When they when they try to get out of a

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<v Speaker 3>bean bag chair and it takes a full twelve seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>When they walk, when they call a waiter over but

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<v Speaker 3>they walk right past them. These are all very good ones.

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<v Speaker 3>There are some other really funny ones. They do what else?

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<v Speaker 3>What else do we say in the car? That was

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<v Speaker 3>really funny. I don't remember when they have allergies. That's

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<v Speaker 3>so rude. When you're driving and they grab the bar. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>when you are the driver, when the girl's the driver

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<v Speaker 3>and the guy gets scared and holds holds the side

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<v Speaker 3>of the car. That's icky. When they get cassick.

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<v Speaker 4>I get cassick. That's not it. It's a really bad

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<v Speaker 4>thing to go through.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, when they wear no show socks, no, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>agree with that. There's little panty liner socks. They are awful.

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<v Speaker 3>The phonge socks is what we should call them? Awful? Awful?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that what you have to say?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look, I think X a fair, but I also

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<v Speaker 3>think that they should be more seen as more of

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<v Speaker 3>a funny thing, not something that actually puts them off

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<v Speaker 3>their partner.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you should end up becoming something that's endearing,

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<v Speaker 4>Like you should go from thinking it's an it to

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<v Speaker 4>finding it a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>You remember. I remember one of my ex was at

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning when we were dating, when you used to

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<v Speaker 3>do that baby voice with your mum and your sister.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I cannot even hear it. Go and

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<v Speaker 3>do it, please don't anyone else. You do know it though,

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<v Speaker 3>and sister Suddenly I was in a room with all

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<v Speaker 3>three of them and they're all doing this weird baby

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<v Speaker 3>voice to each other. I was like, where am I

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<v Speaker 3>and what is happening?

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<v Speaker 4>Please? Just don't want no I don't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to show them to say.

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<v Speaker 4>I literally don't do it anymore because you.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually don't do it that much. But you know what

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<v Speaker 3>you should be who you want to be.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't do that anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>But just don't do that voice around me?

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<v Speaker 4>What what? What about you? But no, what are about you?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know at the beginning?

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<v Speaker 4>Being late? Yeah, that is an ick. That is a

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<v Speaker 4>massive itch for me when people really massive. You can't

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<v Speaker 4>be late.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been your whole life then, mate.

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<v Speaker 4>Basically what else skinny jeans?

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<v Speaker 3>Skinny jeans are a skinny gee. I was just checking

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<v Speaker 3>up up your jographers skin me gee before I said it.

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<v Speaker 3>Skinny jeans, big ick.

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<v Speaker 4>Now they are At one point they were fashionable. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what it is about X, that there was a time

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<v Speaker 4>when the IK could have been fashionable. Like I know

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<v Speaker 4>one of our friends, her sister doesn't like men who

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<v Speaker 4>are jewelry.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>So That's what I'm trying to understand, is like, how

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<v Speaker 4>seriously should people take X.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I think they should be taken with a

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<v Speaker 3>pinch of salt, you know. I don't think you should

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<v Speaker 3>take them too seriously. But I think if there are

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<v Speaker 3>too many. As you know, they're not going to find

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<v Speaker 3>that person attractive. That's the problem. So either you have

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<v Speaker 3>to work on your tolerance and what you find it key.

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe some things like you're not wanting your husband

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<v Speaker 3>to cry in front of that may be therapy that's required.

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<v Speaker 3>Not gonna lie, you may need to really work on that.

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<v Speaker 3>But other things like you know, flip flops with socks,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, give a bit of leeway. Maybe just choose

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<v Speaker 3>the shoes for your partner the next time they go out.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, I'm going to read out a list of

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<v Speaker 4>it's and we have to decide on a scale of

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<v Speaker 4>one to ten how bad they're okay, all right?

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<v Speaker 3>Or do we do it? Yes or no? Is an

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<v Speaker 3>itch or not?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? All right? Chewing with their mouth open, the ick

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<v Speaker 4>for sure, Clapping when the plane lands. I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, it's appreciated, really.

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<v Speaker 4>Happy when a plane lands.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Not washing their hands after the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, that is all around it. That's not subjective.

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<v Speaker 4>Asking to split a bill.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's anick. But then I you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I like being a self sufficient woman.

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<v Speaker 4>As a man, I always wanted to pick up the bill.

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<v Speaker 4>I always did when we were dating originally as well,

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<v Speaker 4>like there's always something that I've wanted to do, and

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<v Speaker 4>so to.

