WEBVTT - A Catagory 5 S-Storm

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>Arm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 1>We were in a race with some very sick people.

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<v Speaker 1>They're liars, they just lie, They lie about everything. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to hit her really hard on the

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<v Speaker 1>trail today, but now I don't have to because she's off.

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<v Speaker 1>She's off.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I can't get off for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Who the hell takes off?

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<v Speaker 1>You have fourteen days left, and she'll take a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of more days off too.

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<v Speaker 4>You know why.

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<v Speaker 1>She's lazy as hell, and she's got that reputation.

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<v Speaker 5>It is curious, according to a lot of democratic strategies

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<v Speaker 5>on the left, why she doesn't have a more packed schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't actually know.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, she's got some really smart people running her campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they have decided that.

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<v Speaker 5>In the modern world, that whole traveling around hitting rallies

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't do you any good.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't know what their theory is.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it could be, if I'm going to be fair,

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<v Speaker 6>it could be they have some research, some theory of

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<v Speaker 6>the case that that it doesn't do any good, although

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<v Speaker 6>I would need to have that explain to me because

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<v Speaker 6>they still do a fair amount of it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a much lighter schedule.

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<v Speaker 6>She is kind of famously not into doing the work

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<v Speaker 6>unless she has to.

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<v Speaker 3>Unless that work. I'm not going to say that.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh oh oh, I'll bet I know where you were going.

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<v Speaker 6>You were gonna mention Willie Brown, weredn't you You're gonna mention,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, getting ahead the hard way. Weren't you a

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<v Speaker 6>rare pullback for me? Sexist pig even thinking it is

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<v Speaker 6>sin enough for me?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Katie, you want some of that? It's like, wait

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, we're going over going.

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<v Speaker 3>I can help you go there anytime.

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<v Speaker 6>We're hitting Kamalan being a hell hard working gal.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I heard I heard a great joke that

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<v Speaker 5>Kamala got mixed up that she worked at McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 3>She actually worked at five Guys and in and out.

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<v Speaker 5>O no o, No, that's just that's over the line appropriate.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish it hadn't been on our show.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, and uh if perhaps at the you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the places where the powerful gathered in Sacramento. She was

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<v Speaker 6>well known to many of the clientele because she's a

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<v Speaker 6>stunning conversationalist and not not anything like Katie was inting at.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, where were we?

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<v Speaker 6>Ah, So as Kamala inexplicably takes the day off, which

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<v Speaker 6>is utterly unprecedent, jd Vance is working the interview circuit

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<v Speaker 6>and doing interviews and the rest of it. Uh. He

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<v Speaker 6>was talking to THEO Vaughn, whose name I didn't recognize

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<v Speaker 6>at all. He's a media personality. I guess he got

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<v Speaker 6>a start on the real world on MTV. Nothing it

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<v Speaker 6>matters he did.

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<v Speaker 5>He he's been a stand up comedian in his whole life,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's like hugely successful stand up comedian. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>like at the top tier, like you know with here

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<v Speaker 5>John Mulaney and right and Louis c k. I mean

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<v Speaker 5>he's in that category. Yeah, And you know, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just reading I think it was the Wall

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<v Speaker 5>Street Journal. I was talking about this gallery whose name

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<v Speaker 5>I don't recall. But she got her start on one

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<v Speaker 5>of those MTV Teenaged and Pregnant shows or something like that,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. And now she's a social media influencer

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<v Speaker 5>and publishing influencer with millions of followers, and she does

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<v Speaker 5>book reviews and like a book club and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 5>and she's now super influential. So you know, where people

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<v Speaker 5>get to their start to me is way overstated. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>they had a nose for the media or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 5>they started here and now they're there. The money in

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<v Speaker 5>podcasting is interesting. I mean, we're in podcasting. But I

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<v Speaker 5>saw Louis c k on Theobonn's podcast a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>years ago and he said, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't believe you're doing this as much as you are.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, is the money that much better than being

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<v Speaker 5>one of the biggest comedians in America?

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<v Speaker 3>And he didn't really answer that question, but it must be.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, and you just you don't have to travel

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<v Speaker 6>constantly tru which is nice. One of the reasons I

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<v Speaker 6>got into radio, honestly was I thought, Wow, I can

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<v Speaker 6>do that sort of thing and not have to hit

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<v Speaker 6>the road all the time. Anyway, so Jade Vance is

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<v Speaker 6>hitting the road. He was talking to seovon the other

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<v Speaker 6>day and that thought. As usual, he made a fabulous,

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<v Speaker 6>articulate case for you know, the right side of the aisle.

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<v Speaker 7>We's start with seventy Michael and see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 7>The other thing that people don't realize about the cartels.

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<v Speaker 7>Man is is one we're talking about some very dark

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<v Speaker 7>and dangerous people. Like this is not some guy who's

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<v Speaker 7>like dealing, you know, selling joints on a college campus.

