1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: People ask us all the time how we can save 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: the next generation. 3 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 2: We've got our show and the info is an antidote. 4 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: But we also have a couple books coming out, Clay. 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: That's right, and you can pre order both of them 6 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: right now and be book nerds just like us. 7 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 2: You'll laugh, you'll nod, and you'll get smarter too. 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Mine's called Balls, How Trump young men in sports saved America. 9 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: And mine is manufacturing delusion How the Left uses brainwashing, 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 2: indoctrination and propaganda against you. 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: Both are great reads. One might even say they would 12 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: make fabulous gifts. 13 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: Indeed, so do us a solid and pre order yours 14 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: on Amazon today. Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Continuing Government Shutdown edition. 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: And I got a lot of news to talking about today, 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: and we're going to be joined by a couple of 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: Senators to discuss some of it. Senator Ran Paul in 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: the second hour, Senator Ron Johnson in the third hour. 20 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: I am here in our nation's capital, so figure should 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: talk to some of the lawmens and legislators and people 22 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: making the decisions. And they have a little more time 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: on their hands because of this shutdown situation. We've also 24 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: got Trump weighing heavily on the National Guard deployment to Chicago. 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: He's got some choice Trump words. James Comy his trial. 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: I've got updates for you on that. I've also got 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 2: a well, some Pambondi hearing stuff that we can discuss 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: a little bit of. I just wanted to start with 29 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: this though. DC is absolutely lovely right now. It is 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: incredible being here now. Some of it might be the 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: increase in safety because of the Trump agenda, but just 32 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: hear me out, the government shutdown means that this city 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: is wide open. There's no one clogging the streets, the 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: roadways are wide open. You can drive anywhere. It is 35 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: a ghost town in all the best ways. So I'm 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: having a great time. I'm walking around the broad boulevards, 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: barely a soul in sight. The restaurants, you can get 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: a table anywhere. I can drive around. DC has among 39 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: the worst traffic congestion areas in the entire country. DC 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: is pretty much always a top five contender and often 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: a top three for the worst traffic. And you have 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of government workers who are currently on furlough, 43 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: not going into these massive federal buildings pushing a bunch 44 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: of paper around. So the city is great. I gotta 45 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: say this shutdown, it's a fantastic time to be in 46 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: this town and having some meetings with various stakeholders and 47 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: movers and shakers here, some of it off the record, 48 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: but it's interesting stuff that's going on, that much, I 49 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: can tell you. Some people are saying very interesting meetings, 50 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: very interesting for mister Buck. But yeah, I have to 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: check in on my people here in DC. Sometimes I'm 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: just saying it's a great time. But why should you 53 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: care that? 54 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: Well? 55 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: What do we need all these government workers for? If 56 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: everything seems fine without them going to their jobs. I 57 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 2: think it's a fair ask. Remember the Pentagon is still 58 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: going public safety. There's essential and non essential services in 59 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: this town, and the non essential includes a lot of 60 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: people who I think are remote remote workers anyway or 61 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: have been. And everything seems to be functioning just fine. 62 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe if you have to wait in 63 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: line longer than normal, or you can't get into the 64 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: certain areas of a national park, you're upset. But for me, 65 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: walking around our nation's capital, it feels like the swamp 66 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: has been cleared. It's great, and I think that it's 67 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: a reminder that we have a massive and bloated federal 68 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: bureaucracy and if there are some changes made to that 69 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: as part of the shutdown, to me, that is a 70 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: good thing. That is a good thing. But yeah, I 71 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: think this is one of the You have perfect weather, 72 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: no bureaucrats, and you can drive anywhere here in this 73 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: town now in less than ten minutes. This is the 74 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: best version of DC I can remember. Right, This is great. 75 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: So I'm having a lot of fun here and I'm 76 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: down here of course in our DC iHeart studio. All right. Now, 77 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: with that said, we've got some updates on a whole 78 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 2: range of things. Oh, this is what I was looking 79 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: for when I started off the show. Katie Porter, we 80 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: will discuss this. She's running for governor. She's a congresswoman. 