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<v Speaker 3>Me, that's not a nick for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, talking in a baby voice.

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<v Speaker 3>As a grown ass man. Absolute egg, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Get it now. Using too many hashtags.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, and I'm using too many emojis as

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<v Speaker 3>a no ick, being.

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<v Speaker 4>Too obsessed with astrology, like blaming everything on being a Gemini.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's a bit of a Nike that.

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<v Speaker 4>Taking mirror selfies at the gym, Well, okay, no, shall

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<v Speaker 4>tell you what.

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<v Speaker 3>There's this girl that I've been seeing at the gym lately.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Wow, her body's amazing. She must work

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<v Speaker 3>so hard. I swear I'm not seeing them lift one

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<v Speaker 3>way in the gym. All she does is coming to

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<v Speaker 3>the gym in beautiful outfits. She looks amazing, takes pictures

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<v Speaker 3>and leaves so. Yes, if you're taking pictures off t

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<v Speaker 3>having done a hard workout, not a nick. If you're

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<v Speaker 3>coming to the gym in a cute outfit just to

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<v Speaker 3>take pictures without doing a workout or another inch when

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<v Speaker 3>the man looks in the mirror more than you do it.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't have that problem, obviously, poor grammar in texts

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<v Speaker 4>you're hot instead of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Are hot, air guitar when a guy doesn't air guitar,

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<v Speaker 3>or like fake golf, Oh my god, no? Or finger

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<v Speaker 3>guns oh no.

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<v Speaker 4>Leaving voice notes that are four plus minutes long. Massive

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<v Speaker 4>it you not leave.

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<v Speaker 3>Me me and my friends do that.

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<v Speaker 4>I hate it, but maybe just such a waste of time.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, so, I really wanted to tell you this,

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't want this to be long. But I've

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<v Speaker 4>been thinking about this, and I'm thinking about one friend

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<v Speaker 4>that does it.

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<v Speaker 3>Drinks cow's milk in a glass, drinks cow's milk. Will stop.

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<v Speaker 4>Using phrases like let that sink in too? Seriously?

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<v Speaker 3>Cause women females? Is your biology teacher?

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<v Speaker 4>My god? All right? Obsessing over a celebrity like they

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<v Speaker 4>know them personally.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>When I have friends that refer to celebrities by their

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<v Speaker 4>first who don't know is an it? Referring to their

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<v Speaker 4>ex is crazy with no context? You're okay with that?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh gosh, So let's help people. Let's think about X.

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<v Speaker 4>What's our take?

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<v Speaker 3>My take is that you should give Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, it's a bad question. Yeah, do you ever get

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<v Speaker 4>over a ick? Can you get over it? Like, did

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<v Speaker 4>you get over the ick of me talking a baby voice?

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<v Speaker 4>Or did I have to stop doing it?

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<v Speaker 3>Mixture of both. I think the more you like someone,

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<v Speaker 3>the less you'll find like the more you'll find the executor. However,

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<v Speaker 3>there are just some things that you're going to have

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<v Speaker 3>the other person's going to have to just stop doing

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<v Speaker 3>if they've their partner finds it icky more than three times.

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<v Speaker 4>So how do you tell someone, Hey, I have an

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<v Speaker 4>ick about this, and I think that's the reason I

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<v Speaker 4>haven't been texting you. That's the reason I haven't been

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<v Speaker 4>How do you do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Chur GPT will give you a really great answer for that. No,

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<v Speaker 3>but seriously, yeah, how would you do it? I think

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<v Speaker 3>I think it could be really honest in saying that

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<v Speaker 3>I really like you as a person, but when you

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<v Speaker 3>wear socks and sandals, it really upsets me because I

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy fashion and that to me it doesn't look like fashion.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would love to go shoe shopping with you, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and help you find shoes that really work well with

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<v Speaker 3>those socks. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember the scene in Nobody Wants This? Do you

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<v Speaker 4>remember that show? So with what's his Name? Adam Brody

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<v Speaker 4>and Kristen Bell and there's a scene where he comes over,

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<v Speaker 4>but he's wearing shorts with the blazer. Yeah, and she's

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<v Speaker 4>got the biggest it. Really, he's wearing shorts with the blazer,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like the whole episode is like her spiraling

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<v Speaker 4>thinking he's not the guy. I can't believe it. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to break up with it. It's a massive thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I think she tells him about it, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think that is the reality of if you flag

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<v Speaker 4>it to someone, what happens when that person says, well,

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<v Speaker 4>this is who I am. Is that the end?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It depends how much that person really,

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<v Speaker 3>how invested you are in that person. I do think

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<v Speaker 3>when they're when you're when you're basing dating someone off

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<v Speaker 3>a few eggs and this is really putting you off

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<v Speaker 3>to the point where you don't really want to be

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<v Speaker 3>seen with them and want to hang out with them,

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<v Speaker 3>or it just every time you're seeing them you're feeling icky.