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<v Speaker 7>These are like they're doing sex trafficking. They're they're they're

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<v Speaker 7>they're they're getting eleven ten year old girls involved in

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<v Speaker 7>the sex trade. Yeah, they're like very evil people, dictator

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<v Speaker 7>type of which is absolutely vile. And it's it's like,

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<v Speaker 7>why why are we making it easier for these this

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<v Speaker 7>like massive criminal organizations to get richer and richer and richer,

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<v Speaker 7>Like we should be trying to make him poor.

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<v Speaker 6>That is I hear to make the point with kind

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<v Speaker 6>of different verbiage in a more formal setting, But he

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<v Speaker 6>was talking about how if we enabled them to profit

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<v Speaker 6>mightily from the coyote business, the you know, the human trafficking,

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<v Speaker 6>sex trafficking, all those terms we've talked about this many

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<v Speaker 6>times have not made it more clear what's happening. They

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<v Speaker 6>make it less clear, Like you know, a pat on

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<v Speaker 6>the butt and forcible rape for both sexual assault, that

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't illuminate that the clouds using that term anyway. But

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<v Speaker 6>when we enrich them and give them more power, they

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<v Speaker 6>further disrupt Mexico, they import more fentanyl, they slaughter more politicians,

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<v Speaker 6>and get more and more power in Mexico. It could

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<v Speaker 6>be argued that we ought to do whatever opposes the cartels,

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<v Speaker 6>even if it would.

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<v Speaker 2>Do us good to go along with them. The fact

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<v Speaker 2>that it's it's not.

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<v Speaker 6>It's doing us damage to quote unquote go along with

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<v Speaker 6>them by opening up the.

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<v Speaker 2>Borders and it empowers them. It's just obscene.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't get me started on propping up social security and

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<v Speaker 6>the rest of it another day, perhaps rolling on.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it's also it's obviously one of the biggest enemies,

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<v Speaker 8>that's right. It's like if there were an enemy that

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<v Speaker 8>were killing if somebody, if there were somebody shooting in

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<v Speaker 8>your country every day and killing people, at a certain point,

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<v Speaker 8>you go over there, if you send your military there,

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<v Speaker 8>or do something to say, hey, that's right, you're not

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<v Speaker 8>going to be you. We're not gonna let you do

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<v Speaker 8>this anymore. That's basically what's happening, right.

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<v Speaker 7>Can you can you imagine if if if Mexico sent

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<v Speaker 7>gunmen across the border and killed seventy thousand Americans year,

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<v Speaker 7>because that's about what dies from finanol, we would be

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<v Speaker 7>in a major war, right, you know, we just absolutely

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<v Speaker 7>would be the case.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let them roll on.

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<v Speaker 7>So the other thing that's crazy about this is so

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<v Speaker 7>these cartels and you see this.

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<v Speaker 2>Graphic that's pretty pretty interesting there.

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<v Speaker 7>But the cartels are going to start to destabilize the

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<v Speaker 7>country of Mexico. Like do you know do you this

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<v Speaker 7>name Pablo Escobar?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, So like the Colombian cartels in the seventies were

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<v Speaker 7>as powerful as like the Colombian government, right, it was

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<v Speaker 7>a narco state. You don't want that to happen, like

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<v Speaker 7>right at the American southern border, where the drug cartels

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<v Speaker 7>have more power than the Mexican government, that's just going

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<v Speaker 7>to be chaotic. It's going to be basically a warlike

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<v Speaker 7>atmosphere on our southern border.

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<v Speaker 2>That's bad news.

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<v Speaker 6>JD is really gifted in adjusting his delivery to different audiences.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I actually would like to hear that podcast because

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<v Speaker 5>they both grew up the same way. Theovon his whole

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<v Speaker 5>act is that he grew up so poor in the South,

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<v Speaker 5>and like one of his things is like, there was

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<v Speaker 5>no racism where I lived because we were all broke.

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<v Speaker 3>None of us had any money whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 5>So there wasn't any judging anybody by the race or

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<v Speaker 5>blaming anybody else because we none of us had any money. Also,

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<v Speaker 5>Theovon's bit about meeting Brad Pitt, you should google that

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<v Speaker 5>chat YouTube video sometimes very hilarious, but I'd like to

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<v Speaker 5>hear them talking about their poor backgrounds and growing up

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<v Speaker 5>and see where they landed politically on that. I'm still

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<v Speaker 5>somewhat confused by jd. Vance since he's been a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of different kinds of people as an adult.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, and he's savvy enough to know that until

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<v Speaker 6>you're the head guy, you go with the game plan.

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<v Speaker 6>You can accuse him of being you know, flip flopper

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<v Speaker 6>or whatever, or inconsistent, but that's politics.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think jd Vance is a big future of

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<v Speaker 5>the Republican Party. I think it's entirely possible. Since he

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<v Speaker 5>just turned forty, I think yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not.

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<v Speaker 6>Intending to be like Hedgy or whatever. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 6>really hard to say. It's like, you know, a top

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<v Speaker 6>NFL prospect. Do you think they will be an important

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<v Speaker 6>part of the Patriots for the next decade.