81 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: She is not a particularly affable one and may have 82 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: done some real damage Durr campaign. You're just gonna have 83 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: to hear this exchange, but I will play that one 84 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: for you. Has gone megaviral. She can be very nasty, 85 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: kind of a nasty exchange with a journalist who's trying 86 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: to ask her some questions. So we will get We 87 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: will get to that as well, Katie Porter situation. But 88 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: as I had to mention to you, we have as 89 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: of this morning update here on the James Comy trial. 90 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: I believe it is going to be happening January fifth. 91 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 2: It is set for so that's pretty quick. They're they're 92 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: moving pretty fast on this one. And here is Fox 93 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: News is Bill Hammer. This is from this morning just 94 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: with that breaking news and laying out some of what's 95 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: going on here for Sanktacomy play it. Here is the 96 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 2: breaking news. 97 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: The former FBI director James Comby in front of a 98 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 4: judge moments ago and a hearing that we did not 99 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: think would last long. 100 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,119 Speaker 2: And apparently that is the case. 101 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: He has entered a plea of not guilty to two 102 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 4: charges federal level. Now are producers inside the courtroom say 103 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 4: the former director accused of lying to Congress obstructing a 104 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 4: congressional proceeding. End of the plea moments ago in front 105 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 4: of the judge Michael Knockmanoff appointed by Joe not guilty 106 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 4: on both federal charges. He's accused of lying in front 107 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 4: of Congress back in twenty twenty. 108 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: So that is the update inside the courtroom. So now 109 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: he's going to trial. One of the most hilarious arguments 110 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 2: against this that I keep seeing all over the place 111 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: from the Libs is, oh my gosh, the precedent that 112 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: has been set here, What would you do, Republicans if 113 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: people started to use prosecutors' offices as weapons of politics? 114 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 2: And to this, you just want to say, have you 115 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: been asleep for the last decade? Do you have any 116 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 2: idea what has gone on with four different criminal cases 117 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: brought against Donald Trump, all of which were bogus civil 118 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: cases brought against Trump by the State of New York 119 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: in one case, and by a woman who claims from 120 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: thirty years ago, thirty something years ago, Trump grabbed her 121 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: in a department store. The stuff that they have done, 122 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: the lawfair they have done against Trump and his family 123 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: alone has done tremendous damage to the public's faith in 124 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: all of these different facets of our criminal justice system, 125 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: or just our justice system of the courts too, because 126 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: some of it was civil. This is atrocious. I mean, 127 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: the things that have gone on here, the precedents that 128 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: have already been set. Now they want to tell us 129 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: we should be worried about going too far in the 130 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: other direction. No, they already did this. In fact, what 131 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: they have done, what the Democrats have done specifically with 132 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: the targeted lawfair against Donald Trump, among many others. It's 133 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: really Trump and Trump world, everybody who is Trump adjacent 134 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: all the way to January sixth, defendants, right, it's the 135 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: whole Trump movement that they have used the prosecutor's office. 136 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: They have used lawfare as a tool as a weapon 137 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: to to ruin lives, to put tremendous pressure on people, 138 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: to financially drain them, to undermine them, to malign them, 139 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: to defame them. All of that they have already done. 140 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: They sent an FBI team tomorrow lago and they went 141 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: through Malania's sock drawer. And libs want to lecture us 142 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: about James Comy, who allegedly lied under oath facing the music. 143 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, is there some special carve out for being 144 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: a six foot ten jerk who uses the law in 145 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: order to puff himself up and is part of his 146 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: own just malignant narcissism. Is there some carve out where 147 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: he doesn't have to actually face the music the way 148 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: that he has made so many others and I think 149 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: entrapped people and abuse the law. Most notably General Flynn. 150 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 2: I like to fill in these gaps too, so no 151 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: one can say, well, you just said he's abusing, and 152 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: no I like to give you the specifics to remind everybody, 153 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: to remind everybody that James Comy thought it was funny 154 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 2: to use the Logan Act, which no serious human being 155 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: thinks anybody can or would be prosecuted under, as a 156 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 2: total pretext. It's like the equivalent of a swatting call. 157 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: It is a bad faith use of law enforcement to 158 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: go after the General Michael Flynn, the incoming National Security advisor. 159 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: I know it feels like that was a long time ago, 160 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: but there hasn't been Well maybe you don't feel that way, 161 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: but they'll say that, but there's been no justice for that. 162 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: That ambush hasn't been punished. And James Comy thinks that 163 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: he's a clever guy for the whole thing, and he 164 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: thinks that what was that book? I think was Higher Power? 