Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 3: Arm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 1: We were in a race with some very sick people.
Speaker 1: They're liars, they just lie, They lie about everything. And
Speaker 1: I was going to hit her really hard on the
Speaker 1: trail today, but now I don't have to because she's off.
Speaker 1: She's off.
Speaker 3: No, I can't get off for it.
Speaker 2: Who the hell takes off?
Speaker 1: You have fourteen days left, and she'll take a couple
Speaker 1: of more days off too.
Speaker 4: You know why.
Speaker 1: She's lazy as hell, and she's got that reputation.
Speaker 5: It is curious, according to a lot of democratic strategies
Speaker 5: on the left, why she doesn't have a more packed schedule.
Speaker 3: I don't actually know.
Speaker 5: I mean, she's got some really smart people running her campaign.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they have decided that.
Speaker 5: In the modern world, that whole traveling around hitting rallies
Speaker 5: doesn't do you any good.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know what their theory is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it could be, if I'm going to be fair,
Speaker 6: it could be they have some research, some theory of
Speaker 6: the case that that it doesn't do any good, although
Speaker 6: I would need to have that explain to me because
Speaker 6: they still do a fair amount of it.
Speaker 2: It's just a much lighter schedule.
Speaker 6: She is kind of famously not into doing the work
Speaker 6: unless she has to.
Speaker 3: Unless that work. I'm not going to say that.
Speaker 6: Oh oh oh, I'll bet I know where you were going.
Speaker 6: You were gonna mention Willie Brown, weredn't you You're gonna mention,
Speaker 6: you know, getting ahead the hard way. Weren't you a
Speaker 6: rare pullback for me? Sexist pig even thinking it is
Speaker 6: sin enough for me?
Speaker 2: Oh Katie, you want some of that? It's like, wait
Speaker 2: a minute, we're going over going.
Speaker 3: I can help you go there anytime.
Speaker 6: We're hitting Kamalan being a hell hard working gal.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I heard I heard a great joke that
Speaker 5: Kamala got mixed up that she worked at McDonald's.
Speaker 3: She actually worked at five Guys and in and out.
Speaker 5: O no o, No, that's just that's over the line appropriate.
Speaker 3: I wish it hadn't been on our show.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and uh if perhaps at the you know,
Speaker 6: the places where the powerful gathered in Sacramento. She was
Speaker 6: well known to many of the clientele because she's a
Speaker 6: stunning conversationalist and not not anything like Katie was inting at.
Speaker 2: Anyway, where were we?
Speaker 6: Ah, So as Kamala inexplicably takes the day off, which
Speaker 6: is utterly unprecedent, jd Vance is working the interview circuit
Speaker 6: and doing interviews and the rest of it. Uh. He
Speaker 6: was talking to THEO Vaughn, whose name I didn't recognize
Speaker 6: at all. He's a media personality. I guess he got
Speaker 6: a start on the real world on MTV. Nothing it
Speaker 6: matters he did.
Speaker 5: He he's been a stand up comedian in his whole life,
Speaker 5: and he's like hugely successful stand up comedian. I mean,
Speaker 5: like at the top tier, like you know with here
Speaker 5: John Mulaney and right and Louis c k. I mean
Speaker 5: he's in that category. Yeah, And you know, it's funny.
Speaker 5: I was just reading I think it was the Wall
Speaker 5: Street Journal. I was talking about this gallery whose name
Speaker 5: I don't recall. But she got her start on one
Speaker 5: of those MTV Teenaged and Pregnant shows or something like that,
Speaker 5: I don't know. And now she's a social media influencer
Speaker 5: and publishing influencer with millions of followers, and she does
Speaker 5: book reviews and like a book club and stuff like that,
Speaker 5: and she's now super influential. So you know, where people
Speaker 5: get to their start to me is way overstated. You know,
Speaker 5: they had a nose for the media or whatever, and
Speaker 5: they started here and now they're there. The money in
Speaker 5: podcasting is interesting. I mean, we're in podcasting. But I
Speaker 5: saw Louis c k on Theobonn's podcast a couple of
Speaker 5: years ago and he said, I.
Speaker 3: Can't believe you're doing this as much as you are.
Speaker 5: I mean, is the money that much better than being
Speaker 5: one of the biggest comedians in America?
Speaker 3: And he didn't really answer that question, but it must be.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and you just you don't have to travel
Speaker 6: constantly tru which is nice. One of the reasons I
Speaker 6: got into radio, honestly was I thought, Wow, I can
Speaker 6: do that sort of thing and not have to hit
Speaker 6: the road all the time. Anyway, so Jade Vance is
Speaker 6: hitting the road. He was talking to seovon the other
Speaker 6: day and that thought. As usual, he made a fabulous,
Speaker 6: articulate case for you know, the right side of the aisle.
Speaker 7: We's start with seventy Michael and see how it goes.
Speaker 7: The other thing that people don't realize about the cartels.