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<v Speaker 2>It's entirely possible.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and you never know who's coming along. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>nobody saw Barack Obama coming. You know, a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>years before he's the president of the United States.

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<v Speaker 6>You'd have bet your house Hillary was a nominee and

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<v Speaker 6>be the president, right. Jason Riley of The Wall Street

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<v Speaker 6>Journal brilliant black man talking about why are Democrats losing

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<v Speaker 6>black voters as usual? It's a very reasonable and down

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<v Speaker 6>to earth A couple of thoughts. Maybe we can hit

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<v Speaker 6>that later on the hour.

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<v Speaker 5>Can America handle this next couple of weeks and then

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<v Speaker 5>what it looks like afterwards, regardless of who wins? And

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<v Speaker 5>I think I don't think this is just my bias.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's true. I think Kamala Harris wins, and

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<v Speaker 5>many many people are disappointed, but things are fine, and

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<v Speaker 5>we you know, wait till next time. With some flare

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<v Speaker 5>ups and some ugliness, Trump wins. I would guess what

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<v Speaker 5>do you mean by flare ups and ugliness?

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<v Speaker 6>Kind of isolated angry people, this crazy claim that maybe

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<v Speaker 6>a little damage here and there, but isolated in short term.

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<v Speaker 5>Trump wins, There's going to be chaos in the streets,

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<v Speaker 5>bordered a border, maybe.

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<v Speaker 6>For weeks like the five s storm, right for months

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<v Speaker 6>at a time.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry to interrupts because that's good comparison, and so I

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<v Speaker 5>really think that's the situation we're in forward to it

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<v Speaker 5>since it looks like Trump's gonna win, at least if

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<v Speaker 5>the election were held today. Uh, you could come in

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<v Speaker 5>any time you want. Four one, five, two nine five

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<v Speaker 5>KFTC are strong.

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<v Speaker 3>You see this.

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<v Speaker 7>Ahead of the new NBA season, Busts and Celtics head

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<v Speaker 7>coach Joe Mozilla was asked whether his team feels pressure

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<v Speaker 7>as the defending champions.

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<v Speaker 2>Had very interesting answer, what's this.

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<v Speaker 3>What kind of pressure do you have? Do you feel

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of maximize this opportunity.

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<v Speaker 7>That you have with this both zero long, no pressure.

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<v Speaker 5>Be dead soon. It really doesn't matter anymore. So there's

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<v Speaker 5>zero pressure. That's the spirit.

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<v Speaker 3>So Okay, he didn't have a joke to that, He

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<v Speaker 3>just played it.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, that is an interesting way to I mean, it's true,

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<v Speaker 5>and it is a way sometimes to calm him down

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<v Speaker 5>in a pressure situation. But uh, yeah, but that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>We're all gonna be dead soon. It doesn't really matter, so.

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<v Speaker 6>Now let's not get all freaked out about this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>how funny. Hey follow up on one of the big

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<v Speaker 6>stories of the day, which is the well, the whole

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<v Speaker 6>Trump like Hitler, according to various people, just ridiculousness, mostly

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<v Speaker 6>Mark Halpern also saying that he's been pitched a story

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<v Speaker 6>that would quote unquote end Trump's campaign. Well, he wants

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<v Speaker 6>to clarify after that went viral. He said the comment

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<v Speaker 6>was made to warn people of actors who are trying

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<v Speaker 6>to influence the election. He added he isn't pursuing the

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<v Speaker 6>story because he doesn't think it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote.

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<v Speaker 6>The point I was making his actors who want a

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<v Speaker 6>certain outcome are on social media and in pitches to reporters,

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<v Speaker 6>and in the case of Atlantic Jeffrey Goldberg, are trying

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<v Speaker 6>to affect the end of the race because they're so

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<v Speaker 6>desperate to try to pull a comy. I'm not pursuing

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<v Speaker 6>the story. I don't think it's true. All I'm saying

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<v Speaker 6>is there are people out there pitching stuff making that claim.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think most people care if it's true or not.

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<v Speaker 5>They would love to have the story out there. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>even need to be true. We're in a weird place obviously.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, and a combination of things, including the whole.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a TV show we all watch.

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<v Speaker 5>It's our only shared TV show is the presidential election,

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<v Speaker 5>and there's just like different episodes with different character development

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<v Speaker 5>stuff like that. I'm not sure stuff being true matters

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<v Speaker 5>to people. The way him getting shot came and went

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<v Speaker 5>as like just an interesting episode of the TV show

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<v Speaker 5>is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, week in which the House Task Force released a

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<v Speaker 6>report towards the end of Monday, I think criticizing the

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<v Speaker 6>Secret Service for a quote, lack of planning and coordination,

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<v Speaker 6>which is an underplayed headline. They absolutely laid waste to

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<v Speaker 6>the Secret Service's reputation. This is the preliminary edition of

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<v Speaker 6>the report. It's absolutely devastating release Monday criticized the Secret

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<v Speaker 6>Service for a lack of planning and coordination with local

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<v Speaker 6>officials during the tragic and preventable July thirteenth assassination attempt

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<v Speaker 6>on Donald Jay, in which he was grazed on the

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<v Speaker 6>ear and a fabulous man was killed in front of

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<v Speaker 6>his family. Let's not forget the other victims. The information

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<v Speaker 6>I'm quoting from the fifty one page report. The information

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<v Speaker 6>obtained during the first phase of the Task forces investigation

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<v Speaker 6>clearly shows a lack of planning and coordination between the

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<v Speaker 6>Secret Service and its law enforcement partners before the rally,

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<v Speaker 6>the Secret servis did not give any guidance that is

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<v Speaker 6>a quote, did not give any guidance to local authorities

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<v Speaker 6>about quote the placement, role and responsibilities of their snipers.