165 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 2: Is that right? Higher Power or something like that? I'm 166 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: now the real question you might ask is is James 167 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: Comy's book a more brutal read than Kamala is one 168 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: hundred and seven Days. I cannot answer that question because 169 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: I haven't read Comy's book, but I will tell you 170 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 2: that is some if competition. That is, you know, Superman 171 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: versus Iron Man with the like the super suit. 172 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 5: You know. 173 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: I mean, that is tough stuff, really really preposterous that 174 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: James Comy would think anybody would want to read his 175 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: memoir and on his book tour. But such as things are, 176 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: he is now facing the music and there's the possibility. 177 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: I think it's slim. I don't want to over promise 178 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: and under deliver, ever on this show, I think it 179 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: is slim. But here's what I will tell that he 180 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: will actually be convicted because it's it's a Northern Virginia jury. 181 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: I was just saying, how much fun, how much fun 182 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: DC is with no government bureacrats running around. They all 183 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: live in Arlington mostly, you know, they live a lot 184 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: of them inside or just outside of the Beltway. It's 185 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: going to be a very favorable pool for James Comy. 186 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: But here's why I view this is so important. The 187 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: message is received, whether Comy is found guilty or not, 188 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: the message is received that there will at least be 189 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: an effort to hold the other side to the law 190 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: and not create a system. This is really important a 191 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: system where we are held to an extra legal standard 192 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: and they are held to a sub legal standard, or 193 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: rather they get to break the law and get away 194 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: with it. Meanwhile, they get to prosecute us Trump for 195 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: not breaking the law, and we do nothing in response. 196 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: We have to at least establish that we will bring 197 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: charges against people who have been involved in this law 198 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: fair involved in using the government, the deep state, however 199 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: you want to describe it, to take out people for 200 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: purely political reasons. Well, if they break the law in 201 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 2: that process, there will be some form of accountability. And 202 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: now there is going to be I think a pretty 203 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: high probability just based on the jury pool that calm 204 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: me will be found. In my mind, he'll be found 205 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: not guilty. He'll be acquitted on this. But let's see, 206 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: let's see, it's a pretty straightforward thing. Did he lie 207 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: or did he not lie? Let's see what kind of 208 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 2: case the process. I know, I don't want to I 209 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: don't want to prejudge anything here. Let's see what is 210 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: produced in that court. You don't need to call me 211 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: and say, buck, you're already getting ahead of the cart 212 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: before the horse here, I know, But I just I 213 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: like to manage our expectations for where this is going. 214 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: It's it's still a steep climb. 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I've been warning people 264 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: for years about this Comy guy, and I wish if 265 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: the president at the time had pulled me aside and 266 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: asked me early on in his first term, I would 267 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: have shared all you have to know about James Comy. 268 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: You would know from the way he acted with respect 269 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: to the Martha Stewart prosecution, a prosecution that nobody in 270 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: his office but him wanted to bring a prosecution for 271 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: which there was no crime, not even any money made 272 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: or lost. It was just the whole thing was absurd. 273 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: And Martha Stewart is a huge Democrat who does not 274 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: like Trump and does not like Republicans. And this is 275 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: just about what's what's fair and decent. It's not about politics. 276 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: But Komy really has always thought of himself as like 277 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: the high priest of the DOJ. So much of Komy, 278 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: I will tell you this, so much of Komy reminds 279 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: me of Fauci. Fauci is like the the you know, 280 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: the the Liliputian version of Komy. They have the same 281 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: person soonality type. They pretend it's all about the cause 282 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: of the institution, it's really all about them. And they 283 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: get this uh, this solyopsism word of the day, solepsism 284 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: from all of this, and you like that one. That 285 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: producer rally likes that one. And I'm not the only 286 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: one warning you about this guy, or have been warning 287 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: about this guy for a long time. The great Rush 288 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: Limbaugh back in twenty nineteen, he saw exactly who James 289 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: Comy was and also knew about his past, which we 290 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: should all be reminded. I've played two. 291 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: How many of you have heard or thought that James 292 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: call me was a lifelong Republican. I have I've always 293 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: thought that James call Me was a lifelong Republican. I've 294 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: been told that James call Me as a lifelong Republican. 