Speaker 7: Man is is one we're talking about some very dark
Speaker 7: and dangerous people. Like this is not some guy who's
Speaker 7: like dealing, you know, selling joints on a college campus.
Speaker 7: These are like they're doing sex trafficking. They're they're they're
Speaker 7: they're they're getting eleven ten year old girls involved in
Speaker 7: the sex trade. Yeah, they're like very evil people, dictator
Speaker 7: type of which is absolutely vile. And it's it's like,
Speaker 7: why why are we making it easier for these this
Speaker 7: like massive criminal organizations to get richer and richer and richer,
Speaker 7: Like we should be trying to make him poor.
Speaker 6: That is I hear to make the point with kind
Speaker 6: of different verbiage in a more formal setting, But he
Speaker 6: was talking about how if we enabled them to profit
Speaker 6: mightily from the coyote business, the you know, the human trafficking,
Speaker 6: sex trafficking, all those terms we've talked about this many
Speaker 6: times have not made it more clear what's happening. They
Speaker 6: make it less clear, Like you know, a pat on
Speaker 6: the butt and forcible rape for both sexual assault, that
Speaker 6: doesn't illuminate that the clouds using that term anyway. But
Speaker 6: when we enrich them and give them more power, they
Speaker 6: further disrupt Mexico, they import more fentanyl, they slaughter more politicians,
Speaker 6: and get more and more power in Mexico. It could
Speaker 6: be argued that we ought to do whatever opposes the cartels,
Speaker 6: even if it would.
Speaker 2: Do us good to go along with them. The fact
Speaker 2: that it's it's not.
Speaker 6: It's doing us damage to quote unquote go along with
Speaker 6: them by opening up the.
Speaker 2: Borders and it empowers them. It's just obscene.
Speaker 6: Don't get me started on propping up social security and
Speaker 6: the rest of it another day, perhaps rolling on.
Speaker 8: Well, it's also it's obviously one of the biggest enemies,
Speaker 8: that's right. It's like if there were an enemy that
Speaker 8: were killing if somebody, if there were somebody shooting in
Speaker 8: your country every day and killing people, at a certain point,
Speaker 8: you go over there, if you send your military there,
Speaker 8: or do something to say, hey, that's right, you're not
Speaker 8: going to be you. We're not gonna let you do
Speaker 8: this anymore. That's basically what's happening, right.
Speaker 7: Can you can you imagine if if if Mexico sent
Speaker 7: gunmen across the border and killed seventy thousand Americans year,
Speaker 7: because that's about what dies from finanol, we would be
Speaker 7: in a major war, right, you know, we just absolutely
Speaker 7: would be the case.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let them roll on.
Speaker 7: So the other thing that's crazy about this is so
Speaker 7: these cartels and you see this.
Speaker 2: Graphic that's pretty pretty interesting there.
Speaker 7: But the cartels are going to start to destabilize the
Speaker 7: country of Mexico. Like do you know do you this
Speaker 7: name Pablo Escobar?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Okay, So like the Colombian cartels in the seventies were
Speaker 7: as powerful as like the Colombian government, right, it was
Speaker 7: a narco state. You don't want that to happen, like
Speaker 7: right at the American southern border, where the drug cartels
Speaker 7: have more power than the Mexican government, that's just going
Speaker 7: to be chaotic. It's going to be basically a warlike
Speaker 7: atmosphere on our southern border.
Speaker 2: That's bad news.
Speaker 6: JD is really gifted in adjusting his delivery to different audiences.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually would like to hear that podcast because
Speaker 5: they both grew up the same way. Theovon his whole
Speaker 5: act is that he grew up so poor in the South,
Speaker 5: and like one of his things is like, there was
Speaker 5: no racism where I lived because we were all broke.
Speaker 3: None of us had any money whatsoever.
Speaker 5: So there wasn't any judging anybody by the race or
Speaker 5: blaming anybody else because we none of us had any money. Also,
Speaker 5: Theovon's bit about meeting Brad Pitt, you should google that
Speaker 5: chat YouTube video sometimes very hilarious, but I'd like to
Speaker 5: hear them talking about their poor backgrounds and growing up
Speaker 5: and see where they landed politically on that. I'm still
Speaker 5: somewhat confused by jd. Vance since he's been a couple
Speaker 5: of different kinds of people as an adult.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, and he's savvy enough to know that until
Speaker 6: you're the head guy, you go with the game plan.
Speaker 6: You can accuse him of being you know, flip flopper
Speaker 6: or whatever, or inconsistent, but that's politics.
Speaker 5: Do you think jd Vance is a big future of
Speaker 5: the Republican Party. I think it's entirely possible. Since he
Speaker 5: just turned forty, I think yeah.
Speaker 2: And I'm not.