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<v Speaker 6>According to the task force, which conducted twenty three interviews,

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<v Speaker 6>state and local law enforcement reviewed thousands of pages documents.

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<v Speaker 2>Et cetera.

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<v Speaker 6>While three local officials spotted gunman Thomas Crooks at around

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<v Speaker 6>five PM, noting his suspicious behavior and manner, that information

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<v Speaker 6>did not reach the Secret Service until forty or fifty

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<v Speaker 6>minutes later. Officials attributed the lapse in communication to the

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<v Speaker 6>absence of a central command system with the agency. They

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<v Speaker 6>had no way to interact centrally. The Secret Service also

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<v Speaker 6>did not send agents to two security briefings held by

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<v Speaker 6>local authorities on the morning of the rally or include

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<v Speaker 6>local officials in its own meetings.

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<v Speaker 2>They just held totally separate meetings. I'm not going to EARS. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to ears.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that is so sloppy.

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<v Speaker 6>One Pennsylvania State Police officer bizarrely quote was invited to

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<v Speaker 6>the ten am social Secret Service.

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<v Speaker 2>They just used letters here and it's confusing me.

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<v Speaker 6>Pennsylvania State cop said, I was invited to the ten

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<v Speaker 6>am Secret Service briefing by one agent, then subsequently asked

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<v Speaker 6>to leave by another.

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<v Speaker 2>They told them, hey, you're not supposed to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>They kicked him out.

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<v Speaker 6>The House report echoed a Senate interim report polished last month,

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<v Speaker 6>which also found that a series of stunning operational and

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<v Speaker 6>communications failures by the Secret Service directly contributed to crooks

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<v Speaker 6>being able to take multiple shots at Trump. Senator Gary

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<v Speaker 6>Peters quote, every single one of those failures was preventable,

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<v Speaker 6>and the consequences of those failures were dire.

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<v Speaker 5>God, if he hadn't turned his head, can you imagine

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<v Speaker 5>this report if Trump had been killed?

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, the chaos, the ugliness that the state of the

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<v Speaker 6>United States would be, well, it's unimaginable.

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<v Speaker 2>Large. I'm glad we don't have to take it in a.

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<v Speaker 5>Large chunk of the country that would absolutely believe that

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<v Speaker 5>the government was in on taking out Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>As we discussed at the time, the alternate is to

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<v Speaker 6>believe a level of incompetence by the Secret Service that

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<v Speaker 6>runs counter to and that's an understatement everything we've ever

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<v Speaker 6>been led to believe about the Secret Service. And so

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<v Speaker 6>if you're being asked to swallow that enormous pill of

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<v Speaker 6>what do you mean they didn't even talk to the

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<v Speaker 6>local cops or talk about how they could reach each other.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't believe you. Well, yeah, if you believe that

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<v Speaker 6>the left and the secret service in the government assassinated

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<v Speaker 6>Donald J. Trump, the ugliness that would have been unleashed

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<v Speaker 6>as well, I'd rather not consider it.

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<v Speaker 5>So the story of the day, if your mainstream media

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<v Speaker 5>or left or I repeat myself, I guess, is that

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<v Speaker 5>Trump said nice things about Hitler and he's a want

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<v Speaker 5>to be dick fascist according to people who worked with him.

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<v Speaker 5>So there are a couple more wrinkles on that story.

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<v Speaker 5>Just since we've gone on the air, we'll bring you

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<v Speaker 5>up to speed on among other things coming up.

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<v Speaker 7>Armstrong and Geeddy.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just talking to our boss and Alway and

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<v Speaker 5>his daughter is about to vote in her first presidential

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<v Speaker 5>election of her life, and I was just explained to

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<v Speaker 5>him I have trouble explaining to my kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Things didn't used to be like this.

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<v Speaker 5>This is not the way it's always been. So this

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<v Speaker 5>is as crazy to me as it might seem to you.

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<v Speaker 5>My first presidential election was Reagan Mondale eighty four. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>could you have a less dramatic a forty nine state drubbing.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, could you have a less dramatic situation than

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<v Speaker 5>that for a presidential election compared to this? So she's

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<v Speaker 5>gonna think this is what all presidential elections are like.

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<v Speaker 5>One candidate gets shot, the other one drops out and

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<v Speaker 5>is replaced, and.