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably a sign that the if there's a few

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<v Speaker 3>too many for you to be able to handle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean me icked out every every day.

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<v Speaker 4>For sure, But you've also got to know what your

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<v Speaker 4>basic level of standards are too because everyone is going

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<v Speaker 4>to have something that gives you the ick, and you're

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<v Speaker 4>not dating the ick. You date a person who is

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<v Speaker 4>like do they respond, do they show up, do they call?

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<v Speaker 4>Do they check in? Like that's what you're doing. You're

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<v Speaker 4>not dating the person whose backpack bounces when they run,

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't give them a different bag tie in their back.

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<v Speaker 4>That you don't have to watch that every day. Like

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<v Speaker 4>that's not your life, you know what I mean? Like

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<v Speaker 4>I think, I think today people find ix to get

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<v Speaker 4>out of something they want to get out of.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like, it's like it's an easy reason.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's an easy reason. It's a scapegoat. It's uh,

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<v Speaker 4>it's something you used to justify why you don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to be with someone. You just aren't attracted to them,

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<v Speaker 4>You just aren't into them, and you don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>say that, so you end up coming up with this

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<v Speaker 4>ick that justifies why you don't want to be them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think, so, I think, And it is a

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<v Speaker 3>good easy way.

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<v Speaker 4>Out, Yeah for sure. Jared Freed, who hosts the U

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<v Speaker 4>Up podcast, Who's a mate of mine. He says that

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<v Speaker 4>men like an itch would never stop a man from

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<v Speaker 4>dating someone if they like someone, they like someone doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>matter even if there's an ick. But from women it's

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<v Speaker 4>actually a lot more serious. Do you agree, I think so? Why?

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<v Speaker 3>But then I think I wonder if, okay, let's say

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<v Speaker 3>a girl's got a bad breath, is that not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be an ick for a guy. No, of course

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<v Speaker 3>it is, but it won't stop her him from dating.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. So that's the question for Jared right there.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure, like I I mean, for me, to me,

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<v Speaker 4>that's more than a nick. To me, that's just bad

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<v Speaker 4>I gene. I'm like, that's like a base something else. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 4>that's like a basic human thing that you'd want from everyone,

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<v Speaker 4>let alone the person.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true, right, it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think women definitely are potentially pickier. I'd say maybe

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<v Speaker 3>things like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting. Well, I got up here the top five x

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<v Speaker 4>women commonly have about men. Lack of hygiene or grooming.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wait, the women have about men.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, dirty nails, bad breath, or unkept hair can instantly

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<v Speaker 4>kill attraction. Wow, Smelling bad or being generally unkept ranks

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<v Speaker 4>high end surveys. However, I would say I know a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of friends who are with guys who don't smell

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<v Speaker 4>great and they're oh interesting. Number two is x that

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<v Speaker 4>women have about men. Over confidence or cockiness, dominating gradations,

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<v Speaker 4>or acting like I know it all is often perceived

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<v Speaker 4>as insecurity masked as arrogance.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that. That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's talk about that. What is the difference between confidence

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<v Speaker 4>and cockiness and confidence and arrogance? For you?

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<v Speaker 3>I think arrogance is when you are trying to prove

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<v Speaker 3>to someone that what you're worth, is when you're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to prove to someone that you are better than something

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<v Speaker 3>else or someone else. And I think confidence is, you know, confidence.

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<v Speaker 3>I just find it is so much quieter. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>you just show up with energy. That is, you are

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<v Speaker 3>supporting your own self. You're not trying to put other

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<v Speaker 3>people down in trying to make yourself look better. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the time with arrogance, people are trying to

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<v Speaker 3>put other people down or they're acting in a way

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<v Speaker 3>that feels superior. I think that's the difference. Arrogance is superiority.