Speaker 6: Intending to be like Hedgy or whatever. It's just it's
Speaker 6: really hard to say. It's like, you know, a top
Speaker 6: NFL prospect. Do you think they will be an important
Speaker 6: part of the Patriots for the next decade.
Speaker 2: It's entirely possible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you never know who's coming along. I mean,
Speaker 5: nobody saw Barack Obama coming. You know, a couple of
Speaker 5: years before he's the president of the United States.
Speaker 6: You'd have bet your house Hillary was a nominee and
Speaker 6: be the president, right. Jason Riley of The Wall Street
Speaker 6: Journal brilliant black man talking about why are Democrats losing
Speaker 6: black voters as usual? It's a very reasonable and down
Speaker 6: to earth A couple of thoughts. Maybe we can hit
Speaker 6: that later on the hour.
Speaker 5: Can America handle this next couple of weeks and then
Speaker 5: what it looks like afterwards, regardless of who wins? And
Speaker 5: I think I don't think this is just my bias.
Speaker 5: I think it's true. I think Kamala Harris wins, and
Speaker 5: many many people are disappointed, but things are fine, and
Speaker 5: we you know, wait till next time. With some flare
Speaker 5: ups and some ugliness, Trump wins. I would guess what
Speaker 5: do you mean by flare ups and ugliness?
Speaker 6: Kind of isolated angry people, this crazy claim that maybe
Speaker 6: a little damage here and there, but isolated in short term.
Speaker 5: Trump wins, There's going to be chaos in the streets,
Speaker 5: bordered a border, maybe.
Speaker 6: For weeks like the five s storm, right for months
Speaker 6: at a time.
Speaker 5: Sorry to interrupts because that's good comparison, and so I
Speaker 5: really think that's the situation we're in forward to it
Speaker 5: since it looks like Trump's gonna win, at least if
Speaker 5: the election were held today. Uh, you could come in
Speaker 5: any time you want. Four one, five, two nine five
Speaker 5: KFTC are strong.
Speaker 3: You see this.
Speaker 7: Ahead of the new NBA season, Busts and Celtics head
Speaker 7: coach Joe Mozilla was asked whether his team feels pressure
Speaker 7: as the defending champions.
Speaker 2: Had very interesting answer, what's this.
Speaker 3: What kind of pressure do you have? Do you feel
Speaker 3: to kind of maximize this opportunity.
Speaker 7: That you have with this both zero long, no pressure.
Speaker 5: Be dead soon. It really doesn't matter anymore. So there's
Speaker 5: zero pressure. That's the spirit.
Speaker 3: So Okay, he didn't have a joke to that, He
Speaker 3: just played it.
Speaker 5: Okay, that is an interesting way to I mean, it's true,
Speaker 5: and it is a way sometimes to calm him down
Speaker 5: in a pressure situation. But uh, yeah, but that's interesting.
Speaker 5: We're all gonna be dead soon. It doesn't really matter, so.
Speaker 6: Now let's not get all freaked out about this. Yeah,
Speaker 6: how funny. Hey follow up on one of the big
Speaker 6: stories of the day, which is the well, the whole
Speaker 6: Trump like Hitler, according to various people, just ridiculousness, mostly
Speaker 6: Mark Halpern also saying that he's been pitched a story
Speaker 6: that would quote unquote end Trump's campaign. Well, he wants
Speaker 6: to clarify after that went viral. He said the comment
Speaker 6: was made to warn people of actors who are trying
Speaker 6: to influence the election. He added he isn't pursuing the
Speaker 6: story because he doesn't think it's true.
Speaker 2: Quote.
Speaker 6: The point I was making his actors who want a
Speaker 6: certain outcome are on social media and in pitches to reporters,
Speaker 6: and in the case of Atlantic Jeffrey Goldberg, are trying
Speaker 6: to affect the end of the race because they're so
Speaker 6: desperate to try to pull a comy. I'm not pursuing
Speaker 6: the story. I don't think it's true. All I'm saying
Speaker 6: is there are people out there pitching stuff making that claim.
Speaker 5: I don't think most people care if it's true or not.
Speaker 5: They would love to have the story out there. Doesn't
Speaker 5: even need to be true. We're in a weird place obviously.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and a combination of things, including the whole.
Speaker 3: It's a TV show we all watch.