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<v Speaker 2>One's Hitler, the other is a communist, etc. That's right.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, elections have consequences, Jack, including on your tax rates.

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<v Speaker 6>The twenty twenty five tax brackets are out and they

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<v Speaker 6>will shock you. Actually how it works and how it

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<v Speaker 6>breaks down. It's pretty interesting. We'll get to that this

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<v Speaker 6>half hour.

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<v Speaker 5>So one of the stories of the day, it's an

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<v Speaker 5>attempt at October surprise from Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic

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<v Speaker 5>dropping this interview and article today.

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<v Speaker 3>In which he has.

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<v Speaker 5>And you can listen to the tapes former Trump chief

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<v Speaker 5>of staff John Kelly, four star general, saying mostly things

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<v Speaker 5>he's said before so.

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<v Speaker 3>About Trump praising.

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<v Speaker 5>Hitler and whatnot, and how he's absolutely a fascist and

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<v Speaker 5>authoritarian and wants to rule like a dictator and that.

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<v Speaker 3>Sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Boy, if you haven't had your change mind changed by that,

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<v Speaker 5>perhaps Joy Behar of The View will.

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<v Speaker 9>Make an impact I don't even know what to say anymore.

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<v Speaker 9>If people still follow this fascist pig, then I don't

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<v Speaker 9>know what else to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't.

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<v Speaker 9>It's like, how many times do we have to hear

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<v Speaker 9>hear say that referring to immigrants as animals? And Hitler

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<v Speaker 9>calls cleansing Germany of all those parasites referring to immigrants,

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<v Speaker 9>and he called Jews lice, and.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's Joey Behar running down a list of some

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<v Speaker 5>of the negative qualities of made off Hitler in case

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<v Speaker 5>you didn't know them.

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<v Speaker 6>Eyeing them sort of things that Trump said that were

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<v Speaker 6>somewhat similar anyway, So well, I'm sure Hitler at some

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<v Speaker 6>point said boy, it's a nice day today. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>make me some sort of Hitler figure for saying I

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<v Speaker 6>love the weather.

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<v Speaker 3>My final solution would include getting rid of the view.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you that. Oh gi uh.

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<v Speaker 5>What was I going to say? I shocked myself out

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<v Speaker 5>of my own train of thought. Oh, the kind of

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<v Speaker 5>mainstream Ish media. And I realize the view leans one

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<v Speaker 5>way politically pretty hard, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you really think you do any good?

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<v Speaker 5>All you do is take people who are Yeah, I mean, god,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if I can pull the lever for Trump. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>now I can. That's all you do with that sort

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<v Speaker 5>of stuff. I think, Yeah, maybe I'm wrong. Anderson Cooper

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<v Speaker 5>on CNN said this is the death knell to any

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<v Speaker 5>candidacy about the shocking view of some of Trump's own

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<v Speaker 5>generals calling him be a would be dictator.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll see, Anderson, Calm down there, my lad. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not so.

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<v Speaker 3>We will see.

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<v Speaker 5>Kamala is doing a town hall on CNN tonight in

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<v Speaker 5>which she will, in theory, be taking unrehearsed, unprepared questions

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<v Speaker 5>from people in the crowd. That lends an opportunity for

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<v Speaker 5>some real word salary, and we might have that for

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<v Speaker 5>you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Saladary well placed here.

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<v Speaker 6>So the new tax brackets are out, it will take

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<v Speaker 6>more income to reach it's higher tax bracket after the

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<v Speaker 6>roughly two point eight percent inflation adjustment, which is, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>somewhat interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's we've always.

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<v Speaker 6>Excuse me, your allergies bothering. You might have been kind

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<v Speaker 6>of bad lately.

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<v Speaker 3>I just saw something might have too. I just saw

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<v Speaker 3>something galarious.

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<v Speaker 5>Speaking of Marc Calprin, they're playing a clip up on

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe that's on the view Actually so, when Mark Alpern

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<v Speaker 5>was on Tucker Carlson the other night, he was talking

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<v Speaker 5>about how he's repeated this a lot. He thinks if

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<v Speaker 5>Trump wins, half the country is going to have a

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<v Speaker 5>mental crisis. But I had never heard him expound on it.

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<v Speaker 5>And he said, and I was just reading it on

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<v Speaker 5>the thing up there. He said, they're gonna be out.

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<v Speaker 5>There's gonna be alcoholism, broken marriages, parents fighting at kid's

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<v Speaker 5>birthday parties.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, that's a funny way to put it.

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<v Speaker 6>But each of those examples, Yeah, he's right.

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<v Speaker 5>That sort of stuff happened through COVID. I could believe

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<v Speaker 5>it happening through Trump winning.

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<v Speaker 6>Riots in the street, marches of various people wearing ill

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<v Speaker 6>advised hats. I mean, you name it, you name it, man.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd like to keep talking about that, but I promised this.