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<v Speaker 3>Confidence is being able to carry yourself with respect for yourself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think you really see the difference when people

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<v Speaker 3>are talking acting how they act towards other people, how

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<v Speaker 3>they act towards you, the things that they say in conversation,

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<v Speaker 3>even on a day, Like, it's so obvious when someone

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<v Speaker 3>is cocky, and usually cockiness comes from insecurity.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I definitely think over confidence arrogance is a

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<v Speaker 4>turn off for everyone, exactly conversation. It's not endearing, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not impressive. You switch off really really quickly. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 4>makes a lot of sense. Number three is immaturity or

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<v Speaker 4>childish behavior. This includes playing too many video games, making

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<v Speaker 4>crude jokes, or being emotionally unavailable or avoiding. Those are

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<v Speaker 4>all X for women like serious X.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the childish behavior. It's interesting because I

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<v Speaker 3>think some women actually, depending on what traumas they've been

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<v Speaker 3>through when they've been younger, babying a man is what

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<v Speaker 3>they've been used to, or interesting they are attracted to interesting,

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<v Speaker 3>a man to save, a man to look after, a

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<v Speaker 3>man to care for. So I actually see a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more women, well, I see a lot of powerful women

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<v Speaker 3>ending up with people like that where they have to

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<v Speaker 3>look after them.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>But I can understand why it should be a turn off,

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't want to be mothering your boyfriend or

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<v Speaker 3>your partner.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it's really interesting. I think sometimes women

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<v Speaker 4>get into relationships hoping the man will change, yes, and

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<v Speaker 4>men get into relationships hoping the women will never change.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's so true.

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<v Speaker 4>What ends up happening is that the man doesn't change

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<v Speaker 4>and the woman does. So it's the opposite of what

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<v Speaker 4>you wanted. And when you get into relationship with a

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<v Speaker 4>guy who plays video games, he's not just going to

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<v Speaker 4>stop playing video games the moment you get married. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what he does, and you're not going to change that

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<v Speaker 4>about him. And I think that's what's so interesting about

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<v Speaker 4>these its is that if something really affects you, you

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<v Speaker 4>should know it's less likely to change than more likely,

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<v Speaker 4>especially if it's something conditioned and deeply a part of

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<v Speaker 4>their life, right. And so if something does affect you

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<v Speaker 4>why does this trigger me so much? And am I

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<v Speaker 4>giving one word replies or ghosting creates a feeling of

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<v Speaker 4>unreliability and emotional distance.

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<v Speaker 3>See. I think there's a difference between X now and

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<v Speaker 3>what makes someone feel secure in the relationship, because that's

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<v Speaker 3>a big security part of a relationship, where if you

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<v Speaker 3>feel confused about where you stand, if the person and

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<v Speaker 3>isn't communicating in a way that makes you feel wanted,

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<v Speaker 3>that actually breaths in security in a relationship. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think that more than an ICH, that is probably a

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<v Speaker 3>serious and itch to me is something that's not a

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<v Speaker 3>serious problem. An it to me is something slightly silly

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<v Speaker 3>that your mind's fixated on, but you know there is

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of humor to it. Whereas this doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 3>like an itch, it seems like more of a serious

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<v Speaker 3>issue because you don't know where you stand in the relationship,

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<v Speaker 3>and that you have to know the difference between an

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<v Speaker 3>ICH and something that is actually fundamental.

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<v Speaker 4>That's really interesting because usually we overvalue an inch and

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<v Speaker 4>we undervalue a fundamental so red flag. If someone runs

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<v Speaker 4>with their backpack bouncing, we think, oh my gosh, they're

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<v Speaker 4>so unattractive, but if someone doesn't reply, you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>they must be busy, right, So we make excuses for

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<v Speaker 4>the fundamentals, but we over amplify X, which is a

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<v Speaker 4>really weird thing in our mind.

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<v Speaker 3>And why do we do it like that?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's so true.

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<v Speaker 4>It's such an interesting thing. Like I feel like so

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<v Speaker 4>many people are like I just can't deal with the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that he wears you know, ankle socks or whatever

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<v Speaker 4>it is. And it's like, well, wait a minute, that

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<v Speaker 4>guy replies to every message, that guy shows up when

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<v Speaker 4>he says he's going to show up, But the guy

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<v Speaker 4>who's really attractive doesn't show up on time, doesn't message

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<v Speaker 4>you back. But even though he has all of that,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't care. No, why do we do that? Why

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<v Speaker 4>do we justify people's bad behavior? I ultimately think it's

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<v Speaker 4>because when you're attracted to someone, when you're into someone,

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<v Speaker 4>you will justify anything they do because you're just so

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<v Speaker 4>excited about the fact that that person might be into you,

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<v Speaker 4>if someone shows you attention, if someone cares about you.