Speaker 5: It's our only shared TV show is the presidential election,
Speaker 5: and there's just like different episodes with different character development
Speaker 5: stuff like that. I'm not sure stuff being true matters
Speaker 5: to people. The way him getting shot came and went
Speaker 5: as like just an interesting episode of the TV show
Speaker 5: is amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, week in which the House Task Force released a
Speaker 6: report towards the end of Monday, I think criticizing the
Speaker 6: Secret Service for a quote, lack of planning and coordination,
Speaker 6: which is an underplayed headline. They absolutely laid waste to
Speaker 6: the Secret Service's reputation. This is the preliminary edition of
Speaker 6: the report. It's absolutely devastating release Monday criticized the Secret
Speaker 6: Service for a lack of planning and coordination with local
Speaker 6: officials during the tragic and preventable July thirteenth assassination attempt
Speaker 6: on Donald Jay, in which he was grazed on the
Speaker 6: ear and a fabulous man was killed in front of
Speaker 6: his family. Let's not forget the other victims. The information
Speaker 6: I'm quoting from the fifty one page report. The information
Speaker 6: obtained during the first phase of the Task forces investigation
Speaker 6: clearly shows a lack of planning and coordination between the
Speaker 6: Secret Service and its law enforcement partners before the rally,
Speaker 6: the Secret servis did not give any guidance that is
Speaker 6: a quote, did not give any guidance to local authorities
Speaker 6: about quote the placement, role and responsibilities of their snipers.
Speaker 6: According to the task force, which conducted twenty three interviews,
Speaker 6: state and local law enforcement reviewed thousands of pages documents.
Speaker 2: Et cetera.
Speaker 6: While three local officials spotted gunman Thomas Crooks at around
Speaker 6: five PM, noting his suspicious behavior and manner, that information
Speaker 6: did not reach the Secret Service until forty or fifty
Speaker 6: minutes later. Officials attributed the lapse in communication to the
Speaker 6: absence of a central command system with the agency. They
Speaker 6: had no way to interact centrally. The Secret Service also
Speaker 6: did not send agents to two security briefings held by
Speaker 6: local authorities on the morning of the rally or include
Speaker 6: local officials in its own meetings.
Speaker 2: They just held totally separate meetings. I'm not going to EARS. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to ears.
Speaker 3: Wow, that is so sloppy.
Speaker 6: One Pennsylvania State Police officer bizarrely quote was invited to
Speaker 6: the ten am social Secret Service.
Speaker 2: They just used letters here and it's confusing me.
Speaker 6: Pennsylvania State cop said, I was invited to the ten
Speaker 6: am Secret Service briefing by one agent, then subsequently asked
Speaker 6: to leave by another.
Speaker 2: They told them, hey, you're not supposed to be here.
Speaker 2: They kicked him out.
Speaker 6: The House report echoed a Senate interim report polished last month,
Speaker 6: which also found that a series of stunning operational and
Speaker 6: communications failures by the Secret Service directly contributed to crooks
Speaker 6: being able to take multiple shots at Trump. Senator Gary
Speaker 6: Peters quote, every single one of those failures was preventable,
Speaker 6: and the consequences of those failures were dire.
Speaker 5: God, if he hadn't turned his head, can you imagine
Speaker 5: this report if Trump had been killed?
Speaker 6: Wow, the chaos, the ugliness that the state of the
Speaker 6: United States would be, well, it's unimaginable.
Speaker 2: Large. I'm glad we don't have to take it in a.
Speaker 5: Large chunk of the country that would absolutely believe that
Speaker 5: the government was in on taking out Trump.
Speaker 6: As we discussed at the time, the alternate is to
Speaker 6: believe a level of incompetence by the Secret Service that
Speaker 6: runs counter to and that's an understatement everything we've ever
Speaker 6: been led to believe about the Secret Service. And so
Speaker 6: if you're being asked to swallow that enormous pill of
Speaker 6: what do you mean they didn't even talk to the
Speaker 6: local cops or talk about how they could reach each other.
Speaker 6: I don't believe you. Well, yeah, if you believe that
Speaker 6: the left and the secret service in the government assassinated
Speaker 6: Donald J. Trump, the ugliness that would have been unleashed
Speaker 6: as well, I'd rather not consider it.
Speaker 5: So the story of the day, if your mainstream media
Speaker 5: or left or I repeat myself, I guess, is that
Speaker 5: Trump said nice things about Hitler and he's a want
Speaker 5: to be dick fascist according to people who worked with him.
Speaker 5: So there are a couple more wrinkles on that story.
Speaker 5: Just since we've gone on the air, we'll bring you
Speaker 5: up to speed on among other things coming up.
Speaker 7: Armstrong and Geeddy.
Speaker 5: I was just talking to our boss and Alway and
Speaker 5: his daughter is about to vote in her first presidential
Speaker 5: election of her life, and I was just explained to
Speaker 5: him I have trouble explaining to my kids.
Speaker 3: Things didn't used to be like this.
Speaker 5: This is not the way it's always been. So this
Speaker 5: is as crazy to me as it might seem to you.
Speaker 5: My first presidential election was Reagan Mondale eighty four. I mean,
Speaker 5: could you have a less dramatic a forty nine state drubbing.
Speaker 5: I mean, could you have a less dramatic situation than
Speaker 5: that for a presidential election compared to this? So she's
Speaker 5: gonna think this is what all presidential elections are like.
Speaker 5: One candidate gets shot, the other one drops out and
Speaker 5: is replaced, and.
Speaker 2: One's Hitler, the other is a communist, etc. That's right.