295 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: Turns out not to be true. Are you wearing of 296 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: James Comey used to be a Communist. In a two 297 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: thousand and three interview with New York Magazine, James call 298 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: Mey said before voting for Jamie Jimmy Carter nineteen eighty, 299 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 3: he'd been a communist. He admitted, I'd moved from communists 300 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: to whatever I am. Now now we know that John Brennan, 301 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 3: Obama's CIA director, was a Communist, or at least had 302 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 3: voted for the Communist Party, But I had never heard 303 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: this about Komy. Now we find out that under Obama, 304 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 3: the CIA director and the FBI director both had histories 305 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 3: of not just flirtation, but serious immersion into communism. And 306 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: like the KGB always said, no one ever leaves the KGB, 307 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 3: nobody ever leaves this way of thinking. 308 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 2: Isn't that interesting? You start to see how for some 309 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: of these individuals there was an ideological foundation of communism. 310 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: And these are people who are at the top of 311 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: the national security operat us in this country in recent years. 312 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: Communism and then they become some malleable chameleon in politics, 313 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 2: just so they can weave their way through the bureaucracy. 314 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 2: But do you think they've ever really changed their collectivist foundation. 315 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: Rush didn't think that Komi had, or Brendan for that matter, 316 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 2: and he was right. He warned us about this, and 317 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: now perhaps there will be some accountability for the misdeeds 318 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: that were done. But we're not going to hold our 319 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: breath on Komy. We're going to see. Look, as you know, 320 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 2: I've always been a big reader. I love books, that's 321 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: certainly true. I also like writing a lot, and when 322 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: I'm not on radio, I've been busy creating a weekly 323 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: e newsletter, something of real value if you care about 324 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: the markets and the big stories out there. We called 325 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 2: it Money and Power for reasons that'll become very obvious 326 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: when you subscribe. 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Hey, Buck, I just wanted to repeat the 345 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: Democrat talking point that nobody is above the law even 346 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 2: if you're six foot ten. I like it, well done. 347 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: Comy is very tall. He might even be Jesse Kelly. 348 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: I hit my head on the ceilings of every building 349 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: in America. Tall I think. I mean Comy and Jesse 350 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: Kelly are in that same you know, Oh, I can't 351 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: see in an airplane seats because my knees are you know, 352 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: up around my years or whatever. It's like, okay, buddy, 353 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: you know, very tall, almost seven footers. I don't think either, 354 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 2: of them played basketball either, so they've got that in common. 355 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: There you go, separated at birth. I don't know Jesse, 356 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: so yes, Komy is a very tall fellow and he 357 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: should not be above the law. This, of course, is 358 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 2: upsetting all of the Democrats out there. This is upsetting 359 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: the Democrats who are trying to now convince I don't 360 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: think that they believe they're gonna convince us with this, 361 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 2: but it's a talking point that they put out there 362 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 2: for the consumption of their own side, their own audience. 363 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: Or they will say things like, but what about the president? 364 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: You're setting here and here is Politico's White House correspondence. 365 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: This has cut twenty six. Listen to this argument. 366 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 8: This opens up bit of a Pandora's box, right, not 367 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 8: just for this administration, but for future administrations that may 368 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 8: want to follow suit, Republican or Democrat. This is unprecedented 369 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 8: and it creates some precedent for this kind of action 370 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 8: from a president and a Justice Department that follows that 371 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 8: kind of direction. 372 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, was she asleep for the last four years? 373 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: You really have to wonder does she not understand what 374 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: has been happening in this country? We had a presidential 375 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 2: candidate and former president under indictment in four different cases, 376 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: the first time it had ever happened, and then they 377 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: did it four times. So they're going to try to 378 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: tell us about the president that it sets now, Oh 379 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: my gosh, James, call me. This is madness. And never 380 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 2: mind the fact that you had senior Trump advisors who 381 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: went to prison Okay Navarro and been in are older gentlemen, 382 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: and they had to pick which bunk bed they were 383 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: sleeping in for like six months. They went to prison 384 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: because they stood on their principles and refused to bend 385 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 2: the knee to the Democrat law. Fair they actually serve 386 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 2: time over that, and there are others in the Trump 387 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 2: orbit who have as well. But we're supposed to weep. 388 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: We're supposed to be upset about the precedent that is 389 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: set by James Comy. Maybe, and it's a big maybe, 390 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: maybe facing some form of justice here. Just understand this 391 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: Comy's perfectly happy sending other people to prison many times 392 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 2: over for lying to the FBI, lying to Congress, lying, 393 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. He had no problem with that. 394 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: James Comy didn't shed a tear for all the people 395 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: over all the years that he was in the FBI, 396 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 2: or that he was a federal prosecutor, in which case 397 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: he was really making the decisions right. FBI investigates, but 398 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: the FBI will refer they work very hand in glove 399 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: with US attorneys with ausas, and so if if the 400 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 2: FBI hands a case over, they're like, well, we think 401 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 2: this guy's you know, go get him. US attorney's usually 402 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: gonna say yeah, okay, and they do. But Kome's been 403 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: on both sides of that coin. Remember, Comy has never 404 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: had a badge and a gun and tackled a bad 405 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: guy to the ground in his life. That's an important 406 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 2: aspect of this as well. It's like, oh, the FBI director, 407 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: he's a lawman, he's a you know, he's a g man. 408 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: He's a guy that no, he's he's a lawyer and 409 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: a scummy one. So that's something that I think you 410 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 2: have to keep in mind here as well, that Komy 411 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: was perfectly willing to send. That's why the Martha Stewart 412 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: example I think is so powerful. I know it's a 413 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: long time ago, almost like twenty years now, but it 414 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: still goes to show you he doesn't shed a tear 415 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: for other people when they are separated from their family, humiliated, 416 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 2: reputation ruined for the most for the most minor transgression 417 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: under the most strict reading of federal statute. So why 418 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: should why should uh this not be a case of 419 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: what's good for the goose is good for the gander. 420 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 2: That's the phrase, right, yes, just making sure. So the 421 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: only reason I know what to get, Like, did you 422 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: know what a gander was? Other than that, I never 423 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: you know, have you ever been with somebody with they point, 424 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: They're like, look at the gander. You know what I mean? 425 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never had that one. So at 426 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 2: least I know the I got the phrase right, which 427 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 2: is which is important. So yes, Komy is facing all 428 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: this and now okay, let's do some Let's do some 429 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: talk about this situation in uh oh oh, sorry, I 430 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: was pulling this up situation in Chicago, but I wanted 431 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: to note something because I keep telling you with respect 432 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: to Taipei, Taiwan, please go listen to the interview I did. 433 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: It's up at clanbuck dot com with the President Taiwan. 434 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: I got picked up by Bloomberg. It's been picked up 435 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: by a lot of news organizations around the world. Now 436 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 2: he says some really important stuff. He says at President Trump, 437 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: is that is the deciding factor here to create peace 438 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: or to sustain peace in that area. And if you does, 439 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: and he thinks he will, he should get the Nobel 440 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: Peace Prize just for that. So a lot of a 441 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: lot of reason. I think to listen to that if 442 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 2: you can. But there's also what I the case that 443 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 2: I've been making to you is, look at how safe 444 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: it is. This this this is going to translate to 445 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: our Chicago and Portland discussion here in just a second. 446 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: But I said, look at how safe it is in Taipei, Taiwan. 447 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: Look at what it's like there, And the same thing 448 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 2: is true in Tokyo. There are a number of cities. 449 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: Norway has incredibly low crime rate and very nice fjords, 450 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 2: but very low crime rate. And or is that Sweden? 451 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: I might have just actually I might have just swedened Norway. 452 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 2: Do they they both have fjords, right? Do they both 453 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: call them fjords? Whatever? So this is why I got 454 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: a crack research team here. They're going to correct me 455 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 2: on my fjords, Ganders and fjords. We're learning, we're learning 456 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: all kinds of new things people say to me in 457 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: response to this, I got a lot of First of all, 458 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 2: some folks you're saying, is it's just nice to observe that. 459 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: It's nice to know that that is possible. But what 460 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: a lot of even conservatives were saying to me online 461 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: when I shared that experience in Taiwan, it's just there's 462 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: just no crime. Worrying about being brutally carjacked or something 463 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: in Taiwan is like worrying about a shark attack in 464 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: two feet of water. It can happen, but I don't 465 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 2: think you're really gonna worry about it. You know it's 466 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 2: not impossible, but you don't, whereas there are other places 467 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: where you know, you're jumping in the water, they're chumming 468 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: the water, and there's already some big fins, you know, 469 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: like you've got problems. 