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<v Speaker 4>But if someone is someone that you don't find that attractive,

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<v Speaker 4>isn't your type, even if they're like the kindest and

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<v Speaker 4>nicest person. You don't care, don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually reading something what was it? This morning?

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<v Speaker 3>It came up on my Instagram that when you end

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<v Speaker 3>up being a little bit obsessed with someone, your actual

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<v Speaker 3>physiology in your mind changes so that even the things

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<v Speaker 3>that you would normally find unattractive, you find attractive in them,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if in a toxic relationship. When it's a toxic

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<v Speaker 3>relationshiphere things are up and down. Apparently the hormones in

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<v Speaker 3>your body, the chemicals in your mind end up finding

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<v Speaker 3>even the things that are absolutely grotesque your body. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>even if the person has bad breath, you don't smell

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<v Speaker 3>the bad breath.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if the person you get used to, even their

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<v Speaker 3>smell and the way that they speak, and everything that

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<v Speaker 3>you normally find disgusting in someone else that other people

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<v Speaker 3>may even notice, you don't. That's why it's so funny,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when you end up seeing someone that your

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<v Speaker 3>friends dated, and you're like, how in the world, especially

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<v Speaker 3>if they weren't a good person, and they see maybe

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<v Speaker 3>physically they don't match either. It's like that shallow haliffect

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<v Speaker 3>where the person is literally seeing a completely different version

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<v Speaker 3>to the person that they actually are.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fascinating. That is so true as well so true?

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<v Speaker 4>Or I want to go through the list of the

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<v Speaker 4>top five x men have about women? Number one open,

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<v Speaker 4>Can I say one more thing?

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, for example, I remember I really disliked smoking

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<v Speaker 3>when I was growing up, but then I remember thinking

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<v Speaker 3>this guy my college was really attractive, but he was

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<v Speaker 3>a smoker, and at that point I was like, oh wow,

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<v Speaker 3>I actually like the smell of I was around the

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<v Speaker 3>smell of smoke so much I ended up thinking I

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<v Speaker 3>liked the smell of smoke, even though I absolutely despise smoking.

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<v Speaker 3>And my friends have said the same thing. When they've

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<v Speaker 3>dated people who drink alcohol, or when they've dated people

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<v Speaker 3>smoked weed. They absolutely hate it, would never do it themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>But because they were obsessed with that person or thought

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<v Speaker 3>that person was, suddenly what they do becomes attractive.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why that's so interesting. Yeah, And that's why it's

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<v Speaker 4>so important to choose someone in your life that actually

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<v Speaker 4>has the habits and things you want, because you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to be influenced impacted even if you don't want to.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I didn't want to do it. I just my

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<v Speaker 3>mind shifted towards right.

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<v Speaker 4>If you had stayed with that person or whatever that

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<v Speaker 4>slowly would become your lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Maybe so interesting the fact that your mind can

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<v Speaker 3>shift something you really don't like just because someone that

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<v Speaker 3>you like does it. Opposite of X.

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<v Speaker 4>Top five X men commonly have about women. Number one

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<v Speaker 4>overly superficial behavior talking only about appearances, name dropping, or

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<v Speaker 4>obsessing over social media and selfies. Yeah, I yeah, it's frustrating.

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<v Speaker 3>I love a good sealthie.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you do. I am your Instagram husband and

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<v Speaker 4>I never get a photo credit.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever, you don't if you once you're married, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>need photocrad. It's just part of the relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Okay, Yeah, that's an ick. And number two playing

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<v Speaker 4>mind games, being intentionally vague, manipulative, or using passive aggressive.

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<v Speaker 3>Text the fundamental Yeah, that's not an it. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like that's a fundamental issue.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Number three entitlement or materialism, expecting to be spoiled

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<v Speaker 4>without reciprocation, or judging people based on money, status or possession.

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<v Speaker 3>Some guys like that, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because guys like it gives them the ability princess

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<v Speaker 4>with some relationships like that, because then it becomes an

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<v Speaker 4>easy way of showing status. Or an easy way of

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<v Speaker 4>showing prowess. Yeah, I don't love that, though I'm a

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<v Speaker 4>fan of that number four being overly dramatic or constantly

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<v Speaker 4>negative that, oh my god, that's exactly it. I struggled

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<v Speaker 4>with that a lot. I felt like I dated a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people who were like that all the time,

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<v Speaker 4>really but really small things, and I felt like I

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<v Speaker 4>had constantly guess what their mood was going to be.