Speaker 6: Well, elections have consequences, Jack, including on your tax rates.
Speaker 6: The twenty twenty five tax brackets are out and they
Speaker 6: will shock you. Actually how it works and how it
Speaker 6: breaks down. It's pretty interesting. We'll get to that this
Speaker 6: half hour.
Speaker 5: So one of the stories of the day, it's an
Speaker 5: attempt at October surprise from Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic
Speaker 5: dropping this interview and article today.
Speaker 3: In which he has.
Speaker 5: And you can listen to the tapes former Trump chief
Speaker 5: of staff John Kelly, four star general, saying mostly things
Speaker 5: he's said before so.
Speaker 3: About Trump praising.
Speaker 5: Hitler and whatnot, and how he's absolutely a fascist and
Speaker 5: authoritarian and wants to rule like a dictator and that.
Speaker 3: Sort of stuff.
Speaker 5: Boy, if you haven't had your change mind changed by that,
Speaker 5: perhaps Joy Behar of The View will.
Speaker 9: Make an impact I don't even know what to say anymore.
Speaker 9: If people still follow this fascist pig, then I don't
Speaker 9: know what else to say.
Speaker 2: I really don't.
Speaker 9: It's like, how many times do we have to hear
Speaker 9: hear say that referring to immigrants as animals? And Hitler
Speaker 9: calls cleansing Germany of all those parasites referring to immigrants,
Speaker 9: and he called Jews lice, and.
Speaker 5: And that's Joey Behar running down a list of some
Speaker 5: of the negative qualities of made off Hitler in case
Speaker 5: you didn't know them.
Speaker 6: Eyeing them sort of things that Trump said that were
Speaker 6: somewhat similar anyway, So well, I'm sure Hitler at some
Speaker 6: point said boy, it's a nice day today. That doesn't
Speaker 6: make me some sort of Hitler figure for saying I
Speaker 6: love the weather.
Speaker 3: My final solution would include getting rid of the view.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that. Oh gi uh.
Speaker 5: What was I going to say? I shocked myself out
Speaker 5: of my own train of thought. Oh, the kind of
Speaker 5: mainstream Ish media. And I realize the view leans one
Speaker 5: way politically pretty hard, but.
Speaker 3: Do you really think you do any good?
Speaker 5: All you do is take people who are Yeah, I mean, god,
Speaker 5: I don't know if I can pull the lever for Trump. Okay,
Speaker 5: now I can. That's all you do with that sort
Speaker 5: of stuff. I think, Yeah, maybe I'm wrong. Anderson Cooper
Speaker 5: on CNN said this is the death knell to any
Speaker 5: candidacy about the shocking view of some of Trump's own
Speaker 5: generals calling him be a would be dictator.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see, Anderson, Calm down there, my lad. No,
Speaker 2: it's not so.
Speaker 3: We will see.
Speaker 5: Kamala is doing a town hall on CNN tonight in
Speaker 5: which she will, in theory, be taking unrehearsed, unprepared questions
Speaker 5: from people in the crowd. That lends an opportunity for
Speaker 5: some real word salary, and we might have that for
Speaker 5: you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Saladary well placed here.
Speaker 6: So the new tax brackets are out, it will take
Speaker 6: more income to reach it's higher tax bracket after the
Speaker 6: roughly two point eight percent inflation adjustment, which is, you know,
Speaker 6: somewhat interesting.
Speaker 2: It's we've always.
Speaker 6: Excuse me, your allergies bothering. You might have been kind
Speaker 6: of bad lately.
Speaker 3: I just saw something might have too. I just saw
Speaker 3: something galarious.
Speaker 5: Speaking of Marc Calprin, they're playing a clip up on
Speaker 5: Maybe that's on the view Actually so, when Mark Alpern
Speaker 5: was on Tucker Carlson the other night, he was talking
Speaker 5: about how he's repeated this a lot. He thinks if
Speaker 5: Trump wins, half the country is going to have a
Speaker 5: mental crisis. But I had never heard him expound on it.
Speaker 5: And he said, and I was just reading it on
Speaker 5: the thing up there. He said, they're gonna be out.
Speaker 5: There's gonna be alcoholism, broken marriages, parents fighting at kid's
Speaker 5: birthday parties.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, that's a funny way to put it.
Speaker 6: But each of those examples, Yeah, he's right.
Speaker 5: That sort of stuff happened through COVID. I could believe
Speaker 5: it happening through Trump winning.
Speaker 6: Riots in the street, marches of various people wearing ill
Speaker 6: advised hats. I mean, you name it, you name it, man.
Speaker 6: I'd like to keep talking about that, but I promised this.