470 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: Right. 471 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: It's very different mentality, very different situation. But people kept 472 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: saying to me, oh, but it's so different there, and 473 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: specifically the cases of Taiwan Japan. I would add Norway 474 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 2: to that list because they say those are cohesive, high 475 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: trust cultures. Now that is true, true, but there's something 476 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: out There's there's another layer, there's another part of this 477 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: argument that I want conservatives, I want the right, I 478 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 2: want the Trump team, some of whom are listening right now. 479 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: Hey guys, I want them to know this and have 480 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: this one ready to deploy, because this is important. People 481 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: will somewhat dismiss the low crime miracle, if you will, 482 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: of a Taiwana, tokyoa Norway, Switzerland kind of has a 483 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: similarish a level of crime. They'll dismiss it because I'll say, well, 484 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,479 Speaker 2: that's their small country. Well, Japan's not a small country, 485 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: but in Taiwan's got twenty three million people, it's not 486 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: that small. But the cultural cohesiveness that that everyone is. 487 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: It's places that are not that are not you know, 488 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: multi lingual and diverse places that there is a high 489 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: level of societal trust. Okay, well what about Al Salvador. 490 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: This is really I keep telling everybody there's a reason 491 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: the media doesn't want to talk about Al Salvador, and 492 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 2: they want I want to do everything possible in this 493 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: country to undermine Boukeley, who is responsible for a miraculous turnaround. 494 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: Rudy Giuliani himself would give Bukeale a high five because 495 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: remember Rudy had the New York miracle, with crime. He 496 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: would give Bukali a high five for what he has 497 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: done in Al Salvador. In twenty fifteen, ten years ago, 498 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: El Salvador was at a one hundred and three homicides 499 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: per one hundred thousand residents. That is, if not at 500 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: that time the highest in the world, it was top three, 501 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: and it might have been the highest Honduras, El Salvador, 502 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: these countries were going back and forth, but let's just 503 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: say it was basically the highest murder rate in the 504 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: world for a country not at war, right, you don't 505 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: count war deaths the same way, but for homicides, Al 506 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: Salvador was the single most dangerous place. It's certainly, you know, 507 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: top three in the world, and very different. I don't think. 508 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody needs an explanation, very different culturally 509 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: and otherwise from Japan and Norway, and it's a Latin 510 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: American country. Al Salvador in this year had one one 511 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: murder per hundred thousand residents, a hundred times reduction in 512 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: the murder rate in ten years. So I don't want 513 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: to hear this fatalism from people that, oh, that's only possible. 514 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: You can only make streets safe, you can only make 515 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: people feel like their wives and daughters can jog alone 516 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: at night without a care in the world other than traffic. 517 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: You can only do that in places like Japan and 518 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: Taiwan and Norway and Switzerland and Monaco, you know, places 519 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: like that. It's not true. And what should be happening 520 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: right now is the rest of Latin America. I mean, 521 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: the crime rate in some of these Latin American countries 522 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: is still astonishing. Parts of Mexico are very safe, but 523 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: parts of Mexico are among the most dangerous places in 524 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: the world. Now, it's a big country, so that brings 525 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: the overall number down a bit. But uh, Kolima, Mexico, 526 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: which is in the central south, I would guess you'd 527 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: say on a map it controls. It's a city nearby 528 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: to one of the main Pacific ports where all the 529 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: fentanyl precursors are coming in. That is the city that, 530 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: certainly last year had the highest murder rate in the world. 531 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: It was the most it's just a cartel war going 532 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: on there, highest murder rate in the world. And the 533 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: truth is any Latin American country, and really any country 534 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: can do what El Salvador has done, and what Buqueli 535 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: deserves a standing ovation for which he is getting from 536 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: his people. By the way, despite how much the Washington 537 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 2: Post hates him, and despite how much CNN tries to 538 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: undermine him, because it's possible here too, you get the 539 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: crime you tolerate. Society makes a choice. It does not 540 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: have to be this way. And for everybody who is 541 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: dismissing a little bit of what I saw in Taiwan, 542 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: I say, okay, El Salvador is pretty much as safe 543 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: as Taiwan, now pretty close. You want to explain that 544 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: one to me. If they can do it, why can't Chicago. 