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<v Speaker 4>And that is not an it, it's a big fundamental

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<v Speaker 4>but it was really challenging to feel, as a teenager,

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<v Speaker 4>to feel you had to be the emotional regulator someone

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<v Speaker 4>else's emotion too much I do, which is really really hard.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's a difference between being patient, being compassionate, being kind,

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<v Speaker 4>and then literally someone asking you to be their emotional

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<v Speaker 4>regulator and then yeh. Fifth and finally, lack of accountability,

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<v Speaker 4>blaming others forever everything, never admitting when they're wrong, or

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<v Speaker 4>constantly playing the video.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all like serious.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's quite a strong list. Actually, yeah, because the

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<v Speaker 4>guy with the list comes up with much easiert.

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<v Speaker 3>You pull up some guy with the list stuff just yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do it, let's do this, let's do it. Guy

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<v Speaker 4>with the list. We love you, we love you. Don't

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<v Speaker 4>send her an Instagram reel.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it? Okay, nexs.

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<v Speaker 5>You know when you go to an event and you

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<v Speaker 5>leave early, like, I will never understand those sort of people,

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<v Speaker 5>Like you've literally paid money, send.

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<v Speaker 3>An hour or two of your life.

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<v Speaker 5>To go and watch this event, but you would rather

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<v Speaker 5>leave twenty minutes early or ten percent to beat the

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<v Speaker 5>traffic back. What else is that urgent that you need

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<v Speaker 5>to get home for rather than the thing that you

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<v Speaker 5>hate to go and see? Like that will know that

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<v Speaker 5>was made just to beat.

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<v Speaker 4>The true that's you with me? You are that she

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<v Speaker 4>has an eck with you. Yeah, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>these visuals. I'm sorry to say. If you're a man

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<v Speaker 4>and you haven't I pad take it back?

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<v Speaker 2>It is so iy.

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<v Speaker 4>Why do you have an iPad that book? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what if a guy's got iPad mini, No,

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<v Speaker 3>a little iPad mini. They could fit in one hand.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 3>No, there's something.

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<v Speaker 4>Cheaper than the bigger iPad.

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<v Speaker 3>Mini anything like in the like you know, like a

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<v Speaker 3>small phone. I've just some larger New Egg.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me why I was your at the dog park

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<v Speaker 1>and I met the cutest guy he the sweetest little dog.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the middle of our conversation he started screaming

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<v Speaker 1>his dog's name, calling him five ten times. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why, but in that moment he just became

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<v Speaker 1>so unattractive to me.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, like, I just I got my dog and I left.

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<v Speaker 3>These girls are amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't scream at your dog. In the dog book, He's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 4>No wonder everyone's single.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm. It's rough a.

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<v Speaker 2>The worst text to send the girl the morning text,

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, sweetheart, how are you doing. Hope you slept well.

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<v Speaker 2>You're basically saying you're a sin. That text is not masculine.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not a good text. It shows needy. It

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<v Speaker 2>just shows that like, oh, I was thinking about you

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<v Speaker 2>and I was hoping your morning was going well. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not what you want to come across. As always, always remember,

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<v Speaker 2>texting is only to set up the dates. Men fall

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<v Speaker 2>into this trap of sending good morning texts, sending texts

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<v Speaker 2>like hey, how was your week, and wanting to talk

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<v Speaker 2>and have these big ol have a conversation over text.

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<v Speaker 2>For what happens is you call into friend zone or

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<v Speaker 2>you become prepenter.

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<v Speaker 3>No morning text.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, it's rough out. There for guys.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's a lot. I think the takeaway is know

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<v Speaker 4>the difference between X and fundamentals. Yes, don't overvalue X

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<v Speaker 4>and undervalue fundamentals. And ultimately we all have X. We

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<v Speaker 4>all have Even the person you marry, you'll have X

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<v Speaker 4>with and you can still love each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can. Thank you so much for watching. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a lovely, little funny episode.

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<v Speaker 4>Wasn't it spontaneous?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>We love a good ic. We do, don't we.

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<v Speaker 3>It actually calms your nervous systems.

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<v Speaker 4>Just hold hands as you're having the conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so lovely.