Speaker 6: We've long railed against the idea of unadjusted for cost
Speaker 6: of living tax rates. If you are making, you know,
Speaker 6: two hundred thousand dollars in San Francisco, you're getting your
Speaker 6: bills paid, but you're struggling. If you're making two hundred
Speaker 6: thousand dollars in hogs Wall up to Tennessee, you're the
Speaker 6: richest guy in town. Yeah, exactly. So, although you know,
Speaker 6: I'd actually like to talk to economists and experts about
Speaker 6: if that could be done or if that would cause other,
Speaker 6: you know, imbalances in the economy. That's an interesting topic
Speaker 6: for another day. But so here's how your taxes actually work.
Speaker 6: Do we want to do single or married filing jointly?
Speaker 6: I'm sure we have a lot of folks in either
Speaker 6: camp listening to the show. Yeah, we don't. I do
Speaker 6: single just because it's light least simpler. Well, now I'll
Speaker 6: do both.
Speaker 5: So well is Kleatus and hogs Wallop? Is he marries
Speaker 5: probably married or common law common law marriage? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5: They've got three kids. They've been sharing the same roof, Frank.
Speaker 6: So, your first twelve thousand dollars or so is a
Speaker 6: single tax filer, you get taxed at ten percent. Then
Speaker 6: the next what is that thirty six thousand dollars that
Speaker 6: you make, gets taxed at twelve percent. The next fifty
Speaker 6: five thousand dollars you make gets taxed at twenty two percent,
Speaker 6: The next.
Speaker 2: I gotta do the math.
Speaker 6: Every time ninety four thousand dollars you make gets taxed
Speaker 6: at twenty four percent, and on up the ladder. The
Speaker 6: highest tax income tax bracket federal tax at this point
Speaker 6: is thirty seven percent.
Speaker 3: And nobody including me ever sits down and figures that
Speaker 3: out for themselves.
Speaker 6: But right, yeah, it's not that every dime is taxed
Speaker 6: at thirty seven percent, although honestly, as a single filer,
Speaker 6: you got to be making six hundred and twenty six grand.
Speaker 5: But every extra dime is which to me, oh discourages,
Speaker 5: you know, wanting to make more money at a certain point.
Speaker 6: Right And honestly, you know you can look at that
Speaker 6: and say, well, you got to have be making six
Speaker 6: hundred and twenty six grand a year, which is some
Speaker 6: sweet coin man to be taxed at thirty seven percent.
Speaker 6: But remember everything from one hundred and ninety seven k
Speaker 6: up is at least thirty two percent, So a third
Speaker 6: of your income or more is going to the federal government,
Speaker 6: never mind your states. It's it's somewhat higher for married
Speaker 6: filing jointly, although not as much higher as you might think.
Speaker 6: In some cases, you have to be making three quarters
Speaker 6: of a million essentially to be hit with the highest
Speaker 6: tax rate, although everything from three hundred and ninety four
Speaker 6: on up has been taxed a third or more of
Speaker 6: your income. The threshold for the top federal income tax
Speaker 6: bracket we'll climb by about twenty thousand dollars next year
Speaker 6: for a married couple because of inflation. The standard deduction
Speaker 6: rises to fifteen thousand dollars for individuals in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 6: up from fourteen to six this year.
Speaker 5: All I know is the rich don't pay their fair share,
Speaker 5: as I've heard over No.
Speaker 2: Well, that was idiotic.
Speaker 6: Uh, yes, correct, Yeah, one percent of taxpayers pay forty
Speaker 6: eight percent of income tax. Say that again, one percent
Speaker 6: of taxpayers pay forty eight percent.
Speaker 2: That's the latest figure. I've heard so many different.
Speaker 3: So one percent pay half.
Speaker 5: And my question, which I never hear ask is because
Speaker 5: I'll bet Kamala Harris uses that phrase tonight. I'd be
Speaker 5: shocked if she doesn't in her ninety minute town hall
Speaker 5: and CNN not at some point say I'm going to
Speaker 5: make the rich pay their fair share. And I wish
Speaker 5: somebody would say, hey, one percent pay half. What would
Speaker 5: what's the fair amount for for one percent to pay?
Speaker 3: If half is low, what would.
Speaker 5: Be the correct amount of all taxes in the country.
Speaker 3: One percent of people are paying half. What should it be?
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, let's see, I've got to get off my screen.
Speaker 5: And how do you structure society around that? When then
Speaker 5: you have a whole bunch of people who don't care
Speaker 5: how much money is wasted because they don't pay taxes
Speaker 5: or very much taxes.
Speaker 3: That's the biggest problem to me.
Speaker 6: Let's see this goes back to twenty twenty one, because
Speaker 6: it takes a while to compile these figures, but I
Speaker 6: was slightly off. The top one percent pay forty six percent.
Speaker 5: Probably federal income probably were't off much because it has
Speaker 5: grown since then.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6: The top five percent pay two thirds again of the
Speaker 6: income taxes.
Speaker 2: Income tax is paid.