545 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: If they can do it, why can't other places in 546 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: this country with high crime rates. The Portland situation is 547 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 2: a little different. That's more about anarchy, disorder and stopping ice. 548 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: It's a slightly different law enforcement issue there. They don't 549 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 2: have a super high murder rate, which is a good thing. 550 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: But in countries where they do, there really is no 551 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: argument that it has to be this way. There's just 552 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: people who don't want to face reality and people who 553 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: are ignorant of what is possible. And enough is enough. 554 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: And I think this is why Donald Trump is absolutely 555 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: on the right track with it. And like I said, 556 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: just even hear the statistic one hundred and three murders 557 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: per one hundred thousand ten years ago in El Salvador 558 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: one per one hundred thousand murders last year. 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I don't know 598 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 2: why people in California can't see to a better candidate 599 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: than this, but she is very likely, it is believed 600 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 2: to be the next governor of California, which again I'm 601 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 2: I'm a reality based conservative always. California is an amazing state, 602 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 2: a beautiful state. I'm a big fan of it as 603 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: a place, and there are lots of great people there. 604 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: But man, that government is not good. State government is 605 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: not good. Let's take well, actually, let's get to this 606 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: talk back here. Bb Josh from Oklahoma hit. 607 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 7: It hey Buck Josh from Oklahoma loved the show, but 608 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 7: I gotta say bad form on the analogy. If you're 609 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 7: gonna do analogies, stick to tennis, because, if anything, it 610 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 7: should be Superman versus the Hulk. 611 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: Why why can't it be Superman versus Iron Man. Isn't 612 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 2: that DC and Marvel? Isn't that a crossover? I don't 613 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 2: understand why Superman versus the Hulk. There was a movie 614 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: that was Superman versus Batman. It was not a good movie. 615 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: But do you know, Producer Mark is my he can 616 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 2: text me, he's my Marvel Universe and DC Comics experts. 617 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: So Producer Mark, you're the judge on this one. Can 618 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: you can you make a call? Here was my was 619 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: my iron Man Superman analogy? 620 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 5: Really? 621 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: That off? I thought? I thought I was sitting at 622 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: the cool kids table with that one. Apparently apparently not 623 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: Eric in Wisconsin. What have you got for me? 624 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 5: It's shoel great to be on again too. Hey. I 625 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 5: think what's going on in the big cities across the 626 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 5: country is that we are seeing the Stockholm syndrome going on. 627 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 5: You know, why are people voting a certain way when 628 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 5: it's against their certain interests? And this is what Trump is, 629 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 5: I think, is addressing. He's sending these agents into these 630 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 5: big cities and it is the most visible way to 631 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 5: start chipping it away, chipping away of what's going on 632 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 5: relative to the Stockholm syndrome. And when you really take 633 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 5: a look at the anger of the Democrat leaders, who 634 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 5: is cities are being you know, not invaded, but who 635 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 5: are you know, where they're coming into. They are so 636 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 5: upset because they know Trump is going to address this. 637 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 5: And when you take a look at Maslov's hierarchy of needs, 638 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 5: the government's already taking care of the physiological part, the food, 639 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 5: the shelter, and so forth. What's the next step up? 640 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 5: It's safety. And if people are going to see safety 641 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 5: done immediately, people are going to start changing their minds 642 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 5: in the big cities. And this is why the Democrats 643 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 5: are so so I think. 644 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 2: You've stumbled onto the real answer here, my friend. Thank 645 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 2: you for calling in. If Trump is successful, what then 646 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: they can't allow him to be successful because people being 647 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 2: a lot safer, they appreciate that there's there's a real 648 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 2: shift that can happen. Producer Mark are our comics expert, 649 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: is waged in. I think Superman versus Hulk would make 650 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 2: more sense. They both have superpowers. Iron Man is a 651 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: rich guy with a cool suit that just gives him power. 652 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 2: I mean, but it is like a really cool suit. 653 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 2: He flies, he's got lasers. I think we're under I mean, okay, 654 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: Mark has weight in. I'll take his I'll take his 655 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 2: judgment on this one. But I wasn't I wasn't that 656 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 2: far off. Katie Porter is uh coming up next this 657 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 2: viral exchange she had. She wants to be the next 658 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 2: governor of California, following in new Scum's footsteps. We'll talk 659 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 2: about it.