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<v Speaker 6>We've long railed against the idea of unadjusted for cost

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<v Speaker 6>of living tax rates. If you are making, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>two hundred thousand dollars in San Francisco, you're getting your

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<v Speaker 6>bills paid, but you're struggling. If you're making two hundred

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<v Speaker 6>thousand dollars in hogs Wall up to Tennessee, you're the

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<v Speaker 6>richest guy in town. Yeah, exactly. So, although you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I'd actually like to talk to economists and experts about

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<v Speaker 6>if that could be done or if that would cause other,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, imbalances in the economy. That's an interesting topic

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<v Speaker 6>for another day. But so here's how your taxes actually work.

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<v Speaker 6>Do we want to do single or married filing jointly?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sure we have a lot of folks in either

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<v Speaker 6>camp listening to the show. Yeah, we don't. I do

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<v Speaker 6>single just because it's light least simpler. Well, now I'll

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<v Speaker 6>do both.

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<v Speaker 5>So well is Kleatus and hogs Wallop? Is he marries

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<v Speaker 5>probably married or common law common law marriage? Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>They've got three kids. They've been sharing the same roof, Frank.

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<v Speaker 6>So, your first twelve thousand dollars or so is a

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<v Speaker 6>single tax filer, you get taxed at ten percent. Then

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<v Speaker 6>the next what is that thirty six thousand dollars that

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<v Speaker 6>you make, gets taxed at twelve percent. The next fifty

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<v Speaker 6>five thousand dollars you make gets taxed at twenty two percent,

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<v Speaker 6>The next.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta do the math.

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<v Speaker 6>Every time ninety four thousand dollars you make gets taxed

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<v Speaker 6>at twenty four percent, and on up the ladder. The

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<v Speaker 6>highest tax income tax bracket federal tax at this point

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<v Speaker 6>is thirty seven percent.

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<v Speaker 3>And nobody including me ever sits down and figures that

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<v Speaker 3>out for themselves.

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<v Speaker 6>But right, yeah, it's not that every dime is taxed

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<v Speaker 6>at thirty seven percent, although honestly, as a single filer,

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<v Speaker 6>you got to be making six hundred and twenty six grand.

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<v Speaker 5>But every extra dime is which to me, oh discourages,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, wanting to make more money at a certain point.

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<v Speaker 6>Right And honestly, you know you can look at that

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<v Speaker 6>and say, well, you got to have be making six

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<v Speaker 6>hundred and twenty six grand a year, which is some

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<v Speaker 6>sweet coin man to be taxed at thirty seven percent.

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<v Speaker 6>But remember everything from one hundred and ninety seven k

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<v Speaker 6>up is at least thirty two percent, So a third

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<v Speaker 6>of your income or more is going to the federal government,

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<v Speaker 6>never mind your states. It's it's somewhat higher for married

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<v Speaker 6>filing jointly, although not as much higher as you might think.

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<v Speaker 6>In some cases, you have to be making three quarters

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<v Speaker 6>of a million essentially to be hit with the highest

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<v Speaker 6>tax rate, although everything from three hundred and ninety four

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<v Speaker 6>on up has been taxed a third or more of

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<v Speaker 6>your income. The threshold for the top federal income tax

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<v Speaker 6>bracket we'll climb by about twenty thousand dollars next year

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<v Speaker 6>for a married couple because of inflation. The standard deduction

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<v Speaker 6>rises to fifteen thousand dollars for individuals in twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 6>up from fourteen to six this year.

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<v Speaker 5>All I know is the rich don't pay their fair share,

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<v Speaker 5>as I've heard over No.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that was idiotic.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, yes, correct, Yeah, one percent of taxpayers pay forty

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<v Speaker 6>eight percent of income tax. Say that again, one percent

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<v Speaker 6>of taxpayers pay forty eight percent.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the latest figure. I've heard so many different.

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<v Speaker 3>So one percent pay half.

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<v Speaker 5>And my question, which I never hear ask is because

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<v Speaker 5>I'll bet Kamala Harris uses that phrase tonight. I'd be

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<v Speaker 5>shocked if she doesn't in her ninety minute town hall

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<v Speaker 5>and CNN not at some point say I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>make the rich pay their fair share. And I wish

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<v Speaker 5>somebody would say, hey, one percent pay half. What would

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<v Speaker 5>what's the fair amount for for one percent to pay?

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<v Speaker 3>If half is low, what would.

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<v Speaker 5>Be the correct amount of all taxes in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>One percent of people are paying half. What should it be?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh yeah, let's see, I've got to get off my screen.

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<v Speaker 5>And how do you structure society around that? When then

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<v Speaker 5>you have a whole bunch of people who don't care

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<v Speaker 5>how much money is wasted because they don't pay taxes

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<v Speaker 5>or very much taxes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the biggest problem to me.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's see this goes back to twenty twenty one, because

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<v Speaker 6>it takes a while to compile these figures, but I

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<v Speaker 6>was slightly off. The top one percent pay forty six percent.

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<v Speaker 5>Probably federal income probably were't off much because it has

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<v Speaker 5>grown since then.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 6>The top five percent pay two thirds again of the

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<v Speaker 6>income taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>Income tax is paid.