Speaker 5: I got to believe that most people would consider the
Speaker 5: top five percent rich, So five percents paying two thirds
Speaker 5: of all the taxes. If that's not fair, Please tell
Speaker 5: me what number you think would be fair? Should it
Speaker 5: be all of it? I mean, what would be fair
Speaker 5: to you? If that's wildly not fair for five percent
Speaker 5: of people to be paying two thirds.
Speaker 6: Orth mentioning that they are making forty two percent of
Speaker 6: the adjusted gross income, so in my world, they would
Speaker 6: be paying forty two percent of the federal taxes. Obviously,
Speaker 6: if you want to have a carve out for the
Speaker 6: very poor, I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2: It's been part of our system more or less forever.
Speaker 5: But right, but you have way if you got half
Speaker 5: the country he doesn't pay taxes, he got way too
Speaker 5: many people to have no reason to care about spending.
Speaker 5: No wonder, you can't get anywhere with an argument about
Speaker 5: debt and spending.
Speaker 3: Half the country pays no taxes, why would they care?
Speaker 6: Well, more specifically, the bottom fifty percent of households pays
Speaker 6: just over two percent of federal income tax so a
Speaker 6: negligible amount. They are making ten percent of adjusted income
Speaker 6: for what it's worth, but paying two percent of the taxes.
Speaker 6: So no, they don't get a damn government spending at all.
Speaker 6: That is half of taxpayers, folks.
Speaker 2: Half. That's not accidental.
Speaker 6: We've seen a play out over the years in California
Speaker 6: where it's been done more effectively and insidiously than the
Speaker 6: Feds could even dream of, where the tax base is
Speaker 6: so narrow. In California, the vast majority of income taxpayers,
Speaker 6: I should say, now everybody's getting soaked for gas tax
Speaker 6: gas taxes and sales taxes and that sort of thing,
Speaker 6: and you think they'd be more intent on reforming California government,
Speaker 6: but they're not.
Speaker 2: For whatever reason.
Speaker 6: The inability of people to connect elections to policy to
Speaker 6: results is I mean, I just have to accept that
Speaker 6: as being reality, but it is astonishing to me. I
Speaker 6: guess people are too busy with the other aspects of
Speaker 6: their life. If I'm going to be charitable but not understanding, Yes,
Speaker 6: we have elections, then these people they pass policies. And
Speaker 6: that's why the world is what it is. As you
Speaker 6: look around you, what part of that do you not get?
Speaker 2: Crime?
Speaker 6: Junkies, drugs, the high taxes, all of it. Anyway, It's
Speaker 6: an old song and nobody wants to hear it anymore.
Speaker 3: All I know is I'm glad we got to hear
Speaker 3: from joy behar.
Speaker 2: So is she an obnoxious bee? Ugh?
Speaker 5: Got a couple of baseball things to mention to you
Speaker 5: as the World Series approaches, among other things, on the
Speaker 5: way we will finish strongs to hear.
Speaker 7: Armstrong.
Speaker 1: Hey.
Speaker 10: YETI there are the great characters produced in sports, and
Speaker 10: this season's great character is a young fellow named Fernando Vealanzuela,
Speaker 10: who has produced a kind of baseball fever known as
Speaker 10: Fernando Mania.
Speaker 3: It's a fairy tale.
Speaker 2: Soul, preposterous.
Speaker 3: DoD your fans, They're not open their eye. El Nino
Speaker 3: is Fernando Vealezuela. Perhaps such early season hysteria can only
Speaker 3: be born in Hollywood. What else can be said but
Speaker 3: Beava Vennezuela.
Speaker 4: Alanzuela, Clevers, Pravo got in playing r a way to start,
Speaker 4: Fernando Velanzuela and is Bert Pigley start shut out, topped
Speaker 4: in the air, foul and Fernando has his pip cut out. Unbelievable.
Speaker 3: One baseball.
Speaker 5: Fernando Valenswea died yesterday at the age of sixty three.
Speaker 5: The one thing about baseball is such a completely different
Speaker 5: game now, even than it was then. You don't get
Speaker 5: a chance to pitch five complete game shutouts. There's no
Speaker 5: way they leave you out there for the seventh inning,
Speaker 5: not a.
Speaker 3: Chance, not a chance.
Speaker 5: In fact, the bigger you start you are, the less
Speaker 5: likely it is you're gonna get to stay out there.
Speaker 5: Probably passed like I don't know, depending on the pitches,
Speaker 5: like five six innings, Yeah, which I don't like, but
Speaker 5: I guess I understand it.
Speaker 2: And speaking of.
Speaker 6: Sports in Los Angeles. We didn't mention that history was
Speaker 6: made Lebron's and Bronni James playing on the same court
Speaker 6: together last night, I think, right. I remember remember our
Speaker 6: old producer Sean used to say, that's Lebron's biggest goal
Speaker 6: years ago.
Speaker 5: Yes, was to get to play with this some someday.
Speaker 5: And I thought, because some like eight at the time,
Speaker 5: I thought, yeah, it seems unlikely.
Speaker 3: A lot of things would have to happen. Well, they
Speaker 3: have happened.
Speaker 5: He got drafted into the league, place for the same
Speaker 5: team as his dad, and they played together last night
Speaker 5: because his dad.
Speaker 2: Told the team to do that.
Speaker 6: Yes's exactly it was, quoting Jason Gay in the Journal.
Speaker 6: It was a brief cameo for Browny a little less
Speaker 6: than three minutes of the game. The only near father
Speaker 6: son highlight happened when driving, Lebron flipped his son a
Speaker 6: perfect pass for a three point shot.
Speaker 2: Which he sadly bricked. A well in the Sure to
Speaker 2: Come movie, it will be a swish.
Speaker 3: Um, can you imagine how cool that would be? Though?
Speaker 6: Oh, it's unbelievable. Step one have a child at age nineteen.
Speaker 5: True, and then be such a freak that you're still
Speaker 5: playing you know when you're forty at a high level.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I saw one of Lebron's dunks last night. It was
Speaker 5: funny because he did it while his son was on
Speaker 5: the court. He had his wind mill dunk that no, no, well,
Speaker 5: no twenty year old should be able to do, certainly
Speaker 5: no forty year old. But this giant wind mill dunk
Speaker 5: that made the crowd go wild, and his son was
Speaker 5: standing there like, holy craps.
Speaker 2: Anybody hurt?
Speaker 3: That was wild?
Speaker 5: Oh Unspeaking of sports, La sports, The World Series starts
Speaker 5: on Friday. Man, if you're in the stands for a big,
Speaker 5: historic moment, it pays off. When shoe Hey Otani hit
Speaker 5: his fiftieth home run ball into the stands, whoever caught it,
Speaker 5: the Dodgers wanted to buy it from him. Do you
Speaker 5: remember what the amount was? It wasn't big enough. It
Speaker 5: was sad.
Speaker 3: It was like one hundred grand or something like that.
Speaker 5: The guy held on to the ball and just sold
Speaker 5: it for four point three nine million dollars, most expensive
Speaker 5: baseball ever.
Speaker 3: Fire thoughts, Yes.
Speaker 2: With your host Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 3: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joel Getty.
Speaker 6: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
Speaker 6: to wrap up today, there is our technical director Michaelangelo
Speaker 6: leading us off.
Speaker 2: Michael final thought.
Speaker 7: Yeah, highly recommended the ESPN thirty on thirty documentary on
Speaker 7: Fernando Valenzuela.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 2: I just saw it about a month ago. Ironically cool,
Speaker 2: very good. Katie Green are esteemed to us.
Speaker 6: Woman. As a final thought, Katie, when I hear about
Speaker 6: somebody's baseball selling for four point three million, it's just like,
Speaker 6: that's fu money, and I wish I had that.
Speaker 5: If you're, like, you know, a billionaire, you wouldn't care
Speaker 5: if it was two million, four million, or eight million.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't make any difference at all in your life.
Speaker 2: So no, it's couch change. Jack final thought.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm still contemplating what could be that story that
Speaker 5: Mark Alpern claims, if it were true, would end Trump's campaign.
Speaker 3: He says he doesn't think it's true. I' I'm sure
Speaker 3: it's not.
Speaker 5: But I can't even speculate for fictional purposes what story
Speaker 5: would end Trump's campaign given his history.
Speaker 6: I'm telling you, slaves in Trump Tower, I think we
Speaker 6: will know. We won't have to speculate because somebody will
Speaker 6: publish it.
Speaker 3: So you're right.
Speaker 6: My final thought, I've been one to talking about that,
Speaker 6: haven't gotten to it. The Israelis, in the wake of
Speaker 6: the pager slash, walkie talkie attacks and the rest of it,
Speaker 6: have just disclosed to the levities public where to find
Speaker 6: hundreds of millions of dollars in cash and gold.
Speaker 2: That has bla hid.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, now that's.
Speaker 2: An open secret and let the mayhem begin.
Speaker 5: Well, a smart pr move. I think this is how
Speaker 5: much they were stealing from you all these years.
Speaker 2: Right, that's great.
Speaker 5: Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour work.
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Speaker 5: Who knows what the news cycle will include tomorrow?
Speaker 3: We will be here. God bless America.
Speaker 5: I'm Strong and Getty stop.
Speaker 1: Okay, so interesting and so vicious and horrible, and it's
Speaker 1: so beautiful it's almost good.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Can I understand the word
Speaker 3: you're saying?
Speaker 2: So let's go with a bang.
Speaker 6: I don't know whether to stand on my head and
Speaker 6: poof wood nickels or or move into the woods and
Speaker 6: live like a bear.
Speaker 5: I don't know what to do. That first trick would
Speaker 5: be cool. I'd paid to see then that igh note.
Speaker 3: Thanks you all very much, Armstrong and Getty