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<v Speaker 5>I got to believe that most people would consider the

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<v Speaker 5>top five percent rich, So five percents paying two thirds

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<v Speaker 5>of all the taxes. If that's not fair, Please tell

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<v Speaker 5>me what number you think would be fair? Should it

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<v Speaker 5>be all of it? I mean, what would be fair

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<v Speaker 5>to you? If that's wildly not fair for five percent

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<v Speaker 5>of people to be paying two thirds.

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<v Speaker 6>Orth mentioning that they are making forty two percent of

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<v Speaker 6>the adjusted gross income, so in my world, they would

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<v Speaker 6>be paying forty two percent of the federal taxes. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 6>if you want to have a carve out for the

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<v Speaker 6>very poor, I'm fine with that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been part of our system more or less forever.

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<v Speaker 5>But right, but you have way if you got half

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<v Speaker 5>the country he doesn't pay taxes, he got way too

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<v Speaker 5>many people to have no reason to care about spending.

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<v Speaker 5>No wonder, you can't get anywhere with an argument about

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<v Speaker 5>debt and spending.

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<v Speaker 3>Half the country pays no taxes, why would they care?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, more specifically, the bottom fifty percent of households pays

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<v Speaker 6>just over two percent of federal income tax so a

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<v Speaker 6>negligible amount. They are making ten percent of adjusted income

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<v Speaker 6>for what it's worth, but paying two percent of the taxes.

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<v Speaker 6>So no, they don't get a damn government spending at all.

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<v Speaker 6>That is half of taxpayers, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Half. That's not accidental.

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<v Speaker 6>We've seen a play out over the years in California

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<v Speaker 6>where it's been done more effectively and insidiously than the

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<v Speaker 6>Feds could even dream of, where the tax base is

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<v Speaker 6>so narrow. In California, the vast majority of income taxpayers,

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<v Speaker 6>I should say, now everybody's getting soaked for gas tax

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 6>gas taxes and sales taxes and that sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 6>and you think they'd be more intent on reforming California government,

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<v Speaker 6>but they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>For whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 6>The inability of people to connect elections to policy to

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<v Speaker 6>results is I mean, I just have to accept that

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<v Speaker 6>as being reality, but it is astonishing to me. I

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<v Speaker 6>guess people are too busy with the other aspects of

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<v Speaker 6>their life. If I'm going to be charitable but not understanding, Yes,

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<v Speaker 6>we have elections, then these people they pass policies. And

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<v Speaker 6>that's why the world is what it is. As you

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<v Speaker 6>look around you, what part of that do you not get?

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Crime?

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<v Speaker 6>Junkies, drugs, the high taxes, all of it. Anyway, It's

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<v Speaker 6>an old song and nobody wants to hear it anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>All I know is I'm glad we got to hear

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<v Speaker 3>from joy behar.

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<v Speaker 2>So is she an obnoxious bee? Ugh?

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<v Speaker 5>Got a couple of baseball things to mention to you

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<v Speaker 5>as the World Series approaches, among other things, on the

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<v Speaker 5>way we will finish strongs to hear.

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<v Speaker 7>Armstrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey.

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<v Speaker 10>YETI there are the great characters produced in sports, and

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<v Speaker 10>this season's great character is a young fellow named Fernando Vealanzuela,

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<v Speaker 10>who has produced a kind of baseball fever known as

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<v Speaker 10>Fernando Mania.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a fairy tale.

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<v Speaker 2>Soul, preposterous.

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<v Speaker 3>DoD your fans, They're not open their eye. El Nino

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<v Speaker 3>is Fernando Vealezuela. Perhaps such early season hysteria can only

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<v Speaker 3>be born in Hollywood. What else can be said but

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<v Speaker 3>Beava Vennezuela.

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<v Speaker 4>Alanzuela, Clevers, Pravo got in playing r a way to start,

0:29:55.840 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 4>Fernando Velanzuela and is Bert Pigley start shut out, topped

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<v Speaker 4>in the air, foul and Fernando has his pip cut out. Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>One baseball.

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<v Speaker 5>Fernando Valenswea died yesterday at the age of sixty three.

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<v Speaker 5>The one thing about baseball is such a completely different

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 5>game now, even than it was then. You don't get

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<v Speaker 5>a chance to pitch five complete game shutouts. There's no

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<v Speaker 5>way they leave you out there for the seventh inning,

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<v Speaker 5>not a.

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<v Speaker 3>Chance, not a chance.

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, the bigger you start you are, the less

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<v Speaker 5>likely it is you're gonna get to stay out there.

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<v Speaker 5>Probably passed like I don't know, depending on the pitches,

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<v Speaker 5>like five six innings, Yeah, which I don't like, but

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<v Speaker 5>I guess I understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>And speaking of.

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<v Speaker 6>Sports in Los Angeles. We didn't mention that history was

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<v Speaker 6>made Lebron's and Bronni James playing on the same court

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<v Speaker 6>together last night, I think, right. I remember remember our

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 6>old producer Sean used to say, that's Lebron's biggest goal

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<v Speaker 6>years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, was to get to play with this some someday.

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<v Speaker 5>And I thought, because some like eight at the time,

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<v Speaker 5>I thought, yeah, it seems unlikely.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of things would have to happen. Well, they

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<v Speaker 3>have happened.

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<v Speaker 5>He got drafted into the league, place for the same

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<v Speaker 5>team as his dad, and they played together last night

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<v Speaker 5>because his dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Told the team to do that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes's exactly it was, quoting Jason Gay in the Journal.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a brief cameo for Browny a little less

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<v Speaker 6>than three minutes of the game. The only near father

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 6>son highlight happened when driving, Lebron flipped his son a

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 6>perfect pass for a three point shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Which he sadly bricked. A well in the Sure to

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<v Speaker 2>Come movie, it will be a swish.

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<v Speaker 3>Um, can you imagine how cool that would be? Though?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, it's unbelievable. Step one have a child at age nineteen.

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<v Speaker 5>True, and then be such a freak that you're still

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<v Speaker 5>playing you know when you're forty at a high level.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw one of Lebron's dunks last night. It was

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<v Speaker 5>funny because he did it while his son was on

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<v Speaker 5>the court. He had his wind mill dunk that no, no, well,

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<v Speaker 5>no twenty year old should be able to do, certainly

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 5>no forty year old. But this giant wind mill dunk

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<v Speaker 5>that made the crowd go wild, and his son was

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<v Speaker 5>standing there like, holy craps.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody hurt?

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<v Speaker 3>That was wild?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh Unspeaking of sports, La sports, The World Series starts

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 5>on Friday. Man, if you're in the stands for a big,

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 5>historic moment, it pays off. When shoe Hey Otani hit

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<v Speaker 5>his fiftieth home run ball into the stands, whoever caught it,

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 5>the Dodgers wanted to buy it from him. Do you

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<v Speaker 5>remember what the amount was? It wasn't big enough. It

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<v Speaker 5>was sad.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like one hundred grand or something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>The guy held on to the ball and just sold

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<v Speaker 5>it for four point three nine million dollars, most expensive

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<v Speaker 5>baseball ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Fire thoughts, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>With your host Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's your host for final thoughts, Joel Getty.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew

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<v Speaker 6>to wrap up today, there is our technical director Michaelangelo

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<v Speaker 6>leading us off.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael final thought.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, highly recommended the ESPN thirty on thirty documentary on

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<v Speaker 7>Fernando Valenzuela.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great.

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<v Speaker 2>I just saw it about a month ago. Ironically cool,

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<v Speaker 2>very good. Katie Green are esteemed to us.

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<v Speaker 6>Woman. As a final thought, Katie, when I hear about

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<v Speaker 6>somebody's baseball selling for four point three million, it's just like,

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 6>that's fu money, and I wish I had that.

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:28.479
<v Speaker 5>If you're, like, you know, a billionaire, you wouldn't care

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 5>if it was two million, four million, or eight million.

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<v Speaker 3>It wouldn't make any difference at all in your life.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, it's couch change. Jack final thought.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm still contemplating what could be that story that

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 5>Mark Alpern claims, if it were true, would end Trump's campaign.

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 3>He says he doesn't think it's true. I' I'm sure

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 3>it's not.

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 5>But I can't even speculate for fictional purposes what story

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 5>would end Trump's campaign given his history.

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 6>I'm telling you, slaves in Trump Tower, I think we

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 6>will know. We won't have to speculate because somebody will

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<v Speaker 6>publish it.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're right.

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<v Speaker 6>My final thought, I've been one to talking about that,

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 6>haven't gotten to it. The Israelis, in the wake of

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<v Speaker 6>the pager slash, walkie talkie attacks and the rest of it,

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.919
<v Speaker 6>have just disclosed to the levities public where to find

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 6>hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and gold.

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<v Speaker 2>That has bla hid.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, now that's.

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>An open secret and let the mayhem begin.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, a smart pr move. I think this is how

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<v Speaker 5>much they were stealing from you all these years.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that's great.

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<v Speaker 5>Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour work.

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<v Speaker 6>There, go to armstrong Giddy dot com. The hot dogs

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:39.320
<v Speaker 6>are dogs. Shirts are selling like hotcakes or hot dogs

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 6>if you will. Hotlinks are great. Drop his note mail

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<v Speaker 6>bag at Armstrong and Giddy dot com.

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<v Speaker 5>Who knows what the news cycle will include tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 3>We will be here. God bless America.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm Strong and Getty stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so interesting and so vicious and horrible, and it's

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 1>so beautiful it's almost good.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying. Can I understand the word

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:04.760
<v Speaker 3>you're saying?

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<v Speaker 2>So let's go with a bang.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know whether to stand on my head and

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 6>poof wood nickels or or move into the woods and

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 6>live like a bear.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what to do. That first trick would

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:15.879
<v Speaker 5>be cool. I'd paid to see then that igh note.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks you all very much, Armstrong and Getty